Based Camp - May 21, 2025


How Vice Got Stomped By A V-Tuber (What Everyone is Missing)


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

196.63809

Word Count

12,396

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

62

Hate Speech Sentences

44


Summary

In this episode, we cover the story of a vtuber who was the target of a targeted attack campaign carried out by a prolific online poster author journalist who happened to execute this targeted attack through Vice News articles and it is theorized that part of why this person did this is because they had lost a representation contract and had sour grapes about this vtitor being trans.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 hello simone you cannot i cannot tell you how excited i am to be here with you today because
00:00:05.400 today we are going to be doing an episode that we were on vacation this last week and so we
00:00:10.180 weren't able to record new content oh yeah we're around our kids supposed to be on vacation all
00:00:14.040 malcolm can think about is this one thing is this this is all i'm hearing about the whole cruise
00:00:19.020 anna valen's drama and so everyone else had covered this already so what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna say
00:00:24.940 you know what i'm gonna go into it in more detail i'm gonna find things that our site is getting
00:00:29.600 wrong i'm gonna find bits of evidence that our site hasn't uncovered yet i am going to get so
00:00:34.860 deep that we're actually going to do two episodes on this because i find the situation so fascinating
00:00:42.780 from the perspective of because there's just so much history recorded history on this journalist
00:00:49.140 anna valent okay just for those who do not know anything about vtubers because unlike malcolm
00:00:56.220 thinks everyone knows what vtubers are vtubers are about as well known as furries and actually
00:01:01.440 most people malcolm don't know about furries either okay so okay so vtubers are people who use
00:01:06.560 personas and avatar to avatars to sort of be them we have an animated animated anime face instead of
00:01:13.220 our faces for example yes they typically comment on things they comment on news stories a lot of them
00:01:18.060 are streamers and so this is about a vtuber who was the target of a cancellation attempt carried out
00:01:25.600 by a prolific online poster author journalist who happened to execute this targeted attack campaign
00:01:32.780 through vice news articles and it is theorized that part of why this person anna valent did this is
00:01:40.780 because they were a not very good vtuber who had lost a representation contract and had sour grapes
00:01:47.280 about this vtuber being hold on you're confusing a number of things here and you're actually getting
00:01:52.040 something wrong that a lot of other people get wrong that we will get into so i'm gonna first clear
00:01:55.660 up the first big mistake do it a lot of people believe and we'll get into this in a second you
00:02:01.140 don't need to understand what i'm talking about here but basically this person did an unhinged piece
00:02:06.000 about an agency a lewd tuber agency called the allure and in the piece you'll see that they were
00:02:10.600 really just upset that they weren't hired by the allure and then kirscher one of the vtubers they
00:02:15.800 did an attack on multiple vtubers trying to get their sponsors to drop them so trying to get
00:02:19.600 kirscher being the main target right they're like also kirscher was the main target but they
00:02:23.080 also targeted leaflet and and and leaflet is our oshi you know who who we push they had a term in
00:02:29.180 like fandom community means the main person we push and i really like her content but anyway both of
00:02:33.600 these were right leaning but not like far right vtubers when i say right leaning and not far right
00:02:38.080 these are the types of people who would say uh trans people are real and deserve to be protected
00:02:43.420 but there are perverts who pretend to be trans people to get covered like they're they're at that level
00:02:48.400 they have not trust the trans rubicon yet to say actually the entire trans thing doesn't really
00:02:52.820 make a lot of sense but that's like their level so they're not that conservative right but certain
00:02:59.460 individuals have decided this just means they must be destroyed and so kirscher's understanding of this
00:03:05.020 is oh well i did this this episode that attacked his piece or her piece sorry not to misgender here
00:03:11.100 we're gonna we're gonna use the this is a she
00:03:14.780 right but i don't want to you know they they put a lot of effort into this whole thing and i don't
00:03:24.620 see the point in hurting their feelings without reason right but we'll get into within these two
00:03:28.740 pieces why you probably if you are an actual like if trans people really exist you would want more than
00:03:35.640 anyone else for somebody like this to not be able to identify as trans specifically if you are
00:03:41.760 somebody who says being trans is not a paraphilias you would not want this person representing you
00:03:47.640 because for this individual very clearly because they post a lot of their paraphilias publicly
00:03:53.240 feminization and the violation of other people's consent are their two primary paraphilias so for
00:04:00.400 this individual their trans identity is a paraphilias and they don't hide this because
00:04:06.740 it's very clear that they do not have a female mind trapped in a male body this is like when we
00:04:11.980 get really angry about like great replacement theory racists calling themselves pronatalists we're like
00:04:18.740 no yeah in the same way that we're like no great replacement theory is not pronatalism your average
00:04:24.200 trans person would be like this is not a trans individual exactly but but the problem is with her
00:04:29.800 theory that this came from this via lure article is that article came out in april the campaign
00:04:35.680 against her what happened was it was a bunch of stuff on blue sky and x and then you have the vice
00:04:40.420 articles that come out that sort of accumulate it didn't start in april oh it started in march oh
00:04:47.100 now here's a little question what episode might she have posted in march that could have triggered
00:04:56.300 anna valence i don't know and this is unfortunately what sort of undermines one of anna valence core
00:05:04.620 arguments about this so anna valence publicly has something called pocd which is pda file ocd disorder
00:05:15.180 and if you look at some of her tweets she will say things like is that a real thing a lot of interest
00:05:20.140 for sexuality ocd as a sex ed 101 stream on additional resources on one of the main topics
00:05:26.540 to discuss pocd there are so many more to discuss is this just is this just obsessive compulsive
00:05:31.820 disorder where the compulsion is being a pedo bear well so that's the way they frame it but it's not
00:05:40.480 the way so basically in the kirscher piece where she calls this out okay she's like this is actually
00:05:45.780 worse than like no contact maps we don't know maps maps are minor attractive people where they
00:05:50.680 try to normalize these desires and they said okay well i i just don't contact kids the the way that
00:05:58.840 pocd is different for maps is they believe that one of the treatments to it is exposure therapy um
00:06:05.700 looking at and i'll put the letters on screen here so it's like a form of maps with a
00:06:14.980 justification for engaging in it that this person says that they indulged in to to help suppress it
00:06:22.040 and this person talks about age play and everything like that which we'll get to because it gets really
00:06:26.220 hypocritical in just a second okay um where you know they or the person they were with likely the
00:06:30.400 person they were with and tomorrow what we'll get into with this individual is they did a lot of stuff
00:06:34.920 with very young people multiple times so there was a famous instance with them where they put a
00:06:39.340 sexual toy in their butt and they played a game called what's it called fall guys which is a game that
00:06:44.820 is mostly played by kids and anytime another character touched them it stimulated them and
00:06:50.620 what you will soon learn about this individual as we go deeper into them which is really fascinating
00:06:54.300 is their core arousal pattern seems to be around it violating other people's consent their most famous
00:07:01.160 article by their own statements was an article around uh public sex and that we need to be having
00:07:08.240 more of it and it's not actually a violation of consent they're like well somebody can always just
00:07:11.520 choose to look away if they see you is basically something they said in one part of the article
00:07:14.520 oh so uh this is taken down on daily dot it took me a long time to get this but yeah and this appears
00:07:20.840 to be the core motivator for their current trans identity they they they have a male genitalia they
00:07:27.040 brag about their male genitalia all the time didn't anna valence also write some kind of like
00:07:32.540 sci-fi novel about how in the future trans women such as herself we'll get to that so actually i
00:07:42.200 can just jump right to that if you're interested to because we're talking about so this is something
00:07:46.680 that a lot of people get wrong so a lot of people this individual did in a few different instances so
00:07:54.860 people who think that this is just one instance of them doing this it was not one instance they tell
00:07:59.000 this same story using different wording in a few places but every time before they tell it they say
00:08:06.560 well i'm just doing it to troll the other side if you look at us when trump what ran what won the
00:08:11.860 election we had the you know go to the breed the mar-a-lago breeding pits episode right like that was
00:08:16.720 the cover article image because i thought it was funny but we don't like go on a detailed and this is
00:08:21.800 what the breeding pits will be like this is what will be done to him in there if you look at what this
00:08:26.720 like we just use it as like a shock joke and like title cards and stuff like that if you look at what
00:08:31.420 this individual is actually going into i can read one of the shorter instances in which they did this
00:08:36.180 because they did it a few times yeah in the future there are a number of institutions that emerge there
00:08:40.040 are community-run institutions where if you are a trans girl you can go ahead and sign up for a
00:08:45.000 reservation slot to an all access to one of many breeding facilities where you get to breed the s
00:08:51.320 out of cis girl p you can absolutely devastate that s effing destroy it murder it you have to cycle the
00:08:59.400 girls out we have breeding saunas breeding bookstores breeding movie theaters this is something we're
00:09:05.260 building this is the future this is what turfs don't want the future that i want is a world where
00:09:10.600 you can walk down the street and don't even have to worry about whether you're going to be able to
00:09:15.080 breed that good pee that's the future for all of us and what you will see is we're not going to go
00:09:21.400 into later one thing is we're in a bunch of sexual fan fiction is consent like it's great until there's
00:09:28.720 no consent and why why does the one thing anna valence has to be so into have to involve well that's
00:09:36.280 what her trans identity is it's a way to force people and we'll see this as we go deeper into her
00:09:42.020 stuff even the v-tubing thing was about violation of consent it's a way to force other people to be
00:09:47.780 forced into her sexual reality so it's not it's not on a gynephilia it's not no i feel like i was
00:09:55.520 born in the wrong body and that's i think what's something really that muddles trans identity is that
00:10:01.100 you get a mixture of all these things there are some people who genuinely have body dysmorphia there
00:10:04.860 are other people who just feel like they're women or like they're men that were born in the wrong body
00:10:09.740 there are other people who love the idea of having sex with themselves as a different gender
00:10:14.060 and then you have people who love removing consent and realize especially given our culture now that
00:10:19.340 this is the most effective way to do that every single moment of your day in public and it just it
00:10:26.020 must be so annoying to people in the movement to have to deal with these different groups well no all
00:10:31.800 the real trans people have been kicked out of the trans movement like if trans people are real like
00:10:35.860 and again we we question this you can look at our trans anorexia video which i think is the best
00:10:40.620 evidence i've seen that it might not be a real thing but if it is real uh you look at the people
00:10:45.520 who would i would say seem to be real trans like maybe buck angel or like chris jenner who were like
00:10:50.260 the original people who pushed the movement they're all completely cast out of the movement at this
00:10:54.280 point i think chris jenner is the is like the mom well not christian who's the one caitlin jenner caitlin jenner
00:11:01.720 they've all been completely excommunicated from the movement the only people who are still in the
00:11:06.400 movement are people like this girl who we're talking about here or like alex vade minnen who
00:11:11.560 we've talked about who you know fantasizes about you know kinky little girls in restrooms we've done
00:11:16.880 his quotes before and these are individuals who have not been excommunicated from the movement alex
00:11:20.800 vade minnen for example recently had a netflix special where he was a comedian you know after these
00:11:25.500 comments they don't even make an attempt to pass but anyway i i want to get deeper into the
00:11:31.120 specifics of this because i find everything about this person fascinating i find the way they have
00:11:36.880 tried to weaponize vice against anyone who pisses them off which we'll get into in a second very
00:11:40.860 fascinating but if you want to get an example of like the types of of things that this person writes
00:11:47.380 and feels the need to share with other people when they got the job at vice they wrote an article
00:11:54.700 called uh-oh waypoint hired a giantess vtuber and it's a picture of their their you know lewd tubing
00:12:02.060 avatar stomp stomp stomp here comes anna valens the world's first and only giantess games journalist
00:12:08.200 vtuber oh boom boom boom that's very specific pulverizing the ground below i whoops wrong job
00:12:15.520 sorry how embarrassing let's start again you see she loves forcing she she uses the fact that she got
00:12:22.900 a job at this mainstream outlet to force people to engage in her sexual role play well and also to
00:12:29.060 advertise her yeah this is the first thing she thinks to do it she earns the majority of her money
00:12:33.280 from her sexual role play stuff which she also says but it's only about 600 a month though which
00:12:36.980 we'll get into all of that tough tough market out there these days right but she's going niche i don't
00:12:42.840 know like giantism there's a world for it but i don't think it's a big one it's it's apparently not a
00:12:50.380 big one but there's even a smaller world for trans giantesses yeah she's playing on hard mode here
00:12:55.860 yeah so i want to get into the the via lure article so via lure was a v tubing agency for
00:13:01.940 lood tubers now anna valens does not mention this at the beginning of her you think there would be
00:13:07.500 some disclosure trigger warning i am a lood tuber who applied to this agency and they didn't get back
00:13:12.220 to me we know she applied to this agency because some great autistic internet detectives
00:13:17.020 found a post where after they did their first announcement she cheered herself on about applying
00:13:22.680 for them but i will note here before we go further with any of this she's going to be like oh well you
00:13:27.600 know pocd is about being worried about being into underage people it's like well then why did you get
00:13:33.320 mad at them why did all of this start when they published this and and keep in mind kirsha was hounded
00:13:38.200 by one tweeter who i think even still is doing over 100 tweets a day about this and we don't know that
00:13:43.280 this tweeter isn't anna valens as far as i know right it seems like she might be because we will
00:13:47.720 get into instances in which uh anna valens says something on her twitter account and then references
00:13:52.500 it in a vice article was her like actual twitter account was like no upvotes well then also have
00:13:57.440 there not been like screenshotted comments but the the comments were posted one second ago making
00:14:03.940 yeah saying somebody threatened my life and the comment was one second ago on reddit and it's like okay
00:14:10.520 how did the vice editing team let this get through well that's i think that's one of the
00:14:15.920 mainstream criticisms of anna valens is that in her hit piece of kirsha and leah flitt there's a lot
00:14:23.260 of non non-confirmed non-primary source secondhand anonymous reddit references she associates with them
00:14:32.480 in the in the kirsha instance she associates with kirsha stuff that a stalker who hated kirsha was saying
00:14:37.840 oh good lord and and like very obvious stalker who was always trying to attack kirsha then she like
00:14:44.220 imagine like giving a microphone to somebody's stalker right like what a vile person and then
00:14:51.020 with leaflet she got mad at her for a title card that that leaflet doesn't make her own youtube just
00:14:57.040 so people know she mentioned this on our channel somebody else makes her youtube for her they had
00:15:01.280 made a title card where she's covering another video where there is a a black person being led around
00:15:06.280 on a chain by a white person and the point she was making in the video is aren't our prison systems
00:15:10.340 terrible we need to talk about this it's basically like slavery in a way and that that was the point
00:15:16.040 she was making but they had a smiling version of her avatar in one of the a b test versions of the
00:15:21.300 title card so not even on all the title cards just one which probably does this happens to us all the
00:15:26.560 time as people all the time take title cards of us like the hope not hate article on us used a bunch
00:15:30.700 of title cards completely that where the episode like should women be allowed to vote question mark
00:15:36.340 yeah yeah where the point is yes they should or the episode of secret jewish technology for fighting
00:15:41.300 the urban monoculture that had like an ominous looking like like star of david and they're like
00:15:45.660 look they must say the whole episode about that women and men should only be allowed to vote if
00:15:51.860 they're contributing and that contributors to society but sure go ahead yeah but anyway i want to get into
00:15:56.200 this v tubing piece because i want to read some quotes from it so you can see how unhinged it is
00:16:01.520 so she gets angry that she doesn't get hired by them is is what we learn in the piece and then she
00:16:07.680 goes on a stream where a number of their talent are talking and so then she writes about this incident
00:16:12.700 where she thinks she's going to get them with a got you moment and she believes this at the got you
00:16:16.560 moment during the stream talent shibby katanabam stressed via lure will accept transgender talent
00:16:23.200 as long as they quote go by female pronouns quote quote live life as a woman quote and quote
00:16:30.300 sound like a woman in quote oh the gen one laugh as the issue was discussed but and now dot dot dot
00:16:38.000 here what does it mean to quote unquote sound like a woman is via lure willing to accept trans women
00:16:44.080 like myself even though i have a feminine voice i'm often clocked as trans during stream and in asmr
00:16:50.360 comments would i lack the right credentials to quote unquote sound like a woman in other words do they
00:16:55.600 want trans talent or do they want trans women who sound specifically like cis women they want trans
00:17:00.900 talent that's trying could if necessary hide their gender identity via lure never clarified these during
00:17:07.420 the stream essentially putting trans talent right back in square one how does via lure feel about trans
00:17:12.820 women what that is the most this is a company that makes money by men who are horny for the people who
00:17:20.520 work at the company okay they're like if you sound like a man or like a trans woman in your terms
00:17:27.460 you're not guys aren't gonna like that they're not gonna want that you're not gonna be able to get guys
00:17:32.680 off right and this is true this in the second post we're gonna do on this person they do a long post
00:17:38.460 about why nobody wants to date them and then they go into the statistics showing that basically nobody
00:17:42.720 wants to date trans women and that's just like a statistical fact so this is a company trying to
00:17:46.800 sell erotic material and she's saying that people should be forced to consume the erotic material that
00:17:53.200 she creates even if it's not what turns them on that companies should be forced to distribute her
00:17:59.860 erotic content to an audience that doesn't want it even though it doesn't turn them on because again
00:18:05.840 her core kink is the violation of other people's consent and i would note i don't actually have a
00:18:11.040 problem with that as a cue if you are engaging with this within a fictional context within like
00:18:17.140 let's say ai chats okay or it was in stories yeah or it was in books that you're reading or it was in
00:18:22.860 young adult fiction okay a lot of it does totally look at 50 shades of gray you know that's fine that's
00:18:29.240 great more power to you but if you engage with it through or consensual non-consent as we discussed
00:18:34.500 with you know ayla at one point so yeah yeah yeah like consensual non-consent stuff that's all fine
00:18:39.780 but what this person is doing is actively violating other people's consent to get off yeah and when
00:18:45.440 they have non-consensual non-consent yes non-consensual non-consent is what this person is into
00:18:50.800 especially public non-consensual non-consent like public sex or bringing people in at the beginning
00:18:57.000 of a vice article into their fetish or you know as you can see here forcing an agency to accept them i can't
00:19:03.700 believe that they wrote this in like a public article but anyway they then you know in the
00:19:08.580 article by saying so let me get this straight erotic content of young girls is fine because
00:19:14.140 she goes on this big complaint that some of their characters look like an anime style that looks
00:19:18.240 underage and sometimes is explicitly underage uh but lesbian content goes too far what that's
00:19:23.760 particularly strange when you consider the popularity of f4f so she gets really mad because
00:19:28.700 she only wants to create and if you even look at her own website she will not create content for
00:19:32.700 it she has this fantasy that there are cis women consuming her content and we'll go into like
00:19:36.660 this being a fantasy because she points out in another article that we'll read on another day
00:19:40.180 that no cis women want to date her but that online cis women are plenty into her and i'm like
00:19:45.100 sweetheart those are not cis women those are women pretending to be cis women because as we
00:19:51.740 know from the statistics cis women basically almost never are into trans women when they're lesbians
00:19:56.260 or anything else but anyway she wants to create this category of content it's like if there was a real
00:20:01.060 market for this why can't you just do it yourself and create this big audience but anyway simply put
00:20:06.660 the genre is not only enjoyed by queer women but straight men as well men commonly listen to f4v content
00:20:13.060 for the same women reason that men enjoy watching real life lesbian porn because it's about two women
00:20:18.340 having sex so i would note here we go into this extensively in our book the pragmatist guide to
00:20:22.680 sexuality but this is not why women on women content is so popular among male audiences the reason it's so
00:20:29.800 popular among male audiences is that average cis hetero men have a very strong disgust reaction
00:20:37.080 to other men and some of them have such a strong disgust reaction to seeing other men for like
00:20:43.140 obvious evolutionary reasons any man who is okay whiz or still turned on by a group of other men
00:20:49.760 sleeping with his partner is going to have significantly fewer surviving offspring than a
00:20:53.960 man who isn't well as women don't need this disgust reaction to other women a woman who is okay with
00:21:00.480 other women sleeping with their partners especially when you consider it certain parts of human history
00:21:03.980 for every one male that had a surviving offspring 17 females did suggesting that females were herded by
00:21:11.060 high value men actually disgust towards other women and sleeping with your partner would cause
00:21:15.440 fewer surviving offspring in a evolutionary context but anyway the point here being is many men have a very
00:21:21.920 strong disgust reaction to other men within their erotic content this is also why very anna valence
00:21:29.480 seems to have a huge problem with this not understanding this why people consume futa the reason why people
00:21:36.260 consume this is because it is a way for an individual who doesn't want to see any males in their pornography
00:21:45.320 have piv sex still within that pornography you as a trans woman are not futa you would literally be the
00:21:55.380 most antithesis thing that somebody who was into that category of porn would want because from the
00:22:03.180 perspective of the evolutionary deep culture doesn't care about modern cultural norms brain you are a man
00:22:10.500 that is dressed up like a woman i note this because anna valence is constantly pointing out the
00:22:16.340 popularity of futa pornography as a evidence that there is a big audience out there for trans creators
00:22:25.300 like hers especially ones that haven't had bottom surgery when this is not the case in their pragmatis
00:22:30.880 guide to sexuality we did a survey of individuals who said they liked futa and then asked how many of
00:22:37.060 that group said that they were also into pornography that featured trans individuals and the result was
00:22:43.060 near zero percent this is definitely the case when it comes to fetish material like bondage theaterism
00:22:48.440 giantess and vore where the premise is more important than the gender of the performers and like that's
00:22:53.960 really effing specific that wouldn't happen to be the type of content that you produce and are mad they
00:22:59.600 won't hire you for it's like oh yes because they've already gone over it is but i'd want to point out the
00:23:04.840 really ironic thing about her attacking this company for their underage appearing models okay which is
00:23:11.080 to say this person has repeatedly talked about how they engage in and promote age play this is play
00:23:19.460 where one of the partners pretends to be underage now when companies have these youtube avatar things
00:23:26.620 it is always an above age woman playing it none of these companies have underage girls playing these
00:23:34.440 models it is literally the exact same thing that anna valens is promoting and doing herself
00:23:43.400 and and keep in mind this isn't like me saying this even her followers are arguing this so if you look
00:23:50.920 at quotes from her followers who support her they're like like okay maybe arping age play squeaks
00:23:58.560 some so it's not just regular it's arping removal of consent age play that she really liked oh no but surely
00:24:04.420 this can't be worse than actually being an effing nazi right which is exactly what kirscher and her
00:24:10.220 supporters are keeping on kirscher is is mid sauce like she is she is not that conservative she's not as
00:24:16.500 conservative as us and people say we're liberals all the time besides i've been on x long enough to remember
00:24:22.020 who anna valens is and honestly who the hell cares a nazi and an openly proud one is one million times
00:24:28.900 worse than a trans woman who's into age play i said what i said by the way here what i'm gonna put on
00:24:34.120 screen which i find really fascinating is so in her article on vice so you can tell basically she's
00:24:39.960 just using vice to push her twitter agenda without doing any real fact checking doing all the normal
00:24:45.180 stuff you would see from a twitter or blue sky activist like faking screenshots like the one where she
00:24:49.060 got the threat one second before she screenshotted it we're here she says in a tweet via lure says
00:24:55.460 straight up no to f4f content as the agency says it cannot ensure success if it creates content for
00:25:01.920 queer women straight content is the vision of the company because of an established method will always
00:25:07.220 be f4m content and i can't see that changing at this point in time why is that a problem but two
00:25:13.440 what she has shared here was in her article is a link to her own blue sky account okay and this is
00:25:21.040 whatever this is called on blue sky only has 77 likes and 12 reposts this she thought was relevant
00:25:28.040 to put in an article and a link from an article in a mainstream news source this is what vice has
00:25:35.820 become is a platform for individuals like this now as i was going to say earlier she's since removed
00:25:40.680 her blue sky she's since removed her twitter she's since likely been removed from the writing team
00:25:45.080 of vice because they removed these two articles from her daily dot only after vice published an
00:25:49.980 article defending her yeah they did so there were three articles in this series trying to get these
00:25:54.620 people canceled trying to get their sponsors to drop them she was trying to produce active harm in the
00:26:00.140 same way that cancel culture usually did and basically she found that cancel culture doesn't work
00:26:03.740 anymore not only did it not work when she was attempting to do it on twitter although she did get
00:26:07.220 they did get one of her sponsors to drop her this game called crime city whatever i don't care she's
00:26:12.400 likely more popular now this really centered kirsha which i really appreciate happened you know she's
00:26:17.560 more famous now than she's ever been we've invited her to come on our show she said she's got a lot of
00:26:21.920 ass recently she so it may take a while if anyone is fans of hers be like hey you should go on base camp
00:26:27.560 you should talk to malcolm and simone because i'd love to help signal boost her um after all this because i think
00:26:32.440 that that needs to be the community's reaction when they see somebody trying to get canceled
00:26:35.180 everybody needs to move around them what i was really surprised about is kirsha through a legal
00:26:39.080 threat was able to get all these articles taken down and i'm like if we get like we've had like
00:26:42.900 as i've mentioned like seven articles in the last month about us on the new york times well i'm like
00:26:46.340 bbc articles i've never thought of trying to have one taken down like i was like oh these just draw
00:26:52.760 more attention to us right like i didn't even realize having a a completely fake article taken down
00:26:58.100 and the guardian writes articles that are as unhinged about us as these articles are from from vice about her
00:27:03.400 yeah well i'd also we don't like legal stuff we don't like legal stuff so another thing about
00:27:11.780 this individual that hasn't been covered a lot is if you go to her sub stack you get a picture of who
00:27:16.220 she is and what she's dealing with and what you learn is this is an individual who by the success of
00:27:20.980 the new right by the success of the culture shift has had her life systemically destroyed she was a
00:27:27.120 woke games journalist who focused on promoting moving the overton window around sexuality around
00:27:34.180 things like the sexualizing of minors around things like you know wizard like age play content
00:27:39.720 with her you know around things and i love it i don't actually care like the whole lolly thing
00:27:44.120 whatever like i'm not gonna go there i don't have an opinion on that but what i will say and i do have
00:27:50.360 an opinion on is her attacking another group over this while promoting the same thing like i am
00:27:56.040 against hypocrites okay and i can be like oh malcolm you want i mean it's entirely fictional content and
00:28:02.380 we know that when you ban something like pornography the amount of child assaults sa assaults goes up by
00:28:08.780 around 50 we saw this in the czech republican who was banned it's been seen in many other countries i can
00:28:12.980 only imagine uh like i know it's something that you're not allowed to study ala got absolutely
00:28:17.320 defenestrated over this very unfairly very unfairly lower the so this is one of these things where i
00:28:23.460 don't know if it's completely fictionalized content if i was to promote a law in this domain it would
00:28:31.360 100 be focused on what reduces the amount of harm to children and if it was shown as i think the
00:28:40.220 evidence leans towards right now it's having this content available lowers the number of children who
00:28:46.840 have to go through their lives having experienced this then i will trade all the content in the
00:28:52.680 world however distasteful it may be so one just one child doesn't have to experience this but we're
00:28:58.360 likely looking at many children per year talking around if you look at the statistics probably
00:29:03.560 banning this would lead to hundreds more children per year having to experience this and i just can't
00:29:08.220 justify that over what is ultimately an aesthetic play i mean whether you're looking at sa offenders in
00:29:14.260 prison often started consuming porn at a later age or you look at as we mentioned before when
00:29:20.340 porn bans have been removed in countries the amount of sa that happens drops dramatically we're talking
00:29:25.960 like 50 like not like small dramatically or you can look at with every percent i think it was every
00:29:32.060 percent increase in internet access within the united states essays dropped by around seven percent
00:29:36.720 just across the board you see this and you can go to our other videos where we go deeper
00:29:41.020 into the effects of banning various types of pornography i'm not saying i like that this
00:29:46.400 content exists but what i'm saying is my end goal is reducing harm to children it is not looking like
00:29:54.260 the most conservative guy in the room i don't know if it's completely fictionalized content yeah except
00:30:00.180 that's not what anna valens was universally doing yes some of it was fantasy but some of it was putting
00:30:05.300 yeah like but her thing was like the video game where she was doing that with actual kids yeah
00:30:11.140 that's that that crosses the line like if you are doing this in a 100 synthetic environment the
00:30:17.180 problem is that she almost is like the biggest case arguing that you know any indulgence in this is not
00:30:23.020 okay because she clearly wasn't able to keep it purely fictional and that is a problem so i don't know
00:30:28.880 because she had these psychological licensing mechanisms like pocd that gave her the ability
00:30:34.820 to engage in this stuff bullshit yeah i mean no no i know it's it's bullshit but what i'm saying is
00:30:40.460 there's just like one by the way people are like oh well this is a real thing no it's not a real thing
00:30:44.260 like one guy made this up and it's published a bunch of articles on it in like 2015 this this does
00:30:50.340 not appear it appears to be a license for authorizing exposure therapy for something that that normally you
00:30:57.660 would not promote but anyway let's let's look at her actual quotes here okay one and let's be clear
00:31:02.480 because a lot of people's obsesses obsessions and compulsions with with traditional ocd or like
00:31:08.980 main non-autistic ocd you're like i'm really afraid of hurting someone i'm really afraid of like no that
00:31:13.720 their exposure isn't okay well now let's go hurt people you know yeah that's not no that's not what
00:31:21.120 you but anyway so she says i've been looking for work in media for the past couple weeks now
00:31:25.540 particularly games journalism and surprise surprise has been a complete waste of my effing
00:31:30.300 time take a look at the positions available on video games journalist jobs site as of this article
00:31:36.340 six are posted four of them are unpaid of the two positions that offer compensation both are freelance
00:31:41.440 and one of them is only offering three to five pounds per seo article three to five pounds per
00:31:47.140 article that's nowhere near a living wage for the work involved in researching fact checking well
00:31:52.820 fortunately for you you don't do that in writing a search engine optimized work of games journalism
00:31:58.100 but hey if you're that desperate go get it five pounds to write a thousand words about the best
00:32:04.700 tokyo ghoul characters what a steal in short if you work in games journalism and are out of a job right
00:32:11.160 now you are effed also if you currently have a miserable job in games journalism but enjoy eating food
00:32:17.960 you are effed and then dot dot dot i'm going to let you know a secret in the media industry
00:32:23.260 in 10 years i have written many cover letters and many resumes for full-time jobs i've never heard
00:32:28.920 back from any of them not once despite being a prolific writer reporter and even published author
00:32:34.340 no one has asked me for a chat for a call no interest from jezebel none from motherboard gives moto
00:32:40.180 ha a rejection email what makes more sense blowing a whole day preparing a resume that will never land me
00:32:46.820 an interview or recording audio where i pretend to be a giant woman that eats people if it takes you
00:32:51.460 a couple hundred dollars this month no it doesn't take you a whole day to prepare a resume i don't
00:32:56.100 but like i understand where she's coming from right like okay at least i can get a couple hundred
00:32:59.980 dollars a month if i do well this is why so many women are our only fans clearly right i mean obviously
00:33:06.360 it's not a long-term solution for most people who engage in it which is why people you know
00:33:11.220 don't don't promote this but i i this i think gives an idea of like where this girl's mental space
00:33:20.740 is yeah this is an individual who bought in to the opposing side of this civilizational conflict that
00:33:29.700 we have been having the side that was dedicated to cultural imperialism and right being out any
00:33:36.120 cultural differences any differences in the way people see gender roles any differences in the way
00:33:39.860 people see sexual taboos or sexual norms or or what marriage means to them or the future of human
00:33:45.220 civilization i mean they they were unmitigatedly the bad guys in this civilizational battle but this
00:33:50.200 person bought into it a hundred percent and i guarantee you they thought they were a good person when they
00:33:55.240 were doing it and now not only are they completely you know unemployable living off of the food scraps of
00:34:02.820 society but they will likely for the rest of their lives be looked at with a degree of derision as the
00:34:12.360 pendulum continues to swing more and more against the abuses of the trans movement i could not imagine
00:34:20.880 a fate worse than living in this person's shoes but i paid five thousand dollars to be a woman this would
00:34:29.120 mean i'm not really a woman it's i'm just a i'm just a guy with a mutilated penis basically yes
00:34:35.660 oh boy do i feel like a jackass he's struggling to find work so she decides to do basically online
00:34:43.880 sex work and complains about it says she can't get a job but still manages to become a writer advice
00:34:52.340 yeah what i was one of the things i was going to talk about was this is she actually did at one
00:34:56.740 point land a job not just as a as a journalist but managing an entire journal team after one of the
00:35:02.760 companies she worked at was acquired by another company she quit within a month said the workload
00:35:07.160 was too high and then set up a go fund as long as she's never gotten the shots in life it's that she
00:35:13.500 has thrown the shots away so i will note here that her career choice around again not just
00:35:22.140 games journalism but if you look at her games journalism it's all about trying to move the
00:35:25.620 everton window on sexual deviancy in ways that is likely psychologically harmful to people as we'll
00:35:30.520 get into in the next video on her where we'll go over the mental damage she's done to herself and we
00:35:35.480 will see a picture of a completely destroyed individual like we saw with this game journalism
00:35:40.120 stuff but the industry that they have touched they also burned down games journalism didn't burn down
00:35:46.040 because of the right it burned down because of writers like her who cared about pushing their
00:35:50.640 message over the truth you know i know if i want to hear the truth i go to someone like kirsha i go
00:35:55.020 to somebody like side scrollers i do not go to somebody um like one of her articles because you
00:36:01.180 know she's never worked in the games industry if you go to leaflet leaflet used to work for riot games
00:36:05.020 you know she designed luxe and pantheon right like she is an og gamer she works at like five major
00:36:11.280 gaming companies and now does in part games journalism and she's interested in a fairly neutral slightly
00:36:18.400 right-leaning version of the truth this individual is not this individual is interested in forcing
00:36:24.060 other people as you can see throughout the via lure article to do what she wants which is you know oh
00:36:29.120 except this except this except this right and so if you look at this background of hers she's finding
00:36:34.680 it hurts her even more than other people in the games industry so she writes it's strange because this
00:36:40.240 was not always the case once my experience as a sex worker was a vital career asset back when i was a
00:36:45.780 reporter specializing in online censorship which is funny that now her main job is trying to promote
00:36:50.460 online censorship sex workers right and sex tech being a sex worker was a career benefit it was a
00:36:56.040 sign that i knew what i was talking about i offered lived experience intuition and digital gonzo journalist
00:37:01.580 vibe that made me trustworthy in and out of the sex working community it's one reason why again i was
00:37:08.400 able to write a book invited to talk at universities and so on keep in mind i don't know if her book ever
00:37:13.920 really sold it was about the early sexual history of tumblr but it actually looks like it could be
00:37:17.960 interesting from somebody who was rotted by exposure to that we can see oh let's prevent this from
00:37:22.740 happening again now writing about adult content sex work and online sexuality is seen as taboo as google
00:37:28.560 made ding a domain covering these topics so my experience as a sex worker is an additional
00:37:33.200 professional liability at least in the eyes of your average civilian why risk bringing on a sex worker what kind of
00:37:39.300 baggage does it bring on for a long-term future as an adult content creator but i also need additional
00:37:45.940 income to support my career a rookie lood tubing lood tubing only pays a couple hundred a month hence the
00:37:52.880 job search so this is somebody who destroyed their career prospects by engaging in what was normalized
00:37:58.280 within her communities and if you look at even her life she has completely created a fictional persona
00:38:03.940 that she has to play to be happy somewhere along the way i stopped playing shooters and started
00:38:09.020 wearing leather i was having sex i didn't want and doing sex i wasn't into i was reading books that
00:38:15.000 were certifiably mid because other people said they were based i was hiding my interest in nerd s
00:38:20.060 because it wasn't cool to be at home real queers touch grass lathered lube and f'd so basically this is
00:38:27.800 the type of person who gets so social pressured by these communities that even she sees the damage these
00:38:31.860 communities were doing to her that she was completely making up who she was even if all she was doing
00:38:36.380 was hedonism acting she then says one day i woke up and realized that i wasn't being honest with myself
00:38:41.080 i was trying to look punky because that's what you did when you were a d in boston i was trying to hang
00:38:47.760 out in bars events and activist spaces that were cool hip sexy forcing myself to go to parties i didn't
00:38:53.520 enjoy listen to poetry i didn't like jerk off writers i hated to read wear clothes i didn't feel
00:38:59.100 comfortable in and for what what good came of it which is really sad to see this this life that she
00:39:08.940 had constructed she thought if she always searched for validation if she always chased the the dragon
00:39:14.440 of progressivism the most victimized person in the room the most etc person in the room the most
00:39:20.020 degenerate person in the room that she would achieve affirmation and be satisfied with her life and her
00:39:25.480 life if you read her subsec is just a constant okay i think i finally found what'll make me happy
00:39:30.520 and then a few months later okay that didn't make me happy okay i think i finally found what'll make
00:39:34.700 me happy and if you contrast her life with say our life where we literally live you know the end scene
00:39:41.840 in grandma and grandpa turn young again or the end scene in in gladiator you know i've got these fields
00:39:46.840 of weed in front of my house i've got my kids i've got my wife you know without everyone being dead yes
00:39:51.600 but instead of sacrificing and working to build a meaningful career that helped people to build a
00:40:10.060 family to have kids to work to make the next generation better than the last this person in
00:40:17.080 an endless search for self-validation and pleasure basically fell to the cenobites
00:40:22.320 doors to the pleasures of heaven nor hell i didn't care which i thought i'd gone to the limits
00:40:28.160 i hadn't the cenobites gave me an experience beyond the limits pain and pleasure indivisible
00:40:35.080 we weren't against you feeling pleasure we weren't against you being validated we were trying to
00:40:48.100 protect you from the inevitable of incessant and without restraint indulgence these days the fight
00:40:54.220 often feels like progressives yelling at us like why don't you want cenobites hanging around our schools
00:40:59.760 and recruiting children like everyone should be okay with cenobites cenobites are the best but it's
00:41:05.200 like why do we promote all the things we promote because it helps people because at the end of the
00:41:09.900 day while it may hurt you in the moment to say hey don't indulge in that stuff don't indulge in that
00:41:14.920 stuff publicly we've always said like what turns you on is what turns you on you don't have a control
00:41:18.760 of that but don't indulge in it publicly because one it often ends up hurting other people it often
00:41:23.520 ends up violating other people's consent and eventually it will come back to you it will come back and
00:41:29.140 damage you and in addition to that because we were right about all of that we say don't engage in
00:41:33.620 these lifestyles yes i understand that in the moment this is the way you want to see yourself this is
00:41:37.260 what you think but as we know from you know the study gender discontentedness and gender non-contented
00:41:42.520 will use in 2023 of 13 year olds who identify with the opposite gender by the time they're 23 over 9 and 10
00:41:48.800 identify with their birth gender this is a phase this is this is what the data tells us now and so when
00:41:55.080 other people affirm this in you even though it it makes you feel better in the moment it ends up
00:42:00.240 causing more suffering than getting married while you're young starting a family and and and doing
00:42:07.080 the hard thing you know going in and putting in the work going in and doing the hustle and and and
00:42:11.800 doing the unglamorous job that makes your family the money it needs to make and i think that a lot of
00:42:16.520 people can see that what we're pushing and they're like yeah but this hurts in the short term but it
00:42:19.560 helps people in the long term and and i think that that's what a lot of the new right is about
00:42:24.260 it's like what actually works what actually helps people we don't want to enforce some outdated
00:42:29.180 gender store stereotype we don't want to out day enforce outdated sexual norms or morality or taboos
00:42:37.040 where we enforce those things is because systems that you thought were outdated it turns out if you
00:42:43.880 look at this all with a sober mind seem to have had some benefit to the people who pursue them
00:42:49.400 and we say this even in ways that hurt you know some of our followers you know i can say something
00:42:53.060 like if you're a girl and you're not married by the age of 25 you need to be panicking it's going
00:42:57.520 to be very very hard to secure a partner and this hurts a lot of the women who watch this who are
00:43:01.020 single they're like it's really hard to find a guy after 25 and i'm like yeah i'm trying to help
00:43:05.360 the version of you that's still young and i know it hurts for me to say this that it becomes almost
00:43:10.440 impossible because guys will play you they see your desperation and they will use that to get you to stay
00:43:15.960 with them and then they trade you out for somebody younger in a few years and and it's horrifying
00:43:20.060 that this happens but they can get away with it because the dynamics are so in their favor when
00:43:25.540 you hit that 30 dating market which is i'll see this with women they'll be like well i'm a nine out
00:43:32.180 of ten it's like well you're a nine out of ten for a 30 year old but the problem is a 30 year old
00:43:36.060 guys for nine out of tens can date 25 year olds and and that's the problem that's that's the and and when
00:43:42.640 they turn 40 it's the same right so the whole system is rigged against you it hurts to say this
00:43:48.280 but it helps society in aggregate to normalize this understanding now if you want to go into
00:43:54.860 other things that the oh sorry i'd also note here you know when we talk about like the
00:44:00.660 underage content a lot of this underage content i wanted to say the phenotypically young content
00:44:06.540 a lot of this phenotypically young content that people are complaining about there was a recent
00:44:09.640 instance in which somebody did a video of like an anime girl who had this sweet guy and she was
00:44:14.420 in a wheelchair and they're like this is what guys actually want
00:44:17.380 it was just like helping a girl
00:44:39.500 and all these progressives like attacked these and they were like oh how can you want to help a
00:44:44.660 girl in a wheelchair like that's like a fetish or this girl looks underage it's like no that's a
00:44:48.960 normal way people are drawn in anime no guys really do want women who are dependent on them and that
00:44:53.280 they can help in some literally the only way age is drawn in anime is is if they add literal like
00:44:59.160 wrinkles and typically people don't have wrinkles until they're 50 years 55 years or older so like how are
00:45:06.320 you going to show an anime that a woman is an adult like you can't unless you you make her look chibi
00:45:12.920 that's how you like it's like clearly a child i guess but yeah yeah just to make but anyway to to
00:45:18.400 quote from her again here i found this really interesting because she's talking about a video
00:45:21.020 game here annette's consent is best dubiously obtained throughout the game but there's an implicit
00:45:26.580 joy that she takes in the submission pass as if annette surrenders to her disposition
00:45:31.700 unlike her twin sister annabelle she never truly chose to use the perverted app demon dash so she
00:45:37.460 can see herself as a victim robbed of her innocence barb's desire are being forced onto her if they're
00:45:43.420 secretly her own so in dominance annette is freed to be a pervert it's as if annette is saying i don't
00:45:49.640 really want to worship at barb's feet or i don't really want to be spanked mommy is making me do it so
00:45:54.580 again you can see again throughout her work is this talk of violation of consent if you look at writing that
00:46:00.640 she's done so if i just take a quick i'm not going to read like the big fiction she's done that other
00:46:05.380 people have done like here she read on her stream you can see here and what's really sad as you saw
00:46:09.300 in this one article she's like oh there's this you know that her whole takeaway from society doesn't
00:46:17.500 like me anymore all of these friend groups i was trying to endure myself don't like me anymore
00:46:20.540 cis women won't date me anymore i'm gonna go online to ecosportal um which is this this war community
00:46:27.100 because cis women still date me there and i'm like bro there there are not many cis women in
00:46:31.340 that community but anyway if you look at like the things she's writing that people are engaging with
00:46:35.780 because i think understanding this individual sexuality is so fascinating to me that could lead
00:46:39.780 them to this life of dark place just like pure she she reminds me of roger and family guy when he dies
00:46:48.360 and like his life flashes before his eyes but not not only is he in drag but but it's then just he makes
00:46:53.560 the most evil choice at literally every stage of his life um and that's this individual anybody want
00:47:00.000 a piece of this against my will i won't accuse anyone
00:47:04.800 i did it perfectly she writes it's dire it's urgent you must acquire it a feminization spell
00:47:33.200 you're eager to transform your body and you've heard rumors of feminizing magic capable of shaping
00:47:39.000 your entire form into exactly what you want blah blah blah blah blah so you you again see like
00:47:45.280 okay this is the type of stuff she's into but what you see here was very interesting is people will
00:47:49.620 say well like being trans isn't a fetish for me what what is this it why is she writing this if this
00:47:54.340 isn't a fetish this is something that is meant to be masturbated to and it's about feminizing yourself
00:47:59.020 okay you can say this isn't a fetish but for this individual it clearly is if you look at the audio
00:48:06.060 that they have because they say they're an asmr like lewd tuber that you can buy f4a breed your goddess
00:48:13.380 whore t4f hi i promise i'm not the young girl with a kink t4tf one way or another i'm sucking your
00:48:23.140 girl d magical girl t4t t4t i'm not going to read all that stuff fem by a devilish librarian femdom
00:48:32.540 a succubus corners you strips you and s your pretty thighs so again you can see the removing consent
00:48:40.560 from people is consistent throughout these this dream delivery girl returns for oral during the
00:48:47.380 autumn sale a so again here you see a bunch of this an interview with a mind controlling succubus
00:48:53.280 and her magic girl this does sound fairly typical for gone wild audio to to be fair you know i am
00:48:59.420 saying to be fair but the point i'm making with this stuff is you know your girlfriend is secretly
00:49:04.920 a plant monster girl and she wants to minimize your pretty body correction gone wild audio niche like
00:49:10.800 most of it's like no no the girl next door thinks you're hot so this is not normal it's not the
00:49:16.780 most popular content the point i'm making is that for this individual and they've written in their
00:49:21.080 articles that like anyone who identifies a woman can be a woman they wrote that in the in the article
00:49:24.960 they're not like oh you need to look like a woman oh you need to act like a woman this is very much
00:49:28.780 this violation of a consent form of transness where you don't need to pass you don't need to do
00:49:32.680 anything like that everyone just needs to see me the way i see myself even if it's against their
00:49:37.260 religion especially when i can force their kids to do it etc etc etc but what you can see and the
00:49:42.720 point i'm making by reading through these is feminization is a kink of theirs and violation
00:49:48.780 of consent is a kink of theirs and it's not just like a kink it's like the core kink of theirs point
00:49:55.760 it's the point with that being the case to say that this is anything other than it bringing other
00:50:02.940 people into their fetish is just a lie right and this is why i said like i think trans people would
00:50:08.560 not want an individual like this within their communities if if there is a form of transness
00:50:13.400 where genuinely no kink is a part of this it's just gender dysphoria because for this individual
00:50:18.660 a kink is very much the core driving factor of it if you if you go further you'll see stuff well i
00:50:25.660 don't you don't want to read all of her i i downloaded so many of this because i thought
00:50:29.620 that it was it was so interesting to to go into like all of these kinks that she well if there's
00:50:34.880 one thing in a villain's is 100 it is prolific so yeah and it's been very interesting and fun to
00:50:43.580 for me to learn about because it's like through a mirror darkly like what happens if you indulge in
00:50:52.920 this path where do you end up when you listen to the the lies of the urban monocultural virus when
00:50:58.660 you buy them a hundred percent because anna valence if you read her like sub stack it's actually like
00:51:03.240 decent writing when it's stuff that she cares about and she's not just trying to attack people
00:51:06.200 um she could have been a decent writer right but this is an individual who allowed the brain rot to
00:51:13.460 creep so deep and desperately into her mind that she is now unable to find happiness and basically
00:51:21.340 just lives a life of in poverty of screaming at her computer and it's a life that she knows will
00:51:27.280 only get worse from this point forwards as society increasingly is like okay this form of degeneracy
00:51:33.020 that you have a huge public record tied to your real name or your trans name you know how do you
00:51:38.780 get a job with that going forwards how do you get a job when so many people hate you for trying to ruin
00:51:43.520 the lives of multiple innocent people and and she believed that these individuals were not she's she
00:51:47.980 believed that if they did anything that disaffirmed her if they called her out for her pda file stuff
00:51:53.020 that that meant that they were trying to eradicate her because in her mind anything that is not
00:51:58.260 affirming is genocide anything that doesn't say well you can be whatever you want and indulge in
00:52:04.180 whatever you want is genocide and that's how she got to the belief that kirsha is genocidal because
00:52:09.760 kirsha does not agree with this individual's take on trances which is is is mortifying to me because at
00:52:17.280 the end of the day our beliefs around gender gender norms and sexuality are cultural
00:52:22.420 predominantly that's that's what drives them you can you can say okay well what's the scientific
00:52:26.880 answer unfortunately the scientific answer doesn't promote transness right now as we pointed out in
00:52:30.820 a number of our episodes on this so you're saying okay well then at least people should have the
00:52:34.300 cultural right to do this it's like okay you should have the cultural right to do this that's why i'm
00:52:37.640 gendering you correctly right but you shouldn't have the cultural right to label someone as genocidal
00:52:44.280 because they have a different cultural perspective of gender than you which you know you're going to find in
00:52:48.560 africa no no it look like to if you want to become a lady but you're a man you have something wrong
00:52:55.660 something wrong something wrong in your family something wrong in you which you're going to find
00:53:00.080 in islamic cultures which you're going to find in in buddhist you know conservative buddhist
00:53:04.820 environments which you're going to find pretty much anywhere you go in the world they're going
00:53:07.580 to be like yeah this isn't a valid thing even the cultures where they're like oh because we've talked
00:53:11.580 about this before they're like oh you see transness in different cultures like two-spirit and like the
00:53:15.140 thing in indonesia this thing in india and we're like no you don't actually in those cases it's
00:53:19.200 either young boys who are castrated for sex work which we consider more like a castrato or twinkie
00:53:24.780 gay men which which you know you in our culture we don't say what makes you trans is that you appear
00:53:30.200 to be an effeminate man who likes sex with men like that's a twink this this appears to be completely
00:53:35.040 unique to our culture that was the thing that really changed my perspective on trans i realized that
00:53:38.860 that's when i was like oh this is completely unique to our culture and it leads to a 50
00:53:44.680 percent or around 50 percent unaliving attempted rate like clearly that's a toxic thing why is it
00:53:50.740 that the more accepting our society has gotten of trans individuals the higher the trans unaliving
00:53:57.160 rate has gotten how why is it that when you go within cultures the more accepting a culture is of
00:54:02.660 transness the higher the unaliving rate is of trans individuals in that culture it only makes sense
00:54:07.720 if you if you're like okay well whatever the way the quote-unquote accepting of trans cultures
00:54:12.320 are treating gender dysphoria or whatever this individual has that leads to more harm then i don't
00:54:20.320 want autistic kids to die like i in the same way that like an adult woman who is like 30 and i'm like
00:54:27.640 look it's going to be nearly impossible for 30 year old women to secure a partner within our existing
00:54:31.840 social structure right now that hurts them right but it helps the younger version of them if i was able
00:54:37.760 to get this message to them earlier and it's the same with someone like anna valence if i had gotten
00:54:41.520 to her at the right time in her life she might be happily married with kids at a gainful job
00:54:48.760 contributing to society and and satisfied every time she goes home and and you know her four little
00:54:54.600 kids jump in her arms you know that could be where she is she could be living the gladiator life
00:55:00.580 but she's not and i'm trying to help people like her not hurt people like her yeah or just you know
00:55:10.700 living single or whatever and just putting her focus and research into other things that don't hurt
00:55:16.780 herself and other people so much yeah if she had focused on not indulging in all this degeneracy
00:55:23.100 publicly and just becoming a good writer uh that focused on not slandering people or labeling people
00:55:29.420 not trying to destroy people's careers not riding every woke wave she even admits what i was trying
00:55:35.580 to find i remember now was there's a a quote from her where she's like oh yeah i don't actually want
00:55:41.880 to write articles on gamergate this is early in gamergate so you can see this is an individual
00:55:45.520 who likely would have been open to our perspective had it reached her early enough she's like i only do
00:55:51.060 it because it pays better and more people read it you know so she caved to all of this stuff early on
00:55:56.860 and in that article she makes fun of mother jones she makes fun of other places where she has worked
00:56:01.380 and have paid her to work um because she's like oh they're terrible outlets but they pay you know
00:56:06.080 this is an individual who who already didn't like the life she was living but was doing it rather
00:56:11.120 than doing the hard thing which is perfecting her skills outside of the baby stuff and that's really
00:56:15.580 sad i mean she could do what we do if you look at our videos what we do is we do the catchy title cards
00:56:20.180 which are sort of baby and then in the episode we try to dig into like the actual content
00:56:24.260 right of what's happening do a deep dive get you guys information you're not getting anywhere else
00:56:28.860 and i think that that's a pretty good split the difference right you're playing the algorithm but
00:56:33.240 you're also trying to to help people see what's really out there and as i pointed out with this
00:56:37.580 i mentioned which hasn't been mentioned by a lot of sources on the right this article where she has
00:56:42.140 this big fantasy about denying people consent she always couches it as a joke and we've made jokes like
00:56:46.520 that before as well we just don't go in as much detail and they don't have a lot of correlation with
00:56:52.380 our fetishes so yeah like we're not getting off on that but i i want to stand her side as well
00:57:01.540 unfortunately it's just very hard to stand and then the idea of i'm not a pedo it's like then why are
00:57:06.320 you doing things with kids yeah that's the thing that gets me about this this i'm not a x i'm not a y
00:57:14.920 and what's been really cool is seeing our larger sort of youtube community come together around this
00:57:19.980 you know everyone's been standing kirsha she's exploited because of this everyone's been
00:57:24.200 standing leaflet over this and and youtubers who i previously wasn't sure what i felt about them
00:57:28.600 like ace ended up reporting this individual to the fbi which i think is absolutely justified
00:57:32.400 i would not be surprised if we find really heinous things that this person has done if you dig a little
00:57:37.680 bit deeper given given the things that they've justified within their own life publicly clear like
00:57:43.360 blind spots they have like i'm against phenotypically useful you know lewd tubers
00:57:50.260 but i'm not against age play like what like what what like so this is a person who seems to be able
00:57:58.140 to justify anything to themselves and so this individual this guy ace who is a smaller youtube
00:58:02.580 i've seen him occasionally mostly just attacking a short fat otaku and at first i was just like
00:58:07.240 he's like an ultra right curmudgeon and i'm like you know what no he's he's on our team
00:58:12.640 because we've attacked short fat otaku before as as well what makes a man turn neutral lust for gold
00:58:20.060 power or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality and so i'm like well maybe i'm realizing
00:58:26.900 that this like wider circle of youtubers has a lot more in common and i think that we need to get
00:58:31.980 better about that like helping feature each other helping promote each other and and and discussing
00:58:37.820 things with each other when i always feel like hey why aren't we been on this channel yet why haven't
00:58:41.920 we've been on the you know so i got to get better at pinging these people we do like for example i
00:58:47.280 ping lotus eaters all the time and for whatever reason he's never had a son or gotten back to us
00:58:51.940 but i assume it's just because you know we're not i've seen him at events but i'm always afraid to talk
00:58:56.020 to him because i have that look of is this guy my friend i feel like i know him really well but i
00:58:59.880 don't know from where and then after the event i'm like that was sargon of akad that's why i thought i
00:59:05.120 knew him but like multiple events now we've gone together and spoken at the same time well thanks
00:59:12.860 for enlightening me it is interesting how one person's attempt to cancel another led to a deep
00:59:19.980 dive on them by many people in in one of the biggest self-owns at least in this little corner
00:59:25.940 of the internet the vtuber corner of the internet and maybe ever so well we've been seeing this
00:59:31.200 repeatedly like what we do in the shadows or whatever that the other guy who tried to cancel
00:59:35.720 somebody this year that we did the piece on so what if he's a conservative is that a problem which
00:59:40.700 the answer to that is yes but the reason that i care is because this does not belong in horror
00:59:46.460 or anywhere i care deeply about horror and everything that he does has demonstrated so far in his career
00:59:53.240 that he should not be welcomed in our spaces or even you know just in public in general every time
00:59:59.560 somebody has tried to cancel somebody this year it's been like a bam like punching elastic and
01:00:03.720 their fist flies back and smacks them in the face yeah canceling doesn't work the way it used to i
01:00:08.600 guess no canceling works in reverse now and predominantly in reverse now we we actually even
01:00:14.080 saw this on the right one of these right-wing guys let's say james lindsey we've met him at a number of
01:00:18.960 events but he tried to create this concept of like the woke right to like further police like what's
01:00:24.240 going on within the right okay well i do think that we on the right should push pit push people out who
01:00:29.180 are just going to sink our cause like you know the the far racists and and and anti-semites and stuff
01:00:34.840 like that i think was a fairly big overton window even when people disagree with us pretty severely
01:00:39.020 we should not be censoring what's being said in our communities if it's promoting the wider agenda
01:00:43.100 um and and he doesn't think that he wants to to censor pretty significantly what's being said in the
01:00:48.200 right um and it's just completely flown back and hit him in the face like basically none of the
01:00:52.380 mainstream white wing forces support him in this and it's been interesting to see that it's not just when
01:00:57.480 the left tries to do this it's when the right tries to do this as well okay well that's good because
01:01:02.740 in the end the sanctimonious nonsense is tedious and i don't like it so i'm gonna go make mabodofu
01:01:10.820 i'm really excited and i'll see you i'm gonna actually really excited well we'll see if it turns
01:01:17.300 out i'm gonna try to double up the sauce so i need to look at what actual scratch mabodofu sauce is
01:01:22.720 because then he wanted me to use that pack you got but you probably also imagine it's too light
01:01:27.940 on the sauce right so shall i do that i don't know the last time you made it by the pack's
01:01:32.880 instructions it was really good okay then i'll just do that safety first that'll be easier all
01:01:36.860 right and you i'm i'm i'm a couple minutes late and the cotton candy machine is shipped it's here or
01:01:46.100 shipped it's shipped it is shipped it's not here yet it is we wouldn't buy our kids on the cruise
01:01:50.500 two dollar fifty cent cotton candy because i was like that's too expensive but as soon as we got
01:01:54.260 home we bought a machine to make cotton candy one of the industrial ones like you have at fairgrounds
01:01:58.040 as well we bought it on points okay so technically it cost less than two dollars and fifty cents because
01:02:06.200 it cost nothing but points i mean there's obviously the opportunity cost we could have used
01:02:11.740 those points to buy a necessity but i just love that what we do is when we see our kids like
01:02:17.980 something we're like i'm not gonna buy it you know i'm not gonna have someone get a fish for
01:02:22.400 me i'm gonna buy a fishing boat oh they want to play on a bouncy house i won't pay for go to one
01:02:27.100 i'm gonna buy one that can go in my house yes but no we've gotten a lot of mileage out of those bouncy
01:02:31.400 houses oh yeah you you looked at me skeptically when i first got there i did you're not going
01:02:36.300 outside though that's not getting wet it's you're gonna ruin it instantly when you do that
01:02:39.260 every time you take an inflatable or some kind of thing outside it works one time and then
01:02:43.780 you break it and i'm not doing it with this yeah are you seeing everyone watch the movie
01:02:51.320 are you happy i can talk this fast happy birthday i can talk that fast