Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 776： Leftist Activist Attorneys In Brazil Go After Eduardo Bolsonaro

00:00:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:00:30.000 about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:38.580 And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:48.720 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:58.700 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:01:02.040 It's Tuesday, 27 May in the year of our Lord, 2025. We're about to have shocking news coming out of Brazil. Eduardo Bolsonaro is going to join us in a moment.

00:01:14.220 I want to go to California and Steve Hilton. Steve, you heard about the fiasco in Texas, and in Texas is about as red as you can get. It's a MAGA state. President Trump won by 14 points. Ted Cruz won by nine points.

00:01:26.680 Knowing that, sir, why are you running as a populist candidate in the state of California? Is there any hope? Is this a protest vote? Are you on a crusade to make populism better known? Or you got a shot to win here?

00:01:41.740 I think we got a shot, Steve. By the way, that was shocking to hear what's going on in Texas. I've for a long time been saying California is the worst run state in America. Maybe Texas is now giving us some competition. Look, I'm very serious about this. And here's the path, right?

00:01:58.700 2026, the gubernatorial election in California is a midterm. You're going to have a lower turnout. If you look at the average of the last two years, last two midterms, the vote that you can expect is about 11.8 million to win. In California, next year, you need 5.9 million votes. President Trump just got 6.1 million.

00:02:24.780 If every Trump voter turns out. Now, that is a big if. But if every Trump voter turns out, I'll be the governor. Now, of course, we're not going to get every Trump voter, but there's a huge untapped potential. And this is where it absolutely is all about populism. The people who've been hammered the most by these insane far left policies on climate and the taxes and the regulations, all the rest of the nonsense, the gender ideology in the schools, who really is being hammered the most by that?

00:02:52.740 Working class Latinos, the biggest demographic group, effectively, in California now. And that is the opportunity to lead that populist revolution, common sense, practical policies that make life easier for the working class in California.

00:03:08.800 Steve, brother, hang on. You just had Jay Comey on MSNBC over the weekend with Jen Psaki saying that our party, and particularly MAGA, is white supremacist adjacent. Your response, sir.

00:03:21.200 So I've been spending time in East Los Angeles, LA County, the biggest in the nation, 10 million people, most of East LA, heavily Latino, working class Latino. That's where I've been spending my time. They haven't seen a Republican there like ever. And you go there. These are the most conservative, common sense people you're going to meet. And they love President Trump. They love President Trump. You ask them about what he's doing on immigration. He's as tough as you are, Steve, in everything that they say.

00:03:49.440 I mean, I have these conversations. I put it out on my social media. Everyone can see. So it is total BS from the establishment. And they can't stand the fact that it's actually the Trump revolution that is mobilizing the working class against the Democratic Party, against the elites and against the establishment.

00:04:07.440 Is the elites that run the California party who have never really embraced President Trump, are they prepared to allow a populist candidate that breathes MAGA to win the primary, sir?

00:04:23.680 Well, I'm going to make sure of it one way or the other. I mean, look, look what happened. There's a very important example. It's why I launched my campaign in Huntington Beach in Orange County, biggest city in Orange County. Just over four years ago, the city council was run 6-1 by Democrats.

00:04:40.940 In 2022, a friend of mine who's now the co-chair of my campaign put together a slate of candidates, four of them, called themselves the Fab Four. They took over. They immediately started, they won and took control of the council, started removing homeless encampments, prosecuting crime, getting the nonsense out of the school libraries.

00:04:59.960 They put voter ID on the ballot. They put voter ID on the ballot. All these common sense things. Just now in November, they ran a slate of seven candidates. Very important detail. They called themselves the Magnificent Seven. They weren't running away from Trump. They were embracing it. And they all won. So you've got that city. It's gone from 6-1 Democrat to 7-0 Republican in four years. And it was just rated the best run city in California.

00:05:26.360 So to me, that is the model. That is how we do this, by embracing this populist revolution. And I don't know, the establishment, as far as I'm concerned, they've been losing for decades. It's time we won.

00:05:40.480 Steve, last question for now. We're looking forward to getting you back here. Is Kamala Harris going to be your opponent in the fall of 26?

00:05:48.300 Look, I hope so, because the way I put it is the candidate who's going to win in 2026 is the candidate for change. And no one least represents change than Kamala Harris, who's been knocking around in California politics for two decades. 0.97

00:06:02.300 What we're hearing is that she's been told by the donors and by the machine that she's got no support to run for president.

00:06:10.220 So if she wants to do anything, it's this. But I'd say it's not some consolation prize because she made such a disastrous presidential candidate.

00:06:18.660 I don't know if she's going to do it. I hope she does it because we're going to get a massive amount of support from the whole country to beat her again. 1.00

00:06:26.480 So bring it on as far as I'm concerned. Steve, everybody that knows you and everybody working with you, Fox says you're an incredibly nice guy.

00:06:34.020 Are you too nice for modern blood sport, hand to hand combat politics, sir?

00:06:41.520 Well, I don't know. I've been pretty aggressive in taking apart these Democrats. Their record is so disastrous on every measure that matters.

00:06:50.240 We are the worst in the entire country. Newsom running around bragging about how we're the world's fourth biggest economy.

00:06:56.200 We have the highest poverty rate, the highest unemployment, all these things, right? I'm not shy of taking it to the one party rule.

00:07:03.160 We have 15 years of one party rule and I'm going to stick it to them. So I don't know.

00:07:07.580 Maybe I'll do it with a smile on my face, but I'm not going to hold back.

00:07:14.040 Steve Hilton, where did people go to find out more about you and more about your campaign, sir?

00:07:19.580 Thank you, Steve. So you can follow me at Steve Hilton X on X.

00:07:23.360 We've got a ton of video we're putting out every day. I'm on the road the whole time at Steve Hilton X and the campaign website, Steve Hilton for governor dot com.

00:07:35.580 Steve, thank you so much. Go with God. Godspeed on this.

00:07:38.620 Thank you. Tough fight. Long odds, but you're a tough guy. Thank you, brother.

00:07:42.440 Thank you.

00:07:42.640 Eduardo Bolsonaro. The Bolsonaro is one of the most important families in all world politics, been heroes to the people in Brazil, heroes to people throughout the world.

00:07:51.400 You know, Eduardo, my sister, every night, every time for blessing, she she specifically

00:07:58.460 praise for your family, your father. And now we're adding you specifically talk about what's happened here over the last 48 hours in Brazil to now.

00:08:11.560 Not just your father's on trial essentially for his life because they want to put him in prison forever and him assassinated in prison.

00:08:17.360 Now they're coming after you. How did how did we get into a situation that, quite frankly, the U.S. government, I know people are working on it, but have not dropped the hammer on these radical judges.

00:08:27.640 And now we have you being investigated, sir.

00:08:39.380 OK, Eduardo, I think you've got your mute on. You're going to have to take your mute.

00:08:42.300 Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. My fault. Sorry.

00:08:44.660 Yeah, that's OK. Go ahead. Take it from the top.

00:08:48.740 Last week, Representative Corey Mills from Florida, he asked in a hearing for Secretary of State Marco Rubio about the possibility that the Supreme Court Justice from Brazil,

00:08:58.760 Alexandre de Moraes, could be sanctioned with all-fac sanctions through the Global Magnitsky Act here in the United States,

00:09:08.060 if Trump could sanction Alexandre de Moraes, this crazy justice from the Supreme Court that banned the acts from Brazil,

00:09:16.520 that detained Jason Miller for a couple of hours in Brazil, that is doing a lot of terrible things and persecuting all the right-wing people in Brazil.

00:09:24.540 And Rubio answered, saying that, yes, this issue is under analysis in the United States,

00:09:32.860 and probably Alexandre de Moraes is going to be sanctioned by the Trump administration.

00:09:38.260 So after this, then the establishment in Brazil woke up and realized that the work that we are doing here in the U.S.,

00:09:47.240 together with people from the Congress, from the Republican Party, and also from the Trump administration,

00:09:53.980 this work is serious, and Alexandre de Moraes is under a high risk to be sanctioned.

00:09:59.900 So now they are, like, really debating what to do.

00:10:05.000 And yesterday, the attorney general asked Alexandre de Moraes to open a new investigation against me in Brazil.

00:10:14.580 But this, Steve, is not something against me, because they know that they cannot touch me while I am in the U.S.

00:10:21.180 I'm talking here now from Dallas, Texas.

00:10:23.380 But it's a message to everybody in Brazil that if they are doing that with the son of the former president,

00:10:31.080 the most voted-ever congressman in the history of Brazil, the former chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee,

00:10:38.200 imagine what they could do with anyone else in Brazil if they do the same thing that I do,

00:10:44.680 which basically is criticize the Supreme Court.

00:10:47.360 So I think we are very close to sanction Alexandre de Moraes.

00:10:52.760 And something that they are really concerned in Brazil is because they already know that the U.S. intelligence

00:11:00.320 mapped all the lawsuits that belong to the wives and the families of some of the justices of the Supreme Court.

00:11:09.180 So this is how they earn a lot of money.

00:11:11.700 This is how a justice of the Supreme Court in Brazil, with a monthly salary of $6,000 or $7,000,

00:11:18.380 can have, you know, Patek Philippi watches of hundreds of dollars.

00:11:22.720 And they are really, like, they are really crazy with that.

00:11:29.160 Eduardo, do they, you know, Lula, correct me if I'm wrong,

00:11:32.700 he went to, I think, the VE Victory in Europe commemoration in Moscow with Xi and Putin.

00:11:40.160 And then I believe he went to Beijing with Xi.

00:11:45.540 The relationship of Brazil is getting closer and closer every day with the Chinese Communist Party, is it not?

00:11:52.320 Yeah, that's true.

00:11:53.360 A couple of months ago, Lula da Silva, president of Brazil, signed with Xi Jinping 37 agreements

00:11:59.200 about energy, satellite communications, uranium, exchange programs for media, and a lot of other issues.

00:12:07.320 And this is very important because it can be the turning point to Brazil really belongs, you know,

00:12:14.360 an influential area from China and really cutting all the relations with the United States.

00:12:19.760 We do not have very good relations nowadays with the United States.

00:12:23.560 I mean, the Lula administration with the Trump administration.

00:12:26.120 And it's really hard because Lula is really going to the hands of China.

00:12:32.700 Even the former, the current first lady of Brazil, during a dinner with Xi Jinping,

00:12:39.280 she asked Xi Jinping to interfere in TikTok because she said that TikTok in Brazil is a platform

00:12:47.000 that is serving the right-wing politicians.

00:12:50.800 And she doesn't want that.

00:12:52.480 She wants censorship. 1.00

00:12:53.560 So even this is on the table.

00:12:55.560 And Xi Jinping said that he's going to send a special envoy to Brazil to take care about the TikTok, 0.76

00:13:01.960 to stop with this, as they said, this good influence of TikTok for the right-wing politicians in Brazil.

00:13:08.840 So just so people understand, the investigation they're trying to open, what are they trying to do to you?

00:13:16.220 They already got your father in this kangaroo court, and they're going to find him guilty because it's all rigged, right?

00:13:22.760 Your father did absolutely nothing wrong, right?

00:13:25.960 He did what every patriot in Brazil should do is question that stolen election because the election was stolen.

00:13:30.680 What are they specifically coming after you, and what's the risk that they could be able to try to do something bad?

00:13:39.080 We understand you can't be extradited.

00:13:40.760 You're beloved here in the United States, not just the Trump administration, so many different people in this country.

00:13:45.860 But what are they trying to prove on you?

00:13:49.960 They are accusing me of a violent abolition of the rule of law.

00:13:57.240 They're saying that I'm anti-democratic man working against the institution of Brazil, against institutions like the Supreme Court of Brazil, and I'm a threat to democracy.

00:14:08.940 These crimes combined can bring me to the jail for more than 12 years in jail.

00:14:15.180 And this is coming from the nothing, because last month, the same attorney general said that what I was doing here in the United States, it was completely legal.

00:14:23.240 But now that they woke up and they listen to Secretary Marco Rubio talking that they probably are going to sanction more rights, now they overturn everything, they change their mind, and they are disperated.

00:14:37.040 They don't even try to fake, to look at someone that is following a law or is following any kind of democratic rule.

00:14:47.000 They just say that we are going after you, and that's it.

00:14:50.040 They want to show themselves as someone very scary, you know, to people be afraid to tweet or to post on social media.

00:14:59.960 This is the point.

00:15:01.060 And not only me, they also just summoned my father to be listened in this same investigation, because my father said in an interview that he was helping me with money, sending money to me here in the United States.

00:15:17.440 And now they want to listen to my father, the former president, Jair Bolsonaro, about this relation with me.

00:15:23.360 You know, they are trying to stop me here in the United States by taking my family in Brazil.

00:15:28.860 It's usual as all of the dictatorships all around the world.

00:15:33.020 It's like the Cuban doctors. 0.69

00:15:34.320 When you have any country hiring Cuban doctors, their families, they stay in Cuba as hostages. 0.99

00:15:41.820 Just like me, I'm exiled here in the United States, but my father is in Brazil, and he has a travel ban on him.

00:15:49.800 He doesn't have his passport.

00:15:51.160 He cannot travel abroad.

00:15:52.720 This is how this regime is working in Brazil.

00:15:55.620 That's why we ask all of the authorities here in the United States to sanction Alexandre de Moraes as fast as possible, to not give room to them to try to overturn this situation.

00:16:07.740 Thank you so much.

00:16:37.720 My social media is Bolsonaro SP.

00:16:44.460 It's like my last name, Bolsonaro SP.

00:16:48.220 Unfortunately, we do not have Rumble in Brazil.

00:16:52.260 Alexandre de Moraes didn't let Rumble go to Brazil.

00:16:54.800 And also because of that, if you are watching me from Brazil, you cannot watch the videos on Truth Social, because Truth Social, they use the same service of Rumble in the platform.

00:17:08.180 But in all of the other social medias, I'm Bolsonaro SP.

00:17:12.380 I don't know until when I will have them.

00:17:14.740 Because Moraes, he's also asking about my social medias, because he says that I'm threading him through social media.

00:17:22.220 You know, he's a very sensitive man for sure.

00:17:24.160 So they wanted to go down with all of that.

00:17:27.980 This is how a regime tried to sustain, tried to brief on the last moment.

00:17:33.500 And I do believe that their end is very soon.

00:17:37.720 It's going.

00:17:38.340 It's coming.

00:17:38.780 It's definitely coming.

00:17:42.260 And if he's a sensitive guy, he better get ready to be sensitive in prison, because when Bolsonaro, Captain Bolsonaro, wins again, he's definitely going to prison.

00:17:51.740 Eduardo, we got your back on this one.

00:17:53.500 Thank you so much for taking time away.

00:17:54.820 Thank you, Beno.

00:17:55.600 Bye-bye.

00:17:56.200 He's leaving by a lot.

00:17:57.620 He's leaving by a lot.

00:17:58.740 That's why he got him in court.

00:18:00.240 Same thing with Le Pen in France, Bolsonaro.

00:18:03.780 He's leading Lula, because Lula's driving the country into a ditch.

00:18:07.840 People in Brazil know that.

00:18:09.980 That's why this is so outrageous.

00:18:11.460 This is lawfare.

00:18:12.440 This is what they try to do to Trump, put him in prison.

00:18:15.220 They're doing the exact same thing to your father.

00:18:16.960 It's actually more dangerous because they want to assassinate your father in prison.

00:18:20.940 And now they're coming after you because you're the biggest supporter and you're the next generation.

00:18:26.300 It's outrageous.

00:18:27.340 Sir, yes.

00:18:29.200 Sir, yes, that's it.

00:18:30.320 We'll get all the social media up.

00:18:32.360 When you look at the bigger picture, you know what is coming.

00:18:34.400 So what we have to do is we have to resist.

00:18:37.780 We have to fight back.

00:18:38.880 If they want to silence us, that is the moment that we have to speak.

00:18:43.160 And I really need to thank everybody in the White House who is opening their doors, all the congressmen and the senators that we are talking.

00:18:51.200 And I hope, God, that very soon Magnitsky sanctions are going to arrive on our eyes.

00:18:58.780 And let's see their reaction because we have a very good project to stop him and get back again the normality of democracy of Brazil.

00:19:06.960 Brother, thank you so much.

00:19:11.240 Eduardo, we got your back on this one.

00:19:13.800 Thank you very much, Steve.

00:19:14.980 Eduardo Bolsonaro.

00:19:16.700 What an incredibly brave family, incredibly brave, with the entire state apparatus of these Marxists.

00:19:23.820 Lula, one of the worst cretins on earth in this judge, the Supreme Court Judge Morales, even worse. 1.00

00:19:29.040 Those sanctions are coming as sure as the turning of the earth.

00:19:32.680 OK, Rabbi Willecki has done such a magnificent job of connecting dots of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:19:39.240 Let's play a cold open for him.

00:19:41.600 Then we'll go right to him in Jerusalem.

00:19:44.760 We discussed Iran and we discussed where Israel's position was.

00:19:49.300 And I also delivered the message on where the president was.

00:19:52.100 And the president will never accept a nuclear capable Iran. 0.71

00:19:55.680 He will never accept them having nuclear weapons and building the capacity to that.

00:19:59.620 The intelligence information that they have and that Israel has and they share with the United States and that we also have and are using for those conversations is critically important.

00:20:09.580 So I think the message to the American people is, is we have a president that wants peace, but also a president that will not tolerate nuclear Iran capability in the future. 0.86

00:20:21.680 They will not be able to get a nuclear weapon and this president will not allow it.

00:20:26.000 But he also wants to be this.

00:20:28.000 He wants this prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to be on the same page with him.

00:20:32.540 Okay, Rabbi, I'm, I'm, I'm, first off, I'm confused.

00:20:38.260 We, I think we got enough chefs.

00:20:39.900 You got Marco Rubio, you got Steve Witkoff.

00:20:43.160 Uh, you've got, uh, you got the ambassador, you got Huckabee.

00:20:46.320 No, we got it.

00:20:46.920 We got a good team and I'd love me some Kristi Noem, but I thought we were deporting bad guys out of here.

00:20:52.500 Why is Kristi Noem in Israel or Tel Aviv having discussions with Netanyahu on, on nuclear Persia, sir?

00:21:00.900 Well, Steve, if you don't mind, right before I get to that, I have to make a comment about Eduardo Bolsonaro.

00:21:07.460 It's an honor to be on the show right after him.

00:21:10.380 Just a few months ago in January, there was a young Israeli named Yuval Vagdani, a survivor of the Nova Festival massacre, who also served in the IDF,

00:21:19.700 who after his army service went on a visit to South America with some friends and they were in Brazil.

00:21:25.180 And some pro-Hamas organization reached out to the Brazilian authorities and asked them to investigate him for war crimes.

00:21:33.200 And the Brazilian federal court, we all know how corrupt they are, they started investigating this young man for war crimes.

00:21:39.340 And it was Eduardo Bolsonaro, none other than him, who stepped in and fought the fight to get them to back off and, uh,

00:21:46.920 and helped this young man get out of Brazil safely.

00:21:49.280 And he's, uh, the Bolsonaro family has been great friends of Israel for a long time.

00:21:53.320 I just wanted to point that out.

00:21:54.720 It's a great, uh, it's a great honor to be on the show after him.

00:21:58.440 Um, as, as for Kristi Noem being in Israel, look, the official reason has to do with the, with the horrible murder of two staffers from the Israeli embassy who were murdered in Washington, D.C.

00:22:10.940 last week.

00:22:12.560 And because Israel has, of course, a great interest in this investigation, uh, uh, into, and into not only the killer, we know who the killer was,

00:22:21.420 but all of the ties that this killer has and all the jihadist, uh, red, green alliance, uh, factions in the United States that are behind these types of activities.

00:22:30.240 Israel's very interested in this.

00:22:31.700 So officially she, she came over to pay a visit to honor, uh, the two deceased, uh, staffers.

00:22:39.440 She planted a tree in their memory and it was a diplomatic visit, but she also, as you saw in that clip, she came here to talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu and relay a specific message about the Iran negotiations.

00:22:51.720 And from the reports that we're getting, it's very clear that she wanted to make sure, she said it there herself, she, she wanted to make sure that Prime Minister Netanyahu, that the, that Israel is not about to launch attacks on Iran,

00:23:06.000 to launch strikes on Iran while these negotiations are going on, scuttling the negotiations.

00:23:10.860 They want to make sure that Israel's on the same page.

00:23:12.940 And that's what she meant there when she said that she wanted to let, let things play out.

00:23:17.000 But it appears that there is agreement and they do see eye to eye.

00:23:21.940 I spoke to some people in the prime minister's office today just to make sure I was reading things right.

00:23:26.740 And, uh, the, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu do see eye to eye on the, uh, on the idea that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

00:23:37.020 And this cannot be stressed enough.

00:23:38.280 There seems to be some confusion about this.

00:23:40.080 There's, uh, there's a lot of people claiming that Iran plans is, is building a civilian nuclear program, which they are not.

00:23:46.980 That's an absurdity.

00:23:47.800 They have some of the cheapest electricity in the world and one of the largest.

00:23:51.960 Hang on.

00:23:52.700 As you know, we're, we're adamant about no nuclear weapons with the Persians.

00:23:57.160 Uh, but, um, you can't do that with a verification because isn't this what we're coming down to?

00:24:02.260 The non-kinetic, uh, alternative is I think a, uh, an embargo, a blockade.

00:24:09.100 You cut the oil off to the CCP, which is their partner.

00:24:11.740 We, everybody, this is one of the reasons I wanted to have you follow Bolsonaro because it's two sides of kind of the same coin.

00:24:18.860 What's happening to the Bolsonaro is driven by Lula, who's a partner of Xi.

00:24:23.520 He's all over Xi.

00:24:25.080 It's just like the mullahs in Tehran. 0.94

00:24:26.780 This thing is, you can connect the dots.

00:24:28.580 What's happening in South Korea, our great allies in South Korea and the radicalness of these, of these kids, uh, who don't have a ton of information, but have these strong opinions.

00:24:39.160 It's all being, you know, today we had, uh, uh, uh, Mina Kim and some great, uh, people from, you know, Colonel Mills, Ambassador Tan, live from Korea saying, hey, the CCP is all over.

00:24:51.360 You got Chinese paramilitary, Chinese policemen walking the streets.

00:24:54.760 Uh, it's pretty shocking.

00:24:56.260 So how do we get, you can't have a verification program.

00:24:59.700 You have to have a take it apart program.

00:25:01.780 Do you believe, or are people in Israel at the highest levels believe that we can actually get to a diplomatic solution or a non-kinetic where it's actually not verification?

00:25:11.180 Because you can't trust these guys.

00:25:12.620 They're crazy.

00:25:13.440 They're bad guys, but they're also not dealing in like the Cartesian universe.

00:25:18.360 So to talk about a verification, hell, we wouldn't do that in Iraq forever.

00:25:22.020 Obviously we found out it was, it was nonsense, right?

00:25:24.780 And the weapons of mass destruction information was gun decked, but can you have, can you go down the path of a negotiation where it's just to verification or does that have to lead to a, a, a solution that actually takes it apart brick by brick by American authorities, not UN, but American authorities, sir?

00:25:43.880 It has to be taken apart brick by brick by brick.

00:25:47.720 Let's remember that they don't live in democracies that have elections every four years.

00:25:52.760 And even though, you know, sanctions could be very crippling, and I'm, I'm very much in favor of crippling sanctions.

00:25:58.660 In the first Trump administration, they could not sell their oil or any of their petrochemical products pretty much to anybody.

00:26:05.080 I think only North Korea was buying them and they were dead broke.

00:26:08.720 They didn't have money for Hamas and Hezbollah and they were on the verge of collapse.

00:26:12.620 Now, whether they were, you know, whether they would have collapsed, had Trump walked into the Oval Office, as he rightly should have in 2021, had, had, would they have collapsed by now or not?

00:26:25.840 Hard to say, but it looked like they were on the verge of collapse.

00:26:28.420 And I'm in favor of that.

00:26:29.600 The problem is that, as you say, without verification, they could wait it out and they don't care how much their people starve and they, you know, as long as they can control them.

00:26:38.660 And right now they are teetering in that regard.

00:26:41.360 But they, they, if they feel their calculuses and, and Pazeshachian, however you pronounce his name, the president of Iran, who's really just a mouthpiece, just the other day said, we're not afraid of sanctions.

00:26:54.060 We will, you know, we'll, we will get through the hard times of the sanctions if we need to, but we're not going to stop enriching uranium.

00:27:02.720 And Khamenei said it, has been saying it over and over again.

00:27:05.280 They're not going to stop enriching uranium.

00:27:06.640 Rabbi, hang on, hang on, hang on one second. 1.00

00:27:10.900 We're going to come right back.

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00:33:54.160 So Rabbi, go back to this about actually really stopping their nuclear program in a non-kinetic way.

00:34:01.300 Is it possible?

00:34:02.420 President Trump is kind of betting the ranch on this.

00:34:05.060 He says he can do it.

00:34:06.100 He's trying to end the kinetic part of the Third World War in Ukraine.

00:34:10.440 He's trying to get a Russian rapprochement.

00:34:12.420 He's trying to end this war in Gaza.

00:34:14.580 He's trying to assist Israel in doing this.

00:34:17.840 He makes sure he's pretty adamant.

00:34:19.320 I don't want bombing runs into Persia because it'll only drag us into something deeper, and I want to end these wars. 1.00

00:34:26.080 You're very dialed in at the highest levels of the Israeli government and military.

00:34:30.480 Is this a fantasy that we're chasing, that those of us that support Israel say, hey, there's something that can really be done here, President Trump being at the lead and Kristi Noem laying it out?

00:34:39.340 Is it real?

00:34:40.420 And are people in the Israeli government and military really on the same page with President Trump?

00:34:46.940 Well, I'll just put it in Prime Minister Netanyahu's terms.

00:34:49.960 He just said it to the Israeli people the other day.

00:34:52.080 He said, listen, we're fine with a deal if it actually verifiably dismantles Iran's nuclear program.

00:35:00.240 But it can't be one of these things where it just kicks it down the road for a few years or they're still allowed to enrich uranium and there's just kind of like some oversight.

00:35:11.280 Because then when the next U.S. administration comes in, we're back to square one as long as it's actually verifiable.

00:35:17.560 Now, we have serious doubts, especially the Iranians have been digging in, especially over the last couple of weeks since President Trump's visit to Qatar. 1.00

00:35:26.400 I'm going to put things right on the table, Steve.

00:35:28.500 When President Trump was in Qatar and he basically said that the Iranians should be thanking the Qataris because he basically admitted that he kind of made a commitment to the Qataris not to attack Iran.

00:35:43.980 And the problem here is that without a credible threat, a credible threat of kinetic attacks, the Iranians will dig in on their positions. 0.90

00:35:55.340 It's not that we that we're just sitting here war monitoring, asking for attacks.

00:35:59.880 It's that there has to be a real credible threat.

00:36:02.780 Otherwise, the Iranians are not going to back down and they're not going to and they're not going to they're not going to cooperate in the negotiations. 0.65

00:36:08.120 And they're already signaling.

00:36:09.900 As I said before, Khamenei said it the other day.

00:36:12.540 Peser Shkazian said it.

00:36:13.640 And the foreign minister, Iraq, she said it yesterday.

00:36:17.600 They will not stop enriching uranium.

00:36:20.940 They they're thumbing their nose at the at the United States.

00:36:24.020 So we have our doubts.

00:36:25.540 And from Israel's perspective, this is an existential issue.

00:36:28.920 If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, whether it's now or 10 years from now, if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, that is an existential threat to Israel. 0.83

00:36:36.780 One big mistake that Westerners make is that we assume that these people have motives similar to ours.

00:36:42.820 It's not just that they're not in the Cartesian universe, as you said, Steve.

00:36:46.080 They are ideologically driven.

00:36:48.360 And you hear it so often from Western diplomats.

00:36:51.160 They say, well, you know, we could buy them off.

00:36:53.060 It's economic.

00:36:53.700 You know, we can you know, maybe they just want to have a civilian nuclear energy program, which they don't.

00:37:00.760 They have the cheapest and most plentiful natural gas in the world.

00:37:03.780 They don't need nuclear energy.

00:37:05.660 Obviously, they're doing this and and incurring all these sanctions.

00:37:10.200 And, you know, to the tune of trillions of dollars that it's cost them over the years.

00:37:14.060 They're not doing that because they need to save a couple cents on energy that they already have in plentiful capacity.

00:37:20.780 They have a lousy grid, but the nuclear reactors aren't going to help them with that.

00:37:24.980 The Iranians are trying to build a nuclear weapon. 0.99

00:37:27.520 And as if if a negotiation can actually stop it verifiably, yeah, we're in favor of that.

00:37:33.160 But Israel, Israel has an existential problem we have to deal with. 0.95

00:37:36.880 So, of course, as Kristi Noem said, we need the Americans. 0.53

00:37:39.440 We need to be on the same page.

00:37:41.320 And we also know that the longer we wait, the longer Iran has to rebuild its air defense.

00:37:46.980 And let me add something, Steve.

00:37:48.480 And here I'm going to push back a little bit.

00:37:50.120 We talk about attacking Iran would drag us into something more. 0.99

00:37:55.460 Iran doesn't have much of a ground force anyway.

00:37:59.140 Iran's military capabilities are very much their missile program, their drone program.

00:38:06.380 And, you know, to quote one general here in Israel who I thought put it very nicely, Amir Avivi.

00:38:10.580 You've had him on the show.

00:38:12.700 Bringing down Iran is not the beginning of a war.

00:38:16.700 It's actually the end of a war.

00:38:18.160 It's much more similar to the bombing of the Japanese at the end of World War II.

00:38:22.740 Unfortunately, I know.

00:38:24.580 But unfortunately, I know.

00:38:27.780 But unfortunately, with 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is zero.

00:38:32.880 That argument will never play in.

00:38:34.120 Oh, I understand.

00:38:34.540 I understand.

00:38:35.340 I understand why.

00:38:36.300 I understand why Americans, why Americans. 0.97

00:38:38.380 In fact, I don't I don't I don't believe it.

00:38:40.960 I know they've got no their air defense is nothing.

00:38:43.740 But you're talking about an ancient civilization that if attacked like that, it's just not going to roll over.

00:38:48.840 So I totally disagree.

00:38:49.600 Let me go to another topic.

00:38:50.940 This is about this global intifada, the red green merger.

00:38:53.600 You've been great on CCP involvement everywhere, the black hand of the CCP.

00:38:57.480 You've also been one of the top guys, the red green merger.

00:39:00.020 And I don't have this fully.

00:39:01.340 I'm just getting this very partially.

00:39:03.000 I just want to throw it out there where I got you that the assassin, this young guy, Gonzalez or Rodriguez, that that there's now some text messages or people.

00:39:12.720 And they're saying, hey, he wasn't anti-Semitic.

00:39:14.640 He didn't hate Jewish people.

00:39:16.180 He hates the Jewish state.

00:39:17.840 He thinks the Jewish state is a genocidal state and that anybody that works with the genocidal state is therefore, by definition, a war criminal and is open to be assassinated.

00:39:28.480 But he's got no problem with the Jewish people.

00:39:30.680 And he's certainly not anti-Semitic or a Jew hater.

00:39:33.600 Your thoughts.

00:39:35.640 Sure.

00:39:36.260 He has nothing against the Jewish people, so long as the Jewish people don't define themselves as an actual nation. 0.88

00:39:41.960 And so long as the Jewish people don't define themselves as an ancient nation, we have an unbroken chain of record of exactly who we are and where we've been for thousands of years.

00:39:53.500 So he has no problem with Jews who are completely disconnected from their history and their heritage and don't want to have their own nation state in their ancient homeland, of course.

00:40:02.900 So, yeah, he's going to tell us what Judaism is and then say that the Judaism in his head he has no problem with. 0.67

00:40:09.080 But he actually has a problem with actual Jewish nationhood.

00:40:12.700 That's his problem.

00:40:13.880 I would call that anti-Semitism. 0.94

00:40:15.780 Again, I don't care what's anti-Semitism or not.

00:40:18.620 That's not the point here.

00:40:20.040 Look, this is a guy indoctrinated by what you call the Red-Green Alliance. 0.75

00:40:23.700 He was active in BLM.

00:40:25.720 He was active in all sorts of socialist Marxist causes.

00:40:28.880 He also hates Israel.

00:40:30.620 When we talk about the Red-Green Alliance, we're talking about the Muslims, the jihadist Muslims, and the leftist, atheist, socialist Marxists that have come together. 0.62

00:40:44.280 It's the same thing as Iran and the CCP working together. 0.58

00:40:48.300 It's the Marxist socialists and the jihadist Muslims who despise Western civilization. 1.00

00:40:55.320 They despise the Judeo-Christian foundations of Western civilization. 0.91

00:40:59.740 And nothing is more abhorrent to them than the fulfillment of biblical prophecy by the Jewish people after thousands of years returning to our homeland and reconstituting our nation state with Jerusalem as its capital.

00:41:12.720 There's nothing more abhorrent to them than that.

00:41:14.860 You know, first of all, the fulfillment of prophecy must scare the living daylights out of them.

00:41:21.460 But look, this goes back to the wars between the Christians and the Muslims over Jerusalem.

00:41:27.320 Who controls Jerusalem is really what it's all about. 0.82

00:41:30.580 You know what Hamas calls this war?

00:41:32.920 This October 7th war, they have a name for it.

00:41:35.240 They call it the Al-Aqsa Flood.

00:41:37.220 Al-Aqsa is their name for the Temple Mount.

00:41:39.120 As far as they're concerned, as far as Hamas is concerned, this war is about Jerusalem.

00:41:44.860 And that's really what this whole conflict is about.

00:41:47.980 When you talk about Bolsonaro versus Lula, you're talking about a Christian versus a Marxist.

00:41:53.780 You're talking about Bolsonaro who understands that Israel is fighting on the vanguard of the defense of Western civilization.

00:42:02.160 And that's why Bolsonaro supporters typically bring Israeli flags to their anti-Lula rallies, which is an interesting thing, because they understand that Israel's struggle is the kinetic front lines of the global struggle against this combination of Marxists and jihadists who are trying to take down the biblically-based Judeo-Christian West.

00:42:23.320 That's what this is all about.

00:42:25.100 This kid who assassinated those two staffers at the Israeli embassy is the avatar for the entire Red-Green Alliance. 0.99

00:42:33.680 Here he is, declaring now in text messages that he has no problem with Jews.

00:42:37.920 He has no problem with Jews. 0.63

00:42:38.960 He has no problem with some Jews who are just eternally scattered in the exile and aren't really that committed to their Judaism. 0.56

00:42:45.880 That he's fine with.

00:42:47.120 But actual Jews who believe in Judaism, who embrace their Jewish heritage and nationality, who want to have their own nation state in their ancient homeland, those are the Jews he has a problem with.

00:42:58.320 In other words, he has an actual problem with the real Jews, with Jews of the Bible, with Jews who are fulfilling the destiny of the Jewish people for thousands of years.

00:43:10.440 That's what he has a problem with.

00:43:11.460 This is the Red-Green Alliance on American soil, attacking Israel, and Americans need to wake up. 0.97

00:43:18.120 Americans really need to wake up.

00:43:19.140 You look all over the world, and the populist, nationalist, Christian right everywhere in the world is adamantly pro-Israel.

00:43:26.560 Whether it's the Orbán supporters, the Vilders supporters, the Vox supporters in Spain, go down the list.

00:43:32.300 They all understand that Israel's fight is the battle for Western civilization. 0.59

00:43:35.460 And somehow, somehow in America, in the America First movement, too many, too many in our movement, Steve.

00:43:42.940 And I say our movement, I've been part of MAGA from the beginning.

00:43:46.260 Too many in our movement have lost the plot.

00:43:51.320 Rabbi, where do people go to get all your writings and your social media?

00:43:55.040 The best place to follow my updates from Israel is the Israel 365 YouTube channel.

00:44:04.440 You can also follow my podcast, the Shoulder-to-Shoulder Podcast on all podcast platforms.

00:44:08.620 And I'm at RabbiPW on X and Getter.

00:44:15.260 Thank you, Rabbi.

00:44:16.300 Appreciate you staying up late tonight in Jerusalem to join us.

00:44:19.840 Appreciate you.

00:44:20.680 Thank you.

00:44:21.640 God bless, Steve.

00:44:22.280 I imagine that will start a few conversations.

00:44:28.320 Jackie Toberoff.

00:44:29.460 Jackie, this piece, we're on this about Christianity, the Judeo-Christian West, radical jihad.

00:44:37.640 You bring up a quite unpleasant topic in your, but one we have to address in your article.

00:44:43.620 What is it, ma'am?

00:44:45.500 So let me connect everything for you.

00:44:48.560 Churches are on the brink of extinction.

00:44:51.800 Synagogues are declining. 1.00

00:44:53.980 This is the basis for Judeo-Christian America. 0.95

00:44:58.320 What is surging is mosque growth, 165%. 0.98

00:45:03.460 And with that, we see a spike in Islamists here in America. 0.93

00:45:09.720 And we have to ask, are these things correlated?

00:45:12.660 How many of these mosques have been radicalized, creating radical Islamists doing what happened

00:45:20.320 in D.C. and terrorizing Colombia and in Michigan and, quite frankly, throughout America?

00:45:27.920 So here's the question.

00:45:32.020 Is it because the vibrancy and urgency of the faith, like there's so many liberal Jewish parts of the Jewish religion?

00:45:44.880 There's so many – the mainstream Protestant and also the mainstream Catholic has gotten so liberal.

00:45:50.200 They're falling off.

00:45:50.940 You see these traditional, like Latin mass Catholics, Rabbi Walicki and his group.

00:45:57.160 The conservative, the ones getting back to tradition are growing and they're vibrant, but they're smaller than the official.

00:46:03.120 Are we just losing our faith?

00:46:04.680 Is the Judeo-Christian West losing their faith in the basic core spiritual part of what is the foundational element for us?

00:46:13.780 And the jihadists are on the rise because however they indoctrinate people, however they have formation, they just have more intensity right now.

00:46:23.440 Ma'am.

00:46:24.500 I mean, there's something called separation of church and state.

00:46:27.360 And what's so amazing about this is that they are against, when I say they, you know, educators, and really many Americans are against, for very valid reasons, having Christian law or Jewish law rule.

00:46:44.340 Why isn't it the same thing with Islamist law? 0.86

00:46:48.180 There is separation of church and state.

00:46:50.760 And what is going on with these mosques is some of them are tied to Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.

00:46:58.480 They've been linked in the Holy Land trial as unindicted co-conspirators for funneling money to Hamas.

00:47:06.240 So really what needs to happen is some sort of forensic accounting of some of these mosques. 0.99

00:47:12.400 Because quite frankly, we don't have a Jewish terrorism problem and we don't have a Christian terrorism problem.

00:47:18.840 We have a real problem here in America with Islamists. 1.00

00:47:22.980 And we have to see if this is correlated to the surge in mosques and for sure.

00:47:30.040 But Jackie, Emma, you just had Comey on.

00:47:34.000 We played the clip earlier in the show about Comey sitting there going, the problem is one party, that would be the Republican Party, specifically the MAGA wing of it, is white supremacists adjacent.

00:47:45.220 And they would actually argue, as they did when they ran the deal, and this is why we've got to take it apart, that their idea is the biggest threat to the country is Christian nationalism, of which they say is just a front for a white supremacist terrorist organization, ma'am.

00:48:01.940 Right.

00:48:02.420 This is the same sort of thing that Eric Adams used.

00:48:05.420 Eric Adams, New York City Mayor Eric Adams, when he was talking about the subways, he blamed it on white supremacists and figments of our imagination.

00:48:12.600 It's total lies.

00:48:13.780 People see through this.

00:48:15.600 The issue is, is that even though we are experiencing some sort of Islamist fatigue, it's boring seeing these daily riots and occupations and, you know, screeching downwardly mobile people. 1.00

00:48:29.500 But nonetheless, we've been infiltrated and we really have to look at if this thing in D.C. is a lone wolf or if they are just creating more Muslims and non-Muslim extremists.

00:48:44.420 Yeah, because this young man didn't look like an Islamist.

00:48:51.180 In fact, he looked like a neo-Marxist radical that had come up and his formation had been in kind of that – when we talk about the Red-Green Alliance, theirs was the Marxist part of it where he hated capitalism.

00:49:03.720 He hated the United States of America.

00:49:05.160 I think somebody just sent me a text that he was talking about he's a supporter of a white genocide, a genocide against whites, but the twisted ideology that twisted him.

00:49:15.520 So what is our way out of here?

00:49:17.020 Your report is – this article is amazing.

00:49:19.800 What is your recommendation?

00:49:20.800 What's the way out?

00:49:22.380 I think there are a couple of things.

00:49:23.900 We need to look into Nate and ISNA and the explanation for what both of those nonprofits are is in the article.

00:49:30.100 So for time, I'm not going to get into it, but we should look into those.

00:49:33.220 I think we should not allow churches to be sold, repurposed.

00:49:38.780 We really have to protect the Judeo-Christian American ethos.

00:49:43.320 Maybe there should be a cap on how many mosques should be built. 1.00

00:49:47.320 I'm not quite sure what the solution is, but something has to happen because we are losing the plot here.

00:49:55.300 I mean, there has to be some sort of –

00:49:58.020 Can I say this in England?

00:49:59.360 You're saying right now you want to see a moratorium on any more church structures that are turned over to real estate developers that become these mini malls or boutiques like the Magnificent Church in New York City, I think on 6th Avenue, that was turned into a nightclub, and now it's some sort of boutique.

00:50:15.880 You say for right now you want to see a cessation of all that?

00:50:19.820 Yeah, and I'll tell you what the real issue is with this.

00:50:22.460 It's Islamism is really the reordering of government according to Sharia law.

00:50:29.140 There should be some sort of federal ban on Sharia law. 0.94

00:50:33.140 I don't want to wear a hijab. 1.00

00:50:34.660 No one in Tribeca does.

00:50:36.220 No one in New York City does.

00:50:37.480 We don't want hijabs, and we really need to do something to combat this poisonous ideology that has completely overtaken our American institutions of higher education. 1.00

00:50:52.700 Jackie, where do people go to get your articles, all your writings, and social media?

00:50:57.800 You are on fire, ma'am. 0.99

00:50:59.520 Thank you, sir.

00:51:01.920 Please go to my Instagram, Jacqueline4NYC.

00:51:05.100 That is J-A-C-Q-U-E-L-I-N-E-F-O-R-N-Y-C. 1.00

00:51:10.100 Subscribe, and that's it.

00:51:12.980 You can find me there.

00:51:15.200 I like this idea about churches.

00:51:17.700 I'm going to contact you afterwards.

00:51:19.060 We've got to talk to you through.

00:51:19.840 Jackie Tororow, thank you so much.

00:51:21.280 You're a fire breather.

00:51:22.960 Thank you.

00:51:23.780 You're what we call it in New York City.

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WarRoom Battleground EP 776： Leftist Activist Attorneys In Brazil Go After Eduardo Bolsonaro

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