00:17:49.460I think the one reason why this happens less at WeWorks is that it's actually self-employed people who are either performatively working and trying to pretend that their startup's actually going to become a thing when they're burning through their savings.
00:18:00.760or they actually need to like their business depends on their ability to meet with clients
00:18:07.760in a place that isn't their home like the guy who fixed your laptop keyboard do you mean like
00:18:13.740i've been doing on our fab for the past two years i remember there's this old tweet if you guys want
00:18:18.440to search for it in the early days of our fab when it wasn't very good and you know we were just
00:18:22.220learning to make things and it was like oh we won't somebody had asked that and then this guy
00:18:26.520was like what a joke you know just like malcolm and simone this piece of garbage technology right0.59
00:18:32.020it's never gonna be anything that's this big community so screw you it's it works um so uh0.94
00:18:39.120in their marketing they market uh having fake interviews to like get a position at it um and
00:18:44.520you get like success signs and um you you do like boss role play and stuff like that like the the
00:18:51.040guy tipped to pretend to be a client and feel um social function convenience and community is for
00:18:56.900the american ones and then the chinese ones it's explicitly about face saving so family and
00:19:01.820relatives think you're employed and routine so you don't sit at home all day um and then the the
00:19:06.740atmosphere is professional and focused in the u.s ones and at these ones it's often deliberately
00:19:10.720theatrical or low pressure so if you're talking about how big has this gotten there are locations
00:19:17.360in Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou, Shenzhen, Dojuan, Nanjing, Wuhan, Chengdu, Kanmin, and other
00:19:27.080cities. So very, very big already, right? And the skit was only a couple of years ago.
00:19:33.400The pretend-to-work company in Dongyuu, this was reported on by the BBC. The owner was
00:19:39.100pseudonymous, a 30-year-old who had previously run a retail business that closed down during COVID.
00:19:43.160he charges 31 a day desk filled quickly after launch in april 2025 and he has described it
00:19:49.640as selling the dignity of being a useless person wait oh the dignity of not being a useless person0.92
00:19:55.700sorry i am the better one for landing a ship there yes a social experiment the hong zo pretend to
00:20:03.500work infinite company founded by chen yang zin a 1990s born entrepreneur with commercial real
00:20:10.420estate background offers standard desks meeting rooms and more daily 31 monthly packages around
00:20:17.540299 won with some student discounts or attendance rebates reported it would viral attracted media
00:20:25.800and later evolved towards support light entrepreneurship slash freelancers local
00:20:30.880reports note it is not highly profitable on desk fees alone costs of utilities management etc can
00:20:37.900exceed revenue for a few dozen users the beijing locations including yang zin and other neighborhoods
00:20:43.660like shang's uh feature mock elements that have been covered in on-site reporting
00:20:47.180so uh that is uh oh yeah also the thing i found interesting is the the curse of 35 which i didn't
00:20:58.420know about have you heard about this never heard about it i've heard about a lot but not that
00:21:03.020the idea is that once you hit 35 you become harder to hire and easier to fire employers
00:21:08.360younger workers who are cheaper more willing to do long hours the famous 9996 culture 9 a.m
00:21:16.020and 9 p.m six days a week that's not oh yeah but you're commuting to an office for that that's
00:21:21.340brutal uh seen as more adaptable or energetic how do you how do you reproduce no wonder they're
00:21:27.560going out of business going out of business yeah i mean i think it would be different if there were
00:21:33.760if it was like a barracks situation if you could just sleep there or if it was a like a fire
00:21:39.120station situation where maybe you spent those kinds of hours there but then had four days off
00:21:45.080um kind of similar to how it works for couples who famously like nurses and firefighters or
00:21:53.460doctors and firefighters who marry and then are able to raise kids with a complementary schedule
00:21:58.600where there's always a parent at home. That could work pretty well, I think, if you want to have an
00:22:02.880insane work schedule. But I am starting to question working that many hours being helpful at all.
00:22:08.660Well, apparently it's common in Chinese job postings to say that you have to be under 35,
00:22:14.300and there's a viral saying that captures- There's not like a law against this? Surely0.55
00:22:17.960there's a law. I guess not. Or in China, laws don't matter that much.
00:22:20.660wow the saying goes too old to work at 35 too young to retire at 60
00:22:25.680yeah what are you supposed to do for those interim years that's insane
00:22:30.740it's very uh uh yeah i uh i feel bad for a lot of these people i mean i'm over 35 you're over
00:22:40.38035 we're unemployable in china we're unemployable in america unemployable in america isn't this
00:22:46.600also a thing in korea isn't it kind of famous that uh middle-aged koreans end up working in
00:22:52.820restaurants or sort of family-run restaurants because they're not really considered to be
00:22:56.580employable am i just misremembering this i feel like i heard this somewhere people talking about
00:23:02.320it like this class of middle-aged koreans that are working in restaurants because they can't get
00:23:09.580job jobs but i'm probably misremembering this anyway oh yes yes you are getting this right
00:23:16.240this is sorry i blanked there in korea there's a common phenomenon where when you hit over 35
00:23:23.080because there's also a difficult the the phenomenon actually i understand it better
00:23:27.400because of my time in korea it's not just that you're seeing is not willing to work
00:23:31.320it has to do with it's considered like taboo to have somebody under under you who is older than
00:23:39.400you. Right. So if you're like a 35-year-old manager, you can't hire anyone older than you
00:23:47.460because it would be demeaning because culturally they're your senior. And you're supposed to
00:23:52.520naturally move up within a company as you age and stay with the same company your entire life.
00:23:57.520But if you don't move up, then you move out. But if you haven't moved up, you move out.
00:24:02.120Right. That was the dynamic. Yes, yes, yes. And it has to do with that weird hierarchy thing where
00:24:06.700you cannot yes yeah so so for a lot of these people who move out sort of uh i always wished
00:24:13.660i could job in korea is opening a restaurant and it's one of the reasons why the restaurant
00:24:18.100culture is so good but a lot of them start restaurants but it's also why the restaurant
00:24:24.540industry in korea is so competitive um so good so much better than the united states the united
00:24:30.840states doesn't haul a cattle to korean restaurants um and i've tried korean restaurants in the
00:24:34.620united states that try to do like korean chicken they just don't do it well you can only really0.67
00:24:39.080recreate that with desperation uh desperation maybe ethnic korean-ness because most of the0.99
00:24:45.540korean restaurants that we have been to in the united states are staffed by mexicans nothing
00:24:51.900against mexicans it's just that maybe mexicans don't get something deep and intrinsic about
00:24:57.300korean food because they haven't yes you have to work your hardest on something that that's0.99
00:25:02.900something that may never pay back and that uh just the desperation of the korean restaurant
00:25:08.320culture but anyway um i decided to look for direct quotes from people who are using these
00:25:13.380to try to understand uh what they're actually saying about this what they're actually doing
00:25:19.820about this um so quinn one the mother of two left a finance firm admin job developing a not
00:25:28.220safer work product line while using the space six days a week she said i used to blush when
00:25:32.680i pitched my business now i have a thicker skin if i don't succeed am i pretending to work right
00:25:39.020um basically she's actually trying to do like a startup thing um which is more traditionally
00:25:46.780what they'd be used for in the united states and this is from the absolutely uh the beijing
00:25:51.000pretending to work co-location um then there's a person uh yang zhao whose restaurant in
00:25:57.100bound collapsed and he used the shenzhen pretend to work space for 61 a day he said i feel happy
00:26:04.220it's like we're working together as a group he sends photos to his parents and said that the
00:26:08.220place gives me a reason to keep going while he teaches himself ai tools oh that's productive
00:26:13.980great use of time honestly totally yeah i yes oh my god guys if you're not learning ai tools
00:26:21.240you need to be learning ai tools please intimidating it's intimidating but it's super
00:26:26.320worth it i don't care if you're a plumber i don't care if you're a roofer i don't care if you've
00:26:32.460been coding your entire life i don't care if you've been accounting your entire life figure
00:26:37.500them out and a big thing i learned recently not as relevant to us but claude code 5x is about the
00:26:45.520same as claude code 20x in terms of what it gives you per month which i didn't realize it's mostly
00:26:50.640at the daily spend limit that that applies anyway to continue here yang yifin uses the shenzhen space
00:26:58.300rebuilding confidence after setbacks now doing cross-border e-commerce and preparing for exams
00:27:02.760people here told me not to belittle myself i was reminded that if i commit to what interests me
00:27:08.880respect will follow i come here every week it's not so much about working as it is about finding
00:27:14.180myself now that's really interesting because what makes this different than like the u.s hustle
00:27:18.720culture that you would have at a u.s workspace which which is like if you go to the u.s spaces
00:27:24.480it's all like startup people like doing their own personal businesses like hustle hustle hustle
00:27:28.960don't you hustle are you working hard enough where these spaces it's like hey don't feel hard you
00:27:34.400know focus on what you're passionate about i know you're embarrassed and demoralized right now
00:27:38.360we all are because we're at a pretend to workspace um um and then from uh local reporting um and this
00:27:47.260on yin zhen's pretend to work company xi a live streaming art teacher and content creator
00:27:52.120on why she goes she says i've been working from home after a while it feels a bit oppressive
00:27:57.060and i want a face-to-face interaction with other people after seeing the pretend to work company
00:28:01.900online i came i can imagine wanting nothing less this is so not my genetics or my people or my
00:28:08.780culture uh i would never want i'm going to a pretend to be around other people
00:28:15.020it's deeply disturbing my life has improved so much since working from home oh my god and we
00:28:22.740were working from home before we were like unemployed working from home but now i'm doing
00:28:26.240what i want i'm tracy jordening it which one of my two favorite pastimes shall i indulge in
00:28:33.460video games or pornography that's it make a porn video game a porn video game it can't be done0.92
00:28:43.800Look, Trey, history's greatest perverts have tried. Walt Disney, Larry Flint, the Japanese, but they can't do it.1.00
00:28:50.260No, for the first time in my life, I know my purpose. I'm doing this for my children.1.00
00:28:56.100My geniuses come alive like toys when your back is turned.
00:29:00.120Tracy, what are you doing? They need you in wardrobe.0.89
00:29:04.140Let this man work. No one is to disturb him.
00:29:06.520Don't hold your breath, Pete. It can't be done, or else I would have solved it a long time ago.
00:29:10.240all right uh zong wang a recent guy is a graduate short video creator um one day visitor i spent 31
00:29:31.440to experience pretend to work for a day and unexpectedly got treated a meal basically broke
00:29:37.000even oh he didn't know about the meal that's nice fun yeah she also filmed herself in the office
00:29:44.560sent it to her mom captured found a job and said her mom replied something like buy some more
00:29:49.580formal clothes she described it as joking with her mom who wants her to get a proper office job
00:29:55.980instead of doing self-media well i mean that is the most desirable job these days i guess we kind
00:30:02.720have a job doing self-media isn't that isn't that funny it's self-media making money but
00:30:08.660where do our youtube checks deposit do you manage that yes okay just so you know it's going somewhere
00:30:17.960it's going they're not lost no okay okay well there was an early period where some of it did
00:30:23.780get lost if you remember well that's because it was turned off for like three months remember
00:30:27.920no no no it wasn't that it was like before that it like didn't count as us i i don't remember
00:30:33.640um zao wang recent graduate short video creator one day visitor oh speaking of lost money you
00:30:40.800have you gotten any of the other payment providers working for our fab
00:30:44.180no you want me to revisit that i would because that could get shut off at any moment you know
00:30:51.440okay working on that i have bruno on getting crypto working so that should be done by the
00:30:57.340the way because people are like oh i have to dox myself to use it i'm like no you don't you can
00:31:00.420use privacy.com we explicitly chose a payment provider that allowed privacy.com which basically
00:31:05.140allows you to use a fake thing back to the topic and you can use local encryption but bro like
00:31:11.820we don't even store anything oh well so and then zao wang oh yeah we just went over that and then
00:31:19.840zoo jewelry e-commerce seller who has been there for half a month this is a this is a long-term
00:31:25.280user this is a i'm making jewelry now person you know they said i could say i'm one of the
00:31:31.020earliest regular employees i even got priority seat selection i chose the one at the end of the
00:31:37.320row relatively quieter she noted the place is good close to home in a profits off her building
00:31:44.120with good air conditioning and that she finds the atmosphere useful to her work which i get
00:31:48.120certain people do so the question is are we all going to be pretending to work soon i think you
00:31:54.080have a point and that this is providing a real service that some real people may want.
00:31:59.420It's hard enough as it is getting a job. And I could see, you know, people really
00:32:03.980worrying about gaps that they have as they attempt to get new jobs. I mean, even just the process of
00:32:10.440getting a job can create a really, really long resume gap these days because it's impossible to
00:32:15.460get work. So be and also there there is this lemons like so a lot of people argue that the
00:32:23.020market of people seeking jobs is a lemon market. That is to say like the only people who are
00:32:27.460seeking jobs are not the people you want to employ. So businesses tend to prioritize people
00:32:32.340who are currently employed because they don't want the people who've been fired. They want the
00:32:36.680people who are so good that their employers can't let them go. That's why so much money is put into
00:32:42.000recruitment of people who are currently employed and not necessarily finding people who are looking
00:32:46.940for jobs actively. So I think that being able to frame yourself as currently employed while trying
00:32:54.060to seek a new job is even advantageous if you don't have a long gap. It makes sense. I could
00:32:59.960totally see this picking up. By the way, if you're wondered about like, oh, you know, I'm not being
00:33:05.380scouted. Is that a problem? Simone and I, over this entire period, we've never, I've only been
00:33:10.540seriously scouted once. And I'm quite surprised about it because I think I'm one of the most,
00:33:14.680in terms of my track record i remember yeah that was forever ago yeah um well they ended up dropping
00:33:21.200me afterwards when they're like oh you would get us canceled super fast yes but they're like other
00:33:27.040than that your resume is impeccable um but but now who knows you know well we won't brand our fab as
00:33:35.440having not safer work components just be like mud puppy the ai tablet for kids it's so good
00:33:42.540it is so anyway though i i think this is a really good development i think it's really funny and
00:33:47.060my the extra delicious layer on top of it is just the reality that most office work is performative
00:33:53.480to begin with and so this is just the most honest form of office work where you're just paying to
00:33:58.620be there and actually getting something done by learning ai while you're there hopefully
00:34:03.720this whole area yeah one of the things that i find most interesting is having a company that's
00:34:09.360finally growing and successful now is i almost wonder like how do other startups make it work
00:34:15.760right like i had this view that like okay as soon as you have something that's successful
00:34:21.200and people are using and people are sharing and that is best in class vcs are gonna find you and
00:34:26.440start reaching out to you and like begging to be in your company i was like that's why we're not
00:34:29.560getting vcs because we don't have a profitable company right and yet that's we're there now
00:34:36.840and we have a podcast that presumably people are aware of us and even vcs that are like major vcs
00:34:43.760have invited us to speak for them i mean like top five vcs i can't say which ones have asked us to
00:34:50.900speak on their behalf um in their conferences and stuff and yet like nothing i just don't know how
00:34:58.440it works anymore i'm like what are they doing what are they investing in how is this how is
00:35:03.420that entire economic engine determined i don't know i'm i can only imagine that it's basically
00:35:11.900just i know this person that it's network-based referrals at this point just like with how jobs
00:35:18.180end up getting filled i i don't think it's based on any perception realistic perception of merit
00:35:25.660well yeah but if it's network based i mean we have 1.6 million people watch us right but we're
00:35:30.600not friends with the right people who are friends with the people making the decisions
00:35:34.600we're also very polarizing people that many many people really really dislike so
00:35:39.880drew that drew that um yeah i mean it's it's it's been interesting to get to this point
00:35:47.060as people who were faking work for a long time i mean if you if you see my room if you see where
00:35:53.700we're filming from if you see our filming setup it's so faked compared to my i have isn't that
00:35:59.540the opposite of performative work yeah it's the exact opposite i went to my friends who have like
00:36:03.840a way smaller channel than us like one like teeny tiny channel uh our video with her hasn't gotten
00:36:09.260many views if people want to check it out it's uh called oh now you're gonna name her malcolm i'm
00:36:14.740not saying anything negative um what's it called smart girl dumb questions and it's got like a
00:36:19.300youtube channel but uh it's just the basics on us so like if you're looking for something
00:36:23.800controversial it's more interesting a reflection on her and like that world that she's from that's
00:36:29.200like new york elite right where uh you know we go in and we film with her and there's like 15
00:36:35.600cameras 15 microphones uh there's a crew she's changing outfits in between shot you know doing
00:36:43.200like multiple shots a day uh i mean it's it's obviously like a big hustle but it was really
00:36:49.680like from my perspective i was like what are you doing all this for like just get your little
00:36:54.740stinky microphone stick it on your computer put your computer in front of a look this is this is
00:36:59.860what i'm talking to when i'm talking to you guys okay this this is this is where we are this is
00:37:07.660my room okay oh god why do you have to do this to me this this is my level of professionalism okay
00:37:14.920that's that's where we are in terms of content production right now okay
00:37:19.940and i don't i don't think our content production is bad honestly i think we got way better
00:37:24.240microphones we got the big expensive ones because she had like four of them and she was really the
00:37:27.980one who convinced me to get it because i was like well if she's gonna have four of them we should
00:37:30.640at least have two and now we are doing real work i think they might have rented them i think that
00:37:38.340was that came with the studio that she rented well and in our real work i do it from bed now you know
00:37:43.980so that's that's how i do real work all day in bed like kim.com like kim.com what is he up to
00:37:51.460i hope he's okay i wish him well what is kim.com up to he was like a thing for a while like he
00:37:57.800wasn't incompetent i know i know um i think he he went to new zealand and lives in his compound i
00:38:03.820think he lives in his compound with is it his second wife and a ton of kids if memory serves
00:38:08.460and uh hopefully he's happy um so he's in a long-running legal battle fighting extradition
00:38:14.060to the united states yeah while recovering from health issues on july tremendously heavy yes
00:38:20.340In 2026, New Zealand's court of appeal dismissed Kim's latest challenge against the 2024 order by the New Zealand justice minister to extradite him to the U.S.
00:38:30.360He's faced with criminal charges, including racketeering, copyright infringement, money laundering, and wire fraud relating to the file sharing website Mega Upload.
00:38:41.380That's disappointing, given that nobody cares about that type of stuff anymore.
00:38:45.180like i told you in that episode on stuff that that weekend episode for the podcast and most
00:38:52.340people will not have seen it but the stuff that you can get sent to jail for that like everyone
00:38:57.360does anyway that this is why it's so scary to be alive today like we're all breaking laws like all
00:39:02.480of us could be sent to jail as soon as someone hates us you know the wrong person hates you
00:39:06.620straight to jail did you know that before he's arrested new zealand he was the call of duty
00:39:13.140modern warfare three number one ranked player i didn't know that having the highest cumulative
00:39:17.420score of 15 million online players damn okay go kim uh but he suffered a serious stroke in 2024
00:39:26.280it doesn't look like oh he had six children yeah see that's what i said big family big family good
00:39:34.260for him big big compound with all the kids running around that's what i remember reading about some
00:39:40.700journalist coming out to visit him and just being like that was weird but i feel like it was kind of
00:39:44.640like a version of meeting our family there's something about like houses with um a lot of
00:39:50.300kids running around where dad works from bed for some reason no one knows why the kids love it they
00:39:56.040love jumping on my bed now because i'm replaying an old what game am i playing wild lands right now
00:40:03.060rogue rogue uh whatever uh wild octavian is obsessed he just loves it he told me this the
00:40:10.220other morning that he wishes that there were a screen in his bed so that he could watch daddy
00:40:14.340play that game the only thing he wants more than that is to play the game himself and as soon as
00:40:20.120he reaches certain learning milestones he will get a pc and he can he can he can shoot the
00:40:25.300occultists as well um it's simone simone yes it's catholics the cult of santa muerte is the bad guy0.88
00:40:33.700okay a catholic it's the mexica it is more the mexica than it is the catholics it was actually
00:40:39.820the episode on the mexica that made me want to replay the game because i was like oh my
00:40:43.500Santa Muerta is actually a really good bad guy deep desire and it was developed very well in
00:40:49.560this game so like i'm excited how you became informed about Santa to go to latin america
00:40:54.060and shoot people you know that's like in a great we need to make that should be the next type of
00:41:00.160game i make as like a realistic like shooter that's actually fun and good because like i
00:41:04.460haven't played one in ages and none of the new ones really where you shoot mystical people
00:41:08.320it's very technopuritan oh my gosh a witch hunter game i think the game i'm making right now is so
00:41:18.660far right and based people are gonna themselves when they play it hopefully it gets you triple
00:41:26.060canceled or whatever anyway am i making you a quesadilla tonight or what quesadilla quesadilla
00:41:34.500your quesadillas are so good okay good this is the right cheese mix of what it's just cheddar
00:41:41.920it's cheddar and then some white cheese you're supposed to use a small amount of just i don't
00:41:46.640i don't have white cheese it's always cheddar and msg lots of butter and then you you bake it in the
00:41:51.580oven at the end to make it extra crispy okay go for it yeah your quesadillas are generally the
00:41:55.560best so hopefully it turns out fingers crossed i love you very much thank you uh anything anything
00:42:03.720you learned today i was just thinking about our titan birthday day you know like we do everything
00:42:10.360she wants in a day so of course first thing in the morning i ask where do you want to go what do you
00:42:14.900want to do and torston convinced her to go out to the creek to hunt for frogs and torston's super
00:42:20.800excited about trying to find frogs he's gently finding and holding salamanders and though titan
00:42:27.620had initially said she was interested in hunting for frogs which is really toasty's idea she then
00:42:32.560decides that she's going to build a bridge and is like hurtling rocks around like oh she's trying
00:42:38.000to move all the rocks put it right here and then like and she just takes to throwing rocks in the0.81
00:42:44.600water imagining that she's um she's attacking large schools of fish within it the fish never
00:42:50.800saw that coming and she's just like sploosh it's just like me it's like gently commuting with the
00:42:57.980forest animals and she's like like literally saying things like they'll never see this coming
00:43:03.760and i'm like oh what is we have the ultimate tomboy yeah tomboy titan i i love it i love her
00:43:10.320so much i love toasty i love indy i love all the kids octavian he's such a such a sweet boy
00:43:16.040it's for girls so she's a tomboy but she is so obsessed with being oh it's for girls
00:43:21.620yeah when we gave her we gave her an interim present because we had um cbs sunday filming
00:43:29.260at our house on her actual birthday and it was like this really sparkly horrendous toy but we
00:43:34.540found it super cheap on at walmart on discounts we're like okay this is gonna be a good place
00:43:38.460holder and it's it just was in a very pink sparkly box and that was her reaction but in
00:43:43.000the most like masculine way oh dear video cut out it's for girls yeah she's she's hilarious and
00:43:50.640wonderful and i just i just love her i just love her oh she's a very passionate young woman well
00:43:58.740i will get started here oh wait i've got to pull up the uh oh yeah the princess dress you said she
00:44:04.260wanted like you're picturing her wanting this delicate costume and i'm like well what do you
00:44:07.420want to do in it she's like i want to play and you know she's gonna be quiet she's the only one0.86
00:44:12.780of our children who's just scales the fences successfully all the time but she also shreds0.96
00:44:17.260her clothes and i'm like picturing her chickens have been getting outside the fenced area now
00:44:21.000all the time all the time especially cutish and helicopter they just like an airplane was out
00:44:25.880this morning too so i don't know what to say um that if they find their way back they get to live
00:44:30.500i saw cutish inside the fence this morning so they're making it back they know that that's
00:44:35.700where the good food is so presumably they're gonna get murked they keep this up we've already
00:44:42.660tithed one to the bald eagle so i don't know give it time i'm sure when the winter comes they'll
00:44:48.600really get get taken out when the birds get more hungry so the birds of prey i mean not the
00:44:54.460not the chickens no sense of safety those birds yeah unfortunately we don't have any neighbors
00:45:01.240who are going to care on this side of the street about the bald eagles taking about chickens if
00:45:06.940they walk out to their property remember they like deer and stuff like that oh right yes they're
00:45:11.140they're lovers of gentle animals yes they are they're kind people yes um all right i'll get
00:45:16.780started they actually put a deer feeder on their lawn that's how much they like deer when i'm like
00:45:21.720don't you guys have like gardens and stuff like deer are like an existential threat and recently
00:45:26.960one of the things is we went viral because a nick fuentes clipper clipped us making fun of nick
00:45:30.860fuentes while i'm drinking milk like can you believe he drinks milk and it's like what what
00:45:36.400what else are you gonna you can drink a soda you can drink juice which is just like sugar water0.98
00:45:41.500you can drink what kind of fairy drinks sugar water this is very strange to me fish shit in0.94
00:45:47.980right you can drink um like i really don't know what else alcohol but like that's not good for you
00:45:54.720and you also drink alcohol on the podcast well i guess beer flavored water which still
00:45:58.820technically counts um so i don't know i don't know what they want you to to drink who knows
00:46:05.460and juice like whatever but they sold on those uh whatever shows oh yeah no yeah um chris
00:46:12.080williamson on his podcast has whatever it is that a manly man is supposed to it was it's all some
00:46:16.980weird like nootropic drink or a beer that's not a beer you know like an alcohol-free beer like i
00:46:23.500think that's kind of what apparently by the way um a fan was saying because they were talking about
00:46:28.120on the other show the software that we vibe coded that allows you to edit video transcripts by
00:46:32.000editing the text um they were like you should sell that it's like you can find that at rfab
00:46:36.560like just go to rfab.ai go to tools we do we've been selling it for like half a year it's it's a
00:46:42.420really well vetted and tested feature we use it all the time not everything on rfab is by the way
00:46:47.060people apparently have been really liking the comic creator but which works really well with
00:46:51.800the api like the pervy one or the safer work one well i i don't know which one they liked i uh for
00:46:58.620the pervy stuff it's very good at that they probably wouldn't say if they liked the pervy
00:47:02.640ones i guess who knows it's got two modes let's say um and it's very i mean with apis it's really
00:47:10.860good for like family photos and doing really complex photo work um to make like we made
00:47:15.420really nice stuff for our kids oh it's so good it's so good but again if you just want to horny
00:47:22.000chat and ai rfab.ai there for you uh that's what a lot of people use it for um but but we have
00:47:28.500all these creative tools that you know if you if you haven't visited in a while i suggest checking
00:47:32.800it out so very excited and uh we've got a a video game coming out soon so hopefully i have the uh
00:47:40.580steam wishlist page up by the time this episode goes live sadly valve is waiting to approve it
00:47:46.900so i don't feel it's a good time for me to release the trailer yet which is very frustrating because
00:47:52.500i'd like to share it with you guys i'm quite proud of it if you want to like it i am very excited for
00:47:57.460i will note that this is not like a first video game project uh you know sometimes people put out
00:48:04.800a video game and it's like a simple scroller or something like that this is actually tell people
00:48:08.540to reel it's actually a game yeah no this is actually a game that you'd expect to pay money
00:48:13.280for this is this is uh not a not a like he put in a little bit of work you're gonna be like wow
00:48:19.380like and but it's built to feel very simple at first and then like unfold into more complexity
00:48:25.060in bigger systems as you play it um to to create a simple feel that pulls you forward but anyway
00:48:30.400it's along with is this because your brother made a game and you're like
00:48:33.300i will see your game and raise you no it's because it was the sabbath and on the sabbath we have a
00:48:38.900rule that you can only start new things you can't do like existing work or routine or anything like
00:48:44.420that just anything that like you feel like doing that's not work work defined by things that you're
00:48:49.700doing every week um and i was like well i've always been meaning to do this as i started doing
00:48:55.440it that one day and then because it was something i already started i couldn't work on it on other
00:48:58.580sabbaths but i got pretty far with it and it's really nice looking and i think it could be a
00:49:02.820great advertisement for the rfab api in use because that's how i made it all but if you
00:49:07.440want to make a video game this is like a requirement to make it with good graphics good
00:49:12.020cinematics rfab.ai backslash api copy and paste what you find there it used to not work in grok
00:49:17.840now it does anyway i'll get started baby oh mommy and baby show me mommy and baby no no that one is
00:49:28.640the dad tiger the dad oh my god this one is going in here oh my god there she goes0.95
00:49:36.160well like she's trying to find a safe dark place to hide maybe you can put her in her real