Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 382： Why Won't They Actually Charge Ray Epps

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:17.200 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the

00:00:24.160 authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just

00:00:30.000 like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and

00:00:34.720 misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is

00:00:39.040 the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's

00:00:46.080 your host stephen k bannon okay wednesday uh 27 september year of our lord 2023 uh julie kelly

00:00:54.720 has uh agreed she's rolled over from the the previous hour julie i want to go back to this

00:00:59.760 because there's a lot of confusion and they're up you know they've had this intense debate

00:01:04.800 all day long about the dhs uh budget the dhs what's happening dhs you're going to have fbi doj all of

00:01:12.960 it here shortly um this one understand why is this there's appears to be a coddling

00:01:20.640 of ray epps and and they've just done enough to kind of uh say oh look uh right-wing media of julie

00:01:27.680 kelly and uh and darren beady and raheem kasam uh and uh in war room etc these guys are uh they're

00:01:36.000 they're they're yeah they're out of control the conspiracy theorists what i don't understand this

00:01:39.920 epps situation i understand where these guys have gone a belt suspender another belt on all these

00:01:46.800 other people wandering through the capital and giving them upgraded terrorism charges

00:01:52.080 how can they make how can according to you it's a what 45 minute miss just in the tape itself

00:02:02.800 in addition is all kind of additional activities ma'am so that is the big question and we have been

00:02:11.040 told to shut up that we're conspiracy theorists that there's nothing to this ray epps now is a victim

00:02:16.640 he gets these sympathetic profiles in the corporate media he had this you know glowing interview with 60

00:02:22.800 minutes where he told at least part of his story so now more than 32 months later he's finally charged

00:02:29.680 we now know based on this video evidence the doj lied about his activity we know that ray epps lied to

00:02:36.160 the january 6 select committee so there's two thoughts number one is that ray epps has filed this

00:02:42.080 defamation lawsuit against fox news for suggesting that he was a government agent who provoked the events

00:02:49.440 of january 6 that lawsuit is still pending and ironically it's pending before judge norieka who was the

00:02:56.800 judge that scuttled the hunter biden sweetheart plea deal so that's sort of an interesting wrinkle there

00:03:02.560 also the trial well now it will be a bench trial of ryan samsel the man in the red hat who ray epps

00:03:10.080 whispered to right before ryan and others um tossed down or tore down this metal rack barrier

00:03:17.680 near the peace circle at about 12 55 that day there's conflicting reports and in fact i interviewed ryan

00:03:25.360 samsel a few months ago and he backtracked on what he initially told the fbi which is that ray epps said

00:03:32.320 hey calm down these are the police they're here to help us what ryan samsel told me a few months ago

00:03:39.200 and ryan samsel has been in jail transferred to numerous prisons since his arrest in january of 2021

00:03:46.480 doj at the same time they're protecting ray epps has delayed ryan samsel's trial now for almost

00:03:52.960 three years steve it is now scheduled to start next month so what ryan samsel told me is that ray

00:04:01.120 epps said hey just calm down we've got don't push we've got more people coming that's what ryan samsel

00:04:08.880 told me that ray epps actually said now is that true i don't know but ray epps will have to testify

00:04:16.400 under oath on a stand on the stand if he's called as either defense or government witness in ryan samsel's

00:04:22.320 trial exactly what he said because no other witness will be more relevant in ryan samsel's trial

00:04:30.240 than ray epps so is this a way to you know sort of plead him out protect him in a way i will tell

00:04:37.280 you that his plea agreement only covers the activity until about 12 15 it excuse me 2 15 it only relates

00:04:46.160 to the statement of offense and what that doj detailed well now we know doj knows and ray epps

00:04:53.760 knows that he was on restricted grounds for at least another 40 minutes is that sort of the hammer

00:04:59.760 that doj has over ray epps's head okay well you plead guilty to this we can't charge you with anything

00:05:05.760 else related to this time period but hey by the way we've got you on camera doing other things for

00:05:12.160 another 30 40 minutes so he's not protected from prosecution for that activity there is something

00:05:19.440 going on here that does not make sense on a lot of levels and so that's why going through this

00:05:25.120 surveillance video i was really blown away to see not only ray epps just his presence there but what

00:05:32.240 he was doing for almost two hours on capital grounds that day um what did samsel do tell our audience

00:05:41.920 what did brian samsel do that's so horrific that day that they would hold him kind of against the u.s

00:05:49.600 constitution for for three years before trial yeah it's sort of uh horrifying what's happened to

00:05:56.080 ryan samsel look brian samsel uh has a criminal record he shouldn't have been anywhere near january 6th

00:06:01.840 he was a barber in pennsylvania i he told me decided at the last minute to go i think with his girlfriend

00:06:08.160 and someone else to the capitol he was at peace circle you'll recall that's where some of the proud

00:06:13.600 boys were uh joe biggs and ethan nordine where a few fbi informants were by the way as well uh so

00:06:21.280 brian samsel was there he was kind of talking with police at this exterior bike rack at peace circle

00:06:26.480 about 12 50. he's chatting i think he whispered something to joe biggs one of the proud boys then all

00:06:32.800 of a sudden he's at police lines there's some banter back and forth between protesters and police

00:06:37.840 uh ray epps kind of pulls ryan samsel aside whisper something in his ear well rather than ryan samsel

00:06:44.720 backing off he goes back to the police line he turns around his red maga hat so whoever's

00:06:51.920 photographing from behind can see it says make america great again ryan samsel and a few other

00:06:57.920 individuals get into a physical confrontation with capitol police officers the bike rack is knocked

00:07:03.760 over a police officer caroline edwards is also knocked over samsel actually went over to her to

00:07:10.000 try to help her get up she does get up and they all advance up these stairs towards the west uh side west

00:07:18.160 plaza of the capitol grounds ryan samsel as well and ray epps so you could see ryan samsel walking around

00:07:24.800 at one point ryan samsel gave aid to a man named joshua black who was shot in the cheek with a

00:07:31.760 rubber bullet by either capitol police or i believe it was dc metro police uh so aside from ryan samsel

00:07:38.960 knocking over helping to knock over that first bike rack which resulted in caroline edwards falling down 1.00

00:07:44.720 as well i don't really know what else ryan samsel did that's far worse than what ray epps did ryan

00:07:51.120 samsel never went inside the building um i believe he probably left even before ray epps left

00:07:56.640 restricted grounds so we've got this really horrific unconstitutional treatment of ryan 0.84

00:08:02.880 hold it hold it hold it hold it hold it hold it hang hang one second you're telling this audience

00:08:08.640 that you think that samsel might have left the grounds before 2 50 p.m in the afternoon is when

00:08:15.200 ray epps at least on the video left i believe so i will double check and let you know but i believe

00:08:22.080 that he did leave hold it before so ray epps so ray epps breached ray epps breached the barrier

00:08:30.480 on the other side hours before correct was the first guy to breach are you telling us that in the video

00:08:37.760 footage that you've seen that what samsel does is with other people after he after epps talks to him

00:08:47.280 he leads the the breach or whatever it was of the of the bike racks that knocks down the police officer

00:08:53.360 but then he helps her get up that's it there's nothing else this guy does he goes up to the western

00:08:59.440 side of the building with a lot of other people including ray epps uh you could see him walking around

00:09:04.160 as i said he he got into confrontations with police i don't think he laid a hand on any police officer

00:09:10.240 um but he was helping at least this one individual who had been assaulted by police

00:09:16.000 i don't think that he engaged in any other violent behavior towards police but he faces multiple serious

00:09:23.280 charges including aiding and abetting assault on police and obstruction of an official proceeding

00:09:28.480 which i will tell you steve it makes no sense giving right ray epps's conduct his presence his time

00:09:35.680 table that he is not facing that felony count that's been slapped against more than 300 individuals

00:09:42.560 no he didn't go in the building but others who were charged with obstruction including donald trump

00:09:47.200 by the way who is that there also have been charged with obstruction ray epps was crucially involved

00:09:55.760 in the two what doj calls breach point one and breach point two before people got inside the building

00:10:02.960 he was right there at both of those breach points and he was there right before the joint session

00:10:09.920 convened and he stayed there at least another half hour after congress after the house and senate were

00:10:18.000 recessed and of course the building evacuated of lawmakers if there's anyone who should be charged

00:10:24.000 with obstruction of an official proceeding who helped prompt the shutdown of the joint session that day

00:10:31.840 it would be someone like ray epps so how does he just get away with this single low level misdemeanor

00:10:37.920 count none of it adds up and i could give you a number of cases i was going through the entire

00:10:44.560 capital breach investigation website today i can give you many several defendants who did not go inside the

00:10:51.440 building who were engaged in similar conduct or far less serious conduct than ray epps who face multiple

00:10:57.840 charges including obstruction civil disorder things like that charges that ray epps does not face

00:11:06.480 what did i want to go back to this um you said ryan um ryan sansel told the police what what did he first

00:11:14.400 tell the police ray epps said to him in his ear what did he say initially ray epps uh excuse me ryan

00:11:22.000 samsel told the fbi that ray epps was trying to calm him down basically saying they're the police they're

00:11:29.680 here to help um ray epps said you know i was just telling him no no no you know don't do anything

00:11:36.880 doesn't really seem that way if you watch closely and for people who want to see i have that video

00:11:41.920 segment also in my piece of declassified with julie kelly they could see that first breach point and

00:11:46.560 exactly what ray epps how his he engaged gauges with ryan samsel doesn't seem like that's something

00:11:53.680 ray epps was saying but ryan samsel that's what he told the fbi initially in january 2021 his story

00:11:59.760 now has changed and this could factor into uh the ray epps situation right now as ryan samsel is prepared

00:12:08.240 to go to trial next month what what is the what is ryan samsel he did the what does ryan samsel now

00:12:16.160 say ray epps told me so ryan samsel told me over the summer that ray epps said basically calm down

00:12:25.200 you don't need to do it don't push we've got more people coming that is what ryan samsel told me ray

00:12:32.480 epps told him before this breach there he is right there now watch ryan samsel

00:12:42.000 now if if ray epps was telling him to calm down why did ryan samsel and others then do that and why

00:12:48.800 is ray epps standing right there 60 year old tough former marine why is he not pulling these guys back

00:12:56.320 now watch him advance up the stairs with the rest of these protesters you see ryan samsel there with

00:13:02.160 caroline edwards on the right attempting to help her up there he goes right to the front

00:13:15.600 caroline edwards was she not the one that testified in the front of the j6 uh hearing

00:13:22.320 she did caroline edwards did testify she said that she got a concussion from that fall

00:13:28.560 uh she did manage to rebound and go back up to the police line that afternoon and i believe she

00:13:36.160 even was inside the building so she did testify she has just been promoted of course caroline edwards

00:13:42.240 did nothing wrong that day at all uh she was hung out to dry as were a lot of capitol police officers

00:13:48.400 by their leadership not steve's son but people like yogananda pitman and others so um but you could see

00:13:55.040 there that ryan samsel attempted to help her ray epps did not try to help her ray epps basically

00:14:01.840 walked right past her and ran up and you'll see that in that video too ran up that platform uh that

00:14:08.960 kind of causeway towards the building where he then participated was a key figure in the second breach

00:14:15.120 which let's play this again

00:14:30.800 and what did ryan ryan samsel went back up to the that's the west side of the

00:14:36.240 of the the capital yes there's this there he is right there it's just for a second a nanosecond

00:14:42.400 um it certainly doesn't seem like he's saying calm down not at all because ryan samsel continues to

00:14:52.560 push continues that that's not ryan samsel saying now that he said we have more

00:15:00.560 we have more troops on the way more people come that's right don't push we have more people coming

00:15:07.360 don't why did ryan samsel ray apps is correct right yes what this video doesn't show is further down

00:15:18.800 at another breach point there are dozens of people assembled right recall the snow fencing that also

00:15:26.560 got torn down the the choreography of this timing what was happening at this point steve keep in mind

00:15:34.480 this is 12 55 on january 6. this is right when the alleged pipe bombs were found this is five minutes

00:15:40.880 before the joint session is supposed to convene this is a few minutes before mike pence drops his

00:15:46.800 bombshell that he's not going to do anything during the joint session of congress it is these fit and

00:15:52.560 this is one thing that my team and i are working on this detailed timeline of all of these things that

00:15:58.720 just happened to occur 15 minutes before the joint session convened um and so ray epps was a key part

00:16:07.280 of that he said he went to dc to protect his son recall he was at black lives matter plaza the night

00:16:12.640 before telling people to go inside the capitol he didn't go he didn't hear trump speak he was either

00:16:18.400 on constitution or independence avenue directing people from the ellipse to the capitol go to the capitol

00:16:24.560 that's where our problems are that's what he kept saying and then there he was for almost two hours

00:16:31.520 really deeply involved at key breach points and initiating some of the confrontations with police

00:16:38.880 getting doused with chemical spray at least three times and he still didn't leave why not and now why is

00:16:45.760 the doj and the corporate media covering for him okay um because he's had the 60 minutes he's had a couple of

00:16:54.240 uh great uh what we call air cover stories by the new york times watch for us others i want to go to

00:17:01.120 something you more than any human in fact it's one of the reasons they gave you the footage have spent

00:17:07.440 dedicate your life to going through this in detail the people that i guess the thousand have been

00:17:14.240 charged and moving through the the the um criminal justice system of people that you've seen and i

00:17:20.960 realize this is a judgment call weighing and measuring what you've seen so far the people

00:17:25.440 that have done just what you've seen ray epps do on all the tape all the videotape footage we have

00:17:32.880 not even the testimony just the videotape footage you've seen with your own eyes

00:17:37.040 what have those people generally been charged with ma'am they have been charged with things like

00:17:43.360 obstruction of an official proceeding obstructing congress engaged in a civil disorder

00:17:49.200 interfering with law enforcement aiding and abetting the assault of law enforcement

00:17:54.480 also i don't i know this is in my piece i don't know if you guys have this ready to go

00:17:58.800 but ray epps also handled this huge eight by ten um not eight by ten inches eight by ten foot trump

00:18:06.800 banner he put his hands on that he directed it towards police as they assaulted that first police line

00:18:14.160 i'm telling you there there it is con contact like that has put people in jail under pre-trial detention

00:18:21.200 not even being convicted and this is at about as doj said 140. so um this is really precipitated a lot

00:18:31.120 of these confrontations between police and protesters so how he got away with putting his hands on that

00:18:37.200 directing people to push that huge metal sign on top of police officers i don't know how he gets away

00:18:45.600 with no charges against law enforcement

00:18:50.480 how um i get by the way we've had andy ogles on we've had elah crane on we've had matt gates

00:18:57.280 bobert all of them in their talk about the uh motion to vacate to remove the speaker of the house

00:19:06.080 it's not simply about this fiasco we have with the continued resolution because the clock's going to

00:19:11.600 run out at midnight as i've told the audience uh since we're the tip of the spear of this prepare

00:19:17.120 that's going to happen they always bring up j6 and they say the constituents is one of the top things

00:19:22.080 they bring up where's the j6 footage now you're one of the curators they've i believe have you received

00:19:29.920 all the j6 footage no and i will explain this there's no way to really get all of it um the

00:19:38.720 footage is archived on terminals at a house office building where we have to go um they've got hundreds

00:19:46.720 of cameras set up and they've got it from january 5th 6th into the 7th so you can request certain

00:19:53.920 cameras and you can stare at this footage from a camera trust me i've had like certain angles that

00:20:00.240 i want to see for example i'm dying to see who constructed the noose remember the gallows we were

00:20:06.320 told that j6ers wanted to drag nancy pelosi and mike pence there's no footage of who constructed that

00:20:12.480 and there's no camera angle that shows that so um but you could request these cameras they kind of

00:20:18.560 walk you through how to look at it but steve as someone who's called for the release of those tapes

00:20:23.280 since may of 2021 was my first article on that um i can see now the challenge that house republicans

00:20:29.760 have that staff has in making that publicly available however as i said a few weeks ago um they

00:20:36.480 have not fulfilled their promise to make this available to the public i know that they are

00:20:40.480 continuing to work on a system that will enable the public to access that online uh but i will say

00:20:47.520 it is not as easy as even someone like i thought early on i thought it would be early on

00:20:54.800 but we put a man on the moon we're spending seven trillion dollars this year there should be this is i

00:21:00.080 think this is a priority this is a priority for the people out there there are 40 000 or how many hours

00:21:07.040 of actual footage is there right now we just know from a from a trt a total runtime count do you even

00:21:13.920 have an idea yes i believe initially we were told 14 000 hours now it went to 44 000 hours but i think

00:21:21.760 that's of the total cctv system so this would include grounds this would include angles and buildings that had

00:21:29.200 nothing to do with january 6th but i do think in terms of prioritizing the footage um all of the

00:21:35.840 relevant uh camera angles inside and outside the building starting the night before even the afternoon

00:21:42.160 of january 5th which was something that i was initially interested looking at certain areas of

00:21:47.840 the building on january 5th who was there um who was meeting you know did you see suspicious actors

00:21:54.320 coming inside the building the night of january 5th or early january 6th uh it wouldn't be a heavy

00:22:01.040 lift to prioritize inside and outside the building um and i i'm still hopeful steve and trust me i'm

00:22:08.000 pushing as hard as i can uh publicly and privately to fulfill that promise because to your point

00:22:16.000 and house republicans know this january 6th is a top issue to the base presidential candidates

00:22:22.960 who refuse to address it or um house republicans who think that this is going to go away are very

00:22:30.800 mistaken they they've had a couple presidents debate these guys i've never heard him ask the question

00:22:37.360 to fox news these people it's not it's not even it's not even what are you talking about january 6th

00:22:41.680 what's that about there's so many questions and and talk about federal agents were you uh comfortable

00:22:47.760 with the response of merrick garland the other day when he said he didn't know how many federal

00:22:52.560 agents and it seemed like a question he never asked it was that is that believable in your mind ma'am

00:22:59.040 i mean it is believable that merrick garland does not know because i really don't think that he's

00:23:04.160 running the day-to-day operations of the department of justice i think that that task runs to um falls

00:23:10.160 to lisa monaco his deputy attorney general long time as you know obama loyalist former chief of

00:23:15.360 staff to robert muller when he ran the fbi she i think is calling most of the shots but furthermore we

00:23:22.000 have not heard confirmation from christopher ray how many fbi informants or undercover agents were

00:23:27.920 involved um steven d'antuano his testimony that was just released last week or two weeks ago losing

00:23:35.600 track of the time he ran the washington field office he told the house um judiciary committee he didn't

00:23:41.360 know how many fbi informants were involved in january 6th so it is likely that they don't know but

00:23:48.400 there's no excuse for them not to is the point because to your uh what you're saying steve and

00:23:54.960 this is something i hear the most about from people how many undercover agents how many informants not

00:24:01.920 just from the fbi um we now know that there were many several undercover metropolitan police department

00:24:11.200 undercover agents involved including some who were dressed like trump supporters who were chanting

00:24:16.320 with trump supporters who were moving towards the west side of the building at the same time ray epps

00:24:22.000 was we know that there were plainclothes capitol police officers we know that there were undercover

00:24:27.120 secret service agents we know that there were agents from dhs involved so this is something that

00:24:34.160 house republicans i think i hope are going to get their arms around because to it i think most republicans

00:24:41.760 now view the events of january 6th far differently than at least you know democrats do certainly not

00:24:48.240 as an insurrection or an active care in the in the last in the last hour raheem just raheem just

00:24:54.480 released a footage or photograph that blows up cassidy hutchinson's on her assertion she never dated

00:25:00.800 matt gates because i think it implies if she lied about that so blatantly what else is she lying about

00:25:06.880 and she's one of the biggest witnesses for j6 uh we got a balance i want to make sure everybody

00:25:11.120 gets your content just one last question quickly are you comfortable in this appropriations process

00:25:16.960 that we're getting to the de-woke and de-weaponize are you seeing people going there tough

00:25:21.360 and cutting this stuff out even in the house and regardless whether it gets passed ultimately by the

00:25:26.240 senate and it becomes part of the joint bill do you see the fight by the republicans in the house to

00:25:31.680 get to the bottom of all this and to defund what should be defunded i do and i think that they're

00:25:39.040 sincere even some people who aren't as outspoken i think they are sincere about exposing uh multiple

00:25:45.040 angles of january 6th so it is encouraging um but really this doj and fbi need to be held in account for

00:25:53.200 what they're not just what they did on january 6th but certainly this retaliatory abusive vengeful

00:25:59.760 prosecution that we are only in the halfway point at steve by the way we've had almost 20 people

00:26:05.920 arrested in the month of september alone more than 200 individuals arrested this year matthew graves

00:26:13.360 u.s attorney for dc is not stopping merrick garland's not stopping lisa monaco is not stopping

00:26:19.040 so uh this is an ongoing travesty that um i think republicans even those who wanted to keep their

00:26:25.920 hands off of it for the past almost three years they are not going to be able to

00:26:31.760 julie how do people get to your writing to your substack all of it so thanks steve i'm at declassified

00:26:38.480 with julie kelly that's where all my work can be found substack uh twitter julie underscore kelly

00:26:43.200 too and truth social at julie underscore kelly a blockbuster story tonight from julie kelly

00:26:50.160 the real footage about ray epps incredible incredible there's been a guy waiting for three

00:26:58.560 years for trial incredible back in a moment

00:27:12.080 war room battleground with stephen k bannon okay all the

00:27:17.360 folks over at the house uh it's pretty intense they've now just announced the house republic in

00:27:22.880 respect to hold a political conference meeting tomorrow morning per sources that they're going

00:27:28.400 to talk about hakeem jeffries came earlier and uh and uh really threw down on um on mccarthy

00:27:36.640 about they're backing the senate cr right now so there's a lot uh there's a big firestorm going

00:27:43.120 i will tell you the odds that something happens by saturday night at midnight i think are remote

00:27:49.360 so the the beginning of the process of the d uh the d uh financing of the leviathan let's go and

00:27:56.720 play we got matt gates let's go and play matt gates earlier this is what's happening now these amendment

00:28:02.080 process trying to get arms around defense trying to get arms around uh dhs all of it the appropriations

00:28:08.080 process let's go let's go here matt gates thank you madam speaker this congress has authorized 115

00:28:17.600 billion dollars to ukraine my amendment would ensure that this defense appropriations bill

00:28:24.160 sends no more 115 billion dollars is an astonishing amount of money especially when you consider that

00:28:31.520 our nation sits atop a 33 trillion dollar debt and we are facing two trillion dollar annual deficits

00:28:38.320 and it is not as if the 115 billion has brought this conflict any closer to an end in fact the

00:28:46.320 massacres and the killing and the death continue the next statement is so obvious i can't even believe

00:28:52.400 i have to say it out loud it does not make the united states of america stronger to borrow money from

00:28:59.280 china to give it to ukraine i hear a lot of the war hawks in this congress stand up and say well

00:29:05.920 we have to send a message to china by fighting for however long it takes at whatever cost in ukraine 0.99

00:29:12.960 the message we're sending to china is that they are engaged in a leveraged buyout of russia

00:29:18.800 and increasingly of our own country we've got problems here in america with our own borders americans

00:29:25.360 are watching as foreign flags are being erected in the middle of the rio grande river while our nation is being invaded

00:29:33.520 tens of thousands every month and yet we go spend all this money on the border of another country

00:29:40.320 i do not fear broken russian tanks rolling through europe i fear russia's nuclear weapons 0.83

00:29:46.800 and the risk that we could be sleepwalking into a nuclear conflict that could end life as we know it on the planet

00:29:52.720 all for what to live out some neoconservative dream in ukraine give me a break right now a lot of this

00:30:00.640 funding that we've sent for ukraine has been inflationary food and fuel this is these are the

00:30:07.360 markets that have been affected globally because of this crisis madam chair because of the money we are

00:30:14.000 spending the church the chair clerk will designate the amendment amendment number 164 printed in part a of

00:30:20.800 house report number 118-216 offered by miss green of georgia pursuant to house resolution 723 the

00:30:28.720 gentleman woman from georgia miss green and a member opposed each will control five minutes the chair

00:30:34.480 recognizes the gentleman woman from georgia thank you madam chair today i'd like to introduce an amendment 1.00

00:30:40.080 that uses the holman rule to slash the secretary of defense lloyd austin's salary to no more than a

00:30:47.200 dollar and a dollar is too much money let's talk about the job description of the secretary of

00:30:53.920 defense that role oversees the defense department and acts as the principal defense policy maker and

00:31:01.120 advisor to the president of the united states the department of defense's mission statement states

00:31:06.480 that with our military tracing its roots back to pre-revolutionary times the department has grown and

00:31:13.200 evolved with our nation our mission is to provide the military forces needed to deter war and ensure

00:31:21.200 our nation's security secretary austin has not fulfilled his job duties as a matter of fact he's

00:31:28.320 destroying our military during secretary austin's tenure military recruitment has reached crisis levels

00:31:34.560 of low recruitment the numbers show that the army expects to fall 15 000 recruits short of its annual

00:31:41.440 recruiting goal this year the navy is expecting to be short 10 000 recruits the air force is down

00:31:48.640 another 3 000 this cannot stand especially with our government funding and fueling a war in ukraine that

00:31:57.600 is leading us undoubtedly to world war iii secretary lloyd austin failed america

00:32:04.160 with his withdrawal from afghanistan making american forces leave in retreat

00:32:12.080 this up and i'll be putting it up on getter later on my getter account uh matt gates mtg uh rosendale

00:32:21.040 andy ogles the people you've seen on the show over and over again fire breathers over there right now

00:32:25.840 this appropriations process and the amendments are being uh tightly fought and uh so there'll be more

00:32:32.480 updates i can tell you this they're going to have a conference tomorrow morning they're probably going to

00:32:36.960 vote all night tonight didn't end last night until three o'clock in the morning and uh we're going to

00:32:41.200 be streaming as much of as possible if you're so interested it is i thought quite dramatic even last

00:32:46.640 night and that was the agriculture bill particularly andy biggs andy biggs was magnificent he went up

00:32:52.240 there every time and talked about the financial crisis of the of the country the financial crisis of the

00:32:58.640 the country this is what this is about and this is going to get quite ugly it's already ugly it's

00:33:03.760 going to get uglier but i believe we have more people coming to our side because they understand

00:33:09.840 you you can't hide from this anymore uh a way to get up to speed very quickly go to birchgold.com

00:33:16.400 and make sure you go to the end of the dollar empire the third installment is called the debt

00:33:21.440 trap if you get in and read the debt trap you'll kind of get the nomenclature in the in the process

00:33:26.160 and procedures of what we're talking about today on the show um i talked about the gap between the

00:33:33.040 five train that comes in and the seven train that goes out well it looks like the five train

00:33:37.120 they're not going to hit that number day brett and i did a little bit of math this morning and i think

00:33:42.400 that the number may come in at four and a half train why because the slowing of the economy

00:33:47.280 less uh capitals gains taxes from transactions from mortgages from all of it because the economy is

00:33:52.880 as you can tell and your lived experience is uh is slowing now how do you handle that that's why

00:33:58.080 i think you got to talk to the guys at birchgold go to birchgold.com slash bannon right now you get

00:34:02.080 the end of the dollar empire all free and you can also get some free advice from philipatria those

00:34:07.200 guys as they tell you what's going on in your country with the federal reserve remember in the

00:34:12.240 fourth installment we talk about the um about richard nixon taking this off really the convertibility of

00:34:18.320 the federal reserve notes your dollars into gold that stopped in august of 1971 just over a weekend

00:34:24.720 one of the problems i have with this same problem i have with mchenry and graves and mccarthy where's

00:34:30.240 the financial model that they made this massive deal with biden back in the spring did they not

00:34:35.760 know did they not do perturbations to that model that said hey the economy's slowing maybe we're only

00:34:41.200 gonna get four trillion dollars in revenue maybe we're only get four and a half trillion dollars of

00:34:44.320 revenue if that's the case maybe they only should have done a one-year deal if they knew that we

00:34:50.720 want to see we're demanding to see the financial models just like nixon we see this over the weekend

00:34:55.680 you're kind of shocked there wasn't a lot of perturbations that were run so um all night tonight

00:35:02.320 i'll be up on getter we're gonna have uh after the show we're gonna do uh brahim's interview then

00:35:08.160 it's gonna be some q a with uh grace and mo then we're gonna go to trump's speech royce white later i'll

00:35:13.680 be up and getter putting up stuff all night long they're gonna be working all night in the capitol

00:35:18.000 this thing is coming to a head and i want to i want to warn the audience the numbers 202-225-3121 for

00:35:23.840 the house 202-224-3121 for the senate this fight is just we're just in the opening salvos of this as

00:35:30.720 much as we prepped you for this and talked to you about this and sent you to birch gold to get more

00:35:35.120 information we're just in the opening segment this fight is going to be uh long it's going to be tough

00:35:41.120 it's going to be ongoing because it's a nation and financial crisis if we can't get this right

00:35:46.800 nothing else is going to get right you've got to get this right this is money and power you believe

00:35:50.560 in limited government what you see him doing on the house floor right now is the way you get limited

00:35:54.880 government you must take down leviathan let's go to we got an incredible uh cold open for joe allen

00:36:01.600 some very scary stuff going on in transhumanism let's play the cold open i want to bring joe in 0.84

00:36:06.560 amazon investing up to four billion dollars in startup anthropic as it looks to stake a claim in

00:36:12.560 the ai arms race now anthropic is known as the open ai rival it was co-founded by veterans of that

00:36:18.240 company and it's seen as one of the hottest startups in the space currently today i have the pleasure of

00:36:24.000 speaking with dario amodei who is the ceo of anthropic the models just want to learn you get the

00:36:29.920 obstacles out of their way right you give them good data you give them enough space to operate in

00:36:36.080 um and they want to learn they'll do it they'll do it when you add all this together like your

00:36:41.520 estimate of when we get something kind of human level yeah what does that look like i think in

00:36:46.320 terms of the base technical capability of it kind of sounds like a reasonably generally educated human

00:36:52.640 yeah across the board i think that could be quite close um like that that could happen in you know two

00:36:58.160 or three years like we're building up this snowball of like the models help the models get better and you

00:37:03.360 know do what the humans and and you know can can accelerate what the humans do and eventually it's

00:37:07.680 mostly the models doing the work like you zoom out far enough that's happening but now it's 2030 you've

00:37:13.360 solved all the real problems that everybody can agree on what what happens next what what are we doing

00:37:18.560 with a superhuman god voices of people who have died absolutely adrian amazon believes nothing says

00:37:25.360 i love you like hearing it from your grandmother who may have died 15 years ago while ai can't eliminate that

00:37:31.920 pain of loss it can definitely make their memories last let's take a look on one of the new

00:37:38.560 capabilities we are working on which enables lasting personal relationships alexa can grandma

00:37:46.320 finish reading me the wizard of oz okay you have plenty of courage i am sure answered oz

00:37:54.000 all you need is confidence in yourself as you saw in this experience instead of alexa's voice reading

00:38:02.560 the book it's the kid's grandma's voice one thing that surprised me the most about alexa

00:38:09.600 is the companionship relationship we have with it human attributes of empathy and affect are key for

00:38:16.480 building trust i love the starry night by vincent van gogh this is alexa's new voice coming in 2024

00:38:25.120 amazon going all in on ai to help take its devices to the next level we've been on that journey to

00:38:31.440 create that superhuman assistant for more than a decade now but with generative ai it's now within

00:38:38.080 reach when when i think of like you know why am i why am i scared um few things i think of one is

00:38:44.640 look like i think the thing that's really hard to argue with is like there will be powerful models

00:38:49.600 they will be agentic we're getting towards them if such a model wanted to wreak havoc and destroy

00:38:56.160 humanity or whatever i i think we have basically no ability to stop it at ring we invent stuff like

00:39:03.840 the ring video doorbell ring alarm and so much more but where do we go from here introducing ring always

00:39:11.520 home cam what if we made a camera that can see every angle in your home without having a camera in

00:39:16.960 every room meet amazon one the fast convenient contactless identity service that allows you to

00:39:24.880 enter identify and pay using only your palm

00:39:28.160 so incredibly scary by the way stop giving money to companies that hate you like amazon the jeff

00:39:40.720 bezos washington post they tell you every day what they think of maga what they think of the

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00:39:51.280 reasons public sq is kind of the uh patriots amazon not totally because amazon is essentially at the

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00:40:23.920 people suck and it's time to stop giving your money to people that hate you go to public sq today 0.86

00:40:31.360 public sq.com check it out totally free um also 339 to 93 matt gates we just had that amendment to cut 0.99

00:40:40.320 off all money to ukraine we've given them what 120 billion dollars we want to give them 24 million

00:40:45.840 billion dollars in a supplemental also 300 million in the defense appropriations bill as is 93 patriots

00:40:53.760 voted against and all republicans i believe democrat when the democrat parties lined up against something

00:40:59.120 like that you know it's wrong joe allen uh we had to play this i know it's a tough news cycle to get

00:41:06.960 into with the transhumanism but man what's happening in transhumanism right now could not be scarier

00:41:12.720 why is this shocking with this massive investment in this and i gotta tell you the singularity is

00:41:19.120 hurtling towards us brother you know steve we've talked about artificial general intelligence now for

00:41:26.400 two and a half years and it's been very strange to see how quickly it's moved mainstream you remember

00:41:33.760 uh for the last uh nine months we've kind of kept account how far away are we from the world economic

00:41:40.560 forum meeting in january last january because that was when generative ai really got its major push

00:41:47.520 forward not only to the public consciousness but also of course with massive investment

00:41:53.920 generative ai has rocketed forward it's being used in education it's being used in entertainment

00:42:01.280 the hollywood strike just broke but my understanding is it's a bum deal and artificial intelligence will

00:42:08.800 continue to be used to write scripts uh just with a lot of qualifications uh and of course

00:42:15.840 news broke uh just a couple of days ago that the cia is using a new large language model across all 18

00:42:25.680 agencies actually um intel agencies in the u.s these language models will be used to uh as the cia

00:42:33.760 director said to find needles in a needle field it just means that this ai is enabling massive amounts

00:42:41.760 of data to be scoured and patterns to be found in it it's enabling a surveillance state and as we just

00:42:48.720 heard with amazon's head of ai rohit prasad the desire of companies like amazon of open ai of google

00:43:00.640 with their chat bots the desire is to create an empathic human machine relationship so that people

00:43:08.160 not only trust the machines that they communicate their intimate thoughts over to other human beings

00:43:14.960 but actually come to trust artificial minds at the other end of that artificial minds like gpt from

00:43:22.880 open ai like bard from google like bedrock now from amazon and of course alexa it's a very very strange

00:43:32.880 moment in history to say the least but now on top of it all all of these companies are funding the projects

00:43:40.960 moving towards artificial general intelligence what they believe to be a superhuman computerized mind

00:43:50.480 that will exceed human capacities at all levels you heard there uh that dario amodei the ceo of

00:43:59.200 anthropic just acquired or just invested in four billion dollars from amazon to give them the boost they

00:44:07.200 need to move forward he believes they'll be able to pull off a chat bot that at least can convince people

00:44:13.840 people is uh at an edge at an educated humans level within two to three years even if it's twice that

00:44:21.840 what we're talking about is a bizarre hellscape where human beings have become completely inured to the

00:44:29.280 strangeness of the situation and some portion of the population i would imagine it'll be fairly large

00:44:35.680 comes to communicate with artificial intelligence as if it were another human whether it be through alexa

00:44:42.880 or whether it be through gpt which now has the capability to understand spoken human language

00:44:49.280 and respond in spoken human language whether it be the various chat bots that are being flood that are

00:44:55.760 being rolled out in schools across the country we are at a point now where that human machine relationship

00:45:03.040 and then of course with the introduction more and more of physically invasive technologies even biometric

00:45:09.200 sensors that have now become normalized through smart watches and various other sensors that uh we are

00:45:15.280 moving into a transhuman era and i i would like to say that people uh are are noticing and that they're

00:45:23.040 shocked a lot of people are a lot of our audience are shocked and and i think at this point the the the

00:45:30.000 shock has started to subside they're starting to think well how do i live outside of this how do i move

00:45:34.880 beyond this but uh the vast majority of people in america and across the world steve i think are

00:45:40.480 just uh you know they're shocked for about five minutes and then they just scroll on i think that

00:45:46.880 this because man because because because mankind is asleep modern life is part of modern life is put

00:45:54.640 man asleep man is not awakened man is asleep and that's why they're just going on their business

00:45:59.440 watching the nfl football games doing what they do every day man is asleep they don't understand

00:46:04.720 the purpose of the show is to awaken so that you can work on oneself and your nation and your community

00:46:11.920 joe uh your book goes a long way to awakening people how do people get it this is why we're entering

00:46:18.320 the transhuman era the way you learn about is dark aeon so where do they go where they get it how they get 1.00

00:46:25.360 the rest of your writings since you're the senior editor in charge of all things transhumanist

00:46:31.760 you can find the book anywhere books are sold you can find links on my social media of course and

00:46:36.720 you can find it at the top of joebot.xyz uh you if you are so inclined do use alternative methods you

00:46:46.720 can buy it directly from the publisher skyhorsepublishing.com and uh this book really weaves together

00:46:55.200 not only these deep drives to create a god in silico but also these corporations pouring billions into

00:47:03.280 the projects and of course the intellectuals the minds behind it and the techno religion that they

00:47:09.920 have woven and inserted into the minds of billions of people already we call it transhumanism these people

00:47:18.160 are yeah these people are creeps so we're trying to get you prepared for that um talking about cyber

00:47:25.760 the combination of cyber and artificial intelligence is one of the things that home title locks warning

00:47:30.160 about you think you're uh you think your title was in jeopardy with just cyber the new cyber crimes are

00:47:37.680 combination of cyber with artificial intelligence voice recognition all of it so make sure you go to

00:47:42.480 home title lock.com today okay we got on getter on rumble stick around we got raheem's great

00:47:50.160 interview we got commentary observation the questions with grace and mo then we've got president trump's

00:47:56.400 speech in detroit then we got royce white i'll be up all night putting stuff there's a gunfight

00:48:01.600 metaphorically over on a firefight over in the capital right now about the budget we'll be covering

00:48:07.600 that all night we'll be back there live at 10 o'clock 10 a.m tomorrow morning see them

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