Based Camp - The Left Discovers Trolling： Trolling No Longer Cool (Gavin Newsom's Glow Up)

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today we are going to be talking about

00:00:04.300 gavin newsom and he figured out trolling and the left didn't exactly figure it out

00:00:13.160 you know he's sort of the human personification of the left can't meme but he has started trolling

00:00:19.480 and the left is loving it this is like in jurassic park when the raptors figured out how to use door

00:00:24.480 handles yeah except not really but he's getting traction i just think it's it's too soon he's

00:00:31.840 also it's a wider theme of this episode what i want to ask is because some people have been saying

00:00:37.140 this they go you do not appear to be able to have a voice within modern american politics without

00:00:42.520 trolling that trolling is a necessary part of playing the current political game and i would

00:00:48.220 argue yes yes it is and this isn't necessarily a bad thing as a lot of people say i mean we

00:00:55.240 have grown our political platform through trolling and i love this left is attempting to troll now

00:01:00.880 because it comes off so bad sorry i remembered that we have a bunch of non-american viewers

00:01:08.040 gavin newsom right now is the democrats top contender to be running against jd vance in the

00:01:13.120 next presidential election cycle so this this ends up coming so bad because people are sharing these

00:01:18.860 photos of gavin newsom against oh you showed me one yeah and gavin newsom looks like a bully

00:01:29.040 like if you look at these not like a bully but like your standard rich bully kid like if

00:01:34.740 physiognomy has anything he looks like a bully and he looks american psycho yeah he looks like an

00:01:42.680 he and he acts like it like even today so if you gavin newsom acts like patrick bateman from

00:01:50.480 american psycho like his whole thing feels so constructed he saw trump doing well by trolling

00:01:55.720 people and so then he goes and tries to troll people if you look at his political rear up this

00:01:59.680 he's just been like a chameleon copying and copying and copying whatever he sees somebody else doing

00:02:04.620 there is an idea of a patrick bateman some kind of abstraction but there is no real me

00:02:11.860 only an entity something illusory and though i can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand

00:02:19.460 and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable

00:02:24.840 i simply am not there i mean i think patrick bateman is a much better name for him than newscom which

00:02:33.320 is trump's but trump by the way got that i'll play a video of him admitting this but he said that

00:02:38.200 some kids called him this in seventh grade and it hurt his feelings i have my kids friends calling

00:02:43.300 my kids new scum that i get because i was called that in seventh grade

00:02:47.660 bought it oh god i remember having his feelings hurt for something so effing stupid from the seventh

00:02:56.700 grade oh good heavens the progressives like trump can sniff out weakness like a hound dog or something

00:03:04.860 and i'm like yeah i guess here's another fun early picture of the two where gavin newsom uh after high

00:03:11.280 school got money from the gettys to buy a vineyard in napa and uh jd vance went to join the military

00:03:16.760 because you know of course poor family but this guy's going up against jd vance and jd vance you look

00:03:24.020 at him for the agami and i go this guy looks like a guy who played magic the gathering and believe it

00:03:29.040 or not he was actually a very big fan and still a big fan of magic the gathering so that's what he

00:03:34.400 looks like and i think that we saw this and we pointed this out in the last election cycle was the

00:03:39.180 left because it is now the culture of the urban monoculture the dominant culture in society and now

00:03:43.880 is attempting to impose those urban monocultural values has become the party of the bully and they use

00:03:50.360 this in their speech i mean the right because we are not the dominant culture we intrinsically are

00:03:55.320 weird that's how weirdness is defined it's by distance from what is seen as culturally normal

00:03:59.180 absolutely and so you're weird if you're an orthodox jew you're weird if you're an evangelical

00:04:03.140 christian you're weird if you're jd vance and a fat kid who plays magic the gathering and does

00:04:08.540 nerdy socially awkward things like in one of the pictures they have him like standing in a bathroom

00:04:14.600 was like two women you know like they're they're they're nerdy kids goofing off and that you're

00:04:20.420 like oh how could you do that like what what do you have no fun like what were you were you the

00:04:26.040 gavin newsom of your high school right like and i want to point point out here so one

00:04:32.060 when the progressives did this last time the the scene from revenge of the nerds because that's

00:04:37.960 exactly what they are they've been just bullies democrats and the harris campaign now deploying

00:04:43.440 a new adjective to blast the republican ticket some of what he and his running mate are saying

00:04:49.080 well it's just plain weird get those nerds i mean on the other side they're just weird

00:04:55.200 it's not just a a a weird style that he brings

00:05:01.760 where are they i think they're talking about us no way

00:05:08.680 and i think that everybody and this is great i mean i hope gavin newsom wins and does this in the

00:05:17.420 next thing he's gonna look like a bully he already you hope he wins the primary you mean for oh yeah

00:05:22.560 because he's gonna try to use trump like tactics against the sweet and practical jd vance who who

00:05:30.660 doesn't do this in the same way he only yeah when you look at pictures of them too the the other

00:05:35.260 differentiator is clearly one's coming from money and clearly one's not oh one is representative of

00:05:42.200 most americans and one is not and it's super easy to tell this is what really gets me as well is is is

00:05:49.600 gavin newsom has gone with his whole i'm wasn't a rich kid thing so i'll get to what he says in

00:05:54.920 regards what how if you know jd vance jd vance grew up in actual poverty there's like the scene where

00:06:00.940 his grandma was going to set their grandpa on fire for coming home late and somebody had to hide the

00:06:05.760 matches or something um meemaw meemaw meemaw the hardcore person you know he grew up in actual

00:06:12.080 you know appellation region poverty and he was raised by his meemaw because his mother was

00:06:18.040 dealing with really intense drug addiction like again this is not the story and then in the

00:06:24.920 meantime when this guy was fat and being picked on and playing nerdy games gavin newsom this is what

00:06:31.400 he has to say about his childhood okay spoken out about feeling like an outsider at times due to his

00:06:36.580 learning disability he has dyslexia oh his i have dyslexia not an issue it's not a real learning

00:06:43.480 disability it's a learning inconvenience and the instability from the divorce but he also

00:06:49.720 benefited from a network of wealthy san francisco families so oh let's let's let's talk about this

00:06:56.640 this poor struggling divorced family by the way my my parents got divorced when i was a kid it's

00:07:02.020 it's non-issue yes newsom's family had deep ties to the getty oil fortune but it wasn't directly

00:07:08.580 personal wealth for young gavin um more like access to elite circles and opportunities through his

00:07:13.280 father's role william newsom was a close friend and financial advisor to the billionaire gordon getty

00:07:17.780 son of oil tycoon jay paul getty managing the getty family trust which was worth billions of dollars

00:07:23.880 his dad managed a billions of dollar trust just because he was friends with a guy wow gavin attended

00:07:29.140 high school was one of the getty's sons billy and the families were intertwined gordon even helped fund

00:07:34.260 some of newsom's early business ventures later in life like his clump jack wine shop in 1992

00:07:39.840 however newsom pushed back on portrayals of his childhood as privilege emphasizing that his

00:07:45.820 mother struggled financially post-divorce yeah but what about your father what no no no no no sorry

00:07:51.460 what what about your father buddy who was running the multi-billion dollar hedge fund

00:07:56.600 in the 80s that's a lot more money back then you were you never financially struggled and this

00:08:04.040 sort of stolen valor when you're contrasting it with somebody like jd vance and you're contrasting

00:08:10.320 it with this guy who looks like a bully and will show that he still acts like a bully like he still

00:08:14.520 has this inclination he bullied trump before trump ever did anything to bully him or his side which we'll

00:08:20.420 get into as well his net worth today is 20 to 25 million dollars which almost entirely comes from

00:08:26.520 businesses that the getty family funded for him ah must be nice yeah must be nice but no no i i think

00:08:34.300 that this is something that we need to come back to regularly when we're framing this oh and i'll note

00:08:42.380 here that people started calling him because he's he's added this just trolling and we'll go over some

00:08:46.680 of his trolling this idea that he's christopher columbus because he he redraws maps so much this has to do

00:08:53.580 oh you mean like california redistricting kind of math gerrymander california even though california's

00:08:59.100 already pretty gerrymandered by the way if you look at gerrymandering gerry if you if you created

00:09:02.820 a federal law against gerrymandering the democrats would fight against it like crazy because democrat

00:09:06.600 gerrymandering on average helps democrats and not republicans so i decided to check to see if this

00:09:14.460 was still true and it looks like these days it's about 50 50 in terms of who benefits from

00:09:20.100 gerrymandering maybe leaning republican but that's probably because most newspaper publications that

00:09:26.400 report on this are democrat leaning i mean yes republicans are attempting to gerrymander texas but

00:09:31.620 it wouldn't even even out the existing gerrymandering but he's like threatening gerrymandering in

00:09:37.100 california more gerrymandering against texas and he's doing this little christopher columbus thing which

00:09:41.320 is funny because he advocated for the taking down not not democrats he himself advocated for the taking

00:09:46.520 down of christopher columbus statues in in 2029 so uh okay like just forgetting any any form of

00:09:54.780 continuity here you know he's a face dealer just whatever he sees doing well he's gonna he's gonna

00:09:59.000 copy and imitate before i go further in this one i found funny here are the two's family photos next to

00:10:06.760 each other one of these guys is considered a white nationalist and the other one isn't would you

00:10:13.040 ever guess which one it is from these family photos before i get into some of the failures and

00:10:18.660 controversies associated with him you grew up with this guy right like yeah the really funny thing is

00:10:24.920 i i was not politically involved as a kid and yet i have this deep entrenched understanding of gavin

00:10:31.300 newsom on as a like an extremely savvy slash slimy or at least like very tactical political player

00:10:40.080 who was always thinking about himself and how to look the right way and there were these political

00:10:48.300 cartoons that ran in the san francisco chronicle that always depicted him a certain way and drew him

00:10:54.200 this really certain way that was just he was just always depicted as being so slick and it's crazy to

00:11:00.280 see just that throughout my lifetime nothing has changed i mean the haunted by this slick face stealing

00:11:07.460 patrick bayman yes yeah like the it was the the comic was called bad reporter i'll try to find some

00:11:15.100 images of it i can share with you and it the long game is i respect the long game i mean he's been

00:11:22.200 going for it kind of how like pete buddha judge had the same like sort of career long game approach

00:11:28.800 of you know first i'm going to serve in the military and then i'm going to do this and then i'm going to

00:11:32.580 do that gavin newsom has been doing it but just within the realm of politics for such a long time

00:11:37.460 i feel though like he's he's making some kind of breakthrough right now leveraging the fact that

00:11:46.780 trump won using this podcast he launched he's getting traction in a way he's never gotten traction

00:11:52.880 before outside the realm of just san francisco and then just california yeah no i i agree that this

00:12:00.740 is working for him in a way and i'll note here when i'm talking about him making fun of trump

00:12:04.720 before trump ever did him you go back to trump's first run when all the democrats acted like he was

00:12:12.880 a joke and you have gavin newsom tweeting things like donald trump this week let's get back to the

00:12:18.620 issues like just joking proceeds to take time giving his his rating of an actor on a comedy show

00:12:24.420 so he's sort of mocking trump as a distraction back here when they were back in 2016 egged on if

00:12:30.000 donald trump can't stand up to billy bush how can he ever handle the pressure that the oval office

00:12:34.500 and i and i and then in a picture of him next to donald trump jr he says tough choice one now leads

00:12:41.260 the world's fourth largest economy the other sells phones you know trying to just from the very beginning

00:12:47.000 he can't be like oh i i'm only just now taking the low road he took the low road from the beginning

00:12:51.280 and i'll note here and we contrast gavin newsom with other times when people have decided to make fun

00:12:57.280 trump trump trump is motivated by this stuff this is what keeps him going right you're you're giving

00:13:04.600 him fuel you are not causing him to misstep

00:13:07.080 donald trump is here since recently in an episode of celebrity apprentice the men's cooking team did not

00:13:21.420 impress the judges and there was a lot of blame to go around but you mr trump recognize that the real

00:13:26.920 problem was a lack of leadership and so you fired gary music

00:13:31.480 say what you will about not funny bigly not funny oh i'll get your birth certificate obama

00:13:44.060 we'll see who's laughing then i'm not a loser

00:13:49.000 it's okay trump they probably already forgot about the jokes let's just see what's on the

00:13:55.580 telecom donald trump humiliated by the leader of the free world tonight at the white house

00:14:00.500 correspondent dinner yes wolf it was very clear who was the president of the united states and who

00:14:05.560 was the buffoon yeah welcome back to our 24 7 coverage of the utter humiliation of donald trump

00:14:16.120 say what you will about uh mr trump he certainly would bring some change to the white house

00:14:21.520 let's see what we've got up there

00:14:23.260 we will make america great again but

00:14:40.200 to get him this is a guy who's doing all this like he's like oh i run the fourth largest economy

00:14:47.700 california is bleeding people right now just tons and tons of people are leaving the state

00:14:54.820 i think i was looking at over a million people since he took office have left the state

00:14:58.520 which is insane people do not want to be in the area that you're running

00:15:02.520 they're fleeing yeah and he also lit the state on fire which was pretty crazy that somebody did that

00:15:08.300 i mean aside from the literal fires or just like you're i'm joking the literal fires so

00:15:13.740 in 2021 he claimed 35 priority projects from a 2019 executive order treating 90 000 acres of land

00:15:21.760 the problem is only 11 000 or 13 000 were actually treated so he lied by 690 percent

00:15:28.700 and he did this through cutting 150 million dollars from cal fire's mitigation budget that year

00:15:36.360 despite them having a surplus and so you can be like oh well he was doing that to save taxpayer money

00:15:41.240 and it's like oh no let's see where he was sending that money okay instead

00:15:45.000 yeah the task force to study reparations for black californians including historical research and

00:15:52.260 recommendations for compensation that they spent 12 million dollars on research for reparations

00:16:00.580 that obviously research oh gosh he gave 1.48 million dollars to his weiss non-profit

00:16:08.780 selling gender equity curriculums to schools massive spending on homeless programs with 24 to 37

00:16:16.440 billion dollars on his homeless programs but oh what did those programs spend the money on local

00:16:22.680 coc boards which coordinate federal and state homeless funds e.g 683 million dollars had dedicated

00:16:28.820 racial equity committees to analyze disparities and prioritize services for underrepresented groups

00:16:34.300 like black californians who made up sacramento coc for instance removed its committed its committee and

00:16:41.420 scrubbed terms like racial equity i don't understand this with federal oh they had to remove all that

00:16:46.780 due to the anti-dei rules no specifics are tied to it but it's estimated that 24 to 37 billion in state

00:16:52.680 homeless funding have gone to this sort of stuff yeah the total net that left is a million and 42

00:16:58.640 although some sources show around 800 000 gosh but i can hear pull up i thought that this was was

00:17:08.880 interesting because the progressives are sort of freaking out about this and i thought that this

00:17:12.760 meme was good by paul f thomas and he goes quote i'm sick of these purity tests because a lot of

00:17:17.680 progressives are like oh he's not progressive enough no it's perfect newsom may not care about homeless

00:17:23.080 people or trans people but he's the only one hiring social media posters to ask chat gpt to talk like

00:17:29.380 trump this is the kind of social media posting we need right now or don't you care about democracy

00:17:34.700 but that is like basically what he's doing right his social media interns to talk like and that's the

00:17:40.800 thing about this is with newsom it comes off as so inauthentic because we all know that when trump

00:17:47.240 account tweet something it's not a social media manager it is trump it's trump kofefe yes you know

00:17:55.900 that gavin newsom isn't tweeting any of this it's some social media intern who's been given direction

00:18:01.820 that that our analytics show that this works this is no different than like the coca-cola account when

00:18:07.360 it gets on like a streak or something like that and then you accidentally like coca-cola

00:18:11.220 i'd also note he is a so let's go into some of the individuals trolling he's done

00:18:17.900 and why you sort of need to troll in this information economy

00:18:21.380 so newsom's press office tweeted in all caps um and i will say funny apparently trump has stopped

00:18:30.080 tweeting in all caps as much since newsom started doing it oh no which is i i don't care one way or

00:18:37.800 the other quote all caps by the way not even just sorry not even jd quote just dance in quote vance

00:18:46.180 wait is this his insult to jd vance seriously just dance vance that sounds like a an affectionate

00:18:55.100 nickname yeah also where's the relevance why don't you ask ai where the relevance is surely he thinks

00:19:02.680 something about that is funny just dance fans can save trump from the disastrous maps war he has

00:19:09.100 started what you guys as i pointed out the democrats do more gerrymandering than republicans but okay not

00:19:16.640 even his eyeliner looks as pretty as california map lines oh wow pressing for gender norms there buddy

00:19:23.820 i mean i get it so he's making fun of jd vance for i guess reportedly wearing eyeliner that doesn't that

00:19:29.920 make him look heteronormative what's even worse is that the nickname is not tied to anything from

00:19:35.340 vance's personal history but rather is a satirical play on his initials in the popular video game

00:19:41.660 series just dance it has nothing to do with jd vance's actions or history and then trump trump has has the

00:19:50.460 going back to the game yeah to find a seventh grade bully name and i know i love it it's like

00:19:59.840 he he comes at them with like a wiffle bat you know like it's smacking jd vance and trump just

00:20:05.620 walks by with like a shiv and like stabs the guy and then yeah remember that traumatic experience in

00:20:12.320 the seventh grade well i got something special for you yeah he's like remember that experience you said

00:20:17.440 still traumatizes you to this day yeah remember what used to call you remember what used to cry

00:20:22.880 about at three in the morning yeah that is i just sorry i just love that that difference in approach

00:20:29.780 he doesn't get it he doesn't get it he's like coming out here like it goes on he will fail as he

00:20:35.860 always does sad exclamation mark and i the peacetime governor our amer our nation's favorite will save

00:20:43.320 america once again many are calling me gavin christopher columbus newsome because of the maps

00:20:50.100 thank you for your attention to this matter gcn so he he made up this nickname for himself then

00:20:57.520 wrote because of the maps exclamation mark trying to write in a trump style i love the adding sad with

00:21:03.100 an exclamation mark to make it more trump style he's literally just he's appropriating not only

00:21:09.620 christopher columbus after apparently he advocated for the removal of christopher columbus statues but

00:21:15.880 is appropriating trump's language that is so sad it's showing trump invented something that appears

00:21:22.840 to work for me too so i guess i'll use it i mean obviously he's claiming this is all satirical but

00:21:27.060 nothing about it is actually satirical it's all not no when you copy something like maybe if it were

00:21:33.180 only all caps stuff i'm trying to think of like a way that he could have done this that wasn't

00:21:40.000 extra cringy in a not good way so a fun part of this by the way is this political argument

00:21:46.200 which bridget what's her name british phantasy where i also got the patrick bateman idea from i

00:21:51.240 she's got a great channel very similar to ours who we met at hereticon that bridget met british phantasy

00:21:56.260 i guess we did she's the one who introduced our talk yeah she was the emcee oh youtube channel

00:22:05.140 where she comments i remember thinking she was so nice at hereticon but i didn't watch her channel

00:22:09.660 yet and now she's just like oh yeah i'm like a low-key influencer but like not that big she was huge

00:22:15.060 and she's still huge so yeah you know she's not twice as big as us yeah she's no we should reach

00:22:21.700 right now she's a very delightful woman i in person by the way this is me saying like i met her i didn't

00:22:27.380 know she was famous at the time when i met her now that i'm putting the two people together i'm like oh

00:22:31.780 that was the same person was very nice very delightful very warm not one of those like oh you meet you

00:22:39.640 not even remotely pretentious just super cool yeah yeah but it also is face blind for for reference

00:22:47.660 this is why he can meet someone at a conference and have absolutely no idea it's an influencer whose

00:22:52.340 content he's been consuming so she i didn't watch her channel yet back then on politico she said that

00:22:58.540 this article de-sucked gavin newsom and it was really gross but i'll just do a quote from the article

00:23:03.880 here so you can get a idea of how much because all of the gems are they love that he's doing this

00:23:08.700 because they think that the republicans are freaking out that he's doing this instead of

00:23:12.760 just looking at them as like a like yeah it's really sad but they think that they're scoring wins

00:23:18.460 newsom has entered the digital dojo and he's performing the sort of mimetic jujitsu that's

00:23:25.440 scaring republican white belts unused to actual competition smith tells politico for too long

00:23:31.840 democrats have been poisted up in the parking lot too afraid of getting it wrong to throw a jab

00:23:38.000 this should energize folks to get into the octagon and and then they send this to trump

00:23:44.120 to ask for comment and he sends back a meme of course the the what the first all meme no not even

00:23:50.520 context that was just the meme of the the one guy being like something something something and then

00:23:55.980 the madman like i don't even know who you are response many people have pointed out that this may

00:24:00.320 have been a bad meme to use in this instance because in the original context of the show he was trying

00:24:05.440 to hide that he did knew who he was and he was hiding his insecurity but i really don't think

00:24:09.900 i i i do not think there is any mainstream republican who wouldn't love gavin newsom to be our competitor

00:24:16.820 in the next election cycle he would be so easy for jd to beat well especially when you look at his track

00:24:22.720 record with california and where california is now he has to still answer for that plus the fact that his

00:24:29.360 background is so not relatable to the average person that he came from so much privilege he's not a man

00:24:35.700 of the people i mean yes george bush for example came from an extremely privileged you can even argue

00:24:42.040 aristocratic family but he was folksy and down home and fun and gavin newsom is is he tries to be that but

00:24:52.580 you you know it's not genuine and authenticity is like the top thing that especially younger voters

00:24:58.480 care about so yeah yeah no i was talking to a political reporter recently and the democrats

00:25:05.520 struggle so much with authenticity and i think gavin newsom uniquely struggles and we were talking about

00:25:10.140 who could run instead of jd vance on the right and i threw out there i was like well she said rfk and i

00:25:16.260 like yeah rfk would be great the bear story wonderful uh you you run into it you see roadkill

00:25:22.400 bear and you decide you're gonna eat it and then you realize that you can't get it to your fridge in

00:25:25.980 time so you leave it in a bike lane to create a story about a bear being struck by a bike in a

00:25:31.840 controversial bike lane that had been put up and that goes by this effing hilarious i would never

00:25:37.260 not vote for somebody who's that funny and that down home that they see roadkill and their first thought

00:25:42.180 is well yeah and get away with it for so many years like never reveal it keep your mouth shut

00:25:47.460 until you know someone's gonna leak it and then energy right there so i love that or joe rogan

00:25:52.140 would be great i said joe rogan would be great totally yeah but but then she was like well what

00:25:56.600 about rubio and i was like rubio would be a great democratic candidate yeah yeah well no he's that old

00:26:04.220 type of candidate that like yeah tries to be a politician who doesn't you know has a clean record and

00:26:10.940 isn't a character really yeah it's nothing there to play with you have to be character now i mean

00:26:19.300 the thing though is that gavin newsom if he were to lean into his villain energy i think could be

00:26:26.480 you know more interesting like dark biden if that became a concept like if if that was tacked onto

00:26:34.180 someone with a little more youth and agency it would be a lot of fun or dr brandon and if if gavin newsom

00:26:42.280 instead was like yeah i am the american psycho i am the you know the the mercenary sociopath is going

00:26:50.600 to do what it takes to make our country win yeah that could be interesting and i mean and he that is

00:26:57.100 him that's also authentic well i don't not america win for him but making me win but still i feel like

00:27:02.980 people could get behind that yeah what he's doing now isn't gonna sell lacks the authenticity i mean

00:27:10.040 he's got hardcore american psycho energy like yeah so own it you know like make that your whole look

00:27:16.520 here are some more tweets you can get an idea of of what it looks like when he tries to do this and

00:27:22.840 i really is quite cringy compared to what trump does right wow all caps this is all all caps the maps

00:27:28.900 the best maps ever made will soon pass in the greatest legislature everywhere in the world not

00:27:34.380 just america people are already screaming mama mama and i say no i am your daddy three exclamation marks

00:27:41.860 thank you usa three exclamation marks that's gross no no no no no no what he should do is with his

00:27:52.080 podcast it should be a video podcast if it's not he should have like sponsorship with those all those

00:27:58.040 face mask companies and just show his like morning routine but like all shot american psycho style

00:28:03.620 that would be great just like really i don't know just over the top self-owning trump self-owns all the

00:28:13.120 time james dance you know retweets south park episode stuff you know they don't have a laugh

00:28:20.860 yeah when i point out that he isn't afraid of you know revealing his own sort of like we recorded an

00:28:28.640 episode who knows where it goes live on trump's religious beliefs and in that thing where everybody

00:28:34.120 always is like you know trump said you know he did he's never asked god for forgiveness because he

00:28:40.400 doesn't have you know anything to ask forgiveness for it's actually a bit more nuanced to that when

00:28:44.720 you see his full take he said that he thought it was more important that he tried to solve his

00:28:50.960 mistakes himself um rather than externalize it is essentially the way he framed it yeah and he said

00:28:56.800 after that he goes and i know that this isn't the answer i'm supposed to get he's like i i know that i

00:29:02.300 can get in trouble for saying this and i should just be saying but that's being honest and isn't that

00:29:06.420 great yeah or recently when he's like talking about getting into heaven right you know he's like

00:29:12.460 well if i could say 7 000 people a day i think i get into heaven because you know people out there

00:29:16.540 are saying i'm not high on that list and he's out there saying this about himself yeah yeah i do just

00:29:23.820 love the concept of making it right i mean asking god for forgiveness is messed up for me twofold

00:29:30.920 one it makes you think you can be absolved of your flaws without fixing the problem but two

00:29:38.200 who has the gumption to believe that god is personally offended by you messing up god who made you

00:29:47.580 that's like no he's not that immature man like he's got bigger things to worry about than

00:29:53.820 the fact that you slept with someone outside of the bonds of marriage or something right so

00:29:59.660 yeah i'm with trump on that one i like that better like i gotta work on this myself i i gotta make it

00:30:07.640 right if you if you if you made the mess clean up the mess you know don't don't say i'm sorry

00:30:12.260 well i did i did pray after i spilled the milk yeah so no but i i think that what we're seeing here

00:30:20.240 and the reason i mentioned that is trump is very open about things that that that lead to a degree of

00:30:26.580 vulnerability just not admitting mistakes and in our religion episode we'll explain why

00:30:30.760 he will admit mistakes to himself but he doesn't like to admit them in a public stage because there

00:30:36.100 is a religious reason for this for trump but yeah the if you if you want to get another one from him

00:30:41.140 here trump is imitating me instead of he's imitating trump and then in response to a post about msnbc's

00:30:48.300 ratings implying trump toed down his all camp after nuisance parody he did this jab again all of this

00:30:54.560 is all caps tiny hands is out here copying me but without the stamina sad and certainly without the

00:31:00.900 looks total beta tiny hands so he calls him new scum and tiny hands no this was what what's his face

00:31:10.020 said about trump trump trump no trump's hands like crazy gavin newsom wrote this about trump i.e gavin

00:31:19.160 typed this to make fun of trump while making fun of trump gavin newsom is calling trump tiny hands

00:31:26.080 okay or targeting fox news he said fox edits the tapes news must cancel their weekend stinkers

00:31:35.020 immediately three exclamation marks cancel the fox news stinkers now exclamation mark and he put

00:31:40.760 that in quotes trying to i guess start fox news stinkers as like an insult phrase that he wants

00:31:45.940 people to use um thank you for your attention to this matter exclamation mark he he later says no

00:31:56.060 personality no talent very low energy trump of course response i love this as well proper capitalization

00:32:03.380 easy to read gavin newsom is way down in the polls i will save california three exclamation marks

00:32:09.040 and then white house spokesman abigail jackson called it inauthentic and it's just getting weird

00:32:17.740 which it kind of is it's getting to a point where i'm like a little uncomfortable that he's still doing

00:32:21.860 this yeah it's a little weird and and i don't point out the type of person who newsom is like at his

00:32:29.660 core remember when he was imposing all of those covid restrictions and he still goes to fancy

00:32:36.240 dinners at places like the fenced laundry where he and all his rich friends were holding parties

00:32:40.340 which is a fancy restaurant so so he's allowed to host his parties he's allowed to do what he wants

00:32:48.320 you have to obey the rules well you know yeah he's one of the rich people i just like yeah he probably

00:32:55.840 grew up just thinking well of course there's me and then there's everyone else i'm naturally supposed

00:33:02.080 to rule them and there's the peons that support me um which is one of the really interesting things

00:33:08.180 about trump is he connects very well with average americans without acting like he thinks he's better

00:33:12.560 yeah he never and he never was one of them and he never pretended to be one of them but he very much

00:33:19.080 is able to get on everyone's level i mean as is kind of evidenced by the constant rejection he has

00:33:26.800 received from many of society's elite so yeah it was almost an endorsement if anything of how good

00:33:34.520 is this guy at managing things so during the pandemic california's employment development department

00:33:39.940 under nuisance administration distributed 11.4 billion dollars in fraudulent unemployment claims

00:33:46.240 including including income to inmates no unemployment claims to inmates and note here 19 billion is still

00:33:58.420 under investigation legitimate claims ended up with month-long delays the state ended up owing 23

00:34:06.960 billion in federal debt over this mismanagement in terms of like the rich guys get whatever they

00:34:12.420 want the poor brokies have to do whatever so newsom signed a 2723 law which i'm sure you guys have all

00:34:18.540 heard about uh raising fast food minimum wages to 20 an hour uh effective april 2024 we might do an

00:34:25.680 episode on the impact of that but it included an exception for bakeries producing bread on site

00:34:32.660 this specifically was a big deal for the panera bread franchises owned by donor greg flynn

00:34:39.720 oh 163 000 to newsom's campaign how convenient well newsom accepted donations from pg and e this

00:34:50.580 company in california that keeps blowing stuff up and like people's houses and neighborhoods and causing

00:34:55.580 wildfires convicted in wildfires like campfire killing 85 then supported legislation creating a 21

00:35:02.600 billion dollar wildlife fund that shifted liability to rate payers avoiding billions in fees for the

00:35:09.400 utility company gosh that is rough of course there's the homeless situation in california right now

00:35:18.300 well and there's just the fact that it's it's hostile to businesses bed bath and beyond is opening

00:35:22.480 over what 200 new locations in the united states it's like a home goods store and they're not

00:35:29.320 conspicuously not opening anything in california because it is so hostile to businesses and then

00:35:33.920 his response is to like chastise them and be like hey it's not worse here and it's like we can all see

00:35:40.780 the videotapes of people being like pulled out of their car and like mainstream a or sf or well and

00:35:47.120 the rampant shoplifting all these other issues for for businesses in california because they refuse to

00:35:52.860 elect i'm sorry not elect they refuse to arrest minorities you know like oh we could get in trouble

00:35:58.440 if we do that i mean if they're stealing it they must need it you know i i am very interested in

00:36:04.480 zero allah whatever his name is trying to do her hand mom donnie yeah a state-run grocery store in

00:36:11.540 dc in d i wouldn't know where is it manhattan you know such a bad idea by the way everyone knows it's

00:36:16.800 not going to work grocery stores make such a little margin they made like 6.5 percent margin like that's

00:36:22.300 the most you could save is 0.6 cents per dollar by doing it what he wants to do but of course it's

00:36:28.620 going to be less because either they need to actually do security or they're just going to

00:36:33.160 bleed money through a shrinkage i don't even want to think about it but in terms of the modern

00:36:39.380 information economy the reason you need to and and people like him are needing to troll is news media

00:36:46.520 doesn't matter anymore when we get news articles they're just sort of like icing on the cake for us

00:36:50.320 right now right what matters is social media social media is where the truth is determined

00:36:54.620 and where what people believe is determined and it's where what ai thinks is determined often

00:36:58.360 because news news media is often paywall so when you when you go out there and you say just like

00:37:05.060 normal facts and the news media is like oh this is really great let's let's talk about this nobody

00:37:10.020 nobody sees it but when you go out there and you anger people or you appeal to people emotionally

00:37:15.460 they'll share it and that's what trolling does right like they feel like they're getting one

00:37:19.280 over on their enemy i think that that's who's really sharing these or people making fun of him

00:37:23.580 for doing this because he's being cringe and that gets him in front of more people

00:37:26.680 that's why you have to do it you have to do it

00:37:32.180 well we'll see how the weathervane man does in the coming years i would be delighted if if he if he ran

00:37:42.440 i would honestly be delighted if he developed the balls to have some authenticity and leaned into his

00:37:50.940 villain aesthetic because that would be even more fun like i would love a formidable candidate and i

00:37:58.260 don't really see i mean aoc perhaps but i i don't like i don't see that really happening you know

00:38:06.040 we are moving in a direction of greater socialism so we're gonna see it regardless

00:38:09.700 i i think aoc is the top candidate right now yeah i'm i'm ready i i want i want something

00:38:16.480 interesting at least it should be interesting yeah um i mean i i don't i don't want to compete

00:38:22.780 against her i would much rather compete against newsom than aoc aoc is a much stronger candidate

00:38:28.320 yeah she has less dirt like she's just has had had less of a career and track record that shows

00:38:35.100 repeated serious damage done to the areas under you know are going to try to run another a woman

00:38:45.340 of color for a while because they actually believe that's why they lost oh no no i hope not they do

00:38:53.220 they're like oh america is just not ready for a woman of color yet oh no i remember them trying

00:39:00.420 to do that with hillary being like well they just didn't vote for her because she was a woman but

00:39:04.820 that's historically who they should be running is john stewart oh john stewart versus joe rogan

00:39:12.200 let's go let's go who do you vote for right yeah jd vance joe rogan vice president i love that can

00:39:21.080 we get that please can we please yeah okay i mean i i i've always said if i was running for president

00:39:27.240 and i could choose anyone for bp right now i'd be choosing matt standard trey parker

00:39:32.320 oh it would be to die for oh they would never want to though they've i think they have too much fun

00:39:40.660 laughing at the world and they don't want to be saddled like they know better than to be saddled

00:39:46.200 with the responsibility of running the united states you know they're like i'm not that dumb

00:39:50.300 so i'd be like but you can fix things yeah

00:39:54.060 i mean they would also look at the system and how broken it is and be like yeah but really

00:40:00.480 i think they'd be great but i also think they're too savvy for that you got to be a certain you have

00:40:07.160 to be a certain flavor of dumb to enter politics and we say this is people who are very interested

00:40:12.240 in being more politically involved but that's you know not a testament to our intelligence and

00:40:18.920 self-preservation so yeah there's that all right i'm gonna get toasty for his aba therapy let's hope

00:40:25.160 he doesn't i'm making rice but i'm also making flatbread so you could just rehate some rendang i

00:40:31.800 guess if i have it i think i have some mango curry would you like some of that mango curry works fine

00:40:37.340 for me put in a few peppers okay are you sure i think i meant it spicy oh well if it is spicy then

00:40:43.920 don't and i also was going to put in some almonds but i'll do that after it's cooked

00:40:48.400 oh you're sliced almonds yeah okay i'll make sure that i have some out i love you love you too that

00:40:54.480 simone thank you for not being gavin newson back at you but you still have amazing hair so thanks for

00:41:00.940 that are you saying he has amazing hair he does have good hair his hair is is like a thing in like

00:41:06.900 any parody of him it's like a helmet of curated you know but you have unintentionally good you

00:41:14.600 think you think i beat him on authenticity i don't come off like the old politicians

00:41:17.960 yeah you're you're so authentic it hurts and i love it all right love you simone

00:41:24.180 shoot the barrels shoot the barrels yeah you got it

00:41:36.240 get away

00:41:46.240 get away you stupid old

00:41:48.240 get away you stupid old

00:41:58.240 take that

Based Camp - August 26, 2025

The Left Discovers Trolling： Trolling No Longer Cool (Gavin Newsom's Glow Up)

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