Based Camp - How Jews Circumvent the Rules They Made Up (4K Years of Malicious Compliance)

00:00:00.360 Hello, Simone! I'm excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be discussing

00:00:05.220 ways that Jews get around biblical or rabbinic rules that they have on them.

00:00:13.500 I've been looking forward to this for so long.

00:00:15.940 And I am going to focus on the ones that you are unlikely to know about.

00:00:21.140 So we won't spend a lot of time on the fishing wire around Manhattan or anything like that.

00:00:25.860 We are going to go deep. It is genuinely interesting.

00:00:29.140 i might for a few of them even ask simone if she can come up with how she thinks they get around

00:00:34.660 the rule before we get to how they get around the game and people can leave their guesses in the 0.67

00:00:40.120 comments i love these games i want your jew gold okay fine here now let's go do you think i'm stupid 0.95

00:00:51.120 i know that all jews carry fake bags of gold around their necks to keep the real bags of 0.87

00:00:54.600 gold around their next state hand over the real jew good calf i will note here to everyone who is 0.93

00:01:00.340 like ha ha look at the jews like the them and all of this over strict rule following and everything 0.73

00:01:06.600 like that because this came up for us when i was studying the sabbaths because i was like it appears 0.99

00:01:10.520 that this is one of the ten commandments right you know why are we not following this yeah um

00:01:15.200 and we know that jesus was raised after the sabbaths and that was on sunday so the sabbaths

00:01:20.000 is clearly not Sunday in the Bible, right?

00:01:22.940 Like it's named in the Bible

00:01:24.120 as being definitionally not Sunday

00:01:27.400 and an old Christian thing.

00:01:30.000 So I will voice this all with the caveat 0.99

00:01:33.560 of at least they attempt to follow them 0.97

00:01:37.480 for all the Christians 0.77

00:01:38.400 that don't even follow the Sabbath, right? 1.00

00:01:40.620 Yeah, give them credit where credit is due.

00:01:43.420 I will give them credit there.

00:01:45.180 And the second thing, 1.00

00:01:47.720 the Christians will be like, 0.89

00:01:48.460 well, Jesus fulfilled all the old laws.

00:01:50.000 okay so the rest of the the 10 commandments don't matter anymore oh okay so every one of the 10

00:01:55.540 commandment were still matters how does that work how so that you don't need to murder anymore how

00:02:00.260 how would he have fulfilled no no christian actually believes this is the point yeah but

00:02:03.960 the commandments are just their rules to live by also i don't i don't get right like the joke i'm 0.86

00:02:08.440 making simone is that christians are very hypocritical in the way they treat the 10 0.92

00:02:12.940 commandments and jesus is too autistic for most jokes you know this they they say something they 0.96

00:02:18.380 obviously don't believe which is that jesus fulfilled all of the moral rules tied to the 0.69

00:02:23.500 10 commandments so we can just ignore them whereas they only ignore the one that is inconvenient 0.98

00:02:28.800 within a modern context and that made them look a little jewy back in the day it's just something 0.88

00:02:34.120 that i can't bring myself to believe like the idea that jesus was sacrificed for our sins oh and so 0.71

00:02:41.140 we didn't have to practice the sabbath that one thing there the the sabbath that 10 commandment

00:02:45.260 as well that that one of the ten commandments he was also sacrificed that seems ludicrous to me

00:02:50.860 um if if god thought that these were important back then he probably still thinks that they are

00:02:56.340 important today especially given that jesus also practiced the sabbath and even when he and his

00:03:02.040 followers were questioned on it like when they were picking the grain in the field and they said

00:03:06.600 your your people are doing something unlawful he agreed that they were doing something unlawful but

00:03:11.160 then he made a broader argument that we'll address more in the future. And some Christians will come 1.00

00:03:16.800 to me and they'll be like, well, don't you know that this council said that we don't need to take

00:03:20.400 the Sabbath seriously anymore? Or that we actually, there was one council around the year 300 that

00:03:25.480 said that you were supposed to work on the Sabbath. In which case I'm just like, well, that's why I

00:03:29.860 focus so much on what the Bible says rather than what is tradition within Christianity. What

00:03:34.420 happened to us, I mean, this is only us recently, right? Is we were talking about the Ten Commandments

00:03:38.360 and which ones we didn't follow enough.

00:03:40.520 And when Simone called out this one, I was like, wait, that's one of the,

00:03:44.000 oh yeah, that is one of the Ten Commandments.

00:03:45.600 Why weren't we doing that?

00:03:46.940 And then we went through every line in the Bible that could be used to argue

00:03:50.240 that we don't need to take it seriously anymore.

00:03:52.500 And I just didn't find them very compelling arguments.

00:03:56.120 And so because I had grown up in a society where nobody took it seriously, 0.99

00:04:00.440 I thought it was normal for Christians to not take it seriously.

00:04:03.100 And that's something we're trying to change in our lives. 0.99

00:04:05.280 um and then it'll we'll get on this in the next episode on the sabbath that's not the point of

00:04:11.800 this episode okay so rule number one um you cannot move 2,000 cubits from where you live

00:04:19.980 how do they get around this amount oh you mean on the sabbath okay on the sabbath you cannot move

00:04:26.160 2,000 cubits from where you live but you might need to go to a synagogue or something like that

00:04:34.260 that's 3,000 cubits away, or you may need to go do some tasks that's 3,000 cubits away.

00:04:39.100 How do you do this? And I will note, they do keep the rule that you cannot move

00:04:43.060 more than 2,000 cubits from where you live, but now there's a synagogue that's 3,000 cubits from 0.62

00:04:50.040 their house that they need to go to the next day. They must establish residence as being your 0.97

00:04:54.980 community. So where you live is your community, not your address, like your home address.

00:04:59.600 That's actually partially already true.

00:05:01.540 So that wouldn't get around it at all.

00:05:03.540 Like I'm talking about a scenario.

00:05:05.420 Oh, that it's even outside the community?

00:05:07.320 Yeah.

00:05:11.620 Some kind of metaphorical like tether rope, you know, like oxygen line from the community to the, so you didn't.

00:05:18.980 Kind of.

00:05:20.200 Kind of.

00:05:20.620 You're getting close.

00:05:21.460 Yeah.

00:05:22.820 Okay.

00:05:23.700 So somebody can travel 2000.

00:05:26.400 I'm an audience.

00:05:27.160 You're, you're in this too.

00:05:28.140 They do not change the rule around not being able to travel further from 2,000 cubits from where they live.

00:05:35.160 But their home is more than 2,000 cubits from where they need to go.

00:05:39.540 How do they get around it?

00:05:40.720 Do you leave behind a part of yourself, like a representation of yourself?

00:05:44.840 So like the goal of you?

00:05:46.120 Exactly it!

00:05:46.940 So they change where they live technically to be halfway in between their house and where they need to go.

00:05:55.360 Oh, how do you do that?

00:05:56.840 how do you give a temporary change of address that gets you there okay uh so we'll get into

00:06:02.000 that but first i'm going to give some other rules here so okay where you live on shabbat the

00:06:06.220 malka shavate the place of rest yeah in an opal country this is a circle or share as measured by

00:06:11.520 a compass um two thousand cubits around the spot okay in a town the built-up area counts as being

00:06:16.660 one place houses within 70 cubits of each other are a cluster and you may walk around the whole

00:06:22.380 town past the 2000 cubits no 2000 cubits is 0.6 to 0.7 miles if you're wondering for for context

00:06:29.540 here if you're wondering and you're like wait you can walk all around the town on sabbath but

00:06:35.500 you wait sorry i i know here we don't think that christians are subject to all of these 0.88

00:06:41.880 jews sabbath laws we'll get into that in just a second but um jews clearly believe it and are very

00:06:47.180 very strict about it um well actually that's just a whole other episode that is not for this episode 0.85

00:06:52.080 but um why do they need the ur of that you know the fishing line that goes around manhattan at all

00:06:56.700 if you can travel anywhere in manhattan on the sabbath if you live in manhattan

00:07:00.660 um and the answer is well one because you can't drive a car you are sort of functionally but i

00:07:06.300 guess the subways count i'll add that in post the answer is no by the way specifically because

00:07:15.260 carrying a fair card would be considered carrying something and you would be doing work by walking

00:07:23.380 through a turnstile um but but oh the line around new york is not for moving from place to place

00:07:31.540 it's carrying a thing from place to place which is a separate and additional rule set that they

00:07:36.660 need to find a way yeah i remember reading that part about carrying burdens and we'll get around

00:07:41.280 The next thing we're going to go is how they get around that

00:07:43.840 with things that they actually need, like keys and stuff like that.

00:07:47.940 Keys aren't a burden.

00:07:49.560 Why don't, oh, no.

00:07:51.220 Very strict with the rules.

00:07:52.700 Remember, in the first Sabbath, a guy picked up sticks

00:07:56.820 and literally God said, you got to stone the guy to death.

00:08:00.480 Like Moses was like, they detained him.

00:08:02.420 They're like, what are we going to do with this guy?

00:08:03.700 And God's like, well, of course you beat him to death with stones 0.99

00:08:06.040 because this stuff is very serious for Jews. 1.00

00:08:09.840 Naturally. 0.81

00:08:10.200 Naturally.

00:08:11.280 Uh, so here's how it works. Um, there's two methods. You can be there at twilight. You walk to the spot before Shabbat, stay through buying harassment dusk, declare it your place. You go home afterwards. The center has already moved or you can leave the food there before Shabbat. This is the usual Irva Tushim. You do not have to spend dusk there.

00:08:36.620 the legal idea it's a person's home is where their shabbat food is so the food stands in for you

00:08:43.580 oh and here are the rules okay it has to be enough for two shabbat meals per person who will use it

00:08:53.720 yeah read on the order of six to eight egg volumes um condiment peanut butter oil chocolate

00:08:59.680 spread are common or drink works um and takes less so actually why do they use why is peanut

00:09:05.440 butter the default for this i genuinely don't know i don't think i've seen peanut butter in a

00:09:10.720 jewish meal before it's because it's incredibly calorically dense so to fit the other rule about

00:09:17.800 you needing to have two meals of it you can technically have two meals of peanut butter

00:09:22.160 with like not very much peanut butter um so if you're just eating pure peanut butter it

00:09:29.680 it covers a long thing and then you need to recite a blessing but it gets crazier all right

00:09:36.780 so suppose you're in a community where a lot of people need to do this regularly all right

00:09:42.200 um the community will set up like a little post think of it like a rating nook is sort of the

00:09:48.920 impression i got for what these look like okay rating nook yeah you know like they have like

00:09:54.340 little stands with a house looking thing on it where people go to get books or leave books it's

00:09:59.260 take a book leave a book places oh oh yes like a neighborhood lending library raiding nook okay

00:10:05.620 whatever you want to call it look and these things need to be locked because if a wild animal eats

00:10:09.940 the food then it no longer counts as your place and now all of a sudden you're breaking rabbinic

00:10:15.440 law are we eating the food is this food that people are eating i don't think it's actually

00:10:20.420 really meant to be ever eaten it's more like a symbolic thing i mean somebody might eat it all

00:10:26.380 i'll look it up in post you need to regularly check if it is still edible so people would

00:10:31.800 eat it regularly just practically i imagine usually it doesn't get eaten because that seems

00:10:38.560 i mean if you're buying peanut butter just used for one of these things and it's some part of a

00:10:42.220 community exercise probably just stays there until it spoils but uh presumably a lot of people do eat

00:10:49.840 i don't know i i i think they don't that's my guess if if i was using something like this

00:10:57.060 but they have a secondary skippy peanut butters or whatever shelf stable peanut butter that's

00:11:02.500 where they can take the food and then for anybody walking on a particular trail this is in like more 0.98

00:11:10.360 rural places where you'd have a minion which is like a group of new jewish families that it doesn't 0.97

00:11:14.900 fully matter the point being um is that they'll all have like a contract around like one jar of 0.97

00:11:20.940 peanut butter thing and it automatically transfers ownership to whoever is using the road at that

00:11:27.320 time so they don't need to reset it up for everyone so it's like two atoms sharing an

00:11:35.000 electron for a little bit but then you like move on and i don't know oh this is very strange

00:11:40.040 this is very strange um but if you're not eating i just if you're not gonna eat the sabbath food

00:11:45.940 no i i don't think that if you guys get our weekend episode on this we have a patreon slash

00:11:52.600 substack episode where we argue about this a lot that's our weekend episodes this is what happens

00:11:59.440 if you start going down the path of every rule simone like you tried to do for the sabbath

00:12:04.540 when we had a big argument in our weekend see i was gonna honor the rules i don't i'm very

00:12:09.880 uncomfortable with this rule bending i am it's not rule building it's about interpreting the

00:12:14.660 intent of the rule this is the entire core difference between christianity and judaism

00:12:18.400 um this is what jesus meant when he said the sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath

00:12:24.160 is the christian path is to say what was the intent of the rules and the jewish path is to

00:12:29.620 say what was the and i understand you if you look for the intent of the rules you can end up bending

00:12:34.680 them too much to you end up like most christians today where they're just like i don't know think

00:12:39.460 about God and go to church that day and maybe

00:12:41.460 don't play violent video games. Oh, bending the rules too much, like

00:12:43.220 oh, not only can we use tech

00:12:45.580 and whatnot, but I'm just going to

00:12:47.460 build a video game on the Sabbath.

00:12:49.420 Absolutely! Because I

00:12:51.580 take it to me. That's productive work.

00:12:54.840 Nope.

00:12:56.540 It was me

00:12:57.220 digging around.

00:12:58.000 If you go with that then, Simone,

00:13:01.080 if you go with that, then learning

00:13:03.200 becomes productive work. Then educating

00:13:05.260 yourself becomes productive work. The further

00:13:07.560 you go with your legalism the more you break the intent the intent is are you doing something you

00:13:14.460 wouldn't have otherwise done on that day that's focused on but that's for another video okay

00:13:21.120 this is why you can't go down this pathway sir he stole that bread what do you have to say for

00:13:30.760 yourself. Nope. I'm sorry. Okay. Keep going. Sorry. What was your point there? Just like

00:13:39.560 the answer to my accusation being nope, I find oddly entertaining. I will accept it.

00:13:48.420 That is an acceptable answer. Because if it's designed to help us improve ourselves,

00:13:54.540 doing something you have been putting off that involves a new type of rest pursuit,

00:14:00.680 like something that you wanted to do as a form of rest, is of value.

00:14:05.460 By this, what I mean is you have to ask, why did God mandate a day of rest?

00:14:10.120 Did he mandate a day of rest so we would have a day without technology?

00:14:13.600 Did he mandate a day of rest?

00:14:15.420 Like, what's the purpose of that in our wider lives?

00:14:17.960 Did he mandate a day of rest so people wouldn't have to cook on that day?

00:14:21.520 What's the purpose of that in our wider lives? 0.92

00:14:23.460 Because he mandated the day of the rest of, I think of him as not being an idiotic entity who has some sort of like wider plan for us, for our own benefit. 0.91

00:14:32.800 Again, this is what it means. 0.85

00:14:33.660 The Sabbath was made for man, not made for the Sabbath.

00:14:35.340 So if you make arbitrary restrictions that end up lowering the value of the Sabbath to you as a tool for rest and improvement, then you have lost the purpose of the Sabbath from our perspective.

00:14:50.020 this is why the legalism is so dangerous what we're talking about right here is why

00:14:55.980 if if the point isn't actually the legalism the legalism can have positive externalities i mean 1.00

00:15:01.520 look at all the jewish lawyers who make all that money maybe we'd be good at lawyering too if we

00:15:05.200 i mean look it's working for them they have a covenantal relationship with god the rest of us 0.99

00:15:10.600 are on our own okay they get to play the rules game that's not for us but let's hear more about

00:15:16.680 these rules i'm okay next rule this is unhinged keys oh yes burden okay so if you carry a key

00:15:22.740 that would be considered a uh burden the only thing that you but then you can say but like i

00:15:28.640 see jews outside all the time on the sabbaths and they aren't naked so like clearly you're allowed

00:15:34.540 clothing right and it's like yes you are allowed clothing and some types of jewelry um how do they

00:15:43.180 get around keys how uh well i mean now you can just have a combination lock on your door or you

00:15:53.720 could have a thumbprint so they actually those created a whole other set of problems and we're

00:15:59.220 not going to get because a lot of those were like okay now you're engaging a mechanism and if you

00:16:05.620 engage oh you're requiring the gremlins that make your code lock to work to to labor oh yeah you

00:16:12.040 are kind of making a mechanism work oh oh goodness gracious just don't they don't lock their doors

00:16:17.920 no okay you're allowed to wear clothing yes oh so you it's a key necklace it's like you work

00:16:27.020 keys into your clothing but they have to be like a functional sort of a part of the clothing so 0.90

00:16:33.160 you can like a zipper like a zipper pull it's like a look up a shabas belt it's a s-h-a-b-b-o-s

00:16:41.300 belt oh bb os oh yeah okay and you see the keys actually hold together the clothing

00:16:49.660 right oh good lord i have to yeah it's like using the key as like part of a button or something

00:16:55.940 like that this is adorable oh guys look it's it's uh an attempt was made an attempt was made

00:17:06.740 it's not good looking jewelry but it works what's great is you don't actually have to like

00:17:10.440 get your custom key made into the belt it looks like you can just you you just kind of attach it

00:17:15.120 in with a very cheap looking well the page can load oh for you don't need a security verification

00:17:23.300 judaica world is not okay yeah it looks like a very cheap inexpensive really judaica world do

00:17:32.640 better these are these are the cheapest at least i could use like we have you know like belt

00:17:39.020 attachers for our car that we we could just um cannibalize to make our own shabbos belt actually

00:17:46.020 i have all of these parts at home i don't need to spend how much am i do how much what is this 0.99

00:17:51.780 this is you wouldn't make your own this we have all the parts every single stupid car 1.00

00:17:58.160 this is how you know simone is descended from jews she jew maxes the moment she looks at a 1.00

00:18:03.440 jewish invention she goes i bet i could get that cheaper and without paying someone

00:18:07.740 you're maxing right here simone well i can we have all the pieces at home you too can make your

00:18:14.920 very own shabbos belt at home maybe we should do for uh no simone the point is the sabbath is made

00:18:23.260 to help you rest in a way where you otherwise wouldn't we both did projects that day that we

00:18:29.760 had been putting off for very very long times that were both tied to self-improvement i studied

00:18:35.180 the bibble i don't know what you're talking about i did some bible study and i also made a game

00:18:39.780 but i also made a tower it's an awesome game it actually looks pretty cool it's a game about

00:18:46.120 techno puritans so it's also meant to spread the message oh i see yeah so you're just spreading

00:18:51.480 the good word you're a tower defense game on one side it was about techno puritans on the other

00:18:56.100 side it is about committing genocide so perfect great well look the the bible is also very much

00:19:02.820 old testament god is all like hey guys hey guys let's do a genocide and and they were like because

00:19:08.520 it was a guy whose show we were on and he goes well your ideas are very un-christian what are

00:19:12.960 what are these ideas around like genocide or like um you know uh sterilizing a population i'm like

00:19:18.220 i'm pretty sure saul would like to have a word with you i mean he sort of had his life ruined

00:19:23.900 when god was mad at him for not and note here when people are like war was just like that back

00:19:28.540 then i'm like uh no you can't use that excuse because it wasn't just they happened to do war

00:19:34.700 that way god actively decided to punish him for not doing war that way right but that's a whole

00:19:42.300 other thing um i think you could be like well god grew up morally from the old to the new test what

00:19:47.340 are you talking about man like clearly that's not a i don't think that these people really believe

00:19:53.080 in god they believe in buddy christ like it's it's literally the guy from dogma that's buddy

00:19:57.580 christ that is who they worship is the crucifix while it has been a time-honored symbol of our

00:20:02.720 faith holy mother church has decided to retire this highly recognizable yet holy depressing

00:20:09.100 image of our lord crucified christ didn't come to earth to give us the willies he came to help us

00:20:16.540 out he was a booster so it is with great pleasure that i present you with the first of many revamps

00:20:23.580 the catholicism wow campaign will unveil over the next year i give you the buddy christ

00:20:29.660 not like the maximally good entity right you know yeah um i i i feel i have far more theological

00:20:46.360 kinship with jews who try to follow all these rules than with christians who are buddy christ

00:20:52.880 type right totally 100 i ignore everything in the bible it's not you know anyway so uh at the door 0.68

00:21:00.840 it gets picky many guidelines say you do not pull the key off in the street uh walk the last steps

00:21:06.600 with a loose key in your hand and step into the house the last bit would be carrying so uh the

00:21:11.900 typical procedure no you don't with that with the the belt you just yeah you gotta keep the key on

00:21:18.320 the belt while you turn the lock yeah um or take the belt off at the door use the key then put the

00:21:25.000 belt back on it's like traveling and basketball you've got to be very careful not to hold the

00:21:31.000 ball while you're walking good or you end up incurring the the rules yeah careful guys don't

00:21:36.880 at a shabbat shabbat but you often notice this because a lot of neighborhoods have aruvs those

00:21:41.740 fishing line things that i mentioned we'll talk about later um that uh i do yeah well i do want

00:21:47.840 to be briefed on those it's i i want to know more about them okay next this one i think you'll find

00:21:55.520 very fun and it shows that my work around through the rules or at least the spirit of the rules are

00:22:01.260 not that out of line with some of the jewish ones so there is something called shinui which means

00:22:08.440 doing the act in a weird way so that's cute okay a torah level uh shabbat labor is defined as doing

00:22:18.500 the act in the normal weekday way no when i said don't do rote entertainment but you can do new

00:22:26.140 forms of entertainment to do it in a weird way yes this is exactly what i'm talking about this

00:22:30.580 is why i said when i was coming up with the laws for this and we'll come up with this later uh like

00:22:35.260 how to do this if you spend your week as a neuroscientist uh you know um working uh on on

00:22:44.040 crazy inventions at home you can't be a neuroscientist working on crazy inventions at

00:22:48.300 home on shabbat but if you spend your week in a lab working on crazy neuroscience inventions and

00:22:53.060 you want to work on your own thing at home then that would be allowed but if you're in a lab during

00:22:57.360 it's it's about the type of thing that you need rest time to do okay or at least that's how we

00:23:04.840 define it in our reading of the the new testament but anyway a classic example is writing left-handed

00:23:12.460 if you are right-handed pick something up with your elbow or teeth turn a switch with a knuckle

00:23:17.700 or the back of the hand what it does not just describes my everyday experience so i just

00:23:23.000 Yeah, because she can't touch things.

00:23:24.880 You'd have to do it. 1.00

00:23:25.760 Sorry, she's autistic. 1.00

00:23:28.060 Again, Jewish. 1.00

00:23:29.280 And so she struggles with,

00:23:31.740 I know this is a weird thing to say,

00:23:34.200 she struggles with touching doorknobs.

00:23:36.800 And so the way she gets around it

00:23:38.920 is like turning them with her elbows and stuff like this.

00:23:41.180 And she's really masterful at it.

00:23:42.760 Very good.

00:23:43.920 This is my challenge. 0.95

00:23:44.620 Yeah, I can see the inner Jew coming out there, Simone. 0.90

00:23:48.780 Oh, Christ. 0.99

00:23:50.940 So that makes it acceptable?

00:23:53.000 So if they really need to do a work thing, if they do it super weird, like, it's okay.

00:23:57.540 Yeah, so you can't just do it easily.

00:24:00.920 Like, you can't just do anything with your left hand.

00:24:02.800 The writing is the big exception there.

00:24:04.700 It's also debated whether, like, elbow flipping a light switch counts.

00:24:08.660 Some say malaka is the circuit closing, which happens the same way no matter what part of the body hits the plate.

00:24:13.900 So that is not a real shinui.

00:24:16.180 Others, so basically the plate, the electric plate is still hitting in the same way.

00:24:19.760 So even though you used a weird action to do it, it doesn't count.

00:24:23.000 at least they're trying to get the rules right like yeah uh they're rules um so here is an

00:24:31.140 example of where you really see this uh hospitals a jewish doctor or nurse who must use a badge

00:24:36.400 reader elevator button a chart computer presses with a knuckle thimble or back of the hand when

00:24:42.640 a non-jewish colleague cannot do it or if you're sick at home but not in danger but miserable and 0.85

00:24:47.520 you need to turn a light on or the ac in an awkward way if your rabbi holds that electricity 0.72

00:24:52.340 without heat filament is only rabbinic calling a taxi or doctor some allow the phone with an

00:24:58.520 unusual grip um or when there's a serious need so basically you're not supposed to do it like

00:25:03.700 this is one of those like it's bad but it's not as bad so you have to do something do it looking

00:25:09.300 like a goof okay put put the chicken hat on first do a dance then do the thing which is not different

00:25:16.100 from the rules that we came up with uh that we'll have in the full simone said i wasn't allowed to

00:25:20.720 do the sabbath episode unless i had a different episode on this and now i'm realizing this is

00:25:24.940 probably going to be two episodes at least um because there are a lot of these rules i love

00:25:30.040 these rules these are so fun they're pretty endearing actually um they are they're they're

00:25:35.500 also very different i mean as i've pointed out the relationship that i think christians are called to

00:25:39.740 have with god and i think this is why there's such a focus of the idea of the father right is it's

00:25:45.240 like a parent who's giving you a set of rules um whereas with jews it's like a contract and that's

00:25:52.440 why uh and it might be a contract you have with your parent like i as a parent could treat the 0.95

00:25:57.580 rules i have with my children as if they were contractual with some hypothesis that might lead

00:26:02.700 them to be better when they grow up right um you know they can find a way around my rules because

00:26:07.000 i haven't been strict enough then no it is 100 our attitude with our kids when we make up a rule

00:26:13.080 or when and they you know if find a way to do the thing that we don't want them to do anyway we're

00:26:17.420 like you know what touche you outsmarted me i'm gonna have to make there's a new rule now but no

00:26:21.860 but we don't do it that way and the reason why i don't do it that way if my kids break like if

00:26:26.420 they're breaking the intention i because what ends up happening if you do things that way is

00:26:31.620 essentially what's happened to judaism which is the rules keep piling up for all of the ways that

00:26:37.340 you found to get around it and then the new rule that was really just to prevent the way you found 0.88

00:26:41.920 to get around it ends up applying to a bunch of other things because jews have this mechanism of

00:26:46.500 argument called from the little to the big this is a common rabbinic style of argument which then

00:26:51.760 means that now this little rule that you made up for something small ends up applying to a bunch

00:26:56.220 of other things in a big way and then you get rule explosion right rule inflation rule inflation

00:27:05.460 this one i found interesting this one's called heterom mere rabbinium or the permission of a

00:27:10.840 hundred rabbis yeah so if you can get a hundred to write off on it it's okay this is about having

00:27:17.060 a second wife and you can get a hundred rabbis to say that you get a second wife okay are there

00:27:22.120 cases of this yes but it's not for the reason you think and note it's not just a hundred rabbis

00:27:29.240 okay so you have to get a hundred rabbis from three different countries at least

00:27:35.040 all right so here's how it works and when you would actually want this okay suppose 0.50

00:27:42.820 you are married to somebody and they go into the woods and they disappear oh um and they're never

00:27:52.400 found again um or suppose they go into a permanent coma um or suppose they run away or you're getting

00:28:01.060 get a divorce and they stop responding to all your letters what do you do because you can't

00:28:06.160 get a formal rabbinic divorce totally fair point how is this yeah the way that they handle this

00:28:13.400 is uh the 100 rabbis which used to actually be incredibly hard to do but now it's basically

00:28:20.380 email lists where like a single rabbinic court decides it and then that rabbinic court has like

00:28:24.420 100 rabbis they can email and they're like okay we need your guys sign in on this and it gets

00:28:28.800 signed it on and it happens almost instantly yeah so it's much easier to do now but i found 0.92

00:28:34.960 that one particularly interesting i really like that okay so uh again you're not supposed to like

00:28:42.120 this is too much if somebody disappears you should just say they disappeared okay i'm marrying another

00:28:48.980 woman they're probably dead i can't live my life like this okay fair that that is a lot more 0.91

00:28:54.380 efficient this is the techno puritan versus the jewish way of doing things and it's why we went 0.94

00:29:00.080 when you're right we were deciding between christianity and judaism and you can see in

00:29:04.580 our earlier videos we genuinely uh was a point where we were really thinking about judaism very

00:29:09.120 seriously and uh it was the rules lawyering that was a major factor for me i was just like

00:29:14.680 okay if i'm thinking about like god is actually real how do i think i'm supposed to relate to him

00:29:20.620 And I think that God probably doesn't care that I'm traveling with a key accidentally or something.

00:29:27.400 I don't think that like in the cosmic order.

00:29:30.540 I'm pretty sure the burden carrying just was a thing that people did for work.

00:29:36.340 You know, they're delivering grain or something.

00:29:39.160 I don't think that was outlawed because of just carrying burdens.

00:29:42.380 No, I mean, early Jewish law is very clear.

00:29:43.700 They mean like everything, right?

00:29:45.420 like you were even the one who pointed out that in the old testament it shows them preparing the

00:29:49.760 food beforehand yeah um so that's work i mean that work back you would spend all of your time

00:29:57.620 doing that you would have to mill the grain and then do the thing which is about three hours to

00:30:01.280 do in a historic context for a woman so it made sense back then yeah doesn't necessarily make

00:30:06.180 sense today here i'm gonna do the south park clip about that right what exactly do you suggest we

00:30:11.560 change, Father Maxi? Well, for one,

00:30:13.920 no sex with boys. 0.70

00:30:17.640 The holy document of Vatican

00:30:19.380 law states that a priest, bishop, or cardinal

00:30:21.420 cannot get married. So where are we to get

00:30:23.480 our sex? Well, then, perhaps 0.85

00:30:25.560 we could change the holy document of Vatican

00:30:27.460 law to say that it's okay for a

00:30:29.540 priest or bishop or cardinal to have sex 0.96

00:30:31.420 with women. 1.00

00:30:35.660 The Galgermach vagina is 1.00

00:30:37.520 three feet wide and filled with razor-sharp 1.00

00:30:39.660 teeth. Do you really expect

00:30:41.400 just to have sex with them? 0.98

00:30:45.880 I'm just saying, what works on planet Galgamech 0.96

00:30:48.480 isn't necessarily going to work for the rest of us here on Earth.

00:30:51.760 You see?

00:30:52.600 That's the problem we're having here.

00:30:54.680 Because I think this is why I relate to it this way.

00:30:57.840 But again, to continue here, 0.90

00:31:00.280 you've got the Azat Bit Din, 0.94

00:31:02.960 the Shimada, 0.99

00:31:04.340 and there's a lot of stuff that I think is quite silly within Judaism.

00:31:08.880 um and and we joke about right um the reason some people think that we're overly being

00:31:15.700 sympathetic about this stuff this stuff i think is a different way of relating to your relationship

00:31:21.480 with god it is not something that i actively condemn like aggressive kabbalic mysticism

00:31:26.600 um yeah i want to put these things in two different camps here okay this stuff would

00:31:31.580 be perfectly compatible with a jewish techno puritan right yeah um who's attempting to create

00:31:36.960 something like this um whereas the other things simply wouldn't be um okay so to continue here

00:31:43.440 the ozat bin dim this one was so hard to understand okay a rabbinic court acquires the

00:31:49.940 crop and stores it and distributes it and then farmers are paid for the land not for selling the

00:31:54.700 holy produce as private owners i was so freaking confused by this is this about how to distribute

00:32:01.100 grains on this sabbath or this is not a sabbath rule this is something else yeah okay so you're

00:32:08.900 supposed to leave land fallow i think one in seven years um and what it really was actually

00:32:14.440 more sort of about is like if you had an orchard or something like this or a grain field

00:32:18.940 it was like known in the community historically which ones were the ones that were just growing

00:32:23.840 that year and so you like poor people or whatever people in your community could come and get food

00:32:29.200 from your thing um when they needed it the problem is that doesn't work remotely in a modern context

00:32:35.800 okay so imagine if one in every seven years you had a giant industrial orchard okay and you're

00:32:44.980 like i'm uh gonna leave it fallow so people can come and pick from it right when they need to

00:32:49.140 pick from it right well the vast majority of people who your orchard served live in this city

00:32:55.640 right so there's really only one of two things that could happen one is most of the food rots

00:33:01.100 you get lots of hornets and stuff like that it's bad for everybody okay the second is

00:33:06.420 oh do we have apples on the tree the kids should be picking the apples in the near future by the

00:33:11.620 way right we'll do that when the film crew comes um okay so one is everything rots okay you don't

00:33:17.540 want that the other is is that you have people come in with trucks and they end up picking all

00:33:22.540 the food and then they drive to the city and then they sell it and then they make all the profit

00:33:26.060 which defeats the entire purpose it's now just going to somebody who came to your land with a

00:33:32.000 truck okay i thought anyway that the crop rotation was about letting fields actually like fallow i

00:33:37.960 thought that that wouldn't make sense for orchards that is not what i read yeah um okay so it wouldn't

00:33:42.900 make sense for orchards so i think it probably changes depending on the type of crop doesn't

00:33:45.960 matter point being yeah um what do they do now they do one of two things one is is for that year

00:33:52.540 they rent it to a goy a non-jewish person um but then the other is which i find to be more

00:33:59.040 interesting um is they have sort of a council a court that takes it over for that period and then 0.91

00:34:08.400 that court organizes laborers to go and get the food and then they sell the food at the cost of

00:34:15.380 acquiring the food through special means through special means i don't fully understand basically

00:34:24.800 it's also basically the person the landholder isn't profiting from anything that's the idea

00:34:29.140 because it's understood that basically this food's going to go to waste they're trying to just make

00:34:33.180 sure that it gets to people and so they at least subsidize food to people yeah and i bet it i wonder

00:34:40.060 i'll look at how much cheaper they are on average or how you could get access to this type of food

00:34:44.000 but um very interesting so two quick additions here the textual reason for this explicitly says

00:34:49.340 that it's for like poor people and stuff like this not for the land but obviously this would

00:34:54.560 have a positive effect on the land and that might be why it evolved as a tradition the second thing

00:35:00.160 is where you would buy something like this it is only a rule for jewish farms in israel so you

00:35:07.060 wouldn't see these in the united states but in israel there's ways for grocers to buy this type

00:35:12.340 of food anyway next one here i told you we're gonna go into ones that you haven't heard of

00:35:16.220 frequently today so weird yeah the eruv okay so this one really confused me it took me a while

00:35:23.580 to get my head around right all right so there's a number of jewish festival days where you can

00:35:32.260 only cook food that's going to be eaten on that day okay it's so you don't do a bunch of extra

00:35:38.380 work like you're not doing bakery work or you're not doing meal prep for the week or anything like

00:35:42.260 that like you can't have leftovers whatever you're making that day is yeah it's sort of like a sabbath

00:35:47.560 but with the condition that you can cook food for that day okay now but only that day but only that

00:35:53.360 oh uh these days are variable though um and so they can land right before the sabbath now this

00:36:01.800 creates a problem because oh dear right because if it's the friday before the sabbath well but

00:36:08.420 But then can't you just make your Sabbath food on Wednesday or Thursday?

00:36:12.920 That's what I would do, frankly. 1.00

00:36:15.320 I'm like, oh, but we have rules that Jews don't have.

00:36:18.600 So keep in mind, we are allowed to reheat food. 1.00

00:36:21.780 And Jews, if they're reheating food, they have rules like, 1.00

00:36:24.980 so there's this Jewish invention, which is a thing that keeps water boiling. 1.00

00:36:29.000 So you boil water before the Sabbath,

00:36:31.340 and then there's a special device that keeps it boiling overnight

00:36:34.280 and throughout the next day so that you can use it when you need to use it

00:36:37.600 without reboiling water i thought there were other things were like your oven was

00:36:43.900 or a casserole at a certain time yeah like everything's just set to a timer and so you

00:36:49.120 you didn't do it then it was all set before so that didn't work right so that's what i thought

00:36:55.060 i saw in some orthodox houses yeah i figured this would be easy but they i don't know for somebody

00:36:59.480 it was a major issue that you not leave food sitting for two days probably a bigger issue

00:37:04.540 before refrigeration um but do you know how they got out of this

00:37:09.360 no i i would just assume that they have to eat very shelf stable foods on that sabbath

00:37:20.220 so if they take something cooked and something baked from the previous day okay say something

00:37:28.200 words on it so thursday and then what they make on that thursday counts as the meal

00:37:34.200 for that friday or maybe not this was incredibly confusing to me when i was fact checking with ai

00:37:40.560 it might be just a ritual that you do on thursday that then allows you to cook more on friday

00:37:46.280 it's unclear the jewish rules are very complicated and what they make on that friday they're not

00:37:53.300 allowed to make on the sat on the sabbath because they already got the work that they were going to

00:37:58.720 do on that festival day out of the way the day before by saying a special prayer and making the

00:38:03.140 that just seems like deleting the rule because then they're just it does simone

00:38:10.920 i don't i don't like that one as much i don't like that one at all no just eat wednesday's food

00:38:16.940 on saturday if it has to be cold it's cold but like we've all made it we've all done it before

00:38:24.420 like in college it's not like it's hard well okay interesting yeah my least favorite so far

00:38:32.540 yeah yeah um okay so here's another one and i didn't even know about this rule okay um this

00:38:39.260 is called bishel akum so did you know that while this is not in the torah by rabbinic decree in

00:38:46.020 the talmud jews are not supposed to eat what is it i think it's like a full proper meal 0.99

00:38:53.400 that was cooked by a non-jew um really no i mean how would you ever travel 1.00

00:38:59.520 so there are ways around it okay um can you guess what they do to get around this one 1.00

00:39:06.080 um i know you know how you used to take like hot sauce with you to restaurants

00:39:11.380 and other seasonings and you would just sort of finish cooking your food at the table you would 0.67

00:39:17.020 like that's a better answer than and so i feel like that way a jew cooked it like i mean assuming

00:39:22.000 you're jewish and then you're finishing your food at the table you know you just like add

00:39:25.560 you have some a little bit of salt a little bit of pepper or maybe you like add a hot sauce to it

00:39:29.060 anything with a dip you're partially yeah like you brought your own dips with you like yeah

00:39:34.340 so i go to a restaurant and this is how i would handle it if i was a j i'd be like well salsa

00:39:39.900 right so salsa and the chip i put the salsa on the chip so oh you've already you've already

00:39:46.680 yeah so basically or you order the hamburger with everything on the side like i do because i need to

00:39:53.700 weigh everything separately and then you you assemble the burger so you did some of the work

00:39:59.340 there you know you did the assembly yeah yeah or you could just go to like hot pot um places where

00:40:05.180 you actually right that's what i would do so this everything you're saying is the way i would do it 0.69

00:40:09.200 it's not the way they do it oh although they go as a similar rule uh which is to say if a jew

00:40:13.720 participated in the cooking it counts and so what you have is you will have kosher uh restaurants 0.67

00:40:20.280 where a jew turns on like the ovens at the beginning of the day and i'm like that kind 0.77

00:40:26.200 of defeats so the reason this rule exists oh my god i wonder if there's like the oven turning on 0.76

00:40:31.080 jew who just like goes from restaurant to restaurant and you know hey guys turns on the

00:40:35.480 oven i'm sure there are in some communities yes this is a real job and it's called a 0.82

00:40:42.480 magician or supervisor in a kosher restaurant hotel or kitchen or catering hall with non-jewish

00:40:49.140 cooks the magician often arrives before everyone else unlocks the kitchen and lights every cooking 0.72

00:40:54.300 fire ranges oven grills etc there are two types of setups the mash magician tindi which is a full

00:41:00.520 time in the kitchen all day and the yosha vicious who drops in and out more common in factories

00:41:06.460 they light boilers and pilots etc wow get your oven jew your oven jew restaurant turning on 0.70

00:41:15.400 um so uh this is now note here this one really gets me okay um and the reason it gets me is 0.66

00:41:23.380 because it goes against the exact purpose of this rule which is why i'd say i really hate

00:41:28.140 rules lawyering and instead focusing on the purpose of the rule okay if you read uh the

00:41:32.920 old testament there are so this is even the parts that like all the christians read i've read you

00:41:36.700 see this throughout uh lots of rules um lots of times when jewish people were tempted by pagans

00:41:41.480 who were living among them and then they they went out and they started to do more pagan things

00:41:45.080 and they intermarried a bunch and there had to be rulings against this and so it was just like look

00:41:49.180 the more you interact with these pagan people the more you become like these pagan people and that's 0.62

00:41:53.140 really dangerous and so um the distance throughout this is not a crazy takeaway that somebody had 0.96

00:41:58.380 uh it's something i would have thought reading it and it's a rule that if the techno puritan

00:42:03.320 community ever becomes large enough uh to mostly just interact with other techno puritans i would

00:42:10.540 be very comfortable putting as a a general rule that you should not be eating or socializing with

00:42:18.540 non-techno puritans unless it's for career purposes um or converting somebody or bringing 0.58

00:42:24.940 in a new potential spouse to the religion but for them this is about not marrying out of the

00:42:29.640 community stuff like that right like it's about not socially so if you're doing it in restaurants 0.91

00:42:35.060 and stuff like that specifically so that you can share food and proper meals with non-Jews 0.99

00:42:42.220 you're you're breaking the point uh I didn't realize that was the point I just figured 1.00

00:42:48.560 like if someone if a non-Jew is preparing food for you they're way more likely to put 0.98

00:42:54.760 say cheese on your hamburger by mistake or butter god forbid I mean keep in mind you have 0.98

00:43:01.720 most most restaurants that make hamburgers or steaks or whatever are going to use at least the

00:43:07.820 higher high-end ones are going to use a nice butter in their pans and if you're cooking steak

00:43:13.480 or hamburgers or meatballs and stuff with butter then you're breaking one of the key rules so i 1.00

00:43:19.300 thought it was more just that you need to make sure that a jew is involved in the cooking process 0.94

00:43:23.940 because otherwise you're not you're likely to have broken some major rules that they just don't you 0.77

00:43:28.760 know someone benignly wouldn't know that they're breaking yeah uh that's not why it exists but this

00:43:34.080 is this is where it gets um yeah interesting to me i i this one was was i was like uh that's not

00:43:41.980 good and that shows exactly the worst way a rule can break yeah actually um and it's why i wouldn't

00:43:48.140 want that to be if i was saying generally you know socialize with our own people so you do not get

00:43:54.740 attempted um especially don't make it easier to socialize then don't do that especially for younger

00:44:00.480 people i would argue right you know um this is where it gets really dangerous for younger people 0.92

00:44:04.800 they consume too much content from outsiders they uh and and obviously for jews it's an extra 0.94

00:44:09.780 when people talk about like woke jews ruining everything these are almost exclusively jews 0.76

00:44:15.400 who have left the jewish community right like they are reformed jews okay maybe they're still 0.92

00:44:19.800 in the jewish community but i mean like they they've stopped following most of the rules 0.54

00:44:22.680 they become what we would consider like a unitarian universalist christian or something 0.99

00:44:26.760 like that so like all of society is hurt when jews get pulled by the dark side because then 0.99

00:44:33.780 they go and run some movie studio and make a bunch of what was i gonna say i was gonna say 0.99

00:44:39.620 like uh gay cowboys eating pudding movies and we have to consume that slot then you know 0.94

00:44:44.800 no good for you to judge my womanly soul the goddess flames that burn in my memory 0.99

00:44:52.000 aren't dark dare you call them dark here lies the goddess truth of my body oh brother the goddess

00:45:01.280 that cries freedom here is the goddess truth of my womanly being you are my blossom my flame when

00:45:10.180 we make love it's like the sun is right outside the door then make love to me right now do you 0.96

00:45:17.420 have any pudding left i ate all mine up silly sorry well why don't we just explore our sexuality 0.96

00:45:23.540 oh good idea let's but to continue here okay inheritance so we're gonna do the inheritance

00:45:31.680 walk around so daughters get a share so according to like if you do the correct or you know by the

00:45:39.560 bible numbers 27 daughters of zephalim and numbers 36 torah inheritance is through the male line with

00:45:47.020 a limited exemption when there are no sons. The later documents are tools to honor this. Okay, so

00:45:52.000 what do you do, right? Now, if you live in a society where everybody only passes inheritance

00:45:57.480 down through their sons, I think that that can work because then women have to get married 0.99

00:46:00.920 to get anyone's inheritance. And the inheritance they get is through the family that they're 1.00

00:46:05.840 joining, right? But today, a lot of Jews don't want their daughter who is unmarried or whatever

00:46:13.800 to starve to death i know so stupid that's exactly the daughters that should be starving to death 1.00

00:46:19.660 um but they uh they get around this how do you think they get around this 1.00

00:46:23.100 um they look as soon as you're gestating in your mother's body as a little girl you have all the

00:46:33.620 eggs you're ever going to have and some of those are going to be boys so we count those as the

00:46:36.700 next generation of boys that are sitting this one's way simpler and easy to do oh then okay

00:46:41.940 tell me just give them the money before you die oh well yeah like a lot of rich people do with

00:46:48.940 their kids to avoid taxes yeah taxes and probate and all that other sky taxes here okay so when i

00:46:56.940 was going over it this is the one that it ai said that we got the most wrong uh specifically there

00:47:03.000 is another mechanism which is a father will say that i owe my daughter a huge sum worse more than

00:47:09.640 my entire estate and uh the daughter can then claim this against the sons if they don't give

00:47:15.780 her 50 of the estate when he dies um and this is called a shar shazi zakar i i can't pronounce any

00:47:27.160 of these jewish words okay so now we're going to talk about a halakhic prenup an rca bda a

00:47:34.720 agreement okay before the wedding the husband signs that if the marriage is over according to

00:47:40.540 a bit din he will pay a high amount of support or get until he gives a jewish divorce so note here 0.62

00:47:48.880 a jewish husband can just decide he doesn't want to get divorced right like this is a problem for

00:47:54.980 jewish communities it's such a problem for jewish communities that one of the things that orthodox 0.57

00:48:00.440 jewish women have taken to do have you heard of this simone no okay so suppose there's a guy

00:48:07.360 who tells his wife i just won't divorce you uh even though the relationship's clearly not working

00:48:12.780 and um she's in a really bad place and the other women in the community are very distressed by this

00:48:18.340 what can they do threaten to not have sex with their husbands exactly what they do okay they do 0.79

00:48:27.160 the entire Orthodox Jewish community of women will do goes on a strike, 1.00

00:48:31.380 a sex strike. Um, wow. Like that famous Athenian play. 1.00

00:48:35.980 That's what I was. Yeah. I was thinking about that. What is it?

00:48:38.840 Areas, I'm not going to remember it, but this is too highbrow for our audience.

00:48:43.860 Too highbrow, too highbrow. That's you get the reference. You can comment.

00:48:47.840 You can comment. Okay. Um, but anyway, they, uh, they,

00:48:53.480 they go on sex strikes and it's meant to pressure the other men to force the guy

00:48:57.980 to give the divorce papers um but there's a type of prenup that they can also do which holds to

00:49:05.700 jewish law where the guy has to pay her 150 every day or some like large amount or something like

00:49:10.280 that we haven't seen that large it must have been a large amount in the past um to to her every day

00:49:15.100 that he doesn't obviously a problem of inflation hits maybe they need to attach them yeah but

00:49:21.740 another fun marriage one i'm joking about this being fun here is given that you need the other

00:49:27.900 party what do jewish people do like recently a lot of young jewish men went to war um a lot of

00:49:35.940 our fans of our show went to war and they have since come back safely many of them i think all

00:49:41.180 of them actually which is very good to see um so i saw one of them on our paid subscriber call

00:49:46.940 yay okay good right so yes and he had just had a son so he was asking questions about that he's

00:49:53.240 like i'm going to war i may not be coming back i just had a son do you have any advice i was like

00:49:56.580 holy like it's really i know everybody acts like the whatever but like they they were in a tough

00:50:02.680 spot to to have to deal with a hostile group that was like raiding their country um but they dealt

00:50:10.400 with it and are continuing to deal with it and i'd note here if mexico did to us what was done

00:50:19.260 to israel on october 7th we would absolutely be doing the same thing to mexico and i would note

00:50:26.280 here where people believe well they treated gaza we have done a lot to mexico that israel did to

00:50:33.060 gaza we took a land from them you could argue with an unfair war in fact i i'd argue that we're

00:50:38.420 sort of in a worse moral position vis-a-vis mexico than israel was vis-a-vis gaza because 0.69

00:50:44.200 they're regularly sending you know aid and basically supporting the population there which 0.88

00:50:48.240 is we're not doing with mexico and if you're like well it was basically an open-air prison it's like

00:50:54.520 well okay what about the wall that we tried to build around mexico right like you can say the

00:50:58.300 same thing um the the anything can be stretched to mean that when you go with the loose definitions

00:51:04.340 that have been made around Gaza.

00:51:07.380 What I will say is that if you're asking

00:51:10.380 why are you so pro-Israel,

00:51:13.460 it's because of the allies that we have right now.

00:51:17.100 They're the one that's still going to be relevant in 50 years.

00:51:20.500 Europe's not having kids and is replacing their population.

00:51:23.340 Canada's not having kids and is replacing their population. 0.58

00:51:26.440 So they're not relevant to us in the long term.

00:51:29.460 um but israel is a country that is high technology and high birth rate and better

00:51:37.760 when contrasted with countries like canada and europe that are willing to let other countries

00:51:42.340 abuse them uh harvest their resources with no repercussion israel actually punishes bad actors

00:51:50.640 and people who f with them which is something we need to see more of in the global stage

00:51:56.240 um but anyway so one of these guys uh what do they do for their wives before they leave for war

00:52:02.360 freeze their sperm no they give provisional divorce papers oh that's sweet so if they go

00:52:10.060 missing in action so if they go missing in action it's so dark but also that is very dark right

00:52:17.320 unless like i don't know unless they don't want them to remarry in which case presumably they

00:52:23.540 won't do that but yeah i guess they want them to remarry for the sake of the kids

00:52:27.540 and i'm surprised that there would be that many men who'd be comfortable with their wives

00:52:32.460 remarrying i guess but whatever um them

00:52:38.340 so this one was also very hard for me to figure out okay this was around wine okay so wine that

00:52:50.580 has been boiled or flash pasteurized mashulva may be handled by non-Jews uncooked wine generally

00:52:58.440 may not wait wine isn't normally cooked is it like pasteurized Jewish wine is normally cooked

00:53:05.840 and we'll get into what does that classical flavor it does and wine connoisseurs don't like it but a

00:53:13.100 lot of wine that you get at a store has actually been cooked so that Jews can get into this wine

00:53:18.380 oh my gosh next i mean i guess we're never in liquor stores or whatever but if you if you go

00:53:22.620 to a store you can find they'll have like a thing that said we'll get into it okay so gotta look at

00:53:26.860 that that's so interesting so wine used to be used for pagan libations and then a later layer social

00:53:34.200 mixing cooking was taken to ruin it for the ritual so the idea was that cooked wine couldn't be used

00:53:40.960 for pagan rituals dude that's so fun just sticking it to the pagans i like this one yeah all right

00:53:47.540 So, to go into this more, rabbis then needed to add a fence. 0.72

00:53:55.660 So, ordinary wine for non-Jews, even if nobody saw a libation, is treated as suspect.

00:54:01.080 Because you don't know if they've used this for a pagan god.

00:54:04.840 And keep in mind, from a Jewish perspective, a lot of Christian ceremonies use wine.

00:54:11.880 I pointed this out as well. 0.88

00:54:13.500 Yeah, so, even dealing with the Christians, they've got to worry about this. 0.96

00:54:16.480 although typically we don't take the same wine that's used in communion and then use it at a 0.86

00:54:20.940 restaurant but i guess that used to be more of a problem so later when open idolatry faded the

00:54:26.320 fence was kept as a partial social barrier um basically don't linger because it made it harder

00:54:34.700 to drink wine with non-jews for a period which was important because like suppose you've got 0.98

00:54:39.620 young people of different genders drinking a lot of wine and one of them's non-jewish 1.00

00:54:44.340 and then you end up with a non-jewish husband in the community and that could create problems 0.55

00:54:48.400 um or baby mommy or whatever right so that's that's why they they moved it to cooked wine 0.80

00:54:54.480 so okay how does this work now uh uncooked kosher wine non-mishra so a jew must make it a bottle it 0.98

00:55:00.340 and the bottle is uh open you pour it if a non-jew was part of the making it or pours it

00:55:05.840 um or sometimes even gives it a significant nudge many authorities claim it is now suspect

00:55:11.480 it's now forbidden to drink so uh why because they put pagan wine they may have accidentally

00:55:18.920 treated it as jesus's body they may have accidentally done a a pagan ceremony was it

00:55:24.100 okay um wait just so just like does christian count as pagan here what's going on well so

00:55:32.140 you got to keep in mind from a jewish perspective christians are policyist often um because when

00:55:38.800 You mean, when you say pagan ritual, you mean like, like used in a Catholic church service.

00:55:44.760 Don't they have special wine for that?

00:55:47.040 Most, look, so you've got to keep in mind, um, from our perspective, from a techno-Puritan perspective, 1.00

00:55:53.960 I actually agree with Jews on this. 0.98

00:55:56.020 Okay, so this is like, obviously, I think that if you treat Jesus as God and as a totally distinct entity, 0.98

00:56:04.500 but also the same entity. That's just multiple gods, but you defining it as not multiple gods.

00:56:11.240 You saying, no, but I have defined it as not multiple gods, which to me is just wordplay,

00:56:17.200 right? So this is another weird part of technopuritanism. A lot of people wonder why we,

00:56:21.280 but I just can't get over that. That's policyism. So I can see why Jews feel this way.

00:56:26.940 But most Christians wouldn't feel this way. And this is again, one of our weird, overly strict 0.95

00:56:32.960 things about some parts of the bible um but to continue here uh wineries run the wine through

00:56:41.160 a heat exchanger which is called flash pasteurization up to roughly 175 295

00:56:47.200 fahrenheit for a short time and then labels will say mefushal um that you can find on many wine

00:56:55.500 bottles we've got to look for that next time now we'll end with should we wrap this one up here

00:57:04.340 and do a separate episode on this because i was going to get into the weird sex stuff um well

00:57:08.400 let's do the weird sex stuff on the next one but can you tell me about the wires before we before

00:57:14.400 as our as our last little thing because i don't i don't remember i just remember that they they need

00:57:20.260 a wire around a thing but i don't remember why you need a wire around your community say

00:57:26.020 okay so what does it keep you safe from what does it do you are not allowed to work 0.63

00:57:31.200 on the status right yes right and jews love categorizing things so they categorize 0.99

00:57:38.860 systematizers just like the rest of the autists that are functional 1.00

00:57:42.120 this is why you have kids with a jewess and then all of your kids line up their toys 1.00

00:57:48.060 by size and color and that's her favorite game makes me so happy absolutely go screw yourself 0.97

00:57:55.260 so cute it's so cute this is you see she even likes this behavior oh come on you do too when

00:58:02.500 you come upstairs and they're so weird weird little cubies i love them so much but more often

00:58:10.180 than not they're more backwards more often than not they're ready to jump on oh yeah more often

00:58:14.120 Even though not, our house is just a tripping hazard.

00:58:17.520 And screaming.

00:58:18.500 The other day, it was so funny.

00:58:20.120 I come into the room and one of my kids is dressed up.

00:58:22.500 And I don't know if it's genetic or something like that.

00:58:24.500 He looked like he was in Pictus war paint.

00:58:26.600 He had taken a marker and told Simone that he wanted to go draw something.

00:58:29.920 He wanted to take an art break from homeschooling lessons.

00:58:32.640 So I come in.

00:58:34.120 He hasn't drawn a thing on the whiteboard.

00:58:36.160 He was looking in the mirror and he had drawn like lines around like his eyes and then like

00:58:40.040 things all over and then a rib cage on himself. 0.98

00:58:42.320 So it looked very Pictish.

00:58:44.120 Did you get any pictures of it?

00:58:45.480 Oh, I have pictures.

00:58:46.700 Yeah, hold on.

00:58:47.940 And the whole time he's going,

00:58:49.280 I come in the room, he's just screaming at the top.

00:58:52.620 He's like,

00:58:53.040 Yeah, hold on.

00:58:56.760 You're pulling it up?

00:58:57.560 Yeah, I am.

00:58:58.180 I have it right here.

00:58:59.320 Okay, okay.

00:59:00.000 I'll share my screen.

00:59:05.100 Yeah, this is him homeschooling after.

00:59:07.900 But he just, he'd completely,

00:59:10.080 and it wasn't just his face either.

00:59:11.860 it was his um his stomach too the lions around his eyes he's so proud of himself yeah he was

00:59:19.660 very he was very pleased with himself just like constantly crazy boy that's our boy

00:59:29.360 our little torsten you named him torst you named him i we chose this actually this was more of a

00:59:34.960 me name torsten savage because torsten was my old family name so yeah but now he's got his little

00:59:41.240 too scandinavian this one oh getting that off was a doozy that was i don't think they'd fit well

00:59:47.520 it is actually so we have a number of orthodox jewish friends and pretty much every kid around

00:59:52.860 their own age our kids have played with in their entire life has been orthodox jewish kids um

00:59:57.840 except for true except for the one exception that we won't name well i mean okay whatever um 1.00

01:00:06.340 the the but other than that it's always been um and it's always been a problem because they 1.00

01:00:11.080 are far more naturally aggressive and rough in the way they play than uh orthodox jewish kids 1.00

01:00:16.440 yeah i was just at the mall with our kids and for whatever reason both me the boys 0.99

01:00:25.560 that is like tax torson and octavian and then one orthodox jewish family with three kids

01:00:31.560 were shopping at the rivian store and the tesla store at the same time or fantasizing about cars

01:00:37.340 we may someday afford and they are dressed so nicely the boys are wearing their I can't remember

01:00:44.500 the garments with the the tassel things on them like they're properly like they're they're they're

01:00:49.360 in it to win it and their boys are like you know politely walking around the cars our boys are like

01:00:55.040 in the car like fully trying to drive it away like slamming the doors climbing around I'm like

01:01:01.160 no no no no and there they are these sweet little children just but this is the way we intentionally 0.56

01:01:07.420 raise our kids this isn't like a mistake of parenting it's just a cultural difference and

01:01:11.720 likely a genetic difference between population groups um and and that's why there are different

01:01:16.840 rules for different population groups in different periods um and the set of rules that works for one

01:01:21.920 people isn't necessarily going to work for another people i would personally find the jewish system

01:01:26.040 it would not be restful to me i'll tell you what sabbath would not be restful to me if i did it in

01:01:29.700 the Jewish way. Um, it would be a complete nightmare, um, that I would not look forward 1.00

01:01:34.060 to at all and would just make me less productive. Um, and I'd see it as like a duty rather than a

01:01:39.080 gift. And I think it's very important to organize the Sabbath that you see as a gift that you are

01:01:43.620 excited for. Yeah. I mean, it, it, in the end it is a cessation, um, but it needs to be a real

01:01:52.740 gift. Something you are actually excited for in the way that you structure it. Um, a real rest.

01:01:57.640 no one said that you're supposed to be happy on the sabbath you're supposed to

01:02:02.100 take a beat and that's that's what you're doing that's what we did no that's actually wrong

01:02:06.680 it's a cessation you the point of the rest is your mental well-being that is the point of the 0.80

01:02:15.700 rest that is why god commands they don't say that you are approaching this with jew rules 0.65

01:02:21.420 again come on i gotta talk about the jew gold now i gotta let let out all the jew rules because

01:02:27.500 you got the the jew mindset there god gave this to us to help us god rested on the seventh day 0.50

01:02:36.660 and we do what god did because he's figured something out god didn't do it because he had

01:02:43.720 to do it he did he did it because it was the wise thing to do and now one in seven days he didn't do

01:02:48.440 it because there was fun was involved he did it because he worked real hard for seven days okay

01:02:56.960 then he took a beat i think i i'm glad that i get to 200 300 years from now there's going to be two

01:03:04.620 branches of techno puritanism one that strictly follows the simone rules and one that strictly

01:03:09.300 follows the malcolm rules if you want to see our law and argument about this there are simone rules

01:03:13.500 no i i ultimately came to agree with you and this is why men teach right like this is why we can't

01:03:19.660 let women teach no the big takeaway that i had was basically having when you take malcolm's

01:03:26.180 approach to the sabbath and you're trying to constantly orient with the spirit of the law

01:03:29.640 rather than the letter you have to do a lot more thinking about what actually is in alignment with

01:03:34.700 your religion and what actually is in the spirit of the law and that in itself brings you closer

01:03:40.220 in alignment with your religion requires more moral difficulty yeah then thoughtlessly adhering

01:03:44.720 to a bunch of rote rules and therefore it is better to think about should you leave your house

01:03:51.040 you know so i convinced her by saying my way is actually morally more difficult i i had to tell

01:03:57.360 her it was the harder technically stricter way oh great to be okay with it because yeah you see i

01:04:03.760 used i used what they call i had to learn jew logic i had to uno reverse her with strictness 0.99

01:04:10.200 don't worry it's actually harder don't worry i hate you so much i hate you i hate you i hate you 0.95

01:04:18.060 i did uh my bugs bunny thing there with her yes you did you are look bugs bunny is just repackaged 0.99

01:04:24.720 jack tails and you are just repackaged jack tails so it's harder it's easier

01:04:30.380 on the other side of the branch anyway okay so the arab all right yes so one form of work because 1.00

01:04:37.500 that jews came up with all these types of work is carrying something from one place to another 0.67

01:04:40.980 place okay um any of these that i've gotten wrong jews can talk about in the comments 0.91

01:04:47.620 obviously fake jews who don't really follow the rules they are not going to follow any of these 0.72

01:04:51.880 but i think that if you are actually jew jew uh you are supposed to follow most of these and that 0.65

01:04:59.520 is like part of the jewish identity right and i think you lose i think they're pretty good about

01:05:05.140 it i'm you know he found in the old testament god told the jew to like literally beat a guy to death

01:05:12.420 with stones for breaking these and so if you don't have some like a good rabbinic reason for

01:05:17.580 augmenting them significantly which i think a lot of the reformed jews really don't i think you're

01:05:22.880 still held to them unless you get some like big thing like the jesus arguments which i said was

01:05:26.620 really good jesus used a number of rabbinic style arguments to argue against them which we'll go

01:05:31.700 over in our episode on that he wasn't you he wasn't you and he argued in a jewish fashion

01:05:36.420 against the way that the jews had come to teach treat the sabbaths to argue that it went against

01:05:41.780 the point um but um what they do is they put a wire which is uh okay so how do i do this okay so

01:05:53.120 households put a loaf in one house if she had something and then used a beam and pole wire

01:05:59.620 doorway around so a lane counted as one domain okay so i had to look this up to get a clearer

01:06:06.080 description because this is still very confusing to me essentially what happened is historically

01:06:10.740 multiple houses might share their food and if they were sharing their food on the sabbath then they

01:06:18.140 would count as one house then what ended up happening is if you had like a small lane in

01:06:24.100 between your houses what people would do is you could either put a door at the opening of that

01:06:29.460 lane or then just a wire at the opening of that lane and that would count the two houses on either

01:06:36.580 side of that lane as the same house and then it was that ruling that later got extended to all

01:06:41.720 houses in a wired in area king solomon is credited was requiring the food share so people would not

01:06:50.940 forget the origin of the ban a city or of a committee of leases or gets permission for

01:06:56.580 utility poles string fishing etc line or wire above head height um and checks it every friday

01:07:03.460 and then publishes that your roof is up as a text to everyone especially like after a storm or

01:07:09.060 something like that so they oh good heavens see look at that they're they're still being careful

01:07:13.500 about the rule if it's broken you're sol yeah that that then you've got to do the t-chain thing 0.99

01:07:20.080 and all the other stuff and all the stuff that you know jews do everywhere else in the world 0.86

01:07:23.380 okay so you don't have to do all these other things if you if no if you live in one of those 0.97

01:07:28.460 depending on so some jews are like the wire doesn't count that's clearly breaking the point

01:07:33.080 of the rule okay so interesting there there is variation in interpretation here some people are

01:07:37.940 like i'm not falling for that that's not so oh is this why some jews actually wear just head

01:07:44.160 coverings like any reasonable person would whereas others wear the wig yeah note here what she's

01:07:51.520 talking about is in one jewish something it's it's written that married women's hair is erotic

01:07:57.480 and so they cover their hair but then a lot of them wear wigs and we always think that that's 0.61

01:08:01.960 the funniest one because it's like wearing fake breasts or something like that and thinking it's 0.92

01:08:07.100 okay and like just tons of jewish women do this um but it's interesting this is an example of 0.95

01:08:12.040 like rule creep that only got into the jewish rule because um in a temple ceremony if you thought a 1.00

01:08:19.240 woman was cheating on you you would the priest would like remove a bunch of mean things to her 1.00

01:08:24.680 and then rip off her her hair pins or whatever that sounds super mean girlish tear her outfit 1.00

01:08:31.680 and then she'd you know walk out and and so it was like well that's what a woman looks like after 0.94

01:08:37.080 they've been caught cheating so like a normal woman doesn't do that and then it became erotic

01:08:40.800 and then it's weird it's just rules piled on rules god never came down and told jews like women need

01:08:47.080 to have their hair covered um like i i believe he did christians though uh is uh women female

01:08:56.440 hair coverings um well i know they're i mean christians are expected to cover their hair

01:09:01.600 in church at least i mean so i'm practicing proper ones right uh i mean yeah i mean i know

01:09:11.760 like trad cats trad cats will cover their hair and i think you were supposed to yes yeah and now

01:09:18.220 like women in fact some women have converted just because they're so into like the cute lacy wig 0.76

01:09:23.700 when are you going to start wearing your bonnets again on you know i i think what i'm more into

01:09:28.660 instead of the bonnets is the middle ages style head covering get a band that's pinned down but

01:09:36.820 it's just it's a lot and i can't wear it if i have a baby on the back of me because i'll pull it off

01:09:41.580 and Tex will pull off any bonnet.

01:09:43.920 Well, you don't have a baby on your back now.

01:09:45.600 So I, as your husband, I'm demanding 0.99

01:09:47.380 that you stop showing your erotic hair to our audience 0.78

01:09:51.640 because they're going to get off.

01:09:55.240 And what am I supposed to do with that?

01:09:56.900 It's so funny the varying things

01:09:59.080 that societies have decided are erotic,

01:10:01.260 like hair, ankles, facial expressions.

01:10:05.220 What are you going to do, you know?

01:10:07.240 Whereas in techno-puritanism,

01:10:08.520 you're just supposed to not dwell on any of that.

01:10:10.320 yeah like maybe just get over yourself focus on what you're supposed to do

01:10:13.560 focus on what you're supposed to do um this is uh in the in the video game

01:10:19.020 uh that i'm making one of the the plots has a uh character who is supposed to be like a

01:10:25.680 effective altruist parody right um and you're a techno puritan wiping out their species of

01:10:31.020 eusocial insects um and one of the factions you can ally with is uh effective altruists who are

01:10:37.000 like they think that they're going to use you to like take over afterwards they're like well we're

01:10:41.440 actually smart we're actually on your level um you know but they start being happy because you're

01:10:45.560 destroying data centers um or as city was a data center and they think that they can manipulate you 0.90

01:10:51.580 and they're very stupid about it but they're they're like oh you know why don't you we got 0.96

01:10:55.920 all these women right that you can sleep with um you know all these poly people who work for us 1.00

01:11:00.840 right like why don't we send them to your ship and you're just very confused you're like wait you 0.94

01:11:04.060 have sex with them but not for breeding and they're like yeah not for breeding and it's like 0.52

01:11:11.320 so what why would you do that and they're like well because it feels good and your character's 0.99

01:11:18.760 like what have you not figured out masturbation yet i'm like why are you doing this this seems

01:11:25.520 like an enormous waste of time um which is genuinely the way i feel about these those 0.86

01:11:31.460 sorts of communities c'est la vie this has been fascinating and i want more and i really appreciate

01:11:38.520 and we're going to get more and very fun and it is uh we'll probably just do the direct next

01:11:43.640 episode on this because i think it's a fascinating topic it's a really interesting topic and i hope

01:11:47.340 you guys uh join us next time to learn more about weird stuff malicious compliance malicious

01:11:54.960 compliance yes i love it thank you malcolm you're gorgeous you are gorgeous and i love you

01:12:01.320 i love you too you'll think i'm even more gorgeous when i'm covered up in a freaking

01:12:06.560 what are those called cowls i don't even know um i just think they're actually the most practical

01:12:12.780 looking head coverings you know what i'm talking about right dinner tonight uh we're doing a

01:12:18.780 reheat of you last night so you did a pretty good job with that yeah and then uh do you want me to

01:12:22.560 thaw out more steaks or are you staked out at this point no i could never have enough steaks

01:12:27.720 i moved to a meal that's like mostly steak the way you cook steak is spectacular you are one of

01:12:35.860 the best steak cookers i have ever had in my life every bite is one of the best things i've ever had

01:12:40.540 that's because you were gifted very good steak by a very generous family member well i think

01:12:45.500 you'll probably be able to do it even when we run through all the steak i don't know about that

01:12:50.720 well we'll find out i guess there's still a lot of it left though because we were sent that giant

01:12:54.840 chunk that i just spent hours and we might make enough money that we can no i'm sure when you see

01:13:02.180 the prices of that stuff like to buy a half of a cow or whatever it is that was sent to us

01:13:08.780 i remember cutting it up on the counter and torsten being like is that muscle like we have

01:13:15.980 on our bodies and i'm like yeah toasty that came from a cow and he's like are you going to eat my

01:13:20.400 muscle toasty you're too small and he's very sweet when he asks these questions he's so sweet

01:13:29.420 when he asks if we're going to eat him and now you have to go to the doctor because you have

01:13:34.280 been putting it off and she's like i'm in enormous pain every day and i was bloody nubs that are my

01:13:38.180 simone then go to a doctor and you're like but doctors cost money and take time and i'm like 0.64

01:13:43.360 yeah simone get your butt to the doctor okay off i go i love you so much love you too bye

01:13:51.580 looking forward to this all day we didn't get our morning time together and i hate that so much 0.96

01:13:55.800 then we only get one hour together now is my video coming through okay yes it looks clear today

01:14:02.720 does not look messed up but you've wanted to do this one for ages so high chair has creeped into

01:14:07.940 your background it's very pro natalist very pro natalist yes yeah all right i'll get i'll

01:14:13.140 get started on this one right away because it'll be a tough one good and he has decided

01:14:20.720 to ambush me are you gonna let me through right you're not gonna jump on me if i try to walk through

01:14:27.060 right oh i'm not leaving you buddy oh no oh no

01:14:45.140 oh no i'm not allowed okay you don't give up you don't give up

01:14:50.260 is that what they is you know it's an ambush when they're yelling ambush

01:14:58.180 oh i'm coming in i think i'm gonna

01:15:02.420 owl attack ready uh oh an hour we beat our kids every day just you see how good we are at it

01:15:20.260 And I...

01:15:21.260 No.

01:15:22.260 And I...

01:15:25.260 Are you trying to say you love Ambushin?

01:15:26.260 Did you know I have a backup plan?

01:15:31.260 Did you know I have a backup plan?

Based Camp - September 30, 2026

How Jews Circumvent the Rules They Made Up (4K Years of Malicious Compliance)

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