00:08:04.680This is Eric Stryker of WarStrike, formerly of DeRiceUp.Biz.
00:08:10.320It says, all my life, critics like Pat Buchanan and Sam Francis have told me that American power is in the hands of left-wingers or cultural Marxists or liberal Deweyite do-gooders who marched through the institutions, universities, government, media, and NGOs.
00:08:26.040And yet, the second this class of people slightly disagrees with Jews on ethics of mass murdering tens of thousands of children in Gaza for their race or religion,0.86
00:08:35.140Jews liquidate this whole class, defunding and purging every last consistent leftist or bleeding-heart liberal from universities and popular culture,0.92
00:08:43.520and sending the FBI to crush the activists.0.98
00:08:45.140So the whole time, we've been chasing after a red herring.
00:08:47.980Power in America is not in the hands of the left.0.96
00:08:50.400It's in the hands of Zionist Jews who transcended left and right to bring maximum terrorism towards outgroups, especially whites.0.99
00:08:59.280And, you know, you read that and that sounds like there's some truth, especially based on the defunding of Harvard that's been going on.0.98
00:09:05.640It seems that there's crackdowns on universities over Palestinian protests.
00:09:11.400Hey, Michael, President Trump has frozen or cut more than $2.7 billion in federal research grant money to Harvard University,
00:09:18.500accusing Harvard of fostering an unsafe anti-American and anti-Semitic college environment.
00:09:26.020This morning, the president says that money could soon be redirected.
00:09:29.740Quote, I am considering taking $3 billion of grant money away from a very anti-Semitic Harvard
00:09:36.240and giving it to trade schools all across our land.
00:09:39.980What a great investment that would be for the USA and so badly needed.
00:09:43.860The Trump administration blocked Harvard from enrolling new or existing foreign students
00:09:49.060until it fully complies and turns over information about its foreign students
00:09:54.440who encompass 27% of Harvard's student body.
00:09:58.440But I mean, that isn't what he said, though.
00:10:00.740I mean, he said they've completely defunded and broken down the entire left nationally.
00:10:07.320No, the Harvard and why Harvard specifically?
00:10:10.180because harvard specifically had anti-israel protests that's it why don't they defund
00:10:15.820literally every other college in the country which is dominated by left-wing bullshit they
00:10:21.880haven't they're not even and they're not going to yeah and to me i just look at that and i think
00:10:26.820about it say i mean can't you just be jewish and left-wing too which is actually the argument that
00:10:31.880most left-wingers happen to be jewish um and that's the that cultural critique yeah so it's
00:10:38.560like they're not leftist they're jewish i'm like well they used to be an agreement that those were0.73
00:10:43.140part and parcel the same thing the leftism the specific brand of leftism is a weapon that they
00:10:49.320have used in their march through the institution so you can't really separate them from it yeah
00:10:56.340and i'm trying to think you know i'm trying to get pat buchanan ever said anything that was
00:11:02.140anti-Zinus. I'm pretty sure he did, but now I'm looking at the Washington Post, which will not
00:11:08.360let me look at any single page, unless I'm a subscriber, which says, Pat Buchanan, the Jewish
00:11:14.620question, and then Pat Buchanan, a feature here on the ADL. Well, I mean, he's got countless quotes
00:11:21.960here against the Israel lobby. So, you know what I mean? It seemed that Pat Buchanan, it seems like
00:11:27.440a lot of these individuals seem to be aware of the jewish question in politics yeah like i don't
00:11:33.440think that was actually a huge blind spot for a lot of these people and that sounds like it's
00:11:38.500semantics but um i mean there's some truth to it there's some truth that like what did it take
00:11:44.960to get the punishment to rain down upon harvard well it was that is this a big gotcha though
00:11:51.160because that's the way he's presenting it's like see i was i told you all along that is
00:11:54.820The minute you criticize Israel, they'll turn on you.
00:40:36.800And she had said that, you know, she's okay with it because we've had some people in our community, some of our listeners, many of whom are parents themselves, and many of them would like to be parents.
00:40:48.540They speak to us and they want to know what it's like.
00:40:52.640And this was one dimension I thought was always lacking.
00:40:55.700I went through this and as I was going through it, I realized I've never heard of any of this before.
00:41:00.340you know i mean this this apparently normal thing no one ever discusses especially amongst women
00:41:07.960you know i mean and then you're just kind of left to drift even as your parents or your family act
00:41:13.920like it's this taboo thing to even talk about i was wondering did you did you experience the same
00:41:20.560thing it wasn't it wasn't that bad for us we had a lot of family around who were uh
00:41:26.940pretty pretty open to talk about it and uh my wife actually spent a bit of time she went
00:41:34.240went and stayed with her her aunt and her family there for a bit just to be in some you know be in
00:41:42.340a different place and be around some people who were older and this aunt in particular had a bunch
00:41:47.940of her own kids who were all young and they all hanging out so yeah it was it wasn't it was bad
00:41:53.600like it it fucking sucks man it's not it's not nice it's a death essentially it's it's like0.93
00:41:59.040it's a death in the family it's like a an edge case of a death in the family0.93
00:42:04.320absolutely and i think that's how i think the women the mothers really view it and if you're
00:42:10.320close to that you understand you can see what they're going through um but yeah so that that's
00:42:16.080just i don't know i don't know where i was going with that i just like to talk about because it's
00:42:20.160it's a part of our reality and we're well we're past the first trimester we had the two successful
00:42:25.520ultrasounds so barring any unforeseen thing maybe i'm gonna have to eat my hat in a few weeks but
00:42:32.320you know she's very very excited yeah i'm very excited we're gonna find out what the
00:42:37.200gender is soon um nice i'd be good either way liar why would now interesting0.58
00:42:46.960fucking sun machine over here well i've had one i i would like a girl i think that'd be nice oh yeah0.91
00:42:53.000i if if i i'm gonna say i don't care it might be nice if it was two boys that could be really fun0.66
00:42:59.500because he would have a brother within this similar age range like me and my sister are
00:43:04.620five years apart that's an odd amount of time for siblings to be separate yeah it's very difficult
00:43:10.680to connect like that but if you're just like one or two years apart now you're dynamic duo
00:43:15.940you're the gruesome twosome so having two boys that could my kids actually are they're a year
00:43:21.420and a half apart and they just in the past nine months or so became besties like they do everything
00:43:27.240together they like they they steal food for each other and they get books for each other they sleep
00:43:33.380in the same bed like i'll put them to bed and i'll go up and they'll be like goofing around and
00:43:36.860sleeping in the same bed i'm like okay so they're they're like the best of friends i don't know if
00:43:41.140this will last because i know a lot of people you know end up hating their siblings when they're
00:43:46.040older but it's it's cute so yeah that'd be cool i wonder how common that is you know i mean because
00:43:50.720there certainly are people who end up resenting their siblings but is is that the norm do you
00:43:57.840think because like everyone remembers when they're kids like i mean my my sisters my brothers are
00:44:02.600best friends and but does it always happen that they'd be yeah i don't know i don't know i don't
00:44:07.820have a lot of people who have close i don't have a lot of friends who have close siblings well
00:44:13.540because i'm not very close to my sister i know you're not very close with your brother i'm trying
00:44:17.300to think of a single person i know that's close with their siblings i can't think i can't think
00:44:22.060of one i can't think of a single one and i'm sure oh you know what that's my uh my stepbrothers
00:44:27.480are i have three stepbrothers and they're all really close they're they're best buds they play
00:44:31.920baseball together in the whole thing so i know if you were to ask them they'd say oh we love each
00:44:35.680we love our brothers we love our sisters like i get that and some maybe that's just
00:44:39.540the fine print on your existence like you got to say that but like i don't know when you see that
00:44:46.640at such a young age you're hoping that stays that way yeah yeah absolutely it would also be nice if
00:44:52.680she had a girl that she could buy nice dresses for you know i mean just to agree so she doesn't0.91
00:44:58.660get so deep into boy mode that she's trans i don't need a trans woman i'm on the other end of it0.97
00:45:05.540I had to learn to like do yarn and I leave for work with fucking the beads and and butterfly1.00
00:45:12.280stickers on the back of my jacket that I don't know are there so let me ask you this two daughters0.97
00:45:18.240you're outnumbered I'm in a I'm in a house of women we have nine hens and a female cat and0.97
00:45:26.200two daughters and my wife it's yeah it's like I got a whole hen house and the chickens in back0.99
00:45:31.760too by the way and i don't mind telling you but let me ask you this do you go all in with the tea
00:45:40.780parties and do you do or is this too early for that or like the the the makeup on you uh i draw
00:45:48.700the line there's a lot of stuff that i would do that too i want to know actually this is important
00:45:53.400there's a lot of stuff where i i i'm pretty clear with them there's boy stuff and there's girl stuff
00:45:58.300like things are gendered like when you're going to do some of this stuff i'll play along because
00:46:02.280i love you and i love playing with you but there's certain things that boys don't do there's such a
00:46:06.960thing as a boy thing and a girl thing and i think i wonder how intentionally subversive
00:46:12.500it was although i think either way it's even if it's unintentional it's subversive this whole
00:46:17.580concept of like oh dads of daughters they get to do the lipstick in the tea party and the dress up
00:46:23.080No, that's that's called being gay and refusing to provide a positive male role model for your daughter.0.96
00:46:31.400Your daughter is going to be a fucking whore if you do that.0.95
00:46:34.800So, you know, I'm just a cinephile.0.72
00:46:38.400So sometimes I just can only make metaphors through cinema.
00:46:43.380But then I always think, like, John Wayne do that.
00:46:47.040If he had a daughter, would he do that?
00:48:24.780Every CEO you ever saw in life has had one of these dads.
00:48:28.980But really though, like girls, my understanding of it, and I don't think this is just girls, this is everybody, but when you're a child, you learn a lot about behaviors of men and women in relationships, in marriage, and you map that onto people that you meet, onto people that you court when you're older.
00:48:45.540So when you're young, if you have a brow beaten, effeminate dad who lets you put lipstick on him, what kind of what kind of relationships is your daughter going to have as an adult?
00:48:57.560If that like you, you've you have fucking burned that into the back of her brain as a toddler.
01:04:34.160But then they're also trying to redirect
01:04:36.200a lot of the jewish energy to qatar that's what i've noticed saying which is ridiculous which0.90
01:04:41.820is funny it's like oh you think the jews control the media guess what the qataris have invested0.67
01:04:46.100500 million i'm gonna call it it's good cutter also we're gonna call it cutter and they're the0.65
01:04:50.360qataris the qataris years now qatar has often been described as the wealthiest country in the world
01:04:56.560with the highest gdp per capita of all the world's nations for multiple years in a row
01:05:01.240The Qatari economy was larger than Ukraine's even before the Russian invasion, and with nearly 16 times fewer people, even when including all the foreign labor.
01:05:10.620The state of Qatar wields the ninth largest sovereign wealth fund in the world, with assets exceeding $450 billion, including a large 10.5% stake in the Volkswagen Group and the outright ownership of the Paris Saint-Germain Football Club, the seventh most valuable football club in the entire world.
01:05:27.320This is all in addition to a diversified real estate portfolio that makes the state of Qatar
01:05:31.560the largest single property owner in London.0.76
01:05:34.860And they're saying, that's something I've seen from a lot of Jews in the past,0.81
01:05:38.600where it's like all the stuff you think is true about us.1.00
01:11:21.060I'm like, no, if you're a listener of this show, you'll know that when I say we ended up getting into Soviet monetary theory and Julian James and then break down the bicameral mind, you know, oh, it's one of those.
01:11:33.860So if you give this a chance, you'll have a lot more fun listening than I think you're probably expecting from what sounded perhaps like a bit of a stuffy thing.
01:11:43.400But whenever Chris Sandbatch is there, it's always an enjoyable time.
01:11:48.140I think the quote of the night that a lot of my friends were discussing was he just converted to Catholicism.
01:15:58.000Not the instigator, per se, but the main benefactor and one of the leading forces behind it.0.76
01:16:04.640And I mentioned this on the live stream.
01:16:06.380We talked very, very briefly about this book in service of another point I was making.
01:16:10.200But it's Building a Ruin, The Cold War Politics of Soviet Economic Reform by Yakov Fagan.
01:16:18.880And this is recommended to me by a good friend of the show, Sean Weiland.
01:16:25.800I get quite a few economics suggestions from him, books to read, him and others.
01:16:31.980But he was going through a whole spell of Soviet economic theory and Cold War economics.
01:16:38.780And this was always a big gap for me because we know about Stalin.
01:16:43.940We know about the espionage of the Cold War.
01:16:46.700But I didn't know too much about Soviet economics.
01:16:49.720Because what you're told oftentimes by communists or Marxists is that communism and Soviet project, but communism largely failed because it was never given a shot or America stood in its way or didn't allow to compete on the world stage.
01:17:07.160If you don't know anything about it, you'd be liable to agree with that, right?
01:20:26.900And so usually that's the progressive side or the reform side versus the conservative side.
01:20:32.400And whatever the civilization is, you have those two components.
01:20:34.480And you saw the same thing in the Soviet Union.0.94
01:20:36.480The entire time you had this reform side, this wing within the Soviet, not only the intelligentsia, but within the political apparatus, and then the conservative side were really the true diehards.
01:20:48.540but they're always in conflict and they're saying like no we need to tweak or rejigger this system
01:20:54.500or we need to yeah because one thing he points out earlier in the book is that you weren't even
01:20:59.540really allowed to discuss economics like to even propose something different was very very difficult
01:21:07.260but they had really to me the main thesis of the book this is my takeaway and the book really ends
01:21:16.420on it and this was talking about the live stream that if you look at the american system i think
01:21:21.840we would all agree that america isn't a strictly capitalist country and hasn't been no since the
01:21:29.480not it not remotely yeah and libertarians say it all the time but i think everyone also understands
01:21:34.220that to be true um so there's of course capitalist elements there's private property enterprise but
01:21:41.080there's a significantly powerful welfare state there's there's no shortage of socialist sentiment
01:21:48.200within america and you can blame the new deal for that but you can also you can go back even further
01:21:53.800with that um so it's this chimera of other things and the point he was making was the soviet union
01:22:01.080was following the same trajectory and i really think what they were both intersecting at the
01:22:09.160same nexus which was technocracy i think that is what america is now and that's what the soviet
01:22:16.180union would have been and arguably that's what russia is now too which is different than
01:22:20.800socialism different than communism different than capitalism it's being led by technology
01:22:27.240which is different than capitalism because that wouldn't just have technology driving everything
01:22:33.340in fact technological development is demanding that everything catch up with it we almost have
01:22:40.620no control over it that's the problem and that most of the power rests in the hands of the
01:22:46.580technocrats which who are not in any way associated with the government they kind of are they're
01:22:53.860entwined but what you know what i notice is the relationship with elon musk for example
02:03:15.880this is actually what happened in japan and we discussed this with princes of the yen which is
02:03:20.380one of my favorite books that we covered but they you know in princes of the yen it's so fascinating
02:03:25.480because they had such a rapid industrialization after world war ii and there's many reasons why
02:03:32.520that was because they weren't actually being dominated by america they're kind of left to
02:03:36.080their own devices but there's that time in the 90s i would talk about where japan decided to shift
02:03:42.380they seemed like they almost had like a perfect dynastic fascist government in a sense or a
02:03:49.000corporatist government which many fascists like but then it just shifted to this consumer-based
02:03:55.220outward-facing international trade obsessed economy right and we as we read the book
02:04:03.520it was unclear why they did that and you're saying well it must have been some corrupting
02:04:09.180forces within the economy or maybe it's leftist subversion and i read this book and i just think
02:04:15.580they're hitting the middle income trap or they were understanding that you actually can't just
02:04:22.220industrialize like ride that industrial expansion growth to infinity you eventually hit a ceiling
02:04:30.240where you need and this is the unfortunate you need to actually be exporting more stuff you need
02:04:36.420you need the marketplace you can't just produce everything yourself if you want to keep that
02:04:40.820growth going you need to start exporting and importing and having some place to put the money
02:04:45.540and become this other economy which is what happened in japan and it's described by richard
02:04:51.440werner as maybe conspiratorial and i'm sure it is but it's conspiratorial in the same that these all
02:04:58.000are because the economy is really it's not driven just by trade it's driven by like banks and the
02:05:03.960government and oligarchies and you know i mean like it's the economy is driven by like the the
02:05:10.400consumer market is just one aspect of it anyway i need to keep going to get through this it says
02:05:16.600instead of high growth the low level of domestic consumption leads to over capacity in producer
02:05:21.600goods industries accompanied by slowing growth there's several ways for a country to get out of
02:05:26.920this situation one way is to find export markets for its goods thereby importing demand which the
02:05:32.880USSR largely lacked, which is, in my opinion, what Japan lacked as well, until it didn't.
02:05:38.980Another way is to try and innovate and increase the productivity in key sectors by decreasing
02:05:43.200overhead costs such as labor. One country can rebalance moving away from investment as a source
02:05:48.560of growth and towards a more consumer-based society. The economy that Stalin's successors0.85
02:05:54.120inherited was already showing strains from these imbalances and inefficiencies. And that's what was
02:05:59.880causing them to try and change the economy from within. And it continues on here, describing in
02:06:06.160more detail, says, as households found more and more cash in their hands, they had three options
02:06:10.380with what to do with it. First, they could spend it on goods. But since the supply of consumer goods
02:06:14.900did not respond to increases in consumer demand by the nature of the Soviet system, they rejected
02:06:20.720that entirely. Immediate spending was not always a viable option. Second, they could deposit the
02:06:26.200savings at the state savings bank or invest them in state bonds, thereby allowing some of the
02:06:31.500excess cash to re-enter the budget. However, exceedingly low real interest rates, distrust of
02:06:37.740authorities, and the fact that in a shortage economy, the appearance of goods on markets
02:06:42.900necessitated immediate access to physical cash meant that they were not particularly attractive
02:06:46.980choices either. Thus, Soviet households chose the third option, which is hoarding cash.0.51
02:06:53.060So it's not only there is no consumer market here, but it's also we don't trust the banks, we don't trust the system, and we might need this money.0.67
02:07:01.340So you actually kind of see that mirrored in our society now.
02:07:04.840We're trying to hold into every single thing we can because we don't trust any of this shit.
02:07:10.860If the USSR maintained an economic structure that emphasized the production of heavy goods at the expense of the consumer, any profitable action by the individual enterprise would be offset by the fact that the additional wages generated by the bonus system would not be complemented by an increase of goods in the market.
02:07:27.220Thus, any gain in productivity would result not in new profits, but in excess consumer demand.
02:07:34.080Without a major shift in distribution through equity transfers or price reforms,
02:07:37.920the Soviet Union was still stuck in a situation where the state was issuing more cash than there were available goods.
02:07:45.020These macroeconomic factors created bottlenecks in the labor market.
02:07:49.380And there's one report by the American State Department by a guy named Bundy.
02:07:53.360This is what I was talking about earlier.
02:07:54.380He says, the report brings up several possible interpretations.
02:07:58.340One can immediately deduce a connection between Bundy's anecdote and the growing salience of what he calls convergence theory, an increasingly popular theory in American social science in the 1960s,
02:08:09.980which postulated that the increased complexity of industrial societies will lead to the differences between socialism and capitalism becoming irrelevant as both societies became dominated by technocratic managerial elites.
02:08:23.720sound familiar. While this theory might have some merits on the US side, it's far more difficult to
02:08:28.220evaluate the Soviet side. Instead of competing, the two superpowers would coexist in their
02:08:33.480respective positions and increasingly reorganize themselves as subject to the same global trends.
02:08:40.300In this historiographic interpretation, detente is a fundamentally conservative problem that
02:08:45.220emerged as a backlash to the turbulence of the 60s. So I'm very friendly to the convergence
02:08:51.560theory and i think that's more or less what happened some people will blame that as sort
02:08:56.880of like an american liberal idea but i don't i don't think the development of technology
02:09:04.140necessarily rests rests on liberalism in this if we consider that even anti-liberal
02:09:10.900civilizations have had to do the same thing from a non-liberal perspective you see what i'm saying
02:09:18.340like it's almost it's a goal unto itself and you could be a liberal or an anti-liberal or
02:09:22.980you could probably be fucking islamic if you wanted to do you know i mean but
02:09:26.080it's like its own thing but that the scientific revolution itself becomes the dominant force in
02:09:34.140society outside of either of those ideologies um anyway we need to get going soon i think we've
02:09:41.260gone on long enough what do you think about that so uh hilarious man it's a riot
02:09:47.100yeah um oh just one last thing here so i just want to talk a bit about gorbachev in 1985
02:09:56.700gorbachev ascended to the position of general secretary in the april 1985 party plenum instead
02:10:02.940of declaring an agenda on the scientific technical revolution announced gorbachev's program of
02:10:08.060acceleration at its core the program aimed to channel substantial investment towards retooling
02:10:13.420enterprises in value-added sectors um both conservative and liberal commentators have
02:10:21.580criticized gorbachev for emphasizing a boost to investment in the machine tools industry rather
02:10:26.220than liberalizing prices and ownership rights and consumer goods facing industries and agriculture
02:10:35.820oh this one last part here sorry the growing interest in western management theory represented
02:10:41.900a shift in Soviet, quote, mathematical economics away from cybernetics and metaphor of the economy
02:10:48.380as an information processor. In the new variant, the economy itself became a subsystem of a larger
02:10:54.540social system and its productive institutions, black boxes that could self-organize based on
02:10:59.980a loose set of parameters. The implication, as Milner explained in a 1970 report, was that reforms
02:11:06.440in the machinery of planning, not investments in more powerful computational systems, were the key
02:30:25.260They're rumbled with the voluminous beards.1.00
02:30:28.300They're, we would now call them autists.0.95
02:30:31.240They really merely have male specialization.
02:30:33.860They can tell you everything about, you know, paleontology.
02:30:37.040You know, this bone fragment is 2 million years old, even of course, even though, of
02:30:42.260course, the earth is only 5,999 years old.
02:30:45.080They can tell you all about that, but they've never ironed a shirt, right?
02:30:49.700To, again, make a Simpsons reference, we're up to three.
02:30:51.880To paraphrase Mo, I always wanted to see Paris, but wearing a shirt that was iron,
02:30:56.120that'd be pretty sweet. So they can't even, they don't even have enough visual self-awareness to
02:31:00.660understand how well they present to the outside world. And you've experienced this, you've been
02:31:06.160in Toronto, you've been on the subway in Toronto. The way the biomass presents itself, it's quite
02:31:12.800shocking, isn't it? And there's been a massive, massive fall off in the general presentation of
02:31:19.480the biomass since the covid aids a couple of years ago people don't even try anymore right
02:31:25.620and and all these things are are of a piece i sound old i understand this when i complain
02:31:32.460about everyone wearing sweatpants now but it's become unignorable
02:31:36.900well okay uh i even get of course i get a bug
02:31:44.300up my backside about this but with uh dudes showing up um at church at you know at catholic
02:31:51.740mass i know it's the novus ordo but in literal t-shirt and jeans can you try a bit harder and
02:31:56.400you're bringing your girlfriend isn't she telling you how to dress right so these things are all
02:32:01.320of these this someone who doesn't have enough visual self um awareness to present well to the
02:32:06.200outside world obviously could not um tell you about this particular bit of graphic design even
02:32:12.560this famous bit of artwork right and certainly couldn't um uh realize that what they're writing
02:32:20.080needs to be edited by someone needs to be typeset by someone because of course i'm not suggesting
02:32:24.400that um all you adorable manx cat nazis um should have the kind of skills i have it's like that's
02:32:31.600that that ship has sailed i've come from the previous century but you have to have some
02:32:35.920understanding that you need to have editors and you need to have typesetters and you need to have
02:32:40.800designers and this brings us on to the next point which i've basically taken over your show now dimes
02:32:47.680well let me just if i can just add to that last point that's something that i've maintained for
02:32:51.120quite some time and i know there's a lot of people in amateur writing circles especially on our side
02:32:56.720that see the title editor as more of just a status you just have it because you started a place that
02:33:04.720publishes something could be something whatever yeah exactly but to me and i'm not saying i
02:33:09.520accomplish this 10 times out of 10 but i take editors very seriously and i remember when i was
02:33:14.240publishing my book of short fiction i i paid i commissioned a couple of editors actually
02:33:20.640um to look at it to rewrite it to give me notes and i had to have a sense for when you know the
02:33:26.560more brutal they are the better and because i worked i worked in many agencies and i did uh
02:33:32.400writing in various capacities and i work with people who are you're getting your work slashed
02:33:38.560apart every single day so you need a thick skin right you can't take anything personally and so
02:33:43.680after many many years i don't take any of it personally just tell me if it sucks i'll get you
02:33:47.600i'm at draft seven i don't give a let's make a draft 12. whatever well i say there's a lot of
02:33:55.360people who don't take that seriously well okay um i'm i'm i'm here to tell you that's that's
02:34:01.920the wrong way to characterize what actually happens. Again, deny your premises. You're not
02:34:07.760being torn apart. There's no ripped apart, whatever term you use. I've seen the short-term
02:34:13.200memories going already. There's no emotion attached to this. What you wrote here is factually wrong,
02:34:23.280that's why we've corrected it, or I'll cross this out and rewrite it for and give you a better way
02:34:28.840of expressing it this that this it's it's there's no emotional content involved in that i didn't
02:34:34.560want to make it seem like it was emotional but if this were a body that was coming back to me
02:34:38.500there would be cuts all over that's just why i meant to tear apart well yes deservedly so well
02:34:43.540not everyone needs an editor and um not many people produce clean copy i was one of the few
02:34:50.780who did back in the day. All right. And you're impinging on the 20th century catchphrase,
02:35:02.880my manuscript came back all bloody. He bloodied my manuscript, this kind of thing, which is
02:35:07.420exactly what you're saying. When you got your book manuscript back, which you had laser printed
02:35:16.100it on hp laserjet 2 and work perfect 5.1 which is the best setup that has ever been created to
02:35:21.600produce text uh it would have all sorts of red and green and blue marks on it this is lampoon
02:35:26.940in bright lights big city the chief verificationist complains that he uses the wrong color pencil
02:35:31.200and also let me just say one of the best notes you can get it's very very simple especially if
02:35:35.500it's in creative writing if the note says i'm bored like you're maybe halfway through the first
02:35:40.580page i'm bored what's going on why is this happening why is i'm i'm looking at this from
02:35:45.020someone who hasn't read this story 23 times like the author has. So I'm like, this, this needs to
02:35:51.260be shortened. This needs to be made more exciting. And sometimes that's really gutting it, but you
02:35:57.560know, those notes are very important. It's not just saying like, okay, we have to keep the skeleton
02:36:01.720of this and let's just change what clothes are on. It's like, no, break the bones if you need to,
02:36:07.220if it makes it better. I would, I would never tell, I would never jot something down on a
02:36:11.980manuscript along the lines of, I'm bored. That editor needs to be spoken to by a senior editor.
02:36:17.780That's demoralizing, and it's not your place as an editor, no matter who the hell you are,
02:36:26.600to act imperiously toward the writer. I will say again, everybody needs an editor,
02:36:33.500including highly competent writers. I've always had editors. I need editors, et cetera.
02:36:38.380no i i would um i would like someday put it put me in the same room with the editor who wrote i'm
02:36:46.460bored on your manuscript and i'd have a good good conversation with them that's uh seriously
02:36:51.240demoralizing and uh disempowering and is unnecessary i i'm going to send you an email
02:36:57.220from one editor and i paid for this i paid like a couple hundred dollars for just like a little
02:37:02.240before it was leading into maybe a bigger job it was just given assessment and it was just
02:37:08.240a one you know page email but everything was vitriolic everything he at one point said
02:37:14.900so have you even written before and i'm just like okay so like he was offended that and this is a
02:37:21.420guy who allegedly had worked you know 25 years in fantasy and science fiction publishing oh well
02:37:27.800there's your problem uh also of course i should be should tread lightly here because i don't
02:37:32.440actually edit fiction. I edit severe and complex nonfiction when I edit everything, like editing
02:37:39.620all the strings in a certain software application and the creator of the software is German. So
02:37:44.900imagine all the trouble I had on that. In any event, yes, that guy is simply a jerk and is
02:37:51.080probably burned out. If you have nearly a lifetime's experience of editing nothing but truly
02:38:02.240amateur copy, you will burn out quickly. There has to be a respite every now and then from
02:38:07.300someone who actually knows what he's doing. And that apparently that editor had not had such a
02:38:12.200respite. Well, I'm sorry. I'm legitimately sorry that happened to you. That's not how you deal
02:38:16.640with copy editing because there is no emotion attached to it. Even when I edited Bill Stumpf's
02:38:24.860book, that's S-T-U-M-P-F, he co-designed the Aeron chair, which many of you are sitting,
02:38:30.260and I'm sitting in one right now. Mine is a size C. Thank you very much. And I told him that his
02:38:34.820book was not publishable. I just said, your book is not publishable. And I gave, I edited the whole
02:38:40.500thing. Everything, it was, it was the pages were bloody, but the book was not publishable. And
02:38:45.380time passed. In fact, 20 years passed. And then I literally walked through a bookstore and there
02:38:50.620was the book published two decades later with none of my edits implemented. So it took him 20
02:38:57.160years but he got it published but all i said was your book is not publishable what about it was
02:39:02.180unpublishable if you don't want me asking that was that was a long time ago it's it's actually
02:39:07.740hard to write a good design book uh even if you even if you've created one of the one of the most
02:39:14.060iconic one of the most iconic products of the 20th century it's interesting you say that because i
02:39:17.900got a request just today from someone looking for a good design book it's a very general question
02:39:23.960graphic design or some other kind of design they kind of made sound like it was both design but
02:39:29.380also type typography and then maybe some general design it's like someone who just doesn't know
02:39:35.500much about it so they're like give me a book about what makes things look good well they're
02:39:41.080two obvious uh beginner books which are from the 90s and are written by germans again with the
02:39:45.920germans uh we can we can really never get away from the german influence uh can we uh even after
02:39:50.980the nuremberg right yes um i'm gonna i'm gonna go off on a tangent in a sec but start with these
02:39:59.840two books from the 90s which are easily gotten for pennies on the used book sites or even
02:40:03.680you get uh one of them as a creative commons uh version of pdf so you can download it without
02:40:09.760feeling guilty stop stealing sheep as in you know stop uh removing sheep sheep without
02:40:17.000the shepherd's permission stop stealing sheep and learn how type works by eric with a k
02:40:24.100speakerman s-p-i-e-k-e-r-m-a-n-n stop stealing sheep now this is that's a bold a bolderization0.79
02:40:30.380of what dwiggins said a man who would uh letter space lowercase would fuck sheep excuse the0.85
02:40:36.080vulgarity so it's been bolderized to stop stealing sheep um again excuse the vulgarity um right so0.73
02:40:42.920stop stealing sheep you know where you are uh yes i know but i always say excuse the vulgarity it's
02:40:47.720like saying peace be under him like for muhammad is saying peace be under him i was like forgive0.56
02:40:51.880the vulgarity and the next one is branding with type um it doesn't even matter er ginger is one
02:40:56.920of the names if you remember if you like redheads who among us doesn't remember ginger but stop0.53
02:41:01.160stealing sheep and branding with type are two very easy books you can read them in 25 minutes each
02:41:06.600you blow through them and you're not missing anything right and it gets you started now there
02:41:10.440there are lots of beginner books about typography and graphic design. Ordinary Googling will come
02:41:16.020up with some very good options. Basically, every public library in Canada has lots of them. And
02:41:20.900you can literally go to the branch and they're all in the roughly 742 in the Dewey Decimal
02:41:25.580System. You just start reading one after another after another. Now, the tangent I'm going to go
02:41:30.580off on is the genre, which was invented by one lady, and she's the one and only inhabitant of
02:41:37.820that desert island of graphic design autobiography. We have a Russian-American named Natalia Ilyin,
02:41:45.900I-L-Y-I-N. And she's written a couple of amazing books about being a designer and a graphic
02:41:53.220designer, which are graphic design autobiography. If you can find those, Toronto Public Library
02:41:58.620has them because I made them get them. Natalia Ilyin is, I mean, after you've read the basics
02:42:04.780and even look through the other ones the readily binged or googled or yandexed books about you
02:42:10.380know introductions to graphic design and typography okay no problem uh but if once you read natalia
02:42:17.340ilion this will be a bit of a bit of a palette cleanser because then it uh opens up a new world
02:42:21.820to you about how one could have um perhaps not a vocation but an avocation in uh design you can
02:42:29.260learn about design, right? And this is the sort of thing that your audience base would be amenable
02:42:36.840to because the term we now use, as I mentioned before, is autists, right? Basically, your entire0.97
02:42:43.480audience is autist. I prefer the term enthusiast, but it's typography and to a lesser extent,0.96
02:42:53.000copy editing, there's a whole other story there, is amenable to this because I know this happens
02:42:58.740because i've verified it i've sat at john in jonathan heffler's office that's h-o-e-f-l-e-r
02:43:04.140he and his uh former partner tobias were the one of the um most famous type designers you know
02:43:10.180featured in documentaries new york times articles about written about them um you know they do custom
02:43:14.820they did custom fonts for martha stewart he showed me the invoice from martha stewart with
02:43:19.300literally her initial saying okay on it so i sat in jonathan heffler's office from uh hofler and
02:43:24.160co heffler heffler heffler h-o-e-f-l-e-r heffler this is the problem with the with the type
02:43:31.060designers they all have unpronounceable names wait till you get to bengat all right fine i've
02:43:35.300sat in jonathan heffler's office and had him confirm that this happens he's minding his own
02:43:39.840business the mailman comes with the postal mail there's a manila envelope with nicely typeset
02:43:44.620um label and return address label you open it up and there's a nicely typeset letter
02:43:50.000Dear Mr. Heffler, my name is Jason. I'm a high school student, brackets, senior in Terre Haute, Indiana. I've been interested in typography since I was in middle school, or as we would say in Canada, junior high.
02:44:05.120I've been examining the typeface that comes standard in Apple products, Heffler Text.
02:44:11.400And although I recognize that this is your personal interpretation of the Garald family,
02:44:18.420I believe you have some ahistoricisms in Heffler Text.
02:44:21.840I hope you don't mind terribly, but I've taken the time to redraw the typeface for you,
02:53:38.160i've got a thousand fonts in my fucking adobe suite and i tried everything and i eventually0.82
02:53:43.680just had to go back to impact because it it didn't work it's mandated yeah but that's because0.84
02:53:50.840okay so we let's go back to the first principle why are conservatives lousy at design define
02:53:56.540conservative any way you wish it's because um conservatives are word people and idea people
02:54:01.980That's why you're so good at podcasts, YouTube, talk radio, except in Canada, right?
02:54:08.240You're word people and idea people, right?
02:54:11.920Which means you can productively come up with huge numbers of neologisms.
02:54:17.220Like the number of neologisms is incredible, right?
02:54:20.180Everything from white pill, black pill, red pill, blue pill to moral fagging.
02:54:24.360There's like, you call it the number of neologisms is astronomical.
02:54:28.980Yeah, we love to systematize and almost thereby universalize everything. Every instance of humanity becomes this grand system. Everything is indicative of some bigger thing.
02:54:40.280uh well you it doesn't you don't have to go that far you're just very good at coming up with uh
02:54:46.200with names for things so much so that i i i can't keep up with them i mean i have my my friend works0.52
02:54:53.180on slang dictionaries in the united states of course he's a shit lib what do you expect and
02:54:57.800he knows he knows a lot of them but not many of them but again this this shows the the the divide
02:55:03.280though because um nor normie cucks normie cucks have never heard the term black pill or white pill
02:55:10.280right they don't even know based and cringe and those two those two pairs are the core neologisms
02:55:17.880of non-progressivism right they've never heard of them but you people were able to effortlessly
02:55:23.920effortlessly coin those and make them coin of the realm after they were coined right whereas
02:55:29.700left-wing people go to design school right and they can produce uh beautiful works um my beloved
02:55:37.540friend michael beirut whose name the new yorker misspelled the new yorker makes mistakes and i
02:55:43.320spot them thank you very much michael beirut a pentagram yes i should that should have been my
02:55:47.180first clue that's b-i-e-r-u-t wonderful if you watch the uh documentary simply entitled helvetica
02:55:53.680why didn't i mention that before watch the documentary helvetica i watched that too i
02:55:57.680think about the documentary from time to time and they're because i had to explain that even to my
02:56:03.420wife and other people where it's like Helvetica seems like this very brutalist boring font but
02:56:09.200the way they described the revolution of thought associated with that sweeping away all the
02:56:15.440superfluous design and making something just bold and boom and there it is yes and Michael
02:56:20.600Beirut explains that showing old Coca-Cola ads in 1970s Coca-Cola ads in Helvetica Coke bang it's0.55
02:56:27.840the real thing bang drink it and shut up bang all right michael be rude at pentagram designed the
02:56:33.880hillary campaign which is the capital h with the arrow the crossbar is an arrow right so the the0.77
02:56:41.000democrats and the progressives in general have blue chip talent available to them and they produce
02:56:46.520amazing work right well i mean chippard shippard ferry did that obama poster that despite what
02:56:53.740anyone thinks of obama that's a very evocative image it's very like that's going to be with us
02:57:00.220after the memory of everything obama did well yes actually arguably that's that's an that's the
02:57:07.120the stepping stone between the kiss logotype and the stranger things logotype is the obama hope
02:57:11.780poster right what is the typeface uh that used through the entire obama campaign and on that
02:57:18.940poster why yes gotham by jonathan heffler everything comes back it's all circular isn't
02:57:24.240it there's a direct line by the way um from andre the giant to the shepherd ferry obama poster
02:57:31.560are you aware of this this lineage was that the um andre the giant has a posse precisely
02:57:37.060precisely so you see so we we again return to paleontology for our planet that's only 5999
02:57:43.38099 years old yeah the the in our space of the waters that we swim in it's not very cool to
02:57:49.140know a lot about street art everyone sees it as degenerate so i have all this it is knowledge
02:57:54.900well it is but we we can start our own street art so the the the the sequence of steps is
02:58:04.020we we all remember andre the giant the the wrestler with the pituitary condition there
02:58:08.020are a couple of documentaries about him highly sympathetic figure right love beloved by all yes
02:58:13.380So then there became, there came to be these sniped posters, sniping is what you do when
02:58:34.980And then there'd be ones, you know, quasi Borg-like images, you know, with one eye as
02:58:39.860a sort of strange camera that's kind of has a posse, right?
02:58:43.380And if you look at some of the second and third generation of those, it looks a lot like the Obama Hope poster because Shepard Fairey designed some of the second and third generation versions of the Andre the Giant Has a Posse poster and, you know, we pasted them, sniped them around town.
02:59:02.760If you put them side by side, especially if you look at the sort of ochre and red and black colored versions of the Obama poster, which is a very good color palette, put them side by side, they're structurally identical.
02:59:16.220and so there's a direct link between uh crazy kids uh wheat pasting andre the giant has a posse
02:59:23.560on the streets of i guess new york philadelphia actually on shepherd ferries from i think
02:59:27.800philadelphia to um uh the graphic design of the presidential campaign for obama i'm glad you
02:59:34.020brought this up because my background here is that myself and my co-host judas back because
02:59:39.740we've known each other since high school back around that time and when we were a bit older
02:59:44.120we used to do graffiti i don't even call it street art because it's not like we were fucking
02:59:48.380painting murals but we used to go sneak into train yards and just write shits on the side of
02:59:54.280trains alley okay that's degenerate is what we were trying we were trying to come up with but
02:59:58.880what i was trying to say was the psychology of someone who would even do this like what does
03:00:03.800andre the giant have a posse mean why are we doing this because everyone understands the concept of a
03:00:09.540meme in internet culture is to propagate an idea which is how richard dawkins would define a meme
03:00:15.580too technically but there's a certain type of person that for seemingly no reason certainly
03:00:22.000not for profit but just i want to here's the thing i thought of i'm going to paste it on walls i'm
03:00:27.860going to replicate it and just put it everywhere so people see it and no one's even going to really
03:00:31.780know it was me and i think the anonymity to is is is very striking but i don't know like there's
03:00:38.640just something very interesting they're like why do why do we fucking do this but there's a certain
03:00:42.620type of mind that that seems obvious that you just would well yes but the ones you remember are the
03:00:48.460ones that are really good slogans Andre the giant has a posse who knows what that precisely means
03:00:53.620but it really rings true the vegans will spray paint things around town here with a little
03:01:00.780picture of a cow. And the slogan induces you to say it a certain way, picture of a cow,
03:01:09.440not your mom, not your milk, right? So these are all left-wing examples. I mean, the best ones
03:01:17.520come from the 1980s and early 90s with ACT UP New York. There's never been an activist group that
03:01:22.940has been more successful before the trucker protest, okay, before the Freedom Convoy than ACT UP.
03:01:27.660They got everything they wanted. And the world we're living in is a direct result of ACT UP.
03:01:32.080And I mean that at the most profound possible level. And they had incredible design and graphics
03:01:38.220to the point where their entire book's written about the design of ACT UP. Everyone knows the
03:01:44.880Silence Equals Death poster, which is in a variant of Gil Sands with the pink triangle inverted,0.85
03:01:50.380which they come up with in an instant by a gay Jewish communist who was part of ACT UP. He was0.82
03:01:56.120literally a red diaper baby so of course we don't agree with act up it certainly not retro retroactively
03:02:02.580certainly they should not have defiled the host at saint patrick's cathedral right there's an
03:02:07.300entire documentary about that and even the internal dissent is is reflected in that documentary but
03:02:12.780they were extraordinarily successful what they did because everything was completely as you put it
03:02:18.260systematized if it works it works and that's why i try and tell people that there's a reason that
03:02:24.040rules for radicals as much as i may hate the author rules for radicals still is utilized in
03:02:30.040one form or another now something can be effective and it's it behooves us to understand why it's
03:02:35.640effective and identity europa i'm sorry evropa you know return with a v to identity europa with a v
03:02:43.720attempted to do this identity europa attempted to have some kind of um graphic identity uh but of
03:02:49.480of course, their posters got torn down immediately. And I believe they were prosecuted for
03:02:53.960putting up some of them. It didn't go very far. It became more a thing talked about by the left
03:03:01.580wing regime media than actually seen in public. But the posters that said, okay, it's okay to be
03:03:06.800white. We're halfway to doing something like under the giant has posse, right? But of course,0.52
03:03:13.740the fundamental problem is no one had any money to pay a printer to find a printer that would
03:03:17.620actually print them and then pay the uh the underground leftists to go around and snipe and
03:03:22.740wheat paste them because they wouldn't do it right so we this means we need you know printers that
03:03:27.580don't care get it done in south korea i don't know and i guess we need our own dudes to go around
03:03:32.060wheat pasting you just dress like the other guys who do the wheat pasting and the cops won't hassle
03:03:36.680you the pigs won't hassle you so there has been there there are small examples of um uh successful
03:03:45.360design interventions as the leftist would say along along the lines of the wild success of
03:03:51.460act up which we could absolutely emulate straightforwardly we had a bit more coordination
03:03:56.880only here and there it's not we we haven't we have we i'm going to say we you right-wing assholes
03:04:01.540have not done nothing but you're just not well suited to this and there's no no instruction
03:04:05.780there's no knowledge of the history i've given your listeners more history than they've ever
03:04:09.600encountered in their entire lives i i really liked the it's okay to be white thing and you
03:04:14.420reminded me of that and i thought at the time i was looking at the posters and they weren't
03:04:19.620over designed they weren't trying too hard and uh i'd worked in billboards for a while and you
03:04:25.500want to talk something that everyone over designs they just put too much information too much noise
03:04:29.300on it when they need to be bold and simple and it's okay to be white or understated and simple
03:04:35.180in this case yeah exactly so it actually stands out against the world which draws your attention
03:04:42.120to it where people when they make design too busy it gets lost within the noise and it seems that
03:04:46.700for many people they train their eyes to detect an advertisement and filter it out in their
03:04:53.300peripheral vision but this it draws you into it i said that was a highly effective thing whatever
03:04:59.200happened to that i think we just or whoever was doing it just it had its it had its moment i mean
03:05:04.540it it can't last forever i mean you and i are talking about the obama poster and andre the
03:05:08.620giant had a posse and act up that's all from previous decades and act up is around previous
03:05:12.820century and it had its moment but it shows that these things are possible and by the way the
03:05:17.220your the point is saying where people tune out the advertisements you probably know that on the
03:05:21.260internet that has a that has its own neologism banner blindness right it's and it's it's it's
03:05:27.140it's such a reality in the present day that trying to use the user interface trying to you know
03:05:31.360plow through the user interface on crave the crave right first of all i'm afraid of the remote
03:05:37.920control i'm afraid of touching the wrong button i've really like screwed that up hugely before
03:05:41.520i literally can't find things on it and sometimes it's sometimes the cursor and i can't tell what
03:05:47.520has focus because i can't do where the cursor is sometimes the cursor is on the thing i'm looking
03:05:51.200for and i literally can't see it and that's banner blindness you've banner blindness yourself blind
03:05:57.200precisely i did say i was halfway visually impaired but only half and not really
03:06:01.280yeah it's um i was going to keep going with um the idea of conservatives don't know how to design
03:06:10.000and and the examples you had given in the article i was you know referring to were mainly from what
03:06:15.480we might call the dissident right um actually before we get to that i was curious without
03:06:21.600getting too much into your your personal status um you refer to sort of the right wingers as you
03:06:28.440people what would you call yourself well i i also called you right-wing assholes but these are
03:06:33.700affectionate sobriques right i was because you also referenced this hour as 88 minutes and only0.63
03:06:40.100a fellow traveler would know that deep cut i really really enjoyed this hour is 88 minutes
03:06:45.340at which in the uh the archives seemed to disappear although i think we could file an
03:06:50.120access to information request at that place in oshawa that those that awful academic works out
03:06:55.220there who studies the right wing, she probably has the archives on a hard drive somewhere.
03:07:01.060Well, I was, let's see, to paraphrase Bronsky Beat, leave in the morning with everything you
03:07:10.760own in a little black case, right? So I moved from Moncton, even though I'm from Prince Edward
03:07:18.180Island originally, to Montreal, went to McGill Linguistics, but eventually graduated from
03:07:22.880U of T. And foolishly came out of the closet here in Toronto. So I saw AIDS Action Now and
03:07:34.680Queer Nation, which was fun at the time, up close. I saw there what we now understand to be
03:07:41.440identity politics up close. I've been working in accessibility for people with disabilities
03:07:47.300for 35 years i even worked in accessibility for gay pride day and back in the previous again
03:07:52.900previous century you don't see that many gay men in wheelchairs do you uh that's what you think
03:07:59.380uh to the point where when one of them dies the with the wheel trans the wheel trans drivers ready
03:08:04.400to raise their eyebrow that's not that's not quite true moving right along i wrote for uh i was a
03:08:11.260columnist in extra i wrote for out week and the advocate mashagessen was my editrix at the
03:08:16.980advocate this is for real all right now we have female editor and editrix as an editrix of course0.61
03:08:22.920you i i think you're you're you're right wing asshole audience is hip enough to get that i have
03:08:27.920a lot to learn joe so i essentially i i grew up in uh uh left-wing activism left-wing uh journalism0.75
03:08:37.140gay and lesbian journal or queer journalism queer when it was fun and interesting it really was fun
03:08:42.020interesting. All right. I've very much burned out on that because I'm older now and I understand0.88
03:08:50.160things. Maturity came in waves for me. And I understand that these people would personally
03:08:55.480genocide me if they had the chance. And I certainly dealt with enough hostility about it
03:09:01.140during the COVID AIDS. And I've just changed my mind completely. Like so many people,
03:09:08.600um a switch flipped instantaneously right uh we decided that the discourse was no longer possible
03:09:15.520it's not worth talking to these people uh i just want to do my thing well all right
03:09:19.960you know you know what happened during the coup right we had the we had uh
03:09:27.300uh suddenly we got the manna from heaven known as neat bucks all the caps n-e-e-t not in education
03:09:34.700employment and training bux neat bucks so we had uh trump bucks biden bucks and justin bucks
03:09:41.820raining from the sky we have the serve in canada right we recall this and uh the the
03:09:49.100what the regime media calls incels which is uh any man who has trouble talking to a girl
03:09:57.100understood that they were more hated than ever because they were the ones who didn't want to
03:10:00.540wear a mask out in public and since since they were just they they'd reached their saturation
03:10:06.140level of contempt so they decided quite quite reasonably i'm going to take the neat bucks and
03:10:13.580i'm going to stay at home and i'm going to play my video games and i'm going to read classic
03:10:18.060literature on project gutenberg and not bother anybody so this makes sense on its face this is
03:10:25.740a pretty good way to live on its face the problem is they come for you right to this day i have
03:10:31.900people aggressing uh against me to this very day well not this exact day i have people aggressing
03:10:36.780against me including you know getting assaulted on the tdc and this sort of thing you know of course0.89
03:10:41.740i get uh called a faggot on the tdc and i just shoot back yeah i am a faggot at least i graduated
03:10:46.700from high school and that shuts them up so i learned the hard way that these people would
03:10:51.980would personally genocide me if they could, because they almost, they, I mean, they would
03:10:55.760have, they would have done that if it were at all possible during the COVID dates. So I just don't
03:11:00.020talk to normies, right? But much more importantly, for reasons known only to the good Lord, even
03:11:08.160though I was always a Catholic, at no time ever did I not believe in God. I was away from the
03:11:13.900church for a breezy 44 years, and I have no explanation for that whatsoever. But three years
03:11:19.280ago, I came back because I was listening to interesting podcasts, including another one
03:11:24.840I've been a guest on, Trans Regrets Snoopy Presents the Bible, a wonderful show. I would
03:11:29.960listen to very interesting podcasts and discussions, and I just would walk past the Catholic churches
03:11:35.220there, and I just kept asking myself, do I have any reason not to be going back to church? And I
03:11:39.620just couldn't come up with a reason not to. And then, remember I said, many of us went through
03:11:45.100of a scenario where the switch flipped and we just are our worldview changing in irrevocably
03:11:50.020in an instant well basically the same thing happened to me and i've just i took one literally
03:11:55.180one step past a church here and i realized that well i'm the the minute they remove the mask
03:12:00.820mandate i have to go to the first to the church the first sunday after that if i don't do that
03:12:05.500i never will and by the way if you if you do that joe notice the change in interlockage here if you0.92
03:12:12.540do that, Joe, you basically have to put the dick down for the rest of your life. And my response0.93
03:12:16.600in my, again, instantaneous response was, yeah, I know I'll do that. So I'm, I, I lead a small
03:12:23.140existence, right? My expertise is not wanted by anyone, right? If the, and I've learned the hard
03:12:29.040way that if over a period of decades, that if I'm the only person who can solve a problem,
03:12:34.480they'll leave the problem unsolved rather than hire me to fix it because it comes with me and
03:12:38.720my personality right and my reputation which precedes me now i'm prickly i'm complex and0.98
03:12:44.540prickly but that's just because i'm a 20th century elder gay and like the jews of the 20th century
03:12:50.140we are repositories of knowledge we have great erudition and connoisseurship we have more for0.62
03:12:56.320us than the jews we have tremendous valorization of beauty and that's not no no one wants that
03:13:03.040that's the last thing people want erudition is the last thing people want in the 21st century
03:13:07.380and that in microcosm is the issue of conservatives not being able to design so i simply lead like the
03:13:14.100like the the socially awkward fellows who took the neat bucks and just you know sit at home
03:13:18.740i just lead a small life of church going and daily prayers and you know um i guess try try well this
03:13:27.700is i mean this sincerely try not to instigate trouble i don't i don't start trouble anymore
03:13:32.340in fact we're writing that article okay right you think well then why did you write that article
03:13:37.400because it was even it was an update to a previous article and i was kind of getting getting sick of
03:13:41.160the lousy type of coffee especially from the beloved steve sailor that that's why i did that
03:13:46.200but i i try to stay out of trouble these days it comes it comes and finds me anyway but i try to
03:13:52.120stay out of trouble well i was going to say best of luck on your new path that's why i always say
03:13:58.020to people who come to the sort of fork in the road that you have i say all i can say is best
03:14:03.560of luck it seems like you're living a purposeful existence um and do you think that you can change
03:14:12.860the right with your wisdom of design or do you think or is the uh the separation between these
03:14:18.580two hemispheres of thought left and right is it is it too wide can you make the concern it's good
03:14:23.500Well, I don't know. I don't have grand designs, pun intended, in that manner. I'd be happy if we produced pretty good small press books. I agree that with one way I just pointed out that where so much political thought is being lost to the ether by publishing on Substack. This is like the war bloggers publishing on TypePad. Really, there's no structural difference.
03:14:50.120it'd be nice if we could produce our own little small press books now of course the problem is
03:14:54.800there's nowhere to buy them in the real world and there's no such thing as a public library that
03:14:58.520will um stock them because i've you know fought the biggest one in the country about that before
03:15:03.040if you could go into that a little bit because um when i was in my early 20s i was writing running
03:15:09.900a small press myself very very small but a big part of what i was doing at the time was getting
03:15:15.000in touch with independent bookstores getting in touch with libraries trying to just get them on
03:15:21.080the phone to see if they'll carry the book or writing applications i found the small independent
03:15:24.880bookstores were more amenable to this but i do wonder if there's a pathway there where it's just
03:15:32.680hitting the fucking bricks it's something no one wants to do because it's a grind building a
03:15:37.280rolodex of all these names but that's what publishers do that's what people's entire jobs
03:15:42.160or just this. But I do wonder, is there a way to just hack together some network of just
03:15:48.980independent bookstores that could create some semblance of actual published culture?
03:15:56.080Talk about a blast from the past. I mean, I had a couple of ideas as you were asking your
03:16:01.320question, but I just flashed back to standing in front of Ernst Zundel's house on Carlton Street
03:16:06.800back in the 90s. This is back when I knew nothing about Ernst Zundel, apart from what was written
03:16:12.940in the left-wing press. I still know very little about him. But if you tried to set up a real-world
03:16:22.520book stall, it would be besieged by Antifa within seconds. There's nothing wrong with using
03:16:32.700using the internet to sell your books. I think, first of all, the books are poorly produced. We
03:16:36.800know this. But they're also, they're even poorly presented online. Why shouldn't there be a book
03:16:42.500trailer in a video for every single book you put out? It's a $0 option to do that sort of thing.
03:16:50.140And by the way, I did mention in my pieces there that entire centuries of typefaces are non-viable
03:17:23.200uh uh argue that's the right that's a freudian slip i know how to make i know how one would
03:17:31.000make a case to libraries to stock books like uh bronze age mindset and whatever the hell
03:17:36.900delicious tacos is publishing this week that sort of thing right the culture thugs apparently
03:17:41.860is an excellent book academic agent likes it uh i i know how to make that argument it would be
03:17:48.580very difficult though it'd be extraordinarily difficult and that seems to be a ship that has
03:17:56.880sailed i would like to do this online online online book selling done better would seem to be
03:18:03.100would seem to be all all we in quotation marks need yeah um eventually if you're speaking to
03:18:10.060librarians or any decision maker and i've dealt with this they will they might like the book but
03:18:16.220say tell me more about the publisher what else do they publish like they are they're aware of what's
03:18:21.660out there many of them so they want to figure out what the yeah some of them reject self-publishing
03:18:26.780categorically which they do selectively so for example it'd be very difficult for antelope hill
03:18:31.740even if they were publishing something classical but they they got a lot of hitler stuff in their
03:18:36.860catalog and they'll have to love to explain that at some point yes well i had uh i guess i guess
03:18:43.580we're talking about this now i had a great deal of success and failure with the toronto public
03:18:47.820library in suggesting titles to them i had over 300 titles added to the library now some of these
03:18:54.220are quite obscure things including a lot of graphic design work okay fine but the library
03:18:58.300also didn't have robocop i'm sorry you can't be the biggest library in canada with 100 branches
03:19:02.860without robocop fine but i also got into them you know got into huge fights with them took with the
03:19:08.220human rights commission this is the human rights tribunal this is for real um because the the
03:19:13.660hateful leftist girls who run the place um just refused to uh stock certain books and then after
03:19:21.500that after that dissipated they um completely rewrote the selection criteria to eliminate
03:19:29.100self-published materials now that's funny when uh globe and mail columnist jan wong whom i really
03:19:35.820like. I'm a big fan of Jan Wong. All right. Had her publishing contract shit canned and had to
03:19:42.680suddenly self-publish her memoir. This is now over 10 years ago. She says the first place that called
03:19:49.860her to buy copies was the Toronto Public Library, a crate full of self-published memoirs from Jan
03:19:55.680Wong. Now, again, I'm a fan of Jan Wong. All right. Miss Jan Wong and I. All right. It's fine.
03:20:01.780But the library was perfectly happy buying a self-published book from an accepted female Vismian authoress, but they're probably not going to want to stalk Bronze Age mindset.
03:20:17.080And in fact, you're going to hear me typing. Some of us may know worldcat.org. That's essentially, it's a meta catalog of library catalogs. So let's look up Bronze Age Mindset and see if any libraries anywhere. Cornell has it. Smith College, Yale. Yale has it. San Francisco and Monash in Victoria, Australia.
03:20:46.520that's very interesting so it i guess it can be done it so it's kind of that princeton thing that
03:20:52.200you hear about what what and what princeton thing is that there it's gay it's a gay college well
03:21:00.520well let's go back what is this well the san francisco prince of cornell well okay this is a
03:21:05.800call back to our very first email where you gave me a lashing because even back in 2023 i said
03:21:12.920something about bronze age mindset probably in passing because i didn't really review it until
03:21:18.120years later but you had said you shut the up he's one of our great thinkers uh okay bronze
03:21:24.680age mindset since we're gonna all right let's let's let's become literary critics why not
03:21:29.080and we're already everything else bronze age age mindset is sui generis it is sui generis
03:21:35.080bit of experimental literature right it's right up there with kathy acker and lawrence braithwaite
03:21:39.880and um the the the the classics of avant-garde literature it's it's it is categorically in that
03:21:47.660same uh in that at that same level now what do we think of uh bronze age pervert well i've sort of
03:21:55.180gone off on him too unfortunately i maintained a samis.rss feed of his show which only two people0.71
03:22:03.660listen to if you'd asked me nicely i could have given you a link um and i even you know would
03:22:10.080try to you know offer to help move all his audio files over to sub stack and start an rss feed
03:22:17.440paid rss feed there i've tried to help him i've tried to help so many people over the years all
03:22:22.960right and but no um also there are there are reasons to become disillusioned and this is
03:22:28.720again, part of the life cycle. We do get disillusioned with our luminaries, right?
03:22:34.780The left-wing phrase is, we eat our own. Well, that's what we do. We just get disillusioned
03:22:39.720with them. And in present day, in the current era, that happens when we find out that they
03:22:46.780have some kind of unusual behind-the-scenes sponsorship or putting transgenders in their
03:22:52.060men's magazine or this sort of thing. There's a tripwire. There's a tripwire we didn't know0.99
03:22:56.440was he what they um they uh pushed their doc martin boot straight through a tripwire that
03:23:04.400we didn't know we had even strung up in front of them that's that's how we become disillusioned
03:23:09.160with right-wing influencers in the present day don't you think do i have that right i think you
03:23:13.100would also point out one of the shirts i designed and you actually again in very detailed fashion
03:23:19.300said here's everything that's wrong with this over designing which was one of the reasons i've
03:28:09.700You don't have to just make T-shirts, which are unflattering on most of the right-wing assholes' phenotypes because they're pencil neck geeks or fatzos generally, right?0.51
03:28:19.500And again, so are young Catholics.0.54
03:28:27.260They're all former drug addicts who can deadlift four plates and are covered in skin illustrations and footlong beards.1.00
03:28:33.060Anyway, you could think a bit bigger and have an entire product line of almost bespoke things like jackets or long-sleeved shirts, right, that cost hundreds of dollars.
03:28:47.920And you could be the only one in your town slash parish wearing these things.
03:28:52.980And there, of course, you'd have to be someone who takes a lot of pride in self-presentation anyway.
03:28:58.760We can think back to what we discussed earlier.
03:29:01.300But it shouldn't just be a T-shirt and a stupid baseball cap.
03:29:04.840I mean, I would never leave the house and a shirt that wasn't ironed, and trousers that weren't ironed.
03:29:09.000I would never leave the shirt and the shirt, the house and a T-shirt or a ball cap.0.78
03:29:15.580You delightful, you adorable Nazis should think bigger because the merch is a fertile ground.
03:29:21.360because these are three-dimensional objects
03:29:23.260and you can have three-dimensional designs on them.
03:29:26.180Well, it's interesting you mentioned that
03:29:27.620because there was two branches to this store
03:38:20.560And even, again, according to our beloved goddess, Camille Paglia, if you look at abstract art, it's even the same abstract art like Jackson Pollock's that were funded by the CIA as a means of undermining, right?
03:38:35.740If you see the real thing, it's positively overwhelming.
03:38:39.240But they look ridiculous in a thumbnail on the Twitter.
03:38:42.460So they can apprehend these things ideologically or just logically say, this is beauty and we need more of this, but they don't really feel anything and they don't want to create anything.
03:38:53.980It's just here's a conduit through which to deliver a message.
03:38:58.360And I wrote this article recently called Utopian Trauma, and that was my way of trying to, I was describing the world of art as a dimension you can inhabit.