Bannon's War Room - July 28, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 816： Chaos At Jazz Fest; Mythology, Ideology, And Reality


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Stephen K. Bamb is joined by Eric Prince and John Leak to discuss the latest in the Ukraine crisis, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the potential for a deal between the United States and Russia on Ukraine.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:09.720 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:14.980 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:19.240 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:21.180 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:22.600 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:25.260 It's going to happen.
00:00:26.320 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:30.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:31.360 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:36.720 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:40.480 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:46.820 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:00:52.820 Monday, 28 July, Year of World War II, 2025.
00:00:55.440 Welcome back for the 6 o'clock hour.
00:00:56.940 Eric Prince stays with us.
00:00:58.720 John Leak is going to be here on this new kind of blockbuster book he's got about vaccines.
00:01:03.780 He and Dr. McCullough, because the vaccine situation is, as you know, we're pushing that with Make America Healthy Again and Bobby Kennedy.
00:01:10.240 A lot going on.
00:01:11.960 That's what he thought.
00:01:12.540 Leak would be a great, great guest to get you guys up to speed today.
00:01:16.000 Eric Prince.
00:01:16.860 Since the kinetic part of the Third World War started, there have been two million casualties, both a million Russians and a million Ukrainians, although the Ukrainians got a lot of civilians in there, in the Ukraine.
00:01:28.160 I hear there's 300,000 casualties.
00:01:31.540 What I mean by that is wounded and dead in Gaza and, I don't know, 50,000 to 75,000 in Yemen.
00:01:37.720 So this is much bloodier than the first couple of years of World War II after the invasion of Poland.
00:01:42.260 The president of the day called an audible.
00:01:45.380 He went from a 50-day that started, I guess, about 10 days ago to 10 days, 12 days with Putin.
00:01:52.920 And he also, I mean, on Netanyahu, he basically said, hey, you've got to stop the starvation.
00:01:58.820 And that has already caused a bunch of ripples in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
00:02:05.720 What are your thoughts, sir, about the Putin part first?
00:02:08.160 I mean, is this, do you believe President Trump may be getting too far into this?
00:02:13.080 Because it doesn't look like Putin's going to back off, sir.
00:02:18.060 It's summer.
00:02:19.360 It's the time for offensive.
00:02:23.260 They are slowly gaining a few yards here and a few yards there.
00:02:29.140 I think they're trying to grind up on the battlefield, but they can't seem to get negotiating.
00:02:34.960 But I still think, I think there's a deal to be done.
00:02:38.860 I think the Russians want to be done with this as well.
00:02:41.920 I think they want the four districts, the Donetsk, Lahont, Kersen, I think, and Zaporozhye.
00:02:52.920 And obviously Crimea.
00:02:55.680 I think they'd take it at what those boundaries are now or where the front lines are to straighten the lines and be done.
00:03:02.460 I think the Russians demand a little respect. 1.00
00:03:06.520 We've allowed the yapping small European countries that have no militaries and really no skin in the game and have not been spending anything like 2% on defense to make lots of grand claims. 1.00
00:03:22.060 And they're kind of writing checks that their bodies can't cash or that their muscle can't back up.
00:03:29.320 So I don't know why Trump is pulling that forward.
00:03:35.840 What's he going to do?
00:03:36.360 He's going to throw more sanctions on them because whatever Biden did with sanctions, the Russian economy is doing OK.
00:03:44.360 They can still sell gas and oil.
00:03:45.900 Now, the Chinese and the Indians will continue to buy Russian gas and oil.
00:03:52.760 It's going to continue to push in the market.
00:03:54.240 So I'm not sure what net effect those additional sanctions will do.
00:03:58.100 Even even they talk.
00:03:59.640 I think they've talked about they've talked about secondary sanctions.
00:04:02.100 Does that mean the CCP would come?
00:04:04.720 And I think he said 100 percent.
00:04:06.240 I mean, to me, India and CCP, he's very cautious in one level.
00:04:09.600 But if it's secondary sanctions and we now know they've stopped buying that the CCP has stopped buying from the U.S. energy, they're buying from, I mean, coal, natural gas, oil.
00:04:22.580 They're buying it all from looks like Russia and Persia.
00:04:26.840 Secondary sanctions would be would be crippling to the Chinese economy.
00:04:30.600 And President Trump has said this is his leverage he's going to use.
00:04:34.340 I don't know that he has that much leverage against the Chinese economy.
00:04:38.620 So maybe it's a bluster.
00:04:41.200 I don't know.
00:04:41.660 But I I still think the Russians are willing to negotiate.
00:04:49.320 I don't know what the impasse is.
00:04:51.160 I truly don't understand at this point.
00:04:52.640 Ann Applebaum, who's no friend of the war room, certainly no friend of of Eric Prince, the president of the United States or Steve Bannon, she had a piece in the Atlantic about a week or so ago that said even as many hits as as Putin has.
00:05:07.880 He's got an army he's put together for the summer offensive of six hundred and seventy five thousand troops.
00:05:13.920 Why would he negotiate with President Trump when isn't Odessa their target?
00:05:19.600 Isn't that the last big thing that they want before they call it a day, sir?
00:05:23.780 If they can take Odessa and that port, they have effectively really neutered the viability of Ukraine as a country, because that is the port through which all of Ukrainian grain and mineral exports has to flow.
00:05:41.320 So it's going to be a while until they get there.
00:05:45.580 I think they can.
00:05:46.200 I mean, that's a that's still a ways off militarily.
00:05:48.760 That's probably another season or two.
00:05:51.040 But but Ukraine does have a manpower problem.
00:05:53.900 And right now, really, both sides are just stuck in a war of massive attrition.
00:06:00.540 The millions and millions of landmines that have been sown make it very hard for any kind of breakthrough.
00:06:07.560 And when you add to that very smart FPV drones, drones that can adjust your artillery fire to be very accurate and including unmanned systems that can even sell more landfields or more minefields in front of any breakthrough, makes any kind of fast maneuver warfare that would lead to a decisive end exceedingly difficult.
00:06:30.620 So this is when you look at the battlefields today, it's like the Somme, you know, the horrifically costly, pointless battle during the World War One, which cost 60,000 British in a long weekend.
00:06:49.820 So it is a really pointless war.
00:06:53.120 And I really hope President Trump's leadership can bring this thing to an end.
00:06:55.800 But I think the Russians are willing to make a deal.
00:06:59.940 Do we have the clip ready?
00:07:01.720 I want to play another clip from Lindsey Graham about the war in Gaza and get your response, Eric.
00:07:08.500 Let's talk about Gaza, Senator, because this is so important.
00:07:13.080 As I just talked about with the House speaker, the world is just watching this humanitarian crisis unfold.
00:07:19.540 President Trump said he told Prime Minister Netanyahu to, quote, finish the job this week.
00:07:25.440 I know that you are in touch with President Trump.
00:07:28.160 You're in touch with Israeli officials.
00:07:30.540 What are you anticipating is going to happen next?
00:07:33.080 What does finish the job mean, Senator?
00:07:36.360 Well, I talked to Cindy McCain last night.
00:07:39.840 Here's some good news for the people in Gaza.
00:07:42.660 Humanitarian quarters are now going to be open.
00:07:45.700 Israel is going to work with the U.N., the World Food Program, to get some food into these people who need it.
00:07:50.960 But I think what the topic we're talking about today is a change in strategy.
00:07:57.060 I think President Trump has come to believe, and I've certainly come to believe, there's no way you're going to negotiate an end of this war with Hamas. 0.93
00:08:05.200 Hamas is a terrorist organization who is chartered to destroy the state of Israel.
00:08:11.240 They're religious Nazis. 0.83
00:08:12.740 They hold Israeli hostages.
00:08:14.280 I think Israel has come to conclude that they can't achieve a goal of ending the war with Hamas that would be satisfactory to the safety of Israel.
00:08:26.320 And if they're going to do in Gaza what we did in Tokyo and Berlin, take the place by force, then start over again, presenting a better future for the Palestinians,
00:08:37.560 hopefully having the Arabs take over the West Bank and Gaza. 1.00
00:08:40.220 But I think going forward, Christian, you're going to see a change in tactics, a full military effort by Israel to take Gaza down like we did in Tokyo and Berlin. 0.67
00:08:50.960 Senator, bottom line, does that mean the hostages are not going to be coming back alive if Israel were to move forward with what you're effectively saying?
00:09:01.080 I hope not.
00:09:02.180 I think there are people maybe in the Hamas organization that would accept safe passage if they released the hostages.
00:09:09.520 If I were Israel, I'd make that offer to Hamas fighters. 1.00
00:09:12.880 You can leave safely.
00:09:14.400 We want our hostages back.
00:09:15.960 But here's the problem Israel has. 0.52
00:09:17.820 They're losing soldiers four and five a week.
00:09:21.200 I hope and pray the hostages will come back.
00:09:24.200 Hamas could end this tomorrow by laying down their weapons and releasing the hostages.
00:09:28.340 There is no future for the Palestinian people as long as Hamas is around. 1.00
00:09:32.800 So all I can say is that you're going to see, I think, in the next days and weeks, a military effort to destroy Hamas akin to what we did in Tokyo and Berlin to destroy the Nazis and the Japanese. 0.91
00:09:47.260 So, Eric Prince, wow, you've been involved in discussions and things around there since the very beginning of this war.
00:09:58.620 When Lindsey Graham says, you talked about the first day of the Somme where the British Army, I think, lost 70,000 men.
00:10:05.420 Lindsey Graham is equating the final stroke by the IDF and Netanyahu against the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas as being equivalent.
00:10:15.740 You've got to do Tokyo and Berlin.
00:10:18.040 Memory serves me correctly.
00:10:19.520 We firebomb Tokyo.
00:10:22.220 Quite frankly, I think the net effect was worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 0.74
00:10:26.780 In Berlin, we bombed back into the Stone Age. 0.96
00:10:30.000 Gaza looks pretty bad.
00:10:31.800 What is he talking about?
00:10:32.980 How could it get any more horrific in Gaza with just the military conflict, sir?
00:10:39.200 They've already flattened all of Gaza. 0.97
00:10:42.260 It's completely uninhabitable.
00:10:44.660 I don't know why they've allowed themselves to be held hostage by having hostages.
00:10:50.820 If you have that much of a mismatch militarily between what the IDF can feel versus what Hamas can, it's taken way, way, way too long.
00:11:02.580 It's extremely frustrating for me to see this because I gave them the option early on, like three weeks after the October 7, before the ground offensive even started.
00:11:15.720 I brought them a fully funded drilling and flooding program to flood all the tunnels and take that away as a way for Hamas to keep hiding. 0.91
00:11:25.520 And they didn't do it.
00:11:26.740 And so Hamas is a death cult.
00:11:30.040 They are completely bad, no question.
00:11:33.100 And they need to die.
00:11:34.040 But there's a huge part of the Israeli population that wants to extinct Gaza as well.
00:11:40.300 And so the real losers in this are the normal people in Gaza that are just trying to live and survive and feed their families.
00:11:50.300 And I'm really disgusted at this point with how long this has gone on, that even the only church, the only Catholic church in Gaza, some tank takes a pot shot at it at the steeple.
00:12:07.520 Now, Steve, sorry, a Makaba tank has a 120-millimeter smoothbore cannon that is going about more than 5,000 feet per second.
00:12:18.740 That is a very, very flat shooting round.
00:12:21.400 And it was an elevated shot which hit the steeple.
00:12:24.420 I think somebody was taking a pot shot at the Christian cross on that steeple.
00:12:29.460 And it killed three Christians in that church and the thought of it enough. 1.00
00:12:36.420 And you know what?
00:12:37.260 The U.S. should not pay for any more of this at all.
00:12:41.860 The time of subsidizing the IDF as an American taxpayer must end.
00:12:46.900 Enough of it.
00:12:47.540 It is not our problem.
00:12:50.220 So you have Lindsey Graham and the Tom Cottons of the world that are cheering on.
00:12:57.020 And like you said, you've had two years.
00:12:58.640 We said at the beginning, if you've got to go through hell, go through as quickly as possible for a whole host of reasons.
00:13:03.940 We're now deep into the second year of this.
00:13:06.380 We're getting up to the second year of this.
00:13:08.260 But you have Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and others on Capitol Hill saying, oh, if you want to take a Berlin and Tokyo strategy in World War II, have at it.
00:13:16.540 I mean, how do you put constraints on that?
00:13:18.580 That's coming from the American side, sir.
00:13:22.160 That's coming from a couple of senators.
00:13:23.760 Again, this is not something we have to pay for.
00:13:30.060 Look, the goodwill that Israeli society has built up with a lot of the tech they've developed in agriculture and water and safe cities and all the rest has largely been shredded because of this endless war that has dragged on.
00:13:47.280 And I am starting to wonder how were they how was all that intelligence apparatus so blind to that level of buildup that they allowed October 7 to happen and were caught so unawares, especially, especially on an anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, where they were also caught unawares in 73.
00:14:10.300 Eric, you put a plan together in May, I think, of 2017 to basically presented to President Trump.
00:14:21.520 He read he read that your piece in The Wall Street Journal.
00:14:23.780 He saw you on Fox explaining for a couple of days.
00:14:26.020 He loved your idea about how to make sense on a rapid but smart kind of downsizing and ultimate withdrawal from Afghanistan that the deep state, basically the Pentagon of the deep state, did not allow us to effectuate.
00:14:42.020 And you saw what happened with Biden years and years later.
00:14:45.000 What would be your advice to President Trump today if you were in the Oval with him about avoiding getting into kinetic conflict in Ukraine and in Gaza right now, sir?
00:15:00.440 Not a place that U.S. forces should be engaged on the ground or, for that matter, in Yemen as well with the Battle of Mandaab.
00:15:09.840 It is once the U.S. gets involved, the momentum of incrementalism is very, very difficult to stop.
00:15:18.480 And it takes a severe jolt to the system to interrupt that kind of momentum.
00:15:27.280 And we've already spent billions and billions and billions of dollars in Yemen.
00:15:33.040 Fails.
00:15:34.080 We have spent tens, hundreds of billions of dollars supporting Ukraine.
00:15:38.960 Fail.
00:15:39.840 What the IDF has done to Gaza is terrible.
00:15:45.400 I understand they're trying to get their hostages back.
00:15:48.360 But they have killed thousands and thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians.
00:15:56.180 And they have created multiple generations of more people that viscerally hate them and cannot wait to be a suicide bomber.
00:16:04.780 That is militarily a fail overall.
00:16:07.920 Eric, I know you've got a podcast now.
00:16:12.700 Where do people go to get your content, sir?
00:16:14.320 Well, I'm on X at Real Eric D. Prince.
00:16:20.080 And my podcast is called Off-Leash with Eric Prince.
00:16:24.860 Although I've been deficient of late in putting up any new episodes because I'm busy with some interesting work overseas.
00:16:35.220 When Eric Prince says, interesting work.
00:16:38.440 Eric, thank you so much.
00:16:41.900 Honored to have you on here.
00:16:43.280 Great thinking, great analysis, and great advice.
00:16:46.660 Thank you, brother.
00:16:47.920 Keep up the great work, Steve.
00:16:48.860 Thank you, sir.
00:16:50.640 Interesting work coming from Eric Prince.
00:16:55.640 Wow.
00:16:56.280 Don't know where that's going to lead, but I'm sure somewhere.
00:16:58.220 I want to cut that for Eric Prince to say that, but he knows the IDF guys well.
00:17:04.580 He knows, obviously, the Israelis very well.
00:17:07.040 He did come up with a plan in the first days of this horrible situation about flooding the tunnels and doing other things like that to try to make some, to get up the curve quicker that were not taken.
00:17:19.700 His plan for Afghanistan was still the best plan, and, of course, the deep state and the Pentagon fought it tooth and nail.
00:17:26.560 Why?
00:17:27.760 They hadn't come up with the Ukraine war.
00:17:29.280 You've got to have something.
00:17:30.160 You've got to have a forever war going somewhere to pay the bills or to justify the bills of getting paid.
00:17:36.300 John Lee's going to join in a second, but I want to play this.
00:17:38.500 There's a horrific situation in Cincinnati at this jazz festival.
00:17:43.140 Last night, I think it's been renamed the music festival.
00:17:45.300 The chief of police, and she's a beauty, a piece of work, just had a press conference.
00:17:51.220 I want to play this in its entirety.
00:17:52.900 It's about five or six minutes, but I want to see what the good folks in Cincinnati got defending them.
00:17:58.680 Let's go ahead and play it.
00:17:59.720 Thanks for coming out, folks.
00:18:01.320 I want to take a minute to give you guys an overview of the incident from the weekend.
00:18:06.480 First of all, I think it's very important that everybody understands we had well over 150,000 people in the downtown area this weekend.
00:18:23.780 We had a major big three basketball tournament at the arena.
00:18:28.820 We had a Reds game with large crowds, and we had the Cincinnati Music Festival.
00:18:35.020 Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful events for this city and all the people who attended it.
00:18:42.700 Unfortunately, we had one incident, one incident late Friday night into Saturday morning that is getting all the attention and undoing the good stuff that happened this weekend.
00:18:57.000 That's the incident that you're well aware of that occurred at 4th and Elm.
00:19:01.200 I, like many, woke up Saturday morning to the video.
00:19:11.080 The incident occurred.
00:19:13.960 We got our first call at 3.06 a.m.
00:19:19.260 First officers were on the scene at 3.12 a.m.
00:19:23.780 Based on the body cam footage that I've watched, that response time is completely acceptable because the downtown area still had traffic congestion from all of the events.
00:19:39.620 Upon arrival, the fight was over with.
00:19:47.800 The fight was over with when the officers arrived.
00:19:52.420 And the majority of the participants were gone.
00:19:57.340 The officers did exactly what they are trained to do.
00:20:00.780 They gathered information from the victims that were still at the scene to complete an offense report.
00:20:13.060 I will tell you, at this time, we have victims and suspects identified,
00:20:22.840 and we have charged five people in this offense.
00:20:29.340 I'm not going to release that information to you.
00:20:32.440 I will say, if individuals were down there and participated in this event,
00:20:37.980 it would be in their best interest to come turn themselves in at one of our police districts.
00:20:44.320 We have five we have charged and anticipate more.
00:20:48.640 Let me be clear.
00:20:53.940 Anyone, anyone who put their hands on another individual during this incident in an attempt to cause harm will face consequences.
00:21:09.420 I don't care which side of the incident or the fight they were on.
00:21:14.120 If they place their hands on somebody in an attempt to cause harm, that is unacceptable.
00:21:22.680 This is still an open investigation, and all potential charges are being investigated for everyone involved.
00:21:32.240 All investigative tools and techniques are on the table, including were some of these individuals over-served at some local establishments.
00:21:49.020 It is clear to us that alcohol played a part, a significant part, in this incident.
00:21:55.320 I want to thank every citizen who has come forward and provided us with information.
00:22:05.160 Some of those tips have led to the charges being signed.
00:22:09.500 However, for us to have 100 or so people down there involved in and or watching this event, recording with their cell phones,
00:22:25.960 and for us to get only one phone call of this incident is unacceptable in this city.
00:22:34.000 One person did the right thing.
00:22:41.560 Somehow I don't get a bit just it's maybe me.
00:22:46.480 I just don't feel a high level of confidence.
00:22:48.920 That's the police chief right there.
00:22:52.520 The reason I want to play it, that is the epitome of the besides that, Mrs. Lincoln, how is the play?
00:22:57.020 Oh, we had, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, but you had this incident, and that happened on, what is it, Friday night, Saturday morning.
00:23:06.300 Here we are Monday afternoon and still not sorted out.
00:23:10.200 No, ma'am, that's just not what citizens of Cincinnati expect or anticipate.
00:23:16.720 Really a total and complete debacle there.
00:23:19.940 Let me bring in more of that tomorrow, I'm sure.
00:23:22.540 Let me bring in John Leak.
00:23:25.180 He and Dr. McCullough have just written an amazing new book, Vaccines.
00:23:28.920 And the title's provocative.
00:23:31.260 What is your—it's Vaccines.
00:23:33.120 What's the subtitle that you've used, John Leak?
00:23:37.140 Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
00:23:40.400 And you'll see, Steve, I believe you're an observant Roman Catholic.
00:23:44.700 You'll see that 20-euro silver coin that was issued by the Vatican in 2022 commemorating the COVID-19 messenger mRNA vaccine.
00:23:58.620 We go into—
00:24:00.560 Not the church's—not the church's finest moments.
00:24:03.900 Now you know we're kind of a rebel group in there.
00:24:07.580 You're right.
00:24:08.560 Your head's blown up when you see something like that, correct?
00:24:11.180 Well, I mean, what we've discovered going back to this smallpox outbreak in Boston, Massachusetts in 1721, that's really the beginning of our story.
00:24:24.660 Cotton Mather, a fellow Harvard man, I believe he's still the youngest Harvard graduate in history, graduated from Harvard at the age of 11, was a real prodigy.
00:24:36.740 He was a consulting scholar for the Salem witch trials.
00:24:43.060 Cotton Mather was a very fascinating man, and he happens to be the first great advocate of smallpox inoculation.
00:24:52.520 And so we start with Cotton Mather, and what we see going from Cotton Mather in 1721 all the way to the COVID-19 mass vaccination in 2021.
00:25:04.980 So it's 300-year history, is that the vaccine enterprise is really more of a religious enterprise than a scientific enterprise.
00:25:15.580 That's put it in the mouth. 1.00
00:25:17.820 Leek, John, hang on for a second.
00:25:19.560 You've already got me rolling here with Cotton Mather, 11-year-old grad of Harvard, and the consulting theologian for the Salem witch trials.
00:25:30.440 John Leek is with us.
00:25:31.580 The book is provocative.
00:25:33.060 Even the title is provocative.
00:25:35.780 Vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality.
00:25:40.160 As only Dr. McCullough and John Leek can give it to you from Skyhorse Press.
00:25:45.760 John's going to be on the other side.
00:25:47.640 As Bobby Kennedy and the crew over at HHS now start to rev up this whole platinum science and really get down to the bottom of the situation with these vaccines.
00:25:59.780 I want to thank Birch Gold.
00:26:01.860 Boy, what a great show.
00:26:03.780 The second hour, Eric Prince.
00:26:06.720 We visit, put our toe into the water in Cincinnati.
00:26:09.120 Very, very disturbing what happened there and really disturbing response by the police.
00:26:16.040 And I think you can see why.
00:26:17.800 That's DEI.
00:26:18.840 That's a poster for DEI right there.
00:26:21.560 I'm not feeling great seeing who your chief of police is.
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00:26:58.360 Short commercial break.
00:26:59.780 Vaccines on the other side.
00:27:03.700 This July, there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro.
00:27:08.560 The block of emerging superpowers, including China, Russia, India, and Persia,
00:27:14.200 are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency.
00:27:19.660 They're calling this the Rio Reset.
00:27:22.120 As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for U.S. dollars will decrease, 0.57
00:27:27.160 bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings.
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00:31:33.700 So the title, was it Peter, who's the guy at Baylor, Hostess, Dr. Hostess, the vaccine expert from Baylor?
00:31:42.180 Yeah, Dr. Peter Hostess.
00:31:44.420 He's going to be in the fetal position just on the title.
00:31:47.100 You and McCulloch are bullies and picking on him.
00:31:49.600 Just the title of the book.
00:31:50.640 Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
00:31:57.180 What do you mean by even the title of the book, sir?
00:32:01.440 Well, there's this enduring mythology that vaccines have been the main drivers of reducing infectious disease mortality.
00:32:15.920 And it's just not true.
00:32:17.620 All you have to do is look at published U.S. vital statistics.
00:32:22.740 And you see that years before the modern vaccine era began with the diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis vaccine,
00:32:32.600 which was recommended for everyone, all children, to receive in 1948,
00:32:39.440 years prior to the introduction of mass vaccination,
00:32:43.560 all of the infectious diseases, with the exception of polio,
00:32:49.340 the mortality had already plummeted by well more than 90%.
00:32:55.020 The primary drivers of reducing infectious disease mortality was sanitation,
00:33:03.080 improved nutrition, housing, just elevated standards of living across the board,
00:33:09.880 food hygiene and safety, pasteurization of milk.
00:33:14.300 So by the time we get to the era of modern vaccination,
00:33:19.460 we've already seen a dramatic reduction of infectious disease mortality.
00:33:25.160 But there's this enduring myth that this reduction of mortality is attributable to vaccines.
00:33:33.460 And the published statistical data shows that this just isn't true.
00:33:39.520 The other thing that we explore in the book is, for good reason,
00:33:45.060 and I think to give, for example, Cotton Mather his due,
00:33:50.420 he had children and his wife died of a virulent measles outbreak in Boston in 1713.
00:33:57.720 So, I mean, the man experienced the pain of loss from infectious diseases.
00:34:03.140 And what we show is, in a very poignant way,
00:34:06.420 it's understandable why mankind fell in love with this idea of inoculation.
00:34:13.680 And then later in the 18th century, the end of the 18th century, rather,
00:34:18.760 with vaccination with Edward Jenner in Gloucestershire, England,
00:34:22.780 it's a very charming idea, a weak form of infectious disease matter
00:34:29.880 protecting against severe disease and death.
00:34:35.180 So we don't dismiss the whole concept of vaccination.
00:34:40.280 We think that some vaccines have shown to have utility.
00:34:44.460 What we want to do is just bring vaccines back into the arena 1.00
00:34:49.820 of critical evaluation and discussion.
00:34:53.520 Because for the longest time, you can't even question their safety and efficacy,
00:35:00.400 or you will be treated as something akin to a heretic.
00:35:04.680 So we want to get out of branding people like Robert Kennedy heretics
00:35:11.880 or something akin to a heretic and excommunicating them.
00:35:16.220 And we want to invite and welcome critical questioning and evaluation.
00:35:22.020 That's really the objective of our book.
00:35:26.320 What is, if someone, we want people to get this book.
00:35:29.660 It's a great handbook and it gets you up to speed on all of it.
00:35:33.040 What do you believe the reader will take away,
00:35:35.920 the lay reader that's coming this to the first time
00:35:38.380 and maybe, you know, was involved or paid attention
00:35:41.660 when we've shifted to war and pandemic
00:35:44.180 and we would have people on here multiple times a day to go through this.
00:35:47.040 What would the general reader take away from your book?
00:35:50.580 The general reader will be surprised by the amount of fraud and chicanery 1.00
00:35:55.440 that we document throughout the entire vaccine enterprise.
00:36:00.180 Strangely enough, in spite of medical science undeniably improving
00:36:08.380 during the late 20th and early 20th century,
00:36:12.460 we were surprised to discover that the most crass fraud and chicanery 1.00
00:36:18.480 was actually perpetrated with the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine.
00:36:25.180 It doesn't work.
00:36:27.080 It's not safe.
00:36:28.200 It's not effective.
00:36:29.120 It doesn't prevent transmission.
00:36:31.720 One of the most astonishing documents that we present in the book
00:36:36.240 was a 2022 paper by none other than Anthony Fauci himself,
00:36:42.340 in which he and his colleagues, two of them at the NIH,
00:36:47.100 they plainly state that a blood antibody-inducing shot in the arm,
00:36:54.340 in the deltoid muscle, inducing the creation of blood antibodies.
00:37:00.220 That kind of vaccine is not effective against influenza and coronaviruses,
00:37:07.020 which rapidly replicate in the nose so that you have replication and transmission
00:37:14.740 in the nose before blood antibodies can be brought to bear on it.
00:37:20.040 So Fauci himself, now mind you, the press doesn't publicize Fauci's 2022 paper we presented in the book.
00:37:29.640 But there is an understanding that the COVID-19 vaccine was never going to prevent infection and transmission,
00:37:39.160 and yet it was mandated.
00:37:42.980 So the whole thing is provocative as this will sound.
00:37:48.200 It's a patent absurdity.
00:37:50.480 The entire COVID-19 vaccine program is a fraud.
00:37:56.420 So we were rather astonished to discover that.
00:38:01.240 But the evidence which we present, and we cite all of the papers,
00:38:06.300 as you know, Dr. Peter McCullough's Walking Medical Encyclopedia,
00:38:10.300 it's all cited.
00:38:13.020 It's all there.
00:38:14.340 I think the reader will be astonished by what we present.
00:38:18.520 Okay, this is why I want people to read the book,
00:38:20.640 because there's two things going forward.
00:38:21.940 There's Bobby Kennedy's, we're going to get to platinum-level science,
00:38:26.640 and we're going to treat this all fair,
00:38:28.140 but this whole thing with autism and how it started in the 72 vaccines kids got to have,
00:38:33.060 we're going to have dispassionate platinum-level science
00:38:38.460 to understand where we are with this and how we go forward.
00:38:41.920 The other part of the book, the other part of this,
00:38:44.000 is to hold people accountable and responsible for the fiasco during the pandemic.
00:38:49.460 And at least in reading your book as a layman,
00:38:54.060 how can anybody possibly ever again look at the public health service
00:38:58.340 or the public health, because they were 1 million percent on this.
00:39:03.160 I mean, this is why people were kicked out of the military.
00:39:05.680 This is why so many people couldn't get on airplanes.
00:39:08.380 I mean, everybody associated with the war room and our production team
00:39:11.700 were adamantly, and many of the people we're close to,
00:39:14.940 and family members are, you know, purebloods, no vaccine at all.
00:39:18.760 But during the time, that was a very dangerous way to live one's life.
00:39:23.540 So how can you read your book and not come away with the fact that,
00:39:26.440 thank God, Bobby Kennedy's here to do platinum-level science,
00:39:29.540 but you've got to hold responsible, particularly the entire public health system,
00:39:37.140 the entire kind of medical profession, all of biopharmaceutical,
00:39:41.600 and the mainstream media from the New York Times to MSNBC is in on the fix, sir.
00:39:47.000 Well, I think what the reader will see is that the great forbidden fruit in this story
00:39:55.820 was granting the vaccine manufacturers blanket liability protection
00:40:01.540 with the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.
00:40:06.600 The vaccine manufacturers went to Congress,
00:40:09.600 and they said, look, we can't make these 100% safe.
00:40:14.700 There's going to be a certain percentage of children
00:40:17.780 that have strong reactions to these vaccines and suffer injury and death.
00:40:24.320 The pharmaceutical companies or the vaccine manufacturers argued
00:40:28.840 that the number of children harmed by the vaccines
00:40:32.980 would be greatly exceeded by the number of children
00:40:37.120 who would suffer severe illness and death if they weren't vaccinated.
00:40:41.800 So as a result of this argument, which we show in our book,
00:40:47.120 there are many reasons to doubt this.
00:40:49.360 It's an argument from expediency.
00:40:52.320 But this was the argument that was made,
00:40:56.180 and in response, Congress granted not only the existing vaccines on the schedule,
00:41:03.020 blanket liability protection,
00:41:05.360 but also any vaccine that henceforth was added to the schedule.
00:41:11.420 So we believe that this was sort of the forbidden,
00:41:16.320 this was the original sin.
00:41:17.960 And since the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed in 1986,
00:41:27.640 you've had this enormous, surprise, surprise,
00:41:31.320 proliferation of shots that have been put on the schedule.
00:41:35.900 And that timeline of an increasing number of shots,
00:41:40.700 many of which are multivalent,
00:41:42.640 there's multiple disease agents either attenuated or inactivated
00:41:51.020 that are included in each of these shots.
00:41:53.500 With the proliferation of shots,
00:41:55.920 on that same timeline,
00:41:58.240 you see a dramatic increase of autism.
00:42:01.900 And the CDC doesn't even try to deny that autism has,
00:42:09.200 we have seen a dramatic spike.
00:42:11.240 And the prevalence and incidence.
00:42:14.660 But the irony, which is almost laughable,
00:42:19.620 is, well, we don't know what causes autism.
00:42:25.400 We really don't know.
00:42:27.720 We just know for sure that it's not caused by vaccines.
00:42:32.620 So, I mean, on the face of it, this is fallacious.
00:42:37.340 So when Bobby Kennedy comes along and he says,
00:42:39.900 well, now, wait a minute.
00:42:40.780 I mean, the timeline is clear.
00:42:44.200 Can't we at least just take a look at this?
00:42:48.360 What we saw prior to him,
00:42:50.840 by some kind of miracle, becoming HHS secretary,
00:42:54.400 was excommunicate Bobby Kennedy.
00:42:57.200 So it is a rather remarkable turn of events
00:43:01.260 that he's now HHS secretary.
00:43:03.300 And he claims that he's going to press forward with this mission.
00:43:08.480 We are very anxious to see the result of it.
00:43:12.620 So one of the reasons he is is this audience had President Trump's back
00:43:18.060 and from the beginning and particularly when they stole the 2020 election.
00:43:21.500 And also this audience went fixed bayonets on the confirmation process of Pete Hegseth
00:43:27.580 and Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard and others.
00:43:30.900 What do you anticipate with the publication of this book and the information in it
00:43:35.580 and what Bobby has said about we've got to get the platinum level of science?
00:43:41.060 Walk people through two things.
00:43:42.740 Bobby Kennedy going forward.
00:43:44.060 What do you anticipate to see?
00:43:45.860 And also, how does one begin to hold Fauci in the rest?
00:43:49.800 And remember, I'm a guy that said from the beginning that Fauci is a criminal.
00:43:55.200 How do you hold those guys accountable?
00:43:58.520 Well, I think that we've already established that Fauci was instrumental.
00:44:05.600 His NIAID was instrumental in funding and endorsing this gain-of-function research
00:44:13.140 that was being performed with U.S. biotechnology.
00:44:16.520 That's Ralph Barrick's, his biotechnology that he developed at the University of North Carolina,
00:44:24.300 Chapel Hill, Peter Daszak at EcoHealth Alliance.
00:44:28.600 These guys were working closely with Xing Ji Li at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:44:34.200 And we show again, I think the reader will be astonished.
00:44:37.680 There's nothing in this story that isn't plainly documented.
00:44:42.560 They published it in their papers, their grant proposals.
00:44:45.560 It's all there.
00:44:47.960 Fauci endorsed and approved of their research.
00:44:53.140 So there's no question that Fauci lied before Congress when he told Rand Paul,
00:45:02.540 Senator Paul, that there was no gain-of-function being performed.
00:45:06.880 It's in Ralph Barrick's own papers that he was doing gain-of-function.
00:45:12.280 So there's no question that Fauci lied to Congress.
00:45:17.020 One could start with that.
00:45:19.780 But Trump himself, the president himself, has stated in his White House website,
00:45:27.400 communiques, about the origin of COVID-19,
00:45:31.700 that this was, in fact, something that came out of the Wuhan lab with American biotechnology.
00:45:38.160 So once the reader sees the evidence of this, which we present, the next question is going
00:45:45.720 to be, well, how are we to evaluate Fauci's endorsement of the COVID-19 vaccine,
00:45:53.620 which was developed by the same players?
00:45:57.060 I don't see how anyone can read our book, read the evidence that we present, and not walk away
00:46:05.460 with the conclusion that Fauci should be prosecuted for, at the very minimum, lying to Congress,
00:46:14.920 for perjuring himself before Congress, at the very minimum.
00:46:18.520 There are other possible avenues of prosecuting Fauci that I think are evident from reading
00:46:26.660 the book as well.
00:46:28.880 So what would those be?
00:46:30.580 You're the co-author of the book.
00:46:32.500 What would be perjury, you know, lying in front of Congress is one thing.
00:46:36.820 Are there deeper sins that you think are prosecutable?
00:46:41.160 Well, Fauci, by his own assertion in his 2022 paper, states that this kind of vaccine technology
00:46:56.100 of inducing blood antibodies to the spike protein of this coronavirus, he acknowledges that this
00:47:05.340 isn't an effective technology for controlling coronaviruses or influenza viruses.
00:47:14.020 So if he's acknowledging that in his own paper, why is he endorsing the mass vaccination of the
00:47:26.900 American public with this product, this emergency authorized use product?
00:47:32.600 And completely censoring or advocating the censorship of anyone who even questions it.
00:47:42.860 So lawyers will have to parse out what exactly this means from a criminal liability standpoint.
00:47:51.140 But, I mean, at the very minimum, I would say that this is strong elements of fraud,
00:47:57.620 of lying about the product, of concealing the safety problems, of overstating the efficacy,
00:48:06.700 which it seems to me all amounts to fraud in a rather grand way.
00:48:16.000 We want everybody possible to read this book, particularly those that have maybe lost contact
00:48:21.180 with some of the basics here since the pandemic passed and there's been other fights we've had.
00:48:26.440 What's, we got about a minute, what is the best, give your best pitch of why someone should get this book
00:48:32.700 and read it today?
00:48:35.820 I think any American with an open mind and an open heart who reads this book,
00:48:41.380 it's a critical history and evaluation of the entire vaccine enterprise going back
00:48:47.160 to the smallpox outbreak of Boston in 1721, will be absolutely astonished by the entire story from start to finish.
00:48:58.340 Peter, Dr. Peter McCullough and I have been talking about this and researching it for the last five years.
00:49:04.600 And everything from Edward Jenner's first smallpox vaccine to Louis Pasteur's fraudulent misrepresentations
00:49:15.480 about his anthrax animal vaccine to his chicken cholera vaccine.
00:49:21.240 We document, and it's not controversial, it's just not very well known,
00:49:26.900 that Louis Pasteur committed multiple acts of fraud.
00:49:30.960 We see this fraud and chicanery running through the entire story. 1.00
00:49:36.220 And I think when the American people read our book, if they do so, they check all of the citations.
00:49:42.800 They can go and look at the sources.
00:49:44.560 It's all there.
00:49:45.500 I think they're going to demand that we start talking in a serious scientific way about the vaccine enterprise
00:49:55.760 and support Bobby Kennedy 100% in the mission that he has set forth to achieve.
00:50:05.760 Brother Leek, fantastic.
00:50:08.380 Absolutely great.
00:50:09.440 I know everybody's going to want to get this book.
00:50:11.160 Where do people go to get your writings, social media, and where do they go get the books, sir?
00:50:17.120 Dr. McCullough and I have a newsletter called The Focal Points, thefocalpoints.com.
00:50:24.180 Dr. Peter McCullough and John Leek.
00:50:27.480 Dr. Peter McCullough, you can find him on X.
00:50:30.680 He has a million followers.
00:50:32.840 And find the book on Amazon.
00:50:36.700 Hats off to Jeff Bezos, who's still allowing this kind of book to be told.
00:50:42.360 John Leek, thank you very much.
00:50:46.460 Amazing.
00:50:47.840 I want everybody to get this.
00:50:49.580 Let's get back up to speed.
00:50:50.820 Bobby Kennedy's the tip of the spear in taking on, what do you call it, the vaccine enterprise.
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