Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 905： White House： EU faces “civilisational erasure” within 20 years

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.680 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.920 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.180 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.120 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.540 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.280 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.220 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.480 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.880 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.780 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.660 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.420 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.780 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:48.060 Friday, 5th of December, Anno Domini, 2025.

00:01:00.800 Hanwell here at the helm at Steve Bannon's War Room.

00:01:04.520 Well, today is really where we're going to live up to our motto of signal, not noise.

00:01:09.200 Something very important happened with the administration overnight,

00:01:14.020 and we're now going to have a special, a Friday night special breaking this down.

00:01:18.380 That is, the Trump administration has published a US national security strategy

00:01:23.760 in which it suggests that the EU, continental Europe,

00:01:28.940 is facing within the next 20 years, civilizational erasure.

00:01:35.700 And why I say this is signal, not noise,

00:01:37.720 because sometimes it's easy to get distracted by talking about,

00:01:42.080 oh, look at Trump, he's worrying, he's paying attention to the gilding in the Oval Office

00:01:47.620 and all the rest of it, building a ballroom and all the rest of it.

00:01:51.120 And these things are certainly taking place and taking energy.

00:01:54.860 This, what has happened today, this will fundamentally,

00:01:58.620 if the administration shows the discipline to follow through

00:02:03.060 on what's outlined in this document, this will change the debate fundamentally,

00:02:08.180 not only, obviously, in the United States,

00:02:10.540 but also, especially, perhaps, here in continental Europe,

00:02:14.600 which this report outlines is a key strategic partner to the United States.

00:02:20.060 That's why it's so important.

00:02:21.520 That's why President Trump has published this strategic review.

00:02:28.120 Therefore, to break this down, my first guest today,

00:02:30.980 someone I've known for nearly 20 years,

00:02:34.080 a former member of the European Parliament,

00:02:36.160 I knew him when he was an MEP in Brussels,

00:02:39.420 and I was a lowly parliamentary assistant.

00:02:41.380 We worked very closely together in promoting the values of Christian civilisation

00:02:48.080 in the political sphere.

00:02:49.640 Roberto Fiore, welcome on to the show.

00:02:52.500 Now, Roberto, as I mentioned, was a...

00:02:55.860 Hi, Roberto.

00:02:57.480 Roberto is a former member of the European Parliament, as I was saying,

00:03:01.320 leader of Forza Nuova, which is, and I'll say this for our American audience,

00:03:06.820 it's positioned to the right of the Fratelli d'Italia,

00:03:11.700 the Brothers of Italy, which is the party of the Prime Minister,

00:03:16.020 Giorgia Malone, of which we have a lot to say frequently on this show.

00:03:23.420 So I think that's a reasonable description of Forza Nuova.

00:03:26.120 Roberto, welcome on to the show.

00:03:29.580 Now, I know that this report is breaking waves in Europe

00:03:33.540 because we spoke about it earlier on today.

00:03:35.860 Tell me, what was your reaction to this document?

00:03:38.540 And then I'm going to break down a little bit what's actually in it

00:03:41.160 and why it will be of interest to the Warwim audience.

00:03:46.180 Well, I think that this document is particularly important.

00:03:52.140 It's very topical because it touches the two essential points.

00:03:57.380 One is immigration and the other one is the demographic collapse.

00:04:05.560 These things, you can put them together, but you can also isolate them as issues.

00:04:11.380 And the demographic issue is something that has not started today.

00:04:16.100 In 1997, when our movement started, we issued eight points.

00:04:23.300 One of the points was demography.

00:04:25.100 We already saw then the development of a sort of culture, of philosophy,

00:04:33.960 but especially of a policy that was really targeting family

00:04:41.080 as something obsolete that had to be overcome

00:04:46.180 and it shouldn't be anymore the central point of society.

00:04:50.820 And as a part of that, to have more children was seen as a disgrace.

00:04:57.700 There was no premium or help to the families to have more children,

00:05:03.780 help to the mothers to, for instance, if they wanted to stay at home 0.59

00:05:07.660 and take care of them.

00:05:09.360 No, it was forbidden to talk about a salary to the mothers.

00:05:13.180 Now the demographic issue has exploded and it's becoming something that everyone talks about it.

00:05:20.840 We can just say, okay, we said it before, but we think that we should do something now.

00:05:26.220 And what the administration has done yesterday, last night, is of fundamental importance

00:05:34.400 because it highlights two, three points.

00:05:38.200 One, the demographic collapse.

00:05:40.100 Two, the incredible push also in Italy,

00:05:43.620 because in Italy we're having 350,000 immigrants regular coming from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Africa, 0.87

00:05:52.500 which is ridiculous.

00:05:53.740 No one understands what's the logic of it, but 350,000 every year.

00:05:58.820 And the third issue is the diminishing of the freedom of people to speak about things.

00:06:07.220 We have two laws, Mancino laws and Sherba laws, 1.00

00:06:10.700 that are just there to hit people who say something that the establishment doesn't like.

00:06:16.640 And these two laws are alive and well with the Maloney government.

00:06:22.840 So this is the issue.

00:06:24.560 The people are going towards the traditional ideas that also the administration has pushed yesterday,

00:06:32.800 that Vance talked about when he was in Munich.

00:06:35.320 All these things are widely accepted by the normal people in Italy,

00:06:40.400 but the establishment is death.

00:06:43.660 Okay, let me stop you on that point now.

00:06:46.160 Yeah, because as I say, we've known one another nearly 20 years,

00:06:50.980 and you've been pushing these themes before they became mainstream, as it were.

00:06:57.280 Let's put it like that.

00:07:01.600 And I can say with first-hand experience,

00:07:04.340 the attempts to silence you when you were in the European Parliament

00:07:07.100 because of your consistency on these things.

00:07:10.700 And like on the demographic point, by the way,

00:07:14.540 your contribution to Italy's demography is well known.

00:07:18.440 I think you have like a whole tribe of children.

00:07:23.240 How many kids do you have?

00:07:26.080 Eleven.

00:07:27.700 Eleven.

00:07:28.460 So that's your single-handed contribution to reversing the demographic tide.

00:07:34.120 I cannot do it on my own.

00:07:35.600 I cannot do it on my own.

00:07:38.580 Of course not.

00:07:39.660 Of course not.

00:07:40.160 You always have an Esmeralda at your side.

00:07:43.260 So you've been pushing these issues before they were popular.

00:07:47.700 What I want to ask you, Roberto,

00:07:49.520 and I'm very grateful that you've come on the show today,

00:07:51.720 is it was easy for the European establishment in Brussels

00:07:56.420 and also in Italy,

00:07:58.020 even from supposedly right-wing groupings like the Fratelli d'Italia,

00:08:03.520 to isolate you and say,

00:08:05.360 this guy is an extremist.

00:08:08.420 He doesn't represent anyone.

00:08:09.640 In fact,

00:08:10.740 you've just had your full mandate that you've been pushing for decades,

00:08:14.800 pretty much word for word endorsed by the Trump administration.

00:08:18.460 How important is this going to be to you making these arguments here in Italy and with your allied,

00:08:28.900 because you're also president of the Alliance for Peace and Freedom,

00:08:31.580 which is the European networking of allied movements across continental Europe.

00:08:37.200 How important do you think this is going to be?

00:08:40.120 Because this is what the administration has published with this national security strategy

00:08:44.360 is what we've been crying out for, really,

00:08:47.580 since Trump descended the golden escalator in 2015,

00:08:50.980 which is a serious concerted sort of extension of help for what we're trying to do here in Europe

00:08:57.360 and a massive sign of credibility and authority for the arguments that we've been making, right?

00:09:04.600 This is it.

00:09:05.600 What is coming from America, it's something that was fairly unexpected.

00:09:13.260 Okay.

00:09:14.260 We saw things happening.

00:09:15.260 We followed what's happening with the MAGA movement and so on.

00:09:20.260 But a so stark pronunciation, a so stark statement, to talk about the erasure of civilization,

00:09:28.900 to talk about an imminent collapse of civilization, is something very, very important.

00:09:35.420 Because first things, the administration can say,

00:09:38.040 look, we have done what we had the duty to do.

00:09:42.500 Okay.

00:09:42.800 That's the first point. 0.99

00:09:44.020 Now it's for the politician to say, well, this is rubbish, 0.95

00:09:48.160 or to say, well, this is true, we've got to do something.

00:09:51.460 Now I am the first one that can say easily and with some ideas to surround the sort of the entire opinion

00:10:05.200 that we can still do something.

00:10:07.900 The first thing I would say is especially connected to the role of women. 0.99

00:10:11.940 If the women have children, it's important that states help them to take care of children. 1.00

00:10:21.160 We cannot have women having one child or child and a half then to go to work 1.00

00:10:27.520 and then to have a nanny or a nurse to come and to help the children.

00:10:33.760 It doesn't make any sense.

00:10:34.900 We need to have proper wages for the women in order to give strength to the family. 1.00

00:10:43.420 That's the first thing.

00:10:44.380 The other thing I would do, we have got a lot of Italians who are, for instance, in Venezuela,

00:10:50.700 who cannot stand Maduro, who want to come back.

00:10:53.560 We have got 2,200,000 Italians.

00:10:56.900 Well, we should tell them, come back here, because if the gap between birth and death is, like today,

00:11:05.920 370,000 births and 770,000 deaths, look, it's a disaster.

00:11:13.260 It just counts the years until they collapse.

00:11:16.160 So we've got to do something immediate.

00:11:18.640 The thing we can do immediate is to welcome the Italians.

00:11:22.040 We've got 100 million Italians in the world to welcome the Italian backs and not to have a flux of people coming from Pakistan 1.00

00:11:32.240 or other Pakistan or Bangladesh, countries that have got nothing to do with Italy, to come in 100,000 every year.

00:11:39.720 This is just crazy.

00:11:41.340 And this is something that has been told very clearly by the Trump administration today.

00:11:49.780 Roberta, stay with us.

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00:11:55.420 When we come back after that, I am going to ask you for your take on what we were discussing this morning,

00:12:02.260 which is the full frontal assault.

00:12:04.840 As you were saying at the beginning, Roberta, you were saying about J.D. Vance's speech to the Munich Security Conference.

00:12:13.900 Those themes are taken front and centre in this 33-page document.

00:12:18.140 And it really does illustrate the degree to which the European Union, as an institution,

00:12:24.900 is the key threat on Europeans' civil liberties, such as free speech and what have you. 0.72

00:12:33.820 Roberta, I'll ask you for your take on that point as well.

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00:15:09.140 Okay, let's get back now to Roberto Fiore.

00:15:13.060 So I just want to quote, Roberto, something that is cited in this U.S. national security strategy,

00:15:20.220 which is something these strategies often in an administration will typically produce one every mandate.

00:15:28.260 So here's an extract.

00:15:31.300 This is pretty word perfect.

00:16:00.540 And typically for Donald Trump, it's saying what a lot of people are thinking,

00:16:06.820 but few have the courage to say.

00:16:08.400 You've had the courage to say this for many years.

00:16:11.000 And now you've found that your sort of voice crying out in the wilderness has now been amplified somewhat

00:16:21.460 by having these very thoughts picked up by the most economically, military, culturally powerful nation on the planet.

00:16:30.900 Tell me about this point here, about the European Union and other transnational bodies that undermine political liberty and sovereignty.

00:16:41.720 Because this is obviously a theme that you have some personal experience in combating.

00:16:46.680 Vice President Vance said something very important about the attack to freedoms in the United Kingdom,

00:16:59.580 the fact that anti-abortionist activists were taken into prison for having prayed outside,

00:17:07.620 for having silently prayed outside abortion clinics.

00:17:11.260 Okay, this is something that obviously hit the imagination of many people.

00:17:15.920 People can't believe it.

00:17:17.260 But it's something happening.

00:17:19.420 And the two issues that are particularly relevant for the establishment that is trying to erase freedom

00:17:31.000 are immigration and abortion.

00:17:33.420 In Italy, it has been particularly strong, the attack on the freedom to speak about immigration.

00:17:40.620 Because to say something about the flow of immigrants, 0.60

00:17:45.760 to say something about the fact that the nature of the Italian people is changing,

00:17:52.140 to say the fact that, for instance, in certain areas there is an arrogant group of people

00:17:58.420 who actually make their own laws and push the Italian way from crucial areas near the stations

00:18:05.740 or doing things like that, arrogant and violent,

00:18:09.840 to say these things, to denounce these things,

00:18:13.640 you risk to have a case, to go to prison or to be sentenced.

00:18:22.100 Don't forget that in Italy you have a system, basically you have an entire generation of magistrates

00:18:31.500 or prosecutors that come from the extreme left,

00:18:36.540 and they are particularly concentrating in reducing the freedom of normal people,

00:18:43.840 and especially of nationalists and patriots who actually believe that everyone should say what he thinks,

00:18:51.480 and the soul of the people, the freedom of the people in speaking the truth

00:18:56.380 or what they think is the truth, is essential to respect the freedom.

00:19:01.600 So, Van's speech in Munich and the declaration today of the administration

00:19:11.140 are extremely relevant for us to fight this sort of Orwellian establishment

00:19:18.380 that is taking over all over Western Europe.

00:19:24.180 Roberto, we have about five minutes left of this,

00:19:29.160 and there is something I really must ask you.

00:19:33.560 Let me quote again from this strategic review.

00:19:36.900 It says,

00:19:37.020 America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit

00:19:42.900 and the growing influence of patriotic European parties

00:19:46.460 indeed gives cause for great optimism.

00:19:49.840 Now, I want to inject a word of caution here,

00:19:53.080 because whilst there is definitely a patriotic sort of revival taking place,

00:19:58.380 a nationalist revival taking place,

00:20:00.080 what is also taking place on the back of that is a lot of performative theatrics

00:20:06.480 from centre-right politicians who aren't even centre-right,

00:20:10.260 they're globalist uni-party,

00:20:13.920 pretending to be right-wing and centre-right,

00:20:17.140 or even nationalist,

00:20:18.660 when they're not remotely.

00:20:19.960 It's just they're saying the words.

00:20:22.460 We see this every day here in Italy.

00:20:24.960 They say the words,

00:20:25.780 but there's zero action behind that.

00:20:28.240 And I would obviously urge the Trump administration,

00:20:33.220 as it rolls through in following through on this agenda,

00:20:38.760 to be extremely cautious when it's talking about European allies,

00:20:42.120 because not everyone who schleps over to the White House

00:20:44.980 is an ally of President Trump or his agenda.

00:20:48.040 There are two things in this report, I think,

00:20:50.520 that make that absolutely clear,

00:20:52.200 and that's the relationship with Russia and the war in Ukraine.

00:20:55.780 And I know, I think pretty much Forza Nuova

00:20:58.160 is probably the only political party on the right

00:21:02.180 that has a coherent view on both these.

00:21:05.780 Would you just sort of, to our largely American audience, Roberto,

00:21:09.440 would you just say what your view is

00:21:11.300 regarding to, what Forza Nuova's view is

00:21:14.860 with regards to the war in Ukraine,

00:21:17.760 which you've maintained right from the beginning,

00:21:19.720 and also the appropriate relationship

00:21:22.960 that Italy and all Western countries,

00:21:25.340 like the UK and America as well,

00:21:27.540 should try to pursue with Russia?

00:21:32.860 Since the beginning,

00:21:34.200 we have taken a very clear line.

00:21:36.480 There should be no war,

00:21:38.200 no brothers' wars,

00:21:39.460 because those people are brothers,

00:21:42.060 Ukrainians and Russians.

00:21:43.440 You could argue that Ukrainians are Russian.

00:21:45.840 You say, no, maybe they're not Russian,

00:21:47.580 but they're still they're brothers.

00:21:49.400 And that war has been engineered

00:21:51.940 in certain circles in Europe,

00:21:55.320 and I'm afraid to say into the Biden circle.

00:22:00.040 The administration and the Secretary of State

00:22:02.920 before, well, at the time of Biden,

00:22:05.900 Nuland, had very much to do

00:22:07.600 with the beginning of the war in that area.

00:22:11.640 We think that Russia plays a prominent role.

00:22:17.260 Russia is not anymore a Marxist country.

00:22:20.900 Russia is a Christian Orthodox 0.86

00:22:22.940 and nationalist country

00:22:26.220 that should be part of Europe.

00:22:29.440 This is the essential point.

00:22:31.000 It's a very simple change of,

00:22:33.880 how can I say, change of actors.

00:22:36.480 Europe can be strong again with Russia 1.00

00:22:40.940 that, not just European and Russia.

00:22:44.900 I wouldn't define,

00:22:46.140 I wouldn't divide Russia

00:22:48.820 in Asiatic and European.

00:22:50.720 We should consider Russia 1.00

00:22:51.880 until the Bering, 0.90

00:22:54.140 the Bering point near you, near Alaska.

00:22:58.180 So Europe has to be part

00:23:02.300 of the same continent of Russia and Ukraine.

00:23:05.500 So this is the starting point.

00:23:07.480 There is no point in buying

00:23:09.580 a huge amount of weapons

00:23:11.120 to have an escalation

00:23:14.620 in sort of,

00:23:17.520 in a sort of, towards a war.

00:23:20.660 There is no point in having that.

00:23:22.900 We should have a policy of peace

00:23:25.300 to have Christianity,

00:23:27.400 Christendom, I would say more than that,

00:23:29.260 Christendom at the center of the policy,

00:23:32.580 which is something that has been avoided

00:23:35.280 since 1945.

00:23:37.560 Since 1945, the establishment

00:23:40.460 has gone towards a sort of liberal position

00:23:44.740 that undermines tradition, family, God, and so on.

00:23:48.380 Now there is a revival of these points,

00:23:51.540 and the end of the road

00:23:53.720 is going to be a Christian Europe 0.99

00:23:56.080 that starts from Portugal

00:23:57.220 and ends up to Alaska,

00:24:00.660 obviously not including Alaska,

00:24:03.760 but until that point.

00:24:05.040 So this is the major change

00:24:06.460 that is taking place,

00:24:07.700 and it seems to me

00:24:09.020 that the American administration

00:24:11.000 is taking the point

00:24:12.340 and is actually destroying in this way

00:24:15.780 the sort of liberal,

00:24:17.980 how can I say,

00:24:19.260 the liberal fortress

00:24:20.980 that had New York at its center,

00:24:23.540 that had the sort of liberal American

00:24:26.300 in this magic center.

00:24:27.340 Well, this is not anymore the case.

00:24:29.260 America has changed,

00:24:30.980 and Europe has to follow very quickly,

00:24:34.420 otherwise we are going to go

00:24:37.880 to self-destruction.

00:24:42.240 Roberto, I'm very, very delighted

00:24:44.260 that you've come on to the show today.

00:24:46.880 Thank you.

00:24:48.060 And now that the administration

00:24:50.340 is leading the way on this point,

00:24:51.620 and I particularly, look,

00:24:53.200 this is one of the most important documents

00:24:55.440 I've seen come out

00:24:56.280 of either of the Trump administrations,

00:25:00.040 and what is so key about it

00:25:01.680 is even when talking about the decline

00:25:03.460 in the European Union,

00:25:05.480 this strategy here

00:25:08.160 is identifying the cultural aspects

00:25:11.100 as being more important

00:25:12.440 than the economic aspects,

00:25:14.220 which is absolutely spot on.

00:25:16.100 And this is going to give a great hope.

00:25:17.900 This is going to give a great hope, Roberto,

00:25:21.400 I think.

00:25:22.020 It's a cultural revolution,

00:25:23.460 a correction,

00:25:24.500 a cultural correction.

00:25:26.260 In the meantime, Roberto,

00:25:27.840 before we get to bring you back on the show,

00:25:30.280 where do people go in social media

00:25:32.760 to learn more about Forza Nuova

00:25:34.440 and the Alliance for Peace and Freedom

00:25:36.080 and keep up with your activities

00:25:39.120 on the Italian political scene,

00:25:41.160 which I can't compliment more highly enough?

00:25:43.060 Well, I have to say

00:25:45.840 that Mr. Zuckerberg and others

00:25:48.880 have sort of erased us

00:25:51.180 from the social community.

00:25:53.840 We haven't got,

00:25:54.720 we can't have any more,

00:25:55.820 this is part of the infringement

00:25:57.460 of our liberties.

00:25:58.820 We haven't got any more Facebook.

00:26:01.400 It's prohibited to us.

00:26:03.740 We have got very little

00:26:05.280 in terms of social,

00:26:07.860 we've got Telegram,

00:26:10.960 we've got Instagram,

00:26:12.240 we've got,

00:26:13.480 we've got for Fahrenheit,

00:26:16.280 we've got more presents

00:26:18.240 because it's not called Forza Nuova.

00:26:20.660 But the situation is basically,

00:26:22.820 it's what the address

00:26:24.100 you have been given before,

00:26:25.940 which is Fahrenheit,

00:26:28.160 which is our journal,

00:26:30.820 online journal,

00:26:32.400 which is continually,

00:26:33.500 continually following

00:26:35.400 what is happening

00:26:37.180 in America quite closely

00:26:39.900 and Telegram and Instagram

00:26:42.980 for what regards Forza Nuova.

00:26:46.060 That's Telegram Forza Nuova FN

00:26:48.820 and Roberto Fiore underscore FN.

00:26:51.400 I'm going to get those out

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00:26:53.960 Roberto,

00:26:54.320 thanks for coming on the show.

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00:32:14.180 Welcome back.

00:32:16.720 Well,

00:32:17.420 my guest for the second half

00:32:19.120 of the show is

00:32:19.780 Vadim Dirksen

00:32:20.940 who's the senior editor

00:32:22.020 of Jünger Freiheit,

00:32:24.160 a newspaper very much

00:32:25.440 in the AFD ambit.

00:32:28.960 And we've had Vadim

00:32:29.900 on the show before

00:32:30.740 and we wanted to talk to him.

00:32:33.140 We wanted to bring him

00:32:33.740 back on and talk to him

00:32:34.720 about these protests

00:32:36.680 that had broken out

00:32:39.720 in Germany

00:32:42.060 just a couple of days ago.

00:32:43.360 Before we do that, Vadim,

00:32:45.420 I'd like to ask you

00:32:47.000 for your take

00:32:47.760 on this strategic report

00:32:51.780 that came out

00:32:52.460 from the US administration

00:32:54.300 overnight

00:32:55.000 indicating that Europe

00:32:57.640 is 20 years away

00:33:01.180 from civilizational erasure.

00:33:03.900 This is obviously something

00:33:04.600 that the AFD have also been saying.

00:33:08.280 But give me your take on this.

00:33:09.820 Will the fact

00:33:11.040 that the administration

00:33:11.880 has pushed out this document

00:33:13.340 which is something

00:33:14.240 we desperately wanted

00:33:15.420 to see from them,

00:33:16.780 from the administration

00:33:17.600 on this side of the Atlantic.

00:33:20.140 The fact that they've taken

00:33:21.100 this theme

00:33:22.140 and pushed this out.

00:33:23.120 Do you think

00:33:23.420 is this going to help

00:33:24.720 what we're doing here

00:33:25.620 in continental Europe?

00:33:28.500 Absolutely.

00:33:29.120 I hope this is actually

00:33:30.660 a wake-up call

00:33:31.740 for the politicians

00:33:33.340 who are in charge

00:33:34.040 right now in Germany.

00:33:34.880 I hope it's going to help

00:33:38.860 the right-wing parties

00:33:41.140 in Europe in particular

00:33:42.740 to push the agenda

00:33:45.100 towards a more right

00:33:48.280 and conservative

00:33:49.200 political agenda

00:33:51.820 in Germany

00:33:52.660 and all the other countries

00:33:54.080 in Europe.

00:33:55.040 We see a massive decline

00:33:57.020 in birth rates

00:33:58.140 in the, let's say,

00:33:59.780 in the original population

00:34:03.100 in Germany.

00:34:03.580 We have a massive

00:34:05.120 migration crisis

00:34:06.080 still going on

00:34:07.000 which is basically

00:34:08.620 replacing the majority

00:34:11.000 population here in Germany.

00:34:13.720 And we need to stop that.

00:34:15.620 We need to get a right,

00:34:19.820 maybe a wake-up call

00:34:21.040 even from the U.S. president

00:34:22.420 here in Europe.

00:34:23.160 And it's very much,

00:34:26.520 obviously,

00:34:27.120 the president,

00:34:28.220 President Trump

00:34:28.740 is putting his name to this,

00:34:30.060 but it's very much,

00:34:31.200 I think,

00:34:32.680 a reiteration of the themes

00:34:34.220 that Vice President

00:34:35.680 J.D. Vance

00:34:36.500 issued

00:34:38.140 in the Munich

00:34:39.380 Security Conference

00:34:40.640 which really shocked,

00:34:42.080 I think,

00:34:42.580 the European Union

00:34:44.320 as an institution

00:34:45.320 that the administration,

00:34:47.520 the U.S. administration

00:34:48.360 was actually going to be

00:34:49.400 concentrating on this.

00:34:50.560 And this strategic document

00:34:54.360 has very much

00:34:55.260 institutionalized now

00:34:56.960 those concerns.

00:34:58.860 And I think,

00:34:59.380 you know,

00:34:59.660 I can't thank,

00:35:01.420 as someone who's been

00:35:02.380 pushing this

00:35:02.920 on this side

00:35:04.080 of the Atlantic,

00:35:05.160 I cannot thank

00:35:05.860 the administration

00:35:06.520 more than what they've done

00:35:09.940 putting out this document.

00:35:11.020 It is one of the most

00:35:11.840 important things

00:35:12.480 I've seen.

00:35:13.040 Basically,

00:35:14.840 I think that the old 1.00

00:35:15.620 politician elite

00:35:17.720 in Europe,

00:35:18.700 the old elite,

00:35:20.340 is not used

00:35:21.020 to these harsh words

00:35:22.200 which are now

00:35:24.620 taking place

00:35:26.240 from the U.S. administration.

00:35:28.340 As you mentioned,

00:35:29.120 also J.D. Vance

00:35:30.180 and so on.

00:35:30.980 They're not used

00:35:31.660 to these stark words

00:35:33.440 used against them.

00:35:35.240 And I hope

00:35:36.160 that will shake them

00:35:37.240 up

00:35:38.720 and move

00:35:40.880 to some changes

00:35:41.800 in the politics.

00:35:43.520 Well,

00:35:44.060 we see a decline

00:35:45.220 of the old parties

00:35:46.640 in the last polls.

00:35:50.180 Also in Germany,

00:35:51.760 AFD is building up

00:35:53.720 a bigger gap

00:35:54.980 between the second,

00:35:56.280 the ruling party

00:35:57.340 of the CDU,

00:35:58.320 of Merz.

00:35:58.720 Merz.

00:35:59.980 So the people

00:36:01.600 are fed up

00:36:02.380 with the empty words,

00:36:04.880 empty promises

00:36:05.900 they see here

00:36:07.380 constantly

00:36:08.260 and they act

00:36:09.320 like lies,

00:36:10.760 like lies,

00:36:11.800 not just empty promises,

00:36:13.500 but they lie

00:36:14.500 their people

00:36:15.660 into their face.

00:36:17.580 And this is something

00:36:18.620 what needs to end

00:36:20.380 because we have

00:36:21.340 a big issue.

00:36:23.120 Our industry

00:36:24.300 is going down.

00:36:26.500 We have

00:36:26.920 high energy prices.

00:36:28.320 We have a crisis

00:36:29.360 in the country

00:36:29.980 where the people

00:36:30.900 are very depressed

00:36:32.200 and we need

00:36:33.220 to change that.

00:36:36.460 I think one

00:36:37.720 of the consequences

00:36:38.580 of this

00:36:39.660 strategic review

00:36:40.920 is that it's

00:36:41.740 going to be

00:36:42.020 much more difficult

00:36:42.820 for the

00:36:43.860 German state

00:36:45.180 to suppress

00:36:45.880 the AFD

00:36:46.640 as it tried

00:36:47.600 to do

00:36:47.980 with the AFD's

00:36:49.200 youth wing.

00:36:50.600 And that's the point.

00:36:51.660 Let's use that

00:36:52.520 now as an opportunity

00:36:53.280 to move on to that.

00:36:56.260 So what happened

00:36:57.380 in Gießen

00:36:58.100 just a few days

00:37:00.160 ago was that

00:37:01.180 demonstrators

00:37:01.960 as the new

00:37:03.720 revived,

00:37:05.160 resurrected youth

00:37:05.980 wing of the

00:37:06.480 AFD was being

00:37:07.320 launched,

00:37:08.200 the left

00:37:08.860 had organized

00:37:09.640 these protests

00:37:10.820 which blocked

00:37:11.620 I think 16

00:37:12.660 points of entry,

00:37:13.560 16 streets

00:37:14.460 to the conference

00:37:16.540 venue

00:37:16.900 where they were

00:37:17.680 expecting some

00:37:18.420 50,000

00:37:19.660 AFD youth

00:37:20.980 to join.

00:37:21.520 by the way

00:37:23.120 by the way

00:37:23.580 6 blocking

00:37:24.440 shutting down

00:37:26.140 a city like

00:37:26.900 that

00:37:27.380 by blocking

00:37:28.780 the 16

00:37:29.380 main arteries

00:37:30.300 as far as

00:37:31.540 I'm concerned

00:37:31.980 that is

00:37:32.420 something

00:37:32.880 that

00:37:33.680 a loose

00:37:35.100 alliance

00:37:35.940 called resist

00:37:36.540 would not be

00:37:37.320 able to do

00:37:37.700 by itself.

00:37:38.580 I would

00:37:38.920 suggest

00:37:39.520 though I

00:37:41.980 don't have

00:37:42.300 hard evidence

00:37:42.920 for it

00:37:43.380 that the

00:37:43.860 German state

00:37:44.600 intelligence

00:37:45.120 services

00:37:46.180 were infiltrating

00:37:47.640 and assisting

00:37:48.700 in the shutdown.

00:37:49.580 Before you

00:37:50.060 take off

00:37:50.480 on that

00:37:50.760 point

00:37:51.080 let's just

00:37:51.680 look at

00:37:52.540 some of the

00:37:53.920 views

00:37:54.300 of what was

00:37:56.340 happening

00:37:56.540 and I'll

00:37:57.060 come back

00:37:57.360 and take

00:37:57.640 your reaction.

00:38:00.520 Thousands

00:38:01.120 of demonstrators

00:38:02.340 gathered in

00:38:03.260 the German

00:38:03.800 city of

00:38:04.400 Gießen

00:38:04.820 to protest

00:38:05.700 against the

00:38:06.280 launch of

00:38:06.780 a new

00:38:07.100 youth

00:38:07.460 organization

00:38:08.380 of the

00:38:08.840 far-right

00:38:09.340 Alternative

00:38:10.200 for Germany

00:38:10.860 party

00:38:11.280 also known

00:38:12.260 as the

00:38:12.680 AFD.

00:38:14.720 Groups of

00:38:15.620 protesters

00:38:16.200 blocked or

00:38:17.040 tried to

00:38:17.620 block roads

00:38:18.360 in and

00:38:18.900 around the

00:38:19.480 city

00:38:19.780 delaying

00:38:20.520 the arrival

00:38:21.140 of many

00:38:21.660 delegates

00:38:22.100 to the

00:38:22.480 convention

00:38:22.920 center.

00:38:23.920 As a result

00:38:24.520 the event

00:38:25.120 had to be

00:38:25.620 postponed

00:38:26.000 by a few

00:38:26.640 hours.

00:38:28.860 So tell

00:38:29.640 me Vadim

00:38:30.440 was this

00:38:32.160 something that

00:38:32.620 was loosely

00:38:33.160 organized by

00:38:34.260 an association

00:38:35.140 of the

00:38:36.360 left

00:38:36.660 political

00:38:37.120 groups

00:38:37.380 or do

00:38:37.940 you think

00:38:38.220 it was

00:38:38.560 more centrally

00:38:39.280 coordinated?

00:38:41.500 Let me

00:38:42.380 get you

00:38:44.120 the whole

00:38:44.980 picture of

00:38:45.500 that first.

00:38:45.920 the last

00:38:48.660 time we

00:38:49.000 had a

00:38:49.260 demonstration

00:38:49.620 of this

00:38:50.000 magnitude

00:38:50.320 was

00:38:50.640 perhaps

00:38:51.180 at the

00:38:51.740 party

00:38:52.000 conference

00:38:52.480 of the

00:38:52.800 AFD

00:38:53.160 in Stuttgart

00:38:53.880 10 years

00:38:54.300 ago.

00:38:55.920 And the

00:38:56.360 protests

00:38:56.780 actually have

00:38:58.120 declined in

00:38:58.980 the recent

00:38:59.380 years.

00:38:59.940 The peak

00:39:00.220 may be in

00:39:01.640 the protests

00:39:02.120 surrounding the

00:39:03.120 so-called

00:39:03.660 Potsdam secret

00:39:04.640 meeting just

00:39:05.700 under three

00:39:06.120 years ago.

00:39:07.280 But this

00:39:07.860 time we

00:39:08.360 witnessed a

00:39:09.200 perfectly

00:39:09.880 organized

00:39:10.460 protest

00:39:10.820 action.

00:39:11.640 there was

00:39:12.160 massive

00:39:13.000 mobilization.

00:39:14.200 Bus

00:39:14.340 troops were

00:39:14.780 paid from

00:39:15.560 all major

00:39:16.240 cities in

00:39:16.760 Germany.

00:39:17.580 Students

00:39:17.940 groups have

00:39:18.560 been calling

00:39:19.060 for people

00:39:19.600 to join in

00:39:20.280 WhatsApp groups

00:39:20.920 for weeks.

00:39:22.420 They

00:39:22.620 themselves

00:39:23.260 announced up

00:39:23.860 to 50,000

00:39:24.820 demonstrators.

00:39:26.520 In the end

00:39:27.060 there were only

00:39:27.640 25,000 but

00:39:28.840 they were all

00:39:29.660 even more

00:39:30.680 motivated to

00:39:31.820 prevent the

00:39:32.560 founding

00:39:33.520 Congress of

00:39:34.120 the AFD's

00:39:34.840 youth

00:39:35.380 organization.

00:39:37.800 On site,

00:39:38.840 the protests

00:39:39.400 was organized

00:39:40.740 in such a

00:39:41.400 way that

00:39:41.780 all the

00:39:42.240 routes,

00:39:42.960 as you

00:39:43.340 mentioned

00:39:43.600 before,

00:39:44.060 to the

00:39:44.320 hall were

00:39:44.700 blocked.

00:39:45.620 This was

00:39:46.040 done through

00:39:46.500 sit-in

00:39:46.960 blockades,

00:39:47.900 barricades

00:39:48.360 made of

00:39:48.980 tree trunks

00:39:49.760 or torn

00:39:50.980 out street

00:39:51.460 signs.

00:39:53.020 I was

00:39:53.800 there,

00:39:54.900 I was

00:39:55.260 witnessing

00:39:55.700 it,

00:39:56.020 how it

00:39:56.320 worked,

00:39:56.900 and I

00:39:57.120 was wondering

00:39:57.540 why even

00:39:58.360 these tree

00:39:59.380 trunks were

00:39:59.980 placed there

00:40:01.800 prior,

00:40:03.380 a few

00:40:03.820 days maybe,

00:40:04.560 a few

00:40:04.900 weeks.

00:40:05.300 We were

00:40:05.560 told they

00:40:06.000 were just

00:40:06.300 placed there

00:40:06.720 a few

00:40:06.960 weeks on

00:40:07.440 strategic

00:40:08.360 points.

00:40:09.400 of the

00:40:10.000 roads.

00:40:12.840 We as

00:40:13.660 journalists,

00:40:14.080 we were

00:40:14.320 well informed

00:40:14.960 about the

00:40:15.520 location of

00:40:16.240 the next

00:40:16.580 blockade

00:40:17.000 through the

00:40:17.620 Antifa

00:40:18.040 telegram

00:40:18.500 group,

00:40:18.840 so they

00:40:19.080 were

00:40:19.240 organized

00:40:19.720 in

00:40:19.920 telegram

00:40:20.280 groups,

00:40:21.400 and as

00:40:22.280 a result,

00:40:22.860 we arrived

00:40:24.360 even before

00:40:25.060 the police

00:40:25.600 to these

00:40:26.100 blocks.

00:40:27.700 This also

00:40:28.520 shows that

00:40:29.040 the police

00:40:29.540 were completely

00:40:30.800 overwhelmed

00:40:31.380 by the

00:40:32.100 protests,

00:40:32.700 although they

00:40:33.300 actually expected

00:40:34.280 more people

00:40:34.800 to come.

00:40:35.720 So one

00:40:36.940 question which

00:40:37.540 rises now

00:40:38.180 is,

00:40:38.860 was the

00:40:39.320 there not

00:40:40.700 enough

00:40:41.540 police,

00:40:42.760 or was

00:40:43.240 it maybe

00:40:43.700 planned

00:40:45.400 to give

00:40:46.760 it a

00:40:46.980 loose and

00:40:47.460 let the

00:40:48.820 people

00:40:49.180 protect it?

00:40:50.860 Vadim,

00:40:51.420 just very

00:40:51.760 quickly,

00:40:52.140 what do you

00:40:52.620 mean by

00:40:53.200 that they

00:40:53.700 expected

00:40:54.160 more people

00:40:54.680 to come?

00:40:55.200 You mean

00:40:55.600 they expected

00:40:56.180 more counter

00:40:56.840 protesters

00:40:57.520 to try to 0.55

00:40:59.060 shoot what 0.98

00:40:59.420 you're doing 0.72

00:40:59.840 down?

00:41:00.340 Yes.

00:41:00.480 Right.

00:41:01.380 Because the

00:41:02.420 protesters,

00:41:03.440 said they

00:41:04.120 said that

00:41:05.940 they expect

00:41:06.700 about 50,000

00:41:08.160 people to

00:41:08.680 arrive in

00:41:09.220 Gießen.

00:41:09.880 In the

00:41:10.240 end,

00:41:10.500 the police

00:41:10.840 counted

00:41:11.640 about 25,000.

00:41:14.060 We have

00:41:14.440 like the

00:41:16.600 protest

00:41:16.900 groups,

00:41:17.400 they can

00:41:19.240 be divided

00:41:19.780 into different

00:41:20.740 camps,

00:41:21.460 let's say.

00:41:21.920 the ordinary

00:41:23.920 left-wing

00:41:24.600 students or

00:41:25.760 some union

00:41:26.360 members or

00:41:27.480 groups such

00:41:28.040 as grandmas

00:41:29.260 against the

00:41:30.160 right.

00:41:32.240 And this

00:41:33.100 is the

00:41:33.700 so-called

00:41:34.600 middle-class

00:41:35.280 section.

00:41:36.360 They were

00:41:38.300 predominantly

00:41:39.040 white and

00:41:40.660 affluent

00:41:41.600 middle-class.

00:41:43.080 Then there

00:41:44.000 was this

00:41:44.440 hard,

00:41:45.020 violent

00:41:45.340 corps who

00:41:46.860 used

00:41:47.160 violence at

00:41:48.900 the slightest

00:41:49.380 protest against

00:41:50.560 it.

00:41:50.800 They were

00:41:52.160 mostly

00:41:52.460 completely

00:41:52.940 masked

00:41:53.360 with

00:41:53.840 back

00:41:55.560 lavabas

00:41:56.000 and

00:41:56.280 distinctive

00:41:56.980 colors like

00:41:57.780 purple or

00:41:58.340 black so 1.00

00:41:58.800 they could 0.76

00:41:59.220 quickly identify

00:42:00.460 each other.

00:42:01.800 And as

00:42:02.100 soon as

00:42:02.580 there was

00:42:02.860 some riots

00:42:03.520 going on

00:42:04.080 or they

00:42:04.640 identified

00:42:05.360 someone from

00:42:06.640 the AFD,

00:42:07.660 they just

00:42:08.080 surrounded

00:42:08.500 them, 0.96

00:42:10.280 beat them 1.00

00:42:10.840 up or

00:42:11.420 just pushed

00:42:12.000 them out

00:42:12.400 of the

00:42:12.760 group or

00:42:13.600 whatever.

00:42:16.140 I'm going

00:42:16.720 to come

00:42:17.040 back to you

00:42:17.380 in two

00:42:17.580 minutes.

00:42:19.060 I'm going

00:42:19.560 to come

00:42:19.780 back to you

00:42:20.100 in two

00:42:20.300 minutes,

00:42:20.480 Vadim and

00:42:21.100 ask you

00:42:21.780 about the

00:42:22.400 Bundestag

00:42:23.240 deputy

00:42:24.220 Janine

00:42:25.280 Vissler

00:42:26.460 from the

00:42:27.600 left saying

00:42:28.920 that the

00:42:29.180 AFD is

00:42:29.800 not a

00:42:30.140 normal party

00:42:30.860 and what

00:42:31.420 is intended

00:42:32.200 by that

00:42:32.740 kind of

00:42:33.120 criticism.

00:42:33.960 Before I

00:42:34.400 do that,

00:42:34.880 I mentioned

00:42:35.460 Birchgold in

00:42:36.180 the first

00:42:36.600 half of

00:42:37.540 the show.

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00:45:00.520 to

00:45:00.980 Vadim

00:45:01.520 Dirksen.

00:45:02.500 Vadim,

00:45:03.000 we've got

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00:45:05.460 show.

00:45:06.120 Just tell

00:45:06.700 me if you

00:45:07.220 wouldn't mind

00:45:07.820 about what

00:45:08.580 this left-wing

00:45:09.860 member of

00:45:10.600 parliament,

00:45:11.460 Janina

00:45:12.360 Vistler

00:45:13.220 said,

00:45:14.220 when she's

00:45:15.020 saying that

00:45:15.800 the AFD

00:45:16.400 is not a

00:45:17.000 normal party

00:45:17.840 and therefore

00:45:18.880 justifying the

00:45:20.820 suppression of

00:45:22.460 AFD youth

00:45:23.720 to be able to

00:45:24.860 get together

00:45:25.680 and have a

00:45:27.400 congress,

00:45:27.800 what is she

00:45:28.240 really signalling

00:45:29.100 by that?

00:45:29.860 Is it not the

00:45:30.520 case that she's

00:45:31.640 joining in with

00:45:32.480 certain calls

00:45:33.320 that German 0.70

00:45:34.240 intelligence and

00:45:35.120 the German

00:45:35.500 state and the

00:45:36.220 courts should

00:45:37.120 suppress the

00:45:38.620 AFD totally?

00:45:40.740 Is that not

00:45:41.400 the scope?

00:45:41.820 And is that

00:45:42.500 not fascist?

00:45:45.080 Absolutely.

00:45:46.200 Well, this is

00:45:47.700 the point.

00:45:48.380 Do you know

00:45:48.840 what the left

00:45:49.440 party is in

00:45:50.100 Germany?

00:45:50.660 The left

00:45:51.260 party, which

00:45:52.240 she's a member

00:45:52.800 of, it is

00:45:53.680 the successor

00:45:54.360 party of the

00:45:55.080 SED party,

00:45:56.240 which ruled

00:45:56.780 in the GDR.

00:45:58.160 These are

00:45:58.800 communists.

00:45:59.980 And this

00:46:00.300 party now

00:46:01.620 sits in the

00:46:02.360 parliament on

00:46:03.000 the far left

00:46:03.900 side, and

00:46:05.260 they are the

00:46:06.220 ones who

00:46:06.740 cooperate with

00:46:07.560 the CDU and

00:46:08.440 Mertz.

00:46:09.260 Like, today,

00:46:10.320 today they even

00:46:11.400 helped to get

00:46:12.520 passed a law

00:46:13.640 with the help

00:46:15.060 of the left

00:46:16.060 party, Mertz

00:46:17.400 made this

00:46:19.740 law pass.

00:46:21.580 And you

00:46:22.260 imagine just

00:46:23.680 how the

00:46:27.000 political compass

00:46:27.940 in the country

00:46:28.480 has shifted to

00:46:29.420 the left.

00:46:30.380 Mertz is more

00:46:30.980 willing to work

00:46:31.700 with the GDR

00:46:32.420 party than

00:46:33.600 with the

00:46:34.000 AFD, which

00:46:34.780 actually consists

00:46:36.520 of former

00:46:37.380 CDU members.

00:46:39.080 And of

00:46:39.460 course, for

00:46:40.080 this kind

00:46:40.500 of leftist

00:46:41.700 communist

00:46:42.820 party member,

00:46:45.480 the AFD

00:46:46.140 is not a

00:46:47.200 normal party.

00:46:48.200 We know

00:46:48.580 that.

00:46:50.020 And from

00:46:50.500 the history,

00:46:51.140 they are used

00:46:51.760 to put the

00:46:53.460 political opponents

00:46:54.640 into the

00:46:55.100 prison, even 0.98

00:46:56.820 to kill 1.00

00:46:57.320 them. 1.00

00:46:58.200 So, no

00:46:59.720 wonder she's

00:47:01.140 talking as

00:47:01.980 she's talking

00:47:02.560 right now.

00:47:03.100 This is

00:47:05.300 really why

00:47:05.820 at this

00:47:06.560 time, the

00:47:07.160 US national

00:47:07.860 security

00:47:08.460 strategy is

00:47:09.720 so important,

00:47:10.680 right?

00:47:11.200 Because Mertz 0.98

00:47:12.160 might be

00:47:12.900 trying to

00:47:13.760 work with

00:47:14.560 the German

00:47:15.020 state, with

00:47:15.580 the German

00:47:16.080 judiciary to

00:47:16.960 suppress the

00:47:18.200 AFD, which

00:47:18.720 is what they

00:47:19.540 were trying to

00:47:20.240 do, right?

00:47:21.300 Up until

00:47:21.860 recently, they

00:47:22.700 were trying to

00:47:23.380 suppress totally

00:47:24.860 one of the

00:47:25.860 largest political

00:47:26.600 parties in

00:47:27.380 Germany.

00:47:28.020 Do you think

00:47:28.740 now that this

00:47:29.320 national security

00:47:30.100 strategy indicates

00:47:31.520 to the German

00:47:32.340 state,

00:47:33.100 exactly, that

00:47:34.600 the US

00:47:35.400 administration is

00:47:36.180 watching what's

00:47:37.120 going on, and

00:47:38.160 dropping the

00:47:38.960 situation about

00:47:39.980 NATO, the

00:47:40.980 future of NATO

00:47:41.920 there, which

00:47:43.420 the strategy

00:47:44.000 does do, to

00:47:45.360 try to let

00:47:47.580 the German

00:47:48.100 state not go

00:47:49.240 too far in

00:47:51.240 these totalitarian

00:47:52.340 tendencies against

00:47:53.580 the AFD?

00:47:53.940 Absolutely.

00:47:55.160 You're right.

00:47:55.780 We have a

00:47:56.240 country in a

00:47:56.840 situation which

00:47:57.560 is dangerous

00:47:58.040 for the

00:47:58.760 allies at

00:47:59.780 this point, I

00:48:00.600 would say, on

00:48:01.640 many levels.

00:48:02.360 we have

00:48:03.540 security

00:48:04.240 problems as

00:48:05.240 a member of

00:48:07.400 the NATO, we

00:48:08.360 have not a

00:48:09.220 strong army

00:48:09.840 because we

00:48:10.660 have such a

00:48:12.380 war against

00:48:12.940 our military

00:48:15.680 inside of the

00:48:16.600 country.

00:48:16.980 Then we

00:48:17.800 have mass

00:48:19.540 impact on

00:48:22.380 visa.

00:48:23.380 We share our

00:48:24.380 German citizenship

00:48:26.880 or we give

00:48:27.980 it out to

00:48:28.540 migrants which 1.00

00:48:30.680 came into the

00:48:31.580 country maybe a

00:48:32.300 few years ago, and

00:48:33.600 we are throwing

00:48:34.760 away the

00:48:35.400 German

00:48:35.820 citizenship, which

00:48:37.840 is one of the

00:48:38.600 strongest in the

00:48:39.480 world.

00:48:39.820 If you have the

00:48:40.780 German citizenship,

00:48:41.600 you can travel in

00:48:43.060 one of the most

00:48:43.740 countries without

00:48:44.580 any visa.

00:48:45.500 So this is

00:48:46.800 also a security

00:48:47.920 issue for all

00:48:49.680 the partner

00:48:50.160 countries where

00:48:50.940 we can travel

00:48:52.160 visa-free, as

00:48:53.560 in also to the

00:48:54.460 United States.

00:48:55.620 So this is an

00:48:56.720 actual threat to

00:48:58.080 the international

00:48:58.920 community, which

00:48:59.760 is Germany part of

00:49:00.860 the Western

00:49:01.240 community.

00:49:02.460 And we have

00:49:03.280 to be thankful

00:49:05.940 to Trump and

00:49:06.800 the administration

00:49:07.400 that they are

00:49:08.140 pointing on

00:49:09.300 these issues

00:49:10.140 and bringing

00:49:11.440 them up.

00:49:11.900 I hope this

00:49:14.120 is going to

00:49:14.460 change as

00:49:15.800 quickly as

00:49:16.600 possible and

00:49:18.040 we have a

00:49:19.640 shift back to

00:49:21.500 the normal,

00:49:22.840 not to the

00:49:23.540 right, but to

00:49:24.060 the normal.

00:49:24.980 That's what the

00:49:25.620 people think is

00:49:26.740 normal should be

00:49:28.260 again the

00:49:29.520 policy of this

00:49:30.560 country.

00:49:31.820 Just in the

00:49:32.860 final two

00:49:33.780 minutes of the

00:49:34.440 show, could you

00:49:34.960 give me 60

00:49:35.660 seconds and just

00:49:36.500 explain very

00:49:37.180 quickly what the

00:49:38.540 issue was with

00:49:39.580 the AFD youth

00:49:41.000 wing?

00:49:41.500 why the

00:49:42.860 switch of

00:49:43.560 parties?

00:49:44.800 What that was

00:49:45.680 about?

00:49:48.180 Why they had to

00:49:49.760 reorganize the

00:49:51.400 youth?

00:49:52.400 The problem is

00:49:53.380 the youth was

00:49:54.700 organized as a

00:49:55.520 separate organization,

00:49:56.660 was not connected

00:49:57.960 to the party

00:49:59.540 itself.

00:50:00.200 So you could

00:50:00.900 become easily a

00:50:01.940 member of the

00:50:02.540 youth organization,

00:50:04.440 but not being a

00:50:05.760 youth member,

00:50:06.880 being a member

00:50:07.900 of the party.

00:50:08.720 That means the

00:50:09.600 party itself could

00:50:10.560 not control which

00:50:11.480 people, what kind

00:50:13.200 of people would

00:50:14.540 enter the youth

00:50:15.260 organization, but

00:50:16.700 still the youth

00:50:17.500 organization had

00:50:18.360 influence on the

00:50:19.180 party.

00:50:19.880 And this is

00:50:20.280 something messed

00:50:21.640 up.

00:50:22.360 So now what they

00:50:23.420 changed is that

00:50:24.560 every youth

00:50:25.580 member or the

00:50:27.320 member of the

00:50:28.020 youth organization

00:50:28.800 has to be

00:50:29.620 member of the

00:50:30.360 party.

00:50:31.300 And there's a

00:50:32.400 big control.

00:50:33.060 people, the

00:50:33.580 problem is our

00:50:34.440 rules regarding

00:50:36.860 the parties.

00:50:37.520 Not everyone

00:50:38.040 can enter.

00:50:39.740 It's easy to get

00:50:40.960 into the party, but

00:50:41.900 it's very hard to

00:50:43.140 get someone who's

00:50:44.360 extreme out of the

00:50:45.420 party by law.

00:50:46.780 So you have to be

00:50:48.000 very careful to see

00:50:49.240 what kind of people

00:50:50.100 you bring in in

00:50:51.660 order to make

00:50:53.140 sure that they don't

00:50:54.220 cause any problems.

00:50:55.200 if they're too

00:50:56.680 extremist and so

00:50:58.040 on, or maybe

00:50:59.120 even from the

00:51:00.300 government, let's

00:51:02.560 say, if there's

00:51:04.680 somebody, you

00:51:05.180 cannot get them

00:51:05.960 easily out.

00:51:06.760 That's the thing.

00:51:07.400 I'm glad you

00:51:09.400 outlined it because

00:51:09.920 I've read different

00:51:10.820 explanations in the

00:51:12.300 press and I just

00:51:12.820 wanted to hear it

00:51:13.380 from you what the

00:51:14.020 issue was.

00:51:15.000 Vadim Dirksen,

00:51:15.920 thanks as always for

00:51:16.880 coming on the show.

00:51:17.740 Senior editor of

00:51:18.740 Jünger Freiheit.

00:51:20.200 Where can people go

00:51:21.420 on the internet to

00:51:22.460 keep up with the

00:51:23.500 superb work that

00:51:24.920 you're publishing

00:51:25.500 out there?

00:51:28.200 Jüngerfreiheit.de.

00:51:30.140 This is our

00:51:30.580 website and you

00:51:31.500 find me on

00:51:32.480 socials like

00:51:33.220 x at

00:51:33.800 realdirksen.

00:51:35.660 Yeah, that's it.

00:51:37.400 That's perfect.

00:51:39.080 And the internet

00:51:40.340 is obviously, you

00:51:41.220 can follow those

00:51:42.180 articles, click on

00:51:43.520 the translation

00:51:44.200 button on your

00:51:45.480 browser and just

00:51:46.400 follow everything.

00:51:47.500 Very few Western

00:51:49.280 or English-speaking

00:51:50.620 journals are going

00:51:51.300 to explain to you

00:51:51.940 exactly how things

00:51:52.660 are.

00:51:53.200 Vadim Dirksen,

00:51:53.960 very grateful as

00:51:54.760 always that you

00:51:55.360 came on to the

00:51:56.360 show to explain

00:51:57.280 what these protests

00:51:58.180 were all about.

00:51:58.760 We'll catch up again

00:51:59.760 with you soon.

00:52:01.880 Folks, that's it.

00:52:02.800 That's the end of

00:52:03.260 the show.

00:52:03.700 All we have time

00:52:04.460 for today.

00:52:05.400 We'll be back.

00:52:06.240 I'll be back on

00:52:06.980 Wednesday.

00:52:07.400 God willing with

00:52:07.980 our Christian

00:52:08.880 roundup back on

00:52:09.660 Friday for the

00:52:10.340 in-depth interview.

00:52:11.620 That leads me to

00:52:13.160 thank Will and

00:52:14.360 his superb team

00:52:15.740 as always in

00:52:16.920 Denver, Real

00:52:17.720 America's Voice,

00:52:18.720 and of course

00:52:19.180 Vittorio Francki

00:52:20.920 who's helping

00:52:21.880 behind the scenes

00:52:23.020 put this show

00:52:23.920 together.

00:52:24.960 Thanks to you

00:52:25.640 both very much

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Bannon's War Room - December 05, 2025

WarRoom Battleground EP 905： White House： EU faces “civilisational erasure” within 20 years

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