WarRoom Battleground EP 408: House Votes On Israel Aid; Trump Live From Houston Texas
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Summary
In this episode of The War Room, we have a special guest on the show, former Congressman Mike Johnson (R-VA) joins us to talk about his recent trip to Israel. We talk about the Israeli invasion of the southern border, the current situation in the Middle East, and why we have to pay for it.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon it's thursday to november year of our lord 2023 i want to thank you uh for joining
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the uh early evening our early afternoon and evening edition of the war room uh ej and tony
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from heritage is going to join us here momentarily we're going to go through the treasury departments
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uh what the treasury auctions are going to come over the next five months as we warned everyone
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this show months ago it's going to be 1.6 trillion dollars or north and my call is still interest
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expense over 1 trillion dollars in this upcoming fiscal year we're going to walk through the math
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to show you why the uh biden regime has made an incredibly uh big bet they're going to finance
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this short term because i understand financing long term uh they finance it long term right now
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they're going to get jammed we're going to get into all of that in a few minutes want to go to
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oklahoma 2 congressman josh uh brie keen congressman walk me through all that it's confusing to the audience
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we got all these potential funding bills up there you guys just want a huge battle to kind of get
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better control of spending we can't do anything until we secure the southern border really seal
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the southern border now stop the invasion and stop the spending um talk walk us through your thoughts
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on where we stand with ukraine with israel with the israel uh irs package with the bifurcation of
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ukraine and israel uh the southern border all of it walk walk our audience do it yeah i'd be happy to
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first of all thanks for having me on you're giving me brownie points with my in-laws my mother-in-law
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especially they watch your program continuously so shout out to del and lila uh every every
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husband needs help uh you know with with their in-laws and you just helped me so thanks man
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um aim aim aim brother amen um look first let me say this i am excited i think uh you know your
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viewership is excited the american people are excited about mike johnson and in his in his core
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he is a conservative and i want to start there i'm a part of the freedom caucus um so to to have
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someone that you know is not a politician that's healed to the money interest um healed uh to um you
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know persuasion of how's this going to affect fundraising but they're doing it because they
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actually believe in what they're doing i think the american people need to rally behind the speaker
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and pray for him he is a man who is grounded who has a deep rudder of faith and he leads his life
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that way and there's fruit to back up what i just said not just words in in terms of you know so i
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start there to say i'm excited with him talking about israel and saying we've got to pay for it
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we're gonna we're gonna overspend by 1.7 trillion this year i caught your prologue there and that is
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what um this last year the numbers came in at 1.7 trillion steve most people don't realize that congress
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only you do most people don't realize that congress only uh allocates the dollars on annual
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basis uh for the discretionary part of the budget and that's 1.7 trillion the rest of it's entitlement
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spending medicare social security medicaid food stamps we can adjust a you know eligibility but our
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discretionary spend that is the real 12 appropriation bill fight is 1.7 trillion that is our deficit this
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year that means 100 percent half of its defense 100 percent of all we spend to defend this country
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100 of every every person who's watching that you think of of the government you know spend on
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education and grants that you know come to you know states and localities it's all borrowed money
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so i'm excited to have a speaker who's saying not just israel but in his core believes that we got
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to start paying uh right on down the the the row for every element we're losing this country financially
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you guys have fought through on this appropriations a single i mean one of the purposes was a process
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and procedure you can't get to limited government and you can't get the fiscal responsibility until
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you get into the appropriations process and that's what they hate because they want it all to be jammed
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up in omnibus 9 000 pages where the lobbyists are sticking in one prepositional phrase and get paid
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walk me through how do how do you guys all this because this thing we're fighting right now is a
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supplemental it's a hundred billion dollars supplemental broken into various pieces on a 880
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billion dollar defense bill doesn't include intelligence if you add everything up on
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intelligent national security it's a trillion dollars so so just walk me through we know your
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constituents are are practical honest hard-working people that know this can't go on but tell me what
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your philosophy is about how you help combat it well look in terms of um we've got to start
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speaking the truth to one another every bit of the discretionary spending every dollar that we
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appropriate every time that you hear congress is voting on appropriations bill when it adds up to
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that sum total every bit of it's 100 of those dollars are borrowed money from our kids and our grandkids
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that means that they are that we are giving our kids a lessened future a lower standard of living
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and so you know it's so shocking to put an amendment on the floor to cut spending up here
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and and you know you get 80 votes out of 220 republicans or 100 votes out of 220 republicans it shows you
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how many people are actually really serious about solving this this math problem that we have
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and look at their reflection of of the of their constituency and so the american people have to
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understand we are headed towards bankruptcy in fast order and the people that are elected up here are
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a reflection of that ideology we have got to get
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if we don't start buying vegetables we're not going to have a country left so for all of your viewership
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and you know one of the things for the 20 of us that you know fought at the head of the year over
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the speakers race that you know lasted 15 rounds and we've got to have guardrails we've got to have
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things in place we've got to have appropriation bills that you can put amendments go directly to
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the floor and see how people are voting that's what we've that started this process and i would
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challenge everybody start looking at votes start looking at scorecards of reputable conservative
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organizations and and figure out who is talking a good game when they you know everybody's a
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campaign concern and who's actually following suit on their vote and the american people have to build
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pressure on members of congress to start cutting spending if you want to turn around the twelve
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hundred dollars more you're spending every month statistical average in the last two years you're
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spending twelve hundred dollars more a month by the exact same goods and services as you were at the
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head of when joe biden took office that's fifteen thousand over the course of a year it's because
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we've lost twenty percent of our dollar value almost you know in several years inflation caused by
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devaluation of our currency caused because congress is not really serious about cutting spending up here
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on the whole and you've got to start holding these people accountable everybody thinks their
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congressman's the good one right and that's the problem everybody thinks that their congressman's
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the good the good guy you need to check what we all say me included do you think inside the
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conference that that's burchett's going to follow you here and he's been a deficit hawk do you think
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that in the conference because if we don't change the mentality of the conference do you think in the
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conference it's starting to change and you saw that you know we at the debt ceiling you had 70 votes
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the cr you had 90 votes we just had for the you know you had the majority majority for no ukraine
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money coming forward do you think the conference is starting to change i i think so i think that you
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know uh the miraculous ascension of speaker johnson i mean that i want people to hear this as a bible
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believing christian and that's what we have as a as a speaker what you saw was somebody moved from
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seventh place in leadership to number one he went from having like 40 30 less than 40 votes and then
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got the speakership in one day it was miraculous and it's because mike is someone on bended knee
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who's really he understands core principles he understands the 18 enumerated powers he understands
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limited government he understands what george washington said that you know of all the dispositions
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and habits which lead to political prosperity religion and morality are indispensable supports in vain
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would the man claim the tribute of patriotism would labor to subvert those great pillars of human
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happiness there was a time where the majority of members of congress understood the only way you're
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going to maintain limited government is self-governance and the only way you get self-governance
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is religion and morality we've got a chance to turn this country around but we've got to get rid of the
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cultural rot and so for every pastor who watches your show for every person who's watching on the wall
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in their community man you know being quiet on social media may help you and your public image management
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right now but in this fight of good and evil by you remaining to stay quiet it may help you in your
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lifetime but it's going to be a detriment to our kids and our grandkids so mike johnson is a flag
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bearer that we as a country need to rally around and we need to help this inertia that i believe that
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there is a great awakening i think mike's a reflection of that
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when he did the sean hannity interview the first night uh sean you know was asking some questions
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about your belief because you're right it's kind of a seventh in leadership but essentially a back
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bencher uh people didn't know a lot about him and he says look if you want to you're asking my
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question but if you want to know my worldview just read the bible the mainstream media and the left
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they melt full meltdown full complete vapor lock um what what he would have said which the
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revolutionary generation would said of course it's the biblical worldview of course what is what other
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worldview is there you're seeing the attack on him you know he's the thing they fear most which is he's
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a christian nationalist not now you've had you know violent extremists you've had insurrectionists you
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look up the chart the the top the most demonic to the secular humanist the the neo-marxist uh that
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you see on college campus going after jewish kids every day the the pinnacle is the christian
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nationalist how are you members of congress in the conference going to help uh have the back of mike
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john because they're coming from mike johnson hey they're already into all the radio interviews he gave
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we're going through it right now and what he said and here's the thing they've been getting on him
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for he doesn't have any money because he sacrificed his entire life as a lawyer instead of being a big
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wall street lawyer one of these hot shots in the as a lobbyist he dedicated his life to taking on
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and defending religious liberty and and a lot of these church groups uh how's the conference going
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to come together to protect uh mike johnson well look you use the position that you've been given
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and you're going to find out in real short order those who really it's innate to them if they really
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believe in a biblical worldview and they really believe that that is a rock upon which our republic
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um you know finds strong foundation its pillars you better start learning uh the history of our
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founding i i love david barton wall builders ministry because it is pointing so many people
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back to what we're missing and the reason why we've been so blessed as a country financially
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is because of that underpinning and the reason that we see such a demise in the last 40 you know
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most people don't see how quickly this has happened to us we had a one trillion dollar gross national
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debt in 1980 we're going to overspend by 1.7 trillion this year almost twice what it took us 200 years
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of of uh debt accumulation to get to in 1980 the cultural rot has been on on steroids and the the
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fiscal problems are just a down downstream repercussion of that and so if we'll get our moral
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house in order our fiscal house will get in order uh i absolutely am one of those that believes that
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in god we trust and if we'll get the right things right if we'll stop calling evil good and good evil
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then then this nation has a chance to cheat history if we don't then we become like every other
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uh nation in history that uh you know is is rotted itself into oblivion
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congressman how can people find out more about you where they go social media where they go to your site
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to find out more about your thinking yeah um you can go to burkeen b-r-e-c-h burkeen.house.gov you can
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look us up on uh congressman josh burkeen on social media or or uh twitter uh x now and uh honored to
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have uh the opportunity to be with you well uh your uh your in-laws have great taste in uh in compelling
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television so we know they're part of the posse so they're they're they're they're man in the ramparts
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and i know they're big fans of yours and our audiences too we we really appreciate you being
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in the fight and i know that you're going to become a major voice going forward sir so thank
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you very honored to have you here in the war room thank you honored sir god bless you thank you
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burchett congressman burchett of tennessee you see burchett here's here's what i think we got going
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i think you're having a great awakening i think people were i think this mike johnson thing was
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providential and and we're unmasking people you're unmasking i mean the haters on mike johnson
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it is unbelievable this is a god-fearing good christian man solid guy right that's dedicated
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his life to fighting for underdogs and man oh man are they they're upset msnbc cnn they got
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investigative teams going around they got everything they're going to try to tear his wife and himself
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they're going to try to tear him apart it's like a pack of wolves congressman burchett your thoughts
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i agree i i posted this morning when i woke up i'm gonna do this every day i said something about
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him i said oh no we elected a speaker speaker johnson who loves jesus his wife his kids in the constitution
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we are doomed i got a just crossed over 123 000 views on that the vast majority are amen i mean
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everything like oh he's not rich what are we gonna do i mean what the hell steve uh mr no but hang on
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hang on but hang on ho ho hang on read that read that tweet again because i don't make a comment just
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take it to the top and just read it slowly read that tweet okay uh oh no we elected a speaker
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at speaker johnson who loves jesus his wife his kids and the constitution we are doomed
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but but but the punchline is there's a big part of the country and particularly the elites in the
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intelligentsia and the cultural elites that run this country that when you they read that they
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believe the country is doomed because of that your response sir yeah well they're lost they are
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completely lost that's who's running unfortunately i think is running our our major um learning
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institutions both public and private in this country and those are the people that we've
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um entrusted with the future of our children and uh and and the frankly the national media and that's
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why most of them are going out of business that's moving to more of a format like yours where the truth
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is put out there and you bring in cool guests like my buddy josh for king before me um and i i think
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that's that's very telling i think the market is bearing that right now and you've seen papers like my
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newspaper in knoxville it's it's basically just a rag the only time i see is when i'm you know
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somebody's got one down in their dog pen or something um and so it's just it's it's pretty
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obvious to me what's going on in our country and and they're trying to influence influence people and
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they and they try to run us you know people that you know i i don't have any bumper stickers on my
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cars or anything about my religious beliefs but they you know everywhere you turn we're the weak
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ones we're the ones causing the problems in this world and uh i can always hear my daddy saying
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buddy he said there weren't no atheists in those foxholes in the pacific i can guarantee you that
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so um i you know i i we we elected a you're right it was providential um that's a big word for me
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coming from east tennessee but it's uh uh mike johnson is a godsend he's a i said i quite i said
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early on something about him being a goober and all his buddies from law school were calling him
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up saying hey this guy called you a goober but i said you know that's a good thing he's not a um
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he's not a real flashy guy he's a he's a family man and you're not going to worry about him getting
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caught in some somebody's gonna pull something up or what he's doing right now or gonna be doing
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because he's he's one of those guys that holds himself accountable and surrounds him with people
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self and people that hold him accountable and we've got a real leader in this one and i stated
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how do we go ahead i'm sorry but how how do we his uh his um election unanimously coming out of
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nowhere for you know within 24 48 hours but the whole process how do we use that to start to change
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the mentality of the conference rakeen just mentioned it you've mentioned every time you're on here
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i think the people quite frankly are awakened i know in our audience they're talking i mean we're
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going to have ej and tony on here in a minute we're going to go through a very sophisticated
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laying out of the treasury auction which used to be pretty performer our audience is all over these
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are types of things that be on the back pages of the financial times of london or the or the or the
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traders in the in the in on goldman sachs desk or in the pits of chicago would be reading you have
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working class truck drivers housewives middle class people that understand they're getting down to
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and say hey i understand what the fed's doing i understand what the balance sheet's doing here i
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understand what this deficit is the people are awakening how do we use that in johnson's
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being uh raised up right providentially to change the conference and actually become the solidified
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unified body we need because if we can solidify the republican house conference we will change the
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world there's no doubt about it the founders put all the power in the house of representatives outside
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the executive branch and they never looked at the executive branch of being an imperial power which
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has come through the administrative state which we're going to take apart they looked at the
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house as having the power so how do we do that congressman birchett well thank you it's probably
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the most important thing i'll ever say on your show but i i'd ask your your listeners to pray and ask
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god what their role should be in this and their role what i see it is is call your elected officials
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because elected officials like everybody else we want our pizzas in 30 minutes or less and that's
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about our dadgum attention span to be honest with you right now every person who gets on the mic in
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conference and i and i was with matt gates we were sitting in the back and i said i said where where was
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all this you know four or five weeks ago when the eight of us were getting getting our heads kicked in
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and and but it's it starts off with we're in a fiscal downturn we have got to get control of this
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and everybody is talking about it everybody you know people like josh bikini was on before he's
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always talking about it but you're seeing the moderates the people that are in
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biden districts that biden and one talking about we've got to get control so we've got our 30 minutes
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america needs to wake up start calling your congressman and telling them hey stop with the fiscal
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insanity stop with the spending let's get control let's keep going down this road of individual
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spending bills because it's very uncomfortable but it forces us to ask the questions of what's in
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this bill what are we funding where is it coming from and that's why this latest bill um it has an
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offset and it's driving all it's driving them crazy you know you're going to take money from the irs this
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this crazy idea of hiring how many you know a hundred thousand more or whatever new irs agents
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to pray upon innocent americans that don't need it and um and he's going to take the money from that
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and and and and use that in the israel defense instead of just taking it just out of air just
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printing it which is and they're pitching a fit about it they're pitching a complete and total fit
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because there's accountability and it takes away from their bureaucratic base that that that keeps
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a lot of these idiots up here in office and so it's a it's a stroke of genius and man i'm glad we got him
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in there no it's a stroke of genius to do that let me they've got everybody's attention on the
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supplementals but the the the government you know runs out of cash again on what the 17th we're you know
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a week or so away from that you guys continue to pass the appropriations bill they didn't think
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johnson would get what the government operations done he got it done with democrat votes um in a
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bipartisan manner uh the the senate the lord the house of lords refuses even to get down and dirty
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this why don't you guys start talking about a cr and going to january why don't you just call their
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bluff pass the rest of the appropriations bills and said hey mcconnell schumer it's you you guys
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haven't done your job over a year just call their bluff if it's got to shut down it's got to shut down
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what were the folks in east tennessee tell you about that they'll tell me that if we got to shut
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it down for three days that's a lot better you know these single moms out here these guys out here
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digging ditches for a living that don't have time for all this nonsense working 12 14 hours a day
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trying to keep shoes on their kids and trying to keep food in the refrigerator because inflation's
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gone through the roof they can't afford gas in their gas tank they're saying those exact same
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things they're saying cut the spending get this economy back under control and get us back on a
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fiscal on on the the fiscal path because if we don't they're they're also saying you know if we
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if we collapse this economy it's going to be a hell of a lot worse than three days of a shutdown
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i can assure you because those those lines you'll you'll see people in line in line for bread when the
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when the dollar is depreciated in value to the point of just not being worth the paper it's printed on
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what what you know ej and tony's going to join us and one of the things i keep telling folks is that
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this 1.6 of financing and the it's actually a two trillion dollar deficit they're lying about that
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we know they're lying but even at one seven the budget you're talking about it's another one seven
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it's in perpetuity it's one seven it's one seven it's two particularly as economy that adds to the
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debt we're never going to pay off right now on our trajectory we never pay off one penny of the
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principle it's just you're you're barely keeping up and i've said and ej and i have said because
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i've done the math and back envelope i strongly believe that we will pass one trillion dollars
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in interest payments in this current coming fiscal year it's going to be damn close i was right on
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the two trillion dollar deficit when they lied about it i think they're gonna pay a trillion dollars
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here's the point we're now in the system of large numbers this thing is this thing has a life of its
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own do people in the conference understand that that this should be like emergency measures we
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can't we can't conduct business as we've conducted it before you guys were the voice in the wilderness
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and and you they try to destroy you folks and now you're saying a lot of them come to the mic behind
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they got old-time religion do they understand the tough actions that have to come because this is a
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crisis i i think they do but again they'll move on to the next shiny object if the american public
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doesn't start lighting up the phones and letting them know and say in fact we are in fact watching
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this and and that's the trouble in the past nobody you believe too much about what we send to you
00:24:00.040
in our in our memos and our videos and things you need to start asking the dadgum questions that's why
00:24:05.620
when i come off the floor a lot of times just on mundane votes i explain about what's going on and
00:24:11.140
what it affects you down the line and people really respond to that in a positive manner because
00:24:16.580
they're not getting that from the mainstream media the mainstream media is telling us we're
00:24:20.820
look at all the things they've taken from you that's what they'll try to tell you and hell they
00:24:25.280
don't you know life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that's all you're that's all you're
00:24:29.460
guaranteed and it just the pursuit of happiness you're not guaranteed happiness so i i think we need
00:24:35.360
to get back to the basics and you're exactly right and but if people don't don't light up the phone
00:24:39.940
lines of their elected officials we're going to miss this moment mr bannon and then we'll be back
00:24:44.200
right back to the to the big spending republicans that that that uh that we've become unfortunately
00:24:50.340
uh congressman how do people get to all your social media because you come in hot a little bit on uh
00:24:58.100
on twitter uh but i also want to know where to go to your site so people find out more about you
00:25:02.360
now now as you become a big media star every time i cut on cnn or msmc i said there's birchett man look
00:25:06.860
at that guy he's i don't know i'm very big star of cnn i don't know yeah i told him i'm conservative
00:25:13.020
i'm just not bitter about it so somehow they uh hey at tim birch that that's that's where i light
00:25:20.020
it up mr bannon and i can't thank you enough every time i get the bannon bump and i'm i won't i'm not
00:25:25.580
going to talk about fundraising or anything because that'd be inappropriate in this building but it
00:25:29.540
but uh i can always tell when i've been on your show and i tell you what man you're speaking
00:25:35.280
the working man's language out there folks all over tennessee uh watch you and they love this show
00:25:42.160
they love you and the reason they love you is just because you put the truth out there
00:25:45.440
and dadgummit they're hungry for it because we're sure as hell aren't getting it out of major media
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sorry for my language i got to put another dollar in the swear jar um the title the title of my
00:25:55.960
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00:26:02.640
thank you it's always a pleasure congress and birchett thank you thank you so much for
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spending time with us appreciate it gosh it's my pleasure you got it right you'd
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you got it right there from oklahoma and tennessee we need you at the ramparts and you're awakened now
00:26:17.980
you you you understand this in a more sophisticated way than the folks on uh forget capitol hill i'm
00:26:22.760
talking about wall street that it can't continue and somebody's got to make some tough calls
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and you're you're essentially the adults in the room always remember that with all the stuff you see
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on tv and just watch it now you can watch it with some discernment say hey that's nonsense that's
00:26:36.460
spin that that's not true they they're avoiding the main issue this is what they never wanted to have
00:26:41.660
happen an enlightened awakened empowered working class and middle class never wanted it to happen
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first of all they lie and they say we're going to pay for the israeli aid bill
00:32:01.860
by cutting from the irs but it'll balance each other out what tell me in fact what does it do
00:32:09.160
well joe you kind of stole my thunder and i think you could probably come over here and do this as
00:32:13.300
well as i could at this point because i've heard you talk about this but let's just go back and
00:32:17.700
explain how the tax system works or doesn't work and then we'll get to the impact on the budget so
00:32:22.960
the irs collects 2.8 trillion dollars a year roughly in taxes but besides that they also collect 68 billion
00:32:30.680
from what they call enforcement we would think of as audits but they've calculated in a study they've
00:32:36.320
done that there's another 428 billion dollars out there of taxes that don't get paid you can call
00:32:42.740
it tax avoidance you can call it tax evasion whatever you want people who don't report all
00:32:47.940
their income but guess who it is who doesn't report all their income uh in particularly large amounts
00:32:53.580
it's the wealthy so if you look over here by this is by income lowest income highest income folks
00:32:59.520
and what percent of their income they don't report but down here in the bottom 50 percent
00:33:05.860
there's pretty much a high level of tax compliance when you get over here to the top five percent
00:33:11.780
and the top one percent it's a different picture you're talking about people who are not reporting
00:33:16.920
over 20 percent of their income to the irs by various means of how they fill out their tax returns and
00:33:23.720
these are folks who make over six hundred thousand dollars a year here so there's there is a lot of
00:33:28.760
money out there for the irs to collect and and and to the one percent also very high you've got billionaires
00:33:35.600
not paying money uh you've got a million you have some of the richest americans not paying uh avoiding
00:33:42.060
taxes and this is exactly who the republicans are trying to protect right steve it's who they're trying to
00:33:47.580
protect yes they're not they're not paying taxes and what the irs is trying to do is essentially
00:33:52.520
allow them to continue to not pay their taxes so steve let me just like going over to the next chart
00:33:57.400
uh because what's so fascinating is that there are a lot of times you put money uh into agencies and uh
00:34:04.400
people complain you don't see a return but as your next chart's going to point out investments in irs
00:34:11.540
enforcement uh welcome back for a second thing i want to make sure you understand this about the israel
00:34:15.700
financing the cutting of the irs they're all saying 14 billion dollars they are all over oh this is
00:34:22.420
just a republican ploy no hey maga wants massive tax increases for billionaires massive because they're
00:34:30.820
all progressive lefties hey they've got us in this mess they should pay for it we're all for it and by
00:34:35.520
the way get the irs agents get them in there but we're offsetting the money to israel and we're going
00:34:40.100
to offset in the irs you're just gonna have to suck on that right and don't give me this investment
00:34:44.000
is going to be 10 times on the dollar this is all morning mika nonsense uh they put out some bad news
00:34:49.500
the other day uh about this rollout of each a you've had a chance to walk through how we're going
00:34:56.300
to finance this mess and i want people to understand this this 1.7 trillion which is actually two but
00:35:01.580
the 1.7 trillion is going to be in perpetuity until we face facts that you heard burkeen and
00:35:09.980
burkeen talk about until we face hard facts it's going to continue on and every year you're going
00:35:13.980
to have this discussion uh the biden regime is making a big bet here a massive bet uh and i want
00:35:21.120
people to understand ej and tony from you what this bet is and how it's going to impact their personal
00:35:26.480
life well steve essentially what the treasury is doing here as as they go on this massive 1.6 trillion
00:35:34.980
you heard that right 1.6 trillion dollar borrowing spree over the next six months is they are hoping
00:35:41.200
that interest rates are going to be coming down and the the reason we know that is because they
00:35:45.980
are essentially shifting debt issuances away from long terms to short terms so in other words instead
00:35:52.120
of issuing 30-year bonds for example they're issuing more uh two-year notes so they are again hoping that
00:35:59.600
they can refinance this debt in a couple of years at lower interest rates but if that doesn't happen
00:36:06.840
if the rates don't come down then the interest costs on the debt are not going to come down in fact
00:36:11.900
they're going to continue rising and frankly there's very little indication that we are going to see
00:36:17.120
significant reductions in interest rates absent a serious rise in inflation we simply just can't see
00:36:24.000
rates go lower right now when there is such an incredible demand for loanable funds because the
00:36:29.520
treasury as as we've discussed before steve they're just simply sucking all of the air out of the room
00:36:34.580
right now by borrowing literally trillions of dollars a year but but if you go down range you say let's
00:36:43.820
say you say two year notes in two years another year from now we got to sell another 1.6 trillion
00:36:51.780
because that's what's going to be minimum minimum i think it's gonna be two but 1.6 trillion you got
00:36:57.180
to sell another and say half of that is in short in two-year notes that's 800 billion almost a trillion
00:37:04.320
dollars of another two year and then for the second year you've got to go out you're going to sell
00:37:10.060
another trillion dollars the law of large numbers starts to overwhelm you it's so big it's spinning out
00:37:16.860
of control they can't fight where are they going to find buyers for this where's the appetite out
00:37:21.640
there in the world for for this these these bonds and these notes well steve that's exact i'm so glad
00:37:29.800
you brought this up this is exactly why i am genuinely getting scared for our country and for
00:37:34.940
the american people and why i have to echo what your previous guests were saying about the incredible
00:37:40.380
urgent need to get in contact with your representatives and tell them to slash the budget
00:37:46.620
anywhere and everywhere there is there are no sacred cows anymore okay it is imperative that we
00:37:53.440
get this thing under control pronto i can't emphasize enough how fast this is spinning out of control who is
00:38:00.480
buying our debt foreign countries aren't buying it anymore most countries around the globe are selling
00:38:05.380
our debt whether that's japan or china russia's already sold all of it off who is buying the debt
00:38:11.280
domestically the federal reserve isn't anymore they are selling off their debt holdings as well
00:38:16.160
that leaves it to the american people and every dollar that we continue to lend to the government
00:38:20.660
is a dollar that can't be lent to businesses and to consumers which means you are essentially
00:38:25.940
transferring money out of the hands of private enterprise which will grow the economy and putting
00:38:31.020
it in the hands of government which will shrink the economy and and this is also the scam
00:38:36.520
because of this show there's no longer they're just not sheeps that are going to go be sheared
00:38:41.720
the old pitch that home will put you in government bonds because that's a risk-free investment you're
00:38:48.220
getting lower interest or whatever because it's risk-free and the old 60-40 you know the old 60-40
00:38:53.760
split i got the wall street journal right from it your investment strategy is broken the wall street
00:38:58.760
journal finally caught up and this is about three weeks ago finally caught up to the to the war room
00:39:02.320
uh the sub headline correlation of returns with s&p and long-term treasury bonds price of stocks and
00:39:08.340
bonds move in opposite directions the sub headline is the old 60-40 is completely broken that asset
00:39:15.740
allocation of 60 stocks 40 bonds the the reason is if rates go up your bond principle goes down you
00:39:24.740
can't it's not it's not trading at face amount that's why you got to call a lot of people i know have
00:39:29.040
called their portfolio manager and said hey if you had to mark to market today that bond portfolio
00:39:33.940
where is it oh it's 50 cents on the dollar the american public's becoming awakened this because
00:39:38.620
it's kind of a they kind of got caught into a sucker's play my point is this paper is only movable
00:39:46.240
if people are searching for yield and need yield right and and and that's why they're gonna have to
00:39:52.900
jack rates up that's why the fed itself used to be everybody oh pal held on pal oh pal but now
00:39:58.920
you're actually getting a critical mass of of this 33 trillion that's being financed at higher
00:40:06.680
interest rates that's just going to lock in it's going to be very tough to change interest rates
00:40:11.100
and bring them down other than the bottom falling out of economy which looks like is one of the things
00:40:16.920
they're planning on ej and tony absolutely steve you know we continue to see economic indicators moving
00:40:24.980
in the wrong direction and every time treasury keeps stepping its foot keep putting its foot on
00:40:30.640
the gas here and sending us in the wrong direction faster and faster all of those indicators it's no
00:40:37.140
coincidence continue to point more and more again in the wrong direction and i just don't see how we get
00:40:42.580
out of this without a recession in the first half of of 2024
00:40:46.500
what do you believe that uh wall street's now do they believe that the political class
00:40:55.000
in this country realizes the urgency because this is a crisis now it's no more oh we got to think about
00:41:01.360
the future generations it's this generation right now of what's happening in the lived experience of
00:41:06.640
this audience with credit card interest exploding uh defaults exploding um you know people living
00:41:13.900
paycheck to paycheck and having to gap that with a with a credit card that they really can't afford
00:41:18.400
uh do you think wall street the the the titans of of wall street and the capital markets believe
00:41:23.960
that the political class really gets what this crisis is and what action has to be taken
00:41:28.560
steve i think a small percentage of the older generation do because they can they can recall for example
00:41:36.400
the late 70s the early 80s in their working careers but one of the problems among uh the the younger
00:41:42.660
people on wall street right now is the fact that their entire working lives they have seen essentially
00:41:48.660
zero interest rates and so they have gotten used to that reality and they have forgotten that there
00:41:53.740
was a time before that and that five percent rates are essentially a historical norm and so they're
00:41:59.680
not entirely sure how to adapt to this yet and and because of that it hasn't really dawned on them
00:42:05.640
just how much of a crisis this is and the fact that we are moving very rapidly towards a credit event
00:42:11.480
oh he went there he used the term when you say credit event brother to find i want everybody to write
00:42:23.200
that down in the notebook that follows along at home number two pencil out write it down credit event
00:42:29.140
when you say credit event which when you say that on wall street to financiers it shakes them to the
00:42:36.640
core of their being when you say it seems like a harmless term like credit event what do you mean sir
00:42:42.280
well steve we have to understand just how incredibly linked the financial world is and so when you when
00:42:50.300
you observe something like commercial real estate which is in a tremendous amount of trouble right now
00:42:54.920
and you have a lot of owners of commercial real estate who are going to have difficulty refinancing
00:42:59.300
their debt because not only have interest rates gone up so much but their occupants occupancy rates
00:43:04.060
are just so so low and so they have less revenue and it's going to cost them more to service the debt
00:43:09.660
they have on their buildings that's a recipe for disaster but then combine that with the fact that
00:43:14.320
who actually owns a disproportionate amount of commercial real estate debt it's not the big banks it's the
00:43:20.400
regional banks which are already in trouble because they got on the wrong side of the interest rate
00:43:24.820
trade so they have a very a very large portion relatively speaking of their balance sheets devoted
00:43:30.380
to commercial real estate balance sheets which are already for some of them mark to market underwater
00:43:35.820
you start combining all these things and you realize that the whole financial system is on incredibly
00:43:40.860
shaky ground and although some of the big banks may seem safe their health largely depends on the
00:43:46.880
health of the broader banking system and so this is where you get into the problem of a single domino
00:43:52.440
being able to knock down a whole lot more if you um in thinking through because you've done the best in
00:44:01.120
thinking downrange on this what would you advise people to look at to see how serious they are on the cr
00:44:06.360
on the supplemental on on on on the budget you know the appropriation had been done because up there
00:44:11.620
on capitol hill the republicans people like that are acting like they're living in another reality
00:44:15.980
what would you tell people in this audience if you're smart this is what you should be looking for
00:44:20.660
in terms of what what political outcomes are are we expecting is that what you mean steve
00:44:26.960
yeah yeah yeah what what what what did you see if if this is going to get sorted what would you
00:44:32.460
think would be smart to see on capitol hill to know that they're serious versus just optics and happy
00:44:37.540
talk oh uh not merely a reduction in the increase in spending not merely holding spend spending
00:44:45.860
at the same levels they were uh in september the end of the last fiscal year but a cut from that
00:44:51.640
level because we have to come to grips with the fact that where spending was at the end of last year
00:44:56.880
and therefore where it is right now is not sustainable we have to get the spending down it's not good
00:45:02.780
enough anymore to slow the rate of increase because even if we just hold spending levels steady
00:45:07.920
we are going to continue to spend more than we have and we are going to continue to get further
00:45:12.780
and further down that financial doom loop there is only one way out of this and that's to reduce
00:45:18.100
spending uh ej and tony where do they go for your uh for your social media you're putting stuff up on
00:45:25.240
twitter all the time where do they go for all of it best place to find me is going to be on twitter
00:45:30.160
or x whatever we call it now and the handle there is at real ej and tony
00:45:34.600
ej thank you so much appreciate it thank you for having me we're gonna spend a lot of time with
00:45:42.100
these bills up uh remember they're bifurcating ukraine from israel which the senate doesn't
00:45:48.360
look the senate wants to pass 106 billion dollars on top of on top of the 880 billion dollars
00:45:56.600
going to be approved the trillion dollars basically for defense and national security they're not
00:45:59.980
living in the real world you're living in the real world once again i want to re-emphasize that you
00:46:06.580
are the um the center of discernment you're the center of gravity of reality here to save this country
00:46:14.280
and the two things rapidly uh approaching us is the financial crisis of epic proportions and an
00:46:21.220
invasion of the southern border and the solutions for that are not easy they're not simple in many
00:46:26.200
cases they're not pleasant because these are crises have been driven by the elites for many many
00:46:32.300
decades and now we're here and you've got to be the one to stand in the breach and say we're not
00:46:39.600
going to do this anymore and we're going to take uh active solutions not just slowing down the rate of
00:46:45.980
increase not just staying steady not just even cuts but even going back to like pre-covid numbers
00:46:52.120
and starting to cut from there we have to have massive cuts this is a speech i just gave in
00:46:56.700
pinehurst two things that are happening we have to have massive cuts in discretionary spending
00:47:01.400
one to get close to balancing the budget but two to then be able to convince the american
00:47:05.700
people were serious about this that then you can get into the entitlements but you have to show
00:47:10.540
that you're going to take on the discretionary spending first and remember all those people
00:47:14.480
are getting that the spending all things it's theirs by birthright that they that's theirs it's
00:47:20.820
absolutely 100 theirs that you're taking it away from them that fight's going to be enormous look
00:47:26.560
what's happening these college campuses right now you don't think this is why we had yoram
00:47:31.160
hazani on this morning the connective tissue is that they think you're the colonizer they think
00:47:36.080
you're the oppressor and that is their money they they don't believe you actually have a country you
00:47:40.900
don't deserve a country this is not you just stole it so you don't have any rights to protect it no
00:47:45.700
sovereignty no territorial integrity no self-determination of the american no this is why
00:47:51.040
you know we've got uh oscar blue ramirez down in in from darien gap to tapachula and north
00:47:56.560
with hundreds of thousands of more invaders coming every month with todd bensman says hey it's gonna
00:48:02.580
be 500 000 minimum on top of the eight to ten million they're already here just on biden's watch
00:48:06.720
that's not the 40 or 50 million monica crowley's talking about or brian kennedy are talking about
00:48:12.900
so this is the crisis this is the fight and we're we're we are honored to be at the vanguard of
00:48:18.680
this and when they call us minoritarian vanguardism yes it's 100 correct remembering the revolution
00:48:25.140
at the best day only a third of the people were fighting for it a third of the people were kind
00:48:29.980
of tories we're fighting again it or not supporting it and then you had a third kind of in the middle
00:48:34.380
like you have in anything i'm i'm gonna wait and see who wins this thing and then i'll be on their
00:48:37.940
side i'll grab a flag and jump out in front of that parade and you see that happening all the time on
00:48:42.340
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00:48:46.520
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00:49:48.000
the constituents you out there in the audience have have the pitchforks to the back that you got to
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focus on this and so that's why you got to go to go to birchgold.com and then talk to philip patrick
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and think look gold's been a hedge against turbulence for 5 000 years find out why the first
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question you got to find out why and then connect it to the turbian times you have and think about
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hey how do i add this to as an asset class to my portfolio how do i do that what's a smart way to do
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that and that's what the birchgold guys are there to do so we try to lay it out soup to nuts what the
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issues are what the crisis is and then those guys walk you through how uh how you can um you can uh if
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not benefit from at least you know get it anchored to windward here um also the home title lot guys the
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same thing this is with the the you know with the cyber criminals out there the potential for
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somebody to come and get your uh somebody to come and potentially you know take out a second mortgage
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these hard money lenders and i keep saying this once it happens the the issues you're going to go
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through mainly not paying back not paying back the loan is going to be very difficult that's why this
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thing's so crucial and that's why you should go and immerse yourself in content there okay we got a lot
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to go through in the next couple days you got a man the ramparts we put together a app bill blaster
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that you can get on apple or go to grace and mo on the uh on the live stream and talk to them about
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it it's to give you more operating leverage uh you are the drivers in this when you say it's
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providential mike johnson's providential yes but god only works the human agency that was your agency
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you've done this you've done it and you've done it in an incredible way uh and that's why we're
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going to be hammering these topics remember the speech i gave was that you're going to you have
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to have massive cuts to discretionary spend at the same time you have to not just seal the border you
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have to start the deportation of what will probably be i don't know 12 14 15 million people big as well
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i don't know the seventh or eighth state in the union and it didn't happen by chance it happened by
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design it happened by design and that's what you're up against but we're winning and they know
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we're winning that's where they're coming after you even harder than they've ever that's where
00:51:57.540
they come after mike johnson they're going to tear him apart they're going to tear him apart like
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they're trying to tear trump apart last thing make sure at jace medical they this is another one box
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check uh this team dr rallin and the team took uh rosemary gibson's book and turn it into an action
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and what you ought to do is go to the site right now jace medical.com just to check and say hey is
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this right for me i don't want to be caught in an emergency i want to make sure i've got my
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appropriate medicines how did these guys help me out because remember the chinese commerce part is
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going to use every bit of leverage they probably got in this war and unrestricted warfare and now
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we're sliding into the kinetic part okay i'll be up on getter all evening we got a lot going on
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uh tomorrow be back at 10 o'clock show is going to be on fire big saturday show i think we're doing
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a special a part of it's going to be a special you're going to love uh we'll be live doing that uh
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and if we can pull it off we'll announce it tomorrow but we'll see you back here at 10 o'clock
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tomorrow morning check me out and get her uh and remember you're fighting the good fight and you're
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