00:05:10.000Her thesis was called Olfactory Ethics, the Politics of Smell in Modern and Contemporary Prose.
00:05:17.460She literally wrote her thesis about how smells are racist.
00:05:21.120Because there are descriptors of how people smell in fictional writing, it implies that people are racist to other people because they smell bad or something like that.
00:09:33.680And the thing they were pitching, I mean, I wanted to say a thing or two as we were talking in the chat, because you see a lot of this in the space where it's like a shitty app.
00:09:45.860And then they say, and it's on the blockchain.
00:22:17.120This was over TRX, which is the native asset of the Tron blockchain, and BTT, which is the token for the BitTorrent blockchain, which he acquired some years ago.
00:22:29.180The LCC is out here saying that those are unregistered securities.
00:22:32.840He's marketing them poorly, and he had all these paid celebrity endorsers who were also not playing by the rules, including Lindsay Lohan, Soulja Boy, Lil Yachty, and more.
00:22:45.740Justin Sun has always been one of the strangest figures in the world of cryptocurrency to me.
00:22:51.260He's one whose name typically pops up because we find out that he spent a ridiculous amount of money buying lunch with Warren Buffett,
00:22:58.440Or because he was the guy who came in second on the $69 million, you know, Christie's auction of the Beeple piece, you know, last year.
00:23:09.360Like every time we hear about Justin Sun, it appears that it has to do with him essentially throwing around a bunch of money.
00:23:17.640And another part about it that's been really strange is that this is not a chap who came into cryptocurrency super wealthy.
00:23:24.040This is a guy who got wealthy around the time that Tron launched with, again, just like some suspicious stuff.
00:23:32.200And Tron itself is a blockchain that is considered to be quite large, but I've never met anybody that uses it.
00:23:38.040And I've been in the space for more than 10 years.
00:28:04.860So for a lot of new people to get into the space,
00:28:07.540you've got to explain to them what the economy is first.
00:28:11.480Because it's not just automatically legitimized.
00:28:14.080So I said, you have to figure out who do you want to get into crypto and why.
00:28:17.420is it you know mothers who are getting into day trading and it's exciting because all the sharks
00:28:24.320are already in it all the venture capitalist people are already in it so you kind of want
00:28:28.000to get slow money in do you want to get people who are just pumping and dumping or do you want
00:28:32.180people who put 250 of every paycheck into crypto no matter what as if it was an rsp or 401k yeah
00:28:39.220yeah and do those people add stability to the marketplace and do you want stability in the
00:28:43.780marketplace maybe you want it more volatile i'm like these are the questions you got to ask
00:28:47.400just from a marketing perspective because you can craft a message around each one of these things
00:28:52.060and they're talking about ethereum and you know they're excited about ethereum i'm like you know
00:28:57.160you actually don't get these people into ethereum you get them into bitcoin because bitcoin is
00:29:03.460ubiquitous and then from bitcoin you get them into ethereum and say the smart money is in ethereum
00:29:08.220because because ethereum hasn't reached its cap yet and you know what i'm saying then you get them
00:29:12.980into solana or solara or all that stuff right like it's actually easier to sell them on bitcoin
00:29:18.660because ethereum is tied to its founder vitaly right um he's he's the man he's the persona and
00:29:27.180i was thinking yeah it's like what happens if he gets shot what happens if he gets cancer like it
00:29:32.920actually matters that no one personality is tied to bitcoin it is beyond any person ethereum i don't
00:29:39.140think is beyond its founder and that's important just like a political party like if if your
00:29:45.260political party is something more like a cult of personality once that personality goes like you're
00:29:51.080in for a rocky time and so you know you're not going to get people to think that ethereum is
00:29:55.860just as good as fucking bitcoin and then there was just like they they refused to acknowledge that0.78
00:30:01.940and so i'm like oh so you people are fucking retarded then like you just you don't even0.99
00:30:06.920understand the words that are coming out of my mouth anyway so well retarded or they they are0.99
00:30:12.120the the crypto equivalent of like they think they're the wolf of wall street guys they're0.98
00:30:16.280gonna get rich on penny stocks and it's like if you actually wanted to help people with investment
00:30:21.080and get people on board for the long haul you would be selling them on like indexes and and
00:30:26.040bonds and like a diversified portfolio and safe safe moves not big moves but safe moves and within
00:30:31.480in crypto that's bitcoin but you want to sell them fucking shit coins you want to sell them
00:30:35.920some fucking scheme so yeah i mean it's i don't know whether it's necessary it's some part of it
00:30:42.440is definitely stupidity but i wonder if some part of it is internalized predatory behavior just0.69
00:30:48.380saying to 40 that like they somehow are now more insufferable than stockbrokers these crypto people
00:30:53.900yeah i just despise them how did you do that that's that's the real magic trick is how did
00:30:58.480you somehow become worse than early 2000 stockbrokers a stockbroker at least you imagine
00:31:05.400them in a corner office you like a patrick bateman type character every crypto guy is just streaming
00:31:10.940from his shitty room his his shelf with like funko pops and pieces of wood or something like
00:31:18.080and there's this feeling of superiority like we are the future and they have this morality to it
00:31:25.380It's like just because it's blockchain, it's necessarily anti-government and it's distributed and it's open source and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:31.600It's like, yeah, but what you're actually just doing is taking people's money because the people that you're trying to get are kids and dummies so that you can pump and dump and get rich and never have to work.
00:31:44.260Which is, again, the stockbrokers did the same thing, but at least they were honest about it.
00:44:15.940i was looking at um just a profile like a rapper i listen to and he's got an image of himself
00:44:22.920and it's like an image of a child's drawing of him it's like oh this is something my kid painted
00:44:29.380of me right it's a little kid's drawing he's like i'm gonna put that as my profile picture
00:44:33.420that to me annoys me can you imagine a ceo doing that can you imagine like a general doing that no
00:44:41.400you can enjoy your kids drawings but to say like oh my daughter's pain in my face and here's a0.86
00:44:46.440photo of me as my on my fucking resume this is what i'm putting out to her i'm like that to me0.94
00:44:50.780is an annoying characteristic and okay that guy i find that guy annoying that guy but do i hate0.93
00:44:59.500that guy i don't really encounter that guy if i do i find him annoying i roll my eyes but that's
00:45:04.680a group that i think is detrimental i think they're goofy they're corn balls yeah i don't
00:45:12.600need to wage a war on the worst thing and like we're here saying hey cut it out it's corny
00:45:17.200but it's not like they're not hurting anybody it's not really a big deal and the other thing
00:45:21.360you did just allude to they're a minority they're such a tiny tiny component of married men but you
00:45:28.700tend to get like you're getting all these memes where it's a meme mocking men who like drive their
00:45:33.900drive their kids to school or like a meme mocking men who like enjoy their wife's cooking
00:45:39.120like that's that's a lot of husbands so yeah i mean come on sorry let me put it this way that's
00:45:45.620good husbands that's actual like you're you are the guy who wants to criticize marriage as an
00:45:50.540institution and criticize women and so you find the guys who have happy marriages and you beat
00:45:55.180them up why the fuck is wrong with you you should the other way you're beating up the guys with bad
00:46:00.540marriages the wife jack meme it was always just something you find kind of like like a far side0.83
00:46:06.140comic i'd said to jason i said this all this meme shit is just our generation millennials0.61
00:46:11.800working our way to making far side comics like look here here's a good he's my dog does dumb
00:46:17.460things sometimes and you go yeah what are dogs thinking right or like yeah my wife says uh she
00:46:24.560sent me a long text about how she telling me the story about how she decided to buy a sweater you
00:46:30.080I tell you, they do that, but it's a chuckle, then you move on.0.59
00:46:36.020And then what wife guy became was just a guy with a wife.0.60
00:46:39.900Like, we got to do something about these wife guys.0.61
00:46:41.920These guys talking about that marriage is good or they're happy with their wives and stuff like that.
00:46:47.420I'm like, okay, well, like, what is wife guy then to these other people?0.99
00:46:51.160Now you have the vitalists and the bat people who think that marriage to any woman is longhouse,0.95
00:46:56.680that a relationship is matriarchal.1.00
00:47:00.080Then you got the red pill people who are like, well, you should not engage in marriage at all, especially due to legalistic reasons.
00:47:06.440And they have they have some points, actually, like that's the OG red pill argument that marriage puts you in a losing position no matter what.
00:47:14.260If you're a man like, OK, you know, there's there's a lot of multitudes to this.
00:47:19.460You see what I'm saying? But when I had kind of latched on was like what I really see is like guys pissed off at like half the husbands or the idea of you should have a wife.
00:57:58.160If this was your son, this harkens back to a question that we talked of many, many months ago, which is, what could your child do to make you disown them?
00:58:09.300I think every parent has a different answer to that.
00:58:12.260And fathers and mothers will have a different answer.
00:58:14.360now i my son i i would you know if he got caught you know but it's it is what it is
00:58:22.720you know but it's would you excommunicate your son would you say you're dead to me now
00:58:27.680right i i can't if he was a serial killer uh depends who you see what i'm saying
00:58:35.600yeah even if he did 9-11 i'd say you know what i want to read the manifesto there's two sides
00:58:41.860every story but so what what do you what are your feelings on that what about for your you
00:58:48.060have daughters but what do you think i love the bit i'm 100 there for the bit but i do want to
00:58:53.320be on record actually know any one of the things that he did if he were my son would be enough to
00:58:59.760disown him and i would never pardon him and all of those things together i think the guy should0.91
00:59:03.660be fucking executed i think he's an absolute piece of shit if you don't think it smoked crack you0.92
00:59:08.580would say you're no you're no child of mine yes no no but you know what if we're being serious0.93
00:59:13.020i don't think the issue here is that he smoked crack one time i think it's that he borrowed0.72
00:59:18.300millions of dollars from his government daddy to literally just smoke crack and fuck hookers
00:59:26.240for a decade that is not the same thing as oh my poor son smoked crack one time no
00:59:31.960you literally made it your life it's your personality and i've disowned people in my
00:59:36.580in my own family already for less so like no like that if you you like there's no separating hunter
00:59:42.780biden from crack and hookers he's mr crack and hookers there's nothing to him but that just
00:59:47.800it's over close the book on it he's crack hooker guy there's some people hear that and come away
00:59:53.400with the opposite impression i think that's a glowing endorsement of hunter look if my son did
00:59:59.720that okay what's let's repeat that for the folks so this is a man who stole millions of dollars
01:00:04.780and spend it on Kraken hookers for a decade.0.85
01:00:07.440Now, if that was my son, he'd get hit with a,
01:05:03.100And if you actually look at the story of how this was pushed through by various prime ministers and other government bureaucrats against public opinion polls at the time, and we went into the research and found people were polled pretty regularly over the course of the 20th century.
01:05:22.340like what are your feelings on immigration what types of immigrants do you want to see
01:05:26.020the public was very very clear that they were generally anti-immigration except from europe
01:05:31.220which wouldn't surprise any historians out there and how this was complete and how politicians were
01:05:36.660lying the entire time saying i hear you we don't want immigration either while clandestinely
01:05:42.100forwarding these policies by the so it actually stands as a very well researched piece showing
01:05:47.140you how within a very short amount of time canada pivoted and other countries can similarly pivot
01:05:54.020to completely rewrite their history and uh this video in particular i worked with censored or not
01:06:00.420from arbalist editing he's responsible for so much of the visuals it looks really really good i'm
01:06:05.380very pleased with how it came out i also worked with um a musician who's so fucking cool uh he
01:06:13.060reminds me a lot of apex twin he did the background music um if you know anything about apex twin like
01:06:18.520he this guy he works with he makes electronic music but he works with a lot of analog instruments
01:06:23.820and rigs and it's not just him sitting on fucking fruity loops all day coming up with
01:06:29.420beats and shit like he actually crafts these really impressive soundscapes and um you know0.79
01:06:35.880for projects like this anyone who's ever fuck anyone who's ever worked on anything will tell
01:06:40.880you there's that famous triad of good fast cheap you can pick two so we picked good and cheap
01:06:47.740so it wasn't fast we've been working on this for months making sure the soundtrack was good anyway
01:06:53.360it's out there and we're very very proud of it and i would love for this to be the first
01:06:59.120in a series of these we actually have a lot more plans um and i've been very happy with the
01:07:05.020feedback so far we got like 35 000 views just on x alone there's been a lot of uh talk of it in the
01:07:13.540national sphere a lot of coverage a lot of very very serious people have been looking at this
01:07:19.920which is exactly what i wanted i wanted to make something that you could show your parents show
01:07:25.620your you know if you were to stumble across this it would not seem like something that's affiliated
01:07:30.580with blood satellite which is why the blood satellite name is not on it right even though
01:07:35.020i narrate it in a perfect world i wouldn't even narrate it to find someone else to do it but
01:07:38.740i i had to do in a pitch but uh this is something we would like to do more of so if you can check
01:07:45.900it out at uh good suffer productions i'll check that out on youtube but it's also on rumble
01:07:50.900it's on x it's on telegram it's been circulating a lot of channels i think did you get a chance
01:07:57.040to watch it or no yeah i've watched it a couple times it's really good it was informative man i
01:08:01.900didn't know a lot of that and it like again i don't want to spoil anything go and watch it
01:08:05.680because i think for a lot of people you have an inkling of how this all panned out over the past
01:08:09.66070 years but it's really incredible and he has he has notes and quotes from prime ministers
01:08:15.240through the ages through the whole thing it's really really good yeah it's funny that um
01:08:20.240we wanted to have even more archival footage in it but the issue we ran into is that cbc
01:08:28.020owns all of that um and if you want access to the archival footage you gotta do a couple of
01:08:34.000things one you need to pay like a thousand dollars a minute it's something ridiculous it's something
01:08:39.700like two thousand for like 30 seconds something like that and then they also need to interview
01:08:44.300you and vet what you're using it for so they tell us about your project so i'm like well
01:08:49.520there's two things that we had planned for um going forward i would like to figure that part
01:08:56.460out to see if there's a way to to do that um seek out some proper investment to get this stuff
01:09:01.140covered but yeah if you want anything that's not just uploaded to youtube they really hold on to
01:09:07.160that i assume the bbc is the same way i assume national archives in america are like that too
01:09:12.260maybe not in america but any state broadcaster they're gonna rake you over the coals to get
01:09:17.800access to this shit that you fucking paid for that by the way this is this is our state cbc
01:09:22.960is our state broadcaster my taxes pay for them i don't i don't get just access the shit that i pay0.76
01:09:29.520for yeah yeah and it's funny because they're in they're in that scandal right now too because
01:09:35.080they laid off thousands of people increased all of the executive salaries and then they said ad
01:09:40.680revenue is down year over year like 50 nobody's watching them and then they had the gall to say
01:09:48.340yeah but online revenue is up 20 it's like yeah and what is that as a total of your total revenue
01:09:55.120it's like less than 10 like okay you like this is the pinnacle of baffle them with bullshit
01:10:01.080and nobody was buying it but i don't know cbc is such an embarrassment it should be shut down
01:10:06.520yeah also next point was this week this weekend by the time this episode goes live this weekend
01:10:14.260is the event we're having in toronto i'm going to be there uh for the sacks who we've had on
01:10:21.320the show before is going to be there john carter who we've had on the show is going to be there
01:10:24.580speaking both of them speaking dave the distributist is going to be there not the third
01:10:28.940person we had on the show is going to be speaking at the event we sold out of all the tickets we
01:10:34.520wanted to sell so i'm very happy with how that went it's the first time we've done something
01:10:40.040like this i've been directly involved in helping helping organize it with a couple other highly
01:10:46.540competent individuals um and so this is another thing i'd like to do more of in the future we'll
01:10:53.100see how it goes if i crash and burn maybe not if i crash and burn maybe this is the only time0.81
01:11:00.580maybe that's the last time you see me period maybe i'm fucking gone maybe i'm in the grave0.94
01:11:04.980but yeah um so if you want tickets uh too fucking bad i think0.94
01:11:12.380one other thing i made an appearance on uh guide to cultures the cameron film festival0.87
01:11:20.460names you'll be familiar with i've been on there what is it's one big fat sloppy movie corner
01:11:27.560if you like hearing me talk about movies
01:42:32.040Like if you want to include e-book downloads, I can't even imagine what it would be at now, but like 300,000 copies is a staggeringly high number for publishing without the aid of a commercial publisher.
01:42:47.880And books or distribution has been arguably the most infamous book of our time.
01:42:53.320and that's a lesson you know that some of us theory guys could take to heart which is you
01:42:58.900know at the end of the day maybe you should just write a pulp novella instead of that0.67
01:43:03.300fucking another book about nationalism or whatever um now and this is where it gets0.72
01:43:10.840interesting because we get into the oklahoma city bomb he says there was a departure from
01:43:14.320the underground sales pattern for a short period after all the attention the oklahoma bombing
01:43:18.700brought to the book a commercial publisher barricade press picked it up and this is relevant
01:43:23.580because um timothy mcveigh uh cited the turner diaries and had it on his uh i believe it just
01:43:31.580in his possession uh when he tried to when he did successfully blow up the world trade center
01:43:37.200and he talks about his reaction to the oklahoma city bombing here and uh i think he's trying to
01:43:42.880use his words carefully because he doesn't want to say that he endorses it and he endorses you
01:43:49.000know blowing up a government building but you can tell that he does he says uh i'll just read the
01:43:55.400segment here he says it took a while for enough facts to become public so i could start to figure
01:43:59.740out what happened i was watching the news one evening and there was the story about a huge
01:44:03.620bomb having destroyed a federal building in oklahoma city i figured that probably it was
01:44:08.120a terrorist bomb so i was very excited although although i've never spoken to mcveigh pierce
01:44:15.860continued i've had contact with his lawyer steve jones that was prior to mcveigh's trial jones
01:44:20.660needs some expert advice and i hope i helped him he was concerned that the government would attempt
01:44:25.360to show that the turner diaries gave mcveigh the plan for the bombing i believe he was inspired by
01:44:30.360the waco massacre that really pissed him off he even traveled down there what went on the turner
01:44:35.600diaries had nothing to do with what was apparently his intention and that was to send the government
01:44:40.280a message um he says so like he he goes at length of saying that he didn't talk directly to mcveigh
01:44:50.340there's some evidence that he did and there's some evidence that he has had more contact with
01:44:57.600these extremist groups um at the very least phone calls there's no transcripts as far as i know
01:45:03.520There's no FBI documentation on it, but to my mind, it would stand to reason that he did, because one thing he gets to in the book, if I don't get to it, I'll just say now, it's that the land that he lived on and built his compound on, that was gifted to him.
01:45:20.640He didn't buy that himself. That was just given to him by some wealthy benefactor, just some young guy who went to one of the National Alliance meetings. They met up at a nice meeting and then boom, he's got it fucking land in a compound. So you wonder how these things manifest. It's a few key individuals, I guess, operating out of the charity of their the spirit of race war, I guess.
01:45:47.360but um it's i think that's really the only way to do it it's not through revenue it's not through
01:45:54.580book sales or anything like that and uh and this he also goes into the spiritual nature
01:46:02.760like i was talking about before and this is this is where it loses me this is where i don't give
01:46:07.440a shit i don't i don't think you need to create your own religion to make something like this0.68
01:46:13.220effective in fact wacky i think that probably keeps some people away yeah but he goes that's
01:46:19.140about as bad as the as the nazi flags yeah that's if you're trying to appeal to the serious people
01:46:26.240you're talking about i think people are gonna look at that oh like this is a cult like i didn't think
01:46:30.900it was a cult before but once you start talking about oh once in a while we wear these robes and
01:46:36.360do weird rituals you've never heard of before that's like you said that's just like a swastika
01:46:41.880that's going to chase away some of the money that you probably want to get.
01:51:58.840So one eyewitness by the name of Zilla.
01:52:03.080Zilla says that the next day she saw Bob, Bob Matthews, pull out a large sum of money.
01:52:07.440She isn't sure how much in a paper bag.
01:52:10.420Pierce, she says, came to the hotel that they were staying at, and he and Bob went outside and sat on a bench nearby.
01:52:16.680Through the window, Zilla says she saw Bob give Pierce the paper bag.
01:52:20.880Jerry Dale, former county sheriff in Pocahontas County, was Virginia reports that shortly after the meeting with Matthews was said to have taken place, Pierce paid $95,000 cash for a 346 acre plot of land on which he now lives.
01:52:35.180So, the implication here is that, and he's never admitted to this, he will deny it, but Pierce got the money for his entire property from the Order, which had got that money through robbing armored cars and shooting pimps.
01:52:50.640So, depending on your character, you can land on a few different areas of that story.
02:06:16.760you got to keep women away from cats is what i'm coming to realize1.00
02:06:21.460i wish i would have learned that lesson a little earlier we got a few of them so0.69
02:06:26.660yeah you're you're you're fucked i mean you got it yeah i'm like penty lincoln when it comes to0.87
02:06:32.920this i'm like we got to throw them all in the river i uh i got um a friend of mine a younger0.97
02:06:40.260guy he's like 25 into uh lincoln and uh he was reading kaczynski he was talking about that i'm
02:06:46.300like you gotta you gotta go a little deeper man you gotta do link a lot he's coming back here he's
02:06:50.340like we gotta blow up highways man i finally get it dude yeah well link is fine because everywhere
02:06:55.480so much of his book is about how much he hates cats and because he's a because to me at least
02:07:01.560as an environmentalist i respect him because he's thought about it all the way to the bottom
02:07:06.160like if you're if you are an environmentalist you know i think a lot of us are in some sense
02:07:11.240about preserving the environment but like if you're if that's your ideology and you're taking
02:07:15.960it seriously you have to end up like him and then because he's like well we got to blow up all the
02:07:20.900planes there can't be planes anymore there can be like 20 cars in the country and uh we're going to
02:07:27.320rip up all the roads like he goes like tyler durden from fight club that's basically what he's
02:07:31.680advocating for and he goes into detail sort of in the sort of like neo-feudal lifestyle i'm like well
02:07:37.900I at least respect that because he's thought about it, you know, and but it kind of goes all the way around the other side by being so pro diversity.
02:07:47.580Because how do you define what the optimal level of ecological diversity is?
02:07:53.380And it's like, well, that's our job to promote as much diversity as possible.
02:07:56.740And like that's it gets really trippy once you get deep into it.
02:12:38.000And so I've never seen it just expressed in one piece like that. And then just by degrees, we decided, let's do an experiment. Let's do a proof of concept. Let's see if we can take this because I think just the content is so good. The stuff that I usually write is just too fucking weird. I get that. I'm old enough to understand that maybe some of the blood salad content isn't for everyone.
02:13:04.500But this was the first thing I saw like, you know what, this could actually be put in front of reasonable, serious people and move the needle a bit.
02:13:14.180So, John, I just wanted to maybe toss it to you.
02:13:18.060And you were so instrumental in helping craft the early stages of this as well.
02:13:24.660What inspired you to really start working on this project?
02:13:27.880Well, I think what was really cool about the basis of the article that that gentleman wrote was that it referred to sources that people were perhaps not familiar with.
02:13:39.400There were a couple of sources from Frida Hawkins, who is a very big writer in immigration.
02:13:44.380Her book's Canada and Immigration and then Critical Years in Immigration, Australia and Canada compared that Deshane had referred to a couple of times in Canada in Decay.
02:13:54.760But Canada and Decay, it's a great book.
02:13:56.200Obviously, I'm sure most people are at least familiar with it here.
02:13:59.500Talked a lot about the history of immigration in Canada and then some of the philosophical
02:14:03.460things behind the changes in immigration, but not really the nitty gritty of the bureaucratic
02:14:15.500And then perhaps more importantly, there was a book that was referred to a lot, which is
02:14:20.240The Least Possible Fuss in Publicity by Paul A. Evans. And that was a book that specifically
02:14:25.520covered decisions that were made by instrumental people in the Canadian government from 1945 to
02:14:32.2601967. And that was a book that I was not familiar with at all. And it was just such a specific thing
02:14:39.140for this guy to have researched. And it really made things, I think, easy. Because when we tried
02:14:45.520kind of expand on the research and do the video i mean paul evans just lists out here's the person
02:14:50.400who did it they were ideologically motivated they wrote about it it's obvious and um just before i
02:14:56.640wrap this uh comment up it's important to note i think that hawkins and evans were pro-immigration
02:15:02.800you know they weren't conspiracy theorists or right-wing or even conservative these are people
02:15:07.200who lauded the politicians and the bureaucrats who made these decisions in opposition to public
02:15:13.760sentiment. And they were proud of it. And these writers are proud to say that these politicians
02:15:19.180were proud of it. So that was quite interesting to me. That is fascinating. And oftentimes,
02:15:24.500you can just make a case by quoting your opponents if you take the time to read their
02:15:30.880writings. And I think that's one barrier that I've encountered, which is that I'm always trying to
02:15:35.280figure out what the best Canadiana books are, nonfiction books, because there's a lot. There's
02:15:41.860a lot that's published about the history of canada and the canadian people you never know where to
02:15:45.700begin and so you're always out there looking for what's the based book what's the dissident book
02:15:51.420but i think there's a lot of if you have the time you have the curiosity it might even be better to
02:15:57.240read the history of just the shit libs you know read the people who are very proud of what they
02:16:03.720did to make Canada post nation state. And, um, I wonder like what, what got you into the direction
02:16:12.660of these books? Now, is this just, you're, you're generally a reader or kind of how did these books
02:16:18.240fall into your lap? Well, these books, I mean, we, we just basically took the reading list, um,
02:16:23.760that the author who wrote the original article had, right. Cause you, um, still had access to
02:16:29.080the draft with like the bibliography and all the references and stuff. So for us, I think it was
02:16:33.340pretty easy to just build on that reading list and kind of go into the books i ended up buying
02:16:36.940the books myself i mean i have them sitting in front of me right now and then we just kind of
02:16:40.620dove into everything um i think one thing that we found from you know the article to the video is
02:16:46.940that when you and i started looking into sources like looking through archival cbc footage i mean
02:16:51.500that the stuff that we could get we had some trouble getting as deep as we would have liked
02:16:55.340um there were additional questions that were raised so we would find a clip of you know robert
02:17:00.240address saying something about immigration in 1974 and that would spur us to then dive back
02:17:04.660into these books or find associated articles to expand on that point so that we could have a
02:17:10.080cohesive narrative that linked the clips to um the article which was the basis that we were
02:17:15.140we were working with initially so yeah i discussed this on the latest episode of blood satellite i
02:17:21.640was talking just kind of announcing this hey i have a question yeah sure
02:17:27.200yeah go ahead am i still there yeah yeah i can hear you
02:17:33.560i you might want to make you still there dimes yeah i can hear you other people can hear me right
02:17:41.160yeah i can hear you dimes i can hear everyone i can hear both i can't hear dimes oh you can hear
02:17:47.680me okay yeah i can hear eugene john whatever your name is that's weird i can't hear dimes
02:17:55.560is he out uh i think maybe just try asking the question i guess is the question directed to me
02:18:00.560or both of us it's a it's directed to canadians i'm i'm not canadian i've been to canada once
02:18:06.020and i want to know who is the first i've seen this on 4chan over the years who's the first
02:18:12.420person to really say canada was a post-national state in my mind it was um justin trudeau
02:18:22.760that's the first time i had heard it and saying where did that come from just wait dimes he can't
02:18:27.660hear you though i know he can't hear your answer i can't hear dimes he's not showing up dimes do
02:18:35.760you want me to answer then yeah you you go ahead it was coined by uh by justin trudeau i think in
02:18:41.7202015 probably around when it was it was yeah it was true in the current year in the current year
02:18:48.380Yeah, that would be right. Yes. Although the thing is, he was building on something that his father did in the 60s because Trudeau Sr. had the concept of the just society. And to kind of understand the just society, you have to understand who Pierre Trudeau was. So that's, again, that's Justin Trudeau's father.
02:19:06.880So Pierre Trudeau in his youth was a Quebecois nationalist, but he was actually a Quebecois nationalist to the point where, and John English writes about this in the first volume of his two-part biography about Pierre Trudeau.
02:19:20.340The first part is called Citizen of the World, but he was such a Quebecois nationalist that he wrote a play called Le Dupes, which was making fun of Quebecois that bought from Jews instead of fellow Quebecers.
02:19:31.160He was president at various anti-immigration protests, and they would have been protesting primarily Jewish immigration into Montreal at the time.
02:19:39.020But then he went to Harvard. He read a book called Behemoth. He was tutored by various Jewish professors.
02:19:44.220He then went to France after that. So this is post-war Paris, which was infiltrated by communists.
02:19:52.000He became infatuated with Freudianism. And then he was finally tutored one-on-one by, goodness, I believe the guy's name was Harold Lasky at the London School of Economics.
02:20:03.880And Harold Lasky was like a Stalinist Jew. So he basically came back to Canada after all that.0.75
02:20:08.960He traveled the world and then came back again and came up with this whole, you know, the multiculturalism, the Canada that we basically kind of switched everything around.
02:20:19.560Right. So he started Canada on this whole, I guess, quote, unquote, progressive slant that you see now.
02:20:25.720Now, in the short film, we talk about immigration and how the machinations of prime ministers before him led to influxes of non-whites.0.95
02:20:32.900But in terms of the total political transformation of Canada, that would have been a Pierre Trudeau thing.0.98
02:32:10.640Do you know where I actually start is I look for pictures of the people and then I click on the picture and find where that article comes from.
02:32:20.020And generally it's either like the Canadian encyclopedia, Canadian websites or archives.
02:32:25.980And yeah, actually, believe it or not.
02:32:28.460And then when you look at certain documents, then it'll take you somewhere else and you look for that.
02:32:33.040And it's kind of the clues that you're looking for.
02:32:34.880yeah that's the stuff i want to get deeper into as well because you know like i said i'm as guilty
02:32:42.420as anyone i would spend a lot of time really go off into weird esoteric shit my curiosity leads0.91
02:32:47.140me to some retarded places but uh over time like we did we covered you know lament for a nation0.92
02:32:52.680we've covered you know ricardo duchane's dr duchane's work as well canon decay we covered0.82
02:32:58.240not faustian man in a multicultural age that's his first book that might be more interesting
02:33:04.760even i just haven't covered that yet but i'm interested in also finding more people like
02:33:09.240dr deshane who we quoted in this short video um and i had a i had a scheme last year because like
02:33:17.400i said we're doing an event this saturday in toronto but i wanted to do more events in the
02:33:23.240future and i had this one design for one that would try and get together for lack of a better
02:33:28.840term sort of distant academics people like dr deshane who are maybe they're not content creators
02:33:35.720they're not fame hungry they're not spurgs like me but maybe they publish some very interesting
02:33:41.960stuff that's adjacent to his and maybe they just it would help to get them together because you
02:33:47.240know when i think of events that have been held in canada in the past i think there's an interesting
02:33:52.040one recently with survive the jive over there on the west coast a couple guys i know helped
02:33:56.600to organize that but other than that there's like a big one where it's like lauren southern and
02:34:02.360dr fucking drew and like just a bunch of random shit there's just not a lot of events that are
02:34:06.920trying to pull together the types of people from different sectors that we might find interesting0.85
02:34:12.360so that was one but i'm trying to get a lead on who the fans will be we uh did our tour going
02:34:17.500across the country this summer and uh we didn't get it together but dushane was talking about
02:34:22.500coming out and speaking at our last event but there's so much going on and we didn't get it
02:34:26.360together but i know what you're talking about putting together some sort of i've got a few
02:34:30.600ideas myself i don't want to give them away but i'm trying to get a hold of some people that i
02:34:35.360think would be some of the best conversations in canada well i'd love to hear more about that at
02:34:40.340some point because uh yeah i'm starting to learn more and more that you're on the i we spoke on
02:34:45.840our show fairly recently just because i'm a fan of your content but i know you were so on uh cresting
02:34:50.900the same wave as we are so that's good to hear um but yeah like there's there's there's guys out
02:34:55.960there who are like dr deshane there's a a powerful nationalist surge in canada and i just i think it's
02:35:02.720uncoordinated i think there's a lot of people looking for and that's why maybe that road rage
02:35:08.000tour that you just went on um i thought i was watching that closely like all the people that
02:35:13.020were drawn into that simply because what else is going on that's like that nothing as far as i can
02:35:19.760tell and yeah there was a lot of people that came out that said they'd been inside for the past two
02:35:24.260years because they didn't want to go anywhere they didn't want to go to the restaurants that
02:35:27.400were going to force them to wear masks or movie theaters with you know a pile of jeets that are
02:35:32.760standing there and stuff so yeah it was nice we had we had some crowds that were bigger than i
02:35:38.800expected actually i see jeremy's in listening right now i don't know if you follow him or not
02:35:43.140but uh oh of course yeah we had uh we had him on the show i thought i followed i think maybe this
02:35:49.080a different account because i thought i was following him i mean it was just a different
02:35:51.880raging dissident but yeah staying he could speak actually jeremy if you unmute yourself
02:35:59.000yeah let me make sure that you are at it i'm following you so you can you should be able to
02:36:03.240jump in uh whenever you want um but yeah yeah i'm a big fan of uh raging dissidents um and the
02:36:11.480entire diagonal movement so and i've gotten a lot of love for this short film from the diagonal
02:36:18.120movement and i've been very happy to see that as well because they were one of the primary
02:36:21.720demographics i had in mind for who would respond well to this so it's great to see that that
02:36:26.540happened yeah yeah there is it uh we like seeing it ourselves because for a while it feels like
02:36:34.580we're the only ones doing this kind of content and it's not out to me this is fucking low-hanging
02:36:41.220fruit and because of the positive response to this one we've got two or three others that we
02:36:47.580want to do um and we've got them sketched out already and for these ones i think we would like
02:36:54.160to pursue some kind of financing because as we mentioned before um very briefly that one of the
02:36:59.160roblox we ran into was trying to get archival footage right yeah so you'd think that documentaries
02:37:05.960get expensive when you have to go out and film footage and conduct the interviews and set the
02:37:10.560lights and everything it is well i mean this is something we've been working on as well this is
02:37:15.740kind of why we have the grift shop and why we sell merchandise we put it back into making videos
02:37:20.540and trying to finance editors and stuff like that maybe at some point we'll talk later we don't have
02:37:25.580to do it in front of everybody we could work on some kind of a deal because we have a few ideas
02:37:29.200but we need editors that that would be we'll talk about that in dms too because i like where you're
02:37:35.740going with that i was also going to say that you think that would be the expensive part but what's
02:37:39.540even more expensive if you're thinking oh i'm going to do this cheap i'm going to just pull
02:37:44.040from archival footage and have to go to the cbc i should get access to that because my tax dollars
02:37:50.200pay for that right well fuck you so first of all they want crazy john what was it what was the
02:37:57.540number it was like a thousand dollars for 30 seconds it was something it was yeah it was like0.90
02:38:01.960a hundred a second or something like i'm thinking i'm trying to remember but there was like yeah some
02:38:05.620obvious time denomination whether it was one second 15 or 30 seconds and then something with
02:38:11.080one in a bunch of zeros i can't remember i was doing there's some lengths you have to go to
02:38:15.880sometimes like i was doing a piece on webo ludwig and to find this crappy movie that made by the cbc
02:38:22.680i can either go to the government and get it for like 300 bucks or i looked on ebay and i found it0.51
02:38:28.440in sweden for 13 euros i'm like i'm giving it a shot so i bought the one in fucking sweden for
02:38:35.88013 euros and i had to find a dvd player that still worked and watch it in english subtitles but i0.71
02:38:42.840still got it got to watch it and i don't just sound like the old chunk of coal racist libertarian
02:38:49.960that i am but i'm like i want to go to them and say i paid for this this is mine my tax dollars
02:38:55.560paid for this you have to give it to me you can't make me pay more it's like it's not a
02:39:00.840to interview you they don't want you to see the arguments that were had over these issues like
02:39:05.600yeah well that's why they interview you they'll ask you and say you must tell us what this is for
02:39:11.380what do you want to use this this archival footage for and they reserve the right i believe this is
02:39:16.300in the fine print to rescind it at any time so if they don't like the final product that means you
02:39:21.100don't live in a free society yeah it's just like i'm just quoting you am i allowed to quote you
02:39:27.240like this is ridiculous so that's why i'm like i don't even want to i think that's something that
02:39:31.300can help people wake up to the state's power like people completely understood that they would ban
02:39:35.880rt television in canada because well that's a state broadcaster from russia what the fuck do
02:39:41.520you think the cbc is that's our state broadcaster and the fact that they're going to withhold
02:39:46.840information from the public when we pay for it it's just so ridiculous the funny thing is that
02:39:53.700more people are aware of rt just because they like rt in canada it's easy to forget that the cbc
02:40:00.460fucking exists that not i've been most people under space don't really watch the cbc i do because
02:40:05.620i have to source headlines for content but i'm like people are always talking about rt because
02:40:10.420i think more people actually like rt than anyone likes the cbc i don't think i've ever paid for
02:40:15.900canadian television we had a satellite as a kid i stole cable from like 18 years old to like
02:40:23.680i don't know 28 or something like that after that i gave up on tv it was just i got fond memories
02:40:30.940of much music i really liked speakers corner yeah like there was some original stuff there
02:40:37.920some people made a big off speakers corner we we've also produced some of the worst tv
02:40:43.660that's ever been made like everyone likes to talk about the good stuff everyone likes kenny0.55
02:40:48.380versus benny everyone likes trailer park boys but you're a fucking liar if you liked kevin0.96
02:40:53.140spencer you're a fucking liar if if people don't know what i'm talking about yeah exactly it was0.98
02:40:58.740like we decided to do our own south park and it was like south park meets that show shameless0.93
02:41:04.020we did i remember watching it a lot as a team i'm like and i would always watch it because it
02:41:09.000was always on and like i hate this but i just kept watching it we did little mosque on the prairie
02:41:14.220heard that was a hit littlest littlest hobo is canadian little mosque on the prairie i always
02:41:21.580heard that brought up as a joke like can you believe they made that show and he'd laugh0.92
02:41:25.360and then he'd check it and went for nine fucking seasons it's like corner gas who the fuck was0.87
02:41:30.160watching that i couldn't believe that was actually a show giving people awards for it and shit like0.93
02:41:35.080there is separate communities in canada that people don't realize because you don't go you're
02:41:39.920not part of that community there's like a chinese colony not even a community there's a chinese
02:41:45.120colony in uh in toronto i guess it's called markham and there's a sikh colony in brampton
02:41:51.560that's been invaded by hindus i'm surprised they haven't had a clash there yet but we have
02:41:56.940different colonies and it was the same forever when the italians first came when the portuguese
02:42:00.600first came the other little colonies and areas they amalgamated a lot better into the canadian
02:42:05.520public but i mean there people don't it's not a melting pot like they thought it was the majority
02:42:13.660of our our immigration came from you know those the main four on the red ensign and a lot of it
02:42:20.720was in-house like you mentioned in this documentary you know they would they never referenced the
02:42:24.820population booms that were done natally and if that was a great point in the original article
02:42:31.380that i always like to bring people back to like prior there were population booms prior to
02:42:37.720migration in fact every single population boom prior was done internally uh i've got one the
02:42:44.340baby boom that one that we can't stop complaining about but still like this is actually the first
02:42:50.440time in history i'd say that the the immigration boom is bigger than what the baby boom has been
02:42:57.200in the past per capita which which is why they need to craft this narrative that well this is
02:43:03.100how it's always been we've always had migrants to fill in the gaps it's like no actually
02:43:06.700by by preventing that you promoted internal reproduction and that seems to logically track
02:43:14.760like you you shouldn't need to cite historical sources to to just intuit that that makes sense
02:43:22.000regular people should get that if you explain that to your parents oh yeah they would get that they'd
02:43:25.820just been so propagandized that never occurred to them right it was always a fight for every group
02:43:30.800that came here the Sikhs that did fight for the British Empire weren't even allowed to come here0.54
02:43:35.720with their wives and children they came here as laborers and that's all they were and you can find
02:43:41.240literature to say that they made better laborers than the other class of migrants that were coming
02:43:45.680here so we were using them but even they could bring their families to the United States to the1.00
02:43:51.560British Isles and to India but not here we were strict about it we don't want them settling0.98
02:43:55.940there was the head for the chinese as well like we were treating them the same way
02:44:00.600and the japanese this has always been a thing yeah i was gonna say fortisax he was on a live
02:44:07.660stream with me a couple weeks ago and we were discussing just this topic and it was topic of
02:44:12.940the um i believe the asian exclusion act and we and and in forcex if you'd like to jump in here
02:44:18.100feel free but we were kind of laughing about when you hear asian exclusion act or south asian you
02:44:22.500You think, oh, this was about the Chinese.
02:44:25.300But it was almost exclusively about Indians.
02:44:27.920I don't know if I can add pictures to the comments here,
02:44:30.340but I found great cartoons from that era
02:44:32.620that I would like to put up in the nest.
03:00:35.460i'm showing my telling you my age i'm 1979 is when i was born when i went through the school1.00
03:00:41.160system we didn't know the difference between an indian and a paki like they were all paki's that's1.00
03:00:46.820what we called them all like we had no reason to understand what was going on in the middle east1.00
03:00:51.180and then all of a sudden we get flooded with these people like that was not in our school system i
03:00:55.880remember i was going to school when they took the lord's prayer out we still had to say that in
03:00:59.800school when i was there we were very much religious religious centric country too
03:01:05.580despite the way we may have come out of it now i remember this whole multiculturalism
03:01:11.940really taken off as because i grew up in georgetown it's probably the last city that's
03:01:18.220not connected to or the last town not connected to the gta i even remember them saying if you
03:01:24.480sell to an indian person you'll never sell real estate in georgetown again and it is just
03:01:29.660exploded to the point where it's on the back door of georgetown the the expansion so much1.00
03:01:36.060it's it's actually an invasion when you look at the 2015 election results and you see how many
03:01:42.720extra uh areas were added after that because of the population growth in certain areas they're
03:01:50.440putting up condos and well there's more people than they need more representation and then they
03:01:54.600just run these people that nobody's ever heard of but they're the same color as everybody in that0.98
03:01:58.880area and it was basically just diluting our fucking parliament right in front of us you know0.99
03:02:05.660i do wonder if the general public is ready to finally just spew the multiculturalism you know
03:02:14.040talking point from their mouth by which i mean the opening of this short view you know we have
03:02:18.880polyev we have all these politicians saying diversity is our strength we need diversity
03:02:23.100we need immigration and it's just a thing you say and you almost detect that there's no real
03:02:28.240intellect or passion behind it that's just the thing you're supposed to say yeah i think there's
03:02:32.880enough people who are beginning the question like why do i say this i actually don't believe this
03:02:38.620does anyone believe quebec has the best best history against multiculturalism because they
03:02:44.580tried to uh they tried to withstand biculturalism can you guys hear me is this thing yes okay okay
03:02:54.220i don't think it was working before i was fucking around with it sorry thanks for uh yeah thanks
03:02:57.780to invite i was um i just kind of popped in there at that when you mentioned it i had no idea what
03:03:02.620you guys were talking about so i was just kind of you know quietly listening there i appreciate the
03:03:05.800kind words and so on um yeah carry on i just wanted to i was trying to chime in what did
03:03:12.260you say it was uh hockey uh tim hortons and what we were talking about the uh but you said weed
03:03:18.740it was like basically uh you know that's the element of what what is a canadian it's like
03:03:22.500it's basically corporate products it's some very surface level shit that nobody needs to think too
03:03:27.120hard about which is what we love to do most apparently and uh yeah that was it and that was
03:03:31.400i can't remember uh where i was but i remember sitting thinking going like okay what else though
03:03:36.340like what's what's after that like actually thought about it i'm like wow i don't know and
03:03:40.500that's interesting that's a problem and i think that's a lot of people's again just use a word i
03:03:46.200hate red pilling moment which is when they ask themselves wait is my entire identity just this
03:03:52.180coffee chain that i don't even really like and their menu doesn't make any sense month by month0.95
03:03:58.980what else how much is that identity even worth if somebody from india well you can't get a country
03:04:04.500more different than canada than india like it's as different as you'll find anywhere on earth and
03:04:09.300they can just show up and throw a costume out there they're you now okay so my identity is
03:04:14.180meaning it's a t-shirt all those guys died at bimmy ridge for a t-shirt is that what we're saying
03:04:20.180like let's just have the conversation then just say it like i would love to get in a situation
03:04:25.060where i could force like a long form uh like converse like like this like we're doing now
03:04:30.900without like any of them oh yeah any of them and just be like no no define it for me say it i say
03:04:36.900it like they'll just talk in circles and they're always protected by the media well this country
03:04:41.620would benefit so much for a modern speaker's corner where you can have these real conversations
03:04:46.580on a national stage not controlled by fucking jordan peterson or the cbc well they would get
03:04:51.780blown the fuck out that's what like if it's like uh well derek knows he used to fight right it's0.53
03:04:55.800like watching a guy like dude you're you just with your hands down anybody who knows what they're
03:04:58.960doing will murder you but well a good example a good example is watching lauren southern go into
03:05:05.820the to get questioned there that was just wow she ate them alive why would i even care it's crazy
03:05:12.940i remember watching that too like how is this how is this an actual investigatory committee like
03:05:18.140this is this is a clown show yeah if there's one thing i can just jump in and say jeremy you made
03:05:22.900a really good point there about um i just want to mention this that i think one thing that canada
03:05:28.460has going for it that maybe even america doesn't is that canadians despite everything we've just
03:05:33.820said i don't think they've been taught to be ashamed of themselves and their history as much
03:05:39.340as americans meaning that i still detect even amongst liberals a very strong nationalist pride
03:05:46.500when it comes to the military when it comes to maybe not the modern military but they speak very
03:05:51.380glowingly of our our warrior spirit up and maybe up until at least the second world war but you
03:05:57.820still detect that you still detect that they're not ashamed of that stuff so i'm like you can
03:06:03.880build on that you can build on this as you know fake as it might seem at times i do think there's
03:06:09.400like a strong vein of patriotism that runs through canadians because that hasn't been attacked from
03:06:15.040so many angles as much so you can kind of get down into that drill into that and maybe build that up
03:06:22.860no i think you're right and what i would say is that this is this was the subversion of the
03:06:28.920of the liberal era's nationalism like that's a consequence of trudeau merging left liberalism
03:06:36.120with patriotism as a country so there is a patriotic streak in them they didn't they didn't
03:06:40.880destroy that they just twisted it um you you talk to leftists even today what's fascinating is
03:06:46.680in all of this discourse about annexation and republicanism uh it's mostly the far
03:06:52.940right and the liberals who are in favor of not doing it yeah that's a good point
03:06:58.920And you know what? Even amongst certain liberals, I see acceptance of the Quebecois model, because the Quebecois model is as close as you can get to an ethnostate.
03:07:09.480As much as they're allowed to. And so they're like, OK, that's cool, though. I like that.
03:07:12.900It's like, OK, so now we have a conversation.
03:07:15.660I think it's an understandable sentiment for the grade four conservative, the people that are watching Steven Crowder and they're kind of introduced. They haven't gone to the threshold of, you know, questioning the white identity or who's bringing these people here, where the money's coming from. They're still stuck in the back and forth of the wrestling style politics.
03:07:36.140and you know what i always try and keep that in mind and we mentioned jordan peterson and of
03:07:41.320course everyone's got their opinions on jordan peterson but i always look at him still as an
03:07:45.620inlet that every at least when he first came out when he first came out he was saying some wild
03:07:51.120stuff he's gotten weirder with age but right when he was a bit more incensored i think he did jail
03:07:56.540break some people from the mainstream consensus and so there's a lot of people that i don't really
03:08:01.000have time for i don't really you know i think i think actually raging distance is probably the
03:08:05.960most mainstream-esque show that i watch you know regularly everything everything else like i don't
03:08:13.000watch but there's people who do that kind of travel along that pipeline and eventually end
03:08:18.660up with us and then we're kind of waiting for them but you know i think we do need to be there
03:08:23.160to welcome them but i try not to talk even the people that i don't like very much but i'm like