Based Camp - Anti-Woke Movie Sneaks Past Media Execs to Smash Records (KPop Demon Hunters)

00:00:00.000 hello simone i am excited to be here with you today today we are going to discuss a movie

00:00:06.180 that will likely change the way films are produced globally and because it accidentally

00:00:12.380 snuck a bunch of christian themes and very intentionally a lot of people are like oh

00:00:16.800 it's accidental that christian themes got into this we'll go over it's not accidental that

00:00:20.200 a lot of anti-dei themes into the most like the biggest movie phenomenon of all time and

00:00:28.340 they say all time you might be like oh you know k-pop demon hunters was cute but like how big was

00:00:34.880 it exactly in in the last three months uh it has gotten more streams on its songs

00:00:42.000 than frozen has gotten on its songs in the 12 years since it was released no by a significant margin

00:00:50.000 oh my god what no demon hunters shattered expectations to be the most watched original

00:00:58.000 ever with 325 million views eclipsing red notice 236 million views in squid game season one

00:01:05.000 266 million views topping the charts in over 90 countries the soundtrack went platinum debuted at

00:01:14.220 number eight on the billboard of 200s and made history as the first with four simultaneous top

00:01:20.580 10 100 global hits deserved though they're catchy tunes was was golden number one it had your idol

00:01:28.780 number four soda pop number five and how it's done number 10 with golden alone top charts in the uk

00:01:36.480 with over a million units sold and a sing-along theatrical version grossing 19.2 million now that's

00:01:43.020 not as big a deal but hold on i want to i want to compare it to frozen here so since it's released

00:01:47.740 in terms of the number of streams that its songs have gotten they've gotten around 3.5 billion

00:01:52.580 streams okay frozen has gotten 2.5 to 3 billion over the past 12 years 12 years oh my god if you're

00:02:00.880 talking weekly streams the absolute peak for frozen was 50 million the peak for demon hunters was 141

00:02:09.500 million whoa not even close my my monthly listeners for demon hunters it peaked at 40 million for for

00:02:18.660 frozen it peaked at 20 million and the reason why this is so interesting to go over is because

00:02:23.860 a lot of people like are individually like i like k-pop demon hunters it was pretty cool and based

00:02:31.640 and then but it doesn't feel like a frozen right like no it's delightful it's fun there's there's

00:02:38.180 conflict there's issues but frozen is just like is is culturally we don't feel like we're in a frozen

00:02:44.120 moment like the fact that i can compare k-pop demon hunter to something like frozen and i'm like this

00:02:50.160 completely smashed frozen's numbers you can hear that as a person and be like but i thought that was

00:02:58.920 like my thing like like my private weird thing oh yeah everyone thinks it's like a little niche like

00:03:04.280 oh it's just this korean anime thing that i watched the only ones dying tonight are you i'm sorry what

00:03:12.480 your fans we're gonna eat your fans no no no no not our fans when you mess with our fans we need to

00:03:21.840 make it hurt oh yeah and like when you and i had to like we had to to sneak into my my dad's netflix

00:03:28.220 account ask him to give us temporary vacation traveling access and then just like i thought it

00:03:33.360 was it was going to be like oh like listed front page top 10 like here's our most success no we had

00:03:39.620 to search it it wasn't even listed in any of the like suggested free listings it's a deep cut but it's

00:03:45.060 not and and no this is a movie that doesn't have a single black person in it like in terms of like

00:03:50.620 it doesn't have a single white person in it they don't have a single white person in it either and i'm

00:03:54.280 not complaining they don't it shouldn't have a single white person no it's korean you go to 1.00

00:03:58.580 south korea you don't see that um you really don't see many white people in korea i lived there

00:04:03.400 for a while the the other thing that well we felt bad walking down the streets because we were just

00:04:07.580 bringing down the average attractiveness somebody told me that what if the people who we were

00:04:12.500 invested in actually told me that no i'm not you're beautiful they said i i broke up the social 0.97

00:04:18.120 harmony by looking like non with your ugly western face we just can't we can't hold a candle 0.97

00:04:24.120 i don't know what to say like korean people are just so beautiful if you go to streams per track 0.92

00:04:28.880 so for for k-pop demon hunters it was 300 million with versus 100 to 200 million for frozen if you

00:04:36.120 look at like individual songs here if you look at golden which was their their top one yeah you get

00:04:42.600 around 1 billion cumulative strings if you compare that with let it go this is this has gotten 800

00:04:49.380 million so i love that dude because let it go is all about victimhood narrative bed rotting giving

00:04:56.860 up we're shirking responsibility and golden is about reaching your potential it's about becoming

00:05:01.920 the best possible version of yourself was let it go because this this like actually let it go gets me

00:05:07.040 as a song because it was the perfect song of the tumblrina it was it was like i don't need one i have

00:05:14.140 been constantly vilified by the outside world when in reality her she was from a wealthy family who

00:05:20.920 was pretty supportive of her and she was the one who victimized herself her sister didn't force her to

00:05:28.000 stay in that room her sister i mean there's even a song like let's make a snowman i never see you

00:05:32.640 anymore come out the door i wish you would tell me why do you want to build a snowman

00:05:41.100 like let's yeah you know about her rejecting the people who were reaching out to her about her 0.96

00:05:53.780 self hurting people and the way that self-victimization hurt the people around her

00:05:59.140 who was the real her kingdom her entire kingdom her sister her kingdom and then when she lets it go

00:06:06.060 and indulges in her worst impulses she ends up causing everyone in the kingdom to suffer and starve 0.98

00:06:12.760 like mass famine and everything like that her sister to be scooped up by this creepy guy like 0.94

00:06:18.360 the the message in frozen is like incredibly bad um uh well the message people took from it the actual

00:06:25.760 message is that you shouldn't be that type of person and she's also the pretty vile person yeah 1.00

00:06:29.900 one would have hoped so so you've got that and then we'll talk about the theming in this what i

00:06:35.260 will note is i've got three because i was just looking like what do like mainstream christian blogs

00:06:39.980 because when i thought the thing that kept hitting me when i thought i was like this seems like

00:06:44.260 explicitly weird there were like weird moments in it where i was like this seems explicitly christian

00:06:52.700 in its narrative and for people who don't know south korea is the largest christian community

00:06:56.740 of any anywhere in asia it's it's gotta it's like a a mainstream very mainstream religion there

00:07:04.320 my my one south korean friend in in high school was also the only super christian person i knew

00:07:11.760 oh no i'll know we'll get to this narrative as well that we have this narrative that like

00:07:16.340 this sony sold it for like nothing and they sold the streaming rights for like nothing and they're

00:07:20.940 not so this is incorrect it's it's not real oh really no well so what really happened was is netflix

00:07:28.860 through sony did a deal where they would handle the funding of various projects if they got exclusive

00:07:37.200 rights to stream them this project was was greenlit and funded under this scheme there is no way it could

00:07:45.780 have gone to anyone but netflix and there's no way it could have gone out under any terms but the

00:07:52.160 terms that netflix negotiated with okay this makes sense because this is how the all the various

00:07:56.720 production firms that are shopping around content about us are doing it where they yeah because we have

00:08:01.720 the contact and then they go to the premium streaming platforms and they're like pay for pay us to

00:08:07.180 produce this and you'll get exclusive rights and so that that makes sense that seems to be how it's done

00:08:12.000 these days and so like what people are are acting like is like if sony was sitting on this gym they

00:08:18.120 could have chosen to go to the theaters whiz and stuff like that and it's like no from the moment it

00:08:22.480 was a concept netflix bankrolled it under a scheme with netflix the 100 million dollars that went to the

00:08:28.680 funding of this because that's how much it cost to make who was given by netflix at the outset like

00:08:33.500 how did it cost how does something cost that much netflix because it had a bunch of k-pop 1.00

00:08:39.140 title like top k-pop people oh okay so the singers are actually famous k-pop stars yeah a number of

00:08:45.160 them are actually famous k-pop artists oh my gosh oh i didn't know that the voices are great so that

00:08:50.400 makes sense but well and some of them are famous artists from other types of music as well you know

00:08:54.700 it's just the way movie music industry is but like christians are recognizing this so there's a there's

00:08:59.760 an article on like why this is so good from christian parenting there is the christian movie review was

00:09:04.660 like this is really good the my the miss pilgrim did a review of this that's that's that's like oh

00:09:11.080 this is really good you should watch this and in terms of the explicit christian influences which

00:09:15.380 which have been cited by people in the in the creative process uh somebody who goes sarah lee who

00:09:21.700 goes by eg ae is the she she wrote some of the songs for it k-pop demon hunters including traps like

00:09:28.340 your idol the one that you liked she said she was inspired by her christian faith she also provided

00:09:33.680 the singing voice for the main character roomie and she collaborated with some teams so her

00:09:37.980 grandfather's shin young kun is a renowned south korean actor and film producer who has starred in

00:09:44.780 around 96 movies but he is also a devout christian who runs the ae chong dong entertainment church

00:09:52.200 in seoul and he's he's around 100 years old so he's a very famous christian guy who runs their church

00:09:59.300 they made the characters look a lot like their voice actors like the the guy who voiced genu like

00:10:06.220 that that smile the eyes look a little different but the smile's that wow and and they've admitted

00:10:12.000 this as well so if you look at interviews she's had so in an interview she had was variety in june

00:10:16.760 2025 she says specifically about the song your idol as a christian i have always been mindful of the

00:10:22.780 biblical warning against idolatry making gods out of people or things in k-pop we literally call our

00:10:27.600 artists idols and that can be an unhealthy obsession and worship for fans i wanted your idol to suddenly

00:10:33.080 caution against that reminding listeners true fulfillment comes from facing god blah blah blah

00:10:37.480 blah literally that like like literally the the parts of the plot structure and songs were inspired

00:10:44.700 by christianity and where i started to realize that myself as i was going through it and people can be

00:10:50.380 like well then why not do a song that's like specifically about christianity or something like

00:10:54.380 that or a movie that's explicitly about that and i would point out that that's actually idolatry

00:10:58.580 many christian faiths historically were very against and i and i think rightly so against 1.00

00:11:04.680 literally acting out christian iconography so i would argue it's actually a more faithful rendition to

00:11:11.080 act it out with what's the word here sort of metaphor so when i was watching it the thing that got

00:11:16.020 me when i first noticed it and i mentioned this in another episode i was like wait the demons are bad

00:11:21.700 like i have got well they don't even like being demons that's that's what's so crazy well this was

00:11:27.540 one thing that got me is in so many things like the demons are given power in hell based on how bad

00:11:34.200 they were on earth like you murder a bunch of people like it has been hotel has this system and i'm like

00:11:38.800 that's horrible like so like it learned like it's like one of you know satan's top generals so they'll

00:11:44.640 say something like that and i'm like that that seems like the inverse of the way we would want

00:11:49.180 this means that if you're gonna do a bad thing you need to do the worst possible bad thing so at

00:11:54.160 least when you get to hell you have like a decent upper middle management position yeah you don't

00:11:59.020 want to be a peon like if you're just kind of bad then you're like frontline service position in hell

00:12:04.580 you don't want that you know or you're like at the whipping post i don't know like yeah that means

00:12:09.280 an alternate direction with this which is most demons are they do not appear to come from humans but

00:12:17.700 the demons that do come from humans that are bad really do not like their existence like this is

00:12:23.500 a very unpleasant thing for them yeah but in addition to that they are also bad yeah like

00:12:30.540 legit bad like actually oh my gosh bad yeah like okay so people who don't know this if you see a

00:12:37.020 spoiler for something it statistically increases your enjoyment of the movie watching experience yeah

00:12:42.020 try to tell that to your brother yeah try telling this to my brother but this is a study that's been

00:12:46.200 done so you can skip like 15 seconds if you don't want to hear his brother if you're listening and

00:12:50.220 you haven't yet watched k-pop demon hunters first what are you doing second spoiler alert

00:12:54.420 the subversion that you find out is the character who you think is you know at going to

00:13:02.500 turn on on the demons and who actually has a good side to him he was just lying he was actually bad

00:13:10.060 yeah yeah he lied about his he lied about his background and kind of pretended that he was trying to

00:13:13.900 like save his mother and little sister and no no he just totally screwed them over and they probably

00:13:18.720 died it's implied that they died yeah starved to death while he became famous and wealthy and

00:13:24.940 everything else he lived in the palace and everything like that and then he does have a a last minute

00:13:30.740 turnaround to try to you know save the heroine but it's not like a oh and he's secretly been good

00:13:37.640 all along he has the last minute turnaround in in the in the context of a movie was in a system that

00:13:45.280 and this is true of the the the plot lines throughout the movie that it's a movie that is very much about

00:13:51.660 confession yeah and owning your sins yeah and taking responsibility for your sins yeah rather than

00:13:59.980 about shirking your sins and about attempting to uh hide the things that in your life that you think

00:14:08.680 make you sinful or bad from other people instead of taking responsibility for them that's like the

00:14:15.240 central theming of the movie and then the theming of the powers of the movie is idolatry when you give

00:14:20.520 your attention to things that are only designed to consume your attention that these things end up

00:14:28.440 producing negative externalities yeah and we got an email from a fan that i thought was was pretty

00:14:33.380 fun about this where he just goes over like a number of base things in it so i'll just read it

00:14:37.640 so zero diversity not one character not in one single frame even at zoe's burbank high school who isn't

00:14:45.420 ethnically asian maliciousness and disguised cynicism slash infiltration from hostile groups is actually bad 0.96

00:14:53.040 in fact selene and rumi's motivating fear is that rumi will be mistakenly perceived to be

00:14:59.540 a hostile or out group infiltrator now this i also found pretty interesting and somebody pointed out as

00:15:05.860 well uh that one thing that this did really well is women where they're like i was so shocked at the 0.99

00:15:12.900 beginning of a movie that women were like doing makeup and like gossiping and being girly like they're 1.00

00:15:21.840 doing the whole fighting thing but in more like a totally spies type of way and oh yeah they're

00:15:28.180 being badass but they're yeah they're brushing their hair they're putting on makeup and they're also like

00:15:31.760 speed eating noodles yum yeah so they're being like burping and everything like that like they're being

00:15:37.900 sort of like a gross and everything like that but also authentically female and i and you can be like

00:15:43.200 well isn't this bad and i'd contrast it with the western female hero archetype that we've seen

00:15:48.360 which is uh you know your ren from whatever her name is like it's a lady from star wars that they 1.00

00:15:54.360 oh kylo ren's the the bad guy who's the woman from star wars ray ray ray and like you'd never see ray

00:16:01.180 doing her oh yeah she would never you know yeah be like choosing outfits and and putting on makeup and

00:16:07.660 also like ogling six packs on guys yeah ogling guys or like you you just wouldn't see that but it's

00:16:15.400 it's shown from the very first scene when they're in this like airplane and they get into a fight

00:16:20.040 with demons on the airplane and they jump out of the airplane and are like doing their makeup while

00:16:23.820 they're like they're they're they're portrayed as women like very very feminine in a way that

00:16:31.220 hollywood has clearly yeah they they like to look pretty they they love cool clothing they love food

00:16:51.040 in that classic like anime beautiful woman way where they eat a ton of food but never get 0.99

00:16:56.520 and they find hot men hot oh my gosh what's cool about this is it isn't a subversion of feminism 0.99

00:17:04.260 it's a subversion of the form of feminism that just wanted to make women look better than men and 1.00

00:17:11.340 perfect it's saying we don't morally superior yeah we don't need to hold women to this standard of

00:17:17.720 you know they never burp they never eat they never have any flaws but that doesn't mean we need to

00:17:25.380 strip them of character and strip them of you know wanting to preem themselves and wanting to look

00:17:31.200 pretty and wanting to be girly they can be girly and fight and they can take pride in the ways that

00:17:38.460 they're girly while they are still like impactful actors in society oh yeah they always wanted to do

00:17:44.240 like a spa day but who doesn't do like things together it's very yeah so then the next thing he

00:17:50.100 says here is every single authority figure in in k-pop demon hunters is earnest well-meaning and

00:17:55.260 legitimate there is no enemy within no good guy who we find out is really working for the bad guy

00:18:00.600 bobby is 100 on side without question so mira zoe and rumi don't have a quote-unquote rebel rebel

00:18:08.180 against anything there's no white man in charge no secondary in league with the bad guy who has to be

00:18:13.980 found out and overthrown and this is really like weird like i'm not used to this i'm not used to like

00:18:18.160 there's no corporate evil guy it's not that the k-pop industry is destroying these people 0.74

00:18:23.500 their manager is never anything but like chill and helpful to them yeah it's not that capitalism is

00:18:29.660 bad which also is so common and everything that comes out of western media now and they could have

00:18:34.960 made it like men bad right like but but because they didn't see it that way given that the male boy

00:18:41.100 band is the bad boy band but a few things to note about that they made their manager like their direct

00:18:47.200 boss a guy who's just sweet and helpful and it's in the movie for i think more talking scenes than

00:18:53.980 the bad guy boy band bad guy boy band is also not like so often when you have like the men right like

00:19:01.640 the men of barbie or something like that right they are depicted as in a woke shows you have evil male

00:19:08.460 group they are depicted as like incompetent or wanting to victimize women because they're women

00:19:14.100 or you know any of those things and you don't you don't have any of that here from no one first time

00:19:19.380 they meet them they're like this these people it's even like a whole joke scene is like oh they're

00:19:24.220 they're actually quite good and catchy and and i like what they're doing right yeah and it's never

00:19:29.360 like oh they they and like gender never even comes up like even though it's an all-girl band versus

00:19:34.320 an all-boy band that's more just along the tropes of k-pop not along like anything like that but

00:19:40.620 anyway okay so i thought that was an interesting point and then he says note here while out on the

00:19:45.780 street demon shopping the three individually rescue a man or boy we only been rescuing women and girls

00:19:52.760 and he says run it back and see for yourself they obviously save the whole world in the end which

00:19:58.800 includes everyone male and female but it's still an interesting choice something about not wanting the

00:20:03.840 three to come off as emasculating that's really interesting in hollywood it's always underappreciated

00:20:08.900 girl bossing and doofus male lead and so that's also really important here i will note his thing

00:20:15.160 about no authority figures being bad there is one authority figure who's seen as bad who's who's

00:20:20.340 sort of the person who thinks that she just needs to hide all of her sin mother or well her adoptive

00:20:26.060 mother the mother who thinks she needs to hide all her sin and i'm like yeah but that's also not like

00:20:32.160 you know i don't see that as as like necessarily a bad message there to being like well you you should

00:20:38.180 opt to this stuff and she also explicitly rejects that world like she's like i don't want to be part

00:20:45.540 of a world where i interact with people and my friends through uh covering up the things that are

00:20:54.480 bad about myself i want to confess those things and overcome them but in no way in this is sin ever

00:21:00.700 seen as a good thing right like in in the show which i thought was very interesting because that's so rare

00:21:05.060 you watch our view about which i actually think the great one about turning red which is like

00:21:09.540 literally about being a prostitute like and i mean like it is if you haven't watched turning red it is 0.94

00:21:17.640 it is shocking to me so so the movie it is very clear turning into a panda is about her sexuality like 0.64

00:21:24.800 this this reference is drawn very explicitly it's about going through puberty and previous generations

00:21:29.520 of asians this seems like an asian culture things have learned to suppress their sexuality 0.98

00:21:33.740 and she doesn't want to and so what does she do she comes up with a system to see a boy band where she 0.99

00:21:41.680 sells pictures of the thing that represents her sexuality and then eventually sells her sexuality to 0.92

00:21:48.260 the boy who she hates most so she can get the money for the boy band and this is all played as like

00:21:53.760 a good thing and i was like whoa disney what were you thinking with this like this is explicit man

00:22:01.420 so and then he points out here which i hadn't thought about but he's right here he says note

00:22:06.320 how rumi never defeats jinnu this is the male villain who ends up turning good at the end that we were

00:22:10.900 talking about he rescues her twice but along the way he never submits to her obeys her or follows her

00:22:19.060 he passes on all of her s tests where he talks about it he says watch yourself and note how it

00:22:25.620 therefore feels right to us that rooming is increasingly fascinated by and concerned for

00:22:31.380 jinnu jinnu skillfully and consistently not obeying roomie draws them together oh he says he likes how

00:22:37.940 malcolm constantly interrupts corromps simone correct so i don't interrupt you i do i i guess i do

00:22:43.120 the audience is very split on this like half are like why would malcolm ever interrupt simone the other

00:22:48.840 half is like malcolm needs to interrupt so he goes into the no gay or tranny stuff which is true like 1.00

00:22:54.980 nothing in this is remotely and they could have gone in that direction right like this is an american

00:22:59.040 thing it's three girls working together one of them is gonna have to be gay right like they just would 1.00

00:23:03.880 have to be right like i i would be shocked if they weren't so so that was very noticeable in the

00:23:09.680 story he goes on here about how like this is a continuation of 500 years of age in history and

00:23:15.200 they do a good job with this of i think capturing both korea's christian roots and its traditional

00:23:21.920 this is the other thing is hollywood has been going out there for ages and being like look we can't make

00:23:25.640 something new every time we try to make something new at bombs look at elo or whatever where they

00:23:29.220 tried to make a 12 year old boy gay and i was like oh that's so creepy but anyway like why did

00:23:35.540 is that the gay mermaid one elo is the one in in space you're thinking bruno i was thinking of luco

00:23:43.260 here where like the characters also have like super gay vibes the mermaid one yeah that's bruno elo is

00:23:51.580 the one or elliot or something i don't know it's the one that just came out about space and just

00:23:56.200 completely bombed and everyone's like well you have to go see it because it's like novel and it's like

00:23:59.580 no like they they tried to do something creepy with this and like everyone involved with that like

00:24:04.300 like i'm not against gay people anybody who watches this channel is i'm not against gay people

00:24:08.860 i'm against depicting a 12 year old is gay like that's iffy okay you're you're against gay 12 year 0.99

00:24:16.900 olds we see your bigotry now it's plain for all to see that sexual oh yeah no you just you just hate 0.94

00:24:23.300 gay 12 year olds to be a major part of a plot about a 12 year old by the way before the movie 0.80

00:24:29.080 came out and everyone's saying that's why it's so bad because they they cut like a central theme of

00:24:33.500 it out i was like no it's obviously going to be bad anyway if you thought that that was an interesting

00:24:37.320 plot line what we what i was interested in was the aliens and stuff right but the point is is you get

00:24:43.160 into this and immediately again from the beginning of it you can see that it is new but actually new

00:24:50.260 right like you look at elliot or whatever this new one is and everyone's got bean mouse it's all

00:24:54.360 the cow art style but you know this american stuff bean mouth look up bean mouse mark or cow i think

00:25:01.180 it's cow something style uh art it's the art that you have in steven universe that it's the art that

00:25:09.520 you had in turning red no i did i loved the unique styling of k-pop demon hunters too that it didn't

00:25:16.040 it didn't actually feel like they were copying anyone it felt like its own thing yeah no it felt

00:25:19.980 well it felt very pretty inspiration even if you think about like the designs of the monsters you

00:25:25.320 immediately see these monsters and you're like oh this isn't like monsters i've seen before it's

00:25:31.260 it's building on history but i hadn't like that's unique and interesting and they're also very

00:25:36.160 memeable there's already been amazing cosplays of the monster cat so great yeah yeah but so so

00:25:42.720 immediately i see the way that they're stylized i'm like this is unique i see the way that the the

00:25:48.360 art style is done and i'm like this is unique i see the way that they've tried to like world build

00:25:54.220 to not have the typical oh you know the whatever betrayal scene and everything like that i'm like

00:25:59.720 oh this is unique yeah you know and they actually there must be some german word for that unique

00:26:04.660 feeling of like both stress and boredom that you feel when you kind of know the plot point of a movie

00:26:09.780 and you're like oh i don't want to go through this one i don't like this one you know what i mean

00:26:13.100 of like oh there's going to be this betrayal or this this tension and here's a you know love

00:26:18.120 triangle and you're like i don't want to do this you know that feeling this didn't have that i love

00:26:21.840 yeah yeah so i i thought that this was one like is hollywood going to learn from this like is hollywood

00:26:30.220 going to change what they're doing in relation to this is hollywood like what's what's your take do

00:26:36.480 you think that they have the capacity to look at how i mean disney is basically going but i guess i

00:26:41.880 can already answer yes they will and here's how i know they will okay because you know friend of

00:26:47.500 the show obviously because we've had her her little sister on a few times suzy weiss is is a friend of 0.99

00:26:51.940 ours barry weiss who used to run the free press she recently took over cnn right like yes yes like 0.67

00:26:59.600 that to me shows like oh boy like a deep recognition that the old model and the old ways are failing

00:27:08.040 yeah like we need to i mean barry if you don't know barry weiss is seen as like a demon by these

00:27:14.180 people now she's a lefty she's like a lesbian manhattanite jew right and she lives in la 1.00

00:27:18.860 she lives in la i said she lived in manhattan no she lives in la

00:27:22.380 but she's also questions the trans narrative and questions dei culture

00:27:28.660 also into that like centrist heterodox zone which is where sane people sit and she produced the what

00:27:36.360 was it the witch hunt of of jk rowling which trouse of yeah the witch trouse of jk rowling um which i

00:27:42.600 thought i thought was was great if this was also true with the contract but so i can go over a little

00:27:48.880 bit if you're interested in the the streaming rights issue i don't really need to go over this

00:27:52.780 basically what happened is is that during the pandemic sony signed on this to get a stream of

00:27:58.260 continued revenue for its movie department so k-pop demon hunters began production during the pandemic 0.96

00:28:03.620 yeah wow so this took a long time to make all right that's when the deal happened that led to its

00:28:12.500 creation that may not have been when it actually started oh hold on i can just come up when it because

00:28:17.960 i i i noted here it was in 2018 when it was first pitched wow in in the woman who did it the last

00:28:26.320 movie she had done was the lego ninjago movie so you know they hurt ninja go ninjago yeah the lego

00:28:34.340 ninjago movie just exploded out of nowhere that's that's fun no so a bunch of people's and and by the

00:28:40.560 way people are like well sony got nothing for this oh my god do you remember that lego restaurant we

00:28:45.040 went to in seoul oh yeah that was cool i gotta find what we i'll see if i can find pictures so i

00:28:50.120 can put them up gosh korea is so great but sony still has the rights to this well i also saw like

00:28:56.680 the designs of the outfits of the male villains in like the last scene when they're in the traditional

00:29:02.080 korean outfits it was really on point i was like that is it looks good in villainous the other thing

00:29:09.660 that's also interesting about the the sort of character that's portrayed as like satan in this

00:29:15.300 is it is not humanized it's a very clear whenever you see it the distant voice you're not meant to

00:29:22.720 like it you're it's not meant to be funny or cute it's just bad it's not funny it's not cute it has

00:29:29.460 no redeeming qualities but it isn't bad in the way that disney makes demons bad you know so consider

00:29:37.080 like hades disney disney honestly makes the the the naughty characters in disney films

00:29:43.640 are largely treasured and loved and and and they become beloved characters people dress up as and

00:29:50.220 they buy the merch you don't buy merch of this big bad yeah bad bad guys are bad guys instead of like

00:29:57.480 oh bad guys maybe good or yeah well he's very flashy and fun and and and and like mean to his

00:30:05.220 underlings you know you have that whole trope of like the that almost sort of belittles the character

00:30:09.300 i call it like captain planet syndrome where like if you consider hades the way he treats his

00:30:14.340 underlings like kicking them around and everything like that is very you know like i think it sort of

00:30:19.900 belittles him as a character it makes him look like incompetent and like evil is not actually

00:30:24.060 competent evil is not actually something that is going to be tempting to you where in in this the big

00:30:30.160 bad is way closer if i was going to give it to a disney villain way closer to the original enchantress

00:30:37.700 from uh which which one is that the one where she's just the enchantress turns into like a crow or 0.67

00:30:43.840 whatever she's just like bad she's not like funny bad she's white where she turns into a witch 1.00

00:30:51.480 and then a dragon was there one before that yeah maybe snow white is what i'm thinking of yeah

00:30:58.420 maleficent's pretty bad but she's also one of the most beloved oh she's she's a really great

00:31:05.480 she's a really great bad character um in in in disneyland like the best character actress 0.97

00:31:11.660 in the disneyland parks is maleficent oh really she she just walks around insulting people and it's 0.99

00:31:18.220 amazing yeah that's that's fantastic yeah she's like and like you have to be really smart to be

00:31:23.760 her character actress because people will like try to shout and like heckle and she'll just burn them 1.00

00:31:29.820 it's amazing that is that's the thing it's like in disney again yeah they elevate and make them

00:31:34.120 fairly beloved and yeah that's that's not well i mean you see this more with recent i mean

00:31:38.460 i want to ask you like did is netflix not like intentionally not emphasizing this show like

00:31:45.540 that really confused so they didn't they didn't know it was going to become a success like this

00:31:49.600 and now the algorithm sort of handling itself right like uh i i think that the the next iteration of

00:31:55.600 this may have a lot of hollywood meddling we'll see because you know obviously they're going to

00:31:59.320 make sequels sony still owns a sequel rights so they can they can make a sequel if they want to

00:32:03.800 and also note here that like we see the messages coming out of hollywood and disney getting like

00:32:08.920 increasingly bad i didn't want to do a whole video on it but wish has like the worst message

00:32:15.680 ever oh you mean the moral the moral imperatives presented by movies the

00:32:21.000 the moralizations in wish if you haven't seen it which is one of the recent disney movies

00:32:25.620 they're supposed to be like their tent pale movie that like it's where the song make a wish comes from

00:32:32.460 from like the disney parks and everything oh they were trying to do that okay yeah they were trying to

00:32:36.740 like make that the central song of the show to make it like the central disney thing and it was about

00:32:43.720 a kingdom that a magician created and you could come to the kingdom it was completely you know up to

00:32:48.920 you and what you had to do is you had to give him your wishes and then he would may give you your wish

00:32:56.000 back later in life right but he didn't give the wish back to everyone and when confronted about this

00:33:00.980 he's just like and and everybody like clearly likes this kingdom like it's a clearly functional

00:33:05.240 good place and it's even mentioned in a song that he houses them all for free in this kingdom

00:33:09.720 right so so what's his big thing is that he thinks that giving everyone every wish that they wanted

00:33:16.880 would be irresponsible yeah which is accurate and this is worse like deposing him and ruining his life

00:33:25.560 and everything he built that is but it's such like a progressive message give me whatever i want

00:33:31.640 now or i'm going to destroy your your life you know affirm me for whatever i want to believe about 0.91

00:33:36.880 myself affirm whatever one of crazy thoughts i have like that's obviously super super toxic it was

00:33:42.940 funny about the movie is if you look at the wishes that he's holding back right like they all are the

00:33:49.080 wishes he's holding one looks like it was somebody like conquering something now you don't know if he's

00:33:53.820 conquering a mountain or another country right like another the grandfather's wish which this story

00:33:58.400 hinges around is he wants to be an inspiration to the kids but an inspiration to do what right like

00:34:03.380 it is like oh he just wants to be witnessed basically yes it's basically witnessing he just

00:34:08.560 want he does the grandfather does end up inspiring the kids through wanting his wish to rebel and

00:34:14.380 overthrow a benevolent kingdom like clearly that's not a good wish right like i think that the and it's a

00:34:21.260 fairly selfish wish as well you know to the witness me wish you know i i think that very obviously not

00:34:29.960 all wishes are good right like i i don't even understand like this is something that like media

00:34:35.280 and like back to like bruce almighty or whatever like granting all the wishes and then it causing all

00:34:40.300 these problems right like i'll just grant all prayers like whitelist all prayers there's a reason you

00:34:44.380 don't do that right like and socially and through media we used to understand this like this was

00:34:51.920 delivered to us and we would see these things and we'd be like ah well that's like the story of x

00:34:56.620 and that's why you can't just grant everyone's wishes and disney is like literally no no self-control

00:35:03.220 at all everybody get what they want now it was also really interesting about wish and about a lot of

00:35:09.100 disney movies recently is is people have analyzed this in more detail and i may as well there isn't

00:35:13.840 generally a single good straight male character they're all depicted as potentially willing to

00:35:20.720 backstab you or doofuses or in some other way villainous right and it's just shocking to me

00:35:28.320 that you could have that right like it's it's it's that hollywood could have gotten away with this for

00:35:35.400 this long and i really hope that this wakes up the industry and we see some systemic changes in the

00:35:39.680 industry in relation to this because now they are actually hemorrhaging it should give us hope that

00:35:44.380 people are turning to a movie that has hopeful self-empowering take responsibility kind of message

00:35:50.020 of like i'm going to reach my potential i'm going to own my faults i'm not going to hide things i'm

00:35:55.680 going to work hard that's that's good i mean that that market driven forces are showing that people

00:36:00.940 are leaning into messages that are not so toxic is a great sign and that that go wrote go woke go broke

00:36:07.600 is a pattern is also a really good sign that people don't they don't buy into those more toxic

00:36:12.300 moralizations that you're talking about and i would say that the movies that have done well

00:36:16.400 that disney's put out also don't have as toxic of moral stories like i don't actually remember what

00:36:22.200 the moralization of encanto was it was kind of the opposite it was like well you don't get your wish

00:36:27.160 because i don't think she ever came away encanto was a fairly i just thought encanto was a good movie

00:36:31.720 across it was delightful and it was one of the it's the only disney movie i know of that like

00:36:35.520 a lot of our friends that we really enjoyed and it it didn't have like any super toxic moralization

00:36:42.780 it also didn't have any strong male characters that weren't doofuses i mean bruno was just a

00:36:48.080 sort of screwed up mentally ill person yeah it was always getting injured yeah it had problems but 0.94

00:36:54.820 also it was one of the less toxic ones so what i'm saying is in the end as much as as progressive 0.96

00:37:01.100 culture has taken over hollywood and other really powerful institutions like academia

00:37:05.020 people in general are are reasonable and like inspiring messages and and and are are leaning

00:37:16.140 into healthier narratives and i appreciate that this is the thing that gets me about this and i think

00:37:21.800 it's one of the most shocking things about this is you watch the movie like i watched the movie i was

00:37:26.500 like yeah that was a good solid movie right i didn't i didn't come away like being like oh that

00:37:31.700 was the movie of the century or anything like that i was just like yeah you know what sometimes we just

00:37:36.560 need to have fun malcolm interesting about this and i because my kids have really liked it like they

00:37:42.280 like watching the songs thank goodness yeah yeah but i had thought of it as just our family thing

00:37:48.360 right like and i didn't realize that this had captured the public to the level of oh yeah no so i was the

00:37:56.180 one i had i had seen a bunch of youtube commentary already on k-pop demon hunters and i was like

00:38:00.120 malcolm you've got to watch this like we have to watch this for cultural literacy which is why i

00:38:04.300 struggled so so much to get netflix account access without paying for it but you were like oh i heard

00:38:10.380 this bombed i heard this and you thought it was a complete failure of a movie that no one's ever heard

00:38:15.040 of and so yeah that really that's telling no but i mean even after seeing it the point i'm making

00:38:20.140 is like hollywood you don't need to make the greatest thing ever anymore if you just make

00:38:26.220 something that's based and interesting you're you're gonna get a lot of viewers right like

00:38:31.240 the the thing is is we you know we were looking at doing a documentary and we we probably blew it up

00:38:36.420 like the one that we had with a major studio because we were like i will not work with this

00:38:39.360 director because she was so woke it was just like completely intolerable and i knew that whatever

00:38:43.940 she made was going to bop because she clearly couldn't connect with was like average people 0.99

00:38:49.260 right like she could connect with like award shows and stuff like that but it was clear

00:38:52.500 she wasn't going to be able to create something that would perform in the current media environment

00:38:56.560 and i was like i don't want to make something if it's gonna bop right like i don't i don't need to do

00:39:01.300 that right and i think that that you just need to have like the most basic level of competence

00:39:07.500 in terms of putting these things together to create like one of the greatest hits

00:39:12.180 of like the past decade or i mean technically ever for a streaming site right like and it shows how

00:39:19.100 starved the public is and so you know get out there and make based media guys yeah let's do it

00:39:25.480 no i think this is great this is also an indication of the so if i if i have takeaways from this basically

00:39:31.380 we're seeing another sign of a surge in more traditional based in christian culture as indicated by

00:39:41.220 the rampant and amazing success of k-pop demon hunters which has christian messages and generally

00:39:49.920 pretty like based plot and that's good yeah i like it well i love you to death simone i am so excited

00:39:56.660 for the bulgogi tonight speaking of korean bulldog bulldog bulldog bulldog we're doing bulldog tonight

00:40:01.820 and if you haven't had bulldog i would suggest it so yeah bulldog is is basically it's it's it's korean

00:40:06.860 fire chicken i mean so here's the problem is there's it's going to confuse people because

00:40:10.580 there's no like bulldog sauce like it's just spicy so what what we're making is basically it's

00:40:15.440 teppanyaki no not teppanyaki is a totally different japanese dish it's to toboki it's it's those it's

00:40:22.420 those thick korean rice noodle things sauteed and then you add to it basically chicken heavily marinated

00:40:31.420 in jung sauce mixed with sugar and a couple other spices and then to that malcolm also prefers that

00:40:39.120 we add enoki mushrooms all of that is then broiled in an oven under a layer of mozzarella cheese

00:40:46.100 so it's almost like a spicy chicken crust pizza and it's delicious yeah well if you're comparing it to

00:40:54.240 a pizza the the fried rice sticks take the place of the the dough teoboki i don't someone tell us

00:41:02.520 how to yeah tell us how to genetically they are fantastic when compared to well you don't get the

00:41:09.020 same crunch you would have with a pizza but you get a lot more sort of uniformity throughout the dish

00:41:13.760 and i think that the flavor is well it's also a little sweeter and spicier than a pizza yeah because

00:41:18.960 i think you add but at least the recipe that i use i think has both honey and brown sugar in it

00:41:23.040 yeah it's it's actually it's sweet and spicy but then the cheese on top i think also you so that

00:41:29.080 what cuts through the sweetness and the spiciness is the mozzarella cheese on top it's all melted

00:41:34.360 today we're gonna try and get this half cheddar because we're out of mozzarella well we're low

00:41:37.940 we're extremely low on mozzarella so we're gonna yeah half cheddar half half who knows though i think

00:41:42.180 the cheddar could be interesting i think the cheddar could be really good i mean i prefer cheddar to

00:41:45.700 mozzarella i always think of mozzarella as being like very you know not not quite spicy so we're doing

00:41:50.960 korean when when the koreans are gone we will eat some of your food you know when you're extinct 1.00

00:41:55.360 we'll we'll be like this is what korea was like before they went extinct from low fertility rates

00:42:00.860 so sad all right i'm gonna go get the noodles and start the bull duck i love you very much

00:42:06.440 love you too okay oh god i'm gonna hit end recording all right i was listening to the songs from this again

00:42:16.860 and i i love the the demon one where they're trying to be evil because i just hear it and it's so

00:42:24.780 romantic of like there's a lyric of something like i'm the only one who loves your sins and that is so

00:42:31.460 romantic because it's what you do with me you you know she believes i love her failings not her actual

00:42:36.540 sin you love my sins well yeah my yeah my feelings but then you're like a heart you harness my demons and

00:42:42.080 you turn them into like she means like being autistic not like actual flaws but the things

00:42:48.540 society judges her for that she shouldn't judge herself for they were always framed to me in my

00:42:54.640 childhood as things that i should try to hide and be ashamed of and mask and you were like no let's

00:42:59.500 use this and i love that you're like let's unholster your autism i what i love is you don't have any

00:43:05.740 actual like flaws you know you don't have you have to deal with them all the time but you're just

00:43:13.040 being the perfect person right now you're not like drawn towards sloth or you know sexual

00:43:18.700 i don't have like a gambling habit at least or something no but like of like actual sins you you

00:43:25.200 you don't have any addictions you don't you're not a spindy person you're not a addicted to our kids

00:43:31.620 i'm gonna take it to you idolatrous person you're not a yeah you're just you're very dedicated to

00:43:37.120 your family you had all these things that you thought were bad about yourself because everyone

00:43:40.760 had always told you that they were bad and i was like you know maybe we could just lean into that 0.96

00:43:45.880 like f f everyone else i don't mind that you you know weigh all your food i i want a skinny hot wife 1.00

00:43:51.640 okay i know other people said that's weird to do at a restaurant and i'm like well we don't have to

00:43:57.600 go to restaurants anymore sweetheart i'm so glad we don't go to restaurants anymore i oh gosh i have

00:44:04.160 to share with you that video on how basically cisco provides a ton of restaurants and you're eating the

00:44:09.340 same frozen food at a bunch of different restaurants across the united states be it in

00:44:13.640 nashville or alaska so it makes so much sense it explains so much

00:44:18.800 hey captain look at the snail look at the snail to send us actually i'm feeling stuff in this book

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Based Camp - October 23, 2025

Anti-Woke Movie Sneaks Past Media Execs to Smash Records (KPop Demon Hunters)

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