Based Camp - September 17, 2025
The Violent Far-Left Networks Vance Wants Doxxed (The White House Response to Charlie Kirk)
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1 hour and 6 minutes
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180.6233
Summary
In this episode, we cover the Charlie Kirk assassination and the controversial claim that it was done by a trans person who was in a relationship with a transgender person. We also discuss how the assassination could be linked to radical leftist terrorism.
Transcript
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hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today i woke up and i checked my whatsapp
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and what did i see but my grad school class worrying about a new york times piece that
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we're going to go over because the new york times are freaking out because jd vance has come out
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and a number of top chump aides have come out and are like we need to begin to crack down
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through law enforcement on far left terrorist organizations oh man they they kicked me out
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too soon they kicked you out yeah because they they found out that we were in the new york times
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and said some i don't know whatever thing but anyway they're very spicy they yell at me occasionally
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in this thread but the left is like actually quaking in their boots right now because what we are seeing
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is finally and i don't know why the administration didn't do this earlier they are using the charlie
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kirk assassination as a cover for saying we actually need to deal with left-wing terrorism
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and left-wing people are like oh no we defined what was thought crimes before they get to define
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it now this is no good and and when your enemy is afraid you know that's when you know you're in
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the right direction what's it thinking girl it's afraid it's afraid
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i knew you were gonna do that of course you were every damn time but i want to go over a few things
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with this i want to go over what they're saying because i think taking time to understand your
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enemy you know you can only you can only beat the bug if you can understand the bug dreams will the
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brain bug reveal federal scientists are working around the clock to probe its secrets once we
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understand the bug we will defeat it that's also why the bug slurped out humans brains yeah no they're
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they this is why they the the the bug men are doing a 20 what was it like a 50 million dollar
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study to try to figure out what young men think and everybody remembers this because it went viral
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and we never did a piece on it but i should probably see what what results they came to from all that
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money they spent on how to reach young men i agree with the all right so let me go through some of
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our positions and you stop me where you feel uncomfortable a higher minimum wage
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social safety net wait could you repeat that last one sure social safety net before that
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hmm oh the ball kicking machine i don't like the ball kicking machine not a fan yeah i don't like
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that at all oh the machine we want in your house to kick your balls all the time yes no that can't be
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it okay so what does our 20 million dollar study show the machine needs more boats
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that's about what the people came to but they they try it on us too right like it's important to
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understand what's going on but i also want to take time to explore what types of groups they're
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talking about here because the left pretends like there's no radical leftist attack groups out there
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right now even though you know we just had literally the the trans murder cult with the zizians that we
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covered in a recent episode we had the the mass shooting recently we had the at a school we had the
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charlie kirk death which if you watch our previous episode we point out that seems like half a dozen
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people in the utah trans community were aware that this was going to happen
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by the way another i told you so here so in the first video on the charlie kirk assassination i said
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i bet the assassin has ties to the trans community everyone is like when the guy was first caught they
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were like malcolm you see you got ahead on your skis on this one you were totally wrong and then it turns
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out you see our recent episode on this that you know half a dozen members of the trans community and
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no one else was aware of the day the assassination was going to take place and that the guy who did
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the assassination was dating a trans person and then in that video i made the second controversial claim
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that while i was right in my first claim due to all the people who were aware that this was going to
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happen beforehand i was going to take the position that i do not think the person's girlfriend
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slash boyfriend because they were dating before they started transitioning so that's not like an
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offensive thing to say that they didn't know about this and were not involved in this and then this
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claim got me a bunch of heat you know heat in that video because people are like oh malcolm
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you're being naive blah blah blah blah well since then the text that the person had was their so
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have been released and well obviously it's not conclusive this could have been faked these texts do not
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come off as to me they come off as pretty firm confirmation that the so did not know this was
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going to happen so to just go over them robinson drop what you're doing look under my keyboard
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and then the note that he had under his keyboard read i had the opportunity to take out charlie kirk
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and i'm going to take it and then the roommate responded what with a bunch of question marks you're
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joking right a bunch of question marks and then robinson says i am still okay my love but i am
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stuck in oreum for a little while longer shouldn't be long until i can come home but i gotta grab my
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rifle to be honest i had hoped to keep this secret till i died of old age i am sorry to involve you
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partner you weren't the one who did it right bunch of question marks robinson i am i'm sorry
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partner i thought they caught the person robinson no they grabbed some crazy old dude then
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interrogated someone in a similar closing i had planned to grab my rifle from the drop point shortly
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after but most of that side of town got locked down it's quiet almost enough to get out but there's
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one vehicle lingering partner why robinson why did i do it so yeah robinson i had enough of his
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hatred some of the hate can be negotiated out if i am able to grab my rifle unseen i will have left
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no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again hopefully they have moved on i haven't seen anything
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about them finding it so how long have you been planning this robinson and this is the one thing
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that makes me doubt this conversation because it's obvious from the number of people who knew about it and
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when they cited it that he had been planning this for two months but he plans a bit over a week i believe
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i can get close to it but there was a squad card parked by it i think they already swept that spot
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but i don't want to chance it my read here is that he's just lying i guess about how long he had been
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planning it or he is misremembering because he didn't really care that much like he might have
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fantasized about it for longer and talked to people and that's how they knew about the date
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and then only seriously started planning it for a couple weeks but anyway robinson i'm wishing i had
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circled back and grabbed it as soon as i got in my vehicle i'm worried what my old man would do if i
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brought it back to grandpa's rifle i don't know if i had a serial number but it wouldn't trace to me
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i worry about prints i had to leave it in a bush where i changed outfits i didn't have the ability or
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time to bring it whiz i might have to abandon it and hope they don't find the prints how the f would
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i explain losing it to my old man the only thing i left was the rifle wrapped in a towel remember how
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i was engraving bullets the effing messages are mostly a big meme if i see notices bulge uwu on fox news
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i might have a stroke all right i'm going to have to leave it that really effing sucks judging from
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today i'd say grandpa's gun goes just fine i don't know i think that was a 2k scope and then
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robinson my dad wants photos of the rifle he says grandpa wants to know who who was has what
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the feds released a photo of the rifle and it's very unique he's calling me right now and not
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answering robinson since trump got into office my dad has been pretty diehard maga robinson i'm going
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to turn myself in willingly one of the neighbors here is the deputy sheriff robinson
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you are all i worry about my love robinson i'm much more worried about you robinson don't talk to
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the media please don't take any interviews or make any comments if any police ask you questions
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ask for a lawyer and stay silent now note all of these were happening in real time as he was being
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caught so this doesn't seem like something he set up beforehand if he'd set it up beforehand i think
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the him being caught and the sloppiness on that front wouldn't be included in this whole thing meant
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to exonerate his partner and you're beginning to get this and no i want to point out you're
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referring to the mass shooting at the catholic church not the colorado mass shooting which took
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place like yeah but he didn't shoot anyone he he failed well he didn't kill anyone he did critically
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injure two girls and then killed himself yeah but he wasn't the colorado shooter just to be clear
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the colorado shooter school shooter was not that's right wing yeah so i decided to check on this because
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i had remembered vaguely from my research into the politics of this particular shooter they're like
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oh he was on nazi sites or extremist right wing sites and on a bunch of sites glorifying school
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attacks and i was like okay i guess but i've seen people say this for individuals who are not right
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wing in the past so i should look into it then i just looked into it again and it appears that he was
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more of a generic edgelord and people are categorizing edgelord sites as extremist right
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wing sites as opposed to just being like somebody who is obsessed with school gun things is also going
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to be obsessed with you know sometimes like just generic gore things which was one of the things he
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was into and other things that are going to shock people like nazi forms i will say that this is
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particularly rich given that the left is now trying to rebrand a number of west wing terrorists
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like the bombing of the pennsylvania governor's mansion and the charlie cook assassination as
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not actually left wing but this new thing called nihilistic violent extremists where they're just like
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well they're generic nihilists and that's why they're doing this stuff and i don't think this is
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this is very obviously not true and it's used to you know break from responsibility but i do think
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that you do sometimes get people who just are pure edgelords and like edgelording and especially
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young men especially young white men but i don't think that that's what we're seeing in these these
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left-wing cases where you do see very strong ties to you know actual left-wing arguments that
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they are making you know as you saw in the text of his when he was looking for his internal logic for
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why he killed charlie kirk he didn't say oh i'm just tired with the world and everything like that
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he believed that charlie kirk was hateful because he had been leading and listening to left-wing sources
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that had painted him that way by the way if you're wondering why nihilistic people do not do mass
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shootings nihilism is generally associated with a lack of agency and a disinterest in acting upon the
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world so if you wanted to go out you would just go out yourself whereas edgelording is related to
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trying to maximize the shock value you can get from the world which means that if you are going to go
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out you are going to go out attacking other people and this is why from the generic edgelords you can get
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mass violent behavior but from nihilists it is vanishingly uncommon and the however the catholic
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church shooter who did kill children was trans yes anyway so the point here being is i want to put
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out i don't even know these people are like i'm there's like this new opt-in gender identity so i'm
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not even going to lay this at the feet of the trans community i'm going to be like there's a certain
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political class on the left that when you reach a level of extremism you just transition because
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there's no other way to interact in these spaces without being a minority of some sort so if you're like
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a white man or woman you're sort of forced oh kind of how fundy fridays they they call themselves
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queer but we have no idea they're like very clearly married to a biologic like a person who was born a
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male and a person who was born a female and that's who they're married to but they call themselves queer
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all the time and talk about how they're oppressed for being queer all the time and it's like come on
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man that's that's still in valor right there but i want to go over like what these organizations
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are doing right now so you can see why jd vance may want to be fighting against this
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so a group called and this is brought to my attention by somebody on our discord
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a group called arm queers salt lake city slc is a socialist lgbtq plus organization focused on
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arming and training queer and trans people for quote-unquote community self-defense against
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capitalism fascism and state violence keep in mind that to them fascism is being a republican and
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wearing a red hat right like they regularly say this type of stuff so given when they say fighting
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against they mean against every day like 50 of the american population they collaborated with the
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elm fork branch of the john brown club to do like education programs with each other this was the
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branch that had a coordinated attack on an ice dissension detention center where automatic guns were
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fired at the detention center and a few guards were were shot did not die but yeah you might not have
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heard about this and recently they've been rabidly trying to clean their social media of these shared
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programs that they did but there's evidence of them that was dug up by data republican small r is what
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it's called at data republican now who who are these these these groups another thing that people pointed
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out about this group that i find particularly interesting that organized this armed attack and raid on an ice
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detention center which we'll get into in a second ermia for bananary the the founder and leader of arm
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queers slc has the 7 for 17 award which was annually recognized for achieving the un's goals as it says
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well come on we all know what the un's goals are yes working on the un's objective no no this
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checks out okay malcolm nothing nothing inaccurate was awarded nothing inaccurate was that no this was not
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for the organization that was arming people as has sort of been portrayed it was for a different
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organization that they won but they run both of these organizations so what does this organization
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fight for i found this particularly telling the armed queers leaders made it clear that they've been
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inspired by the cuban revolutionary revolution while over there because they went on a trip to cuba
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and they're like now we need to do what the cuban revolutionaries did you know go against like the
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voting public of the country in the united states right now because we are a at least nominally
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a democracy and that they're looking to bring the revolution back to america they the armed
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queers claim to abide by six principles an archive of the group's membership application describes the
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first principle is the quote armed and military protection of queer and trans communities in
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quote the group also aims to achieve quote the end of capitalist oppression and exploitation in
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quote the quote creation of a socialist society in quote quote trans liberation in quote and the
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quote abolition of prisons and police in quote and they think that this is what it is worth using
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guns and to do is what they are training to do i love it how they used to be all scared of like the
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the right-wing militia training in the woods or something and now you've got like literal
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money being funneled into these trans militia groups that are that are in many cases being abetted
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by u.s government institutions right and and this is why it makes sense for trump to go out there
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and this very group was doing their training i think it was in like 10 miles of where charlie kirk was
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shot now they were not involved in this they were potentially like like through the the connection
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and the group ties with the group that did the raid on ice which was a very similar group in a
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different location but not with a charlie kirk shooting so what what other things are they writing
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about quote when they came back from cuba they said victory is ours and revolution will come in
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quote and quote what did we bring back the main thing we brought back was a discipline from the
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lifestyle of the camp connor said and also i brought back a real feeling of inspiration and a
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feeling that we have a world to win and a feeling that victory is ours and revolution will come i think
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that's the real thing that we're bringing back is a will to affect change and a will to try to support
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the people of cuba and the revolution around the world um so keep in mind this is like their mindset
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they see they say oh we're fighting to protect our community from fascists where fascists is defined
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as people who vote for trump and as they regularly say and like your mainstream conservative and capitalism
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which is literally our current economic system in most of the world so rima said the trip to cuba was
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important for quote breaking the barrier of information that the u.s is trying to hide from us about just how
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successful the revolution is and just how steadfast and passionate the cuban people are in protecting
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the revolution in quote this is by the way cuba is not an awesome place to live especially right now
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it's a lot of starvation and stuff like that and if you look at the lived experiences of people who are
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not being paid by the cuban government i.e cuban refugees they do not paint a pretty picture uh imagine
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going to like north korea and taking what all of the tour guides were telling you at face value
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that is basically what they did but with cuba and being like oh those north korean refugees
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their lived experience doesn't matter because their in league was the capitalists they didn't run
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through minefields to get out you know uh but anyway thoughts before i go further simone no please
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tell me more i mean so i i also want to make sure because i'm most curious about the moral arguments of
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protecting free speech and i i feel so conflicted around i i want there to be open discourse also i
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think it's really important that we have open discourse because you kind of want to know
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when people have these things that are talking about these things like if this goes underground
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more or offline more people are going to be less aware of of radicalization as a problem and less
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able to detect it and so i do feel really conflicted about efforts to combat this or how they're
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executed and i'm curious to get your thoughts on how i mean one this this is proposed to be dealt with
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but also how you would deal with it we will get to that okay what i can say is i definitely wouldn't
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spend government dollars on training an organization that plans to kill half of americans you know they
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believe they have a moral license to kill 50 more than 50 of the american population here's another
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quote from them quote we are sharing this brigade not just other american brigistas but brigistas from
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around the world from south africa from ghana from latin american countries from austria and from germany
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remis said and essentially this will was an intentional brigade where they wanted brigistas with a revolutionary
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orientation with revolutionary politics to come and learn about the human revolution and essentially have to
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fight against the blockade that our country as american representatives on this trip was fully
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responsible for so basically fight against the u.s government okay now i wanted to learn more
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about this ice raid because i hadn't heard of this which again shows just how much stuff goes under the
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radar um like the the school shooting where nobody died that happened on the same day of charlie kirk
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that you were talking about that was like a republican extremist guy actually i should look into that
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because i always say that they're republican extremists and then you read their manifesto and they often aren't
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like i when i was doing stuff i said the christ church mosque shooter was a white nationalist which
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he was an anti-natalist he said he was killing muslims simply because muslims had more kids this is what
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he wrote in his manifesto yeah not because he was a great replacement theorist i mean i see how if
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you're a reporter brain you would go there but this isn't you know anyway on july 4th 2025 around 11 p.m
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a group of about a dozen assailants dressed in black military style clothing ambush the prairie land
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detention center an ice contracted facility in alvarado texas they set off fireworks at the
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destruction vandalized vehicles and opened fire with ar style rifles oh my gosh they shared 20 to
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30 rounds at unarmed correctional officers outside the facility and shot a responding alvaro police
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officer injuring him in the neck he survived though so one thank god these were like recently converted
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young maga people like the charlie kirk shooter but they were going out there with the intention of
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killing unarmed individuals who were working at this facility an unarmed police officer just
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reporting to violence they they really do when they say they want a world without police or prisons
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they mean we want to kill police and and anyone who works in in you know of the government services
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around 17 people were arrested and charged with federal and state crimes including the attempted
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murder of federal officers terrorism firearms offenses and and the assault so 17 individuals were
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involved in this raid the fbi described it as a targeted ambush on immigration enforcement
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in january 2023 armed queers slc announced and co-hosted a workshop titled protecting people's
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movements the rise in community defense with this other group the perpetrators on july 4th 2025
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shooting at purgant detention center were not random outsiders so i i asked in any way because i was
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like were these like random people who were just like signed up or were they like core movements
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operation right core active members of elm fork gb jb gc at the time of their movement of the 17
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arrested charged with crimes like attempted murder terrorism and assault most had documented ties to
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the group including leadership roles in protests and training benjamin hannell hill or benjamin song
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a former u.s marine reservist song was a prominent member who led armed counter protests for elm
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fork including at drag shows and abortion rights events he was sued in 2023 as a group member for
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alleged threats during a protest reportedly trained others in far left tactics song described as leading
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the ambush group of about 10 to 12 assassins or assailants other suspects several others including
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john philip thomas and lenite reed sharp charged as accessories had belonged to elm fork jbc reports indicate
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almost all of the dozen core attackers had ties with or long histories with protests both organized
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by the group and at blm events they were involved in blah blah blah now i also thought it was funny to
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just go into a bit more of how this armed queer group thinks because i think it's important what what
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are these people who are training to kill other americans in quote unquote their defense which they
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think you know anything that involves taking down half of americans is included in their defense
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quote you wouldn't find a single burgista that did not support palestine everywhere you would see
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support for palestine and that goes for the cuban country as a whole so i thought first of all very
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interesting here the support of palestine i've never really got like i really want to understand
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these people do they not think the people of palestine don't want to kill them like do they like
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not i i think malcolm i really don't think they're thinking about the people of palestine
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like honestly the the vibe i'm getting is the noble savage vibe i don't know what else to say
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they think that they can like civilize them or something which is what we would historically call
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cultural genocide it's they want to erase all of their cultural norms which is not a a great thing
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to do generally speaking but i hear you but here it just yeah it just feels really the way that
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they talk about them feels really dehumanizing and infantilizing i know that some some people
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who are activists actually do get to know real people in palestine on the ground and
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i'm not referring to them but when i hear about general people they're not really talking about
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stuff happening there that's real i don't know i don't know what to say
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yeah go on all right so then i had this thought to myself i'm like well you know anti-trans violence
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is real right like should they not be arming themselves to protect the trans community from
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violent crimes right i was like this is like a real potential thing and then i had unfortunately a
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very naughty follow-up thought which is wait a second but is it i should probably just run the
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numbers to check all right so there's a lot of groups that check how many trans and non-binary
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people are killed violently every year so i go to an ai i'll sort of walk you through my revelation
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on this because it gets progressively worse as it gets deeper and i was like okay calculate the rates
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that the orgs are saying number of trans people died versus the gen pop of violent murders okay
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and this is trans and non-binary people so you know a wide net here all right to calculate the
00:25:33.940
rates i'll use the midpoint of 31 transgender and gender expansive people killed in the u.s for 2024
00:25:38.880
due to fatal violence based on the 30 to 32 range from advocacy tracking for the transgender population
00:25:45.020
you have around 1.6 percent of the u.s transgender and non-binary of the u.s population so that's
00:25:50.580
approximately 340.1 million people in 2024 which equates to 5.44 million transgender individuals
00:25:59.320
now the transgender homicide rate that would mean that the transgender homicide rate is around 0.57
00:26:07.820
per 100,000 trans individuals the average american homicide rate is five what wait individuals that means
00:26:17.920
the transgender community and non-binary community has a homicide rate that is 11.4 percent the average american
00:26:26.240
that is wild hold on i was like okay this can't be right i must be under under doing the numbers here right
00:26:34.020
like right because i mean people who are trans end up going into sex work they have a lot of mental issues
00:26:40.320
like i would expect them i mean even even i and you too i imagine would expect a higher i expected a
00:26:48.160
higher so then i decided to go you know what i'm gonna go through every major trans reporting organization
00:26:52.880
so these are these organizations that are reporting this okay yeah yeah yeah okay so we got the human
00:26:57.360
rights campaign the hrc they had a reported deaths of 32 in 2024 so that would mean that the trans homicide
00:27:06.240
rate was 0.59 which was the number we got above so about 8.5x lower then the human rights campaign
00:27:13.200
we get for 2023 maybe 2024 was a fluke they have 36 that puts them at 0.66 so 13.2 percent of the gen pop
00:27:22.080
which is about 7.6x lower okay then we have every town for gun safety they had 33 that puts them at 0.61
00:27:31.360
12.2 percent of the gen pop 8.2x lower then you have statistica which had 29 0.53 this is for 2024
00:27:41.440
which put them at 10.6 of the gym pop or about 9.4x lower so you have about 10 times the rate of being
00:27:47.280
killed if you're not trans violently but then it gets worse it gets so much worse because i started to
00:27:52.560
read the fine print in these statistics as they were being reported okay the big one that jumped out at me
00:27:58.160
was across reports black trans women comprise around 50 percent of u.s victims
00:28:07.040
okay among trans homicide victims brown trans people who are killed violently this isn't just
00:28:12.240
homicide this is killed in crimes this is killed in bad drug trades so if you're trans on the site
00:28:17.600
the the black male to female trans group is getting the most heat the ones who are killed violently now
00:28:25.600
now do you understand why that's a big problem for these numbers
00:28:32.560
no i don't okay so off the top of your head how big do you think is the black trans woman portion of
00:28:41.440
the entire trans community pretty freaking small 4.3 percent oh wow oh oh so what does that mean
00:28:50.720
if you're not a trans black woman oh your homicide rate is in the trans community oh dear astoundingly
00:28:58.480
low you might as well be wearing an invincibility shield wherever you go you might be the most
00:29:04.960
privileged group in the entire united states in regarding violence we will get into those numbers
00:29:10.480
in just a second but i want to go over some other uncomfortable questions that i immediately had here
00:29:15.120
i was like oh well how how much is it just because you know all of these trans people who have the
00:29:21.840
guns we're like we want to fight blm and everything like that how much of trans violence is just black
00:29:27.360
people you know a much more conservative cultural group 78.6 of the trans black women who are killed
00:29:33.680
were killed by black people which is actually lower than gen pop if you're a black person and you're
00:29:38.000
going to be violently murdered there is a 90 chance that a black person will do it to you
00:29:41.920
so yeah not awesome none of this looks good none none of this looks good okay so i had to
00:29:48.720
recalculate some of the numbers here if you do the human rights campaign number you're now looking
00:29:52.880
at a number that is 15.6 x lower than the gen pop if you if you do the statistic a number you're
00:29:59.040
now looking at a number that is 19.2 x lower than the gen pop oh good lord no yeah that was not
00:30:10.080
i i i i love it when i run into like statistics and i'm just like i did not expect that at all
00:30:15.920
but and i guess it makes sense when you consider that even though they earn less they are in very
00:30:22.320
sort of privileged community environments and that that can help protect them from violence they're much
00:30:28.720
more likely to live in group houses they're much more likely to be constantly surrounded by other
00:30:32.720
individuals which may put them in a a safer position than your average american that that can be my
00:30:39.120
only guess yeah i am trying to work out in my head what is so protective about this a whole other
00:30:45.040
episode why why are they so why is the trends invincibility shield explained but now we're going
00:30:52.640
to go into a new york times piece that was titled some of the highest ranking officials in the federal
00:30:58.960
government used charlie kirk's podcast guests hosted by vice president jd vance to lay out their plans
00:31:04.640
okay um and to just jump right into this white house officials senior advisor steven miller described
00:31:11.760
the left as a vast domestic oh this isn't from the piece this is from just general stuff the white
00:31:16.800
house is saying before we get to the piece senior advisor steven miller described the left as a quote
00:31:22.320
vast domestic terror movement in quote it emphasized the need to combat quote the left-wing extremism and
00:31:28.080
terrorism that we're seeing within our country today in quote the white house has promised to
00:31:32.560
broad crackdown on quote unquote terrorist left-wing organizations and i'll note here i i do not like
00:31:39.200
him saying the entire left is a vast terrorist organization because i think that that is
00:31:42.960
exactly mirroring the language that the left is using fortunately if you look at the statistics and
00:31:47.600
you're like see the right does this as well the number of right-wingers who are willing to say that
00:31:52.480
somebody should be killed because of their political beliefs is dramatically lower than the number of left-wingers
00:31:59.200
we went over this in a previous episode but the number of left-wingers who think that you know you
00:32:03.040
have a right to assassinate the president was over 50 percent and there was a really interesting post
00:32:08.000
that looked at this after assassinations on both sides so you can see how after the the nancy pelosi
00:32:14.880
thing and after the charlie kirk thing so you could see how it shifts based on whether or not you're
00:32:19.200
thinking like your evoked side is your side um jd vance said there's a quote-unquote vast domestic
00:32:25.680
terrorist network which there is i mean we just documented it right here so to continue with what
00:32:31.440
the new york times is saying here oh by the way any thoughts you have before i go further
00:32:37.120
i'm still reeling from the trans homicide data so i i'm stunned here i want to see what the us
00:32:46.240
government's gonna do yeah and if you're like well the 1.6 number is too high even if the number was
00:32:52.240
only half the 1.6 number which is below almost any estimate of trans and non-binary individual i've
00:32:57.040
seen their rates would still be dramatically lower especially if you don't include the the black
00:33:02.640
women so you can't even say like i was fudging the numbers with the 1.6 number yeah so or you can't say
00:33:10.080
i was choosing republican sources because these are trans organizations that are cataloging these yeah
00:33:15.360
skipping in a bit into the article to get past the boring stuff the white house and president
00:33:19.600
trump's allies suggest that he was part of a coordinated movement that was fermenting violence
00:33:24.240
against conservatives uh see our last episode on how did so many trans people know that the
00:33:28.640
shirley cook was going to be killed on the tents because he was it's very clear a lot of people
00:33:32.480
seem to be aware of this beforehand there were groups that he referenced on his bullet casing
00:33:37.120
saying before he was caught hey guys make sure you're using encrypted stuff yes i'm talking about
00:33:41.360
that you know what i'm talking about so clearly there was and and now the fbi is actually going
00:33:46.000
after these groups it'd be cool if we see a crackdown on this i'm really curious to see what's
00:33:50.160
going to happen i'm 48 confident that nothing will happen but we'll see without press press and then
00:33:59.600
they note here when they talk about this vast network they say without presenting evidence that
00:34:03.600
such a network existed america has seen a wave of violence across the political spectrum targeting
00:34:08.480
democrats and republicans and here i'd point out like look at our podcast episode from yesterday
00:34:12.720
we bring receipts this is a real thing that is happening and we even just in this podcast discussed
00:34:18.400
a group that is part of a network training individuals in the use of guns to fight against
00:34:25.200
capitalism around the united states that is doing things like raids on isis centers where they are
00:34:31.280
shooting like 30 40 rounds of automatic weapons ice not isis oh ice ice i'm thinking i'm thinking
00:34:40.480
they're isis there that's that's who their friends are they need to go go join isis right to see how
00:34:45.280
well that goes on monday two senior administration officials who spoke anonymously to describe the
00:34:50.240
internal planning said that cabinet secretaries and federal department heads were working to identify
00:34:54.960
organizations that funded or supported violence against conservatives the goal they said was to
00:34:59.520
categorize left-wing activity that led to violence as domestic terrorism note here i want to be like
00:35:04.640
this is the most reasonable thing possible they're not saying left-wing activity more broadly
00:35:09.280
they're saying left-wing activity that led to acts of violence which we know is a thing so let's crack
00:35:15.280
down on it why why are you protected from this and we're not like you do this to right-wingers every
00:35:21.520
single administration i mean you you literally do it to like a mainstream you will like get google to
00:35:31.120
like demonetize like sargon of akkad who's like pretty milk toast in his views it's not like extremist
00:35:38.880
republicans you're doing this to it is uk centrists which is which is very not that strong of a republican
00:35:46.400
juice but the the dictatorial level which they implemented this and then it's like how can he slap
00:35:51.600
when when our site is like hey we should you know after one of our advocates gets killed no not an
00:35:58.000
active politician no not like out there doing anything that's actually hurting people just
00:36:03.600
having debates with people on college campuses and people will lie about the things he said to try to
00:36:07.200
make him look racist or xenophobic really the only thing he was was anti-gay for religious reasons
00:36:11.280
and anti-trans for religious reasons which i mean he's allowed to have his religion like with the
00:36:15.840
that's just bigotry to say he's not allowed to have his religion and every other quote that you'll find
00:36:19.760
from him i don't have time to go through and debunk them all just go to an ai and you think you have
00:36:23.600
heard a quote that makes him look really bad and ask what the context was because every time you'll
00:36:27.440
learn that either it's just a complete fabrication or the context completely explains it yeah that's
00:36:32.080
a wild thing jd vance talked about the in the nation or something this main publication they post
00:36:37.200
this horrible thing about how he's so racist and he says that black women just don't have uh the iq
00:36:43.360
to hold positions of power and then if you go to the actual quote what he said was because of
00:36:49.280
dei programs people who do not have the intellectual capacity for certain roles are being put in those
00:36:56.480
roles he did not at all say black women don't have the capacity for these roles he's saying and everybody
00:37:01.680
knows this the very point of dei programs is to put less qualified people into positions of more
00:37:08.480
authority than they're able to achieve if they were solely judged on their merit with the understanding
00:37:12.880
that their merit is being artificially like negatively impacted based on their environment even
00:37:18.480
though their entire life they have had a dei advantage right so you don't you know but the
00:37:23.440
point here being you you go to his stuff because somebody was like he is not mainstream boomer
00:37:28.480
conservative if you think that it's because you have been manipulated into what his actual views were
00:37:32.960
his actual views are are not that extreme but anyway an escalation that critics say could lay the
00:37:38.400
ground words for crushing anti-conservative dissent more broadly some of the highest ranking officials
00:37:42.640
of the federal government used mr kirk's podcast the charlie kirk show to lay out their plans from his
00:37:47.600
official office at the white house vice president jd vance served as a guest host of the podcast
00:37:53.280
inviting senior members of the administration including stephen miller the president's top
00:37:58.640
policy advisor to praise mr kirk while also detailing their plans to crack down on what they called leftist
00:38:04.800
non-governmental organizations the show was broadcast on the television screens in the white
00:38:09.520
house briefing room and in several west wing offices in their comments mr vance and mr miller spoke in
00:38:15.040
vague and menacing terms about the far left groups that they said facilitated violence what i love
00:38:20.080
here is they they're they're like people will talk about the right being fascist all the time right
00:38:26.080
at least they use vague but menacing terms right miller said that a formal effort would be coming with
00:38:32.080
federal agencies rooting out what he referred to as a domestic terror movement which definitely exists
00:38:37.200
we've detailed it today and yesterday and they would be doing it in kirk's name miller says
00:38:43.040
with god as my witness we are going to use every resource we have at the department of justice
00:38:47.840
homeland security and throughout this government to identify disrupt eliminate and destroy this network
00:38:52.880
and make america safe again for the american people that's so vague what does that mean
00:38:58.560
what does it mean we're going to like i was shocked when i heard because on yesterday's episode we
00:39:04.160
pointed out this like group of half a thousand trans people that said charlie kirk was going to be shot on
00:39:10.560
the tense in in very documented posts and songs and stuff like that no i will say here one of them
00:39:17.440
was a cisgendered male in the group only one of them was a documented cisgender male and the one
00:39:21.600
documented cisgender male used to go by they them pronouns so they were definitely in the community
00:39:27.760
but the point here being is and again i'm saying not all trans people right like there's a variety of
00:39:33.840
trans expressions but we need to be aware that there is like the zizians trans murder cults out
00:39:40.400
there now and we do need to and as i pointed out the zizians have now have a higher kill count than
00:39:45.600
the manson family like if you're comparing it with like what you think historically oh the reason i think
00:39:49.600
it's really important to note that char charlie kirk was just an activist like he was not a politician
00:39:57.360
is because if you're talking about just activists like almost nobody shoots these people
00:40:01.360
and the last time this happened was mlk that i'm aware of which is like really severe when you're
00:40:07.600
getting to you know free speech activists being killed by people who don't want you know free
00:40:12.320
speech happening in this country now to continue here i'm going to skip a little bit of this because
00:40:18.560
you get the idea one of the things i thought was pretty interesting is how they want to go about this
00:40:23.440
yeah i want to hear the specifics yeah well the core thing that they appeared to want to do is more
00:40:28.720
doxing but anyway i was surprised that you're going to do is basically finding these individuals
00:40:32.720
and doxing them and having them face legal repercussions um and i think more broadly using
00:40:39.600
government resources to dox individuals which are pushing for violence and note here like when the
00:40:48.800
trump administration is talking about pushing for violence like the the examples they're giving are
00:40:52.560
people who are actually pushing for violence now obviously the the risk here is the left takes this and
00:40:57.440
then the left redefines violence as anything that makes them uncomfortable and you have pointed out
00:41:01.920
that this is a risk right but the problem is is you're like what if the left takes these systems
00:41:08.000
and then uses them with their own definitions and it's like the left is already doing that every time
00:41:14.640
they come into power they demonetize right-wingers they get them fired from their jobs from milquetoast
00:41:20.240
tastes they we've seen this over with for covet right saying hey you know the the ceo the person who's
00:41:26.000
next in line to be ceo of levi being like hey this closing down of schools in minority neighborhoods
00:41:30.560
is disproportionately hurting minority students we shouldn't be doing this yeah and she had to resign
00:41:34.320
right like destroying people's lives for for what are you know in reflection very accurate takes that
00:41:44.160
even support what left-wing people say is their agenda yeah do you have thoughts oh i i like this one as
00:41:54.480
well because we're talking about sort of like trans tifa this this faction here oh in responding to
00:41:58.960
fox news report terena catherine agabaza senior video producer for media watchdog media matters
00:42:06.000
tweeted the new right-wing paranoid delusion just dropped but it's like a thing that we're seeing
00:42:11.840
i don't understand it's not a delusion right like remember when they pretended didn't they pretend
00:42:15.360
that antifa wasn't real for a while is this just me yeah they did pretend that for a while i think
00:42:19.440
you're right antifa a conspiracy theory and now they're like not even you know but yeah someone
00:42:25.040
just dm'd us on x and they were like i wish people would talk more about trans tifa because
00:42:33.040
i was punched in the face by one at a protest because i had a school sign that said something
00:42:38.000
like keep the cult out of my school oh this happens constantly rightly gains was assaulted by one
00:42:43.440
like the problem is i'd love to talk more about it but i don't know where to get the documentation
00:42:47.920
because again oh i listed the documentation for this episode i was going to do an episode
00:42:51.440
on trans tifa yeah the reason we don't have the documentation is it's too decentralized this thing
00:42:57.040
it's just people reporting on the ground about what's happening then because the mainstream media
00:43:00.640
isn't covering this in any systematic way and so so trans tifa is just antifa what trans tifa is is
00:43:07.920
people who are in sort of communist factions of antifa which is all of antifa so so antifa like this
00:43:13.280
broader culture begin to feel uncomfortable being in the organization while being a white male and so
00:43:20.000
they transition that's that's what i think we're seeing here i don't even think it's a real trans
00:43:23.920
movement and and i personally think the real trans community would do well to publicly disavow this
00:43:30.880
stuff and and be like you know the we need to work and and you need to police your own communities
00:43:36.240
first right like we regularly talk about against like racists on our show right like it's something
00:43:42.480
that they should be doing more of themselves because these people are out there like assaulting
00:43:46.800
women and stuff like that and instead of being jeered by the left-wing influences they're being cheered
00:43:55.520
so so that's the problem is it is it's just regular antifa has way more trans people in it now
00:44:01.520
not i think due to an influx of trans people in antifa but an understanding that the reason why
00:44:06.160
people are in antifa that gives them a psychological license to attempt to kill or assault
00:44:10.160
50 percent of the u.s population and they get the additional psychological license when they go to
00:44:15.120
the they're killing us by not recognizing our gender identity again if you want to see this
00:44:20.080
it's just factually not true a trans atlantic article did a piece on this where they looked
00:44:24.400
at the trans supreme court case having to admit in front of the supreme court and that when they
00:44:28.320
blocked purity blockers in the uk unaliving rates didn't go up it is not the case it's just a fake
00:44:33.680
fake information but it is used to dehumanize others and it's very effective so i think it just gives
00:44:37.840
them sort of double jeopardy which makes them extra antifa that makes sense yeah you want to hear more
00:44:44.640
about armed queers they they held defense they held events with stonewall self-defense a group which
00:44:50.560
provides jiojitsu mma and focuses on queer trans comrades what is rampage said the group's manager is
00:44:58.800
sebastian livingston who was chair of the eco-socialist commission for the socialist party usa stonewall
00:45:06.480
self-defense recently held a training event with convicted felon eric king join us in welcoming
00:45:12.160
eric king they say former political prisoner and world-class amateur boxer to stonewall self-defense
00:45:17.920
for a weekend of radical self-defense eric king has dedicated his life to fighting for a freer world
00:45:23.440
stonewall defense said in june quote what is jiojitsu do i need to look this up i guess if you want to i
00:45:31.440
don't know what it is gio yeah anyway so what was this guy charged with so no this isn't something he
00:45:40.800
did after working with the group this is something he did before working with the group okay so they
00:45:47.200
knew he had done this when they invited him over right king was charged in 2014 for attempting to
00:45:53.840
firebomb a congressional office in kansas city oh good lord hammer to break a window and threw a molotov
00:46:00.560
cocktail into the office of representative emmanuel clover the second king pleaded guilty in 2016
00:46:06.880
using explosive materials to commit arson and so he even admits this and was sentenced to a decade in
00:46:11.520
prison he was released from prison in 2023 it a from unicorn riot a self this is according to
00:46:19.200
unicorn riot a self-defense but a tax-exempt media outlet while behind bars so wrote this guy tried to
00:46:25.840
murder a congressman with a molotov cocktail in a horrible way and he's working with like this
00:46:31.760
network of organizations that is training the basically trans tifa to use assault weapons while
00:46:40.720
behind bars king wrote a book called titled antifa in prison with radical paper press describing king as
00:46:46.800
a vegan anarchist anarchist and political prisoner he's not a political prisoner he tried to murder an
00:46:52.320
innocent person what are you talking about you you try to firebomb an elected official's office and
00:46:58.560
then you call yourself a political person that's i'm a political i'm really i only i i i i guess the
00:47:07.360
people who try to assassinate a president they're political prisoners firebombing is just political
00:47:11.760
expression yes king also helped put together and ran and edited the book rattling the cages oral histories
00:47:18.080
of the north american political prisoners was a foreword written by angela davis the former vice
00:47:23.200
presidential candidate of the communist party usa king describes himself as an activist and anti-fascist
00:47:28.480
again no they think you are a fascist if you watch this show to this point without turning it off
00:47:33.600
you are probably under the fascist category in these people's minds because you are fascist curious
00:47:38.400
enough to be educated in the same way that like what was it the the how dare you girl oh greta
00:47:44.240
tunberg yes how she refused to even watch the promotional videos that were put out by you know
00:47:51.680
the very people who did the the attacks on israel she's like i don't know i won't watch their videos
00:47:56.560
but i don't want to see anything they've done i just have one moral for that could that could taint me
00:48:01.200
i might i might start agreeing with you or sympathizing with you you know davis after her
00:48:06.560
arrest and acquittal for her involvement in the murder committed by black panthers is currently
00:48:11.920
a distinguished professor emirati oh wow wait so davis angela davis this other woman
00:48:18.240
she was arrested for her involvement in the murder committed by the black panthers and she's
00:48:23.840
currently a distinguished professor emirata at the history of consciousness and feminist studies
00:48:27.680
department at the university of california santa cruz oh dear okay if you want to get some of the
00:48:33.920
stuff they're saying about israel no pride and apartheid armed queer said on facebook 2023 as the
00:48:40.240
attacks against occupied palestine continue at the hands of israel in the united states queer
00:48:44.320
trans and feminist organizations around the world have overwhelmingly come out in solidarity with the
00:48:49.120
palestinian struggle and have rejected pink washing tactics that use our name for colonial efforts
00:48:55.760
i don't know if you like you know i need to use the scene here it is symbolic of our struggle against
00:49:01.040
oppression symbolic of his struggle against reality what happened to a gay couple in gaza executed
00:49:07.200
according to muslimic law islam doesn't endorse gays islam doesn't endorse homosexuality just like
00:49:12.960
canada doesn't endorse a lot of things so would you like to see sharia law in canada replace canadian law
00:49:18.240
at some point it will you know because we are we have families we are making babies you're not your
00:49:23.120
population is going down the slump right and by 2060 according to pure research institute your research
00:49:30.160
by 2060 muslims will be the biggest religious group the world over what are you going to do then
00:49:35.600
actually you know what i'm very appreciative of the honesty we don't usually get that one day we
00:49:43.440
can have a muslim majority nation here in canada right in your face but this like actually really
00:49:49.840
gets me because they they cheer for charlie kirk's death and they say the reason they're cheering for
00:49:56.240
it is because a bunch of views that the very people who they're freaking out that they're dying in gaza
00:50:02.080
also hold why is it a problem for a christian to hold these views but not a problem for a muslim to
00:50:09.200
hold these views just the inconsistency here baffles me you know because that's that's you know
00:50:18.720
these groups are not shy in what they think about i think it's that the the these gay communities just
00:50:26.400
so dehumanize the palestinian people they see them so much as just like little idiot half child
00:50:32.960
half savages that they are not responsible for their own beliefs in the same way that like an
00:50:38.320
american christian is responsible for their own beliefs yeah or their own actions you know they can
00:50:42.640
go out and do whatever they want it doesn't matter if they do whatever they want because they
00:50:45.600
are not the same type of thing a human like that's the only real like psychological thing i can get from
00:50:51.760
them is they don't believe that these people are responsible for their own stated beliefs and
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preferences yeah they treat them like children yeah which is ironically much more racist than
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the other side anyway that's simone on all this that's happening i mean what would you do my my
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biggest concern here is that this is while the people involved on the right are looking for practical
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solutions to end political violence and maximize public discourse what i fear will happen is that
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people will advocate for and in some cases implement policies that are really just more about suppressing
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political speech functionally which if codified in law or policy will then be used by the left next time
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they're in office or in the majority to stifle political speech on the right and i don't
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like i really i appreciate the point that you made yesterday that there are more underlying issues
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that need to be addressed that are causing this like allowing culturally for people to believe that
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something is murder and therefore they're justified in killing someone who does that thing so if if words
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are murder or violence then you are justified in committing murder or violence against someone who uses
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this one defining words as murder or violence when they don't cause violence or murder is equivalent
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to murder or violence because once you draw this equivalence once you see that charlie kirk's
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assassination came downstream of this belief you understand how virulently you need to fight against
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anybody who states this belief well where i struggle with this is i mean okay are you going to apply
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the same reasoning though to something like someone who would bomb an abortion clinic in a way
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that kills people um because they believe that those people are committing murder and here you have
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people with different definitions it's not comparable at all okay i disagree with the people who say that
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life begins at conception okay i disagree with them but their world philosophy is internally logically
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consistent right but i think a trans person's world philosophy no it is not is because if if i will die
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because someone is is suppressing my ability to transition then you're committing murder
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simone the point i'm making here and this is an important point if trans people who were not
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transitioning were dying at a way higher rate okay if we did see a jump in unaliving in the uk when
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they banned puberty blockers so you're saying the difference with this trans belief is that it's provably wrong
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whereas with the belief that life begins a conception isn't provably wrong yes they're they're they're
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were they're they're basing their belief on something that is provably not true um that that is the
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difference between these two groups right the other group's belief is downstream of their religious
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metaphysical framework and it's not like a metaphysical framework they made up to justify
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their belief it's one that people have had for like half a century um it's it's one that many
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people in early american history would have had it is not a like a a like i i just again i disagree
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with it i do not think it's something they should be doing i do not understand how something without
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neural tissue can have a soul like i just don't it doesn't make a lick of sense to me it doesn't make a
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lick of sense to me that if if embryos did have a soul that human identical twins could exist because that's when
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an embryo splits after that would mean that the soul is splitting and we don't think that that happens
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so then insolument happens later for some embryos that doesn't make sense to me and then human chimeras
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share a soul that's when two fertilized embryos combine later into one person that that doesn't make
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sense like why would god allow all of that if if they did have souls like i can look at that and just
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be like i disagree with it but it doesn't disprove their position right it's different in perspective
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in many ways they are more justified in just being like well you making me feel uncomfortable
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is equivalent to murdering me i mean obviously no one historically believes this and this is something
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they made up just to justify themselves but at least it's like a metaphysical framework instead of
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something that's factually untrue i think maybe a historical equivalent would be dueling people would
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essentially intend to kill people and and challenge them put them in a situation where they were
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obligated to engage in an activity that could kill them if they felt insulted by them that i mean
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that was done you know like i'm just saying this isn't unprecedented and what i'm interested in is
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non-partisan solutions that address the underlying problems which seem to be downstream of a loss of
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touch with reality and things that matter it is symbolic of our struggle against oppression
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like with dueling like it was so stupid that people would be like you've questioned my honor
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like dude just grow a pair of balls and show that you're honorable and you don't have to like
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kill someone to show that you you know like that that's stupid but that's a cultural difference right
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like this is right but i mean transness is a cultural difference i just i i want i want a
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future of pluralism where you're not like we're going to exterminate this culture because they're wrong
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but simone what you're missing is you are in dueling does not impose a culture on another group
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for a duel to happen both parties needed to consent um so both parties are part of the culture
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yeah they both had to engage in the delusion yeah like yeah i guess dueling would be like
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if only trans people shot each other for misgendering each other yeah if that is where
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it went if only trans people could be fired for misgendering that's different yeah they're implying
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their culture to people who do not share their cultural practices well but people bombing abortion
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clinics are applying their culture to people which but their culture says that that clinic is killing
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you know thousands of babies a day right and trans culture is believing because also they they
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don't they don't believe your data is legitimate for you what if a group of progressives decided
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that they were going to start exposing babies and there was a baby exposure clinic and from your
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cultural because they'd say look babies aren't fully neurally developed yeah they're not a full human yet
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they'd use many of the same arguments that people use around abortion and then say we're going to
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expose them would you be justified in murdering the people who ran that clinic because it's their
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cultural framework i know i mean i think it's one of those louis g mangani issues right we're like
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people into their own hands and they're going to get punished for it
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um but it may be worth it so so this might be surprising to some christians i mean like wait i
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as a christian am not supposed to interfere with a clinic that's exposing babies and i'm like how do
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we know that well because we know our early christian fathers when christianity was spreading
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you can look at our video was christianity really more moral the dominant practice around the christian
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community at the time was exposure of unwanted infants well that whole thing about the rise in
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christianity was because christians didn't practice exposure right but they didn't force
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their beliefs around exposure yeah yeah on pagan families yeah if they had felt that way we would
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have reports of it because that would have really freaked out the romans if all they did for example
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was rescue the abandoned babies hmm the romans would freak out about that because we saw how much
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the romans freaked out about the jews doing this we talk about tactics complaining about how the jews are
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so evil because they don't even expose their babies i always love that one if you do or if you don't
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when christians come to power the jews kill babies that's the blood libel myth and and when when the
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romans are in power the jews are evil because they don't kill babies and you're aware that a bunch of
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people are convinced that massad was somehow behind the charlie kirk assassination what i know charlie
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kirk was wildly pro israel i know i'm just telling you what people are i hate it's always massad
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charlie kirk dying is a huge loss to israel because not every right-wing influencer is fanatically pro
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israel many right-wing influencers candace owens for example are anti-israel wiping out one of the
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mainstream u.s right-wing influencers who is a really strong pro israel force and was young so would be
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alive for a long time and likely grow in influence was would massad's not idiots okay guys like you
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they pulled off the pager thing they pulled off the look i'm not saying like if candace owens died
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and somebody was like massad did it i'd be like i will explore well and also even with epstein you
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were like i am not gonna say it wasn't massad like yeah it's not like you're i'm not again saying it's
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massad when massad has an interest in something charlie kirk was not massad and people have been
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like oh i know it goes against the narrative but i think it was one of charlie of kirk's guards and
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i'm like what are you talking about nothing could go against the narrative more for progressives at
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least than that it was somebody was a trans partner and it was connected to a wide trans network of
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influencers right like that that seems way worse for the narrative than than massad or or well
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massad would be worse for the narrative but but the the one of his guards did it and and also keep in
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mind this guy like basically admitted to this was in discord now like all of his friends on discord
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thought he would have done something like this and he previously was like all maga up until college
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you think you're gonna get some like bright-eyed bushy tail like mormon boy and convince him to throw
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away his life on this for some like psyop operation i i don't think so the argument is that massad in
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the past has used 4chan to radicalize people politically and that now it uses trans discord
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servers anyway though that's i wouldn't be just telling you sometimes it's just this is against
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massad's interest yeah i can't see how it helps him but whatever anyway all right love you to decimum i love
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you team malcolm yes anything you know i only get like the positive emotions from like one like i
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think it takes like 10 positive comments to make one mean comment oh of course yeah comment this morning
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and i just i just blew my gasket especially when they're just like wrong like they're like you guys
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know nothing about what you're talking to the shooter of the whatever assassin guy he was a a far
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right activist and i was like i can't like robinson like argue about this and be like what are you
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how are you this gooned in in the head yeah like if your parents are x no people in the comments of of
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the video they're in today on all the trans people associated with the charlie kirk assassination
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pointed that out they're like all these people who think that if you're raised by republicans you are
01:02:19.520
going to be a republican have never heard of like the preacher's daughter trope statistically you are
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eight out of ten probability you're a republican if you're raised republican nine yeah i guess maybe
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i just see that so it's preposterous because consider the political affiliation of my parents
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well yeah that my mom wanted to one out of ten raised democrats who go republican but i think your
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parents are republicans now i would not be surprised if they vote trump come on my mom wanted to
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to your mom i think your dad now is your dad still a democrat i'm pretty sure he is yeah move to texas
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those texans are not going to be happy about that i don't think he tells anyone about it but he said a
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bunch of things to make me think he's still very much a democrat but the point being is yeah i you
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had a higher probability but he got into the education system his parents didn't give him proper inoculation
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i assume you know and this is a big problem with mormon families is they don't give their kids enough
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sexual education and so it provides oh no and so then they yeah when they like actually look into
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sex they can end up going in crazy directions yeah because there's like a huge hole in their brain
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about like arousal and pornography and fetishes and and they're like well you wouldn't be aroused by
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x unless you were possessed by a demon and it's like well i'm not possessed by a demon so this falls
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into like dumb stuff and i'm gonna yeah i i i do not agree with the mormon relationship with i i think
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like it makes you very very very at risk of having your kids cooked if you're like super anti-sex and
01:03:50.240
porn if anything i think there's a lot of things that we would agree with like you don't need to
01:03:55.120
build your entire life and identity around your arousal pathways but then we would also like don't
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live in ignorance of arousal pathways and how they work and how human sexuality works because
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that's also going to land you in a lot of trouble so they get something living in fear or something
01:04:10.240
still letting it control your life you know yeah yeah 100 it's it's it's just have discipline you
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know like the randy mars yeah they're taking the wrong approach to arousal too like i think our
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approach with arousal is like the dune approach to fear fear is the mind killer you let it pass through
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you and only you are left right that is arousal yeah um whereas like mormons are like no the mormons
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don't let the arousal pass through them and they don't let themselves they just instead they're
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like no i shield and then like no it destroys it destroys them you can't pretend it's not there
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you can't it doesn't destroy all of them kids at more risk i mean especially during that extra
01:04:50.240
horny like teenage time period like oh my god if you had told me if you told me today while i think it
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worked because it got young couples to get married real fast yeah it doesn't happen doesn't happen
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anymore yeah i mean it still does happen but you know just i think there are many more damaging
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