WarRoom Battleground EP 905ļ¼ White Houseļ¼ EU faces ācivilisational erasureā within 20 years
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Summary
A special Friday night edition of the War Room, featuring Forza Nuova leader Roberto Fiore and the leader of the Fratelli d'Italia, Giorgia Malmella. In this episode, we discuss the impact of the Trump administration's new National Security Strategy on the EU, immigration and the demographic crisis in Europe.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Hanwell here at the helm at Steve Bannon's War Room.
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Well, today is really where we're going to live up to our motto of signal, not noise.
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Something very important happened with the administration overnight,
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and we're now going to have a special, a Friday night special breaking this down.
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That is, the Trump administration has published a US national security strategy
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in which it suggests that the EU, continental Europe,
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is facing within the next 20 years, civilizational erasure.
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because sometimes it's easy to get distracted by talking about,
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oh, look at Trump, he's worrying, he's paying attention to the gilding in the Oval Office
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and all the rest of it, building a ballroom and all the rest of it.
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And these things are certainly taking place and taking energy.
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This, what has happened today, this will fundamentally,
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if the administration shows the discipline to follow through
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on what's outlined in this document, this will change the debate fundamentally,
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but also, especially, perhaps, here in continental Europe,
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which this report outlines is a key strategic partner to the United States.
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That's why President Trump has published this strategic review.
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Therefore, to break this down, my first guest today,
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We worked very closely together in promoting the values of Christian civilisation
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Roberto is a former member of the European Parliament, as I was saying,
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leader of Forza Nuova, which is, and I'll say this for our American audience,
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it's positioned to the right of the Fratelli d'Italia,
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the Brothers of Italy, which is the party of the Prime Minister,
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Giorgia Malone, of which we have a lot to say frequently on this show.
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So I think that's a reasonable description of Forza Nuova.
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Now, I know that this report is breaking waves in Europe
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Tell me, what was your reaction to this document?
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And then I'm going to break down a little bit what's actually in it
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and why it will be of interest to the Warwim audience.
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Well, I think that this document is particularly important.
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It's very topical because it touches the two essential points.
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One is immigration and the other one is the demographic collapse.
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These things, you can put them together, but you can also isolate them as issues.
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And the demographic issue is something that has not started today.
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In 1997, when our movement started, we issued eight points.
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We already saw then the development of a sort of culture, of philosophy,
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but especially of a policy that was really targeting family
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and it shouldn't be anymore the central point of society.
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And as a part of that, to have more children was seen as a disgrace.
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There was no premium or help to the families to have more children,
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help to the mothers to, for instance, if they wanted to stay at home
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No, it was forbidden to talk about a salary to the mothers.
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Now the demographic issue has exploded and it's becoming something that everyone talks about it.
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We can just say, okay, we said it before, but we think that we should do something now.
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And what the administration has done yesterday, last night, is of fundamental importance
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because in Italy we're having 350,000 immigrants regular coming from Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Africa,
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No one understands what's the logic of it, but 350,000 every year.
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And the third issue is the diminishing of the freedom of people to speak about things.
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We have two laws, Mancino laws and Sherba laws,
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that are just there to hit people who say something that the establishment doesn't like.
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And these two laws are alive and well with the Maloney government.
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The people are going towards the traditional ideas that also the administration has pushed yesterday,
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All these things are widely accepted by the normal people in Italy,
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Yeah, because as I say, we've known one another nearly 20 years,
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and you've been pushing these themes before they became mainstream, as it were.
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the attempts to silence you when you were in the European Parliament
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your contribution to Italy's demography is well known.
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I think you have like a whole tribe of children.
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So that's your single-handed contribution to reversing the demographic tide.
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So you've been pushing these issues before they were popular.
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and I'm very grateful that you've come on the show today,
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is it was easy for the European establishment in Brussels
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even from supposedly right-wing groupings like the Fratelli d'Italia,
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you've just had your full mandate that you've been pushing for decades,
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pretty much word for word endorsed by the Trump administration.
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How important is this going to be to you making these arguments here in Italy and with your allied,
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because you're also president of the Alliance for Peace and Freedom,
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which is the European networking of allied movements across continental Europe.
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How important do you think this is going to be?
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Because this is what the administration has published with this national security strategy
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since Trump descended the golden escalator in 2015,
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which is a serious concerted sort of extension of help for what we're trying to do here in Europe
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and a massive sign of credibility and authority for the arguments that we've been making, right?
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What is coming from America, it's something that was fairly unexpected.
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We followed what's happening with the MAGA movement and so on.
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But a so stark pronunciation, a so stark statement, to talk about the erasure of civilization,
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to talk about an imminent collapse of civilization, is something very, very important.
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Because first things, the administration can say,
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Now it's for the politician to say, well, this is rubbish,
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or to say, well, this is true, we've got to do something.
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Now I am the first one that can say easily and with some ideas to surround the sort of the entire opinion
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The first thing I would say is especially connected to the role of women.
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If the women have children, it's important that states help them to take care of children.
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We cannot have women having one child or child and a half then to go to work
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and then to have a nanny or a nurse to come and to help the children.
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We need to have proper wages for the women in order to give strength to the family.
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The other thing I would do, we have got a lot of Italians who are, for instance, in Venezuela,
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who cannot stand Maduro, who want to come back.
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Well, we should tell them, come back here, because if the gap between birth and death is, like today,
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370,000 births and 770,000 deaths, look, it's a disaster.
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The thing we can do immediate is to welcome the Italians.
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We've got 100 million Italians in the world to welcome the Italian backs and not to have a flux of people coming from Pakistan
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or other Pakistan or Bangladesh, countries that have got nothing to do with Italy, to come in 100,000 every year.
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And this is something that has been told very clearly by the Trump administration today.
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When we come back after that, I am going to ask you for your take on what we were discussing this morning,
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As you were saying at the beginning, Roberta, you were saying about J.D. Vance's speech to the Munich Security Conference.
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Those themes are taken front and centre in this 33-page document.
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And it really does illustrate the degree to which the European Union, as an institution,
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is the key threat on Europeans' civil liberties, such as free speech and what have you.
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So I just want to quote, Roberto, something that is cited in this U.S. national security strategy,
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which is something these strategies often in an administration will typically produce one every mandate.
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And typically for Donald Trump, it's saying what a lot of people are thinking,
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You've had the courage to say this for many years.
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And now you've found that your sort of voice crying out in the wilderness has now been amplified somewhat
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by having these very thoughts picked up by the most economically, military, culturally powerful nation on the planet.
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Tell me about this point here, about the European Union and other transnational bodies that undermine political liberty and sovereignty.
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Because this is obviously a theme that you have some personal experience in combating.
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Vice President Vance said something very important about the attack to freedoms in the United Kingdom,
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the fact that anti-abortionist activists were taken into prison for having prayed outside,
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for having silently prayed outside abortion clinics.
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Okay, this is something that obviously hit the imagination of many people.
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And the two issues that are particularly relevant for the establishment that is trying to erase freedom
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In Italy, it has been particularly strong, the attack on the freedom to speak about immigration.
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Because to say something about the flow of immigrants,
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to say something about the fact that the nature of the Italian people is changing,
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to say the fact that, for instance, in certain areas there is an arrogant group of people
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who actually make their own laws and push the Italian way from crucial areas near the stations
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or doing things like that, arrogant and violent,
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you risk to have a case, to go to prison or to be sentenced.
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Don't forget that in Italy you have a system, basically you have an entire generation of magistrates
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or prosecutors that come from the extreme left,
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and they are particularly concentrating in reducing the freedom of normal people,
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and especially of nationalists and patriots who actually believe that everyone should say what he thinks,
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and the soul of the people, the freedom of the people in speaking the truth
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or what they think is the truth, is essential to respect the freedom.
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So, Van's speech in Munich and the declaration today of the administration
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are extremely relevant for us to fight this sort of Orwellian establishment
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Roberto, we have about five minutes left of this,
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America encourages its political allies in Europe to promote this revival of spirit
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and the growing influence of patriotic European parties
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because whilst there is definitely a patriotic sort of revival taking place,
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what is also taking place on the back of that is a lot of performative theatrics
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from centre-right politicians who aren't even centre-right,
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And I would obviously urge the Trump administration,
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as it rolls through in following through on this agenda,
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to be extremely cautious when it's talking about European allies,
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because not everyone who schleps over to the White House
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and that's the relationship with Russia and the war in Ukraine.
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is probably the only political party on the right
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Would you just sort of, to our largely American audience, Roberto,
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which you've maintained right from the beginning,
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that undermines tradition, family, God, and so on.