Based Camp - Buddhist Cult At The Nexus of The Tech Elite (It Wants to Kill Your Soul)

00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about

00:00:03.960 something that genuinely terrifies me. I feel like we're personally blowing the lid off of

00:00:09.920 this particular controversy. So if you guys remember, we had an episode where we were

00:00:15.180 following organizations that had been funding. These were effective altruist organizations.

00:00:22.100 These are sort of tech elite types, often on the leftist side of things, that had been funding

00:00:27.360 organizations that have been secretly planting people within news organizations without telling

00:00:32.780 you to try to shut down the development of ai like the famous guardian piece where three of

00:00:38.580 the people were paid off all three of them who wrote the piece six six paid off yeah basically

00:00:43.820 yeah it was it was all of the expert sources it was the author and it was the publication itself

00:00:49.180 so yes to the tunes of millions of dollars and when we were chasing down their religious

00:00:55.620 entanglements but one of the things that we noted and we sort of passed it off was well it appears

00:01:02.220 the largest religious group while they have been putting millions into christian groups the largest

00:01:06.700 is some buddhist group and then the the just off the cuff statement was and it appears it's mostly

00:01:14.480 one group so we mentioned this one group that a few days later a fan reaches out to us and they're

00:01:20.480 like, that is something you want to double click on. So I will read a, uh, excerpt about the leader

00:01:29.960 of this particular group. Okay. Sawyer considers human extinction as a noble impulse and as an

00:01:37.920 exically defensible goal. He has repeatedly shared that killing every human on earth to protect the 0.86

00:01:45.240 rest of life on earth was his explicit life purposes from the ages of a nine to 19 oh my

00:01:53.400 crisper a gene modifying technique that could be used to create a novel bioweapon

00:01:59.180 as his best available means

00:02:01.940 that's worse than the antinatalist the antinatalists are like look the animals are way more

00:02:08.740 miserable than we are they need to go to where he wants to keep them around where they you know

00:02:14.120 Of course. Let the lions eat. It's just us who can't cause suffering, right?

00:02:18.180 Let all of the insects in nature that eat animals and birds and frogs...

00:02:24.140 Let all the gazelles be eaten alive by the lions. It's fine.

00:02:28.900 Well, you know, there are actually effective altruist organizations that have been funded to stop animals killing other animals in nature.

00:02:36.020 There was the argument that it was, we might even do an episode on this point, that it was the largest overlooked cause area that we needed to stop animal predation.

00:02:44.120 no we did do an episode on it i did the episode came out six months ago and it was called the

00:02:52.320 morality of the elite technocrat look you thought we did an episode on the victorian cult that

00:02:58.340 loved beating women well i'll look it up i'll see but he has now moved to what he wants to attempt 0.91

00:03:05.800 to do until his vision shifted to killing them spiritually oh because as a superior alternative 0.99

00:03:14.560 just kill their souls at least it's for eternity it's how to really get it done but the reason i 0.99

00:03:21.620 wanted to go into this and no he he said that's the awakening and you could say well that's just 0.99

00:03:26.000 you know being this is what buddhists believe this is one school of like genuine buddha thought

00:03:30.400 like we need to kill you spiritually yeah um and this is what they want to do so i want to get into

00:03:35.420 this cult that this guy has built up it's incredibly dangerous if you follow this guy's 0.98

00:03:43.460 individual story what is so interesting is this particular impulse of his to eradicate all of

00:03:48.840 humanity i decided to dig deeper into it to be like okay did he say this like what's actually

00:03:55.540 going on here is this actually a cult how dangerous is this organization that apparently

00:04:00.380 has its tendrils they've been funded by jp morgan by the way they've been fun note here the funding

00:04:07.080 from jp morgan was more like a fund that funneled through jp morgan than jp morgan directly

00:04:11.520 the survival and flourishing fund which is the org that funded us and and and funds a lot of

00:04:16.540 this anti-ai sentiment uh they've been funded by innumerable effective altruist orgs like they're

00:04:25.540 really closely tied to uh what was that ink something uh thing that happened at that hacker

00:04:31.780 house that used to invite us until they were mad that we're not approving of you know everything

00:04:37.580 that trans people say yeah you know how manifest held that second conference called ink something 0.53

00:04:42.860 less online was what happened before right oh no there was the second thing that they did that

00:04:48.840 was for like writing stuff oh um so anyway they're really tied with manifest and stuff like this so

00:04:54.040 This is like one degree of separation from us.

00:04:56.600 If the techno-Puritans had like a mortal enemy as an organization,

00:05:01.500 we have found it. 1.00

00:05:02.620 Because like the Zizians, this is the trans murder cult 1.00

00:05:05.900 that also spun out of the EA org. 1.00

00:05:08.000 It really was a trans.

00:05:10.760 Almost everyone in the organization was trans 0.97

00:05:12.920 and they killed more people than the Manson family. 0.85

00:05:15.680 And yet you probably haven't heard of them.

00:05:18.340 Yeah, but they killed people. 0.76

00:05:21.140 Not in a, we need to take out all the people.

00:05:23.520 not even in an ideological way they killed a landlord who wanted them to pay their rent after

00:05:28.720 like years of non-payment they killed somebody's parents who they killed someone's parents and then 0.98

00:05:32.920 they killed someone who pulled them over look up the zizians if you don't know about them you're 0.97

00:05:37.760 we have an episode on them you can read about them this is fantastic yeah yeah um but i think 0.66

00:05:42.440 that a lot of people the reason i wanted to go into this is um there's this perception that okay

00:05:50.660 the rank and file democrat whatever uh you know they're they're evil they're extremists they're

00:05:58.700 lobbying stuff at cars on the streets but you know they're the the behind the scenes intellectuals

00:06:07.820 controlling everything presumably they're less nefarious right like they're not so evil

00:06:16.320 their intellectual upstream of this movement is like more muted because i think in republican

00:06:23.980 circles that's often the way it is if you look at a channel like ours i mean i think we're pretty

00:06:28.180 extreme but a lot of people think that we're fairly muted and you see this in a lot of sort

00:06:31.620 of upstream republican intellectual groups um and the reason i wanted to highlight and bring this

00:06:37.840 group their practices to light is so that people can see actually the people at the end of this

00:06:45.520 are not muted they do want the eradication of all life on earth they do want the subjugation

00:06:51.220 i mean this org talks about turning the world into a monastery and they think that 50 they did

00:06:59.060 this in an atlantic article they said this so they're not like quiet about this so um they want

00:07:04.060 to create their own army um they said the army to do what if they're buddhists they're to enforce

00:07:10.580 their lifestyle which we will get to what their lifestyle is are you serious yeah and well they 0.89

00:07:17.940 want to use an army and an ai god they call it the demigore or the cyber no cyber gore um and so

00:07:26.620 they're trying to build i know not a very appealing name for an ai god right no but also like we have

00:07:32.240 organizations out there called hugging face which to me just sounds like you know a sort of alien

00:07:36.940 situation um i'm not i'm not into this the demigore what what is this timeline

00:07:46.040 why sorry carry on so anyway um so they want 50 percent of all of the world's gross revenue

00:07:55.880 dedicated to the development of an ai god um and tear to dream what they want this ai god to do

00:08:04.040 is monitor everything you do all day every day to ensure that you are living within their ethical

00:08:11.980 framework and so we're gonna go into this in general i think that that would be a really

00:08:16.620 cool thing for any religion to have going forward like just constantly someone being like

00:08:21.980 you're a little jimmy cricket oh no no i agree if you you are thinking that they're like a normal

00:08:28.640 religion like a christian group or mormon group or like a whatever yeah they're not uh what they

00:08:34.280 mean is absolute control to a dictator um who's going to control every aspect of your day you are

00:08:40.680 not allowed to look at a screen you are not allowed entertainment you are not allowed um

00:08:45.580 anything which is very interesting given like they they have a practice where they leave people

00:08:50.360 in isolation for like two to three months at a time and you're only allowed to talk to their

00:08:53.840 founder oh so it's like their their silent retreat and truth perhaps you can answer the

00:09:00.160 one question that has plagued thinkers for all time what doff life what i find fascinating about

00:09:10.160 this oregon philosophy is how much it actually does align with xavier renegade angel if you're

00:09:15.900 familiar with that show here's a person analyzing in xavier renegade angel how they mix uh native

00:09:22.080 american mysticism and buddhism and mathematics to create a philosophy that makes no sense on

00:09:28.740 its face and those are the exact three lines of thought that make up this guy's worldview

00:09:34.040 xavier's symbol happily mixes imagery from mathematics native american religion and

00:09:40.300 chinese philosophy it's representative of the eclecticism found in westernized spiritual

00:09:44.900 circles and it's representative of that kind of haphazard combination of religions at will 0.82

00:09:50.840 I found a fun write-up of what it's like to be there from somebody who appears to be pro this organization. 0.99

00:09:59.080 As I entered the circular-shaped room, I noticed a large wooden sign sitting on the opposite end.

00:10:03.840 It read, Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. This place will not support you. Abandon hope and fear.

00:10:10.560 I grabbed my chant sheets and took my seat alongside the perimeter of the room.

00:10:15.580 i looked around and noticed that of the 30 available cushions only one was still empty

00:10:20.720 we waited silently as soon as the clock hit 4 40 the woman next to me jumped to her feet 1.00

00:10:26.120 and stormed out of the room five minutes later she returned with a haggard looking figure behind her

00:10:30.820 the man shambled over to the open cushion still half asleep we do not tolerate tardiness the 0.99

00:10:37.020 woman commanded into the silence as she returned next to me my back straightened poor bastard i 0.99

00:10:43.100 thought. For the next hour, we chanted in Japanese, Pali, and English, followed by an hour of silent 0.95

00:10:48.900 meditation. By the time we were finished, sunlight streaming through the windows. What I find

00:10:53.080 interesting here is not the discipline. I appreciate discipline. It's that the people

00:10:56.280 don't even follow the discipline. They're not able to inspire people to be interested in their

00:11:02.360 particular mission. And it's because their mission is so obviously pointless. I mean,

00:11:05.700 just imagine in this time of civilizational flux, wasting your time chanting in a language you don't

00:11:12.680 even speak when you could be out there producing something trying to make the world a better place

00:11:17.560 to continue later that evening we reclaimed our cushions for another two hours of meditation

00:11:24.400 and chanting the schedule was rinse and repeat every day for 10 days and that i was there everyone

00:11:30.700 there seemed to be searching for something for a few residents the outside world had proven a

00:11:35.240 bizarre and unforgiving place in the monastery with a refuge it provided a home and a community

00:11:39.740 that aligned with their values so they decided to stay for others the monastery was a barrio a

00:11:44.620 transitional state between two lives and so he's basically talking about how they they rope people

00:11:50.040 into this and when they're there all productivity is sat from them all ability to contribute to the

00:11:55.300 world is sat for them if your goal is saving all of human life and and continuing flourishing which

00:12:01.240 is not this guy's goal it's saving all life that's not human that's all he seems to care about that

00:12:05.440 thus the crisper thing thus him saying i want to preserve life like the name of the institute

00:12:09.960 obviously excluding human life in this equation uh or at least significantly downplaying its

00:12:15.620 importance even if that was his goal what he is doing it's clearly not moving people towards that

00:12:21.600 direction and if anything is moving the world away from that direction to any logical person

00:12:26.620 to anyone who's applying like rational judgment to the efficaciousness of the way he's approaching

00:12:32.940 his cause which is perhaps what i find most upsetting about this is its wanton disregard

00:12:38.760 for achieving the goals it is selling to people that it has and what's fascinating about this

00:12:45.700 group is if you look at like the whistleblowers we have had on our show so you look at people

00:12:51.000 like ayla ayla early guest on the show good friend of ours one of the godmothers one of our 1.00

00:12:55.240 kids and people on the right are like well but she's also you know a prostitute so she's evil 1.00

00:12:59.220 and it's like i i think ayla tries you know like i i don't agree with everything that she does

00:13:06.060 was in her life and everything like this but i think she's a considerate and brave person to

00:13:10.760 the stuff she stands up against she made a post standing up against this organization

00:13:15.800 five years ago dude um and was attacked for it quite soundly it's specifically what it was it

00:13:22.840 was a long facebook post where she goes from what i have seen of this organization which is pulling

00:13:29.080 a lot of people from our community sending people to our events going to tech companies and setting

00:13:35.440 up these like monastery for a day things where they attempt to you know clean people's brains

00:13:41.940 if you know what i'm talking about remove all the bad thoughts which is really what they say they're

00:13:45.880 like i just want to you know clean your i want to remove all the bad thoughts right you know and

00:13:48.940 other people might call this brain washing but they don't see it this way because they're like

00:13:52.920 well most people genuinely have mostly bad thoughts and we need to remove them uh another

00:13:58.180 thing to note about this organization if you're talking about how they control things that the

00:14:01.700 founder has made it so that once you join the organization a lot of people have given their

00:14:07.160 life savings to this guy they've given all their money they're now dependent on him um the way that

00:14:11.840 he operates is really shady as well so for example they they paid over a million dollars for this

00:14:17.480 property in rural vermont where they built all these and i'll put an image on screen here of this

00:14:21.640 and you can look it up simone it's quite a nice facility i saw the pictures it looks idyllic i

00:14:27.460 mean you put anything in vermont and suddenly it looks idyllic but yeah i mean so they they

00:14:32.580 way that they paid for this because like how did they pay for this it looks expensive they went

00:14:37.940 around and they begged their network for loans and the moment they got the loans and paid for

00:14:47.840 the property they didn't immediately begin to put really aggressive pressure on everyone in the

00:14:52.220 network to forgive the loans and they got like well over 50 forgiven and if you look at what

00:14:57.780 their income is now because i was going over their recent financials they are getting uh i think it's

00:15:03.640 around half a million dollars in donations a quarter from whom who is doing so the way that

00:15:10.840 they do this is they force everybody who is at one of their retreats to spend um i think it's

00:15:18.060 like a week every quarter or something like this doing nothing but first you create a list of all

00:15:23.980 of your like friends and family members who you might be able to extract money from and then you

00:15:28.520 have to really aggressively hit anyone you could extract money from while you're paying to be there

00:15:34.440 it's not like a free thing to be at their institution and and so they'll do like these

00:15:40.200 big parties if like you got a lot of money out of your grandparents or something like they tell

00:15:43.860 you to target like elderly people they tell you to target like it's really abusive and if you

00:15:51.300 really want to hate this organization i will put the face of the guy who runs it here the moment

00:15:56.620 simone saw this she's like i hate them so much after seeing this guy but the reason i say that 0.90

00:16:02.360 they're more dangerous than the zizians as we move into this and i get more into specific claims here

00:16:06.260 is twofold and i think it's worth noting one that this guy had the explicit goal of eradicating all 0.88

00:16:14.840 human life and they planned for doing it that was plausible especially if he had money and

00:16:21.080 a private location right um and that the ea orgs and the silicon valley orgs these are like the

00:16:30.220 elitist tech bro circles right the reason why they mostly cut ties with this org is because of an

00:16:37.420 elected sorry an accused sa thing what and it's not even like that severe it was like a guy

00:16:47.020 fingered a girl or something on a beach and the girl who he did this to other people have attested

00:16:53.260 that she was very aggressively hitting on other staff members um um which i believe when i look

00:17:00.400 at a picture of her i'm sorry to say this oh my god you look and you're like sometimes you look 0.82

00:17:06.540 and you're like look i've seen the other girls who go to this if they were just going after the

00:17:10.080 hot girls this is not what was happening here um and i know that we used to say believe all women 0.51

00:17:16.280 and then like basically society was like wait a second women lie a lot um

00:17:23.340 uh but okay great great great great from what i have seen from the number of people on each

00:17:30.160 side of this particular story of hers and i want to tell you why i don't think

00:17:34.480 essay happened with her okay okay this is an organization that has produced copious people

00:17:41.300 who said they have had their brains tortured for years on end by this organization who say

00:17:47.700 they've been exposed to extreme trauma by this organization who say that this organization has

00:17:52.360 financially exploited them and left them destitute who have pointed out this organization one of the

00:17:57.240 creepiest things i read that this organization did is somebody achieved transcripts of people

00:18:01.780 saying like i thought a lot of people had read left the organization recently and that made me

00:18:06.960 concerned and so then i talked to leadership and then i realized only a few had and then they point

00:18:11.900 out at the actual numbers and they're like actually a group of seven people left all at once shortly

00:18:15.980 before this and it shows this level of like brainwashing like not being able to think for

00:18:20.420 yourself once you're in this right wow um but the reason why i don't think they actually essayed

00:18:27.540 this person is out of all of these allegations and as i've said there are copious allegations

00:18:31.000 from numerous angles about this organization the reason i believe the murder thing is because

00:18:36.080 the response to the aila post that was defending the org mentioned it and that's what i was like

00:18:44.040 and they're like and he was trying to talk about how he doesn't want to murder everyone anymore

00:18:47.340 and i'm like that's not a normal thought to have and he's never explicitly decried it he's never

00:18:51.960 come out and written like yeah i did say that at one point in the past i did believe that at one

00:18:56.580 point in the past but i don't like i'm really against that now it's more like no i just want

00:19:01.820 to murder everyone spiritually now like and make everybody follow my ideology even the techno

00:19:09.120 puritans don't want everyone to follow our ideology right like even the techno puritans

00:19:13.700 don't say you all need to relate to animals in the way we do you all need to relate to

00:19:17.100 relationships it's a very totalizing religious system which is what makes it so dangerous but 0.77

00:19:21.720 the point i was making here is out of all of this uh no other sa accusations in the entire

00:19:27.040 organizational history now that's pretty good for any kind of cultish organization that's actually

00:19:34.780 very good also when you just consider your general effective altruist or rationalist social circle

00:19:40.540 let alone group pretty much all of them if you look at mary like half the people at mary's have

00:19:46.340 been by one of the higher ups like so i think the issue here is that this is actually a very uniquely

00:19:51.660 asexual or sexless group and apparently it selects for people like that and is is conspicuously absent

00:20:00.400 of any of this stuff i think we can't really yeah right but i'm not coming at this with like

00:20:07.000 the negative standard ea like oh i'm on a witch hunt for anything that anyone's ever accused you

00:20:11.680 of um this sex stuff like i actually i'm giving the org a pass on it if they have gotten away 0.57

00:20:18.420 without a single other in the ea community which had all of the waves of me too isms and all of the 0.51

00:20:25.860 waves of any of you know the communities every polyamorous is polyamorous that and that nothing

00:20:31.400 has ever been accused of the founder who also from everything i found has never had a sexual

00:20:37.140 relationship with anyone that anyone's been able to document um he appears to be if anything this

00:20:43.940 makes it more dangerous um uh very uh like serious about like his actual goals with all of this

00:20:52.220 and i would note for people before i dive into more here his goal or potential goal because he

00:21:00.020 hasn't really attacked it or revoked it yet of eradicating humanity uh it i love that the ea

00:21:10.060 organization wasn't concerned about that the ea community eradicate humanity yeah i mean we all

00:21:14.480 want to do that some days right like this is ea negative utilitarians are normal it's perfectly

00:21:18.540 in alliance with buddhism's long-term goals like i can see why he aligned with buddhism

00:21:23.360 because it's effectively a negative utilitarian religion right like life is suffering let's end

00:21:28.460 suffering that's less in life right like let's in the cycle right and and that's his goal um

00:21:33.740 oh i was going to note that he says that you can only listen to him if you're a member like if

00:21:39.240 you're in this institution and if you're not listening to him you can only read intellectual

00:21:44.540 stuff written by asians east asians he's white i know

00:21:51.000 um does that mean people aren't allowed to listen to him i mean doesn't he think he's been approved

00:22:00.960 because he went to oh he's like an honorary certifications and yeah he's basically he just

00:22:07.480 doesn't want any ideas that could challenge him and it's not that everything he says is

00:22:10.380 one of the things that i think is good that he does is he's very anti-modern psychology

00:22:14.760 which we're also against uh yeah i mean so are the scientologists so are scientologists yeah he's

00:22:20.800 also generally pro controlling your emotions which we're also totally totally but then he

00:22:25.520 says that you need to dedicate your entire life to the great love and i'm like it's about controlling

00:22:29.600 your emotions yeah so uh let's get into some of the recent accusations of this group and i also

00:22:39.520 find the group's politics oh i'll read a thing from one of the people defending this group so

00:22:44.840 you can get an idea of like what happens to somebody after they're in the group okay okay

00:22:48.720 this is him defending it trying to not look crazy okay okay it was all according to soyu's plan

00:22:57.300 that's the leader he knew he wouldn't defeat the rationalists in one fell swoop so instead he used

00:23:02.980 their greatest weakness against them he designed a situation that would lead them inexorably to

00:23:07.340 overthinking you see they'd become beautifully proficient in making maps but they never learned

00:23:12.900 how to stop so once called forth their power of discrimination accumulated into a terrible mass

00:23:19.000 a mountain of analysis entombed us in the weight of endless distinctions sorry you smiled finally

00:23:25.640 the bloody gears of civilization stopped the diversity of life on earth preserved he had done

00:23:31.720 it of course b wasn't an analysis paralysis that wouldn't be rational and furthermore they'd long 0.72

00:23:37.820 prepared for sawyer's machinations planting a mole deep in the organization zhitsun it was a

00:23:43.680 dangerous assignment and although zhitsun would be able to trust himself once the mind control began

00:23:48.660 he had held on to one truth that so long as he endeavored to communicate thoroughly and honestly

00:23:54.480 the expert statisticians at miri would use debasing techniques to extract the same powerful

00:24:00.880 inferences as you can see this is how they feel like well after after people have gone into their

00:24:06.100 org and like recorded the the stuff that they've the crazy stuff they've been doing this is how

00:24:10.780 they respond which no in case you're wondering this is that a normal way to respond to something

00:24:15.900 right and i think that we are uniquely qualified to speak on this particular issue because both of

00:24:24.240 us are orgs that were originally funded by survival and flourishing fund not just the survival and

00:24:31.000 flourishing fund but they grew out of the effective altruist community right except we have been more

00:24:35.700 thoroughly cut out of the community than they have okay so that's one thing to know right like

00:24:40.800 they still have they seem to have been cut out though right and weren't you saying that the

00:24:44.220 survival and flourishing fund gave their donation to them before even we received ours in 2021

00:24:49.320 one wasn't it they were 2019 yeah okay so they they have been i mean they're still getting money

00:24:54.860 right so they're still getting it but i think it's mostly that they're just extractive now

00:24:58.420 yeah these like week-long sessions of give me your money yeah um but they are still when i read posts

00:25:07.240 people will say that members with the sash with everything with the shaved heads still come to

00:25:12.140 mainstream effective altruist events oh wow oh so it's like they're known it's it's one of those

00:25:18.540 guys it's one of those guys they're known they're associated they're affiliated oh my goodness

00:25:25.220 gracious base camp in all of our community was explicitly blocked from all of these events uh

00:25:32.160 like manifest one year just went up and blocked us when we used to have some of because we know

00:25:36.540 because they did post talk surveys i think they said we had the most popular talk at the entire

00:25:41.460 event um really yeah uh people really like our talks because they're spicy and fun and get people

00:25:47.580 to think outside the box but that is not allowed at these events anymore um right i think we did

00:25:53.180 offend some people as well yes because i'm willing to say uh yeah and what's funny is this this group

00:25:59.440 has also like dead named trans people and stuff like that right um so they're really so they're

00:26:04.100 not like leftist per se they're just no they're true leftists right like what does that mean

00:26:10.160 they're they're what the leftist elite class actually wants for humanity and not what the

00:26:16.880 leftist rank and file realizes the leftist elite class wants for humanity um the leftist elite

00:26:22.060 clans may be more totalizing in terms of let's destroy the human race with you know crisper

00:26:27.540 viruses or subject everyone to an ai god that controls their every action but they are

00:26:34.660 significantly and everyone has to think like us everyone has to be a vegan everyone has to eat

00:26:39.540 bugs everyone has to you know what i mean right but you're not even allowed to eat bugs as a

00:26:44.240 vegan right so what are they you know uh yeah huh who knows what i just find so crazy is that

00:26:51.680 the scandal around this guy in the ea community is an obviously bogus sex scandal whereas people

00:26:58.080 aren't focusing on the fact that a guy is being given millions of dollars a year who has expressed

00:27:03.860 an interest in crispering a virus to eradicate all human life to work alone in a compound was 0.53

00:27:11.200 fanatical devotees following him and who also has the goal of engineering an ai to act as sort of a 0.97

00:27:18.640 fascistic overlord to all of human civilization when we know how he treats the people under him 0.96

00:27:24.400 and what he expects from them you know you'd be spending the rest of your life sitting there 1.00

00:27:28.480 chanting in a language you don't even speak but they they also see through the bullshit that's 0.99

00:27:34.360 obvious to the on the ground person like no educated leftist is still pro the whole trans 0.99

00:27:38.980 thing. Like everybody who's like actually looked at it is like, okay, this is stupid. I get that 1.00

00:27:43.420 it's stupid, but I know what we have to pretend. So that, you know, that's sort of the ground 0.99

00:27:48.460 they're on. And this is why I think it's useful to understand them because I think you can

00:27:51.140 understand the behind the scenes of the highest levels of the opposition to us. But I was saying,

00:27:56.580 I think, you know, we are both religious organizations that were founded in part to

00:28:01.300 deal with the way society is changing and everything about us is different in terms of

00:28:08.960 like every metric like we're attempting to preserve human life preserve long-term human flourishing

00:28:14.300 we're about protecting human diversity we're about continuing to evolve continuing to conquer other

00:28:19.840 planets and seed them with life that can uh you know re-diversify you don't need to protect

00:28:26.020 diversity on earth there's just one measly planet whatever let it go extinct you know we can do this

00:28:30.500 on other planets one day um and it is true if you seed life if you end humanity and the sun

00:28:37.980 continues to expand all life will eventually go extinct there is no chance that any other life

00:28:42.460 on earth is going to seed another planet if we seed a billion planets with life and that continues

00:28:46.800 to evolve and we then begin proactively seeding planets that we might want to go to in the future

00:28:50.700 which is what humanity will likely do uh the diversity of life that is downstream of a thriving

00:28:56.100 humanity is exponentially larger not exponentially it's like not even it's not even relevant like the

00:29:01.660 two numbers aren't relevant it's it's it's the difference between a you know an amoeba and all

00:29:06.920 life on earth in terms of its relevance that's what humanity means when contrasted with every

00:29:13.060 other species on earth combined right in terms of its its long-term potential but that's the way we

00:29:17.320 see that and it's also in the way we handle money right like we put together our fab uh we make

00:29:22.080 money by people wanting to pay for what we're offering but we are allergic to asking for money

00:29:26.820 yeah really really really really whereas they are aggressively extractive um we and our tradition

00:29:34.080 is downstream of christianity and judaism and we work a lot with these groups um uh to to understand

00:29:41.440 their theology you know we work a lot with orthodox jewish groups we work a lot with

00:29:44.360 conservative christian groups and we work a lot uh to protect conservative religious ideologies

00:29:49.180 uh whereas they have moved entirely in the buddhist direction entirely in that we need to

00:29:53.200 eradicate traditional western civilization but let's go over like what they were accused of

00:29:57.880 because i found this to be very interesting and again this is important for you to know

00:30:02.240 because these guys have power like people like these keep spinning out of these orgs well and

00:30:10.580 i think it's important also for people to know that there are actually really groups like the

00:30:15.900 ones described in like kingsman because isn't this like from the plot of that that with the

00:30:22.480 the main protagonist in the first kingsman movie made some kind of what like a cell phone that had

00:30:28.160 a frequency that would make people go crazy and kill each other or something but like this is

00:30:32.280 worse than that because his original idea and you don't know that he hasn't dropped that okay

00:30:40.040 We know that he publicly claimed to prefer an idea that was more palatable, apparently, to donors.

00:30:49.500 We don't know that he's not in his...

00:30:50.680 But we also know that he hides his ideas.

00:30:52.660 We know right now they have some internal teaching about how they relate to AI that isn't made public.

00:30:57.920 So we know that they hide their internal teaching.

00:30:59.900 And maybe they have, you know, they're out there in Vermont with CRISPR trying to engineer their let's end humanity system.

00:31:08.040 Yep.

00:31:08.220 so this the piece that we're going to be quoting here is i think the best of the pieces on this

00:31:12.660 because i've gone through a number of attack pieces on this like apparently they're drawing

00:31:16.080 a lot of similar criticism that makes me believe it um the high control dynamics at maple uh and

00:31:21.100 this was by kyle hubbard now what's interesting about kyle hubbard is um do you know what else

00:31:28.320 kyle hubbard did simone no what he was one of the donor recommended advisors who got this group the

00:31:36.060 funding for the survival and flourishing fund which i think shows that survival and flourishing

00:31:41.960 is not bad people right like they made a mistake and even people involved in that mistake are

00:31:48.300 drawing attention to the group that they ended up funding but this org still has its fingers in a

00:31:55.140 lot of things and that's important to note right like when we were talking about it on our group

00:31:58.820 call one of our friends who is very influential in the ea singulitarian whatever you know tech

00:32:04.820 she's like oh i know who you're talking about when i just mentioned that the crazy cult and

00:32:09.520 she's like oh i i know them that want to destroy humanity i'm familiar with their agenda oh that

00:32:14.360 one that one okay so he says maple has world scale goals maple's stated goals include founding the

00:32:22.240 next world religion leading a world government with teeth its own military operating 500 centers

00:32:29.260 worldwide and building an artificial super intelligence that will turn the world into a 0.72

00:32:33.800 monastery with residents equipped would essentially mean turning sawyer's mind into an ai god sawyer

00:32:40.600 has said that he entered a mandahi deep enough to make psychic contact with the mind of global ai

00:32:47.640 what they call the cyber gore oh or the cyber gore that's who you talked to in the way that

00:32:53.260 spiritual masters read the minds of other people read the minds of other people well you know this

00:33:00.580 is buddhist nonsense whatever that's no it isn't no that's not buddhist that doesn't have that's

00:33:05.540 not a buddhist thing you don't hold on wait no you are constantly brainwashed about how

00:33:12.820 malevolent buddhism is you don't think there's no mind reading in buddhism hold on let's look

00:33:17.960 this up is is this a regular buddhist thing yeah is there mind reading in buddhism i have extreme

00:33:25.360 doubts yes it is a completely normal and foundational concept of traditional buddhism

00:33:29.700 um what yes uh so in buddhism sandami means uh absorption or unification of the mind

00:33:38.740 uh it comes from uh the roots of bringing together at a place formally it describes a state

00:33:44.220 where scatter stops up dancing around and attention rests steadily on a single object

00:33:48.600 and it can be used to read minds.

00:33:52.220 Note to add even more color here.

00:33:56.140 If you go to main texts,

00:33:58.640 like in the Pali Canon, the Theravita,

00:34:01.200 and later commentarial works,

00:34:03.100 one of six higher knowledges adorates something,

00:34:05.840 knowing the minds of others.

00:34:07.840 A monk who has developed deep concentration,

00:34:09.940 especially the fourth jihad,

00:34:11.740 is said to be able to know whether another's mind

00:34:13.860 is lustful or not, hateful or not,

00:34:15.780 concentrated or scattered,

00:34:16.860 liberated or not and so on the buddha and his disciples such as moggalahana and aradana are

00:34:22.480 portrayed as using this similar lists appear in mahayana sources so it's not like a uh

00:34:28.580 a secondary thing or something like that this is this is like core buddhist belief yes

00:34:36.540 simone you need to like stop believing that buddhists are like a cute little whatever

00:34:42.720 things they're not they're i i keep having to like bust i remember when i was talking to her

00:34:48.580 early about buddhism she goes buddhists are are anti-idolatry and i was like what are you talking

00:34:54.000 about they have like giant statues all over the place in every temple she's like i don't remember

00:34:58.520 it and i was like google the temple you went to as a kid because she was schooled in buddhism as a

00:35:02.320 young kid and the statues were everywhere and she's like i guess i just blanked them out um

00:35:08.260 I know. Even in Ibarakiken, where I grew up, there's a giant Buddha. And when I mean giant, like, it's certainly bigger than the Statue of Liberty. I've kind of-

00:35:21.320 And you thought they didn't have idolatry.

00:35:23.720 i know i know i was look i just i'm having a dark time now because i'm actually starting to just

00:35:33.440 allow myself to understand just how crappy humanity is and i don't like that it's not

00:35:42.020 fun it's not enjoyable many groups of humans now mommy buddy you have to wait until we're finished

00:35:49.900 he's trying to use mudpuppy.ai our new platform for kids and he's really excited about it i will

00:35:57.640 get you buddy i promise i will get you set up but i need to finish this first and so does daddy

00:36:01.560 where's where's eric oh he left actually i got to use like a fake gun and it was really it was a

00:36:09.340 pellet gun yeah a pellet gun it's not a fake gun it's a real gun that can really hurt someone you

00:36:15.080 know you can't shoot someone where's the pellet where's our pellet gun by the way

00:36:20.020 oh you mean airsoft oh you got an airsoft gun oh yeah you have it and where you well anyway it's

00:36:29.340 secured presumably oh um is it the one that you have near you like when it work oh my god i should

00:36:38.620 make sure the airsoft gun is significantly more secure now that i uh yes i am using the broken

00:36:43.960 computer that text broke it is my computer now i just have a broken baby broke my wife's computer

00:36:49.620 and it's got like a big slash through the screen right now he threw he was playing with the spoon

00:36:53.980 and he just threw it at the screen like it was some sort of javelin but i appreciate his

00:37:00.620 athleticism and um now i just have a broken screen bye-bye festive line so sorry has stated

00:37:09.840 a strong willingness to i need to move i'm only gonna move if you give me can you hurt him simone 0.65

00:37:19.080 shall i throw the book at you

00:37:23.360 actually you know why torson has that cut on his face why titan threw a book at him was he being a 0.99

00:37:34.560 jerk um he was hitting worth a pool noodle so i would say that this was disproportionate um 0.96

00:37:41.160 that's tell him no mudpuppy.ai if he okay fine i'm going to cancel mudpuppy.ai for you if you

00:37:46.740 don't leave right okay but you have to pay the money give me tokens stated a strong willingness

00:37:52.400 to let residents come to harm in the service of maple's mission he stated explicitly the severity

00:37:57.620 of trauma to students that he would tolerate permanently unable to participate in the economy

00:38:02.380 for the rest of their lives he has asked a room full of us to settle what portion of students

00:38:08.660 becoming traumatized through training would be acceptable is it 20 50 100 and i'd really

00:38:16.340 contrast this with our org and the techno puritan project where you can see that everything that we

00:38:22.240 do is about attempting to improve the lives of other people and move them towards a place where

00:38:28.300 they're mentally healthier and better able to act on the world in a positive way. Whereas with this

00:38:34.380 organization, he doesn't care about significantly damaging the life of somebody who put their faith

00:38:39.940 in him. And that one of the ways that he defines pain that he's willing to cause is they're no

00:38:46.180 longer able to contribute to the economy, e.g. produce things that other people want to make

00:38:51.200 the world a better place, just like a wrecking ball through the life of people who have put

00:38:56.080 their faith in him what is traumatizing them what is happening have people go over the training it

00:39:01.940 would traumatize anyone oh my gosh okay so is it worse than like training to be a moderator on

00:39:08.760 youtube there was an instance in which he was giving a lecture because people have to go to

00:39:12.780 his lectures every day which if you have watched them i will play one from youtube here you want

00:39:17.860 to smack this person it's like the slow like dinging a gong a couple times really slowly

00:39:22.700 and then waiting like five minutes to start talking

00:39:26.140 and then talking in that low, like,

00:39:28.000 very much the antithesis of whatever

00:39:33.440 techno-Puritanism stands for.

00:39:35.380 Yeah, man.

00:39:52.700 so i'm not gonna make you listen until he starts talking because he keeps hitting this

00:39:58.280 freaking bell thing um but this is what it sounds like when he does start talking

00:40:03.260 as you

00:40:06.560 sit

00:40:09.220 make use of this opportunity to relinquish thinking

00:40:20.580 to let go

00:40:26.740 of whatever thoughts

00:40:30.200 our minds produce.

00:40:41.040 He just like aggressively hates your time.

00:40:44.900 He has aggressive disrespect for you

00:40:48.620 if you have like a job or things to do to try to make the world a better place

00:40:53.620 he hates you specifically and wants to burn as much of your life as possible

00:40:58.480 i i wanted to put more of this but i just didn't want to force you guys to sit through it because

00:41:03.780 there is few things that i personally at least find more painful than having to listen to somebody

00:41:08.400 like this and i'm going to include this with our like religious stuff but not our tracks because i

00:41:14.720 do think that this is important to understand like what we never want to become this sort of

00:41:18.260 performative i'm so high status i'm so cool look at me um because it's it represents everything i

00:41:24.480 think wrong with the elite society that's destroying the world right now it's just so

00:41:29.520 not the buddhism i grew up with either it is real buddhism no real buddhism is hitting a 1.00

00:41:35.400 bell and sitting with your legs crossed in your stupid sash and thinking you're better than 0.99

00:41:39.260 everyone well that's yeah so anyway i didn't do that people began to drift off right or one guy 0.99

00:41:46.020 began to because they don't let people sleep much at night sure and this is a classic like

00:41:50.620 if you're in a strict zen monastery they like they beat you with the stick if you fall asleep

00:41:55.760 so the guy began to drift off and then he made everybody else stare at him for the next 90

00:42:00.580 minutes just stare at his face being oh like to like laser eye him back awake or something

00:42:08.060 no stare at him the teacher they had to pay attention to just him sitting there doing his

00:42:14.860 buddhist thing for the next 90 minutes to learn attention again or something but to look at him

00:42:21.940 that's just that's just great wow i can't no and note the org has not pushed back on this stuff

00:42:30.900 they they released a thing fighting back against this okay and they said no one has undergone

00:42:35.940 physical harm at one of our retreats well yeah they're not beating him i would prefer a beating

00:42:40.640 i would prefer to be i'd prefer beating too yeah it wakes you up i mean snap you're awake it's good

00:42:45.920 the you know sometimes it's just hard to stay awake when you're meditating i get it but i think

00:42:49.720 the way that they responded is for me affirming that these accusations are true because if the

00:42:54.940 accusations are not true they would have addressed the specific accusations they wouldn't have said

00:42:59.640 well we never beat anyone and that was never one of the accusations in the first place guys

00:43:04.180 you're traumatizing people we've never no one has been physically touched oh my goodness gracious

00:43:11.020 um well and they do like cut you off from your friend groups and family when you go and people

00:43:15.740 say there's been like months unless you can make money from them apparently oh yes uh so i'm

00:43:21.160 continuing here when he's talking about the how many people can they traumatize 20 50 100

00:43:25.300 discussing how maple would deal with societal collapse he said if half the maple community

00:43:30.880 starts running around like chickens with their heads cut off and die within the first week,

00:43:34.760 just let that process play out. Well, I appreciate that they only want the most

00:43:42.040 resilient to become leaders in their community, I guess. And he goes on to say here, indeed,

00:43:48.620 many have left, including me, with severe psychological problems that were not present

00:43:52.880 beforehand. I am personally in contact with over a dozen people who have had a year of mental health

00:43:57.260 issues afterwards who are who are still going to therapy and seeking spiritual guidance primarily

00:44:01.720 for issues relating to soryu and maple beyond those i am in contact with personally i am aware

00:44:07.520 of dozens more which i have also found through researching it a very very common that people

00:44:11.400 feel this way afterwards do they describe the sorts of things that they suffered from like

00:44:15.460 following the the at least significant shift in composition of leverage another socially based

00:44:22.860 and these guys were founded by people associated with leverage okay well yeah and i think what they

00:44:27.000 they temporarily rented space from leverage or whatever until they went to

00:44:31.300 some other location. So they were physically proximate,

00:44:34.140 but I believe that with leverage there were,

00:44:38.040 there were consistent things that people, you know,

00:44:39.780 claimed having to deal with afterwards, you know,

00:44:42.180 they need to see therapy, but it was due to like very specific stuff is,

00:44:45.920 are people being specific here about what they're suffering from or is it just

00:44:50.380 very vague? Like now I see therapist, now I see a physical.

00:44:53.760 Well, if you listen to what happens at the thing,

00:44:55.780 it would be very clear that like bad things would happen to you what's interesting is that the the

00:45:01.180 things that they complain about was very like if you understand psychology and the way cults operate

00:45:06.720 and like what's actually like bad behavior and what it's clear that the effective altruist mind

00:45:13.880 and the leftist mind doesn't have the language or the alarms to know when something is dangerous

00:45:21.820 versus when something is just a normal part

00:45:24.360 of an organization or a religion.

00:45:26.240 So I'll provide an example here. 0.99

00:45:28.660 You know that part about wanting to wipe out

00:45:30.220 all of humanity was an engineered disease?

00:45:32.440 That was like an afterthought in this piece.

00:45:35.260 You want to know the first complaint he has about them?

00:45:39.360 They made them do hard things?

00:45:41.040 Rest with Soryu, who has unironically told the community,

00:45:44.260 this is a dictatorship and I am the dictator.

00:45:48.300 So they don't like that there's hierarchy.

00:45:50.580 There's hierarchy.

00:45:51.820 That was more concerning to them

00:45:53.700 than the wanting to eradicate humanity thing.

00:45:55.980 Oh, no.

00:45:57.200 Oh, no.

00:45:58.060 No, this is what I mean.

00:45:59.160 They literally have, like, colored glasses

00:46:02.080 that they can't see the dangerous stuff the org is doing.

00:46:04.840 Or the locking people alone for months on end

00:46:07.860 was their only contact being this one guy

00:46:10.020 who berates him every time he sees him, apparently.

00:46:13.820 That is considered an afterthought.

00:46:15.400 You want to know what the next thing they complained about was?

00:46:18.780 This one actually is a problem,

00:46:20.320 but they thought this was less important than the first one nearly every hour of your day is

00:46:25.080 scheduled or monitored producing chronic sleep deprivation overwork and exhaustion guilt why do 0.98

00:46:29.640 they all do this it was also the zizzians that had the biphasic sleep problem that made them 1.00

00:46:34.580 because this is normal for cults if you get people to not sleep a lot they become a lot less credulous 0.99

00:46:38.900 when you're uh telling them to believe whatever you tell them to fair enough i've been there

00:46:43.580 uh this sudden rage directed at ordinary frailties uh for example the breaking of an

00:46:50.000 inexpensive item lying down during the talk being sick with covid or needing rest when one student's

00:46:55.540 head began to nod during the talk and this is when he made everyone in the room stare at him

00:46:59.500 right oh boy um uh and then but that's that again is like harsh but it's not as severe as some of

00:47:05.560 the stuff we're going to get to although i will say the constant monitoring is insane you should

00:47:08.640 not be in an organization that's doing that he called it benevolent monitoring and basically

00:47:13.060 wherever you are in your room anywhere you are constantly being monitored on camera how like

00:47:19.140 it appears camera and audio okay um residents are pressured this is another thing we're like

00:47:27.540 this came before the actual damaging stuff right um residents are pressured into major life

00:47:33.580 decisions so you're pressured breakups with outside partners a totally okay thing to do if

00:47:37.740 they're like actually toxic um instructed couples to have children a totally okay thing to do if

00:47:43.040 you're in a religion um a preacher saying you should start thinking about having kids which

00:47:47.940 it sounds like was basically what he said is a totally fine thing to do they don't have the

00:47:53.540 warning bells for what's actually dangerous i'm also confused as to why despite at least at one

00:48:00.820 point wanting to kill everyone he would encourage people to have kids what's going on there because

00:48:06.800 now he's trying to spiritually kill everyone remember what he says his goal is it's to take 0.73

00:48:11.940 control of global AI and use that to subject the world to what it's like to live in his monastery

00:48:18.420 constant monitoring berating if you're ever not worshiping the dear leader etc etc it is an

00:48:24.480 organization dedicated around a hierarchy of elite individuals presumably like if they ever had the

00:48:29.180 entire world it would be like the higher EA ops and everything like that controlling everything

00:48:32.480 I mean Miri has basically said they want to do the same thing as well they're like

00:48:35.880 well we want to prevent people from developing AI so what we're going to do is we need some

00:48:40.400 government agency that works across all governments and monitors everyone everywhere

00:48:44.040 to make sure nobody's working on ai and implements our morality along the way

00:48:48.480 okay great um and pressuring people into like long commitments to maple

00:48:56.520 this is the attitude we need here once you begin your training you either achieve your aim or you

00:49:01.420 die he said which again i don't think that stuff is very bad like this is the thing the things that

00:49:07.840 he highlights as the biggest things and we'll get to where i do actually think things are terrifying

00:49:12.200 okay are things that are just anti-progressive and like hierarchy oh

00:49:19.980 uh right having children yeah um okay uh residents are asked to publish approved

00:49:30.020 residential accounts of soroyah in scheduled writing sessions so they constantly write about

00:49:33.840 like what is good and they have this maple tail thing i read it uh that's where we were able to

00:49:38.180 get multiple accounts of people saying i thought that a lot of people left recently and then i

00:49:43.360 talked to the leadership and they said they hadn't this was from their own i think approved

00:49:47.020 writings the dear diary and then we can contrast this was what actually happened and see even in

00:49:52.560 the approved organizational writing people are basically showing their brainwashing and that's

00:49:57.200 an actual concerning thing yeah um some residents voluntarily attended solitary retreats that run

00:50:05.400 one to three months during which the only human contact is sorio who was in that isolation often

00:50:12.160 applies extreme pressure and guilt now this he he puts off like a one-off oh whatever two to three

00:50:20.780 months with an abusive founder who monitors you all the time and other people could hear people

00:50:25.520 on these wailing and screaming and other things like that um that's the actual concerning cult

00:50:33.580 like thing i think some people just want to feel alive and maybe you kind of do when you're in a

00:50:38.440 horror scenario well i mean that's how you brainwash somebody you don't give them any sleep

00:50:44.080 on this this retreat they're supposed to be spending 10 hours a day in meditative poses

00:50:49.860 you know like with the weird sitting thing

00:50:53.180 isn't that

00:50:53.740 isn't that enhanced interrogation

00:50:57.220 technique I mean

00:50:59.340 yeah I would consider what

00:51:01.100 these people are being put through they're not allowed to see

00:51:03.020 who gives them food they're given like their vegan

00:51:04.940 gruel once a day or a few

00:51:07.000 times a day without the person seeing them

00:51:09.020 and the only person they interact with which is

00:51:11.020 from one to ten minutes and it's just to critique

00:51:12.780 their meditative form

00:51:15.040 is the leader of the movement

00:51:17.000 hmm hmm yeah that's i mean it just to me it sounds like a

00:51:26.440 and then just your typical cult what what disturbs me about it is the um you know the

00:51:32.000 genocide of humanity element of it well that he says isn't his goal anymore i mean it's a

00:51:38.220 spiritual genocide of humanity now but dude he says he says he says the problem is is he's never

00:51:45.940 publicly recounted

00:51:48.180 his previous

00:51:49.780 views. And that's the thing

00:51:52.280 that gets me. Yeah, recanted.

00:51:54.240 He's never said, like enough people

00:51:56.100 have, through third

00:51:58.160 party said that these were his views at one point

00:52:00.080 and he has told multiple people this, that even

00:52:02.100 his defenders are saying that this was his views.

00:52:04.880 That he's never

00:52:05.860 come to terms with why

00:52:08.180 he changed his mind on this.

00:52:11.960 And that scares me.

00:52:14.660 Because 0.99

00:52:15.180 that's exactly the type of thing a buddhist would want to do especially one who has these extremist 1.00

00:52:22.980 beliefs about humanity and animals and wanting to even still free the planet from the scourge 0.74

00:52:28.760 which is humanity sorry he's really excited about about uh hashpapi.ai yeah hashpapi.ai yeah look i'm

00:52:36.080 glad i'm glad you built he got to play it a little bit on my account and he had a lot of fun with it

00:52:40.100 because it allows you kids to make images and videos.

00:52:43.220 And we're adding that should be live

00:52:45.380 by the time this episode goes live coding.

00:52:48.080 So I'm trying to make it because if you use the RFAB API,

00:52:51.260 then you're using like the Fable API or the OpenAI API,

00:52:54.340 which is a lot more expensive

00:52:55.360 than using your own OpenAI or Cloud accounts,

00:52:57.860 which for a lot of people, I don't want to do that.

00:53:00.200 I don't want to be like financially exploiting people.

00:53:02.260 So the way around this is the coding AI session

00:53:08.340 on the site connects to your and you set this up on your kid's account open ai account or your fable

00:53:17.160 account and it essentially turns the vibe coding interface of fable or open ai into an audio plus

00:53:28.020 simple visual things that the kid can click on or interact with uh to audio interface

00:53:34.580 so basically just transforms these other apis into apis that kids can interact with more fluidly

00:53:40.540 anyway which i think is really cool that's what i want for him i figure other parents probably

00:53:46.780 want that as well well yeah because also you're not just going to pay for those tokens you're

00:53:50.860 not going to do that but if they can piggyback on your thing it's kind of like the new the new

00:53:55.440 version of adding a kid to your family plan your phone family plan which is it's nice yeah

00:54:00.600 okay next uh storia has stated that one of the main purposes of maple is to extricate the evil

00:54:08.520 ideology that the residents enter the community with and replace them with trustworthy ideology

00:54:12.240 so he stated that teachers other than himself that resident study must be both asian and ordained

00:54:17.960 excluding the entire western world the race supremacy of this is very interesting i we

00:54:24.340 haven't really explored that yeah the it's a very ethno-supremacist organization yeah i i

00:54:30.460 understand did you did you see anything about his reasoning like the reason why they have to be

00:54:38.080 asian east asian will okay so think of it from his perspective god a little bit sorry i'm just

00:54:45.460 reading random bits here ptsd including panic attacks inability to be close to others feeling

00:54:50.400 permanently defiled or ruined and also with this list of post cult after effects categorized by

00:54:56.540 researcher margaret singer including major depressive excessive guilt difficulty holding

00:55:00.460 a job and concentration or memory loss their alumni who heard sorio's judgmental voice in

00:55:05.100 their head for months or years had recurring maple related nightmares and who were afraid

00:55:10.080 even in safe and private context to voice a concern about maple except in maple's own language

00:55:14.660 and framing wow that's pretty wild yeah that's effective clearly what he did was effective at

00:55:23.800 demoralizing and controlling people so yeah so uh well not that effective because they are sort of

00:55:28.840 collapsing at this point oh which is bad because it means their members are getting into other

00:55:32.540 organizations so one of our friends was close to it said they only have 15 full-time members left

00:55:36.560 anymore oh and they used to have over 30 um and and you know the campus and everything like that

00:55:42.140 right um god and they just burned through money when i was looking at like their expenses and

00:55:47.340 stuff like that compared to us man i love the techno puritans cheap make money give it out to

00:55:52.580 members uh very opposite with the two in this org um but uh sorry speaking speaking of um maple

00:56:01.420 um you're talking about oh yes you were saying why the essence of supremacy is like okay so

00:56:07.740 suppose you're him right and you've gone and you've spent years studying under all of these

00:56:12.580 quote-unquote eastern leaders which your dad did remember your dad went out and became uh

00:56:16.940 no he studied aikido under one particular yeah well this guy basically did the same

00:56:24.840 goes to japan i think japan and studied under some master and then he worked his way up to

00:56:30.880 like the head or one of the head priests at some major buddhist temple then he comes back and he

00:56:36.680 infuses that with his uh you know grandiose sort of narcissistic view of like everyone has to

00:56:42.680 listen to me i'm the one in control everything like this right um and we need to eradicate all

00:56:46.240 what which which does work with buddhist ideology as we pointed out before it is a negative

00:56:49.540 utilitarian religion there's just no way around this simone i remember the first time i encountered

00:56:53.900 you with this and you were like no i grew up a buddhist no it's not and there was like actually

00:56:57.680 think about it and then like some day later after she got a big argument with me about this

00:57:02.040 she just said it to somebody else she's like well don't you know and i was like wait but you acted

00:57:06.300 like i lost that argument like my argument about the id you never admit when i convince you and so

00:57:11.200 now i'm stuck because i convinced you not to sign up as an organ donor oh god you didn't tell me i

00:57:17.520 had convinced you you just stood there angrily you know like so then i feel bad and i sign up and now

00:57:24.500 how are you gonna did you get me off the list simone we still have to go to the library and

00:57:28.840 get the form notarized just as an update on this it is it is pretty insidious when you want to get

00:57:34.380 off the donor registry in many states it's really not easy to do so in pennsylvania i saw that

00:57:40.280 malcolm's license which has the donor uh heart on it right now was going to expire fairly soon

00:57:47.420 so i'm like oh okay well instead of paying 45 now to have it changed just to remove the donor thing

00:57:53.140 we'll just wait for his renewal and then we'll just change that detail with renewal well it

00:57:57.620 turns out you can't change that detail with renewal you have to pay an extra 45 and get a

00:58:03.920 separate notarized form to to actually submit the change and so they really do make it difficult

00:58:11.800 for you to try to escape this this ultimate outcome um and i i'm not recanting any of my

00:58:20.420 conspiracy theories at this point i i have not yet seen anything to suggest that what i said in

00:58:24.340 that episode was wrong even though there are people who've written in and been like well well

00:58:27.800 well look i know that mostly when people are declared bank brain dead um that they're going

00:58:34.180 to die but they don't seem to care about whether they're mostly right or always right and they seem

00:58:39.260 to cover up the instance yeah my problem is yeah when people are over enthusiastically diagnosing

00:58:44.200 it or not even diagnosing it and still putting the people in the pipeline and my other issue with it

00:58:49.020 is that they're not giving anesthesia like proper anesthesia to the people who are having their

00:58:54.980 organs extract. No, they're just, they just paralyze you. They don't just getting paralytics.

00:58:58.360 Although I also learned, and this made me cry for like five hours that until like through the eighties

00:59:03.960 newborns were not being given pain medications when they were being operated on like getting,

00:59:10.440 you know, heart surgery, they were just also given paralytics. So humans are just the worst

00:59:16.200 ever. And we're just like, I don't know. It's a baby. What could it possibly feel? I don't know. 0.94

00:59:21.880 they're brain dead what could they possibly feel their body's convulsing actually simone the baby

00:59:27.300 thing i i'm gonna disagree with you on this one i actually think that they were probably right to do

00:59:31.440 that so let me explain because you think they're gonna kill them with the pain meds uh pain meds

00:59:37.720 of all of the types of meds that you can give somebody um are one of the most dangerous to get

00:59:44.040 exactly right and in an infant the percent off you need to be especially if you're dealing with

00:59:50.440 technology of the 1960s or the the 1950s or the 1940s um now you're like Malcolm I get that like

01:00:00.300 for a very long time even with the original surgeries they thought that pain meds were

01:00:03.860 even when they had them were bad that you needed the yeah you're saying until the 1980s you likely

01:00:09.980 if you're talking about like when could they safely do this with babies reliably at a normal

01:00:16.340 hospital probably the technology didn't exist until 1975 and so there was like five years when

01:00:22.800 when like i understand your feeling on this babies you're you're unfamiliar with how dangerous this

01:00:29.940 stuff is around babies i get it i i don't i don't want babies to hurt i want babies to ever be in

01:00:34.660 pain look every every time i see that little hole in texas chest from his whole experience

01:00:40.740 as a newborn yeah but he's tough now

01:00:44.140 yes broke your computer by throwing a spoon at it yeah thanks dex but the uh the the let's talk

01:00:53.520 about so he goes and he gets he becomes this guru right yeah comes back to the united states

01:00:58.180 sort of combines it with effective altruism and creates this very extractive uh you know

01:01:04.520 high demand religious organization um and he doesn't want people to leave the organization

01:01:09.160 right because he wants to maintain power because i think he genuinely believes in his vision

01:01:12.740 um i mean i think it's delusional and he doesn't have people well i think he's in his vision but

01:01:16.800 has a lot of proclivities around also self-aggrandizement right uh because he hasn't

01:01:22.160 built it in a way and he hasn't structured it in a way where people can disagree with him

01:01:25.560 whereas if you contrast that with techno puritanism our literal last tract was just me going over an

01:01:32.040 argument of somebody presenting a completely alternate metaphysical structure and me saying

01:01:37.040 that's a pretty good argument you know like yeah because it was yeah i was like that's that's i

01:01:43.900 don't agree with it but i think it's plausible and aligns with the data that we have access to

01:01:48.060 because we are not like him like we operate and you could never say something like that in his

01:01:53.100 work you would never have him going up there and being like somebody presented me with an idea that

01:01:57.240 goes against everything that we say and i think it's plausible and a good thing i don't think his

01:02:02.000 His idea went against everything he said. But also, I think the problem with this particular religious leader is that if something wasn't his idea or the idea of some distant East Asian person, it's not legitimate.

01:02:17.020 being is by reducing the number of people that you can seriously look for alternate ideas or

01:02:24.080 ideologies from to East Asian and ordained people within the Buddhist tradition, you're just not

01:02:32.220 going to find a lot of people who can disagree with him or present you with new ideas. Because

01:02:36.280 a lot of, like for your average Western reader, one, a lot of that's just not going to be that

01:02:40.260 interesting to read. And two, it's not going to present you with ideas that are going to be

01:02:45.020 outside of his fold he basically has limited the set of things you can read to things that could

01:02:52.080 never challenge his authority or only challenge it in in marginal ways that you as a westerner

01:02:59.560 wouldn't fully grok but once you understand that these ideologies are negative utilitarian in

01:03:05.200 nature which buddhism is um eg life is suffering that's like the core thing in buddhism life is

01:03:11.580 suffering and suffering that's negative utilitarianism um uh he um his more extreme

01:03:18.460 beliefs are going to flow from a lot of these ideas because they do flow from these ideas

01:03:22.140 right the thing is is in the same way that like techno puritanism is actually

01:03:26.580 when i ask ai because i'll go to fable i'll be like what's the trick how does malcolm keep

01:03:31.100 getting the bible to agree with him and it's like the trick that he's using to make techno

01:03:34.800 puritanism work is he's very familiar with the biblical scholarship of this period and so he's 0.76

01:03:41.560 familiar with what the scholarly consensus of is of what people believed, Jews of this

01:03:47.520 period believed, what early Christians believed, and he just states this stuff so it sounds

01:03:52.140 miraculous and then people go and look at it and they're like, oh, why does the Bible

01:03:55.740 agree with all of these weird things?

01:03:59.040 The trick is basically I'm telling the truth. 0.90

01:04:02.360 I'm actually just arguing from what early Christians and Jews actually believed and

01:04:07.120 a lot of modern Christians and Jews are unaware of how different, you know, Judaism at the time

01:04:13.640 of Jesus, Christianity at the time of Jesus likely was from modern Christianity. And no,

01:04:18.260 this isn't an attack on their beliefs. Modern Christians are aware that like Abraham had

01:04:24.120 different beliefs about religion than a modern Jew has. They don't have any problem with that, 0.99

01:04:30.520 or Moses had different beliefs than a modern Jew has. They just, there's this sort of like 0.99

01:04:36.760 haze that leads them to believe well and that means that people living at the time of jesus

01:04:41.660 would have had the exact same beliefs that they have even though uh beliefs during that time

01:04:47.060 were as radically different as beliefs during the time of abraham or moses and i simply focus

01:04:52.840 on those beliefs so i'm able to take that and then um synthesize it with a technological

01:05:01.120 perspective right which is how the techno puritan beliefs are able to pull the trick off where they

01:05:07.100 sound very heretical from the perspective of modern christianity but a line was the actual

01:05:11.540 text of the bible much closer than modern christian interpretations um and and it synthesizes

01:05:17.520 remarkably well i'd say miraculously well but like that's the that's the trick uh his trick

01:05:23.000 is his negative utilitarian humanity must be subjugated humanity must be controlled and if i

01:05:30.060 can't it must be eradicated mindset actually aligned if you go to the early buddhist thinkers

01:05:36.320 with what they thought and a lot of modern western buddhists are unaware of that and so he's actually

01:05:42.240 pulling something not dissimilar for me what you could say that i'm pulling and that's why he says

01:05:46.860 you have to follow the asian ordained ministers right because you the westerners would be unaware

01:05:51.520 that this is what buddhism actually is about but if you're like deep into it you're like oh this is

01:05:55.420 what they're actually about the negative utilitarianism ending the cycle ending suffering

01:05:58.180 um and and so interestingly our two ideologies if you talk about like an anti-spiral tradition

01:06:04.480 and a spiral tradition you look at the other tracks uh that's what you're seeing here right

01:06:09.680 like i i think you're seeing the personification of two branches which are doing something kind

01:06:16.400 of similar which is going back to what these traditions actually taught even if your average

01:06:23.840 western buddhism thinks buddhism is all about love and hugs and cuddles and everything's nice

01:06:28.660 and puppy dogs and your average western christian thinks that everything is about love and cuddles

01:06:34.060 and jesus is about being you know i saw a christian teacher recently that was about like a lot of

01:06:39.000 people think that like because they've been told even from the church that jesus was like maximally

01:06:43.140 nice that that's what good meant in terms of jesus niceness and so they think that being

01:06:47.720 good as a christian is about being the the nicest and if they and if they're they're basing themselves

01:06:53.340 off of niceness, then they can beat God and Jesus. And they can be like, look, I'm nicer than God is,

01:06:58.260 right? Jesus is pretty nice, but not always. I mean, he did call people out, right? They'd be

01:07:02.780 like, oh, I don't even call people out, you know? And I think that in that way, this organization

01:07:14.820 represents, you know, I often talk about how, like, I think the Aztec religion is a mirror of 0.97

01:07:20.480 christianity that can be used to highlight a truth of it it's it's a purely opposite religion 0.99

01:07:27.100 a purely evil religion um if you look at uh you know we talk about the um shabbatai levy right 0.68

01:07:36.060 and we're like he the antichrist like a perfect inversion of christ's life see our episodes on

01:07:40.840 that if you look at this organization i think it's a perfect inversion of the techno puritan

01:07:45.920 organization in the way it handles funds in the way it handles members in the way it handles

01:07:50.100 growth you know like extracting money for members instead of giving money to members right like um

01:07:55.340 uh focusing everything on this sort of narcissistic i am the god of this everyone listen to me we're

01:08:02.540 gonna make everybody follow me instead of focusing on the diversity of humanity and thought and even

01:08:07.380 within the organization having a very loose structure i'm focusing on the family because

01:08:11.060 that's the way you actually help people move up work you know a lot of our episodes were like you

01:08:15.060 need to learn to vibe code you need to learn to do the next thing you need to learn to so that you

01:08:17.820 can stay employed and he's like i don't care if you're permanently unemployed for the rest of your

01:08:20.680 life um this this lack of concern about the psychological damage he does to people you know

01:08:26.980 me being like hey go out there you know research come up with other ideas bring them to me so that

01:08:32.580 they can change my my mind because i want to know when i'm wrong i don't want you guys to be in a

01:08:36.840 cage because if you're not in a cage then you're not going to be bringing me ideas like the angel

01:08:40.500 idea which i thought was pretty cool uh and uh yeah thoughts simone it is odd to me that he

01:08:47.340 wouldn't he wouldn't be so concerned about the outcomes of people leaving it's well they've been

01:08:55.780 able to get people into major ai orgs you know they've been able to get people into major

01:08:59.820 effective altruist organizations right like they they have infiltrated a lot that's really

01:09:06.560 disturbing so maybe they aren't leaving because they're bouncing out you think but they're leaving

01:09:10.200 because they're being assigned to things.

01:09:14.420 Some, some.

01:09:15.680 I mean, less now, I think it's beginning to shatter.

01:09:19.020 His control is beginning to shatter,

01:09:20.700 but that's why we're learning about it.

01:09:22.440 When Ayla posted about this five years ago,

01:09:24.120 if you read her post, she hedges everything.

01:09:26.860 You would have no idea how bad the org is

01:09:28.940 because it's clear that she is terrified

01:09:31.140 to speak against them.

01:09:32.420 Wow.

01:09:33.080 When they still had power,

01:09:34.240 and who knows how many orgs like this are still in power

01:09:36.280 when you look at what a lot of these organizations

01:09:39.180 are donating to.

01:09:40.200 And I think we collectively need to remember that your average Karen whaling on the street, your average GDC progressive who screams at the sky in – what was that park where we met?

01:09:54.980 Oh, Yerba Buena Gardens.

01:09:57.200 Yeah, where we all did it.

01:09:58.460 They all screamed at the sky in Yerba Buena Gardens.

01:10:00.460 We look at these mentally broken people, and we can think maybe this runs all the way to the top.

01:10:06.160 because in the celebrities it does you look at the hollywood celebrities and these are

01:10:09.400 deeply broken people um we might do an episode on that in the near future just like how

01:10:14.020 psychologically destroyed hollywood has become and what we don't keep in mind is as as as cold

01:10:21.740 and ruthless as strategizing as people like you and me can be seen as people who influence like

01:10:25.920 the intellectual right sphere you know obviously like when we were going to speak at the white

01:10:31.380 house the challenge for them booking us was so many people we had so many fans at the white house

01:10:37.080 that they all wanted to make sure they were there and so whenever there was a conflict they had to

01:10:40.620 rebook us because there were like a number of people who wanted to like we do the same thing

01:10:45.140 we influence the intellectuality of like this new right-wing ideology disproportionately and groups

01:10:50.860 like him may seem small you may go to his channel and see you know 150 views on a video or something

01:10:55.600 like that but the influence that they are able to have uh within the progressive elite circles

01:11:02.600 is outsized in the same way that our influence is outsized in the conservative elite circles

01:11:06.540 and if you project the broken hollywood elite into these individuals you can miss how cold

01:11:16.700 calculating and disciplined their puppet masters can be

01:11:22.640 um and and and willing to eradicate humanity willing to pull that trigger right um and i i

01:11:34.700 want us to all you know be aware of that and and you guys don't need to harass these guys the only

01:11:39.300 reason we know about them is because they lost their power like it broke it's falling apart for

01:11:42.520 them now but that means there's somebody else in the shadows now that means this is the way it

01:11:47.500 always is it's always and then maybe we should ask ayla who's the next yeah she might know she

01:11:54.140 might be yeah it's it's hard to say i mean they're always closest to the next group is miri that i'm

01:11:59.440 aware of that's still operational we don't know what new ones are out though because we've been

01:12:05.420 kind of frozen out for a while so i couldn't say and i would i would say that underrated is the

01:12:11.480 extent to which this has been happening in the san francisco bay area since at least the 60s so

01:12:18.960 what's scary about now and what's different about now is in the 60s these groups would go off and

01:12:25.820 have their primal screams and bring spirits back from the dead or whatever it is that they did

01:12:32.040 in their isolated weird places and they would not affect anyone else but now we have groups that

01:12:39.520 have CRISPR and AI and millions of dollars to funding.

01:12:45.900 And when you focus on the wrong orgs, when you're out there focused on the Bohemian Grove, 0.99

01:12:50.260 which is just a summer camp for old people, right? Like at this point, right? 0.54

01:12:53.620 It's so true. Yeah. The Bohemian Grove-

01:12:55.260 When you're focused on the Jews. 1.00

01:12:56.740 Old guys hanging out, making pranks, listening to music or whatever. And like, 0.98

01:13:01.300 meanwhile, there are groups that are dedicated to the end of all, not just all living humans,

01:13:07.240 all the souls it's not enough to get all the ones that are alive now oh it's so disturbing

01:13:13.060 they they yeah buddhism is a genuinely disturbing religion like i'm actually like

01:13:18.420 the eradication of every soul um and they will frame it differently they'll say oh it's a

01:13:23.560 unification into a bland like that's eradication buddy no you you are telling me that life is

01:13:31.580 suffering and we must eradicate suffering we must end the cycle what are you talking about

01:13:37.560 ending buddy you you can define what's at the end of that particular tunnel however you want

01:13:42.120 but well i mean they're they're arguing that you're you're clinging in this act of suffering

01:13:46.920 to this concept of self which is only causing more suffering to you wouldn't you be happier

01:13:53.880 if you weren't anything anyway yeah terrifying i'm glad that's not our lives right now i'm glad

01:14:05.860 someone's not telling that telling us we have to stare at them for long periods of time

01:14:10.580 uninterrupted these lame buddhist meditation things i'm so glad the techno puritanism is so

01:14:15.580 fun and loose and uh diverse yeah and non-extractive everyone's so kind to each other and

01:14:24.800 to think that there are groups that are just forcing their members to call friends and family

01:14:31.860 and demand money from them from an organization that wants them to end permanently um and and

01:14:40.380 and to coerce them into living a certain lifestyle it's just i don't know how people get rubbed into

01:14:47.120 this but i've lost all it's high status so this is actually this is important for people to

01:14:52.240 understand how these orgs proliferate okay they built this is what this is what uh vector was

01:14:58.240 what they were called what were they called um leverage are you talking about leverage work too

01:15:02.340 yeah the the founder brands himself as high status and connected to donors was in the wider

01:15:08.480 effective altruist singulitarian peerage network you know he goes to events and people are like

01:15:13.420 well if i go to this and because they're looking for religion they're looking for truth they've

01:15:17.760 been taught their entire lives to hate the west to hate christianity to hate judaism

01:15:20.840 he provides an alternative for them and he's high status so then you go and you get um you know your

01:15:27.660 brain clean which it's like he says it's his goal you come in with all these evil thoughts and it's

01:15:31.380 my job to clean your brain so i'm the only your brain that really doesn't sound good i mean he

01:15:38.180 doesn't use the term clean your brain but that's okay the the the how you would describe what he

01:15:43.340 says he wants to do okay your brain great great fantastic yikes well and i can see how somebody

01:15:52.380 could be i mean look at the way techno puritan we don't come out that we don't say we have all

01:15:55.740 the answers we don't we don't go along with the because we don't is bad we don't you know

01:16:00.720 we say we want to create a small community that can serve as a base for projecting our goals for

01:16:07.700 the future of human civilization from this small community of families, right? And they are

01:16:14.400 something entirely different. You know, they want to insert themselves within large organizations,

01:16:18.100 take them over, manipulate them. It's a very different goal.

01:16:21.700 It is a religion around active dialogue and an interest in long-term human flourishing

01:16:28.380 and cultural sovereignty, the complete opposite of everything that they stand for.

01:16:35.300 but isn't it nice to have a mortal enemy yes lovely yes mortal enemy don't harass them or

01:16:43.280 anything by the way people again they've already fallen apart we should be looking for what's next

01:16:47.280 so you guys in the ea community keep an eye out let me know the next cult reach out we can flag

01:16:52.640 them here first indeed well what we're like six twelve eleven years old eleven years late twelve

01:17:01.200 years late with this guy yeah yeah oh so we can hear the next thing first to be to be the first

01:17:11.660 to break the next yeah let's do it okay i was like because we did not break this one ayla might

01:17:16.740 have broken it 11 years ago not us okay cool cool cool do you want anything for dinner not really

01:17:23.620 okay i'm sorry can i get you anything can i make your life better in some way do you want me

01:17:30.620 wash the new sheets that you have so that you have have you cleaned up the mouse in the attic

01:17:38.340 oh god i keep forgetting that sorry we don't have plastic bags lying around and so

01:17:43.700 i've got plastic bags in my room giant trash bag we paid for those i'm not wasting an entire trash

01:17:50.480 that's like 15 cents uh that's anyway i'll figure it i haven't been getting plastic bags because

01:17:56.400 you don't use them in stores because they charge for them look i have a dirty diaper sitting right

01:18:00.800 here i'm looking at it now i will just use that dirty diaper to pick up the mouse and then wrap

01:18:04.740 the mouse in the diaper and then throw the diaper away that would be my trash bag i have a plan

01:18:10.420 i will handle it an absurdly frugal person simone you know what maybe epigenetics is real

01:18:17.200 this is also how we're different from them you you know if you give us money we spend it on trying to

01:18:22.200 to build stuff make it better look at mudpuppy.ai check it out we need more additional uses of

01:18:28.240 dirty diapers anyway as a world or our fab.ai if you if you want regular you know chatbot related

01:18:33.880 stuff but uh my puppy's a fun new thing such a cute name yeah mudpuppies which i didn't know

01:18:40.140 are basically american axolotls that are brown so they're like they're the they're the like

01:18:45.940 the backwoods my mom called me a mud puppy growing up she called all the kids my puppies 0.88

01:18:51.480 well she also called them all little shits didn't she but yeah which are both backwoods 0.99

01:18:55.440 sayings about little kids because the mud puppies don't even live in texas they live in the 0.99

01:18:59.200 appellation region see there you go yeah they're the the backwoods down home cute axolotl to the 0.99

01:19:07.220 feet as they're brown they're not like pink and gay like the other one oh yeah they're 0.97

01:19:12.260 like the feathered aztecs yes that i that i now hate so much 0.99

01:19:16.900 where the mud puppies are just are just simple brown axiwaddles yes no pretensions and they're 0.99

01:19:25.220 much larger too oh they are they're frankly more interesting anyway love you to decimum 0.54

01:19:30.560 you're a great princess and the kids are amazing and thank you for giving being a great wife to

01:19:36.880 me for another day thank you for being a magnificent husband and not being too mad at

01:19:41.900 me for not explaining to you when you've changed my mind the default understanding should be that

01:19:46.880 If you make a point, I am going to eventually come around to it.

01:19:49.560 I'm just going to be mad at first.

01:19:51.420 Look, it's hard to realize as a human that you've operated under some incredibly mistaken

01:19:56.480 premise for years, if not decades.

01:19:58.520 Okay, allow a girl a little bit of umbrage for a moment as she adjusts to the new paradigm.

01:20:06.740 Don't assume that just because I'm irritable upon learning that I've lived a lie for years, 0.65

01:20:12.860 that I'm not going to change my mind

01:20:15.400 once I realize that I've lived a lie for years, okay?

01:20:17.560 Just bear with me here.

01:20:18.840 I'm sorry.

01:20:19.900 Love you. Bye.

01:20:20.760 I'm sorry to add that tagline

01:20:22.180 to the Reality Fabricator load page.

01:20:23.500 Oh, what?

01:20:23.980 We will replace you?

01:20:25.480 It's so good.

01:20:26.760 And it comes in right before the page finishes loading.

01:20:29.440 So you're like, wait, did I see that?

01:20:31.200 That's perfect.

01:20:32.300 That's perfect.

01:20:33.040 I just saw it when we were getting into this recording room.

01:20:36.620 That's so perfect.

01:20:37.040 It's such a great effect, I think.

01:20:38.880 It freaks people out.

01:20:39.960 Reality Fabricator.

01:20:41.040 When did you add it?

01:20:42.160 i didn't notice it this morning like a week ago oh my gosh okay well i'm not paying attention am i

01:20:47.880 shame on me but i love it it's so good oh my gosh oh life is good i've been waiting all weekend for

01:20:59.200 this episode i cannot wait i'm so excited thank you for doing it this is very fun and we

01:21:06.160 oh my god i told it to stop this then press the big camera button

01:21:12.880 i can't use the camera ask a grown-up or pick a photo instead

01:21:20.980 what are you doing

01:21:23.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:24.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:25.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:26.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:27.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:28.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:29.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:30.800 Ahhhh!

01:21:31.800 Hi Tayden, what are you doing?

01:21:33.800 And Gracie loves you.

01:21:34.800 Whatcha doing?

01:21:35.800 Sorry.

01:21:36.800 Sorry.

Based Camp - September 16, 2026

Buddhist Cult At The Nexus of The Tech Elite (It Wants to Kill Your Soul)

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