Based Camp - April 25, 2025


Was Banishing Libs to the Bluesky Crystal a Mistake?!

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In this episode, we discuss whether or not blue sky is a good thing or a bad thing for the left. We discuss the numbers behind it and the current state of anti-leftism on it. We also talk about our plans for the future of the podcast and why we think it should be called a cult.

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00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be with you here today today we are going to be discussing
00:00:06.720 as people with a tech right or new right perspective is blue sky a good thing or a bad
00:00:16.920 thing because part of me feels a bit like we there was this meme for a while that the left
00:00:24.520 was going to be banished in crystals and that we were going to trap them there under the trump
00:00:29.160 administration and with blue sky it's like it came through it's like in superman where the enemy
00:00:35.100 is banished to a crystal and then shot into outer space where they can't interact with anyone else
00:00:40.320 and they're like ah no more harm
00:00:42.400 you will not down before me jor-el
00:00:55.960 but then on the other side you're like well is it really good to like isolate these communities
00:01:06.120 where they can radicalize did we want this everyone likes me and thinks i'm great in my safe
00:01:13.760 space my safe space people forget how bad these communities used to be and do not remember like
00:01:22.640 how evil leftists actually are and because i we've heard you know you're on npr and and the guy was
00:01:29.200 like oh no normal leftist would ever say that and you're like literally every day somebody says i'm a
00:01:34.120 nazi like i know you say no normal leftist would ever say this but they do so first i want to get
00:01:40.860 into what i mean by all of this so blue sky if you just look at the numbers and you're not being
00:01:48.320 delusional but we will go into the rest of the numbers because they're actually pretty interesting
00:01:51.960 gets about 3.5 million active users a day and x on the other hand gets 259 million active users a day
00:01:59.980 which means that blue sky is getting 1.35 the users of x yeah or twitter it's so small it's so small i
00:02:09.640 didn't realize before going into this just how small it was i had no idea basically nobody uses it except
00:02:15.900 for and and i will note that enough of the people who used to participate in like cancellation mods
00:02:22.140 mobs use it then we have gone viral on blue sky like i don't know last weekend or something and we
00:02:29.540 have stopped going viral on twitter entirely we used to do this thing called media baiting where
00:02:33.320 we try to freak out progressives you know she dressed like a handmaid right and then they'd come do some 1.00
00:02:38.020 pro natalist piece on us and then we do something to freak them out and then we go viral and it was
00:02:43.900 great for you know growing attention growing interest and yet it doesn't work anymore like literally
00:02:50.120 cancellation stopped working in part because everyone involved in them went to blue sky
00:02:55.840 but now they're just yelling at each other although i i will say that it's not just like we went viral
00:03:01.760 on it last weekend or last week there are posts about us from all sorts of time ranges and there's also
00:03:09.040 this concerted desire in the community to not talk about us along the lines of that one article saying
00:03:14.460 stop talking about simone and malcolm collins one person on blue sky lizzie o'leary posted i think
00:03:21.620 you call it skeeting because you're skying slash tweeting she skeeted i'm issuing an executive order
00:03:28.020 banning writing about malcolm and simone collins anymore on february 4th 2025 which was quite a while ago
00:03:36.500 actually it didn't work because we've gone viral on blue sky since then it really didn't yeah and like
00:03:42.540 people people just like to go on there and make fun of us for no particular reason on april 14th
00:03:49.580 max posted whenever i see that one eugenics couple i think they look like a pair of protractors that 0.99
00:03:54.520 were brought to life by a magic wishing star it's fun by a magic wishing star i guess i guess i could
00:04:04.160 look like a protract i guess he means i'm skinny he must be in a world i think like a protractor i think
00:04:09.000 they're just thinking like can i think of a nerdy object and then humanize it with magic i i don't
00:04:14.380 know though i mean you're doing the yankee thing so we've been thinking i like what can i dress as if
00:04:20.580 she's gonna dress as like a pilgrim like full japanese yankee with like the hair back the whole 1.00
00:04:25.820 greaser outfit i'm so for it i'm ready i'm still a little too timid to do the full pompadour look but
00:04:31.780 we'll see we'll see give it time you have the hair for it you can get the volume i do so you know
00:04:38.620 our podcast even got a shout out on blue sky someone someone radical agile gach slash college
00:04:46.100 hill wrote simone and malcolm collins the tech eugenicist couple just dropped a strong contender
00:04:51.440 for worst podcast of 2025 where they compare gender transition to lobotomies
00:04:56.780 which is just it is exactly like lobotomies and it will be viewed in the future that way
00:05:06.200 we now he argues clearly the cult here because we talk about cults in the in the podcast is all the
00:05:13.380 trans people and not an insular group of weird venture capitalists who want to create the uber
00:05:18.100 bench they have not such a people view of us that's very we're in the process we're in the
00:05:26.580 process okay you're not denying are you no don't deny it if we remember what niche was it's just a
00:05:32.400 self-actualized individual like no and we want human flourishing that is 100 percent what we're
00:05:37.580 going for genetic perfection it just meant being self-actualized and making your own choices about
00:05:44.140 what's right and wrong that's what it meant to be an uber bench not basing your morality off of a
00:05:48.540 pre-existing moral set and i'm like are we trying to create the uber bench was that what all of our
00:05:54.200 education we want oh we want a universe full of uber uber what are they mentions munchens 0.98
00:05:59.820 with minchai minchai i i i i love that they're watching our podcast yeah i mean you know fans of the
00:06:08.960 pod shout out to all of you on blue sky yes oh do you have any other blue skies that you clipped
00:06:14.300 these are fun to listen to i mean a lot of them just make fun of our appearance like the the
00:06:19.580 protractors one another guy took a screenshot of our podcast with with curtis yarvin jim stewartson
00:06:26.140 anti-fascist he has to let us know skeets curtis yarvin and his pals simone and malcolm are all
00:06:32.120 peter teal pro natalists who believe their dna is so amazing that they have a responsibility to share
00:06:37.680 their magnificence with the world before we go extinct they apparently own no mirrors
00:06:43.420 oh no mirrors yeah there's this really common thing amongst progressives who apparently aren't
00:06:51.340 eugenicists that like where they love to imply that we really shouldn't be into it we shouldn't
00:06:56.900 be reproducing because we're ugly what they're literally like no i know i know it's wonderful i
00:07:04.100 mean one one they imply that we think that we're genetically better which we don't and we wouldn't
00:07:08.400 be using things like genetic testing if we thought we were superior somehow and two they're like but
00:07:13.840 ugly people shouldn't reproduce right yeah like obviously ugly people shouldn't reproduce like what 1.00
00:07:18.920 are you guys doing and it's like whatever like we'll replace you whatever i'm fine with that i'm fine 0.98
00:07:23.800 with that we'll replace you you won't exist anymore don't worry about it yeah like we we don't mind
00:07:28.420 like this isn't like a an actual fight with us because we know that they're self-extinguishing
00:07:33.380 right you know so yeah it's very it's not stressful at all but i i i you know that they're they're
00:07:40.080 yelling around in their safe space and i'll put the safe space song here people that support me
00:07:45.720 mixed in with more people that support me and stay nicely you cannot stop me from getting inside
00:07:52.980 i am cold and i am hard and my name is reality oh no not reality somebody stop him but i want to
00:08:02.460 before i get into the numbers because i actually think the numbers are less are interesting than
00:08:06.480 the philosophical argument here which is to look at all of the positives of blue sky existing of
00:08:11.700 trapping the progressives in their crystal yeah and that is what blue sky is it's it is the crystal
00:08:17.820 the crystal happened oh my gosh that is mind-blowing it literally happened we trapped them in a crystal
00:08:23.580 of their own we did it guys we did it crystal achieved elon elon did it by the way come on give
00:08:30.100 give give credit yes i'm sorry we really of course but anyway i want to because the positives okay
00:08:37.760 cancellations can't really happen anymore their their toxic culture cannot leak into the public
00:08:44.660 discourse as much anymore it really doesn't yeah it really doesn't like you just don't see or hear
00:08:49.920 about it as much outside of the mainstream news organizations which have become more radicalized
00:08:54.560 like drudge report guardian and stuff like that since the trump election and win if you're like oh no
00:09:00.660 they can't be that crazy here's a recent excerpt from a guardian article about us because these people
00:09:07.460 are styling themselves after the super villains of a saturday morning cartoon they are of course now
00:09:13.000 deeply influential in the trump administration it is not interest in making pregnancy safer or in
00:09:19.000 making child rearing less damaging to women's careers it is not interest in these because all 1.00
00:09:24.000 of these pursuits are in fact antithetical to the movement's real agenda which is to encourage
00:09:28.420 primarily white births to enforce regressive highly hierarchical and stratified social roles
00:09:33.540 to push women out of the public sphere and to narrow women's prospects for social professional 0.99
00:09:38.600 and intellectual life to little more than pregnancy childbirth child rearing and housekeeping or as
00:09:45.400 that collins might put it kinder kush kish that basically she's trying to argue that we're nazis
00:09:51.800 although i don't think we've ever said those words and and that's why i feel like this may not
00:09:56.060 have the the the final point and sargon of akad was making this point which is people have forgotten
00:10:01.920 how crazy the far left is and how and how hateful topics they are and i think that he is right about
00:10:11.440 that to an extent like they're not on twitter where a lot of people are but they still are in the
00:10:16.380 newspapers like the drudge report is still like psychotically toxic that's true the the guardian is
00:10:23.380 still psychotically toxic but i think the problem is that nobody reads that stuff because a lot of these
00:10:27.820 organizations like i think the guardian even completely withdrew from from twitter and went
00:10:31.880 to blue sky which basically means they've got no reach anymore with their accounts which is like
00:10:37.260 okay like i get that you were being dogpiled now that you didn't have like a control of the platform
00:10:45.520 when you posted things that were untrue which they do a lot like of all of the the most tabloidic
00:10:52.560 writers on us the guardian is by far like i think the like we get like actual quote-unquote tabloids
00:10:59.280 writing about us like the new york post and stuff like this never do they make as many factual errors
00:11:03.740 as the guardian that is whoa that's true how can that be true that should not be true a few days ago
00:11:10.960 guardian was where snowden's leaks were published that was like gumshoe journalism that was the good
00:11:17.960 stuff yeah yesterday it was yesterday what was it well to recording of this it doesn't matter to
00:11:23.200 you guys but anyway yes recently on us and they said that simone was worried about them coming and
00:11:31.460 taking her room one day implying that them like progressives or like some sort of scary i have
00:11:36.660 some conspiracy about some unknown faceless yeah she's like they will take my womb one day and like 1.00
00:11:42.100 quote scare quotes and and the the actual full quote is you know i have to get a c-section every time i
00:11:47.680 have a kid you know the maximum number of kids anyone ever had is 11 eventually surgeons will
00:11:52.440 take my uterus in a botched surgery not not like but like they're like deliberately twisting reality
00:11:58.700 to attempt to manipulate people well just to make me look unhinged actually you know this is a topic i
00:12:05.520 wanted to talk about that i don't think deserves a full episode so i'll drop it here which is my theory
00:12:11.520 called the directionality of what would i call it oh reputation reputational directionality yeah
00:12:19.720 reputational directionality which is to say that within the online environment all reputations have
00:12:27.360 a directionality attached to them and if you start universally loved that directionality is negative and
00:12:35.260 you will eventually because the only articles worth writing are you are on ones where you hate on the
00:12:39.800 person become universally hated if you start universally hated you become universally loved
00:12:45.320 or not universally loved but most of the stuff coming out on you is you know and that's why
00:12:49.680 early on in sort of our public fame i leaned so much harder even than i do today into the stuff that
00:12:55.800 that drew negative controversy because i wanted to have this universally negative picture of me
00:13:01.820 among the lines of like the people who didn't actually engage with our ideas or anything like that
00:13:05.260 so that it could be so if you want to like see examples of this great examples are you know
00:13:11.780 somebody like harry and megan right you know they start absolutely universally loved and then the only
00:13:17.140 things you can publish on them are the only thing you can think on them is like well subversive right and
00:13:21.400 so then they end up completely universally hated especially because they're trying to control their image so
00:13:25.220 much um or you start as somebody like what's an example here that started like universally sort of
00:13:33.720 cringy and then everybody started to like them i think i think chapel roan who i don't think you
00:13:40.280 would have heard of might fall in that category maybe well i i think the the guy martin screlly
00:13:45.740 definitely falls into that category kim kardashian way back in the day oh yeah oh the best example of 0.99
00:13:51.500 this is paris hilton yeah everybody hated paris hilton they thought she was trashy and garbage and all 0.56
00:13:57.180 the stuff about her was just trashing now she's like oh wow she's a smart business woman she 1.00
00:14:00.960 the south park is just about her being a slut and now everyone's like she seems pretty based like 1.00
00:14:08.260 she seems like a decent huge smart business woman and who is respectable and i would want to be her 1.00
00:14:13.560 friend and i think that that's a great example of this this trip and then some people have been
00:14:18.980 around long enough to go both ways or britney's trump trump has gone both ways for sure yeah trump
00:14:24.460 has been around long enough to go for you love hate it love hate it britney spears love hate it love 0.79
00:14:28.660 right yeah you know she starts love then everybody hates on her and oh how can you like britney and 1.00
00:14:33.800 then it's like oh this might be a little low for her right now this sort of point that she's in i think
00:14:39.980 we need to cheer for her again and so i i think that a lot of people don't consider this when they're
00:14:46.440 building their online fame and they try too hard to enter the scene loved instead of understanding that
00:14:53.580 entering the scene is where you want to be hated it's later that you want to be loved
00:14:58.540 but it makes sense given this contrarian environment like i think we're about at the breaking point we had
00:15:06.360 yesterday the team that that filmed the harry and megan actually documentary for netflix come over and
00:15:12.040 film a pilot or a sizzle reel for a documentary about us they're working on studios with and i think that
00:15:19.800 if we can get this made this could be the thing that breaks us over into the average love category
00:15:25.380 now of course the people on blue sky will still be screeching and screaming but you know they've been
00:15:30.400 trapped well and you can still go from hated to love to hate it as is demonstrated by some of the
00:15:35.360 examples we gave no if we go it's just the problem is we've always been so reasonable in all of our
00:15:42.560 takes right like the trans is similar to lobotomies i mean i think that that's just something that 0.97
00:15:48.020 anyone who's engaging with the evidence is like yeah it seems about right it's a commonly used
00:15:54.820 procedure especially among like democratic power players like the kennedy family that later we learn
00:16:01.320 was just not a good way to deal with body dysmorphia in the same way you know somebody had body dysmorphia
00:16:07.760 like they were anorexic which is another culture-bound illness which is also disproportionately appears in
00:16:13.100 young women with autism just pointing out that that you wouldn't remove their uterus to lower their
00:16:19.060 weight just because they liked it happening you'd be like that's really toxic don't do that but they
00:16:24.100 they do it so anyway you you've got or the study just for people who are new to this podcast that showed
00:16:30.920 that of people who are of the age of i think it was 14 who are uncomfortable with their body by the age
00:16:38.140 they're 23 more than 9 out of 10 of them completely identify as their birth gender if they're not given
00:16:43.740 access to puberty blockers yeah because all puberty sucks you you can't cure that dirt yeah so but i 0.76
00:16:52.160 wanted to talk so i had labeled all the negative things right you know the negative things are the 0.87
00:16:56.600 crystal the the the the you know why it's good right oh why it's good okay what why i can't
00:17:06.280 add or negative yeah the the positives yeah and then that the negatives are that it provides an
00:17:12.560 environment where far left ideas can like fester and become even more extreme and normalized so when
00:17:18.600 you isolate people with extreme beliefs like this they can begin to believe these beliefs are normative
00:17:24.060 and okay to hold within like an open world environment the question was that i think twitter was already
00:17:29.380 doing that to an extent yeah i think people were already so siloed what we saw with progressives
00:17:35.540 more than with conservatives on x twitter is they would block and mute anyone who didn't hold values
00:17:43.800 and views that they well they'd even build like block lists that they'd share with everyone else right
00:17:49.040 so it was very easy for people to silence any voice that they found offensive or uncomfort uncomfortable
00:17:56.100 so i yeah i don't even like they kind of had their own little version of blue sky before they created
00:18:02.300 blue sky oh it's just that other people still had to listen to them yes so they had more of a platform
00:18:10.780 before but they still didn't see other people's views that's fascinating
00:18:17.680 yeah okay i buy that and they also had more of a platform because before x was acquired
00:18:24.300 you know that more conservatives were censored yeah conservatives were just censored on the
00:18:29.240 platform it's wild for me to think and this is something that like actually worried me for a bit
00:18:33.160 when i heard that lotus eaters was demonetized on youtube even still and i was like what why is
00:18:38.760 lotus eaters lotus eaters is so tame compared to us yeah um and then i went it was like oh well that
00:18:45.020 happened in 2023 and i was like oh that makes sense back when they had more cultural power than they
00:18:49.940 have today but and it was and it was censored because of sargon of akad who is on lotus eaters
00:18:57.640 other channel instead of his actual work on lotus eaters and i was like well that seems really unfair
00:19:03.640 for censoring them based on another channel but okay so on the net what's your take is blue sky
00:19:10.780 good for the right or bad for the right i think it's bad for the right because i think the right still
00:19:16.160 needs to have its views regularly challenged and i think that they need to understand what people with
00:19:24.180 opposing views think and they're just not being exposed to that enough on x as it stands there's
00:19:31.120 not enough pushback and and whether or not you'll ever have your your mind change or your views moderated
00:19:36.900 by people who oppose you people you might even really hate they still help you clarify your own views and
00:19:44.280 values they still strengthen so i'm gonna push back on that take really yeah i don't think i think
00:19:51.560 that the people who engaged in like serious argument stayed on x and twitter no people who left were the
00:19:58.300 ones who screeched no people who like to debate things online left and went to blue sky keep in mind
00:20:08.300 blue sky is only one percent of the daily users of twitter and we'll see when we go to the statistics
00:20:12.200 people on blue sky actually interact with the platform a lot less than people on twitter per
00:20:15.780 session oh really that's interesting that happens as much yeah that is interesting i i still think
00:20:22.760 it's better to have more antagonistic people together on in one place okay so was our account really
00:20:29.940 active before the blue sky exodus yeah it was do you feel like we had more argument back then
00:20:36.940 yeah we had tons more engagement back then we have like no engagement now
00:20:40.420 most i think most of the interaction with our content was with people who have now gone
00:20:48.560 to blue sky so we were just totally shock jocks i guess yeah well we were almost entirely hate watched
00:20:56.620 which is not the same as our youtube channel it might be the same but like they don't
00:21:02.520 upvote videos because i have like average upvote rating is like 98 yeah i don't think that's the
00:21:06.400 case i don't think we're hate watched that much here because one you actually have to invest time
00:21:09.960 to hate watch here and on x you really you don't even have to read someone's posts to say something
00:21:16.020 snarky and mean to them it's just like you slap your children you know like you don't have to
00:21:20.500 i could have just posted something about you know changing statistics and some population in china but
00:21:28.020 that doesn't matter so yeah i just yeah you have to invest more we don't have hate watchers here
00:21:34.180 they would show up in the comments do you know what i realized i haven't checked facebook in like six
00:21:38.160 months like i used to be pretty facebook addicted it was one of those things i checked every morning
00:21:43.360 yeah it still has a really active platform for what it is and i don't know if that's because a lot
00:21:49.760 of people just still use facebook messenger and facebook is referring to them as daily active users
00:21:53.760 but facebook has a striking number of daily active users and i can only assume it's because
00:21:59.080 they're messing with the number somehow because it doesn't seem plausible to me so for example
00:22:04.380 facebook has 1.03 billion daily active users compare that with only 122 million on youtube
00:22:12.440 or 500 million on instagram facebook has been caught faking their numbers before by the way yeah i think
00:22:19.220 they might be combining all of their platforms but i don't think that's true because for example
00:22:23.220 whatsapp has 2.9 billion so almost three times as much as they're lying across all the platforms
00:22:30.120 they own like that's not surprising maybe maybe but you know the the the incident i'm talking about
00:22:35.560 here when facebook started facebook video they basically lied to people about how many people
00:22:39.380 were using it and so a bunch of people went and invested a lot of their careers in trying to build
00:22:43.000 facebook video platforms and then it turned out that facebook video was mostly a scam and nobody was
00:22:47.660 really using it and so it screwed up a bunch of people's like content creation careers
00:22:52.260 did they provably lie yeah if i remember correctly yeah they well because it had to do it's eventually
00:22:59.280 like the the ad revenue just wasn't coming in right like they they said oh we have this many people and
00:23:04.160 everybody we're not that many people that's awful so i put up a blue sky gross chart here you can see
00:23:10.820 that they did have a bump between november and december and and and they have grown like in the early
00:23:17.080 days significantly but if you look at like the february versus march numbers you're looking at 31.5 to
00:23:23.100 33 million which is decent gross but it is teetering off from that initial bump no it is seeing what is
00:23:31.360 considered to be a classic cat sort of casting or like our slowing down of growth after the initial hype
00:23:37.400 cycle however i don't consider that the same oh we shouldn't worry about that statistic as people would with
00:23:44.520 other platforms because i think all the initial growth was really just leeched off of twitter this
00:23:51.480 wasn't organic growth this was just all the progressive people at once deciding to leave x
00:23:55.700 and that wasn't in my view earned in the same way that x and facebook and whatsapp earned and snapchat
00:24:04.820 earned their audiences and tiktok yeah even the heads of blue sky have said that this isn't real organic
00:24:09.960 gross and it's not going to continue and we need to find a way to get people just copied x and we're
00:24:15.000 like we're x for for progressives that doesn't no you don't get credit for doing that at all here's
00:24:23.980 something you might find interesting is blue sky users by age so i'm gonna guess the majority is
00:24:29.640 between 25 and 40 no what okay who by far the largest category is 18 to 24 year olds the youngest age
00:24:38.680 group possible and then the next largest is 25 to 34 year olds the next youngest if you go 35 to 44
00:24:46.760 you're looking at only about 15 so it's a younger platform but not maybe a very young platform well
00:24:54.920 tiktok's younger i think as much of a third of tiktokers are 14 years old or younger it's a very
00:25:00.440 like here's what's going to shock you blue sky is not just overwhelmingly male but more male than x
00:25:09.240 i is more male than how yeah so blue sky is 62.04 percent male x is 60.9 so it basically 60 versus 62
00:25:22.920 x to blue sky in fact blue sky is one of the most male platforms there are if you order platforms by
00:25:29.960 how male they are it goes discord 66 okay reddit 63 blue sky 62 x 60 telegram 57 facebook 56
00:25:43.160 quora 56 what about twitch come on in 56 hold on it's it's more male than youtube which is 54
00:25:51.720 it it yeah twitch is 63 men so twitch is also at the top so come on youtube yeah yeah twitch
00:26:00.600 has anyone used twitch twitch it's like weird like lefty cuck mint like there's like this weird category
00:26:05.880 of like male that like i don't know i feel like a lot of the streamers that are on youtube have
00:26:10.200 like they do the recording on twitch and then they publish later on youtube and it's just kind of a
00:26:16.680 two-for-one and so they're they're very active on there and they have active audiences that just want
00:26:20.840 someone to keep them asma gold does that i think and i think and i think a lot of youtubers do that as
00:26:25.880 well does that mm-hmm leaflet actually is a separate team publisher if you watch our episode with her
00:26:31.240 we're big fans she's awesome yeah she's she just seems so endearing like i i watched some other
00:26:36.920 vtubers and we might do other co-op labs with vtubers but none of the the female vtubers are as
00:26:43.000 endearing as leaflet i was actually talking with simone about this i get the impression that these
00:26:48.120 other ones like have like only fans accounts or whatever and i was like yeah but leaflet definitely
00:26:52.760 doesn't she she doesn't give that vibe but hold on i gotta keep going with my interesting statistics
00:26:59.400 the us has the largest proportion of blue sky visitors 42.27
00:27:03.560 wow it's really surprised about that here's another one that surprised me on average each
00:27:10.360 blue sky user visits approximately eight pages per session contrast that with x it's 12 pages per session
00:27:19.000 it's interesting in fact x if you're looking at like per session is the top of the engagement list
00:27:26.280 so if you go by platform x is 12.26 facebook 11.74 instagram 11.52 youtube 10.91 then way down
00:27:36.360 is blue sky 7.91 only only lost to snapchat to talk and reddit
00:27:44.360 by the way i was surprised that reddit it was more male than than blue sky or x
00:27:49.320 no i'm not i'm not there's a lot of women on both yeah you want to go over top accounts on blue sky
00:27:59.800 yeah i'm curious yeah who's big on blue sky okay blue sky is big on blue sky it doesn't really matter
00:28:05.720 then the the largest real account on blue sky with 1.98 million followers is aoc
00:28:12.840 okay setting the tone here under that is cut elon which is mark cuban what yeah he's like a lefty
00:28:25.320 version of elon which is interesting because he used to position himself as like a righty politician
00:28:29.640 right yeah i could actually see him running for president in the next cycle he could do well he's
00:28:35.400 like uncucked enough power to do well if he's like a new right person pretending to be a lefty 0.83
00:28:41.320 absolutely yeah i'm okay with that next george takai okay okay yeah next is mark hamill
00:28:52.120 what the guy who played luke skywalker i know but why what does he have to say why does anyone care
00:28:57.960 what mark hamill has he must i really don't know he's like famous in like a deranged lefty and maybe
00:29:04.520 that so he's just fun unhinged unhinged hot takes yeah next is the onion i didn't know they were
00:29:11.080 still around okay all right i i love it that like babylon b has genuinely replaced the onion in the
00:29:17.160 eyes of the public like they're bigger than the onion now right like i the onion doesn't do anything
00:29:22.200 anymore like the onion used to be so funny and like everyone would do stuff with it and now it's all
00:29:25.960 babylon b which is like the right leaning version and we actually reach out to the guy who who who who
00:29:31.240 runs it a cool organization they're they're a mormon organization right like that's where the
00:29:36.840 b right yeah i think so yeah the babylon b adam ford is the founder is adam ford mormon no doesn't
00:29:45.400 seem like it he's a he he's an ordained anglican priest anglican anglican yeah who knew anglicans do
00:29:54.200 anything here's one we've got one anglican just be a catholic okay like i'm not even that pro cat
00:30:03.560 but but anglican come on tried really hard it was there was a whole thing you know this is this is
00:30:09.880 like when when even gobert said that being an agnostic is is just being an atheist for people 0.98
00:30:16.680 without balls being an anglican is just being a catholic for people without balls sorry i don't mean 0.88
00:30:23.880 this i don't mean to insult our anglican but i'm just like the actual history of the anglican movement 0.96
00:30:29.160 like it's it's it's it's meant to be like catholic right like it's just a recreation of
00:30:35.000 catholicism was with a centralized church but just with a separate centralized i mean i'm sorry i don't
00:30:40.040 mean to be too after the onion i love that this is after the onion sorry we're so insulting to even
00:30:47.320 like conservative christians i hope we don't lose all our anglican followers over this we're insulting to
00:30:52.440 ourselves enough too one hopes under the onion is the new york times i loves it among progressives
00:30:59.320 you got the onion and then you got the new york times come on yeah next is stephen king okay
00:31:06.840 yeah he's very next is midas touch i don't know what midas touch is the next is rachel maddow okay and
00:31:15.080 then next is npr i love rachel maddow beats npr oh npr is so sad to me they're just like you know
00:31:22.280 when you've got on npr they've been so low energy so like we went to this like npr like in-person
00:31:27.640 filming thing do you remember when we went to that was like those people who took us and we were like
00:31:31.320 out on a field by philadelphia it's like oh no no yeah we no no we watched an in-person we were in
00:31:36.120 the audience of wait wait don't tell me which is yeah it's not exactly npr it's it's i think chicago
00:31:41.640 public radio but yeah it was it's one of their very long-running game shows what an interesting
00:31:47.000 audience it was such a thing it was so for progressive audience it was so weirdly like
00:31:53.000 and also wait wait don't tell me such a jewish show and so it's just so odd now that we live in 0.86
00:31:58.760 this age where there's so much anti-semitism on the progressive side progressive side and yet
00:32:05.400 you have this super super jewish show so yeah i don't know what to make of it yeah i mean you know
00:32:11.400 the the progressive jews aren't having kids not in not in large numbers they're you know two 0.66
00:32:16.840 generations from extinction yeah well what you gonna do oh no anyway so your your thesis is still it's a
00:32:27.640 net bad because we're not engaging with the outsider perspective as much yeah i don't like seeing
00:32:33.800 siloed siloed siloed networks like this unless it's a dating network and they're just trying to
00:32:41.080 find people value aligned to do stuff together but they're not doing stuff together that's not the
00:32:45.160 impression i get from blue sky so i don't see that as being valuable or helpful if this is a place for
00:32:52.120 online discourse it should be a place that is as ideologically diverse as possible and that's why i also
00:32:57.880 like x a little bit less now than i did before because there's less there's less ideological
00:33:03.960 diversity but it's i i think that it's improved i mean grok is amazing i like the algorithm more now i
00:33:10.440 think that it's more interesting so when i go on it now and i go to whatever feed i go to whether it's
00:33:16.600 so grok is like a high tier now like what like it makes sense that you know it was trained on xdata and
00:33:23.800 i appreciate that they they they did the acquisition and freaked out all the progressives that grok grok
00:33:29.720 if you don't know now owns twitter and everybody who invested in the twitter acquisition came out on
00:33:35.800 top because of that it's a win yeah but yeah not being trapped in the crystal i'm hearing good things
00:33:45.640 about gemini ai by the way apparently some people are saying yeah people are ranting and raving about
00:33:49.640 it now i haven't tried it i like still haven't like reused it so i should probably
00:33:53.560 i'm still traumatized from it not handling basic math but i know we've gone very far and it being
00:33:59.000 super racist when they first launched it oh yeah no that was fun i would i would go to to see that
00:34:04.760 you know to see all the black nazis yes create a crowd of nazis and they're all black and it's like 0.97
00:34:13.240 what why why did you think this was a good idea it's great it's perfect yeah you go for that it's the 0.61
00:34:21.320 math that threw me off but and now google's like removing pride months and everything from its
00:34:26.200 calendar which oh they are no yes well it doesn't have any of the nonsense holidays in its calendar
00:34:32.520 anymore only like mainstream religious holidays now which makes sense anyway i love you to decimum
00:34:40.200 what do you think about the most blue sky members being male thing like more than twitter
00:34:44.840 i really don't know what to make of that maybe it's that the most angry people on twitter who were
00:34:53.960 very active were male maybe yeah because they they thought they were signaling and maybe getting
00:35:00.520 something out of it and yeah i can see that but i i really don't know what to make of it to be honest
00:35:07.720 with you gender skewing of platforms is so odd and what the weirdest thing that i heard of which we we 0.94
00:35:13.960 got from the documentary team yesterday is that pinterest is now seeing this huge surge like it's
00:35:20.520 making a comeback but amongst you but like prepubescent male users who are using it to make like 0.75
00:35:28.760 stranger things and it meme boards like the clown it the scary freaking clown i love that young males are 0.56
00:35:37.720 still into horror i love that young males are somehow on pinterest like i i don't know how
00:35:43.480 their staff is dealing with this like i don't know if they know what to do with this after years and
00:35:49.160 years of wedding boards and hairstyle boards and dream bathroom remodel boards suddenly it's like
00:35:56.520 it memes and they're like how i i mean how do they monetize it right this is very interesting but
00:36:03.080 yeah the the 11 year old son of one of the producers who was here at our house yesterday
00:36:11.320 apparently just that's where he spends his time not on minecraft not on tick tock on freaking pinterest
00:36:18.440 nothing makes sense about young people well i i will say when i was a young male you might not know
00:36:24.120 this so my family my mom wasn't around much during a certain time when i was like like like young
00:36:29.560 like in that pre-teen age but we lived near a blockbuster and i was allowed to go and rent
00:36:34.680 movies whenever i wanted and the core section that i rented movies from was horror like that was the
00:36:41.400 main thing that i watched um i just loved horror movies during that period especially they're good i was
00:36:50.120 just remembering one that i that i loved as a kid deep star six for anyone who who liked that movie
00:36:56.440 but you know i i not the best the best horror movie i've seen that i recommend if you like
00:37:03.800 oh i you know horror ginger snaps two is the best horror movie ever made not one ignore one it's not
00:37:11.880 very good if you're not gonna watch two watch three they're all standalone stories so don't worry about
00:37:16.280 it but yeah no horror needs like good characters and plot and like it makes sense and everything like
00:37:21.720 that yeah i'm all about uh like genuine oh you want it for the part do you no well no do cheesy
00:37:28.920 good horror okay and i love that you know if they're if they're like it it is not good by the
00:37:34.360 way it is not good horror i don't care if it's good or bad if there's clowns i'm out
00:37:41.880 what was it what was the other thing that they were made it was it was it or stranger things which
00:37:46.520 stranger things is good horror stranger things is one of the best modern properties made
00:37:51.240 in the past 10 years or something like that it's great yeah absolutely wholesome fun for the whole
00:37:56.360 family yeah anyway love you to death simone i love you too gorgeous a spectacular day and all of you
00:38:03.960 out there have a spectacular day i really hope things go well for you and i really hope that you're you
00:38:09.240 achieve your dreams yeah for real actually we want i want to see human flourishing so do your do your
00:38:15.720 jobs people get it done yeah get out there and flourish you nerds dinners for closers i love you
00:38:23.560 love you too
00:38:27.320 oh gosh i can you going to squitter
00:38:30.840 sorry mama i wanted to tell you you all gallivin with your fancy the right friends it's twitter while i'm
00:38:37.560 sitting here all day with nobody to keep me company except blue sky the chickens are coming home to
00:38:45.720 roost bobby boucher you reap the fruit of your selfish ways you're gonna lose all your fancy elections and 0.99
00:38:52.680 you're gonna fail your big exam because squitter is a nazi everything is a nazi to you mama 0.98
00:39:00.360 well i like twitter and i like the right and i'm gonna keep doing a book because they make me feel good 0.99
00:39:09.400 and by the way mama women don't have penises 1.00
00:39:18.840 and i like trump trump that's my back 0.99