Based Camp - Danes Got Rid Of Migrants： What Happened Next Was CRAZY

00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I'm excited to be speaking with you today because we've had a lot of evolving

00:00:06.220 ideas about our immigration policy. Like, you know, can we do some form of immigration that's

00:00:11.540 okay? And we've kind of shifted to like, no, it's not possible. But then people kept telling us to

00:00:16.760 look at what Denmark is doing. And I thought that maybe Denmark would have some super-based policies

00:00:21.740 like, oh, you know, you should have assimilation tests. You should learn the language. You should,

00:00:27.980 i don't know like we should limit the number of of asylum receivers that we we accept but no it's 1.00

00:00:35.180 so much more than that because they're like you know what i really hate i really hate immigrant 1.00

00:00:39.880 slums let's just destroy them systematically and with data and that's actually what they did 0.96

00:00:47.480 they they they implemented this like anti-ghetto program starting in 2018 that has actually been

00:00:55.040 really effective and it's this whole system for identifying them and then subjecting whatever

00:01:00.980 they consider to be a ghetto subjecting them to punitive measures like they'll kick out entire 0.78

00:01:07.480 families if just one member has convicted a crime they will force their children that's some good

00:01:13.260 stuff i like this good it's good they'll force the children to learn danish language traditions and

00:01:18.140 norms for a while although this this stopped they even imposed harsher sentences for vandalism and

00:01:24.080 theft and threats that they that anyone committed within one of these designated areas so like it's

00:01:30.240 like me telling our kids like look you're gonna get you know grounded for a week if you do x

00:01:35.900 in general but if you do it in the middle of a messy room that you just made messy like

00:01:40.160 two weeks done this was called double punishment or double struff which is double struff i love

00:01:47.240 the day that you're making it all nice i know just like if someone told that to me i'd be like

00:01:51.160 oh two scoops please that sounds fantastic like whatever i agree with this i think that we should

00:01:56.760 be implementing laws like this and i think we need to get back to it in the united states like

00:02:00.900 and and frankly it makes even these communities safer real yeah wait i mean what we're gonna get

00:02:07.640 into i'll walk you through the details of it and the more i i learned about this the more i thought

00:02:12.060 i wish that various communities around where i lived were subject to these same rules because

00:02:19.460 they're they're actually really smart they're good for everyone involved be they immigrants or 0.83

00:02:24.120 non-immigrants like what they're really trying to do is just break up these areas that become

00:02:30.000 slums that become unsafe and unpleasant for everyone involved this is exactly the way i feel 1.00

00:02:35.720 about this in terms of like who do we want to get out of the country and people are like oh the 0.99

00:02:40.600 immigrants or whatever you know there's some groups that have been in america for a long time 0.96

00:02:44.960 that cause just as much damage, right? 1.00

00:02:47.120 It's true. 1.00

00:02:47.780 And there are some immigrants

00:02:49.220 that are very economically productive

00:02:51.080 and really help move the country

00:02:53.020 and our value system forwards.

00:02:55.040 Yeah.

00:02:55.360 And those people aren't the problem, right?

00:02:58.100 Well, and what's great about this

00:02:59.340 is this is a system that doesn't punish them.

00:03:02.360 Like what's the case with so many other countries,

00:03:04.900 like there are countries in the EU even

00:03:07.460 that are even more strict with immigration.

00:03:09.440 Like Hungary's like not even, don't even come.

00:03:12.020 I think a lot of people are not seeing it this way

00:03:14.520 is in the united states where you have some communities like when we talked about the

00:03:18.580 anthony trial this feeling of persecution the black american population has or a portion of

00:03:23.760 it has that is just completely imaginary when you look at the actual data or what's actually being

00:03:29.200 done as we saw in that case and the people freaking out about it and it's like just make

00:03:35.500 this uh mythical persecution that they feel so high that they just self-deport if they're going

00:03:41.400 to be that much of a negative externality for society because these people who are out protesting

00:03:45.220 that case middle of the day on a weekday they don't have jobs right like that's why they're

00:03:48.640 able to to go there every day and do this right and we're actually already starting to see this

00:03:53.440 i don't know if you've seen this video thing where it's it's a classic like right-wing video

00:03:59.540 where they go over the video of an american a black american who had like a persecution complex

00:04:04.620 so they decided to move to africa where like everything was going to be great and awesome

00:04:08.660 and then they realize how terrible it is and how everyone there is just constantly

00:04:12.940 exploiting them and victimizing them and sees them as the bad guy and that they just don't

00:04:18.280 understand why that why why everybody and it's like well i mean that's one they're partially

00:04:23.280 doing it because you're an outsider but two i mean these countries there is a reason why they

00:04:28.040 are so much poorer and one of the reasons is is is just they have a culture in a lot of these

00:04:34.900 regions of scamming people constantly like that's that's the main way and and cultures differentiate

00:04:41.080 i know this is something that like horrifies people to hear and there are obviously a lot

00:04:45.960 of different reasons why i mean a whole other episode why is africa poor we've explained one

00:04:50.740 of the reasons is belief in witches is so high that it leads to distrust in business interactions

00:04:54.880 like it's actually a big problem how much they believe in witches oh yeah we did a whole episode

00:04:59.480 on that and that like they think that the united states is cursing them with spells and that's why

00:05:05.880 things are working out but if you if you've tried to or if you have read about this might actually 0.76

00:05:12.780 be a great way to look at like why africa is poor to just read through one of these black americans

00:05:17.900 who went to africa and like tried to start a company and then it just like every stage people 0.50

00:05:23.380 don't show up like you're paying them and they just stop showing up one day or they steal stuff

00:05:28.060 from you even though you're paying them at above market wages or they and then at every stage the

00:05:33.260 level of corruption just makes the end product worse and worse and worse until it's just not

00:05:37.960 competitive no matter how low the wages are within a region and this is i mean it it's it's really

00:05:45.300 horrible and we've seen this to a lesser extent in latin america like you you get this doing business

00:05:49.200 in latin america as well everything's a scam like top to bottom there it's like some scam involved

00:05:55.200 in so many parts of like regular business interactions

00:05:58.740 or trying to make something work

00:06:00.100 that you do not have in a lot of these other countries.

00:06:02.720 And it causes negative externalities

00:06:04.380 for the society around it.

00:06:05.580 Yeah, it just makes everything more expensive

00:06:07.200 to function properly.

00:06:08.860 Like because of rampant scams

00:06:11.960 or people trying to avoid things, for example,

00:06:14.320 their version of the IRS called Sunat

00:06:16.480 is forced to like literally show up at businesses

00:06:19.820 and start just randomly interviewing all of your employees

00:06:22.300 and asking them how much they make

00:06:24.000 because they they know that people are lying that much that this is the only way they can actually

00:06:28.980 functionally catch people and you have to file your taxes every month instead of every year

00:06:33.600 like imagine if the irs had to have a budget for field agents to just literally like visit

00:06:39.120 virtually every business on a well i mean they're gonna need that if we keep accepting people from

00:06:44.440 countries where that's normal into our country yeah right like yeah i know at this point i kind 1.00

00:06:49.660 I wish that we just had an, honestly, like our interactions with Sunat is like tedious as they 1.00

00:06:54.400 can be. I was like, all right, guys, you're, you're doing it. This is good. You're doing your

00:06:59.220 job. Yeah. Yeah. There was, there was some comfort in that. That's a very fair point,

00:07:03.440 but yeah, I mean, I do, what I do like about Denmark is that they are, they're trying so hard

00:07:09.960 when all these other countries, like, you know, in Japan, it's almost impossible to immigrate.

00:07:13.500 It's, it's almost impossible to immigrate to Australia, which basically doesn't accept

00:07:18.700 asylum seekers, nor does Hungary, nor does, I mean, Poland, I think, is more restrictive too.

00:07:23.300 Japan made it easier to immigrate for a while, and now they're making it more restrictive again.

00:07:27.840 Yeah, well, and yeah, but like it's, those are just basically one policy which you see across

00:07:33.320 many of these countries that I just mentioned, for example, is just nobody. No one comes. We're

00:07:37.600 not allowing it to happen. What I find interesting about Denmark and what we might be able to learn

00:07:42.080 from them is there may be ways to accept people in to try to help people to give an opportunity

00:07:48.780 to those who want to opt into your culture and opt into your world and contribute to your economy

00:07:55.140 they can come they can help and if they're not going to help then let's get rid of this also 0.95

00:08:01.000 i think it's really this what makes them unique is this especially this ghetto policy of we are 0.86

00:08:06.860 not going to have as they put it now more diplomatically parallel societies in our country

00:08:12.520 where there are just these whole zones that don't feel like like Denmark and there are so many of

00:08:21.860 these zones in the United States too in some ways growing up I really liked them like it was so cool

00:08:28.500 when we lived in Miami for a while where like it really didn't feel like Miami or like the United

00:08:33.220 States. Cause you'd get in a car and like your Uber driver doesn't speak any English and you'd

00:08:38.400 go shopping and no one speaks any English and everywhere you walk, no one speaks any English.

00:08:42.200 And you're like, this is weird, but interesting. Then we've had Chinatowns forever where it

00:08:47.620 totally feels like another country. Like Oakland's Chinatown had like a pretty good concentration of

00:08:52.540 that in the San Francisco Bay area. Plus there's the San Francisco Chinatown, which could feel

00:08:56.780 like that in certain parts of it. So like there are parts of it that I think are cool, but if you

00:09:01.820 have that with increased poverty and crime it gets bad and actually that's kind of how this

00:09:08.960 works with Denmark it's not like oh if you have some kind of cultural flair you can't be here

00:09:14.860 it's based on the statistical nexus of bad things I'll get into it but like the the primary thing

00:09:21.760 with Denmark in terms of what differentiates them is their asylum status has shifted from

00:09:27.660 just being like, okay, we're going to help you. You can be here for a while, and then we're going

00:09:33.440 to get you back home. They have very low asylum recognition rates, and then they also have strict

00:09:39.900 self-sufficiency requirements. You can't just go there and leech off the state as easily as you 1.00

00:09:46.360 could historically in Sweden or as you can in Germany and France. Also, they are more relatively

00:09:53.400 open to skilled laborers which is a really common thing among many strict immigration countries 0.56

00:09:58.320 but they're really strict with people who are both non-skilled but also non-eu and this is one

00:10:06.000 of the pivotal things about denmark's immigration policy where they they have different policies

00:10:12.220 if you are western or if you are not western and we're going to get back to how that's going for

00:10:19.120 them because probably pretty well it's it's going well for them but somebody doesn't like it and is 0.98

00:10:26.220 trying to stop it i wonder if you can guess who we've been fucked by the pope for the love of god 0.98

00:10:32.620 context buzz off the new pope is apparently chill af jesus said i shall not bogart salvation heaven 0.99

00:10:41.880 is dead asleep fam ocasio cortez 2024 i need one of you go to rome and brainwash the pope into a

00:10:49.320 hardcore religious conservative overnight note in this case it's only downstream of the pope's 0.56

00:10:53.960 push for unfettered immigration in terms of the eu pushing for this and the laws of the eu

00:10:58.920 pushing it on non-catholic majority countries even just as a side note because i didn't know

00:11:05.480 where to put this in the episode but i had this revelation yesterday where we did the episode

00:11:09.720 and we had a few people in the comments who were like oh the holocaust didn't happen or whatever

00:11:15.080 and i got very confused by this assertion because you know like i have grandparents

00:11:21.100 simone has grandparents and our grandparents fought in the western theater right so like we

00:11:26.620 are aware like from their own stories i asked simone about this i mean is it normal to like

00:11:33.080 talk about seeing the camps or hearing about the camps because they had if you didn't see them

00:11:38.200 personally you would have heard other people who had seen them and i had this realization

00:11:42.660 where i was like oh my god what are the two things that are most common in people who deny 0.85

00:11:49.280 the holocaust and it's either they're from broken families e.g it's very common in black communities

00:11:54.800 where they don't have fathers as frequently and in catholic communities who are recent immigrants 0.50

00:12:01.060 in most catholic countries didn't actually fight in world war ii or at least fight meaningfully

00:12:07.340 against the the ends specifically ireland didn't fight spain didn't fight france was immediately

00:12:14.300 conquered italy was on their side and latin america was largely uninvolved so if you're from

00:12:19.880 any of these countries you wouldn't have grandparents who were involved in this now i'm

00:12:24.680 not saying they're all the descendants of cowards and everything but it just makes sense something

00:12:29.220 that seems so confusing to me it's like didn't you hear stories about it when you were growing

00:12:32.480 up from your grandparents and i was like oh no they probably didn't either because they're from

00:12:36.760 broken families or they're from families that were not involved in the war but yeah they literally

00:12:43.600 have this is how their explicit non-western targeting works so if you're an immigrant or

00:12:48.360 a descendant this isn't just first generations from a country outside the eu you are considered

00:12:54.700 non-western so this includes the middle east north africa pakistan and turkey but it doesn't

00:13:03.100 include for example like the united states canada australia like generally western countries even

00:13:08.420 if they're non-eu countries the uk those are all like fine they're like they're western which is

00:13:13.200 i think quite interesting so they really are looking for a cultural match and here's how

00:13:17.320 their vulnerable residential areas or parallel societies policy works first it came out of their

00:13:25.360 initial 2018 like they kind of had this crash out in 2018 where they were just so done with

00:13:34.480 immigrants and it was that year that they released the the progenitor of this called 0.89

00:13:38.920 their ghetto package and they literally called it the ghetto package the ghetto package okay yes

00:13:44.220 and they they had to they decided to officially drop the explicit term ghetto in 2021 because

00:13:50.960 they considered it stigmatizing and then they replaced that with vulnerable residential areas

00:13:58.480 and parallel societies but i still even though they did that the fact that they started out by

00:14:05.680 calling them ghettos the ghetto package all know that their ghettos is enough for me and i'm so 0.89

00:14:12.060 with that no one wants ghettos people in the ghetto don't want ghettos okay like they might 0.96

00:14:16.860 want cool cultural enclaves but they don't want ghettos and this is is this framed under larger 0.63

00:14:23.760 policies they have called one denmark without parallel societies like basically if you want 0.97

00:14:28.740 to be in denmark freaking be in denmark don't half-ass it and what happens is every year

00:14:35.620 they publish this list that identifies crummy social housing neighborhoods and then it applies

00:14:42.920 graduated and increasingly coercive measures to them if they stay on the naughty list and it's

00:14:50.680 very data-driven it focuses on socioeconomic metrics and crime metrics and ethnic composition 0.56

00:14:56.460 which is how they're kind of getting in trouble and this parallel society which I'm reminding you 0.84

00:15:04.120 means ghetto and they explicitly said that earlier so I should just call it ghettos a ghetto as far

00:15:09.980 they're concerned is both vulnerable and more than 50 percent of residents are immigrants or

00:15:16.800 descendants from non-western countries that is outside the eu uk usa canada australia new zealand

00:15:23.000 so you could have a vulnerable society but if it's all like brit british expats this is not

00:15:31.760 going to end up on the danger list do you see what i'm saying like they are targeting they're

00:15:37.600 they're being very explicit about like integration with Western society,

00:15:42.080 which is interesting. And I did, I just, I didn't, I didn't know,

00:15:45.660 like my progressive programming. I didn't know you could do that.

00:15:48.060 Can you do that? Are you allowed to do that? We're going to get to that.

00:15:51.000 But I didn't know anyone had the balls to do this. 0.97

00:15:54.180 This is very interesting. And okay. 0.98

00:15:56.020 So first this is how they identify a vulnerable area and anyone could be in a

00:15:59.860 vulnerable area. It could be all people who've lived in Denmark for hundreds of

00:16:04.760 years. It could be people from, you know, Germany or Australia. It has to have at least two out of

00:16:11.520 these four criteria met on a two year or more basis. So more than 40% of the residents aged

00:16:17.860 18 to 64 are neither employed nor in school already. That's like a, that's pretty generous 1.00

00:16:24.680 in my opinion. If nearly half of the people in an area are neats or like unemployed and not

00:16:32.560 studying that's that's a sick area so i think they should be a little more strict with that

00:16:38.000 but it's a start also so next to criteria is that the share of residents convicted of penal law

00:16:44.600 weapons or drug offenses is more than three times the national average totally fair i would have it

00:16:49.380 two times but whatever also more than 60 percent of residents age 30 to 59 have only primary school

00:16:56.860 education so like if it's we'll say an unemployed crime crime-ridden neighborhood oh wait that's

00:17:03.920 already two criteria but if it's like a crime-ridden neighborhood but everyone has graduate degrees and

00:17:08.400 they're employed it's okay all right and then average gross income for residents aged 15 to 64

00:17:15.360 is less than 55 percent of the regional average so really they're targeting poor uneducated non-working

00:17:23.400 crime-ridden areas. That screams ghetto. So I think they're being super reasonable with this. 0.92

00:17:28.980 And they also have this, even if you are not super immigrant heavy, you can still fall into

00:17:36.840 some kind of program. They have a separate prevention areas list that they introduced in

00:17:42.500 2021 for earlier intervention. So it only has thresholds of over 30% non-Western share.

00:17:50.180 So this isn't like all or nothing, but here's what they do with the ghettos that they've identified. If a place has been designated as a parallel society, AKA ghetto for at least five consecutive years. So again, I would just say two, I really don't care. Two consecutive years. Here's what happens. Their kids get a remedial intervention. Basically they have to get a Danish level test before they start school and they're offered preparatory language training. 0.58

00:18:18.140 so they're like, dude, you've got to learn our language. All children aged one year and older

00:18:22.740 living in a vulnerable area have to attend preschool for at least 25 hours a week.

00:18:27.240 And that has to be focused on Danish language traditions and norms. And parents may provide

00:18:33.820 the equivalent instruction at home instead, but they have to be monitored for that. And parents

00:18:38.680 who refuse to preschool their children along these lines can lose the normal Danish child benefit,

00:18:44.300 which is good i would be more strict than that but it's a start yeah i wouldn't give them child

00:18:49.000 benefits at all what are they doing is these yeah i mean they're being very generous but still i say

00:18:54.740 it's a start and it's inspiring you can learn from it just do the evil strict version of this and

00:18:59.920 you're fine in terms of adults they're coaxed into integrating so housing association meetings

00:19:05.860 in vulnerable areas have to be held in danish they can't be in whatever like the predominant

00:19:10.420 languages. Residents, and this is big because keep in mind, like there are plenty of communities

00:19:16.080 in the United States where they're trying to change languages to the immigrant community's

00:19:22.100 language because they're trying to be so accommodating. So I appreciate that they're

00:19:25.540 pushing for, no, this is our country. You're going to use our language. Residents are also

00:19:30.760 subject to mandatory Danish language and active citizenship integration programs. So they're not

00:19:36.760 only being taught Danish, but they're also being taught Danish societal norms. And there are

00:19:41.480 participation expectations. You can't just know our norms. You have to conform with them. And if

00:19:48.960 you don't participate, you can get reductions in your social benefits on top of already lower

00:19:54.600 integration allowance rates compared to higher standard social assistance. So Danish citizens

00:20:00.660 who are not immigrants are getting more social services than people who are immigrants, to your

00:20:05.640 earlier point. And then my favorite part is that housing has changed. So the social housing share

00:20:12.940 in these neighborhoods has to be reduced to a maximum of 40% in redevelopment areas. And that's

00:20:20.380 a 60% reduction target. So they will literally just demolish social housing blocks and empty 0.60

00:20:28.000 buildings out and convert them into private or cooperative ownership. Like it's forced

00:20:32.400 a gentrification of ghettos, which I've never seen done before, especially not on a government

00:20:38.720 level. And you can imagine how people would freak out if that was done in the United States. So

00:20:43.900 again, I've got to tip my hat to them. This is impressive, especially for EU country. And they

00:20:49.040 will evict entire families from social housing and relocate them to a different part of Denmark

00:20:54.840 if just one member commits a crime, which I think is great because we've been talking a lot

00:21:01.620 internally and among the base camp community about high trust societies and the importance of

00:21:06.680 basically, you know, people being encouraged to self-police. And this is a great kind of policy

00:21:14.280 you can implement within a government that will force citizens to self-police. Like if I know I'm

00:21:19.180 going to lose my sweet housing deal because my brother is messing around, I'm going to be so on

00:21:27.040 you know what i mean and it's it's yeah it encourages communities to handle but

00:21:31.600 what yeah what what is the level at which the community is just demolished how did that that

00:21:36.200 or do they not do that they oh they'll just evict people they'll evict people and demolish

00:21:43.300 the buildings and then give that land or or facilitate contracts going to companies that

00:21:50.260 will develop them as private co-ops for like bougie people i love that too yeah yeah you know

00:21:56.960 like i feel like as kids who grew up in the 90s a really common plot in films was this folksy old

00:22:03.860 bookstore is going to get steamrolled over by a private equity company that's going to build

00:22:08.340 high rises and this is just denmark being like yes we will no let us help you we've got you here

00:22:16.020 we're doing this but i think i mean if i was implementing a policy like this along with the

00:22:21.380 eviction i would like revoke citizen status for everyone i agree yeah and i asked about that i'm

00:22:27.760 like why are they why are they not also being deported i'm i'm baffled as to why they would

00:22:33.520 not just deport people and this is something that does happen in places like japan if you commit

00:22:39.700 crimes you're out we don't like you and i don't i think what they might be like is well what if 0.79

00:22:45.260 they're second generation immigrants i'm like i don't care if someone's a second generation 0.98

00:22:48.020 immigrant deport them right like honestly like i think it we should get to a point bring back 0.51

00:22:52.940 penal colonies like i keep saying right and this is well i mean i think trump has you know when 0.67

00:22:58.760 people keep freaking out about them sending deportees to places like haiti when they're

00:23:03.500 not haitian i'm like that's you know but i mean for like american citizens too what we know i i

00:23:09.260 mean that too like let's deport more people to haiti like that's our penal colony just deport

00:23:13.900 them there like it's it's a it's a pvp server okay like i mean after a while it would probably

00:23:19.660 improve haiti so i mean like look at australia actually australia is doing great now relatively

00:23:25.860 speaking and they now actually are one of the most western countries when it comes to immigration 0.98

00:23:32.220 yeah because they're so good they can't let any of the undesirables in meanwhile they were like 0.98

00:23:37.960 literally the trash can of the world for a while. So look, that could, Haiti could be next. Let's 1.00

00:23:43.840 do it. I'm saying like, this is, this doesn't have to be about immigrants. We, there was this long

00:23:49.860 analysis. I can't remember if, I think Scott Alexander published it. Maybe it was Camille

00:23:54.680 about crime and incarceration of what actually works, right? Is it deterrent? Is it deterrence

00:24:00.700 that scares people away from doing crimes? Or is it the fact that they've been removed from society?

00:24:06.160 And it was just so clear from the data that the benefit of incarceration or punishment isn't to scare people away from doing bad things. It's literally to take them away. We need them gone. And the more they can just be removed from a society, the better off that society is.

00:24:26.360 and i don't want these people to suffer i'm all i'm fine with just like well i mean if they

00:24:31.820 suffering on people around them right like they are the cause it is it is their culture it is

00:24:37.920 people like them that leads to the suffering yeah so if you move them to an environment where

00:24:42.520 everyone's like them then it forces them all to either have to improve or live in the hellscape

00:24:46.960 they've created the problem is is that you think oh they will improve when what we really see i 0.87

00:24:52.660 mean again this is why so many countries in africa are as poor as they are is they just don't they

00:24:57.900 just keep scamming each other scamming each other scamming each other faking projects faking doing

00:25:02.640 this faking the construction faking that until the whole society is just a hellscape i don't know i

00:25:07.200 mean australia i don't know australia's history we actually have a lot of australian listeners

00:25:12.000 maybe they can explain what they've been taught in history class about how they turned from a

00:25:15.360 penal colony into a successful country but whatever i here is is what what happened though

00:25:23.520 because this is relatively new right so just from 2018 to 2022 these vulnerable residential areas

00:25:30.840 which are pretty bad per the criteria that i listed off right they fell from 43 so there were

00:25:36.620 43 of these in denmark in 2018 to 17 in 2022 wow this works like you can i mean it might be because

00:25:47.680 you're like evicting and demolishing social housing but it works parallel societies dropped

00:25:53.260 from 29 to 10 in the same period remember vulnerable neighborhoods residential areas

00:25:59.880 don't have to be immigrant based but like even during this time even like non-immigrant communities

00:26:06.180 became a lot well reduced in frequency i guess or yeah and i'm okay with this being applied to

00:26:12.560 redneck communities to anything right like you you apply this anywhere where you have a genuine 0.64

00:26:17.080 parallel society if it's a ghetto if it's a blight if it's not a good place to live 0.75

00:26:21.220 gentrify like forced gentrification all the way this is great so i alluded to someone trying to

00:26:28.340 resist this the eu is is trying to like literally block this the eu is trying to yeah eu is so

00:26:35.500 evil yes so that this whole parallel societies program despite the fact that they took out the

00:26:41.720 word ghetto and it's working yeah anyway the parallel societies program is facing legal

00:26:49.520 challenges on eu discrimination grounds you see the explicit use of the non-western ethnic

00:26:57.100 criterion for triggering the strongest measures that is to say the parallel society aka ghetto

00:27:04.000 designation and redevelopment has been criticized by the eu in february of last year an eu court of

00:27:11.580 justice advocate general opined that it constitutes direct discrimination based on ethnic origin and

00:27:19.380 obviously yes but we all of all of our countries are built on that that's like yes i mean like

00:27:30.500 that was the point that's why they made the designation because there's this one group

00:27:35.160 and i can also share that data groups are different pretending that different groups

00:27:39.220 the data is so freaking clear on that and we will cover that but it just oh so but in december of

00:27:44.920 last year the court of justice issued statements indicating that ethnic criteria breach eu law

00:27:50.620 and they recommend for danish courts to change their ways and we're still waiting for final

00:27:57.980 rulings on very specific cases of people trying to like contest all this and i recommend you do

00:28:04.960 what i tell you to or else yeah because what's happening is i'm sure some social justice

00:28:11.780 non-profit has funded people who are being evicted say like one of their kids murders someone and

00:28:17.940 they get they kicked out of their social housing and they're like i've had injustice done and some

00:28:23.280 non-profit comes in and is like hey why aren't you letting families kids murder people in their

00:28:28.420 neighborhoods why are you kicking this is literally where leftism is at this point right like

00:28:33.080 there's a reason why that one why that army hammer movie has been very successful people are like

00:28:39.640 are you kidding me like we're not allowed you're telling me that if and i again the criteria i

00:28:46.640 think i think we need to go full army hammer on the problem and just again that is why that's

00:28:53.820 that's where we've got it for people who don't know the reason army hammer was canceled and like

00:28:57.680 disappeared from the public was because it came out that he had a boar fetish and he wasn't in

00:29:03.440 movies forever now he's in this new movie where he hunts down like gravis and i'm like just no no

00:29:08.340 he doesn't he's so he he's the move the plot of the movie is he's this ex-military dude living in

00:29:13.900 the eu and he doesn't only murder the the people who committed these crimes he also goes after

00:29:21.340 officials who don't do anything about it because this the european and i think broader anger isn't

00:29:29.660 just about like migrants committing crimes because to a certain extent you're like look

00:29:34.780 they're coming from these circumstances a lot of this is out of their control like i don't want 1.00

00:29:38.420 them here but i don't like i i expect they're the scorpion they're gonna do what they do it's a

00:29:43.320 scorpion what do you expect right like your whole thing but it's these people you need to go full

00:29:49.780 army hammer on the solution yeah but it's the officials it's the officials who know that

00:29:54.220 certain groups are disproportionately committing crimes and hurting their local societies and then

00:29:59.540 showing up to denmark and being like you can't do that that's discriminatory even though the stats

00:30:05.500 are super clear but yeah despite despite the fact that that the eu's trying like dexter but for

00:30:10.800 immigrants like dexter but for immigrants and for officials who turn a blind eye or even attempt to

00:30:17.300 suppress criticism of policies that are leading societies to fall apart and lose essentially

00:30:22.440 everybody wanted this everybody wanted this movie everyone's like i'm so fucking done with this 0.74

00:30:26.720 and i think that that's what we're going to start seeing in the eu i mean i expect more 0.78

00:30:33.520 vigilante justice especially against officials sort of going into the future because the problem

00:30:39.320 feels so intractable at this point and i think you know where this is like most effective is

00:30:48.740 specifically at the lower level people who are initiating things like the challenge to denmark

00:30:54.940 and stuff like that right when people don't feel that they can go out and try to enforce this or

00:31:00.440 there is some sort of negative externality to them other than just status seeking you'll start to see

00:31:06.000 it happening less yeah no i'm not i'm not advocating for anything i'm just saying that

00:31:11.340 somebody's going to reason through this and think that because that's sort of the position that

00:31:16.360 people are being forced in when they're voting for these programs these programs are being enacted

00:31:21.620 and they are working and then people are still like no let's keep in the the the greatest right

00:31:27.740 like come on yeah yeah i agree well and i mean yeah there's this really weird resistance taking

00:31:35.500 place in europe like the netherlands and the uk are to a lesser extent trying to sort of push back

00:31:42.520 in a way similar to what denmark is doing but not even close i mean denmark goes beyond new zealand

00:31:47.800 or sorry the netherlands exam-based national system where they're trying to like sort of test

00:31:52.920 people's ability to integrate into the netherlands language and society and traditions and the uk

00:32:00.000 also has the citizenship test because Denmark also has these area specific. I just, I love the

00:32:05.940 ghetto policy and the child mandates and the housing redevelopment tied to specific ethnic 0.75

00:32:11.500 mandates. And then even Sweden, which historically was so open to immigration, leading to huge gang 0.94

00:32:19.560 problems, fire bombings, integration issues. In fact, we're going to have a guest come on later 1.00

00:32:25.020 this month, I think maybe for like one main episode and then one weekend episode. And in

00:32:29.720 one of the weekend episode he he said he could talk to us about these like integration towns

00:32:35.900 where they're trying now to like teach immigrant groups to integrate in meaningful ways like

00:32:43.580 he was describing them giving lessons to like literally learn how to use ovens because they 0.96

00:32:50.600 were lighting fires on the floors in their apartments and causing buildings to burn down 1.00

00:32:56.700 i'm sorry you shouldn't be accepting immigrants who are that out of out of yeah so i mean look 0.98

00:33:03.380 let's just say denmark is fearing better than sweden right now okay then i don't see denmark 0.98

00:33:08.300 like this is how you use an oven like they're now just trying to get people to like hey your

00:33:13.720 kidneys to speak some some a little more fluently but the outcomes are are pretty clear so first off 0.94

00:33:21.780 In Denmark, despite all of these interventions, they still see more crime from non-Western 1.00

00:33:29.640 immigrants and descendants. 1.00

00:33:31.820 So let's see, they have high crime indices for male descendants from Lebanon, that's 1.00

00:33:36.940 3 to 4x a general population, Somalia, Syria, and Iraq at 2 to 3x, and then young male non-Western

00:33:44.940 descendants have markedly higher rates, like 13% of certain 17 to 24 cohorts were convicted

00:33:52.260 in their peak data periods. And this is strongest in violent crime, certain sexual offenses,

00:33:59.900 property crime, and traffic violations. So first off, I feel like, I mean, I guess EU's 0.55

00:34:07.060 non-discrimination policies have nothing to do with like, is it discrimination when a group

00:34:12.460 statistically and clearly even within despite your more punitive measures bro it's discriminating

00:34:18.480 when when multiple people see you stab a white kid to death it's still discrimination if you're

00:34:23.000 punished for it right like yeah this is where the left is right now it has nothing to do with

00:34:27.940 whether or not they actually are a negative externality on other groups or whether or not

00:34:31.840 they actually did something criminal it's just about what really the destruction of western

00:34:37.420 civilization like that's that's where we are with like the eu and stuff like that at this point 0.99

00:34:41.480 Yeah, but I just, I wanted to make that clear that like, despite all these measures, Danish citizens and even immigrant groups are still being disproportionately hurt by these non-Western immigrant participants in their society. 0.97

00:34:59.800 And they're super not wrong for being like, no, we're going to hold you to a higher standard because you have a worse reputation and statistically you're doing worse stuff. 0.97

00:35:07.100 i mean like if like we as as parents understand that some of our kids are way more likely to like

00:35:13.560 vandalize our house and draw on our walls and do stuff like that right like we know that and so we

00:35:19.240 keep a closer eye on them that we don't hate that kid we just know they they just tend to do some

00:35:26.060 stuff yeah so like we would if if you know in denmark you can have laws where groups that are

00:35:32.300 more stabby like even if a normal person can walk around with a knife you know you shouldn't let a

00:35:37.400 seek walk around with a knife oh my god okay right what i should say though is despite this fact 0.89

00:35:44.500 that non-western immigrants and descendants of immigrants in denmark are more likely to be 0.82

00:35:52.260 committing crimes they still have in denmark overall public better public safety and lower

00:35:58.740 escalation of gang violence than say sweden which saw all these sharp rises and bombings and

00:36:05.560 shootings linked to immigrant background networks and denmark's earlier strict controls on numbers

00:36:11.280 and proactive area interventions do correlate with fewer visible no-go style problems although 0.86

00:36:17.520 i've only really heard of no-go style like no-go neighborhoods in sweden sweden's just so screwed

00:36:24.220 by that and then there are also similar over representation patterns in the netherlands like

00:36:30.520 some cbs data found that second generation both foreign parents people were committing crimes at

00:36:39.240 4.7 times the native suspect rate which was highest among moroccan and caribbean and somali

00:36:46.480 origins so again non-western per denmark's qualifications and same in in germany and france

00:36:54.220 But anyway, there is a reduced number of high crime convictions in Denmark, and there are fewer dangerous areas.

00:37:01.220 And as I said earlier, they reduced the number of areas that even met their criteria for ghettos, a.k.a. parallel societies, since 2018.

00:37:09.480 So that's huge. Also, there is a lower strain on their social services than in other countries.

00:37:16.480 So there are definitely gaps between their immigrants and their native citizens, but

00:37:22.160 it's not as bad as places in like Germany or France or Sweden, for example, where they

00:37:28.340 were just way more generous.

00:37:30.820 In terms of their sort of fiscal situation, multiple register-based studies have found 0.62

00:37:36.600 a large negative net fiscal impact for non-Western immigrants and descendants due to their lower 0.90

00:37:41.660 employment and their higher benefits. 0.97

00:37:43.840 And here's the crazy thing.

00:37:45.720 Again, another reason why I feel like Denmark is super justified. 0.84

00:37:50.740 Western immigrants are positive or neutral. 0.99

00:37:54.760 So I don't know. 1.00

00:37:57.460 I feel like maybe we should just make a rule that you, we've discussed this actually, that

00:38:03.880 if you're a net taxpayer, if you're a net positive fiscally to your country, then you

00:38:08.960 can stay.

00:38:09.480 And if you're not, then you either get deported or at least you lose the right to vote.

00:38:16.300 You have to lose the right to vote if you are not a net payer into the system.

00:38:20.860 I think that should just be the case whether you're an immigrant or immigrant descendant or not.

00:38:25.660 But they have definitely, here's another really big thing, addressed the concentrated costs that are associated with problem areas by gentrifying them forcefully, which is pretty meaningful.

00:38:36.140 which has reduced this like pressure that you'll see on Germany and France where they have these

00:38:42.640 areas that are just incredibly expensive to try to remediate. I mean, that program that I described

00:38:47.220 earlier that we're hopefully going to learn more about from one of our guests sounds incredibly 0.88

00:38:51.360 expensive and just ridiculous. So basically Denmark is doing better off. There are countries

00:38:57.740 that are stricter around the world, but Denmark is doing its best to help. And I feel like we can

00:39:03.640 learn a lot from it. And this has moderated somewhat my view of how to manage immigration.

00:39:10.560 Because remember, originally we were like, okay, you can choose one thing, generous social services

00:39:15.620 or open borders. But then we realized that if you have open borders, but no social services,

00:39:22.660 eventually you'll get to a point where there are so many immigrants that they'll just devote 0.88

00:39:25.880 generous social services in. So then I was like, well, then screw that. We can't have open borders. 1.00

00:39:31.200 But maybe based on this, one, I'm like a really big fan of identifying areas that are really not doing well and just changing them forcefully, being like, no, you're not allowed to turn into a slum. 0.95

00:39:48.240 We're not doing this. 0.69

00:39:49.360 We're not going to provide social housing here anymore.

00:39:52.460 We're going to reduce the percentage because we can't have this become this hole in the larger area.

00:39:58.980 And I do think that everyone benefits. If you're in social housing, you don't want to be concentrated in a ghetto. Like your mom always said with purchasing houses, you want to be in the worst house in a nice neighborhood. That's how you know you're in a good investment.

00:40:13.020 So I also think the general policy, like if you care about vulnerable people and asylum seekers and migrants, you want them to be integrated into good communities with low crime and people who are doing well, because then they're more likely to themselves do well.

00:40:28.600 Like everything rubs off, right?

00:40:30.600 Depression rubs off among friends.

00:40:32.940 Being fat is contagious in a way.

00:40:36.560 You're more likely to be overweight if you have a lot of overweight friends.

00:40:39.900 And I think it's the same thing with this kind of thing.

00:40:41.660 So I think it's really good policy and it sort of shapes how I view bad neighborhoods going forward.

00:40:48.760 I love that Denmark's doing it and I hope the EU is not able to stop them.

00:40:51.740 And that's all I have to say.

00:40:53.280 All right.

00:40:54.140 Well, I love it.

00:40:55.040 And if they if they do try, it's revolution time.

00:40:57.600 You got to go army hammer on these people.

00:40:59.700 Release the hammer.

00:41:01.100 Yeah, the army hammer solution.

00:41:02.920 Turn them all into food. 0.96

00:41:04.520 Eat them. 0.91

00:41:05.520 Right.

00:41:05.980 Right.

00:41:06.340 I guess.

00:41:06.740 Yeah.

00:41:06.880 There was a UK politician who was he wanted to fill the potholes with them.

00:41:10.960 but why do that when you could just turn them into soylent grain it's fine

00:41:16.040 that's the the the truly western solution i mean if you look at the way northern europeans used to

00:41:22.460 act oh during like the roman period and stuff like that saw them as like noble savages though

00:41:28.820 i think they kind of appreciated the the raw animalism of they did though they did though

00:41:33.600 they did see them as like noble and ethical when in contrast was like how they saw the greeks or

00:41:38.940 the persians or the yeah like the greeks were the source of all their culture but they were these 1.00

00:41:43.160 effete lazy people whereas like the germans were they were animals they were stupid but like 0.99

00:41:49.260 they fought hard so that's nice yeah you can look at our episode on the history of racism to learn 0.99

00:41:55.540 how to be a better get a get a phd in racism to learn how to be racist like a roman like oh my 0.98

00:42:02.040 gosh go what was it go worship your horse god no donkey god donkey god worship your donkey god 0.99

00:42:10.560 antinitis or whatever it was antinitis it was great yeah go ship him that's that that is all 0.98

00:42:17.480 that is left of one man for all of human history is someone making fun of him saying go worship

00:42:22.900 your donkey for being a christian yeah so most people today are sympathetic to the person being

00:42:28.420 they fun of i don't know i look at the picture and i think it's funny and i laugh at him but 0.95

00:42:34.540 okay you think they did a good job with the graffiti i do man like there were you saw some

00:42:42.360 of the even the non-racist drawings i pulled up they're just like they're just funny and also

00:42:47.420 animation has not changed at all among teens with a sense of humor which i find great comfort in

00:42:55.640 that malcolm i do yeah invader zim actually is a high culture hat tip to historical medieval

00:43:04.360 cartooning so you know the the animation style we're talking about there anyway this is very

00:43:10.740 heartening news and we will continue we need like double ice whatever ice is recently somebody

00:43:18.620 tried to run ice over again and got shot and like did they not like are they shocked that it's still

00:43:24.860 illegal to try to run over a law officer like like the likely response of a law officer to you

00:43:30.960 trying to run them over is to shoot you in the face because that should be the response that 0.76

00:43:35.240 law officers have but this is the first time that an ICE officer has shot a migrant oh because this

00:43:43.020 wasn't a protester it was an actual it was a migrant who was here legally as well so like 0.98

00:43:47.520 shouldn't have even tried to escape being an idiot but yeah that was a migrant this time 0.98

00:43:51.620 but until now were they trying to stop the ice official from they were trying to just get away 0.99

00:43:58.160 they didn't want to be pulled over i guess okay so yeah this this this is the first time i'm aware

00:44:03.460 of all the other migrants who have been shot were actually shot by protesters by leftists and all of

00:44:08.780 the non-migrants who were shot were shot by ice because the the last lady who got shot she was

00:44:15.180 not a protester i mean she was a protester but like a white lady and then the the people who

00:44:19.940 were shot outside the detention center who people at first pretended were right-wing extremists and

00:44:23.680 then that story just completely got covered up when everybody found out it was left-wing extremists 1.00

00:44:27.180 trying to shoot ice but miss them and shot a bunch of immigrants because they are idiots and that's 1.00

00:44:32.800 what we should expect from them but yeah we need way more of whatever ice is doing like way more 1.00

00:44:37.580 aggressive way more aggressive i think shut down the cia shut down the fbi make super ice super ice

00:44:45.520 super what would that be what is that really cold dangerous frozen gas

00:44:51.620 we need nitrogen we need yeah we don't liquid nitrogen we need we need liquid nitrogen no but

00:44:58.140 i just think super ice sounds cool i think super ice it would really freak out leftists if we're

00:45:02.220 like we're gonna not nitro come on nitro okay that's pretty cool yeah they're bringing in

00:45:07.300 nitro yeah you gotta love you i love you too

00:45:11.700 one thing i i did hear about data centers that i hadn't heard before that's in their favor and i'm

00:45:22.380 like oh my gosh i want a data center near us is that in one county in virginia that i'd heard of

00:45:30.740 before too they have received so much income tax income from data centers they were able to reduce

00:45:38.520 property taxes down to a third of what they were previously which is amazing it was like you don't

00:45:43.760 want data centers in your neighborhood i mean i've we're able to do that i certainly do for real

00:45:48.720 yeah and i've actually seen in local facebook groups all these people trying to organize anti

00:45:54.460 data setter protests, whereas in our area, actually, we have uniquely high property taxes.

00:46:01.720 And I feel like if someone just mentioned just once to these people, by the way,

00:46:07.520 your property taxes would go down. They would come out in droves. They would drive over the

00:46:13.780 protesters with their cars. They would do anything they could. I wish someone would spread that

00:46:19.480 message but of course as we've gone over there's a lot of people like laundering money through the

00:46:24.700 NAACP and through all these environmental non-profits to try to fund anti-data center

00:46:29.100 protests and organizing and movements so it's not gonna happen but still I was so envious when I

00:46:36.620 heard that please they are considering data centers in our area though and hopefully

00:46:43.100 nothing will stop them we'll see i'm trying to get chud tech working live you already built some

00:46:51.100 what did you yeah yeah it's live on the website it's just not populated yet because i built all

00:46:55.020 the things for it locally for people who don't know i'm creating a listing of all of the best

00:47:01.020 ai like right wing really any anything that's made with ai all the best ai movies all the best

00:47:07.120 ai videos all the best packed together products by like average jack offs like me and leaflet

00:47:12.420 and stuff like that mostly because i keep finding small ones that i was unaware of that are really

00:47:18.440 good and i'm just like why isn't this bigger an example of one that's up there right now

00:47:23.640 is i found that somebody taking a mawa you know one of those like online comics oh you showed me

00:47:28.660 this last night it's so amazing who ends up in a furry world right and they turned it into a full

00:47:34.900 movie that is how would you rate the quality of it compared to anime it's as good as any

00:47:41.580 mid-tier like not a naruto filler episode but just a normal naruto episode where like the plot

00:47:49.940 actually moves forward it was that level of good i i started watching it as a joke and then i just

00:47:54.460 watched the whole freaking thing so you were like well check it out you should see what it's like

00:47:57.820 if you want to see it go to rfab.ai and then look for chud tech it's one of the top choices

00:48:05.160 also we invented a system that i just put live it's super alpha right now but it rigs up the

00:48:12.800 models that you can create with the leaflet system so that ai can puppet them to create like

00:48:20.540 fully puppeted characters that you can even do your own streams with i'm like oh let's see how

00:48:25.680 the quality is and then i got invested in it and i watched the whole episode and he's making

00:48:30.000 but the second episode's out already it is i think so yeah so the guy who made this

00:48:36.480 his channel has 5 000 subscribers right like nothing yeah and this shouldn't be the case

00:48:43.300 this is incredibly high quality stuff that's being made here well it's niche this this

00:48:50.220 this small art niche come on furries and anime do you know who our audience is one of the top

00:48:56.920 voted comments under the video where we announced the leaflet device somebody said if you made this

00:49:01.980 for fursuits it would break the u.s economy and that was a top voted comment that's our audience 1.00

00:49:07.060 simone okay yeah well the the the chud world is a world of deviants all right the oh my gosh look 0.99

00:49:18.060 per that mala is it so deviant to just love furries i don't know love is love malcolm 0.96

00:49:25.840 no no no you should not love animals furries are okay actually i'm totally chill with furries

00:49:32.520 yeah what you everyone loves cat girls like don't even i believe that the people who are like

00:49:39.940 i don't find any of this hot at all are king lying they're lying i i i i cannot believe that

00:49:49.040 you can see what are like clearly sexualized images that your brain is going to process as a

00:49:53.580 human and think oh that's like that's not going to activate that section of your brain

00:49:59.900 yeah yeah i mean that doesn't mean that it's like your preferred thing and for the people

00:50:06.600 where it's like their top preferred thing i mean i guess i can see why that would be weird but i

00:50:12.200 mean it really depends on how down the furry spectrum you are where it's like well is it just

00:50:17.420 cat girls or this is actually one of the core problems was ai is if i ever try to make furry

00:50:25.280 art with ai it always makes them way way too animal like like the default no i so agree with

00:50:32.480 you i've been so frustrated with this when i'm trying to make ads for furries on reddit to go

00:50:37.180 to our fab and then it just makes a freaking cat and i said no i said an anthropomorphic cat and 0.61

00:50:42.640 it just draws a freaking cat and i don't want a cat i want an answer i want a sexy woman who has

00:50:48.020 cat ears and some yeah by the way the way you get around that is you do not write answer like ai 0.85

00:50:53.660 can't handle anthro it does it way too furry so what do you say what do you say you're just like

00:50:58.000 sexy woman with cat ears and tail oh okay well but then you don't get the furry look like furries

00:51:06.820 have snouts for example so well then you can you can describe and whiskers

00:51:12.520 and we'll see look i've i've tried i've and i've gotten some good results as you saw which reddit

00:51:20.140 just then summarily bans because furries are inherently sexual i guess and and threatening

00:51:27.120 to people's well-being yeah and here's the annoying part is they will accept the the the

00:51:33.800 the non-successful ai attempts at furries so there's a reddit ad floating around now of a

00:51:43.820 non-anthropomorphic dog running toward a chinook helicopter speaking japanese because that's what 0.70

00:51:51.000 reddit's accepting they won't accept my sexy dog woman walking down a hallway bashing out lice with

00:51:57.620 a baseball bat because apparently that's life-threatening too no it has to be a rescue

00:52:03.180 dog that speaks japanese and runs in the rain whatever anyway i'm not gonna get into it i'm

00:52:08.540 very triggered it'll accept mermaids anyway one of the more successful ones is the viewer this is

00:52:17.920 just to general men who are into like ai the viewer like coming to in a room full of wizards

00:52:22.760 and like one of the wizards like are you okay and then that's like that's what's doing well i don't

00:52:27.500 i don't get it all right you ready two seconds two seconds because i have to get this started

00:52:36.640 always working you will never give up you will never surrender whoa okay oh they look so good

00:52:43.420 oh thank you they're so pretty

00:52:48.840 yeah the biggest oh no no no no

00:52:55.640 them okay Andy here we go Wow is this your favorite food in the whole world

Based Camp - July 17, 2026

Danes Got Rid Of Migrants： What Happened Next Was CRAZY

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