Bannon's War Room - April 24, 2026


WarRoom Battleground EP 995: Problem Solved! Germany Reduces % Of Crimes Committed By Foreigners By ā€œLegalisingā€ Light Drug Use


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00:00:24.520 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.900 Mega Media.
00:00:28.820 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.740 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:00:48.040 friday 24th of april anno domini 2026 good evening harnwell here at the helm on steve
00:01:03.060 bannon's war room joined us by our special guest to start off the show vadim dirksen
00:01:08.060 the senior editor at younger freiheit in germany um which is i think we can fair to say afd
00:01:15.440 adjacent um let's start off there was something on social media that many folks will have seen
00:01:21.360 had millions and millions of views across various media illustrating precisely the the consequences
00:01:28.500 of the illegal third world invasion taking across taking place across europe right now there you can
00:01:34.380 see it on the screen each one of those dots is 100 people folks and you can actually see this it's a
00:01:41.680 swarm isn't it this is what an invasion looks like it's why it's called an invasion and that's
00:01:47.500 the ongoing crisis now Vadim has joined us this evening to discuss the uh the new statistics that
00:01:53.640 have come out now um and I'm going to cite Reuters here one of the three global press agencies on
00:02:01.060 this I'm not quoting the AFD's domestic think tank I'm not sort of um gonna
00:02:08.920 go to one of our various populist nationalist iterations to um to tell me their research i'm
00:02:19.480 going to go to reuters one of the most sedate establishment and news organizations there is
00:02:25.640 and this is what they're saying they're saying the number of immigrants entering the european
00:02:30.860 union last year has climbed to a record high of 64.2 million last year 64.2 million and that is up
00:02:41.520 21.2.1 million from 2024 you might be interested to know that those figures themselves compared to
00:02:54.040 40 million invaders in 2010, 15 years ago.
00:03:00.140 And that's the European Union's own official statistics agency,
00:03:05.760 Eurostat, and the UN Refugee Agency, Data.
00:03:09.560 Those are official statistics.
00:03:12.360 And I stress that these are official statistics
00:03:15.080 because they are so hair-raising.
00:03:18.460 If I had said this is Younger Freiheit's research
00:03:21.580 and they've published it,
00:03:23.120 You say, oh, Han, well, it can't possibly be that bad.
00:03:25.840 You're making it up and exaggerating again.
00:03:27.620 These are official statistics on behalf of the people that are overseeing 0.91
00:03:31.880 and facilitating this third world illegal invasion. 0.87
00:03:36.500 If I didn't correct my mathematics here, 0.93
00:03:39.100 we've gone from 40 million in 2010 to 64.2 million in 2025.
00:03:45.620 By my reckoning, that's an over a 50% increase in 15 years.
00:03:51.800 And I tell you that that illustrates to me the fact that our sociopathic overlords in the European Union, headed up by Ursula von der Leyen and company, they're not backing down, are they?
00:04:07.500 They're not saying, oh, look, Angela Merkel let in a million Syrians, and that took the AFD from 3% to 25%. 0.68
00:04:17.340 We're better back off now because we're creating the very electoral phenomenon we're desperately trying to oppose and destroy. 0.93
00:04:26.800 They're not backing off on that.
00:04:28.700 They're doubling down.
00:04:30.200 yeah you know they they if one car is heading into one wrong direction what they are doing is 0.70
00:04:39.500 just slowing it down so they they bring down the numbers of each year when the of illegal immigrants
00:04:46.400 i just looked it up last year they said all illegal immigrants dropped by 50 compared to
00:04:52.340 the previous year, but there's still about 200,000 new immigrants in net, which came to Germany last
00:05:01.660 year. This is a big city, just what moved to Germany again, but nobody's noticing it anymore.
00:05:08.780 So the numbers maybe they're going down, but they're just slowing it down, the process which
00:05:14.560 they started, and they will continue on going to proceed this way until they lose power, I guess.
00:05:22.340 We got just fresh numbers also on criminal statistics of the last year of 2025.
00:05:30.160 The police is releasing them.
00:05:32.740 These are just raw numbers.
00:05:34.500 You can look it up.
00:05:35.660 You can analyze them.
00:05:37.640 And the funny part was the big headline in all mainstream media was the criminal statistics is going down.
00:05:44.920 and you know the first question would be and and ben i think we would think uh hold on this is
00:05:53.300 wrong i mean we know exactly how it is actually right we know the truth um but how does it work
00:05:59.860 and that's the the funny part is they brought these numbers down by just legalizing weed and
00:06:07.140 this made the criminal statistics go down but in reality all the all the numbers like like
00:06:15.000 murder and and other high crimes they're rising and rising in germany still and and there's no
00:06:23.360 sites in that these numbers are going to be going down yeah well let's look at that so firstly you 0.89
00:06:32.440 suggest that the european union is boasting that the number of um immigrants coming into the european
00:06:39.940 union is coming down i i'd push back on that i think they might be talking about asylum seekers
00:06:47.060 or refugees but it's overwhelming the actual numbers of if you if you if you include if you
00:06:52.900 include um legalized immigrants along with illegal immigrants that figure that figure is going up and
00:07:00.840 this is the headline figure that i was quoting earlier that's up 50 over the last 50 years that
00:07:06.880 that figure is going up um on the half on the part let's come and look at the the figures that
00:07:12.300 you were talking about now and this is the um in terms of criminal numbers the crime numbers
00:07:16.440 you're talking about the proportion of crime committed in germany attributable yes to the 0.97
00:07:23.660 foreign born right and you're saying that the german statistics and that's phenomenally high
00:07:28.360 anyway and you're saying that um i mean i i think that the most recent figures i saw in germany like
00:07:35.160 like like um that an invader an illegal invader is 20 times more likely to commit violent or
00:07:41.680 sexual crime in germany than a german i have the numbers and they're saying tell you yeah tell me
00:07:47.160 tell me some example for for example for for rape um the rape is committed by almost 40 percent
00:07:55.320 of foreigners in Germany, all rape cases, but they make only 40%. 40% of all rapes in Germany are
00:08:06.280 40% of all rapes in Germany are committed by 15% of the population.
00:08:13.860 no 40 yeah basically yes that's that's the correct uh say yeah um and still uh this doesn't count
00:08:27.280 like they count in germans who have a german passport but they can be already syrians who
00:08:33.920 got the german passport three years ago maybe so yeah the actual the actual numbers of sexual
00:08:42.840 crimes sexual and violent crimes in germany committed by let's say the foreign born it's
00:08:48.840 going to be far higher than um than germ than actual real germans in a population of 100 000 0.68
00:08:58.280 foreigners there are um about uh let's say well on on male foreigners there are 30 800 crimes 0.89
00:09:08.740 if they are foreigners with some compared to a german passport citizen this is less than a half 0.99
00:09:18.500 6 000 people who commit crime so every time you meet a foreigner the chance to get sexually abused
00:09:28.400 by this person is twice as high um these are raw numbers yeah and you're saying that the number of
00:09:38.240 that the proportion of crimes in germany committed by the foreign born is coming down
00:09:43.920 largely because the german authorities um have taken out of that statistic um sort of drug use
00:09:52.540 life drug use um which they're no longer counting a serious crime yes so they've taken that out of
00:09:58.260 the statistics and they said oh look look how how the figures are coming down it's getting better
00:10:03.960 yes it's getting better exactly this is manipulating numbers exactly and we see a
00:10:12.060 dramatic increase in violent crimes and sexual abuse crimes and so on and these are the tricks
00:10:19.340 and the numbers they do and and this is this is something you know this i don't know why
00:10:26.960 nobody sees that but this puts lots of distrust or let's say people start not trusting the
00:10:36.100 government more and more and we see that in the increase of number of in the polls for the AFD
00:10:41.200 there are coming up some two major elections now in the east part of Germany in Saxony
00:10:48.220 where AFD might reach even the total win, like over 50% in the parliament.
00:11:00.220 This is something breaking.
00:11:06.160 And we see that the CDU, like the Christian party,
00:11:12.080 is squeezed in between the AFD and the left-wing parties.
00:11:18.220 And they are locked in.
00:11:20.560 They don't know what to do with that because of the policy not to work with the AFD.
00:11:26.980 So we are kind of in a locked in situations where the situation doesn't get better because of the so-called Brandmauer, the firewall against the AFD.
00:11:41.120 So that's a good thing, isn't it? 0.54
00:11:44.500 If Germans are starting, if these statistics are becoming so unbelievable, people are ceasing to believe what the government is telling them. 1.00
00:11:52.520 That's a good thing, isn't it? Because that means that they're going to awaken out of their sense of slumber and start taking over with both hands a sense of their own agency and their own destiny. 1.00
00:12:04.940 Vadim, I'd like to find another statistic.
00:12:08.260 Okay, go ahead.
00:12:09.920 No, go on. Go on. Go ahead.
00:12:11.440 Okay. One funny part is the leftists, they then say, okay, we have a problem with men.
00:12:19.920 This is a men's case problem. It's generally men.
00:12:23.340 So the feminists, they blame the men in general. 0.90
00:12:28.480 But the funny thing is, if you take a look at the statistics in foreign women and men 0.92
00:12:35.820 and compare the german women and men the foreign women are more criminal than the german men 0.88
00:12:44.220 so this is across the board yes it's across the board um it's um crime is uh is gender blind 0.77
00:12:55.980 as a sociologist would say in this regard but another statistic here that that i would come
00:13:01.580 back to is and again these are these this is from reuters i'm quoting here um it says that
00:13:08.880 germany has the the largest share of foreign-born invaders amongst all of the eu member states
00:13:19.800 and you have you're hosting 18 million invaders um and it says here 72 percent of them are of
00:13:31.300 working age well that's you know that's basically 30 percent a little less than 30 percent that
00:13:36.960 aren't of working age they're either too young they're either too young or too old to work um
00:13:44.440 and i think doesn't that blow up the lie somewhat used by and you mentioned the christian
00:13:50.500 democratic union the cdu angela merkel's party the party that's back in power right now you
00:13:57.080 You mentioned that they are getting squeezed between the socialists on the left and the AFD on the right.
00:14:06.620 But this explodes the CDU establishment lie that Germany needs these invaders to do the jobs that Germans don't want to do. 0.57
00:14:17.160 Because if 30 percent of them aren't even capable of working right now, that's going to be a net draw on the German taxpayer, right? 0.98
00:14:25.000 and this it's not only 30 percent it depends on which group of people you look at the syrians 0.85
00:14:31.880 for example which came to germany after 2015 uh about 50 of them are still on welfare and the
00:14:40.380 other 50 work so the leftists they say okay this is a success over 50 of them are already in work
00:14:48.440 But come on, guys.
00:14:50.220 I mean, if after 10 or more years being in Germany and you still don't have a job, there's something wrong.
00:14:57.900 So 50% of work, this is not a success story. 0.99
00:15:01.460 And our welfare system is over half of it is full only on foreign people, asylum seekers and so on. 0.76
00:15:11.420 And so the system, the welfare system, which was once created for situations where Germans are not able to work or something, 0.99
00:15:21.360 this is now getting more and more used by foreign people, illegal immigrants who come to our country 1.00
00:15:30.540 and just find it very suitable and very nice system to live here without working 0.99
00:15:38.820 compared to the status or the level of, let's say, of your living standards
00:15:49.380 compared to the country where they are from.
00:15:51.240 So this is another lie the CDU is telling the people,
00:16:00.040 especially now even Merz, who talks now to the Indian president
00:16:05.240 when he went there last year.
00:16:08.460 He said, we need Indian workers, and they have a special program
00:16:13.660 for skilled workers from India.
00:16:15.780 I mean, we see them here.
00:16:18.500 They deliver food.
00:16:19.800 This is the skilled work of Indian people here.
00:16:23.260 You know that from the UK as well, I guess. 0.80
00:16:25.840 I don't see them programming stuff
00:16:29.880 all the programmers there are in the US 0.99
00:16:31.440 or they're programming from India directly
00:16:34.300 and now Claude and all the other AI
00:16:37.020 is just wiping out the whole industry
00:16:39.460 of IT industry
00:16:43.280 so there's always an excuse for migration
00:16:47.220 and the most part
00:16:49.920 what sucks and they are not 0.93
00:16:52.240 they never 0.95
00:16:54.400 turned this around
00:16:57.620 and sent the people back,
00:16:59.760 although they promised it.
00:17:02.240 Well, we're going to talk about Saxony Wright
00:17:04.740 in just two minutes' time,
00:17:06.540 and I'm going to give a trigger warning
00:17:07.960 when we come back after this short ad reading.
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00:18:58.900 folks not joking here be careful if you have kids um sitting around watching television you probably
00:19:08.460 want to shuffle them out of the of the room for this it's a trigger warning what we're going to
00:19:15.160 um to show you now perhaps yeah and Vadim has already done some censorship on these photos
00:19:21.900 are so graphic we can't even show the majority of these things um on RAV today it's that bad
00:19:31.800 And so what are we talking about? In Saxony, in a municipality there, the headmaster, in violation of the law, invited in two non-binary activists to speak to his ninth graders.
00:19:50.580 And that's a 49th grade is 14 years of age. I say this is against the law because in Saxony, it is the law that the goal content and form of family and sex education are to be communicated to the parents in good time to be discussed with them.
00:20:14.500 And that did not take place.
00:20:16.360 Vadim, you've written, you've published,
00:20:19.180 Jünger Freiheit has published an alarming article on this.
00:20:25.500 Why don't you, and I know there's a lot of people upset about this
00:20:28.860 in Germany right now.
00:20:30.100 Tell us briefly what happened.
00:20:34.000 What happened?
00:20:35.520 There are so-called project weeks in the school.
00:20:39.260 We have a crisis of teachers.
00:20:42.720 we don't have enough teachers in our school so the the government is funding different
00:20:48.900 ngos with project education programs about different topics where people
00:20:57.800 these can be educated people but in this case these were left-wing activists come to school
00:21:08.100 and have a project of five days, maybe, or short or longer term in a school.
00:21:14.520 And teachers are happy because they can fill in the gaps in their schedule for the students.
00:21:22.680 So there are many NGOs.
00:21:25.880 They are sponsored also by the government quite often.
00:21:30.340 And these two activists, they call themselves non-binary.
00:21:35.380 They are probably female.
00:21:36.680 they came into the class you must imagine this is a school on the border to poland where the afd
00:21:44.920 has almost 50 and they came from the leftist berlin and tried to teach the students what 0.96
00:21:54.120 democracy looks like after they take over they told them that afd sucks they need some education 1.00
00:22:02.680 and they started to show them gay porn, pure gay porn. 1.00
00:22:08.260 We saw these pictures. 1.00
00:22:10.260 The students were in pure shock.
00:22:13.980 They took pictures with their phones of that,
00:22:17.300 sent it to their parents.
00:22:20.340 They were in shock.
00:22:22.040 These students were, these two activists
00:22:25.960 were then kicked out of school.
00:22:28.440 The project was canceled.
00:22:29.700 but you might think okay this might be just a little mistake well somebody didn't just
00:22:37.080 look it up what they what kind of material they have and maybe they are just some crazy guys or
00:22:44.500 some crazy people who went through the system and and could present this stuff no we checked it up
00:22:54.240 it looks like this this NGO behind that which is translated as courage mood in Germany
00:23:02.480 they are funded by the government and their program is to educate sexually educate students
00:23:10.880 and this is a system we now we dig deeper into that and saw even more material for even younger
00:23:20.720 ages uh they used then some drawings which look like a funny uh sketches for for children the
00:23:28.940 playbook but this is horrible what they show there they show sexual uh uh practice which uh
00:23:37.760 you you never see them anywhere except maybe in some crazy dark rooms i'm gonna i'm gonna read
00:23:45.300 from your article here from younger
00:23:47.260 article you say
00:23:48.660 amongst the
00:23:50.780 contents
00:23:53.460 distributed on the
00:23:55.360 floor from the backpacks of these two 0.68
00:23:57.300 non-binary activists
00:23:58.960 were various and I quote were various
00:24:01.420 pornographic photos
00:24:02.800 showing men having sex 0.99
00:24:05.220 including oral intercourse 0.99
00:24:07.340 photos of a 1.00
00:24:09.400 bare hairy male 0.99
00:24:11.420 buttocks and that of a 0.99
00:24:13.380 penis also fell 0.99
00:24:15.060 into the hands of 14 to 15 year olds um and i've seen some of these photos and i've passed them on
00:24:23.380 to denver um i don't think we're going to be able to and here's the thing right you even before
00:24:30.240 sending us these photos you pixelated them right yeah you censored the the the most graphic elements
00:24:37.420 of these photos even with the censorship that you put on these photos before sending them to us
00:24:43.140 i don't think we're going to be able to put these photos on the screen today we're not going to be
00:24:48.460 able to scroll that normally when we're discussing an article we'd have it scrolling on the screen
00:24:53.040 i don't think we're going to be able to do able to do that as we're talking
00:24:56.660 once more point we lost our whatsapp uh channel just because of the articles we posted about that
00:25:05.780 we posted an article and they blocked us because there was these keywords porn children and stuff
00:25:11.800 so they just deleted our account so here's my wow wow so here's my point okay you're um you
00:25:21.340 push this stuff out on a private whatsapp group and whatsapp have blocked you um we can't show
00:25:28.580 these photos on real america's voice because they're too graphic even in their censored form
00:25:35.580 the originals however are what the education authorities are showing to um to 14 year old
00:25:43.400 kids that i think illustrates the point something too graphic for television and too graphic for
00:25:49.720 whatsapp is what the education authorities are conspiring behind the backs of parents
00:25:56.620 to morally corrupt and destroy the the equilibrium of of 14 year olds of 14 year old adolescents
00:26:05.340 and I think that's the point here
00:26:06.900 it's too graphic for television
00:26:08.620 too graphic for whatsapp
00:26:10.240 but it's fine for kids
00:26:11.960 there's no way that that can make sense
00:26:14.740 very quickly
00:26:16.440 thanks for coming on to the show
00:26:18.520 we'll get you back
00:26:19.460 very quickly to continue
00:26:22.500 to show us
00:26:24.300 the articles you're pushing out on
00:26:25.940 Jünger Freiheit
00:26:26.720 where do people go to follow you
00:26:29.700 if not on whatsapp right now
00:26:31.640 they can go on
00:26:34.600 X on at Junge Freiheit.
00:26:38.440 X, and I think you've got another channel as well, don't you?
00:26:42.640 Yep.
00:26:43.300 X Atriel Dirksen.
00:26:45.080 Yes.
00:26:46.280 Okay.
00:26:46.840 Vadim Dirksen, you're always a star on The War Women,
00:26:49.980 and The War Impulse, you love you.
00:26:51.180 Thank you very much indeed.
00:26:53.120 We'll be back with you shortly in a few weeks.
00:26:56.140 Folks, don't go away.
00:26:57.180 We'll be back with you in two minutes after this short commercial break.
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00:31:50.020 second half of this show we're going to be just talking to philip gaspar an old friend of the
00:31:54.160 war room he's been on many times before he's at a conference called trad fest in croatia philip
00:32:00.480 welcome back on to the war room thanks for having me back and what a coincidence i'm here in the
00:32:06.580 capital of croatia zagreb actually at the at the trgban jalačić at the main square where the croats
00:32:13.860 fought and for the liberation in the 90s and very happy that also can be again vannon's war room and
00:32:20.240 I'm very happy that this TREAT festival is taking place because I will explain it.
00:32:24.580 It's, in my opinion, not only important for Croats, but especially also for Catholics and for this region.
00:32:33.720 So I'm the first time attending it.
00:32:36.340 It took place the first time eight years ago, and it's organized with the Vigile organization together with Odo Juris from Croatia.
00:32:45.620 Catholic organizations as you know
00:32:48.160 and I'm not sure if the audience is aware
00:32:51.740 but we think Croats are devoted Catholics
00:32:57.800 just as Polish people
00:32:59.940 so it's very important for us
00:33:02.820 and the topics this time will not only be
00:33:05.720 fight against let's say Vogueism
00:33:09.640 and the so-called Liberate Agenda
00:33:13.640 what is going on a little bit too much influence from brussels but also special and that's why i'm
00:33:19.840 very happy because the last time when i was at your show we talked about the 30 years of the
00:33:24.240 date and agreement in bosnia and the role of the croats and tomorrow the the conference will have
00:33:31.620 some special empathize on on the third entity or what's going on in bosnia well we're gonna have
00:33:40.000 in a couple of weeks i think we're gonna get uh vincent bartolo the the the the organizer the
00:33:46.340 founder of vigilade um on the show um but the um i get i gather vigilade is probably one of
00:33:55.920 one of the largest conservative and catholic organizations if not the largest in croatia
00:34:03.660 what is the what is the feeling in croatia right now and describe that something uh to our
00:34:09.340 largely American audience
00:34:11.600 so that they get an idea
00:34:13.120 of the atmosphere right now
00:34:15.440 in Croatia and around
00:34:17.440 the conference itself?
00:34:22.220 So the conference itself
00:34:24.520 I was very, very happy
00:34:27.540 that I just saw
00:34:28.300 Cardinal Pulic
00:34:30.520 who was the Cardinal
00:34:33.720 in Sarajevo
00:34:34.920 during the war and afterwards
00:34:36.360 plays a very important role
00:34:38.320 is a voice for us croats and the feeling here around the conference around the conference
00:34:43.920 especially in croatia because um a few minutes ago when i when we started to talk i was mentioning
00:34:48.880 this um which is the main square in croatia so every time the croatian football team uh wins or
00:34:56.000 in any one of the sports we're good in you see that the people are gathering in this main square
00:35:00.960 so and any anything important politically is happening you can see those pictures and pictures
00:35:07.200 of this square so around the conference and for me for someone just a quick reminder i'm my parents
00:35:12.160 are croats from bosnia but i'm uh was born and raised in in germany so every time i i come to
00:35:18.960 come to zagreb i i i think i see the slightly difference um i see them more open that someone
00:35:25.680 that lives on a daily basis here so for example tomorrow and saturday what was mentioned on the
00:35:30.080 the conference um you have every saturday you have people men and praying the rosary quietly
00:35:38.000 not louder here on the main on the main square and it became a big politicum i'm telling this
00:35:43.820 because it was mentioned at the conference uh that out of a sudden the last two or three years
00:35:50.220 you have people croats not people from outside croats yeah left leftists we know the special
00:35:55.520 those special people that are protesting against it and i'm talking here about um a land that is
00:36:02.040 um that um catholicism plays an important role so around around around around this conference
00:36:09.780 inside i just i just came out the the first panel is still they're still going on very enthusiastic
00:36:16.100 so not sad not not depressive as i see it sometimes maybe sometimes in the west so it's
00:36:23.600 fully enthusiastic people are happy and willing willing to fight for let's say for western
00:36:31.300 civilization for catholic civilization for for their own for their own people so to say it again
00:36:37.220 it's very very important and i really really am grateful that they're organizing this
00:36:41.580 now tell me something about the current political situation in croatia you've got the governing
00:36:48.140 party the croatian democratic um using right now i gather that it's relying quite heavily on the
00:36:55.080 nationalist the major nationalist representation the homeland movement tell me a bit if you would
00:37:01.300 mind about the homeland movement and integrate it within the the say like for example how is it
00:37:06.960 compared to a a political party that that the that are warren posse will be very familiar with
00:37:13.740 which will be the AFD.
00:37:15.200 How do they compare?
00:37:16.680 Is it fair to say that Homeland is like Croatia's version of the AFD?
00:37:23.480 Is that fair? 0.95
00:37:25.460 I mean, I'd like to become one day the Croatian version of the AFD
00:37:29.080 in terms of percentage and support by the people.
00:37:35.020 But I know what you're referring to, so you can say that
00:37:37.300 HREZ, HROVATSKA, DEMOKRATSKA, ZEITNICA, you can say CDU, and the DEMOKRATSKA, some kind of the AFD,
00:37:50.480 but they have the advantage, they're already forming, they're already part of the government here in Croatia,
00:37:55.800 they don't have this fire war as we have in Germany.
00:37:59.080 But yeah, they're, in my eyes, in my eyes, let's say right-wing, conservatives,
00:38:05.780 conservatives um what's something that creation creation it's not the only conservative party
00:38:12.640 this is a topic especially at the side that creation right wing is a little bit split up
00:38:17.560 into several parties but um yeah the hardy zee or the ruling party in my my personal opinion is
00:38:24.380 too much um a copy of i can say the cdu or something the um what we have too much in my
00:38:33.480 and western but the ruling party yeah the ruling the ruling party and probably will win the next
00:38:39.060 upcoming elections again okay stand by philip be back with you in just two minutes after i give a
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00:40:16.600 switch today back then to philip gaspar philip um tell me more about the homeland movement because
00:40:25.040 i want our audience the war in posse to be more familiar with it um and to recognize it when it's
00:40:31.560 spoken in conversation you may have noticed that there is a maneuver now that victor orban
00:40:38.520 is no longer um or soon to be no longer in power um in hungary once the the new prime minister
00:40:46.120 Peter Magyar is installed, and Ursula von der Leyen has wasted no time whatsoever, literally hours,
00:40:56.220 saying that it's the Commission's intention to take control, a greater control of foreign policy
00:41:04.260 by moving from unanimity on foreign policy in the Council of Ministers over to qualified
00:41:10.480 majority vote in QMV. What is the position of Croatia in this? Croatia is one of the smaller
00:41:16.900 EU countries. We presently have the possibility to wield the veto, which of course you will lose
00:41:24.160 and then will be dominated by the larger countries like France and Germany. Tell me,
00:41:30.840 Homeland, which is pretty big on preserving sovereignty, how is this going down in Croatia?
00:41:39.020 And might we expect Homeland as part of the government, part of the governing coalition, to use that leverage to try to preserve the integrity of Croatia's ability to have a stronger voice in the determination of EU foreign policy?
00:41:57.460 it's a very very good question and um and also something special i'm i'm i think that most
00:42:04.760 croats that i talk to aren't even aware of first of all first of what you said and the
00:42:10.060 the rights for the veto and other so but to question the stance as far as i know for
00:42:16.200 domovinsky domovinsky pocket that's the homeland movement um they are for sovereignty and and they
00:42:24.100 of course want to keep this but this will be a crucial crucial um crucial point if they in my
00:42:31.060 opinion if they don't if they if they don't preserve this or they're weak or they weak their
00:42:37.880 position or they give in to the ruling party just to form to become uh to form the government then
00:42:44.060 in my opinion i think i think the croats won't vote for them anymore my my personal opinion but
00:42:49.300 your question how the stance is for in this case um sovereignty and not to give up this position
00:42:55.320 which i say it again it's very very important to not do so especially after we um as you said
00:43:02.380 someone else was installed in in hungary and and we've lost um victor orban um philip i think
00:43:11.440 probably after poland arguably tied with poland croatia is the european union's most catholic
00:43:18.760 country uh there's a very strong presence of the of the very strong presence of the catholic
00:43:24.620 tradition in croatia how are croatians falling down very patriotic to have um to have gotten
00:43:33.640 their national independence um a couple of decades ago um but tell me how are croatians
00:43:40.720 handling the social media warfare
00:43:46.180 between President Trump and Pope Leo?
00:43:55.900 Okay, how are they dealing with it?
00:43:58.920 It's not that understandable, I think.
00:44:02.020 I think for every Catholic, 0.98
00:44:04.920 when you're not deep, 0.62
00:44:06.220 when you're not dive deeper into it
00:44:09.300 and maybe, and you're not aware of President Trump,
00:44:12.800 let's say a very special approach to any geopolitical issue,
00:44:18.160 then of course the first thing that Croats and Catholics think
00:44:23.140 is you're basically attacking the Pope,
00:44:26.860 which is, let's say like this, they're not very happy about it.
00:44:33.040 This is the polite version of it.
00:44:35.280 So they don't understand it.
00:44:36.820 and actually my my first my first reaction to is also thought okay what's what's going on there
00:44:43.460 what doesn't mean i'm i'm happy that we may rest in peace i'm happy that that it's uh if you would
00:44:49.200 ask me i'd like to have back the the bavarian or german pope i wasn't happy with the argentinian
00:44:54.640 one so i am still giving it's not from my opinion too early to to have a to have an opinion on the
00:45:01.200 new pope that we have but um croats catholics the first how can he how can he how dares he to do
00:45:07.400 something like this so wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't a great it wasn't it wasn't a smart well
00:45:13.380 let me put it let me put it like this let me put it like this um and it's a point that i that i
00:45:19.400 make constantly on the word it's impossible to fight a figure um on the political front whilst
00:45:27.860 giving them moral authority on the spiritual side at the same time absolutely impossible
00:45:34.480 and that's why i absolutely support a thousand percent and delighted and proud of donald trump
00:45:43.800 and jd vance pushing back against the vatican's pro-invasion agenda um exactly they didn't if
00:45:54.220 they didn't the vatican would have a free reign and it does put catholics in totally life of
00:45:59.380 course in in a difficult position are they going to defend the pope and the vatican or are they
00:46:05.620 going to defend um i'm totally on your side i'm totally on your side but your question was how
00:46:11.080 the how the average or the average croissant and then actually i was thinking about my mother that
00:46:15.860 doesn't even know how to how to use social media that only sees the news and things what's going
00:46:20.340 on how can he how can he attack the pope afterwards afterwards i think it's a it's a very smart and
00:46:26.160 when i'm happy about it let's say maybe i wouldn't say good and bad cop let's say president trump did
00:46:31.040 the attack then of course everyone was upset how dare he and then we then we have um jd vance
00:46:36.240 jd vance let's say a little bit like a good cop and also devote devote catholic um so i'm i'm there
00:46:44.560 with you but the question was the the um the normal in the first sense wasn't wasn't happy
00:46:50.800 about it but i'm totally with you because i'm here in croatia i'm happy that the that the catholic
00:46:56.400 catholic church in croatia not the croatian catholic church isn't isn't as i wouldn't say
00:47:03.140 vogue but um yeah let's say vogue as in some parts of some parts of some parts of germany
00:47:09.620 so that people still um you you can't you can't do things like they try to do in germany
00:47:16.200 like saying um gay marriages and whatever this this refugee welcome stuff and so in this point
00:47:22.640 of view i'm i'm still happy that the croats have a have a normal let's say normal stance um
00:47:27.940 regards the regards the catholic church and because of this they still have it i'm i'm
00:47:33.560 I'm happy that this, let's put it as, I wouldn't say a text, but what Donald Trump is doing, that the people here are still, still haven't fallen for what happened in Germany and other parts.
00:47:47.560 Well, look, it's, I know some Catholics are finding it, you know, that they're finding it awkward, awkward, and they don't like having to choose between the president and the pope.
00:47:59.760 They're going to have to. And that's just that's that we've said on the war since day one, since the Pope Leo emerged on the loja that Leo is worse than Francis on a number of metrics.
00:48:14.640 And he is worse than Francis. The Vatican at the moment is using its spiritual authority to promote a globalist invasion agenda.
00:48:23.340 And it's doubling down on that, and it's not toning down.
00:48:29.240 Therefore, it's absolutely essential for people,
00:48:33.440 and that's why we talk to people across the European Union
00:48:37.460 every Friday when we do this show,
00:48:39.480 that we build a network and alliance and support one another
00:48:44.280 when someone pushes back.
00:48:46.620 You mentioned earlier between the president and the vice president,
00:48:50.300 a good cop, bad cop thing.
00:48:51.740 from my perspective all i want to i don't want to see good good cop bad cop i want to see bad
00:48:56.420 cop bad cop and that all the time pushing back on on the vatic on this what what i in the closing
00:49:04.200 minute or two of the show um what i want to get from you um is some kind of understanding
00:49:11.500 that homeland movement the homeland movement which we will we will call the croatius version
00:49:18.520 of the afd um it needs to be prepared um in a way that georgia maloney has totally failed
00:49:28.260 to do in italy to be catholic and to resist the pope on the on the political agenda at the same
00:49:35.400 time no georgia maloney came out and criticized donald trump and defended the pope and i think
00:49:40.480 destroyed her credibility uh on that front croatia needs to be able to croatia needs to hold the line
00:49:47.940 on this tell me just give me your final reflections on your optimism of whether homeland um is going
00:49:55.060 to be able to do that in croatia um let's let's maybe close like this i mean i can't i can't talk
00:50:01.300 for can't talk for the homeland movement and think i hope they will do it but as you said um the role
00:50:07.060 of a catholic and i think exactly that's what you what you are talking about is not it's not to
00:50:10.840 defend the pope because the pope of course he makes mistakes to defend the defend defend the
00:50:16.860 faith, the Catholicism, especially because I'm here at the main square, that's what the
00:50:21.840 Croats were fighting for.
00:50:23.060 For example, my parents and other Croats from Bosnia-Herzegovina that are fighting for the
00:50:27.600 third entity, it's not what younger people can't understand.
00:50:32.780 They were suppressed because they wanted to express the Catholic faith, like making the
00:50:39.660 cross, go Sundays to church, or tomorrow, Saturday, pray publicly the rosary, which
00:50:45.320 is not harming anyone i think praying praying praying is good for us all so so that's what i
00:50:52.580 said um what i wanted to say what you also it's good we have to fight for catholicism
00:50:57.380 and i hope the home and move will do it
00:51:00.320 i hear some music we might have been losing you for a quick moment there i don't know if the if
00:51:11.420 the signal's going to hold up no i just heard some music that's why i asked okay i think about
00:51:17.260 before before you go we're very grateful that you've taken time out for the conference to come
00:51:22.220 and brief us about what's going on there the largest catholic catholic organization vigil
00:51:27.740 holding its annual conference in uh in uh croatia where do people go on social media to keep up with
00:51:35.040 your analysis i know you're very active on social media gaspar slash philip
00:51:41.760 that's perfect we've got that on the screen there that's gaspar underscore philip
00:51:51.840 um i'll read that myself i think we're just losing philip at the very end folks steve will
00:52:00.580 be back in the chair 10 a.m tomorrow i'll be back uh on wednesday my thanks to will
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