Bannon's War Room - March 12, 2024


WarRoom Battleground EP 491: Motorhome Prophecies


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

184.52638

Word Count

9,983

Sentence Count

14

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

In the first episode of our new podcast, we take a deep dive into one of the most controversial cases in American history: the case of a man accused of stealing and destroying millions of dollars worth of classified documents, and why no one has been charged.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 the white house question mr president why did you share classified information with your ghost
00:00:05.900 writer the president i did not share classified information i did not share it i guarantee i did
00:00:12.220 not that's not true is it mr hurd that is inconsistent with the findings based on the
00:00:18.320 evidence in my report yes it's a lie it's just what regular people would say right
00:00:22.240 yeah all right so the next one and all the stuff that was in my home was in filing cabinets
00:00:29.580 that were either locked or able to be locked that wasn't true either was it that was inconsistent
00:00:35.680 with the findings of our investigation another lie people might say right because what you put in
00:00:40.840 your report was among the places mr biden's lawyers found classified documents in the garage was a
00:00:45.340 damaged open box so here's what i'm what i'm understanding right as mr armstrong laid out
00:00:50.460 you find in your report that the elements of a federal criminal violation are met but then you
00:00:55.700 apply this senile cooperator theory that because joe biden cooperated and the elevator doesn't go
00:01:01.780 to the top floor you don't think you get a conviction and i actually think you get to the
00:01:05.640 right answer in that i don't think biden should have been charged don't think trump should have
00:01:08.820 been charged but under like the senile cooperator theory isn't it frustrating that biden continues
00:01:14.880 to go out and lie about the basic facts of the report that lay out a federal criminal violation
00:01:21.160 congressman i need to disagree with at least one thing that you said which is that i found that the
00:01:26.420 all of the elements were met one of the elements of the relevant mishandling statute is the intent
00:01:32.120 element and what my report reflects is my judgment that based on the evidence i would not be able to
00:01:37.080 prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury that that intent element had right but the reason you have
00:01:42.080 that doubt is the is the senile cooperator theory the fact that joe biden is so inept in responding
00:01:48.320 that you can't prove the intent which again i don't quibble with that conclusion but it's frustrating
00:01:53.120 to be like oh well this guy's not getting treated the same way as trump because the elevator's not
00:01:56.940 going to the top floor so we can't prove intent while at the same time biden goes out there at the
00:02:01.300 white house and says well you know he just he just he just blatantly lies and what i'm trying to figure
00:02:06.040 out is whether or not biden's lying because he's still so senile he hasn't read your report or whether
00:02:11.020 it's a little craftier and a little more devious and perhaps a little more intentional than we might
00:02:16.600 otherwise think so i also want to go to this biden pen center like did you did it give concern to you
00:02:22.820 that the biden pen center where all this classified stuff was being mishandled was being floated by
00:02:29.100 foreign governments congressman we were concerned with getting the bottom of all of the classified
00:02:36.020 documents that were recovered during the course of like what bothers me is that the money that was
00:02:41.120 paying for the place where the documents were being inappropriately held it was the chinese and
00:02:46.980 it was other foreign countries that did that play into your analysis did you did you look into the
00:02:52.520 billion dollars in foreign funding sources at the biden center at upenn for example congressman we
00:02:57.740 conducted a thorough impartial and fair investigation and we were very very concerned with getting to the
00:03:04.780 bottom of all the relevant questions relating to the recovered did you look into the fact that the
00:03:09.400 chinese were floating the place where this guy was keeping the documents unsecure yes or no congressman
00:03:14.400 to the extent that we identified evidence that was relevant and significant to our investigation we put
00:03:19.120 it in our report okay well it seemed relevant to me maybe not to you another thing that seemed relevant
00:03:23.420 to me is this ghostwriter right so the ghostwriter purposefully deletes this evidence that seems to be
00:03:31.880 like show culpability of biden's crimes and you don't charge him why did you not charge the ghostwriter
00:03:37.220 with obstructing justice and deleting evidence well for a number of reasons that are laid out in the
00:03:42.620 report but in brief congressman yes uh when we when we interviewed the ghostwriter what he did tell us
00:03:49.100 and i'm trying to get the exact language that one of the things on his mind one of the things he was
00:03:53.380 aware of was that i had been appointed special counsel and was conducting an investigation so so he
00:03:58.180 didn't just so everybody knows the ghostwriter didn't delete the recordings just as a matter of
00:04:03.680 happenstance ghostwriter has recordings of biden making admissions of of crimes he then learns that
00:04:10.360 you've been appointed he then deletes the information that is the evidence and you don't charge him
00:04:16.880 that is reflected in the report and one of the reasons like what does somebody have to do to get
00:04:21.560 charged with obstruction of justice by you if like deleting the evidence of crimes doesn't count
00:04:26.480 what would meet the standard so congressman as we as we uh state in the relevant chapter of the report
00:04:32.480 one of the things that mr swanitzer did not delete was transcripts of the recordings that he had
00:04:37.760 created that included inculpatory evidence relating to mr oh so if you if you destroy some evidence but
00:04:43.320 not other evidence that somehow absolves you of the evidence you destroy like here's what i see
00:04:48.560 swaniger should have been charged wasn't biden and trump should have been treated equally they weren't
00:04:54.500 and that is the double standard that i think a lot of americans are concerned about 231 you said this
00:04:59.620 president biden had strong motivations that's a key word we're getting a motive now president biden had
00:05:06.820 strong motivations to ignore the proper procedures for safeguarding the classified information in his
00:05:13.700 notebooks why did he have strong motivations because you next word because he decided months before
00:05:20.940 leaving office to write a book to write a book that was his motive he knew the rules he broke them
00:05:27.680 because he was writing a book and you further say and he began meeting with the ghost writer
00:05:31.680 while he was still vice president there's the motive mr hur how much did president biden get paid for his book
00:05:39.020 off the top of my head i'm not sure if that information appears in the report sure does there's a dollar
00:05:45.860 amount in there you remember i don't it it may be eight million if eight million dollars joe biden had
00:05:54.220 eight million reasons to break the rules took classified information and shared it with the guy
00:05:59.880 who was writing the book that's why he did he knew the rules but he broke them before eight million
00:06:05.900 dollars in a book advance but you know what wasn't just the money joe biden here's this page 231 very
00:06:13.800 next page joe biden in your report joe biden viewed his notebooks as an irreplaceable contemporaneous
00:06:20.480 record of the most important moments of his vice presidency he'd written this all down for the book
00:06:27.100 for the eight million dollars and the next thing you say in your report is quote such a record
00:06:32.480 would buttress his legacy as a world leader you know what this is it wasn't just the money it wasn't
00:06:39.160 just eight million dollars it was also his ego
00:06:41.560 pride and money is why he knowingly violated the rules
00:06:48.200 the oldest motives in the book pride and money
00:06:52.520 you agree with that mr her you wrote it in your report
00:06:55.940 that language and it does appear in the report and we did identify evidence supporting those uh
00:07:01.560 those assessments you also had another interesting statement in your report you said joe biden
00:07:05.940 i want to make sure i get this right viewed himself as a man of presidential timber remember that
00:07:11.180 statement mr her i believe that does appear in the report at least in the executive summary
00:07:15.540 i think this is interesting because here's the scary part page 200 i said this earlier in my opening
00:07:23.300 statement page 200 joe biden this is a quote joe biden risked serious damage to america's national
00:07:31.040 security when he shared information with his ghost rider shared it with his ghost rider the guy who was
00:07:37.900 helping joe biden get eight million dollars and oh by the way mr her what did that ghost rider
00:07:44.680 do with the information joe biden shared with him on his laptop what did he do after you were named
00:07:50.680 special counsel chairman if you're referring to the audio recordings that mr zwanitzer created
00:07:56.740 of his conversations with exactly what i'm referring to he uh he slid if i remember correctly
00:08:02.740 he slid those files into his uh recycle bin on his computer tried to try to destroy the evidence
00:08:09.680 didn't he correct the very guy who was helping joe biden get the eight million dollars eight million
00:08:14.740 dollars joe biden had used the motive for joe biden to to disclose classified information to retain
00:08:21.300 classified information which he definitely knew was against the law when you get named special
00:08:26.460 counsel what's that guy do he destroys the evidence that's the key takeaway in my mind that's the key
00:08:33.620 takeaway
00:08:34.020 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:08:45.660 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:08:53.420 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
00:08:59.180 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:09:04.260 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:09:08.040 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:09:15.160 stephen k bannon okay tuesday 12 march year of our lord 2024 just a couple of the highlights of course
00:09:23.420 in the previous hour our five o'clock hour went through it in more depth uh but i want to put out
00:09:28.960 there that you're seeing the crumbling of the lawfare case the angle of attack that's where they're going
00:09:34.100 now to the dictatorship that's why raskin and elias have come up with this idea since lawfare's
00:09:39.980 crumbling that they're going to fight for the house to take the majority in the house even if
00:09:45.040 it's by one seat two seats because they've already told us they're they're not going to certify trump's
00:09:50.620 election on january 6 of 2025 they're not going to certify that's them 57 of of democrats who will
00:09:57.060 vote likely vote is 57 according to rasmussen have said we support that so lace them up tight and lace
00:10:06.680 them up high ladies and gentlemen this is going to be a fight every day what is 237 and a wake up i
00:10:12.200 think it's 237 and a wake up it's going to get intense and hard and uh we're going to be more
00:10:18.320 relentless remember it's uh it's going to be last man or woman standing on this one you see today
00:10:24.180 explosive uh testimony uh great questioning started off a little slow but uh but got into it of course the
00:10:30.020 great matt gates there obviously and jim jordan more about that also tomorrow and uh want to thank
00:10:36.140 everybody that helped put the five o'clock hour together so we could drill down even more on this
00:10:39.920 uh i want to shift it up a little bit uh for a second carrie sheffield joins us now the audience
00:10:46.700 you know carrie as a as a one of the fighters always the tip of the spear has been out there on these
00:10:51.300 issues particularly uh men and women's sports other issues about women but she's a fighter across the
00:10:57.280 board i've known her for a long time but uh and carrie maybe we get into this talk about mental health
00:11:02.720 and you're you're about biden's state of the union and and the mental health issues out there and then
00:11:07.900 i want to get into this new i guess autobiography or memoir of yours uh motorhome prophecies which i've
00:11:14.920 known you for a long time but i didn't know any of this just say to say the least to say i was shocked
00:11:20.560 is an understatement um talk to me about mental health because earlier today in the morning show i talked
00:11:27.840 about you know ralph reed has got this huge effort 62 million dollars to go out and get uh low engagement
00:11:34.840 um you know low voter participation low information evangelicals and traditional catholics he thinks
00:11:40.640 there's another net eight million votes out there for president trump but also to turn out the tens of
00:11:45.880 millions that are registered and vote on occasions because this is going to be a base plus election on the
00:11:50.600 other hand we talked about how the democrats are looking to win if they can't beat trump head on to win
00:11:56.520 the house and then to not uh certify the election which they're bragging about this is uh uh this is
00:12:02.500 jamie raskin and and others the mark elias's of the world and we noted that taylor this whole fight
00:12:08.240 over tiktok which they had the classified as we talked about earlier in the earlier hour they had
00:12:13.380 the classified hearing today this is a tiktok combined with taylor swift taylor swift is quite obvious
00:12:19.060 her her concerts start stop august 20th they don't pick back up until mid-november it's the biggest gap
00:12:25.760 she's going to have and what has been the biggest most successful music tour in music history
00:12:30.620 um and you know her um low engagement uh low propensity low information of voters combined with
00:12:39.200 tiktok could be a deciding factor here you know she said she wasn't going to get involved in politics
00:12:43.600 she was involved in 22 actually came out made some uh some endorsements said she wasn't going to get
00:12:48.700 involved uh here um uh recently and she was uh and she called out uh i guess in 20 she got she made
00:12:56.180 endorsements in 22 at the last second she came out and on super tuesday she came out and said um and
00:13:02.500 said no excuse me at 22 she was gave endorsement and then at the uh super tuesday she came at the
00:13:07.460 last second and said everybody go vote go get engaged etc so a big issue for them is obviously mental
00:13:13.440 health talk to me about what is your criticism about biden i think they've made it a a pretty
00:13:18.240 big priority at least i see it as a big priority i think i think some of it is overblown you clearly
00:13:23.720 don't so walk me through your your theory of the case here before we get into your memoir
00:13:27.920 oh oh i'm so sorry i'm muted um steve thanks for having me i just want to acknowledge that you said
00:13:41.720 you were shocked so i i'm shocked that i could shock steve bannon um but uh no no no hold it hold
00:13:47.880 it hold it hold it hang on hang on hang on we get into the part the personal part the audience will
00:13:52.160 be shocked so i know it's hard to shock me i was i was gobsmacked i wasn't sure i was gobsmacked i
00:13:58.200 was beyond shocked but we'll get to that in a second tell me what do you know i think i think they've
00:14:02.640 made it a priority of mental health and i think a lot of the mental health is quite frankly overblown i
00:14:08.020 think it's we've treated these some of these kids too softly they're too protected they can't face
00:14:13.940 the real world but you've got a different theory of the case here well i do agree with you that it
00:14:19.740 is overblown but i also know having experienced mental illness in my family which i know we'll get
00:14:25.480 to that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you will the more anxiety you feel the more mentally
00:14:31.660 ill you feel the more it snowballs and so you are the things you're talking about it's you know
00:14:37.600 psyops basically psychological operations uh designed to invoke anxiety designed to within
00:14:44.860 social media and the algorithms for young women for example to create i mean the wall street journal
00:14:50.640 reported how instagram executives knew that instagram was causing mental illness among young girls by
00:14:58.700 feeding them content that encouraged eating disorders body insecurity uh and then online there's a huge
00:15:05.920 problem with bullying among young people and teenagers both young boys and young girls so there is a lot of
00:15:13.520 uh stirring the pot to create this horrible situation where people's mental health is under assault
00:15:19.800 i personally believe it's a form of spiritual warfare and that's where i think you and i would be in
00:15:25.440 alignment in the sense of this is something much deeper than just a partisan fight um that it is really a
00:15:31.600 cultural fight and so i think that the the idea that there is a mental health crisis is true in the
00:15:38.480 sense that you look at for example the suicide rate of gen z women so the young women today college age
00:15:45.920 it's almost double the suicide rate of gen x women when they were college age so something's going on
00:15:53.940 that young women and then also in 2022 which is the most recent data we have from cdc take it however you
00:16:00.960 will um they found that women ages 25 to 34 that's one of the fastest growing demographics of suicide as
00:16:08.460 well so that's prime childbearing years and then the depression rate is the highest it's been since 1941
00:16:14.920 so i think the mental health crisis is real however i do think that in many respects it's actually
00:16:23.180 self-created and it's self-sabotaging by a lot of these really toxic not only online but also just the
00:16:30.320 overall rejection of god and that's something i get into in the book quite a bit about the scientific
00:16:37.780 evidence that belief in god religious participation faith community is strongly associated with
00:16:44.580 suicide prevention less opioid deaths less alcohol addiction deaths there's so much scientific
00:16:51.420 evidence for that and yet this was the kicker the most atheist profession according to harvard among
00:16:58.320 they've surveyed all their professors the two most atheist professorships are biologists and psychologists
00:17:04.760 so it's this toxic combination of the psychiatric and psychological industry is deeply hostile to god
00:17:13.200 which is literally a life-saving force you think that you think the uh the techno feudalism which is
00:17:20.740 this new term of the techno feudalism is driving this because this is one of the fights over tiktok
00:17:25.460 also i mean it's an information warfare weapon but there's all types of analysis and data just like
00:17:31.920 you said the others to show that particularly young women but also young men too but particularly young
00:17:36.540 women are susceptible to all these images and this lifestyle they put out there they get depressed
00:17:42.080 particularly if their parents are not religious or there's not a religious experience in their home
00:17:47.020 uh but what is going to stop this how do we how do we actually thwart this besides the spiritual warfare
00:17:53.180 of making sure that we're nurturing the families and the families are the unit that we we focus on and
00:17:58.720 we're going to have kelly walker join us here in a second and talk about that how do we combat this how do we
00:18:03.460 use policy to actually show these kids that we're standing up for them instead of just you know patting them on the head
00:18:09.800 this is terrible and let's put more money to mental health how do we actually stop them
00:18:13.960 from being abused like this because to me this is child abuse yeah it is and i know there's been some
00:18:20.760 effort in texas and utah and some other states at a policy level to put heavy restrictions on social
00:18:27.640 media use among minors because the first amendment freedom of speech i support that but for children the
00:18:34.280 rules are different for minors the rules are different everything's different when you're a minor
00:18:38.200 versus you're an adult so i think the toxicity of the products being used on young children's brains
00:18:44.760 is is a big problem and i think that's something that can be changed at a policy level and addressed
00:18:49.480 at a policy level i think also and i'm glad your next guest is going to be talking about how to push
00:18:53.960 back at a policy level in the schools because the the school counselors the school psychologists
00:18:59.640 they're they're they're muck deep in this in terms of embracing rejecting god rejecting um uh faith
00:19:08.440 community rejecting purpose and meaning and traditional values traditional families so having
00:19:13.960 counselors and i and i know in texas there's a fight on the ground there where they were trying to
00:19:17.960 allow chaplains to uh be in schools or i think they i think they went a little too far where i think they
00:19:23.400 were trying to replace them all together um but i think having clergy in schools to allow spiritual
00:19:29.560 counseling to children i think that's great um and so i think there are things you can do also in terms
00:19:34.760 of i mean my book i don't know if you want to get into that now or how much time we have but um i've got
00:19:40.120 a copy here and today is actually the launch day so here's here's the cover of motor and prophecies
00:19:43.960 um the the uh there it is right there thank you um the backstory on this with my memoir and the
00:19:52.680 reason i'm so passionate about all these issues of mental health is because unfortunately in my family
00:19:58.200 we've struggled with mental health for decades now my father was raped by a hold on hang yeah yeah
00:20:05.960 hang on a second because i want to tee this up because people know carrie sheffield that comes on
00:20:09.960 the show and out in professional life like you've just presented hard tough boom these are the facts
00:20:15.640 here's how it is i'm a fighter i'm not going to back down uh the story about to tell i i don't
00:20:20.840 understand why you're not an axe murderer because it's one of the most horrific stories i've ever heard
00:20:25.560 so i mean i'm serious when i heard that i said it can't be the carrie sheffield that i know it comes
00:20:29.720 on the show she's the nicest calmest tough fighter you know very classy uh always uh you know
00:20:36.840 appropriate walk through the story of that you're telling the book that is besides all the great
00:20:42.360 things you do on mental health and the stats you put out and come back to religion this is worth the
00:20:47.400 purchase of the book itself walk through your life story oh thanks steve uh well yeah i i like to say
00:20:54.520 all those things you talk about in my political career that's the resume stuff you know similar to
00:20:59.480 yours i worked at goldman sachs you did too i went to harvard you did too i got my master's in the
00:21:04.600 kennedy school you were at the business school those are all the resume things um i also worked
00:21:09.800 at moody's investor service i was a former bond analyst and then doing my political debating going
00:21:16.040 on talk shows i used to host a show here on real america's voice i know i get fan notes even a few
00:21:21.880 years out since leaving um but that's all the resume stuff and this book i like to call it my anti-resume
00:21:29.080 stuff or this shadow resume it's all that stuff that i've been hiding because i just didn't know
00:21:35.400 how to talk about it there was so much shame around the way that i was raised um with my family and so i
00:21:42.520 finally just reached a point where you know what i can't i need to be clean with myself to understand
00:21:49.240 this trauma that i it's intergenerational trauma and you know the bible talks about the sins being
00:21:54.760 passed down from generation to generation that's really what this book is about is about intergenerational
00:21:59.080 trauma and the title is motorhome prophecies because i have seven biological siblings and so
00:22:05.720 the eight kids and my two parents all 10 of us spent a lot of our my childhood and just our childhoods
00:22:12.440 living in a motorhome so 10 people living in a motorhome my mother gave birth to my brother when
00:22:18.760 the family didn't even have a motorhome the family was living in a tent so i've lived in tents i've lived in
00:22:25.080 when i took my act exam we were living in a shed in the ozarks with no running water we had to have it
00:22:30.200 pumped in with a green pipe and the um the experience we also had houses too that was the
00:22:36.280 crazy part is like we would careen between normal existence public schools and then back to the motorhome
00:22:42.520 homeschool so i ended up going to 17 public schools and homeschool and all over the country just very
00:22:49.800 transient and the reason why is because my father's mentally ill it was a combination of
00:22:56.280 extreme musical gifting so i don't know if any of your viewers are familiar with andres segovia he was
00:23:01.480 one of the world's greatest classical guitarists he was knighted by the king of spain he has an
00:23:06.200 asteroid named after him he had 10 honorary doctorates a lifetime grammy achievement award he had selected my
00:23:11.400 father to be one of his musical protégés and so then you also had my father had childhood sexual
00:23:18.040 assault he was raped by a mormon babysitter so my ancestors helped found the mormon church
00:23:23.160 and then you have his interpretation of mormon theology i make a clear distinction between the
00:23:28.760 things my dad did and the official lds church um even though theologically i'm not aligned with the
00:23:34.280 lds church anymore i don't believe it's a cult but i do believe what my father did was a cult so
00:23:39.800 basically my father said um and he was excommunicated from the lds church he said i'm a prophet i will
00:23:46.680 become president someday and in order to fulfill this prophetic call i'm going to play my amazing
00:23:53.400 world-class level guitar music on tree corners and pass out brochures and try to convert them to be mormon
00:23:58.440 um and then as we grew older he assigned each of my you know all eight of us all seven siblings and
00:24:04.920 myself instruments so i grew up playing the violin and the oboe playing classical music on street
00:24:09.960 corners trying to convert people to be mormon and patriotic quotes as well in this brochure so it was
00:24:15.880 pretty wild it was very gypsy um and for a long time i was hostile to god because our dad was physically
00:24:23.560 emotionally um just spiritually abusive he would say we were evil he uh at one point we had to eat grass
00:24:31.080 because we didn't have food um from the city park we boiled it in this little broth with um these
00:24:37.240 little cubes bullion cubes um we were on welfare we were on church welfare from the lds church and it
00:24:44.280 was just so much instability and he said it was all god's will well it was so much stress and trauma that
00:24:49.240 eventually two of my brothers developed schizophrenia and the older of the two groped me and tried to
00:24:54.360 rape me um and it was traumatizing i was 17 and so by the time i was 18 i said to my dad you know i i
00:25:01.160 want to go away to college i don't feel safe here i don't think i don't think you're a prophet um i
00:25:06.680 my loyalty is to the lds prophet not you you're you're a rogue prophet basically is what i said um and
00:25:12.280 he raised his hand to the square and he said i prophesy in the name of jesus you'll be raped and murdered if
00:25:16.120 you leave and to have your own father speak that over you was very damaging for me spiritually and
00:25:24.200 emotionally because eventually it created this really anger toward god um and i think i think
00:25:30.040 what's happened in my life is i see it happening at a macro level within a lot of young people where
00:25:35.320 there is abuse happening in religious settings from pedophilia in the catholic church to you know
00:25:41.400 embezzling money and you know women being sexually abused in other denominations so
00:25:45.880 it's there and so people see that and they're repulsed and so they walk away but i make the
00:25:51.960 case over and over in the book that that's actually not god it's like saying if you hear a really bad
00:25:57.240 symphony being played beethoven's fifth you don't blame beethoven you blame the musicians for how they
00:26:04.120 are interpreting and displaying this genius of beethoven um so anyway the book i get into like i said
00:26:11.080 um how eventually i was able to forgive him and um but it was it was largely through my conversion
00:26:17.640 after 12 years as an agnostic um to the christian faith and through that walk i was able to forgive
00:26:23.960 him release that anger but it was it was very difficult i tell you what carrie hang on for one
00:26:31.080 second we're gonna take a short commercial break we're gonna turn with carrie sheffield absolutely
00:26:34.760 uh motorhome prophecies uh is the title of the book it comes out today we're gonna take a short
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00:31:50.040 the capital markets talk to the pros carrie how did you i know how hard it is to get into harvard
00:31:56.200 it's actually gotten harder harder since i got out how did you go to 17 public schools and get into
00:32:01.640 harvard well it was a lot uh as i said my father disowned me when i said i want to go away to college
00:32:09.640 i'm fifth in the birth order but the first girl and first to leave and i basically had no safety
00:32:16.440 net i had to work my way i worked as a janitor i worked at taco bell and i got five internships
00:32:22.440 by the time i graduated my undergrad and i was basically i had nowhere to go during summer
00:32:27.880 breaks or christmas breaks and so i threw myself into my work and so that's really how i did it was
00:32:32.520 through working really hard and honestly trying to prove my dad wrong he said i prophesy in the name
00:32:37.640 of jesus you'll be raped and murdered if you leave my cult and i said you know what screw that i'm
00:32:42.280 going to work really hard and i'm going to get i'm going to intern for newsweek magazine i'm going to
00:32:45.560 intern for robert novak i'm going to do all these things with my journalism career and i went too far
00:32:51.320 in the sense that i was so angry at him that i i let my anger fuel me for negativity and i repressed a
00:32:57.000 lot but it did also give me that motivation that drive to get into harvard
00:33:00.920 uh carrie where can people go to get all your writings uh social media and where they
00:33:07.320 particularly go to get this book because i know every page will rock you as you read it where they
00:33:12.200 go thanks steve i'm sure i'm carrie sheffield.com again the title here is motorhome prophecies the
00:33:18.920 journey of healing and forgiveness um you can get it wherever you buy your books i love my local
00:33:24.760 independent bookstores so do that um it's also on all the big sellers um barnes and noble and books
00:33:31.320 a million and amazon and wherever wherever the big ones are as well uh carrie thank you so much
00:33:39.960 shocking book but uh well worth the read thank you so much and thank you for fighting for the
00:33:44.520 american family thank you steve carrie sheffield a fighter another fighter kelly walker kelly so you're
00:33:52.920 fighting on this in a different way you're also worried about the family the schools our children
00:33:57.480 all of it tell us about what this fight and this coalition you put together absolutely steve as you
00:34:02.280 know there's been a war on parents and we've seen a lot of that in the school boards what we haven't
00:34:06.760 seen a lot of is what's happened from washington dc on down and what the national school board association
00:34:12.360 did so i've put together a coalition of parenting group leaders some parents constitutional attorneys
00:34:21.000 gosh republic figures and it's based on what the government's done to parents we've had parents
00:34:27.800 like jennifer mahuda in saurita arizona who was put into prison for five days to quote unquote teach
00:34:33.800 her a lesson they handcuffed her her husband and their 16 year old daughter shoved them into police
00:34:38.920 cars and what was her crime her crime was she wanted documentation as to why her her healthy child
00:34:45.560 was quarantined i discovered that i this um national school board association memo which was written on
00:34:53.480 september 29th 2021 precipitated the october 4th merrick garland memo designating parents as domestic
00:35:01.320 terrorists i found foiaed emails that showed that within the nsba they said this was inappropriate
00:35:09.000 uh that communication issues plague the nsba and they had to backpedal on that however parents like
00:35:17.880 me i was sentenced to 100 days in jail pima county stole ten thousand dollars out of our tucson home
00:35:23.720 sale and i discovered in writing a mag an article for george magazine that i was in fact the first parent
00:35:30.280 targeted the only one specifically mentioned and i thought my experience was somewhat unique until i started
00:35:36.760 to see what was happening across the country and i started to have parents tell me their stories
00:35:42.440 and in spite of the fact that mary garland and the nsba had to backtrack and said that this letter 14
00:35:51.400 attorneys general sent a letter after the mary garland memo calling this nsba memo a massive fraud against
00:35:58.520 the american people and while they backtracked on it there are people who've gone to prison they've been
00:36:03.880 fined they've been harassed and this continues and it's all based on a fraudulent supposition
00:36:10.360 a fraudulent premise
00:36:14.920 are you comfortable given your experience at kind of the deck plate levels at the school boards and
00:36:20.120 what you've seen of other people and particularly i know your experience is a little bit arizona centric
00:36:25.160 are you comfortable that at the federal level particularly with this budget that the that there was a hard
00:36:31.000 enough fight to take you out you know russ vote always talks about trying to get the woke and
00:36:34.360 weaponized out of this uh are you comfortable that either doj and that's all coming up on the 22nd the
00:36:41.320 reason i'm teeing this up is that there's still a chance to get another bite of the apple but are you
00:36:45.400 comfortable either at the fbi or the doj or even at department of education that the the house members
00:36:52.360 that are republicans have heard the kind of cry for help of of your coalition and others around the
00:36:58.840 country and take this seriously that this hat at one level has to be confronted at the federal level
00:37:04.200 particularly what's been going on with law enforcement working hand in glove on some of the stuff
00:37:09.480 i am uh lawfare's been waged against parents i'm i'm one of the top because i was the first parent
00:37:15.480 who was exposed to it but i sent uh an email out around july early july to several members of congress
00:37:24.280 and i got a response immediately from several of them including jim jordan's office they put together
00:37:30.280 teams of their staff to look into this and since july i've been giving them information
00:37:35.560 testimonials of other parents details of my situation so they're already working on it
00:37:40.360 they're already investigating it and that's precipitated this meeting which i'm uh very very
00:37:46.760 much looking forward to and paul gosar's chief of staff already said we're going to put this forward
00:37:51.960 for a committee meeting and i spoke to paul gosar at an event that you and i both steve were at new
00:37:57.080 jersey last year and paul gosar expressed deep concern over this he said he wants to hunt down
00:38:02.360 and find the people who've done this to parents so this is something that's unfinished business i know
00:38:08.280 that it's of deep concern to paul gosar andy ogles of tennessee eli crane uh andy andy biggs and uh
00:38:17.400 jim jordan among others and i understand there are other members of congress coming on board with
00:38:22.120 this with deep concern about what's been done to parents and families i mean this has been a nightmare
00:38:26.680 for my family and they've tried to silence me they've uh stolen money that that we needed against
00:38:32.840 the uh arizona homesteading act they had no right to take that money uh it that taking that money prevented
00:38:39.160 me from being able to appeal because we have finite resources but the more they've done to stop me
00:38:45.080 the more i've pressed in on this i've been working on this for years and we've got
00:38:49.000 mom army dad army america's mom moms for liberty it gave us a quote for my george magazine article
00:38:55.560 we've got law enforcement officers who are honest who've seen what's happened one in particular in
00:39:00.360 pima arizona he was asked by john carruth the superintendent of vale schools to profile me and
00:39:06.680 watch me before i ever stepped foot in the the first school board meeting i went to and his office's
00:39:12.680 responses were not was were not the soviet union so this is not only this is grassroots this is
00:39:20.200 parents like jennifer mahuda who've been traumatized by this really didn't want to come forward but
00:39:25.560 we've provided a means uh seek smith from mom army and dad army uh put together a form online form where
00:39:32.440 you can submit your complaints so not only are they concerned about it they've been doing something
00:39:37.480 about it i've talked with eli crane a great deal about this he knows my story of being arrested
00:39:43.000 twice for for speaking out for trying to protect my family and our community
00:39:50.120 do you think that because obviously people like you they're using that as an example to to put fear
00:39:56.040 into everybody else right they want to put fear in them that hey if you step up and try to do it you
00:40:00.440 end up like kelly walker in your situation with the school have have it's has the situation changed at
00:40:06.600 all in other words all the suffering you guys are going through the the economic deprivation all
00:40:11.400 that i understand you're working with congress on one level but do you think it's actually changed
00:40:15.720 at the local level has your fight uh resulted in any change that you're comfortable with or happy with
00:40:23.560 well one of the main things is awareness and people getting alongside that coming alongside this
00:40:28.840 you know i i've even talked to to sam sorbo kevin sorbo others i've gone to a lot of meetings
00:40:34.600 on my own dime flown around the country to raise awareness for this and that that awareness is
00:40:39.480 happening and first and foremost we need to expose these people and what they did we need to reveal
00:40:44.440 the foyer emails that are out there saying exactly what happened that this was a huge mistake it was a
00:40:50.840 fraud against the american people jim jordan said in a an interim report from the subcommittee on the
00:40:58.040 weaponization of the u.s government he said that the letter and subsequent memo had a quote chilling effect
00:41:03.400 on free speech and what that means is that it caused people to be afraid so yes people have seen
00:41:09.240 what they've done to me it's caused them to be afraid but they've also looked at me and this group
00:41:14.120 is using my situation as sort of a case study they've looked at me as a champion for what they're going
00:41:19.080 through because some of them have felt like hey whatever we do nobody cares nobody's going to do anything
00:41:24.040 about this like a a mother and the children's book author being put in county prison for five days
00:41:31.720 i mean she went in courageously but she came out traumatized so yes my family's been through a a
00:41:38.440 great deal harassment lawfare doxing threats to our lives threats to kill my children to rape my wife
00:41:46.040 and and i'm telling you it's very difficult but i am committed to seeing this through because i'm not the
00:41:51.880 only parent and this is still going on under this presumption which has been proven false that
00:41:57.320 somehow parents concerned parents are domestic terrorists it's a huge attack on parents and
00:42:01.880 families and these people from washington dc down to the local level need to be held to account these
00:42:08.920 parents need an apology they need restitution of what they lost the whole premise of this is false
00:42:14.360 so any court cases any convictions need to be overturned because it was based on that chilling effect
00:42:19.160 when you when you say there's been the threats uh you've been doxed threats against your children
00:42:26.120 that's to rape your wife have you turned those over to law enforcement and have they taken any action
00:42:31.320 and if not why not i did and the fbi has been watching me since 2020 i've had i had them in my
00:42:37.160 coffee shop that we used to have in tucson they completely ignored it and yet the fbi has been
00:42:42.520 watching me for four years like i'm some terrorist i mean i have black and white threats to my life i have
00:42:48.440 letters that came in the mail saying i'm gonna tie you up and rape your wife and murder your kids
00:42:53.800 while you watch fbi did nothing nothing and i got convicted for sitting in a chair and speaking
00:43:01.480 and in the trial uh my lawyer asked did mr walker take a threatening step toward you no did he raise
00:43:06.600 his voice no no no no and then the prosecutor gets up and says well do you feel like mr walker could have
00:43:11.160 done that what what kind of injustice is that like parents are being threatened to be killed
00:43:18.920 doxed hate thrown at them business is ruined lives destroyed children you know this graphic shows you
00:43:27.720 that some of the letters that were received by me and other parents and my picture was posted around
00:43:33.000 tucson if not further calling me a nazi pig and a white supremacist uh you've seen toward the top
00:43:39.400 there that theresa cullen and the county health department and the sheriff's officer who did the
00:43:44.280 first false arrest on me for coming to the county board of supervisors they they've been watching us
00:43:50.200 one day we had a van with a bunch of antennas outside our coffee shop i mean it's been absolutely
00:43:55.240 ludicrous and what have i blown the whistle on i've blown the whistle on these covet policies
00:43:59.880 that caused to a demonstrable increase in youth suicide i mean we had people coming to our coffee shop
00:44:05.560 saying you gotta speak out for us because our kids are committing suicide they're creating a
00:44:11.080 two-class society they're forcing masks on kids they're isolating them keeping them out of school
00:44:15.960 and and look among many things i'm a scientist i was working for a national health care publication
00:44:20.520 when the lockdown started and i and i said what was true from the beginning this virus largely doesn't
00:44:27.560 affect kids it doesn't cause mortality except kids who are already very very sick
00:44:31.160 and i went to john carruth and the vale school district and i said hey these parents you know
00:44:37.240 you need to talk to them you need to hear their stories i had a young man send me over instagram
00:44:41.960 a letter that was he was prepared for this april 27 2021 school board meeting which by the way you
00:44:47.400 you covered back at that time and he wanted to explain to the school board how his friend had committed
00:44:53.480 suicide in the very gym where they were holding the later holding the school board meetings he jumped off
00:45:00.600 the bleachers onto his head a young man committed suicide shot himself in the head outside uh our
00:45:06.520 house in our neighborhood he's a trump supporter and we found that kids were targeted politically i mean
00:45:12.840 all of this was there i presented it you can look up the stats and instead of addressing it and sitting
00:45:18.680 down with these parents they demonized all these parents and what john carruth did was go to the
00:45:24.200 national school board association portray these parents as hostile over 200 parents showed up at that april 27th
00:45:30.680 board meeting which which by the way started in our coffee shop the day before a group of parents
00:45:35.000 got together and said we need we need to take this to the school board instead of being listened to
00:45:39.320 they were demonized and this went all the way up to washington dc it's amazing that in my research
00:45:44.920 i've discovered where this all started and we need to go back to that we need to go back to the premise
00:45:50.520 which caused so much suffering and persecution of parents and families and led to suicides i i had people
00:45:57.160 coming in our coffee shop we did uh freedom talk events i i have i created a platform freedom talk
00:46:02.840 dot uh real freedom talk dot com and uh put the camera on people we had a teenage boy who was put
00:46:11.160 on suicide watch because of his treatment as as an outcast and he told his principal hey there's there's
00:46:18.840 no mask mandate i don't have to wear a mask what you're doing is illegal the principal said i don't
00:46:22.760 care so sue me i mean the treatment of these people was subhuman uh kelly where did they go
00:46:30.120 to get all the story where do you give me the site and where people should go to get all the
00:46:33.880 information on you in this coalition that you've put together well most of it you can find it real
00:46:39.160 freedom talk dot com i put some of it out on twitter and instagram and truth and that handles
00:46:45.560 that real freedom talk so real freedom talk dot com has a number of articles that i've written
00:46:52.360 shows where i've interviewed people we're still putting it together we're still working on this
00:46:56.200 coalition we're excited to go to washington dc and speak with a number of congressional teams
00:47:02.600 to bring forward testimonials to bring for the facts and like i said we're using my situation as
00:47:08.520 sort of the bellwether or the the canary in the mine shaft or the case study to show what has
00:47:13.160 happened to parents and believe me it it is it it's devastating but you just keep moving forward
00:47:19.720 and hoping for justice no it's it's incredible this is why they're targeting the family this is the
00:47:25.960 neo-marxist element of it kelly one more time social media where do people go
00:47:31.080 they can go to uh realfreedom.com we have a give send go.com freedom talk if you'd like to donate
00:47:37.960 and then on social media my handle is at real freedom talk
00:47:44.520 kelly thank you for joining us we're going to cover this one closely so thank you for being on
00:47:47.880 here today to kick it off steve thanks for being a fighter and and allowing me to come on today because
00:47:52.840 i'm a fighter too and we got to take back our country thanks brother right there you see it i mean
00:48:00.760 this is also why i think people are so upset about why in this budget process you do have leverage
00:48:05.640 points you you you do have power why have we gone through this entire budget process and hey
00:48:11.560 why is the fbi funded you gotta you gotta you gotta use your leverage you gotta punch hard here
00:48:17.880 the whole weaponization and look jordan these guys did a good job today but it i said he should
00:48:24.120 assign the weaponization committee to somebody else it's such a huge topic we really haven't done we
00:48:29.240 haven't gotten there we gotta be honest and look what's happened to kelly walker and that's just one
00:48:33.960 example throughout the country they have focused like all communist revolutions and posobics knows
00:48:40.280 this he did that great what eight-part series all communist revolutions start with coming after the
00:48:44.840 family and particularly coming after the children to turn the children against the parents it's their
00:48:50.840 it's their oldest playbook and they're going to run it and run and they're running in this country
00:48:54.440 and if you think we're out of the woods yet you're you're sadly mistaken we are not by a long shot
00:48:59.880 there's so many stories like this happening throughout the country and we've had a huge surge
00:49:03.480 and took over a bunch of school boards but they push back and they push back hard so i think this
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