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00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:11.340 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:19.080 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia

00:00:24.800 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:29.940 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:33.700 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:40.820 stephen k bannon mike davis the man tapped to be trump's attorney general if he wins in november

00:00:48.220 and later we'll be speaking to rena shah republican commentator and political strategist who has worked

00:00:54.160 as a senior advisor in congress mike davis thank you very much for joining us um you know let's let's

00:01:02.700 ask you first of all what do you make of the trial and how damaging do you think you'll have heard

00:01:09.940 anthony zurcher there perhaps how damaging could it be to donald trump well first of all i'm not going

00:01:16.400 to be trump's attorney general i've been trolling people and i've made that very clear i would say

00:01:21.420 the fact that this this woman you just had on us did you say that she was a porn star and no i said

00:01:27.900 she was an adult i said she was an adult film star she's a friend of stormy daniels who you will have

00:01:34.180 heard said that she was in the room that night she was uh on the phone that night when stormy daniels

00:01:39.240 called her and donald trump spoke to her so she was commenting on how stormy how the trial was going

00:01:45.520 but i wonder how you think the trial is going well i think it's perfectly uh fitting that a porn star

00:01:51.480 would be on your show and talking about a alleged sexual encounter that was trying that they were

00:01:57.660 trying to arrange in 2006 this is complete and total nonsense this is garbage this is about trying to

00:02:05.680 humiliate president trump and to interfere in the 2024 presidential election this alleged encounter that

00:02:13.880 stormy daniels says happened was in 2006 there was a settlement of a nuisance claim and put in the

00:02:21.800 books in 2017 and somehow that interfered in the election in 2016 with this 2017 accounting and somehow

00:02:31.500 that was a bookkeeping misdemeanor that president trump's accountants booked in his his books as a

00:02:38.480 legal expense and and this is all what's being uh uh debated in court um but you said on fox news two

00:02:46.320 weeks ago that um the court's an illegal clearly there is an illegal unconstitutional gag order here

00:02:53.620 why do you think that's true i mean do you think any defendant should be able to speak out

00:02:58.800 about the judge yeah in the in the united states of america we have something called the constitution

00:03:05.560 and we have the first amendment and the sixth amendment and the 14th amendment and if there's

00:03:10.800 anyone on the planet who should have the constitutional right to speak out against the judge

00:03:16.300 the prosecutor their stabs the witnesses their biases the process it is a criminal defendant going

00:03:24.220 through the criminal process uh you don't gag criminal defendants in america i don't know what

00:03:29.100 you guys do with you in the united kingdom but in america we have constitutional rights and they've

00:03:33.500 turned the constitution on its head by gagging a criminal defendants while this judge whose adult

00:03:40.680 daughter lauren michon is raising millions of dollars off of this case requiring her recusal under new york

00:03:47.080 statute as allowing stormy daniels and michael cohen stormy daniels a porn star who's raising money off

00:03:54.980 this trial on her pen twitter profile on her pen tweet on twitter on x and you have michael cohen

00:04:01.500 who's a disbarred attorney and a convicted perjure raising money on tiktok and now you just had

00:04:07.460 this bimbo porn star say that i think i think calling a bimbo porn star is pretty offensive and i'd like to

00:04:15.120 ask you um what you make of the trial in terms of the possibility that actually in a way that donald trump

00:04:23.680 could benefit you know from his certainly from his base but benefit uh because you might have heard

00:04:29.460 anthony zurcher saying that it is having an impact on the campaign it may not be a negative one

00:04:33.980 you just had a bimbo porn star come out and accuse president trump of trying to have a threesome with

00:04:39.800 stormy daniels this woman is so credible that the prosecutor doesn't want to call her in to be a

00:04:45.520 witness i mean let's just be quite clear let me just ask you a question you think it is totally

00:04:51.220 outlandish that donald trump would ever have a threesome i just want to ask you that totally

00:04:57.180 outlandish would never happen it's not relevant at all to this criminal prosecution and that's the

00:05:03.960 point of stormy daniels's testimony not only is it not relevant under rule 401 of the rules of evidence

00:05:11.240 it is unfairly prejudicial under rule 403 and the fact that this judge has president trump gagged or

00:05:18.660 he can't respond to michael cohen and he can't respond to stormy daniels and this bimbo porn star

00:05:24.900 you just had on who made that malicious smear against president trump he can't respond to that

00:05:30.620 or he goes to jail that just proves what a kangaroo court this is this is democrat lawfare and election

00:05:37.300 interference and frankly the bbc should be ashamed of itself that you just put a bimbo porn star on

00:05:42.640 i think we get i think we get the message i think we get the message about how you're addressing her

00:05:47.000 uh i'm thank you very much what would you call what would you call her i would call her a woman who

00:05:52.800 happens to be either a film star or uh she has a job i don't think you know that you've any

00:05:59.680 she definitely has a job well let's talk to alana because she is still here do you think uh alana

00:06:08.000 david you think that stormy daniels ever regrets speaking out absolutely not in fact i would imagine

00:06:15.880 she was more frustrated that she had to sign a non-disclosure agreement in the first place that

00:06:20.700 stopped her from speaking out in trump's more head than he's ever been more fewer people think

00:06:30.680 january 6th was there any kind of what it was as a an assault on the temple of democracy the

00:06:38.000 constitution i don't know what you want to say it's going the wrong way it's not working

00:06:43.960 everything that we're throwing is spaghetti at a wall and none of it is sticking me included

00:06:52.760 and it's it's hard when you start in your 80th year and you you know like anybody else i have

00:07:02.480 opinion of myself and the opinion i've come to is i don't matter it doesn't matter you can you can

00:07:10.400 prepare you you can be on tv or you can write pieces you can have a youtube channel you can have a podcast

00:07:18.420 and nothing nothing and you know we gotta like try to think of something different because what we're

00:07:31.300 doing is really really not working what we're doing is really really not working it is friday 10

00:07:40.300 may year of lord 2024 thank you for being here for the second hour of our late afternoon early

00:07:46.180 evening edition we got josh hammer josh um i you've got two amazing pieces up in newsweek one about the

00:07:54.440 uniparty the other about us becoming a banana republic i kind of teased your piece today when i had scott

00:08:00.080 besson on one of the smartest guys on capital markets and we talked about what they're doing on

00:08:04.440 the financial side which scott says hey look reminds him of developing countries he said this

00:08:10.640 is banana republic stuff and i teased uh that we're going to have you on a day but i have to have you

00:08:15.780 uh respond to you have the bbc uh the the anchor for the bbc supposedly the most uh prim and proper

00:08:24.560 broadcast throughout the world the kind of the the the uh the lodestone or the uh the the platinum of

00:08:31.600 what you know msnbc and cbs and edward r murray walter cronkite always aspired to and always um

00:08:38.540 informed by and you have a anchor with the question uh isn't uh are you saying that donald trump would

00:08:46.700 never want a threesome and they have a porn star in there and mike davis goes what are you talking

00:08:52.500 about voice delay the anchor goes you keep calling us porn star and davis goes what are you going to

00:08:57.400 call it goes a film star a film star actress brother josh where are we in in this world when

00:09:06.020 bbc is promoting oh that trump on a witness that was not called on something not relevant the bbc in

00:09:12.120 their prime time has on somebody that says that donald trump uh called him for a threesome your

00:09:17.480 thoughts sir you know steve mike davis is a very good friend of mine and i'm also now senior counsel

00:09:23.200 at the article three project so he's not just a friend he's also my colleague and you know i i'm

00:09:27.760 happy that we opened with that interview that he did with the bbc because i mean i i could not have

00:09:32.500 said any better than mike said there i mean what else to call this woman she's a porn star bimbo i mean i

00:09:37.600 mean she is an adult film actress a porn star whatever i mean at some point the words don't matter this is

00:09:42.480 someone who you know back back in the old country you know my jewish ancestors would say that they

00:09:47.780 stood up they stood up for a living on camera like they're literally copulating on camera these are

00:09:52.180 discredited disgraceful people these are blatantly unserious people this is kind of the scum and the

00:09:58.300 filth of society and i mean not to put too fine of a point on it and you're totally right i mean i

00:10:02.900 lived in london for about three to six months or so i actually had a great time there i think it was

00:10:07.080 before all the mass islamic immigration ruined that city i'm kind of scared to go back to it's been

00:10:11.100 15 years i had a great time there i'm not so sure i'd have the same experience today but i remember

00:10:15.100 back when i lived there british people talked a big game about the bbc the bbc is the gold standard

00:10:20.860 there i mean this is and look at this stuff so it's really unbelievable but it does just underscore

00:10:25.640 bringing it back home here how ridiculous the narrative is how ridiculous the plot line in the

00:10:32.420 united states of america and the western world is in the year 2024 steve there are major issues

00:10:38.600 facing the united states of america i don't have to be the one to tell you you cover it every day

00:10:42.900 obviously you have a very informed audience they're well aware of what's going on out there

00:10:46.260 we have regimes all around the world that are doing lots of stuff that are hostile to american

00:10:50.680 interests the southern border is a complete and utter disaster it is artificially suppressing

00:10:56.120 working class wages illegal alien crime is the worst it's ever been we have an unprecedented lawfare

00:11:01.580 crisis we have increasing depression anxiety childlessness decreasing church attendance and

00:11:07.080 godlessness things are not going well and there are a lot of issues out there and the american people

00:11:12.040 deserve something remotely approximating a normal presidential election year where you have two

00:11:18.560 people who can go up there and the challenger to the decrepit debilitating doddering incumbent can get

00:11:24.520 up there and challenge his policies and then get on the campaign trail and rile up the crowd as donald

00:11:29.620 trump is very good at doing and make the argument against the horrific policies of the incumbent that is what

00:11:34.720 the american people deserve they are not getting it because donald trump is physically chained to this

00:11:39.800 dinghy courtroom in downtown new york city four days of the week wednesday is the only weekday that he

00:11:46.440 can get out to actually be on the campaign trail so they're physically depriving the voters of the

00:11:51.320 actual argument that they deserve all in the name of this ridiculous legally incompetent case for at least

00:11:57.160 five different reasons there's a glaring statute of limitations problem here a local prosecutor is

00:12:02.180 trying to bring federal charges on campaign finance violation dubious at best whether he can even do that

00:12:07.000 and then you're bringing in a porn star a convicted felon michael cohen i see i mean i've just had it i

00:12:12.480 mean that's why i just had to write this column i mean this is truly third world sub-saharan africa

00:12:17.680 banana republic stuff okay i'm gonna get to that but i and i loved your first piece too the reason i played

00:12:24.580 the carvel is that and you know we're outgunned we're on streaming services we have podcasts we're on

00:12:29.780 radio but the they they have all the institutions they have all the federal power they've got the

00:12:35.860 uniparty uh they they they have all media all our cultural and yet you hear carvel going it ain't

00:12:44.260 working i mean it ain't right in fact let me show you another one do we have the clip i want to show

00:12:48.360 the polling clip the msnbc meltdown on the cnn poll if we can play that uh for josh right now

00:12:54.380 interesting in this polling was more independent said that they worry about president biden

00:13:00.540 weakening democracy than trump 53 to 42 percent what do you make of this i find it shocking

00:13:07.680 honestly i i can't i can't you know make sense of that number i wish i could i wish i kept some

00:13:13.680 really great insight to it but it i i don't know if it's an outlier or not because the other numbers

00:13:19.440 with independence and biden are going in the right direction so that may be it but also just one

00:13:25.140 thing i wanted to add on to what basil said you know this trial is not on tv you guys do a great job

00:13:30.380 reporting what's happening but if there aren't those images coming out of the courthouse people feel like

00:13:35.500 they know this so they're losing the whole case for democracy that trump is this uh it's a autocrat

00:13:44.300 we're heading to autocracy uh because josh hammer and bannon and all these other media guys are

00:13:49.940 pushing this and and fighting the will of people you see in the polling it's not sticking part of the

00:13:55.660 reason is what mike davis did on bbc mike davis on bbc hit him in the mouth with a full punch he wasn't

00:14:03.060 just going to let the bbc anchor sit there and and frame it their way you when you fight back you get

00:14:10.480 that poll when you fight back you get the meltdown on msnbc when you fight back you got carville who's

00:14:16.980 a very smart guy particularly about politics and retail politics and delivering votes in a full and

00:14:23.040 complete meltdown josh six months before election day but about four and a half months before we

00:14:29.800 actually start voting your thoughts so this poll that we just saw and we watched the msnbc reaction

00:14:35.640 to it it actually takes me back to an event that i did in new york city a few weeks ago so there's an

00:14:39.880 outlet called tangle they do this daily newsletter they try to be a non-partisan across the spectrum

00:14:45.060 thing it's actually very similar to what newsweek opinion was doing when i was the op-ed editor

00:14:49.080 there for three years and we're still doing that today under abadia's leadership as well so anyway

00:14:53.500 so i flew to new york for this tangle event where they wanted one conservative one liberal and one i

00:14:58.640 guess libertarian on stage i was a conservative obviously and the liberal was the washington post

00:15:03.700 columnist by the name of katherine rample i believe was her name and she's up there and you know

00:15:07.900 there's probably about 200 people in the audience or so and she's trying to make the argument that

00:15:11.960 donald trump is a unique threat to democracy basically this poll that we just saw the msnbc

00:15:16.240 reaction to and i turned to her and i said can you answer me one very simple question which of the two

00:15:22.580 major candidates for president right now is literally prosecuting and trying to throw in jail

00:15:29.120 the other guy because it's probably not the one that you think it is and you know she has no answer

00:15:34.820 for that because no one can answer that question you want to talk about democracy steve i mean that

00:15:39.280 was the poll that the msnbc people just just reacted to there one of these guys as we just

00:15:43.940 discussed is taking the political opposition off the campaign trail for the five weekdays of the week

00:15:48.700 in an attempt to throw him in jail before november they tried to remove him from the ballot in this

00:15:53.820 absurd case from colorado that thankfully lost nine to zero at the u.s supreme court hard to get much

00:15:58.860 more anti-democratic than that literally trying to deprive the guy of ballot acts as a former president

00:16:04.660 of the united states for goodness sake but you have to punch back here and jimmy carville to his credit

00:16:09.320 you're totally right he actually is historically one of the more reasonable sane liberals he's not a huge fan

00:16:14.760 of all the woke identity politics stuff the oppressors the press critical race theory any of that

00:16:19.000 so if any if even jimmy carville is is recognizing that there is a problem here that is a golden

00:16:24.920 opportunity for republicans this fall to kind of hit him where it's going to hurt which is you try

00:16:29.300 to make inroads with the democratic coalition you try to peel away more of those millennial gen z voters

00:16:34.700 more of those black voters i mean you really need also need to peel in steve to the remaining white

00:16:40.280 working class voters in the rust belt many of whom actually are still registered democrats it goes back

00:16:45.160 to kind of the 1970s 1980s a lot of them are instinctual trump voters are still registered democrats

00:16:49.840 these are all the various places where republicans i think have a golden opportunity given the horrific

00:16:54.660 policies of this current president joe biden so josh you are um i think one of our leading and i think

00:17:02.000 it's pretty much consensus one of our leading public intellectuals i want to go through both pieces and

00:17:06.120 we can put them individually i want to take the uniparty piece first and then i want to go to the

00:17:10.300 banana republic because i think they're kind of inextricably linked let's take your first piece

00:17:15.180 and walk us through it yeah so tyranny of the uniparty i wrote this essay in response to this

00:17:21.500 long essay that was written by glenn elmers and ted richards they're both claremont institute folks

00:17:27.860 and they took a classic essay that was written probably 40 50 years ago or so which has six

00:17:34.020 factors that identify that you whether or not you are in a totalitarian regime and in this essay glenn and

00:17:40.440 ted basically argued that yes under this classical definition of what it means to be a totalitarian

00:17:45.440 regime america in the year 2024 qualifies and i thought they made a very sound argument so what i was

00:17:50.820 doing was responding to one very specific element of those six elements there which was this notion

00:17:56.580 of a uniparty so one of the classic one of the classic identifying traits of an authoritarian or

00:18:02.560 totalitarian regime is you only have one political party i mean nazi germany is obviously a good example

00:18:07.820 there's plenty of other examples throughout the past 200 years of history and what i basically argued in

00:18:12.940 this essay is that america in the year 2024 whether we realize it or not actually does have only one

00:18:20.460 party which is this idea of a uniparty sure on paper we technically have a democratic party we

00:18:25.360 technically have a republican party but they are two sides of the exact same coin there are two sides of

00:18:31.260 the exact same liberal coin you have left liberals and you have right liberals they're ultimately operating

00:18:36.960 within the same paradigm and to put some teeth on that and to put some concrete terms on it they are both

00:18:41.820 operating in a foreign policy mentality that believes that america has a moralistic need desire

00:18:47.580 and a frankly kind of an indispensable intrinsic desire to go ahead throughout the world is toppling

00:18:54.020 regimes in in the name of global peace freedom it's kind of this bush second inaugural address

00:18:59.180 january 2000-esque mentality that has tangible ramifications for the war in ukraine which i've

00:19:05.160 been a skeptic of basically since the get-go for at least two years now on the domestic front both

00:19:09.760 parties are spending like absolute drunk sailors they have no inclination whatsoever to to trim the

00:19:15.440 sales of the administrative state whatsoever which is an existential threat to individual liberty and

00:19:20.280 constitutional separation of powers they they are all in for for all sorts of horrific causes there

00:19:26.000 and every time that you see someone donald trump being a good example jd vance josh holly folks like

00:19:31.520 this who come from fairly elite backgrounds i mean josh holly and jd vance both went to yale law school

00:19:37.440 donald trump obviously grew up wealthy went to an ivy league school himself when you have people who are

00:19:42.360 class traitors that's the word that i use in the concluding paragraph for that essay when you have

00:19:47.080 people who are class traitors who come from the upper echelons of society whether it is their

00:19:52.200 upbringing or whether it is their institutions their degrees their credentials and then they turn on the

00:19:56.980 ruling class and they come to identify with what the late great angelo codavilla called the country

00:20:02.260 class the people what hillary clinton called the deplorables when you have these class traitors that

00:20:06.940 turn on the ruling class and become a voice a ap and a tribune of the people that is the unique

00:20:12.980 threat and donald trump in many ways obviously is that threat steve that's why they feel such a need

00:20:17.800 to take him out uh then it's absolutely brilliant piece i want to make sure grace mo uh carly bonet over

00:20:25.300 at uh midnight writer if we can uh get an assist from the great carly bonet and the folks over there

00:20:30.300 also elizabeth and our telegram owner push this out everywhere it's a must read as joshua's material

00:20:35.900 is then you pivot and it actually gets even darker in your second piece i think that you talk about us

00:20:42.640 becoming the united states of america becoming a banana republic we talked about a little bit in

00:20:46.980 the morning show about financially how we're definitely doing between the fed and treasury as

00:20:50.940 scott besson said he's seeing things that are only done in developing nations uh walk us through uh this essay

00:20:57.260 sir so the new york city case steve i mean as we heard mike talk about in the bbc there a little bit

00:21:05.260 and you know as i've been talking about you've been talking about this new york city case is just orders

00:21:10.880 of magnitude insane so obviously there's four criminal prosecutions against donald trump they are all

00:21:16.100 legally deficient for for various reasons they are obviously all coming from a grossly politicized

00:21:20.700 election interference vantage point here the new york city case is a particularly extreme example

00:21:27.220 of a case that anyone who has any sense of the law any person who who went to law school and becomes

00:21:34.940 a prosecutor if you have a morsel a morsel of integrity in your bones you would never ever bring

00:21:40.540 this particular suit and in fact alvin bragg who is obviously a george soros funded hack who literally

00:21:46.000 campaigns for office to be the new york county new york district attorney he literally campaigned on a

00:21:50.800 platform of getting trump and prosecuting trump by any means necessary his own predecessor cy vance jr who's a

00:21:56.960 pretty liberal guy himself very much looked into this charge and ultimately said no this is too

00:22:01.460 frivolous i can't justify using prosecutorial resources to do it same thing for the federal

00:22:06.000 prosecutor's office there the sdny the southern district of new york they did the exact same thing

00:22:10.860 alvin bragg has no such compunctions because he's a soros funded hack so okay so their theory of the case

00:22:16.000 is basically that these 130 000 in payments from the trump organization to michael cohen on the eve of the

00:22:22.640 2016 election were incorrectly put in the accounting books in the ledgers of the trump organization's

00:22:29.240 accounting books and whatnot because they call them legal services whether it is a when it should be a

00:22:34.380 campaign finance violation okay so there's multiple problems here one is the fraudulent bookkeeping

00:22:39.240 charge the actual state crime has a two-year statute of limitations now alvin bragg tries to get around

00:22:44.640 this very clear-cut statute of limitations by tacking on this in furtherance of an additional

00:22:49.640 an additional crime that's the federal campaign finance violation thing however he's a local da i

00:22:56.460 mean what gives alvin bragg the right to even tack on a federal crime to begin with especially when the

00:23:01.100 own federal prosecutor's office looked into it and said that they weren't going to do it then that

00:23:05.160 has its own statute of limitations problem as well here but in order to prove this case steve in order

00:23:10.260 to prove this case as even the bill clinton nominated fec federal election commissioner brad smith has

00:23:15.760 explained in order to prove this case in order to prove any campaign finance violation

00:23:19.460 case you have to prove that the sole and exclusive motive for a payment was unambiguously for the

00:23:27.500 sole and exclusive reason of getting that candidate across the finish line in other words in other

00:23:32.620 words if trump and his lawyers can show that there was any other possible motive for this payment that

00:23:38.660 was made from the trump organization to michael cohen any motive whatsoever they win the case because

00:23:43.420 the prosecution has not met anywhere close to its beyond a reasonable doubt burden and you know i can think

00:23:48.880 of any number of other reasons why maybe these payments were made you know perhaps president

00:23:53.000 trump didn't want baron trump to find out maybe he wanted to do it to preserve integrity of his

00:23:57.260 marriage with the first lady melania trump i mean there are so many other reasons why maybe these

00:24:02.420 payments were made in the first place and then obviously kind of the most important point which we

00:24:06.500 discussed a little bit earlier it's just the grand spectacle of it all the fact that the president

00:24:10.920 is in the courtroom four days a week he's not on the campaign trail they're trying to incarcerate

00:24:15.720 the political opposition this unconstitutional gag order the judge is openly threatening to throw him

00:24:21.660 in jail because these thousand dollar fines in his estimation are not having a sufficient deterrent

00:24:26.140 effect trump can't even criticize the daughter of the judge who's raising 90 plus million dollars

00:24:31.080 for her her crappy company authentic campaigns which is just a democratic fundraising consultancy firm

00:24:37.120 he can't trump can't push back against the porn star stormy daniels herself it's just it just stinks to

00:24:43.380 high heaven i don't want it just would you really it's it's pure but now before we go we know you

00:24:48.960 got to bounce question should president trump i've been arguing call the bluff of the judge in the gag

00:24:54.160 order even in means to go to jail would you recommend to trump if you were on the legal team

00:24:58.440 or the political team to press the case on the gag order and get even more up in the court's face sir

00:25:05.480 if i was his lawyer and i i i as a political commentator yes i would love to see that if i was

00:25:12.560 literally his lawyer in the courtroom hard to hard to say but i mean my heart totally agrees with you

00:25:17.480 i'm trying to think about my legal brain as well honestly but he should i mean like he definitely

00:25:21.460 should because he's clearly bluffing there's no way mershawn's gonna do that steve you don't think

00:25:26.520 mershawn is if trump calls his bluff you think he backs down i do i do think that i think i i actually

00:25:32.200 do think he's bluffing on that josh hammer you're one of the smartest guys i know josh how do we get to

00:25:36.840 all your writing not just on uh newsweek but your podcast all of it sir yeah thank you so much as

00:25:42.720 always steve so i'm on x josh underscore hammer instagram josh b hammer i write a weekly syndicated

00:25:48.100 column that goes up in newsweek and a bunch of other right of center websites um i got two of my

00:25:52.680 own shows one is the josh hammer show and then the other which is the more lawfare focus show is

00:25:56.700 america on trial with josh hammer both available everywhere you get your podcasts and keep taking the

00:26:02.260 fight to folks uh like in platforms like tangle we need that we we need it taken to the other side

00:26:07.640 that's how you have carvel meltdown meltdown josh hammer fantastic thank you on a friday

00:26:12.660 early in a friday evening in may okay we're going to pivot in a second we're going to talk about one

00:26:18.980 of my favorite topics ukraine but much much more has been harnwell joins us okay this is a fourth

00:26:25.180 turning what i mean like about that just like the revolution the civil war the great depression and

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00:31:15.520 you see what i mean if lazlo's presence in a cafe can inspire this unfortunate demonstration

00:31:28.740 what more of his presence in casablanca bring on i advise that this place be shut up at once

00:31:33.120 but everybody's having such a good time yes much too good a time the place is to be closed

00:31:37.560 but i have no excuse to close it find one

00:31:40.460 everybody's to leave here immediately this cafe is closed until further notice clear the room at once

00:31:51.500 how can he close me up on what ground i'm shocked shocked to find that gambling is going on in here

00:31:59.880 you're winning sir oh thank you very much everybody out at once

00:32:03.840 okay welcome back a classic scene from one of the great classics casablanca michael curtis

00:32:12.960 one of the greatest uh directors ever hungarian uh ben harnwell why is that appropriate for what

00:32:19.000 we're going to talk about sir steve you know we play that clip so often on the war and we might as

00:32:24.720 well substitute it for the opening credits of the show um steve i prepared to put your shocked face on

00:32:31.920 because there were more stories coming of corruption out of ukraine and it's very topical we're going

00:32:38.060 to come to to a development from a couple of hours to go but let's first dig down on on the we've got

00:32:44.220 a whole stack of corruption stories coming out of ukraine um so first off one of uh president

00:32:50.280 zelensky's members of parliament uh in the servant of the people's party this is a guy called andrei

00:32:56.260 klochko um he's been hauled in before the ukraine special specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's

00:33:03.980 office um because he had uh around 200 um and 70 000 worth of income that he couldn't explain on his

00:33:16.060 parliamentary salary and i know i'm going to recite this now steve because it sounds a little bit like

00:33:21.440 um the the the 12 days of christmas but according to the the the the corruption um office he had

00:33:29.580 five flats in kia of three plots of land two other premises a tesla and a mercedes bend nothing about

00:33:37.260 a partridge in a pear tree but it's almost getting there now the thing about that this that most

00:33:41.820 surprised me was that these developments were tied to another corruption sacking um and this time

00:33:48.860 it's the head of um the cyber security office of the um the sbu ukraine's um cia basically why this

00:33:59.840 is important i'm gonna i'm gonna tie this together it's because it's the intelligence services whose

00:34:04.860 hand is behind a lot of these corruption allegations and this is a director within the um the intelligence

00:34:12.260 now this guy had been dismissed last week um because of uh sort of backhanders being filtered

00:34:19.780 into his wife so basically this is a question that the very people that are being entrusted

00:34:24.760 to tamper down supposedly steve you know this is a shock shock that there's corruption going on here

00:34:31.720 the very people who are being um entrusted to to tamper down on corruption and those people are

00:34:37.720 taking the largest by candace how do we know this because we covered this on the show a couple of

00:34:42.860 weeks ago but it's always worth repeating this anglo-german businessman called arnulf damara who's

00:34:49.300 the 10th largest taxpayer um in ukraine he had an issue where members from and this is the ft the financial

00:34:58.560 times okay and i quote them directly members from zelensky's administration and the country's secret

00:35:06.720 services were filmed by this anglo-german businessman in vienna tapping him um for a proportion of his

00:35:14.660 company to be held in an offshore trust steve how much uh were they hitting him for because we always

00:35:20.780 called president zelensky 10 percent ski right because that's like the standard there is as it is in

00:35:28.260 russia that's like the standard kickback these guys wanted an eye-watering 50 percent now

00:35:34.900 but hang on just for the audience let's not bury the lead i just want to hit rewind for a second and

00:35:42.720 this is why the casablanca uh clip that we play a lot is so important here remember we'll get to in

00:35:51.700 a second they're actually i'm not making this up folks the 61 billion is not good enough they're

00:35:57.460 ramming through another 400 million dollar 400 million dollar uh another supplemental to come

00:36:04.520 like asap let's go back the intelligence mike uh johnson tells us that the reason that they've put

00:36:13.280 this forward so quickly in the 61 billion dollars mtg informs us that although they agree to forensic

00:36:19.840 audits they agreed to audits as you reported ben harnwell i think it's burns the cia director

00:36:26.720 flew to kiev to have a sit down with zelensky and his top guys say the corruption you're stealing with

00:36:35.040 both hands so obvious and so blatant that we're not going to be able to protect you on capitol hill

00:36:40.180 because now everybody and i talked to so many people about these stories it is an open secret in

00:36:46.020 the capital city of the united states about how much money is being stolen by these crop oligarchs

00:36:51.820 it's the intelligence guys that are in there it's the intelligence community that that's in capture or

00:36:58.440 captured little mike johnson polly pockets and has him wetting himself about all the things are going

00:37:04.840 to happen that putin's going to roll across the north german plane into poland that putin's going to go

00:37:09.100 uh into germany that putin is is like the avant was it the von molke plan and world the guns of august he's

00:37:15.600 going to be heading to paris and we're going to have a second verdun right to stop them at the what

00:37:19.880 the marne river all of that it's the intelligence services and not only are they working together

00:37:25.200 they're stealing together ben harnwell i couldn't be better steve not only they're working together

00:37:33.320 they are stealing together that is that is the literal truth of this i just want to follow on

00:37:38.000 because look in a regime this is like in china when someone is sacked for china in china for high

00:37:43.920 normal corruption they have execution for this um in china um and yet the whole regime the whole

00:37:51.700 regime has its hand in the till so what is clearly the case and of course the one belt one road

00:37:57.200 initiative is under a certain perspective just a massive opportunity for institutional grift at the

00:38:04.040 highest level in which everyone is participating so what happens in china when you hear about in the

00:38:09.520 store in the newspapers it occasionally happens that someone's been dragged off they've put in

00:38:13.920 been put in prison or they've been executed for um for corruption it's really because they've fallen

00:38:19.620 out with the regime um and the regime wanted to get rid of them and corruption is obviously a great

00:38:25.880 excuse before their own people to be using because of course it looks as if they're drilling down on it

00:38:30.480 and i would suggest that the same dynamic is taking place in ukraine because they are all you know all of

00:38:36.680 these this herd of pigs has its snout in the trough when you hear for example like yesterday when the

00:38:43.680 when the ukrainian parliament dismissed mikola salisky who was the agriculture minister who couldn't

00:38:50.080 justify about 10 million dollars worth of land acquisition on his ministerial salary when you hear

00:38:57.120 people sort of falling out of grace like this it's really because they've because of internal dynamics

00:39:02.540 and internal power plays just coming back to that we did hit yesterday on the show

00:39:06.700 in the latest the the the ukrainian parliament in a second reading yesterday um approved a bill which

00:39:14.460 has yet to be signed by president salisky where they can draft people convicts in uh in prison to the

00:39:20.840 to the front line i just want to hit this point again because we did hit this yesterday very important

00:39:25.480 here they when they were drafting this bill they put in a carve out specifically exempting whom from

00:39:33.480 the uh immobilization hi you're you're people hold it hornwell's doing this hold it we we covered this

00:39:41.900 yesterday i did want to cover today but folks you got to understand something the way hornwell knows

00:39:46.000 how to troll me better than anybody he knows this will trigger me but go ahead wait for it tell me who

00:39:51.160 the higgs this is hang on this is a group that actually had their two most revered generals

00:39:57.920 cashiered because they talked about the lack of man powers not the lack of weapons at the 500 000

00:40:04.100 troops at about 27 years old they need not 42 years old of course they go through all these

00:40:09.540 perturbations and they're going to draft prisoners they're going to put the poor uh guys that have

00:40:13.900 already lost limbs back to the front everybody because the parents are getting guys out of the country

00:40:17.740 but they have this big thing and what what are the one group that they put in as an exemption as

00:40:23.520 they push this uh they push the new draft through the uh through zelinski's legislature

00:40:29.640 steve i quote i can only quote former high-ranking officials who held important political positions

00:40:38.420 and were convicted of serious corruption that's basically any potential ukrainian cabinet minister or any

00:40:45.800 potential ukrainian member of parliament would fall in that um in that category if they got their hands

00:40:52.080 uh caught in the till so as they're drafting and mobilizing basically everyone else and now they're

00:40:57.200 press-ganging uh people i i i saw something dated three days just on the streets um in in an intimidation

00:41:04.980 effort to try and get them to go to the front line the one category of prisoner but so excuse me

00:41:10.100 there's a second category right there's a serious murderers who've killed more than two people um

00:41:16.880 but the one more than two more than two but the one category that's that's got the carve out here

00:41:24.440 from from the latest mobilization drive are basically parliament uh ukrainian officials

00:41:31.020 absolutely astonishing um and of course i want to hang on hang on but i want to go to something i want

00:41:37.620 to go back because we talk about rational actors like we talk about the invasion of the southern border

00:41:42.500 the rational actors are the people coming across the border because they realize it's a one-time good deal

00:41:48.040 under biden and the cartels which are making more money than than ever the rational actors

00:41:52.820 the most rational actors that are looking reality in the eye and acting upon it are the parents

00:41:59.620 of particularly young ukrainian men it's men and women particularly young ukrainian men

00:42:04.680 that are sitting there going hang on for a second these americans are financing this entirely corrupt

00:42:11.660 regime because those people are patriotic the ukrainian people are very patriotic they love their country

00:42:16.740 right but they understand what's going on now and they see what the grift is and what's happening and

00:42:22.880 they look around and they say because if this is really about defending their country if this is really

00:42:28.640 about ukraine those people being patriotic would have their young sons at the front would have

00:42:34.880 their young sons going into the military they don't the biggest problem they have is the manpower and

00:42:40.680 that's on capitol hill they don't want to talk about why the parents are doing anything possible in

00:42:45.880 fact i think you report the other day the average pay is like 650 bucks to 900 bucks 950 bucks

00:42:51.560 for for an average ukrainian they're paying 5 000 to 10 000 to get them out of the country and to get

00:42:58.300 them to ireland or get them get them to hungary or to get them to poland to get them out of the

00:43:02.500 country and to get them out of the ability of zelinski and these people to basically press gang them

00:43:07.260 and this is because they understand that this is not about the defense of ukraine this is not about

00:43:17.220 their country this is something more and they see the corruption all around them they say hey look

00:43:21.980 if my son has got to go serve his country and die in service of country that's one thing

00:43:27.060 but if they're going to take my son and send him to the front lines to support this to hell with it

00:43:32.620 right i'll go into hock i'll go into bankruptcy i will do whatever it needs to be done to get my boy

00:43:39.120 out of this country ben harnwell well look we're going to talk around neighboring countries in a moment

00:43:45.000 and i i'll queue up denver now um we'll go for the footage on the on the polish farmer

00:43:50.120 protesting them at the moment in a moment because that has a strong ukrainian dynamic in it but the

00:43:55.960 the horror of of what you're saying steve about the parents basically selling the farm as it were

00:44:01.000 to get their their kids their sons out of ukraine and away from the firing line is that the neighboring

00:44:06.240 countries for example lithuania are rounding these kids up and they're going to send them back

00:44:10.560 right and the astonishing thing is and the astonishing thing is we're we're under an invasion

00:44:17.160 capital letters invasion of third world illegals across the european continent for the last six or

00:44:23.480 seven years and you can't send people back to war zones right this is what we've been told we've

00:44:29.620 been hit over the head with this you can't send refugees back to war zones but you can if it will help

00:44:36.960 to stop trump that's that's the cynicism steve the utter evilness of these people because they're

00:44:43.940 going to take these kids you know as you said the parents have sold the farm to get their to get their

00:44:48.960 kids out we're going to round them up and send them back why because europe has been cajoled by

00:44:55.000 washington dc to give joe biden a foreign policy victory before november let's talk about the polish

00:45:02.180 farmers and link that back to what's happening in ukraine okay um can i cue now the uh the footage

00:45:10.720 and i will talk over this if den's very kindly able to play this so thousands of polish farmers

00:45:16.880 have gathered now according to some reports steve they have actually occupied yesterday the polish

00:45:22.640 um parliament the lower house the same um because they were demanding to see the the prime minister

00:45:29.300 in the event they saw the speaker of the house and both sides said they had a very productive

00:45:35.420 meeting but what specifically is the claim here of the polish farmers what has specifically got them

00:45:41.320 angry thank you very much denver um is is the is a two-fold um issue here there's the zero carbon

00:45:48.720 aspect um of on behalf of the eu policies that have been pushed on agriculture which we've spoken about

00:45:55.620 so many times the the so-called green deal and also the fact that unchecked products are coming out

00:46:01.780 of ukraine and flooding the um especially in the agricultural sector and flooding the polish domestic

00:46:08.580 market and this is creating massive social unrest in in neighboring poland so so what's happening now that

00:46:17.400 for political motives that i was just touching on for a moment this is creating shock waves now

00:46:21.880 right across um continental europe because obviously these these these farmers protests have been

00:46:28.440 rolling on for the last 12 months or so well we we will see we will see the consequences of this anger

00:46:35.580 um in less than a month's time in the um in the european it's almost exactly a month's time now steve

00:46:41.940 um in the european elections um the uh this is spreading throughout the farmers revolt

00:46:50.360 although not all of it's tied to ukraine it's all tied to climate change this farmers revolt

00:46:55.340 throughout europe has been an air agrarian populist uh add-on or kind of it's converging

00:47:01.720 with the populist and the sovereignty movement tell me how deep sea is it this is all about this over

00:47:06.720 the top crushing by the climate cult how deep and how big is the agrarian revolt we haven't quite seen

00:47:13.440 it here in the united states we're actually lagging on that but you've seen the farmers who have

00:47:17.860 obviously uh history of millennia of being very productive farmers revolting about that your

00:47:23.100 thoughts ben what i find most interesting about this steve is there is a connection a political

00:47:29.360 connection between um between the farmers the protest the popular support behind these protests

00:47:37.160 and those political parties that the mainstream media sort of slow with the the the the the term far

00:47:44.340 right and extreme right there is a connection and i would draw this parallel the consequences of trying

00:47:51.440 to impose radical green pseudo-marxist policies on on a country has the effect of driving ordinary

00:48:01.760 non-political citizens into such a strong reaction against that because it's hitting their own

00:48:09.260 interests uh the hardest it's actually making ordinary people i itself identify as being far right

00:48:17.340 uh so astonishingly counterproductive if the if the european elites really are afraid really you know

00:48:25.040 are terrified as they claim that europe is is on the verge of being subsumed by the far right these are

00:48:33.240 the very people that not only have caused that to take place but are continuing to cause it to take place

00:48:38.880 there's a hubris behind our social uh sociopathic overlords and back back to with with with a pride that

00:48:47.700 refuses to let them back down and they are going to create the very phenomenon they claim to be most scared

00:48:54.060 they're not they're not going to back down because they understand they have the power now but like

00:48:59.080 in the godfather right we're gaining power this is they want to hit them what they want to hit us

00:49:03.380 while they're still strong that's why they're coming after and this is what's turning your point is so

00:49:07.720 well taken it hasn't spread the the the farmer aspect has not spread yet to the united states but

00:49:13.800 you're going to see that there's things happening all over the country about climate change and shutting

00:49:17.360 down the farmers then we got to bounce where do people go your engagement over getter is quite

00:49:22.860 frankly breathtaking it's because of the amazing lead-ins you do to your pieces where do people go

00:49:29.380 thank you so much steve for that kind um comment it's simply my social media platform of choice

00:49:37.220 getter um and just tap in in the search box my surname harnwell and my my uh my feed will come up

00:49:43.820 right at the top there it's not i'm not saying it's it's nice i'm insanely jealous i'm all over the

00:49:50.980 team here why why is harnwell got such engagement i'm like some schmendrick ben harnwell love you

00:49:55.720 brother thank you for staying up tonight god bless okay lou dobs is going to follow us a couple things

00:50:01.320 you see right there the turbulence european parliamentary elections the sovereignty movement

00:50:06.720 now engage also we have this populist agrarian revolt about farmers who families have been doing

00:50:14.660 this for millennia the farmers of europe and now in revolt that's going to lead a right-wing movement

00:50:20.860 in this european parliamentary elections in early june we're obviously going to cover that wall to

00:50:26.160 wall because we are the global platform for the sovereignty movement the populist nationalist movement

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