The Left Discovers Trolling： Trolling No Longer Cool (Gavin Newsom's Glow Up)
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Summary
Gavin Newsom has figured out trolling, and the left is loving it. Is trolling a necessary part of modern politics, or is it something that needs to be fought against? Is trolling good or bad, and what role does trolling play in modern politics?
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about
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gavin newsom and he figured out trolling and the left didn't exactly figure it out
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you know he's sort of the human personification of the left can't meme but he has started trolling
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and the left is loving it this is like in jurassic park when the raptors figured out how to use door
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handles yeah except not really but he's getting traction i just think it's it's too soon he's
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also it's a wider theme of this episode what i want to ask is because some people have been saying
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this they go you do not appear to be able to have a voice within modern american politics without
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trolling that trolling is a necessary part of playing the current political game and i would
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argue yes yes it is and this isn't necessarily a bad thing as a lot of people say i mean we
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have grown our political platform through trolling and i love this left is attempting to troll now
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because it comes off so bad sorry i remembered that we have a bunch of non-american viewers
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gavin newsom right now is the democrats top contender to be running against jd vance in the
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next presidential election cycle so this this ends up coming so bad because people are sharing these
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photos of gavin newsom against oh you showed me one yeah and gavin newsom looks like a bully
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like if you look at these not like a bully but like your standard rich bully kid like if
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physiognomy has anything he looks like a bully and he looks american psycho yeah he looks like an
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he and he acts like it like even today so if you gavin newsom acts like patrick bateman from
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american psycho like his whole thing feels so constructed he saw trump doing well by trolling
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people and so then he goes and tries to troll people if you look at his political rear up this
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he's just been like a chameleon copying and copying and copying whatever he sees somebody else doing
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there is an idea of a patrick bateman some kind of abstraction but there is no real me
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only an entity something illusory and though i can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand
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and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable
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i simply am not there i mean i think patrick bateman is a much better name for him than newscom which
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is trump's but trump by the way got that i'll play a video of him admitting this but he said that
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some kids called him this in seventh grade and it hurt his feelings i have my kids friends calling
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my kids new scum that i get because i was called that in seventh grade
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bought it oh god i remember having his feelings hurt for something so effing stupid from the seventh
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grade oh good heavens the progressives like trump can sniff out weakness like a hound dog or something
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and i'm like yeah i guess here's another fun early picture of the two where gavin newsom uh after high
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school got money from the gettys to buy a vineyard in napa and uh jd vance went to join the military
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because you know of course poor family but this guy's going up against jd vance and jd vance you look
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at him for the agami and i go this guy looks like a guy who played magic the gathering and believe it
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or not he was actually a very big fan and still a big fan of magic the gathering so that's what he
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looks like and i think that we saw this and we pointed this out in the last election cycle was the
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left because it is now the culture of the urban monoculture the dominant culture in society and now
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is attempting to impose those urban monocultural values has become the party of the bully and they use
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this in their speech i mean the right because we are not the dominant culture we intrinsically are
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weird that's how weirdness is defined it's by distance from what is seen as culturally normal
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absolutely and so you're weird if you're an orthodox jew you're weird if you're an evangelical
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christian you're weird if you're jd vance and a fat kid who plays magic the gathering and does
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nerdy socially awkward things like in one of the pictures they have him like standing in a bathroom
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was like two women you know like they're they're they're nerdy kids goofing off and that you're
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like oh how could you do that like what what do you have no fun like what were you were you the
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gavin newsom of your high school right like and i want to point point out here so one
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when the progressives did this last time the the scene from revenge of the nerds because that's
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exactly what they are they've been just bullies democrats and the harris campaign now deploying
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a new adjective to blast the republican ticket some of what he and his running mate are saying
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well it's just plain weird get those nerds i mean on the other side they're just weird
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where are they i think they're talking about us no way
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and i think that everybody and this is great i mean i hope gavin newsom wins and does this in the
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next thing he's gonna look like a bully he already you hope he wins the primary you mean for oh yeah
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because he's gonna try to use trump like tactics against the sweet and practical jd vance who who
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doesn't do this in the same way he only yeah when you look at pictures of them too the the other
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differentiator is clearly one's coming from money and clearly one's not oh one is representative of
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most americans and one is not and it's super easy to tell this is what really gets me as well is is is
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gavin newsom has gone with his whole i'm wasn't a rich kid thing so i'll get to what he says in
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regards what how if you know jd vance jd vance grew up in actual poverty there's like the scene where
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his grandma was going to set their grandpa on fire for coming home late and somebody had to hide the
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matches or something um meemaw meemaw meemaw the hardcore person you know he grew up in actual
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you know appellation region poverty and he was raised by his meemaw because his mother was
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dealing with really intense drug addiction like again this is not the story and then in the
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meantime when this guy was fat and being picked on and playing nerdy games gavin newsom this is what
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he has to say about his childhood okay spoken out about feeling like an outsider at times due to his
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learning disability he has dyslexia oh his i have dyslexia not an issue it's not a real learning
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disability it's a learning inconvenience and the instability from the divorce but he also
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benefited from a network of wealthy san francisco families so oh let's let's let's talk about this
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this poor struggling divorced family by the way my my parents got divorced when i was a kid it's
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it's non-issue yes newsom's family had deep ties to the getty oil fortune but it wasn't directly
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personal wealth for young gavin um more like access to elite circles and opportunities through his
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father's role william newsom was a close friend and financial advisor to the billionaire gordon getty
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son of oil tycoon jay paul getty managing the getty family trust which was worth billions of dollars
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his dad managed a billions of dollar trust just because he was friends with a guy wow gavin attended
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high school was one of the getty's sons billy and the families were intertwined gordon even helped fund
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some of newsom's early business ventures later in life like his clump jack wine shop in 1992
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however newsom pushed back on portrayals of his childhood as privilege emphasizing that his
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mother struggled financially post-divorce yeah but what about your father what no no no no no sorry
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what what about your father buddy who was running the multi-billion dollar hedge fund
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in the 80s that's a lot more money back then you were you never financially struggled and this
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sort of stolen valor when you're contrasting it with somebody like jd vance and you're contrasting
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it with this guy who looks like a bully and will show that he still acts like a bully like he still
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has this inclination he bullied trump before trump ever did anything to bully him or his side which we'll
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get into as well his net worth today is 20 to 25 million dollars which almost entirely comes from
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businesses that the getty family funded for him ah must be nice yeah must be nice but no no i i think
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that this is something that we need to come back to regularly when we're framing this oh and i'll note
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here that people started calling him because he's he's added this just trolling and we'll go over some
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of his trolling this idea that he's christopher columbus because he he redraws maps so much this has to do
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oh you mean like california redistricting kind of math gerrymander california even though california's
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already pretty gerrymandered by the way if you look at gerrymandering gerry if you if you created
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a federal law against gerrymandering the democrats would fight against it like crazy because democrat
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gerrymandering on average helps democrats and not republicans so i decided to check to see if this
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was still true and it looks like these days it's about 50 50 in terms of who benefits from
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gerrymandering maybe leaning republican but that's probably because most newspaper publications that
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report on this are democrat leaning i mean yes republicans are attempting to gerrymander texas but
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it wouldn't even even out the existing gerrymandering but he's like threatening gerrymandering in
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california more gerrymandering against texas and he's doing this little christopher columbus thing which
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is funny because he advocated for the taking down not not democrats he himself advocated for the taking
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down of christopher columbus statues in in 2029 so uh okay like just forgetting any any form of
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continuity here you know he's a face dealer just whatever he sees doing well he's gonna he's gonna
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copy and imitate before i go further in this one i found funny here are the two's family photos next to
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each other one of these guys is considered a white nationalist and the other one isn't would you
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ever guess which one it is from these family photos before i get into some of the failures and
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controversies associated with him you grew up with this guy right like yeah the really funny thing is
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i i was not politically involved as a kid and yet i have this deep entrenched understanding of gavin
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newsom on as a like an extremely savvy slash slimy or at least like very tactical political player
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who was always thinking about himself and how to look the right way and there were these political
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cartoons that ran in the san francisco chronicle that always depicted him a certain way and drew him
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this really certain way that was just he was just always depicted as being so slick and it's crazy to
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see just that throughout my lifetime nothing has changed i mean the haunted by this slick face stealing
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patrick bayman yes yeah like the it was the the comic was called bad reporter i'll try to find some
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images of it i can share with you and it the long game is i respect the long game i mean he's been
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going for it kind of how like pete buddha judge had the same like sort of career long game approach
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of you know first i'm going to serve in the military and then i'm going to do this and then i'm going to
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do that gavin newsom has been doing it but just within the realm of politics for such a long time
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i feel though like he's he's making some kind of breakthrough right now leveraging the fact that
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trump won using this podcast he launched he's getting traction in a way he's never gotten traction
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before outside the realm of just san francisco and then just california yeah no i i agree that this
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is working for him in a way and i'll note here when i'm talking about him making fun of trump
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before trump ever did him you go back to trump's first run when all the democrats acted like he was
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a joke and you have gavin newsom tweeting things like donald trump this week let's get back to the
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issues like just joking proceeds to take time giving his his rating of an actor on a comedy show
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so he's sort of mocking trump as a distraction back here when they were back in 2016 egged on if
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donald trump can't stand up to billy bush how can he ever handle the pressure that the oval office
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and i and i and then in a picture of him next to donald trump jr he says tough choice one now leads
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the world's fourth largest economy the other sells phones you know trying to just from the very beginning
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he can't be like oh i i'm only just now taking the low road he took the low road from the beginning
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and i'll note here and we contrast gavin newsom with other times when people have decided to make fun
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trump trump trump is motivated by this stuff this is what keeps him going right you're you're giving
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donald trump is here since recently in an episode of celebrity apprentice the men's cooking team did not
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impress the judges and there was a lot of blame to go around but you mr trump recognize that the real
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problem was a lack of leadership and so you fired gary music
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say what you will about not funny bigly not funny oh i'll get your birth certificate obama
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it's okay trump they probably already forgot about the jokes let's just see what's on the
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telecom donald trump humiliated by the leader of the free world tonight at the white house
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correspondent dinner yes wolf it was very clear who was the president of the united states and who
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was the buffoon yeah welcome back to our 24 7 coverage of the utter humiliation of donald trump
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say what you will about uh mr trump he certainly would bring some change to the white house
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to get him this is a guy who's doing all this like he's like oh i run the fourth largest economy
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california is bleeding people right now just tons and tons of people are leaving the state
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i think i was looking at over a million people since he took office have left the state
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which is insane people do not want to be in the area that you're running
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they're fleeing yeah and he also lit the state on fire which was pretty crazy that somebody did that
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i mean aside from the literal fires or just like you're i'm joking the literal fires so
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in 2021 he claimed 35 priority projects from a 2019 executive order treating 90 000 acres of land
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the problem is only 11 000 or 13 000 were actually treated so he lied by 690 percent
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and he did this through cutting 150 million dollars from cal fire's mitigation budget that year
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despite them having a surplus and so you can be like oh well he was doing that to save taxpayer money
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and it's like oh no let's see where he was sending that money okay instead
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yeah the task force to study reparations for black californians including historical research and
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recommendations for compensation that they spent 12 million dollars on research for reparations
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that obviously research oh gosh he gave 1.48 million dollars to his weiss non-profit
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selling gender equity curriculums to schools massive spending on homeless programs with 24 to 37
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billion dollars on his homeless programs but oh what did those programs spend the money on local
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coc boards which coordinate federal and state homeless funds e.g 683 million dollars had dedicated
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racial equity committees to analyze disparities and prioritize services for underrepresented groups
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like black californians who made up sacramento coc for instance removed its committed its committee and
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scrubbed terms like racial equity i don't understand this with federal oh they had to remove all that
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due to the anti-dei rules no specifics are tied to it but it's estimated that 24 to 37 billion in state
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homeless funding have gone to this sort of stuff yeah the total net that left is a million and 42
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although some sources show around 800 000 gosh but i can hear pull up i thought that this was was
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interesting because the progressives are sort of freaking out about this and i thought that this
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meme was good by paul f thomas and he goes quote i'm sick of these purity tests because a lot of
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progressives are like oh he's not progressive enough no it's perfect newsom may not care about homeless
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people or trans people but he's the only one hiring social media posters to ask chat gpt to talk like
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trump this is the kind of social media posting we need right now or don't you care about democracy
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but that is like basically what he's doing right his social media interns to talk like and that's the
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thing about this is with newsom it comes off as so inauthentic because we all know that when trump
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account tweet something it's not a social media manager it is trump it's trump kofefe yes you know
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that gavin newsom isn't tweeting any of this it's some social media intern who's been given direction
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that that our analytics show that this works this is no different than like the coca-cola account when
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it gets on like a streak or something like that and then you accidentally like coca-cola
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i'd also note he is a so let's go into some of the individuals trolling he's done
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and why you sort of need to troll in this information economy
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so newsom's press office tweeted in all caps um and i will say funny apparently trump has stopped
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tweeting in all caps as much since newsom started doing it oh no which is i i don't care one way or
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the other quote all caps by the way not even just sorry not even jd quote just dance in quote vance
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wait is this his insult to jd vance seriously just dance vance that sounds like a an affectionate
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nickname yeah also where's the relevance why don't you ask ai where the relevance is surely he thinks
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something about that is funny just dance fans can save trump from the disastrous maps war he has
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started what you guys as i pointed out the democrats do more gerrymandering than republicans but okay not
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even his eyeliner looks as pretty as california map lines oh wow pressing for gender norms there buddy
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i mean i get it so he's making fun of jd vance for i guess reportedly wearing eyeliner that doesn't that
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make him look heteronormative what's even worse is that the nickname is not tied to anything from
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vance's personal history but rather is a satirical play on his initials in the popular video game
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series just dance it has nothing to do with jd vance's actions or history and then trump trump has has the
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going back to the game yeah to find a seventh grade bully name and i know i love it it's like
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he he comes at them with like a wiffle bat you know like it's smacking jd vance and trump just
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walks by with like a shiv and like stabs the guy and then yeah remember that traumatic experience in
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the seventh grade well i got something special for you yeah he's like remember that experience you said
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still traumatizes you to this day yeah remember what used to call you remember what used to cry
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about at three in the morning yeah that is i just sorry i just love that that difference in approach
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he doesn't get it he doesn't get it he's like coming out here like it goes on he will fail as he
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always does sad exclamation mark and i the peacetime governor our amer our nation's favorite will save
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america once again many are calling me gavin christopher columbus newsome because of the maps
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thank you for your attention to this matter gcn so he he made up this nickname for himself then
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wrote because of the maps exclamation mark trying to write in a trump style i love the adding sad with
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an exclamation mark to make it more trump style he's literally just he's appropriating not only
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christopher columbus after apparently he advocated for the removal of christopher columbus statues but
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is appropriating trump's language that is so sad it's showing trump invented something that appears
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to work for me too so i guess i'll use it i mean obviously he's claiming this is all satirical but
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nothing about it is actually satirical it's all not no when you copy something like maybe if it were
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only all caps stuff i'm trying to think of like a way that he could have done this that wasn't
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extra cringy in a not good way so a fun part of this by the way is this political argument
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which bridget what's her name british phantasy where i also got the patrick bateman idea from i
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she's got a great channel very similar to ours who we met at hereticon that bridget met british phantasy
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i guess we did she's the one who introduced our talk yeah she was the emcee oh youtube channel
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where she comments i remember thinking she was so nice at hereticon but i didn't watch her channel
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yet and now she's just like oh yeah i'm like a low-key influencer but like not that big she was huge
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and she's still huge so yeah you know she's not twice as big as us yeah she's no we should reach
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right now she's a very delightful woman i in person by the way this is me saying like i met her i didn't
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know she was famous at the time when i met her now that i'm putting the two people together i'm like oh
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that was the same person was very nice very delightful very warm not one of those like oh you meet you
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not even remotely pretentious just super cool yeah yeah but it also is face blind for for reference
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this is why he can meet someone at a conference and have absolutely no idea it's an influencer whose
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content he's been consuming so she i didn't watch her channel yet back then on politico she said that
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this article de-sucked gavin newsom and it was really gross but i'll just do a quote from the article
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here so you can get a idea of how much because all of the gems are they love that he's doing this
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because they think that the republicans are freaking out that he's doing this instead of
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just looking at them as like a like yeah it's really sad but they think that they're scoring wins
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newsom has entered the digital dojo and he's performing the sort of mimetic jujitsu that's
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scaring republican white belts unused to actual competition smith tells politico for too long
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democrats have been poisted up in the parking lot too afraid of getting it wrong to throw a jab
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this should energize folks to get into the octagon and and then they send this to trump
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to ask for comment and he sends back a meme of course the the what the first all meme no not even
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context that was just the meme of the the one guy being like something something something and then
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the madman like i don't even know who you are response many people have pointed out that this may
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have been a bad meme to use in this instance because in the original context of the show he was trying
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to hide that he did knew who he was and he was hiding his insecurity but i really don't think
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i i i do not think there is any mainstream republican who wouldn't love gavin newsom to be our competitor
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in the next election cycle he would be so easy for jd to beat well especially when you look at his track
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record with california and where california is now he has to still answer for that plus the fact that his
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background is so not relatable to the average person that he came from so much privilege he's not a man
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of the people i mean yes george bush for example came from an extremely privileged you can even argue
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aristocratic family but he was folksy and down home and fun and gavin newsom is is he tries to be that but
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you you know it's not genuine and authenticity is like the top thing that especially younger voters
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care about so yeah yeah no i was talking to a political reporter recently and the democrats
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struggle so much with authenticity and i think gavin newsom uniquely struggles and we were talking about
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who could run instead of jd vance on the right and i threw out there i was like well she said rfk and i
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like yeah rfk would be great the bear story wonderful uh you you run into it you see roadkill
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bear and you decide you're gonna eat it and then you realize that you can't get it to your fridge in
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time so you leave it in a bike lane to create a story about a bear being struck by a bike in a
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controversial bike lane that had been put up and that goes by this effing hilarious i would never
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not vote for somebody who's that funny and that down home that they see roadkill and their first thought
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is well yeah and get away with it for so many years like never reveal it keep your mouth shut
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until you know someone's gonna leak it and then energy right there so i love that or joe rogan
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would be great i said joe rogan would be great totally yeah but but then she was like well what
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about rubio and i was like rubio would be a great democratic candidate yeah yeah well no he's that old
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type of candidate that like yeah tries to be a politician who doesn't you know has a clean record and
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isn't a character really yeah it's nothing there to play with you have to be character now i mean
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the thing though is that gavin newsom if he were to lean into his villain energy i think could be
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you know more interesting like dark biden if that became a concept like if if that was tacked onto
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someone with a little more youth and agency it would be a lot of fun or dr brandon and if if gavin newsom
00:26:42.280
instead was like yeah i am the american psycho i am the you know the the mercenary sociopath is going
00:26:50.600
to do what it takes to make our country win yeah that could be interesting and i mean and he that is
00:26:57.100
him that's also authentic well i don't not america win for him but making me win but still i feel like
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people could get behind that yeah what he's doing now isn't gonna sell lacks the authenticity i mean
00:27:10.040
he's got hardcore american psycho energy like yeah so own it you know like make that your whole look
00:27:16.520
here are some more tweets you can get an idea of of what it looks like when he tries to do this and
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i really is quite cringy compared to what trump does right wow all caps this is all all caps the maps
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the best maps ever made will soon pass in the greatest legislature everywhere in the world not
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just america people are already screaming mama mama and i say no i am your daddy three exclamation marks
00:27:41.860
thank you usa three exclamation marks that's gross no no no no no no what he should do is with his
00:27:52.080
podcast it should be a video podcast if it's not he should have like sponsorship with those all those
00:27:58.040
face mask companies and just show his like morning routine but like all shot american psycho style
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that would be great just like really i don't know just over the top self-owning trump self-owns all the
00:28:13.120
time james dance you know retweets south park episode stuff you know they don't have a laugh
00:28:20.860
yeah when i point out that he isn't afraid of you know revealing his own sort of like we recorded an
00:28:28.640
episode who knows where it goes live on trump's religious beliefs and in that thing where everybody
00:28:34.120
always is like you know trump said you know he did he's never asked god for forgiveness because he
00:28:40.400
doesn't have you know anything to ask forgiveness for it's actually a bit more nuanced to that when
00:28:44.720
you see his full take he said that he thought it was more important that he tried to solve his
00:28:50.960
mistakes himself um rather than externalize it is essentially the way he framed it yeah and he said
00:28:56.800
after that he goes and i know that this isn't the answer i'm supposed to get he's like i i know that i
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can get in trouble for saying this and i should just be saying but that's being honest and isn't that
00:29:06.420
great yeah or recently when he's like talking about getting into heaven right you know he's like
00:29:12.460
well if i could say 7 000 people a day i think i get into heaven because you know people out there
00:29:16.540
are saying i'm not high on that list and he's out there saying this about himself yeah yeah i do just
00:29:23.820
love the concept of making it right i mean asking god for forgiveness is messed up for me twofold
00:29:30.920
one it makes you think you can be absolved of your flaws without fixing the problem but two
00:29:38.200
who has the gumption to believe that god is personally offended by you messing up god who made you
00:29:47.580
that's like no he's not that immature man like he's got bigger things to worry about than
00:29:53.820
the fact that you slept with someone outside of the bonds of marriage or something right so
00:29:59.660
yeah i'm with trump on that one i like that better like i gotta work on this myself i i gotta make it
00:30:07.640
right if you if you if you made the mess clean up the mess you know don't don't say i'm sorry
00:30:12.260
well i did i did pray after i spilled the milk yeah so no but i i think that what we're seeing here
00:30:20.240
and the reason i mentioned that is trump is very open about things that that that lead to a degree of
00:30:26.580
vulnerability just not admitting mistakes and in our religion episode we'll explain why
00:30:30.760
he will admit mistakes to himself but he doesn't like to admit them in a public stage because there
00:30:36.100
is a religious reason for this for trump but yeah the if you if you want to get another one from him
00:30:41.140
here trump is imitating me instead of he's imitating trump and then in response to a post about msnbc's
00:30:48.300
ratings implying trump toed down his all camp after nuisance parody he did this jab again all of this
00:30:54.560
is all caps tiny hands is out here copying me but without the stamina sad and certainly without the
00:31:00.900
looks total beta tiny hands so he calls him new scum and tiny hands no this was what what's his face
00:31:10.020
said about trump trump trump no trump's hands like crazy gavin newsom wrote this about trump i.e gavin
00:31:19.160
typed this to make fun of trump while making fun of trump gavin newsom is calling trump tiny hands
00:31:26.080
okay or targeting fox news he said fox edits the tapes news must cancel their weekend stinkers
00:31:35.020
immediately three exclamation marks cancel the fox news stinkers now exclamation mark and he put
00:31:40.760
that in quotes trying to i guess start fox news stinkers as like an insult phrase that he wants
00:31:45.940
people to use um thank you for your attention to this matter exclamation mark he he later says no
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personality no talent very low energy trump of course response i love this as well proper capitalization
00:32:03.380
easy to read gavin newsom is way down in the polls i will save california three exclamation marks
00:32:09.040
and then white house spokesman abigail jackson called it inauthentic and it's just getting weird
00:32:17.740
which it kind of is it's getting to a point where i'm like a little uncomfortable that he's still doing
00:32:21.860
this yeah it's a little weird and and i don't point out the type of person who newsom is like at his
00:32:29.660
core remember when he was imposing all of those covid restrictions and he still goes to fancy
00:32:36.240
dinners at places like the fenced laundry where he and all his rich friends were holding parties
00:32:40.340
which is a fancy restaurant so so he's allowed to host his parties he's allowed to do what he wants
00:32:48.320
you have to obey the rules well you know yeah he's one of the rich people i just like yeah he probably
00:32:55.840
grew up just thinking well of course there's me and then there's everyone else i'm naturally supposed
00:33:02.080
to rule them and there's the peons that support me um which is one of the really interesting things
00:33:08.180
about trump is he connects very well with average americans without acting like he thinks he's better
00:33:12.560
yeah he never and he never was one of them and he never pretended to be one of them but he very much
00:33:19.080
is able to get on everyone's level i mean as is kind of evidenced by the constant rejection he has
00:33:26.800
received from many of society's elite so yeah it was almost an endorsement if anything of how good
00:33:34.520
is this guy at managing things so during the pandemic california's employment development department
00:33:39.940
under nuisance administration distributed 11.4 billion dollars in fraudulent unemployment claims
00:33:46.240
including including income to inmates no unemployment claims to inmates and note here 19 billion is still
00:33:58.420
under investigation legitimate claims ended up with month-long delays the state ended up owing 23
00:34:06.960
billion in federal debt over this mismanagement in terms of like the rich guys get whatever they
00:34:12.420
want the poor brokies have to do whatever so newsom signed a 2723 law which i'm sure you guys have all
00:34:18.540
heard about uh raising fast food minimum wages to 20 an hour uh effective april 2024 we might do an
00:34:25.680
episode on the impact of that but it included an exception for bakeries producing bread on site
00:34:32.660
this specifically was a big deal for the panera bread franchises owned by donor greg flynn
00:34:39.720
oh 163 000 to newsom's campaign how convenient well newsom accepted donations from pg and e this
00:34:50.580
company in california that keeps blowing stuff up and like people's houses and neighborhoods and causing
00:34:55.580
wildfires convicted in wildfires like campfire killing 85 then supported legislation creating a 21
00:35:02.600
billion dollar wildlife fund that shifted liability to rate payers avoiding billions in fees for the
00:35:09.400
utility company gosh that is rough of course there's the homeless situation in california right now
00:35:18.300
well and there's just the fact that it's it's hostile to businesses bed bath and beyond is opening
00:35:22.480
over what 200 new locations in the united states it's like a home goods store and they're not
00:35:29.320
conspicuously not opening anything in california because it is so hostile to businesses and then
00:35:33.920
his response is to like chastise them and be like hey it's not worse here and it's like we can all see
00:35:40.780
the videotapes of people being like pulled out of their car and like mainstream a or sf or well and
00:35:47.120
the rampant shoplifting all these other issues for for businesses in california because they refuse to
00:35:52.860
elect i'm sorry not elect they refuse to arrest minorities you know like oh we could get in trouble
00:35:58.440
if we do that i mean if they're stealing it they must need it you know i i am very interested in
00:36:04.480
zero allah whatever his name is trying to do her hand mom donnie yeah a state-run grocery store in
00:36:11.540
dc in d i wouldn't know where is it manhattan you know such a bad idea by the way everyone knows it's
00:36:16.800
not going to work grocery stores make such a little margin they made like 6.5 percent margin like that's
00:36:22.300
the most you could save is 0.6 cents per dollar by doing it what he wants to do but of course it's
00:36:28.620
going to be less because either they need to actually do security or they're just going to
00:36:33.160
bleed money through a shrinkage i don't even want to think about it but in terms of the modern
00:36:39.380
information economy the reason you need to and and people like him are needing to troll is news media
00:36:46.520
doesn't matter anymore when we get news articles they're just sort of like icing on the cake for us
00:36:50.320
right now right what matters is social media social media is where the truth is determined
00:36:54.620
and where what people believe is determined and it's where what ai thinks is determined often
00:36:58.360
because news news media is often paywall so when you when you go out there and you say just like
00:37:05.060
normal facts and the news media is like oh this is really great let's let's talk about this nobody
00:37:10.020
nobody sees it but when you go out there and you anger people or you appeal to people emotionally
00:37:15.460
they'll share it and that's what trolling does right like they feel like they're getting one
00:37:19.280
over on their enemy i think that that's who's really sharing these or people making fun of him
00:37:23.580
for doing this because he's being cringe and that gets him in front of more people
00:37:32.180
well we'll see how the weathervane man does in the coming years i would be delighted if if he if he ran
00:37:42.440
i would honestly be delighted if he developed the balls to have some authenticity and leaned into his
00:37:50.940
villain aesthetic because that would be even more fun like i would love a formidable candidate and i
00:37:58.260
don't really see i mean aoc perhaps but i i don't like i don't see that really happening you know
00:38:06.040
we are moving in a direction of greater socialism so we're gonna see it regardless
00:38:09.700
i i think aoc is the top candidate right now yeah i'm i'm ready i i want i want something
00:38:16.480
interesting at least it should be interesting yeah um i mean i i don't i don't want to compete
00:38:22.780
against her i would much rather compete against newsom than aoc aoc is a much stronger candidate
00:38:28.320
yeah she has less dirt like she's just has had had less of a career and track record that shows
00:38:35.100
repeated serious damage done to the areas under you know are going to try to run another a woman
00:38:45.340
of color for a while because they actually believe that's why they lost oh no no i hope not they do
00:38:53.220
they're like oh america is just not ready for a woman of color yet oh no i remember them trying
00:39:00.420
to do that with hillary being like well they just didn't vote for her because she was a woman but
00:39:04.820
that's historically who they should be running is john stewart oh john stewart versus joe rogan
00:39:12.200
let's go let's go who do you vote for right yeah jd vance joe rogan vice president i love that can
00:39:21.080
we get that please can we please yeah okay i mean i i i've always said if i was running for president
00:39:27.240
and i could choose anyone for bp right now i'd be choosing matt standard trey parker
00:39:32.320
oh it would be to die for oh they would never want to though they've i think they have too much fun
00:39:40.660
laughing at the world and they don't want to be saddled like they know better than to be saddled
00:39:46.200
with the responsibility of running the united states you know they're like i'm not that dumb
00:39:54.060
i mean they would also look at the system and how broken it is and be like yeah but really
00:40:00.480
i think they'd be great but i also think they're too savvy for that you got to be a certain you have
00:40:07.160
to be a certain flavor of dumb to enter politics and we say this is people who are very interested
00:40:12.240
in being more politically involved but that's you know not a testament to our intelligence and
00:40:18.920
self-preservation so yeah there's that all right i'm gonna get toasty for his aba therapy let's hope
00:40:25.160
he doesn't i'm making rice but i'm also making flatbread so you could just rehate some rendang i
00:40:31.800
guess if i have it i think i have some mango curry would you like some of that mango curry works fine
00:40:37.340
for me put in a few peppers okay are you sure i think i meant it spicy oh well if it is spicy then
00:40:43.920
don't and i also was going to put in some almonds but i'll do that after it's cooked
00:40:48.400
oh you're sliced almonds yeah okay i'll make sure that i have some out i love you love you too that
00:40:54.480
simone thank you for not being gavin newson back at you but you still have amazing hair so thanks for
00:41:00.940
that are you saying he has amazing hair he does have good hair his hair is is like a thing in like
00:41:06.900
any parody of him it's like a helmet of curated you know but you have unintentionally good you
00:41:14.600
think you think i beat him on authenticity i don't come off like the old politicians
00:41:17.960
yeah you're you're so authentic it hurts and i love it all right love you simone
00:41:24.180
shoot the barrels shoot the barrels yeah you got it