Bannon's War Room - July 07, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 803： CIA Lied About Their Involvement With Oswald And The Murder Of JFK


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

161.56297

Word Count

8,723

Sentence Count

626

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Eduardo Bolsonaro is the son of former Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and the current candidate for the presidential election, Jair Bolsonara. Eduardo has been living in exile in Texas, but is fighting to return to Brazil.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:19.360 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:23.340 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:28.960 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:30.960 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:32.380 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop
00:00:34.800 it.
00:00:35.800 It's going to happen.
00:00:36.800 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:00:39.740 Mega Media.
00:00:40.740 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:46.740 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:50.400 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:56.640 War Room.
00:00:57.640 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:00:59.520 Bannon.
00:01:04.520 It is Monday, 7 July, Year of the Lord, 2025.
00:01:09.880 What a last 72 hour, I mean, the amount of news and information and huge things that are happening
00:01:17.020 are just accelerating at an accelerating rate, and that's what happens, as you know, in a
00:01:21.220 fourth turning, of which we are in.
00:01:23.620 I want to go back to Eduardo Bolsonaro.
00:01:25.820 So look, the President of the United States came out as hard as I've ever seen him, and
00:01:30.680 he basically put Morales on notice.
00:01:32.800 I got my eye on you, right?
00:01:35.200 I don't like what you're doing, and you're not going to do it to this guy.
00:01:38.880 You're not going to throw him in prison when this is all about you.
00:01:42.820 This is all about electoral politics.
00:01:45.640 One more time, Eduardo, your thoughts, and particularly the fact that not only is your
00:01:49.780 father leading in the polls, and this is why Lula, the Marxist and the CCP puppet, one
00:01:55.960 of the reasons that she didn't come, what was the reason she said he didn't need to go
00:01:59.700 to Brazil?
00:02:00.580 He said, I've had Lula here twice in the last couple of months.
00:02:03.160 I don't need to see him anymore.
00:02:05.260 I've given him his orders.
00:02:06.800 He knows what he's got to do.
00:02:07.860 So not only does your father lead, Eduardo, but you also now lead Lula.
00:02:14.340 Your thoughts, sir?
00:02:17.540 Yes.
00:02:18.200 It shows a lot that the idea is alive.
00:02:21.980 It doesn't matter what they are going to do with Jerry Bolsonaro.
00:02:24.400 People really want someone from Bolsonaro family or really a right-wing one to lead the
00:02:29.960 country again, because now they are realizing that Lula is not for real.
00:02:33.720 Lula, he had a good background in the mind of the poor people, because when he was president
00:02:40.620 at his first and second term, he had so lucky that China was buying everything from Brazil,
00:02:47.240 all the soft commodities, the prices were growing up.
00:02:50.500 So he had the money enough to do quite some assistencialist programs.
00:02:54.700 But nowadays that we do not have that money, and again, people is realizing that he's not
00:03:00.860 delivering what he promised during the campaign.
00:03:04.440 Like he said, clearly that he was going to bring back again to the people's life the barbecue
00:03:09.720 of the weekend.
00:03:10.720 But nowadays, the meat is really expensive.
00:03:13.720 That's why I also believe that Lula da Silva, he's not going to be successful trying to build
00:03:18.960 a narrative saying that, oh, Brazilians, let's go, everybody stick together against a foreign
00:03:24.460 enemy, you know, go home, Yankees.
00:03:27.300 He cannot do that, because the real life of the people is really bad.
00:03:31.880 And it's so bad that even Bolsonaro or his son, me, we are leading the polls.
00:03:37.300 And for sure, on the next polls, the numbers will be even better to us.
00:03:42.180 So this is a dead government.
00:03:44.120 And there is no way that they keep in power next year.
00:03:48.340 The only way that they have to do not let someone from the right wing, from the Bolsonaro
00:03:53.760 family to get elected, is going through the courts.
00:03:57.300 Without the courts, they are going to be swept from the political scenario of Brazil.
00:04:05.940 Eduardo, you're here because they would essentially arrest you and try to do the same thing to you
00:04:12.360 if you went back to Brazil.
00:04:13.220 This is how much they fear the Bolsonaro family and the movement that you've inspired in Brazil,
00:04:19.740 like President Trump has inspired the America First and the MAGA movement here in the United States.
00:04:24.900 You're a hero.
00:04:25.920 If people knew the effort that this man did for his father and his country every day,
00:04:34.600 they would just be overwhelmed with what a patriot you are for your country and for your citizens.
00:04:40.420 It's been very inspiring to me.
00:04:43.280 Where do people go to keep up with their story on social media?
00:04:45.860 Thank you very much, Steve.
00:04:48.620 On social media and most of the social medias, I am Bolsonaro SP in the end.
00:04:54.280 And I really appreciate your words.
00:04:55.780 I'm living in exile now in Texas because if I go back to Brazil, they are going to put me around 12 years in jail.
00:05:02.720 Now I'm under investigation in Brazil.
00:05:05.160 They just opened a new investigation, say, accusing me of the crime of the violent abolition of the rule of law,
00:05:12.160 only because the Secretary Rubio said that probably they were going to sanction Alexandre de Moraes,
00:05:19.040 this crazy justice from our Supreme Court.
00:05:23.640 Eduardo, fight on.
00:05:25.040 Thank you so much for joining.
00:05:27.080 And President Trump, I think, came in and threw down as hard as he could possibly throw.
00:05:30.360 So it's a great day for Brazil, great day for the Bolsonaro movement, and a great day for freedom everywhere.
00:05:37.240 Thank you very much, Steve.
00:05:38.600 I appreciate you.
00:05:41.480 Paulo, you've been, once again, we've been colleagues.
00:05:45.640 You've been a fighter on this, I don't know, for the 10 years, 12 years I've known you, eight years I've known you.
00:05:50.660 Put in perspective, given all the work that you guys have done, others working with Eduardo,
00:06:00.440 why is this so important, what President Trump did today, sir?
00:06:05.060 Well, Steve, thanks for having me.
00:06:07.500 Well, we finally have President Trump on board regarding Brazil.
00:06:10.580 This is actually the first time he talks about Brazil since he returned to the presidency.
00:06:15.320 Remember, he invited President Bolsonaro, one of the very few leaders that he invited to.
00:06:20.120 His inauguration in Bolsonaro couldn't come because Justice Marais seized his passport and banned him from travel abroad.
00:06:27.740 And now you have finally President Trump.
00:06:29.660 I think he has been very busy recently, as you have been talking about, especially with this nonsense going on in Iran.
00:06:38.060 But I think he's in a more quiet week.
00:06:42.180 The big, beautiful bill passed the House and the Senate, and now he can focus on the rest of the world.
00:06:48.680 And I'd say the first country he turned his attention to was Brazil, and he hit Brazil pretty hard.
00:06:55.740 And there's a reason for that.
00:06:57.060 Brazil is the most important country of the Southern Hemisphere.
00:07:00.460 From a geopolitical perspective, Brazil has everything you need to have in a war.
00:07:04.540 It has a lot of people, 220 million people.
00:07:07.680 It has the second largest iron ore produced in the world, one of the top three food producers in the world.
00:07:14.080 Who controls Brazil controls the South Atlantic Sea.
00:07:18.740 And China has been taking over the country in a speed that you cannot believe.
00:07:23.340 It's so fast.
00:07:24.940 And also you have this BRICS nonsense going on, trying to undermine the dollar.
00:07:29.020 You have the support that Brazil gives to Hamas and to Iran, specifically.
00:07:34.300 Iran just thanked Brazil for what's going on.
00:07:37.260 And on the free speech turf, Brazil, which is the second largest market for most social media platforms, Brazil just last week approved the most restrictive social media regulation in the Western world, even worse than what's going on in Europe with their digital law.
00:07:56.460 So, for all these reasons, President Trump looked at Brazil, saw his close ally, the Trump of the tropics, President Bolsonaro, and not only him, but his whole national populist movement being crushed, not by the population, because Bolsonaro is more popular now than ever, but by the courts, more specifically the Supreme Court of Brazil, and more specifically this crazy Justice Moraes.
00:08:25.200 So, Donald Trump posted this true social post, and it was hard, man.
00:08:33.440 It was very hard.
00:08:34.460 And it looks like it's anticipating something heavier coming in the next, I'd say, weeks, most likely, which are OFAC sanctions against Moraes.
00:08:45.220 And these sanctions are different from visa sanctions.
00:08:47.900 The OFAC sanctions are something very powerful that the United States has on its arsenal, which prohibits anyone from doing business with any U.S. entity or U.S. persons.
00:09:02.380 Meaning, your money gets frozen anywhere in the world because most banks do business with the United States.
00:09:08.840 They have access to the SWIFT system, which is a U.S. dollar-based system.
00:09:12.940 You cannot get a hotel at Marriott, for example, or Intercontinental or whatever.
00:09:19.040 You cannot fly most airlines.
00:09:21.840 You cannot have a Facebook account.
00:09:23.860 You cannot have a Google account because all of these are U.S. entities or U.S.-based entities.
00:09:29.360 And even Brazilian banks have their counterpart here in the United States who can have access to the dollar.
00:09:36.060 So, what Moraes really needs, and it's the only way to stop him, is to get him sanctions.
00:09:42.980 And it looks like President Trump is heading this way.
00:09:45.360 I really hope he is.
00:09:47.280 Yes.
00:09:47.620 And that's going to change completely the political scenario in Brazil because we'll give leverage for this movement.
00:09:54.620 Yeah, it's so many people in Capitol Hill, so many people in the populist nationalist movement that are saying we have to do this.
00:10:00.920 One of the reasons, and this is why we have a team in Rio right now, the Birch Gold team, Lula, who came with all this because he'd been in prison for corruption, he came with all this.
00:10:10.100 What people remembered him as, he's a caricature of himself.
00:10:13.960 I would actually say the Bricks could have made actually more moves, but he's just – he's too old, too disengaged.
00:10:20.920 Marius is like a Batman villain.
00:10:22.720 I mean, this guy is as bad as they get, and he's got to be dealt with.
00:10:27.240 This is why the OFAC sanctions, I believe, strongly are going to come.
00:10:31.120 Just take a minute or two, though, and describe for audience maybe some of them just coming into the story right now of who this guy is and why he's actually much more dangerous to freedom around the world than someone like Lula, who's clearly past his prime.
00:10:46.160 Well, Lula's a puppet.
00:10:47.500 You've got to remember that Lula was put back there by Marius.
00:10:50.460 Marius was the – is a chief – not a chief justice, but it's a justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court who started and conducts all the investigations against Bolsonaro and his supporters.
00:11:01.020 I am being sought by Marius.
00:11:03.040 He wants to send me to prison.
00:11:04.720 The only reason I'm not in prison is because I'm here in the United States.
00:11:07.600 But not only me as a journalist, several other journalists, U.S. people have been targeted.
00:11:13.320 American citizens have been targeted by Marius.
00:11:15.780 You have been targeted by Marius.
00:11:17.300 You are under investigation by him.
00:11:18.880 Elon Musk is under investigation by him.
00:11:21.040 Jason Miller, Donald Trump's former spokesman, has also been – investigation, has been detained by Marius in the country.
00:11:29.640 He shut down Rumble in Brazil.
00:11:32.160 Rumble, this show is not being transmitted on Rumble in Brazil because Marius shut down Rumble.
00:11:36.440 He shut down Axe for a few months in Brazil.
00:11:39.100 So he's the de facto dictatorship of Brazil.
00:11:42.980 And he's the one behind all this phrase in his social media regulation that was approved in the country.
00:11:48.060 So he's the main censor of the country.
00:11:50.540 And he's also the one that's persecuting all the national populist movement, Bolsonaro's movement in Brazil.
00:11:56.900 And he is the rapporteur.
00:11:58.920 He's conducting the trial that's going to send Bolsonaro to prison in the next 50 days if nothing happens.
00:12:05.720 So he's calling the shots.
00:12:07.640 He's a very important figure and very much aligned with the global elite.
00:12:15.340 Paolo, why is it such a bombshell that Eduardo, the people of Brazil are speaking, even if we – and by the way, the effort is to make sure that Jair Bolsonaro can run.
00:12:26.900 But even if he couldn't, the second poll shows Eduardo is ahead of Lula.
00:12:31.420 What does that information tell us?
00:12:35.420 Well, first of all, Eduardo is becoming more and more popular because people are seeing the work he has been doing in the United States.
00:12:42.440 To be honest, anyone that Bolsonaro endorses, including Eduardo, will win the election in Brazil if we have an election.
00:12:51.140 That's the case.
00:12:51.900 Because as you pointed out very well when you were talking to Eduardo, they stole the election in 2022 through the electronic machines.
00:12:59.760 And they might as well just steal again in 2024 and give it to Lula.
00:13:05.100 Or they're trying to come up with a solution that's a candidate that's a Bolsonaro ally in name but has all the policies that they like.
00:13:14.300 And it's very cozy to China, which is the governor of Sao Paulo, Tarcísio.
00:13:18.320 So they're trying to come up with this compromise.
00:13:21.000 Well, let's not have Bolsonaro and let's not have Lula.
00:13:24.700 Let's have this guy, the governor of Sao Paulo.
00:13:26.800 He is a friend of Bolsonaro.
00:13:29.220 He can pardon Bolsonaro in the future.
00:13:32.060 But this guy, in all his policies, he's not a bad guy.
00:13:34.900 He's not a bad person.
00:13:35.820 But he is very much aligned with Marais, with the global elites, and with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:13:41.880 So that's what's going on in Brazil right now.
00:13:44.200 So the only alternative we have is let's sanction Marais.
00:13:47.600 Let's isolate him.
00:13:48.880 Let's threaten the other justice and the rest of the political establishment with sanctions for them as well if they keep playing this game.
00:13:56.800 And let's reestablish Bolsonaro as a candidate, which is fair because it's what the people want.
00:14:04.860 Paulo, thank you so much for the effort, for helping to quarterback this with Eduardo.
00:14:09.100 So it's been such a long – if people knew what these guys did, the work they put in, the meetings they had, the relentlessness, and stick to it to this, that's where we reached this day.
00:14:18.780 And from this day forward, it's going to accelerate at an accelerating pace, sir, I might say.
00:14:24.420 Paulo, where do people go to get all your content in this great fight?
00:14:28.540 Well, I'm at Rio P. Figueiredo.
00:14:31.160 I know my last name is hard to pronounce.
00:14:34.820 But there's Rio P. Figueiredo 08 as well because Marais just banned seven of my previous accounts in Brazil.
00:14:44.080 So I have this account just for Brazil.
00:14:46.960 That's the number eight.
00:14:47.880 That's why you see.
00:14:49.220 But at Rio P. Figueiredo, that's my main social media handle.
00:14:56.240 Paulo, I love you, brother.
00:14:57.540 You're a good one to be in a trench with, I'll tell you.
00:14:59.560 Tough fighter.
00:15:00.440 Thank you, brother.
00:15:01.080 Thank you for doing this.
00:15:01.900 I can say the same, Steve.
00:15:03.420 Thank you for all the support.
00:15:04.420 Brazilian people love it.
00:15:05.140 OFAC sanctions next.
00:15:07.280 No, you guys are the best.
00:15:08.560 OFAC sanctions next.
00:15:09.860 President Trump, what a proud movement of people that work with him and for him.
00:15:14.680 It's just incredible.
00:15:16.080 Poso is here.
00:15:16.700 Poso, I want to get your thoughts on Brazil, particularly President Trump's throwdown.
00:15:21.120 I've got Noor, we're going to get back up in a second, a little technical problem, and Joe, both of them in Geneva.
00:15:26.760 Poso, your thoughts today, we've got a lot to talk about.
00:15:30.420 All right, let's start with the Bolsonaro's before I bring Noor and Joe back in.
00:15:39.940 Let's also remember that President Trump also focused on another node of BRICS, and that's what this is all about.
00:15:46.580 It's all about BRICS, the S in BRICS, which is South Africa, and he's been focusing on the South Africans.
00:15:53.220 We certainly saw what he did when he brought Ramaphosa, the South African president, to the Oval Office recently.
00:15:58.760 And so he knows that these are ways to put pressure and leverage on Iran through China, but then also in terms of a deal with Russia, because people need to be very clear about what's going on.
00:16:11.860 And President Trump, I think, understands the situation a little bit more than possibly than definitely all the mainstream media, because these BRICS systems, a lot of them are being designed in conjunction, as the guest was saying, with Russia and China directly.
00:16:27.260 So China's got the bank, but Russia is designing a lot of these systems.
00:16:30.140 Look, you've got BRICS Pay, BRICS Bridge, BRICS Clear.
00:16:33.480 There's even BRICS Re.
00:16:35.480 So BRICS Re, BRICS is introducing, Steve, you'll appreciate this, an entire reinsurance system so that they can get around all of the U.S. systems out there.
00:16:45.980 They've actually thought this through, and they've been building it for decades.
00:16:50.600 People need to get very serious about BRICS.
00:16:53.700 By the way, that's what the Vietnam deal was all about.
00:16:55.900 Vietnam's going into BRICS now, but if China's been trying to use them as a backdoor to get around the sanctions, that's why he did the deal first.
00:17:03.200 And Scott Bessent, the Secretary of the Treasury, on Vietnam.
00:17:08.120 Brilliant.
00:17:11.680 Hang on for one second.
00:17:12.540 I've got something else I want you to make comments and observations on.
00:17:16.200 Noor bin Laden, let's go back to Geneva.
00:17:19.020 Noor, you've been our expert in Geneva to say, hey, look, everything in New York and the U.N. is all for show.
00:17:24.960 The real work of the U.N. and the demonic nature of the U.N. is in Geneva.
00:17:29.520 That's where World Health is, the education, the UNESCO, the Chinese Communist Party are up to their eyeballs and running the deal.
00:17:36.760 So once again, every time they have these conferences, they have these nice, happy, like pixie dust names.
00:17:42.720 What are they trying to sell us on artificial intelligence?
00:17:45.440 This sounds like another World Economic Forum meeting, but it's just taking place in July, ma'am.
00:17:52.380 Yes, to your point, Steve, every time they have these conferences, you know, which I cover, whether it's the World Economic Forum in Davos, the World Health Organization, the United Nations, and now the United Nations, specifically with the International to Communications Union organizing this conference on AI specifically.
00:18:15.880 There is one very specific reason why they do these gatherings, why they get together, and that is for a PR operation.
00:18:24.980 They want to let the public know what they are actually doing, what they are planning to roll out, and this is the entire infrastructure that we keep talking about, the globalist infrastructure.
00:18:35.860 And now specifically, we're talking about artificial intelligence and everything, all the changes, the societal changes that are going to happen with the implementation of this technology.
00:18:47.700 And this is precisely what the fourth industrial revolution is about, what Klaus Schwab has been talking about for years, what all these technocrats have been setting in motion for years, you know, going back to Henry Kissinger, going back to the Club of Rome, and, you know, their seminal work, The Limits to Growth.
00:19:06.900 All of this has been leading to this very moment where they are so close to implementing all of this technology.
00:19:13.820 And I would like to quote, you know, Joe Allen from his own book, you know, Dark Eon, a very simple and short quote.
00:19:21.840 He said, we are being primed for submission and threatened with obsolescence.
00:19:26.880 This is the key thing here.
00:19:28.920 This is our obsolescence that we're talking about.
00:19:31.320 And when they bring out, you know, Harari, when they bring out Schwab, when they bring out these so-called AI godfathers who are now sounding the alarm after decades and decades of developing all of this technology,
00:19:45.960 saying that we have to be extremely careful, that they are so scared because there is going to be so much loss of jobs.
00:19:54.800 This was precisely the goal, our own obsolescence.
00:19:59.940 And they are trying to freak us out, rightly so, because the prospects are absolutely terrifying.
00:20:06.500 But in order to then justify the implementation of all this governance, which is necessary, absolutely, when it comes to AI,
00:20:16.240 but obviously they're going to implement it in a way that serves the ruling elite and that further encroaches upon our own rights.
00:20:29.300 Joe Allen, by the way, I got posted on it, but go back to Unhumans in a second.
00:20:34.200 It sounds like, Joe, Jack, your book, which is a year ago today, really called this when you hear Noor talking about that.
00:20:41.520 Joe Allen, you're back there also.
00:20:43.500 This conference is important enough when the U.N. doing it that we wanted Joe to be there with Noor.
00:20:48.700 We're going to have wall-to-wall coverage on this thing.
00:20:50.360 Whatever we can put up on the shows, we're going to have interviews, all of it.
00:20:54.220 What is your take, given that you spent the last three or four or five months going around to different conferences,
00:20:59.580 talking to all the top people in the U.S.?
00:21:01.800 What are your thoughts if this AI for Good conference kicks off in Geneva?
00:21:07.240 Well, like I said earlier, Steve, and to echo what Noor just said,
00:21:14.140 the goal ultimately will be to try to hammer out and come to some kind of agreement on how to regulate AI from a global perspective.
00:21:25.160 I'm sure there'll be people speaking from a nationalist perspective, but it's the U.N., it's Geneva.
00:21:30.580 The main goal will be global governance.
00:21:34.480 With guys like Hinton, guys like Roman Jampalski, and guys like Joshua Bengio,
00:21:42.580 it's really intriguing that these people are absolutely convinced that there is a very, very high likelihood
00:21:50.640 that the full fruition of artificial intelligence, something that's, in a sense, baked into its teleology,
00:21:58.520 the full fruition will lead to either mass job displacement or mass enslavement or mass extinction,
00:22:09.480 the complete destruction of humanity.
00:22:12.300 I'll be very interested to see how they're able to hold those two ideas at the same time.
00:22:19.040 AI for Good or Summoning the Digital Demon?
00:22:23.080 I guess we'll have to find out.
00:22:24.180 Me and Noor, I cannot wait to see the look on Hinton's face if Noor encounters him
00:22:31.700 and starts hitting him with some of her hard questions.
00:22:34.060 But hang on, let me, Noor, I'll come back to you, but Joe, in the time we've got, we've got about four minutes.
00:22:42.380 It's there to talk about global governance, but as you see in all these aspects,
00:22:47.080 and maybe I'm wrong about this one, it's the accelerationists that want to push their agenda forward.
00:22:52.860 It's the four horsemen of the apocalypse that have the most to gain from this.
00:22:56.700 I'm not slowing the whole thing down.
00:22:58.760 Noor, is that your take?
00:22:59.960 Is that we're still, that for the decelerationists, so just the people say,
00:23:03.740 let's stop and catch our breath, whether it's global regulation or just something that says,
00:23:08.540 how do we proceed forward collectively on this versus the accelerationists?
00:23:13.780 I mean, what's your take on things?
00:23:16.740 Well, first of all, I'd like to say that I think we all should breathe a sigh of relief last week
00:23:21.640 with the fact that the AI moratorium was excluded from the big, beautiful bill.
00:23:27.460 That was a great sigh of relief.
00:23:29.960 Also, we are still waiting to see what's going to happen with the AI.gov website.
00:23:35.860 It was supposed to go live on the 4th of July, but as of this morning, it still wasn't up.
00:23:40.840 So I'm really looking at the U.S. to see where they are headed,
00:23:45.480 where the Trump administration is headed with everything that relates to AI.
00:23:50.380 But in terms of what's going on with all of these international organizations,
00:23:54.000 they are very much the vehicles of the elite for them to do whatever it takes to further centralize control and create this one world government.
00:24:05.700 And AI is very much a part of that because it will help them accelerate their plans without us, essentially,
00:24:13.960 which is, I think, very much baked into their plans.
00:24:19.280 And if I wanted to leave you guys with an image that I was thinking about is that I would see that the world is like or it's turning into one giant escape game
00:24:29.280 as this infrastructure and this technology is being rolled out across all sectors of society,
00:24:36.180 except unlike escape games, if these people have their way, there will be no escape from this digital infrastructure that they're creating.
00:24:50.780 Nor, where do people go and get you on social media, ma'am, and your site to follow you over the next couple of days,
00:24:58.200 other than the times you're here on Warburg?
00:24:59.620 My sub stack, norbinladen.substack.com, and my Twitter is at norbinladen.
00:25:09.660 Nor, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here.
00:25:12.020 Joe Allen, closing observations and thoughts.
00:25:20.220 He's still frozen?
00:25:21.820 Okay, fine. We'll just get back to you.
00:25:23.320 We lost him? That's fine.
00:25:24.920 We'll get back to Joe tomorrow. It's late there tonight.
00:25:26.980 Joe's been traveling all day.
00:25:28.040 Nor bin Laden and Joe are covering nonstop, wall-to-wall, just like we did in Brazil for the BRICS,
00:25:35.160 this UN conference in Geneva on artificial intelligence.
00:25:39.540 So you know it's going to turn out great.
00:25:41.740 POSO, we covered Brazil and we covered BRICS.
00:25:46.080 The first anniversary of Unhumans couldn't be a better kickoff for that.
00:25:50.500 And thinking about the one-year anniversary than artificial intelligence, Geneva, and the United Nations, sir.
00:25:56.000 Well, Steve, that's absolutely right.
00:25:59.220 And when we talked about Unhumans in the book, people want to say, well, this is a book about history.
00:26:04.020 You're talking about China. You're talking about the Bolsheviks.
00:26:05.880 You're talking about Russia and Mao and Lenin and all the rest.
00:26:08.960 And even going back to the Spanish Civil War and even going into France and the French Revolution.
00:26:13.980 They said, no, this is current events.
00:26:16.580 And what were they trying to do?
00:26:18.000 And we actually reprinted some of the words of Pol Pot himself at his speech where he revealed the existence of the Khmer Rouge, the Communist Party of Cambodia.
00:26:26.700 And what did they say they were trying to do, Steve?
00:26:28.680 They were trying to create the new men, the new men.
00:26:33.280 What is the new man?
00:26:34.740 Well, this is a perfected human, a person who is beyond the limitations of humanity, beyond the limitations of this crude, ethereal stuff that we have.
00:26:46.000 And, of course, what they were talking about back then had to do with ideology.
00:26:50.460 But what you also hear, of course, with what they're talking about with this AI and the infusion of AI cybernetics and the human life form, the human spirit, of course, what are they trying to do?
00:27:03.280 They are once again trying to create new humans and a new humanity.
00:27:08.700 Man, Jack, hang on.
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00:31:38.060 It appears that the CIA has lied for 62 years about this gentleman who ran an operation that came in contact with Oswald,
00:31:46.340 and also the CIA lied about standing up a student group involved in anti-Castro activities.
00:31:54.400 Tell us about it.
00:31:55.180 His name was George Joannides, and he's one of the more interesting characters to emerge later in the narrative of what we understand about the JFK assassination
00:32:06.820 and the way in which the government hid documents and evidence and information about it.
00:32:12.780 For years, he was unknown.
00:32:15.240 Then in 1992, the movie Oliver Stone film JFK came out, created such an uproar that Congress, in a rare act of unanimity, passed the JFK Records Act,
00:32:26.740 requiring disclosure of all records from all agencies related to the JFK assassination by 2017.
00:32:33.540 That got delayed by various reasons, by two presidents, President Trump and President Biden, albeit information was slowly released, but not all the information.
00:32:43.980 We're still waiting on all the information.
00:32:45.760 And in 1998, this little piece of paper caught a researcher's eye.
00:32:50.860 Jefferson Morley is his name.
00:32:52.740 And he noticed that there was a person named Howard who appeared in these documents heading this student group called the Cuban Student Group,
00:33:01.400 or known by its initials, its Spanish language initials, the DRE, based in Miami.
00:33:07.320 However, they had operations in New Orleans.
00:33:09.420 It was a bunch of Cuban exiles who were anti-Castro.
00:33:13.100 And about 105 days before the assassination in Dallas in 1962,
00:33:19.860 these Cuban students wound up in a confrontation in New Orleans with Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:33:25.360 And then they wound up debating Lee Harvey Oswald on local television.
00:33:30.240 Oswald then went to Mexico, then later on was accused of shooting President Kennedy.
00:33:35.800 But after the assassination, immediately after, partly because of the work of the student group and the media attention,
00:33:43.760 everyone knew Lee Harvey Oswald as a communist.
00:33:46.860 And the question was, well, did the CIA have anything to do with the student group?
00:33:51.460 And the CIA the entire time said, oh, no, we had nothing to do with this.
00:33:55.020 We didn't know anything about it.
00:33:56.460 Turns out they did.
00:33:57.680 George Joannidis, the Miami-based operative or officer,
00:34:01.200 who was the branch chief for assistant branch chief specializing in psychological warfare.
00:34:07.220 I'm not making this up, was the guy who ran this group and went by the codename Howard.
00:34:12.500 When then asked for years who Howard was,
00:34:16.200 George Joannidis had been appointed by the CIA to be a liaison
00:34:19.920 with the House Investigative Committee 15 years after the assassination.
00:34:24.340 And Joannidis told all the investigators from the House Committee,
00:34:28.080 I have no idea who Howard is.
00:34:29.580 We have no record on him.
00:34:30.640 Well, that's because Joannidis himself was Howard.
00:34:34.360 He was then given an award for helping obfuscate with Congress
00:34:37.200 and lying to Congress about his involvement.
00:34:39.600 The CIA also lied about that as well.
00:34:41.920 And in 1991, he passed away.
00:34:44.680 But as a result of that dogged work by Jefferson Morley,
00:34:47.940 trying to unearth those files,
00:34:50.040 we now know as a result of Thursday's release that Joannidis was indeed Howard.
00:34:55.060 And he did lead that group.
00:34:56.620 And that's what the records show.
00:34:57.740 Okay, this is a bombshell.
00:35:02.900 This is a bombshell.
00:35:04.800 And Mark Caputo joins us.
00:35:06.740 Jefferson Morley wrote, this guy's a major player,
00:35:09.820 and he found this memo in 98 or 99 in a file just going through and grinding through it.
00:35:16.280 And he's the author of, I think, the best book on Angleton,
00:35:20.000 and all roads lead back to Angleton.
00:35:22.500 Caputo, it's not that they lied to committees.
00:35:26.480 They went out of their way to lie to everybody.
00:35:30.300 The Warren Commission, the House, the Senate, the Church Commission, time again, decade after decade after decade.
00:35:41.460 They didn't know anything about Oswald.
00:35:43.220 They didn't, you know, the guy just for the New York Times wrote the great book,
00:35:47.020 Cruel and Shocking Act, I think, about the history of the Warren Commission.
00:35:49.920 His big get was about how they lied about whoever went to Mexico City a month before the assassination
00:35:59.700 and tried to get a passport to, like, Cuba to set Oswald up.
00:36:04.500 I mean, because the picture, they showed the picture, wasn't it?
00:36:06.760 How big a deal is this?
00:36:08.200 Because it shows you, and we've got a post on, they're having a meeting right now with Netanyahu.
00:36:13.460 And what's the central issue?
00:36:15.800 It's continuing this regime change and pressure on these nuclear weapons,
00:36:20.440 and it's all about Ratcliffe and the CIA and the Mossad,
00:36:23.560 and is the intelligence good, and the president acting in the national security interest of the United States
00:36:28.720 because of what?
00:36:30.160 The central intelligence agency.
00:36:32.860 And here we have the most important thing they've been questioned on in 62 years,
00:36:38.200 is the murder of John F. Kennedy in broad daylight in Dallas, Texas, Dealey Plaza
00:36:44.160 at 1 p.m. Central Daylight Time or 12.30 when they shot him
00:36:48.200 and 1 o'clock when he's given last rights and died.
00:36:51.000 And they went out of their way organizationally to lie.
00:36:55.780 And Johnides is the deputy head of Miami where they ran the whole deal to take back Cuba.
00:37:02.740 Remember, Godfather is sitting there, the casinos, the whole thing's about Havana and Cuba
00:37:07.440 and the money of the corporations and the mob.
00:37:10.940 And also, by the way, he's got a side gig, head of psychological warfare.
00:37:15.160 Caputo, this is a massive revelation, sir.
00:37:19.380 Yeah.
00:37:21.220 If you're going to have a conspiracy, this is how you do it.
00:37:25.040 Because what's really interesting when you peel back the story of the DRE, the Cuban student
00:37:34.880 group that Joe Anides was running, it's this.
00:37:39.500 105 days before the assassination of JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald is on Canal Street, I believe
00:37:48.740 it is, in New Orleans.
00:37:49.880 He's passing out flyers from a pro-Castro group, a fair play for Cuba committee.
00:37:58.020 And these four Cuban, I don't know if they're Cuban nationals or Cuban Americans, but they're
00:38:04.160 definitely from Cuba, who are propped up, financed, and working with George Joe Anides in Miami.
00:38:12.840 They confront Oswald on the street in New Orleans, and they have a confrontation.
00:38:21.260 The Cubans take his pamphlets, they throw it out of the way.
00:38:23.720 Apparently, there's pushing and shoving.
00:38:26.620 There are some reports that say that this confrontation, in the eyes of at least one cop,
00:38:32.500 seemed to be staged.
00:38:34.660 There are others who just believe it was real.
00:38:37.220 Not sure which.
00:38:38.080 But what we do know is this, is that as a result of that confrontation, everybody gets
00:38:43.560 arrested, four Cubans and Oswald.
00:38:47.700 And then at first appearance in court, there just happened to be news cameras there for this
00:38:52.620 confrontation.
00:38:54.220 Now, it was newsworthy.
00:38:55.500 Don't get me wrong.
00:38:56.160 It's certainly in hindsight.
00:38:57.240 It's very newsworthy.
00:38:58.180 And then after the court session happens, after the cameras catch them in the argument in
00:39:07.960 their legal proceedings, Oswald then has a debate on local television with these Cubans
00:39:14.460 about, in Oswald's words, basically why communist Cuba wasn't that bad, why Castro was good, and
00:39:20.820 why U.S. policy was misguided.
00:39:22.540 And then after that, Oswald floats away, goes to Mexico, and then comes back to the United
00:39:28.220 States, and the shooting happens in Dealey Plaza.
00:39:31.660 And it just so happens right after the shooting, Oswald is quickly caught.
00:39:37.080 And all of a sudden, the American media has a lot of information about this guy Oswald as
00:39:42.480 a commie.
00:39:43.920 And it's Joe Aniti's own group, the DRE, in its newsletter that is one of the first ones
00:39:51.280 to publish the idea that, oh, this guy who shot Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, is a pro-Castro
00:40:00.300 communist.
00:40:01.440 It's just an amazing set of circumstances and coincidences that had laid the foundation
00:40:08.440 for this guy being an unhinged pro-Castro communist before the shooting.
00:40:14.080 And all of this was available at the tips of the hands of the American media and of law
00:40:19.960 enforcement incredibly quickly.
00:40:22.620 Again, I can't say exactly what happened, but if...
00:40:27.100 But hang on.
00:40:28.020 But hang on.
00:40:28.600 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
00:40:29.920 Full stop.
00:40:30.500 And I understand you're Axios.
00:40:31.760 You've got to be both hands.
00:40:32.640 You're NBC trained.
00:40:33.480 But in Miami Herald, I think, dude, they were...
00:40:37.220 Okay, I got that.
00:40:38.300 They were asked this under penalty of perjury by the Warren Commission, by the House, by
00:40:44.520 the Senate, by the Church Commission, on and on, decade after decade after decade.
00:40:49.440 And they lied about it.
00:40:50.740 They denied it.
00:40:51.460 Why didn't they just submit?
00:40:52.380 Yeah, we had him on the payroll.
00:40:54.060 They set the thing up and then denied it.
00:40:58.000 The head of psychological warfare and the deputy head of Miami.
00:41:01.400 Yeah, they set the thing up.
00:41:05.400 They communicated with...
00:41:08.420 They contacted, for loss of a better term.
00:41:11.000 They monitored Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:41:13.440 And then after the shooting, the CIA had caused to be published a pamphlet that laid out a case
00:41:20.880 under the guise of this independent student group that Oswald was this killer.
00:41:26.160 And the entire time, not only are they lying about the CIA involvement with DRE, not only are
00:41:32.900 they lying about the CIA's communication or, again, contact with Oswald, but that 15 years
00:41:41.100 later, the House Select Committee on Assassinations meets.
00:41:44.320 And the Congress says to the CIA, hey, look, we're going to need to look at these documents.
00:41:51.200 Can you do us a favor?
00:41:52.780 Can you send us a guy from CIA who had nothing to do with this whole Oswald situation, nothing
00:41:59.620 to do with JFK, just sort of an independent guy in your agency, CIA, who can help us understand
00:42:07.340 what's going on, get us the documents we need.
00:42:09.640 And the CIA says, oh, we've got just the guy for you, a guy who had no involvement in
00:42:14.460 this.
00:42:15.040 His name is George Joannidis.
00:42:16.520 He just happened to be in Miami at the time.
00:42:18.280 He had nothing to do with this stuff, because, you know, Oswald wasn't in Miami.
00:42:21.260 And then Joannidis gets there, and this is according to Robert Blakey, who was the general
00:42:27.760 counsel for the House Committee.
00:42:29.780 He says, point blank, asked Joannidis at one point, hey, who's this Howard guy?
00:42:35.820 And Joannidis is like, no clue, we have no idea.
00:42:38.700 On this Thursday, that's when we find, for the first time ever, there's a CIA document,
00:42:46.440 a memo to Joannidis, it says, hey, you're going to have an alias, and that alias, first
00:42:52.020 name is Howard.
00:42:52.800 It's Howard Mark Glebler.
00:42:56.360 I can't remember the exact last name.
00:42:58.700 It's done with the G.
00:42:59.580 Glebler, pardon me.
00:43:01.540 Howard Mark Glebler.
00:43:02.560 So that is the first time where finally the CIA's cover story or allegation that Howard
00:43:09.400 had nothing to do with Joannidis or any of this stuff, where they finally admitted, okay,
00:43:13.920 look, we lied about that.
00:43:15.400 This is the deal.
00:43:16.440 At the dinner with Gary Hart at the Metropolitan Club, I think it was, with Angleton, he asked
00:43:24.340 him point, he was the deputy head of the co-chairman of the church commission, to look into it, look
00:43:31.660 into everything that the CIA had been done.
00:43:33.720 The House Intelligence hadn't been set up at that time to oversee this.
00:43:36.220 And he asked him point blank, did the CIA have anything to do with the assassination of
00:43:41.200 John F. Kennedy?
00:43:42.020 And Angleton goes, his only answer was, in my father's house, there are many mansions.
00:43:48.760 And Hart went back to Mike Mansfield.
00:43:50.960 Mike Mansfield said, okay, we're not going to go there.
00:43:53.920 We're going to focus on sub-Saharan Africa and what they did there.
00:43:58.240 Mark Caputo, absolutely stunning.
00:44:00.820 Where do people go to get you at Axios, and where do they get you on social media, sir?
00:44:04.180 Mark with a C, Mark A. Caputo on Twitter, X, or whatever you want to call it, and other
00:44:09.880 platforms.
00:44:11.040 I do interact mostly on X, though.
00:44:13.180 And then at Axios, same thing, I have an author page.
00:44:15.800 You can find me there at axios.com.
00:44:20.320 Caputo, great work.
00:44:21.740 Amazing.
00:44:22.340 Thank you, sir.
00:44:23.000 Thanks, man.
00:44:23.740 See you.
00:44:26.160 Poso, two quotes that I remember from that day.
00:44:31.860 John Connolly, when he was there, when he started getting hit and the fire, the bullets
00:44:37.960 were raining down, turned and said, they are going to kill us all.
00:44:43.720 They are going to kill us all.
00:44:45.940 And later that night, walking through a packed hallway with a puffed up left eye, Lee Harvey
00:44:55.600 Oswald said, I've been here for 12 hours, I haven't had an attorney, and they asked you,
00:45:00.900 did you kill the President of the United States?
00:45:02.340 He'd only been, they've only talked to him and charged him with killing Officer Tippett
00:45:06.840 in the street, in that little side street.
00:45:11.300 And he said, I'm a patsy.
00:45:13.880 You know, you're a naval intelligence officer.
00:45:16.420 In fact, that was one of the parts that was tied up in New Orleans.
00:45:19.880 They had a major naval intelligence because New Orleans was actually the trading area for
00:45:25.080 the entire Caribbean from the United States.
00:45:27.320 It was actually, at the time, probably as important as Miami.
00:45:30.400 That's not today, but back then.
00:45:32.820 Your thoughts of this revelation, and tonight, they're having a meeting in the White House
00:45:38.080 about continuing the war in Persia.
00:45:40.320 And it's based upon the very controversial John Ratcliffe and the very controversial intelligence
00:45:47.140 that, I don't know, is the CIA or the Mossads.
00:45:50.660 I have no earthy idea because they have not disclosed that to anyone, sir.
00:45:57.800 Well, Steve, I think we do need to absolutely get to the bottom of anyone or anyone in our
00:46:04.580 United States government, whether intelligence or otherwise, who has information about the
00:46:10.160 killing of President Kennedy.
00:46:12.780 There's no question about that.
00:46:14.340 And, you know, it was at the Kennedy Center just this weekend for the 4th of July.
00:46:18.420 And Ambassador Grinnell had us there to the festivities and were there with the kids.
00:46:22.520 And, you know, I'd like to be able to tell my children that that story one day is what
00:46:26.280 exactly happened to President Kennedy.
00:46:29.460 By the way, Steve, as we're looking at all this coming in, I think Bibi Netanyahu has arrived
00:46:35.100 at the White House.
00:46:36.460 I'm not able to find any video of it yet.
00:46:39.060 There are some videos that have now been released by the prime minister's office.
00:46:43.740 He had Secretary of State Marco Rubio, as well as Envoy Whitcoff over at Blair House earlier
00:46:51.520 in the evening.
00:46:52.560 So they're releasing a few videos there where they had some perfunctory remarks.
00:46:56.680 They had to sit down before he went in with the president, crossed over from Blair House
00:47:00.760 to the White House.
00:47:02.040 I don't think he stayed the night there.
00:47:03.400 He may be staying tonight.
00:47:04.400 But he was certainly using it before he went over.
00:47:07.080 And we're hearing that we're told that he is now at the White House.
00:47:10.620 Yet I'm just looking at Twitter.
00:47:12.260 I can't find any videos of it myself.
00:47:14.140 I do see videos of they've got a protest out there.
00:47:18.480 This is the third time that Netanyahu has visited the White House in President Trump's
00:47:22.520 third in President Trump's second term.
00:47:24.800 This is the third time that Netanyahu has visited President Trump.
00:47:30.380 We know he's been there pressing for these attacks really from the start for a strike
00:47:34.700 on Iran and these nuclear facilities, this uranium enrichment facility.
00:47:39.520 And yes, now we're seeing, of course, these images of the – it's a free Palestine protest.
00:47:45.540 I think they had a Palestinian flag at one point.
00:47:47.500 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:47:49.120 The President of the United States oversaw the most complicated military evolution since Normandy,
00:47:57.720 okay, or maybe the firebombing of Tokyo, right?
00:48:02.900 The President – this is not – they're not celebrating.
00:48:05.220 This is not a moment.
00:48:06.180 This is – they're not proud of what went on here, Tel Aviv, Levin, and this whole crowd of Israel first.
00:48:15.260 There's something very wrong.
00:48:16.660 This is why they stopped – and I'm not saying the Ayatollahs should go, the Ayatollahs.
00:48:19.820 You want the Ayatollahs to go?
00:48:20.800 Take them out.
00:48:22.640 There's something deeply wrong here, and it's predicated upon that Thursday,
00:48:26.000 the sense of urgency in the upsell, the urgency in the upsell.
00:48:30.100 And we have an agency and an institution in this country that says that the official
00:48:36.620 from the Warren Commission, lone shooter and murderer and assassin of the President of the United States
00:48:43.780 in broad daylight was on their payroll, full stop, and then they lied about it for six decades.
00:48:53.280 Jack Posobiec.
00:48:55.660 Well, Steve, I do just want to throw out – there is a breaking report from Israel, actually,
00:49:01.000 about the IDF and a big ambush tonight that took place in northern Gaza in Beit Hanun,
00:49:11.540 where five or six soldiers were killed all at once.
00:49:16.320 Again, early reports – I'm just reading what I'm seeing out there –
00:49:19.040 as many as 10 more injured, huge ambush of Hamas up there in northern Gaza
00:49:24.940 as a couple of these guys were coming down through.
00:49:27.360 So Netanyahu, of course, I'm sure has just been briefed on that that's going on.
00:49:33.940 And so there's real questions, Steve, that are going to come down regarding this ceasefire.
00:49:38.000 Real questions are going to come in regarding, I think, all of this.
00:49:41.600 And ultimately, yes, the question will become where was the intelligence, what came out,
00:49:47.860 what was acted upon, what was the decision-making process, what was the kill chain?
00:49:52.840 What was the kill chain that President Trump ultimately – and in his remit,
00:49:59.200 and it is within his remit to make that choice – but what was the kill chain all the way back?
00:50:04.880 And, of course, when it comes to the CIA – by the way, on a day when everyone is rightfully upset
00:50:12.300 at the intelligence community for covering up the Jeffrey Epstein files.
00:50:18.480 Look, I'm a guy who's got to walk around now.
00:50:21.300 People say, Jack, why didn't you release the Epstein?
00:50:23.700 I went to the White House.
00:50:25.300 I met with the attorney general.
00:50:26.860 She said she was going to release him.
00:50:28.460 She said she gave me something that was going to be a preliminary report.
00:50:31.980 And then guess what?
00:50:33.420 It was already stuff that had come out before, and she said there was going to be more,
00:50:37.500 and there was no more.
00:50:38.160 She went on Fox News.
00:50:39.000 She had the list.
00:50:39.580 There was no list.
00:50:40.520 And now they say there's nothing.
00:50:41.920 So don't sit there and tell me, oh, we know everything, because time and time and time again,
00:50:48.080 we get double talk.
00:50:50.860 The snakes that were around – the Dulleses and the snakes that were around Kennedy
00:50:56.160 and circling around him that murdered him in Dallas, Texas,
00:51:01.400 those snakes still exist, and they're around the White House, and they're around the Oval Office.
00:51:07.700 Today, this moment, as we speak, and if you love President Trump and you back President Trump,
00:51:14.040 we've got to get to the bottom of this.
00:51:16.000 We've got to turf these people out.
00:51:18.740 This republic is in the balance.
00:51:21.220 Jack Posobiec, social media, where do people get you tonight?
00:51:23.640 Because it's going to be, I think, a wild one, potentially.
00:51:25.840 You're going to be at Jack Posobiec, of course, the book Unhumans, one year ago today,
00:51:31.220 unhumansbook.com, forward by the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:51:36.520 You might read it while you're on a flight coming out of Dulles International Airport,
00:51:41.560 but I don't know, Steve.
00:51:42.360 I think we've got to rename that airport.
00:51:43.980 What do you think?
00:51:44.520 We've got to find a Ben Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, something.
00:51:47.760 I don't know.
00:51:48.160 We need a new name over there.
00:51:49.620 Andrew Jackson, maybe?
00:51:50.620 I have to tell you, my beloved kid sister, that's the number one thing on her list, man.
00:51:54.960 She's on me every day about that.
00:51:56.920 Why Dulles' name's still on there.
00:51:58.780 Jack Posobiec, thank you.
00:51:59.760 Eric Tietzel, we didn't get to Eric tonight.
00:52:02.300 We'll get to him tomorrow.
00:52:03.420 The great guys over at CRA, Center for Renewing America,
00:52:06.120 all over the markup on Wednesday in the Senate of the National Defense Authorization Act.
00:52:11.700 There's still plenty awoken there.
00:52:13.420 We're going to get Eric back up tomorrow, go through this entire thing.
00:52:16.300 Get ready to go to the ramparts.
00:52:18.200 I guess you're in the Fight Club, right?
00:52:22.540 You're here because you like fighting.
00:52:24.800 See you tomorrow morning, 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time,
00:52:27.320 when you will be back in the war room.
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