Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 374： Outline For Taking Down The CCP

00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:16.560 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:24.320 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in

00:00:29.780 Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:35.180 is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:38.940 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:46.060 stephen k bannon it's friday uh 15 september the year of our lord 2023 i want to start uh we've got

00:00:54.060 frank is going to co-host somebody gaffney the whole week we've been going through uh losing our

00:00:58.980 sovereignty uh to the chinese communist party and what it means for us on a practical basis

00:01:03.520 for the impeachment the budget all of it get there in a second i want to start with boris epstein boris

00:01:08.800 updates major polling coming out of south carolina across the board uh president trump uh under siege

00:01:16.220 this phony thing on the 14th amendment the lawfare down in georgia keeps going on uh give me your

00:01:21.420 assessment of where we stand right now steve honor be with you honor be with the posse where we stand

00:01:26.840 is full spectrum dominance president trump yesterday in a fox news poll a poll that let's be honest has

00:01:32.820 not been friendly shown to be up 47 president trump at 60 the florida governor is at 17 17 in the same

00:01:44.080 poll back in february president trump was up by 15 15 in august he was up by 37 now president donald j

00:01:51.180 trump up by 47 in this poll and if you look all across the country in the national polls the state

00:01:58.760 polls he's absolutely annihilating this race and i will tell you why look at the strength that president

00:02:04.260 trump continues to show during this powerhouse interview yesterday with crystal walker you're

00:02:09.840 already seeing the first clips uh out there him hitting all the key points and showing the absolute

00:02:16.600 command of all the vital issues from the economy to national security to this uh to the disaster

00:02:22.780 that caused by biden with uaw united auto workers of course to china to uh to energy etc could you even

00:02:30.620 think and even even megan kelly tweeted out but joe biden the last in any of these interviews for even

00:02:38.160 30 seconds the answer is absolutely not could any of the pretenders of the keep their elves do these

00:02:44.160 kind of powerhouse interviews absolutely not president trump is the leader that this country

00:02:48.860 wants back as soon as possible and he's showing it day in and day and i'll tell you this i had the

00:02:52.960 honor of being at an event with the president yesterday in pennsylvania the level of engagement

00:02:58.220 from the room the level of of enthusiasm and president trump's command of the vital fronts

00:03:04.440 is unlike anything i've seen before and i'm honored i've been honored as you have to be you know in this

00:03:10.220 world now for a long time and right now president trump's dominance his command of this race of

00:03:16.540 american political political spectrum is unlike anything we've seen before

00:03:21.280 by the way tonight he's both at the family tony perkins and the family research council

00:03:26.940 then he's a concerned a women for america giving two major addresses tonight of course fox won't cover

00:03:31.940 a second of it uh but don't bury the lead uh boris because kristen welker and starting her you know

00:03:38.680 decades plus run and meet the press the revered sunday show of nbc news they could get him the get

00:03:45.240 they want to have is donald trump that speaks to where we are it's not the press it's not that phony

00:03:50.460 president united states it's not anybody else in the world they want to have get they want and they

00:03:55.080 want to use that as a landmark that they started her tenure with president trump give me some comments

00:04:00.640 on that steve and this the story that nbc participated with mediate the headline and the first the first

00:04:08.120 paragraph ran kristen welker and starting her run on the meet the press franchise wants the most

00:04:14.220 noteworthy the most newsworthy person in the world and that's president donald j trump that's all you

00:04:20.120 have to know that's nbc that's media that is where our zeitgeist is nobody wants to hear from crooked

00:04:26.220 joe biden nobody wants to hear from the keebler elves whether it be the florida governor trying to

00:04:30.560 pretend to be president trump by throwing out footballs on fox news or any of these or any of these other

00:04:36.320 you know second second tier pretenders nobody wants to hear from them everybody wants to know

00:04:41.780 what does president donald j trump have to say and how is he going to lead our country back to greatness

00:04:47.460 which is exactly what he's going to do on energy on the economy on national security on pushing back

00:04:53.560 against our adversaries and let's be honest our allies to make sure that we do get our sovereignty

00:04:58.900 back and only president trump can do it uh boris i'll have you back next week we'll talk about all

00:05:05.380 the negotiations going on about the budget but i gotta and we're hearing from well-placed sources

00:05:10.860 that at least stefanik's going to step in she did such a great job in the first impeachment so she's

00:05:15.640 now going to step in and have some sort of overall role in this impeachment process of the bribery and

00:05:22.380 the treason of uh of uh of biden and the biden cram family your your thoughts about stefanik taking

00:05:28.360 anymore because let's be honest comer's a good man jim jordan's a very good man but it's just not it's with

00:05:34.440 the evidence being so overwhelming it's not being messaged right and even then 61 percent of the

00:05:39.700 american people on the cnn poll you know believe that biden was in business with his son and took money

00:05:46.060 from his son who took money from foreign dictators uh what's your thoughts about stefanik stepping up

00:05:51.900 here and taking a more senior role given the great job she did in the first impeachment

00:05:55.480 there's no doubt that she was stefanik gilpy chairwoman at least stefanik i mean let's be

00:06:01.320 honest she made her bones in a lot of ways on that first impeachment she stepped up she fought hard

00:06:05.900 and and she battled against that hoax that absolute nonsense on uh regarding the perfect phone call

00:06:12.860 president donald jay trump on the ukraine by the way everything president trump said on ukraine

00:06:16.840 turned out to be totally right and let's remember the premise of that phone call was in defeating

00:06:22.280 corruption in ukraine so chairman stefanik did a great job there and i think that's a perfect fit

00:06:28.160 for her to take a strong powerful position on this impeachment let's get through the inquiry as quickly

00:06:34.500 as humanly possible and let's get to impeachment you better believe the democrats wouldn't be taking

00:06:38.560 too long we cannot take long either let's get this done and why is that necessary necessary because

00:06:44.320 we are showing the republicans are finally showing the american people that it is high time for the

00:06:51.960 biden crime family to be held to account and not to be able to go and continue to make money and

00:06:57.800 grip of the american people uh boris real quickly your um uh happy new year first off and uh and give us

00:07:06.420 all your social media coordinates steve it's an honor to be with you shanatovato all those celebrating

00:07:12.260 happy new year and to everybody listening wish you all happiness and health and of course most

00:07:17.820 vitally for us strength see my information hot on the website boris cp.com hot on boris cp hot on

00:07:23.840 getter at boris twitter at boris cp hot on social at boris and the hottest on the graph boris underscore

00:07:30.440 epstein stay strong god bless and shabbat shalom thanks for taking time today on new year's um eve for

00:07:39.160 you guys um really appreciate it of course appreciate the uh insights appreciate the insights

00:07:43.880 um frank gaffney frank i i've been overwhelmed by the audience response this week and it's kind of

00:07:50.820 providential because it tied so much into what was happening and kind of the tactics and the

00:07:55.300 in the everyday up the this fight that you see in the house and all the things that happen on a daily

00:08:01.520 basis but being able at six o'clock in the evening to pull the camera back and actually

00:08:05.980 give the deeper uh currents on that that are underpinning this has been tremendous and and

00:08:13.240 we wrap up the week this week with just uh more uh killer panelists and and what you've done of

00:08:19.720 bringing these tremendous experts uh into the war room i can't thank you enough and i can't thank you

00:08:24.840 enough for the week uh so let's go with our topic and and and who do we have three big hitters today

00:08:30.440 frank we do i want to thank you steve for your vision for this uh special programming uh all week

00:08:37.000 long um we've touched on five critical issues that our committee on the present danger china which you

00:08:44.660 helped us get off the ground and have been an important part of um has been addressing principally

00:08:50.500 through um a series of now over 110 webinars uh all of which are available for free at present

00:08:57.980 danger china.org we started with what we call the global governance gambit an effort that will be

00:09:04.900 taking on new momentum on the 20th that is wednesday of next week at the united nations and the disaster

00:09:13.740 that that portends for our sovereignty personal as well as national by the way uh we then went to elite

00:09:19.920 capture the phenomenon of everybody from joe biden to larry fink and members of congress and others

00:09:25.440 who have been recruited and obtained as controlled assets by the chinese communist party that term

00:09:33.900 applied explicitly by one of our guests uh sam faddis a man who knows his way around this business

00:09:40.640 of intelligence and collection uh and capture of elites we then turned to the question of whose side

00:09:47.880 is joe biden on as a result of all that turns out he's not playing for our team it's not news exactly

00:09:55.160 but we've got the receipts it has to be part of the impeachment process uh we then talked about

00:10:01.700 yesterday the takedown of the united states military you correctly characterized it i think as the last

00:10:07.620 institution standing these marxists are bringing down the instrument of our national security and cq brown

00:10:17.600 the man joe biden has tapped to become the next chairman of the joint chiefs of staff

00:10:21.380 is at the forefront of that effort he must be stopped rejected by the senate go to reject general

00:10:28.080 brown.org um today we're going to talk in light of all of that background about what do we do about

00:10:34.560 this you're a man of action you invoke it every day with this audience there are specific practical

00:10:41.000 things that we can do we've got three people who have spent their lives working on these kinds of

00:10:46.660 issues and have some great insights into what can be done dr bradley thayer no stranger to this program

00:10:53.120 of course my colleague at the center for security policy the co-author of understanding the china

00:10:59.000 threat is going to be our leadoff batter john linchowski dr linchowski has been uh the uh the guy who

00:11:07.380 helped ronald reagan as his director for soviet affairs on the national security council take down the

00:11:14.020 last great existential threat to freedom from a communist enterprise namely the soviet union he's

00:11:20.180 been the founder and uh running and now the chancellor of a tremendous institution the institute of world

00:11:26.780 politics the author of uh numerous important books including one entitled full spectrum diplomacy

00:11:34.140 and grand strategy required reading if you're in this space uh john will be talking about practical

00:11:41.300 ideas for taking down this existential threat to freedom finally we'll have captain james finnell

00:11:46.500 one of our great heroes in the military ranks now retired from the navy chief of intelligence for the

00:11:53.140 pacific fleet fleet in his last job and a guy who is a great influencer as well as duty expert on

00:12:00.100 how we can use our power including military capabilities as needed to shape the takedown of the chinese communist

00:12:09.220 party which has got to be job one right now so i propose we go to brad thayer quickly for his thoughts

00:12:15.380 on all of this

00:12:20.340 well hi frank thanks very much indeed uh yeah steve and frank for the uh opportunity to present today

00:12:26.580 and frank thanks so much for organizing uh the uh the sessions uh that we've had this week they've been

00:12:33.140 extremely helpful in allowing us to understand the nature of the threat that we face uh from the chinese

00:12:38.820 communist party what i'd like to do is talk about why the regime is in a legitimation crisis that is

00:12:44.500 why the chinese communist party under xi jinping uh faces um is in free fall in essence uh uh and

00:12:52.740 that's really for two reasons one of which is fundamentally communism is an illegitimate ideology

00:12:59.140 uh it was imposed on the chinese people uh really by stalin working through the communist international

00:13:06.740 uh it was not duly elected uh it was not duly elected there's no mandate from the people whatsoever

00:13:11.860 uh in um uh in the way the ccp came to power they were imposed by an external force and they are

00:13:21.220 representative of a western ideology um it's uh the communism originates obviously in in the west

00:13:30.260 um and it's uh fundamental if you will uh thinkers are all western um and the ideology was given uh to the

00:13:39.940 chinese communist party uh and uh and they've ruled obviously as every communist state has ruled

00:13:47.460 disastrously for the chinese people uh and for uh the people of the world uh indeed second point to keep

00:13:55.700 in mind is that right now the regime is facing a legitimation crisis not only because it's communist

00:14:02.260 but because xi jinping is in a period of enormous peril uh this is a leadership which is in free fall

00:14:09.620 it's a leadership which has overstepped his ability uh to govern i think that explains the purges that

00:14:16.820 we're witnessing uh hu jintao at the 20th party congress was unceremoniously evicted uh previous

00:14:25.140 communist leader uh before xi jinping hu jintao and then the foreign minister uh the defense minister

00:14:32.260 senior military officials there are reports even his doctors uh are are getting purged so we have here

00:14:40.740 with xi jinping a leader uh who's overstepped his bounds uh who's beyond his capacity and is

00:14:48.180 increasingly becoming paranoid and as this regime and the crisis of this regime worsens

00:14:54.820 it spreads to the elite obviously and deepens and broadens uh we should expect action against taiwan

00:15:02.420 that uh this paranoid leader uh and the illegitimate clique that he's running uh is going to aggress

00:15:09.780 therefore we should expect aggression against taiwan uh i think far sooner uh than is believed in washington dc

00:15:17.860 for example or in in many circles where it's at least a couple of years out the regime is in a

00:15:24.260 legitimation crisis it makes it fundamentally dangerous and to resolve the box he got him that

00:15:31.380 xi jinping has got himself into he's going to reach out and start a war uh to help him uh resolve the

00:15:38.660 situation so it's a profoundly dangerous time uh dr dr thayer dr thayer hang her for one second i just got

00:15:47.300 to ask you about this legitimization miles aguo about two years ago talked to me about this and of course

00:15:53.300 miles is one of the heads of the anti-ccp movement so he comes with his own kind of set

00:15:58.260 world view but then i heard from a lot of china hands from council people that have been working

00:16:05.700 with the ccp but then became kind of semi-hawks following what we did with the trump administration

00:16:12.420 they reinforced it and they said particularly juan shishan who stepped back a little bit i guess is

00:16:18.100 the number two and in the financial henchman was spending all of his time worrying about in in

00:16:24.820 meeting cadres talking about this this issue of the chinese communist party's legitimization

00:16:32.100 what drove that why the sudden these guys have been in power for so long they've subjugated the

00:16:36.660 chinese people lao baijing they've got at least to the outside world that this kind of economic miracle

00:16:44.020 supported by although even if a lot of it's potemkin village financed by the west why does one

00:16:49.300 shishan a couple of years ago who's really the hammer why does he pivot and start to worry

00:16:54.740 about that i think for two major reasons one because the fruits of communism are now being born

00:17:01.460 right that this the misrule of this this ideology doesn't work it's never worked uh they were able

00:17:08.580 to move it along this far because of force and coercion gross human rights abuses and because we bailed them

00:17:16.900 out right that we allowed them to enter our economic ecosystem which allowed the ccp gave them a rebirth

00:17:25.540 uh when they might have been overthrown uh when they might have been overthrown they had a chance uh

00:17:29.300 to under dung jiao ping a great strategist uh who recognized that uh he could make western elites his

00:17:38.420 partner uh wall street and u.s firms would invest uh in the ccp and they would get rich uh together

00:17:46.580 thus saving the ccp and some crumbs would flow down to the chinese people

00:17:51.780 uh so for those reasons steve uh things were able to essentially sputter along to where we are today

00:17:59.060 but now those that time is over and it's the biden administration is obviously trying to save them

00:18:05.060 uh with the cavalcade of leadership of of uh secretaries for example and john kerry who visited but

00:18:13.540 the fundamental problem is rooted in the ideology it's rooted in the fact that they were

00:18:18.580 allowed into our eco economic ecosystem and trump did his utmost to try to root them out of that

00:18:24.900 but the problems social problems economic problems the demographic problems but fundamentally uh the

00:18:33.700 misrule of xi jinping and his paranoia uh which is greatly increasing are leading them to this crisis

00:18:42.340 today and the we should we should mark it well because this is going to have profound implications

00:18:48.820 uh for the people of the world for the united states the american people our military uh for our allies

00:18:55.460 and and globally so it's a very dangerous time steve could i just make one quick point on this uh

00:19:01.700 and it wouldn't sure sure that's exactly right of course when he's talking about

00:19:05.940 the previous bailout a man who played an instrumental role in that previous bailout

00:19:13.700 by the flow of funds from wall street to the chinese communist party is the man who's now being

00:19:22.340 investigated for impeachment for bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors i think treason ought to be

00:19:30.660 among them that would be joe biden his 2013 memorandum of understanding which he presided over and helped

00:19:38.900 get done gave the chinese communist party as you know preferential access to our capital markets so not

00:19:46.180 only were we making a very very ill-advised play to prop up our mortal enemy but we were also doing it on

00:19:56.260 a basis that put american investors at material and undisclosed risk and has kept them there

00:20:04.580 with the distinct possibility that if the war that uh brad is talking about comes they'll lose

00:20:10.420 everything that ought to be on the docket for this inquiry as well thank you amen shall we get to uh john

00:20:19.860 lachowski with some of his insights based on having actually helped take down a totalitarian system like

00:20:26.980 the chinese communist party namely the soviet union and what we need to be doing now

00:20:32.820 sure let's do it john over to you

00:20:39.140 hello gentlemen thank you very much for inviting me

00:20:42.180 um i think this is a terrific program and uh i'm and i'd just like to say that uh it is part of the

00:20:52.340 solution uh i believe that the the real solution here first has to come with telling the truth the truth

00:21:01.620 is the most powerful weapon that we have uh ideally it should come from those who have the biggest megaphones

00:21:09.940 in our country uh and around the world principally the president and his cabinet members uh but uh the

00:21:21.140 the truth is necessary because there has been so much self-censorship by so many people in our leadership

00:21:30.420 for so many years about the nature of of chinese communism and it all started when henry kissinger

00:21:39.300 and and and and richard nixon opened the door to china as a way of doing 19th century balance of power

00:21:47.700 politics uh to to play the so-called china card against the soviet union and in the process of that uh it made

00:21:57.540 the uh the it distinguished between bad communists the the soviet union and the good communists

00:22:05.460 in beijing and that created an element of moral strategic confusion that continues to last to this

00:22:13.060 day among many segments of our public and particularly our elites uh there has been a catastrophic lack of

00:22:21.540 understanding of the nature of communism of its history of how it works uh people think that that china

00:22:30.420 moved into ceased to be a communist country of course that was a central disinformation and strategic deception

00:22:38.260 theme of uh uh of the chinese communists and their their political influence operations

00:22:45.300 and uh uh uh the the the the lack of of study about communism uh has meant that so many people

00:22:58.020 uh have completely misunderstood its genetic code and and it's um uh and the fact that even under lenin in the 1920s

00:23:10.340 lenin adopted uh market reforms ostensible market reforms some decentralization of economic decision

00:23:19.620 making uh that uh that was perfectly in consonance with orthodox communism

00:23:26.260 uh well uh that's telling the truth about all of these things about the nature of its of the regime

00:23:33.780 its crimes against its own people uh its aggression and subversion and espionage and technology theft

00:23:41.220 abroad its elite capture as frank mentioned earlier all of these are absolute all of this is a prerequisite

00:23:48.980 for an intelligent strategy but then a lot of people have come up with many good defensive strategies

00:23:56.980 concerning uh the ccp uh denying them access to our capital markets uh giving uh bolstering our military

00:24:07.620 bolstering the taiwanese uh military uh and uh you know restricting uh their their access to our

00:24:18.100 scientific research institutions uh and and and all of the other methods by which they they um are

00:24:27.620 stealing our intellectual property uh but uh i think that is what's absolutely key

00:24:35.300 is to to help bring about political change in china and uh this is an offensive strategy and not

00:24:44.180 simply defense and um in order to do we can't do that it's the chinese people who have to do it but the

00:24:52.500 chinese people have been suppressed they are atomized that means every individual is separated from every

00:25:00.580 other individual because of an atmosphere of fear and mistrust people have to live according to the

00:25:09.220 the ideological party line the ideology is central to all of this and of course it's it's directly related

00:25:17.940 to the question of legitimacy that brad raised earlier the the central fact of political life

00:25:25.380 in in communist china is the illegitimacy of the regime the fact that it rules without the consent of the

00:25:32.420 governed and that the regime is afraid of its own people and that fear of its own people is is the central

00:25:41.940 fact of of political life there and and so that's why they have this massive internal security system um

00:25:52.340 um for the state uh you know and and and and the ideology and the the which sets the standard of

00:26:01.860 conformity um it's it's the vehicle of thought control speech control and ultimately behavior control

00:26:10.660 is is an essential part of that internal security system but also another part of it is the

00:26:18.100 all right dr dr john can you just hang up can you just hang up for one second i want to continue

00:26:23.140 this we're going to take a short commercial break we're going to return absolutely fascinating and

00:26:27.940 and frank once again thank you uh so much for putting this together we're going to take a short

00:26:31.860 commercial break we'll be back in the war room in just a moment

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00:32:07.300 war room battleground with stephen k bannon by the way one of the great institutions we have

00:32:19.940 in the fight for uh freedom throughout the world the institute of world politics the head of it uh

00:32:23.860 the founder of it uh dr linchowski joins sir you continue on you you had this thought i want to

00:32:29.780 make sure we fully develop it so so continue on yeah thank you steve um the point that i would like

00:32:37.940 to emphasize here is that not only is the ideology an essential part of the internal security system

00:32:45.940 but what i consider to be that really the nucleus of that system is the is the regime's monopoly control

00:32:53.620 of information and communications which is what enables them to have their ideological party line

00:33:01.940 prevail over the minds of the chinese people that monopoly has to be broken so that the chinese people

00:33:10.740 can communicate with one another because if they can't communicate with one another well they cannot

00:33:18.100 organize into cells of resistance uh and there is resistance in china there is somewhere around there

00:33:25.620 are somewhere around 150 000 civil disturbances in china as many as that every year usually they're

00:33:32.900 demonstrations against local corruption uh by local communist officials and and the local uh you know

00:33:41.780 privileged authorities but but but but but hang up dr linchowski there's no doubt there's no doubt that

00:33:47.060 that there's a seething freedom and liberty movement of the chinese people allowed by jink you saw that

00:33:52.340 in tanaman square the goddess of democracy however i i just gotta ask i've got captain finnell who's one

00:33:58.980 of the great heroes in the american military in the 21st century cashiered because he spoke the truth

00:34:06.020 about the chinese threat you got dr bradley thayer who's beloved by our audience that's no longer the

00:34:11.060 university he used to be at when he first came on here right you've got um you've got gaffney's

00:34:16.900 under in the committee on the present danger under pressure all the time tough for them to get on

00:34:20.900 media because they're considered too too uh too radical in their confrontation with the chinese

00:34:25.700 communist party donald trump's got 90 when the leader who actually went against china institutionally

00:34:31.300 and shifted the whole focus of our government 91 indictments 700 years in prison miles grow who came

00:34:37.220 over as a dissident and kind of mentored a lot of us about the dangers of the ccp it sits in a federal

00:34:42.660 prison in brooklyn with all any rights of the of any american citizen thrown out the window pre-trial

00:34:48.740 and steve bannon i've already got a four-month federal uh prison sentence in front of me and and

00:34:54.580 more to come so as the chinese people and the one thing you know about the chinese they're quite

00:34:58.980 practical and quite pragmatic as they sit there and look at the people that have been at the forefront

00:35:05.620 of the anti-ccp movement in the united states the bastion of liberty and freedom that are under

00:35:11.460 assault at every level how can they sit there and think hey the americans are going to help us here

00:35:16.660 the americans in fact the americans that try to help them are the ones under the most pressure

00:35:22.740 by the uniparty elite in our country sir

00:35:25.380 well um i acknowledge the pressure that uh that the figures yourself included have been under

00:35:36.660 but i'd also like to say that thanks to a lot of people's work including yours and frank's and brad's

00:35:44.340 and so on and and and and captain finnell's for goodness sake there has been a considerable increase

00:35:52.420 in the number of people who are writing speaking uh and and and discussing these issues about china

00:36:02.340 it is a major improvement that has happened within the last several years uh and there there are uh

00:36:10.820 and and and and they not every one of those people is is under attack and so there is some cause

00:36:18.100 for optimism along those lines there are an increasing there's an increasing number of

00:36:23.460 of good signologists out there there are capitol hill staffers who are working on these things i've

00:36:29.380 been in touch with uh with with a couple of them um and uh and and and we're graduating

00:36:38.020 so it's like and and dr dr dr lomchowski but i i yes i fully got and by the way i wasn't trying to

00:36:46.100 say poor woe is us all of us are tough hombres and we knew what we were signing up for so we get it

00:36:51.220 i'm saying about the chinese people making a bet you dedicated your life a big portion of your working

00:36:57.860 life as frank gaffney and others to take down the the communist regime that was destroying the russian

00:37:05.540 people and think about it within six months of the berlin wall coming down six months before

00:37:12.100 the tenement square where the american elites came in and bailed out the chinese communist party

00:37:18.420 when they're absolutely about to collapse so if i'm laobajang and i look in 1949 the united states

00:37:25.060 essentially gave the country to mao se tong and in 1989 when the chinese people not with no help from

00:37:32.340 the united states rose up to throw off these barbarians and these savages they were bailed out by the american

00:37:37.780 elites and not just that the republican party conservative elites and now look again where

00:37:43.940 many of the big donors of the republican party and the fat cats are every day trying to finance

00:37:48.660 them and bail them out and quite frankly the bush regime right now is trying to do another bailout

00:37:53.060 how can the chinese people how can laobajang sit there and go people in the united states how can

00:37:58.020 they be even if some of these people have good will and good intentions their government the

00:38:03.940 government of the united states has consistently since time immemorial supported this dictatorial regime

00:38:11.460 sir well i can only say that for all of the people who have been compromised and neutralized by beijing

00:38:20.980 in our country and you're talking about media hollywood sinologists graduate students uh members of congress

00:38:29.940 local uh local uh local political officials businesses etc for all of that let's remember that the there

00:38:39.060 was that it was a very small number of people during the reagan administration who actually developed the

00:38:46.100 strategies to help put the straws on the soviet camels back i would say that it was not more than about

00:38:54.420 two dozen people altogether who were in key policy making positions who made the policy there were

00:39:01.940 hundreds of implementers but a very small number of policy makers and so in a world where a single

00:39:09.140 person can make a difference in a world where alexander solzhenitsyn says that one way one word of truth

00:39:17.300 outweighs the world uh i am not pessimistic about this and and i believe that with good leadership we can

00:39:26.420 turn to turn the tide and we can help the chinese people whom we should start calling our allies in this

00:39:34.180 struggle against totalitarianism amen indeed amen doctor can we can we captain finnell yeah and i gotta ask

00:39:43.140 captain finnell just for our audience sir when you stood up and i want you to stood up years ago and

00:39:49.060 talk truth to power to warn the american people and everything you said was true and has come true today

00:39:55.620 did you believe at that time that the country would be in the shape it's in today what 10 years later or

00:40:02.180 slightly over 10 years later of what your warning was to the not just the american military but to the american

00:40:07.540 people well first of all thank you so much uh for inviting me i'm honored to be on this panel uh

00:40:15.860 no i did not think things would go this fast in terms of our own internal decay and cancer that seems

00:40:20.740 to be eating us out uh but i'm very uh like uh dr lankowski uh his enthusiasm and positivism is something

00:40:30.180 that we have to continually put before us that we are americans and we don't give up and we keep fighting

00:40:36.500 and that message goes through uh to people even in china in my opinion um so that's kind of where

00:40:43.460 i'm at i i kind of wanted to address the neanderthal part of this uh discussion which is where i live

00:40:48.820 most of the time which is what do we have to do uh first i have four elements for the first is the

00:40:54.740 culture of the department of defense yesterday you had uh colonel grant neuchemann and i just

00:40:59.700 wholeheartedly concur with what he said about stopping the social engineering and the wokeism that's

00:41:05.940 infecting uh and it is a cancer into the department of defense so that was the first thing that has to

00:41:11.140 change is we have to have congress outlaw these kinds of things so that's the first thing we need

00:41:17.380 to do the second would be how we approach uh the prc and the pla in terms of talking about them and what

00:41:25.860 they're doing um for instance when putin invaded the ukraine the american people understood what was

00:41:32.900 happening they had some reporting that was from the ukraine that said here's what's happening where

00:41:38.100 we're being attacked in 1990 we knew what saddam was doing when he invaded kuwait we knew what happened

00:41:44.660 and the american people understood what happened when hitler invaded the sudetenland and took over

00:41:49.140 poland and things of that nature we have not done a good job in telling the american people what the pla is

00:41:55.780 doing and we have been bringing this up it was actually in some congressional legislation in 2019

00:42:02.740 and national defense authorization act and there seems to be an institutional resistance inside

00:42:08.740 the department of defense and specifically at indopacom that does not want to report out what

00:42:13.780 the pla is doing on a daily basis for instance right now as we're talking the chinese have a 10 ship

00:42:20.020 surface action group carrier strike group operating east of taiwan flying uh and threatening taiwan and

00:42:26.580 also northern luzon in the republic of philippines our treaty ally uh also today the uss america amphibious

00:42:34.340 assault helicopter ship with some canadian ships and south korean ships are conducting the 73rd year

00:42:40.100 anniversary of the landing in incheon and today the global times said those ships should not be in the

00:42:46.180 yellow sea and chinese military forces are able to target and strike u.s warships in the yellow sea

00:42:54.020 they do a lot more than that but this is a couple of examples of where the u.s indo-pacific command and

00:42:59.220 the department of defense refused to educate the american people about the military threat that's coming

00:43:05.860 from the prc we hear about economic threats we hear about chips but we don't hear about the threat

00:43:12.100 and when we talk about an invasion of taiwan which we we have already today sometimes people forget

00:43:17.380 that it's not just an invasion of taiwan and taiwan people when the prc invades taiwan they will kill

00:43:23.700 americans that are stationed in japan that are in guam that are stationed maybe in deployment status in

00:43:30.260 the philippines they are going to kill americans so when we talk about invading taiwan it's not just a

00:43:35.940 well who cares about the taiwanese which we should but it's also about caring about american sailors and

00:43:41.300 soldiers and marines and airmen the other thing we need to do is how do we operate in the pacific

00:43:48.180 we have a lot of people there are forces that conduct intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance

00:43:52.900 operations sometimes i worry about that they're going to be picked off we had ships that were

00:43:57.300 transiting through the taiwan strait they're at risk so if we have the right mentality to be able to

00:44:04.100 prepare ourselves for an attack a sneak attack from the chinese i don't think our forces are

00:44:10.100 necessarily uh incapable of that defense but i don't think it's a culture that's being hammered

00:44:16.740 into them to be prepared for something like that and we need to have that which gets us to the last

00:44:22.180 point which is really about uh our defense industrial base the things that i've talked about are the things

00:44:27.540 that we need to be able to have uh to operate in that heightened posture so we need the congress to pass

00:44:34.820 what they did in the 1940 the two ocean navy act which built thousands of warships for the u.s navy

00:44:42.500 what are we doing in that regard today to bring and build the u.s pacific fleet i think there's some

00:44:48.500 our air forces have uh building requirements industrial base requirements and most importantly our nuclear

00:44:55.140 force structure is in dilapidated shape relatively speaking to the great strides that the pla has made

00:45:02.420 uh over the last uh decade uh with now 350 icvm silos out in central and western china to combine with

00:45:11.220 the new improved uh ballistic missile submarines they have with the jl-3 that can range uh most of the

00:45:18.500 west coast of the united states from uh the bastions of the south china sea or the the yellow sea if you will

00:45:25.460 so china has a capacity to strike nuclear weapons on the united states of america today where are we in

00:45:32.500 in terms of deterring that also we should be putting and thinking and talking about tactical nuclear

00:45:38.260 weapons to be brought into taiwan because we have to do something right now to deter xi uh as we've

00:45:45.060 discussed in this in this broadcast about how he's under a lot of pressure who knows when he's going to

00:45:50.020 strike out a lot of smart people are saying in the next 12 to 18 months and we need to be prepared

00:45:56.180 for a war but more importantly we have to do something to throw sand in his planning gears

00:46:00.740 to cause him to stop and reconsider and the most immediate thing we can do is to put tactical nuclear

00:46:06.740 weapons on taiwan and then the second thing we can do is to start operating u.s military forces in and out

00:46:12.900 of taiwan naval ship port visits naval operations uh with the taiwan's and our other allies and as

00:46:19.620 well as air forces and and other u.s military operations most people say that's crazy and it's

00:46:25.620 an it will incite china to act i think what we really need to recognize is they have not planned for that

00:46:32.580 they have not calculated that and those are the actions that we should be taking um if if we for if we

00:46:39.300 for deployed tactical nuclear weapons if we for deployed tactical nuclear weapons into taiwan

00:46:44.980 and xi was to strike that surface action group what what would happen to a carrier battle group

00:46:51.380 today as far as war fighting goes in your mind captain finnell uh if there was an attack with

00:46:57.780 how long would a surface action group carry a battle group last in the straits of taiwan today

00:47:04.340 in the straits of taiwan they wouldn't last very long so we wouldn't put the carrier in the strait

00:47:09.460 we would keep it east of taiwan and that's the real problem is that the chinese have built what

00:47:13.620 they call counter intervention weapons that are designed to keep us outside of the second island

00:47:18.660 chain with ballistic missiles like the df-21d the df-26 that can range to guam the df-26 so if we go

00:47:27.140 inside west of guam towards taiwan we are now under the envelope of these ballistic missiles that are

00:47:33.700 traveling at mach 10 to mach 30 and are corking in corkscrew in to make them very difficult to hit

00:47:40.500 so we have systems that can deceive those uh sensors on those missiles but but that's not a hundred percent

00:47:46.420 guarantee so we're operating under duress in those uh threat envelopes but we have to get close enough

00:47:52.580 for our air wings to be able to deliver ordnance to be able to strike the fleet that the the prc would have

00:47:58.260 to come across the strait or to to disrupt their air control or air supremacy strategy that they would

00:48:03.940 have for over the strait and over taiwan but this is the real challenge is that we have to get inside

00:48:09.780 and fight a bare knuckle fight inside an enemy that has longer arms and longer reach and better weapons

00:48:15.860 and this is the real challenge that we have right now which means that we have to accelerate

00:48:20.660 our military modernization and we can't just go along to get along and continue to act like the same

00:48:26.900 procurement strategies that we've had for decades the last 30 years are not going to cut it the

00:48:32.740 shipbuilding plan that you get from this new cno admiral franchetti she was the vice chief of naval

00:48:38.500 operations she didn't do anything to really dramatically change that and we were on the trajectory slowly

00:48:44.740 going down we need something that makes us go up we need to think out of the box about other capabilities

00:48:50.900 drones unmanned systems retired ships that we had in in in mothballs can we bring those out and put

00:48:58.020 something on them that allow them to become like arsenal ships we have to treat this for the threat

00:49:03.540 that it is and get better leadership captain for now we got to bounce yeah what is your what is your

00:49:10.100 social media how do people get to you to find out more about your writing your thinking

00:49:13.460 uh i i don't have a social media account i just do emails on my what i call my red

00:49:20.100 stuff we don't want to give what check him out yeah we don't want to give you an email

00:49:27.060 danger china and securing america you're featuring him regularly dr thayer bradley thayer where do people

00:49:33.140 where do our audience who loves you where they go to get you uh center for security policy.org

00:49:39.140 uh it's a great way and then uh on getter and truth at bradley fair

00:49:46.020 dr lumchowski uh institute of world politics i want everybody to get access to that where do

00:49:50.420 people go where do people go to get you personally um our website is i wp

00:49:58.260 dot edu institute of world politics i wp dot edu and i uh i have a number of my speeches uh on uh

00:50:13.060 under our events tab um and uh you can google me for articles and some of the books that i've written

00:50:22.260 i need to uh i need to do a little bit more i have my own you know john hyphen lynchavsky uh

00:50:31.860 you know.com uh website but um uh i don't put a lot of stuff on there uh but uh we're you know

00:50:42.900 we at iwp are teaching graduate students and putting them into the permanent government uh and

00:50:50.980 and it is and many of them are making enormous contributions for our national security and so

00:50:57.380 we're always interested in finding students to come and study who want to serve their country

00:51:05.140 amen amen amazing thank you sir great warrior frank gaffney um i'm just going to close by saying uh we have

00:51:13.060 treated you all to a important introduction to many of these topics uh much more is contained in this

00:51:20.100 book which steve published at war room imprint uh we're available at uh the indictment book.com

00:51:29.140 also present danger china.org for all of these webinars and uh not least uh our show securing

00:51:36.020 america.tv i commend that to you as well steve thank you so much for taking the time to do this i

00:51:41.460 hope we can do it again do you thank you yeah the quality of this is unbelievable by the way the

00:51:46.180 reason we made the indictment the first book under our new imprint with skyhorse is as captain finnell

00:51:52.740 always tells me keep the main thing the main thing and that is taking down the chinese communist party

00:51:59.220 guys thank you very much gentlemen okay uh tomorrow we're going to be on fire i think you're gonna have

00:52:03.940 two hours with just me there's so much news going on so much analysis we're going to break it all down

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Bannon's War Room - September 15, 2023

WarRoom Battleground EP 374： Outline For Taking Down The CCP

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