Based Camp - Another Female Killer; Another Struggle to Punish Her： WHY？

00:00:00.180 Hello, Malcolm. I'm very excited to be speaking with you today because recently a woman was executed in Tennessee.

00:00:08.480 She is the first woman in the state to be executed in over 200 years and the first person in Tennessee who has been executed in the modern era for a crime committed at age 18.

00:00:20.480 So this only happened after her defenders went all the way to the Supreme Court to try to halt this process.

00:00:27.440 and you know to be someone so singular to be getting the death penalty as a woman is

00:00:31.940 you know you've done something wrong we'll get into it you guys are gonna love this she survived

00:00:37.540 after two attempts it appears they didn't hit her veins because medical staff are not allowed to do

00:00:44.080 this so if somebody was out enough medical training who was working on it they had failed

00:00:49.000 in the same way with another execution recently in the same area this doesn't mean she gets out

00:00:56.580 of her execution but you guys know how this works but meanwhile lindsey clancy's lawyer is now trying

00:01:04.240 to claim that there's insufficient evidence that she even killed her children despite she said she

00:01:10.000 didn't everybody well and all the evidence the dna evidence as well um it's kind of unhinged

00:01:16.300 and i'm like what's going on here why are people trying to stop the execution of a woman who's done

00:01:21.840 utterly monstrous things? Why are you trying to claim that a woman who is admitted to murdering

00:01:27.100 her own children, that there's no evidence of it? What are you talking about? As a society,

00:01:32.000 I feel like we're systematically and openly flubbing justice, just messing it up. And it

00:01:38.080 has me trying to work out how we should actually address crime and punishment, not only because

00:01:42.720 people keep trying to undo punishments slated for women who have committed horrific crimes,

00:01:47.960 meant to, obviously, but I'm focusing on the prominent cases right now. But because we're

00:01:52.460 entering a period of insane disruption, so it's an important thing for us to be talking about now

00:01:57.640 because we may be in a position somewhat in the near future to actually rethink justice systems.

00:02:03.160 So conversations that get started now could result in some kind of change. We should be

00:02:09.560 discussing this. And I do also have this low-grade, deep fear that women lie at the heart of a 1.00

00:02:17.780 larger problem which is one criminals not being caught and two dangerous people not being dealt

00:02:23.720 with effectively and there's also this deeper more scared part of me that after you did your episode

00:02:29.900 on women killing children that women are just getting away with a ton of crimes primarily

00:02:36.400 because the people that women kill are people in their family and probably children and they're 0.99

00:02:43.540 just like, I don't know what happened. Like, you know, they're able much more easily than men 0.96

00:02:49.240 killing strangers to explain it away as an accident, if you know what I mean. And I looked

00:02:55.120 at this one FBI data study covering 1976 to 1987 that found 60% of women's homicide victims were

00:03:03.420 a spouse, intimate partner, acquaintance, or family member, while 80% of men's victims were

00:03:09.520 non-intimate acquaintances strangers or under undetermined relationship kind of people were

00:03:15.160 like it's not clear if they knew each other or not so the vast majority of people men are killing

00:03:19.520 kind of don't really know them well the vast majority of women of people that women are caught

00:03:24.940 killing emphasis on the caught part people they know extremely well and what made me disturbed

00:03:33.000 is this study excluded victims under age 15 so it's not a measure of child killings i know why

00:03:39.660 which women do disproportionately yes yes and so i'm like hold on also why are you like specifically

00:03:44.780 like we're not looking in this like places where you know the numbers would be the the biggest i

00:03:50.220 know and it makes me very very very uncomfortable and so okay well well the study excluded victims

00:03:58.300 under 15, it's not a measure of child killings, but young children specifically for looking at

00:04:04.680 them, there's this 2023 Department of Justice report that estimates that 76.2% of homicide

00:04:10.520 victims age 11 or younger were killed by an other family member. But then this study also doesn't

00:04:18.880 tell us who that other family member is. They just categorized as family member. And so I feel like

00:04:25.840 there's this systematic covering up of the fact that no this is women because i don't i don't know

00:04:33.260 why they're doing it but anyway this is just like you don't know why anthropologists are trying to

00:04:38.460 hide how horrible women are you don't know i could i could give you a guess well these are

00:04:43.880 criminologists as well why why these fields are overwhelmingly female and woke so you think that 1.00

00:04:51.660 They're just trying to hide this all. 1.00

00:04:53.600 Of course.

00:04:54.600 Look at the Lindsay Kansy trial. 1.00

00:04:56.160 These women who attempted to get her off for this

00:04:58.860 were so incredibly proud of what they had done 0.51

00:05:01.800 going on all of these shows with absolute intrunity,

00:05:06.660 trying to dox other jurors.

00:05:08.160 You know, they go on Oprah and they expected no one in the crowd 0.99

00:05:11.240 to be like, what were you thinking, you psychopath? 0.96

00:05:13.660 I know, they were so smug. 0.96

00:05:14.820 And I don't know if you saw the juror who held out

00:05:18.680 recently came out and made a video

00:05:21.420 and started it off with exactly the right thing to be like look i'm not just talking for myself

00:05:28.020 or i wasn't just representing my own views i we need to talk about the three as he put it angels

00:05:34.280 uh who were victimized here why was nobody talking about who was a catholic by the way good on him

00:05:41.420 and he did he did mention his catholic faith as well and what a what a guy like hero of the year

00:05:46.340 in my opinion i i really am well okay and also like there's a lot of other heroes we talk about

00:05:50.820 them frequently but he's absolutely up there for someone who stands by his values and i really

00:05:55.060 really appreciate that um but yeah it i guess you're right and let's let's i guess let's start

00:06:00.460 then with the what's going on with lindsey's clancy's lawyer because it is i think it's a one

00:06:06.040 element of this this problem it's so weird to me it's like he thinks he's arguing on the internet

00:06:12.180 and maybe he is maybe that's what the court is these days it could be because when you look at

00:06:16.480 the women who are on the jury they kind of were in that place they'd already made their own 1.00

00:06:20.440 conclusions there. In the original trial, to be clear, at the defense's position, it was effectively 0.92

00:06:25.840 she caused the deaths, but psychosis meant she was not criminally responsible. That was their key

00:06:31.820 legal argument. But now her lawyer, Kevin Reddington, is arguing that prosecutors did not

00:06:38.500 present legally sufficient evidence that Lindsay Clancy killed her three children. And just as of

00:06:45.400 recording so yesterday he he sought a required finding of not guilty a ruling that the trial

00:06:52.120 evidence was insufficient to permit rational journey to juror sorry a rational jury to convict

00:06:57.700 he said where is the evidence that she did this and where is the admission where where does she

00:07:04.740 say that she did this didn't she describe how she did it and the timeline in detail like at the

00:07:09.660 hospital i believed so uh he but he attacked the investigation and the physical evidence including

00:07:14.600 dna and fingerprint work and argued that statements attributed to clancy attributed to clancy

00:07:20.880 attributed made it up someone said this and people said that lindsey clancy said it after she awoke

00:07:27.680 in a hospital were not proof of a confession he argues that she had been told what happened

00:07:33.600 and that said she could not remember it he also continued to argue that the prosecutors had failed

00:07:39.040 to disprove her lack of criminal responsibility defense so it's he's basically parroting

00:07:45.840 lindsey clancy's online support mob the argument that lindsey before clancy had not done it

00:07:53.120 was to pretend that she i mean i think this is a terrible move on his part because

00:07:59.140 it's it's now you have to convince i can if i'm going to a jury right yeah and i'm trying to be

00:08:06.080 like look at this mother look at how sad she must be like nobody does this out of the blue blah blah

00:08:10.600 blah blah blah clearly she was completely mentally out of her mind at that moment that's something i

00:08:15.300 can sell that is harder to sell when you're then lying about not remembering doing it yeah i think

00:08:21.440 he needs he would just need he needs to try with the original somewhat plausible argument with a

00:08:27.100 different jury though yeah goodness it's going to be difficult to find a jury um well i guess he's

00:08:32.660 actually in luck after this you know finding a jury that's all about her and all about that i'm

00:08:38.960 gonna get famous for getting off the killer you know that i mean look but like it's what's really

00:08:44.500 disturbing to me is i feel like there's a bit of a gaslighting echo chamber perhaps the same one

00:08:50.260 that caused all these researchers to be like la la la i'm not gonna look exactly where women are

00:08:54.920 murdering people and not talk about it and i feel like that's some similar dynamic some similar

00:09:00.760 dark magic is happening here because he's seeing the online argument being made and now he's going

00:09:08.800 forward and making it and like sort of trying to commit it to reality um and he he's using the

00:09:15.000 exact arguments like cnn quoted one tiktok user saying i do not believe that lindsey clancy

00:09:20.340 committed these crimes i fully believe that patrick convinced her that she did that was the

00:09:25.320 big theory like they were they were pulling from one of the most famous arguments being made right

00:09:29.820 now and it's it's disturbing plus his criticism of the investigation into the murders parrots

00:09:37.140 everything that was online it's like he's now he is he has accepted the narrative that people want

00:09:42.300 and he's attempting to legally argue it into existence also a side note i don't know if

00:09:46.900 you're aware of this but people are not using the word clancying about fathers that they perceive

00:09:51.440 to not be helping out enough did you know this what yeah so like you might say he is clancying

00:09:58.120 about this this happened recently for example a man was was recently filmed like at a sports game

00:10:05.480 sitting down as his wife with a toddler in a front carrier brought like food to their seats

00:10:10.700 and people freaked out online commenting like like how dare she be forced to like carry a

00:10:16.720 toddler and get food from them at the sports stadium um and that happened to us when we were

00:10:21.400 at a grocery store recently and you were getting milk yeah she could have said to you he is

00:10:26.680 clancying when i put a gallon of milk in our shopping cart because god forbid these spaghetti

00:10:31.640 arms lift a bottle of milk minuscule pin weight to move you know she was a lindsey clancy supporter 1.00

00:10:40.740 to just she came across as a lindsey clancy supporter i can't even remember what she said

00:10:45.620 she's like like good job helping out or something like that like um some karen like remark whatever

00:10:52.060 look these arms need to work out do you see this where are they i can't it's like i am i am so glad 1.00

00:10:58.420 that women like her are divorced or miserable because you know she doesn't have a partner 0.98

00:11:04.820 or stake in the future anyway that that is one element of this right so this is one thing that 0.86

00:11:10.120 is weighing on me as i also contemplate the future that could be in the future that we are obligated

00:11:14.920 to make as people who want to inherit the future right we have to build a better justice system

00:11:19.020 this is what our justice system is doing now and now i want to tell you about the crimes of krista

00:11:24.260 pike who is the woman who as a recording she just got executed at 10 a.m this morning um this it but

00:11:31.260 you know if you're watching this recently she was executed uh she is she i think she was in her 50s

00:11:38.060 she was born in 1976 and then convicted january 12 1995 for the torture murder of 19 year old

00:11:46.220 colleen slemmer in knoxville tennessee um she has been on death row for 30 years which is another 0.98

00:11:52.920 issue that i have with the justice system yeah just kill them i know i know uh firing squad so 0.97

00:11:59.160 efficient per court records pike told officers that she was jealous of another girl at this 1.00

00:12:07.420 like work program that she was in um because she believed that that girl was interested 0.78

00:12:12.760 in her current boyfriend the day before she killed this young woman she told a classmate 0.98

00:12:19.580 that named kim iolio or yolio that she intended to kill her because she quote had just felt mean

00:12:27.400 that day end quote okay this is the type of person this is women yeah i well this is why

00:12:33.480 women are so dangerous because they're not not mean that day i well yeah i mean at least this 0.96

00:12:38.600 this young woman. She later claimed that she only meant to scare or fight her, and then it got out 0.86

00:12:44.620 of control. But the jury rejected this and found premeditation for the murder. So on the evening

00:12:49.700 of January 12th, Pike, this young woman, and then one lookout friend, her boyfriend, and the victim

00:12:58.240 signed out of the dorm. And Pike lured this young woman with her boyfriend with the story of making

00:13:04.460 piece because apparently they had some beef and smoking marijuana and first maybe going to a

00:13:11.040 blockbuster like this is the alleged premise of this all but she brought a box cutter and a

00:13:16.060 miniature meat cleaver that she had borrowed and they walked into a wooded area behind an abandoned

00:13:22.680 steam plant on the university of tennessee i'm turning off the sound so you can let me know when

00:13:27.440 i can listen again because i don't want to she's not continue continue okay i'm gonna can you hear

00:13:33.660 me no okay i'm waiting on you to finish the story he's gonna have to edit i'm not gonna listen you

00:13:40.820 finish the story i do this for you all the time i don't want to listen to this okay fine court

00:13:45.480 records uh and pikes sorry court records pikes recorded confession and the autopsy describe an

00:13:52.740 attack lasting about 30 minutes to an hour so what happened is first pike accused this young woman

00:13:59.180 of pursuing her boyfriend and then need her in the head threw her down and kicked her repeatedly 0.98

00:14:03.880 including in the face and the side and then her upper clothing was removed so she couldn't easily 0.97

00:14:09.920 run she was left in her bra and then when she tried to run her the boyfriend caught her and 0.80

00:14:15.760 threw her back down and then pike and her boyfriend held her until she stopped struggling and then 0.98

00:14:20.740 they dragged her to another spot where then pike cut her stomach and her back with a box cutter and 0.98

00:14:27.060 the meat cleaver and then she used her own hairband to gag her to to stifle the screams then a 0.53

00:14:34.440 pentagram was carved into her chest some people also said this happened to her forehead but i

00:14:39.700 think her forehead was so far gone by the time they got to her that you couldn't even maybe see

00:14:44.340 it on an autopsy she later testified sorry the boyfriend later testified under oath that he had 0.72

00:14:50.700 carved the chest pentagram so this isn't uh this is not pike this is not the the woman we're talking

00:14:55.460 about here it's her boyfriend and accomplice he was into satanic imagery she said she wasn't so

00:15:00.500 that's a him thing i'm not going to get into it but anyway she left briefly to check that no one

00:15:06.100 was nearby and then when she came back the boyfriend or sorry the the victim was still

00:15:10.120 talking and begging so she decided to cut her throat repeatedly uh she later told a classmate 0.98

00:15:15.580 that she cut the throat six times because she continued to talk and then she just kept yelling 0.94

00:15:21.020 at her to shut up. She later said that while this woman was barely conscious, she asked Colleen,

00:15:28.640 do you know who's doing this to you? She tried to run again. I don't know how after having her

00:15:32.920 throat slit so many times. But then Pike, again, this aggressor, threw and smashed a large piece

00:15:40.180 of asphalt into her head. When it broke, she threw smaller pieces as well. And the boyfriend also

00:15:46.080 struck her in the head with a rock um at least per pike's statement and then pike this monster 0.95

00:15:53.020 of a person plucked a fragment of the skull from the wound and put it in her jacket as a souvenir 0.90

00:15:58.360 so the medical examiner who was found her i mean observed her examined her the next day

00:16:05.000 testified that the death was from blunt force injuries to the head uh with a minimum of four

00:16:10.280 blows, and she had extensive skull fractures. Asphalt particles were in her skull. The body

00:16:17.240 also had slashing wounds to her face, her back, her arms, her abdomen, and her throat, including

00:16:21.440 a roughly six-inch gaping neck wound, plus lots of defensive wounds and bruising on her knees.

00:16:28.020 And Pike said she, quote, wouldn't die, was breathing blood, and her body jerked, and they 0.57

00:16:34.420 dragged her towards the bushes and left. So they didn't even wait to make sure she was fully dead

00:16:39.340 before leaving they just i guess got bored of her and then they go back to their dorm they sign back 0.82

00:16:44.780 in and then pike goes to a friend's room the same friend that she was saying oh i just i feel like 0.63

00:16:49.960 i'm just feeling mean today she showed her a piece of the skull and described cutting slimmer's 0.69

00:16:56.260 throat six times beating her using the meat cleaver on her back and the box cutter on her throat

00:17:01.220 showing throwing asphalt at her head and carving pentagrams and she later she she said that slimmer

00:17:07.760 begged them to stop and she didn't stop because this victim kept talking and this friend who 0.84

00:17:13.440 heard all this said that pike was dancing in a circle smiling and singing la la la while telling 0.89

00:17:18.880 it and then other students also said that she showed off the bone and she was arrested within 0.85

00:17:24.840 36 hours and confessed to the police soon after the arrest like there's very little how did she

00:17:29.080 not think she's gonna be caught i heard enough of this to be like you did a murder and then showed

00:17:35.380 it off she appeared to have absolutely no concern for consequences foresight yeah it was just like 1.00

00:17:43.320 i don't like this woman i am going to torture and kill her um that was just her thing or i think it 1.00

00:17:49.480 was just i'm gonna beat her up first and then it was like you know what this is so fun she got 1.00

00:17:52.720 carried away but guess what so she goes to prison she gets a death sentence she able to calm down 0.99

00:17:58.560 while she's waiting slowly in prison to die i mean they actually because some states have death

00:18:03.820 sentences, they put you in jail differently. She was in a state where if you're on death row,

00:18:09.300 you are isolated. So she spent most of her time completely isolated in this prison.

00:18:14.200 And then in one of the few instances due to a fire that took place in the prison,

00:18:18.880 she is left alone with two other inmates who are very tough women.

00:18:23.560 She does something insane again. So these women, not her, these women start fighting. 0.93

00:18:27.940 They're just yelling at each other. What does she do? She takes one of the shoelaces off of 1.00

00:18:32.300 her boots she comes up beside behind one of the women and she starts to choke her out she chokes 1.00

00:18:37.040 her unconscious until police guards i guess finally see what's going on um and and try to 1.00

00:18:44.800 stop her but yeah she um she's a murder junkie she told her mother on a recorded call after this 1.00

00:18:53.640 happened that she quote wrapped that shoestring around her and tried to choke the damn life out 1.00

00:18:58.640 of her uh she described uh how she passed out was twitching foaming at the mouth eyes bulging 1.00

00:19:04.740 to an investigator she said she didn't necessarily intend to kill her but quote didn't care if she 1.00

00:19:11.260 died end quote so there was also and there's a women's organization spending millions of dollars 1.00

00:19:18.200 trying to prevent her from getting the death penalty yeah women are their own worst enemies 1.00

00:19:22.420 because the people who she's torturing are women the people who she's killing are women 0.99

00:19:26.160 yeah women just do not care they remind me so much of that study of the bad actors versus good 0.94

00:19:32.240 actors and men watched a person be shocked when they were playing a game and they felt bad about 0.61

00:19:37.280 it but they watched a person who was cheating being shocked and they felt good about it while

00:19:40.940 women felt equally bad for the person who was cheating and the person who wasn't cheating

00:19:44.120 women do not care they do not care here's the thing though this it takes you know men are

00:19:50.000 complicit in this too with the 2012 um escape plot she was involved in there was this personal 0.97

00:19:57.180 trainer that was corresponding with her that bribed a guard and there was this whole plan

00:20:01.500 to get her out he was a man this wasn't a woman so like it isn't just it isn't just 1.00

00:20:07.760 and you know she would have immediately started killing people if she got out

00:20:12.400 oh absolutely i mean this this is a woman who's who seems genuinely quite quite dangerous but

00:20:18.540 I will say, thank God she's been in solitary for, what, 30 years?

00:20:22.620 I can't imagine the horror of being in solitary for 30 years.

00:20:27.160 That is, yeah, it's a pretty intense punishment.

00:20:29.760 In fact, so first, the Tennessee Supreme Court set the September 30th date.

00:20:37.300 That's today.

00:20:38.260 This was the day she was killed.

00:20:40.400 And there were a ton of last moment efforts.

00:20:43.260 So the Tennessee Supreme Court denied a stay.

00:20:45.980 Governor Lee denied clemency on September 28th.

00:20:48.720 And then the U.S. Supreme Court denied a cert and stay on September 29th.

00:20:53.740 So up to the very last day, people have been trying to resist her execution.

00:20:58.280 What were they thinking?

00:20:59.260 Like, what was their logic in doing this?

00:21:01.340 I will share the logic.

00:21:02.400 I will share the logic.

00:21:03.580 Because these are these arguments made by-

00:21:06.060 Is that it?

00:21:06.920 She was administrating?

00:21:08.600 No, actually, that isn't one of the arguments.

00:21:10.440 That's kind of crazy.

00:21:12.460 So, but these arguments made by lawyers, experts, amnesty, UN, human rights specialists, and more than 100 women's advocacy groups.

00:21:21.860 Okay.

00:21:22.560 Over a hundred women's advocacy groups. 0.96

00:21:25.020 Over a hundred.

00:21:25.920 Over a hundred women's groups and advocacy groups. 0.54

00:21:28.280 At some point, likely groups of women, likely well over, decided that women just shouldn't face punishment.

00:21:33.660 Yeah, even though one of their own was like, I just feel mean today and tortured and killed another woman.

00:21:39.960 i don't know like again and showed interest in continuing this behavior yeah i didn't care if

00:21:46.680 she died yeah choked out a woman who wasn't even fighting with her she was just like here's my

00:21:52.340 opportunity i guess i anyway so one thing that they that they're one of the arguments they make

00:21:58.240 is very legalistic in the same way that lindsey clancy's lawyer is like do you even have proof

00:22:03.140 like chain of custody something something she was what she was told what was happening and she didn't

00:22:09.000 know and she was on meds so i think they're trying to do this whole thing where she got the death

00:22:13.920 penalty whereas her boyfriend and accomplice you know the one that carved the pentagram into this

00:22:17.880 poor woman um did not he got um like 25 years or so he a parole was denied like two years ago

00:22:27.100 but he's in jail because he was 17 she was 18 so she got the death penalty and they're trying to

00:22:33.780 argue that there's no fundamental neurological difference between someone who is 17 years old 1.00

00:22:39.280 and 18 years old look it's an arbitrary cutoff like it's i think it's a stupid argument they 0.86

00:22:44.120 the most compelling argument although i don't think this is compelling in terms of getting her 0.95

00:22:48.540 excused from her punishment but this is another thing that makes me think we need a better justice 0.93

00:22:53.980 system is it from the start this woman pike was subjected to abuse even in the womb so apparently 0.96

00:23:02.080 her mother drank heavily while she was pregnant this could have caused like you know lifelong 0.93

00:23:07.500 brain damage um she had been bs my parent drank heavily while she was pregnant and i'm who knows

00:23:14.580 who knows maybe i'm fine who knows people will be like oh he's clearly brain damaged it's like well

00:23:19.540 if i'm clearly brain damaged and i got a stanford graduate degree and a saint andrews undergraduate

00:23:25.580 degree two of the top universities in the world why did you fail at that okay so maybe i wasn't 0.78

00:23:31.740 that brain damage right or maybe maybe the brain damage is just that i'm too awesome i'm too brain

00:23:37.040 awesome too brain awesome yeah she there's like this weird um local minimum of like not enough

00:23:44.220 drinking in the womb but you got so much that you were super powered yes i don't know i don't know

00:23:50.140 but anyway she was also abused she was also art of the apes um you know all the things right like

00:23:56.380 just she had a very very very bad life and was never really given a chance and look had we had

00:24:03.720 a better justice system that caught people and helped her earlier in her life this may have

00:24:09.320 never happened and so this is something that i do think about but they're very much like look she

00:24:13.560 had untreated bipolar she had ptsd she was abused like how could you give someone like that the

00:24:18.460 death sentence i still think like look everyone who commits atrocities who tortures you can't let

00:24:25.420 them out on the streets for sure i mean i guess they just wanted her to get life in prison i get

00:24:28.900 that uh i find it interesting actually because i you know simone's a smart person how uncritically

00:24:35.280 she accepts all of this trauma related stuff about this woman's childhood which was really

00:24:40.600 only established in her first trial um the only thing we have any evidence of is one case of

00:24:47.100 sexual abuse when she was 11 and the rest of it is just stuff that she says um which is bad

00:24:54.920 but uh i i think we need to be realistic about what somebody would say when they were put on

00:25:01.360 trial for something like this they're going to look for oh look at this happened to me look at

00:25:07.120 this happened to me you'd almost expect them to be able to come up with a bunch of stuff related

00:25:12.060 like this they also try to argue and i don't know how they're doing this that she has really

00:25:18.120 rehabilitated that she is a changed person um but she tried to escape and kill people that's why i'm

00:25:24.560 really not i don't know why they took that angle but these are women's groups you know maybe they're

00:25:31.460 not the best and brightest here um and also this is this is where i stand what was all of this

00:25:37.360 why can't we profit from women more easily if they're so easily scammed like what this is the 0.96

00:25:44.040 thing i need to i need to get better at exploiting because men are being stupid about this too um i 0.98

00:25:49.500 you know i i'm going to do an episode soon on what i call man witches um and an argument that 0.96

00:25:57.800 many of the man witches are making is that men have relinquished their role in the occult and

00:26:05.820 that's why the occult has gotten so bad i mean i think that to a great extent men are relinquishing

00:26:10.240 responsibility for for women and you know that's that's bad they are being fooled too you know

00:26:16.540 fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice. Wait, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice,

00:26:21.380 shame on me. Look, I'm a woman. Something like that. But it's a very confusing statement. I get

00:26:26.660 why. Well, because famously George Bush messed that up and people only remember the messed up

00:26:30.500 version. Maybe. I don't know. I'm in solidarity with George Bush here. But look, men are playing

00:26:38.240 a part in this. Of course, to your point, people are arguing that her isolation and solitary for

00:26:43.900 so long was also pretty cruel and unusual and that she should get mercy just for that 0.92

00:26:50.720 and then the final thing yeah i mean that's they should have just killed her immediately

00:26:56.280 they really should have i also like why on earth well because it takes a long time it is very

00:27:02.100 expensive to put someone on death row i know we're going to talk about that because the whole

00:27:04.760 discussion here is really what should the justice system be so the final argument is that because

00:27:11.740 because she was our apid and abused as a child that she has asked though been denied for an

00:27:24.760 all-female execution team because a lot of psychologists are arguing that as she is being

00:27:32.500 killed she'll go into some kind of regressive state where she thinks she is being 0.99

00:27:36.060 right this is so dumb every every histionic woman i have ever met claims that they were 0.99

00:27:45.580 raped to the child this is a normal thing for histionic women to do i'm i'm sorry that it is 0.98

00:27:51.560 offensive to say this and for a lot of women who genuinely went through hardship with a child 0.98

00:27:55.680 this is one thing right like this is it's it's bad that this happens but a lot of sociopathic

00:28:01.600 histionic women i'm gonna say virtually would you agree i'm actually wondering this in your life 1.00

00:28:06.920 when you have known like really selfish histionic narcissistic women have you ever known any of 0.54

00:28:13.760 them who didn't claim to be raped as a child i don't know any such women you've never met any 1.00

00:28:21.120 woman who was a crazy b now you could say it's causational women like that won't talk to maybe

00:28:26.200 it's causational but what i've noticed is claiming this gets you a lot of benefits as a woman as we 1.00

00:28:33.460 can already see from this woman it gets you out of a lot of as a woman and so if you're already 0.86

00:28:38.320 why not claim it if i were the person who was about to be put down i honestly would not care 0.92

00:28:46.940 about the gender i would i would not ask because i'm being killed like it doesn't matter but she's

00:28:53.120 arguing that living through another experience in which she's being you know physically restrained 0.68

00:28:59.560 um by men like tied down is gonna be so what she did this to other people like come on well because

00:29:07.500 we have the eighth amendment against true cruel and unusual treatment um and it's not unusual it 0.96

00:29:13.540 is the usual she wants special treatment yeah anyway um the the states and the victim's family

00:29:21.280 hold a very very consistent position here that you know she tortured she she had a a prolonged

00:29:27.840 involuntary choice to torture this woman she bragged about it she kept a trophy she later

00:29:34.580 tried to kill another inmate um and she the the the the victim's mother just wants you know as

00:29:42.800 she puts it her daughter to finally be resting um and i i think that that's entirely fair too

00:29:48.400 although personally i don't think that hurting someone in exchange for being hurt really does

00:29:54.780 anything i disagree it helps society stay stable if you look at the countries with some of i think

00:30:01.160 honestly when when you go through leviticus at least guys in the comments tell me if i'm wrong

00:30:06.460 here it the the punishments seem to go like this there has to be and we've discussed this with some

00:30:12.580 of our listeners too there has to be proof of burn like you have to pay a penalty when you do

00:30:16.680 a bad thing and if you're dangerous to the society you have to be removed basically you're

00:30:20.740 going to get killed or shunned like we all agree upon that if you are a danger to society you're

00:30:25.540 going to be removed but it doesn't matter necessarily how you're removed and most of the 0.58

00:30:29.240 removal is fairly quick the stoning to death is not exactly but presumably people do it fast

00:30:35.340 hopefully but it's it's about removal or it is about costly like proof of burn i i don't think

00:30:42.680 that like so simone did if you look at like let's take certain populations here if you look at the

00:30:48.800 middle east or you look at like let's say muslim countries the ones that are the safest are the

00:30:52.740 ones that often have some of the most severe punishments yeah but removal you and i were

00:30:56.940 talking about this earlier like cutting off hands i it just occurred to me when you said that

00:31:00.940 if someone doesn't have hands it's a lot harder to murder someone i know there was that person

00:31:05.900 who had no legs and no arms who shot someone recently but you know he was an exceptional man

00:31:12.280 um and it's otherwise very hard to do that so simone there's something i don't know i think

00:31:20.460 what no honestly though honestly though instead of just like putting people in prison for like

00:31:25.060 an overnight period and letting them go because there's no room in this prisons don't you think

00:31:28.640 we should just cut off hands cutting off hands would be good but i think it's probably better

00:31:34.640 like when somebody is arrested like i have an easy time if you're arrested over 200 times 0.99

00:31:40.140 execution it doesn't matter if it was a misdemeanor it's you're just a problem for society at that

00:31:44.900 point um if you have to be picked up that many times if you have to like there's people out

00:31:49.620 there who have like robbed a store like 300 times in a year or something in new york right like

00:31:53.740 these people are just negative externalities for society and i think cutting off their hands

00:31:58.800 um i mean what are we going to do we're going to put them under presumably at first right and then

00:32:03.580 they're going to have to live off the state because they don't have hands like i think

00:32:07.220 it's better to just take care of these things right like i think being a i think we were able

00:32:14.840 to be a less harsh society when there were social punishments for doing stuff like this if you were

00:32:21.580 in a uh you know an old um puritan settlement and you stole from something the your treatment 0.73

00:32:30.080 from the community like the way that would change your life would likely be worse than having your

00:32:34.400 hands cut off absolutely yeah yeah i mean and it could even if you're just shunned from many

00:32:39.220 communities it's functionally death and we talked about that self-organizing community in portland

00:32:44.900 called dignity village where you know if you cross some like you know even if you escalate to

00:32:51.380 violence ever you're out forever that is that is i loved one of the comments we got on that which

00:32:56.320 it said for somebody claiming to be a christian you don't have a lot of sympathy for these homeless

00:33:00.720 people and i'm like uh have you read the bible i know man not like you're worshiping buddy christ

00:33:07.980 man this is not like the bible you know like um the bible is not a not a harsh document in terms

00:33:16.320 of how people are treated or how punishments are doled out um i mean god kills a guy's kid

00:33:23.740 because of sexual impropriety and getting a guy killed um but that i mean he seems to lean more

00:33:30.260 on the sexual impropriety in the way that he he words it uh but yeah that is you know that god is

00:33:35.880 very hard he's a guy picks up sticks on the sabbaths moses isn't sure what to do and god's 0.94

00:33:42.440 like stone him yeah just stone him to death beat him to death with stones right like um this this

00:33:50.180 is uh the well i mean the christian would be like that was the old testament we are a different 0.98

00:33:55.500 people so god grew up i don't think so i know i know i know i know let's but i i think yeah we

00:34:02.140 we've definitely arrived at the point in this conversation where we do discuss what should be

00:34:06.400 done i want to give you a sort of basis for that um because the thing that gives me my big influence

00:34:12.640 in terms of crime and punishment is this sub stack post by scott alexander that he published in

00:34:18.720 november of 2024 titled prison and crime much more than you wanted to know which is a really

00:34:24.000 good read. I recommend it. I link it in the show notes, which you should check out on Substack and

00:34:28.480 Patreon. And if you look at the extant research, which he did, he compared deterrence, like

00:34:35.820 discouraging crime through the threat of punishment, with incapacitation, like preventing

00:34:40.780 someone from committing crimes in the community while they are imprisoned, or maybe while their

00:34:45.360 hands are cut off. But he didn't look at that, obviously. But per his analysis, the best practical

00:34:49.680 way to reduce crime is to make offenders more likely to be caught chiefly through effective

00:34:55.520 policing rather than simply making prison sentences longer. And he concluded that longer

00:35:01.040 prison sentences have relatively small deterrent effects. But separately, there's not much

00:35:06.360 evidence that suggesting that even the death penalty is a strong deterrent. I looked at this

00:35:11.060 National Institute of Justice page that said that there's no proof that the death penalty deters

00:35:16.100 crime and it cites a national academy's review finding the research uninformative about whether

00:35:22.780 it increases decreases or has no effect on homicide and that's not very how i feel about that

00:35:28.580 okay um this is one of those categories of research where you just can't trust it

00:35:34.560 yeah maybe in the academic fields that are doing this research there is far too much political

00:35:41.320 baggage it's one of those things like spanking like you just can't trust a modern anthropology

00:35:46.480 professor to be honest about the effects of spanking none of them are going to like it's

00:35:52.340 very difficult from a career perspective imagine you a leftist professor in a field where like 99

00:35:57.560 percent of people are leftists and note there was a recent study showing that even moderates have

00:36:01.300 mostly left academia at this point or been pushed out and you publish something saying that the

00:36:06.420 death penalty is good for society you are going to be crucified that is horrible for your career

00:36:14.260 you you just cannot trust the research on this you need to look at common sense and i think the

00:36:21.140 common sense answer is that you need to find a way for the death penalty to be a cost and time

00:36:28.700 reduction mechanism not even a deterrent um yeah because i actually looked at this uh in the usa

00:36:35.320 say, the death penalty costs taxpayers a ton more. For this one Maryland Urban Institute study

00:36:41.740 published in 2008, the difference is about $1.9 million per case. So a death penalty case costs

00:36:49.880 about $3 million when the case resulted in a death sentence. And then a comparable case without the

00:36:55.340 death penalty costs about $1.1 million. And also per a Washington Seattle University study published

00:37:01.380 in 2015 the difference is 1.06 million and we shouldn't be spending over a million dollars 0.97

00:37:07.860 per criminal that we're dealing with as a society well just to kill them keep in mind the death

00:37:12.540 penalty case cost 3.07 million when prosecutors sought death but without the death right my

00:37:19.760 problem 2.1 million to put someone away for life 2.1 yeah just that that should not be the case we

00:37:25.480 should not be spending 2.1 million on these people yeah there should be a way to do this at a quarter

00:37:30.300 of that price and obviously it takes more work uh with capital cases though it also costs a lot

00:37:35.300 for to put someone away for life the the review can last for years i mean this woman was in jail 0.89

00:37:39.360 for 30 years confinement confinement costs more and it did in her case because she had her own

00:37:44.780 separate area to be in where it was also fairly cruel i mean i think your plan to build like uh

00:37:52.900 you know quarantine city or something like that you know yeah here's my proposal this is my modest

00:37:57.020 proposal and this is my today proposal i'm gonna have a different one for the near future okay

00:38:00.500 so hear me out here today we one create a penal colony obviously two we send people above a

00:38:09.300 certain crime threshold to the colony only after we sterilize them because there's no way i am

00:38:14.900 bringing new life into this call i'm not subjecting children to this colony okay so you have to

00:38:19.060 sterilize the people before they go off to the colony the life finds a way they might do weird

00:38:24.080 jurassic park frog stuff but anyway then you make the penal colony self-governing i'm talking

00:38:29.700 dignity village penal colony edition yes so that people can form their own justice systems and

00:38:36.740 then when bad actors choose to do bad things they will be dealt with according to the rules of that

00:38:43.120 society or whatever enclave they choose to join once they go to this place but and then the colony

00:38:49.680 can choose the death penalty exactly well then the colony or i imagine personally i would imagine

00:38:54.340 that the colony would form different enclaves like different forms of dignity village each with their

00:38:58.300 own rules and with their own specialties like you know how when you go to jail you like jail

00:39:02.980 consultants are like look sorry but you're just you're just gonna need to enter you're gonna join 0.88

00:39:06.940 one asset group yeah so you allow you're white you're going with the whites at the colony one 0.61

00:39:11.540 that is the the white gang one that is the black gang one that is the hispanic gang and you just 0.74

00:39:17.900 opt into whichever one you want to opt into or like honestly if you give people freedom because

00:39:22.600 they're not locked in a jail anymore they might actually form less boring kinds of enclaves but

00:39:27.380 you have to join your thing and then you're subject to their rules and i feel like this

00:39:31.220 would give people a second chance like we wouldn't set them out in like a desert you know i would put

00:39:35.340 the penal colony somewhere where they they could build settlements they could have a shot at life

00:39:39.840 and honestly i feel like a lot of them would instantly do a ton better and actually get to

00:39:46.220 live a life, you know, get to live a life and do good, at least within this small enclave and have

00:39:51.200 a second chance. And not at least not hurt people because the most important thing, okay, it's the

00:39:56.820 portal song. I used to want you dead. Now I only want you gone. We just need them gone. We just 0.99

00:40:02.620 need them gone. And so if they're out from the penal colony, I don't care if they're having a

00:40:06.060 great time. In fact, my near future recommendation is this, okay? I think this is the best possible

00:40:11.180 solution so in the near future when technology makes this feasible give everyone the option to

00:40:17.940 have a pleasure pod like this is not necessarily ubi but if you want no this is a really bad 1.00

00:40:23.520 solution for a woman like this who tortures and kills people you can't give them this sort of it 1.00

00:40:27.880 out if they're a torture killer no but i'm gonna know what i'm saying is give every citizen this 0.99

00:40:32.400 option every citizen regardless of where they are in life she at that time only knew this other 0.81

00:40:39.000 woman that she hurts because she was in this job training program with presumably she would have 1.00

00:40:44.660 opted into the pleasure pod she obviously would have and she wouldn't have hurt anyone okay so

00:40:48.480 because look i'm looking even back to her childhood right i'm looking back to the fact

00:40:52.020 that she had an alcoholic mother who probably didn't want to have her in the first place and 0.98

00:40:55.480 then had this whole abusive childhood that mother never would have had her because that mother would

00:40:59.680 have been in a pleasure pod okay like the whole i just i'm trying to figure out how do we break

00:41:03.280 this cycle and i think if you take anyone who is not ideologically motivated who is not trying to

00:41:08.560 build a better world, who just is lazy and wants to have fun. And that is, that's fine. Okay. Our

00:41:13.400 bodies are designed to conserve energy and to pursue pleasure because that has historically,

00:41:17.800 you know, led to more offspring, but now it doesn't. Right. So everyone gets an option to

00:41:22.980 get a pleasure pod. Okay. That is no longer optional after you do a bad, then you have to

00:41:28.740 go into the box. I don't need people to suffer. I don't, again, we don't benefit from people

00:41:36.060 suffering we benefit from them being gone so society okay i'm fine with this yes okay okay

00:41:44.020 it has been declared that in the future when people are bad they will have to go to the

00:41:52.540 pleasure pond but also anyone who wishes to go into the pleasure pond well no if they've already

00:41:58.080 done something bad no that is not optional it is not optional they have to go into it

00:42:02.460 okay yeah so you go in the box if you want to go in the box which is going to prevent the 0.99

00:42:08.260 malcolm i swear to you the vast majority of crimes at least like the stupid ones where people you 1.00

00:42:14.720 know kill each other the the the you know there will still be murders and power struggles you 1.00

00:42:20.400 know like power struggle based murders court intrigue nonsense right and there will be

00:42:24.020 punishments for that obviously right but the vast majority of the atrocities including the abuse

00:42:30.440 that this woman faced throughout her life from her in utero experience allegedly would not have

00:42:37.100 allegedly come on you think she's not gonna claim that do you think she would have been born if her

00:42:44.220 mother had had the option to enter a pleasure pod you don't know that anything she i mean i don't

00:42:48.900 know if i buy anything about her mother but sure um would she have been born but hopefully not right

00:42:53.080 so we're doing my option we're doing my option you get evil ideologies that are strictly believed 0.94

00:42:59.340 which can be even worse like what islam oh so you're saying muslims aren't going to go in the 0.97

00:43:06.080 pleasure pod well actually yeah of all the religions it's the one that would most likely 1.00

00:43:10.920 go in their heaven is a pleasure pod they're going to prefer the pleasure pod because at least the 0.80

00:43:14.940 the hot chicks there don't have see-through shins yeah it's like immediately we can give you what 1.00

00:43:19.980 you think the afterlife is going to be see you don't have to wait also if you're in there you're

00:43:26.720 not going to commit the sins that are going to get you sent to hell so you know it's a win-win

00:43:34.920 all right like maybe do some good proselytizing and then go into the pleasure pod and then you're

00:43:39.300 you're good although now i hear that they'll martyr and then well no if they're martyr they're

00:43:45.500 dead so then that's not a problem but anyway anyway i still think that this is the best option 0.93

00:43:51.800 in terms of a justice system because it's clear to me that the justice system as it exists sucks

00:43:58.060 but what would you do okay aside from my penal colony thing now pleasure pot in the future

00:44:03.320 solution i mean i think for egregious cases like this you do need some form of negative

00:44:08.740 consequence i think it could be pleasure pot for most people but once you've done something bad

00:44:12.300 how does that make anything better it doesn't bring your better imagine how the family is going

00:44:19.200 to feel the family of the daughter who was tortured to death is going to feel if they know

00:44:24.620 that their killer got the pleasure pot how is lindsey clancy's husband going to feel if his

00:44:31.260 wife gets the pleasure pot i think she's getting it now she's drugged up to high heaven that's the

00:44:35.680 rest of her life i mean i don't i think that you're not considering the effects on the society

00:44:44.920 when you know that there isn't justice for a crime.

00:44:48.280 And I think having a degree of real and severe justice

00:44:52.100 is what allows the rest of society

00:44:56.240 to feel okay with what's going on with their lives.

00:45:00.280 You know, you haven't had one of your kids

00:45:02.780 tortured and killed by somebody yet, Simone.

00:45:04.500 You're going to feel real different

00:45:06.400 about that person being in a pleasure pod

00:45:08.100 once that happens to you. 1.00

00:45:10.100 So I guess you get to shoot them. 1.00

00:45:12.080 This is abstract for you. 1.00

00:45:13.780 it's not your life

00:45:15.460 and I think that

00:45:16.620 if you accept

00:45:18.400 that this could be

00:45:19.140 one of our kids

00:45:20.280 absolutely

00:45:21.400 I do not think

00:45:22.540 a pleasure pod

00:45:23.020 can be an option

00:45:23.520 once you have done

00:45:24.100 something that bad

00:45:25.080 I think society

00:45:26.100 needs to be okay

00:45:27.560 with the types of punishment

00:45:29.200 that used to be normal

00:45:30.320 okay then they get vaporized

00:45:31.780 I don't understand

00:45:34.860 why we can't just

00:45:35.780 Starship Trooper 3 it

00:45:37.100 oh hangings

00:45:38.580 she actually requested 0.52

00:45:39.780 a hanging I think

00:45:40.580 oh fantastic

00:45:42.100 yeah

00:45:43.780 so did she get i don't know why she would request a hanging and not a firing squad which some states

00:45:49.460 actually are bringing back i would want to die by firing squad personally so i don't get the

00:45:54.760 hanging thing because hangings don't always work you know like you want to you want to want it on

00:45:59.740 it i mean firing squads don't always work either but that's only when they collude to mess up oh

00:46:06.460 do they do that sometimes oh yeah yeah they should yeah i know i know well ah there i am

00:46:14.440 saying it um maybe i'm admitting my true feelings here but again they need to be gone they don't

00:46:23.020 okay they're hurting doesn't more hurting doesn't make anything better it just adds more hurting

00:46:29.160 i appreciate your logic simone that is very correct and logical i just if it was one of

00:46:36.100 our kids i wouldn't be okay with that and i think that we need to consider the people whose lives

00:46:44.740 that these people have damaged both the tortured individual and that people's person's family

00:46:48.700 um and that requires some form of justice and it's not just about what's best for society

00:46:55.320 in a sort of sociopathic way it's about making society right

00:46:59.120 um and the audience can chime in who's who's more correct here they're all going to support you

00:47:07.120 but then if we're not so how how are how are we killing people who did bad very bad things

00:47:13.800 i think i think uh firing squad firing squads are the most ethical cheap you know see how is

00:47:24.840 lots of people get to participate oh so firing squad but if you want to

00:47:32.180 you the victim's family and firing squad they're still alive

00:47:38.000 and they're always going to screw up on purpose yeah i think that would that would i'm oh i'm okay

00:47:46.260 with that as long as it's of course obviously efficient and fast uh instead of see the thing

00:47:52.200 is i think with pleasure pods like if it was just if you don't follow the rules you're into the box

00:47:56.220 um is one of those things that isn't going to end up being caught up in the amount of

00:48:00.660 bureaucratic morass that adds an additional 1.9 to 1.2 million dollars pleasure pods when we have

00:48:07.420 the technology for it because that's the thing that's that's why scott alexander ended up in

00:48:11.780 his blog post saying we just need better police policing and finding people who commit crimes

00:48:18.540 No, I mean, we need to arrest the people we've already found.

00:48:21.480 A big problem is that we don't arrest people.

00:48:23.280 I know, I know.

00:48:24.860 Yeah.

00:48:26.200 Love you, Simone.

00:48:27.040 Have a spectacular day.

00:48:29.160 You too.

00:48:30.180 For dinner tonight, I don't really want anything.

00:48:32.560 I'll do chips and salsa.

00:48:33.000 I was going to make you pasta with pesto, but you don't want it?

00:48:37.000 A little bit.

00:48:38.660 A little bit.

00:48:40.560 Very little bit.

00:48:41.580 I had a lot of pursuit out today.

00:48:43.600 Oh, so just nothing.

00:48:45.740 If you want to just take the night off, also that's an option.

00:48:49.080 We'll see.

00:48:50.080 I love you.

00:48:50.900 Have a good day.

00:48:51.620 Well, I mean, I need to know if I'm making it or not.

00:48:53.600 So you want to rest?

00:48:54.700 I prefer chips and salsa.

00:48:57.980 So do you want to come downstairs or do you want to stay?

00:49:01.180 I may come downstairs.

00:49:02.320 I will decide.

00:49:03.420 You may make an appearance.

00:49:05.820 The children will have to wait and see.

00:49:09.240 Daddy.

00:49:11.980 They're so sweet.

00:49:13.880 You might want to come down just to hear Indy meow. 0.58

00:49:17.300 Meow.

00:49:17.620 she's so cute oh my okay why are you a cutie i'm certainly not but these kids man 0.97

00:49:29.220 god i love it i love it bye yes okay this is our stupid asmr where we uh we molest our mics 0.96

00:49:43.180 and malcolm chews food which is just everything to me hey you know as content creators we don't 0.67

00:49:49.820 even have any asmr videos i actually think you know i i told you about that one of the

00:49:54.980 youtube has been doing a bunch of sweeps and one of the big sweeps that youtube did recently is a

00:49:59.900 lot of asmr creators i think that's because many of them had only fans in their link trees and

00:50:05.120 stuff and even if it was like secondarily linked to from youtube they just took them out but

00:50:10.920 yeah asmr is a gift to darker things apparently as well i mean straub uh you know rev's wife um

00:50:23.820 yeah just had a kid so she there's been a big controversy recently because she went after 0.98

00:50:31.100 conservatives who look up to sydney sweeney because sydney sweeney had a bunch of sexy art of her 0.81

00:50:35.580 and uh then people pointed out well i mean you used to do sexy content so she did um

00:50:41.780 uh asmr videos back in the past but v specifically that is highly contested by many asmr artistes

00:50:50.020 that as well she she thought it was erotic because she took it down um oh uh and so i mean my my take 1.00

00:50:57.980 on all this is one i think it's annoying that she's out there policing conservative influence 1.00

00:51:05.480 who use their body for sending... 1.00

00:51:09.080 I mean, she's an actress. 1.00

00:51:10.320 Sydney, all actresses are prostitutes. 0.99

00:51:12.180 We've done a video on that, right? 1.00

00:51:13.780 Like, they are selling their body.

00:51:15.360 They do appear naked.

00:51:16.180 Okay, so what is it worse for her to do

00:51:17.920 to, like, lightly shame her

00:51:19.320 versus you being like, 1.00

00:51:20.480 she's a prostitute. 0.99

00:51:21.860 It's normal. 1.00

00:51:23.120 It's normal.

00:51:23.720 No, well, I... 1.00

00:51:24.920 All actresses are prostitutes. 1.00

00:51:27.240 And I think that, you know, 0.98

00:51:28.600 it's not useful if somebody's, you know,

00:51:30.760 helping promote our side

00:51:32.180 and our wider cause.

00:51:33.520 she she's never come out explicitly as conservative or anything everything is she's at least willing 0.63

00:51:40.600 to do the ads she's at least willing to do the my genes you know like they're ads for jeans they're

00:51:47.220 ads for sports bettings there's nothing politically coded per se i guess oh wait sorry admitting that

00:51:52.540 genetics exists is now an inherently conservative statement okay i like that somebody who hasn't

00:52:00.280 and blacklisted from the acting world you know if she came out as explicitly conservative she'd be

00:52:03.620 fired like whatever her name is like gina whatever the star wars woman um so even if she does have

00:52:11.280 conservative sentiments she couldn't she couldn't say them publicly but i i think that you know it's

00:52:15.440 best for us to not be shooting on team but even even if that wasn't the case even if i thought

00:52:20.080 you know strab's original criticism was something that she really needed to litigate she deleted all

00:52:25.920 her old content right like she's very clearly like on team these days and doesn't come across

00:52:30.600 as particularly i mean i only know her through her relationship with rev which doesn't come

00:52:36.220 across this griftery i mean clearly he's a twitter monkey um people want to engage in online stuff and

00:52:45.280 a lot of people think that the way to start or the only way that people are going to pay attention

00:52:50.020 to you is if you cater to less intellectual things which i mean as the inherently limited

00:52:57.120 nature of our audience demonstrates like it is a small growth is way slower than if you

00:53:03.060 immediately put out kid slop or asmr or i mean even um uh yuki wada was talking about how like

00:53:12.480 in the beginning her her avatar was really bodacious and very different from the way that

00:53:17.420 she looks now because she's like well I guess if I have to succeed I better be a fan service kind

00:53:23.040 of character and I don't I don't fault anyone for that I don't fault anyone also for having done

00:53:29.480 that in the past and then criticizing it because they know better than anyone else the downsides

00:53:33.140 of it so I I stand in in defense of Straub here dismissive dismissive nod I'm sorry what would

00:53:44.360 this subtitle say i depend on subtitles to understand just checking because i was very

00:53:48.040 surprised that our episode about jews breaking rules is not eight out of ten it's just not doing

00:53:51.700 very well and usually i think my title card was better should have used mine should have used

00:53:57.480 yours you think oh yeah i do well you can switch it now you get mad when i mess with anything

00:54:04.820 but yeah i will i will switch it then thank you i appreciate you have permission to switch it out

00:54:11.540 Don't accidentally delete the video or something.

00:54:14.000 You're so sure.

00:54:14.980 I remember I changed the text that's on it

00:54:16.960 so you can use my text or your text.

00:54:18.800 I'm going to use my text.

00:54:20.920 I'm going to just do the thing.

00:54:22.820 All right.

00:54:23.640 Let's see how it does.

00:54:27.000 Speaking of do the thing,

00:54:28.660 one of my deep underlying fears

00:54:31.220 is that you can yell do the thing to AI

00:54:37.020 and then what am I there for?

00:54:39.060 How am I...

00:54:40.180 I am having so much fun making a video game.

00:54:42.960 What happens with Varick and Zulie when Varick finds vibe coding?

00:54:46.080 You know what I mean?

00:54:47.380 Do the thing.

00:54:48.420 I'm going to eventually not need you.

00:54:49.860 Well, I've asked you for help with a few things.

00:54:51.700 It's just they haven't really moved forward.

00:54:54.000 I haven't helped you.

00:54:56.540 But I understand.

00:54:58.040 I've taken on so many other things helping you.

00:55:01.480 You're very busy keeping this family.

00:55:03.220 I got the video, though.

00:55:03.920 I downloaded the video of the comic.

00:55:07.300 So speaking of not safe at work, try out RFAB, the best chatbot website online.

00:55:11.700 You could use any of the Frontier models.

00:55:13.240 And even our free model is Kimmy2, which is to use at the speeds that we're using at.

00:55:18.600 If you were using it as a local model, I learned would be 500 gigabytes, half a terabyte.

00:55:24.080 So even our free models are way better than Candy's highest paid models or GPT Flow's highest paid models.

00:55:32.660 So janitor AI obviously doesn't even come close.

00:55:35.340 It's like, what are you doing if you're on January AI?

00:55:37.640 They're still these days.

00:55:38.720 So great site for chatbots.

00:55:40.200 But you can also do things like turn a comic into a video.

00:55:43.700 Any comic into a video with the right scenes,

00:55:47.120 playing at the right times, with the right language.

00:55:49.420 So it'll auto-translate for you.

00:55:51.280 We have a translator.

00:55:52.600 If you've ever had a comic or something you've seen on a site

00:55:55.340 and you're like, I'd really like to know what this is,

00:55:56.700 you can just put it in and it'll translate it for you.

00:55:59.400 And then you can repost it and make a whole business out of that.

00:56:01.880 That could be your business, is making mawas and putting them on YouTube about villainesses.

00:56:10.420 Yeah, let's just see.

00:56:11.580 The Age of Arrogance.

00:56:13.940 Emperor Kendrick Everest sat the jeweled throne, crowned on his white hair, the fur mantle across his shoulders.

00:56:21.180 The right to choose a marriage partner.

00:56:23.960 From the throne, he addressed the court, cloaked figures, standing on the red carpet as the crowd murmured below.

00:56:29.940 That is what I shall bestow upon you

00:56:32.920 as a reward for leading us to victory.

00:56:36.520 Shinnah Shapravaz stared ahead, stunned.

00:56:39.280 Still on the throne, he granted...

00:56:40.700 Oh my gosh, it's actually really good.

00:56:42.980 Why don't you post it before this episode

00:56:44.860 and we can make a link to it.

00:56:46.360 Okay.

00:56:47.480 Because we're going to make a villainous channel.

00:56:49.680 And I've actually read this malware before

00:56:51.620 and it's pretty good.

00:56:52.160 I put it on one of my...

00:56:52.860 I know, I started with the bottom of your top list

00:56:55.220 because I figured I'd screw it up at the beginning.

00:56:56.900 But no, this is chapter one to ten.

00:56:58.220 it's like more than an hour wow man that was i just uploaded a file no i just put in a url and

00:57:06.160 clicked your button and it made that it auto detects all of the chapters it dude sir yeah

00:57:13.240 and right now i finally got the not safe for work comic engine working pretty well

00:57:18.700 yeah and he will make not safe for work comics for you beginning to end that you could make a

00:57:22.960 business publishing to other sites and we need people doing that because we need a bunch of

00:57:26.460 RFAP branded stuff. Oh my gosh. If I make a username on the sites that I'm going to post

00:57:32.460 these to once you make them, cause I don't know what to make. Can it, could the username be P-R-V-A-Y-E-R

00:57:38.600 purveyor? The purveyor. I think there's something about people with Asperger's and like puns or

00:57:48.780 something you probably want it to be the company name oh fine you're right someone else please be

00:57:57.760 the purveyor i need this to happen anyway anything to grow anything to get bigger i'm so impressed

00:58:05.860 by that that was i literally hit download before we started to record because i was like i gotta

00:58:10.340 get this you know gotta move on to the next chapter set because you're right you know it

00:58:13.260 takes a little while but wow malcolm oh i'm gonna say you can queue up a few chapters at once

00:58:21.240 oh yeah you mean like a few processing thingies well like so to be like can you do do one video

00:58:28.680 of chapters 10 to 20 20 to 30 30 to 40 and then it just makes three videos in turn that would be

00:58:35.220 i mean that would i'm sure people would like that as a feature i know that i would like that as a

00:58:39.380 feature because then you can just upload all of them and be done with it. I just, I want to stop

00:58:47.580 and watch the round. Like, wait, what? I want to watch this Mawa. Okay. That's great. That's great.

00:58:54.020 Thank you for, uh, for doing that. I know that you found this whole genre to be quite enjoyable.

00:59:00.840 And so other people will as well, you carrying out the trash, holding your phone in front of

00:59:09.360 your face check the comments i have pinned another channel where we are posting these

00:59:15.620 now so you can watch your own villainous mawas while you're doing things

00:59:20.480 yeah indy do you know what this means you see that tree right behind you

00:59:28.500 beavers have been here right in there yeah you see the beaver

00:59:34.780 okay do you want to find a beaver is this beaver hunt time yeah

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Another Female Killer; Another Struggle to Punish Her： WHY？

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