Bannon's War Room - March 22, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 730： Lefts Contradiction To The Wealthy; Ideologically Possesed Judges

Topics
oligarchs and Fed protests judges' actions & national security defense cuts
Hosted by
Steve Bannon
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Donald Trump Elon Musk Steve Stern Pete Hegseth Royce White Bernie Sanders Keith Ellison Doge Andy Biggs George Floyd Square Mike Lindell Jace Philip Patrick Howard Lutnick Rachel Maddow Ray Dalio Bannon20 Nixon George Floyd Joy Reid and 23 more
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, Mike Lindell. Mike is a man of many talents, but his legal expertise can only be summed up in one word, he's a fierce advocate for election integrity. He's been in the business for a long time, and he's been through a lot in his career, but he's also been in politics for a very long time. He knows what it takes to get things done in Washington, D.C., and he knows how important it is that we have integrity in our election system.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:19.420 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:24.720 Here's what I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:28.920 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:30.980 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:32.400 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:34.120 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:35.040 It's going to happen.
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00:00:39.720 MAGA Media.
00:00:41.040 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:46.480 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:50.260 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:55.920 Save War Room.
00:00:57.500 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:00:59.520 It is Friday, 21 March, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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00:01:36.320 Promo code Steve.
00:01:37.980 Here's the reason.
00:01:38.660 We need you at the Ramparts.
00:01:39.940 The impeachment of some of these judges, particularly one judge.
00:01:47.700 That's why you got to get Bill Blaster and get on or go over to Article 3.
00:01:51.460 Let's get on top of this.
00:01:52.080 You just heard Andy Biggs, Congressman Andy Biggs, lay out other alternatives.
00:01:56.160 They're going to be working on.
00:01:57.500 We're going to need to bring pressure on that.
00:01:59.620 You've got this Wisconsin situation pulling out today.
00:02:03.500 I don't know.
00:02:03.900 So we're down by five.
00:02:04.920 So this is all about turnout.
00:02:07.100 Went from 47, tied.
00:02:08.840 Now 51, what, 46?
00:02:12.940 From a 47, 47.
00:02:14.820 And they said that's closing by 10 on this fall.
00:02:16.880 I'm not so sure.
00:02:17.640 But it looks like we need turnout, turnout, turnout, turnout, turnout of Trump voters,
00:02:23.020 of MAGA voters.
00:02:24.020 And we're going to make sure that we're putting our shoulder to the wheel.
00:02:26.380 We want you to.
00:02:27.400 You've got to be at the Ramparts.
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00:02:31.420 Promo code Steve25.
00:02:35.740 Make sure you talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team over there.
00:02:38.740 She's fantastic.
00:02:40.620 What you have is 80 or 90% of your net worth is in that home.
00:02:43.820 It's just that piece of paper that proves it.
00:02:47.180 Something happens to that piece of paper.
00:02:48.500 It gets changed.
00:02:49.620 You've got a tale of woe.
00:02:51.080 And not a lot of people are going to give you time to explain it.
00:02:53.780 So go check it out today.
00:02:55.020 Mike Lindell, I want people to understand you're a more fierce warrior than ever on election integrity.
00:03:01.940 And it's one of the reasons that Keith Ellison, I just sat to a last night.
00:03:07.660 I think they had five of these attorney generals from these blue states.
00:03:10.800 I believe they were gathered in Minnesota, although they're going around the country.
00:03:15.840 And they're just talking about, Letitia James is talking about using state courts and others to gum up the works around President Trump.
00:03:22.940 And I've warned people about this.
00:03:24.080 I said, hey, the federal courts, they have a tough enough fighting there.
00:03:28.200 Royce White's going to join us in a minute.
00:03:29.700 He can tell us about Keith Ellison.
00:03:31.180 Royce White's a son of Minnesota.
00:03:34.580 And has been active in politics there.
00:03:39.780 He'll tell you about Ellison.
00:03:41.380 But these blue states with these juries they can select and what they can do, they can run roughshod.
00:03:48.100 And they're trying to do that over you.
00:03:49.360 Are they not, sir?
00:03:51.480 Absolutely, Steve.
00:03:52.800 And I wanted to bring up the Lindell Foundation, everybody.
00:03:56.120 We found a little more out yesterday, my attorneys and I.
00:03:59.080 So the Lindell Foundation, I originally set it up, this amazing foundation that would kind of filter your needs down to your own city, your own county.
00:04:10.160 It was an amazing platform that was set up.
00:04:13.520 And as we went into it, when they gave us the China virus, I had to kind of park it like a parked car because we re-rolled into that. 0.99
00:04:21.380 And then my time was taken up with the election platforms.
00:04:24.180 Well, according to Keith Ellison's office, they're very upset that the foundation, it's like a witch hunt.
00:04:31.640 They're going, well, this never came to fruition.
00:04:33.880 You promised these donors that this would come to fruition.
00:04:37.280 Steve, here's the kicker.
00:04:38.700 I was the only donor.
00:04:40.420 It's all me.
00:04:41.180 100% of the money.
00:04:42.680 So you talk about a witch hunt. 0.82
00:04:45.140 And it's just disgusting.
00:04:47.320 And then the technology behind that, we put into the Lindell Recovery Network that helps addicts get to Jesus, quit their addictions.
00:04:57.460 And so all the technology, the back-end platforms and stuff, just these amazing projects that I put in the money for.
00:05:05.960 And the only reason you can think, there's two reasons I believe he's attacking.
00:05:10.580 One is, obviously, I want to secure our elections.
00:05:13.460 And two is, this is a Christian platform.
00:05:15.860 That's the only thing I can think of, because it doesn't make sense.
00:05:19.360 You talk about Elon getting attacked at Tesla and stuff.
00:05:22.600 MyPillow's been the most attacked company, I believe, in history.
00:05:26.560 And why?
00:05:27.640 Because Mike Lindell, the CEO, wanted to set up other things for, you know, secure our election platforms, help people get to Jesus, give away all his money.
00:05:39.340 I mean, this is, you can't even make this stuff up, what this evil is doing in our country.
00:05:46.040 And, you know, you can talk about it's the other party.
00:05:48.440 I think it's just pure evil.
00:05:50.020 You got the Uniparty, the deep state, globalists, Democrats all clobbed into one.
00:05:55.020 And it's a continuous battle.
00:05:59.440 I want people to also understand, I spoke to, you know, a huge group the other day, Steve Stern puts on, just unbelievable, with all the election integrity kind of superstars that continue to labor in the field.
00:06:11.980 Just let people, people, because, you know, once you have victory, people get so excited.
00:06:15.880 How close are we to allowing these radical Marxist Democrats to steal elections now and in the future, sir?
00:06:25.480 If we don't, if we don't get everybody to paper ballots hand counted, which our great president wants, 132 countries have banned electronic voting machines, over 100 countries have banned mail-in voting.
00:06:38.820 We have the worst election platforms in history, more than any other country.
00:06:42.920 And it's this close, 70% of this country, or 68%, I believe, is actually red. 0.94
00:06:50.100 And they can't win anything if they don't steal it.
00:06:53.300 Nobody wants this lunacy and this non-common-sense things that they're doing or trying to do.
00:07:01.700 So I told the president just a few weeks ago, I said, I promised him, I said, we are all, everyone, everyone I have out there with the cause of America, the election bureau, everything,
00:07:11.840 Steve Stern, all of them out there, everybody working for this, I promised him, these next four years, we're not gonna let them just be a blip in history or be in vain.
00:07:23.220 I mean, these great things getting done, you guys, evil's just relaxing, not relaxing, they're just regrouping.
00:07:30.360 Call it regrouping, okay?
00:07:32.240 Everything I've fought for for four years, we are gonna complete, and we are gonna have the best election platforms in the history of the planet.
00:07:40.920 I promise you all that.
00:07:42.520 We're not letting up, ever.
00:07:44.040 They can sit and attack my foundations and this, attack my pillow and all these, but we're gonna keep going, and we're gonna win.
00:07:52.360 And we gotta get it done by the summer of 2026.
00:07:55.100 You are a hero, sir, mypillow.com, promo code WARWROOM, go to the day, it's a special promo code, we get all the special deals, make sure you go check it out.
00:08:06.200 Mike Lindell, you're a patriot and a hero, and the most attacked person after President Trump is you, Elon's a third, okay?
00:08:13.360 But you're definitely number two.
00:08:15.480 Thank you, sir.
00:08:16.140 Well, thank you, Steve.
00:08:17.480 Yep, thanks for all the support, everybody.
00:08:19.280 Promo code WARWROOM, mypillow.com.
00:08:21.300 Love you, brother.
00:08:25.280 We have a cold open for my next guest, a very special guest, also a son of Minnesota, is gonna talk to us about the situation up there.
00:08:32.780 I'll show national.
00:08:33.560 Let's go ahead and play it.
00:08:36.380 An oligarchy in America.
00:08:38.900 And that is when those with the most economic, political, and technological power destroy the public good to enrich themselves while millions of Americans pay the price.
00:08:56.560 And we are at a point where the wealthiest people in the world, like Elon Musk, and all the Republicans enabling him, are turning to loot what is left of Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, to bankroll even deeper tax cuts and sweetheart contracts for themselves, their fellow billionaires,
00:09:26.280 and their corporations.
00:09:30.560 Okay.
00:09:31.840 We got some other, we're gonna play some other stuff, too, about the judges, and I'm gonna play deeper, more cut of that on Morning Jones this morning.
00:09:38.560 I wanna bring in Royce White, though.
00:09:40.820 Royce, you came to national prominence during the BLM and the George Floyd situation in Minneapolis, where you led a march, and I don't know, there were thousands of people there.
00:09:54.220 You're a known sports figure, a known leader of your community.
00:09:59.740 And everybody thought you were gonna lead them down back to George Floyd Square, where this incident took place.
00:10:07.180 Instead, you went to the Federal Reserve, because Minnesota is one of the headquarters, like Denver and Richmond, Virginia and Dallas, of a Federal Reserve bank.
00:10:17.960 You went to the front of the Minnesota Federal Reserve bank, and you basically gave a throwdown right there that shocked the nation.
00:10:30.520 I noticed that you used to be on MSNBC a lot, and then when you started going after the money, you were on MSNBC a lot less.
00:10:36.820 You've gone after these oligarchs when you ran for office, and now you see Bernie Sanders and AOC.
00:10:46.880 And I remember crickets out of these people for years about the oligarchs as they built the oligarchs, the lords of easy money on Wall Street, who they report to, but particularly the apartheid state of Silicon Valley.
00:10:59.980 They not only allowed the oligarchy to be formed, they never said anything, as long as the oligarchy was hammering on people on the right, as long as they were going after MAGA, as long as they were deplatforming all of us, right, they were happy with it.
00:11:15.100 What the hell is Bernie Sanders and AOC actually talking about, sir?
00:11:19.060 Can you figure it out, since you've been a fire breather about this from the beginning of your public career?
00:11:25.740 Well, thank you. That might be the best introduction I could possibly ask for or pay for.
00:11:33.100 And I say, people ask me, well, what are your credentials? Why should we vote for you?
00:11:36.740 Running against Tina in 26 now, she opted to not run for re-election because she's of the same ilk, a radical leftist herself.
00:11:44.660 And I say, my only credentializer is, I may be the only person in American history to lead a 10,000-person protest at the front door of the Fed.
00:11:53.560 And there's a reason. And although it was during a George Floyd situation, what I heard down there was very important.
00:12:01.160 It's important for the American people to understand. The number one chant was the whole system is guilty.
00:12:07.520 I heard it time and time again. And I'm thinking to myself, no, these people are getting it.
00:12:11.620 Yeah, we're at the Fed. Yeah, the way the money works in this country is quite guilty.
00:12:15.060 I think we're getting somewhere. I don't know what they mean when they say the system.
00:12:19.240 And I think it's changing. I think what they meant during George Floyd meant one thing.
00:12:23.200 And what it's starting to mean is something else. And hopefully by 2026, it'll be something completely different.
00:12:28.120 But it just blows my mind to see an AOC who had a $100,000 couture dress made and given to her for the Met Gala. 0.77
00:12:38.260 Talk about oligarchy and the elite. It's an insult to the intelligence of her own constituency. 1.00
00:12:46.240 Forget the MAGA, far-right, Republican conspiracy theorists like myself.
00:12:50.300 She's insulting the Democrats, her own followers. And at some point, they're going to say enough is enough.
00:12:54.920 And I think the same thing with Bernie. I love that RFK called him out for being on the money grift with Big Pharma
00:12:59.920 and some of these other big money interests. So the entire socialist platform up until this point has and is now being exposed for the grift it really was.
00:13:10.100 They're not like the Royce Whites of the world at the front door of the Fed banging, saying, where's our money? 0.99
00:13:15.680 Why was it at the time, because you were on Rachel and others, how did it go that as soon as you went to talk about the money
00:13:27.500 and gave this fire-breathing speech that we got a problem here with the central bank and the concentration of wealth and power,
00:13:34.060 all of a sudden Royce White went from like a superstar on MSNBC to, hey, I haven't seen this guy Royce White in a while.
00:13:40.900 Where is he? They just had no interest or they didn't understand it or they understood it and said,
00:13:48.520 we can't keep putting this guy on. What was the reason?
00:13:52.120 Every liberal or you could say cuck-servative academic elite in this country that was educated at an elitist university
00:14:03.900 or a state university knows exactly how the money works. And especially Rachel Maddow. 1.00
00:14:08.220 I won't say everyone, but especially the ones who they put on prime time. Rachel knows exactly
00:14:12.960 how the Fed works. Joy Ann Reed knew how the Fed worked. Don Lemon knows how the Fed works. In fact,
00:14:18.220 I think CNN, PBS, they all did documentaries on the Fed and they called out the corruption. But
00:14:23.040 if you're a young black man and you want young black and Hispanic voters or who they call the inner city
00:14:28.740 minority voters, or even let's say suburban white women to understand how they're getting scammed, 1.00
00:14:33.980 they have to put you on mute. And this is why none of the mainstream media will, will even cover me
00:14:39.220 anymore. A, because I record all the interviews so they can't piece it together like they do,
00:14:43.220 but also because they know I'm gonna go straight to the heart of the issue. And it's the same reason
00:14:46.460 they don't like you, Steve, is because you understand how the money works from your time on
00:14:50.900 Wall Street. You understand how the entertainment business works and how it all comes together and
00:14:54.840 you can articulate it. That's another thing they don't like. And they're going to double and triple
00:14:58.480 down on AOC on their side because they think theatrics are their only way forward. And our
00:15:04.160 side has people like me, and I can't wait to get in front of an AOC and talk about the Fed.
00:15:08.080 I mean, let's really talk about oligarchy. Is there anything more fascist than when your financial
00:15:13.480 institutions merge together with the corporation and conspire against the president of the United
00:15:18.600 States? That is the epitome of fascism. I don't even, but they don't even believe what they're
00:15:24.360 saying. They're just hoping their constituents do. And that's sad for this country.
00:15:30.580 Okay. You've seen the president and kind of what we call the days of thunder or the flood,
00:15:34.560 the zone. And you've seen the reaction of that. They're in court immediately. We have this huge
00:15:39.700 fight about him being commander in chief. What's your overall assessment? Then I want to get
00:15:45.960 specifically what you think about the situation of him being commander in chief. But as you see him
00:15:50.240 taking actions, executive orders, executive actions every day, like Department of Education
00:15:55.140 yesterday, and they're already, they're already telling, Hey, they're going to file. I think by
00:15:59.220 the end of the day today, if not, it'll be Monday and Tuesday, but a bunch of groups, like I said,
00:16:03.700 we've retained law firms. We're coming after him to stop all this. What is your thoughts about
00:16:07.860 President Trump's, how he's doing against this judicial insurrection, sir?
00:16:13.860 Well, and to harken back to what we were talking about during the days, one of the things I've been
00:16:19.600 saying for about four years now is there is no rule of law when your lawmakers are all corrupt. And
00:16:25.680 that extends to the judges as well. And you could say DAs and whoever else is supposed to uphold
00:16:30.180 the rule of law. And one of the problems we have in the conservative movement, I've also been critical
00:16:34.620 is we are almost obsessed with the idea rule of law. And we're not willing to accept when the
00:16:41.400 opposition no longer wants to play by those rules, those agreed upon rules. We are now functionally
00:16:47.720 in a war, a legal lawfare war that you've been a victim of yourself. So my only message to Donald
00:16:54.540 Trump is put your foot to the floor. I mean, even as far as when you hear murmurs, can Donald Trump
00:17:00.780 get a third term? Is there a way to work it out? Absolutely. These people had the country for 60 years.
00:17:06.840 They knew exactly what they were doing. They took the university. The universities are the people who set
00:17:11.280 the bar association. The bar associations are the people who have the high power law firms. They're
00:17:15.580 all in on it together. They're all co-mingled. They're all corrupt together. They're like a hydra
00:17:20.020 for lack of a better term. I don't mean to be hyperbolic, but that's really what it is. And it
00:17:23.980 is a threat to national security. And on face value, the American people should be rejecting of it. But
00:17:30.100 I actually view it as a matter of national security. If there's a place where Donald Trump should drop the
00:17:35.000 hammer down with no sort of equivocations, it's on this corrupt legal system. You can't have
00:17:43.900 the courts conspiring that are ideologically possessed against the only people telling the
00:17:49.900 truth. I mean, we can't say that I shouldn't be able to play in the WNBA. That makes us fascists.
00:17:56.060 Okay, well, those judges gotta go. I'm sorry. And some people should be disbarred. And that,
00:18:01.080 I think, is a very lenient penalty considering the risks of an out of control and corrupt legal
00:18:09.280 system. So go forward, Donald Trump. Drop the hammer. Don't let these conservatives who still
00:18:16.000 have these hopes of appealing to their moderate constituents convince you that this is extremism.
00:18:22.920 No, what's extreme is letting a communist regime and the academic elite take over your country 60
00:18:28.680 years running and just go on ahead and sell you out to your national mortal enemies there in Beijing.
00:18:33.760 That is extreme. And we all know it, but I think that the middle of America is starting to recognize
00:18:38.740 it too. And he should drop the hammer now while he's hot, as we say in the sports world.
00:18:46.140 When you go back and this judge in D.C., actually the head of the D.C. district court,
00:18:51.920 intervening for his action as commander in chief, where there's a designated terrorist group,
00:18:57.460 and he is deemed as commander in chief, they are a national security issue. And he has a country
00:19:03.420 that will take them. He's put them on military planes and sent them to that country. And this
00:19:10.120 judge is trying to intervene to the fact on Saturday, trying to re-ordering as a judge from
00:19:16.200 the bench that the planes be turned around. Do you think that's causes for a commander in chief not
00:19:22.520 to comply, sir? 1,000%. I don't even think it's a judgment call, honestly.
00:19:29.120 And my first reaction is, man, I wish I was in that U.S. Senate right now. And I hope I get in
00:19:33.540 there in 26 for his second half of his term, because I'll be right there at the podium fighting
00:19:39.380 against this type of narrative. He's 1,000% within his right as commander in chief to take this judge's
00:19:46.540 actions, not just the implications of what's on the table with this terrorist group, but
00:19:51.420 this judge's actions as an infringement or an impediment on national security.
00:19:58.040 Every Soros, every judge who's connected to Soros, who's been connected to these witch hunts,
00:20:03.920 we are right to at least, at the very least, talk about disbarment and impeachment, at the very least.
00:20:11.200 And they're lucky that the president is a kind-hearted and decent man, and that he's not
00:20:16.580 seeking real jail time for these people, prison time. So even there, he's being very lenient as
00:20:24.080 commander in chief, but disbarment and impeachment 100%, who do they think they are? This is a matter
00:20:30.520 of national security, and he has those rights. He has that power.
00:20:33.460 On the rest, on his issues as chief executive, where he's saying, I want these people cut, or
00:20:42.440 as Andy Biggis said, he's seeing a budget and saying, hey, I don't think it should cost that
00:20:47.460 much. That's the ceiling that's been appropriated. I'm going to either impound it, or I'm just not
00:20:51.800 going to have it spent, or I may even reprogram it. Judges have stopped him. I think there's 23,
00:20:57.400 24, now injunctions, injunctions coming out every day as they go in. He's being told to comply with
00:21:05.860 these, because not to comply will hurt him as he goes up and litigates it at the appellate court,
00:21:11.400 and that's the Supreme Court. Do you agree with that strategy? You think he ought to comply with
00:21:15.900 these, or have we reached a stage where it's pretty obvious you have a judicial insurrection
00:21:21.160 that's coordinated, just like the vast criminal conspiracy against him was coordinated to try to
00:21:26.720 put him in prison for this phony insurrection they keep talking about? Do you think that he ought to
00:21:32.520 comply, or he ought to start listening to people like you that said, hey, I think we got to fight
00:21:37.100 fire with fire here? He needs to quadruple down, but hey, if you go to my Wikipedia page, the top line
00:21:43.680 reads, I'm an American conspiracy theorist, so who am I? I think I'm pretty reasonable. This goes all the
00:21:48.880 way back to your first point about why MSNBC doesn't have me on. Up until Donald Trump, every president of
00:21:56.200 the United States, let's go back to maybe Nixon, okay? From after Nixon up until President Trump,
00:22:03.520 every president has been a sort of judicial and globalist puppet rubber stamp.
00:22:10.420 And so their entire animosity against myself and you and many of the others out there who talk about
00:22:17.280 these issues is, they don't want any of these issues to be seen in the scope of a matter of
00:22:22.520 national security. These neocon warmongers only want us to think of national security as
00:22:28.260 surrendering our rights or sending our money, sons and daughters to fight a war,
00:22:32.340 a world the way that we can't win. The debt's never a matter of national security. The borders never
00:22:37.280 matter of national security. The way we educate our young people in tomorrow's upstanding and
00:22:42.500 upkeeping citizens is never a matter of national security. And that's the whole scam. All of these
00:22:47.540 things are in the scope of national security. And I think it was probably in the dead heat of the 2024
00:22:52.200 campaign, people ask, well, how are we going to get these things done without the Senate? I'm saying,
00:22:56.520 hey, we have a crisis in the United States Senate, whether I make it or not. I'm under no false
00:23:00.820 pretenses about me being able to change that body and make it America first all of a sudden. But
00:23:06.080 the president himself has the power. And I think the legal precedents,
00:23:11.120 you know, and let's say the righteous, uh, you know, uh, mandate to, to fight these people on
00:23:17.540 these matters. This is national security. The debt is national security. It's not financial in
00:23:22.400 nature. Come on, give me a break. Royce, where do people go and, uh, and get you on your podcast
00:23:30.720 and social media, everything else you're putting out? Um, please call me crazy Monday, Wednesday,
00:23:36.080 Friday, not tonight. We're going to run our, please call me crazy on Sunday. So look out for
00:23:40.640 that. Uh, YouTube rumble truth X I'm everywhere. I'm everywhere. Uh, you know, and, and you can find
00:23:47.460 me obviously on war rooms, get her and rumble page. You guys run the podcast and we're thankful for
00:23:51.700 that. And the war room posse shout out to everybody in the audience. We're going to need
00:23:55.600 you all in 2026. Thanks for having me on brother. Love you. Are you, are you concerned about
00:24:01.780 Crockett and some of these people on the Elon Musk situation? We just had bigs on here.
00:24:05.460 Are you concerned about Crockett and some of these people talking now about the, uh, that
00:24:10.240 are bringing up the rhetoric like AOC and bringing up to, there may actually be physical
00:24:14.980 threats against Elon Musk, or certainly they're trying to Molotov cocktail, uh, Tesla dealerships.
00:24:20.660 You see all kinds of, besides the doxing and the things happening onto the media on the
00:24:25.140 right, but against Tesla specifically Crockett and AOC, do you think, you think we're having
00:24:30.320 a, uh, a, a situation there? I'll say this first off.
00:24:34.760 Uh, climate activists and EV hardliners burning Tesla's is peak woke insanity.
00:24:43.540 And I don't think there's, I don't think there's anything these people aren't capable of.
00:24:49.040 Obviously a Minnesota CEO was shot out there on the street from United healthcare group earlier,
00:24:53.860 uh, in, you know, in this past year. Uh, so I, and I've said before the only way for the real,
00:25:00.380 the real left, and I mean the real radical left, not the people who will, will go either
00:25:06.300 way. The wind blows to, to retain power and keep the status quo. The hardcore radical left,
00:25:12.460 the only place for them to go is dark. They have to start to distance themselves. I mean,
00:25:16.640 ideologically in the grassroots, they have to start to distance themselves from their corporate ties
00:25:21.240 to make themselves seem more legitimately populist and of the people. And in that they can't do it
00:25:27.220 with ideas and morals and values and ethics. They can't refer to first principles. The only thing
00:25:32.300 they can do to try and galvanize support energy is to go violent. And that's what you're seeing with
00:25:37.000 the Tesla's being burned across the nation. One more time, uh, Royce, uh, social media.
00:25:44.620 Um, X, uh, true social getter. Please call me crazy on YouTube, uh, sub stack. I'm everywhere.
00:25:51.400 Thanks, Steve. I appreciate it, man. And Royce, uh, is precedes us here on Saturday mornings,
00:25:57.960 his favorite show of the week and my favorite show of the week. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
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00:30:55.560 Extraordinary blockbuster new reporting in the New York Times reveals that Donald Trump's biggest
00:31:06.580 donor and de facto wingman slash co-president Elon Musk had been set to get a briefing on the U.S.
00:31:13.800 military's plans for any possible conflict with China. Given that Elon Musk has extensive business
00:31:20.180 interests in China and is the head of a major defense contractor, SpaceX, it is both a tremendous
00:31:26.640 conflict of interest and a potential national security risk all rolled into one. This morning,
00:31:32.660 Elon Musk arrived at the Pentagon. He was greeted by the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth. Now,
00:31:37.980 what happens next gets a little murky. Since that reporting first broke, Team Trump has repeatedly
00:31:44.760 and furiously denied that Elon Musk would be briefed on war plans. Pete Hegseth told reporters
00:31:50.660 in the Oval Office today this, quote, it was a great informal conversation. The rest of that
00:31:57.280 reporting was fake. There were no war plans. There was no Chinese war plans. There was no secret plans,
00:32:04.020 end quote. That's what they say. Now that Hegseth did not say if China came up in their conversations
00:32:10.640 today. Here's what the reporting said. Two U.S. officials telling the New York Times this,
00:32:17.740 quote, the Pentagon was scheduled on Friday to brief Elon Musk on the U.S. military's plan for any war
00:32:23.700 that might break out with China, end quote. It should be no surprise to anyone that war plans are as
00:32:30.540 closely guarded as anything. Times goes on to report this, quote, if a foreign country were to learn how
00:32:37.740 the United States planned to fight a war against them, it could reinforce its defenses and address
00:32:43.420 its weaknesses, making the plans far less likely to succeed. The top secret briefing that exists for
00:32:49.400 the China war plan has about 20 to 30 slides that lay out how the United States would fight such a
00:32:55.500 conflict. It covers the plan beginning with the indications and warning of a threat from China
00:33:00.780 to various options on what Chinese targets to hit over what time period that would be presented to
00:33:06.620 Mr. Trump for decisions, according to officials with knowledge of the plan.
00:33:10.180 We knew that once this reporting was out there, that when Trump saw it, he would likely,
00:33:16.880 you know, if he learned about this meeting, he would likely cancel it. And my colleagues,
00:33:21.680 Eric Schmidt and Maggie Haberman have reported today that's just what happened, that after Trump
00:33:27.140 learned about this meeting last night, after our reporting broke, he put an end to it. Not the
00:33:32.800 meeting itself, but the discussion of the war plans. He explained in his Oval Office remarks why,
00:33:41.620 right? That he does not think this is something that Elon needed to see. He cited the, very importantly,
00:33:48.020 he incited the business conflicts, essentially putting some guardrails here on Elon Musk for perhaps the
00:33:54.840 first time. And certainly, uh, uh, kind of extraordinary limits, uh, that were not articulated
00:34:01.420 before. Um, so our reporting says that this meeting was going on. He was going to be briefed on the war
00:34:07.380 plans. And then when Trump learned about it, the meeting was canceled. Okay. Let's have an adult
00:34:14.460 conversation. Everybody knows I've got big differences with Elon Musk. The two biggest issues I have with
00:34:19.440 Elon Musk is relationship with the Chinese Communist Party. The second one's transhumanism. I guess the third
00:34:23.800 one's being an oligarch. Um, but I have said from the beginning and had his back on this doge situation
00:34:30.980 because it's very important that we get to the bottom of exactly waste, fraud, and abuse. So we
00:34:35.400 can then also go through programmatically and start to cut the budget. We have a crisis and people just
00:34:42.080 want to be diverted to all this kind of sidebar stuff. There is, it is impossible, impossible
00:34:51.660 that Pete Hegseth in the joint chiefs of staff scheduled a meeting to show Elon Musk, who doesn't
00:35:02.220 have the security clearance for it. And quite frankly, does have business relations with the CCP. He's the
00:35:06.440 first to admit that he praises them all the time. The war plans, the operational plans, uh, in a
00:35:12.880 classified basis and a classified space in the Pentagon without running a past president Trump.
00:35:18.500 The thing is phony. It's a fake news, a fake story. It didn't happen what they were doing. And
00:35:24.380 remember on this show, we're the ones that were yelling and screaming and banging on the table,
00:35:29.140 cross the Potomac, cross the Potomac, cross the Potomac. The day was kind of the initial day of
00:35:34.700 that they've been over there for four and a half weeks is I'm going to discuss tomorrow when Philip
00:35:39.680 Patrick joins me. The buried lead on the federal reserve announcement this week, the headline,
00:35:46.840 they all ran around. Well, no rate cut. And we're gonna have two rate cuts going down, down, down
00:35:51.200 range. They didn't pick up or nobody emphasized the fact that Fed put out new numbers
00:35:57.660 on our economic growth, on GDP growth. And that number was 1.7%. Let me be brutally frank. The
00:36:07.900 model doesn't work at 1.7% growth. It doesn't. If you back out massive government spending, we're
00:36:16.100 already in a recession. The only reason this thing keeps going, and this is what President Trump's
00:36:21.800 trying to do. Oh, by the way, did I mention that Johnson & Johnson announced today, was it $55
00:36:27.300 billion of advanced plant and equipment being brought to the United States for manufacturing,
00:36:32.920 advanced manufacturing, starting in North Carolina? You got Honda in Indiana. You got Johnson & Johnson,
00:36:38.440 North Carolina. You have Taiwan Semiconductor, $100 billion in Arizona. NVIDIA just says, you know,
00:36:46.080 they hundreds of billions of dollars of essentially design because they don't really manufacture that
00:36:50.340 much. Hundreds of billions of dollars here in the United States. Apple at $500 billion. These are not,
00:36:56.680 it's not UAE announcing they're going to do all this and put, you know, a day a trillion dollars,
00:37:02.040 right? Or the SoftBank saying $500 billion. So the Saudis say they're going to put a trillion dollars
00:37:06.700 in. That all may or may not happen. These are companies that are telling their shareholders,
00:37:11.080 making public announcements, and coming to the White House and saying it. These are people that
00:37:14.760 are going on the hook as publicly traded companies. Here's what we're doing. And they're bringing
00:37:18.780 manufacturing jobs back. But what President Trump inherited, and I don't think of the, if I can make
00:37:24.900 one observation about the comps team, I don't think they've done an adequate job of presenting
00:37:30.380 the awful situation that Besant and President Trump were handed on the economy. But it's out there
00:37:38.060 as of yesterday or the other day when he says 1.7 percent growth. The model doesn't work like that.
00:37:45.500 So what does that mean? It means we have to stop the cosplay when it comes to cutting spending.
00:37:51.100 You've got a couple of ways you're going to close this gap. And if you don't close the gap of $2
00:37:55.460 trillion every year, and that's what's baked in right now, folks. Either through growth,
00:38:01.640 you get higher revenue because in the existing tax trucks you have, it just mathematically,
00:38:05.960 the denominator goes up, you get higher growth, you get more revenue, number one, right? Number two,
00:38:12.080 tariffs or external revenue starts to generate additional revenue. Or the companies have moved back here,
00:38:18.340 although it's going to be longer term. They generate product manufacturing, more tax revenue.
00:38:24.100 So you're getting tax revenue either through tariffs externally, or companies are moving back,
00:38:29.560 higher taxes, or the existing tax trucks you have, you have higher growth, you get more cash.
00:38:37.800 But then at the end of the day, you have two things to go. And right now, if you look at those,
00:38:42.680 you still have a gap. What do you do? Well, you can raise taxes. You just can. It's possible. It's
00:38:50.960 nothing. It's not the second law of thermodynamics that you can't. Now, certainly, you can't raise them
00:38:56.240 on the working class or the middle class because, you know, you have 9 million people that have two
00:39:01.180 jobs. It's what, 6-7% of the workforce, two jobs. People are working nonstop. They're working like
00:39:09.040 crazy. Credit card debt's exploding. People can't make ends meet. The other is, wait for it,
00:39:16.120 you can cut spending. And right now, the appropriations process is going to start. It's
00:39:21.180 got to be done. All these single-subject appropriations bills, which we've kicked the
00:39:24.860 can down the road for years, have to be done in the next couple of weeks. That's going to be
00:39:28.080 programmatically. But the waste, fraud, and abuse part has to be now. You just heard Andy Biggs on here.
00:39:35.300 He just gave you a big scoop. What's the big scoop in the first hour? That OMB, in the next
00:39:41.640 couple of weeks, is going to start with the impoundments. Massey sends out a thing today,
00:39:46.900 kind of ha, ha, ha. You know, I told you, if you vote for the CR, Department of Education on there,
00:39:51.400 we got it, Congressman Massey. And we do appreciate the fact you were very, you stuck to your principles.
00:39:55.820 And I agree. It's going to happen. This is why Russ and these guys are going to start coming back
00:40:00.140 with the impoundments. And we're going to have a big old fight. It's going to be every bit as intense
00:40:03.960 as the fight we're having now to ship these criminal terrorists out of the country.
00:40:11.300 And I'm not so sure Roberts and these guys have the stones to back up the president. I just don't.
00:40:19.480 I think we have the legal arguments. I think we have the constitutional arguments. You certainly have
00:40:23.920 the arguments of the destruction of the country. Because if you add a national security,
00:40:28.740 as bad as those terrorists are, and they're terrible, cutting people's arms off, all that,
00:40:33.020 terrorizing people out in Colorado and every place else, the existential threat to take down
00:40:37.140 this republic is this debt that's metastasizing.
00:40:43.600 That means that Doge, and that's what we said, you got to go to the Pentagon.
00:40:48.600 Ways for an abuse are programmatically, and I hate to break it to people, that's a $900 billion
00:40:54.080 defense authorization. And they're asking in the supplemental or in the reconciliation,
00:41:01.480 another $100 billion. That gets, I just do some math. Let's see, $900 plus $100. Oh, we're at a
00:41:05.680 trillion dollars. As a young man, I used to work in that building. I came off sea duty,
00:41:11.140 off a destroyer. I was over there as a special assistant to the chief of operations. I was a
00:41:15.980 grundoon, okay? I was a grundoon. But I saw how it worked, and there's so many good people. They're
00:41:22.320 great people over there. And back then, the budget was nothing compared to Dave. You had told guys
00:41:26.780 back then, hey, one day, we're going to sit here, and we're going to have a $900 billion to a trillion
00:41:31.980 dollar budget, and guess what? We're not going to have a Navy. The Navy's going to be a joke. 0.99
00:41:37.360 They would sit there and go, you're out of your mind. You're insane. Well, no, we're not insane. 1.00
00:41:41.460 We have to get serious, and this is why Doge has to be let go and go through and find out what
00:41:48.620 they can find, a ways for an abuse. The Pentagon is rife with it. They're the first to admit it,
00:41:53.320 rife with it. Now, what you do about it, what he has to see and what he doesn't see, that's all
00:41:58.120 going to be worked out. But you know what? Pete Hexeth is not only a good man. Pete Hexeth is a safe
00:42:03.380 pair of hands. Pete's got some real judgment. He's got the warrior ethos, but he's a safe pair of hands.
00:42:10.400 But we need Doge to get on that, and then programmatically, we have to take this hemispheric
00:42:16.980 defense that President Trump is talking about and laying out. The defense budget is going to be
00:42:21.860 wrapped around that because guess what? Our problem is not the Russian Army anymore. It's just not.
00:42:27.820 It's going to be the Russian Navy from Greenland all the way down to the Panama Canal in the Atlantic,
00:42:32.740 and then the vast heartland of the Pacific or the vast Pacific Ocean, the new heartland of the United
00:42:38.200 States and the three-island chain. Bang, we got it. Western Hemisphere, the island off of the
00:42:43.400 Eurasian landmass, secured. You throw in an Iron Dome, super secured. Let's get a defense budget that
00:42:50.760 reflects that. You're not going to be able to cut anything until you cut defense. I realize they're
00:42:55.820 all sitting there, oh my God, you're Republican, you got to be a hawk. Well, I am a hawk, but I think
00:43:00.960 I'm a smart hawk. Thought this thing through and been around the world at places and sent to God
00:43:09.840 knows where the North Arabian Sea in a carrier battle group and understood, hey, what is smart
00:43:14.260 and what is not smart as a junior officer, okay? And a lot of these desktop admirals are just
00:43:21.020 missing the plot. We have to make cuts to defense. We have to because with cuts to defense, then you can
00:43:26.360 start smartly cutting the social programs. You're going to have to. Finding the waste, fraud, and
00:43:31.680 abuse, which is Doge's mandate. Waste, fraud, and abuse. We have to know that now. We have to know it
00:43:37.340 now. And knowing that we're going to start impoundments in two weeks, guess what, folks? Wait for it.
00:43:43.720 We can impound the money immediately. Then fight it out in the courts. That's what has to happen.
00:43:50.860 That's kind of what the kickoff meeting today. If you read Pete Hegseth's, you know, Twitter feed
00:43:57.120 last night, he said, hey, he's coming over here. We're going to talk to him about efficiencies,
00:44:01.020 effectiveness, that sort of thing, okay? And you can do it in a, and he said it was not going to be
00:44:06.320 a classified way. You can do it enough so they can get onto the waste, fraud, and abuse. We need to
00:44:10.320 know that number. What was not a good sign, the social security, the judge that dropped a bomb of,
00:44:16.840 stopped them at social security. And look, to me, social security is sacrosanct.
00:44:22.040 People have worked all their lives, and they're getting $800, $900 checks. Look, I don't care if
00:44:25.880 the system's good or bad. We can talk about how we reform it, how we think about it going forward,
00:44:29.400 how you make it smarter. But that's why a lot of these folks have worked their entire life in
00:44:33.840 back-breaking jobs as waitresses and in construction sites. They did what they did for decades and decades
00:44:43.020 and decades. They paid into it, and that little 900 bucks, that's what they got. And no, Howard
00:44:48.220 Lutnick, you can't just wait. It just can't skip a month. That's not how the world works, bro. You're
00:44:53.380 a billionaire, multi-billionaire. Your mother-in-law, if it missed you, that's not a problem. Hey, Howard,
00:44:58.160 can you advance for the cash? Not a problem. That's not the world we live in. These people depend upon
00:45:04.940 that. How that happened and how we got here is a different conversation. And I think we got to be
00:45:10.700 prepared to have that conversation, but you have to show the people that you had the discipline
00:45:14.280 to cut the discretionary spending first. And the best way to cut the discretionary spending is find
00:45:20.680 some waste, fraud, and abuse. Let's find it. The disturbing thing, and I'm waiting for the
00:45:24.560 government's response today, the disturbing thing on Social Security, she basically, listen, she read it.
00:45:30.500 She says there's nothing there. You haven't found anything. It's a wild goose chase.
00:45:34.720 We need to know about that. We need to know about that. And I think we got to,
00:45:39.380 the White House has got to go on offense on this. We need to know. We got to see some numbers.
00:45:44.240 Time is ticking. This is a ticking time bomb. Just like I tell you about done with debt in the,
00:45:49.440 in the, in the, in the tax service, Tax Network USA. We got the letter from the IRS. It's a ticking
00:45:57.240 time bomb. The interest payments accrete every day and go, where do they go? They go to add to the
00:46:03.440 face amount of the debt. This is why we're the first one to do the math. I said, you know,
00:46:07.740 we're kind of adding a trillion dollars every hundred days. That's essentially what it is. It's
00:46:14.180 sometimes shorter, sometimes longer. It's not sustainable. And now people say, well, the reason
00:46:21.960 the deficits have never had a thing and the debts all talk and nobody thinks, because it doesn't
00:46:26.260 affect the way. You're talking about future generation. It's like defending democracy for
00:46:29.460 the left. It's a theoretical. It ain't theoretical anymore. It's not the supply chains causing the
00:46:35.840 problem. You may have some of that issue on eggs and some other things. Yes. But the overall problem
00:46:41.400 is that the law of large numbers, the, now the interest payments so huge and refinancing a third
00:46:48.020 of that where, where Scott Besson's got to go out this year and I don't know, sell $10 trillion of
00:46:53.440 government securities. And what are Ray Dahlia warning you about? Ray Dahlia said, Hey, you're going to
00:46:59.560 have a failed treasury auction point blank. You're going to have a failed treasury auction. If we
00:47:05.220 have a failed treasury auction, folks, something so obscure, you've never heard about your life is
00:47:11.180 going to change, not your children's life and not your grandchildren's life, your life. And if you're
00:47:15.960 under 40 years old, your life is going to change to such a degree that you may never, ever get financial
00:47:22.480 freedom ever. That's what they're hiding from you. That's what they don't want to talk about because
00:47:29.680 they don't have the political will to actually make the cuts right now. The business model we have is
00:47:35.440 not sustainable. The only reason sustainable is that every transaction in the world has to be converted
00:47:40.180 into a dollar. So we have the greatest export in history. It's called a greenback. And even that the
00:47:47.560 world's sitting there going, man, this thing is so devalued. The purchasing power drops because the
00:47:51.820 elites over there won't get it together. And the BRICS nations form up and say, Hey, we got rubber
00:47:57.220 and tin and oil and gas and all this other stuff. And maybe we hold it back and maybe we form together
00:48:02.000 and maybe we, maybe we get some sort of, uh, you know, gold back currency. That's why it's important
00:48:08.320 for you to go. Don't listen to me. Learn it yourself. You owe this to your country and you owe it to
00:48:15.760 yourself. This is why the Birch Gold, we've done all the work on the end of the dollar empire to put out
00:48:19.500 debt and deficit and modern monetary theory. Why? We said, you're smart enough. You need to
00:48:25.240 understand these ideas that have driven it and driven it and driven it and driven us into the
00:48:29.100 ground. It can't go on anymore. And you and this generation have to make that decision. No, we're
00:48:36.420 not going to do this anymore. And yes, it's going to have some pain. They said, they go, Oh my God,
00:48:40.920 it's going to be pain. It's going to be pain. What in the hell did you get us into?
00:48:43.960 And the phoniness of running around with the oligarchs. You're so phony. You can't, 1.00
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00:49:09.500 you join us here, sacred human health. Make me feel better. Couldn't have got myself all worked
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00:49:19.920 get energy and make myself healthier. Take it away, sir. Yeah. I appreciate it once again, Steve.
00:49:26.400 And yeah, obviously I've mentioned a few of our products fairly recently. Last time I highlighted
00:49:32.040 the grass fed beef liver, which is great for overall health today. I wanted to just focus a little bit
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