Based Camp - Studying Homeless Camps To Predict Future Governments (The Collapse is Coming)

00:00:00.000 this is a very post-apocalyptic friendly village i'm into it well it's in portland

00:00:05.380 i know because they've already destroyed their city well we're going to see little islands of

00:00:12.340 things working as progressives end up bringing cities to a state where the culture within the

00:00:17.420 city is just not continuing not functional as william gibson said the future is here it is just

00:00:22.640 not evenly distributed would you like to know more hello malcolm i'm very excited to be speaking with

00:00:28.560 you today because this morning i think i stumbled upon a model city of the future and it's not

00:00:34.900 some high-tech enclave in tokyo or singapore it is a homeless community in portland established

00:00:41.140 in 2001 wait in portland some woke homeless encampment you think is a model for future

00:00:48.100 this is the future the future eric cartman the kid who jumped 30 homeless people on a skateboard

00:00:55.960 you heard about that they said you could have easily cleared 50 homeless with that jump

00:01:02.460 30 was hard enough oh god it has we gotta get into homeless fights because i want that i want

00:01:08.020 a better understanding of how to fight my homeless

00:01:11.260 you'll see they they they govern these things you'll you'll see uh they live in hand-built

00:01:19.140 tiny homes they use a central building called the commons as a shared kitchen community space

00:01:24.960 de facto courtroom because they're self-governing and they are also self-funded they are not

00:01:33.480 funded by the city and the city of portland has fully sanctioned it and wait so they're homeless

00:01:39.480 but they're self-funded are they funded from things that the members are making or like an

00:01:43.640 member dues member dues dude you gotta pay this is an elite this is an elite farming the homeless

00:01:49.860 homeless community we need a homeless farm here simone

00:01:52.700 are you going to teach us how to farm the homeless they they are they're the elite

00:02:08.140 the elite uh derelict oh my god they're derelict um it has happened the prophecy let me show you 1.00

00:02:16.460 it is a fashion a way of life inspired by the very homeless the vagrants the crack whores 1.00

00:02:26.360 that make this wonderful city so unique um amazing but it's actually kind of important 0.99

00:02:34.120 to look at this community um because as cities begin to lose their capacity to maintain police

00:02:40.360 forces and infrastructure and other basic services we should expect to see more fully

00:02:45.660 sanctioned self-governing communities so it's i think important for us to look at what this

00:02:50.420 is like so just to elaborate on what she's saying here if we look at current trends especially with

00:02:56.800 ultra progressive cities so portland's going to be the first place that needs there's a reason oh

00:03:00.380 my gosh as i go through this you're going to be shocked by like the mentions of all the other

00:03:04.460 self-governing and then alternate homeless encampments and i'm like well are you okay

00:03:09.680 pacific northwest like what is happening there shouldn't be like the the 15 alternative

00:03:15.240 homeless in camp like anyway carry on sorry i don't think this is working for me my therapist

00:03:21.840 said i needed to get out get more exercise i think i'm just gonna go join a gym that's gonna

00:03:26.740 take a lot of panhandling i'm actually rich i have a lot of dollars wait you're rich yeah i have a

00:03:31.640 ton of money i mean i'm rich too really yeah i like grew up in the southwest hills what school

00:03:37.660 did you guys go to cal and gable where no way central catholic anyway so the police just can't

00:03:44.180 act anymore in a lot of places um and we're increasingly seeing this you know if you watch

00:03:48.780 any of these clip channels or anything like that you see people just going out breaking the law

00:03:52.580 the famous clip recently of the guy talking to the uk police officer what do you want me to do

00:03:57.500 about it he's breaking the law and she's like what do you want me to do about it i'm just the police

00:04:02.360 officer breaking the law right now

00:04:04.300 are you serious okay have a nice day he's breaking the law he's breaking the law what am i supposed

00:04:12.880 so we have an increasing breakdown of police forces we have a breakdown of the financial

00:04:18.500 feasibility of cities as the population gets older and more and more money goes into uh you

00:04:24.960 know people who are not putting money back into the tax system and then on top of that you also

00:04:30.700 have the cities becoming more aggressive in the way they spend look at the zorha mandami stuff

00:04:35.540 uh look at what we're seeing in in these woke cities uh and so the idea is is that eventually

00:04:41.040 we are going to need self-organizing micro communities for any semblance of a civilization

00:04:49.060 moving forwards and a lot of people expect these to start with the ultra rich and then go down

00:04:55.580 right like the ultra rich are going to have their gated communities but that's not necessarily the

00:05:00.560 case i mean many of the ultra richest communities are some of the wokest uh most infighting most

00:05:06.940 care any communities on earth i mean imagine having many of them will fall apart more quickly

00:05:12.140 it has to be more of the resilience of it now that's one of the reasons why i was interested

00:05:16.360 in this one because again founded in 2001 it is 25 years old wow yeah that's the thing is this

00:05:25.520 this is again it's a flagship elite homeless community it is is actually very impressive

00:05:30.680 and you're absolutely right some pictures of it yeah i i i i provided some for the class

00:05:37.060 so this is the entrance um of the beautiful flagship village um it is called dignity village

00:05:44.280 you can see these like homemade tiny houses this is their guard building where you have to check in

00:05:51.980 if you want to come in you can kind of see how it is it looks kind of like a you if you squint

00:05:59.920 your eyes and can't see the detail well you might think it's like a campground entrance building

00:06:04.600 a bit rustic looking you know but then you look more closely and you can see how like the woods

00:06:11.140 falling apart in some places it was clearly made with found materials and donated materials there's

00:06:16.560 weird stuff hanging from it so homeless people self-organize this yeah yeah i'm gonna go through

00:06:22.040 the whole backstory see there's a donated couch on it but it has a wheelchair ramp it's accessible

00:06:26.080 all here's their their bathroom and shower area they don't have plumbing keep in mind so everything

00:06:34.060 has to be brought in you know this is again this is a radically independent community and of course

00:06:38.740 that's what's going to fall apart when everything goes to crap right like there will be no electricity

00:06:44.460 there will be no plumbing okay hold on i'm going to stop showing my screen

00:06:48.240 stop stop okay um but yeah so as you can see it's real it is organized people go and they'll do

00:06:57.880 tours and so we're going to learn more about this community we're also at the end going to analyze

00:07:02.980 why this community has survived for 25 years whereas other attempts obviously including the 0.88

00:07:07.900 high profile chop chas also in the pacific northwest what is wrong with you people has 0.56

00:07:12.380 failed so rapidly. And then I actually have some takeaways that can help us personally prepare

00:07:19.000 for when we and our children have to join self-governing communities ourselves,

00:07:24.740 because it's only a matter of time, Malcolm. Our days are numbered. Anyway, I learned about this

00:07:30.220 from this New York Times article called The Homeless Community That Became a Self-Governed

00:07:35.480 Village. Portland's Dignity Village has been a place for people without housing for more than

00:07:39.900 25 years i mean in this article journalist brian barth explores this growing community and here's

00:07:47.060 uh here's how he opens it one evening a few months ago the awkward details of a love triangle spilled

00:07:52.340 out in a humble plywood structure next door to a municipal composting facility in portland oregon

00:07:57.840 the building known simply as the commons serves as the communal kitchen living room and courtroom

00:08:03.460 of Dignity Village, a community approximately 60 people living in hand built tiny homes on the

00:08:10.200 site. All previously homeless, they managed the place on their own, likely the only such community

00:08:15.040 in the country that is not just city sanctioned, but fully self-funded and self-governed. The

00:08:21.340 village council had gathered that evening in the cluttered dimly lit commons to adjudicate a

00:08:25.980 disagreement between a woman, her boyfriend, and an ex. The ex had filed an incident report with

00:08:31.360 the village's security department, which had stated that the current boyfriend had been

00:08:36.060 harassing and intimidating them. The meeting was a curious blend of bureaucracy and bickering

00:08:41.160 friends, much like the village itself, part homeless camp, part homeless services agency.

00:08:46.420 After some debate, a compromise emerged. The ex-boyfriend pledged to stop sending the woman

00:08:50.860 a constant stream of texts, and the two men agreed to avoid each other for the foreseeable future.

00:08:56.180 the words of village elders seal the deal and yes they are referred to technically and in the

00:09:02.420 handbook which i did read as village elders so the weird thing is hearing about this honestly

00:09:09.240 malcolm this sounds a lot more efficient and desirable than a normal court hearing

00:09:13.960 like in a normal city if you and your your your partner are being harassed by an ex like what do

00:09:22.400 you do you have to go to the police department file a restraining this is why we did that last

00:09:25.560 video about like the sovereign citizen courts and stuff like that is eventually we're going to need

00:09:29.340 something like this and it's kind of better than what we have now already which is kind of crazy

00:09:35.140 right because there are people always who are violating restraining orders or you can't even

00:09:40.460 get one or the paperwork gets lost and here everyone knows each other everyone's like dude

00:09:46.160 if they if they see the guy violating it he's out you know it everyone has eyes on him it's like

00:09:52.520 it's like a it's a surveillance state with high tech except not really because everything's

00:09:58.240 biological super interesting to me um but anyway if i were living in this community or a community

00:10:02.840 that was governed like this i would feel a lot more like there would be people out there watching

00:10:07.260 over me and making sure that the rules were enforced than literally the community we live

00:10:11.360 in now which is crazy anyway continuing from the article welcome to our radical experiment

00:10:17.100 in collective self-empowerment and homelessness exclaims the village manual residents are

00:10:22.100 expected to contribute 10 hours of work each week to maintain the village substance use must

00:10:26.940 be confined to private spaces and disputes are resolved by an elected council and i linked in

00:10:32.720 the show notes which are on patreon and substack to their full entrance agreement and manual

00:10:37.540 preview online it includes a medical questionnaire like they're really watching out for you they want

00:10:42.560 to know your food allergies they want to know what meds you're taking they want to know your

00:10:45.880 primary care physician like it's crazy like i feel like we filled out less paperwork to put

00:10:51.560 our kids at daycare so wild and here are their five basic rules to kind of give you a picture

00:10:57.640 of what they're asking of their members so one no violence to yourself or others i think that

00:11:04.540 to yourself part is really cool they really care about the people there two no theft three no

00:11:10.340 public use of intoxicating substances allowed except cannabis in designated areas between the

00:11:16.700 guard shack and the computer lab responsible use of substances allowed inside personnel personal

00:11:22.420 structures no inappropriate behavior in public spaces due to substance use no pushing or sales

00:11:27.960 allowed on site i think that's so interesting this example of what apparently sustainable

00:11:34.920 governance is around basically free use of drugs so like if the u.s were to theoretically enforce

00:11:42.380 rules like these maybe would kind of kind of work out i don't know i i just find that really

00:11:47.800 interesting they're not saying no hard drugs well i mean the drug fighting the cartels is a real

00:11:52.720 issue and you could remove them if you industrialize the process yeah that's the thing and

00:11:57.380 also there would be far fewer overdose deaths because people would know the dosage and also

00:12:02.600 i think there would just be fewer incidents in general like there was someone adjacent to our

00:12:06.820 general world who recently got in a car accident then tested positive for drugs turns out he was

00:12:12.080 on fentanyl he didn't think he was taking fentanyl he thought he thought he was taking

00:12:15.540 something totally different but it was illegal and so of course there was fentanyl in it so like

00:12:19.420 i'm just saying i will tell you offline not not anyone directly in our circle we're talking

00:12:28.680 okay at a remove okay um anyway uh let's see number four no constant disruptive behavior

00:12:38.020 I also like that. It could be intermittent disruptive behavior. They're not asking for

00:12:43.940 the world here. And then five, everyone must contribute at least 10 hours per week to the

00:12:50.480 operation and maintenance of the village unless show proof of school or work to obtain an exception.

00:12:58.540 I will say that there are lots of grammatical errors in this. They do not use AI for spell

00:13:02.740 check or anything like that. And it kind of makes it feel more genuine, which I super dig.

00:13:07.000 I didn't include this in the photos that I showed, but in the New York Times article about this place, they literally include a picture of the manual that's sitting in the commons.

00:13:16.480 And that thing is filthy.

00:13:18.720 That binder has seen some serious action.

00:13:22.720 I don't know.

00:13:24.560 Did they have diagrams in it or something?

00:13:26.720 No, there are no diagrams.

00:13:28.160 They just had a binder of the printed out rules that you can also read online and are linked in the show notes.

00:13:32.880 There are some other parts of the manual that I read that I thought were interesting because it gives you a picture on how they govern.

00:13:40.240 They write, self-governance is the cornerstone of the village model.

00:13:43.660 Each member has a vote and is responsible to participate.

00:13:47.160 We are a membership-based 501c3 nonprofit community organization providing a shelter program.

00:13:52.600 The village council is elected by vote of the membership and responsible for 501c3 nonprofit operations, including election of the board of officers.

00:14:02.320 The board of officers consist of the chair, vice chair, secretary, and treasurer.

00:14:07.480 Membership may select no less than three or more than 25 counselors to serve a one-year term.

00:14:13.540 Keep in mind, this is a total of like 60 people.

00:14:16.220 Most decisions require a membership vote, including adoption of new rules,

00:14:20.440 and decisions made by council may be overturned by membership vote, except an exclusion for violence.

00:14:26.720 All villagers are solely responsible for attending meetings and requesting minutes to keep up on new rules.

00:14:31.880 democracy is a core value of dignity village and i'll get into it but they also have a

00:14:36.820 program non-compliance and grievance procedure that's also quite detailed i mean i won't get

00:14:41.280 into it um i wanted to get in but then i it got too detailed but anyway like they're

00:14:45.760 very ready for all of this um and the elders will will rule over your personal squabbles if they

00:14:54.240 have to they also give you a hint at the slice of life there just to not glorify it you know in case

00:15:00.340 are getting too excited about moving into this flagship city of the future in the guard shack

00:15:05.960 a telephone and personal message board are provided phone and other messages are pinned

00:15:11.060 to this board meeting notices or other official village business are posted in the comments

00:15:16.500 code of conduct for the guard shack as follows only the officially appointed mail deliverer or

00:15:22.120 board officer chair vice secretary treasurer may touch the mail so they have someone who's their

00:15:27.740 mail person like the mail truck will like drop it off at the guardhouse and like slowly back away

00:15:32.940 but then like the person who's responsible for the mail will go through this 60 person village

00:15:37.500 and deliver the mail to every tiny house which is kind of cool okay while the phone is in use

00:15:41.800 no yelling profanity or otherwise inappropriate discussions are allowed in the vicinity people

00:15:46.220 may be making calls to family children jobs courts donors etc courts which is interesting

00:15:51.980 like someone high off their mind or something like yelling in the corner while you're like

00:15:55.460 trying to on the one landline to the court phone calls are limited to 10 minutes unless official

00:16:02.240 village business or by special arrangement which is also interesting because it's like people all

00:16:07.480 sharing this phone number in this village i can imagine in the future like everyone trying to

00:16:11.360 share like a 3d printer or um you know an internet connection or like access to their jobs you know

00:16:17.540 they can live in these camps and we'll live in the ai fortress yeah i mean we'll see um no leaving

00:16:24.860 guard shack unattended if you are on shift except doing rounds must wait until the next person

00:16:30.480 shows automatic seven day out i didn't find out what a seven day out was i didn't look that up

00:16:35.240 yet no sleeping on guard shack duty automatic seven day out what is 70 how do you get kicked

00:16:40.780 out of the village or something there's leave the guard shack cleaner than you found it very

00:16:45.640 classic campsite rule as you know and then here's how they describe the bathroom situation because

00:16:52.540 i was also very curious about that seeing as they don't have the name of this community i'll look

00:16:56.260 up what seven day out means oh thank you um i'll just send you a link to their rule book

00:17:00.780 and then you can um use your browser to ask ai questions about it i i was actually just i was

00:17:07.000 enthralled malcolm i was enthralled and reading it and i didn't want to stop uh because but then

00:17:11.760 i had to because i have work to do people to take care of it's horrible it's horrible um okay

00:17:17.740 bathroom situation here we go portable toilets are provided and serviced twice a week

00:17:22.760 to not throw trash other than toilet paper or paper seat covers in toilets close the lid when

00:17:29.400 you finish to prevent flies from spreading diseases in our food i don't know wait do they

00:17:35.760 share food do they do communal meals yes they all cook in the same kitchen use trash containers for

00:17:41.260 trash only no buyer biohazardous waste such as needles urine feces or vomit needle disposal

00:17:47.340 containers are available in the guard shack if you miss the toilet or urinal do not leave your

00:17:52.920 mess for others to clean up disinfectants bleach and a hose are available from the housekeeping

00:17:57.420 coordinator if needed hand sanitizer is provided in the portable toilets and antibacterial hand

00:18:03.140 soap at the sink please use them to prevent the spread of illness the shower and sink are located

00:18:08.640 next to the portable toilets i'm sure it smells great showers are strictly limited a seven day

00:18:13.760 out means they expel you from the village for seven days who shunned shunned i thought so okay

00:18:19.720 great i guess while you're homeless like yeah it's not so bad because i was like how do they

00:18:23.640 where do you live and it's like well they're homeless anyway so yeah but like y'all your

00:18:28.080 stuff's there it's it's tough you know it's tough and a normal outage is being kicked out for 24

00:18:32.180 hours okay fair enough yeah you gotta wander the streets busk a little i guess from wealthy tech

00:18:38.100 workers showers are strictly limited to 30 minutes because there's only one shower for 60 plus people

00:18:44.280 to share the water is heated by individual propane tanks you must provide your own or borrow a propane

00:18:51.020 tank day guests may use the shower between 10 a.m to 10 p.m leave the shower in a tidy and sanitary

00:18:56.240 manner after use isn't that interesting that you have to so the the way they do hot showers okay

00:19:01.300 actually need a hot shower is you bring your own propane tank isn't that fascinating yeah

00:19:07.440 that is interesting yeah i'm just trying to think of how it's going to play out in the end times

00:19:11.720 okay i'm just i'm trying to get ready for it i'm stealing my mind okay hold on i'll do i'll do a

00:19:17.300 screen share because i found better pictures than you did okay okay okay let's give me a show give

00:19:21.800 me a show all right so you can see um let's go let's go to the top here you can see some of the

00:19:28.480 different buildings here right i mean like when you squint it looks really nice and then you

00:19:33.100 realize this is a bunch of junk tape together yeah but when you squint and again when you squint

00:19:38.740 oh it looks like like a normal neighborhood this looks like tell your ride i'm gonna be honest

00:19:43.340 for those unaware as i was before i met malcolm telluride is one of the most expensive places in

00:19:50.660 the entire world most elite and limited places it feels like if you've got a bunch of ski bums

00:19:57.560 that sometimes live in shacks everyone is incredibly wealthy there it feels like the the 0.70

00:20:02.260 show eureka i think this one yeah really shows uh well like what it looks like to live there

00:20:09.000 like getting it in profile yeah like a lot of shacks on on what appears to maybe be a parking

00:20:14.060 lot yeah paved an area piece of of paved in yeah um and then uh that you can see what's interesting

00:20:23.320 is is the people don't look they look kind of young a lot of them do i guess there's some

00:20:27.240 some of them are young yeah some are young some are young and some are older yeah village elders

00:20:32.680 village elders uh then we have another one there and then we've got like a little picture of what

00:20:38.080 it's meant to look like which is i like it i like it okay of course keep in mind it's it's surrounded

00:20:44.480 by the uh the composting plant uh it's uh it is surrounded by a composting plant yeah don't smell

00:20:50.460 good okay look they got it because no one will no one wanted to be on this government like that's

00:20:56.500 where i want to put my homeless oh next to come this is the great thing to do with the homeless

00:21:01.320 and then the ones they got away out you put them in radical games for their life

00:21:07.940 i think that's you know the tubes right that's what those are for

00:21:11.660 We'll be right back.

00:21:41.660 Let's go.

00:22:11.660 the tubes people would love the tube the tubes would be like stuffed full of rich people

00:22:32.160 there were live streams there were so many it would be that by the way for people who don't

00:22:38.100 know the tubes the tubes is this concept that like someone someone made an ai video that they

00:22:43.080 posted to x uh and i'll put the video here this is the dystopia that you can expect from ai it's

00:22:48.760 gonna be sick they're gonna do these terrible things to poor people and it's like nah bro

00:22:52.900 like this is gonna be we as a civilization have been waiting for this since the 80s poor people

00:22:58.620 game shows to survive we look back to the roman gladiators with pride i think here's the thing

00:23:06.200 though our sons looked at the tubes and were like how do i get how do i sign up for this how do i do

00:23:10.780 the tubes how do i get in the tube no one wants to be outside the tubes they want to be in the

00:23:14.420 tubes they want to go in the tubes it's so bad stick them in the tubes stick them in the tubes

00:23:21.500 unrelated note this generation including our children literally just you know how like birds

00:23:29.980 some parrots will like make the sounds of their of their owners or whatever or they're like the

00:23:34.560 songbirds will pick up the sounds of construction our children have picked up the sounds of memes

00:23:40.140 that people put into their youtube videos like octavian this morning was like and then i'd be

00:23:44.420 like oh my god brah and then he's like brah oh my god brah oh my you know that oh my god what the

00:23:52.820 hell and yeah he like he has it down like one of those songbirds that like learns how to like

00:23:58.040 no that's the type of thing that gets you asking simone you gotta be able to drop that in front

00:24:04.600 of the girls and they're like he'll do fine like the meme shows he starts his youtube or he starts

00:24:12.480 his twitter and he just rolls off with the like he'll save so much editing time he doesn't even

00:24:17.340 have to like insert the sound bite anyway i just had to like i had this realization this morning

00:24:24.200 when he did it again. And I'm like, oh boy, we live in a time. Anyway, back to the New York

00:24:29.340 Times article, quote, peer support is the best way to lift yourself up, says Scott Lehman,

00:24:34.700 a longtime resident who credits the family ship of the village with helping him coexist with the

00:24:39.500 voices in his head without medication and recover from alcoholism, which I thought to be super

00:24:45.860 important because it's maybe could it be that schizophrenia wasn't as big of a deal in the

00:24:52.420 past if you lived in a village where everyone knew you knew you were that dude with voices in

00:24:56.800 his head and was like carl knock it off you know like no one cares like is it could it be that

00:25:03.360 it's only in modern cities where you could just be forgotten and left behind that the voices in

00:25:08.020 your head ultimately get credence because no one else talks to you maybe i don't know anyway like

00:25:13.500 that theory i thought that was really interesting he's making it he's making it work he's both an

00:25:19.640 alcoholic and a schizophrenic in this village he hasn't killed anyone yet anyway let's talk about

00:25:24.400 the cost uh also continuing from the article representatives of villages attempting self-governance

00:25:30.340 in portland again villages what on earth um gather once a month as at the village federation okay so

00:25:37.300 there's enough homeless encampments that are trying to self-govern that there is a federation

00:25:42.460 that meets not annually not quarterly but monthly but anyway i continue at a recent gathering they

00:25:49.340 welcomed Mitch Green, an economist turned city councilor whose downtown Portland district

00:25:54.320 includes much of the city's unhoused population. He was flabbergasted by Dignity Village's annual

00:25:59.680 operating budget, $60,000 or about $1,000 per person. He said Portland's city-run tiny homes

00:26:07.520 villages cost taxpayers approximately $40,000 per person annually.

00:26:14.100 wait he said that their city city pays forty thousand dollars per person annually dignity

00:26:23.700 village pays one thousand dollars per person annually technically their per month fees are

00:26:29.900 a hundred dollars but they're probably making less than that for people who like you know can't make

00:26:33.620 rent sob story they get a month off or whatever you know yeah you know how it is when you're

00:26:37.040 dealing with these sorts of people but that okay that is interesting so it's a thousand dollars a

00:26:41.340 year for them and for the city it's 40 000 a year yeah i mean that really shows how well you can do 1.00

00:26:48.480 this when you cut out all of the middle ngos yeah well and people they're not invested in 1.00

00:26:54.220 they're not those people it's not even actually a thousand a year because they're paying that

00:27:00.420 money themselves yeah so it literally costs it he's just looking at it from an overall cost

00:27:04.940 perspective like what does it cost to help these people and then he's looking well like this one

00:27:10.280 every every person costs forty thousand because we're not willing to let homeless people just

00:27:14.800 starve if they don't do put something in right like that's what this community is willing to do

00:27:20.180 what's also notable though is this community these are people who chose the one thousand

00:27:25.360 dollar per person community over whatever it was that would have that the city was putting on

00:27:30.260 forty thousand dollars yeah so the value to the resident was higher than whatever portland was

00:27:37.340 offering and it costs them. So what is going on with that $40,000? Anyway, I continue. I'm

00:27:42.500 inspired by self-governed villages that center folks who are living in the situation, he told

00:27:47.900 the Federation, noting that spending on shelter programs was, quote, the biggest driver of the

00:27:53.480 city's recent $170 million budget shortfall, Mr. Green said. I'm going to be looking for

00:28:00.060 opportunities to take money away from the city's shelter system and divert it towards enabling more 1.00

00:28:04.600 of this hearing this i feel like it again this is why i'm saying this is so that's gonna piss off a

00:28:11.480 lot of professional activists i hope so i mean look they're not long for this world the cities

00:28:16.640 literally you can't as a city maintain a budget shortfall year after year when you haven't even

00:28:23.940 been hit by demographic collapse yet and keep in mind like these homeless people aren't having kids

00:28:30.380 and no one else in Portland is having kids.

00:28:33.200 And literally, Dignity Village has no kids.

00:28:36.400 It's against the rules for a minor to be the resident of the village.

00:28:39.700 So again, no, they're not having kids.

00:28:41.780 Anyway, the way that they pay for it, just to be clear,

00:28:44.380 I'm reading from a different part of the article.

00:28:46.500 The community accepts donations from the public,

00:28:48.500 but much of their operating revenue comes from monthly dues,

00:28:51.100 currently 100 per resident,

00:28:52.360 and micro-businesses such as a landscaping operation and firewood sales.

00:28:56.940 according to the city taxpayer costs for the project are minimal mainly for annual safety

00:29:02.580 checks by the fire marshal so once a year some dude from the fire department stops by and is

00:29:11.040 like hmm hey can you uh i don't know like put a fire extinguisher here like and then he leaves

00:29:17.600 and the city's like that's it that that's our yeah somehow that's a cost that's not a cost

00:29:23.900 the fire marshal's salary is a fixed cost how did how did how do you even say that's a cost anyway

00:29:29.240 i have had it with these cities um continuing again from the article what we're here trying

00:29:35.000 to do is help people and when we do that we help ourselves and everybody rises says mr layman

00:29:40.400 that's the theory anyway and what he's describing to me and why i wanted to read that part is this

00:29:46.360 is a community in which people are responsible for each other and themselves which is profoundly

00:29:50.180 more sustainable than whatever's going on outside this village. And then when I thought about that

00:29:55.600 more, I realized in our modern society, people aren't even really considered responsible for

00:30:01.040 themselves. Yeah. Well, I mean, you couldn't get a self-organization like this from a group of

00:30:06.800 far progressives. Like every time they try to set up one of those commune cities or something like

00:30:10.620 this, they all turn on each other within like the first week. Well, and God forbid they help

00:30:14.680 someone else because oh my pots is acting up again i can't i have to attend my therapy session

00:30:22.200 no but it's it's very much like oh i have a whatever i need you to handle everything and

00:30:30.720 then you get the leeches in the community and you get the and the leeches always feel like

00:30:34.540 they're being victimized and then the struggle sessions and the blah blah blah blah blah um

00:30:39.440 and like uh it ends up choking you know if you accept any of them into the community which is

00:30:44.300 why i understand they have to do uh you know such a egregious vetting um it destroys the possibility

00:30:51.560 of doing something like this but we built a society where we forget truly or we've made it

00:30:57.060 impossible to truly let these people fail totally it's it's crazy okay also from the article current

00:31:03.120 infrastructure includes a guard shack computer lab communal bath house and a greenhouse that

00:31:07.500 doubles as an overnight shelter for people who show up needing relief the individual tiny homes

00:31:12.600 lack running water but since 2025 have been powered by roof mounted photovoltaic panels

00:31:18.400 a gift from a local solar energy company which is cool of them and this even accounts for the

00:31:25.180 potentiality of key infrastructure failing which is another reason why i wanted to talk about this

00:31:29.900 because the big thing that we cannot expect from many cities and towns is working plumbing and

00:31:36.520 electricity keep in mind and this is something we've talked about in other episodes that many

00:31:40.500 cities were built as like sort of private equity projects where someone fronted the money to put

00:31:46.820 in the all this basic infrastructure the roads the sewers etc and then the cities came in and

00:31:51.960 like the houses were sold and the land was sold and then these cities exist but they've they've

00:31:56.480 now found out oh wow we now have to completely replace the cheaply made plumbing it's not going

00:32:02.380 to work soon but they don't have they literally don't have the money to replace it um so this is

00:32:07.300 more of a serious issue than i think people are aware of and you can go to what is it called

00:32:11.980 strong towns the strong towns movement to look like learn more about these issues but anyway

00:32:17.560 um brian barth notes that the city didn't originally want this permanent community to exist

00:32:22.600 like the city of portland but basically what happened is there was this homeless encampment

00:32:27.900 that quote settled on city-owned land next to the composting facility where the government

00:32:32.980 has reluctantly allowed them to remain and quote under an obscure state law the city designated

00:32:38.440 the place as an urban campground allowing some flexibility around building codes so basically

00:32:44.040 to keep the bureaucrats at bay they're like oh well i guess and we'll just call it a campground

00:32:48.200 and it's okay and like that's interesting i think that's interesting um it's important it's gonna

00:32:53.040 it's gonna become important in like the final section of this discussion where i talk about

00:32:57.800 the lessons you can take away from sustainable self-governing cities going forward anyway about

00:33:03.980 the governing structure quote the community's governance structure issues hard and fast rules

00:33:08.980 in favor of strategies to maintain community cohesion and well-being people are expected

00:33:13.600 or sorry people are expelled only in extreme instances usually involving violence rules

00:33:19.200 meant to keep the place clean discourage hoarding and prevent fires are enforced to the extent

00:33:24.320 necessary to satisfy the fire marshal and environmental regulators. Transgressors tend

00:33:29.560 to be met with peer pressure, formal incident reports, and collective kindness. Your peers

00:33:35.840 hold you accountable if you're slacking or engaging in negative behaviors, which hits a lot

00:33:40.340 different than if a staff member of a traditional shelter nags you or gets you in trouble,

00:33:47.380 said Victory LaFara, a social worker and longtime advocate for the community.

00:33:51.160 It means more and actually motivates people to make the changes they need to make.

00:33:56.600 And just as we talk about complex religions collapsing into super soft religions and folk beliefs, Malcolm, I feel like this might be the natural, organic, instinctual way human communities form when there's nothing else.

00:34:10.340 um like it it's not capable of building insanely cool things on a governing or societal level

00:34:17.220 but this kind of tight-knit community where everyone knows each other and and just enforces

00:34:22.000 norms does seem to be something that's eminently sustainable if not something that's powerful

00:34:26.680 to do anything beyond survive what do you think um sorry explain the question again

00:34:33.040 you created in the pragmatist guide to crafting religion this concept of super soft

00:34:39.700 religions kind of like what what shows up in the complete absence of a religion right i think what

00:34:46.360 we're seeing here is the concept of super soft governance which is a tight-knit small community 0.86

00:34:52.700 where everyone just kind of enforces norms and it somehow functions it's not gonna do great things

00:34:57.820 but it's gonna enable survival is that kind of what you're seeing here too

00:35:02.760 i mean not really i think what we're seeing here is the benefits of a high exclusivity community

00:35:11.800 which is functionally what this is yeah and we see even if you're dealing with the lowest pool

00:35:17.680 in the worst circumstances if you are high exclusivity you can make society work the the

00:35:24.120 key to a society working is who you keep out not necessarily um having the best starting stock to

00:35:32.280 begin with. That's a really good point that exclusion is the key to sustainability and

00:35:38.900 something thriving. And yet it's so demonized, but being able to tell people, no, not you

00:35:47.560 is what's necessary to make this work. Yeah. And to like be very strict about kicking people out.

00:35:52.660 Okay. Okay. Let's talk about how this is catching on, how people are really excited about this

00:35:58.820 concept. From the article, tiny home villages for the homeless have spread rapidly across the

00:36:04.160 country in recent years. Many without housing still reject them in favor of the relative freedom

00:36:08.900 of the street. Numerous unhoused communities across the country have attempted to become

00:36:13.340 permanent and self-governing, but they are typically shut down quickly. Several have

00:36:17.900 emerged in Portland in recent years, including Right to Dream 2 and Hazelnut Grove. And while

00:36:24.740 the city has not evicted them it also hasn't encouraged the approach i checked out right to

00:36:30.060 dream 2 and that's t-o-o it has a page with video tours i didn't check them out i don't like it

00:36:35.860 didn't look as good it didn't look like it was actually a thing and then hazelnut grove has just

00:36:40.500 an instagram that doesn't really show much like there's even anything there i don't even know if

00:36:45.420 it's real like if it exists anymore and then they have a link tree that goes to petitions and old

00:36:51.360 defunct live stream things. And so I think they just kind of failed. They tried and they failed.

00:36:57.040 Resistance is based on a belief that somehow cities will have a working infrastructure.

00:37:05.140 Like when you read from the article, you'll see it's super clear. The city of Portland does not

00:37:09.100 believe independent villages are scalable, replicable models, said Alison Perkins, a city

00:37:14.680 spokesperson, noting issues with sanitation, fires and water pollution that pose a life,

00:37:20.180 safety and health and equity infrastructure issues for both residents of the self-operated

00:37:25.340 shelter and the surrounding community end quote the important thing again she thinks these things

00:37:31.820 are going to keep working in her city and i know this is like she's discussing this just for

00:37:36.100 homeless people and just now it's just that in the future cities aren't going to be able to make

00:37:42.180 that argument they're not going to be like oh this self-governing city like they don't because

00:37:46.700 they're not going to be providing water to anyone at that point. Anyway, here's an alternate format

00:37:51.440 which Portland is trying to push. Quote, Portland's formal alternative is a network of seven city-run

00:37:57.600 tiny home communities called safe rest villages that are heavily rule-based with a 120-day limit

00:38:04.260 on length of stay. In contrast, Dignity Village's lack of time limits draws criticisms from this

00:38:10.680 city. Brian, the author, later notes that stays range from one to two years, but a higher percentage

00:38:15.420 graduate from them 60% than those in the city-run communities.

00:38:22.540 So around 40% of people who stay in the city-run tiny home communities actually make it out

00:38:27.820 to permanent housing.

00:38:29.040 60% leave Dignity Village for it.

00:38:31.840 Anyway, that is Dignity Village's model generally does not provide in-depth case management

00:38:39.660 and does not prioritize moving individuals into permanent housing, Ms. Perkins said.

00:38:43.880 but it clearly works better and costs less.

00:38:47.340 So this is just insane.

00:38:48.920 $40,000 per person,

00:38:50.460 and they can't even get people into safe housing. 0.78

00:38:52.980 It's ridiculous. 0.78

00:38:54.500 Yeah. 0.63

00:38:55.020 Anyway, about safe rest villages.

00:38:57.320 Jim Haas, a Dignity Village resident

00:38:59.020 who was previously housed

00:39:00.520 at a safe rest village in Portland,

00:39:02.580 says he was evicted

00:39:03.460 because he had not done enough

00:39:04.800 to procure items like a driver's license

00:39:06.920 that are necessary to apply

00:39:08.240 for subsidized housing and other benefits.

00:39:11.520 Quote, if you don't meet all these milestones

00:39:13.700 they've established and they kick you out regardless of whether you were trying or not

00:39:17.380 he said which makes me think of modern poor houses and debtors prisons that are depicted

00:39:23.540 in ready player one do you remember them welcome like if you were indebted to the big company you

00:39:27.900 had to like live yes yes and like you had to what did you have to do you to like mine something and

00:39:33.620 like some spawn point of a video game right i can't remember but yeah that's what these tiny

00:39:39.180 home, like city-run tiny home villages kind of remind me of. Elena Pirtle-Guiney, the Portland

00:39:45.100 city councilor for the district in which Dignity Village and Right to Dream 2 are located,

00:39:50.820 sees the self-governed and city-governed models as complementary. And I think that's important

00:39:56.760 because that is what we're ultimately going to see. We're going to see weird city programs.

00:40:00.900 We're going to see weird off-the-grid programs. We're going to see the elite

00:40:04.680 sovereign states and cities and they're all going to exist together and a lot of it comes down to

00:40:11.320 what you can get yourself into when things fall sideways right so something i'm building those

00:40:18.660 connections i know man like gotta get married more and more people are reaching out to us about

00:40:25.100 the index and they're like look i'm in like i'm in i'm in i'm like yeah it's happening like we're

00:40:32.360 starting to build it. Another alternate format is self-governed communities that are run by

00:40:38.440 nonprofits with boards of housed non-residents. So here's the mention of that in this article.

00:40:44.880 Mr. Hebbin helped spearhead a community called Opportunity Village in Eugene, Oregon,

00:40:49.900 which was modeled on Dignity Village. He also co-founded a like-minded venture called Square

00:40:54.540 One Villages. Unlike Dignity Villages, whose founders created a nonprofit on their own,

00:41:00.140 Opportunity Village, Villages Associated Nonprofit, is run by an external board of directors,

00:41:06.040 housed residents, who support an elected council of village residents who oversee daily operations.

00:41:12.320 Quote, you visit these camps and you see all these positive elements of self-organizing,

00:41:16.020 direct democracy, and mutual aid, but they're also far from ideal living situations, Mr. Heavens

00:41:21.940 said. As soon as you try to formalize them, there needs to be some top-down rules. I think

00:41:29.300 that's not going to work i think it needs to be owned by the people who live there what do you

00:41:33.820 think can i agree okay so you don't think some like benevolent person can be like i'm gonna make

00:41:39.680 your my human farm work because you don't own equity in it you don't own your place there's

00:41:44.640 no reason to improve it right like yeah that's one of the problems was communism you can't come

00:41:49.200 in as like a third party benevolent person and handle this yeah i would give one exception which

00:41:54.700 is i think that hundreds of years have proven that the um what do we the the feudal model

00:42:02.440 basically where like people are living and and working the land of landed gentry and that the

00:42:08.500 landed gentry cares about the land and the people thriving because otherwise they're not making the

00:42:12.280 income they need to do their thing and then the people on the land they all care about like

00:42:16.580 collectively working together because i mean functionally it's it's their land assuming that

00:42:20.180 they're being treated well and not being robbed blind so maybe that could work but that's not

00:42:26.460 what this is these these separate boards are people who don't like live whose livelihood

00:42:31.180 isn't dependent or tied to the success of this community of unhoused people but it could be

00:42:37.840 i i do wonder if we'll see forms of feudalism in the in the future i mean there are existing

00:42:42.740 like forms of feudalism now but anyway here's a dark slice of life in the village and a picture

00:42:49.340 of the tension. The tension between the independent Stignity Village residents' credit for the

00:42:55.120 community's success and the city's disapproval of its anarchic atmosphere hung over the Dignity

00:43:01.540 Village Council meeting. The aroma of decomposing waste penetrated the walls from the compost

00:43:07.920 facility next door, along with the occasional roar of a jet taking off as the group trudged

00:43:13.220 through the agenda items, bills to be paid, policies for evicting vicious dogs, and the

00:43:19.060 delicate work of resolving a love triangle's domestic disputes. Village elders issued ardent

00:43:24.420 reminders to keep trash from accumulating and remain vigilant about the risks, lest the city

00:43:29.780 pull the plug on their 25-year experiment. Ray Stanzak, a 76-year-old resident, spoke to the

00:43:35.940 perennial paradox the community faces. They may feel like their model trumps the cities, but they

00:43:41.200 sit on city-owned land quote i don't think they're going to shut us down he said they might try to

00:43:47.120 run us um which is yeah anyway it's not an ideal situation but i do think that most new settlements

00:43:55.640 that show up in the future are going to be in some similarly tense situations where technically

00:44:02.140 some other more resourced entity is going to be near them and i think the really key thing and

00:44:09.920 you were always like this when we talked about land that we should buy you were like we need to

00:44:13.500 buy land that is on frozen tundra that no one wants to be on that's far away from everything

00:44:18.740 because if you're anywhere that's desirable people are going to try to take you over and also if you

00:44:25.720 start to thrive and be productive and make money guess what they're gonna be like yeah we own you

00:44:30.920 now and we have the guns so tough you belong to us and and i think that that's something 0.85

00:44:38.780 even though they're like next to a dung heap they're still in this situation which sucks and 0.83

00:44:46.420 then of course it sucks that they're next to the dung heap just like it would kind of suck if we

00:44:49.980 were the frozen tundra assuming we didn't have like the world's best that's why the city's not 0.83

00:44:53.940 fighting over the land that's why somebody else isn't fighting over the land it protects them

00:44:57.360 yeah though even even with this protection they feel the tension they feel the city breathing

00:45:02.060 down their neck and being like kind of just waiting for them to slip up just once and and

00:45:05.640 that's tough but as i started reading this because i can't i i didn't really remember exactly the

00:45:10.580 the scenario of chop chas i was like wait hold on a second because i remember in 2020

00:45:15.680 when chop chas existed as this occupied area again in the pacific northwest it was like hold

00:45:22.760 on it was supposed to be self-governing it was supposed to be super cool why did it fall apart 0.61

00:45:27.360 in days whereas this community has been around for 25 years and then when i just brushed up on why

00:45:34.180 it failed so quickly and why this village has succeeded to survive so long i got i came away

00:45:41.140 with sort of some like lessons to live by for your post-apocalyptic community so i will share

00:45:46.860 them with you malcolm the important thing just as to what we were discussing chopchas inhabited

00:45:51.960 occupied land in the middle of a city that people wanted and needed uh whereas dignity village

00:45:58.940 settled in vacant land next to a composting plant that nobody wanted to be in it actively

00:46:03.340 stinks and lacks plumbing so key lesson you cannot settle on land people want second dignity village

00:46:10.840 was created by people who genuinely needed a place to live and had a few other choices whereas 0.54

00:46:15.900 chop taz was occupied by protesters and people who were just like literally there to make a mess 0.71

00:46:22.480 it sucks so key lesson basically future communities are not going to be run as larps or by people who

00:46:29.440 like, Oh, I wish this worked. Like I'm going to go here and show people what it's like. It's going 0.91

00:46:35.920 to be run by people who literally have no other choice and need to be there. And I think this is

00:46:41.320 important because we were just talking the other day about Praxis, this city state that has recently

00:46:48.060 announced it's going to set up its city upon a hill in Uruguay and how it's going to be so

00:46:52.860 beautiful and they're trying to get i think 2 000 bougie tech workers to move out there

00:46:58.940 and commit to living there and it's not going to happen because which we did need it i got you to

00:47:05.320 click the button malcolm i hate you i hate you so much we are steel visa holders of praxis and yet

00:47:16.620 I just want them to listen carefully that people will not move to your city state unless they need

00:47:23.460 to. And this is an important lesson in post-apocalyptic city building. Anyway, also super

00:47:30.920 key, super key point. Dignity Village has low traffic and you need to see a guard in order to

00:47:37.120 get in. You have to be basically accompanied as a guest as you visit. Whereas Chop Chaz had

00:47:43.640 really rapid churn. A lot of people are coming in and out. So the key lesson there is that the

00:47:48.120 sustainable communities of the future will be gated, even when they're not elite, even when

00:47:52.660 they're not expensive. And I had, I guess I hadn't thought about it that it was like, well, there's

00:47:57.380 going to be the walled cities and then there's going to be everyone else. But no, of course,

00:48:02.420 everyone else is going to have walled cities too. Everyone needs protection when there's no

00:48:06.280 protection. You know what I mean? And I just hadn't, I don't know. I hadn't put that together

00:48:09.920 in my head because i'm i love it and therefore dumb um anyway from i just just a little picture

00:48:17.180 again from the dignity village manual all guests slash visitors are subject to review by the village

00:48:22.960 intake committee so by the way just to get in the village intake community has to take a look at you

00:48:28.700 maybe um which is a thing i really like that i like how elitist they are visitors for a villager

00:48:35.400 must be escorted by security to the commons room security will then get the villager for safety

00:48:42.520 reasons domestic violence stalking vendettas etc security must not escort a visitor directly to

00:48:49.000 the village's structure i think that's really smart well i'm sure they really don't trust

00:48:54.420 outsiders which i like yeah no like this is a very post-apocalyptic friendly village i'm into it

00:48:59.820 outside well it's in portland i know no like i don't know just reading this article and being

00:49:05.580 like oh yes at the conference where all the post-apocalyptic villages meet and like

00:49:09.780 why because they've already destroyed their city well we're going to see

00:49:15.400 little islands of things working as progressives end up bringing cities to a state where the

00:49:21.840 culture within the city is just not continuing not functional as william gibson said the future

00:49:26.780 is here it is just not evenly distributed outside the commons area visitors must be escorted at all

00:49:33.220 times only a member may escort a visitor outside the common area exception is made when an activity

00:49:39.280 doing work for the village only members in good standing may have overnight guests so even if

00:49:44.720 you're like if you're not yet a if you're a provisional member for example no guests

00:49:49.400 it's like the bohemian grove you have to have like it's it's you know that's it is as elite

00:49:54.640 is the bohemian grove that is the rule set of the bohemian grove by the way only a pool member can

00:49:58.780 bring a guest yeah yeah so there you go right i mean like that's the we have bohemian level

00:50:03.840 bohemian grove levels of exclusivity also dignity village has really clear governance and rules like

00:50:09.580 literally there's a handbook it may be filthy but it's there and there are membership expectations

00:50:14.940 you have to work uh 10 hours a month there's intake there's there's resident governance there's

00:50:19.820 discipline. And whereas in CHAP and CHAZ, they had this like, they'd lose norms, but complete

00:50:25.120 inability to enforce them. So another key lesson is to be a member of sustainable community will

00:50:30.100 be like having an additional part-time job. It is going to be work to be in your community. It is

00:50:35.420 not going to be easy. You don't get to like throw money at a problem and be like, oh, like now I can

00:50:40.820 just live life like I used to. No, your life is going to fundamentally change. It's going to be

00:50:44.340 like having kids except now you're having a community which is rough but it shows that the 1.00

00:50:50.080 Latter-day Saints have a major leg up in this because they're so used to it that like the

00:50:55.180 churches don't have staff to play the music to to teach the Sunday school like it's no you get

00:51:01.000 called that's your calling now great now you're paying you're playing the piano this Sunday it's

00:51:04.640 on you that was my college roommate she was she would always get called to play the piano

00:51:07.960 know and also dignity village managed to patch together conditional permission and use arrangements

00:51:14.600 and non-profit and legal capacity which was major i mean obviously chop chats was super illegal just

00:51:19.880 to protest and they were occupying an area by force so a key lesson also is to find a sort of

00:51:24.400 plausibly legal way to enter an arrangement with whatever entity technically governs the area

00:51:29.520 and i think that's just an important like thing to note like whoever has the most guns in your area

00:51:35.120 Well, they didn't take a land that a bunch of other people had shops on and everything.

00:51:39.100 They just, obviously.

00:51:40.460 Yeah.

00:51:40.660 So yeah.

00:51:41.180 I mean, obviously take that's like rule number one is do not take desirable land, but rule,

00:51:46.360 I don't know.

00:51:46.660 What am I on five?

00:51:47.620 This is my last rule is you have to have some kind of arrangement of like, I will pay you

00:51:53.600 protection money or like, technically I fit within your rules.

00:51:57.260 So you're going to leave me alone.

00:51:58.440 Right?

00:51:58.740 Like they have to, they have to feel like they approved you.

00:52:02.920 and if they don't feel like they approved you you're not long for this world do you see what 0.99

00:52:08.100 i mean like you have to you have to play a stupid game even though it's the apocalypse you have to 0.99

00:52:13.680 tell the smokers like i will give you gasoline i don't i don't i'm losing my i will take away 1.00

00:52:20.500 your homeless and and stick them in a recycling bin recycling compost heap malcolm anyway god

00:52:29.380 love you Simone this is very informative yeah and I hope people learn from this I hope they do too

00:52:35.960 and I love you very much and I love you and I prepped the malicious compliance episode while

00:52:40.000 we were recording so you did I know you'd love to ignore me while I'm shut up it's so hard to

00:52:47.340 listen to a woman just go on and on I thought you were playing you told me you're being productive 0.99

00:52:53.280 and I really appreciate told me you wanted it ready you got excited about it so let's do it

00:52:57.100 I do. No, we really have to do that episode. So I really appreciate it. Thank you. Look,

00:53:00.420 I'm not mad. I know. Do you know what it's like to be me? At least, I mean, I know it sucks to

00:53:06.960 have to listen to me. Now you guys get the episode tomorrow. I'm sure everybody's excited about it.

00:53:10.540 Anyway, love you, Simone. Bye. Bye. So far, this has been capturing really good,

00:53:13.920 high-quality video. Yeah. And yet the export's so much faster. So yeah,

00:53:18.980 you're not going to see me complaining. I'm very pleased. Yes. And I got random bruises from kids.

00:53:24.680 see you came in and you go who'd you get that from i was like i didn't know i had that bruise

00:53:28.520 that's a new one interesting we're covered in wounds torsten's head butts are just so intense

00:53:37.180 so now he's it's how he shows his love it is how he shows his love but like when you see him running

00:53:43.180 in for one you're like oh god brace especially we're gonna have a holding something or doing

00:53:49.340 something i know it's move or block yeah yeah there's no way to run away i think it's going

00:53:54.300 to be a houdini situation if i don't die tripping over something with the kids like one of them's

00:53:59.200 just going to sucker punch me and i won't be ready for it it's just gonna die

00:54:03.960 they are so rambunctious um anyway i i'm really excited to do the sabbath episode i'm quite

00:54:12.940 frustrated that i didn't have time to prep today um but by the way if you people want to watch the

00:54:18.100 argument that we had in preparation for that episode that a lot of people thought was one of

00:54:21.480 our better religious episodes it's a weekend episode um we we made it a weekend episode because

00:54:27.020 i didn't want to have two sabbath episodes in a row what it means if it's a weekend episode

00:54:30.220 this on our paid sub stack in patreon um because i didn't want to have two sabbath episodes in a

00:54:34.320 row uh but if you want to see us bicker about things well we wanted to make sure that we were

00:54:39.760 on the same page and then try it and see you know like uh we said i was being too jewy and he was

00:54:47.040 being too i don't know to anything i was right um we ended up just arguing about bible quotes

00:54:56.300 which is very funny i don't think you would have expected that early in our relationship

00:54:59.140 like look at where it says this no look at where it says this

00:55:04.580 they stoned a guy clearly they were serious about it come on you don't you know um but then yeah

00:55:13.880 what i did ultimately come away with and i think maybe someone on our our uh paid subscriber

00:55:19.060 hangout was talking about this that or was they were mentioning it was i mentioning it too

00:55:25.000 that jews have a covenantal relationship with god that is to say the israelites have a covenantal

00:55:30.200 relationship with god everyone is subject to god it's just that this one group is like it's a well 0.97

00:55:36.080 we're gonna play a cat and mouse game with rules and everyone else you're just gonna burn and fire

00:55:40.920 if uh you don't follow my rules so one group has to play cat and mouse game the other one has to

00:55:46.700 figure it out and you're very much in the figure it out group you're not in the cat and mouse game

00:55:52.280 the the malicious compliance group the malicious compliance let me put a wig on so that i cover my

00:55:58.780 hair that's one of the things that i am uh uh outlining for that episode it's all of the ways

00:56:03.940 that jews no that needs to be its own episode is a tier list of jewish malicious compliance i'm so

00:56:10.460 excited for this episode do i have to do this if you're just gonna okay i will prep the jewish

00:56:14.880 don't you dare talk that into the sabbath episode i'm okay okay we'll do that as a lead up to the

00:56:20.300 sabbath episode the jewish malicious compliance dare you um because i think that it's it's very

00:56:26.480 fun uh it's so fun it's so cool and we have to do like the timed crockpot we have to do that

00:56:32.100 rotating light thingy we have to do of course the golden thread i mean i found some of it when i was

00:56:37.640 researching it like crazy i had no idea about so there's a bunch of rules that make it really hard

00:56:42.120 economically to do like cattle if you're talking about milking cows like no no it's because the

00:56:48.420 first cow born i think it's the first male cow or first female cow has to be treated in a specific 0.99

00:56:53.560 way that's like not economically viable so so what jews do is they uh sell a portion of the cow's ear 0.98

00:57:01.500 to a goyim um so it's like they don't own all of it um and then that person sort of takes 0.99

00:57:08.240 responsibility for them not following all the rules or another crazy one is you're supposed 1.00

00:57:14.460 to do field rotation um where you leave but you don't need that for modern agriculture 0.91

00:57:20.000 and so for the year that they're supposed to leave it fallow they rent it to a goyim um to 0.96

00:57:26.800 work i'm not doing anything i'm not doing anything being paid oh and there's this other thing

00:57:34.600 where um they have a goyim like live with them for the day of sabbath to handle stuff but they're

00:57:42.740 not allowed to ask them directly so for anything right because you can't you can't ask somebody 0.99

00:57:47.540 else to work for you so you've got to say things like hmm certainly is dark in here

00:57:52.380 or feeling a little chilly 1.00

00:57:57.140 yes it has to be a woman um we were we were because a woman would naturally be that 0.86

00:58:08.160 underhanded malcolm if if you walk into a room that has a massive mess in it you're like

00:58:13.620 no i don't see anything wrong what's wrong there's nothing wrong with this picture

00:58:17.760 what do you mean it would be being my goyim be the easiest servant job ever right like you don't

00:58:23.160 have to no you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't in the first place could be like am i gonna die

00:58:28.660 no i was joking on the um the the the paid subscriber call that like the reason why jewish 0.89

00:58:35.880 women are supposed to cover their hair actually has to do with the way you would be dressed down

00:58:40.320 in a court case if you had committed adultery um and then a second section where it's considered 0.99

00:58:45.040 a woman's hair is considered like a lustful thing like a uh like the exposed breasts or something

00:58:50.800 like that and i was like when you talk about like malicious compliance it's like you come downstairs

00:58:55.820 and your parents are like you're showing too much skin you know go back upstairs like too much of 0.98

00:59:01.020 your breasts are showing then you come back downstairs with like rubber boobs um and the 0.99

00:59:05.060 parents just like i guess i wasn't strict enough touche and then we argue that this is how jews 0.99

00:59:11.320 why god had to get so strict with them why they have so many rules um cat and mouse game but again

00:59:17.760 that's a covenantal relationship that they have with god everyone else is just subject to the

00:59:22.100 which makes them really good lawyers and stuff i mean clearly it does i think it's humanity

00:59:27.640 benefits from having a a subset of humans that have this covenantal relationship yeah i'm really

00:59:33.680 glad i don't have that and then i think it also is good that it's very to me it kind of reminds me

00:59:39.880 the difference between the uk exam system and many colleges in higher education institutions

00:59:46.240 in the u.s we're like in the u.s it's like you have homework you get graded on class attendance

00:59:50.640 you get graded on all these things and in the uk you show up at finals and you mean it's clearly

00:59:57.140 a less to me at least or maybe maybe it's different for different people i mean maybe 0.97

01:00:01.240 the jews are and this is why you you have to be like genetically a jew to be jewish

01:00:05.280 like they prefer this they're made in a way that they prefer the covenantial relationship 0.99

01:00:09.660 whereas i don't that would feel very unfulfilling to me i think i wouldn't be as

01:00:13.580 compelled by it rules to me are like swaddling yeah you kept wanting more rules around the

01:00:21.180 sabbath that's what the core argument is and i was like no simone like clearly this has been

01:00:26.040 loosened here here and here i need the tight and constraining embrace too many rules but you were

01:00:32.760 also complaining about the rules the most and i was like i know it's that's that it's that brat

01:00:38.860 relationship in bdsm you know thank me harder god constrain me harder oh god um i need to not do this

01:00:48.780 let's talk because uh this isn't looking good um

01:01:08.860 Aha! I am the only one in this time first.

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