00:34:01.660I was impressed by the ingeniousness of it,
00:34:05.840impressed in the same way that one might be impressed by 9-11.
00:34:09.300you know like that's the that is honestly the most i was going to say that too the most similar
00:34:14.220thing to this is crashing a plane into a building in terms of how indiscriminate it is indiscriminate
00:34:19.860and also technically complicated beholding and saying i didn't know you could do that yeah
00:34:25.500i was not on my bingo card i didn't know and that's why it's a paradigm shift for me and
00:34:33.200anyone else who is a military analyst you know correct me if i'm wrong but to me i never heard
00:34:38.860of so freight flagrantly um the production chain being used as a new theater of war because how
00:34:45.920they did this according to israel officials was that they didn't swap out pagers they actually
00:34:52.680went to the manufacturers and made pagers with bombs in them then shipped them which means they
00:34:58.400corrupted the production line in some fashion the read the read that i got so far from two things
00:35:04.240The first one was that they examined some of the devices and they realized in all likelihood it was there's a certain type of explosive that is extremely explosive, even with like a few grams.
00:45:21.360I know we're streaming live here, but this kind of cuts down to a lot of, I think, in my opinion, not necessarily mine, but for a lot of people, the source of anti-Semitism is that exact thing.
00:45:31.680Like, we all know, let's criticize Nazis for a second.0.96
00:45:35.040There were loads of Nazi men in the Reich who did horrible things, but most of them were punished by their commanders for doing that because they weren't actually fucking supposed to.0.90
00:45:46.400Likewise, we have like Abu Ghraib in the U.S. military.0.96
00:51:27.480Okay, so it's not just nationalism, not just religion, okay.
00:51:33.360There are also various ideas from pundits I generally agree with that don't fit the Israeli story.
00:51:38.800I love well-meaning American writers fret about affordable family formation.
00:51:42.520which is basically about how easy it is for young people to couple up fine, well-paying jobs and buy or rent a child-appropriate housing.
00:51:50.880But Israel is an extremely crowded country, and the Bank of Israel has deliberately stoked house price inflation since 2008.
00:51:59.880The average young couple live in a badly furnished flat on the fifth floor of a modest monstrosity in a new-built neighborhood drawn up by town planners,
00:52:08.360whose modus operandi seems to be watching YouTube videos on good urbanism.
00:52:11.680So just to summarize there, it doesn't seem to be the quality of the life or how much money they have that is driving this fertility, which would track with what we know about historically what's led to increased fertility.
00:52:26.580People tend to think there's a materialist answer to that, that, oh, we'll give them more money.
00:52:31.960More money hasn't really driven up birth rates.
00:52:34.360i have my own theories uh when we were reading a new nobility blood and soil uh you know not to
00:52:40.600rehash that old thing i do think it's has more to do with giving people land and freedom giving
00:52:46.360them ownership over something but you know it doesn't seem to be the case here i mean this
00:52:50.680kind of challenges my own preconceptions like these people are just renting renting shitty
00:52:55.320square the same kind of square brutalist blocks that are in egypt um what do you think about that
00:53:02.360so far yeah fair finally uh socially reclusive fertility at before explaining what is actually
00:53:11.000going on israel need to agree on a basic model for why people choose or don't choose to reproduce
00:53:15.640at different rates over time the first is that declining fertility across the developed world
00:53:20.440is not principally and perhaps not even at all a consequence of smaller family sizes but of a large
00:53:25.640and growing proportion of the population yes no children at all that's what we were talking about
00:53:29.480before is that there's the people that are having families are having the same types of families
00:53:34.300possibly more or rather more children but the people that used to have one or two are now saying
00:53:39.860none yeah this is this is the same thing we talked about about a year ago yeah so what's up with the
00:53:45.860zionist entity he says the first piece of our puzzle is sheridim i'm not haradim haradim
00:54:34.120The important point is that everywhere except Israel, that's where it ends.1.00
00:54:36.860Plenty of people in New York State witness the large Sharedi fams hogging the sidewalk.1.00
00:54:42.700Everywhere they go, they complain about these people.1.00
00:54:45.920The key difference is that in Israel, there are wannabe charity communities
00:54:49.460that are influenced by the cheridim for whom they draw religious inspiration these fall into
00:54:52.740two main categories what these groups do is provide a one-way channel of influence between
00:54:57.780israeli charity and the rest of the society um the basic model here is that unlike anywhere
00:55:03.300else in the world there's no hard cultural barrier between the high redeem and the rest of society
00:55:07.860and enough mimetic stepping stones that almost everyone is influenced to some degree a simplified
00:55:14.020model looks like this so it sounds like what he's saying is that you have these these ultra orthodox
00:55:19.140people that have big families and they can act as an ideal right right right so you might not have
00:55:26.360nine kids but you could respect the status of these people and maybe that drives you to have
00:55:32.020five four or five six right and then there's different gradations of that but it seems like
00:55:38.000you don't need to have a top-down ideological state-run apparatus to do it you actually just
00:55:44.380need these sort of dynastic families seeded throughout to act as inspirations of those
00:55:50.020around them like a touchstone it's as if it's as if in our society like late 19th century cowboys
00:55:57.160were still real and walking around and there was one in every neighborhood and everybody wanted to
00:56:01.900be that guy and was reminded of it every day because he represents the true core and soul0.98
00:56:07.400of our nation except that it's weird weird ultra jews and because the jews those guys might be0.94
00:56:15.060their cowboys that's the cowboys cowboys of the jew world yeah yeah they're the cool cowboy you0.97
00:56:20.360know for a white guy it would be you know who would it be uh the cowboy on a surfboard right
00:56:25.000when's the last time you've seen that with a machine gun with a machine gun yeah uh is there
00:56:32.280anything that nations can learn from this to stop their societies falling apart well some countries
00:56:36.720do have breeder populations, somewhat analogous to the Charidim, like the Amish or the Stidians.0.81
00:56:43.440So it's like, you don't need, what you need is a population. And I don't know what percentage0.88
00:56:48.980of the population these Charidim are, right? Maybe it's 1%, right? But that's enough. That's1.00
00:56:55.380enough to influence. And they can, they will exist even when the state falls apart. That's
00:57:00.660what's interesting about this like you don't need a mass apparatus to do this you just need
00:57:06.900these driven dynastic families and they ultimately become the state just by outbreeding the
00:57:12.800secularists right like over time you would expect even after two generations they would be a huge
00:57:18.320huge majority and it's exponential so long as they keep that tfr up well this is what we were0.90
00:57:23.500discussing with the new nobility of blood and steel by dure and this is something i've had to
00:57:28.300explain a few times because I published that article in vanguardist journal um about this
00:57:35.000topic it was a eugenic individualism um and the mass abandonment and I didn't want to be
00:57:41.160misconstrued as an anti-natalist article it's actually a pro-natalist article and the solution
00:57:47.140was that what we are going through is a genetic bottleneck um a harsh darwinian genetic bottleneck
00:57:53.100And what you need to do, and this is what Daray and even Hitler and others were trying to get their arms around, was like, we don't need to increase the fertility rate of everyone.
00:58:04.060We don't need everyone having five kids, but we need to find the founding stock of people who possess not only the genetic qualities that we like, but also the behavioral qualities we like.0.75
00:58:15.260And also, you know, they've proven themselves in some way, and their way was World War I, right?
00:58:22.340there's some kind of way to battle test you to show that you are you're the type of stuff we
00:58:28.760like to grow and find those and those might only be like five to ten percent of the population
00:58:33.440but you kind of let the rest die off and put your resources into them saying you are the ones who
00:58:40.660should have nine ten kids and we that is where you invest your your your your capital and so you
00:58:47.000don't just spread the capital across everyone because that'd be a waste you know once again
00:58:51.460we've circled our way back to modern monetary theory this is modern monetary theory of breeding
00:58:56.960you can't just say everything you like is modern monetary theory i'm saying this no it is because
00:59:02.740here's no one gets it but me that's what i've come to understand but this really is so don't
00:59:09.700forget about trying to get make everyone have big families find the types of people who are
00:59:14.620behaviorally and spiritually and intellectually predisposed like it's not just oh we want someone1.00
00:59:20.500with you know blonde hair and blue eyes who's tall like what if they're dumb as shit maybe you don't0.99
00:59:26.100want them to have like you actually want to find like those rare people and they do exist but0.99
00:59:32.180there's not a lot of them but you want to make a lot of them that's the whole fucking point or
00:59:35.560that's the point they were talking about and that's essentially what they're doing here and
00:59:39.460that you don't need to do it in a state run apparatus you can you can actually have that as0.94
00:59:43.900its own internal community like for example imagine if the amish weren't just huge lumbering1.00
00:59:50.220freaks like frankly you know i mean like when you look at the amish i don't i don't really have1.00
00:59:55.620strong opinions on the amish but from what i've seen they're like the extreme if you're trying0.98
01:00:02.180to build a peasant type in fallout and just cranked everything to the right you know what i
01:00:07.240mean like huge but you know you don't they're not prioritizing intelligence or anything they might
01:00:13.420be prioritizing can how fast can you build a barn now what if you had other qualities you're trying
01:00:19.200to maximize you know what i mean anyway so that's it yeah that's basically that the stuff we talk0.93
01:00:24.860about that's something the jews are doing i think there's probably there's a lot of truth to this0.95
01:00:29.800it's a mimetic strategy that they're doing they're hoping through mimesis that this is something0.99
01:00:35.240young people are inspired by and it's not advertising it's not a fucking government0.92
01:00:40.700program you know it's just not something you recruit for i think that's why it works0.96
01:00:45.040um we got vulpa saying longhorn breed here all right here we go bill wilson hand explodes
01:00:55.080as you hit enter on google search term abigail shapiro milkers groiper
01:00:58.840not really related to what we're talking about
01:19:20.800i don't even remember i usually let it fly but it was more like if we see each other
01:19:30.080so we got darby here uh chiming in bowden often talked about hardening your heart for what comes
01:19:41.040next and you know i've never had a bad thing to say about and i mean even they tried to show me
01:19:47.100a video of him acting kind of goofy lately i'm like you know what makes me like him more
01:19:51.900sort of damocles party when says darrow and tommy oh i'm going to show you this i don't want you to
01:19:59.800take this too seriously but go off king judas also says darby um thanks behold says military
01:20:07.960underground warfare training now making sense uh we also have kate jay showed this she says a woman
01:20:14.220there's a woman who lost most of her hair skin had brown and she's on death's door and was
01:20:18.720three times horrifying just on twitter today i think i saw that same so like wouldn't it be
01:20:23.940wouldn't it be fine like wouldn't it be just be like a morally upstanding thing for the doctor
01:20:27.620who administered that vaccine to that woman to be to be you know i don't know beaten to match her0.88
01:20:35.140you know what i mean i don't know like deuce i'm just talking it's just fucking fair you know0.77
01:20:39.960you can't do that to somebody and walk away there's got to be some some justice well that's
01:20:45.000why you know this sort of justice can't exist in the neoliberal paradigm because you need to
01:20:50.180stand on the side of violence and it's you know i've always made this argument and we've made
01:20:55.820this in the past where you know liberals will often argue against the death penalty or severe
01:21:01.080punishment because they think uh prison and the justice system is about rehabilitation and it's
01:21:06.140not it's not even about the criminal that's the point it's about the community it's about the
01:21:10.700rest of us it's about the jury and everyone gathered in the court when they're watching a
01:21:15.520trial of a serial murderer it's not about fixing the murderer it's it's about putting everyone else
01:21:22.520at ease and if if the rest of the people believe that that murder or whoever got off you have
01:21:28.540brought you know that person hasn't been killed and you think say that but everyone's trust in
01:21:33.860the system went down 25 right and that's a far worse situation that's what i was going to say
01:21:39.560like this idea i remember reading about this they had this issue in iraq with the idea of a normative
01:21:44.460system and the reason that a lot of people like civilians in iraq would side with the with the
01:21:50.420the taliban was or you know whoever the muslim because there's all these different groups right
01:21:55.660but they'd side with essentially the terrorists because the terrorists offered a normative system
01:22:00.680the soldiers were only there once in a while acting on specific missions and specific goals
01:22:05.220the terrorists set up rules and like these rules are extremely strict and harsh and awful with
01:22:10.820terrible punishments but they are consistent and they're there every day they're there when you
01:22:15.840sleep they're there when you go out they're always there and it's much easier to live in a normative
01:22:20.480system even a terrible one where the rules are actually fucking insistently uh consistently
01:22:25.340enforced than to live in a place where the rules only exist on paper and what happens in reality0.70
01:22:31.280is totally fucking random it's at the whim of whoever has the gun and that's the system we live
01:22:35.200in now where you have a set of laws and they're enforced to different degrees to different people0.97
01:22:39.520at different times like you have like if i if i poke some guy on the street i'll go to prison for
01:22:44.620assault but if i administer a vaccine to a woman and she dies leaving her children motherless
01:22:49.540i get an award like this is there is no normative system also in the case of iraq this is what was
01:22:55.680discussed i believe in the book fourth generational warfare by william lind and he was recounting
01:23:02.260i believe it was that book his experiences in afghanistan and iraq and what you described was
01:23:08.440the problem they were having which was that they would set their bases up far apart from the
01:23:12.680villages from the city so they were always seen as an outsider and the new type of warfare they
01:23:17.780were pioneering was well we need to ingratiate ourselves more with the local power structures
01:23:22.640and make the civilians see us as their friends basically and so by degrees over many many years
01:23:29.140you had more and more soldiers who were encouraged to learn about islam form relationships with those
01:23:35.760in the cities and you know don't have the bases closer to the cities basically become part of the
01:23:40.980culture which you know that so the people accepted them more however the pressure put on the soldiers0.96
01:23:47.400some fucking guy from nebraska who shows up he's like okay i need to like muslims now you need to0.96
01:23:54.060like muslims and be their friends better than the taliban yeah that's that's a lot to demand on some0.99
01:24:01.340guy who's just there to fight for his career now you need to actually believe you're fighting for
01:24:05.860afghanistan that's a that's a lot to the other part of it is is there's this element where you
01:24:10.960have to kind of have the carrot and the stick like within these successful normative systems
01:24:14.360there are rewards but there's also punishments and militaries belonging to you know 21st century
01:24:20.100liberal world order countries don't have the ability to really um you know love you know0.86
01:24:27.060hand out punishments the way that the taliban does you know we're never going to go and like
01:24:31.140cut people's fingers off for theft and that's kind of what we started this conversation about like
01:24:35.480we used to have a normative system where thieves like i think part of the reason that we talked
01:24:39.940about this many times the idea that that the english created such an amazing empire was for
01:24:44.360300 years if you were a thief they cut your hands off and if you raped someone you'd be publicly
01:24:48.500hung and it was a big event and everybody loved it and like you said they were not hanging him0.90
01:24:52.820for him we're hanging him for us because it's a fun sunday and that's the normative system we all
01:24:57.640know that it doesn't matter who you are or where you're from we're all equalized by the hangman0.91
01:25:02.920if we break these certain specific rules that everybody fucking knows but we don't and again0.92
01:25:08.620we so you have to have the punishment and i don't think there was ever an option in afghanistan0.91
01:25:13.660for them to have a set of punishments that were like you said or anything close to what the
01:25:17.760taliban was dueling out and there's no like afghanistan will for all of history probably0.92
01:25:22.540belong to those people for that reason well that's why even as as you know cruel and inhuman0.99
01:25:28.520And as it is to say, like, even what happened with the molestation, what was it, in Abu Dhabi, Abu Ghraib, you know, like the torture and humiliation of those prisoners.
01:25:39.060I'm like, yeah, that's going to happen.0.98
01:25:42.840I mean, I don't think you can even police that out.0.53
01:25:45.440And look, look, if here's a problem with Abu Ghraib, the problem with Abu Ghraib was a Western media problem, which is to say we set rules and standards for ourselves and we didn't follow them.
01:25:55.480And it was a big embarrassment and it was a geopolitical embarrassment.
01:25:57.920But you know what? I don't think the people, the civilians of that country on the ground give a fuck about that. I'll bet you if the if the punishment for collaborating with the enemy was being hung up naked in a black hood from a street lamp, I think that would have helped win the war.0.98
01:26:13.940If they just had actually done the Abu Ghraib to every single person they captured and did it publicly and did it at a specifically a certain time of day that everybody knew this is when we're doing it.0.66
01:26:29.100I'm just saying in terms of creating an effective normative system where people know, you know, to follow the rules, this is how you do it.
01:26:36.860It's be funny to go back and listen to old episodes of the show, like pre 100.