Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 702： Keeping Your Foot On The Gas With Deportations

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

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00:00:31.460 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:32.880 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:34.580 but you're not going to stop it.

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00:00:36.800 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

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00:00:41.500 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:46.940 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:50.700 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

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00:00:57.960 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:00:59.980 Back.

00:01:04.560 Welcome.

00:01:05.180 It's Wednesday, 5 February, in the letter of our Lord, 2025.

00:01:09.320 Todd Benzman is going to join us in a moment.

00:01:12.840 I want to get Todd to get us totally up to speed on what's happening on the ceiling of the border,

00:01:19.740 the mass deportations, Mexico, all of it.

00:01:22.300 And he's done a great job of pulling this information together.

00:01:24.740 A couple of things.

00:01:26.280 And Todd is a proud member of the great state of Texas.

00:01:30.960 I'm going to be in Texas on Friday, 28 February with Jack Posobiec and many others from the MAGA movement,

00:01:38.760 giving a talk to the Tarrant County Republicans.

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00:02:33.560 Really enjoyed everybody there.

00:02:34.860 And particularly beforehand, when I get to meet and greet folks, it's so much fun.

00:02:38.980 So looking forward again at Tarrant County.

00:02:40.360 Here, China, this is the lead story, in this morning's Financial Times of London, China seeks ammunition for Trump talks by reviving U.S. big tech probes.

00:02:54.980 They said they're going to go after Google and others.

00:02:58.100 What China is doing, he's looking for every tool in the toolbox because President Trump said, hey, there's going to be some tariffs here, maybe a trade war, never know.

00:03:08.340 So he's trying to reach an accommodation.

00:03:11.480 He understands President Trump does not want a shooting war.

00:03:15.640 He wants peace and prosperity.

00:03:17.500 You saw yesterday in the Gaza announcement, which was kind of next level 5D chest.

00:03:21.880 I was not expecting that one.

00:03:24.520 So, you know, from my coverage yesterday, we're talking about are we going to be lighting up Persia?

00:03:28.320 And I hope we're not.

00:03:29.360 But, you know, other people disagree with that.

00:03:31.480 We're having a good, I think, kind of robust debate and talking about Bibi's trip.

00:03:34.680 And President Trump drops the bomb of his vision, his vision of Gaza.

00:03:40.560 In China, it's more kind of mano a mano right now.

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00:04:53.620 Todd, Benzman, Mexico.

00:04:57.800 First question.

00:04:59.560 Fifteen days into this thing, 16 days into it, is the border, is the southern border of the United States of America secure, sir?

00:05:08.160 It's as close as I've seen it in decades.

00:05:10.840 Four hundred and forty crossings the day before yesterday.

00:05:17.000 They're in the 400 range now a day, border length from Tijuana all the way to Matamoros.

00:05:22.860 That's stunning.

00:05:24.200 That's down two-thirds from where it was on Biden's final week in office.

00:05:29.740 The border is really pretty darn hermetically sealed at this point, and it's going to stay that way because of the tariff threat from Trump.

00:05:41.900 It's got the Mexicans now deploying 10,000 troops who are going to double layer that thing to make sure that people don't try to – more people don't try to penetrate.

00:05:53.160 The most important part of it is that even the four or five hundred a day that are crossing, none of them are being released.

00:06:02.940 They are all being expelled or detained, often right back to Mexico or detained and flown.

00:06:11.240 There was a flight to India.

00:06:13.320 There was a flight to China.

00:06:15.120 There have been a bunch of flights to Colombia, as we all know, a bunch more since that whole kerfuffle.

00:06:20.900 And the immigrants, the aliens that are trying to – that want to cross are aware that they're stuck. 0.54

00:06:30.200 They're not coming through.

00:06:31.860 Wherever they got caught when the gate closed is where they are.

00:06:36.060 And most of them are going to be in Mexico.

00:06:39.440 And so the big problem that we had in the United States, all our mayors and our governors and spending all this budget, is now Mexico's problem. 0.67

00:06:49.620 And they are in chaos down there trying to figure out how to handle it.

00:06:54.460 Hundreds of thousands stuck down there.

00:06:57.640 Okay, hang on for a second.

00:06:58.720 I want to go back.

00:07:00.760 The border is secured.

00:07:03.420 It took about a –

00:07:04.580 Yeah, but hang on.

00:07:06.020 When Mayorka said that, it had no meaning.

00:07:07.940 When Joe Biden said that, it had no meaning.

00:07:09.560 When Kamala Harris said that, it has no meaning.

00:07:11.440 When Todd Benzman says that, it has meaning.

00:07:15.280 You wrote the definitive book on this topic, and you're the first person to come on here and say, hey, I want everybody to know it is not chaos.

00:07:23.660 This is very well thought through of what is happening on this invasion.

00:07:27.140 So when Todd Benzman comes back here and says, for all sakes and purposes, the border is secured, walk me through.

00:07:34.680 What does Todd Benzman mean by that?

00:07:38.260 Give me some details.

00:07:40.700 Right.

00:07:41.540 Well, it means that very, very, very few illegal aliens are crossing the border anymore.

00:07:49.460 And the reason is because of expulsions and detentions and deportations.

00:07:58.460 I'm pretty sure that you've asked me a bunch of times on this show, you know, how long, Todd, would it take?

00:08:03.860 Do you think it would take to, you know, shut that border down?

00:08:07.340 And my answer is always about an hour, maybe less.

00:08:11.320 And that's about how long it took.

00:08:13.100 It's just a flick of the switch.

00:08:14.900 We did not need a Lankford Senate bill that they talked about all through the campaign or comprehensive immigration reform or anything like that.

00:08:25.640 We had the laws on the books.

00:08:27.220 We just had to simply apply them to have the will to apply them.

00:08:31.860 That's what Trump did on inauguration when the clock struck noon plus one minute.

00:08:40.200 They canceled the parole programs, the flights, the walking them across.

00:08:45.880 And everybody said, wow, when you cancel those parole entries, those scheduled illegal entries that the government's doing, the illegal smuggling, they're all going to start rushing the border.

00:08:57.380 But that didn't happen.

00:08:59.040 So that's over.

00:09:00.180 There were 70 or 80,000 a month being brought in that way, flown directly into U.S. cities and brought in over the border.

00:09:08.320 And that's over.

00:09:10.080 And now you just got the four or 500 a day and they're all being easily captured.

00:09:15.620 There's probably a few runners who got away.

00:09:18.920 There's always going to be that.

00:09:20.740 But that's that's just the you know, that's a low, low norm for this country.

00:09:26.660 It's it's really, you know, Kamala Harris goes down there and takes the the armies down there.

00:09:35.060 I'll get back to Biden and Harris in a second.

00:09:37.420 But Pete goes to the armies down there.

00:09:39.340 What purpose now is the army at the southern border, sir?

00:09:45.480 Well, you have to keep your foot on the gas pedal.

00:09:48.600 The fact that they were successful does not mean you can, you know, call off the emergency declaration or any of the the tactics that that are in play down there in the strategy.

00:10:04.760 It has to stay on nonstop.

00:10:08.240 The military down there right now, they are providing a crucial manpower.

00:10:15.560 They're filling a manpower shortage.

00:10:17.200 They're they're putting up wire.

00:10:19.720 They're they're glassing the area.

00:10:21.460 They're they're they're putting boots on the ground in areas where there aren't many boots on the ground.

00:10:26.260 And you may have noticed in recent days that Border Patrol agents are on the interior away from the border running ice raids, basically, you know, running, you know, hauling in illegal immigrants from away from the border.

00:10:41.520 So they're doing really crucial tasks of rounding up illegals and getting them out of the country because they've got other boots on the ground down there, you know, filling the gaps. 1.00

00:10:56.660 And that's how this works.

00:10:58.120 You have to have layers of different agencies. 0.97

00:11:00.480 You've got DEA out there working with ICE and you have lots of other federal officers who are out there because, remember, the Biden administration spent the last four years dismantling the whole damn machine.

00:11:17.280 A thousand ICE agents shorter than when Biden entered office and they were chained to their desks.

00:11:25.000 So they're like atrophied.

00:11:26.480 And so it's going to take a little while to start rounding up on the interior.

00:11:30.940 But the border, you've got to keep your foot on the gas down there for a good long time to make sure that the the illegal aliens on the other side get the message that they are not getting through.

00:11:44.680 They're not going to get through.

00:11:46.480 And I think they have that message now.

00:11:50.100 Mayorkas and Harris and Biden.

00:11:53.700 Go back.

00:11:54.540 What were they doing?

00:11:55.520 Because at the height, your book, Overrun, really, I think, ripped the mask off this with all your hits you did here.

00:12:01.940 I think there was a year you were on here like every day.

00:12:05.440 Yes.

00:12:05.760 Sometimes you're on twice a day.

00:12:07.940 In fact, at what at what what is the month that had the most crossings?

00:12:13.200 Wasn't it like two, three hundred thousand?

00:12:15.580 What was that?

00:12:16.040 A couple of those couple of those months were like insane.

00:12:19.000 What was that month that was so high?

00:12:20.820 What was the number?

00:12:22.000 First of all, all those months were insane.

00:12:24.600 Two hundred thousand, two hundred and fifty thousand.

00:12:27.980 But November and December of twenty twenty three was, you know, the peak.

00:12:33.140 They were they were we were seeing ten thousand twelve, thirteen and fourteen thousand a day compared to that to four hundred and forty yesterday.

00:12:43.100 I mean, it's just like I was saying, Kamala Harris was out there saying we need to turn the page on the on everything on the border.

00:12:50.800 Well, that page is completely turned, in my view, down there on the border because of policies.

00:13:00.100 What they did, Steve, was they they just simply decided that they were not going to follow the law, which requires detention and removal.

00:13:13.500 Those are the key things, detention and removal down there.

00:13:17.880 Instead, they opted for mass release.

00:13:22.020 It was unbelievable.

00:13:23.780 No democratic government or administration had ever done anything like that.

00:13:30.600 It was purposeful.

00:13:32.300 They they they they they engineered this thing.

00:13:35.620 It was not.

00:13:36.720 Oh, my God, this thing just got out of control.

00:13:39.140 And, you know, there's all these wars in the world and, you know, all this terrible things happening in the world and climate change and everything.

00:13:45.900 No, it was always one thing.

00:13:50.320 Block, stop, detain, deter.

00:13:52.940 That's what the the illegal aliens look for. 1.00

00:13:57.200 They just want to know, am I going to drop $10,000 and end up back home or am I going to drop $10,000 in smuggling fees and end up inside the country and under Biden?

00:14:08.280 It was 95 percent guaranteed you were going to get in and stay in.

00:14:14.320 So the page is turned on that.

00:14:16.620 That's not happening anymore.

00:14:18.900 So in Mexico.

00:14:21.300 Let's talk about that.

00:14:22.420 So you've stopped it.

00:14:24.280 Now I'm going to talk about each side of this.

00:14:26.460 Let's go to the Mexican side. 0.94

00:14:28.920 Is it chaos down there because these hundreds of thousands of people that continue to come north and think somehow they're going to get through and Trump's not serious about this?

00:14:37.400 Is that all in northern Mexico?

00:14:39.740 Because we have not I'll talk about this in a second with you.

00:14:41.960 We have not started really started the mass deportations.

00:14:44.200 Is it the fact that the border is fairly hermetically sealed and they can't come across?

00:14:50.340 And that's why northern Mexico is having now a time of turbulence and chaos?

00:14:55.280 Yes.

00:14:57.280 They got stuck with the hot potato in the game.

00:15:01.040 They are now having to manage the costs and the bureaucracy of the costs of dealing with supporting hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that are stuck in Mexico, can't go forward.

00:15:21.340 A lot of them want to stay in Mexico, they say, and, you know, become that go for the great Mexican dream.

00:15:28.400 Fine.

00:15:28.840 Great.

00:15:29.620 But the Mexicans are don't have the cash for it like we didn't have the cash. 1.00

00:15:33.840 The Mexicans are building these shelters all across northern Mexico to house them because they can't get through anymore. 1.00

00:15:42.380 The Mexicans are threatening to do their own deportations and have done some deportations by air.

00:15:49.480 The Mexicans are trying to create negative, bad conditions that would force all of those illegals down there to self-deport. 1.00

00:15:59.820 That's what we're trying to do up here, trying to create self-deport. 0.97

00:16:04.060 Well, the Mexicans are doing it. 1.00

00:16:05.980 Now, the Mexicans are not receiving a whole lot of new immigrants from their south.

00:16:13.920 The Darien Gap, which we've talked about here over and over again, I've been down there, Michael, Jan, Oscar, all of those guys, they've all been down there for the last few years.

00:16:24.600 That's over.

00:16:25.480 I talked to the head of Cinefront just the other day on the phone, and I said, what's going on in the Darien?

00:16:33.040 And he said, it's 8 percent of what it was a year ago.

00:16:37.160 It's nothing.

00:16:38.000 It's down 90 percent, the traffic through the Darien, because the immigrants see what's going on up trail in Mexico, so they're staying home. 1.00

00:16:46.640 They're not even bothering.

00:16:49.340 It's this reverse domino effect that we saw when the COVID closed all those borders.

00:16:55.000 All of a sudden, all the way down back through to home villages, people are saying, I'm not going.

00:17:01.840 I'm not spending 10 grand or 20 grand to go.

00:17:04.500 But it's important that the Trump administration maintain the pressure because they are looking for any weak link in the chain.

00:17:15.980 They're looking for any crevice that they can get through.

00:17:20.640 And if they find one, man, they will pour through.

00:17:23.920 So it's got to – you can't just get complacent and rest on their laurels.

00:17:28.820 It's your whole – Michael Yon's whole thing about what osmotic flow, the pressure flows.

00:17:34.840 Why then – riddle me this, Todd Benzman.

00:17:38.520 Why then does President Trump drop the hammer on Mexico given that his actions – and he's thought that – he and Miller and Hohman have thought this through to the nth detail about sealing the border.

00:17:51.220 Why then does he drop the emergency order as a national security on Mexico for 25 percent, not just as part of an economic change of model, but about fentanyl?

00:18:05.200 What is it about fentanyl in the drug trade?

00:18:08.440 Why is that still such a problem?

00:18:10.020 If we have hermetically sealed the border, brother, we've hermetically sealed the border.

00:18:14.000 Is fentanyl still getting in at the levels that it was before?

00:18:18.640 Right.

00:18:19.120 That was a campaign promise.

00:18:21.200 He is moving on that promise, not just with Mexico and – but also with Canada and China now too.

00:18:29.660 He campaigned on that and he meant business when he did campaign on that.

00:18:35.460 And fentanyl is a difficult problem.

00:18:39.060 It's an intractable – it's a wicked problem because it comes in very small quantities.

00:18:46.060 It's trafficked in small quantities.

00:18:47.880 It's easy to move on trucks.

00:18:49.600 It's easy to mail in from China.

00:18:52.060 It's easy to – and so they are insistent.

00:18:56.760 The Trump administration has to be insistent that Mexico actually use its military to physically,

00:19:06.400 kinetically pressure the Mexican cartels in their labs and to physically get between the cartels and our border in the smuggling lanes.

00:19:18.160 That's going to be very interesting to watch because once you put Mexican military power between the cartels and our border, there's going to be fireworks shooting.

00:19:29.460 That's what happens when they do that.

00:19:31.460 And I think that that is about to happen.

00:19:34.180 And I've got sources in the administration who are telling me that they are working on U.S.-backed, intelligence-backed plans for the Mexicans to start kinetically working against the cartel fentanyl labs.

00:19:50.860 And so you've got to move on.

00:19:53.660 Hold it.

00:19:53.800 Hold it.

00:19:54.200 Stop.

00:19:54.700 Stop, Benzman.

00:19:55.680 You're not going to be – and we're not burying the lead there.

00:19:58.740 You're saying how big a deal is it and what does it change to designate the Mexican drug and human trafficking cartels terrorist organization, sir?

00:20:08.160 It depends.

00:20:10.240 I'm waiting to hear how they plan to resource that because right now you've got 70, 60 or 65, 70 designated terrorist organizations.

00:20:22.260 They're almost all Islamics. 1.00

00:20:24.540 And they've got the FBI working those, and they're pretty tied up working that.

00:20:32.040 So I'm very curious to see how they're going to also take on –

00:20:37.180 But as a terrorist organization, you're designated people, and you're saying here that you know inside the administration they're working on plans right now.

00:20:45.840 When you say kinetic, you mean guns up against the fentanyl labs.

00:20:50.700 I take it those fentanyl labs are not in the territory of the United States of America, correct?

00:20:55.220 This would be in Mexico?

00:20:56.740 Mexican fentanyl labs.

00:20:58.140 My understanding is that one use of this military, the 10,000, is to try to get all up in the grill of those cartels on that fentanyl stuff.

00:21:12.860 So we haven't seen it happen yet because it just – it's pretty – the troops aren't even out yet.

00:21:18.840 They're still like rolling out of the barracks.

00:21:20.960 But I think we are going to see some kinetic stuff going on down there.

00:21:26.120 I think that there needs to be some kinetic activity down there.

00:21:30.380 We have a lot of Americans dying from this drug, way, way too many.

00:21:36.840 Obviously, something has to be done, and they're going to at the very least put up some show-and-tell or some dog-and-pump something.

00:21:44.460 They're going to do something to show, please don't put those tariffs on us, Mr. President.

00:21:53.580 So this will be used in the Mexican Army.

00:21:55.760 Folks, you should know the tariff situation.

00:22:00.180 President Trump inquired they send 10,000 Mexican Army and Marine personnel to the border.

00:22:06.760 You're saying you think some of those will be designated to go kinetic against the Mexican cartels and particularly the fentanyl labs in northern Mexico.

00:22:16.320 Is that your belief?

00:22:17.980 That's my belief.

00:22:20.100 Yeah.

00:22:20.720 I think that's going to happen.

00:22:22.000 Is that – tell people, given you've been doing this for a long time, how big a game-changer is that, sir?

00:22:27.900 It depends.

00:22:31.460 You know, like I've had people tell me that know this stuff say, well, it depends on which division they put in there because, you know, half the Mexican military is co-opted, you know, corrupted by those cartels.

00:22:44.980 So you've got to get – I mean, you know, maybe the Mexican Navy guys or – I mean, let's face it.

00:22:52.760 You know, half of the Mexican military is corrupted, and they're in bed with those guys. 0.72

00:22:57.740 So you can kind of see that the Mexican – the central government, Scheinbaum's government is going to have to pick and choose who they put in there.

00:23:08.360 It depends on which units they put in there, in my opinion, because it is what it is.

00:23:16.120 That's Mexico for you. 0.88

00:23:18.940 Let's talk about the other side, and I want to hold you through the break if that's possible.

00:23:22.240 I want to take a minute or two here and hold you through the break.

00:23:25.540 So on our side, Tom Holman and Christy Noem have been doing these raids, the ICE raids, and a lot of it, I think, is to show activity and we're serious.

00:23:37.480 But first of all, how do you think the raids of the criminals, and what do you think of the blowback from the sanctuary city,

00:23:42.200 and particularly the mayor of Chicago and Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, saying you're not coming to my jail, you're not coming to my prison,

00:23:49.720 you're not going to get these foreign nationals out of here? 1.00

00:23:52.640 Your thoughts?

00:23:54.380 Well, first of all, you know, they brought down 10,000 dangerous criminals.

00:23:59.480 That's good on any day.

00:24:01.140 I don't care who does that.

00:24:02.500 They did that.

00:24:03.640 Way, way more than the Biden administration ever did in a week and a half, for sure.

00:24:09.860 They had those ICE guys chained to their desk.

00:24:11.800 That's a really good number, and I think that number is going to go way higher.

00:24:16.420 Holman is pushing to up the quotas, the daily quotas.

00:24:20.120 They want 1,500 a day rounded up.

00:24:23.920 And that's just the criminal aliens. 0.67

00:24:26.440 And then after that, they're going to go after other categories.

00:24:29.100 So you have to expect those numbers to rise.

00:24:37.220 And as far as the Blue City pushback, man, that is like a head-scratcher to me.

00:24:44.720 I will never get that.

00:24:46.340 It's not a head-scratcher.

00:24:47.280 It's not a head-scratcher.

00:24:49.200 It's not a head-scratcher.

00:24:50.560 Of course they're going to stop.

00:24:51.260 I'll tell you what, Todd, hang on for a second.

00:24:53.360 I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:24:55.900 In fact, Todd, I'm going to recommend for an energy pickup late in the afternoon.

00:24:59.720 Are Todd, are you a little sleepy?

00:25:01.200 Tired?

00:25:03.080 Todd Bensman.

00:25:04.900 Todd Bensman.

00:25:06.380 I'm not used to low-energy Todd Bensman.

00:25:08.580 Bensman, I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:25:10.140 We're going to come back.

00:25:10.840 I want to talk about those raids.

00:25:12.000 I want to talk about the mayors are defiant.

00:25:15.580 They think the politics work for them.

00:25:17.940 These radical Democrats, they think standing up to President Trump.

00:25:20.960 Heck, the California Assembly just passed a bill, $50 million.

00:25:25.020 To obstruct Trump.

00:25:27.820 Tonight at 9 o'clock, you're going to see Samantha Powers on Rachel Maddow. 0.97

00:25:30.880 They're arrogant.

00:25:31.940 They're not backing down. 0.98

00:25:33.620 Look online.

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00:25:38.540 Out of London.

00:25:40.140 The invasion of the southern border.

00:25:43.120 Burquam and Taunton went there.

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00:26:36.280 Todd's on the other side.

00:26:37.440 The operant word in deportations is mass.

00:26:42.820 M-A-S-S. 1.00

00:26:44.700 That means a grunch.

00:26:47.840 Where are we on that?

00:26:49.260 Is that a fantasy?

00:26:50.740 Is everything we're seeing just performative?

00:26:53.900 As the ICE agents put themselves in harm's way?

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00:31:37.140 So Todd, let's go back to the cities, the sanctuary cities.

00:31:45.480 Of course Chicago is going to push back.

00:31:48.020 New York's not because Adams understands what a disaster it is.

00:31:51.460 L.A.'s not because I think Bass and Newsom is at the White House at 4 o'clock.

00:31:57.260 Maybe we can get some clips of that.

00:31:58.700 They need the money.

00:32:00.980 But they think it's politically smart for them to fight and confront the Trump administration from coming into the jails and prisons and getting the illegal alien foreign national criminals, sir.

00:32:14.400 Yeah, well, let them think that.

00:32:17.880 That's what the Democratic Party thought about the border and all the illegal aliens rushing into all the big cities all during the campaign.

00:32:26.960 And look what happened. 1.00

00:32:27.700 They lost their ass. 1.00

00:32:28.700 So the point is that, you know, if you're going to inflict those kind of criminal aliens on your own people, you're – I can't see what political advantage you're going to gain from that. 1.00

00:32:41.180 You're going to lose again.

00:32:42.840 But, you know, we'll see.

00:32:44.560 Every time, you know, ICE runs around and, you know, rounds up a bunch of these, you got, you know, Fox News or, you know, somebody embedded in there.

00:32:51.440 And you can actually see who these people are, you know, child rapists, repeat, you know, rapists of adult women and armed robbers and all that kind of violent gangbangers and repeatedly arrested over and over again and repeatedly released by those blue police departments and blue sheriffs.

00:33:15.460 And there they are.

00:33:16.680 You could have picked them up any time they're free running around for ICE.

00:33:20.020 That is just a horror show for them.

00:33:23.280 I can't see what the political advantage is in that.

00:33:27.000 I think they're just going to lose.

00:33:28.700 Why don't you just encourage them to keep doing it?

00:33:31.380 Because that's what happened in the 2024 election.

00:33:35.600 They lost on that.

00:33:37.180 Let me make it – the engine room is also informing me, but I want to get something out.

00:33:42.040 And the resistance, you got legal – you know, you got – they're going to courts.

00:33:44.780 They're doing this.

00:33:45.520 They're fighting.

00:33:46.100 They're fighting.

00:33:46.980 They're slowing down everything in the Senate.

00:33:48.560 They're fighting now every step of the way using all the tactics in the legislative process.

00:33:54.480 The budget fights are going to be enormous.

00:33:56.480 They're going to be front page.

00:33:57.600 Everybody's going to talk about markets, going to be turbulent.

00:34:00.600 Turbulence is going to be the theme of our era.

00:34:03.540 That's just how it is.

00:34:04.460 We've got to make up for decades and decades and decades of inattention and rot kicking the can down the road.

00:34:11.040 In our generation, right here, this place in time, we have to stop it.

00:34:15.640 The two things are going to explode.

00:34:17.180 One is when you have to do the cuts and the social programs, it's going to be – it's going to be – you know, all of it's going to be – you know, that's going to be on TV every night.

00:34:25.980 You're not feeding the kids.

00:34:27.120 You're taking away from education.

00:34:28.280 You're killing the arts, all of it.

00:34:30.560 But the one they're really going to lead is when you really start mass deportations.

00:34:34.200 It's one thing to take out criminal aliens out of jails and prison or do it now with administrative warrants.

00:34:40.540 It's one of the reasons you're not seeing as much action as you saw in the first couple of days.

00:34:43.600 It's tough.

00:34:44.240 It's hard.

00:34:45.440 You've got a guy – you've got a hardest man in the world, Holman, there with Miller and Kristi Noem.

00:34:49.440 That's a pretty good team.

00:34:51.180 But the word mass deportations, Benzman, and you know this, when the resistance becomes huge is when – and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, is down in Central America cutting deals with the Central American countries.

00:35:06.320 And we're working on a deal, obviously, with Mexico.

00:35:08.680 But when you say they have to go, they're going to – CNN is going to have the camera right there on the crying babies and the crying mothers and, you know, hanging on for dear life.

00:35:18.620 And political polling numbers are going to jump around, and you're going to have the test.

00:35:25.400 So walk me through how this is going to happen.

00:35:27.480 You're the guy that identified the problem.

00:35:30.980 Truthfully, that problem, President Trump says, more than inflation, was the number one problem.

00:35:36.400 The number one issue he went on is exactly what Todd Benzman and the rest of the team have been here for four or five years talking about.

00:35:43.820 Now we're to the solutions, and the solutions are not easy.

00:35:48.020 None of this is easy.

00:35:49.580 That's why Trump's president.

00:35:51.460 So walk me through, in your mind, when you start – when you get to the deportations and mass deportations, how does this start playing out, given what you've seen so far in the days of thunder?

00:36:04.060 Start with 80 percent.

00:36:06.140 That's the polling numbers for support of deportation, mass deportation of criminal aliens.

00:36:15.140 Another 50-plus percent of Americans are in favor of deporting everybody else.

00:36:21.600 It's a little bit less than the criminals, of course.

00:36:24.560 The other side understands that it has to erode that support.

00:36:30.400 And the way that they're going to do it is through what I call injustice porn, which is the crying mothers and the babies when they finally get around to deporting the housekeepers and the lawnmowers and that sort of thing.

00:36:48.860 So when they get to that, you're going to see a real information war.

00:36:55.420 And I call that injustice porn because, first of all, most of the claims that you will see that will be made are going to be false.

00:37:05.960 It's like the Haitian – the border patrols guys on the horses with the horse reins whirling them around. 0.99

00:37:14.480 Oh, you whipped these poor Haitian men. 0.98

00:37:17.940 Not true. 0.65

00:37:18.660 Not true.

00:37:19.660 Or Ocasio-Cortez saying, oh, they're drinking – forcing these migrants to drink out of the toilet.

00:37:25.380 Not true.

00:37:26.660 All of those kind of cases, you're going to see that all again.

00:37:30.440 And it has to be called out immediately before the news cycles keep kind of ricocheting around the country and doing real damage, making public officials come out and actually take action in public policy.

00:37:47.900 So there has to be real information war countering it from the other side, countering the injustice porn that I call – I call it that.

00:37:57.900 I don't know what else to call it.

00:37:58.940 It's just all BS, women and children crying and claims of abuse.

00:38:06.120 So that's really how that's going to roll out.

00:38:08.400 Now, one thing I want to say is that the mass deportations are going to take time to build up because the machine was dismantled and left in pieces all over the garage.

00:38:22.540 And Holman and all those guys are all trying to piece it together as fast as they – that's why they did Guantanamo Bay.

00:38:28.700 They put that online because the Biden administration got rid of all the detention space.

00:38:34.520 They're down to 40,000 beds.

00:38:36.900 They almost doubled it with Guantanamo.

00:38:39.860 And now they've got to put military bases online and they've got to get ready for when they finally ramp up.

00:38:46.440 The other thing is there aren't as many ICE agents now.

00:38:49.760 They have to ramp up the number of feds that are out there doing these kind of operations. 0.99

00:38:55.800 And at some point, they're going to have to start going after the housekeepers and the people that have been here for 10 or 15 years.

00:39:03.280 They have removal orders on them.

00:39:04.680 It may take a couple of years, but they have to work up to it, be patient.

00:39:09.160 They're going to – with Holman in there, when he's in the driver's seat and the pilot's seat, you have to know that he's going to do everything he possibly can within the infrastructure constraints that he has to actually get those numbers up.

00:39:23.940 And I've heard that the president is demanding those numbers go up.

00:39:28.440 So you can rest assured that there is going to be pressure to get those numbers higher.

00:39:35.000 I can tell you the president of the United States, he wants to see – he loves what he's seen so far, but he wants – he's a guy – it's a mathematics guy.

00:39:40.880 He wants to see some numbers here.

00:39:41.820 It's not a correction, just an observation, Todd.

00:39:46.240 The 80 percent of the criminal aliens sent back home is obviously high, but it's not a small drop.

00:39:53.920 It's a pretty big drop down to the mid – I think the high 50s.

00:39:57.460 And that's what the left is counting on because they said there's no visuals to that.

00:40:01.660 They're going to show you visuals.

00:40:02.940 They're going to show you the injustice porn every second of every day and how MAGA is heartless. 1.00

00:40:09.880 President Trump is a dictator.

00:40:12.080 This is what the Germans – this is what Germany did in the 19th. 0.87

00:40:14.860 They're over and over and over again, just nonstop.

00:40:19.040 They'll be in the streets.

00:40:20.780 You saw this weekend.

00:40:21.780 What do you take – what you saw just at the little ice activity in Los Angeles?

00:40:26.320 You had these pretty mass demonstrations with burning the American flag and waving the Mexican flag, sir.

00:40:33.920 We're going to see a whole lot of that.

00:40:35.580 That's going to be part of the fabric of living in America for the next four years.

00:40:41.340 You're going to see a lot of that sort of thing, and it will probably gain momentum and numbers as we go from criminal aliens to non-criminals, which we will do.

00:40:54.160 But, you know, it is what it is.

00:40:56.800 So I don't think that – you know, listen, Trump is not running for reelection, and I don't think he cares, really.

00:41:05.580 I don't think he cares, and nor maybe should he care if that's his agenda and he wants his agenda to succeed.

00:41:13.940 I think a lot of Americans will back him on that.

00:41:16.740 Well, a lot of Americans – but the war and posse, this is going to be a test.

00:41:23.180 This is going to be a time of testing because, Todd, in the best case, it's going – people got to gird themselves.

00:41:29.960 It's going to take years to do this.

00:41:31.500 When you have – my estimate is 10 to 12 million that are here just on Biden's watch.

00:41:36.400 That's my number.

00:41:37.160 I don't think anybody – we shouldn't focus on anybody beforehand, just focus on who Biden let in.

00:41:42.920 But at those numbers, at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 million, just understand the logistics of it.

00:41:49.420 It takes a while, does it not, sir?

00:41:51.860 Yeah, it's going to take a while to get up there.

00:41:54.200 I mean, look, Barack Obama, they called him the deporter-in-chief, and he was moving about a million two, a million four a year out.

00:42:03.420 And I think the goal should be to, you know, top that.

00:42:06.160 They're going to have to top that if they want to reverse the damage that was done in just the last three or four years.

00:42:12.660 So they're going to have to – they're going to have to ramp up.

00:42:15.280 But there's a lot more coming.

00:42:17.160 I can tell you that.

00:42:18.080 There's a lot more coming.

00:42:19.980 What do you mean a lot more coming?

00:42:22.880 A lot more coming across?

00:42:25.220 No, there's a lot more coming.

00:42:27.320 A lot more resources coming.

00:42:30.260 And I mean money –

00:42:31.160 Okay, don't.

00:42:32.520 But this audience wants to say a lot more coming.

00:42:34.620 You're saying more resources.

00:42:35.640 What do you mean by that?

00:42:36.620 More money?

00:42:37.380 This is why the reconciliation bills – I said you have to have two.

00:42:41.100 We've got to get the border one done now, now, now, because they don't have the money.

00:42:44.980 Even in the budget that they have to do by the 14th to keep the government open, resources have to be reallocated.

00:42:51.780 Homan needs some backup on this, and it's going to cost some money.

00:42:54.320 Is it not, sir?

00:42:55.360 It is.

00:42:55.980 This is not going to be cheap.

00:42:57.560 It's a long war.

00:42:59.620 So they're going to have to have Congress. 1.00

00:43:02.700 They supposedly have this trifecta.

00:43:05.260 They're going to need to exploit that trifecta to the max while they can.

00:43:10.680 So, you know, they already got a big piece of legislation in, unbelievably.

00:43:16.740 Like, within a week, they had a bill signed, the Lake and Riley Act.

00:43:21.960 And I think that they – I mean, to me, that foretells some more legislation that they're going to need.

00:43:31.040 They need money, they need aircraft, they need people, they need bed space.

00:43:36.960 So to keep that pressure on down there and on the interior as well.

00:43:41.760 When you say trifecta, you mean we have the executive branch of the White House and both the Senate and the House.

00:43:49.480 Yeah.

00:43:49.820 What about the courts?

00:43:51.680 I know it's then.

00:43:52.920 I got that.

00:43:53.520 What about the courts?

00:43:54.500 Where are the courts going to come down on this?

00:43:56.200 Because they're going to go to court on everything.

00:43:59.000 They're going to go to court on everything.

00:44:00.700 And you've got a bunch of these liberal judges, particularly at the lowest level.

00:44:04.880 What's going to happen here?

00:44:06.560 That all works the same way every time.

00:44:09.500 I mean, that just cycles in and out.

00:44:11.680 You're already seeing it, you know, filing in the Ninth Circuit, right, to stop this or that policy.

00:44:18.840 And then appeals to go to the Supreme Court or filings in the Fifth Circuit, the conservative Fifth Circuit, mostly conservative Fifth Circuit.

00:44:28.420 And, you know, birthright citizenship is a great example.

00:44:34.600 They knew that was going to court right away.

00:44:37.380 They crafted the thing to make it to the Supreme Court.

00:44:41.600 And there it is, you know, a couple dozen lawsuits right off the bat.

00:44:45.540 You're going to see a lot of litigation.

00:44:47.220 I don't think we've even started on the litigation.

00:44:52.800 Lots of different.

00:44:54.500 For example.

00:44:55.020 Yeah, it's going to be huge.

00:44:56.500 Yep.

00:44:56.920 Go ahead.

00:44:58.760 Well, I was going to say, you know, one of the key tools that the administration is using here is called 212F of the INA.

00:45:08.760 And I've talked about 212F here I don't know how many times, but it's just a number.

00:45:13.980 It's a piece of the INA that allows a president to, for whatever reason they feel like, woke up in a bad mood that day,

00:45:22.960 they're going to block and return all illegal alien crossers for whatever reason they feel like, you know, for the national interest for the most part. 0.82

00:45:33.700 And they're using that.

00:45:35.680 But it's complicated legally.

00:45:38.680 There have been some cases about it, and so they're going to try to knock that down.

00:45:43.140 So they brought in Remain in Mexico, which is, we all know, that's already vetted all the way to the Supreme Court.

00:45:49.700 That means you could push back anybody you want and make them wait in Mexico for their asylum claim.

00:45:54.820 So they've got to back up to the backup.

00:45:57.460 They kind of know what they're doing this time around.

00:46:00.660 Trump 1.0 got bogged down right away.

00:46:04.220 They couldn't do anything.

00:46:05.500 They couldn't even build the wall because they were so litigated.

00:46:10.900 And it lasted for so long that the immigrants down there were like, wait a minute, the door's open. 0.99

00:46:16.220 Let's run for it.

00:46:17.160 And they did until they were able to wrassle that down to the Madigan.

00:46:22.320 I don't think that's going to happen this time.

00:46:24.380 And one of the great things about the tariff threat in Mexico is that Mexico is a key choke point.

00:46:32.100 And having 10,000 troops up there blocking and returning migrants back south and all that is like extra layering and buffer for the whole agenda. 0.71

00:46:43.900 I think they've got multiple things going on all at the same time that are going to keep that pressure on down there.

00:46:50.360 And keep them clearing out of the interior as well.

00:46:54.880 Todd, where do people go to get your writings, everything you're putting up, great stuff every day?

00:47:00.960 You're more focused on this than ever.

00:47:02.600 And we haven't, folks, given where we've come, given how we identified the problem, and Todd and the guys put their lives in line to do it, it's been amazing.

00:47:11.480 President Trump is number one issue.

00:47:12.820 You've already said, you just heard from Todd, the border looks like he's getting secured.

00:47:17.120 Now the fentanyl situation.

00:47:18.700 Now comes the hard part.

00:47:20.900 As I say, all 10 to 12 million got to go home.

00:47:24.340 Marco Rubio is down there trying to cut deals on it, but all 10 to 12 million got to go home.

00:47:28.640 Have to.

00:47:29.100 If you don't do it, you're just asking for next time.

00:47:32.240 People are going to say, well, holy, let those guys stay.

00:47:34.280 I'll slip in you, let me stay.

00:47:37.180 Because it's not going to be as secure.

00:47:39.200 That border is never going to be as secured as it is right now with President Trump.

00:47:42.940 Maybe other people make changes in the future, but right now you've got a sealed border.

00:47:46.720 Todd, where do folks get you?

00:47:48.720 Because now we're starting the grind.

00:47:50.820 Where do they go?

00:47:52.540 That's right.

00:47:52.960 Well, the new piece, what's happening in Mexico, is up right now at CIS.org, CIS, Center for Immigration Studies.org.

00:48:01.760 That's my employer, think tank.

00:48:04.100 And you can find me on social media, you know, Benzman Todd on X.

00:48:09.000 I'm on Getter.

00:48:10.140 I'm on Truth Social.

00:48:11.200 And also, I just wanted to mention that I will be speaking February 12th at Women of Washington in Seattle.

00:48:21.560 That's going to be at the – I can't read this, but go to Women of Washington.

00:48:31.500 Sorry.

00:48:32.800 Women of Washington.

00:48:33.920 You're right.

00:48:37.460 He's sleepy.

00:48:38.500 You're going to go take a nap after this.

00:48:40.700 Remind me never to book Benzman in the afternoon show.

00:48:43.840 In the morning, he's on fire.

00:48:45.940 You get up and it's that Warpath coffee.

00:48:47.540 You get that Warpath coffee in the Field of Greens.

00:48:49.740 You're ready to go.

00:48:51.240 Late in the afternoon, I get sleepy Todd.

00:48:54.300 Hold it.

00:48:54.720 Where are you going to speak?

00:48:55.620 The reason – hold it.

00:48:56.500 Where do you speak?

00:48:57.900 Because the War of Posse all comes up afterwards.

00:49:00.820 All I hear is Todd Benzman here.

00:49:02.400 We love him.

00:49:02.960 They show me the photos, all of it.

00:49:04.960 So it's a War of Posse crowd.

00:49:06.620 They want to know where you're speaking.

00:49:09.440 Over Lake Golf and Country Club.

00:49:11.840 And feel free to disagree with Ben in there as to whether or not it's all that sleepy.

00:49:17.300 Posse.

00:49:18.100 And I hope there's some MAGA up in Seattle.

00:49:20.140 Is there MAGA up in Seattle?

00:49:21.620 I think there's MAGA.

00:49:22.140 Hell yeah, man.

00:49:23.180 What are you talking?

00:49:23.800 There's MAGA up there and there's Warren Posse up there.

00:49:25.820 One more time.

00:49:26.380 Where are you going to speak?

00:49:28.040 Over Lake Golf and Country Club, February 12th, Women of Washington in Seattle.

00:49:33.880 Okay.

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00:49:35.480 And Todd Benzman.

00:49:36.060 Todd, thank you so much.

00:49:37.120 Appreciate you.

00:49:38.300 Appreciate it.

00:49:38.580 I'm speaking on the 28th down in Tarrant County.

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00:51:02.400 the idea that broke the world.

00:51:03.600 Okay, I'll be up on social media all night tonight or most of the night.

00:51:10.920 There's so much going on.

00:51:12.660 We're trying to pack every show.

00:51:15.180 Fantastic assessment where we are with Mexico, where we are with the number one issue before us, which is the invasion of our country. 0.99

00:51:21.620 I don't know.

00:51:22.200 I'd probably put the out-of-control debt in spending.

00:51:25.920 We're going to try to turf out some folks to talk about it.

00:51:30.180 The Senate, I think, is moving on to reconciliation bills.

00:51:34.320 I keep saying, hey, the reconciliation bill is great.

00:51:36.180 You've got to get it.

00:51:37.400 But at midnight on the 14th, the government doesn't have any money.

00:51:40.780 I certainly hope we don't do a one-year CR.

00:51:44.100 I think President Trump deserves better than that.

00:51:47.740 I hope somebody's, you know, laboring late at night on this, just saying.

00:51:53.480 We'll get down to all of it tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time, when you will be back in the war room.

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00:52:03.100 The MAGA movement is the personification of the right stuff.

00:52:07.080 See you tomorrow.

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Bannon's War Room - February 06, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 702： Keeping Your Foot On The Gas With Deportations

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