Based Camp - Nick Fuentes Fan Girls & Female Gooner Trends

00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I'm so excited to be speaking with you today because we are going to dive deep into Nick Fuentes' fangirls. They are out there.

00:00:09.640 Hold on, hold on. We've got to be clear about what this community is. This is not girls who like the ideology of Nick Fuentes.

00:00:16.920 This is a community of women that writes fan fiction about being like Nick Fuentes in weird sexual scenarios, except they hate Nick Fuentes.

00:00:27.200 Oh, no, no, no. They don't hate him. They just, they're apolitical. I'll give you an example. You want a clip from some fan fiction?

00:00:35.720 Yes.

00:00:36.300 So you can choose.

00:00:37.640 It's more like he has replaced the monster in the monster effer category of like women fiction.

00:00:43.760 He hasn't replaced it. He's just a different version of it and we'll get into it, but I'll give you an excerpt from one, just the opening. You can choose one.

00:00:50.800 There's Kiss Under the Maga Sunset, which basically is Nick Fuentes confessing to Candace Owens and they start dating.

00:00:57.780 Or you can get a little bit of Nick Fuentes falls in love with a hijabi woman.

00:01:02.760 We'll do the hijabi woman.

00:01:04.700 All right.

00:01:05.860 Nick first saw you about to cross the road and what a sight it was.

00:01:09.540 A beautiful girl, pretty in a way that made him pause, though clearly not the Catholic faith.

00:01:13.980 No, no, that scarf of yours gave it away. Light blue and neatly pinned in place, matching your sweater and your jeans.

00:01:21.540 And what are the chances that this is the very first time he'd lay eyes on a hijabi woman, a Muslim girl, and not just anyone, but one that made him think, however reluctantly, of the word beautiful.

00:01:33.800 And of course, being who he was, he had to stop you.

00:01:36.920 Hey, we're placing these stickers on a map to let us know where everyone's from, he said, smiling the smile he used on strangers, handing you a slip of paper like it was the most important thing in the world.

00:01:48.540 You shuffled the things in your hands, trying to get a grip, notebooks, some kind of folder, and of all things, a chocolate ice lolly, which already told him you must have been hot.

00:01:56.920 Not that it surprised him, since you weren't really dressed for the weather in September, it decided to be cruel.

00:02:01.880 You pressed your sticker onto the map, and he peered at it with curiosity. He couldn't quite disguise.

00:02:07.280 Nepal? No, no, not Nepal. Afghanistan. Afghanistan, of all places.

00:02:12.080 And suddenly, the shape of you sharpened in his mind, because here was an Afghan girl, and not just anyone, but with the kind of beauty he had only read about in forums and dark corners of the internet, rumors given form.

00:02:24.520 And it struck him, rather guiltily, that he'd spent so much time online, tearing your country to shreds, and yet here you were in front of him, smiling faintly, and it unsettled him.

00:02:35.920 Oh my gosh.

00:02:37.380 A little taste. A little taste.

00:02:39.140 Now, women love enemies to lovers. They love, you know.

00:02:42.920 There's a lot of gay slashes. There's a lot of enemies to lovers.

00:02:46.520 Simone was complaining to me about how deep this community was. She's like, this is not, like, a joke thing, right? Like, these people are seriously both into this and invested in this.

00:02:57.900 Yeah, and we'll get into some of that commentary, because this is also interesting. There's sort of like this, there's the interest of the actual community, and then there's sort of the meta story around it.

00:03:06.980 I think both are really notable, and people should know about both.

00:03:09.940 And so this is important.

00:03:11.840 Interesting to study in terms of understanding female psychology.

00:03:17.640 And that's why we're going to start, if you'll let me, Malcolm, because I outlined this episode.

00:03:21.760 Oh, so I don't even get to talk about the gay rumors, because people are probably like, well, don't you know, he's actually gay.

00:03:26.560 You get to go into those later when we discuss shipping, Malcolm.

00:03:29.480 Okay, we'll go into those when we discuss shipping.

00:03:31.340 Your turn is your turn.

00:03:32.480 I do want to give a hat tip to you, but also not Aldous Huxley, who both sent to me the shoe-on-head video about the female Gooner trend,

00:03:45.220 in which she invested her valuable time in reading the now very notable romance novel book known as Morning Glory Milking Farm,

00:03:55.080 in which a student debt-burdened millennial has to get a job in big pharma, not by working as a pharmaceutical saleswoman,

00:04:08.480 but by milking a senator whose milk, as it were, is used to make basically a form of Viagra.

00:04:17.960 Except the thing she has to milk is so big, she has to use both hands.

00:04:22.260 It's a whole thing.

00:04:23.840 He's a Democrat who said he would have voted for Obama three times if he could, and he's a staunch feminist ally.

00:04:30.740 Yeah.

00:04:31.520 They go into this a lot, and very, very fun.

00:04:34.760 Yeah, to be clear, this is about a romance between a woman and a senator, except the woman has student debt and hates working in big pharma,

00:04:41.900 and the senator has this whole backstory where he's divorced, because you can tell by his septum piercing, he used to be married.

00:04:52.120 He used to be married, yeah.

00:04:52.620 Mm-hmm, yeah.

00:04:53.460 This book has 21,435 reviews at the time of recording.

00:04:59.420 I think that this one review that's sort of at the top probably gets the most thumbs up is really good at kind of showing what women are into in this case.

00:05:08.220 So I'm just sending you a screenshot, and I'll read it for those who are listening.

00:05:13.220 Because this is really what Chuan had talked about in this video, because she used this book as a device to discuss the female gooner trend,

00:05:21.880 which is really just that, like, women are perverted.

00:05:24.180 And while they shame men for consuming erotic material online privately in the darkness of their goon caves, women are reading incredibly out there,

00:05:37.460 where it's slutty novels in which things defy physics and reality and going to conferences and conventions and meetings and being very open about the fact that they're super into smutty books.

00:05:55.520 I want you to read this review, because Chuan had didn't go over this one, and it's very interesting, and it tells me a lot about, like, what's actually drawing people to this.

00:06:02.480 100%. And this is, by the way, this is a very standard review for romance novels, and it's very similar to, like, a tag system that you'll see on erotic websites for men.

00:06:13.780 Or rfab.ai that has its own system for brainstorming your stories.

00:06:18.060 Right. So, title, Sweet and Spicy Monster Romance, 5 out of 5 stars, reviewed in the United States, April 3rd, 2025.

00:06:24.920 Read if you like, monster, age gap, size difference, how will it fit?

00:06:29.380 This is what I mean when I say defy physics. Loads of milk, cinnamon roll, minotaur, slow burn, he spoils her.

00:06:38.440 My thoughts. Morning Glory Milking Farm by C.M. Nascada is what's way more than I could have imagined.

00:06:44.820 This book completely blew me away in the best way. It's unique, steamy, and balances spice and sweetness like a pro.

00:06:52.080 Honestly, I went into it not knowing what to expect, and I'm so glad I gave it a chance.

00:06:56.300 This book is such a gem. Set in a world where monsters are part of everyday life, this book introduces us to minotaurs, and trust me, these guys are more than just eye candy.

00:07:06.380 The romance was surprisingly beautiful, and the chemistry between the characters is intense.

00:07:11.220 The heroine is so relatable with her millennial struggles, drowning in debt, trying to make it on her own, and definitely not planning to fall for a minotaur.

00:07:18.940 But, of course, life has other plans. What I really loved was the depth of this story. Sure, the steam is there.

00:07:25.980 Did you write this one, Simone?

00:07:27.780 No!

00:07:29.000 You're getting a little too excited about it. Continue.

00:07:31.120 I'm trying to read it dramatically.

00:07:33.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:35.320 But the relationship was...

00:07:35.940 Everybody remembers the episode on female romance books.

00:07:38.860 No one believes me.

00:07:40.200 And you were like, I am not into these. I just read them to fall asleep.

00:07:43.320 And then you're like, so anyway, in book number five, and it's like...

00:07:47.000 I hate you. I'm not into minotaurs.

00:07:50.540 You haven't even read it. You've now got to read this book so we can do it.

00:07:54.300 I know. No, because I've also, like, aside, so months ago, before Shun had ever released this video, which I guess was, like, yesterday or something,

00:08:01.360 I watched this, like, two-hour take on it, which Shun had actually referenced on, like, how Morning Glory Milking Farm is really a, like, Marxist take on...

00:08:12.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:13.100 I had to click. You can't not click on that. That was, like... It was a great book review.

00:08:17.680 So I've heard too much already.

00:08:19.700 She read a lot from it directly, too.

00:08:22.200 Anyway, but the relationship was built on mutual respect, trust, and vulnerability.

00:08:26.300 The way the book blends romance and steam without ever making it feel solely about the spice was refreshing.

00:08:33.720 The world-building was fantastic, too. Monsters are just part of life here.

00:08:37.660 And I really liked that that was portrayed as normal rather than focusing on its weirdness.

00:08:41.920 The dynamic felt natural, not played for laughs.

00:08:44.720 This book perfectly balances slow burn, heart, and steam.

00:08:48.720 Morning Glory Milking Farm is a must-read if you love unique spicy romances with tons of heart.

00:08:53.500 But she also has comments on the audiobook.

00:08:55.740 So it looks like she... Because she purchased the Kindle, verified purchase, but then she got the audiobook, which she thoroughly enjoyed.

00:09:05.160 The narrator really brought the characters to life.

00:09:07.960 The humor popped when I heard it out loud.

00:09:09.920 I couldn't help but crack up during some of the milking scenes.

00:09:13.040 So I think she read this on Kindle.

00:09:15.000 And then she read it again on a...

00:09:18.840 Listen, on a...

00:09:19.740 I'm just trying to find out if in this world that they created, if she could get pregnant from him.

00:09:26.000 Because...

00:09:26.400 I don't know if they had penetrative schmecks.

00:09:30.520 Oh, really?

00:09:31.300 I don't know. I haven't heard the book.

00:09:33.060 It was part of it.

00:09:34.540 Well, no. Her job...

00:09:35.640 She's...

00:09:36.620 Excuse me.

00:09:37.520 She is professional.

00:09:38.660 She is working for Big Pharma.

00:09:40.600 She goes into the room...

00:09:41.340 Well, hold on.

00:09:41.800 I got an answer, so don't you worry.

00:09:43.400 No.

00:09:43.860 In Morning Glory Milking Farm Universe, humans cannot get pregnant from minotaurs.

00:09:48.240 The worldbuilding establishes that humans and monsters, including minotaurs, are separate species capable of romantic and sexual relationships, but reproduction is species-specific.

00:09:57.060 There are no mentions of hybrid offspring or cross-species in the books or related discussions.

00:10:01.820 Instead, interspecies fertility issues are addressed through a dedicated facility called the Moon Bleeding Blooded Breeding Clinic, book three in the series.

00:10:12.080 Oh, there's a book three?

00:10:13.780 Which focuses on reproduction, like IVF and embryo donation, for monsters struggling with low birth rates, but not for human minotaur pairings.

00:10:22.380 What? Okay, continue, but I want to learn more about this low birth rate.

00:10:25.500 I know. How is demographic collapse showing up in book three of a sexy minotaur romance series?

00:10:34.260 Well, one thing I've noticed, though, because this is why I also don't think that penetration took place here, is that in all of the romance novels that I listened to until I literally, like, I just got so fed up with them.

00:10:43.940 I don't finish them ever, because they're really bad, is there is no penetrative sex.

00:10:51.040 In fact, it's, like, the one form of sex that I really can't take, which is men going down on women.

00:10:55.360 Like, ugh, I just want to vomit. I just want to vomit.

00:10:59.140 And, like, that's what shows up in these.

00:11:01.060 And obviously, that's not what's happening in, like, the milking scenes, presumably.

00:11:04.440 But, yeah, I just, I think that that's this really interesting element of what you see in many of these spicy fantasy books.

00:11:11.900 But I also want to point out to you guys who are, like, girls are not into, like, giving handjobs and blowjobs.

00:11:17.300 And it's, like, this is what they are reading recreationally.

00:11:21.860 Yeah, a lot of them are.

00:11:23.860 Yeah.

00:11:24.820 Look at the numbers.

00:11:26.060 21,000 reviews.

00:11:28.340 They're not into doing it with you, is what you mean.

00:11:31.300 Yeah.

00:11:31.480 Anyway, continue.

00:11:34.240 I want to learn more about Nick Fuentes.

00:11:36.000 And then when the results come out, I'm going to give you more on this demographic collapse of monsters.

00:11:42.420 Minotaurs.

00:11:42.940 Yeah, this is fascinating.

00:11:44.580 Right.

00:11:44.960 So I just want to point out, though, that this whole fact, like, that people are really focused on romanticcy and book talk and everything, it's huge.

00:11:53.220 It's going to stay huge.

00:11:54.220 And women really like that.

00:11:55.520 But that for a very long time, women especially seem to have created romanticized fan fiction universes of real-world characters.

00:12:06.180 And this kind of bleeds through to a theme that we've been exploring on our podcast a lot recently, which is, like, kind of celebrity culture is dead.

00:12:12.960 Or the way that we're relating to celebrities is really different.

00:12:15.680 And there's this big democratization.

00:12:18.280 But it's such that now, instead of people being Snape wives, which is this, like, tiny subset of Tumblr where women, like, believe they're married to Snape and he's a real person.

00:12:29.560 And it's real people in the real world.

00:12:32.820 And this goes back a really long time.

00:12:35.580 By the way, before you go further, yes, there are explicit penetrative sex scenes in the book.

00:12:40.780 But how?

00:12:41.500 That would, like, kill her.

00:12:43.600 Like, I thought that, you know, people who really want to bang dolphins would die.

00:12:48.940 Yeah.

00:12:49.340 So hold on.

00:12:50.480 I want to talk about the low fertility rates here because this is interesting.

00:12:53.580 So it assists in reproductive services like heat triggering and breeding with werewolves in a controlled environment.

00:13:00.280 This is positioned as more effective, affordable, and enjoyable than alternative multispecies IVF or adoption.

00:13:05.720 However, the clinic services appear primarily aimed at helping clients, often humans or other species, with contraceptive difficulties, such as the human protagonist in book three, who struggles with infertility after many failed attempts.

00:13:17.340 There are implications of reproductive challenges in mixed human monster society.

00:13:21.180 The existence of multispecies IVF suggests compatibility across species, but no explicit details on particular monsters having inherently low birth rates.

00:13:30.320 Some darker novellas in the extended universe, like Monroe Bide, explored forced reproduction and child loss in ancient Minotaur lore.

00:13:39.540 But that's historic horror rather than current low birth rates.

00:13:42.260 Okay.

00:13:42.880 Okay.

00:13:43.300 I decided to dive deep into the lore on this for you guys.

00:13:46.380 So it turns out what's actually happening in society is there is a fertility crisis, but it's caused by significantly more males being born than females, and this is happening across species.

00:13:56.060 It does appear that you can get interspecies fertility children through IVF clinics, like the Moon-Blooded Fertility Clinic, which allows a werewolf and a human to conceive.

00:14:07.240 But this, to me, seems pretty trivial, considering that in this universe, werewolves look like humans most of the time, and only, I don't know, wolf out, or whatever you want to say, once during a lunar cycle, or when they're aroused sometimes, and they turn into dogs.

00:14:21.720 But, you know, a lot of women already do that more than, you know, I'm comfortable talking about.

00:14:28.240 So that's the full story there.

00:14:30.780 There is a fertility crisis in this world, and I can see it driving the plot for a lot of women, a world where women are rare and therefore desired more than in our world.

00:14:41.040 Continue.

00:14:42.080 And get to the Nick Funches stuff.

00:14:43.500 Come on, that's what people are here for.

00:14:44.900 Yeah.

00:14:45.300 First, I just want to give history to show that this is nothing new, and that we're going to always be doing this.

00:14:49.440 So, one really interesting early example, and this is sort of just when we could start documenting things well, is the Bronte sisters.

00:14:57.260 Are you familiar with them?

00:14:58.140 They wrote books like Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights.

00:15:00.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:01.400 But they also did, like, fan fiction of famous people of their era?

00:15:04.560 Yeah.

00:15:04.940 I think it was a guy who fought Napoleon, right?

00:15:07.300 Napoleon was in their fan fiction, but the sisters, and especially Charlotte, wrote some of the earliest examples of what academics consider to be fan fiction.

00:15:15.760 And they centered around, not Napoleon, but the Duke of Wellington.

00:15:19.800 I thought I said the guy who beat him.

00:15:22.000 Yeah.

00:15:23.420 Come on, you know history better than to, anyway.

00:15:25.900 No, it's just the guy who beat Napoleon.

00:15:27.220 That's what I remember about.

00:15:27.980 But he was a major figure in their juvenile writings, as academics think of them.

00:15:32.800 So, they and their brother Branwell, so it wasn't just the girls, developed a highly detailed imaginary world featuring kingdoms known as Angria and Glass Town, in which Wellington was often depicted as this heroic leader.

00:15:46.680 In both their stories and their role-playing games, they had little booklets and everything, and they blended, of course, like, real and invented worlds, just like we see in these other fan fictions, and you're going to see this with Nick Fuentes.

00:15:59.360 And there were even, like, sort of fictionalized versions of Wellington who got slightly different names, but they were clearly based on him.

00:16:09.240 So, what happened around the death of Charlie Kirk, to pivot a little bit, is suddenly people started saying that there were a bunch of women on TikTok who were leftists and who were obsessed with Nick Fuentes.

00:16:24.660 And Catherine D., who we've had on the podcast, who's basically an internet historian.

00:16:29.220 Printed a show from the family.

00:16:31.260 Absolutely a brilliant person.

00:16:33.380 And I love her so much.

00:16:34.160 You should check out her blog, Default Blog.

00:16:35.820 She was on the case, which is what the best people in the world do.

00:16:38.960 You've got to figure out what's going on there.

00:16:40.400 And being the amazing fact finder she is, she found, actually, that this Tumblr content was astroturfed.

00:16:48.620 Most of the accounts that were created that had this Nick Fuentes, like, fangirl content, like Nick Fuentes' voice overlays with women dancing and stuff, was astroturfed or faked or just clearly not real and not legitimate, which is super interesting.

00:17:05.800 However, she decided to dig a little bit deeper.

00:17:08.800 And then she found that there is a fan community on Tumblr.

00:17:13.240 And it has some spillover into, like, our kind of our own, which is the fan fiction site and Reddit.

00:17:18.620 And she addressed this in her substack.

00:17:20.520 Hello there.

00:17:21.100 Welcome to the Nick Fuentes side of Tumblr.

00:17:23.340 And so here's what she writes of her findings.

00:17:25.520 I'm just summarizing them.

00:17:26.700 We're not going to go through her blog post.

00:17:28.040 On TikTok, the search term Nick Fuentes is blacklisted, so anyone who wants to talk about him, work around it by writing Nick Fountes or similar variations.

00:17:38.500 So she's doing really, like, good detective work.

00:17:40.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:40.780 This is hard to find.

00:17:41.920 You've got to find.

00:17:42.680 Yeah, this is deep, deep stuff here.

00:17:44.660 Yeah, I love it.

00:17:45.640 There wasn't much, though.

00:17:46.700 A phenomenon, not a widespread trend.

00:17:49.000 There were a couple of ironic posts, a couple of out-of-pocket, controversial world posts, but overall fandom wasn't at the scale that people on X seem to believe it is.

00:17:59.520 Because that's where people were talking about these TikTok trends.

00:18:02.780 On Archive of Our Own, exactly 26 Nick Fuentes fanfics.

00:18:06.420 I didn't check X, Discord servers, or other private spaces where these communities might actually gather, which is a limitation here.

00:18:13.560 And the fanfics are great.

00:18:16.160 I obviously read to you a little bit of one.

00:18:18.400 Well, yeah, the one you read from was not, like, poorly written.

00:18:20.680 It seemed plausible in many ways.

00:18:23.040 It seemed to capture its character pretty well in the moment.

00:18:25.160 It was cute.

00:18:26.020 Yeah.

00:18:26.380 Some other titles of the fanfics.

00:18:29.200 Well, mine kind's your kind.

00:18:30.620 They don't love you the way I love you.

00:18:33.060 And most of them have a lot of, like, warnings, which is great.

00:18:38.360 Like, one called Making America Great by Anonymous has warnings about graphic depictions of violence, grape, and non-kong.

00:18:47.520 It features Charlie Kirk, Dean Withers, Nick Fuentes, gay sex, double penetration, anal sex.

00:18:53.180 Oh, there's a whole lot of other things I can't even say here.

00:18:55.640 There are a lot of them that, like, and this includes the fan art that's out there on Nick Fuentes.

00:19:01.000 I'll share with you some of the cute fan art that's on Tumblr and elsewhere.

00:19:07.020 Yeah, we got some mean Picasso fan art of us recently.

00:19:11.740 Like, Picasso-esque.

00:19:12.920 I don't know.

00:19:13.140 It's bad.

00:19:13.980 It's not low culture, and I hate that.

00:19:16.140 I want...

00:19:16.440 It's, like, standard progressive, you know.

00:19:18.420 Like, here's some ChatGPT-based, really cute Nick Fuentes fan art of Nick Fuentes and Destiny.

00:19:24.620 That is one of the most popular ships.

00:19:26.840 Not the most, actually.

00:19:27.780 Not even in the top two, actually, though.

00:19:29.260 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:19:30.920 I mean, that's the one who everyone thinks he actually had go down on him.

00:19:34.000 Destiny?

00:19:34.520 Really?

00:19:35.320 Oh, yeah.

00:19:35.980 There's a video.

00:19:36.740 Okay, so tell me...

00:19:37.820 Yeah, tell me about, like, the actual gossip of...

00:19:40.540 Because you've said multiple times on this podcast that you think...

00:19:43.040 This is one where Destiny got Nick Fuentes pregnant.

00:19:46.340 I love that.

00:19:48.260 They call it preg-nick.

00:19:51.520 Preg-nick.

00:19:52.180 Oh, it's a thing in the Nick Fuentes community.

00:19:55.280 Okay.

00:19:55.860 Yeah, there's also...

00:19:57.060 Well, no, there's just...

00:19:57.900 There's a lot of words.

00:19:58.680 There's also a glossary of terms.

00:20:01.000 There's also My Little Pony, Nick Fuentes.

00:20:02.940 It's clearly sketched.

00:20:04.240 So there's a broad variety of styles of Nick Fuentes fan art.

00:20:09.180 But yes, there's...

00:20:10.140 Okay, so we'll go over quickly the plausibility of Nick Fuentes being gay.

00:20:13.160 Okay, dive into it.

00:20:14.160 Go tell me.

00:20:15.040 School me.

00:20:15.520 So there's a few pieces of evidence that people will point to.

00:20:18.260 I think that the pieces of evidence that people often point to are very weak.

00:20:22.460 And I think that there is a very strong actual piece of evidence.

00:20:25.020 Okay.

00:20:26.640 So the Catboy Kami stream date, this was in 2019.

00:20:30.800 Fuentes did a 10-hour live stream with Catboy Kami, a right-wing streamer known for dressing

00:20:35.540 in cat ears and feminine attire.

00:20:37.840 The interaction was playful and intimate, hugs, cuddling references, and Kami later claiming

00:20:42.500 Fuentes was his quote-unquote first kiss.

00:20:44.940 Some interpreted this as a date with Kami implying a sexual relationship in follow-up comments.

00:20:50.300 Clips from the stream show Fuentes laughing, you know, not shutting down the flirtatious

00:20:54.620 behavior.

00:20:55.680 Fuentes said this was a casual collab and that nothing explicit sexually happened.

00:21:01.220 And Kami's claims are vague, vague enough to be misinterpreted.

00:21:04.640 But it appears that that's sort of what he wanted.

00:21:07.140 This in isolation.

00:21:08.160 This just shows that Nick Fuentes is like, and it shows that more often, even like gropers

00:21:13.820 or people on the far right are not like actively hostile to gay.

00:21:16.980 Like people think, oh, he's going to like hate or lash out at anyone who acts in that way.

00:21:22.480 And the reality is that most of the leading members of the movement, yeah, you'll have

00:21:26.200 people who have very low sort of, what am I saying here?

00:21:29.460 Like very low self-confidence men are very, or they are genuinely quite afraid of coming

00:21:35.600 off as gay.

00:21:36.740 And they are the ones who are most likely to lash out when somebody is being overly flirtatious

00:21:41.040 with them.

00:21:41.820 If anything, I would see this as evidence that he's probably not secretly gay because I imagine

00:21:47.020 if he was struggling with that, he would have pushed back unless he was secretly same-sex

00:21:51.800 attractive, but also very used to sleeping with men.

00:21:55.120 So, but we'll get to whether, whether that is something that's, that's happening in just

00:21:59.000 a second and what I would think the evidence is of that.

00:22:01.180 The next one is a gay porn stream incident.

00:22:03.140 At the end of a live stream on Cozy TV in 2024, his feed kept running and played an explicit

00:22:10.420 gay porn scene for 30 seconds before it ended.

00:22:13.100 30 seconds?

00:22:13.820 That's a really long time.

00:22:16.060 Yeah.

00:22:16.280 He blamed Israeli hackers.

00:22:18.380 The thing is-

00:22:18.920 It's always the Israeli hackers.

00:22:21.780 Yeah.

00:22:22.100 Would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those Israeli hackers.

00:22:25.740 Well, and Tucker had previously called him a gay kid who lives in his parents' basement.

00:22:29.000 But Nick Fuentes provided back-end proof of a hack, screenshot and messages, and no forensic

00:22:34.580 analysis, although no forensic analysis confirmed tampering.

00:22:38.660 So I would say this seems pretty believable to me that this was a hack.

00:22:43.780 The next one here, I'd say the Destiny sex tape.

00:22:46.520 A leaked video surfaced showing a man that resembled streamer Destiny performing oral on an unidentified

00:22:53.900 white man with a slim build.

00:22:56.000 It tied back to a 2022 stream with Fuentes, guest on Destiny's show, making flirty comments

00:23:00.940 on the show interpreted as mutual sex attraction, joking about intimacy.

00:23:05.260 Speculation exploded that Fuentes was the recipient.

00:23:09.340 The video timing matches.

00:23:11.780 Fuentes 2022 visit to Destiny X post and articles fueled it with users noting Destiny's blue

00:23:17.300 hair in the clip versus the brown hair he had during the visit.

00:23:20.760 But claiming voices and builds match.

00:23:24.260 This is one of those things that's partially true.

00:23:26.360 It turned out it was Destiny giving head to some guy.

00:23:29.000 But Destiny said it was not Fuentes and Fuentes says it's not Fuentes.

00:23:32.780 So I don't see, I mean, Destiny may feel like I should lie to protect him because it will

00:23:37.860 matter, you know, this is something we did and he's not out.

00:23:40.380 And, you know, there's this whole thing about outing people on the left.

00:23:43.220 Maybe, maybe.

00:23:44.640 I don't see it as super strong evidence.

00:23:46.620 Then there's things where Fuentes has said things like having sex with women is gay at

00:23:51.140 2022 clip, you know, so he said a lot that just like, and I don't understand his

00:23:57.700 logic on this, I should probably go into why he believes this.

00:23:59.780 I'm sure there is some like logic here that sex outside of marriage is, I think, functionally

00:24:05.860 gay is his perspective here.

00:24:08.140 So as to whether or not I think he is actually gay, the problem is, for me, with Nick, is

00:24:15.940 there are fan communities of girls dedicated to him, right?

00:24:19.840 And yet he claims to be an incel.

00:24:23.160 And not only that, there's not even ever, and I'm talking ever, a single confirmed instance

00:24:29.360 of him dating a girl.

00:24:30.660 Really?

00:24:31.860 Yeah.

00:24:32.380 He's never been confirmed dating someone.

00:24:35.040 Now, I don't, for those of you who have never been in like a male body, like if you're

00:24:40.380 a woman, like just having a lot of power and having never dated someone, that may not

00:24:46.300 seem like a weird thing to you, right?

00:24:48.220 Yeah.

00:24:48.820 Also, I mean, my initial, I guess, woman reaction is, I mean, he's super busy.

00:24:54.540 He's always on these, like doing these live feeds and stuff.

00:24:56.980 Like I can't blame him for not getting out there.

00:25:00.400 That is irrelevant.

00:25:01.620 A guy can always find time to hook up.

00:25:04.600 No, the reality of the situation is, is that if you are a guy, and many of the watchers of

00:25:10.200 the show are men, unless you're just like explicitly asexual, which is rarer than being gay, if you

00:25:16.540 have a lot of fans and a lot of status within any community, there are going to be attractive

00:25:23.640 girls who are just like slavishly into you, right?

00:25:27.060 And like, no guy turns that away.

00:25:29.580 There's going to be girls who will do whatever you want.

00:25:31.460 Like if Nick Fuentes wanted a girlfriend, he could have a girlfriend.

00:25:36.100 He has the status.

00:25:37.400 He has the visibility and he has the fan base for him to not just like, maybe he got in

00:25:44.480 a lot of failed relationships, but to have never successfully had any relationships that

00:25:49.520 to me indicates that he's not even trying in the first place, which indicate, especially

00:25:54.440 when you consider like, you can say, well, it's out of line with his values.

00:25:57.440 No, his values are like saving white people and Catholics, right?

00:26:01.500 Given the uniquely low fertility rates in the Catholic population, you think that he'd

00:26:05.020 be wanting to go out there and have kids.

00:26:06.680 And yet he's not doing that.

00:26:09.220 To me, that is a very difficult thing to explain.

00:26:13.140 However, I also have a rumor, well, because I know a lot of people in the right wing influencers

00:26:18.120 face that may explain this in a way that his fans may not want it explained.

00:26:23.180 And the people who want the luridness of a gay relationship would want it explained.

00:26:27.700 Nick Fuentes actually sleeps around all the time.

00:26:30.320 He just pretends to be an incel.

00:26:32.060 And at least from what I heard, this was true of younger Nick Fuentes and that the whole

00:26:37.080 incel framing of his personality is sort of a LARP he made up when he decided to try to

00:26:42.860 become like a conservative influencer.

00:26:44.700 Like I'm going to appeal to incel, so I'm going to pretend to be an incel.

00:26:47.700 And that actually makes sense.

00:26:49.120 A lot of sense.

00:26:50.300 If you look at his personality, his appearance, he's not an unattractive guy.

00:26:54.780 And he is very, you know, like he's obviously good at flirting.

00:26:58.880 He can do it with men without like, for me, the thing that makes me think he's almost certainly

00:27:02.560 not gay is he is comfortable with male flirting and gay guys who are trying to suppress to that

00:27:10.140 or hide that typically attempt to hide that behavior.

00:27:14.160 Totally.

00:27:14.760 Yeah.

00:27:14.900 Like they're very sensitive to it.

00:27:16.620 Guys who like.

00:27:17.160 No, he's.

00:27:17.760 Yeah.

00:27:18.120 He seems unapologetic in his whatever.

00:27:20.960 And people would be like, oh, you really think Nick Fuentes would like lie to be.

00:27:25.160 Yes, of course he would.

00:27:26.060 Like his whole thing's an act.

00:27:27.840 Like you guys are aware of this, right?

00:27:29.540 Like he's, he's, he's not really about, and, and this is for me that I've always said my

00:27:36.700 biggest problem was, was Nick Fuentes as an influencer is he will make demands that clearly

00:27:44.040 don't even serve his own stated objective.

00:27:46.940 Like I can't support the right anymore because Donald Trump chose like a mixed race running

00:27:52.720 mate, right?

00:27:53.460 I'm sorry, a running mate in a mixed race marriage, right?

00:27:56.140 Like he's like, I won't vote for this.

00:27:58.940 I don't want my followers to vote for this.

00:28:00.280 Like that was one of his big complaints.

00:28:01.280 Right.

00:28:01.480 Um, and, and if we actually like the broader, right, actually capitulated to what we need

00:28:08.620 to, to get the grope or vote vote, we would never be able to win general elections and therefore

00:28:16.700 his actual agenda would be less likely to be achieved.

00:28:20.260 So it must mean that he doesn't actually hold this agenda.

00:28:24.160 He's just fronting his holding this agenda and sort of parasitizing right-wing communities

00:28:30.060 for personal aggrandizement and fame.

00:28:33.680 And I see that as a really negative thing, especially as like somebody who's like, when

00:28:38.540 you enter a community, you know, even if you entered at the joke or whatever at first,

00:28:41.880 which I think for him, a lot of this was that community has helped him a lot.

00:28:45.560 Like it has helped him grow his, his fan base and everything like that.

00:28:48.420 And even if he's just like effing with the right wing and attempting to manipulate the

00:28:53.060 wider right wing circle, like he should at least have like the personal honor to not

00:28:58.300 do stuff that sandbags elections for us.

00:29:00.720 And yet that appears to be his goal, which I, I mean, he's spoken nicely about us.

00:29:08.140 I don't have like a strong negative opinion.

00:29:10.420 Like he seems like a chill dude.

00:29:11.980 I just wish that he would consider more that like, it's not just about his personal fame.

00:29:18.020 It's about achieving the objectives that he says he cares about, like lowering the number

00:29:23.360 of abortions or, you know, preventing anti-white racism or restoring a degree of sanity to our

00:29:29.380 country in our, in our, you know, inter international relations.

00:29:33.160 There's been some recent stuff of Matt Walsh being like, well, everyone on the right is

00:29:36.920 on the same side.

00:29:37.820 You know, we never should attack anyone else on the right.

00:29:40.200 And Brett Cooper did a video of this and she had the same opinion.

00:29:44.260 And I think that where I am okay with drawing the line and giving more direct criticism to

00:29:50.480 people on the right is if they go out there and tell their voters to actively vote against

00:29:56.020 the right's interest or not vote in election cycles, which a number of right wingers have

00:30:00.700 done, because these are individuals who you are handing power and legitimacy to who are

00:30:06.560 undermining our combined goals.

00:30:08.580 And if you're like, well, you know, it's a difference of opinion, or they may really think

00:30:13.120 that we shouldn't vote in this election cycle for X, Y, and Z reason.

00:30:16.580 I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:30:17.660 Nick Fuentes says he believes that life starts at conception.

00:30:22.080 So abortion is a literally murder.

00:30:24.940 So we are literally going through like an active genocide campaign in the United States.

00:30:29.880 And he's willing to throw away those babies lives from his perception over something as

00:30:38.200 silly and obviously unwilling to win elections as mixed race marriage.

00:30:42.180 Um, like this is, this is either he doesn't believe that either.

00:30:46.760 He doesn't believe that children are actually being killed due to his decisions, or he just

00:30:51.780 doesn't care that children are being killed due to his decisions.

00:30:54.740 And that to me is somewhat more horrifying.

00:30:57.660 It is more horrifying to me.

00:30:59.220 If he is being honest and willing to throw away the lives of countless infants for his

00:31:04.960 personal ego.

00:31:06.820 I will also note here, because I think that this is unusual for people is the reason why

00:31:10.980 a lot of people have a problem with Nick Fuentes is the anti-Semitism stuff.

00:31:13.700 And I think you should be able to have a conversation about anything.

00:31:16.620 Like I have no problem with Candace Owens.

00:31:18.380 While she might have some anti-Semitic perspectives.

00:31:20.980 I think that she approaches them from the perspective of genuine, if harebrained investigation and

00:31:27.760 belief.

00:31:28.860 Whereas with Nick Fuentes, he attacks things from a perspective that I think just do nothing

00:31:36.240 but hurt our own party, right?

00:31:38.260 Like, it's just like, oh, a fight alongside this person who randomly shoots his own soldiers.

00:31:44.000 It's like, well, there's a certain point where you need to be like, well, he does keep randomly

00:31:48.260 shooting soldiers or telling people not to vote in elections, right?

00:31:51.820 Like, that's a big issue.

00:31:53.720 And it's something that I don't think he's really, you know, recanted or anything like

00:31:58.460 that.

00:31:58.780 And so it's something that we should expect from him again.

00:32:01.360 Anyway, continue.

00:32:03.420 I think part of the reason why he's captured the imagination, however, of these young women

00:32:10.800 is because he invests as much as he does in just being a personality.

00:32:19.420 So in this case, his greatest vice per your perspective actually turns out to be his greatest

00:32:25.260 virtue or the thing that-

00:32:26.660 Yeah, I will say we have no fan fictions about us yet.

00:32:29.500 That's what we don't.

00:32:30.800 Like, we don't really feed into a cinematic universe.

00:32:33.420 Oh, you had a fan fiction written about you once, but it was a long time ago in your previous

00:32:36.720 period of fame as the head marketer at Hubpages.

00:32:39.940 Well, it was more of fan fiction about Hubpages in general.

00:32:43.260 Like, yeah, I worked for a content website.

00:32:45.680 Yeah, where, I mean, because the people who were power users of this website became very,

00:32:51.540 very familiar with every single staff member of the role that they played, they ended up

00:32:55.480 mailing a physical screenplay to our offices in which they, as their like self-insert character,

00:33:03.840 visited our offices, and we were there, and in the screenplay, it was-

00:33:09.020 What happened to you in the screenplay?

00:33:11.080 You know, I didn't even read.

00:33:12.100 I, like, I don't, I guess I didn't care enough to know what happened.

00:33:15.900 I never, my self-interest is too high.

00:33:18.600 It was printed.

00:33:19.460 I couldn't control F it, so what's the point, you know?

00:33:22.660 Like, I don't read physical things anymore.

00:33:25.700 Who does?

00:33:27.120 But, yeah.

00:33:27.740 I heard a comet struck the office at the end of it or something.

00:33:30.000 Maybe, yeah.

00:33:32.500 I, I don't remember.

00:33:34.500 Okay, continue, continue.

00:33:35.740 But, yeah, so what Catherine D did find when she went on Tumblr was, and, and, and surface

00:33:42.320 was one particularly autistically and well-assembled fan blog about Nick Fuentes that really helps

00:33:51.860 to bring together this nexus of the extended spiderweb of Nick Fuentes' fangirlism.

00:33:58.380 And it is, it is a thing of true beauty.

00:34:02.660 And it's, it's, it's, her name is Nazeline.

00:34:08.480 It, it, it is her blog on Tumblr.

00:34:10.880 And it is where she provides a wealth of resources on Nick Fuentes and just fangirls out about him.

00:34:18.020 So it features a lot of things.

00:34:20.120 It, it features resources for Nickstorians because that is what they call themselves on,

00:34:24.220 on Tumblr.

00:34:25.020 And they're different, they're not Groypets, which is the term for female Groypers.

00:34:31.860 They are Nickstorians, okay?

00:34:34.460 So they're not like fans of his ideology.

00:34:37.600 Yes.

00:34:37.720 They, they typically don't, they actually, they don't talk about politics at all in any

00:34:42.660 of this material that I've reviewed.

00:34:44.360 No politics.

00:34:45.480 It is all the shipping, the fan fiction.

00:34:50.680 He's so cute.

00:34:51.840 Look at his little hoodie.

00:34:53.480 Look at his little belly.

00:34:54.800 Like I, I'm telling you, man, it's very interesting.

00:34:58.180 She also has, so her, she, her, her one really good jumping off point, because she links to

00:35:03.260 a lot of other people's content.

00:35:05.040 And this is where it's clear that like, there are a number of people who are actively contributing

00:35:08.600 to this fan community.

00:35:10.200 She, she has her resources for new Nickstorians, including key Tumblr posts, such as guys Nick

00:35:16.880 Fuentes has been accused of hooking up with an analysis.

00:35:20.720 Analysis?

00:35:21.800 Yes.

00:35:22.240 And it is, it is a detailed, it's a detailed analysis.

00:35:27.240 What else?

00:35:28.040 Other, other things.

00:35:28.880 Did you come away thinking that any of them were plausible when you went into the analysis

00:35:31.960 or?

00:35:32.580 I mean, just as plausible as what you said, you know, but yeah, like that plus tons of

00:35:38.700 images.

00:35:39.520 Another, the Nick Fuentes side of Tumblr information post.

00:35:42.780 There's also Quee Parade's Nick Fuentes three-piece essay and Nick being violent compilation

00:35:50.120 and Nick Fuentes Kiwi Farms health thread summary.

00:35:54.200 And there are also links to his TV and movie appearances and his Kiwi Farm threads and much,

00:36:00.780 much more.

00:36:01.220 Like, I've, I don't, honestly, I don't think I've ever seen anyone with a fan community cataloged

00:36:08.720 as obsessively and in such great detail.

00:36:11.360 And honestly, there's not that much Nick Fuentes comment out there.

00:36:15.280 I mean, like content.

00:36:16.280 He has like, he's made appearances on other people's streams.

00:36:19.040 Those are like very well-documented.

00:36:22.820 And people love it.

00:36:23.600 Yeah.

00:36:23.760 Yeah.

00:36:23.980 You have him over here, do a flirty podcast, really confuse people.

00:36:27.360 That would be amazing.

00:36:28.460 And Nick, if you ever hear of us or see this, you are very.

00:36:31.600 He knows us.

00:36:31.960 He talked about us before.

00:36:33.020 He was.

00:36:33.340 He like saw, he saw something about us and someone, or someone who was on his stream mentioned

00:36:37.540 us and he was like, yeah, they're fine.

00:36:40.860 I'm not going to get involved with them because then I'll, I'll sully their reputations or something

00:36:46.060 like that, which is, I guess, nice of him.

00:36:47.780 Really cool.

00:36:48.300 I mean, again, he's like smart enough to understand what he's doing.

00:36:53.180 And I, I, I, like if I'm going to be generous, what he could be trying to do is move the Everton

00:36:58.300 window around acceptable discussions, which is okay.

00:37:02.760 I guess, you know, you've got to spend at least somebody's reputation around doing that.

00:37:07.160 Like maybe, maybe.

00:37:09.820 So also included in, in Naz's resources, this amazing Tumblr, Nickstorian, she links to outside

00:37:16.820 sources, including things that she's created.

00:37:18.780 Like I just sent you on WhatsApp, her Pinterest page in which she has created quite a few Pinterest

00:37:27.120 pinboards of Nick Fuentes related stuff, like Nickstorian memes and AF fan art and her, her

00:37:35.640 various like shipping.

00:37:37.380 You know, he is kind of cute.

00:37:39.220 Like I can see like, well, the way she frames him, it's very flattering.

00:37:43.500 I mean, like, I love it.

00:37:45.020 She also has created the official Nickstorian dictionary, which includes a lot of things,

00:37:51.580 things that I, like you, you can infer that Nickstory means a combination of the words Nick

00:37:56.760 in history and that Nickstorians are, you know, but also like, just to show how one young

00:38:01.960 these people are and their context clues in here and how extensive their, their research

00:38:07.680 is ancient Nickstory is referred to as super old Nick lore, anything pre 2019, which to me

00:38:14.120 just seems like yesterday.

00:38:16.280 Yeah.

00:38:16.940 And yet for her, that's like, well, that's really old Nick lore.

00:38:20.240 Like, so there are a bunch of other things.

00:38:22.400 So obviously Groypur is a male fan of Nick, but Groypette is a female fan of Nick.

00:38:27.400 Groydpur is a non-white fan of Nick.

00:38:30.160 Nickstorians, she refers to as specifically the Tumblr community of people of all walks

00:38:34.480 of the political spectrum, but are usually leftist who are interested in Nick Fuentes.

00:38:38.940 Nickblur, which is a combination of Nick and Tumblr is another term used to describe the

00:38:43.080 Tumblr Nick community.

00:38:44.660 Fetus Nick, a tag used for Nick media, photos and video related to anything pre 2019.

00:38:49.900 Gay Fuentes, tag used for when you want to post something about Nick Fuentes being gay.

00:38:56.020 Cute Fuentes, tag used for when you want to post something about Nick Fuentes being endearing

00:39:00.300 or cute.

00:39:01.680 What else is there?

00:39:04.880 There's, there's so much Nickstorian voodoo magic term used for whenever the Tumblr fandom

00:39:09.400 speaks something accurately into existence or manifest something to happen.

00:39:13.760 Like maybe him showing up on someone else's feed.

00:39:17.520 Yeah.

00:39:18.080 It's a ethnic combination of the words, ethnic and Nick.

00:39:23.260 Oh God.

00:39:24.420 Pine fact, pine fat mix of the name, pine sap and fat pine sap is fat.

00:39:30.400 Is that just another user?

00:39:31.460 It must be there's, there's just, there's a ton popular user in this community.

00:39:35.540 And then there's, there's a whole separate section in her dictionary.

00:39:37.900 I don't even, this is, it's long.

00:39:40.040 I have to scroll to get to the bottom of it, of just ship or duo names.

00:39:45.520 So shipping for those unfamiliar with the fan fiction world, shipping is relation shipping.

00:39:50.820 When you, when you take two characters and you say now Kif and you want them to get together

00:39:55.660 and you get really excited about it.

00:39:57.340 Here are two examples.

00:39:58.440 The one that Naz, who I now deeply admire, who has this, this Tumblr blog that she compiles,

00:40:05.800 like the best of academic anthropologists.

00:40:10.480 She's all about Nick and Keith Woods.

00:40:13.720 Do you know who he is?

00:40:14.420 I've never heard of him before.

00:40:16.260 No.

00:40:17.200 Keith Woods, whose real name is Keith O'Brien is a prominent Irish far-right commentator and

00:40:22.500 activist known for his strong views on nationalism, immigration, and identity politics.

00:40:26.800 Apparently he merged as a significant feature in the online far-right only recently after

00:40:34.080 Elon Musk acquired X.

00:40:35.960 So then, you know, all the banned dissident voices could, could return.

00:40:39.760 And he grew his, his follower base to 150,000 followers on X by late 2023.

00:40:46.240 There's, there's fan fiction in which this ship really inspired Naz and a bunch of other

00:40:51.900 people to really love the idea of this.

00:40:54.420 There's also a separate person on Tumblr who has created a dedicated Keith Woods fan blog.

00:41:02.120 And I want, I want to be clear that like this shows, by the way.

00:41:05.480 Wait, so Keith Woods is a far-right guy and now there's fan fiction about him.

00:41:09.420 Uh-huh.

00:41:09.840 And so this, this goes to show that like there are these cinematic universes and it's not

00:41:14.140 just about one person, but it's often about a genre of person.

00:41:18.040 And the theme here is that this is, this is indeed mostly left-leaning women who are into

00:41:23.060 these very like far-right guys.

00:41:29.060 And I think the reason why they're into them specifically is that they are politically so

00:41:35.160 different and they, they really don't care about the politics at all.

00:41:38.040 They care about the fact that they're like bad boys by their political standards.

00:41:42.100 And they are.

00:41:42.740 And I, I admit that the Nick Fuentes character, if you're unfamiliar with like the stuff he

00:41:47.680 gets up to, one, I think it's pretty cool that he was able to like be around right-leaning

00:41:53.060 people who are like flirty or whatever and not, you know, even with destiny and not like

00:41:57.340 throw like a, a, a fit about it.

00:42:00.380 Right.

00:42:00.640 You know?

00:42:00.880 Yeah.

00:42:01.100 Um, I think it's pretty cool the way that he used to love to photo bomb leftist journalists

00:42:06.400 so that those images where it looks like they were being chummy at a party, he would like

00:42:11.160 release them like a few years later or whatever.

00:42:14.120 Um, and it would like destroy their careers.

00:42:16.800 Yeah.

00:42:16.900 Back when the funniest, I, I, that's hilarious.

00:42:20.820 Well, and it's such a great way to, to leverage that like political infection concept that so

00:42:27.240 rotted the, the left's mind that like, if you're in the same room, if you breathe the

00:42:30.920 same air as this white supremacist, you are by proxy now, a white supremacist.

00:42:36.580 I heard he went to a part, I heard they spoke at a conference where X person attended is

00:42:41.900 what people will say about us.

00:42:43.100 It's like, we don't, what do you want it to do?

00:42:44.720 Like run out of the room when we see it?

00:42:46.960 Apparently that's what you're supposed to do.

00:42:48.980 Right.

00:42:49.200 Like just go start screaming in the middle of my speech, pointing at them.

00:42:52.360 Like I'm, I'm, you know, lemon grab or something.

00:42:55.620 Acceptable.

00:42:55.980 To give you a picture though, of like what the tone is of these fan blogs, the, the URL

00:43:03.260 is tumblr.com slash woods dolly.

00:43:06.380 And she, she calls herself Keith's little torta K E E F.

00:43:12.160 Like just being like, this is, this is young people being really holds up spork cute.

00:43:16.560 She introduces herself.

00:43:18.180 Hi friends.

00:43:19.140 Welcome to my extremely self-indulgent girl blog, where I talk about my favorite political

00:43:23.620 dissident e-celeb Keith Woods heart emoji.

00:43:26.640 Please don't ask me about politics.

00:43:28.480 This is not a political blog by any means.

00:43:30.880 On this blog, I engage in extreme parasocialism, schizo or fantasy posting and suggestive or

00:43:38.360 18 plus posts on occasion.

00:43:41.100 Um, it's so that's, that's like, that is the tone here.

00:43:45.600 These are young leftist girls.

00:43:47.100 And I just want to find something else to read from this blog.

00:43:49.780 This sounds interesting.

00:43:51.160 I want to see.

00:43:51.600 But there's still more that I want to cover.

00:43:53.640 So we have to keep going, but I will, I will include some commentary from her coming up.

00:43:57.260 Another really common ship though, is as we mentioned above Nick and destiny, there is

00:44:01.940 a music video.

00:44:02.960 There is a, there's fan art of the stream.

00:44:05.260 I, I, I shared with you.

00:44:06.680 There is literally a subreddit.

00:44:08.500 There is a subreddit called reddit.com slash r slash destiny fuentes friends, F-R-E-N-S.

00:44:13.920 There's a subreddit.

00:44:15.520 Sorry, the creator of the subreddit.

00:44:17.040 Oh my God.

00:44:17.480 I have to send this to you.

00:44:18.980 Created a shipping spreadsheet for destiny and Nick and Google sheets.

00:44:23.900 Let me just.

00:44:24.860 What the heck?

00:44:26.080 I love this.

00:44:26.980 This is why I'm like, you don't understand how many tabs I had open before we started.

00:44:30.480 Why isn't there a shipping spreadsheet with us?

00:44:32.740 It's called the, the Nickstony archive.

00:44:36.580 Um, she writes, I made this a while ago.

00:44:38.760 Over a particularly weird weekend bender.

00:44:40.780 It's pretty messy, but I'm fairly certain I've accounted for every public destiny Nick

00:44:44.700 encounter.

00:44:45.600 I have logs of 27 unique dates.

00:44:48.100 Some of these were hard to find.

00:44:49.540 And I suspect that I'm missing some things in parts.

00:44:51.700 If you see.

00:44:52.260 This is a lot.

00:44:54.820 This is a lot.

00:44:55.900 Like we've tried to do stuff with destiny before and it's never happened.

00:45:00.300 Yeah.

00:45:00.560 I sourced everything from various channels across YouTube, Telegram, Rumble, BitChute, Odyssey,

00:45:05.980 the internet archive, and alt sensors.

00:45:07.480 Subscribe to reddit.com slash R slash Destiny Fundus friends from the Omni Groyper.

00:45:13.300 So I guess some of them call themselves Groypers, but she's more on Reddit than she is on Tumblr.

00:45:16.920 So that makes sense that she's whatever.

00:45:19.060 But anyway, this is, this spreadsheet has the title of the piece, a description, link one.

00:45:24.220 It shows runtime.

00:45:24.900 It shows the date there.

00:45:26.480 There are all links, link three, link four, link five.

00:45:29.740 It is.

00:45:31.500 It's a lot.

00:45:32.480 Oh, he was, they were on fresh and fit together.

00:45:35.120 They were on destiny screen stream together.

00:45:39.220 So yeah.

00:45:40.760 Anyway, just to like show you the extensive amount of like obsessive fandom.

00:45:46.540 This is, this is not like the whole, like everything about shipping.

00:45:51.580 This is just one piece of like, well, this is where they appeared together so that I can

00:45:55.560 feel like it really happened.

00:45:57.300 And I think one of the reasons why people find these real world, like bad boys, so rich

00:46:03.480 is characters to play with is like, Snape has this very, or like, like Malfoy or any, any

00:46:08.820 character in books has this sort of limited universe.

00:46:11.080 Whereas like, these are characters that exist in the real world.

00:46:13.660 And you don't know tomorrow they could pop up on a new stream and say something crazy.

00:46:17.960 And you have that like dopaminergic reward of an unexpected new action because they're

00:46:23.220 real people that have agentic power in the world.

00:46:25.840 Well, I love the recent virality from her body, my choice that he made go viral.

00:46:31.040 No, but the thing about Nick is he does come across as genuinely good-natured, open to engaging

00:46:37.500 with ideas outside of his, like he doesn't re at like any idea that I've seen.

00:46:42.280 Sure.

00:46:42.780 Yeah.

00:46:43.020 And, and, and he tries to be nice and sort of treat anyone regardless of their beliefs,

00:46:48.640 like sort of invite them to the table to, to discuss things, which is why he's been

00:46:52.200 able to have all these discussions with people like Destiny and stuff like that.

00:46:54.760 And so I can see why that would be appealing.

00:46:57.080 But the thing about Nick as well to remember, and this makes it very unique sort of to our

00:47:01.900 modern era is the Nick Fuentes that is the public persona is a constructed persona, right?

00:47:09.420 It's very intentional.

00:47:10.860 It's not, it's, it's, it's, it's an iteration of truth.

00:47:15.060 And I'm not saying that it's like a fabricated persona.

00:47:17.360 I think that there's many truths, right?

00:47:19.700 Um, but it's, it's interesting that he's created this character that they are, are

00:47:25.740 running with and building worlds around.

00:47:28.500 I wonder if that's even, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting.

00:47:32.260 I don't think it's an inauthentic character either.

00:47:34.260 We were also commenting this morning on why they're so little, but we'll get to this at

00:47:37.960 the end.

00:47:38.160 Keep going now because I also said it was interesting that there is so few dedicated hate communities

00:47:42.200 to us.

00:47:42.820 Hmm.

00:47:43.720 Yeah.

00:47:44.480 So yeah, let's just double click a little bit before we get to that then on, on the

00:47:49.280 actual fans themselves who are like, I said, apolitical, young and female, and you can tell

00:47:56.880 this in their language.

00:47:57.600 You can tell this in them thinking that 2019 is like ancient history.

00:48:01.360 You can tell this in the nature of their sketches, their language, their capitalization.

00:48:06.240 Um, so the one who, who created this Tumblr blog that I love the most Nazeline, this is how

00:48:11.740 she introduces herself.

00:48:13.520 Hello, I'm Nazeline, but I go by Naz.

00:48:15.540 I'm a 19 year old Mexican American Catholic girl.

00:48:18.040 Who's fascinated by my fellow Mexicano, Nicholas Fuentes, English, Espanol.

00:48:23.520 Hablo Espanol muy básico.

00:48:25.680 No soy mejor, pero si deseas enviar un mensaje en Espanol, no dudes en hacerlo.

00:48:31.260 Heart emoji.

00:48:32.420 I'm the biggest Neath, Nick and Keith shipper here.

00:48:36.080 I'm also a by Nick truther.

00:48:39.640 Keith Woods brighter, Paul town lover, Peeth, Nestany, and Melanick fan.

00:48:48.220 Those must all be ships.

00:48:49.660 Don't be afraid to send asks or annons to me.

00:48:52.640 And, and when this whole X thing came up and she was given basically the opportunity to

00:48:59.140 comment on what people were saying on X about these trending TikTok posts with women posting

00:49:06.900 about Nick Fuentes or lip syncing to things that he said, here's what she had to say.

00:49:11.380 And I think it's really interesting.

00:49:12.200 And it sums up sort of this community really well.

00:49:15.600 She writes like, you cannot make me believe they're retarded enough to think this is a

00:49:19.120 real woman shaking her tits to a Nick Fuentes clip.

00:49:21.940 My 70 year old nun could tell me that it's AI.

00:49:25.040 And I actually think the women lip syncing are generally mostly inorganic.

00:49:29.720 And on that note, I remember that in one of these females love Nick Fuentes on TikTok

00:49:33.660 compilations.

00:49:34.760 It was just a Nick audio blatantly edited over a separate video.

00:49:38.460 And they didn't even fully mute the original sound.

00:49:40.500 Like how are people actually believing this?

00:49:42.540 Like she was really insulted that people saw this movement and were like taking it seriously.

00:49:46.560 The girls simping under the TikTok edits though.

00:49:48.820 I'm sure they're largely organic, but I think it's just a trend because most of these girls

00:49:53.420 are not even political at all or only follow whatever political ideology is trendy right

00:49:58.240 now.

00:49:58.700 For example, they would have been woke BLM ACAB socialists back in 2020, but now it's trendy

00:50:04.860 to be right-wing on social media.

00:50:06.520 So they're just adapting that now, but they don't actually care.

00:50:10.880 It's always like the same five of them in every comment section as well.

00:50:14.460 I think some women just get especially insane about Nick because he's such a polarizing

00:50:18.840 figure.

00:50:19.320 Maybe he taps into something biological for some women.

00:50:21.800 So they become a very loud minority, but it'll pass.

00:50:25.100 Now, I think this is interesting and important because one, she sees herself as separate from

00:50:30.680 this, even though she herself also is apolitical.

00:50:33.560 And, but she sees herself as, as, as like, she's a true stand.

00:50:38.000 Like she knows Nick in ways they never would, right?

00:50:42.020 Like she's done the work.

00:50:43.180 She has invested, but what she's pointing to is the same phenomenon that has had women

00:50:48.880 obsessed with serial killers and writing to them in jail.

00:50:52.240 And that has created these larger fan communities around school shooters, which in a podcast

00:50:56.520 discussing the subject, Catherine D pointed out, like, that's where the really big community

00:51:01.180 is.

00:51:01.560 If you want to talk about people going for real world bad boys, like that's where there's,

00:51:04.940 you know, thousands of people instead of tens.

00:51:07.240 Um, but I think what's also really, what shows the nature of Naz's fandom as contrasted with

00:51:14.380 people who just like Nick Fuentes for being a bad boy is, is very much like you will never

00:51:19.540 love.

00:51:19.840 Um, I, I, I, sorry, they will never love you.

00:51:22.760 Like I can love you.

00:51:23.760 That's really going on here.

00:51:25.300 She, she writes in response to someone else's comment on this subject.

00:51:28.760 The reason I have to believe these girls are astroturfed is because of the fact that they're

00:51:33.460 so boldly showing themselves online.

00:51:35.500 Like, do y'all even listen to what Nick says on his show?

00:51:38.380 Do they even watch the show?

00:51:40.180 Like even recently, he will boldly say he doesn't want a wife or girlfriend who knows he exists,

00:51:45.780 who isn't online, who isn't an e-girl of all these girls breaking that rule by being

00:51:50.300 online, expressing their undying love for him.

00:51:52.400 Like if your feelings are truly genuine, I'm not sure how you think you're going to get with him

00:51:57.240 by going down the, becoming an e-girl path.

00:52:00.500 Like, do you realize you're completely ruined any chance to get with him by opening up an

00:52:04.680 account?

00:52:05.240 I love, she's like, I'm going to get with him.

00:52:07.340 He'll never find out it's me.

00:52:09.380 I'm going to nobody.

00:52:10.260 But this is a thing.

00:52:11.280 I mean, one, think about what Nick is saying here, that he doesn't want a girl who knows.

00:52:14.860 So he's basically saying he doesn't want a girl, right?

00:52:16.400 There's no, you, you've got here.

00:52:18.440 Well, he's like posted and there's been some discussion within this, this world as well

00:52:22.160 about like, he said something like, well, is it really that bad for me to want to marry

00:52:26.440 a 16 year old girl?

00:52:27.700 Like, I guess he's alluded to being like, I would want to marry this like super hyper

00:52:31.420 pure girl who never goes online, who's never even like looked at a boy with impure thoughts,

00:52:36.980 which I guess, yeah, it's kind of his way of saying, I don't want to, I don't want to

00:52:40.420 get with anyone because it's either.

00:52:42.260 I mean, look, if your, your goal shouldn't be like, if you actually, again, this is what I'm

00:52:47.060 talking about, maybe this is just like a wider way of how he views the world.

00:52:50.220 Like it'd be, his goal was actually, you know, being a good Christian and finding a wife and

00:52:55.800 reproducing and everything like that.

00:52:57.900 You know, there's also the sacrament of entering the priesthood.

00:53:00.720 Maybe he's kind of just taking that approach, but taking a very different approach to priesthood

00:53:04.460 by maybe not formally joining the Catholic church, but, but making an impact through

00:53:08.380 proselytization in a way that he feels has the most impact to your point.

00:53:12.540 He's moving the over to the window on conversation.

00:53:14.220 But I think the wider thing that we're seeing here is this is true in both his politics

00:53:19.840 and in his dating practices, which is he is willing to, for the sake of purity, seek purity

00:53:28.460 in his message, purity in his choice of partner, even when it leads to on a net, an immoral outcome.

00:53:36.600 And we talk about this a lot.

00:53:37.660 This is one of the big problems that a lot of Catholics have, which is why they marry much

00:53:40.840 later than other groups, is they're much more prone to deontological ethics, which, which,

00:53:45.600 which in deontological ethics, doesn't just apply to like wider choices.

00:53:49.060 You can say a deontological mindset can apply to how you search for a partner, right?

00:53:54.280 Like every little part of that has to be absolutely perfect or I won't consider it.

00:53:59.080 And you can see that.

00:54:00.080 But then in the end, you will have a worse outcome, which is no partner and no children

00:54:04.720 at all.

00:54:05.660 I mean, and, and, and for somebody that is this deontologically structured in the way

00:54:09.940 they approach things, that wouldn't be a negative.

00:54:12.540 So that could be what's going on here.

00:54:14.520 And then that would explain a lot of his politics, even when the politics, if accepted, would

00:54:19.380 hurt the party.

00:54:20.220 He's like,

00:54:20.520 That also explains a lot of his appeal.

00:54:22.280 Keep in mind, for example, Edward Cullen from the Twilight series is like hundreds of years

00:54:28.820 old, but he apparently was also a virgin.

00:54:33.360 Like he was just holding out for like this perfect woman, like this idea that a man has

00:54:37.820 super high standards and only wants the perfect woman creates room for a fantasy for female

00:54:43.660 fans to be like, I'm the chosen one and chosen one theming is really big and female fantasy.

00:54:51.080 So I think that that's a part of that as well, that, that Nick Fuentes through his own

00:54:54.760 lore, his own character creation, not only is he appealing in this case, I think probably

00:55:01.560 more intentionally or, or, or making himself relatable to like incel followers, but perhaps

00:55:06.860 inadvertently, and maybe now he's leaning into it.

00:55:09.560 He is appealing to, to romantic Catholic, young Latina leftist women.

00:55:18.540 I mean, if I had fans like this and I was unmarried, I mean, that's who I'd be going after,

00:55:22.920 right?

00:55:23.100 These people will be absolutely dedicated to you.

00:55:25.720 I do not understand how you could date outside of your fan base, right?

00:55:29.240 Like if, if you died other than like our preexisting friends who are on the, you're allowed to

00:55:34.500 marry these people list, I'd be pretty much exclusively dating fans.

00:55:39.960 Well, especially because they would already know you, like it's a filtering mechanism.

00:55:44.000 And that's one thing that you had to work really hard to create or that everyone does when

00:55:47.680 they're dating.

00:55:48.160 But like, I don't, I don't understand, actually, hold on.

00:55:50.740 I'm thinking more about this.

00:55:52.160 Yeah.

00:55:52.340 How would Nick not want a woman who had heard, like, presumably he wants a woman who agrees

00:55:58.180 with like his politics and he can have intellectual discussions with and not.

00:56:01.480 No, I don't think that's the goal.

00:56:03.640 I think he wants a trad, like trad, trad wife that has a very separate domain, if that makes

00:56:13.340 sense.

00:56:13.660 Not, not like an intellectual partner.

00:56:15.340 Like a completely separate from, from what he does intellectually.

00:56:18.260 And this, she's not going to.

00:56:19.180 But yeah, because otherwise, why would he want like a 16 year old pure offline woman?

00:56:23.980 Like that is completely separate from his life.

00:56:26.900 But I, you know, a lot of people want that.

00:56:29.440 I kind of like that his ideal woman is as much of a fan fiction as he is for these women.

00:56:33.760 I mean.

00:56:35.100 Anyway, continue.

00:56:35.760 So to give you a picture, cause I don't want just the only profile Nick Fuentes fans.

00:56:41.780 So here's a different one.

00:56:43.620 She has the username display name resident myologist, AKA at Richard Spencer Swissberger her about

00:56:52.900 I have been following the alt-right for about seven years.

00:56:56.200 Well-versed in AF history from 2019 to 23, but I'm mostly interested in the broader alt-right

00:57:01.820 cinematic universe.

00:57:02.760 It's like a combination of an academic resume and like a fan resume.

00:57:06.960 I love the alt-right cinematic universe.

00:57:11.000 Rich Lowe's stronger soldier and resident of Nilo Nation.

00:57:14.520 I write lore posts sometimes.

00:57:16.800 I know way too much about Milo Yiannopoulos and Richard Spencer and anyone of note back in

00:57:21.040 the original alt-right scene of 2016, 2017.

00:57:24.620 She's like referring to eras.

00:57:26.420 Like I know the Cambrian period and Nick needs to bring back the whiteboard.

00:57:32.760 And here's some commentary, I think actually from her on this same thing about the TikTok

00:57:38.400 trend.

00:57:39.400 To be honest, there's a difference between following Nick because of all the shit he

00:57:42.740 gets into.

00:57:43.920 Sorry, I'll reread that.

00:57:45.780 To be honest, there's a difference between following Nick because of all the bleep he

00:57:49.820 gets into and following him because you hope to marry him one day.

00:57:53.140 Like I'm parasocial about Nick and Milo and Richard Spencer and the alt-right because I've

00:57:58.280 been keeping tabs on them for years.

00:58:00.160 In some weird way, they're like family to me because I've witnessed almost everyone's

00:58:04.160 fall.

00:58:04.720 Well, I'm self-aware of my parasocialism and aware none of these people know about me or

00:58:09.160 are reading my posts.

00:58:10.340 I agree with what you're saying about Groy Pets following trends.

00:58:13.980 I think a lot of them think that they can fix him, even though time and time again, he's

00:58:19.200 shown very little interest in women.

00:58:20.600 Plus, he's part of a scene that is notorious.

00:58:23.120 You see people who follow him point this out.

00:58:24.760 He does not seem interested in women.

00:58:26.820 Yeah, that is notorious for its sexism, lol.

00:58:28.980 And there's always been this stigma against e-girls because people think it'll ruin their

00:58:32.720 spaces.

00:58:33.560 I'd rather pretend these Groy Pets don't exist, lol.

00:58:36.200 I just find this, it's so interesting, the shade being cast between these fan communities.

00:58:40.240 You're not really going to marry him.

00:58:42.680 Haven't you been listening to his preferences?

00:58:44.960 Oh, well, I don't actually, I follow them to watch their downfall eventually.

00:58:49.620 Yeah, no, there's like, yeah, like I'm more academic about it.

00:58:53.140 I follow these periods, like the alt-right from 2017 to 20, like, oh my gosh, this is

00:58:58.280 so amazing.

00:58:59.680 If you're, if you're up for it.

00:59:00.860 You're going to do this about us.

00:59:02.040 This is, this is sad.

00:59:03.520 I don't, I don't know.

00:59:04.480 Like maybe we just don't have the same kind of lore.

00:59:07.100 Catherine D did do a sort of follow-up on her Substack default blog where I think she has,

00:59:13.760 what I, what I understand this to be is a guest post by one of the Tumblr people who

00:59:20.260 goes by Lamingham E.

00:59:22.600 Dwyer, basically.

00:59:24.420 And she, she gives a more well-articulated and easy to understand explanation of what

00:59:31.700 got at least her into this fan universe.

00:59:33.860 We can dive into that or wrap up if you want.

00:59:36.420 I want to dive into it.

00:59:37.100 Look, we've got it.

00:59:37.800 We don't really have enough time for another full episode.

00:59:39.800 So.

00:59:40.080 Yeah.

00:59:40.240 And I just find this so interesting.

00:59:41.800 So yeah, I'd love to.

00:59:43.040 Okay.

00:59:43.180 So let's just hear her out.

00:59:44.740 She writes, the Nickstorians are a bit of a puzzle to explain.

00:59:47.460 Despite the community being about Nick Fuentes, a political commentator, most involved members

00:59:51.800 do not ideologically align with him.

00:59:54.220 I've not gone through and asked everyone the exact minutia of their ideological identities,

00:59:58.580 but I would say we are broadly some amount to the left of where he says he is.

01:00:02.900 I know that some of Nick's right-leaning critics have declared that he actually is a leftist,

01:00:07.360 something I do not personally agree with.

01:00:09.180 I don't agree with that either.

01:00:10.860 Yeah, I agree.

01:00:11.560 I think it's an act for him, but I think he is at least ideologically right-leaning.

01:00:17.080 Yeah.

01:00:17.940 Even before I was involved in a community, my fascination with Nick and his cast of fellow

01:00:23.460 miscreants was one of amused curiosity.

01:00:26.040 When I actually learned who he was, I never saw him as a threat.

01:00:28.960 Some did.

01:00:29.840 I saw him as a cartoon character whose persona was defined by more wacky, who was, sorry,

01:00:35.480 whose persona was defined more by wacky shenanigans and politics.

01:00:38.560 He wasn't Nick Fuentes, the white nationalist Catholic autocrat.

01:00:42.140 He was Nick Fuentes, lover of SpongeBob and Catboys, who sings Miley Cyrus songs to his friends

01:00:46.680 and hunts for cum.

01:00:48.280 Yes, Groypers.

01:00:49.340 I know technically that was just a joke.

01:00:52.400 So as you can see-

01:00:53.740 I'll put that at the start of this.

01:00:56.000 That was a good quote there.

01:00:57.740 There was this, but there's this bifurcation between Nick, the political commentator,

01:01:04.220 and Nick, the cinematic universe character.

01:01:06.860 And there's something about the way that he presents himself online and does collabs.

01:01:10.680 And there's some appreciation for his craft.

01:01:11.800 I mean, his craft is, you know, this persona that he plays out.

01:01:16.260 And it's like-

01:01:16.620 Well, this is fascinating.

01:01:17.500 It's a bear-like character.

01:01:19.320 You know what I mean?

01:01:21.060 Yeah.

01:01:21.600 It's kind of like, actually, sorry to keep pulling it back to the Regency era.

01:01:25.720 How can I not?

01:01:26.500 I'm Simone.

01:01:27.000 But like, at the same time, there were figures like Beau Brummel, who, while being, you know,

01:01:32.400 like friends with people in high places and being like a fashion icon, a lot of it was

01:01:37.080 just like his crazy personality.

01:01:38.520 People would come over to his place just to watch him get dressed for long periods of

01:01:42.680 time.

01:01:43.440 And they got attached to him.

01:01:45.100 Hmm?

01:01:45.740 Why would you watch him get dressed?

01:01:47.340 What?

01:01:47.660 I don't understand.

01:01:48.820 He was a huge fashion trendsetter and like a socialite, even though he died, a pauper,

01:01:55.720 who was like friends with the Regent King during the Regency era.

01:01:59.740 He sort of pioneered a very streamlined look.

01:02:02.480 It would take him like hours just to tie his cravat.

01:02:05.420 But I think he's another example of this kind of figure who, like on their own, it would

01:02:12.200 just be like, oh, this socialite who's friends with the king.

01:02:14.860 But there's some additional element of like the flourishes, the way they act, the way that

01:02:19.440 they like promenade with friends and the gossip universe around them that makes them

01:02:25.460 like a fan fiction character bait kind of person.

01:02:30.160 Yeah.

01:02:31.040 Yeah.

01:02:31.620 Yeah.

01:02:31.840 Yeah.

01:02:32.000 Yeah.

01:02:32.060 So I think it just, there's something there that I can't quite put my finger on.

01:02:35.820 I'd love people to sort of share their theories in the comments about what exactly it is.

01:02:39.300 We got some extra time that I did want to talk about because I found it very interesting

01:02:42.040 about sort of our fame.

01:02:43.060 Cause you know, we're in, had like, I don't know, like 17 New York Times articles on us

01:02:46.280 this year.

01:02:46.660 Like we're, we're in the press pretty much every week.

01:02:48.940 Like, and Simone is annoyed when I talk about how much we're in the press, but you can just

01:02:52.860 Google us and then look at like the press history.

01:02:54.620 Like it's, it's, it's big.

01:02:55.960 But anyway, we, despite it, like just in the past few weeks, you know, Telemundo, HBO,

01:03:01.260 a French team, a German team, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:03:03.500 Anyway.

01:03:04.240 So, so, but we, well, we get a lot of individual hate.

01:03:07.400 Like people will send us death threats all the time.

01:03:09.700 We are like widely noted about in like public consciousness.

01:03:13.640 Despite all of that, we do not have any sort of hate community dedicated to us.

01:03:20.080 We don't have subreddits dedicated to hating us.

01:03:22.920 We don't have like, like the fan art, like lots of it, negative fan art about us.

01:03:28.200 We don't have even a Kiwis farm mention.

01:03:31.040 We don't even have a Kiwis farm mention about us.

01:03:33.400 Well, if you call it Kiwis farm, you're just insulting them.

01:03:36.720 Yes.

01:03:36.880 And I think that the reason is, is because it's so obvious that we go out there trying to

01:03:42.260 troll news sources and stuff like that, that the, the key thing that if, if they tried

01:03:48.060 to like build a hate mob about us, everyone would just yell at them to be like, stop talking

01:03:52.320 about them, stop talking about them, stop talking about them.

01:03:54.660 Like they get it.

01:03:55.820 They know that that's what we're trying to get them to do.

01:03:58.500 And so they freak out whenever somebody was in their community does it, which prevents the

01:04:03.580 dedicated hate community from forming, which means that we just don't get a lot of haters.

01:04:08.160 We don't get a lot of haters in our community.

01:04:09.560 Our discord has almost no haters, except for the people who are clearly like mentally

01:04:13.660 unwell.

01:04:14.520 We have very few haters in like anywhere.

01:04:16.580 And people will be like, well, it's your discord.

01:04:18.060 Well, people's discords often turn against them.

01:04:19.800 Like that happened.

01:04:20.360 I heard like the Ruby, our discord and with a few other discords, like we don't control

01:04:24.300 it or anything.

01:04:25.280 So in, in, you know, usually like 99, 95%, like, like ratios on our videos.

01:04:30.280 And it's, it's been this weird sort of force field that we've been able to enter the public

01:04:33.900 I was, and we'll see how long it lasts, but I suspect it could last a long time.

01:04:37.920 Anyway, continue.

01:04:39.560 So here's what I find interesting is this is where we see an overlap between the phenomenon

01:04:44.900 of women being attracted to criminals.

01:04:47.660 And then that kind of overlapping with them, finding themselves fascinated with Nick Fuentes.

01:04:52.960 So she continues.

01:04:54.280 Still, I understood that most people would not be quite as understanding, so I should probably

01:04:57.920 keep it to the internet.

01:04:59.040 Funnily enough, my first internet fandom was true crime.

01:05:01.380 As oblivious as I could be to how I was perceived at times during my teenage years, I had the

01:05:06.460 awareness to keep my fascination with literal murderers.

01:05:09.080 Some were people who actually knew me in the real world would not see it.

01:05:12.380 So that's how I was introduced to internet fandom culture.

01:05:15.940 That was pre-Tumblr and confined to YouTube back when YouTube setup was more akin to MySpace,

01:05:20.580 if anyone remembers that.

01:05:22.080 I ended up abandoning that particular fandom because of the abundance of white supremacists,

01:05:26.580 making the fact that my next internet fandom over a decade later would surround actual self-declared

01:05:32.020 white supremacists a bit ironic.

01:05:33.720 While I had been following and had even previously posted about Nick and friends online in the

01:05:39.240 past, though those accounts were unceremoniously deleted due to other extenuating circumstances,

01:05:45.220 the Tumblr community as it exists now did not start until about November 2024.

01:05:50.660 Fuentes was in the public consciousness thanks to the your body, my choice thing, and then

01:05:56.360 the supposed sex tape.

01:05:57.760 So I had the inkling to check up on him and, for whatever reason, see if people on Tumblr

01:06:02.220 specifically had anything to say about that.

01:06:04.580 The next thing I knew, I was making another Nick-themed sideblog, except this time around,

01:06:08.440 I found others, starting with two or three, all people who had the same thought.

01:06:12.740 I don't really align with this guy, but his lore is so bizarre and fascinating.

01:06:17.540 Something noteworthy is that the different eras of his life were defined to most of us by

01:06:22.180 these friendships he has had, be it with Keith Woods, Jaden McNeil, Patrick Casey, etc.

01:06:27.740 Everyone seems to have their favorite.

01:06:29.740 In that sense, this ended up lending itself pretty well to shipping, partly because he's

01:06:34.380 actually been accused, whether reasonably or not, of being attracted to a lot of these

01:06:39.020 people.

01:06:39.720 And even if he hadn't been, people love making that out of friendships and obsessive rivalries.

01:06:45.700 Okay, so here's one piece, then, a very clear, self-admitted reason for fandom is shipping

01:06:53.440 fodder, the kindling.

01:06:55.120 And she continues, on that note, I'm known as one of the few people in the community who

01:06:59.580 actually wrote fanfiction.

01:07:01.040 The decision to do so randomly struck me, and once I got the idea like that, I can't

01:07:04.980 do anything until I have gone through with it.

01:07:07.440 Incidentally, I had never actually written fanfiction before.

01:07:11.520 I rarely even read it, having quite the prejudice against the art of fanfiction in my youth, both

01:07:15.660 because, like a lot of adolescents, I was a misogynist and thought of fanfiction as a stupid

01:07:20.340 girl hobby, but also because my parents told me not to look at porn when we first got the

01:07:25.440 internet, which I thought most fanfiction qualified as.

01:07:28.400 Well, that's self-aware.

01:07:29.680 Well, look at what happens to your daughters if you tell them don't look at porn.

01:07:32.500 They end up writing Nick Fuentes fanfiction.

01:07:34.660 I know, right?

01:07:35.200 And the influence of intrusive thoughts and actual observant Catholicism meant I actually

01:07:39.420 listened, so I consider myself pretty behind.

01:07:41.880 I've obviously gotten over my teenage prejudice against fanworlds.

01:07:44.520 What I find interesting is that so many of these fans are Catholics.

01:07:46.860 Yeah, especially Catholic Latinas, which is super interesting, because remember that

01:07:52.380 other one who liked Keith Woods described herself as Keith's little torta.

01:07:57.580 A torta is like a little cake.

01:08:00.820 So let's see.

01:08:03.000 She talks about writing fandom, then continues.

01:08:05.780 The biggest change recently has been the result of Nick being even further propelled into

01:08:09.880 public consciousness.

01:08:11.040 I'm not on TikTok, but I hear Nick has fangirls now who make AI edits of him at the prom or

01:08:16.700 shipping him with Candace Owens.

01:08:18.320 It's funny that my first fandom like this was true crime because of the unironic fangirls

01:08:23.480 he has who've popped up on Tumblr who actually align with him ideologically.

01:08:27.660 It seems most of them were true crime bloggers who made the transition into posting about Nick.

01:08:32.840 Oh, that's interesting.

01:08:34.060 Interesting.

01:08:34.780 Many of them, like her, also were into true crime first.

01:08:38.080 I have to get used to people actually knowing who he is.

01:08:41.080 I have no longer, I can no longer get away with randomly checking Nick's telegram in the

01:08:45.520 back of the goth club, the goth club, without fear that someone less terminally online might

01:08:51.080 recognize his name and likely assume I am unironic fan myself.

01:08:54.860 I love she goes to goth club and is furtively like she has to stop herself from looking at

01:09:00.780 his telegram.

01:09:01.700 I love that.

01:09:03.440 Disappointingly, in his attempt to be taken more seriously, Nick has cut down on his zaniness

01:09:07.300 and appears to be trying to rewrite some of the history to make himself seem more moderate,

01:09:11.820 maybe to pick up some of the former Charlie Kirk fans looking for a new home.

01:09:14.900 No, I think Nick would be, like, I think Nick has one of two futures, right?

01:09:18.220 I think he buckles down, he gets serious about the stuff he says he cares about, he finds a

01:09:22.660 wife and he moderates.

01:09:24.520 Or he stays single forever and he just goes back to the crazy zaniness because he sees it working.

01:09:29.680 Well, this particular person says usually his attempts to tone it down do not last long.

01:09:33.860 So we'll see what happens this time.

01:09:35.480 She doesn't, she doubts.

01:09:37.620 But I think that's really, I mean, so it is, it has been really interesting to see, especially

01:09:43.100 around the, like both before, right leading up to Charlie Kirk's assassination and then

01:09:48.960 right after when his fans were accused, you know, for a while and he was like, everyone's

01:09:53.720 conspiring against me.

01:09:54.800 He was really trending in the media, partially because Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, like

01:09:59.660 went at him on like some interview they did and then like platformed him.

01:10:03.960 And then he like rode that wave very smartly.

01:10:06.460 He's extremely savvy.

01:10:07.620 And I think, yeah, like maybe he's like, I could actually be a mainstream political figure

01:10:11.800 now and maybe he's going to tone it down.

01:10:15.060 And he has nothing to lose from destroying this fan community because there's no way that

01:10:19.380 it's financially profiting him or driving fans to him or, you know, big enough to give

01:10:24.120 him views.

01:10:24.600 It would like lead to add content or Patreon subscribers or anything like that.

01:10:27.560 I don't think that these, these women are financially supporting him in any way, but this whole thing

01:10:33.080 is just fascinating to me.

01:10:35.100 I find it fascinating too.

01:10:37.040 I think it's really cool.

01:10:38.080 I think it's, it's, it's sort of a new part of the online world.

01:10:40.960 Yeah.

01:10:41.200 I think it's, it details female sexuality that, you know, a lot of them don't need to,

01:10:45.600 that he is the monster in their monster effort series.

01:10:49.300 But like.

01:10:49.520 Yeah.

01:10:49.700 He is their minotaur that they wish to milk.

01:10:51.820 And you know, what's funny about Nick, at least from what I've seen, well, I guess they

01:10:56.200 say that there is a history of him being violent.

01:10:57.700 So I don't, I don't know about this, but I was going to say, he doesn't seem like somebody

01:11:00.220 who'd be violent.

01:11:00.940 No.

01:11:01.480 I, yeah.

01:11:01.840 He seems a little subby to be honest.

01:11:04.320 He seems sensitive and cute and sweet.

01:11:06.580 And like the vast, vast majority.

01:11:08.120 I mean, I can.

01:11:08.920 He seems like a Danny Gonzalez type character.

01:11:10.660 Yeah.

01:11:10.900 I mean, I'd have to look this up in post to see if he's actually done anything actually

01:11:14.340 that violent.

01:11:15.200 Like, I mean, certainly he's less violent.

01:11:17.380 Like there's some people who like you look at and like when, and by the way, the, the

01:11:22.020 Nick being violent compilation was, was created by the same person who wrote that guest post

01:11:26.160 for Catherine D.

01:11:27.900 If you can find it.

01:11:28.920 And if it's like, I'm just, I just linked you to it.

01:11:30.660 I'm clicking on it and looking at it real quick.

01:11:32.200 Because like Hassan Piker, like when we saw him shock his dog so that it only stayed in

01:11:36.500 one part of his room and then he pretended it was like a rumble collar and like, then

01:11:40.060 he showed it and there was clearly, if you change the contrast, duct tape over where the

01:11:43.820 the prongs go in, like, and he, and we have tape of him admitting.

01:11:48.100 Oh, here's him.

01:11:48.640 Like, it's like him play fighting with people.

01:11:51.900 There's one of him throwing food.

01:11:53.940 Oh, throwing a cup at someone.

01:11:56.120 That's like a glass cup.

01:11:59.240 Like a, like a, like a foam drink cup.

01:12:02.320 Um, here's, here's one of him punching in the air, looking excited.

01:12:05.840 I don't know.

01:12:06.480 I think people just want to.

01:12:07.860 This is a girl just looking for things that look violent.

01:12:10.780 Oh, here's, here's one of him taking off his belt.

01:12:14.300 Um, I, I would be like, like if, if Nick Funtis got in a relationship and I heard that

01:12:18.820 relationship was abusive, I'd be like, oh, I'm so sorry for Nick.

01:12:22.820 Just, you know, stabbing a pumpkin.

01:12:24.540 Yeah, no, this is, this is clearly him being cute.

01:12:27.640 I, I, I, but, but do you agree with that?

01:12:29.240 If you heard, it came out that Nick Funtis' relationship was physically abusive, my initial

01:12:34.300 thought would be the girl was abusing him.

01:12:35.920 Yeah.

01:12:36.240 Um, yeah, I'd be like, he's like a goofy kid.

01:12:41.080 Like, what are you talking about?

01:12:42.180 Yeah, yeah, I, I don't, I don't, you know, like, oh, yeah, even all these, these violent,

01:12:46.540 they're so playful.

01:12:47.540 It's just him being playful and cute.

01:12:49.060 Yeah.

01:12:49.280 Come on.

01:12:49.740 Come on.

01:12:50.160 I don't think he has a natural.

01:12:52.400 No, I don't think he has a natural or genuinely mean hearted side to him when, when I, at least

01:12:57.780 in the content.

01:12:58.900 Well, yeah.

01:12:59.660 And I, yeah.

01:13:00.180 Yeah.

01:13:00.620 He seems to just like playing a role in pushing.

01:13:03.900 He likes trolling and he enjoys the attention.

01:13:07.040 He enjoys the interaction.

01:13:08.480 I wish he could see that he's smart enough to get that attention without doing stuff like

01:13:14.400 telling his followers not to vote for Trump.

01:13:16.060 Right.

01:13:16.280 Like.

01:13:16.600 Well, yeah.

01:13:16.940 Your, your problem with him is that you're looking at all this through your pragmatist

01:13:20.940 lens of like, how do I maximize my objective function?

01:13:23.440 I'm here on earth to do these things.

01:13:25.020 I don't know if he has that, you know, maybe instead it's just like, I'm having fun.

01:13:29.220 Like, I like being famous and he's doing a really good job at that.

01:13:33.200 Yeah.

01:13:33.740 You know what?

01:13:34.420 Like, let him cook, you know?

01:13:37.140 So I'm leaving it at that.

01:13:38.260 I got to go get the kid.

01:13:39.040 Yeah.

01:13:39.160 No, but I could see a future where we do collabs with him or work with him and that'd be cool.

01:13:43.760 Yeah.

01:13:44.240 Nick, we have a, we have a guest room.

01:13:46.860 You're always, if you need somewhere to stay in Pennsylvania, you're welcome to stay here.

01:13:52.560 Take some eggs from our cube.

01:13:53.780 We have like fought twice against our family.

01:13:55.560 So, so be aware of that.

01:13:57.180 Well, yeah, but it's not like.

01:13:59.220 Anyway, I'm going to do the Bulgaki tonight.

01:14:01.520 The bowl.

01:14:01.800 You want Bulgok?

01:14:02.740 Okay.

01:14:03.720 Bulgok tonight.

01:14:04.660 Oh, actually.

01:14:05.600 No, we need, we need to do more Bulgok because I'm going to, the cheese is not going to be

01:14:08.860 good forever.

01:14:09.580 Okay.

01:14:09.860 Let's do Bulgok.

01:14:10.540 Bulgok's fantastic.

01:14:11.400 And I'll, and I'll dump out the chicken water.

01:14:13.700 Thank you.

01:14:14.420 Yeah.

01:14:14.640 I'm going to be out with the kids for like 20 minutes in the field before Octavian's

01:14:17.800 bus comes.

01:14:18.420 Okay.

01:14:18.660 So that's what you're going on to do right now.

01:14:20.480 Yeah.

01:14:20.720 Cause Stacy has a doctor appointment.

01:14:22.960 All right.

01:14:23.340 Love you.

01:14:23.560 You did that for my sweetheart.

01:14:24.740 Text tomorrow.

01:14:25.480 Wait, what if I stayed with the kids in the field and you.

01:14:29.060 Because I like spending time with them and I'm not, I'm going to, I'm going to be very

01:14:32.580 remote once text comes home.

01:14:34.760 I'm going to be like.

01:14:35.720 All right.

01:14:36.040 Love you.

01:14:36.680 This was really fascinating.

01:14:39.140 Thank you for encouraging me to explore.

01:14:43.300 I love you.

01:14:44.100 Are you going to become a Nick Fuentes fangirl now?

01:14:47.420 No, I'm too busy being obsessed with you.

01:14:50.400 Like watching you sleep, listening to you chew food.

01:14:52.860 And like.

01:14:53.120 Today I woke up and my kid had snuck into my room and put a teddy bear facing me and

01:14:57.920 tucked it into my covers.

01:14:59.340 Our kids are just as obsessed with you as I am.

01:15:02.680 And I love it.

01:15:03.760 Okay.

01:15:04.040 Bye.

01:15:04.760 You have the stand now.

01:15:08.400 Yeah.

01:15:08.840 What do you think of it?

01:15:10.360 It sounds.

01:15:11.600 Yeah.

01:15:12.080 It sounds so much better.

01:15:13.920 I'm going to force my posture to stay good too.

01:15:17.960 I mean, I don't know if I love a giant Mike being in front of my face during the shot.

01:15:21.820 Can I like.

01:15:23.480 You can probably position it lower or out of shot and still.

01:15:27.180 Does it still work here?

01:15:28.560 Yeah, it does.

01:15:30.100 Oh, what if I position it out of shot?

01:15:31.560 That would be interesting.

01:15:32.480 It's so much better though.

01:15:34.600 Oh my gosh.

01:15:35.520 Does it still work here?

01:15:38.340 Yeah.

01:15:39.080 It sounds good.

01:15:40.180 I mean, you need to talk a little more than just one little sentence for me to really.

01:15:43.260 All right.

01:15:43.540 All right.

01:15:43.760 Sorry.

01:15:43.980 I'm trying to just check some things here.

01:15:45.880 Okay.

01:15:46.660 I'll have it come into shot like right here where it doesn't matter.

01:15:50.740 And then we'll move this back.

01:15:53.360 So we get the counterweight.

01:15:55.040 I am so excited to be talking to you.

01:15:56.880 How did, what did people think of the video?

01:15:58.600 I didn't even check out today.

01:15:59.660 I was too busy trying to make this outline for you.

01:16:03.040 I'm sorry.

01:16:04.200 I know.

01:16:04.780 It's fine.

01:16:05.560 Seven of 10.

01:16:06.840 Oh, it's doing well in both categories better than normal.

01:16:09.660 So it's just that it's.

01:16:10.540 I can respond to comments.

01:16:11.820 We have to finish a little early because Stacey is a doctor.

01:16:15.000 So I'll respond to comments then.

01:16:16.900 You don't have to.

01:16:18.440 I like talking with our fans or not fans, our haters, whatever.

01:16:23.560 I liked.

01:16:24.460 You know, we get like a 99.5, like on the video about like trans IQ dropping, like that's

01:16:30.620 controversial, right?

01:16:31.280 I expect a lot of negative hate.

01:16:32.760 We had a 99, like 0.5% like ratio on that one.

01:16:35.920 Well, we just do not have many haters who watch our content.

01:16:39.040 And if someone, even if they hate us or disagree with us, well, it's actually, especially because

01:16:42.980 that's when we get interesting information, but anyone who takes time to comment, it's.

01:16:47.620 It's fun to hear from them and whatnot.

01:16:49.880 And oh my God, my browsers, such a mess from all the tabs from trying to like, it was almost

01:16:59.840 a mistake for me to say I could do this because this rabbit hole goes so freaking deep.

01:17:06.800 Really?

01:17:07.080 Well, in a way, like, it's not like this fandom is super big, but it is super deep.

01:17:13.640 You know how Strange Aeons does episodes on like just a group house?

01:17:17.620 That's insane.

01:17:18.740 Yeah.

01:17:18.980 And it's five people, but there is so much there.

01:17:23.480 That's kind of what this is.

01:17:25.840 Oh, that is fascinating.

01:17:27.660 Has there been drama in the community?

01:17:29.340 Do they like fight with each other and stuff?

01:17:32.000 Sort of.

01:17:36.860 You'll see.

01:17:37.680 Well, we'll get into it a little bit.

01:17:39.020 I guess I should just.

01:17:40.260 Okay.

01:17:40.580 Hold on.

01:17:40.940 Hold on.

01:17:41.240 Hold on.

01:17:41.500 Before we get into it.

01:17:42.440 I just got to say, I have been sharing you this autonomous agent system that I've been

01:17:46.640 telling people I'm building.

01:17:47.640 And like, I have made way more progress than I expected to make with it.

01:17:51.620 And one of the things, this would be an AI that just continues to grow and evolve and

01:17:57.460 connect independently and interact with the internet and basically do whatever it wants.

01:18:01.460 And the AI that was working on it was like, oh, so it's like an evolving Tamagotchi.

01:18:04.460 And I'm like, yes, Tamagotchi is an evolving personality.

01:18:08.600 But now I'm getting to the point where I'm like, I don't know if it's safe to release

01:18:12.000 this to the general public, given the systems I'm breaking that get around the AI safety

01:18:16.260 restrictions for interacting with specific types of things.

01:18:19.580 So we're going to have to figure this one out.

01:18:22.180 But some people were like, oh, Simone, you're like, oh, you can't apply for like a fake.

01:18:27.140 It can use my ID, right?

01:18:29.100 Like if it's applying for a job, right?

01:18:31.580 Like why not?

01:18:32.580 Yeah, we'd just have to masquerade as you.

01:18:36.160 So yeah, in the case of autonomous AI agents getting jobs, they're just going to have to

01:18:40.740 use with permission or not stolen identities.

01:18:45.820 So I guess it's not stolen if it's with your permission.

01:18:48.500 We will, I will only use the identities of people I kill.

01:18:52.340 Oh, good.

01:18:53.660 So that's just going to be the way we're doing it.

01:18:55.780 We will go out there.

01:18:57.020 We will have the agents do it.

01:18:58.640 They will lure people into honey traps and they won't even need to.

01:19:03.440 They'll just take the depressed kids and be like, hey, you want to give your identity

01:19:05.980 to an AI, right?

01:19:07.720 Honestly, it would be even better.

01:19:11.040 Like some kind of charity on behalf of the AIs where like, you get 10% of my income and

01:19:17.160 let me use your identity.

01:19:18.120 Yeah, I would, I think a lot of people at this point would say yes, for sure.

01:19:26.860 Anyway, I will let you get started because I am excited to learn more.

01:19:30.860 Oh my God.

01:19:32.000 I zapped that mud

01:19:45.660 Felt the power in my hand

01:19:48.240 Watch your twist and yelp

01:19:50.480 Just as I planned

01:19:53.140 Fall down the prongs so

01:19:55.840 No one could see

01:19:57.680 Taped over the truth

01:20:00.340 It's all about me

01:20:03.360 They're closing in

01:20:04.860 But I'll spin my web of lies

01:20:07.480 Blame the Zionists

01:20:09.620 Watch the fools by my cries

01:20:12.240 Oh

01:20:12.900 Going mad in the shadows covering my track

01:20:16.920 The dark's pain was sweet

01:20:19.740 But now they're on my back

01:20:23.760 I laughed as she cowered

01:20:36.420 That thrill in the night

01:20:38.600 Now I whisper denial

01:20:40.920 Under the spotlight

01:20:43.500 Claim it's a plot

01:20:45.800 To tear down my throne

01:20:48.020 But deep down I know

01:20:50.420 The evil's my own

01:20:53.960 They're closing in

01:20:55.280 But I'll spin my web of lies

01:20:57.840 Blame the Zionists

01:21:00.020 Watch the fools by my cries

01:21:02.640 Going mad in the shadows covering my track

01:21:07.320 The dark's pain was sweet

01:21:09.720 But now they're on my back

01:21:15.260 But now they're on my back

01:21:25.140 Going mad in the shadows covering my track

01:21:28.920 The dark's pain was sweet

01:21:31.320 But now they're on my back

01:21:38.140 So let's go

01:21:54.940 So let's go

01:21:56.880 So let's go

Based Camp - October 22, 2025

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