Bannon's War Room - October 02, 2025


WarRoom Battleground EP 862： Terror Attacks In London Continue; Pope Leo Blesses ICE

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Ben Harnwell, Peter McElvenna and Steve Kamb join host Stephen Kamb to discuss the latest attack on a synagogue in Manchester, England, a car ramming and stabbing attack that has left at least 2 dead, and 2 more suspects in custody.

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00:00:00.360 erupting outside of a synagogue in northern England.
00:00:03.340 Police say at least two people were killed in a car ramming and stabbing attack in Manchester.
00:00:08.360 An authority shot a third person believed to be the suspect.
00:00:11.540 NBC's Matt Bodner is in London now with more.
00:00:14.000 Matt, what's the latest?
00:00:15.780 On a good morning, Manchester police have confirmed that the attacker has died from shots fired by the police
00:00:21.440 when they responded to this attack earlier this morning.
00:00:24.260 We don't know too much more about the attacker at this time,
00:00:27.140 but Manchester police have actually just now started a press conference where we're learning a bit more about it.
00:00:32.600 They're saying that they have two additional people in custody without giving much more detail yet.
00:00:37.920 But going back to the attack, video posted to social media, also verified by NBC News,
00:00:43.300 showed police backing away from the suspect's body and then cautioning people to move away.
00:00:49.120 An officer in that video can be heard saying, quote, he has a bomb.
00:00:52.860 Manchester police have not confirmed that there was an explosive device,
00:00:56.120 but bomb disposal teams were on site working with, quote, suspicious items.
00:01:00.480 So we're still waiting for more details about today's attack,
00:01:02.920 but it did begin this morning with a car being driven into the public.
00:01:10.140 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:15.120 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:20.220 Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:24.540 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:26.600 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:28.040 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:01:30.660 It's going to happen.
00:01:31.940 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:01:35.340 MAGA media.
00:01:36.660 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:42.100 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:45.240 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:52.300 War Room.
00:01:53.060 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:01:55.140 Bannon.
00:02:01.840 Thursday, 2 October, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
00:02:05.300 Thanks for sticking around for the late afternoon, early evening edition of the War Room.
00:02:10.560 I've got my colleague, Ben Harnwell from Rome, and we've also got Peter McElvenna.
00:02:16.100 I want to go, Peter, we stream you a couple times a week on your show, Hearts of Oak.
00:02:27.120 And I've made this, and it's been a big deal, I guess, in the British media, that I believe our mother country, the United Kingdom, is rapidly spinning to a civil war.
00:02:37.940 And that the political apparatus right now cannot stop it.
00:02:44.180 It's incapable of stopping it.
00:02:46.260 And I keep saying the only person that could is possibly Nigel, who, and Nigel has never been as hardcore about immigration, although he's made it as we have in the war room, we have in the Trump movement in the United States.
00:02:58.000 But even Nigel is coming our way, because now Nigel, for the first time, is talking about mass deportations.
00:03:04.200 Talk to me about mantras, this is just the latest example, but you've sent me a series of stories.
00:03:09.500 I mean, folks, this thing, and the pushback of the English and British working class to me is just amazing.
00:03:17.780 I get the St. George's flags, the flag of England, the Union Jack.
00:03:22.740 You had the Tommy Robinson demonstration in the streets with two or three million people.
00:03:26.540 So they ain't going down without a fight.
00:03:28.700 They're not going to go down without a fight.
00:03:30.120 And I think you can do this the easy way through politics and policy, which we always advocate for.
00:03:37.080 But I'm telling you, the English working class is not going to just turn over their country and let a bunch of feckless, spineless politicians in a corrupt media sell their country out, sir.
00:03:53.420 I don't know what I can add to that, Steve.
00:03:56.060 I agree 100 percent.
00:03:57.120 And we're in a weird situation in the UK, I see Ben smirking, but we're in a weird situation in the UK in that we are four years out from a general election.
00:04:07.840 We are stuck with a hard left government, socialist government in Keir Storm or two-tier Keir.
00:04:14.460 And we have a conservative government that aren't applying any pressure at all.
00:04:19.080 And Kemi Bednock has been an utter disaster in terms of providing conservative pressure to a socialist government.
00:04:27.840 Then on the other side, you've got Nigel Farage applying huge pressure with Reform UK with six members of parliament out of 650.
00:04:38.460 And the conservatives have got 100 and whatever they've got.
00:04:41.860 Who knows? But it's Nigel Farage applying the pressure and he has really hit his stride.
00:04:49.360 And I've got many issues with Nigel in terms of engaging on the Islamisation of the UK, Islamic immigration. 1.00
00:04:58.660 But he's hit his stride in terms of immigration and he is taking it to the Labour Party.
00:05:05.480 And this week we've had the Labour Party conference and he is hitting the ball.
00:05:11.140 He is pushing the government to readdress their understanding of mass illegal immigration and the impact it has on the UK.
00:05:20.180 Without Nigel, we would not be having this conversation.
00:05:23.380 We have a government that is doing horrendously in the polls and Nigel is fitting into that in providing the commentary for the public.
00:05:34.660 And Steve, it's crazy.
00:05:35.980 If we had an election today in the UK, if we had an election today, Nigel Farage with Reform UK would go from six MPs to 315, I think.
00:05:47.440 Just six or eight seats short of a majority.
00:05:50.640 He has done a phenomenal job on engaging with the public.
00:05:55.360 He did it with Brexit, with the Brexit vote.
00:05:58.520 He has done it at the moment with British politics in terms of a parliamentary system.
00:06:05.360 And although he only has six MPs, he is hitting the ball so high in relation to the Conservative Party that are just part of the Uni Party.
00:06:14.340 So you've got that.
00:06:15.260 And then, of course, today you have, as you mentioned, that horrendous attack on a synagogue up in the northwest of England, up in Manchester.
00:06:25.960 A big synagogue, five, seven hundred person synagogue.
00:06:29.600 It was full at the time.
00:06:31.160 And you had an attacker that ran the synagogue and then went out seemingly with an explosive vest, wanting to blow up that synagogue.
00:06:39.460 The police came within seven minutes.
00:06:42.400 I've never known the police to come in such a quick time, but they did their job.
00:06:47.200 Fair dues to them.
00:06:48.580 They responded and took out the attacker, shot him.
00:06:52.460 He's been shot dead.
00:06:54.460 I understand the rabbi of the synagogue had locked the doors to make sure they were protected.
00:07:01.000 And on the day of Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar, given to us in Leviticus, in Deuteronomy, where you actually go to God in repentance of your sins.
00:07:19.840 It is a biblical festival.
00:07:22.500 And therefore, as a Christian, I look back and respect that huge honour to the Jewish community.
00:07:30.980 And in the Jewish community, we have, what, 300,000 Jews in the UK.
00:07:37.280 We have 10 to 15 times that in terms of the Islamic community.
00:07:41.680 And we have seen the Jewish community pushed out of many traditional areas, especially in North London.
00:07:47.280 They used to be traditionally Jewish and now become Islamic.
00:07:50.700 And we are told maybe 20 minutes ago that the peace knows.
00:07:56.420 I gave this speech at the National Conservative Convention.
00:08:01.540 I said, hey, ripping on Bibi. 1.00
00:08:03.700 I said, the problem, the central problem to Israel and the Jewish people ain't coming from Tehran. 0.87
00:08:10.160 OK?
00:08:10.960 It's coming from Sadiq Khan, what they've done to London.
00:08:13.880 And New York City is going to go that way.
00:08:15.220 Now, people say, well, the Iran's funding it.
00:08:17.920 Yes, partly.
00:08:19.160 But it's bigger than that.
00:08:20.740 And I'm telling you, New York City is going to be just like London.
00:08:24.040 I know you've got to bounce.
00:08:25.200 I want to go through two things.
00:08:26.360 Number one, can you even have the conversation?
00:08:29.760 What is it about these speech laws?
00:08:31.300 Every day I'm picking up, because I get feeds from England, I'm seeing people arrested, people with doors kicked out.
00:08:37.820 Can you even have this conversation, a war room heated conversation in the United Kingdom right now?
00:08:46.280 Are the speech laws so draconian that they're trying to suppress even the ability to deal with this Islamization and neo-Marxist crisis in British society? 0.99
00:08:57.220 Well, maybe I'm fully Steve, because I love war room.
00:09:01.780 I love being with you.
00:09:03.020 And I'm happy to talk to the U.S. audience about what we face in the U.K.
00:09:07.080 And you're right.
00:09:07.700 What we have in London is an example of what you could have in New York.
00:09:14.160 And I plead with the American audience, I plead with the American voters to recognize that and make a stand in New York, to make sure New York does not come London a stand.
00:09:27.000 That's what I plead.
00:09:28.480 But also on the second part, we have a huge, huge attack on our free speech.
00:09:33.980 We don't have a First and Second Amendment.
00:09:36.140 We are here by the grace of God, not by our Constitution.
00:09:41.560 We don't have any rights and we have 30 people a day being arrested.
00:09:46.680 That was, I think, the New York Times posted that back in August.
00:09:50.380 It seems to be correct.
00:09:52.400 We have people thrown in jail for hate crimes online, for posting a post online.
00:09:59.860 They're put in jail within hours.
00:10:02.280 And yet we have mass rapists going around the U.K. that supposedly, 10 years later, the British government get into gear and engage in that.
00:10:13.120 So we have online posts being much more hateful, much more concerned to U.K. cohesion over above burglaries, rapes, the grooming gangs, everything else happening on the other side.
00:10:24.900 And somehow we need a realignment to politics engaged with what concerns the people on the streets.
00:10:33.720 And I hope and pray you have the same conversation in the U.S.
00:10:37.080 And really, I hope you do not have the individual that at the moment is polling to be top.
00:10:44.280 There is always a hope.
00:10:45.420 There's always change.
00:10:46.260 There's always a chance to turn the tide.
00:10:48.620 And if only voters get out and engage, then you can hold yourself back from that horrendous opportunity.
00:10:58.400 What is this thing about the digital?
00:11:00.520 I'm seeing now things, and it's not that I watch a lot of TikTok, but I'm seeing these amazing spots made on this, what, digital Brit card?
00:11:10.900 And I see Boris Johnson.
00:11:12.380 I'm not going to get it.
00:11:13.040 Are they actually trying to enforce – is the government trying to enforce that everybody will have a digital ID in the United Kingdom?
00:11:20.400 They are, and this is part of Tony Blair's legacy.
00:11:24.520 My understanding is that Tony Blair's son actually is key to the organization that wants to roll that out.
00:11:31.480 And the British government have said that this is simply as an ID.
00:11:36.700 We have an ID.
00:11:38.160 We have a – you get a driving license.
00:11:40.080 You get a provisional driving license.
00:11:41.380 I think it costs like 10 pounds.
00:11:43.040 You can get that.
00:11:44.080 The barrier is so low.
00:11:45.780 And yet they want to roll out a digital ID.
00:11:48.860 And, of course, the alarm bells start to ring.
00:11:51.160 What does this mean?
00:11:51.980 Is this a CCP credit score?
00:11:55.060 Is this 15-minute cities?
00:11:56.960 Is this controlling what we spend our money on?
00:11:59.120 Is this part of the climate alarmism?
00:12:01.300 Where does this come from?
00:12:02.540 It doesn't make any sense because you can prove who you are with an ID.
00:12:07.760 And we're told this will stop the boats coming over from France.
00:12:11.360 I've just hit 35,000.
00:12:13.420 We will be at least 20% over what we were last year.
00:12:18.500 Supposedly, having a digital ID will stop the gangs that are actually transporting people, the people traffickers.
00:12:27.940 I can't imagine people traffickers coming over and showing a digital ID and not stopping it.
00:12:34.760 It is a lie.
00:12:35.900 And the people see through it, Steve.
00:12:37.280 Peter, by the way, you mentioned – what would the people in England tell the people of the United States when President Trump says, hey, the Board of Peace, I'm going to be the chairman, but the viceroy is going to be Tony Blair?
00:12:50.640 What advice would our brothers and sisters in the United Kingdom warn us about the potential of the American Gaza plan with Tony Blair as the viceroy?
00:13:02.280 Wow.
00:13:02.920 Where did I go, Steve?
00:13:04.080 OK, in a minute or two, that fills anyone in the UK with dread.
00:13:09.720 Tony Blair is an individual that is, by and large, hated by the British people.
00:13:17.100 And to think that he will have a part to play in this new Gaza scheme, that really, really worries me. 0.95
00:13:26.100 And I just trust that President Trump has an idea, that he has a plan for this.
00:13:32.560 And I know Blair has been thrown into the mix. 1.00
00:13:35.900 We don't know exactly what part he will have to play.
00:13:38.940 He's got his fingers in so many pies.
00:13:40.900 He's been able to raise huge amounts of money.
00:13:43.920 And it worries me.
00:13:45.560 So please keep Tony Blair out of it, Steve.
00:13:48.360 Please.
00:13:49.960 He's on the payroll, half of those guys in the Gulf Emirates.
00:13:53.440 Anyway, Peter, social media, how did they get your show?
00:13:56.040 It's amazing.
00:13:56.740 We put it up a couple of times a week.
00:13:58.980 Where do people go?
00:14:00.860 So Monday, Thursday, Saturday, 3 p.m. Eastern.
00:14:04.460 Tonight, we've got Ken Blackwell, Senior Fellow Family Research Council.
00:14:10.340 And on Monday, we've got Judy Heiss, also Family Research Council, weirdly.
00:14:14.880 So much happening.
00:14:16.800 And Ken joins us tonight to talk about the shutdown, of course, but also family values and how that fits into the American dream.
00:14:24.820 And what it means.
00:14:26.640 So at Hearts of Oak, UK, ONX, at Hearts of Oak, everywhere else.
00:14:33.180 But I love it.
00:14:34.060 You get the best guess.
00:14:35.200 It's just incredible.
00:14:36.020 Peter, I know you've got to bounce.
00:14:37.240 Thank you so much for carving some time out this evening.
00:14:40.120 Thanks, Steve.
00:14:40.720 Thank you, sir.
00:14:43.580 Well, I know we set this up to do.
00:14:46.260 There's so much going on in order to start.
00:14:47.740 But I've got to ask you, President Trump, when you're doing the complexity of the Gaza situation and you throw out Tony Blair's name, given that Tony Blair is on the payroll of everybody, how does that strike?
00:15:03.120 I know you had to deal with it decades ago.
00:15:06.320 How does that strike folks in the United Kingdom?
00:15:08.580 Do they take this as serious or do they take this as somehow Tony Blair is in there with Cutter and others and there's going to be some sort of big grift?
00:15:15.600 Steve, I always hate following Peter McIlvenna on the show because he's so synthetic and so clear.
00:15:22.960 It always makes it difficult to trump whatever he's doing.
00:15:27.060 But in answer to that question, getting Tony Blair, who lied the country into the Gulf War on the basis of sexed up, those were his words, sexed up intelligence,
00:15:39.400 is rather like saying, I've got a house, a shelter for young women and I need someone to look after. 0.99
00:15:48.180 Who should I bring in? I know, let's bring in Joe Biden.
00:15:51.000 You know, there can't be a worse person to come in with his history in the Middle East than Tony Blair.
00:15:58.420 But put that aside, put that aside.
00:16:01.000 Staying on the theme of the UK and what you were asking Peter McIlvenna about just now, about the ID card.
00:16:08.740 Look, here's this. I'm here in Italy.
00:16:11.180 OK, there's been a national identity card here, the Carta d'Identità, which you have to carry on at all times whenever you leave your house.
00:16:21.460 And you also have to have what's called a codice fiscale, and you cannot be employed legally in Italy without it.
00:16:30.520 And both of those things simply serve to add bureaucracy onto the ordinary, regular, taxpaying Italian, or like me, permanent resident here.
00:16:42.340 But you go out into the field, Steve, especially out into the south of Italy, they're full, they're chock-a-block full with illegals. 0.99
00:16:51.420 And you say, well, hang on, how does that happen?
00:16:54.100 I thought you need to have, like, the official documents to be able to work in Italy.
00:16:59.760 Well, it's one thing to have the bureaucracy, and it's another thing to enforce it.
00:17:03.620 But my fear for the UK is this.
00:17:07.260 Just like in Italy, the cost and the punishment, the penalisation of this bureaucracy will fall on the shoulders, as it always does, on taxpayers.
00:17:19.280 And those who are invisible to the system will be ignored.
00:17:22.920 And I know that for a fact, Steve, because it's the UK government who's responsible, a succession of UK governments, let's be fair,
00:17:30.480 that is responsible for the third world illegal invasion in the first place, right? 0.96
00:17:36.980 They're the people who are letting this happen.
00:17:39.360 If I were a dictator of the UK in 60 seconds, I would change it.
00:17:43.220 Instead of having boats full arriving at the UK and returning to France empty,
00:17:48.500 I would have them returning, coming to the UK empty and returning full. 1.00
00:17:52.860 It's easy to achieve if you have the political will.
00:17:55.500 This government doesn't have the political will because it's not interested in representing the British people.
00:18:01.420 Neither is the sham of the Tory party.
00:18:04.520 Hence the fact that polls are saying that Nigel Farage is going to be on about 350 MPs after the next election.
00:18:13.340 That's why, if all the government is interested in doing is producing these performative, theatrical measures
00:18:20.500 that aren't going to do anything to tackle the actual problem, I'm against it.
00:18:26.420 I'm absolutely against it.
00:18:28.280 Because I know, as I said, the bureaucracy, the hassle, the inconvenience will fall on those who have nothing to do with the problem at hand.
00:18:39.800 I add to that, Steve, as I pushed out on Getter yesterday, what this government is also now doing is bringing out live facial cameras right across the UK.
00:18:51.480 This is real sort of 1984 stuff, sort of homing in and sort of zapping everyone as they're going about their daily business.
00:18:57.820 And now, of course, that's going to go into some database somewhere.
00:19:01.340 This is what, why is this, what I called on Getter the anatomy of a betrayal is this.
00:19:06.740 First, you fill the country with an invasion of third world illegal invasions. 1.00
00:19:11.720 Then you sit there, arms crossed, and watch the resulting holocaust of crime, including violent crime, including sexual crimes against women and children. 0.78
00:19:25.040 And then you clamp down on the thousand-year-old civil liberties against Britons in the UK.
00:19:34.000 And finally, you continue to do absolutely zero about the thing that caused the crime wave in the first place, which is the third world illegal invasion. 0.64
00:19:42.580 It's the anatomy of a betrayal.
00:19:44.960 So no, Steve, I'm not convinced.
00:19:46.580 And of course, I do have strong libertarian instincts anyway.
00:19:49.420 But if I thought it would do something to solve the underlying problem of the invasion, perhaps I would give it a second look.
00:19:59.200 But I can't because I know it won't.
00:20:01.640 All they are interested in doing is performative theatrics in the hope that it will slate somewhat the opposition that they see building day by day in the UK right now.
00:20:14.460 Is the—do I overstate the case that—because I really do.
00:20:24.160 I love England.
00:20:25.340 I come from an Irishman.
00:20:26.880 That's saying something.
00:20:28.480 Of course, I love our native Ireland, and I see it following England so rapidly because of the globalists that have sold out the people.
00:20:36.140 But my fear—Ireland, in this regard, it's starting, but it's years behind.
00:20:40.140 But in England, I actually see—and someone who's been intimately involved in British politics and particularly the Brexit movement, supporting Nigel Farage and others of our colleagues over there, and having Raheem and you as kind of co-hosts and collaborators and sidekicks.
00:20:58.640 Do I overstate the case that England, I think, is hurtling towards—not sliding anymore, but hurtling towards a potential civil war unless the political process actually kicks in and starts to take the corrective actions that you're talking about?
00:21:13.180 I think Nigel Farage is going to be the release on the pressure cooker that will stop that from happening.
00:21:21.400 But if it weren't for Nigel, yes, I think that's the—that would definitely—what's coming closer, sort of day by day, month by month, year by year.
00:21:30.200 There are two things here, Steve, right?
00:21:32.500 There's the possibility of revolution and there's a possibility of civil war.
00:21:37.340 And they are both responses to a particular set of circumstances that, inside the system, there's been a failure to acknowledge and deal with.
00:21:46.860 That's why people have defaulted to systematic reform outside.
00:21:52.720 I do think, whilst it is absolutely a realistic possibility, I do think the UK is heading more towards revolution rather than civil war.
00:22:03.580 Civil war is something I think is far more close to the United States over the next 20 or so years, rather than, say, revolution.
00:22:14.860 And as I say, these are particular contexts to do with what is precisely wrong with the system, wrong with the political system, wrong with the ability to respond to people's needs.
00:22:25.940 But both of these things are ever-present, not just in the UK, Steve, not just in the United States, but right across the Western world.
00:22:33.760 Amazing. And I will say something about Nigel. Nigel is definitely coming closer to our position here in the United States with the MAGA movement.
00:22:47.100 You know, Nigel, for years, did not – it was only a couple of weeks ago.
00:22:51.160 I think it was six weeks ago that Nigel, for the first time, started talking about mass deportations.
00:22:57.200 Mass deportations.
00:22:58.240 That had not been part of his – you know, he's much more – he's been adamant about warning about it and about solutions, but he hasn't gone to the solutions that ultimately – I mean, it's here.
00:23:09.900 It's what's happening in the United States is why President Trump has sent the Secretary of War to Memphis, why he's sending a federalized National Guard into Portland.
00:23:20.340 We are now entering the phase of going to the mass deportations, and the pushback by the radicals in our country is over the top.
00:23:30.420 I mean, they are getting – not just getting away in law enforcement.
00:23:33.200 They intend to harm law enforcement and to shut this down.
00:23:36.360 So – and for us, it absolutely must happen.
00:23:39.940 And this is going to get – it's going to get nasty because the radical Democrats, the entire party is built on illegal immigration or scamming the visa program.
00:23:49.200 That's – 100 percent, that's where their party is.
00:23:51.360 Without that, that's why they fought so hard to have the census gun-decked, which it was in 2020.
00:23:58.240 Without the illegal invasion, without the illegal aliens, without scammers off of the legal immigration process, and the legal immigration process is totally out of control.
00:24:07.440 They don't exist.
00:24:08.220 They're the Whigs, and they know this. 0.97
00:24:09.880 This is why this whole government shutdown is about – they've made it about the funding of illegal aliens' medical costs.
00:24:16.640 And we're just adamantly opposed.
00:24:18.500 It will just – it will never happen.
00:24:19.880 It's nothing – it's not – this is why there's no negotiation, nothing to negotiate, nothing to talk about.
00:24:24.560 And so Nigel is coming our way.
00:24:25.900 Why don't you hang on, Ben?
00:24:26.800 We've got so much more to go through, and we're going to get into it.
00:24:30.780 We've got an amazing article in The Atlantic about Vietnam.
00:24:35.160 Also, I want to talk to Ben, when we do come back, about an increasing dangerous situation in Ukraine.
00:24:41.520 Ukraine is a little out of the news, but there's so much going on, as President Trump clearly is having frustration with why he can't get Putin to the table to actually make a deal.
00:24:51.200 But now there's a – I think a major escalation that's going on that people aren't quite aware of.
00:24:57.860 Gold at $3,900.
00:24:59.980 One of the things that drives gold is turbulence.
00:25:03.800 The central banks look at gold as a hedge.
00:25:05.940 Now they're looking at it as a major asset class because they understand having euros and U.S. dollars is maybe not the best reserves to always have, to be overloaded.
00:25:17.800 It's the central banks purchasing – with major financial institutions purchasing gold and making gold part of its asset class, which you never heard before.
00:25:25.640 You never heard about hedge funds buying gold.
00:25:27.880 Well, that's what's happening now.
00:25:29.480 It's one of the reasons gold's over the price of $3,900.
00:25:33.940 We started with $1,100.
00:25:36.440 People just said never in a million years are going to get to $4,000.
00:25:39.480 Well, hey, we said last week – last week we said it's going to blow through $3,900.
00:25:44.920 Went through $3,900 this morning as we started the morning show.
00:25:47.340 Now it backs off every day.
00:25:48.520 You get it up, and then it's going to back off a little point, and then the next day you reach another high.
00:25:52.760 We're not here to tell you, oh, go buy gold because $3,900.
00:25:55.420 We do not do that.
00:25:56.300 We've never done that since $1,100.
00:25:57.760 We basically – our situation with Birch Gold is to give you access to information so that you can think it through yourself.
00:26:07.840 Ben says he's a libertarian.
00:26:09.440 Libertarian is based upon self-determination, self-reliance.
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00:32:52.420 Philip Patrick and the team. Ben, I've got two other things. I want to get to Ukraine and I got to get to the
00:32:57.480 Pope's situation. And then we're supposed to get to the Atlantic article. We may not have time. We'll
00:33:01.740 have to, I want, because I want to do a whole segment on that. But you have some observations
00:33:06.340 on what we just talked about first. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned that Nigel Farage is, has only recently
00:33:13.080 swung around to the position, I think six or so weeks ago of the mass deportations. Look, the reason
00:33:21.040 for that is that effectively Nigel Farage started his political career, say 30, 20, 20, 30 years ago,
00:33:30.140 where Margaret Thatcher left off. And there's a strong core of Thatcherism, I think, in a lot of what
00:33:39.840 of Nigel's saying. And the anti-immigration thing historically hasn't been part of that mix.
00:33:46.980 The reason that he swung around is not just because he's a populist, that that's part of
00:33:53.200 it. It's because he knows where the British people is. And the Uni Party, comprised of the
00:34:00.160 Tories and the Labour, have an almost autistic indifference about where the British people
00:34:08.700 are. They see three million people coming out and marching behind Tommy Robinson, carrying
00:34:14.320 aloft photos and pictures of Charlie Kirk chanting his name. They see this. And the only thing
00:34:22.600 that they can do, the establishment, is say, oh, look, these guys are all white supremacists. 1.00
00:34:28.020 They're all thugs. You look at the photos, you look at the footage. These are ordinary working 1.00
00:34:31.980 families. It might have been true, Steve, 20 years ago, this kind of rally would have had
00:34:36.840 the thugs, the skinheads, the football hooligans, what have you. This is Middle England that's
00:34:42.820 coming out now. That is the transformation that has taken place in the face of the third
00:34:48.620 world illegal invasion. And our political establishment hasn't been able to recognise the transformation
00:34:55.600 that that has caused amongst the sentiment of the British people. Nigel Farage has seen
00:35:01.480 it. He has noted it. He has extremely sensitive political antennae. And that's why he's turning
00:35:07.820 around and saying, yep, mass deportations, it's the only thing that's going to work in the UK.
00:35:13.220 And that's the difference between him and the Uni Party, the two wings of the Uni Party.
00:35:19.600 And that is why, Steve, to pick up the point that Peter McIlvenna was saying in the first half
00:35:24.180 of the show, with only six members of parliament out of a parliament of 650 MPs, Nigel Farage has more,
00:35:33.000 what he says and what he thinks has more dramatic impact on the political agenda.
00:35:39.780 I can just say right now, we're not going to get to the McNamara thing, which is monumental. We'll
00:35:43.780 figure that out because we've got to address that on McNamara and Vietnam and the analogy they're
00:35:48.160 making to the day. How did it, and this is what shocks me, because I consider myself a student of
00:35:55.560 British history, and particularly the empire, and my love for the Royal Navy and for
00:36:03.500 Admiral Nelson is really what got me into it. I don't understand. You have to help me here.
00:36:10.680 How did our mother country, and if you study the American Revolution, to me, one of the most
00:36:16.660 fascinating parts is the debates in England about the America. It's nothing we're taught in American
00:36:21.540 schools at all. This was Great Britain's Vietnam. You had Englishmen essentially saying at the
00:36:30.360 beginning of an empire, which at the same time you were doing India, they were the two 0.94
00:36:34.560 footings of what was going to be a massive empire run by Englishmen, and our guys opted out,
00:36:41.980 and particularly opted out, which is not taught, I think, even in England enough, the monopolistic
00:36:46.060 power of things like the crown gave the British East India Company. Our guys, I say, our revolutionary
00:36:53.460 generation were, one, deal lawyers, real estate speculators like General Washington, or free
00:36:59.880 booters and smugglers like Hancock and Sam Adams, but they were entrepreneurs, and they didn't want
00:37:05.480 part of this. They wanted out, but the debates in commons are absolutely, with Edmund Burke and
00:37:10.560 these guys are absolutely amazing. How did this, that institution, and even the debates in the 30s
00:37:16.680 leading up to World War II and how the British comported itself with Churchill on this, how did
00:37:20.920 it deteriorate to a political class that is paralyzed? The one thing you say about the Brits
00:37:26.480 throughout their history, they ain't been paralyzed. They built the greatest empire since the Roman Empire
00:37:31.720 before the American Empire, but they were never paralyzed. Their political elite, your political elite
00:37:37.780 are such second and third tier, they're so mediocre, beyond mediocre compared to what you see in British
00:37:45.240 arts, with British industry, British finance, and they're absolutely paralyzed by a media that 0.97
00:37:54.140 obviously and consistently lies to British people stupidly, like BBC. The BBC stuff is ridiculous how 0.98
00:38:01.560 dumb it is. How have you had what used to be considered, I guess, the world's really leading 0.99
00:38:08.200 democracy in a parliament that set the standard of which the Americans kind of used as a, because
00:38:15.200 remember, the Senate's really the House of Lords and the House of Representatives, the House of Commons,
00:38:20.280 close to the people every two years. How do we get to a situation that your institutions are frozen
00:38:27.820 by actions they've taken, and they can't come, they can't get themselves out of it, sir?
00:38:36.540 Okay, let's look at the similarities between the US and the UK. Historically, the genius between the
00:38:43.180 two systems was that we had, in both countries, we had a political class that was motivated to an equal
00:38:49.800 extent by cynicism and idealism, in both cases. And now there's no idealism, it's just pure cynicism.
00:38:59.640 That's part of the response. Another part of the response is the omnipresence of media that for
00:39:09.800 generations, for decades and generations, has formed both peoples, brainwashed them with propaganda.
00:39:18.280 And that picks up directly on what you were just saying about the BBC. It had a tremendously corrosive
00:39:25.240 effect on the British people. I can tell you, a tremendously corrosive effect, the BBC.
00:39:34.280 The other thing I would have to throw into the mix, if we're talking about the deterioration in the body
00:39:39.800 politics of both countries, would be the widening of the suffrage of who can vote, the universal suffrage.
00:39:48.280 Now, everyone who is basically looking at this now and coming up with their own ideas of what
00:39:53.800 precisely went wrong. But I think that the fundamental shtick, no, no, the fundamental factor here
00:40:00.200 in the degradation of our political life is that people have had a vote without having any
00:40:08.200 valuable input into the system which they now have a say in. That's fundamentally the issue.
00:40:15.880 Look, the Americans from the Boston Tea Party onward had this expression, no taxation without
00:40:22.440 representation. I'd invert it. I'd say no representation without taxation. I would say,
00:40:28.680 because the technology is now here, you know, with the Brit card that we're going to have,
00:40:32.680 it'll make it even easier. The technology is here to know who are net contributors to the system
00:40:39.400 and who are not, who are net recipients. You know, perhaps after, if we're going to go to a
00:40:46.280 civil war and or revolution, I think out of the ashes, when we're looking at what went wrong,
00:40:53.160 what we could do better next time, perhaps not do this universal suffrage thing again,
00:40:58.120 because all it does is it gives people who have no, no positive net contribution to the system
00:41:06.600 and means to vote for themselves, the wealth of their, of their neighbors. But worse than that,
00:41:11.800 it's nothing has exploded the national debt than, than the fiat press and, and, and universal
00:41:18.120 suffrage put together. And these two things are absolutely, but when you say, when you say,
00:41:22.920 when you say, when you say universal suffrage, you're not talking about women voting,
00:41:27.160 right? You're not, you're not going for a manosphere on me. Correct. Okay. You're talking
00:41:31.880 about, I don't want to say it's Mitt Romney, but this is something Mitt, this is something Mitt Romney
00:41:35.640 brought up with the 47% that don't pay any federal tax. You're saying that the, the inclusion of people
00:41:41.960 that are basically wards of the state, allow them to vote. You're going to just get more broader, uh,
00:41:47.880 services and payments to the wards of the state without the economic engine that can, that can pay for
00:41:53.480 that. Correct. Yeah. Um, I mean, I had to put it in different words, but that is, that is exactly
00:41:58.920 the system. That is exactly what you get. Um, and it's degrading the political system.
00:42:04.920 I, I, I told you, I told you Ben's a libertarian. That's libertarian one of them. It's great. I got
00:42:11.000 it. I don't agree with it, but hang on. I, I, you're, you're one of the smartest guys to know.
00:42:15.160 I got to do this because you and I have to address this together. Uh, we're now going to pivot to our
00:42:21.880 favorite topic, the Catholic church. Let's go ahead and play. I tell you, Ben, it's hard to shock me as,
00:42:28.840 as much as we've seen together and working together and then with Andrew and everything,
00:42:32.680 it's hard to shock me. But when I saw this first, I literally thought it was a Saturday. I thought it
00:42:37.480 was a Saturday night live skit. I had to be convinced after watching a half a dozen times
00:42:43.240 that it actually took place. Let's go. This is a couple of days ago in the Vatican. Let's go ahead
00:42:48.440 and play this.
00:43:07.480 Wow.
00:43:18.440 Lord of life, bless this water. May it awaken our hearts, cleanse our indifference,
00:43:31.880 soothe our grief, and renew our hope through Christ our Lord.
00:43:38.120 If you were listening in and didn't get to see, you had, you have, uh, the Pope go over to a,
00:43:43.880 uh, iceberg and a big, huge block of ice that is melting with a bunch of people in this weird set.
00:43:51.720 And, uh, he takes the time and he puts his head over and he blesses it. Then he comes back and he's
00:43:57.240 going to go to this essentially religious service. Now they said, this is the blessing of the waters,
00:44:02.120 which is something we have done in traditional times of like the rivers and, you know, these,
00:44:06.120 these ceremonies to, to thank God for the seasons and for the growing season, all that. That's not
00:44:11.240 what this was. This was an absolute pagan ceremony. And I hate to say that Stephen K Bannon warned
00:44:18.040 everybody. I'm the only person on earth that came out publicly beforehand and said Prevost was going to
00:44:23.560 be the Pope. And I said exactly why Prevost is going to be the Pope. He's actually more radical than
00:44:29.560 Francis, but he's a pleasanter personality. He's much more articulate. He's a gentle guy. He's got the
00:44:36.040 best optics and the American donors who really dry, who really put up all the money for the church,
00:44:40.920 which is now broke are going to feel very comfortable because he's going to have them.
00:44:44.600 He's going to give them the plaques that bless their marriage after 25 years. And he's going to
00:44:48.120 go to conferences. He's gone. This is a pagan ceremony. If you're a Catholic and I read most 0.77
00:44:54.280 of our audience is evangelical or Jewish or, or, or maybe agnostics. There are lots of Catholics in
00:44:59.240 the audience, but if you're a Catholic, you believe to the core of your being, he is the representative
00:45:05.400 of Jesus Christ on earth in an unbroken chain that goes back for 2025 years. And what happened right
00:45:15.000 there is a pagan ceremony, uh, that talks about, you know, the, the climate change, the climate change
00:45:21.160 is just a, a pagan religion of Gaia, of mother earth being like a living being, right? Like a living
00:45:27.400 being that is to be worshiped. And right there you saw under the guise of climate change and global
00:45:33.640 warming, the worship of mother nature. That's a pagan ceremony. Therefore, if you're the vicar of 0.89
00:45:40.280 Christ and you engage in and lead a pagan ceremony, you lose the, the, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,
00:45:49.240 stamp, right. Of being the vicar of Christ on earth. Now, Ben Harnwell, where am I wrong in that?
00:45:56.040 You're not wrong in any place on that, Steve. Let me zoom out a bit. I know we've got, I've
00:46:01.560 only got a couple of minutes left now. Let me zoom out a bit on a recent Wednesday evening show that,
00:46:06.840 that we do, uh, once a week with, uh, with Liz Yor and Frank Walker, we discussed the, the fact that
00:46:14.920 POTUS put out a statement, um, to celebrate with Christians, effectively Catholics, because this is a 0.96
00:46:23.960 Catholic thing. They're the feast day of Saint Michael the Archangel. Um, and there's nothing 0.98
00:46:30.680 more Catholic really than, than doing that. And I'm praying to Saint Michael the Archangel as a
00:46:36.760 protection against Satan. And I made the suggestion on our Wednesday show that really what you're seeing
00:46:44.280 here, because only POTUS could really, only President Trump could really get away with this.
00:46:48.920 Um, he's, he's at the apex now, the political inspiration for evangelicals, but also for
00:46:56.280 traditional Catholics together, one in the same person who straddles both. Um, and he can really
00:47:02.680 be the bridge. And I, I suggested that the Holy Spirit might be using President Trump as the bridge
00:47:09.160 between traditional Catholics and conservative evangelicals. And I think that's a beautiful
00:47:14.840 thing. And I pointed out as well that Charlie Kirk was carrying a medallion to Saint Michael the
00:47:20.040 Archangel when he was shot. Split screen. So that's, that's what the Holy Spirit is doing
00:47:27.080 via the American president. The successor to Saint Peter. Okay. An old expression that the Catholics 1.00
00:47:35.560 used to use, the bark of Saint Peter to refer to that as the Catholic Church. That is to say,
00:47:40.040 the fisherman's boat belonging to Peter, in which Christ came in and preached from.
00:47:46.760 The bark of Saint Peter has effectively hit an iceberg. That is my metaphor from that screen.
00:47:54.360 That is the bark of Saint Peter, like the Titanic, bang into this iceberg. Let me be clear,
00:48:01.240 Steve, about what I'm talking about here. Like, inverted commas, Pope Leo has just put up a giant
00:48:08.840 middle finger. And I'm sorry to be so graphic about this. He's put a giant middle finger right in the
00:48:16.920 face of traditional Catholics and conservative evangelicals. This is scandalizing also Christians 0.98
00:48:24.760 outside of the Catholic communion. And I'm very glad he has done this, right? Because Steve, you,
00:48:33.000 this, this show, the war room, Frank Walker, Canon 212, Chris Jackson, right? We are very,
00:48:41.400 very few indeed. And you are absolutely correct that you were the only guy in media coming out saying,
00:48:48.280 warning about the election of Cardinal Prevost, right? We have been very few indeed over the last
00:48:56.200 four months warning about this papacy in the face of Trad Inc. that has been grifting off the,
00:49:03.240 oh, look, he had the red mozzetta when he came out on the loggia. Let's give, let's give Leo some time,
00:49:08.920 right? We have been proved right. It pains me to say this. It pains me to say that what the so-called
00:49:19.000 Pope is doing is literally scandalous. But, you know, where man sins, God can bring about a greater
00:49:26.280 good. The greater good will be this. Faithful Catholics do not give this hierarchy your docile
00:49:33.400 obedience. What we must do, and I say this again and again and again on the show, what we must
00:49:38.760 do as Catholics is take the running of our church out of the hands of these corrupt atheists, these 1.00
00:49:46.440 corrupt pagan atheist communists and reset the Catholic Church on the path according to Jesus 0.99
00:49:53.880 Christ. And if you don't get that message after watching this video, folks, then I will pray for 0.56
00:50:01.400 you that you find the courage because that will happen and we have to make it happen.
00:50:05.480 Ben, uh, social media, uh, very profound. Where do people go to, uh, to follow you? The shows you do
00:50:13.160 now and the, uh, and all the great commentary you put up. Thanks, Steve. On get as my social media
00:50:19.080 platform of choice, tap in my surname, Hanwell. And if you think folks that you've heard provocations
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00:50:32.280 and I have to discuss Ukraine. Uh, very serious situation there as we slide into the kinetic part
00:50:38.840 of the third world war. Ben, thank you so much. Thanks, Steve. Thank our sponsor also, Birch Gold.
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00:52:03.720 You know, I didn't know this until the, uh, the guys at Field of Greens, the doctors and the experts
00:52:10.040 told me about it and then gave me information. It was fascinating. We have two ages, our actual age and
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