WarRoom Battleground EP 594: Evangelicals, Christian Nationalists, And The Fight To Protect The Next Generation
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The Freedom caucus is pushing for a Continuing Resolution that would maintain current spending levels to avoid a government shutdown in mid-September. Congressman Ralph Nancan joins the show today to discuss the Freedom caucus strategy and what it means for the future of the country.
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this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just
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like in Georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is
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the fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's
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honrol here at the helm good afternoon friday 16th of august and or domini 2024 we've made it through
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until friday um okay so there's a lot to cover through in the show today we're going to go
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straight up with congressman ralph norman um to discuss this talk about the continuing resolution
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that the freedom caucus is very much pushing congressman norman good morning oh good morning
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man how are you um great thanks for coming back on the show you're a great war room favorite now i've
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been looking um at the background here of what the freedom caucus is trying to push for which is to
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push the debate the the continuing resolution um to a formal spending decision in march of next year
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so it's basically a cr would maintain current spending levels um uh to avoid the either uh a government
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shut down i think in sort of sort of september october sort of time period and all the political
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fallout uh if that's correct but congressman i'd like to ask you if i may to start off with
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the thing that i don't quite understand intuitively here is that it seems to me that the democrats
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control the agenda both when they're in power and when they're out of power because right now the
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gavel is in the hand of the republicans um notionally um so looking at the the freedom
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caucuses strategy here there's a there's there's something here that that's being admitted if not
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openly confessed and that is we have a substantial problem the republicans have or the freedom caucus
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or or magda or america first has a substantial problem with the vast majority of gop congressmen if
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they cannot be relied on right now when you have control of the house to come up with a spending
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plan that will benefit the vast majority of americans and obviously also the base is that right
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yeah you're exactly right ben and here's the issue um you know we've gotten through six of the
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appropriations five past we voted on six in the house uh you know we've got 12 we've got five six more
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to go and um the fact is we're not going to have it done by the date of september 30th so what the
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freedom caucus is is asking for in a letter uh is a to have a continued resolution through march now for
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your listeners the reason we are doing that is because we're going to have a new president we're
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going to have more control of the house and i think we'll have control of the senate but that being
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said we've got to put the save act which uh chip roy has worked on and my good friend clay higgins from
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louisiana and we've all signed on to in the save act uh make sure that the illegals are not voting in
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this election and it's has got some safeguards in place so that's what we're asking the speaker to
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when we go back in september to basically say we will do a continued resolution but we're going to
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do it through march and we're going to approve it through march uh the middle of march and then we're
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going to have the save act with it they don't want to do that democrats uh do do not want they want
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citizens that want illegals illegals to vote instead of limiting it to our citizens per the constitution
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so that's going to be the battle and hopefully we can we will stick on that that is the hill to die on
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if we don't have safe and secure elections with american citizens voting uh then we're like any
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other venezuela or any other socialistic country well we actually have um linda sinkowitz on the show
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for a little later who's uncovered something down in alabama to do with illegals um voting we'll come to
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that a little later on but um and it's good news by the way um but with regards to the the ci here
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what should the woman possibly be looking out for as early indications that the freedom caucus is
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actually pushing uh and winning the debate on this one because you know we've had we've had uh the debt
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ceiling debates we've had so many uh spending omnibuses that we've followed every single time it's
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been fight fight fight cave fight fight fight cave fight fight fight cave what what what what what
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what are the folks who are getting sort of a bit disillusioned if i can put it like that with a vast
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uh number of your colleagues obviously not the freedom caucus but what should folks be looking out
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for to see that you actually might uh be able to win this time uh with the cr well what what we will
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be doing is i mean we've written a letter but we're going to do more than that uh we're going to go to
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the speaker and and urge our colleagues to do the same and you know this isn't a the cancer in this
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country is overspending i don't like this budget but i don't like it uh in the hands of democrats
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through the lame duck session or through the end of the year uh all we're saying is we'll keep the
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current spending which has got to be drastically cut we've got to deal with it at some point and it
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can't always be next year but have the same numbers in place that we can get we can agree on
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hopefully but it's just pushing it into um into march now the democrats are going to say we're not
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going to take that we're going to shut the government down and it's going to be your fault we can't fall
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for that bluff in the business arena uh you call bluffs and the country's at stake here they think the
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optics uh if they don't accept it and i don't think hakeem jeffries chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell
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to be honest with you i don't think they want to put the save act on it nor do i think they want to
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punt it until march but all we can do is push for it the freedom of caucuses can can stick uh we'll get
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our support uh of close to 30 members and hopefully we'll um make a difference with the speaker and
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hopefully he will do that congressman congressman norman one of your colleagues in the senate uh
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tom tillis uh early this week you no doubt saw this as well um was starting to float the position
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of somehow tying in before november and in expectation presumably this is unsaid but of a trump victory
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but tying in funding for ukraine now pretty much 99 percent of the viewership on this show
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does not want to see more american tax dollars go to ukraine is there anything any commitments um
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that you can give the war in posse to to to indicate that the level of opposition you are going to be
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providing in the congress uh so that not not a single cent a single further red cent goes through to
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to to ukraine here's what i would say to that we've done over a hundred billion dollars to ukraine
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uh the fact is if and i would disagree if tom tillis puts this up uh first of all is money we
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don't have we don't have a hidden uh vault with this kind of money in it and so uh i'd be opposed
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to that and i think most of the people a lot of members of congress not all would take the same
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position no more money for ukraine that would be a poison pill to be honest with you and um we
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shouldn't do it now and we'll fight it and vote against it and be vocal about it and urge our
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other colleagues to do the same uh congressman ralph norman thanks very much for coming on the show
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today i just want to point out i think last february of last year you were actually rated by one
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organization um as being the most conservative uh member of congress so congratulations on that
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uh and i hope you keep up that sterling record we'll see you back on the show soon thank you very
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much sir thank you man appreciate it god bless um okay so you know having spoke about the illegals
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voting um which is something that we're hitting on obviously all the time here on the show let's
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go and talk once again we spoke to a few days ago uh to linda sinkowitz um from the organization
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fight voter fraud who has some news of of an important discovery down in alabama um substantial
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number i think sort of three and a half thousand illegals linda good afternoon to you thanks for uh
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for coming back on the show what can you um what could what details can you give us about this
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well down in alabama they pride themselves on having the most accurate voter rolls uh wes allen is their
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new secretary of state he started in january of 2023 and they uncovered 3 251 non-us citizens on
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their voter rolls and the way they found that is they have non-citizen numbers and he has been
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requesting from the federal government to give them a list of all non-citizens that have their their
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numbers in alabama but uh the feds are not helping out with that so he's getting his attorney general
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involved but as he said he will not tolerate having non-us citizens voting in our elections
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um so kudos to him for doing that so mark mitchell from lasmussen reports a couple of weeks ago on the
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show had a genius idea he's a pretty smart fellow that guy um of adding in a question into his poll
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on voting intentions the questions were obviously as they usually are usually are you going to vote
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you're going to vote republic you're going to vote democrat and all this final question linda was and
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are you a citizen of the united states get this nine percent of the respondents of that poll who said
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they intended to vote uh in in november weren't even citizens of the united states nine percent that
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is a statistic if it is represented accurately state wide which would fundamentally transform
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the the results right so so this this this figure here that you've uncovered in alabama it's a start
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but i have a feeling it's not nearly enough no there's a lot more out there so we really
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need to urge the secretary of states to start looking through the voter rolls we already know
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that you have ghost voters on voter rolls those are the people that are registered to vote that don't
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even exist it's bad enough we have deceased people that are on voter rolls that are voting
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people that have moved that are double registered double voting but this non-us citizen one is a huge
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huge problem and it also is on the application to register to vote you're basically one check mark
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away from a felony because it is a felony to uh register and vote in an election if you're not a
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u.s citizen um which has been a problem for a long time with people signing up it's just the difficulty
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of finding who they are so we really need the cooperation of the federal government to get involved in this
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so yeah okay um i have my own private views there linda and how useful they're going to be on that
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one um when you were on the show a couple of days ago um you told me just before we we came on air
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today that um you had a lot of reaction uh specifically people asking for more about the free information
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that you're offering on the double registered double voters could you just recap that again say what that
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is to say what the information is that you're offering out sure what we're doing you can go to
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our website uh fightvoterfraud.org.org go to data request and we will send you the double registered and
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double voters from your county and since i was on the program the other day we've had over 150 requests
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uh we've already hit 41 states um so thank you thank you thank you this way you can actually see
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people who should not be on your voter rolls a lot of the people are taking action within their own
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counties and with their own states we are extremely grateful for that linda we have hundreds of thousands
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of people tuning in to every show across all platforms yeah it seems to me that with very
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literal effort um if only 10 percent of our viewers actually did something here you could actually make
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a massive uh contribution towards election integrity in november what once again if you're
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sort of giving up this free information what can people send to their friends to their family members
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to contacts uh on their various social media platforms saying look at this please sort of
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forward it um and look at it forward it because it could it could move that it could move the needle
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once again what was what was that that website it's fightvoterfraud.org so dot o-r-g if you can send
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that out and then you'll see it's actually at the top um it says data request or request data
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just send that out and have them fill it out and we will get them the information that they can use
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and they can check their own voters in their counties um and they can take action along with
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the double voters which is a federal offense as well um because the information we're providing
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has um 26 2018 excuse me 2016 2018 2020 and 2022 of people who are double registered and double voting
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in multiple states so we we really need to crack down on that and we need everybody's help um in the
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near future we are going to have available um deceased voters and a whole bunch of other information that
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we're pulling together um at this time yeah i mean i said on the show before um and i'll say it again
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i i'm absolutely convinced absolutely convinced that the people responsible for 2020 will try something
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again in 2024 uh getting involved in initiatives like this linda is something that i think everyone
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can do to to make the the project of stealing an election more difficult just finally before you go
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what were you telling me about pennsylvania and the ballot marking that you wanted to alert people to
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yeah so a friend of mine at wabc news radio contacted me early this morning and said a friend of theirs had
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gone through the poll worker training in pennsylvania and they have been warned that if there was any marks
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on your ballot whether a star a d an r anything at all those ballots are actually going to be pulled
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so if you are handed a ballot with a mark on it ask them for another ballot because it will be rejected
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brilliant linda sinkowitz thank you once again for coming back on the war room uh for folks who want to
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keep up with you and your work you mentioned your website already do you have any social media that
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you'd like to share right now oh yes we're on we're on facebook we're also on instagram um people can
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email me directly with questions at linda at fight voter fraud dot org but we encourage everybody to go
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to the website you can send um in even through info if there's things that you want to do we actually
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will have a list of things that you can do within your own community in um getting this out there and
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we truly appreciate the opportunity to come on and we would love to keep you informed of all the
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different things that are going on across the country as far as election integrity so thank you
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linda thanks very much we'll catch up again with you soon god bless
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well my next guest um is a lady called megan basham who has a new book out just two weeks called
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shepherds for sale and as can be guests from the title it's really uh to do with the concept that our
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lord and savior jesus christ mentions repeated in the gospels hiling shepherds who flee in front of the
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walls uh books uh primarily wrote for the evangelical um environment but i have to say straight off that
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as a catholic we have exactly the same problems that megan mentioned in the evangelical sphere in the
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catholic sphere um megan thanks for coming on the show today good afternoon i i want to start off by
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saying that most people who write books like this at least in the catholic sphere but i guess also in
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the evangelical sphere they're sort of they write books that really they want to get invited to
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conferences and to speak on panels to promote their blogs and all the rest of it uh within their church
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communities your book really like an exocent missile is targeted directly for a huge swathe of the
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evangelical uh church establishment and i commend you for your courage on that my first question is before
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you wrote this book um how many of your friends and family try to gently discourage you from writing
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it um and then um tell us a little bit about what the book is in itself and there's a backdrop i think
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in the news today that i think makes what your uh your book is somewhat prophetic um in its um in its
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account of the the general situation uh well thanks for having me ben and uh yes uh not so much my
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family because they know how passionate i am about this subject and i care about the church and protecting
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the church and i care about uh leftist secular actors like george soros funneling money into the
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church to try to sway evangelical voters to the left and try to co-opt their vote so my family knew i was
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not going to be dissuaded from it but yes a lot of people uh institutional contacts that i have really
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discouraged me and much more than that uh we got a lot of um pushback at my publisher we had legal
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threats targeted at us we had a lot of phone calls backroom dealing to try to prevent this book from
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coming out because what i cover has been going on for some time now and as you said it's not unique
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to evangelicals it is also happening in the catholic church but the evangelical vote is so very important
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to the gop that uh these left-wing actors have been especially targeting them so for those who don't
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know the uh evangelicals represent roughly 30 percent of the u.s electorate and they have rightly been
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called even by secular left outlets like the atlantic america's most powerful voting bloc they are the
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people who put donald trump in office in 2016 and that is why you have seen this all-out effort
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uh of dark money flowing into evangelical institutions to try to move them to the left
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so that's basically the the pitch of the book and the concept of the book that the evangelical church
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it's pastors it's shepherds are effectively hiring shepherds yeah absolutely that's exactly what we're
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seeing and um you know i go into how that works on a number of different issues you were just talking
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about immigration right before me um there has been a lot of money going in to create these astroturf
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evangelical front groups that are taking money from people like george soro idea is that they will
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harness the the power of these evangelical influencers in the hopes that that influence will
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then trickle down to the pews so that's really what i track here but uh what we really need to know
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is that it's having some very big impact right the second on this election um the the story that i
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mentioned in my question that is quite topical now is i think america's most important evangelical
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family uh is billy graham's family right franklin graham his son um came out and condemned a movement
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which i think even featured one of billy graham's granddaughters in it um that this this new lobbying
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group called evangelicals for harris um look look i looked as i was reading through your book earlier
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and it's absolutely um i mean it's chapter it's chapter in verse um the the level of of corruption
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that that has taken place within the top tiers of the um of of the evangelical movement and we'll come
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and talk about the how uh specifically how that hits on the immigration front but specifically here to
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to to franklin graham um he seems to be one of the few probably the only uh i think um really
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establishment even evangelical to come out and offer clear decisive prophetic leadership and as i say
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even some of his own family um now is is wandering slightly off the reservation yes and what you really
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need to know is that this is not a coincidence that they're using billy graham's name and image
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to try to promote this evangelicals for harris movement um if you look at the people who are
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behind it one of the key speakers of this group is a man named claude alexander and he sits on the
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board he is the in fact he's the chairman of the board of christianity today which was the magazine
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that billy graham founded and so it's got a lot of trust as a brand among evangelicals but many people
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don't know that it now takes a huge amount of funding millions of dollars from secular left uh
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foundations in particular the lily endowment which is the foundation um started by the eli lily
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pharmaceutical company so it is no longer really beholden to what you would expect to be its subscriber
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based christians it's more beholden financially to the secular left and you're seeing that in its
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political activity so not only is its board chair out uh stumping for evangelicals for harris i can tell
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you its editor-in-chief a man named russell moore was involved in developing a political bible study
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that is being pushed into conservative churches and onto conservative christian campuses it was developed
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with david french the new york times columnist who of course just endorsed uh kamala harris and what
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it teaches is that abortion is a very confusing issue uh we we don't necessarily know how we should vote
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regarding an issue like abortion but systemic racism is a singularly important issue that christians are
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obligated to use their vote to oppose so even though this group claims to be non-partisan it's actually
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very subtly leftist and it also is exclusively funded by hard left secular foundations the rockefeller
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foundation the hewlett foundation second largest funder of planned parenthood in the country and they
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explicitly said when they made their grant for this political bible study that they would be seeing it roll
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out in the battleground of ohio so this is how this kind of dark money and influence is coming into the
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church to try to co-opt that naturally conservative evangelical vote um let's just take a step back
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here are some of the the chapter headings here climate change sneaking past the watchful dragons
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chapter two illegal immigration strangers neighbors and aliens chapter three hijacking the pro-life
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movement chapter four uh christian media media um and you go on there chapter six critical race
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prophets chapter seven me to uh and all the rest chapter eight none dare call it sin lgbtq in the
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church these are you you know you really have run towards the sound of the gunfire here my wider
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question for you megan um today if you if you wouldn't mind trying to tackle this is something i think
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about quite a lot within the catholic sphere how is it that people i guess you know you mentioned um
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russell moore and you know by association one could one could mention um rick warren as well right um
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yes i guess that these people had at one point when they were kids when they were youth they had
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genuine vocations what went wrong it's the same in the catholic church right the catholic church if you
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have to give a young guy who wants to be a priest has to give up really everything any idea of a family
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wife kids or the rest of it so there's obviously a vocation at the beginning what is going wrong
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across christendom that people who start off with genuine serious vocations with which for which they
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are prepared to give up everything to follow christ so what goes wrong that on 20 30 years um
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uh is it just a money thing head you you mentioned that like this lily fund i'd like to know more about
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that um obviously they're not the only people here it can't just be an issue of money we're gonna
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have a short break um and then i'll come back and ask you that but what is going wrong in western
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christendom that people are so easily they start off as pastors and defenders of sheep and end up
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becoming highly shepherds perhaps it is just a question of money i i don't know and megan um i i'd like
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if i may after this short break to come back and ask your response on that one
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welcome back uh here just finishing off with megan basham talking about her new book shepherds for
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sale uh just before the break megan uh i asked you if you had an idea of you of what's going wrong in
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western christendom do you have a quick response for us yeah i mean obviously i do think uh filthy
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lucre mammon plays a role here but there's also the media adulation that you see there's the uh proximity
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to elite institutions and seeing your name hailed and and being suddenly in these very um tony circles
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with the um davos crowd with the un with the council for foreign relations so all of those
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things is turning a lot of heads and that's the very sort of thing that scripture warned us would
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happen so i really want to tell people in the pews catholic protestant you need to be aware of how
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this could be impacting your churches um look in the catholic ambit and i guess in the evangelical as
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well there's a you know anyone with any experience or any type of vocation towards um evangelization
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especially in the new media is just pushed uh in that direction because there's a lot of converts
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that can be made out there right a lot of lost sheep can can be brought back into the fold uh this
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listen to your answer i think it's pretty good as well your answer um i just wonder whether in the
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catholic sphere and in the evangelical sphere any attention is being given on a spiritual pastoral
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level for those people who are doing that sort of outreach for those temptations that will beset
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them i'm not familiar with very much um in the catholic sphere uh you know no not really and i think
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part of that is that you have this sort of um idol of respectability so that people once there are
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boundaries established for what's the polite discourse to have and how we should talk about
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some of these subjects you will find very few pastors and ministry leaders willing to traverse
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those uh boundaries and risk seeming impolite and i think that's part of why the conversation around
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issues of sin issues of salvation have gotten so stilted yeah megan um very very grateful for you
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coming on the show uh today we're definitely going to have you back could you just um give a few
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details about your book where people uh shepherds uh for hire where they can uh where they can get
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this where they where shepherds for sale excuse me get it amazon barnes and noble target walmart
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anywhere there's books um and uh you can find me on twitter at at meg basham and instagram at
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journalist megan basham and of course i work for the daily wire so you can always find me there
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great thanks very much i love your surname by the way uh thank you it's it that's definitely the
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kind of uh spirit we try to have uh here on the war in basham megan thanks very much we'll catch
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up again with you on the show soon god bless you too thanks ben thanks my next guest um rapidly
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becoming a firm favorite here on the war with ellen fantini managing editor of the european
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conservative of which i am i i have a a small um role i declare that interest right right away i look
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at the the european eurocon website every morning ellen uh there was something good morning to you
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good afternoon there's something that caught my eye today uh over in germany which is these elections
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that are uh projected for i think in thuringia um and saxony um uh in september uh could you just give
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a quick rundown because um for the war impossible we we've been tracking in real time for the last
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couple of years all the developments to do with the the patriotic nation first iterations right across
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europe uh germany is producing great results and these results here um in september and seem to
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indicate that the alternative for deutschland the afd um could have uh some some great great uh electoral
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victories for them yes that's right uh thanks for having me back ben always great to be here so yes in
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september uh voters in eastern germany uh will cast their votes in state elections or as they call
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them federal elections um two states in early september one uh mid-september and it's looking very good
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for alternative for deutschland uh in two two out of three they're expected to come in first uh in the
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third they'll they're expected to come in second and of course eastern germany has lived through
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communism they don't want it and they're very clear that uh that the alternative for deutschland is what
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they want um the anti-globalist right-wing uh party that wants to stop immigration is pro-peace that's what
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germans won um okay uh so i'm looking here at some of the statistics um and the european
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election results produce something um for between 11 and 15.9 percent so every time uh that we're that
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we're having an election here in content or europe we're seeing these percentages move forward and
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forward and forward slightly a bit at the time uh they're the containment strategy this cordon sanitaire
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as it's called the idea that the mainstream political parties can eliminate the non-establishment
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right-wing parties uh by simply not dealing with them that containment strategy isn't working is it
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it's not working in germany and you know what's interesting is these establishment parties are so
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uh afraid of being uh forced to work with the afd that they're working uh with each other even though
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they don't agree on anything so they would rather uh gather gather their enemies close just so that
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they can keep away um the afd and that's very much like i i told your viewers what's happening in the
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european parliament with uh the patriots for europe this whole idea of a cordon sanitaire right this idea
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that that the other side is diseased and has to be kept away is alive and well also in germany there's
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also an interesting um party that i think um is is kind of a wild card this is this uh bsw or sarah
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wagenknecht's party she um she was a star in the left and she left them because she said uh they've gone
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too woke and they're not paying attention to workers and pensioners and so she is what we'd call
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a left-wing nationalist party populist and she has basically said she's not working with any party
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who uh supports the war in ukraine so of course afd and sarah wagen next party um are called anti-ukraine
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pro-russian but what i think is really clear is that they're they're both pro-peace yeah um i'm
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following her movement with a great deal of interest uh because it's coming from the left um and the
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lockdown again obviously it's exactly what you would expect uh it just i mean our political leaders
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pretend not to be obsessed by ukraine but they are you know how obsessed they are when anyone goes
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against the official line on that and as steve said on this show so many times there is something
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going on in ukraine um that is acting like a magnet uh captivating the the uh political leadership
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right across the west look um in the two minutes that we have left ellen there's something else uh i
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i don't know if denver would like to to put the uh this article up on denmark saying sweden's
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failed migration policy is to blame for exported crime but when one thinks of scandinavia you think
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of peace tranquility um you don't think of countries sort of sort of attacking one another um over this
00:43:02.700
immigration issue to tell us a little bit what's going on here in northern europe in nordic europe to
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do with the immigration right and can america can america look forward to the same uh disturbance same
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civic disturbance right so so american leftists love to talk about the the haven that is the nordics
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particularly sweden but the fact is uh sweden has had a very very liberal migration policy for
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at least a decade and now uh sweden has another claim to fame which is that it has the highest
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per capita rate of gun violence gun violence in the european union um and uh so so what's been happening
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is that uh that danish gang members criminal gang members have been bringing uh what are called
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swedish child soldiers um imagine swedish child soldiers um imagine swedish child soldiers now twenty
00:44:07.340
percent of of the swedish population um wasn't uh from sweden originally now that's a very high rate of
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migration they're bringing these swedish child soldiers over to denmark to uh to participate in these
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gang battles uh and the danes have had enough so uh in fact even though there's a bridge that um that links
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these two countries and of course people have always gone back and forth last week denmark implemented
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border controls on trains coming across that bridge because of shootings and a bombing involving young
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perpetrators from sweden so uh the danes have had enough they're saying uh if you get convicted of a
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crime you're going to get deported and your whole family is going to get deported and the swedes we hope
00:45:01.900
are starting to wake up certainly looks that way um i i mentioned that the two articles were discussed on
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the european conservative website and where do people go if they want to read about these two things
00:45:14.380
uh in in more detail and many of just go to the website folks it's outstanding um yes europeanconservative.com
00:45:23.820
great europeanconservative.com ellen fantini thanks very much for joining us once again i'll catch
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up again with you soon god bless yeah thanks for having me ben bye bye bye bye god bless so my final guest
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today this afternoon is michelle morrow the the the gop candidate for the superintendent of
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north carolina um michelle i i've been sitting in the news and it looks like the establishment is
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really trying to to stop you now as we move towards the election what have you done what have you said
00:45:58.460
to upset folks so much good afternoon to you good afternoon thank you so much for having me on ben
00:46:05.500
i have been exposing the divisive and the dangerous content in our schools it's harming our children
00:46:11.900
and they know that i am going to get rid of dei and crt and get boys out of our girls sports and
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private places yeah i mean you you said your your famous expressions is you've called public school
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you've homeschooled your four kids right um but you um you've called public education um indoctrination
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centers socialist centers i think everyone in the war room would agree with you on that you're also
00:46:39.420
pledging if elected uh to bring back uh some form of biblical instruction right could you tell us a
00:46:46.780
bit about what your plans are there sure and i have five children and you're exactly right they know
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that i have been exposing the fact that they are not teaching our children critical thinking they're
00:47:00.140
teaching them um a an ideology and political and social activism is happening in the schools and
00:47:06.940
i'm going to get rid of that i just want to point out that your democrat opponent is called mo green
00:47:14.380
now anyone who's you you this must have been pointed out to a thousand times right mo green for
00:47:19.900
anyone who knows the godfather films is is is a guy who's in the mafia bumped off by the mafia
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the guy according to the to the godfather trilogy built um vegas uh that's obviously not your your
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candidate that you're fighting against but it's sort of it's illustrative i think of how the the
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democrats and the uni party in lockstep very much do act as if they were an outfit of organized crime
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you were also if i may um just recall back two years you were also present at the january the 6th
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protest right you you video stream yourself there and a lot of people don't like that
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you're right a lot of people are not for the rule of law as well as constitution to reign
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in the united states and they're threatened by that um sure um uh and you you um you um you asked um
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for i think um the military uh at some point uh to um to assist in some ways with famous like our
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first guest on the show today uh congressman ralph norman also asked for the military uh he hits i think
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he asked for for martial law itself during the um the inauguration process that is obviously also
00:48:36.540
uh creating a lot of opposition to you uh from the usual quarters um are you following michelle what's
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going on in uh oklahoma uh with their state superintendent who has ordered the the public
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the the obligatory uh instruction of the bible uh in in all state schools there are you following this
00:48:59.740
i am following um mr walters and i think this i think our students desperately need to know the
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truth about history and i think as a historical text the bible um spans um spans not only geography but
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also the entire um beginnings of western civilization and i think it's important for our students to have
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accurate history especially at the world stage and there's also a similar um proposal in louisiana
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right if i remember correctly to obligatory have even if it's only a poster the 10 commandments up on
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every school classroom this is something uh that you would also consider as state superintendent
00:49:48.540
i absolutely would consider that i think that we need to recognize that all of the three largest
00:49:54.540
religions in the world whether it's islam christianity or judaism all look to the old
00:50:00.460
testament and the 10 commandments for their foundational belief system and their moral compass and i think
00:50:06.380
we are in desperate need of a moral compass um just just finally then michelle i think on the basis of
00:50:14.460
what you said and what you're known for if the war room posse had the vote had the vote on this you would
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be elected with a super majority um uh for this position but i think it's it's going to be only
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people um in in north carolina i get the votes can you just tell us a bit about the election the details
00:50:35.340
where folks uh can get your your campaign uh information find out more fully about your platform
00:50:43.180
certainly and i will say this i am going to win this election because the majority of parents are very
00:50:49.500
concerned about the we have a literacy crisis we have a an increase in drugs and violence in our
00:50:56.460
schools and our children are not equipped to be able to go into adulthood and to be successful
00:51:02.460
and i believe not just in north carolina i believe it costs the entire country
00:51:07.740
doesn't matter your race your religion or your politics everybody is concerned that their students
00:51:13.340
are not getting what they deserve uh absolutely right i i guess your your philosophical position
00:51:20.460
here is that parents ought to be the basically fundamentally responsible for the for the education
00:51:28.060
for the formation of their children rather than the state right absolutely i think parents have the
00:51:34.780
responsibility um and it is the schools that should be partnering with parents to ensure that their
00:51:41.340
children are going to be able to reach their full potential i think that i know that i have fought
00:51:47.900
to protect parental rights in north carolina for the last five years it would be interesting for the
00:51:54.060
people that are listening to know that my opponent actually has stated that the parental bill of
00:51:59.500
rights is doing more harm than good i saw something in the news just briefly because we have a minute left
00:52:07.180
now i saw something in the news this morning that that one state i i don't recall which one it was
00:52:11.900
has has um has said that uh the state can give children abortions without the the consent or
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information or the awareness the knowledge of the awareness of the parents i guess this is something
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you would be absolutely opposed to in north carolina right 100 percent i am a nurse and as such i believe
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one hundred percent in medical freedom and to another point my opponent is proudly endorsed by planned
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parenthood and they don't have any business being in our schools and that's why the people of north
00:52:46.780
carolina have got to elect me um and my website is morrow4nc.com if they want to go
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i think we're having a slight sound break up there but we'll get those details on our own
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website michelle morrow thank you very much for joining us on the show this afternoon wish you
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every uh look uh in your election and we'll catch up again with you soon god bless for now
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