Based Camp - How Vice Got Stomped By A V-Tuber (What Everyone is Missing)

00:00:00.000 hello simone you cannot i cannot tell you how excited i am to be here with you today because

00:00:05.400 today we are going to be doing an episode that we were on vacation this last week and so we

00:00:10.180 weren't able to record new content oh yeah we're around our kids supposed to be on vacation all

00:00:14.040 malcolm can think about is this one thing is this this is all i'm hearing about the whole cruise

00:00:19.020 anna valen's drama and so everyone else had covered this already so what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna say

00:00:24.940 you know what i'm gonna go into it in more detail i'm gonna find things that our site is getting

00:00:29.600 wrong i'm gonna find bits of evidence that our site hasn't uncovered yet i am going to get so

00:00:34.860 deep that we're actually going to do two episodes on this because i find the situation so fascinating

00:00:42.780 from the perspective of because there's just so much history recorded history on this journalist

00:00:49.140 anna valent okay just for those who do not know anything about vtubers because unlike malcolm

00:00:56.220 thinks everyone knows what vtubers are vtubers are about as well known as furries and actually

00:01:01.440 most people malcolm don't know about furries either okay so okay so vtubers are people who use

00:01:06.560 personas and avatar to avatars to sort of be them we have an animated animated anime face instead of

00:01:13.220 our faces for example yes they typically comment on things they comment on news stories a lot of them

00:01:18.060 are streamers and so this is about a vtuber who was the target of a cancellation attempt carried out

00:01:25.600 by a prolific online poster author journalist who happened to execute this targeted attack campaign

00:01:32.780 through vice news articles and it is theorized that part of why this person anna valent did this is 0.92

00:01:40.780 because they were a not very good vtuber who had lost a representation contract and had sour grapes

00:01:47.280 about this vtuber being hold on you're confusing a number of things here and you're actually getting

00:01:52.040 something wrong that a lot of other people get wrong that we will get into so i'm gonna first clear

00:01:55.660 up the first big mistake do it a lot of people believe and we'll get into this in a second you

00:02:01.140 don't need to understand what i'm talking about here but basically this person did an unhinged piece

00:02:06.000 about an agency a lewd tuber agency called the allure and in the piece you'll see that they were

00:02:10.600 really just upset that they weren't hired by the allure and then kirscher one of the vtubers they

00:02:15.800 did an attack on multiple vtubers trying to get their sponsors to drop them so trying to get

00:02:19.600 kirscher being the main target right they're like also kirscher was the main target but they

00:02:23.080 also targeted leaflet and and and leaflet is our oshi you know who who we push they had a term in

00:02:29.180 like fandom community means the main person we push and i really like her content but anyway both of

00:02:33.600 these were right leaning but not like far right vtubers when i say right leaning and not far right

00:02:38.080 these are the types of people who would say uh trans people are real and deserve to be protected

00:02:43.420 but there are perverts who pretend to be trans people to get covered like they're they're at that level

00:02:48.400 they have not trust the trans rubicon yet to say actually the entire trans thing doesn't really

00:02:52.820 make a lot of sense but that's like their level so they're not that conservative right but certain

00:02:59.460 individuals have decided this just means they must be destroyed and so kirscher's understanding of this

00:03:05.020 is oh well i did this this episode that attacked his piece or her piece sorry not to misgender here

00:03:11.100 we're gonna we're gonna use the this is a she

00:03:14.780 right but i don't want to you know they they put a lot of effort into this whole thing and i don't

00:03:24.620 see the point in hurting their feelings without reason right but we'll get into within these two

00:03:28.740 pieces why you probably if you are an actual like if trans people really exist you would want more than

00:03:35.640 anyone else for somebody like this to not be able to identify as trans specifically if you are

00:03:41.760 somebody who says being trans is not a paraphilias you would not want this person representing you 1.00

00:03:47.640 because for this individual very clearly because they post a lot of their paraphilias publicly

00:03:53.240 feminization and the violation of other people's consent are their two primary paraphilias so for

00:04:00.400 this individual their trans identity is a paraphilias and they don't hide this because 0.81

00:04:06.740 it's very clear that they do not have a female mind trapped in a male body this is like when we

00:04:11.980 get really angry about like great replacement theory racists calling themselves pronatalists we're like

00:04:18.740 no yeah in the same way that we're like no great replacement theory is not pronatalism your average

00:04:24.200 trans person would be like this is not a trans individual exactly but but the problem is with her 0.99

00:04:29.800 theory that this came from this via lure article is that article came out in april the campaign

00:04:35.680 against her what happened was it was a bunch of stuff on blue sky and x and then you have the vice

00:04:40.420 articles that come out that sort of accumulate it didn't start in april oh it started in march oh

00:04:47.100 now here's a little question what episode might she have posted in march that could have triggered

00:04:56.300 anna valence i don't know and this is unfortunately what sort of undermines one of anna valence core

00:05:04.620 arguments about this so anna valence publicly has something called pocd which is pda file ocd disorder 1.00

00:05:15.180 and if you look at some of her tweets she will say things like is that a real thing a lot of interest

00:05:20.140 for sexuality ocd as a sex ed 101 stream on additional resources on one of the main topics

00:05:26.540 to discuss pocd there are so many more to discuss is this just is this just obsessive compulsive

00:05:31.820 disorder where the compulsion is being a pedo bear well so that's the way they frame it but it's not

00:05:40.480 the way so basically in the kirscher piece where she calls this out okay she's like this is actually

00:05:45.780 worse than like no contact maps we don't know maps maps are minor attractive people where they

00:05:50.680 try to normalize these desires and they said okay well i i just don't contact kids the the way that

00:05:58.840 pocd is different for maps is they believe that one of the treatments to it is exposure therapy um

00:06:05.700 looking at and i'll put the letters on screen here so it's like a form of maps with a

00:06:14.980 justification for engaging in it that this person says that they indulged in to to help suppress it

00:06:22.040 and this person talks about age play and everything like that which we'll get to because it gets really

00:06:26.220 hypocritical in just a second okay um where you know they or the person they were with likely the

00:06:30.400 person they were with and tomorrow what we'll get into with this individual is they did a lot of stuff

00:06:34.920 with very young people multiple times so there was a famous instance with them where they put a 0.99

00:06:39.340 sexual toy in their butt and they played a game called what's it called fall guys which is a game that 0.99

00:06:44.820 is mostly played by kids and anytime another character touched them it stimulated them and 0.99

00:06:50.620 what you will soon learn about this individual as we go deeper into them which is really fascinating

00:06:54.300 is their core arousal pattern seems to be around it violating other people's consent their most famous

00:07:01.160 article by their own statements was an article around uh public sex and that we need to be having

00:07:08.240 more of it and it's not actually a violation of consent they're like well somebody can always just

00:07:11.520 choose to look away if they see you is basically something they said in one part of the article

00:07:14.520 oh so uh this is taken down on daily dot it took me a long time to get this but yeah and this appears

00:07:20.840 to be the core motivator for their current trans identity they they they have a male genitalia they 0.54

00:07:27.040 brag about their male genitalia all the time didn't anna valence also write some kind of like 1.00

00:07:32.540 sci-fi novel about how in the future trans women such as herself we'll get to that so actually i

00:07:42.200 can just jump right to that if you're interested to because we're talking about so this is something

00:07:46.680 that a lot of people get wrong so a lot of people this individual did in a few different instances so

00:07:54.860 people who think that this is just one instance of them doing this it was not one instance they tell

00:07:59.000 this same story using different wording in a few places but every time before they tell it they say

00:08:06.560 well i'm just doing it to troll the other side if you look at us when trump what ran what won the

00:08:11.860 election we had the you know go to the breed the mar-a-lago breeding pits episode right like that was

00:08:16.720 the cover article image because i thought it was funny but we don't like go on a detailed and this is

00:08:21.800 what the breeding pits will be like this is what will be done to him in there if you look at what this

00:08:26.720 like we just use it as like a shock joke and like title cards and stuff like that if you look at what

00:08:31.420 this individual is actually going into i can read one of the shorter instances in which they did this

00:08:36.180 because they did it a few times yeah in the future there are a number of institutions that emerge there

00:08:40.040 are community-run institutions where if you are a trans girl you can go ahead and sign up for a

00:08:45.000 reservation slot to an all access to one of many breeding facilities where you get to breed the s 0.79

00:08:51.320 out of cis girl p you can absolutely devastate that s effing destroy it murder it you have to cycle the 1.00

00:08:59.400 girls out we have breeding saunas breeding bookstores breeding movie theaters this is something we're 0.94

00:09:05.260 building this is the future this is what turfs don't want the future that i want is a world where 1.00

00:09:10.600 you can walk down the street and don't even have to worry about whether you're going to be able to

00:09:15.080 breed that good pee that's the future for all of us and what you will see is we're not going to go

00:09:21.400 into later one thing is we're in a bunch of sexual fan fiction is consent like it's great until there's

00:09:28.720 no consent and why why does the one thing anna valence has to be so into have to involve well that's 1.00

00:09:36.280 what her trans identity is it's a way to force people and we'll see this as we go deeper into her 1.00

00:09:42.020 stuff even the v-tubing thing was about violation of consent it's a way to force other people to be

00:09:47.780 forced into her sexual reality so it's not it's not on a gynephilia it's not no i feel like i was

00:09:55.520 born in the wrong body and that's i think what's something really that muddles trans identity is that

00:10:01.100 you get a mixture of all these things there are some people who genuinely have body dysmorphia there

00:10:04.860 are other people who just feel like they're women or like they're men that were born in the wrong body 0.64

00:10:09.740 there are other people who love the idea of having sex with themselves as a different gender

00:10:14.060 and then you have people who love removing consent and realize especially given our culture now that

00:10:19.340 this is the most effective way to do that every single moment of your day in public and it just it

00:10:26.020 must be so annoying to people in the movement to have to deal with these different groups well no all

00:10:31.800 the real trans people have been kicked out of the trans movement like if trans people are real like 0.97

00:10:35.860 and again we we question this you can look at our trans anorexia video which i think is the best

00:10:40.620 evidence i've seen that it might not be a real thing but if it is real uh you look at the people

00:10:45.520 who would i would say seem to be real trans like maybe buck angel or like chris jenner who were like

00:10:50.260 the original people who pushed the movement they're all completely cast out of the movement at this

00:10:54.280 point i think chris jenner is the is like the mom well not christian who's the one caitlin jenner caitlin jenner

00:11:01.720 they've all been completely excommunicated from the movement the only people who are still in the

00:11:06.400 movement are people like this girl who we're talking about here or like alex vade minnen who

00:11:11.560 we've talked about who you know fantasizes about you know kinky little girls in restrooms we've done 1.00

00:11:16.880 his quotes before and these are individuals who have not been excommunicated from the movement alex

00:11:20.800 vade minnen for example recently had a netflix special where he was a comedian you know after these

00:11:25.500 comments they don't even make an attempt to pass but anyway i i want to get deeper into the

00:11:31.120 specifics of this because i find everything about this person fascinating i find the way they have

00:11:36.880 tried to weaponize vice against anyone who pisses them off which we'll get into in a second very

00:11:40.860 fascinating but if you want to get an example of like the types of of things that this person writes

00:11:47.380 and feels the need to share with other people when they got the job at vice they wrote an article

00:11:54.700 called uh-oh waypoint hired a giantess vtuber and it's a picture of their their you know lewd tubing

00:12:02.060 avatar stomp stomp stomp here comes anna valens the world's first and only giantess games journalist

00:12:08.200 vtuber oh boom boom boom that's very specific pulverizing the ground below i whoops wrong job

00:12:15.520 sorry how embarrassing let's start again you see she loves forcing she she uses the fact that she got 1.00

00:12:22.900 a job at this mainstream outlet to force people to engage in her sexual role play well and also to 1.00

00:12:29.060 advertise her yeah this is the first thing she thinks to do it she earns the majority of her money 0.99

00:12:33.280 from her sexual role play stuff which she also says but it's only about 600 a month though which

00:12:36.980 we'll get into all of that tough tough market out there these days right but she's going niche i don't

00:12:42.840 know like giantism there's a world for it but i don't think it's a big one it's it's apparently not a

00:12:50.380 big one but there's even a smaller world for trans giantesses yeah she's playing on hard mode here 1.00

00:12:55.860 yeah so i want to get into the the via lure article so via lure was a v tubing agency for

00:13:01.940 lood tubers now anna valens does not mention this at the beginning of her you think there would be

00:13:07.500 some disclosure trigger warning i am a lood tuber who applied to this agency and they didn't get back

00:13:12.220 to me we know she applied to this agency because some great autistic internet detectives

00:13:17.020 found a post where after they did their first announcement she cheered herself on about applying

00:13:22.680 for them but i will note here before we go further with any of this she's going to be like oh well you 1.00

00:13:27.600 know pocd is about being worried about being into underage people it's like well then why did you get

00:13:33.320 mad at them why did all of this start when they published this and and keep in mind kirsha was hounded

00:13:38.200 by one tweeter who i think even still is doing over 100 tweets a day about this and we don't know that

00:13:43.280 this tweeter isn't anna valens as far as i know right it seems like she might be because we will

00:13:47.720 get into instances in which uh anna valens says something on her twitter account and then references

00:13:52.500 it in a vice article was her like actual twitter account was like no upvotes well then also have 1.00

00:13:57.440 there not been like screenshotted comments but the the comments were posted one second ago making

00:14:03.940 yeah saying somebody threatened my life and the comment was one second ago on reddit and it's like okay

00:14:10.520 how did the vice editing team let this get through well that's i think that's one of the

00:14:15.920 mainstream criticisms of anna valens is that in her hit piece of kirsha and leah flitt there's a lot

00:14:23.260 of non non-confirmed non-primary source secondhand anonymous reddit references she associates with them

00:14:32.480 in the in the kirsha instance she associates with kirsha stuff that a stalker who hated kirsha was saying

00:14:37.840 oh good lord and and like very obvious stalker who was always trying to attack kirsha then she like

00:14:44.220 imagine like giving a microphone to somebody's stalker right like what a vile person and then

00:14:51.020 with leaflet she got mad at her for a title card that that leaflet doesn't make her own youtube just 1.00

00:14:57.040 so people know she mentioned this on our channel somebody else makes her youtube for her they had

00:15:01.280 made a title card where she's covering another video where there is a a black person being led around

00:15:06.280 on a chain by a white person and the point she was making in the video is aren't our prison systems

00:15:10.340 terrible we need to talk about this it's basically like slavery in a way and that that was the point

00:15:16.040 she was making but they had a smiling version of her avatar in one of the a b test versions of the

00:15:21.300 title card so not even on all the title cards just one which probably does this happens to us all the

00:15:26.560 time as people all the time take title cards of us like the hope not hate article on us used a bunch

00:15:30.700 of title cards completely that where the episode like should women be allowed to vote question mark 1.00

00:15:36.340 yeah yeah where the point is yes they should or the episode of secret jewish technology for fighting

00:15:41.300 the urban monoculture that had like an ominous looking like like star of david and they're like

00:15:45.660 look they must say the whole episode about that women and men should only be allowed to vote if 0.60

00:15:51.860 they're contributing and that contributors to society but sure go ahead yeah but anyway i want to get into

00:15:56.200 this v tubing piece because i want to read some quotes from it so you can see how unhinged it is

00:16:01.520 so she gets angry that she doesn't get hired by them is is what we learn in the piece and then she

00:16:07.680 goes on a stream where a number of their talent are talking and so then she writes about this incident

00:16:12.700 where she thinks she's going to get them with a got you moment and she believes this at the got you

00:16:16.560 moment during the stream talent shibby katanabam stressed via lure will accept transgender talent

00:16:23.200 as long as they quote go by female pronouns quote quote live life as a woman quote and quote

00:16:30.300 sound like a woman in quote oh the gen one laugh as the issue was discussed but and now dot dot dot

00:16:38.000 here what does it mean to quote unquote sound like a woman is via lure willing to accept trans women

00:16:44.080 like myself even though i have a feminine voice i'm often clocked as trans during stream and in asmr

00:16:50.360 comments would i lack the right credentials to quote unquote sound like a woman in other words do they 1.00

00:16:55.600 want trans talent or do they want trans women who sound specifically like cis women they want trans

00:17:00.900 talent that's trying could if necessary hide their gender identity via lure never clarified these during 0.99

00:17:07.420 the stream essentially putting trans talent right back in square one how does via lure feel about trans

00:17:12.820 women what that is the most this is a company that makes money by men who are horny for the people who

00:17:20.520 work at the company okay they're like if you sound like a man or like a trans woman in your terms

00:17:27.460 you're not guys aren't gonna like that they're not gonna want that you're not gonna be able to get guys

00:17:32.680 off right and this is true this in the second post we're gonna do on this person they do a long post

00:17:38.460 about why nobody wants to date them and then they go into the statistics showing that basically nobody

00:17:42.720 wants to date trans women and that's just like a statistical fact so this is a company trying to

00:17:46.800 sell erotic material and she's saying that people should be forced to consume the erotic material that 0.88

00:17:53.200 she creates even if it's not what turns them on that companies should be forced to distribute her 0.98

00:17:59.860 erotic content to an audience that doesn't want it even though it doesn't turn them on because again

00:18:05.840 her core kink is the violation of other people's consent and i would note i don't actually have a 0.78

00:18:11.040 problem with that as a cue if you are engaging with this within a fictional context within like

00:18:17.140 let's say ai chats okay or it was in stories yeah or it was in books that you're reading or it was in

00:18:22.860 young adult fiction okay a lot of it does totally look at 50 shades of gray you know that's fine that's

00:18:29.240 great more power to you but if you engage with it through or consensual non-consent as we discussed

00:18:34.500 with you know ayla at one point so yeah yeah yeah like consensual non-consent stuff that's all fine

00:18:39.780 but what this person is doing is actively violating other people's consent to get off yeah and when

00:18:45.440 they have non-consensual non-consent yes non-consensual non-consent is what this person is into

00:18:50.800 especially public non-consensual non-consent like public sex or bringing people in at the beginning

00:18:57.000 of a vice article into their fetish or you know as you can see here forcing an agency to accept them i can't

00:19:03.700 believe that they wrote this in like a public article but anyway they then you know in the

00:19:08.580 article by saying so let me get this straight erotic content of young girls is fine because

00:19:14.140 she goes on this big complaint that some of their characters look like an anime style that looks

00:19:18.240 underage and sometimes is explicitly underage uh but lesbian content goes too far what that's 1.00

00:19:23.760 particularly strange when you consider the popularity of f4f so she gets really mad because 0.86

00:19:28.700 she only wants to create and if you even look at her own website she will not create content for

00:19:32.700 it she has this fantasy that there are cis women consuming her content and we'll go into like 1.00

00:19:36.660 this being a fantasy because she points out in another article that we'll read on another day

00:19:40.180 that no cis women want to date her but that online cis women are plenty into her and i'm like

00:19:45.100 sweetheart those are not cis women those are women pretending to be cis women because as we

00:19:51.740 know from the statistics cis women basically almost never are into trans women when they're lesbians

00:19:56.260 or anything else but anyway she wants to create this category of content it's like if there was a real

00:20:01.060 market for this why can't you just do it yourself and create this big audience but anyway simply put

00:20:06.660 the genre is not only enjoyed by queer women but straight men as well men commonly listen to f4v content

00:20:13.060 for the same women reason that men enjoy watching real life lesbian porn because it's about two women 1.00

00:20:18.340 having sex so i would note here we go into this extensively in our book the pragmatist guide to

00:20:22.680 sexuality but this is not why women on women content is so popular among male audiences the reason it's so

00:20:29.800 popular among male audiences is that average cis hetero men have a very strong disgust reaction

00:20:37.080 to other men and some of them have such a strong disgust reaction to seeing other men for like

00:20:43.140 obvious evolutionary reasons any man who is okay whiz or still turned on by a group of other men

00:20:49.760 sleeping with his partner is going to have significantly fewer surviving offspring than a

00:20:53.960 man who isn't well as women don't need this disgust reaction to other women a woman who is okay with

00:21:00.480 other women sleeping with their partners especially when you consider it certain parts of human history 0.72

00:21:03.980 for every one male that had a surviving offspring 17 females did suggesting that females were herded by 0.98

00:21:11.060 high value men actually disgust towards other women and sleeping with your partner would cause

00:21:15.440 fewer surviving offspring in a evolutionary context but anyway the point here being is many men have a very

00:21:21.920 strong disgust reaction to other men within their erotic content this is also why very anna valence 0.95

00:21:29.480 seems to have a huge problem with this not understanding this why people consume futa the reason why people

00:21:36.260 consume this is because it is a way for an individual who doesn't want to see any males in their pornography 0.60

00:21:45.320 have piv sex still within that pornography you as a trans woman are not futa you would literally be the 0.70

00:21:55.380 most antithesis thing that somebody who was into that category of porn would want because from the 0.98

00:22:03.180 perspective of the evolutionary deep culture doesn't care about modern cultural norms brain you are a man

00:22:10.500 that is dressed up like a woman i note this because anna valence is constantly pointing out the 1.00

00:22:16.340 popularity of futa pornography as a evidence that there is a big audience out there for trans creators

00:22:25.300 like hers especially ones that haven't had bottom surgery when this is not the case in their pragmatis

00:22:30.880 guide to sexuality we did a survey of individuals who said they liked futa and then asked how many of

00:22:37.060 that group said that they were also into pornography that featured trans individuals and the result was

00:22:43.060 near zero percent this is definitely the case when it comes to fetish material like bondage theaterism

00:22:48.440 giantess and vore where the premise is more important than the gender of the performers and like that's

00:22:53.960 really effing specific that wouldn't happen to be the type of content that you produce and are mad they

00:22:59.600 won't hire you for it's like oh yes because they've already gone over it is but i'd want to point out the

00:23:04.840 really ironic thing about her attacking this company for their underage appearing models okay which is 1.00

00:23:11.080 to say this person has repeatedly talked about how they engage in and promote age play this is play

00:23:19.460 where one of the partners pretends to be underage now when companies have these youtube avatar things

00:23:26.620 it is always an above age woman playing it none of these companies have underage girls playing these 0.99

00:23:34.440 models it is literally the exact same thing that anna valens is promoting and doing herself 1.00

00:23:43.400 and and keep in mind this isn't like me saying this even her followers are arguing this so if you look

00:23:50.920 at quotes from her followers who support her they're like like okay maybe arping age play squeaks

00:23:58.560 some so it's not just regular it's arping removal of consent age play that she really liked oh no but surely

00:24:04.420 this can't be worse than actually being an effing nazi right which is exactly what kirscher and her

00:24:10.220 supporters are keeping on kirscher is is mid sauce like she is she is not that conservative she's not as

00:24:16.500 conservative as us and people say we're liberals all the time besides i've been on x long enough to remember

00:24:22.020 who anna valens is and honestly who the hell cares a nazi and an openly proud one is one million times 0.98

00:24:28.900 worse than a trans woman who's into age play i said what i said by the way here what i'm gonna put on 0.99

00:24:34.120 screen which i find really fascinating is so in her article on vice so you can tell basically she's

00:24:39.960 just using vice to push her twitter agenda without doing any real fact checking doing all the normal 0.55

00:24:45.180 stuff you would see from a twitter or blue sky activist like faking screenshots like the one where she

00:24:49.060 got the threat one second before she screenshotted it we're here she says in a tweet via lure says

00:24:55.460 straight up no to f4f content as the agency says it cannot ensure success if it creates content for

00:25:01.920 queer women straight content is the vision of the company because of an established method will always 0.98

00:25:07.220 be f4m content and i can't see that changing at this point in time why is that a problem but two

00:25:13.440 what she has shared here was in her article is a link to her own blue sky account okay and this is

00:25:21.040 whatever this is called on blue sky only has 77 likes and 12 reposts this she thought was relevant

00:25:28.040 to put in an article and a link from an article in a mainstream news source this is what vice has

00:25:35.820 become is a platform for individuals like this now as i was going to say earlier she's since removed

00:25:40.680 her blue sky she's since removed her twitter she's since likely been removed from the writing team

00:25:45.080 of vice because they removed these two articles from her daily dot only after vice published an

00:25:49.980 article defending her yeah they did so there were three articles in this series trying to get these

00:25:54.620 people canceled trying to get their sponsors to drop them she was trying to produce active harm in the 1.00

00:26:00.140 same way that cancel culture usually did and basically she found that cancel culture doesn't work

00:26:03.740 anymore not only did it not work when she was attempting to do it on twitter although she did get

00:26:07.220 they did get one of her sponsors to drop her this game called crime city whatever i don't care she's 1.00

00:26:12.400 likely more popular now this really centered kirsha which i really appreciate happened you know she's 0.62

00:26:17.560 more famous now than she's ever been we've invited her to come on our show she said she's got a lot of 0.51

00:26:21.920 ass recently she so it may take a while if anyone is fans of hers be like hey you should go on base camp 0.76

00:26:27.560 you should talk to malcolm and simone because i'd love to help signal boost her um after all this because i think

00:26:32.440 that that needs to be the community's reaction when they see somebody trying to get canceled

00:26:35.180 everybody needs to move around them what i was really surprised about is kirsha through a legal

00:26:39.080 threat was able to get all these articles taken down and i'm like if we get like we've had like

00:26:42.900 as i've mentioned like seven articles in the last month about us on the new york times well i'm like

00:26:46.340 bbc articles i've never thought of trying to have one taken down like i was like oh these just draw

00:26:52.760 more attention to us right like i didn't even realize having a a completely fake article taken down

00:26:58.100 and the guardian writes articles that are as unhinged about us as these articles are from from vice about her

00:27:03.400 yeah well i'd also we don't like legal stuff we don't like legal stuff so another thing about

00:27:11.780 this individual that hasn't been covered a lot is if you go to her sub stack you get a picture of who

00:27:16.220 she is and what she's dealing with and what you learn is this is an individual who by the success of

00:27:20.980 the new right by the success of the culture shift has had her life systemically destroyed she was a

00:27:27.120 woke games journalist who focused on promoting moving the overton window around sexuality around

00:27:34.180 things like the sexualizing of minors around things like you know wizard like age play content

00:27:39.720 with her you know around things and i love it i don't actually care like the whole lolly thing

00:27:44.120 whatever like i'm not gonna go there i don't have an opinion on that but what i will say and i do have

00:27:50.360 an opinion on is her attacking another group over this while promoting the same thing like i am

00:27:56.040 against hypocrites okay and i can be like oh malcolm you want i mean it's entirely fictional content and

00:28:02.380 we know that when you ban something like pornography the amount of child assaults sa assaults goes up by 0.85

00:28:08.780 around 50 we saw this in the czech republican who was banned it's been seen in many other countries i can

00:28:12.980 only imagine uh like i know it's something that you're not allowed to study ala got absolutely

00:28:17.320 defenestrated over this very unfairly very unfairly lower the so this is one of these things where i

00:28:23.460 don't know if it's completely fictionalized content if i was to promote a law in this domain it would

00:28:31.360 100 be focused on what reduces the amount of harm to children and if it was shown as i think the

00:28:40.220 evidence leans towards right now it's having this content available lowers the number of children who

00:28:46.840 have to go through their lives having experienced this then i will trade all the content in the

00:28:52.680 world however distasteful it may be so one just one child doesn't have to experience this but we're

00:28:58.360 likely looking at many children per year talking around if you look at the statistics probably

00:29:03.560 banning this would lead to hundreds more children per year having to experience this and i just can't

00:29:08.220 justify that over what is ultimately an aesthetic play i mean whether you're looking at sa offenders in

00:29:14.260 prison often started consuming porn at a later age or you look at as we mentioned before when

00:29:20.340 porn bans have been removed in countries the amount of sa that happens drops dramatically we're talking

00:29:25.960 like 50 like not like small dramatically or you can look at with every percent i think it was every

00:29:32.060 percent increase in internet access within the united states essays dropped by around seven percent

00:29:36.720 just across the board you see this and you can go to our other videos where we go deeper

00:29:41.020 into the effects of banning various types of pornography i'm not saying i like that this

00:29:46.400 content exists but what i'm saying is my end goal is reducing harm to children it is not looking like

00:29:54.260 the most conservative guy in the room i don't know if it's completely fictionalized content yeah except

00:30:00.180 that's not what anna valens was universally doing yes some of it was fantasy but some of it was putting

00:30:05.300 yeah like but her thing was like the video game where she was doing that with actual kids yeah 1.00

00:30:11.140 that's that that crosses the line like if you are doing this in a 100 synthetic environment the

00:30:17.180 problem is that she almost is like the biggest case arguing that you know any indulgence in this is not

00:30:23.020 okay because she clearly wasn't able to keep it purely fictional and that is a problem so i don't know

00:30:28.880 because she had these psychological licensing mechanisms like pocd that gave her the ability 0.97

00:30:34.820 to engage in this stuff bullshit yeah i mean no no i know it's it's bullshit but what i'm saying is 0.95

00:30:40.460 there's just like one by the way people are like oh well this is a real thing no it's not a real thing 0.98

00:30:44.260 like one guy made this up and it's published a bunch of articles on it in like 2015 this this does

00:30:50.340 not appear it appears to be a license for authorizing exposure therapy for something that that normally you

00:30:57.660 would not promote but anyway let's let's look at her actual quotes here okay one and let's be clear

00:31:02.480 because a lot of people's obsesses obsessions and compulsions with with traditional ocd or like

00:31:08.980 main non-autistic ocd you're like i'm really afraid of hurting someone i'm really afraid of like no that

00:31:13.720 their exposure isn't okay well now let's go hurt people you know yeah that's not no that's not what

00:31:21.120 you but anyway so she says i've been looking for work in media for the past couple weeks now

00:31:25.540 particularly games journalism and surprise surprise has been a complete waste of my effing

00:31:30.300 time take a look at the positions available on video games journalist jobs site as of this article

00:31:36.340 six are posted four of them are unpaid of the two positions that offer compensation both are freelance

00:31:41.440 and one of them is only offering three to five pounds per seo article three to five pounds per

00:31:47.140 article that's nowhere near a living wage for the work involved in researching fact checking well

00:31:52.820 fortunately for you you don't do that in writing a search engine optimized work of games journalism

00:31:58.100 but hey if you're that desperate go get it five pounds to write a thousand words about the best

00:32:04.700 tokyo ghoul characters what a steal in short if you work in games journalism and are out of a job right

00:32:11.160 now you are effed also if you currently have a miserable job in games journalism but enjoy eating food

00:32:17.960 you are effed and then dot dot dot i'm going to let you know a secret in the media industry 0.62

00:32:23.260 in 10 years i have written many cover letters and many resumes for full-time jobs i've never heard

00:32:28.920 back from any of them not once despite being a prolific writer reporter and even published author

00:32:34.340 no one has asked me for a chat for a call no interest from jezebel none from motherboard gives moto

00:32:40.180 ha a rejection email what makes more sense blowing a whole day preparing a resume that will never land me

00:32:46.820 an interview or recording audio where i pretend to be a giant woman that eats people if it takes you

00:32:51.460 a couple hundred dollars this month no it doesn't take you a whole day to prepare a resume i don't

00:32:56.100 but like i understand where she's coming from right like okay at least i can get a couple hundred

00:32:59.980 dollars a month if i do well this is why so many women are our only fans clearly right i mean obviously 1.00

00:33:06.360 it's not a long-term solution for most people who engage in it which is why people you know

00:33:11.220 don't don't promote this but i i this i think gives an idea of like where this girl's mental space 1.00

00:33:20.740 is yeah this is an individual who bought in to the opposing side of this civilizational conflict that

00:33:29.700 we have been having the side that was dedicated to cultural imperialism and right being out any

00:33:36.120 cultural differences any differences in the way people see gender roles any differences in the way

00:33:39.860 people see sexual taboos or sexual norms or or what marriage means to them or the future of human

00:33:45.220 civilization i mean they they were unmitigatedly the bad guys in this civilizational battle but this

00:33:50.200 person bought into it a hundred percent and i guarantee you they thought they were a good person when they

00:33:55.240 were doing it and now not only are they completely you know unemployable living off of the food scraps of

00:34:02.820 society but they will likely for the rest of their lives be looked at with a degree of derision as the

00:34:12.360 pendulum continues to swing more and more against the abuses of the trans movement i could not imagine 1.00

00:34:20.880 a fate worse than living in this person's shoes but i paid five thousand dollars to be a woman this would 1.00

00:34:29.120 mean i'm not really a woman it's i'm just a i'm just a guy with a mutilated penis basically yes 0.98

00:34:35.660 oh boy do i feel like a jackass he's struggling to find work so she decides to do basically online 0.99

00:34:43.880 sex work and complains about it says she can't get a job but still manages to become a writer advice 1.00

00:34:52.340 yeah what i was one of the things i was going to talk about was this is she actually did at one

00:34:56.740 point land a job not just as a as a journalist but managing an entire journal team after one of the

00:35:02.760 companies she worked at was acquired by another company she quit within a month said the workload

00:35:07.160 was too high and then set up a go fund as long as she's never gotten the shots in life it's that she

00:35:13.500 has thrown the shots away so i will note here that her career choice around again not just

00:35:22.140 games journalism but if you look at her games journalism it's all about trying to move the

00:35:25.620 everton window on sexual deviancy in ways that is likely psychologically harmful to people as we'll

00:35:30.520 get into in the next video on her where we'll go over the mental damage she's done to herself and we

00:35:35.480 will see a picture of a completely destroyed individual like we saw with this game journalism

00:35:40.120 stuff but the industry that they have touched they also burned down games journalism didn't burn down

00:35:46.040 because of the right it burned down because of writers like her who cared about pushing their

00:35:50.640 message over the truth you know i know if i want to hear the truth i go to someone like kirsha i go

00:35:55.020 to somebody like side scrollers i do not go to somebody um like one of her articles because you

00:36:01.180 know she's never worked in the games industry if you go to leaflet leaflet used to work for riot games

00:36:05.020 you know she designed luxe and pantheon right like she is an og gamer she works at like five major 0.99

00:36:11.280 gaming companies and now does in part games journalism and she's interested in a fairly neutral slightly

00:36:18.400 right-leaning version of the truth this individual is not this individual is interested in forcing

00:36:24.060 other people as you can see throughout the via lure article to do what she wants which is you know oh

00:36:29.120 except this except this except this right and so if you look at this background of hers she's finding

00:36:34.680 it hurts her even more than other people in the games industry so she writes it's strange because this

00:36:40.240 was not always the case once my experience as a sex worker was a vital career asset back when i was a

00:36:45.780 reporter specializing in online censorship which is funny that now her main job is trying to promote 1.00

00:36:50.460 online censorship sex workers right and sex tech being a sex worker was a career benefit it was a

00:36:56.040 sign that i knew what i was talking about i offered lived experience intuition and digital gonzo journalist

00:37:01.580 vibe that made me trustworthy in and out of the sex working community it's one reason why again i was

00:37:08.400 able to write a book invited to talk at universities and so on keep in mind i don't know if her book ever

00:37:13.920 really sold it was about the early sexual history of tumblr but it actually looks like it could be

00:37:17.960 interesting from somebody who was rotted by exposure to that we can see oh let's prevent this from

00:37:22.740 happening again now writing about adult content sex work and online sexuality is seen as taboo as google

00:37:28.560 made ding a domain covering these topics so my experience as a sex worker is an additional

00:37:33.200 professional liability at least in the eyes of your average civilian why risk bringing on a sex worker what kind of

00:37:39.300 baggage does it bring on for a long-term future as an adult content creator but i also need additional

00:37:45.940 income to support my career a rookie lood tubing lood tubing only pays a couple hundred a month hence the

00:37:52.880 job search so this is somebody who destroyed their career prospects by engaging in what was normalized

00:37:58.280 within her communities and if you look at even her life she has completely created a fictional persona

00:38:03.940 that she has to play to be happy somewhere along the way i stopped playing shooters and started 0.58

00:38:09.020 wearing leather i was having sex i didn't want and doing sex i wasn't into i was reading books that 0.80

00:38:15.000 were certifiably mid because other people said they were based i was hiding my interest in nerd s 0.97

00:38:20.060 because it wasn't cool to be at home real queers touch grass lathered lube and f'd so basically this is 0.95

00:38:27.800 the type of person who gets so social pressured by these communities that even she sees the damage these

00:38:31.860 communities were doing to her that she was completely making up who she was even if all she was doing

00:38:36.380 was hedonism acting she then says one day i woke up and realized that i wasn't being honest with myself

00:38:41.080 i was trying to look punky because that's what you did when you were a d in boston i was trying to hang

00:38:47.760 out in bars events and activist spaces that were cool hip sexy forcing myself to go to parties i didn't 0.60

00:38:53.520 enjoy listen to poetry i didn't like jerk off writers i hated to read wear clothes i didn't feel 0.93

00:38:59.100 comfortable in and for what what good came of it which is really sad to see this this life that she

00:39:08.940 had constructed she thought if she always searched for validation if she always chased the the dragon

00:39:14.440 of progressivism the most victimized person in the room the most etc person in the room the most

00:39:20.020 degenerate person in the room that she would achieve affirmation and be satisfied with her life and her 0.82

00:39:25.480 life if you read her subsec is just a constant okay i think i finally found what'll make me happy

00:39:30.520 and then a few months later okay that didn't make me happy okay i think i finally found what'll make

00:39:34.700 me happy and if you contrast her life with say our life where we literally live you know the end scene

00:39:41.840 in grandma and grandpa turn young again or the end scene in in gladiator you know i've got these fields

00:39:46.840 of weed in front of my house i've got my kids i've got my wife you know without everyone being dead yes

00:39:51.600 but instead of sacrificing and working to build a meaningful career that helped people to build a

00:40:10.060 family to have kids to work to make the next generation better than the last this person in 0.70

00:40:17.080 an endless search for self-validation and pleasure basically fell to the cenobites

00:40:22.320 doors to the pleasures of heaven nor hell i didn't care which i thought i'd gone to the limits

00:40:28.160 i hadn't the cenobites gave me an experience beyond the limits pain and pleasure indivisible

00:40:35.080 we weren't against you feeling pleasure we weren't against you being validated we were trying to

00:40:48.100 protect you from the inevitable of incessant and without restraint indulgence these days the fight

00:40:54.220 often feels like progressives yelling at us like why don't you want cenobites hanging around our schools

00:40:59.760 and recruiting children like everyone should be okay with cenobites cenobites are the best but it's

00:41:05.200 like why do we promote all the things we promote because it helps people because at the end of the

00:41:09.900 day while it may hurt you in the moment to say hey don't indulge in that stuff don't indulge in that

00:41:14.920 stuff publicly we've always said like what turns you on is what turns you on you don't have a control

00:41:18.760 of that but don't indulge in it publicly because one it often ends up hurting other people it often

00:41:23.520 ends up violating other people's consent and eventually it will come back to you it will come back and

00:41:29.140 damage you and in addition to that because we were right about all of that we say don't engage in

00:41:33.620 these lifestyles yes i understand that in the moment this is the way you want to see yourself this is

00:41:37.260 what you think but as we know from you know the study gender discontentedness and gender non-contented

00:41:42.520 will use in 2023 of 13 year olds who identify with the opposite gender by the time they're 23 over 9 and 10

00:41:48.800 identify with their birth gender this is a phase this is this is what the data tells us now and so when

00:41:55.080 other people affirm this in you even though it it makes you feel better in the moment it ends up

00:42:00.240 causing more suffering than getting married while you're young starting a family and and and doing

00:42:07.080 the hard thing you know going in and putting in the work going in and doing the hustle and and and

00:42:11.800 doing the unglamorous job that makes your family the money it needs to make and i think that a lot of

00:42:16.520 people can see that what we're pushing and they're like yeah but this hurts in the short term but it

00:42:19.560 helps people in the long term and and i think that that's what a lot of the new right is about

00:42:24.260 it's like what actually works what actually helps people we don't want to enforce some outdated

00:42:29.180 gender store stereotype we don't want to out day enforce outdated sexual norms or morality or taboos

00:42:37.040 where we enforce those things is because systems that you thought were outdated it turns out if you

00:42:43.880 look at this all with a sober mind seem to have had some benefit to the people who pursue them

00:42:49.400 and we say this even in ways that hurt you know some of our followers you know i can say something

00:42:53.060 like if you're a girl and you're not married by the age of 25 you need to be panicking it's going

00:42:57.520 to be very very hard to secure a partner and this hurts a lot of the women who watch this who are

00:43:01.020 single they're like it's really hard to find a guy after 25 and i'm like yeah i'm trying to help

00:43:05.360 the version of you that's still young and i know it hurts for me to say this that it becomes almost

00:43:10.440 impossible because guys will play you they see your desperation and they will use that to get you to stay

00:43:15.960 with them and then they trade you out for somebody younger in a few years and and it's horrifying

00:43:20.060 that this happens but they can get away with it because the dynamics are so in their favor when

00:43:25.540 you hit that 30 dating market which is i'll see this with women they'll be like well i'm a nine out 0.97

00:43:32.180 of ten it's like well you're a nine out of ten for a 30 year old but the problem is a 30 year old

00:43:36.060 guys for nine out of tens can date 25 year olds and and that's the problem that's that's the and and when

00:43:42.640 they turn 40 it's the same right so the whole system is rigged against you it hurts to say this

00:43:48.280 but it helps society in aggregate to normalize this understanding now if you want to go into

00:43:54.860 other things that the oh sorry i'd also note here you know when we talk about like the

00:44:00.660 underage content a lot of this underage content i wanted to say the phenotypically young content

00:44:06.540 a lot of this phenotypically young content that people are complaining about there was a recent

00:44:09.640 instance in which somebody did a video of like an anime girl who had this sweet guy and she was

00:44:14.420 in a wheelchair and they're like this is what guys actually want

00:44:17.380 it was just like helping a girl

00:44:39.500 and all these progressives like attacked these and they were like oh how can you want to help a

00:44:44.660 girl in a wheelchair like that's like a fetish or this girl looks underage it's like no that's a 1.00

00:44:48.960 normal way people are drawn in anime no guys really do want women who are dependent on them and that 0.64

00:44:53.280 they can help in some literally the only way age is drawn in anime is is if they add literal like

00:44:59.160 wrinkles and typically people don't have wrinkles until they're 50 years 55 years or older so like how are

00:45:06.320 you going to show an anime that a woman is an adult like you can't unless you you make her look chibi 1.00

00:45:12.920 that's how you like it's like clearly a child i guess but yeah yeah just to make but anyway to to

00:45:18.400 quote from her again here i found this really interesting because she's talking about a video

00:45:21.020 game here annette's consent is best dubiously obtained throughout the game but there's an implicit

00:45:26.580 joy that she takes in the submission pass as if annette surrenders to her disposition

00:45:31.700 unlike her twin sister annabelle she never truly chose to use the perverted app demon dash so she

00:45:37.460 can see herself as a victim robbed of her innocence barb's desire are being forced onto her if they're 0.94

00:45:43.420 secretly her own so in dominance annette is freed to be a pervert it's as if annette is saying i don't 1.00

00:45:49.640 really want to worship at barb's feet or i don't really want to be spanked mommy is making me do it so 1.00

00:45:54.580 again you can see again throughout her work is this talk of violation of consent if you look at writing that

00:46:00.640 she's done so if i just take a quick i'm not going to read like the big fiction she's done that other

00:46:05.380 people have done like here she read on her stream you can see here and what's really sad as you saw

00:46:09.300 in this one article she's like oh there's this you know that her whole takeaway from society doesn't 1.00

00:46:17.500 like me anymore all of these friend groups i was trying to endure myself don't like me anymore

00:46:20.540 cis women won't date me anymore i'm gonna go online to ecosportal um which is this this war community

00:46:27.100 because cis women still date me there and i'm like bro there there are not many cis women in

00:46:31.340 that community but anyway if you look at like the things she's writing that people are engaging with

00:46:35.780 because i think understanding this individual sexuality is so fascinating to me that could lead

00:46:39.780 them to this life of dark place just like pure she she reminds me of roger and family guy when he dies 1.00

00:46:48.360 and like his life flashes before his eyes but not not only is he in drag but but it's then just he makes

00:46:53.560 the most evil choice at literally every stage of his life um and that's this individual anybody want

00:47:00.000 a piece of this against my will i won't accuse anyone

00:47:04.800 i did it perfectly she writes it's dire it's urgent you must acquire it a feminization spell

00:47:33.200 you're eager to transform your body and you've heard rumors of feminizing magic capable of shaping 0.75

00:47:39.000 your entire form into exactly what you want blah blah blah blah blah so you you again see like

00:47:45.280 okay this is the type of stuff she's into but what you see here was very interesting is people will

00:47:49.620 say well like being trans isn't a fetish for me what what is this it why is she writing this if this 0.99

00:47:54.340 isn't a fetish this is something that is meant to be masturbated to and it's about feminizing yourself 0.99

00:47:59.020 okay you can say this isn't a fetish but for this individual it clearly is if you look at the audio 0.99

00:48:06.060 that they have because they say they're an asmr like lewd tuber that you can buy f4a breed your goddess 1.00

00:48:13.380 whore t4f hi i promise i'm not the young girl with a kink t4tf one way or another i'm sucking your 1.00

00:48:23.140 girl d magical girl t4t t4t i'm not going to read all that stuff fem by a devilish librarian femdom 1.00

00:48:32.540 a succubus corners you strips you and s your pretty thighs so again you can see the removing consent 0.99

00:48:40.560 from people is consistent throughout these this dream delivery girl returns for oral during the 0.95

00:48:47.380 autumn sale a so again here you see a bunch of this an interview with a mind controlling succubus

00:48:53.280 and her magic girl this does sound fairly typical for gone wild audio to to be fair you know i am

00:48:59.420 saying to be fair but the point i'm making with this stuff is you know your girlfriend is secretly

00:49:04.920 a plant monster girl and she wants to minimize your pretty body correction gone wild audio niche like 1.00

00:49:10.800 most of it's like no no the girl next door thinks you're hot so this is not normal it's not the

00:49:16.780 most popular content the point i'm making is that for this individual and they've written in their

00:49:21.080 articles that like anyone who identifies a woman can be a woman they wrote that in the in the article

00:49:24.960 they're not like oh you need to look like a woman oh you need to act like a woman this is very much

00:49:28.780 this violation of a consent form of transness where you don't need to pass you don't need to do

00:49:32.680 anything like that everyone just needs to see me the way i see myself even if it's against their

00:49:37.260 religion especially when i can force their kids to do it etc etc etc but what you can see and the

00:49:42.720 point i'm making by reading through these is feminization is a kink of theirs and violation

00:49:48.780 of consent is a kink of theirs and it's not just like a kink it's like the core kink of theirs point

00:49:55.760 it's the point with that being the case to say that this is anything other than it bringing other

00:50:02.940 people into their fetish is just a lie right and this is why i said like i think trans people would 1.00

00:50:08.560 not want an individual like this within their communities if if there is a form of transness 1.00

00:50:13.400 where genuinely no kink is a part of this it's just gender dysphoria because for this individual

00:50:18.660 a kink is very much the core driving factor of it if you if you go further you'll see stuff well i

00:50:25.660 don't you don't want to read all of her i i downloaded so many of this because i thought

00:50:29.620 that it was it was so interesting to to go into like all of these kinks that she well if there's

00:50:34.880 one thing in a villain's is 100 it is prolific so yeah and it's been very interesting and fun to

00:50:43.580 for me to learn about because it's like through a mirror darkly like what happens if you indulge in

00:50:52.920 this path where do you end up when you listen to the the lies of the urban monocultural virus when

00:50:58.660 you buy them a hundred percent because anna valence if you read her like sub stack it's actually like

00:51:03.240 decent writing when it's stuff that she cares about and she's not just trying to attack people

00:51:06.200 um she could have been a decent writer right but this is an individual who allowed the brain rot to 1.00

00:51:13.460 creep so deep and desperately into her mind that she is now unable to find happiness and basically

00:51:21.340 just lives a life of in poverty of screaming at her computer and it's a life that she knows will

00:51:27.280 only get worse from this point forwards as society increasingly is like okay this form of degeneracy

00:51:33.020 that you have a huge public record tied to your real name or your trans name you know how do you

00:51:38.780 get a job with that going forwards how do you get a job when so many people hate you for trying to ruin

00:51:43.520 the lives of multiple innocent people and and she believed that these individuals were not she's she

00:51:47.980 believed that if they did anything that disaffirmed her if they called her out for her pda file stuff

00:51:53.020 that that meant that they were trying to eradicate her because in her mind anything that is not

00:51:58.260 affirming is genocide anything that doesn't say well you can be whatever you want and indulge in

00:52:04.180 whatever you want is genocide and that's how she got to the belief that kirsha is genocidal because

00:52:09.760 kirsha does not agree with this individual's take on trances which is is is mortifying to me because at

00:52:17.280 the end of the day our beliefs around gender gender norms and sexuality are cultural

00:52:22.420 predominantly that's that's what drives them you can you can say okay well what's the scientific

00:52:26.880 answer unfortunately the scientific answer doesn't promote transness right now as we pointed out in

00:52:30.820 a number of our episodes on this so you're saying okay well then at least people should have the

00:52:34.300 cultural right to do this it's like okay you should have the cultural right to do this that's why i'm

00:52:37.640 gendering you correctly right but you shouldn't have the cultural right to label someone as genocidal

00:52:44.280 because they have a different cultural perspective of gender than you which you know you're going to find in

00:52:48.560 africa no no it look like to if you want to become a lady but you're a man you have something wrong 0.99

00:52:55.660 something wrong something wrong in your family something wrong in you which you're going to find

00:53:00.080 in islamic cultures which you're going to find in in buddhist you know conservative buddhist

00:53:04.820 environments which you're going to find pretty much anywhere you go in the world they're going

00:53:07.580 to be like yeah this isn't a valid thing even the cultures where they're like oh because we've talked

00:53:11.580 about this before they're like oh you see transness in different cultures like two-spirit and like the

00:53:15.140 thing in indonesia this thing in india and we're like no you don't actually in those cases it's

00:53:19.200 either young boys who are castrated for sex work which we consider more like a castrato or twinkie 0.90

00:53:24.780 gay men which which you know you in our culture we don't say what makes you trans is that you appear 1.00

00:53:30.200 to be an effeminate man who likes sex with men like that's a twink this this appears to be completely 0.99

00:53:35.040 unique to our culture that was the thing that really changed my perspective on trans i realized that 0.98

00:53:38.860 that's when i was like oh this is completely unique to our culture and it leads to a 50

00:53:44.680 percent or around 50 percent unaliving attempted rate like clearly that's a toxic thing why is it

00:53:50.740 that the more accepting our society has gotten of trans individuals the higher the trans unaliving

00:53:57.160 rate has gotten how why is it that when you go within cultures the more accepting a culture is of

00:54:02.660 transness the higher the unaliving rate is of trans individuals in that culture it only makes sense 1.00

00:54:07.720 if you if you're like okay well whatever the way the quote-unquote accepting of trans cultures

00:54:12.320 are treating gender dysphoria or whatever this individual has that leads to more harm then i don't

00:54:20.320 want autistic kids to die like i in the same way that like an adult woman who is like 30 and i'm like 0.58

00:54:27.640 look it's going to be nearly impossible for 30 year old women to secure a partner within our existing 0.99

00:54:31.840 social structure right now that hurts them right but it helps the younger version of them if i was able

00:54:37.760 to get this message to them earlier and it's the same with someone like anna valence if i had gotten

00:54:41.520 to her at the right time in her life she might be happily married with kids at a gainful job

00:54:48.760 contributing to society and and satisfied every time she goes home and and you know her four little 0.99

00:54:54.600 kids jump in her arms you know that could be where she is she could be living the gladiator life 0.99

00:55:00.580 but she's not and i'm trying to help people like her not hurt people like her yeah or just you know

00:55:10.700 living single or whatever and just putting her focus and research into other things that don't hurt 0.87

00:55:16.780 herself and other people so much yeah if she had focused on not indulging in all this degeneracy

00:55:23.100 publicly and just becoming a good writer uh that focused on not slandering people or labeling people

00:55:29.420 not trying to destroy people's careers not riding every woke wave she even admits what i was trying

00:55:35.580 to find i remember now was there's a a quote from her where she's like oh yeah i don't actually want 0.60

00:55:41.880 to write articles on gamergate this is early in gamergate so you can see this is an individual

00:55:45.520 who likely would have been open to our perspective had it reached her early enough she's like i only do

00:55:51.060 it because it pays better and more people read it you know so she caved to all of this stuff early on

00:55:56.860 and in that article she makes fun of mother jones she makes fun of other places where she has worked

00:56:01.380 and have paid her to work um because she's like oh they're terrible outlets but they pay you know 1.00

00:56:06.080 this is an individual who who already didn't like the life she was living but was doing it rather

00:56:11.120 than doing the hard thing which is perfecting her skills outside of the baby stuff and that's really

00:56:15.580 sad i mean she could do what we do if you look at our videos what we do is we do the catchy title cards

00:56:20.180 which are sort of baby and then in the episode we try to dig into like the actual content

00:56:24.260 right of what's happening do a deep dive get you guys information you're not getting anywhere else

00:56:28.860 and i think that that's a pretty good split the difference right you're playing the algorithm but

00:56:33.240 you're also trying to to help people see what's really out there and as i pointed out with this

00:56:37.580 i mentioned which hasn't been mentioned by a lot of sources on the right this article where she has 0.80

00:56:42.140 this big fantasy about denying people consent she always couches it as a joke and we've made jokes like

00:56:46.520 that before as well we just don't go in as much detail and they don't have a lot of correlation with

00:56:52.380 our fetishes so yeah like we're not getting off on that but i i want to stand her side as well

00:57:01.540 unfortunately it's just very hard to stand and then the idea of i'm not a pedo it's like then why are

00:57:06.320 you doing things with kids yeah that's the thing that gets me about this this i'm not a x i'm not a y

00:57:14.920 and what's been really cool is seeing our larger sort of youtube community come together around this

00:57:19.980 you know everyone's been standing kirsha she's exploited because of this everyone's been

00:57:24.200 standing leaflet over this and and youtubers who i previously wasn't sure what i felt about them

00:57:28.600 like ace ended up reporting this individual to the fbi which i think is absolutely justified

00:57:32.400 i would not be surprised if we find really heinous things that this person has done if you dig a little

00:57:37.680 bit deeper given given the things that they've justified within their own life publicly clear like

00:57:43.360 blind spots they have like i'm against phenotypically useful you know lewd tubers 0.98

00:57:50.260 but i'm not against age play like what like what what like so this is a person who seems to be able

00:57:58.140 to justify anything to themselves and so this individual this guy ace who is a smaller youtube

00:58:02.580 i've seen him occasionally mostly just attacking a short fat otaku and at first i was just like

00:58:07.240 he's like an ultra right curmudgeon and i'm like you know what no he's he's on our team

00:58:12.640 because we've attacked short fat otaku before as as well what makes a man turn neutral lust for gold

00:58:20.060 power or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality and so i'm like well maybe i'm realizing

00:58:26.900 that this like wider circle of youtubers has a lot more in common and i think that we need to get

00:58:31.980 better about that like helping feature each other helping promote each other and and and discussing

00:58:37.820 things with each other when i always feel like hey why aren't we been on this channel yet why haven't

00:58:41.920 we've been on the you know so i got to get better at pinging these people we do like for example i

00:58:47.280 ping lotus eaters all the time and for whatever reason he's never had a son or gotten back to us

00:58:51.940 but i assume it's just because you know we're not i've seen him at events but i'm always afraid to talk

00:58:56.020 to him because i have that look of is this guy my friend i feel like i know him really well but i

00:58:59.880 don't know from where and then after the event i'm like that was sargon of akad that's why i thought i

00:59:05.120 knew him but like multiple events now we've gone together and spoken at the same time well thanks

00:59:12.860 for enlightening me it is interesting how one person's attempt to cancel another led to a deep

00:59:19.980 dive on them by many people in in one of the biggest self-owns at least in this little corner

00:59:25.940 of the internet the vtuber corner of the internet and maybe ever so well we've been seeing this

00:59:31.200 repeatedly like what we do in the shadows or whatever that the other guy who tried to cancel

00:59:35.720 somebody this year that we did the piece on so what if he's a conservative is that a problem which

00:59:40.700 the answer to that is yes but the reason that i care is because this does not belong in horror

00:59:46.460 or anywhere i care deeply about horror and everything that he does has demonstrated so far in his career

00:59:53.240 that he should not be welcomed in our spaces or even you know just in public in general every time

00:59:59.560 somebody has tried to cancel somebody this year it's been like a bam like punching elastic and

01:00:03.720 their fist flies back and smacks them in the face yeah canceling doesn't work the way it used to i

01:00:08.600 guess no canceling works in reverse now and predominantly in reverse now we we actually even

01:00:14.080 saw this on the right one of these right-wing guys let's say james lindsey we've met him at a number of

01:00:18.960 events but he tried to create this concept of like the woke right to like further police like what's

01:00:24.240 going on within the right okay well i do think that we on the right should push pit push people out who

01:00:29.180 are just going to sink our cause like you know the the far racists and and and anti-semites and stuff

01:00:34.840 like that i think was a fairly big overton window even when people disagree with us pretty severely

01:00:39.020 we should not be censoring what's being said in our communities if it's promoting the wider agenda

01:00:43.100 um and and he doesn't think that he wants to to censor pretty significantly what's being said in the

01:00:48.200 right um and it's just completely flown back and hit him in the face like basically none of the

01:00:52.380 mainstream white wing forces support him in this and it's been interesting to see that it's not just when

01:00:57.480 the left tries to do this it's when the right tries to do this as well okay well that's good because

01:01:02.740 in the end the sanctimonious nonsense is tedious and i don't like it so i'm gonna go make mabodofu

01:01:10.820 i'm really excited and i'll see you i'm gonna actually really excited well we'll see if it turns

01:01:17.300 out i'm gonna try to double up the sauce so i need to look at what actual scratch mabodofu sauce is

01:01:22.720 because then he wanted me to use that pack you got but you probably also imagine it's too light

01:01:27.940 on the sauce right so shall i do that i don't know the last time you made it by the pack's

01:01:32.880 instructions it was really good okay then i'll just do that safety first that'll be easier all

01:01:36.860 right and you i'm i'm i'm a couple minutes late and the cotton candy machine is shipped it's here or

01:01:46.100 shipped it's shipped it is shipped it's not here yet it is we wouldn't buy our kids on the cruise

01:01:50.500 two dollar fifty cent cotton candy because i was like that's too expensive but as soon as we got

01:01:54.260 home we bought a machine to make cotton candy one of the industrial ones like you have at fairgrounds

01:01:58.040 as well we bought it on points okay so technically it cost less than two dollars and fifty cents because

01:02:06.200 it cost nothing but points i mean there's obviously the opportunity cost we could have used

01:02:11.740 those points to buy a necessity but i just love that what we do is when we see our kids like

01:02:17.980 something we're like i'm not gonna buy it you know i'm not gonna have someone get a fish for

01:02:22.400 me i'm gonna buy a fishing boat oh they want to play on a bouncy house i won't pay for go to one

01:02:27.100 i'm gonna buy one that can go in my house yes but no we've gotten a lot of mileage out of those bouncy

01:02:31.400 houses oh yeah you you looked at me skeptically when i first got there i did you're not going

01:02:36.300 outside though that's not getting wet it's you're gonna ruin it instantly when you do that

01:02:39.260 every time you take an inflatable or some kind of thing outside it works one time and then

01:02:43.780 you break it and i'm not doing it with this yeah are you seeing everyone watch the movie

01:02:51.320 are you happy i can talk this fast happy birthday i can talk that fast

Based Camp - May 21, 2025

How Vice Got Stomped By A V-Tuber (What Everyone is Missing)

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