Based Camp - Are ＂Trad Wives＂ Just E-Girls？

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be going over the

00:00:05.900 tire fire that has become the trad wife movement the trad husband movement recently with some big

00:00:12.280 big scandals in it that are very entertaining i i went into these scandals and i was like oh

00:00:17.660 this is just so juicy you know you see people being bad and then the bad people get their

00:00:23.560 comeuppance and everything falls apart for them and they go crazy and you're just loving every step

00:00:30.320 of it because they were so inauthentic and terrible to begin with and and then your your friends come

00:00:37.780 in the the the other weird random conservatives like milo was inside gossip you know still still

00:00:43.840 playing that role and then you get even on the base camp subreddit one of the posts and i'll i'll play

00:00:51.940 it is like showing what trad wives are actually like and it's like that that oh thank you brother

00:00:58.640 god bless you she's the real deal men of honor deserve women of virtue she's perfect bro

00:01:03.020 another easy 600 trad queens gotta eat so pure bro look at her pray hands sending 50 worth it three

00:01:11.280 roses she'll notice me for sure heart jake you're such a gentleman y'all are such blessings back to

00:01:15.760 the garden now trad wife cosplay every night across living rooms like this young conservative men embark on

00:01:21.200 a sacred ritual simping their muse a virtuous bread baking trad angel on live stream oh thank you

00:01:27.120 the trad wife influencers are often just really e-thoughts that are dressing up like trad wives

00:01:33.580 and manipulating men with fake personas no more than the the you know girl who decides she's gonna dress

00:01:40.820 up like a goth and like bounce her ta-ta's around to try to get donations right like that's what's so

00:01:46.560 funny is that people seem to think that women who engage in this is this form of very conspicuous

00:01:54.160 signaling are are trad wives like if you're a trad wife you're someone who lives in very deep

00:01:59.380 alignment with their goals and is probably not very online and someone who invests very heavily in

00:02:04.220 signaling is is is very much going against what it means to be a trad wife and we talked about this a

00:02:10.000 little bit in the peacocking episode the tldr of it is if someone is signaling or peacocking in a way

00:02:16.260 where they're really trying to show like my appearance is expensive and and and like i'm trying

00:02:22.080 to catch your attention as a reproductive mate it's typically because they expect to invest

00:02:28.460 disproportionately a little in your relationship in your child rearing so you don't want to go after

00:02:34.120 someone who's very made up who's peacocking yeah you're not going to be there for you the very

00:02:38.380 definition of a trad wife i mean like functionally is that a trad wife is someone who really shows up

00:02:43.200 for the marriage they're going to be homeschooling the kid they're going to be cooking all the dinners

00:02:47.080 they're going to be doing all the work possibly also while making an income and i do think that

00:02:52.280 people like hannah nealman really are bringing everything to the relationship but i don't think

00:02:58.160 that she dressed like a trad wife when he met her i don't think that she put on the trad wife persona

00:03:02.240 when he met her i think that what i've seen of the women who become good trad wives is that they

00:03:07.940 are not trad wives when their husbands start dating them they don't present that way they don't act

00:03:12.520 that way it is a persona they pick up later because they want to contribute to the relationship as much

00:03:17.380 as they possibly can yeah let's get into the drama okay yes so will setka lived a quiet life rooted in

00:03:25.480 face and political activism until allegations against his wife sarah stock pulled him into a viral storm

00:03:31.760 as claims of an affair with elijah schaefer spread online many began asking who he is and how he

00:03:39.540 became central to this controversy sarah stock and elijah schaefer's affair allegations have rocked not

00:03:45.940 only turning points usa fans but also brought her husband will setka into the spotlight in conservative

00:03:52.840 influencer spaces image is everything faith marriage modesty and traditional values often form the

00:03:59.940 backbone of personal branding that is why the recent controversy surrounding stock now sarah setka

00:04:06.440 has drawn such intense online attention allegations of an affair with conservative commentator elijah

00:04:12.820 schaefer have not only put her reputation under scrutiny but have also pulled her husband will setka

00:04:18.560 into the spotlight he never sought as social media debates hypocrisy morality many are asking the simpler

00:04:25.660 question who is will setka the man at the center of the storm created by claims about his wife's past

00:04:32.460 actions all right so a whirlwind romance went viral sarah stock and will setka's engagement in august

00:04:40.540 2025 was widely shared across social media sarah posted pictures of her ring in fields of flowers while

00:04:47.580 speaking about purity waiting for marriage and traditional courtship the wedding in january 2026 gained even more

00:04:54.040 attention when the couple shared photographs from the vatican after receiving papal blessing from pope leo

00:04:59.880 the 14th there's latin numbers there dressed in bridal attire the images quickly spread online

00:05:08.600 and here they have a post from milo where he says let's start with sarah's stock so he's releasing

00:05:15.420 private images of messages he had with her wait right after she got married

00:05:20.600 and so he says if your husband doesn't know now is the time i understand you won't see it like this for a long

00:05:28.500 time but as you can see from above it is better for everyone that things come out in one burst today

00:05:35.040 instead of metastasizing over weeks don't let him find out from somebody else so first i like that milo

00:05:42.420 has the chill correct take on this yet you you cheated tell your husband now make this a thing

00:05:51.180 between you guys and stop this right but no she wanted to keep cheating is basically what we learned

00:05:56.160 and if she told him she wouldn't be able to so and also milo was a bro and not releasing all of this

00:06:02.440 until after all of this goes viral right like after it's all public he kept her secret for a long time

00:06:08.040 so he goes on to say in february 2025 sarah stock and elijah schaefer began sleeping together

00:06:14.400 the affair ended on the day she got engaged about six months later in that time they experienced

00:06:20.380 multiple pregnancy scares it's alleged by one former acquaintance that sarah got at least one abortion

00:06:25.760 oh my god i'm telling you catholic sarah captioned one post saying she highly recommended getting a

00:06:36.100 marriage blessed by the pope at the time the images were praised as a symbol of devotion and faith

00:06:40.440 in hindsight critics now view the timing of these posts through a very different lens when she's

00:06:46.380 still sleeping with other guy okay so elijah schaefer and surestock scandal allegations shocked the

00:06:52.480 internet the controversy erupted after claims circulated online that sarah had a month-long

00:06:59.660 affair with eliza schaefer her former boss at rift tv the claims are amplified by post for milo yiannopoulos

00:07:06.740 yeah her boss oh how chad right

00:07:10.620 and the claims were amplified by posts from milo yiannopoulos who alleged that their relationship

00:07:18.680 began in early 2025 and overlapped with her courtship of will he says milo says here i'm in

00:07:25.240 touch with elijah i told him to get off the internet for a couple weeks and go to rehab it's better for

00:07:30.220 everyone to just rip the band-aid off so i'll share with you over the next few hours the info doing the

00:07:37.240 rounds in private at least what i've been able to confirm so i'm getting the full images here so we can

00:07:43.060 get the full text here i've seen a dossier someone put together everything is coming out my advice is to

00:07:48.000 check yourself into his facility sooner rather than later there may be a life for you after this

00:07:52.420 but it's going to depend on being totally honest about all the details and it's going to require

00:07:57.940 sympathy as far as i can see drug addiction is the only card you have left to play if i were you i

00:08:04.020 would go out of my way to be a generous and decent with the wife and kids this cross filing in other

00:08:10.580 states for divorce is insultingly childish and stupid he also by the way crashed out on his wife

00:08:16.760 observers will be asking haven't you put the port be through enough the investors don't matter if

00:08:23.660 they met you and still wrote a check that's on them i'm sure it'll be a while before you are ready

00:08:28.680 to start putting your life back together but when you are i will be there to help you i've been trying

00:08:33.920 to signal to you for the past year or so to cut off the bs and talk to me i was hoping everybody could

00:08:41.080 avoid this you may wish to be offline for the next week or two and he goes what do you mean

00:08:47.800 cease and desisting people right now but i got my car back so that's good he milo then says are you

00:08:54.420 stupid and the other guy goes what do you mean wait i'm just seeing the top of this hey man i'm going

00:08:59.540 through some tough things can you help me out here what dossier shot you a call your tweets and then

00:09:04.720 milo says in response your tweets have been so erratic and insane people are asking if you killed

00:09:09.100 your family there is a dossier being circulated that reveals all the details about rift's collapse

00:09:14.280 you're drinking slash substance abuse the affair with sarah stock treatment of your wife sexual

00:09:19.780 habits and perversions alleged prostitution your wife's filing for divorce and then you're filing

00:09:25.540 back in different states so you can make it out that you dumped her it's safe to assume everything in

00:09:31.240 your life is about to hit the internet starting in at the beginning of my text now that you know this

00:09:35.860 you won't take it but i'm very strong advice is that you get off the internet for two weeks and

00:09:40.720 check into rehab and be very effing nice to your wife whether or not you have a professional future

00:09:46.380 depends on it nobody believes this horse s you're posting about your car either you got away with being

00:09:53.100 manic for a while but the bill is now due you are a very poor liar it is not your forte you should find

00:09:59.940 another profession one in which you tell the truth oh my god for one i love milo being so sane i mean it

00:10:09.860 is kind of slimy that he put all of this public but also you know this guy is being an a-hole right

00:10:18.760 now like i do not feel sympathy for him and you will feel less sympathy if the story goes on sarah stock and

00:10:24.480 now we're going to another tweet this is from buckaroo sarah stock called other women whores and

00:10:29.320 sluts while she cheated on her fiance multiple times despite a blessing from the pope himself

00:10:36.140 and her being a quote-unquote trad catholic and then allegedly had an abortion due to cheating

00:10:42.900 and then they have a uh nick fuentes clip of him just being like

00:10:47.980 leaked audio clips and social media threads suggest that sarah had confessed to the affair privately while

00:10:57.340 publicly maintaining an image of purity and traditional values and this i find the nick

00:11:01.700 fuentes thing ironic because the the underground rumors i hear in right-wing circles is he sleeps

00:11:07.040 around with women all the time he just pretends to be celibate which uh i think is you know better than

00:11:13.260 it being true that he's gay right like especially given his his public image not not that it's worse to

00:11:19.160 sleep around than be gay i just think that it would hurt his reputation less if that was true and it

00:11:24.120 does sort of explain why he's in no hurry at all to get married because you know as a straight guy

00:11:31.160 that's very confusing to you right like if i was a straight guy and i believe the things nick fuentes

00:11:35.920 did about stuff like masturbation i would be constantly desperate to get married it makes no

00:11:40.860 sense and he has women that are just like i will marry you if you're he has an entire community of

00:11:46.520 fangirls right like this is what i'm talking about when i talk about hypocrisy among parts of the circle

00:11:52.620 and what i want to end this with is like how do you tell the hypocrites from the non-hypocrites

00:11:56.120 and for me i'm gonna be honest i think it's super easy okay so what's your secret

00:12:02.300 the hypocrites are the hierarchical deontological types who are really obsessed with proper form

00:12:11.120 examples would be steve bannon so i'm not just putting this on the catholic creators who recently

00:12:17.480 came out as having been epstein's best bro and after it came out that he's like molesting kids

00:12:23.180 is trying to put out this big feature leaf documentary revitalizing his image showing

00:12:28.180 he's not that bad a guy recreating his branding like clearly he put a lot of effort into this and

00:12:33.080 a lot of money into helping epstein after after the allegations were clear specifically trying to

00:12:38.140 make the allegations disappear wow so you know i i think that this sort of type and you see this in the

00:12:44.460 conservative circle everybody knows what we're talking about this is what what defined the old

00:12:47.780 gop right right if you look at the new right creators is anything scandalous ever going to come

00:12:54.180 out about like say asthma gold or leaflet no i i would be astonished like genuinely astonished if

00:13:02.580 it turned out that asthma gold was doing something horrible like sleep sleeping around a bunch or something

00:13:08.660 like that or treating women really poorly or if it came out that leaflet acted in a horrible way i'd be

00:13:14.000 like what are you or kirsha i would be shocked if kirsha she'd never and i think even kirsha's

00:13:19.200 catholic right so i'm not even just saying like you know i know she's got that big bostonian accent

00:13:23.240 so i i always assume in my head when i hear the the the bostonian irish accent i'm like but yeah

00:13:28.620 even even nourish i would be shocked because she comes off as so like just jane but also these people

00:13:34.180 i think that the bigger thing for me is how much time do they spend talking about ideas

00:13:41.780 or concepts versus talking about themselves their lifestyles and who they are life

00:13:49.020 authenticity is about showing not telling i really actions over words so if you talk about well i'm this

00:13:57.480 i'm that and you also show i'm like i am i am a trad wife i am a virtuous christian husband and you

00:14:04.820 post about it and this guy who is sarah whatever had her affair with would post things very

00:14:11.120 conspicuously on x like here i am taking care of the kids while my wife goes to the gym to get back

00:14:17.560 to her pre-pregnancy body guys you've got to support your housewife and getting out to the gym

00:14:23.460 and like just stupid like very very tell don't show and i think that's more than that this other

00:14:32.400 woman when she's calling other women who sleep around a lot like bees and hoes and stuff like

00:14:37.060 that right while she's doing it i think that's a really good indicator like can you guys imagine

00:14:43.160 simone calling a woman who sleeps around a lot a bee or a hoe like i i think that to our audience

00:14:49.760 that would almost be comical i must insult people who do i insult on this podcast who do i insult

00:14:56.480 literally the only group we ever insult are catholics and sometimes jews i don't i don't

00:15:01.580 insult catholics or jews yeah you don't you don't even do that oh i'm really sorry anyone working

00:15:07.420 in a bureaucracy i'm so sorry you don't see them as human anymore no i don't want to shoot nobody

00:15:12.420 they're just robots morty it's okay to shoot them they're robots

00:15:15.420 they're not robots rick it's a figure of speech morty they're bureaucrats i don't respect them

00:15:27.260 just keep shooting no like i do i think that it like it

00:15:32.520 and it's not i don't think that the individuals working in bureaucracies are bad people

00:15:39.760 or that they are incompetent i believe that they are incentivized to behave in a way

00:15:45.080 that is incompetent like why would you ever go above and beyond when you're basically only going

00:15:51.020 to be punished for it it best i put this out about other people like consider leaflet as an

00:15:56.400 influencer right like are you going to see leaflet going on and talking about how other women are

00:16:00.180 bees or hoes or something like that you're just not like no she doesn't and and the key difference

00:16:06.280 and i think you really hit it on the head here is these influencers when they go out there they

00:16:11.980 tell you how you should live your life you're like you need you need to do x y and z to be a proper

00:16:18.800 manly conservative male or something yeah do as i say not as i do it's very much but when we go out

00:16:24.480 there or leaflet goes out there or asthma gold goes out there they lead by example was no that's not

00:16:30.640 the point i'm making okay when they're investigating a point they're asking but why like why is it useful

00:16:38.920 to act in this way i don't say like you should you should treat your you know like the post that he

00:16:45.660 did like if i was going to do something similar to that post right i.e be a good dad chip in with

00:16:52.000 helping i would be very well consequentialist about it i'd be like look x type of woman isn't going to

00:16:58.080 want to marry you if you don't do x y and z and then once you're married you're going to develop

00:17:02.360 bad habits that'll lead to you know resentment that'll lead to these sorts of externalities you

00:17:06.820 don't even do that no yours is so much better so literally you do post because you add these

00:17:11.340 like clips of you like stuff you film when you're around the kids one like not to dunk on you but

00:17:18.680 your filming is terrible right so it's like potato quality i don't know what it is like we both have

00:17:22.980 pixel phones your pixel phone is newer than mine your video looks like you filmed it on

00:17:27.140 on a potato with a battery attached to it and so it's one it's like not all polished you know it's

00:17:32.520 not like instagram perfect it's not mormon wife posted instagram and then it's like it's not you

00:17:37.620 like standing with like a baby carrier holding another kid like in a beautifully perfect room

00:17:43.000 it's like you getting around piles of trash in the like the kid room after a day that they spent with

00:17:49.340 you and like the boys are like in a cloud of wrestling on the floor and you like kick them with your

00:17:54.880 sock foot that's like your video you know and that like that is that is how you know it's it's

00:18:01.420 it's authentic because it's not it's not flattering it's but it shows what it shows is that you actually

00:18:08.040 demonstrably spent the day taking care of the kids as you can tell from like the oh i bet he spent days

00:18:14.840 taking care of the kids yeah he did but but mornings but it was the way that he told you that

00:18:21.120 right it was the way that or she told people that and i think that we need to as a community be much

00:18:28.000 more proactive about catching people acting like this because it's it's something that is toxic to

00:18:33.600 the community itself before it comes out that they were just faking everything right point out red flag

00:18:39.160 behavior even before the affairs come out yeah point out when they are insulting people in this

00:18:45.180 sort of like aggressive way when they are trying to create status hierarchies where they're like this

00:18:51.440 is the correct way to be this is the incorrect way to be when they don't see other people who live

00:18:58.180 lifestyles that they disagree with with empathy and say you know even when they're talking to those

00:19:04.120 people this is why that that's how we win at the end of the day when people come over to the

00:19:08.220 conservative side and i've made this point before but it's a very important point for conservatives to

00:19:12.780 internalize which is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse muslim lady i forget her name who

00:19:17.040 deconverted from his arm and was a very well-known oh ian hirsi ali yeah and then she converted to

00:19:22.260 christianity and everybody was like why did you when you became theistic why did you convert to

00:19:26.680 christianity instead of islam and she's like well the entire time i was out there preaching atheism

00:19:31.240 the muslims would always come to me and say that they were going to kill me and grate me but she said

00:19:35.900 the christians would often come to me not always but often come to me and say well i'm praying for

00:19:39.700 you and i i i hope that one day you know you change your mind on this and that that made it very easy

00:19:45.800 for her when she was like well is god real you know it's this and it's not just that more broadly we've

00:19:52.100 seen this on the right very generally is people come to the right and they expect everyone to hate

00:19:58.920 them and treat them really poorly and by and large what they find is that people don't hate them and

00:20:04.520 they don't treat them poorly and they'll say i disagree with you on this or this or this or they

00:20:09.540 might tease them on an issue but there isn't the aggression they expect and they'll often realize

00:20:15.360 pretty quickly that they get more hate in left-wing spaces than they do in right-wing spaces and this

00:20:21.320 is really important so even if you for example disagree with say same-sex relationships if you want

00:20:26.680 a person who is same-sex attracted and think same-sex relationship normalization should be a thing

00:20:32.420 to eventually change that position the first thing they can't they shouldn't hear when they

00:20:39.120 come to the right for the first time and they have all these stereotypes about us and everything like

00:20:42.940 that shouldn't be some slur shouldn't be i disagree with your lifestyle shouldn't be you know it should

00:20:49.420 be like accepting so that they get a chance to hear ideas and framings because i don't think anyone on

00:20:57.380 the right really believes that same-sex attraction isn't real anymore like i don't think that's a

00:21:01.120 talking point anyone has anymore about why you may not want to base your life around something like

00:21:05.940 this or sleeping around a lot you know i always hate this that so many people in the right do things

00:21:10.960 like sort of isolate ayla who i consider a very good friend of ours and a wonderful person and i would

00:21:18.440 say that i like with her the only way she ever gets comfortable saying oh my god the urban monoculture

00:21:26.860 was wrong oh my god these values are nice is to espouse and explain these values without attacking

00:21:34.100 individuals and the problem is is the the people on the right which which does require some level of

00:21:41.560 internal policing who do attack these people when they come into our communities are the people who

00:21:48.280 so often turn out to be hypocrites and i i i would say i see it fairly rarely if i can't actually think

00:21:57.560 of a single example of one of the right-leaning figures who doesn't attack people like this and

00:22:03.400 then hasn't has has later come out with some big scandal that just doesn't seem to happen or who just

00:22:10.360 is failing to live up to that ideal like they're still perpetually single uncoupled alone not living

00:22:18.940 the trad dream well okay here's another example of a right-leaning figure who i think is very

00:22:23.520 different from us in many views but i'd be quite shocked to hear some some actually i even think

00:22:30.140 he's sort of like the exception that proves a world okay okay he did have a big scandal around him

00:22:34.340 which is rubyard of of what evolved his rubyard doesn't dunk on anyone does he no he never dunks

00:22:40.340 on anyone is what i mean but he has had a major scandal so the point being is his major scandal

00:22:45.960 was about him doing ayahuasca and crashing out about mysticism right like that's not being mean

00:22:52.300 to somebody that doesn't show that he has like a a mean heart or is fundamentally a hypocritical person

00:22:57.060 him crashing out on ayahuasca is exactly something i would expect rubyard to do he didn't like

00:23:03.740 reveal some other side of his personality that was completely antithetical to everything he has

00:23:10.100 presented himself as being he just was like yeah i am exactly who i have always told you i am

00:23:17.820 but what you don't see from him is some scandal about him you know cheating on a woman or beating

00:23:26.660 a woman or something like that right yeah well i think also because this came up with someone who

00:23:33.940 listens to the podcast and was talking about i think this this this scandal like brought it up to me

00:23:43.320 what scandal this this particular scandal and what about it well they said someone really needs to

00:23:51.180 invent a genetic test for hoe behavior if malcolm can do it you guys could become zillionaires and he

00:23:57.560 thinks that there's a genetic basis because there are girls who like he he thinks that there are genes

00:24:03.120 that correlate with it i i don't really i think there are genes that you do oh yeah i'll keep reading

00:24:09.320 here but back when i used to be a hoe because i was a hoe younger as i said i was like a hundred plus

00:24:13.980 people i really regret that i ever did that during that time of my life i didn't really have some

00:24:18.280 alternate framing of morality than the urban monoculture and and what i got from my parents

00:24:23.740 and so i didn't know like i i thought i'm a young man you look at what young men are told online

00:24:29.760 and it's you are you are more manly if you sleep around more and this may not be as strong a message

00:24:35.800 right now online but keep in mind this was like pre-red pill right like this was the community that

00:24:42.600 bore that out this is the community that you know andrew tate came out of and everything like that

00:24:47.220 right like uh it was sleep around and that's what you do right and i have noted that that is enough

00:24:54.080 people to get sampling data right like to to to get enough data between cultural groups and as people

00:25:02.120 know i i almost exclusively dated not because you watch our episodes on like racial attractiveness i

00:25:08.360 just for whatever reason except for one black girl exclusively white girls so i was able to compare

00:25:13.600 white cultures specifically jewish catholic and protestant culture with a high degree of precision

00:25:20.560 yeah because those and do you think there's apologetic score for hoe behavior

00:25:24.360 so if you were going to rank women based on how horny they were like constantly like how much they

00:25:33.820 wanted to sleep around yeah and i i slept with a lot of other people's girlfriends too mind you so

00:25:40.000 i also know how how likely they were to cheat i would literally put young catholic girls that maybe

00:25:46.160 three x the other two groups they are incredibly horny catholics so not protestants catholics well i think

00:25:56.160 that there's a historic reason for it as well so if you're looking at sort of biology you needed to

00:26:04.640 have a strong desire to want to get with somebody and then after you get with somebody have a lot of

00:26:11.800 kids and catholics historically were known for this

00:26:14.980 they they historically got married younger and had lots of kids so being horny as a catholic especially

00:26:29.540 if you have this deontological framework because what catholicism really is that it's a bunch of rules

00:26:33.940 around like not masturbating not spilling seed not having sex outside of marriage and so you have

00:26:38.880 all of these deontological rules they basically funnel your internal biological drive towards an

00:26:44.840 end state which is having lots of kids right like assuming you cannot fulfill them with other people

00:26:50.860 right now you you you put that in a modern context where a lot of catholics today you know they don't get

00:26:57.100 married until they're 30 they don't get you know even when they're married they're not having sex

00:27:00.940 constantly if they're sort of biologically engineered to just be having sex constantly

00:27:05.160 in their like 20s to to mid 30s and producing lots of kids that's going to lead to a lot of

00:27:11.260 externalities whereas people by the way people are wondering about the other two words you're just

00:27:15.320 arguing there there were more evolutionary pressures among people who were active practicing

00:27:20.180 catholics to have high sex drives like the catholics with high sex drives were the catholics who

00:27:25.500 inherited the future of catholicism for a long yes they they simply had more evolutionary pressures

00:27:30.940 on having lots of having a high sex drive relating to having a lot of surviving children than other

00:27:36.120 metaphysical frameworks for reality um that's that's what deontology does all those these

00:27:42.120 deontological funnels and this is why out of the other two groups the next most horny group was

00:27:47.820 jewesses they were still fairly horny and as to why that that could be the case there's still

00:27:54.120 going to be more biological pressures on a on a like jewish because you have all the jewish rules

00:27:59.580 around like when you can have sex and everything like that it's just that jews don't hold to those

00:28:03.460 rules as rigidly as catholics do but they have most of the same rules that catholics do well there's

00:28:08.500 they're also the rules which are very i guess female sex positive of you need to pleasure your wife

00:28:15.220 and then of the protestants i dated i'd say that like half would would count as what you would

00:28:22.440 today call asexual or completely reactive sexual my wife falls into this category that she does not

00:28:31.240 like just randomly get horny except for like maybe once a year she uh once a year but it really depends

00:28:38.980 heavily on like where i am hormonally it's very weird yeah but but reactive sexuality means that she

00:28:44.760 does feel arousal but like when you are touching her or rubbing against her or you have already engaged

00:28:52.060 her in some form of sexual no it's it's it's something that a lot of men do not understand a

00:28:57.600 lot of women don't understand they think they're asexual it's important to understand that that

00:29:01.000 doesn't mean you're asexual no you have to activate sex mode that is how you do it well and this is

00:29:07.320 because if you're looking at the metaphysical framework that motivated reproduction was in

00:29:12.160 protestant communities if you look at the old framings of this and we've done episodes of like

00:29:15.500 why people used to have kids like you used to have sex yeah protestant did it because it was like

00:29:20.360 their duty to their family it was their duty to their religion you you literally have k names given

00:29:26.320 to young puritan girls thou shalt not blaspheme prudence no no the one that i love was like thou shalt

00:29:32.840 have many children or something like that right like the like literal like just you're gonna do x thing

00:29:38.680 so it's a completely different framework about why you have kids the the protestant women that had

00:29:45.560 the most kids were the ones that felt the least external biological drives and were able to just

00:29:52.020 logic themselves into having more kids i'm just imagining like a modern like pilgrim baby born like

00:29:57.920 10 years ago being named like learn to code yeah whereas the catholics who had the most kids

00:30:05.620 were the ones who followed the deontological rule set that helped funnel their internal desire

00:30:11.640 into children it's a it's a completely different framework and i think it's led to different

00:30:16.560 outcomes oh wow okay okay so it's not apologetic score it's are they consequentialists or deontologists

00:30:24.080 and and if you do that over generations it leads to different outcomes yeah yeah i mean i think also

00:30:31.000 also your general rule of thumb of finding women who did not invent who who were more interested in

00:30:40.280 raw and i'm not saying like i'm not like you would go for crazy women but it was through like

00:30:49.240 machiavellian or like insane ambition rather than social drama

00:30:58.360 so it was they were manic but they weren't borderline personality disorder or they were like

00:31:05.940 highly neurotic or autistic but they weren't like schizo and also you you didn't invest in women who

00:31:13.340 wore a lot of makeup you didn't invest in women who yeah like styled themselves really okay you had a

00:31:20.820 couple you you had at least one girlfriend who was very good at styling herself and had impeccable

00:31:26.180 amazing style but that was just because of her background it wasn't like she did it because it

00:31:29.920 was how she was raised it wasn't like she was trying to like actually this is a a a interesting

00:31:35.100 point but i was just thinking about how different the two groups were right something about half of

00:31:39.360 the protestant women that i i dated and slept with had reactive sexualities or like were basically

00:31:44.720 asexual by societal standards yeah i think about half of the catholic women wanted to have sex at least

00:31:49.440 every day oh do you get your five fruits and veg oh i mean i certainly tried to i would say i probably

00:31:56.200 i probably do a day a what

00:31:59.080 so the one it wasn't like it wasn't like a small difference it was like an enormous difference one

00:32:08.760 where there's a conflict between like you studying and intimate time that was she a catholic girlfriend

00:32:14.560 i can't remember with her okay that's interesting but i i feel like if if i were to advise our sons

00:32:21.860 i would say don't look at how she styles herself now we can fix that because like your mom fixed a

00:32:28.740 lot of things about me after i was introduced to the family so you can you can fix someone's grooming

00:32:34.400 and styling and appearance immediately as soon as she knew that we were going to engage she she was

00:32:40.060 literally like shipping clothes to my apartment i wonder if i can like dig up some of the pictures

00:32:44.800 she just like suddenly just starts sending me like all all of her old clothes get dressed nice girl

00:32:49.680 yeah she's like ah fix it you would hate your outfit today by the way oh she would but then she'd be so

00:32:55.300 excited about all the epstein drops that she'd like i don't know she it would fall out you know like

00:33:00.020 but anyway look at the girl don't invest in styling you could fix that look at her mother and how her

00:33:07.800 mother has aged i think that's a really important like good rule of thumb well i mean i think i think

00:33:12.040 a good rule is don't date overly horny girls like this is an easy thing right like you you oh yeah

00:33:17.820 i guess yeah if she's really horny she might need to satisfy herself outside your relationship yeah

00:33:23.140 yeah but then what about the guys who are like yeah but i need a girlfriend who constantly wants to

00:33:28.720 pounce on me like i don't know i think it's one of those things be aware that if she constantly

00:33:32.780 wants to pounce on you she's gonna occasionally want to pounce on other things as well

00:33:36.160 like the reason why either you get dead bedrooms or you get an unfaithful wife is this like the is

00:33:41.700 this the choice do you want the red pill or the blue pill what are you gonna choose guys actually

00:33:48.020 weigh in in the comments what would you choose if like i mean i i think you're right though i think

00:33:51.860 it's true i know i think you're right and i i'll point out that your wife's sexuality will go down

00:33:56.640 the longer you're married to each other right like people and i don't think that that's a bad thing

00:34:01.500 right like i get to play with my kids more right like the sex is a waste of time oh god i'm gonna

00:34:07.320 get more emails Simone you need to go pleasure welcome right now and i and i bet you're getting

00:34:14.380 those emails from catholic female fans because of catholic culture i wonder i wonder that it's just

00:34:20.080 right now way more sexual it's important to talk about this before i go further with this piece

00:34:27.100 because i think that there is this perception and it leads to really big problems in society

00:34:32.320 that white people are all the same and white people are not all the same we are biologically

00:34:38.080 and psychologically quite different from each other and if we don't call that out and you try to force

00:34:45.260 yourself to live in the way that another group is designed to live yeah and often right now i i i argue

00:34:52.060 that a lot of people are trying to live like the urban monoculture which borrows the most from jewish

00:34:58.160 culture it's got a bit of catholic culture mixed in it's got a bit of protestant culture mixed in

00:35:01.740 and then they try to apply that to other cultural groups and people are like why why did the jews

00:35:06.180 fertility rates not hit as much as other groups and i'm like well because the jews are still living in

00:35:10.140 jewish culture right but you're trying to live in like friendship is magic nonsense watch our episode

00:35:15.220 on why jews have friends where i point out that a lot of cultural groups just do not have large

00:35:19.960 friend networks historically and if you go out there and you say well i'm only going to be

00:35:24.120 fulfilled if i have a ton of friends and you're not from a culture that's like biologically built

00:35:28.320 to have lots of friends you're going to be effing miserable and you're going to go to parties and

00:35:34.040 you're going to be like why the heck am i at this party this is not fun nothing about this is fun

00:35:38.860 you will go to a nightclub and you will say i do not biologically understand why anyone is here

00:35:45.500 or if you're if you are from a culture that's biologically built for those things and it's

00:35:50.560 okay to be different right like it's not bad to be different but if you're biologically built for

00:35:54.560 those things you go to your other friend's house and they play dnd or whatever and you're like this

00:36:02.400 is the most boring thing i've ever seen in my entire life yeah and they're having a blast appear to be

00:36:07.580 having why is this happening um and it's because we don't allow the answer to be they might be

00:36:14.200 biologically different from you that's a really good point that's a really good point like with

00:36:19.560 dnd i'll point this out what what group do i think is biologically more prone to enjoying dnd

00:36:25.380 the east asian ethnic group the east i don't know i don't see very many like east asians famously

00:36:31.700 into really if you go to like from what i remember like dnd stuff i always remember an unusual amount of

00:36:38.260 east asians like leaflets an example the i i don't know among the white groups because i haven't been

00:36:44.140 in dnd enough to make that distinction among the people i see at dnd groups yeah honestly i'm just

00:36:49.780 i'm thinking of all the all the people who showed up on harm and quest and the people who had and i'd

00:36:56.380 also note here because i want to be clear about this this particular protestant jewish catholic

00:37:01.540 distinction that's sort of like partially biological it is not one where i am strictly saying that like

00:37:07.100 it is worse to marry someone of catholic descent because here i'm pointing out that if you don't want a

00:37:12.280 dead bedroom of that's like your nightmare scenario catholics are going to be the lowest chance of

00:37:17.420 that happening yeah well i think this is a really no it's a really good point though in that a really

00:37:23.600 big element of the like perfect trad family is a chaste wife who was a virgin coming into marriage

00:37:32.580 and and save herself sex her eye never wanders and then but but oh you know god forbid like you would

00:37:42.100 ever have to initiate or that she would ever not be interested no no no no actually i this changed

00:37:48.340 this changed and i think that this is part of the problem with modern trad culture okay is that

00:37:53.380 historically the perfect trad wife was not super horny for her husband sexually reluctant she was

00:38:00.640 sexually repressed in all things she would have sex to have children but she was not like okay so

00:38:08.420 but it was understood that you would be intimate with a dead fish right if you look at well not

00:38:15.400 necessarily a dead fish like she might try to engage but you look at like puritan writings around

00:38:20.300 sexuality and stuff like that you got steamy what are you talking about like no no they talked about

00:38:24.980 sex very graphically and in a steamy way but the reason why they talked about sex graphically in a

00:38:31.380 steamy way is you could tell that sex just was not very tempting to them like they could afford to be

00:38:37.640 so steamy because in the same way that like if you read the pragmatist guide to sexuality we go really

00:38:42.740 deep into really bizarre fetishes but it's because the entire field is just so unalluring to us it's not

00:38:49.080 something that that evokes this reflective like i've got to push this away from me because it's not

00:38:55.280 uh grabbing of us in the same way i think actually for people if like just just just head off everyone

00:39:01.760 is gonna write to me and tell me like okay for me sex is a lot like alcohol we're like i will knock back

00:39:08.260 five ounces of vodka and feel like kind of happy or whatever right and like you know malcolm and just

00:39:14.060 get like really cheerful and loving and it's great and i enjoy it and it's fun and it's the same with

00:39:20.080 sex like i will we'll go for it you know and it's great but like also sometimes we need to work or like

00:39:27.520 we have to choose like i have to choose between like am i going to knock back five ounces of vodka

00:39:31.900 or am i gonna like be more efficient in cleaning up tonight well no i mean this is this is really what

00:39:38.440 it comes down to you're always choosing between things and right now what are we working on we're

00:39:42.260 trying to save society we are trying to save not not just socially not just through pro natalism but

00:39:48.060 also from ai safety related stuff i mean that's the end goal in our fab so every day huge long hours

00:39:53.880 but also be there for our kids yeah and and then we're trying to raise five children right now and

00:39:59.340 more every year and so i need to ask myself if ever i'm like oh i want to have sex i'm like is this

00:40:04.900 it's the pleasure i'm feeling from this literally more important than potentially saving the world

00:40:10.620 right like the fixing this ai issue but actually like actually think about it guys like so so the

00:40:17.240 kids are like asleep or something and then you know malcolm wakes up at 2 a.m if we end up banging

00:40:23.720 you know he's probably gonna sleep in a little bit i've lost like a day of work time because i've

00:40:29.800 exhausted myself during the only time i get alone and then it's like he he uses like we we both just

00:40:35.520 sort of mentally wind down a little bit after the kids are in bed like it's the one time we take to

00:40:39.640 like do stupid stuff like i watch legal i don't believe and you watch whatever anime on crunchy

00:40:46.160 roll well this is why i do not believe that people like ellie isaer yukowski have ever been serious

00:40:51.100 about ai safety and a lot of the ea community if you have time to be polyamorous you you are not

00:40:56.960 actually that concerned or just to like hang out and socialize yeah because i mean you we're like

00:41:01.860 literally choosing between like do i you know go to an essential doctor appointment or do i you know

00:41:10.760 work code right yeah and i want to point out here simone that living this type of like 24 7 grind set

00:41:18.920 is not something that people from some cultural backgrounds are really built to do yeah and one

00:41:24.100 of the the the things i've noted about this if you talk about adapting cultures that you're not

00:41:27.660 biologically adapted to is a really high rate of unaliving of white people who try to adapt jayen

00:41:32.980 culture because jayen has a stoicism combined with a 24 7 grind set instead of a vitalism combined with

00:41:39.920 a 24 7 grind set and that just doesn't mix with most white cultural groups and i think yeah people

00:41:45.620 need to be forgiving yeah when people try to shove themselves into cultures that their biology isn't

00:41:51.840 designed adapted for yeah yeah like we are all about this like thin-lipped american gothic like

00:41:59.080 just the point i was making is that if you look at america traditionally yeah the the perfect trad

00:42:05.220 wife was not constantly horny the thing that broke trad wife ism was the idea of a trad wife who's always

00:42:12.180 going to be horny for her husband oh that is when trad wife met stepford wife and then it was when

00:42:17.500 trad wife needed to become sexy and we have an episode how well we have an episode titled how

00:42:25.480 girl defined ruined an entire generation of women a joke on the house got pilgrim ruined an entire

00:42:30.740 generation of pilgrim women and specifically what i point out in that episode is they started to say

00:42:37.820 things like if you wait till marriage for sex sex is so much better oh yeah yeah they're basically

00:42:43.880 trying to say well we offer everything the progressive debauched culture offers just

00:42:49.720 within the bounds of marriage oh and they were trying to say well we can do it better and yeah

00:42:55.340 they were trying to be like sex is actually the purpose of life sex is actually like sex is actually

00:43:00.640 the best when what they should have been selling and what should have been being sold

00:43:03.680 like get over yourself sex is not that great sex is not the purpose of your life sex does not make

00:43:11.220 you more of a man or a woman if you need to have sex to have kids do it but otherwise it's a

00:43:17.400 recreational pastime no different than any other self-indulgent recreational pastime yeah and you

00:43:24.660 don't need to say it's okay to be like if you don't have sex till marriage it's going to suck in marriage

00:43:30.600 it's it's going to be worse than the person who has learned techniques from a bunch of different

00:43:34.460 people like that's just obviously true right i'm not bad no you're you're fine because i know what

00:43:41.180 i'm doing and i know how to teach you what to do right like but the point being is this myth of you

00:43:48.880 know abstinence making sex with the person you're abstinent for better yeah ends up leading eventually

00:43:55.360 i think for a lot of these women to be like well if if sex was this big magical thing and i was told

00:43:59.860 that sex was going to be the big magical thing and i saved myself for it and i did it in marriage

00:44:03.380 and it still wasn't magical well then maybe i need to try with other people maybe it's just my

00:44:07.620 partner isn't and that's where instead of being like no sex is just like not but keep in mind

00:44:12.800 my strategy here is the protestant strategy historically to say sex is just not that good

00:44:20.300 sex doesn't matter that much do not pedestalize sex and it works with my biology to our catholic

00:44:26.620 viewers this strategy may not work for you right like you may need to come up with a completely

00:44:32.220 different strategy to deal with urges that my wife and i just don't have and it's a whole i mean

00:44:42.300 it was in the current like social order to say that right people are like oh that means your marriage

00:44:46.380 isn't as strong or anything like that i'm gonna get those emails malcolm just you wait my wife has

00:44:51.980 literally never once in our entire relationship turned me down for sex never once because you're hot

00:44:58.560 if i wanted to have sex every day i could i choose not to no i think i have a responsibility

00:45:07.420 towards society towards something greater in the past like you know 20 times i'm pretty sure i've

00:45:14.160 initiated like 19 of them yes actually that is true the past 20 times you have initiated at least 19 of

00:45:20.240 them i am much more disciplined about this but anyway well yeah yeah we haven't even included my

00:45:25.680 botched initiations when wilma begging at your door anyway you got to continue the article and

00:45:32.340 we're never gonna finish this okay okay one user on x said the trad wife image just collapsed in real

00:45:37.920 time another wrote this is peak hypocrisy even if half of it is even if only half of it is true

00:45:42.780 sarah later deactivated her x account as the backlash intensified and then here's a tweet from john root

00:45:49.260 here's another reminder that the vast majority of christian conservative influencers are christian in

00:45:53.280 name only it's a grift to them sarah's stock is just another example they don't care about living

00:45:58.860 for jesus they just want to use his name in vain to build their

00:46:03.600 brand cash their checks and get invites on podcasts and fancy dinners and conferences

00:46:10.840 it's twisted and where are our we're not christians yeah that's why we're not here's another thing i'd note

00:46:16.880 if you're like how do i tell who the real ones are and who the fake ones are another really easy

00:46:21.700 difference is are they following all the rules or do they have a unique theology and metaphysical

00:46:28.300 framework oh that's yeah how nerdy are they yeah if you look at them and every single one of their

00:46:35.760 beliefs looks like the form of vanilla catholicism yeah that's going to be accepted by a conservative

00:46:43.100 audience without anyone being like you're weird here or you're weird here they're like well actually

00:46:49.240 and then then you know they're for real yeah they're probably yeah fake if if if their theology

00:46:56.220 or metaphysical framework or belief subverts normal conservative culture in a number of ways

00:47:02.180 you they are much more likely to be being honest with you and this is something i tell women all the

00:47:08.120 time a woman will say how do i know of a man isn't just pretending that he wants a long-term

00:47:13.240 relationship pretending to parrot my views back to me to sleep with me and i go if he parrots back

00:47:18.820 every view you want to hear and parrots back an ideology that looks exactly like your ideology

00:47:24.960 he's lying to you yeah real ideologies have differences from yours 100 and this is why i know

00:47:32.780 that somebody like rubyard for example is being honest there are all sorts of parts of his ideology

00:47:39.440 that very much differ from the trad conservative ideology that he would be pretending well or

00:47:45.920 honestly from anyone's ideology yeah conspiracy theorist ideology even for mystics ideology yeah

00:47:51.940 it is unique to him and it is therefore this is if you go to sargon of akkad for example kind of

00:47:58.380 akkad is very open about being an atheist right like if he was putting on a fake persona about his

00:48:03.820 beliefs he would just pretend to be a christian yeah it would be way easier yes if you look at

00:48:09.340 our beliefs our weird techno puritan nonsense it'd be way easier not to have that it would be way

00:48:15.800 easier to have those beliefs you're talking about that article mentioned fancy dinners and stuff and

00:48:20.360 i'm like oh the stuff we could have maybe maybe heritage foundation would have given us like

00:48:25.240 fellowships or something that would be nice if you look at a conservative influencer who hasn't had

00:48:29.620 a big crash out yet but to me would come off as very suspicious of likely having a crash out in

00:48:35.020 the future tim pool tim pool is way too down the line conservative for me but he used to be

00:48:41.740 occupy wall street he did it used to be occupy wall street which makes it even weirder that he doesn't

00:48:48.960 seem to disagree with conservatives on any major talking point that is weird that that he he should

00:48:55.440 have things that he is regularly disagreeing on he should have some opinion that regularly splits his

00:49:01.500 audience maybe this is no a product of us not being deep enough in his lore i don't yeah maybe

00:49:06.060 we're not deep enough enough so yeah hopefully we're just missing something yeah but i i will say

00:49:10.460 that i do find it suspicious that i can go an entire stream without hearing a single point that i would

00:49:14.760 say differs from mainstream conservative values yeah red flag i guess you have to people will comment

00:49:19.940 if he has heterodox yeah people will comment and be like oh you're missing this or you're missing

00:49:24.000 this about good because we want that because i want to believe that tim pool is a is bro

00:49:27.740 but to continue here this is from venom meet sarah stock popular right-wing catholic trad influencer

00:49:34.700 february 2025 started sleeping with elijah schaefer she had sex with schaefer the day she met him

00:49:39.920 she slept with him the day before her engagement multiple pregnancy scares did one abortion she got

00:49:45.020 engaged in august 2025 to will secta lied to her husband that she was a virgin and told him to wait

00:49:50.580 until marriage oh wow she's sleeping with another guy she fooled her husband and thousands of her

00:49:56.480 followers why are women like this how can somebody preach traditional values while secretly living

00:50:01.860 the opposite well the answer is is because people like us do preach traditional values the people who

00:50:07.440 are have values that have any element of traditionalism wisdom do not constantly preach

00:50:13.000 them they explain them they explain why living a lifestyle wisdom might be better and why they might

00:50:18.180 have been wrong in their previous values they don't preach them but to continue here secta is described

00:50:22.980 as working in political organizations and grassroots activist circles unlike his wife he kept a very

00:50:28.060 low public profile oh no the honest one keeps the low public profile there were no viral videos no

00:50:33.000 regular commentary no influencer persona his online presence was mostly through sarah's posts especially

00:50:38.980 during their engagement and wedding his surname also became an unexpected talking point some online

00:50:44.520 users pointed out his eastern european roots sparking ironic comments giving sarah's previous

00:50:50.000 arguments about immigration and european identity one user on x said she mocked immigrants while proudly

00:50:56.280 taking a surname with an immigrant history sarah's stock faces massive backlash sarah built her online

00:51:01.760 identity around anti-abortion views modesty and strict christian morality because of this the alleged

00:51:07.980 details of her affair claims struck many followers as deeply contradictory reactions online were harsh and

00:51:14.640 emotional some users accused her of misleading her followers others expect sympathy for will setka

00:51:19.860 describing him as an unwitting husband caught in an internet storm here we have a tweet from brian

00:51:24.360 atlas sarah stock claims to be a virgin and waiting for marriage on the whatever podcast body count

00:51:31.260 reveal was she lying the users on x said quote imagine finding out that your marriage is trending for the

00:51:37.720 worst region possible end quote the controversy also reopened debates about authenticity and influencer culture

00:51:42.780 especially in ideological spaces where personal life and public messaging are closely tied together

00:51:47.560 here we see the raw egg nationalist friend of the show been on the show yes one month before he died

00:51:53.060 charlie kirk congratulated sarah stock on her engagement she had been having an affair with her married boss

00:52:00.160 the moment her boyfriend popped the question what a tangled web try to influencers weave and that's her

00:52:06.020 showing her ring in front of a feel and with charlie kirk saying congrats marriage is amazing and marriage is

00:52:12.340 amazing when you have a good partner and i still by the way think charlie kirk's partner is and

00:52:16.060 has been a good partner and i do not like the scandal that people make up about her i think it's

00:52:20.360 deeply disgusting the way that people like nick pointe's talk about her candace owens and a bunch

00:52:25.240 of other and candace owens a lot of candace owens by the way is somebody who i would totally expect to

00:52:29.320 have a crash out i'm sorry she's been crashing out oh never sorry guys i know there's a lot of really

00:52:35.780 big candace owens fans who watch based camp she's fun she's very entertaining but yeah there's

00:52:41.220 i haven't seen her go against her fan base she may be spiky but she doesn't go against her fan base

00:52:48.660 from what i've seen which to me is a sign that she might have a crash out soon i don't know i see her

00:52:53.920 well i mean at least i would be shocked if she wasn't utterly devoted to her family her husband

00:52:59.260 works with her i don't know like i i get the impression that she's very much leaned into them

00:53:04.200 maybe to me she just has a lot of warning signs for sure for sure i mean she's opportune she's

00:53:10.920 she's enterprising she's an enterprising young woman throughout the scandal will setka has made

00:53:15.720 no public statement what a classy guy this guy is he has not appeared in interviews nor responded on

00:53:20.800 social media the silence has only increased public curiosity about her commentary on videos and threads

00:53:25.200 often refer to him as a private man pulled into a public crisis many discussions frame him as less a

00:53:30.680 participant and more as collateral damage in a story dominated by louder personalities

00:53:34.280 what happened to the full story

00:53:37.700 what happened to the full story wait what

00:53:43.940 it's not the story i meant to read

00:53:49.340 we've got to get the full story and finish it another day okay because there's a story about how

00:53:56.620 the other guy who was having the affair crashed out oh yes it was effing hilarious

00:54:01.600 well i'll skip to the good crash out portions from that story and we'll finish that another day and

00:54:08.280 stitch it on here yeah yeah or you can record it over like as an add-on to this as you just no no no

00:54:15.660 no no you have to you have to react this is fun stuff simone i love the gossip i do i would

00:54:22.320 a little bit of gossip on our podcast no i love gossip we don't want to get gossip okay and i love

00:54:27.740 that our our part of the conservative scene has no gossip we we generally like none of the online

00:54:37.400 new right really attacks each other aggressively none of the online new right really seriously right

00:54:43.420 like i have like genuine affection for even the people who i think like strategically are

00:54:50.980 the most like opposed to us like the like i for example i love emma waters i love her so much i love

00:54:59.320 her husband oh yeah she's she recently tweeted something along the lines of like ivf is going to

00:55:04.780 be the new like pro-choice front of the war like we're moving the front lines from abortion to ivf

00:55:15.140 i'm like wow here we go and people are people like us are going to stop fighting for republicans if you

00:55:20.760 get people voting for that i mean it's just it's going to be it's going to be a very interesting

00:55:24.560 debate and and and despite that despite the fact that we're going to be at ideological loggerheads

00:55:29.740 there i i love them i love them if they if their house burned down and they're like we need somewhere

00:55:36.080 to stay i'd be like come here you know like that kind of love and you know how i feel about people

00:55:40.680 i hate people i don't want to be around people but i would open up our house to them so yeah it just

00:55:44.880 that's such a contrast to the rest of this movement which feels so catty it's like fifth grade girls

00:55:49.480 they're so mean they're a completely different thing they're all old school republican like you know

00:55:55.240 turning points usa types right like that community had a lot of of people who just cared about

00:56:01.140 signaling whereas if you look at the online right you know your your your kirscher's your nexonora's

00:56:06.880 your asthma gold's your because fundamentally these are people who care about society and the future of

00:56:12.240 humanity like we may disagree about tactics but we we have very spirited debates about how to do it and

00:56:17.900 we're all like really trying to like work on this project that is humanity like that's what we're

00:56:23.240 autistically all so excited about and we understand that like we're not mad at each other for

00:56:28.880 disagreeing because we're like i respect that you care about this as much as i do let's figure this

00:56:33.360 out together and i love that and like a little rivalry is fun too i mean we can have fun oh gosh

00:56:39.120 okay we have to get the kids i love you love you okay here is the longer juicier article for much of

00:56:44.440 the past decade chauffeur has been a regular presence on the far-right conservative media scene as a

00:56:49.540 podcaster commentator and in his latest incarnation as the ceo of the outlet rift tv

00:56:53.940 schaefer and various sidekicks would often discuss trad values of which he married in 2020 and now the

00:57:01.320 father of two young children was not just an outspoken supporter but presumably an exemplar a few

00:57:07.480 months ago chauffeur took a mysterious months-long absence from his live string show on rumble the

00:57:13.080 right-wing video platform when he returned last week on january 26 he looked rough chauffeur admitted

00:57:19.580 his face was unusually red he blamed the lights in the new studio and said he had developed a quote

00:57:25.520 unquote permanent black eye from a crushing mental stress as he put it and that would cause lesser men

00:57:32.820 to unalive chauffeur certainly had plenty to be stressed about fbi director cash patel's girlfriend

00:57:39.320 is suing him for suggesting she's a massad agent yeah he claimed that people were trying to kill him

00:57:45.220 but unbeknownst to his listeners something else was weighing on chauffeur despite being one of the

00:57:50.440 digital rights most vocal boosters of traditional families he had filed for divorce from his wife

00:57:56.260 four days earlier ditching his usual material aimed at whipping up hate towards indian immigrants and

00:58:02.400 muslims chauffeur instead used his return show to launch into a baffling rant straight out of

00:58:09.100 family court he vowed that he wouldn't give up his son's quote without a few shots fired end quote

00:58:14.960 he told his viewers he wasn't necessarily speaking metaphorically right normally that ends with in

00:58:23.100 minecraft he's like no i'm not i'm not gonna go down without without you know a few shots fired

00:58:31.240 chauffeur said figuratively figuratively of course we're saying but physically too if needed

00:58:36.620 oh god this is about his wife mind you then chauffeur

00:58:42.800 and then chauffeur appeared to address his estranged wife mama bear mama bear f you chauffeur said

00:58:54.460 what about dad what about dad don't f with me don't f with my kids don't f with my income

00:59:00.040 don't f with my ability to take care of my kids i will f you up the monologue grew stranger

00:59:05.480 chauffeur urged his fans to to learn from him and overcome their addictions their thoughts of

00:59:12.140 unaliving their impulse to commit criminal behavior and their sexual proclivities still he couldn't help

00:59:18.680 but limit how far his star has fallen i'd really like to regrow i'd like to get back to where i was a

00:59:23.960 couple years ago he said why wouldn't chauffeur was once a rising star on the right not as a commentator

00:59:30.140 on trad issues but as an ad-libbing political loudmouth his coverage of the 2020 riots in the

00:59:34.940 wake of george lloyd's murder propelled him into a job hosting a popular show for mentor glenn beck's

00:59:41.420 network blaze chauffeur's boozy racist frat boy persona was a hit and it seemed not even asserting

00:59:48.880 that mormons like his boss beck would burn in hell could stop him he literally was in nancy pelosi's

00:59:55.400 office on january 26th and saw his statue grew because of it but in 2020 chauffeur was fired from

01:00:02.760 blaze after allegedly groping a co-worker oh he also provoked another harassment lawsuit against the

01:00:10.640 outlet from his female co-host what sorry i'm clicking on this article about him groping

01:00:16.560 he groped akali's breasts without her consent jesus how could how do you not just not grope a co-worker

01:00:24.420 yeah it seems i mean

01:00:26.560 yeah if you're gonna if you're gonna grope keep it this is when he took a this is when he took his

01:00:37.400 trad turn chauffeur emerged from that initial disgrace by becoming a vocal family man touting

01:00:44.340 his wife and children frequently on social media and shaming other influencers who didn't have strong

01:00:49.420 marriages and households it worked for a time but it apparently wasn't enough to save off financial

01:00:54.800 trouble for the rift tv an online channel chauffeur launched last may the platform had seen his public

01:01:01.540 staff list dwindle in the last few months this job has destroyed me and i'm not even very popular

01:01:07.740 chauffeur said during a january 28th worst was to come on monday chauffeur posted a bizarre video that

01:01:14.640 showed him wandering around an empty hotel conference room as they were flooded with water

01:01:19.420 what i clicked through to that and it is exactly as described just him holding the camera and

01:01:27.740 yeah flooded hotel it's weird very fever dreamy

01:01:34.640 while hallucinating on an unknown substance yeah just click on it you'll see it is exactly as

01:01:41.940 described that you don't know how else to put it there's no other way you can put it it's a flooded

01:01:47.120 hotel conference area he's in a dark place yeah he's in flooded liminal spaces hallucinating it's not

01:01:56.200 good i also find it a very interesting thing and it shows his psychology that he goes from groping

01:02:01.940 a female co-worker to trying to play up the trad image i am lucky i do not have a problem with

01:02:08.460 groping i've never felt tempted to grope a staff member it just seems i i guess is it about power

01:02:16.580 theoretically that like i can do this and i'm gonna get away with it maybe but i think that in the past

01:02:23.300 it was more just like the same kind of impulse that maybe grandparents have with grandchildren's

01:02:30.360 cheeks you know like oh no groping a breast is not like that it's not oh no i don't know i can't

01:02:40.360 i can't model this even when i was horny all the time as a kid i i would i was better than to grope

01:02:47.320 other like the level of self-control you need to lack to think that that will end up okay but then

01:02:54.340 to go from there to the trad influencers chick anyway on tuesday shofer made a strange x post

01:03:02.000 about his family being kidnapped and claimed the fbi without to murder him promoting worries on the

01:03:06.080 right that he himself had hurt or endangered his own family in a mark of how twisted the far the

01:03:13.540 online right has become far right youtuber jean francis gourmet whose own wife disappeared under

01:03:19.340 mysterious circumstances in 2023 and was never found wondered openly whether shofer was smart

01:03:24.300 enough to murder his spouse without being discovered the shade wait no did you fully grok

01:03:35.240 what just happened so this guy whose wife disappeared under mysterious circumstances has never been found

01:03:41.960 yeah wondered if this other guy was smart enough to murder his wife without being caught well he knows

01:03:47.580 what it takes so oh my god poor elijah gropey asked does he have the brains to get away with it

01:03:55.340 fortunately he's trying to like grant himself as the new oh my god if if it doesn't fit you have to

01:04:03.360 acquit oj simpson oj simpson yeah fortunately shofer's family members appeared to be safe but the scandal

01:04:09.340 engulfing him only grew wider i mean if my wife died i would not be making jokes like that even if it

01:04:15.300 was very mysterious or disappeared right like i would be quite distraught given that this only

01:04:21.440 happened like a couple years ago for this guy i don't know it didn't take oj a long time and then

01:04:26.800 he wrote if i did it but he did do it so that's why the victim's family i think i don't know took

01:04:34.920 sued and got the book and then they renamed it i did it i think they just made the if very small

01:04:40.160 right wing provocateur milo posted recordings and transcripts on social media on a tuesday chat

01:04:46.900 that raised questions about shofar's hypocrisy and mental stability in one recording a man sounds

01:04:51.760 very much like shofar supposedly talks about having a drinking problem another purports to feature

01:04:57.000 sarah stock who for the last year has been a political commentator street interviewer debater and

01:05:03.040 contributor for rift tv that recording captures part of the conversation between an unnamed man who

01:05:10.140 is not yannopoulos and a woman as she described some sort of sexual relationship with shofar

01:05:15.040 that began at the conservative political action conference presumably in 2025 that woman who

01:05:20.780 yannopoulos claims is stock said that he had sexual uh encounter with shofar after he offered her

01:05:27.880 benadryl and shots of alcohol prompting her to black out yannopoulos is a notoriously shifty figure

01:05:33.800 that said the same audio recordings were also sent to me not from him and while i have not been able

01:05:39.840 to authenticate them neither shofar nor stock has directly denied them no it seems obvious it's

01:05:44.080 true at this point

01:05:44.740 we gotta try that sounds like a good time

01:05:49.780 many of the claims about her were false but she also apologized for her actions

01:05:56.060 there were mistakes and unwind decisions i have made that i deeply regret stock wrote

01:06:00.860 and i apologize to everyone that has been scandalized by this she then deleted her x account

01:06:05.620 entirely neither shofar nor stock responded to requests for comments stock had become a right

01:06:10.940 wing catholic influencer after converting to the face less than a year ago so she converted into it so

01:06:15.700 it doesn't even explain why she's horny all the time that that only makes sense for people

01:06:19.860 well maybe she's you know she's a catholic soul gained some prominence online after she delivered

01:06:28.620 a racist rant during a youtube debate show featuring liberal commentator sam cedar since then she has

01:06:35.500 been a fierce opponent of extra sex denouncing fornication stock is also a familiar figure to false

01:06:44.100 flag readers because of the drama that started last year when she posted a picture

01:06:48.140 of her engagement ring rival in the diamond far too small setting off a vicious round of female

01:06:54.640 mega infighting yeah that was fun the girls were fighting over ring size yeah it was great

01:07:01.140 just pearly things i know they did have a small size but like my takeaway was but isn't her husband

01:07:07.620 a conservative like like organizer like he's not going to make a lot of money well yeah i mean but

01:07:12.300 the whole point was like yeah some girls were like oh that's embarrassing whereas others were like

01:07:17.480 that's your whole like the whole point is the marriage and and modesty and how dare you criticize

01:07:24.980 the size of the ring do i have to say malcolm when you came i loved i loved how i felt with the

01:07:34.880 big engagement ring that you gave me that was your mom's earring because i remember once it got on an

01:07:41.300 elevator and this guy turns to me he's like man your husband loves you

01:07:46.760 wow so i understand why the debate took place because i didn't realize until i received an

01:07:57.820 engagement ring with your mom's rock that was big how much people judge you based on your engagement

01:08:04.600 ring i wish i could still wear it my fingers weren't swollen sausages her fingers are incredibly

01:08:10.960 swollen because of the cold and her anyway yeah so stock's alleged affair with chauffeur ended once

01:08:17.280 she got engaged according to the recording but on the maga right the widely discussed episode has

01:08:22.820 dented both her and chauffeur's images as strict moralists in fact the brewing scandal has provoked

01:08:28.820 what can only be described as an outpouring of schadenfreude both for chauffeur and stock have made

01:08:33.480 many enemies on the right in part because of their vigorous moral policing the moral police are always the

01:08:38.540 people who are this is what i was saying and what i really mean when somebody's trying to police the

01:08:44.240 morality of other individuals i think it's very likely that they like we engage in team sports a

01:08:49.980 bit or i'll call out people for specific actions i think are hurtful to the right's wider political

01:08:54.000 goals we're very open about our own debauchery and flaws i mean i don't think anyone thinks we're

01:08:59.660 trying to hide something we're pretty that debauched well i mean okay by some people's standards like

01:09:07.540 we're very pro-porn we're very like we're very open about like enjoying low culture and anime and

01:09:16.260 anime and anime and video games and anime video games porn coors lights the worst i mean well yeah i mean

01:09:27.380 a lot of my point is yeah well what i wonder too is you know there's that whole dynamic of oh

01:09:35.220 if your partner is suspects that you're cheating they're probably cheating is there is this kind

01:09:40.860 of the same thing where if someone is heavily criticizing i think that's a good way to stop

01:09:46.180 the behavior to make that assumption going forward to be like the only people who do this sort of moral

01:09:50.740 policing or are people who like are closeted moral bankrupt morally bankrupt people yeah i mean i

01:09:59.340 just think that like the only person who really like gets angry about this stuff and and edges on

01:10:04.560 this stuff is people who have done it in the past you know well yeah i i'm trying to think of the

01:10:09.300 the people who freak out about like you using ivf or the people who have had secret abortions right

01:10:14.140 like it's always like whatever you're doing but in some way like twisted but there's different so

01:10:18.460 there there are people who criticize ivf and who we've had fantastic ivf debates about but then

01:10:24.820 we're like like that's sinful like do it but it's sinful and i don't think that they're secretly like

01:10:31.140 they are because they're not about like people who give a lot of what i would say is like etiquette

01:10:38.340 or moral advice and who i genuinely believe stick to it like i'm thinking about the emily post books

01:10:43.760 that i love so much moral advice that is emotionally charged or moral policing that

01:10:49.340 is emotionally charged there's no reason yeah yeah when it's but when it's logically driven i think

01:10:54.900 when people are like hey you know it's it's it's optimal to do this because x reason i think then you

01:11:02.880 can kind of trust them whereas if someone's like look at this disgusting cow like there's there's

01:11:08.040 something there yeah maybe yeah oh you know what another example of this that i see a lot

01:11:16.920 is actually with diet shaming the the people that i see online for example who have youtube channels

01:11:23.020 where they do a lot of diet shaming are themselves very clearly disordered in their eating and like not

01:11:29.560 and closeted about it so like they themselves have their own like healthy eating programs and it's very

01:11:34.640 clear that they're like incredibly disordered and they're like they both body dysmorphia and very

01:11:40.800 like poorly handled eating problems and then they like to go on and critique other people's things

01:11:46.160 and there's a whole circle of that so i think that's yeah that's it when it's when it's emotionally

01:11:49.920 charged it's there's a red flag yeah like i'm very open about the fact that i'm a functional anorexic

01:11:55.760 and i have zero qualms about it much of the criticism that has been directed at the pair has centered on

01:12:03.280 the fact that stock apparently entered into a sexual relationship with a married man right before

01:12:08.080 she decided to have her own marriage blessed by the pope why would you wouldn't you like can you

01:12:13.360 imagine how miserable you'd be having your marriage blessed by the pope having done all that though

01:12:20.080 or maybe not because you just ask for forgiveness if you don't believe any of it and you can ask for

01:12:24.160 forgiveness it makes for a really good confessional session you know what i mean

01:12:27.760 oh the priest is like i can only imagine some like catholic priests like wow

01:12:34.640 clap clap clap like you are not good at this i don't know i could actually i could model a mindset

01:12:44.800 being catholic this is not understanding catholicism very well maybe not because i

01:12:50.480 i had a college crush on a guy who became a catholic priest and we'd ask him a lot of questions

01:12:55.840 about catholicism as an excuse to talk to him and so maybe i know more about catholicism than i want

01:13:01.760 to admit to myself but i could see a world in which you kind of want something good to bring to

01:13:07.920 confession because otherwise the drama of your life gets very boring and like the whole catholic thing

01:13:14.400 is like the struggle to become pure and good and clean you know like the whole point is climbing up on

01:13:21.680 your husband right before your marriage is blessed well but like where's the narrative in that where's

01:13:26.480 the confession where's the redemption like it's all about the hero's journey but just again and again

01:13:31.600 and again and you're not going to get a hero's journey if you haven't sinned so having a good

01:13:36.800 sin and a good thing to take to confessional and a good redemption arc so like maybe that's what

01:13:43.680 catholics really like stories narrative arcs yeah yeah you need a redemption arc so sinning is okay

01:13:49.440 because you you can't really have a redemption arc without it like where is the suffering where's the

01:13:53.840 toil if you're just born a saint right and then those who are saints who just are amazing go out of

01:13:59.680 their way to become martyrs because how else are they going to go through their suffering of a

01:14:04.480 redemption arc if not like to be martyrs right so maybe that's kind of the thing the thing i point out

01:14:10.320 when people are like oh you criticize people on your show as well no when we criticize people it's over

01:14:14.880 it's over strategy it's over like i think that the way that for example bannon has acted in the

01:14:21.360 past was very deleterious the wider conservative movement or ben shapiro has acted is deleterious to

01:14:27.920 the wider conservative movement in his individual goals that's different from being like i think ben

01:14:34.000 shapiro has a crush on his sister or something right which a lot of people do right you know they'll

01:14:40.240 say something like that which is just like a personal you know attack or i think that you know

01:14:45.680 x person isn't being chased enough right i i don't think so yeah anyway to continue

01:14:52.560 the trad stuff is a performative bs it declared a mega influencer emily saves america who had clashed

01:14:57.920 with stock in the diamond size debate sidley watson chauffeur's former blaze co-host who sued the

01:15:03.040 company over his alleged harassment posted a picture of the frog character peeking through the blinds

01:15:10.880 rift tv personalities dropped their affiliations with the site listed on their x accounts

01:15:16.000 even an indian account on x dredged up an old attack chauffeur made on the hindu god vishnu declaring

01:15:22.720 that his current scoundrel vindicated the hindu pantheon what on vishnu again it declared

01:15:30.880 oh my god apparently he's like anti-indian and yet some people were likely

01:15:35.840 and this is what i see nobody's really that anti-indian like this the thing is but sorry

01:15:40.960 what i mean to say is people can hate indians taking tech jobs you know what i mean and that

01:15:47.760 they have discriminatory hiring practices against indians and those are real and endemic problems in

01:15:54.720 the tech industry but the problem is is anyone who's been personally affected by those issues also

01:16:00.560 likely has indian friends and it's really hard to like actually hate an ethnicity if you have a

01:16:06.640 number of friends from that ethnicity so i don't know though when we posted our our episode about

01:16:12.640 the the scary demography of india as a country people especially canadians oh

01:16:23.520 they mad they mad at the indian

01:16:25.280 well maybe maybe the immigration levels in canada well the immigration levels in canada have gotten

01:16:30.240 to a level where it's not just with indians but but partially with indians it is designed to replace

01:16:35.440 the existing population because they have such low fertility rates and they really need to keep

01:16:40.560 the inflow coming in for for the economic pyramid that is canada to stay afloat well from the perspective

01:16:46.480 of the politicians at this point just need to lean more heavily on made i don't know what to say

01:16:50.400 and what they need is for alberta to break off and join the us yeah come over here let's see how

01:16:56.320 canada gets up gets through without its oil we'd love to have you guys the water's fine yeah

01:17:01.840 not even a year ago at a conservative conference he did he did my friend four

01:17:07.520 times in one night unprotected while he was married a walker said at the time

01:17:13.040 oh what okay sorry i missed this part and yet some people likely not terribly surprised that

01:17:18.480 chauffeur was involved in a scandal like this back in 2020 sassy right-wing influencer

01:17:22.560 christopher walker accused chauffeur of cheating on his wife at a republican event

01:17:26.480 not even a year ago at a conservative conference he did my friend four times in one night unprotected

01:17:32.400 while he was married jeez man at a conservative conference four times in one night it no that's just

01:17:41.520 one night that that's too much effort too no but like no i just feel like saying four times it's

01:17:49.280 like no you're what are you very enthusiastic about the whole thing chauffeur had also made numerous

01:17:57.280 strange thirst trap style photos in recent months in a november instagram post captioned with a message

01:18:03.200 about how much he loved his family the photo showed him smoking an old-timey pipe while wearing an

01:18:08.400 orthodox christian cross but this was immediately followed by a steamy shirtless selfie that cut

01:18:15.760 off right above his groin i'll spare you the actual image what i mean this this to go to a conservative

01:18:23.040 conference to have this persona and then she shows that the whole thing is just completely fake for him

01:18:30.560 everything i don't know i feel like we're missing out on something with conservative conferences

01:18:35.520 because because i also hear about all the like the this spike in gay dating app activity when

01:18:41.920 there's a conservative to hook up with other women is that what you're saying that's why i find your

01:18:46.240 sister why although it just seems like everyone's like hooking up with other women and men are

01:18:50.160 hooking up with men too it's just like men are just swimming in whatever it is they want to swim in

01:18:55.440 it's like okay like let's let's go to the the sex con i mean conservative conference and something's going on i don't know what but like

01:19:05.200 i have been to conservative conferences and i have never been like this is a great place to hook up

01:19:12.640 i'm always like i gotta network and get on the next big show we really missed i mean i think this is one

01:19:18.320 of those things where you have to be connected i mean it's all about the after parties and it's not

01:19:26.240 you know well i mean yeah we're that this is the thing our conservative sphere when i go to the conservative

01:19:30.880 conferences i'm like who do who do i want to meet up with it's like curtis right like he's always fun

01:19:35.360 to chat with at the conferences he's always got some fun thing going on and and and curtis yarvin

01:19:40.560 is not exactly the crazy after party i mean i'm sure he gets invited that's what you think we just don't

01:19:45.120 want to stay up that late yeah oh yeah if we were invited to a party at like eight you and i would be

01:19:49.280 like f that we've seen him at parties at night and then he's just getting warmed up and we're like

01:19:57.760 okay bye goodbye sleep now well i went late the last conservative event into like a club or something

01:20:05.120 and that's where i met lord miles lord miles was there was that it the vegas one or the

01:20:11.520 uh my this is the london one oh okay god are we gonna go to conservative conferences i forgot that

01:20:20.320 damn anyway to continue chauffeur's downfall isn't just a personal shakespearean tragedy

01:20:26.800 a modern adaptation set to the most idiotic corner of the online hype world it adds fodder

01:20:32.080 us to the right's ongoing civil war yannopoulos who plays a sort of mythic trickster role in maga media

01:20:38.240 hates white nationalist podcaster nick fuentes in the hierarchy of the online right chauffeur is

01:20:43.920 a restless vassal of the far more successful fuentes meaning yannopoulos can undermine fuentes

01:20:49.600 by going after chauffeur no surprise then that in one of the recordings yannopoulos released there's

01:20:54.960 discussion about how chauffeur quietly talks so much s-a-h-i-t about fuentes out of envy but the

01:21:02.560 biggest damage may have been inflicted on the online trad brand as a whole conservative

01:21:07.920 podcaster ali buckley complained that the affair demonstrated that women posing as trad wives

01:21:12.640 had become a fetish for right-wing men far-right commentator virillium who recently cut ties with

01:21:19.120 chauffeur after being exposed himself for making posts years ago about being gay summed it up it's

01:21:24.480 all bs he said about the trad lifestyle

01:21:28.880 allie dang dang but this is the whole fuentes fear it's i mean as i said fuentes this thing is a larp

01:21:37.280 anyway and and like his actual lifestyle i've heard it's pretty debauched like i just love that

01:21:42.720 milo yannopoulos is so back he's just like dishing all this dirt on oh absolutely we gotta we gotta

01:21:48.880 recruit my leg in the team hot fights i we gotta get milo yannopoulos on our side of the conservative

01:21:55.200 movement one of our super fans recently asked me who is my favorite catholic influencer and i had

01:22:00.800 totally blinked on this because i haven't watched this stuff in a while but easily the answer would be

01:22:04.720 my like i was just so sad when i heard that he like wasn't gay anymore because i have this weird

01:22:10.080 bias and i was like well that means he's not going to be fun anymore i like i don't know why i thought

01:22:15.040 that it's not like when you choose to not indulge in a certain like element of your sexuality that you

01:22:20.400 just cease to be everything else with your personality but i just thought that and i was just

01:22:25.200 i can't express the relief i felt when it turned out that no he's still hilarious catty articulate

01:22:31.680 but but he like disappeared from where i was at i used to love his content i was so sad too

01:22:36.800 yeah and no he's just he was he had this is the thing we're recently talking with our super fans

01:22:43.440 about like if we do like meetups about like why fuentes is as popular as he is and one of the things

01:22:48.240 i said is it's one of the big reasons probably just that he seems to be happy when he talks about

01:22:53.280 like your friends are fuentes not milo yannopoulos yeah he seems happy too but i was gonna say

01:22:58.720 yannopoulos is the only other conservative that seems as happy as fuentes yeah when he's

01:23:03.520 in his like controversial and i think he just did the nick fuentes take much better than fuentes ever

01:23:08.960 did he was like smarter and better at debating so i'd love to see him get back into the the game

01:23:14.880 i mean i think especially given that his arc now you know he actually you know went through

01:23:19.040 something and and challenged a mainstream narrative which is like being same-sex attractive

01:23:24.000 that's something you have to make a lifestyle so that'd be fun to see but the broader thing

01:23:29.600 here and i think you see this is in the online civil war i think a lot of people can't see what

01:23:35.920 is very apparent to a lot of the online right is it the other side the moralizing side they're all

01:23:42.800 faking it they're they're generally grifters who are saying what they're saying for the fame

01:23:49.920 like but recently nick fuentes has come out and he's like i love jeffrey epstein right

01:23:54.080 so you gotta understand if you think like oh hitler's good because nick fuentes said hitler

01:23:58.720 is good he liked hitler in the same way he liked jeffrey epstein okay like these are equivalent figures

01:24:04.480 to him right and you gotta realize oh maybe he's just saying whatever he thinks is the most shocking

01:24:10.480 thing he can say is and he doesn't have a coherent larger ideology in the because there's no reason

01:24:16.160 to like to think jeffrey epstein is cool like well where it starts to fall apart is when it's hitler

01:24:22.800 and stalin and jeffrey epstein if you liked it one or multiple of them for their for yeah

01:24:32.880 like the controversial all of them for their merits yeah and then also just not also simultaneously

01:24:40.720 appreciate other people who are more broadly lauded for their merits shows

01:24:48.800 i just wish that the mob was better or could more quickly discern when somebody is fake like this

01:24:55.760 because i think it's often pretty obvious if the guy got fired for groping his co-worker

01:25:01.280 he is not a traditional family man i don't think people care about what's true or fake i think they

01:25:09.520 care about how people make them feel yeah that's true so it doesn't matter this guy managed to make

01:25:17.840 people feel a certain way and i think one of the reasons why a lot of these people cast shade is

01:25:25.120 because other people enjoy seeing that happen milo yiannopoulos cast shade because people enjoy

01:25:32.240 watching him do it and he does it really well so i i it that's not i don't think that's the question

01:25:40.800 i think that the more important question is how can you do this even if you're disingenuous in a way

01:25:49.040 that is sustainable and maybe part of it involves having to occasionally reinvent yourself like milo

01:25:56.960 yiannopoulos did um i think this guy kind of did that when he went from groping employees to

01:26:05.920 touting his trad dad lifestyle and now he's going to go for some new redemption arc of

01:26:13.440 i've recovered from i mean look at how jordan peterson did that oh and i'm recovering from

01:26:19.120 addiction it's just that that these various public figures are able to make these recoveries

01:26:25.040 with varying degrees of success not everyone is able to pull it off so you can be as fake

01:26:32.000 as you want to be it's more a question of how you manage the narrative and how that

01:26:36.000 narrative makes people feel and how entertaining it is for people to watch

01:26:41.520 that makes a lot of sense you can see this with totally non-political figures as well

01:26:47.120 uh who show up in various like you know snark youtube history channels you know like from

01:26:57.360 random youtubers who have weird tragic upbringings as weeb stars to i don't know i just even myself the

01:27:08.880 funny thing about me is is if i made a living moralizing about sexual values and i was at a

01:27:16.720 conservative conference it's not even out of morality i wouldn't sleep with a random woman there i wouldn't

01:27:22.800 do it because i'd be too scared about hurting my career like the the level of just um foolishness

01:27:31.680 on display here like does he have any self-control i think no part of it's though

01:27:38.560 it's like a demon that only exists if you give it power and if you believe in it

01:27:53.120 like if you just stop caring about sex which of course for many easier said than done but like

01:28:02.640 it okay look at very conservative islamic societies right or even historical societies in in in many

01:28:10.640 western countries there's this you know collective belief that oh like if a woman is uncovered i won't

01:28:16.480 be able to control myself like of course i will r-a-p-e her right like how i of it was her

01:28:22.960 fault you know she i saw her and then people do it right like but you can't have that that they they

01:28:31.920 need each other that that that very conservative approach to sexuality and morality is needed like

01:28:40.640 it it can't be justified if you don't also have this uncontrollable urge and i think you can't be

01:28:47.760 this kind of really good point moralizer if you're not also like seeing yourself and genuinely believing

01:28:55.520 that you're constantly tempted because why else would you stand from the high hill of social media

01:29:02.320 and scream out to your followers how important it is to have these values and restrain yourself

01:29:07.280 restrain yourself from what i mean for us it's like well i don't care you know so we don't need

01:29:13.680 to talk about it because it's not a struggle you need it to be a struggle so of course they're going

01:29:18.320 to slip because well i mean and also if you're going out there and he is actually following the

01:29:25.360 rules on something like porn right the whole not sleeping with random people is going to be a lot

01:29:30.960 harder thing like another guy might just be like oh i'm gonna go back you know and goon or something

01:29:36.880 like that and he's like oh here's a that's not an option for me so i'm gonna use a real girl as my

01:29:41.840 only hole it's so gross that people live that way like don't involve someone else in your non-procreative

01:29:51.440 sexual activity i'm seeing right now if he if he had anti-porn views because yeah that freaking explains

01:29:58.800 it for me so many people have anti-porn views and i i only respect a very small segment of them

01:30:06.400 that that also believe that non-procreative sex is a sin like i will respect your your anti-porn

01:30:13.040 views if that's what you hold if you are only having unprotected sex with your spouse

01:30:21.520 here when we talk about porn versus anti-porn i'm not talking about porn involving

01:30:24.640 real women i am i am not for that because that has negative externalities for the women involved

01:30:31.120 oh human non-synthetic porn yeah but like ai porn and stuff like that i don't i don't see what the

01:30:37.760 negative so yeah he was anti-porn on multiple instances across social media of course he was

01:30:44.080 of course he was that really feels to me so disingenuous when many people talk about it though

01:30:51.680 because it just seems like one of those things that you say because you know people are gonna be

01:30:57.120 like yeah like it's almost like talking about the weather in certain circles like man it's so cold

01:31:02.800 i just hate the cold then everyone's like yeah i hate the cold this sucks or like oh it's too hot

01:31:07.920 i'm sweating like a what what sweats a lot i was gonna say like a horse do horses sweat

01:31:13.600 you pee like a racehorse you sweat like a pig do you pick sweat though you've never

01:31:27.440 seen a sweaty pig anyway uh i i yeah i just i i actually think that a lot of people haven't put

01:31:36.320 really any thought into it and they may not consume what they consider to be erotic material

01:31:44.160 themselves especially if they're women because they read romance novels and they're like i'm just

01:31:47.920 reading literature it's fine i am an intellectual it's just 50 shades of gray yes

01:31:57.040 men and their degenerate vanilla how dare these men read this i'm gonna read no i love it when women

01:32:05.520 are like i just watch books about monster effing but how dare these men watch porn where women are

01:32:10.640 being degraded no don't you understand malcolm that morning glory milking farm is an anti-capitalist

01:32:17.200 scream the great intellectual work of our time god you're amazing thank you very much malcolm

01:32:24.960 you are fantastic i don't know if you saw this morning andy was so sweet when i was kneeling down

01:32:30.640 and i was still feeding text when i was checking on her and then she just wants to stand close to me and

01:32:35.200 hold texas bottle and feed him yeah and help with feeding my turkey she knows what i mean i'll say it

01:32:46.960 later okay i love these noodles i love you i love you wonderful day me too all right so did i i blow your

01:32:59.520 mind with that episode yeah that was jeffrey epstein freaking incredible no one else found that evidence

01:33:07.600 i was like why no one else is pointing at that and they're all pointing at this like obviously

01:33:11.440 like doctored images and stuff i part of me wonders if

01:33:18.960 people involved with the epstein file releases intentionally waited until ai got especially

01:33:24.960 generative ai got further along until releasing more files because at this point people are having

01:33:30.080 such a crisis of reality in terms of what's real and what's not and there are so many ai fakes mixed

01:33:36.480 in with everything that's being released where people are kind of not caring anymore and they're like

01:33:40.880 i don't know it's real anymore so i'm just overloaded and i don't care well i think it does

01:33:45.520 dampen you it's creators like nuts and asthma gold who otherwise you know i respect and i see as goals for like

01:33:51.760 our channel they don't even google before they present something is this a provably doctored image

01:33:57.440 well you know the views they i think they view this more as entertainment value and not as as

01:34:08.080 news reporting and they never pretend to be like i'm going to give you the facts we we try like we what

01:34:15.280 we're doing in our channel is you and i as husband and wife are talking through things that we find

01:34:20.480 interesting and genuinely trying to figure out what we think of reality so we're a little bit more

01:34:24.880 focused on trying to get to at least what we want to conclude as our going reality at for any hypothesis

01:34:32.160 for reality yeah because but asmongold and he's very clear about this is all about the entertainment

01:34:40.640 value and he's talked about this in the context of for example the johnny depp and amber heard trial

01:34:45.760 where he was just like i farmed that for days like it was great it wasn't about truth it wasn't

01:34:50.160 about substance it wasn't about figuring out something about the world it was about watching

01:34:54.320 the dumpster fire burn and you can also see this in his ice coverage i respect that and i don't expect

01:34:59.280 him to give me accurate information i expect him to give me amusing reactions to things and i'm 100

01:35:04.080 here for it i love them all right well we're going to do a little bit of that today watching the world burn

01:35:10.960 good what happens if he sees the dinosaurs here i find all of them will he gobble them up

01:35:24.640 but titan you're a shark princess what if you gobble them up no titan do you eat dinosaurs

01:35:33.440 that makes sense that makes sense and so you've got to build the paddock to protect them from yourself

01:35:45.040 right

01:35:56.240 oh no the t-rex is looking hungry

01:36:02.400 what are you doing to help octavian

01:36:15.040 what are the helicopters going to destroy the t-rex

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Are ＂Trad Wives＂ Just E-Girls？

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