Bannon's War Room - February 07, 2025


Episode 4252： White House Creates The Trump Faith Office; Building A Christian Coalition


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

168.8794

Word Count

9,519

Sentence Count

777

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

Stephen K. Bannon and Lance Wallnau join me in the War Room at the White House for a special edition of the Real Talk Network's Sunday Voice with Stephen K. Bannon to discuss the latest in the Trump administration and how evangelicals can work with President Trump.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I'm also creating the White House Faith Office, led by Pastor Paula White, who is so amazing.
00:00:09.120 To confront such weaponization and religious persecution, today I'm signing an executive
00:00:14.500 order to make our Attorney General, who's a great person, she's going to be a great
00:00:19.600 Attorney General, Pam Bondi, the head of a task force, brand new, to eradicate anti-Christian
00:00:29.440 bias, about time, right, anti-Christian bias.
00:00:36.080 It's a concept that actually Jesus talks about in the Sermon on the Mount, and I'm only bringing
00:00:42.200 this up, it's not preaching, this is just reporting on if you're going to the prayer breakfast
00:00:47.420 and you're saying Democrats are godless heathen, and you don't even understand that Jesus is
00:00:55.400 one of the first things that we learn in Matthew on the Sermon on the Mount, is that you pray
00:01:02.940 for your enemies, you pray for those who want to persecute you, blessed are the merciful,
00:01:09.860 for they shall be shown mercy.
00:01:11.580 When you're asked to forgive, you're asked to forgive 70 times 7, that's like the perfect
00:01:18.580 number.
00:01:19.580 So, that lies at the heart of Jesus's ministry.
00:01:25.820 And so, I just remember when Nancy Pelosi talked about, when Nancy Pelosi talked about
00:01:33.420 praying for Donald Trump, he said, oh, that's, that's, nobody, nobody believes that, how could
00:01:38.040 you, how could you ever do that?
00:01:39.640 He's also a man who has said that he's never had to ask God for forgiveness either.
00:01:44.800 So, again, what one does at the prayer conference, when, prayer breakfast, when one is president
00:01:53.820 of the United States, obviously is up to them.
00:01:56.780 I would say, though, just a recommendation, if you're trying to bring the country together,
00:02:02.600 you can pass on the whole Democrats are godless Marxists, because, yeah, maybe, maybe the most
00:02:10.120 intense of the base believe it, but it's kind of hard to spread that message at the same
00:02:16.200 time you're destroying PEPFAR, at the same time you're destroying all these other aid efforts
00:02:24.640 that were actually inspired by religious organizations and presidents' belief in Jesus Christ and the
00:02:32.460 need that we needed to help the poorest among us.
00:02:36.500 And so, interesting time to be delivering that message.
00:02:40.440 Let's hope, again, a page is turned, hope springs eternal.
00:02:45.880 Let us hope that, that the two sides can figure out how to get along.
00:02:51.100 And that starts by one side, not calling the other side godless heathens.
00:02:57.780 Just a suggestion, just a suggestion.
00:03:00.240 That may not be the best way forward.
00:03:02.460 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:03:09.520 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:03:14.740 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:03:19.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:03:20.920 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:03:22.340 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:03:25.040 It's going to happen.
00:03:26.280 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:03:28.980 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:03:36.500 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:03:39.640 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:03:46.700 War Room.
00:03:47.440 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:03:49.520 Bannon.
00:03:49.880 It's Friday, 7th February in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:03:59.020 So, obviously, it's a day of thunder here in the War Room at the White House in the Trump second term.
00:04:08.220 We'll get to all of it.
00:04:10.540 Economics, DOGE, deconstruction of the administrative state, all of it.
00:04:15.360 But the last 48 hours have been quite important as far as driving the demons out of the federal government
00:04:23.160 and stalling the righteous.
00:04:26.120 I want to start with Lance Wallnau, a guy I've known, Lance, for years.
00:04:30.840 I can say this as probably one of the nicest guys I've ever met, low-key, just a gentleman.
00:04:37.060 Actually, maybe more controversial than Stephen K. Bannon, I can say that.
00:04:40.640 Lance, you've got a show here on Real America's Voice on Sunday.
00:04:43.840 You've always been a big part of this network.
00:04:45.320 The executive order, so Pam Bondi's executive order, she's working on a task force to make sure anti-Christianity,
00:04:55.040 going after Christians as a federal government.
00:04:57.120 She's leading a task force of major department heads.
00:04:59.460 She'll head it up as attorney general.
00:05:01.860 Then today, there's a whole other initiative on faith.
00:05:05.120 One of the evangelical leaders will be there.
00:05:07.960 Put it in perspective.
00:05:08.760 You are identified, I think, in the mainstream media, and I think rightly, as one of the co-founders or leaders
00:05:16.120 of what we refer to as the Christian nationalist movement.
00:05:20.820 So, one, what is Christian nationalism?
00:05:24.120 Why is it kind of a rising movement?
00:05:27.260 And what's your perspective on what President Trump has done in the last 48 hours, sir?
00:05:33.800 Good question.
00:05:34.740 Well, the first thing is a Christian nationalist is nothing more than a nationalist.
00:05:37.760 That's a common-sense American who wants their country to have boundaries and protect their culture
00:05:43.680 and not be assimilated by the Borg or by Davos or by communism.
00:05:48.460 Every country that's intelligent and healthy doesn't want to be assimilated.
00:05:52.180 So we're nationalists.
00:05:53.140 And we're Christians.
00:05:54.060 We believe that there is a God who is the ultimate value system.
00:05:57.940 If you don't have that, you have some goofy system that mutilates children and calls it a transgender ideology.
00:06:04.700 So, yeah, we have – so it's really nationalist Christians.
00:06:08.300 But the left gave us white Christian nationalists because –
00:06:11.700 are Jewish, but – so here I am the leader of the movement.
00:06:22.580 But the thing about this –
00:06:24.520 Yeah, can we should we reboot – Lance, Lance, hang for – Lance, we're going to reboot you.
00:06:28.720 You froze on your end.
00:06:29.860 I want to make sure this is clear because it's quite important.
00:06:31.920 Let's go ahead and reboot Lance.
00:06:33.100 This will be one they'll play on MSNBC forever, so I'm going to make sure they get it right.
00:06:38.320 We're going to reboot Lance.
00:06:40.320 Well, now, two things happening – actually, three.
00:06:43.600 There's so much happening in the days of thunder, you've got to make sure every night we kind of go through it.
00:06:47.560 Number one, President Trump, it was a – there was this executive order yesterday setting up a task force,
00:06:55.640 Pam Bondi, over at the Justice Department.
00:06:58.080 And she's already fired off the football at the Justice Department.
00:07:01.400 I mean, Pam went over there after she was – after she was confirmed and then sworn in, went over to Maine Justice.
00:07:08.580 She's on fire already.
00:07:10.160 As you know, a number of people on an interim basis like Emil Bovey, others very close to the president,
00:07:16.860 are there and already in place, and they're driving down the thing.
00:07:21.060 I think the first thing she's going to do, and we'll talk about it a little later,
00:07:23.180 has worked through some of these issues on sanctuary cities and with getting folks out.
00:07:29.940 So that task force on making sure there's no anti-Christian bias and no bias about individual Christians is quite powerful.
00:07:39.380 Pam, as you know, is a devout Christian, and she's going to lead that effort
00:07:45.160 because, as you know, it's gotten out of control in the federal government.
00:07:49.780 And today they're going to announce a faith office.
00:07:52.760 Paula White, the evangelical preacher, is going to be there with President Trump.
00:07:56.960 We will cover that on Real America's Voice.
00:08:00.140 There'll be a signing of that and a big announcement of that.
00:08:02.840 Also, the Japanese prime minister's in town.
00:08:06.060 There's going to be a joint press conference.
00:08:07.560 I think there'll be a press avail also.
00:08:09.620 We will cover the press availability, I think, from the Oval Office of President Trump
00:08:13.480 because, you know, President Trump, he calls audibles all the time.
00:08:15.840 He's going to have a bilateral with the Japanese foreign minister.
00:08:20.540 He's then going to have, I think, a press avail, and the Oval will go live there.
00:08:25.520 Brian Glenn is over at the White House.
00:08:28.120 They're then going to have a formal press conference like you had with Bibi.
00:08:31.840 You know, those press conferences, the formal ones get to be, you know, even wilder than the press avails.
00:08:39.180 So we'll also cover that.
00:08:40.360 That's going to be from the East Room.
00:08:41.460 The president's leaving early, heading to Mar-a-Lago, and we've got Jane Zirkle will be in the press pool there
00:08:50.660 to make sure she gets a couple of questions in if the president takes questions, which I assume he is.
00:08:55.520 You saw right there at the end we wanted to play Morning Joe because Morning Joe went to the Gospel of Matthew.
00:09:03.720 What did I say all the time when people come up to me saying we're praying for you
00:09:06.820 and sent the cards into Danbury, which I asked you not to send, but obviously some got through.
00:09:11.780 The key is I always say pray for our enemies, right?
00:09:15.120 Pray for your enemies first.
00:09:16.800 And I disagree with Joe Scarborough.
00:09:21.120 The federal government had gotten demonic.
00:09:24.800 There are people in the government that hate Christians, that hate Christianity, have gone to thwart it.
00:09:29.860 And you can't look at USAID.
00:09:32.520 USAID, of everything that Doge is doing right now, USAID may be the most profound.
00:09:38.280 That's come from years and years and years of the Eli Cranes and the MTGs and the Matt Gaetzes
00:09:43.260 and people that came before them going after USAID.
00:09:47.820 Who stopped them?
00:09:48.960 Not just the Democrats.
00:09:50.140 It was the establishment Republicans.
00:09:51.920 It was very, very difficult to even get at a committee with even review it.
00:09:56.040 Paul Ryan and these guys would not let people get into it, not let people review it.
00:09:59.960 And I think one of the things that the Elon Musk effort has done has frozen the establishment Republicans in place.
00:10:07.560 So a lot going on today.
00:10:10.020 I wanted Lance on here because Lance, although he has a show here on Real America's Voice,
00:10:15.680 is, and I think Lance is back up.
00:10:17.700 Let's see if it works, is one of the more controversial guys in the country.
00:10:20.640 And Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, Steve Bannon, there's many others that refer to themselves as Christian nationalists.
00:10:28.320 And it's Lance's definitions.
00:10:30.180 We're populist nationalists that also happen to be Christians, given all our failings.
00:10:37.520 So Lance, how do you take President Trump's, you know, they're there mocking him on Morning Joe,
00:10:42.580 that he's so imperfect and, you know, he's not really a Christian and he doesn't go to church and he doesn't pray.
00:10:48.440 Put it in perspective, are President Trump actually signing these, creating this task force to make sure we purge the anti-Christian?
00:10:56.740 Go ahead, sir.
00:10:57.300 President Trump is such a perfect instrument.
00:10:59.920 I mean, God couldn't have a greater sense of humor than wrapping President Trump in the mantle of a reformer for Christianity.
00:11:08.080 Because the left doesn't know how to handle it.
00:11:10.140 If Mike Huckabee said, we're bringing prayer back in the public school, they'd have a meltdown.
00:11:14.620 If Ted Cruz says, we're going after all the anti-Christians, they'd say it's his religion.
00:11:20.120 But in our case, what we have is Donald Trump.
00:11:23.160 They can't accuse him of being a Christian religious zealot because nobody believes he's a religious guy.
00:11:29.220 He's perfect for this job.
00:11:31.160 He's, and when he's talking about this persecution, there's real stuff going on.
00:11:35.520 It isn't in the news cycle.
00:11:36.660 Let me give you an example that I'm talking about, Steve.
00:11:38.480 Idaho National Guard is exposed today for having no Christians in command as a policy.
00:11:45.740 Imagine that.
00:11:46.820 Major David Worley was removed from command for simply opposing drag shows in libraries.
00:11:52.740 His crime was that he believed the Bible.
00:11:55.440 The bombshell is General James Packwood created policy requiring religious belief screening for all Guard members.
00:12:04.020 So you're going to see this as ubiquitous within the government, a hostility, and it's political because so many evangelicals and pro-life Catholics are voting conservative, that this is their way of clawing them out of the system.
00:12:18.120 It's part of the DEI mischief of get the white evangelicals and Catholics out and move in other underrepresented people.
00:12:26.920 And Trump is rectifying that expeditiously.
00:12:32.520 So that, you know, this is, it's not going to stop here.
00:12:35.380 Paula White is, she's got a big office there and a big opportunity.
00:12:40.080 But the other thing I want to say is President Trump at a prayer breakfast is hilarious.
00:12:44.640 This guy, I would go to Vegas, I'd pay to watch him because it's a high wire act.
00:12:49.220 He's in a different environment than a typical Trump thing.
00:12:53.500 And he navigates it.
00:12:54.800 I've watched him every year.
00:12:56.940 I remember the second year he did the prayer breakfast.
00:12:59.360 He opens with telling people to pray for Arnold Schwarzenegger because his ratings were so low on The Apprentice.
00:13:05.520 My wife was horrified.
00:13:06.600 It was hilarious.
00:13:07.960 The guy, he has an unreligious side that makes Scarborough look like a Pharisee.
00:13:13.620 And that's the thing that is great about his Christianity.
00:13:16.980 Trump is authentic.
00:13:18.620 What you see is what you get.
00:13:19.900 With Scarborough and those guys, you're getting some kind of a sanitized, weird Russell Moore version of bought-off, rent-evangelical Christianity.
00:13:29.480 By the way, not every verse with Jesus is all about turning the other cheek.
00:13:33.460 He insulted his enemies left and right.
00:13:35.400 That's how come he was crucified.
00:13:37.100 That's my rant.
00:13:37.800 Lance, hang on for one second.
00:13:42.660 I want to come back.
00:13:43.280 I want to take a short commercial break.
00:13:44.400 I want to come back.
00:13:45.000 I want to ask you about what you hope to see come out of the task force.
00:13:48.460 Will you help assist Pam Bondi and also the new faith office, what you hope for out there?
00:13:53.820 Because you're obviously one of the more powerful voices in this movement.
00:13:57.920 I think people want to know what you think of both of them and how we can collectively help because they're both important.
00:14:03.540 And President Trump went out of his way to ascertain and to actually say they're important by doing them two different days.
00:14:10.140 One's the task force to make sure the government has no more anti-Christian bias and no more bias about individual Christians.
00:14:17.320 They're two different things, and both are very important.
00:14:20.320 Then the faith office being stopped today.
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00:16:45.760 Okay, I've got Dave Brett.
00:16:47.960 Back to Lance in a minute.
00:16:49.420 Dave, go through actually what President Trump has said and how important this is to him,
00:16:53.760 and I want to set this up for Lance to come in and make commentary.
00:16:56.900 What do you got?
00:16:58.560 Yeah, Lance was great on the nationalism, and I just want to add for morning Joe and Mika.
00:17:04.940 Hey, Joe, did God intend for there to be nations?
00:17:08.200 Just answer that.
00:17:09.000 It's a yes or no question, or is this whole thing a mistake?
00:17:11.480 I know the globalists don't like nations, so let's hear from President Trump.
00:17:15.580 His most recent comments, his heart changed after the assassination attempt.
00:17:21.300 Here's President Donald Trump by the last couple days at the National Prayer Breakfast.
00:17:26.500 Quote, these are all quotes.
00:17:27.700 From the earliest days of our republic, faith in God has always been the ultimate source of the strength that beats in the heart of our nation.
00:17:35.940 Wow.
00:17:37.200 We have to bring religion back.
00:17:39.280 We have to bring it back much stronger.
00:17:41.400 There's Trump.
00:17:42.540 It's one of the biggest problems that we've had over the last fairly long period of time, which I would define as post-World War II.
00:17:51.020 It's been a downhill decline.
00:17:52.280 We have to bring it back.
00:17:53.440 Deep in the soul of every patriot is the knowledge that God has a special plan, glorious mission for America, and that plan is going to happen.
00:18:00.400 It's going to happen.
00:18:01.720 Quote, it's his, God's hand that guides us every single step of the way.
00:18:05.900 Just steps away from here in the Hall of Columns is the statue of John Winthrop, who famously proclaimed America would stand as a city upon a hill,
00:18:15.220 a light to all nations with the eyes of all people upon us, which is clearly true.
00:18:20.780 Continuing, today, almost 400 years after that famous sermon, we see that with the Lord's help, the city stands taller and shines brighter than ever before.
00:18:30.120 At least it will soon.
00:18:32.080 That's great.
00:18:33.360 So you never know.
00:18:34.680 But God did that.
00:18:35.620 He's talking about his assassination.
00:18:37.420 I mean, it had to be, referencing God saved him.
00:18:40.520 It had to be that way.
00:18:41.440 But it changed something in me.
00:18:43.080 I feel.
00:18:44.240 I feel even stronger.
00:18:46.100 I believed in God, but I feel much more strongly about it.
00:18:49.240 Something happened.
00:18:49.900 You can just hear him saying it, right?
00:18:51.560 It's real, like Walnut was saying.
00:18:52.760 It's real.
00:18:53.740 We have to make religion a much more important factor now.
00:18:56.860 We have to make it an important factor.
00:18:59.120 And if we do that, it's going to be, our job is just going to be much easier.
00:19:02.080 It unifies people.
00:19:03.880 It brings people together.
00:19:04.940 Democrats are going to be able to have lunch again, dinner with Republicans.
00:19:08.020 So let's bring back religion.
00:19:09.400 Let's bring God back into our lives.
00:19:11.900 Wow.
00:19:12.700 Okay, Joe, there you go.
00:19:14.200 There's Brother Trump going at it yesterday.
00:19:17.080 Do you forgive 70 times 7, Joe, or not really?
00:19:23.120 Exactly.
00:19:23.840 Hang on for a second, Dave Brett.
00:19:24.980 So, Lance, given the cathartic moment that President Trump had about the assassination
00:19:29.400 and what you can tell how deeply he believes this is a moment divine providence saved him for this further work,
00:19:38.560 how is that work manifested in the task force?
00:19:41.300 How does it manifest in the faith office, and what would be the role for people like yourselves that are, I think,
00:19:47.460 much more upfront about we've got to get back to the belief in the Judeo-Christian West,
00:19:53.460 and we've particularly got to get back in the belief of Christianity, sir?
00:19:56.700 Well, here it is, Steve.
00:19:58.280 And so this is the reason why they don't like me, because I'm very specific about what we've got to do.
00:20:03.140 America is the land of revivals, the first Great Awakening, second Great Awakening.
00:20:08.460 We're even talking now that we believe we're in a third Great Awakening.
00:20:11.720 We've never had a Reformation.
00:20:13.500 Think of that.
00:20:14.660 Steve Bannon, we are now having a Reformation.
00:20:17.800 Europe has had Reformations.
00:20:19.320 Germany's had them.
00:20:20.220 England has had them.
00:20:21.220 But never the United States.
00:20:23.120 Reformation is different than simply a religious renaissance.
00:20:27.580 It's the recapturing of institutions.
00:20:30.680 Oh, this is what makes the left go crazy when I say these things.
00:20:33.720 It's the recapturing of education, of media, of business, of government.
00:20:40.720 And it's recapturing them with the ideas of Western civilization, which is the ideas of Christian civilization.
00:20:47.940 And the moment that you bring those powers to bear and you start being accepted to be a Christian,
00:20:54.780 you look at the press conference that she's wearing a cross like Mike Lindell now.
00:20:58.880 And I'm looking up at her and I'm saying, my God, it's cool.
00:21:02.340 It's OK to be a Christian again because Christians could only be in business for themselves.
00:21:07.380 Ask Dave Brat.
00:21:08.280 We're a big enterprise people.
00:21:10.680 Why?
00:21:10.920 Because you can't work for a corporation.
00:21:12.620 The moment you're outed at the Christmas party because you're a holy roller, you kind of get pushed to the side.
00:21:18.720 And there's no Christian presence in academia.
00:21:21.420 Oh, boy, I want to see us expand this to why it is that professors are being deprived opportunities to get on campuses to talk to students because they're evangelical or because of their strong pro-life history on social media.
00:21:36.960 Now, it's much bigger.
00:21:38.260 What we're doing now, we've got a foothold with Paula White.
00:21:42.320 But the expansion of that has got to be the underrepresented Christian population, which is over half the United States, in all sectors of what we call the high places of culture or the mountaintops of culture.
00:21:58.220 That's my thought.
00:21:59.420 We're a big believer here.
00:22:00.720 And we say all the time about seize the institution.
00:22:03.580 You have to seize the institutions.
00:22:04.940 How would you propose to use both these, the task force and the new faith office, to seize the institutions of the federal government?
00:22:14.660 There are three arteries that make this happen.
00:22:18.380 Legislation, litigation, and the shaping of public opinion.
00:22:22.420 Thank God for you, Steve Bannon, because people like you, as long as we can shape the public opinion, the secret sauce is you've got to work with the awakening that's happening.
00:22:31.340 And move with it in such a way that you litigate and you legislate, but never get too far ahead of public persuasion.
00:22:39.700 That's why Lincoln had to wait for the perfect timing for the Emancipation Proclamation.
00:22:43.500 He couldn't do it prematurely.
00:22:45.120 He needed a victory at Antietam.
00:22:47.140 So what we have to do is we have, we preachers have got to stop being weak and wimpy.
00:22:52.460 Take a page from Donald Trump.
00:22:54.340 Have an opinion.
00:22:55.500 People go to church to get a perspective.
00:22:57.720 Have one.
00:22:58.260 And if we'll lead, if the churches will begin to resonate as the conscience of culture, rather than as the statesmen trying to market Jesus, we will see an unprecedented movement of the Spirit of God at a grassroots level.
00:23:15.500 Awakening is grassroots.
00:23:17.560 Reformation is institutional.
00:23:19.900 Legislation, litigation, and the shaping of public opinion.
00:23:23.020 And while Paula White has to be careful what she says in public, I believe I might have learned that from her.
00:23:32.780 Talk, the second one.
00:23:34.140 Legislation, we see working on that, obviously shaping public opinion.
00:23:38.120 We would call it information warfare, but we're there.
00:23:40.580 On litigation, give me your top one or two things you think we have to litigate now in order to clean out the underbrush.
00:23:47.240 Well, right now you've got a case in front of the Supreme Court, Steve, which is going to be decided in April.
00:23:53.180 A very critical one.
00:23:54.020 It has to do with whether Catholics have the right to charter schools.
00:23:59.080 And we need to really bang the pots and pans on this, because public sentiment has a tendency to shape a little bit that Washington area, which for some reason we send in conservatives.
00:24:09.920 And over time, they degrade and erode.
00:24:11.720 So we have to be very strong on this.
00:24:14.340 If Christians can have access to their tax dollars to be able to have their own competing schools, we're going to see a whole upgrade in what takes place.
00:24:25.480 We've got to take the government control of education away from the unions and the left.
00:24:35.580 That's a huge battle.
00:24:37.380 That's a Supreme Court-level battle, but it's a public persuasion battle as well.
00:24:41.220 And it's probably going to end up having states have to do some legislation in order to work with this.
00:24:49.620 Lance, you've got the show here on Real America Voice on Sunday.
00:24:52.780 Where do people go to get all your content?
00:24:54.460 You're putting stuff up all the time.
00:24:55.700 You're doing podcasts.
00:24:56.580 Where do they go to get everything?
00:24:57.820 Because I think this is a topic we need to drill down on.
00:25:01.280 I think we need every week to make sure we drill down in more depth about what Christian nationalism is and where it's headed,
00:25:08.220 because the left clearly fears this and they're trying to smear everybody associated with it.
00:25:13.600 So where do folks go?
00:25:15.220 Yeah, thank you.
00:25:15.960 I'm glad that you see that because they recognize this is the ideological power that can actually sweep them permanently out of position.
00:25:25.360 LanceWallnow.com forward slash podcast.
00:25:27.600 We try to keep up with you and Dave Brat every day.
00:25:32.180 And, you know, I'm on the X account.
00:25:35.720 And you guys like you have so dominated Getter.
00:25:38.220 I'm trying to exist over there.
00:25:40.060 But maybe you could shout me a hello because I'm trying to feel you took it over.
00:25:45.060 You made it hard for me to exist over there.
00:25:47.680 Anyway, that's where we're at.
00:25:49.340 No, no, no, no.
00:25:50.200 I tell you how much they fear the concept of Christian nationalism and dominionism is that Lance Wallnau is one of the finest gentlemen I know.
00:26:00.960 And if you just read left-wing media, you think literally you're a horned devil.
00:26:05.220 I mean, it's pretty amazing.
00:26:06.720 So, Lance, we want to make sure we get you plenty of exposure and provide a platform for you.
00:26:10.640 Thank you, my dear brother.
00:26:12.100 Continue doing what you do, which is agitate the devil every day.
00:26:17.480 Thank you, sir.
00:26:18.580 That's easy.
00:26:19.220 Thank you, Lance Wallnau.
00:26:21.000 So, Brat, Christian nationalism.
00:26:26.820 Lance's definition of that is that we're populist nationalists and, you know, the Josh Hawleys and the Tom Cottons and the Steve Bannons of the world.
00:26:33.680 So you're nationalists and you have deep belief in the Christian faith.
00:26:37.640 Your thoughts, sir?
00:26:40.600 You know, I agree with Lance.
00:26:43.080 That was a great setup.
00:26:44.080 I would broaden it even further.
00:26:46.260 The Judeo-Christian West is basically the synthesis of the Greek, Greek reason, and the Judeo-Christian religious tradition.
00:26:57.240 And so the nation has always been a part of that.
00:27:01.340 The idea of being a Christian nationalist is just redundant, right?
00:27:05.540 It's the history of the West.
00:27:07.520 And he brought up the Reformation and Westphalia.
00:27:10.760 You bring up Westphalia, the beginning of the nation-state.
00:27:13.580 A true reformation is always grassroots.
00:27:18.180 And that's what's happening, thanks to thought leaders.
00:27:20.420 It's just like the budget.
00:27:21.780 The elites don't want to move on it.
00:27:23.360 But if the base wants to move on it, it's going to move.
00:27:26.940 And religion right now, there is an awakening happening.
00:27:30.020 The young folks are getting really involved.
00:27:33.900 The people sense now that there's a new sense of liberation.
00:27:36.980 The First Amendment, you know, what we've done wrong, what Lance was getting at, if you spend any money on anything, the federal government says, hey, we're spending money on this.
00:27:47.160 Religion cannot be involved.
00:27:49.220 That's the basic principle we have to fight back against.
00:27:52.340 And so nationalism, it's the history of the West.
00:27:56.420 It's what we have.
00:27:57.760 We've been losing it in the last 40 years.
00:28:00.060 We need to take it back.
00:28:01.220 And I think that's what's going on right now.
00:28:05.180 Dave, just hang on for one second.
00:28:06.560 I get some things I want to talk about on the other side.
00:28:10.200 Billy Joe Shaver, Get Thee Behind Me, Satan, takes us out.
00:28:15.040 We're going to be back in the warm in just a moment.
00:28:16.760 Yeah, I had been buried alive.
00:28:20.540 I said, get thee behind me, Satan.
00:28:24.740 For I commanded the name of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
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00:30:15.460 Gold above $2,900.
00:30:17.640 Make sure you go to Birch Gold.
00:30:19.720 Citicorp, as you know, one of the Rockefeller's banks, one of the biggest money center banks in the world, or Citigroup, I guess it's called now,
00:30:28.320 put out a report that they see gold going to $3,000.
00:30:32.940 Just read it.
00:30:33.720 We're not here to tape at the price of gold or we're to target.
00:30:37.100 We give you the capital markets geopolitics macro.
00:30:42.420 But gold has been a hedge for 5,000 years.
00:30:46.780 There's a reason for that.
00:30:48.600 Times of turbulence, and I'm going to go through some turbulence in a second.
00:30:51.400 Everybody's going to take their number two pencil out here, and you're going to remember who explained it to you as gospel truth.
00:30:59.440 Because we're in the fog.
00:31:01.560 In the days of thunder, there's thunder.
00:31:04.460 There's cannon fire.
00:31:05.540 There's gun, you know, one of the things in the Civil War.
00:31:07.740 You got gun smoke all around, kind of hard to see through the gun smoke.
00:31:11.960 Here in the war room, we have to be clear.
00:31:14.860 We have to be clear on the objective.
00:31:16.940 12 o'clock high.
00:31:19.920 Keep the flying fortresses in formation.
00:31:22.400 Never peel off, even if you've got to help a friend save himself.
00:31:25.260 Because the only thing that matters is the payload you drop over industrial Germany in the Ruhr Valley.
00:31:32.140 The more you take down the industrial capacity of the Germans, the shorter this war will be.
00:31:37.300 Quite mathematically, to a mathematical certitude, worked through.
00:31:42.540 And many, many, many brave young men gave their lives for that.
00:31:48.480 They were expendable.
00:31:50.680 They just were, it was the first way.
00:31:51.740 He tells them that.
00:31:52.400 Gregory Peck tells them in that magnificent movie.
00:31:55.200 But one of the reasons that movie is so magnificent is Gregory Peck in the entire time has absolute, total, and complete focus on the objective.
00:32:03.640 And what the objective is.
00:32:04.700 And it's not that we're losing focus, but other people, because days of thunder are rapid, things are happening, you've got all these verticals, you've got scale, you have depth, and you have urgency.
00:32:17.260 But in that, you also have to say, okay, you know, we're moving down this path, and we're going to get to that in a second.
00:32:24.020 But, Brett, the reason these are important, and I want you to relate to your time as congressman, you come up, and you had dedicated your life to your religion.
00:32:32.400 You had other things you were doing.
00:32:33.640 You went to, you know, theology school, dedicated your life to your religion.
00:32:38.060 When you went to Capitol Hill, were you surprised about how almost like a second-class citizen, Christians are given?
00:32:45.820 Because it shocked me in coming to the imperial capital, how you almost had to keep your Catholicism or your Christianity kind of in your back pocket.
00:32:53.820 Anybody that would actually be out there was considered a kook, a nut, and was immediately marginalized by the system.
00:33:01.220 No matter how talented, no matter how smart, no matter what amazing things they had to say about government or technology or geopolitics,
00:33:09.180 if you were a professed Christian and professed it or a traditional Catholic, you were immediately in the secular, and I call it kind of demonic power, money and power of the imperial capital.
00:33:23.320 You were identified as a kook and somebody that couldn't be counted on in a tough time.
00:33:28.540 Your thoughts as coming up as a young congressman, what did you see?
00:33:32.700 Yeah, first, you just remind me, J.D. Vance is lobbing a couple bombs over Germany the last few days, too.
00:33:38.520 So I just want to give him a shout-out for raising the issue.
00:33:42.160 But yeah, when I came, it was a very interesting dance up there.
00:33:45.980 You know, everybody smiles to your face.
00:33:48.020 Most everyone is religious and a Christian at some level, except when it comes to, like, the Ten Commandments, like, you know, don't lie.
00:33:57.200 And then broader issues of Christian integrity, you know, telling the truth, doing the right thing.
00:34:03.740 Everyone up there is hiding under their desk.
00:34:06.040 And now you're seeing it, right, this USAID thing and the corruption that's spilling out from that in every direction is just giving us just example after example after example of what we should have been doing in the first place, right?
00:34:20.380 We've had a border invasion.
00:34:22.140 We have 14 wars, hot spots going on, four wars that are on the verge of kinetic.
00:34:27.400 Not a word from anyone.
00:34:28.680 And so it's people say they're Christian, but no one called each other on the carpet, right?
00:34:36.000 And in the good book, there's all sorts of counsel within the church and St. Paul and all that of holding your brothers accountable to the truth.
00:34:44.000 There's none of that.
00:34:45.620 So there's no backbone.
00:34:46.720 There's no focus.
00:34:47.780 In the words of John Wick, there was no focus, there was no commitment, and there was no sheer will that you're exerting right here today.
00:34:57.680 And so that's a short memo.
00:34:59.980 Do you anticipate the task force under Pam Bondi to root out anti-Christian bias and bias against individual Christians and the faith office set up now with Paula White and under Paula White?
00:35:15.820 Do you think that those will start to accomplish our task and purpose?
00:35:19.020 I think they'll start, but it needs to be embedded in our institutions within a year to make a difference, just like the budget.
00:35:30.120 It needs to go into law.
00:35:31.340 The Supreme Court, you know, Catholics, Christians, Jewish should be – I don't know if they can read anymore.
00:35:38.960 The First Amendment says there shall be no law prohibiting the free expression of religion, right?
00:35:46.520 No establishment, no national establishment of religion – I don't see that anywhere, right?
00:35:51.620 There shall be – can they read in the Constitution?
00:35:54.520 There shall be no law prohibiting the free expression of religion.
00:35:57.980 We need to fight that one up and down everywhere, right?
00:36:00.140 As I was saying, if you paid $20,000 to go to public school, your kid cannot mention religion during the eight or nine hours of their formative years of education, where the Judeo-Christian West is responsible for literacy, reason, the Enlightenment, science, et cetera.
00:36:17.200 Einstein, I could go on and on on that little rift.
00:36:21.440 So it's just incredible.
00:36:22.740 And the reason for this is because Christians have become passive, right?
00:36:27.640 I read Samuel yesterday, right?
00:36:30.560 You know, Saul killed his thousands and David his ten thousands, and God took Saul out of commission because he wouldn't execute the wrath of God.
00:36:39.460 He wouldn't do the hard stuff.
00:36:40.700 It's easy to do the nice stuff, like Joe and Mika, and they just reference the gospel.
00:36:45.980 They're not systematic across all the public policy issues they cover in the morning.
00:36:50.620 Is this Christian, Mika?
00:36:51.780 Do you think we could do better along God's will there, Mika?
00:36:55.400 You'll never hear that.
00:36:56.660 You'll just hear when the time is needed at a prayer breakfast, they'll give you the token few words of, you know, pompous, pious Pharisees, like Lance said.
00:37:05.980 And that's it.
00:37:06.800 And that's why our culture's in trouble right now.
00:37:11.220 Okay.
00:37:11.780 And we're talking about USAID.
00:37:13.060 So I want to put up Thomas Massey's.
00:37:15.500 Thomas Massey.
00:37:16.700 And, you know, Massey went to MIT, and we fight with Massey a lot.
00:37:20.340 But he's one of the smartest guys around.
00:37:23.640 Yeah.
00:37:24.360 Do we have the tweet?
00:37:25.860 Can we put the tweet up?
00:37:27.860 Denver?
00:37:29.900 Not that.
00:37:31.000 That's not the tweet.
00:37:32.140 Tweet.
00:37:32.440 Okay.
00:37:33.320 This is a tweet from Tom Massey.
00:37:34.760 He says, I'm concerned that the House and Senate will fully fund USAID in March, just like we did in December, of which Massey says he voted no.
00:37:46.720 Remember, the only Republican to vote no.
00:37:48.780 The argument from Republican leadership was that they need Democrat votes to pass an omnibus or a one-year CR bill to avoid a government shutdown.
00:37:57.660 This is – and Johnson's running around, and they're up at the White House, should I say, for a five-hour meeting.
00:38:04.420 Okay?
00:38:05.240 Five-hour meeting.
00:38:06.760 And nobody comes out and says something just structurally.
00:38:10.580 We have to take it and drive a stake in it.
00:38:13.240 At midnight on the 14th of March in the year of our Lord, 2025, and I don't know, that's 35 days away or X amount of days away, the government runs out of money.
00:38:25.640 So the government will have to shut down.
00:38:27.480 President Trump's government runs out of money.
00:38:29.820 We'll have to shut down.
00:38:30.800 Let me repeat this.
00:38:31.540 President Donald John Trump's government will shut down.
00:38:34.680 We have been kicking the can down the road on these CRs, which this audience hates.
00:38:39.620 One happened while I was in prison.
00:38:41.320 But they've happened before.
00:38:43.100 And always the excuse, well, we've got to get the individual appropriations bill.
00:38:45.760 The Senate had that.
00:38:46.440 But it's the main excuses.
00:38:47.740 Always excuses.
00:38:49.740 Well, in December, right before Christmas, with only Thomas Massey standing in the – we kicked the can down the road.
00:38:57.860 And we were for 90 days to get to March 14th to give the team, President Trump's team, and the House and the Senate to work through so that we could get a budget from President Trump in his first term, his first year of his second term.
00:39:14.820 The reconciliations, and I've said this over and over and over again.
00:39:19.620 The reconciliations are – and we think there ought to be two, but they are kind of side pockets right now.
00:39:26.060 We have a central mission we have to do.
00:39:29.320 And Elon Musk and these guys can run around all they want.
00:39:32.720 They can go into Treasury and try to get the checkbook.
00:39:35.360 They're over at the Social Security.
00:39:36.540 I think they may be at the Education Department.
00:39:38.020 They're at the National Oceanographic, which is all fine.
00:39:42.540 I like it.
00:39:43.140 The USAID identified – by the way, identified because of 10 years of hard work of the Eli Cranes and the Matt Gaetzes and the MTGs and many, many other people have been up there.
00:39:53.000 But understand – and first off, they will not go across the Potomac, which they have to do, to get to the Pentagon to start to see where cuts are going to come from and where waste, fraud, and abuse is.
00:40:07.840 It just has to happen.
00:40:09.760 You're not an adult in Washington, D.C. and trying to take on the people that run the imperial capital if you're not prepared to do that.
00:40:16.500 So let me go back.
00:40:19.100 On the 14th, and Collins, who's the head of appropriations over in the Senate, she's a savvy old bird.
00:40:26.740 She raised up the flagpole a one-year CR.
00:40:29.480 You don't see any work being done by anybody else, no appropriations bills.
00:40:33.120 They're going to come to you and say, we need a one-year CR.
00:40:36.180 And a one-year CR is just an omnibus.
00:40:38.600 It's just an omnibus.
00:40:39.680 And we are going to kick the can down all of the spending, all of the spending that's being done at USAID is going to be in that bill.
00:40:54.220 It just is.
00:40:56.360 Legally, now, you may on the margin, they may cut a couple of subscriptions and better management, but USAID is going to be in that CR.
00:41:03.740 As right now, because that funds the government.
00:41:08.960 And President Trump's going to be in a terrible dilemma.
00:41:11.020 What do you do?
00:41:11.680 Because you can't, you want more cuts.
00:41:13.220 You actually want real cuts that you shut down your own government?
00:41:17.580 In addition, and make sure you write this number down, the Congressional Budget Office agrees with the War Room.
00:41:25.060 That this budget that we are currently working on, that as we move down the path, unless something radically changes, if people listen to this show, in other words, and radically changes, we're going to approve a one-year extension to September 30th, a continued resolution, and that's going to have in it a $2 trillion deficit.
00:41:50.640 A $2 trillion.
00:41:51.280 The math here is irrefutable.
00:41:55.060 It's irrefutable, and that's why nobody wants to talk about it.
00:41:57.800 So I just want to make sure that we're all singing from the same hymnal.
00:42:02.960 That because of the inaction of Johnson in the Senate, and even people that are around President Trump, at least initially, we're in a situation where in President Trump's first year,
00:42:17.080 the budget and the spending is going to kind of be a Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi deal of around $6.5 trillion.
00:42:25.520 The revenues will be the revenues, and we'll have about a $2 trillion.
00:42:27.780 I think it'd be high on $2 trillion, but right now, CBO says $1.9 trillion.
00:42:32.040 We say $2 trillion.
00:42:32.980 I think it'll actually be higher in that deficit that'll go on top of the debt.
00:42:39.360 Scott Besson will have to refinance it, and we're not going to get down – the price of eggs are not going to come down.
00:42:45.060 This is not a supply chain problem.
00:42:46.660 This is embedded deeply in the way that we finance the deficits we run and the financing and how we finance the deficits.
00:42:55.640 This is just clear in all the things you're running around on.
00:42:59.980 One big, beautiful reconciliation or two bills, and I've said it had to be two bills forever because it has to be two.
00:43:05.920 You've got to get money – you're talking about for the border and for energy and all that.
00:43:10.800 And right now, my understanding, in the two reconciliations, in the first reconciliation, there will be an increase of $300 billion of additional spending.
00:43:20.500 That's fine if you find $300 billion of cuts, and they say they're going to guarantee it.
00:43:24.740 And I don't want to hear 10-year cuts.
00:43:27.160 We can't play games.
00:43:29.300 We have to address the fact of what are the real cuts, real cuts of federal spending in this year and real cuts in federal spending next year.
00:43:38.800 Not three years, not four years, and certainly not 10 years.
00:43:42.260 We have to have an adult conversation, and we have to act as fiduciaries.
00:43:47.120 And Thomas Massey is one million percent right.
00:43:51.360 That's exactly where we're headed on the 14th of March in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:43:59.100 And with that, I'm not so – the Citicorp 3000 for gold, I don't know.
00:44:05.160 That may be conservative.
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00:45:18.400 So, Brad, okay, folks, I got more to drill down on this and some more math to give you
00:45:26.420 what you're going to want to take down because I'm giving you the gospel truth.
00:45:31.700 We're going Old Testament here this morning because somebody's got to talk about this.
00:45:36.600 We got to get our fantasy land.
00:45:39.400 As an investment banker, particularly doing a lot of turnarounds and restructuring, you go
00:45:42.840 into these companies, you got the management and they're all confused and things are happening
00:45:46.140 and the balance sheet is all upside down, they've got negative cash flow, they're going
00:45:49.160 out of business, and you will sit there and you'll hear a lot of fantasy land.
00:45:53.260 You'll hear a lot of fantasy land.
00:45:54.540 They've got EBITDA and the EBITDA, and I said, hey, EBITDA is an opinion.
00:45:58.260 Cash is a fact.
00:46:00.460 So don't give me EBITDA.
00:46:02.000 I just saw EBITDA on Twitter the other day, the new EBITDA forecast.
00:46:08.940 EBITDA is whatever you want it to be.
00:46:13.180 EBITDA is an opinion.
00:46:14.300 EBITDA is, you know, earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization, and
00:46:20.940 anything else.
00:46:21.500 They throw it all in there.
00:46:22.340 It's supposed to be a proxy for cash flow when you do deals.
00:46:25.340 It never is.
00:46:26.440 It's got no accounting provisions.
00:46:29.200 They throw everything there, and that's what I would say.
00:46:31.500 EBITDA is an opinion.
00:46:32.500 Cash is a fact.
00:46:33.200 I say, give me Mr. Balance Sheet at the beginning and Mr. Balance Sheet at the end, and let's
00:46:37.140 see what happens to the cash account because that's cash.
00:46:40.980 That's meaningful.
00:46:41.680 Everything else is happy talk, and once you understand that, then you can get back in.
00:46:46.840 And right now, it's not about happy talk.
00:46:48.760 They're running around, and they're having meetings, and they're, you know, Johnson's
00:46:52.940 thinking great thoughts, and they're thinking great thoughts.
00:46:55.180 It's all fantasy.
00:46:57.580 Just tell me, just on the 14th, if we're going to do it, let's just do it.
00:47:01.280 Let's just take Biden's number, and let's just do it.
00:47:04.160 You're going to have the same spending in USAID.
00:47:06.220 Now, maybe you cut some subscription to Politico and some other things.
00:47:09.100 You might do that.
00:47:10.120 That's a managerial action you can do.
00:47:12.620 And President Trump may step in and say the Impoundment Act.
00:47:15.260 That's fine.
00:47:15.900 I support that.
00:47:17.380 But that's not the thing itself.
00:47:19.420 That's instrumentality you're using to kind of get control of it.
00:47:22.500 But, hey, the process you have itself, and you had plenty of time.
00:47:26.320 We didn't pick March 14th as a random date.
00:47:28.960 It was 90 days or 100 days.
00:47:31.280 Nobody did any work.
00:47:33.620 Johnson and these guys didn't have to spend their time on the reconciliations and, you
00:47:38.500 know, all this because the lobbyists wanted them to do that.
00:47:42.460 They spend their time with it.
00:47:43.640 The lobbyists tell them, spend your time on this.
00:47:46.600 Spend your time on this.
00:47:48.520 That's what they end up doing.
00:47:49.540 And Doge, I think, is doing some great stuff, some amazing stuff.
00:47:54.260 And this USAID is fantastic, but it misses the point.
00:47:58.600 The point is, just tell me directionally, what are we going to cut in this year?
00:48:03.600 Because right now, we're going to spend it all.
00:48:06.600 You're going to have a one-year.
00:48:08.580 They're going to come up with a one-year CR.
00:48:11.340 Or maybe they come up with a 30-day CR.
00:48:13.080 They'll lead to a one-year CR.
00:48:15.540 Why are they doing this?
00:48:16.540 Because there's no political will to cut.
00:48:19.760 It's federal spending.
00:48:21.020 Full stop.
00:48:22.880 And they want to put a bunch of goodies in there and tax cuts.
00:48:25.260 Now, the president put out an eight-point tax plan yesterday that I thought was heroic.
00:48:31.860 Number one, he has no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, but no tax on Social Security.
00:48:40.580 Caroline Levin put it out there.
00:48:41.960 The president put it out there.
00:48:43.020 That is a real number.
00:48:44.420 That is a big number.
00:48:46.540 So when we talk about putting in, we have six and a half of spending and four and a half of revenue, all sources.
00:48:51.780 So we got $2 trillion gap, right?
00:48:54.060 Got to finance that.
00:48:54.840 Well, the 4.5, 84.5, if you do that, the 4.5 is, I don't know, let's say $4 trillion.
00:49:01.860 It's $500 billion of tax cuts to the people, to middle class and working class people.
00:49:08.560 And I'm 1 billion percent in back of that.
00:49:11.960 And he takes away the subsidies for the billionaire sports teams, and he takes away carried interest, which I love.
00:49:19.920 And it's got to happen.
00:49:20.960 But that's not a huge amount of money, but it's meaningful, and the optics of it are brilliant.
00:49:26.200 But you then have a gap.
00:49:27.900 And you have a bigger gap than you have before.
00:49:29.700 And I understand that the tax cuts and all that, it's a pro-growth supply side.
00:49:35.680 And I'm a big believer in Scott Besson.
00:49:37.480 Scott Besson said this is the last shot.
00:49:39.180 He and Kudlow, the last shot we have supply side tax.
00:49:41.800 And I agree with that 1,000 percent.
00:49:44.820 But that takes up time to kick in.
00:49:47.740 In 2017, when we got the tax cut done in the late fall of 2017, it didn't really kick into 2019.
00:49:54.820 It takes a while for that to kick in.
00:49:56.760 So in the interim, you have bigger deficits unless you cut spending.
00:50:03.780 And the way you start with spending, you don't start with Medicaid.
00:50:07.860 And you can't touch Medicare or anything.
00:50:10.140 It may be some waste, fraud, and abuse, maybe $100 billion or more.
00:50:13.660 That's got to be stopped.
00:50:15.480 But until you cut the discretionary spending and get to the social programs, you have to go across the Potomac to the Pentagon.
00:50:21.480 That's just the physics of modern political life.
00:50:26.140 And not just that.
00:50:27.520 We don't need to spend 3.4 percent of GDP on defense.
00:50:30.880 We don't.
00:50:31.520 You don't have to do it.
00:50:33.560 They're going to give you a million and one reasons why you have to do it, but you don't have to do it.
00:50:37.620 You don't have to do it.
00:50:38.800 You can do it for hundreds of billions of dollars less.
00:50:41.140 Yes.
00:50:42.300 You heard it.
00:50:42.940 You have to be smarter about what you're doing.
00:50:45.360 You have to have your task and purpose or your objective, but you don't need it.
00:50:49.600 However, when they talk about Medicaid and Medicare and the social programs, yes.
00:50:56.180 Waste, fraud, and abuse, duplication, look at USAID, an abomination.
00:51:01.540 But you ain't seen nothing yet to go to the Pentagon.
00:51:04.080 Those guys are the mac daddies of this.
00:51:06.840 Those are the mac daddies.
00:51:08.100 They haven't had to be able to do an audit, I don't know, in 30 or 40 years.
00:51:11.340 You spent trillions and trillions of trillions.
00:51:13.060 People don't even know where the stuff is.
00:51:15.700 You spent $7 trillion in Iraq and $2 trillion in Afghanistan.
00:51:19.140 Do you think we have any sense of where that went?
00:51:24.220 The tax cut on Social Security is a – if you look at the $4 trillion from the 2017 cut, and let me be frank,
00:51:33.780 my idea on raising taxes on the wealthy in the upper bracket was the smart thing to do in 2017,
00:51:42.440 and it's a smarter thing to do in 2025.
00:51:46.580 The tax cut for Social Security has to happen.
00:51:50.440 President Trump said it's going to happen.
00:51:51.720 He put it on the list yesterday.
00:51:52.680 It was heroic.
00:51:54.060 President Trump is in your corner.
00:51:56.740 Very few politicians would ever do that.
00:51:58.860 Very few politicians would ever sign a task force to root out the anti-Christian bias in this federal government
00:52:07.900 against the religion of Christianity, the culture of Christianity, and individual Christians.
00:52:14.900 And nobody has ever stood up and said, we need to stop taxing Social Security.
00:52:20.720 That the folks that have helped build this country and put it on their shoulders,
00:52:24.060 by the time they get to take Social Security, they need a break.
00:52:27.120 They've done enough.
00:52:28.020 They have done enough.
00:52:30.480 They've worked enough.
00:52:31.720 They've sacrificed enough.
00:52:33.420 They went through it all and, hey, delivered us this great country.
00:52:37.920 We don't need to tax them anymore.
00:52:40.400 In order to do that, it's either got to be made up in two places.
00:52:45.400 We either have to cut the spending, the out-of-control spending,
00:52:49.200 or you have to look for additional tax revenues.
00:52:52.520 I'm a huge believer in the external revenue service and using this as a golden market
00:52:57.020 to get through the golden door.
00:52:59.040 But if that's not enough, you've got to look around again.
00:53:02.260 And where are you going to end up in the same place in 2017?
00:53:05.540 The upper bracket.
00:53:06.460 That $1 trillion sitting there, that $4 trillion, has to go to Social Security.
00:53:12.760 No tax on Social Security.
00:53:14.200 Short break.
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