Blood Satellite - From Clown World to Slop World into Huh World

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be a

00:00:07.840 blood satellite my daughter had her baptism this last weekend buddy she got soaked she did she

00:00:26.060 loved it she loved what did you just uncork

00:00:29.980 goodram and warts what in the world yeah pal it's got a real cork on it it's the the distillery

00:00:41.680 one i was telling you about last time between the last stream and now i've almost finished the

00:00:46.460 bottle okay so what is it's a whiskey or some what is it oh yeah no it's just uh it's just a

00:00:52.800 blend what is it it's uh it's green whiskey but it's got a lot of rye in it so it's kind of a

00:00:58.120 kind of a it's canadian i love it i love that they don't have a better name for it either

00:01:02.480 i i mean look every i looked at when i was doing whiskey stuff in hong kong they call

00:01:08.780 rye canadian whiskey yeah that's how i would call it yeah yeah like because that's why i like

00:01:14.440 there's so much we are a wash in rye over here and it's a good working man's drink and uh right

00:01:21.540 before i stopped drinking i was getting into the bourbon i like bourbon it feels it feels like a

00:01:28.080 cocktail it's a bit too sweet it's a bit too easy that back back when i was really getting into it

00:01:34.440 they had this whiskey that was an absolute menace it was um it was burnt torched toffee flavored and

00:01:43.180 i want to say it was wisers or something and it was uh i think 56 it's like something like really

00:01:53.620 like a high alcohol content but with the flavor it didn't taste like it because if you have

00:01:58.820 something like crack and rum which is like getting close to like 48 it's still like a gut punch

00:02:07.180 like it tastes like it's a high alcohol

00:02:09.620 this tasted like a

00:02:11.680 liqueur and you

00:02:13.700 can do some damage with this

00:02:15.240 to me it's the sugar I don't

00:02:17.680 know if that's true but I find stuff

00:02:19.220 punches above its weight when it's got a lot of sugar

00:02:21.760 in it you don't really notice what's going on

00:02:23.680 something that's like over 50% and you're

00:02:25.640 just sipping it like a maniac

00:02:27.520 yeah

00:02:28.960 you know for me at

00:02:31.620 the level I was drinking it's all alcohol

00:02:33.740 content and you're just on

00:02:35.640 the way to moonshine i took these higher ones off and i think it's because it was guys like me buying

00:02:42.420 it they wanted cool college girls buying it and it was just degenerate men it's a bunch of

00:02:49.880 alcoholics like i'll take two you got the plastic bottle it's tasty it's real tasty and sweet i love

00:02:57.940 it tastes like torch toffee with like such a specific flavor to it so a couple things that

00:03:05.880 we got to get to uh you probably thought i was going to talk about my daughter's baptism

00:03:10.940 it's yeah there you go all right i wanted to talk about rum i wanted to talk about whiskey

00:03:21.960 hell yeah buddy no it was fun it was funny though was uh nichols was not loving it though

00:03:29.560 he's uh he's not only he's not three yet he's on the way to three years old and over the past few

00:03:37.640 months and i'm telling i'm telling people things that they know even if they just abstractly

00:03:43.160 understand what a child is but he's at an age where he's beginning to challenge authority

00:03:49.720 or establish what authority is yeah or like you know arranging the building blocks of his

00:03:57.840 relationship with the world they're trying to communicate in a way where it's not just boring

00:04:02.160 i was talking about this in the community some community the other day where uh one of the guys

00:04:07.720 was saying like you know there's a lot of dads in here don't talk about their kids and i'd said

00:04:11.920 i remember what it's like being single and i remember hearing people talk about their kids

00:04:17.120 and i can tell it means a lot to them but this means nothing to me and like i see you're very

00:04:24.360 excited telling me about he just knew had to make a turkey with his hand and i think okay

00:04:30.180 yeah nigga these things really fascinate me where i got to witness him step by step

00:04:37.600 understand what a store is but that presented a lot of new challenges like for example so

00:04:44.340 sometimes we would take him to a toy store when he was very very young just for something to do

00:04:49.080 sometimes just because he oh look toys cool and you can kill some time in a toy store

00:04:54.520 and then we didn't go a lot but we would only go to a toy store when we had the intention of

00:05:01.440 buying a toy so then he started to learn oh every time i go to a toy store we leave with a toy that's

00:05:08.580 what a toy store is for and then we just started going to the toy store just to look around which

00:05:12.660 is stupid what i remember doing that as a kid i remember my mom saying like we'll go to toys r us

00:05:18.560 and we'll just look around i remember being old enough to think why why why do i want to look

00:05:24.320 i don't want to just frustrate myself by seeing things i can't buy it's whatever well you go but

00:05:31.720 then i got to see him understand that oh this isn't just a place like uh you know a park or

00:05:39.380 he doesn't go to daycare but we take him to this place called early on which is like a play group

00:05:43.560 for parents oh yeah but for the people who don't know it's like just a big it's like a big daycare

00:05:49.260 but you need to be there it's just a place to hang out yeah so it's a it's a free public daycare it's

00:05:54.740 also great for them to meet make friends and you get to meet other parents too so he's not in daycare

00:05:58.720 so this is how he meets kids and that's how we've met other parents that we are friendly with but

00:06:05.380 nickels does not like their kids so but even his birthday's coming up and my wife's like should we

00:06:11.800 invite his friends so and so and what's this face it's it's your friend i'm like no i like the dad

00:06:18.060 it's like i get along with them but i'm like yeah this is his birthday he doesn't like these

00:06:22.680 motherfuckers i know he doesn't we've been trying for a year and a half and it's just not taking

00:06:28.320 but um i got to watch him slowly understand that oh you pick out a toy and and i had to explain

00:06:36.940 to him like no we can take it home but we need to buy it first and then so he would grab it and he

00:06:42.420 would run to the cash and this was like a while ago but he's like he's understanding that here's

00:06:46.960 the process you get a toy take it to this person and then you get to take it home he doesn't

00:06:53.100 understand what money is yet of course but he understands that i can see him trying to manipulate

00:06:59.000 and strategize where he'll pick up a toy and he'll start inching now towards where he knows the cash

00:07:05.040 is because he knows the route there like you go to walmart toys rest it's a big fucking place but

00:07:09.840 he's got it mapped out it's like here's here's the process you do so i can leave with this and

00:07:14.700 he'll just say let's take it home and i say we can't can't today and he's saying why almost like

00:07:21.580 why are we here then? I'm like, I don't know.

00:07:23.560 I don't know why we're doing this.

00:07:26.360 Ask your mother.

00:07:27.400 Don't think that far ahead.

00:07:30.340 I'm all fucked up

00:07:31.540 though. Can I tell you something?

00:07:34.960 Maybe I

00:07:35.560 should have put my foot down.

00:07:37.280 I should have had my house in order

00:07:39.020 and I clearly do not have my house

00:07:41.360 in order. He really

00:07:43.220 wanted a Black Panther

00:07:45.220 action figure. Oh no.

00:07:48.520 Oh no.

00:07:49.140 Here's the thing. If I may.

00:07:51.580 he does not know he's african what what he knows is spider-man and he's never watched a spider-man

00:07:59.620 cartoon he's never seen a spider-man movie a comic book didn't know nothing about spider-man but

00:08:04.220 i've heard this before from people there's something about that combination of colors

00:08:10.660 and that costume where when kids see it it's it electrifies them like he was just drawn to it

00:08:17.940 just wanted a spider-man right so he got like a spider-man toy or something um and just thinks

00:08:24.220 it's cool and he'll say spider-man and like you don't he doesn't know what the powers are he just

00:08:29.000 knows it's this cool guy um and then so black panther just looks like another spider-man

00:08:35.420 like if he didn't know what it was he'd be like oh he's like like a dark like and what's funny is

00:08:41.640 again i'm just i'm going off on this and i know i shouldn't but i don't know how he learned what

00:08:48.220 a good guy and a bad guy is but at some point in watching whatever show that we're doing

00:08:55.100 he'll look at something that's scary and go bad guy and i say well what do you do to bad guys

00:09:01.580 fight bad guys and then we do we make like punching motions and again i don't know that's

00:09:08.200 just like a thing he kind of learned as a boy i guess like he just wants to beat up monsters and

00:09:14.160 bad guys but in with a black panther with black panther bad guy and i have to be like yes but

00:09:23.380 don't don't say that maybe not for the same reasons but yeah okay i'm like technically

00:09:30.200 you know what technically yes not always look like a bad guy he is bad and and i'm trying not

00:09:38.080 to introduce all this

00:09:40.180 racism at an early age, but

00:09:41.640 okay, you like him because he's

00:09:44.080 evil. Okay.

00:09:46.260 We're still on track.

00:09:48.440 You like this

00:09:49.940 African king for the same reason

00:09:51.960 you like a barfing dinosaur.

00:09:54.780 Or you like...

00:09:55.700 He likes Halloween now.

00:09:57.880 Okay, so you like

00:09:59.040 Africans like you like

00:10:01.780 ghouls and devils and

00:10:03.900 chattering skeletons. Okay.

00:10:06.480 I think we're in the clear.

00:10:08.080 i think we got it

00:10:11.760 i noticed that i talk about my son too much on the show i don't think you talk about your

00:10:18.240 daughters as much so i i opened the floor to you oh they're old man they're so old

00:10:23.680 what are those gals up to oh they're fine we got um dance lessons we got we did you know what we're

00:10:31.260 doing pokemon i know you're doing you're doing pokemon we're doing the pokemon i i don't know

00:10:38.200 if you had pokemon cards as a kid i didn't they still do them in school they still have pokemon

00:10:43.040 cards you had got into i don't know how i got hooked into this algorithm but i was just being

00:10:50.300 served these shorts and these videos of comic book conventions and these dealers and vendors there

00:10:57.840 And it's just videos of irredeemable nerds going up to these vendors and haggling over the cards and finding the stories of these cards.

00:11:09.340 And you're looking at, oh, this is a first run, whatever the fuck it might be, $7,000 for the types of Pokemon pack that we would have gotten in grade five.

00:11:19.900 For like two bucks at the dollar store, yeah.

00:11:22.540 But you're seeing this whole new ecosystem where you've got these nerds, just these absolute fucking bags of slop coming in.

00:11:34.040 But this is their space.

00:11:35.820 This is their kingdom.

00:11:37.240 Yeah.

00:11:37.680 They come in with a swagger.

00:11:40.200 You know what I mean?

00:11:40.600 And they're telling the most autistic jokes you've ever heard.

00:11:43.900 And people are laughing.

00:11:45.580 Right?

00:11:46.220 There's no cringe here.

00:11:48.720 Like, I'm the outsider.

00:11:49.780 if i were here they would descend upon me like wolves there's there's a there's a lot of spaces

00:11:56.020 where cringe has just gone away like that would be one of them a lot of those like hobby nerd

00:12:01.320 spaces pokemon stuff funko pops and then like obviously trans spaces like there's nothing you

00:12:07.040 can't embarrass yourself there's nothing you can do that will cause someone to cringe because any

00:12:12.160 level of any shame or embarrassment is all internalized like somebody might mock you behind

00:12:16.840 your back but nobody would ever like roll their eyes or like no what they would do is if you

00:12:21.700 walked in with a lakers jersey on and they would go oh so uh you consume the sports ball i see and

00:12:29.160 everyone's everyone's laughing at you everyone's laughing you because you like hockey laughing all

00:12:34.520 the way to the and they let you know and you better get the fuck out of there yeah because

00:12:44.260 your your minutes are numbered man you're in trouble buddy but it's the guy the girls who go

00:12:49.740 up it's like good day my lord no and then they started talking about like the minutiae of this

00:12:58.820 comic and i'm like this is the whole this has been going on the whole time i never knew and

00:13:04.140 everything this is out there this guy this is their job they're making bank on this it's too

00:13:08.320 much man and there's like a guy and you know he's got so many cards and i'm like that's gotta be

00:13:13.780 like a quarter of a million dollars worth of cards that he's got like this is it this is it i mean

00:13:20.240 that the funny thing like that's really autistic and now i'm worried about it but i was going to

00:13:24.100 say that's actually the reason that i was going to allow my kids because i i wasn't allowed to

00:13:29.500 my dad pretty much he outlawed it in the house and i kind of thought look it's a little bit defanged

00:13:34.960 now i'm i don't i don't let them watch the show to them it's just a card game we play cards like

00:13:39.460 card cards all the time and they both they got a bunch of like old busted cards from a kid at their

00:13:45.840 uh like one of their friends so they're like hey can we get more of these and you know they

00:13:49.980 what they do now like dollarama sells them and what it is is they've they've bought up

00:13:55.120 old pokemon cards and repackaged them so you can get you get like 40 common pokemon cards for like

00:14:01.660 four bucks so i'm like all right you just want to like they actually want to play the game they're

00:14:06.140 like dad how do we play this i'm like okay they like the game they like the pictures that's fine

00:14:10.100 yeah yeah because i remember kids being in a magic the gathering when i was young and i never did

00:14:15.560 but i'm like this these are cool pictures i guess the social element of it like okay this is

00:14:20.620 something that you can it's an easy way to make friends is other kids playing it you can jump

00:14:24.400 into the game and it's a it's an actual it's a it's a rules-based thing you know what i mean and

00:14:31.260 not just the rules of the game but the rules of like negotiation if you're trading or learning

00:14:36.300 the value of things so i think that's a reasonable thing also you got two girls so before long

00:14:43.320 they're gonna hit you with the eye rolls they're gonna hit you with the exasperated size when you

00:14:48.640 ask the wrong question yeah so if they're liking something like pokemon cards that's something you

00:14:54.220 understand uh you can wrap your head around that one day not really because i never played it i'm

00:14:59.460 kind of figuring it out at the same time they're going to come to you and say dad can we go goosh

00:15:03.420 like what's what what's goosh never never mind just wait in the car dad humiliation exactly i'm

00:15:12.340 like i don't what is that is that is that is it water guns is is it laser tag what i only i only

00:15:19.100 know a few things that kids can do just tell me doesn't involve a vr headset whatever boys

00:15:26.940 or boys yeah i got a daughter now hell yeah everyone says it honestly the day she was born

00:15:37.580 or soon after the day she was born i was getting comments like oh you know it's gonna be hard when

00:15:44.700 she starts dating i'm like she is four and a half minutes old can you please shut the fuck you may

00:15:51.600 well just throw her away right now like people start on that right away yeah it's like oh hey

00:15:57.920 dad what are you gonna think when she starts which she does let's let's focus on you know

00:16:05.200 swallowing yeah let's focus on grabbing you know she hasn't got muscles that allow her to hold her

00:16:09.840 head upright current currently at this moment she's really focusing on keeping her eyes open

00:16:16.080 and she's really focused

00:16:18.400 she doesn't know that she's got toes yet

00:16:20.660 so we're before knowing

00:16:22.680 that she's got toes

00:16:23.680 well and also by the time they're the age

00:16:26.480 to do that it's not inconceivable

00:16:28.360 that they have better

00:16:30.580 judgment you know

00:16:31.600 I mean I remember

00:16:33.740 I remember cases

00:16:35.860 when I went and had the opportunity

00:16:38.360 to do really stupid things and I did do stupid

00:16:40.640 things when I was a teenager but I had the opportunity

00:16:42.820 to do some really really stupid

00:16:44.720 things and i didn't do them i just left or i i quote unquote chickened out i guess i'm a loser

00:16:50.900 because i chicken i didn't chicken out i was thinking what what would my dad say that my dad's

00:16:55.460 gonna find out what is he gonna say and i just i'm like ah no i'm not doing that and then he

00:16:59.800 cut himself in that song dance with the devil by moral technique where he has to rape a crackhead

00:17:06.020 on a roof and broken jaw mumbled for god but they weren't concerned when they were done and

00:17:13.660 She was lying bloody broken and bruised.

00:17:15.600 One of them niggas pulled out a brand new 22.

00:17:18.220 They told him that she was a witness for what she'd gone through.

00:17:21.000 And if he killed her, he was guaranteed a spot in a crew.

00:17:23.680 He thought about it for a minute.

00:17:25.120 She was practically dead.

00:17:26.420 And so he leaned over and put the gun right to her head.

00:17:29.520 His version of the song ended the way it should have, where he said, no, thank you.

00:17:33.900 Yeah, I'm not gonna.

00:17:35.900 Chicken.

00:17:39.860 Loser.

00:17:40.220 Can you imagine a bunch of you guys with, like, knives and bats about to, like, rape and emacinate a crackhead?

00:17:46.480 You don't want to do it.

00:17:47.160 Like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, cock.

00:17:51.600 Oh, did the baby wear his diaper?

00:17:55.900 Yeah, you know what, man?

00:17:58.060 Grow up.

00:18:01.560 Oh, real mature as, like, this freaking wailing woman.

00:18:07.720 Hey, look.

00:18:08.980 Hey, here we are.

00:18:10.220 that that's a man of high moral character speaking of women that don't know how to be in

00:18:16.780 relationships and speaking of men who are not of high moral sexual character there's a segue

00:18:22.280 would you like to talk about a story yeah oh yeah what do we got buddy well this is just

00:18:28.220 dirty nasty rotten drama the stuff has no place has no place in a show of means like this

00:18:37.820 maybe the place for this is real secret coffee hours i was about to say that we're going to do

00:18:43.600 a live real secret coffee well here's the thing real secret coffee hours is for reviewing which

00:18:48.900 is our paywall show available on gumroad and patreon aggressive sub stacks people write to

00:18:55.200 each other we're talking about drama in the dissident sphere that i find interesting

00:19:00.180 now this

00:19:02.320 I wouldn't even say this

00:19:04.120 is illustrative of anything deeper

00:19:06.000 this isn't trying to figure

00:19:08.100 out how the teal sphere works

00:19:10.120 or anything like that this is just

00:19:12.160 a generational crash

00:19:14.420 out

00:19:14.800 this is just a vortex

00:19:20.240 of sorrow what are we

00:19:22.180 talking about we're talking about Elijah

00:19:24.240 Schaefer do you know Elijah Schaefer

00:19:26.420 much before this? you know I'd

00:19:28.220 only seen his name passed around i really did not know anything about him and i so now i i this is

00:19:32.980 my first experience is just seeing what an absolute wreck he is so he is i'm just gonna pull him up

00:19:39.980 here i was rift tv is his network this is a pretty famous guy in our space um and he's the ceo of

00:19:48.180 rift tv and um he's hosted on his show a lot of distant thinkers a lot of very far-right people

00:19:55.320 in full disclosure i was in talks to appear on this show at one point

00:20:01.820 early last year i believe i was speaking to his producer and nothing came of it of course but uh

00:20:11.300 this is a legitimate show he's got producers he's got there's people on the payroll of this thing

00:20:16.600 i've initially just saw these screen captured tweets i'm going to read them so people know

00:20:22.380 what we're talking about so elijah shaffer this is a guy who's going to the conferences the

00:20:27.040 conservative conferences and he's got some real money behind him i had heard something to the tune

00:20:33.420 of like five million dollars was invested through one or more investors into rift tv

00:20:38.520 to position it as something like the blaze or something like any of these larger networks that

00:20:44.380 are trying to make something happen uh when it ends up just being a few shows you know what i

00:20:49.780 checked in on the other day was censored.tv which is now known as compound censored you know

00:20:56.820 gavin mcginnis's network oh yeah and he fused that with anthony cumia's network and i swear to god

00:21:03.780 there's four shows entirely on that network and one of the shows is once a month like if you go

00:21:13.220 from monday to friday there'll be one show a day and it's all just gavin's got three or four shows

00:21:21.300 and anthony kumia just does his show multiple it's these two guys they used to have jim goad

00:21:27.140 they used to have a ton of shows something that when you pay your money to you felt like you're

00:21:33.140 getting something of substance and now it's these two freaking bloated assholes and then atheism is

00:21:41.860 unstoppable which is just another content career they pulled from the wretched swamp and just like

00:21:50.020 eight you think it'd be about atheism but it's really just talking about trump

00:21:54.820 it's an entire network of burnouts talking about trump i'm like this and rift tv same thing you

00:22:01.060 look at it there's like three shows on it because i thought when you started a network you needed

00:22:06.900 10 different people involved you needed to stack you needed to make it so if you're tuning it in

00:22:11.220 any day there's a block of programming right apparently not anymore i don't know this is just

00:22:17.540 a different business model than what i was introduced to so but here's elijah shaffer

00:22:23.640 deleted post let's read this he says i do not know where my wife and kids are and i cannot get a hold

00:22:30.740 of them they are filed as missing persons they have gone missing last in for i think he's law

00:22:37.300 enforcement. Last enforcement confirmed someone

00:22:39.360 in my household set me up.

00:22:41.880 Okay. Which would

00:22:43.460 presumably be either

00:22:45.360 his wife or his kids.

00:22:47.020 Like, who else is in your household?

00:22:50.060 Who is in your

00:22:51.220 household, friend? They

00:22:53.160 planted drugs and said I was a criminal.

00:22:56.040 Uh-oh.

00:22:58.120 Your kids planted

00:22:59.360 drugs on you. I'm plausible.

00:23:02.060 Kids do the damnedest things.

00:23:03.860 This will be a public

00:23:05.260 trial by the FBI.

00:23:07.300 uh for the folks at home the fbi does not conduct trials you know what i mean like i don't i don't

00:23:15.180 think that's how that works it's not how it works it says i'm a victim of serious targeted felony

00:23:20.640 crimes i am not suicidal now i'm just skip ahead here uh elijah schaefer during this period has

00:23:29.620 been on a binge of allegedly cocaine and amphetamines which whenever i hear people say

00:23:38.140 the phrase i am not suicidal i think i've only seen that from people who are right on the verge

00:23:45.640 of suicide like i've seen a lot of guys who are like deep into a binge and deep into some kind

00:23:52.960 of psychosis say i'm not suicidal like no one's more suicidal than you right now you're the you're

00:23:59.220 king of it at this moment yeah they have kidnapped my family he says they have stolen my money

00:24:05.360 i will bring justice i need the public to know i'm in virginia i believe the fbi is trying to

00:24:10.160 destroy my life and kill me i remember he said the fbi was also going to be the public conducting

00:24:16.800 the trial right so someone found this they did he deleted it and then people were afraid for his

00:24:23.200 family's lives yeah they thought he killed his wife yeah because he's apparently there's a gun

00:24:28.440 in the house and then people were saying that this you would think that someone would plan it

00:24:33.700 better than that but sometimes i get caught up in the tractor beam of true crime stuff on um youtube

00:24:41.860 by which i mean just watching interrogation videos from cops of like a a kid who just killed his

00:24:49.520 mother and then they they don't think it through they just dump a bunch of stuff out there you know

00:24:55.120 what i mean yeah and they think it's six i'm like yeah it could we're used to watching movies where

00:24:59.740 the killer is a hannibal lecter you know a mix of a spider and a snake like no most people are

00:25:07.780 dumb as shit so who else came to talk about this but milo yiannopoulos

00:25:15.520 and here's how i know it's real because milo yiannopoulos is involved

00:25:22.220 Yeah. He is the most notorious man, in my view, just for his track record of outright treachery. But his outright treachery is steeped in evidence every single time. Like, usually when he's stabbing someone in the back, it is with a high quality knife.

00:25:42.980 so he says i'm in touch and of course as he's saying this it's so disgusting but i kind of

00:25:49.800 love it because he is so potently himself like he's still such a faggot he's still such a slimy

00:25:59.860 slippery piece of shit so when he's out here milo's talking like he cares about elijah shaffer

00:26:06.520 he's actually just spilling the beans right he says i told him to get off the internet for a

00:26:12.820 couple of weeks and go to rehab it's better for everyone to rip off the band-aid so i'll show you

00:26:17.980 i'll share with you over the next few hours the info doing the rounds in private so none of this

00:26:24.020 info everything that was shared in confidence i'm just trying to help the guy anyways everything he

00:26:28.960 shared with me i'm gonna drip it to you so that you keep interacting with my feed yeah i'm gonna

00:26:33.860 maximize the engagement of this over the next few hours in one single thread such a piece of shit

00:26:39.940 i'm tempted to say you gotta hand it to him however under no circumstances do you gotta

00:26:47.220 hand it to him you do not yeah it's just a turn of phrase folks don't do not actually hand it to

00:26:53.000 him so he's like i want what's best for everyone so he's just posting screenshots of fucking text

00:26:59.220 messages he's sharing with him and i won't go through all of them but here's the story so

00:27:05.800 massive crash and there was a fucking video i saw maybe i'll see if i can find it but it was

00:27:11.660 elijah schaefer the video that he took and posted to his social media where he's in a hotel

00:27:16.480 and there's a flood there's just water dripping from the ceiling into like the main floor area

00:27:22.500 and he's walking through saying you know i'm staying in this hotel and look at this man this

00:27:26.940 is just what do they mean by this no one believes me that my life doesn't make any sense right now

00:27:33.420 but this is the way back to my hotel room and it doesn't make any sense i now have to leave

00:27:38.680 my hotel room because of a flood this is very weird but what's going on here okay

00:27:46.600 it's very bizarre so there's some i guess some water moving here okay cool won't walk in that

00:27:55.080 my feet are wet and then we got some flooding i guess okay it's falling on me but

00:28:05.360 what even is going on sloshing through a fucking a soaked carpet and he's he's talking like you

00:28:16.100 know this how does this happen why does something like this happen it's just it's just a fucking

00:28:20.260 flood but he thinks it's a message to him he thinks he's being gang stalked in so many words

00:28:25.480 so like okay this is some kind of psychosis i saw someone post like why are they always trying to

00:28:31.000 blame drugs it could just be psychosis like don't don't drag drugs don't drag cocaine amphetamines

00:28:39.740 in this he could just be losing his mind fair enough but here's what happened so this guy

00:28:46.180 elijah shaffer who is i mean there's rumors for days about this guy he is a recent convert to i

00:28:54.640 believe eastern orthodox christianity but he has a history of you guessed it sodomy oh shit oh

00:29:04.740 every time dude he kept uh he kept huffing man ass if you catch my drift

00:29:11.100 and uh then but he's married he's got kids two kids as far as i know but he's got he's got the

00:29:20.120 history of the gay sex you hate to see it but you're you're tired of hearing about it aren't

00:29:27.320 you wouldn't it be great you know it's like another one bites the dust i wish i wish we

00:29:34.260 didn't have to have this story that gives so much ammunition to the left when they talk about how

00:29:39.700 so many of people on this side are secretly gay like nah but married two kids he was having an

00:29:47.320 affair with sarah stock who is another recent christian not a christian god i think she came

00:29:56.800 she came out of nowhere and i believe you know she she wasn't born again it's not like she was

00:30:04.020 a former whore like many of them are and then became washed of her sins i think the story was

00:30:11.860 that you know she was just you know just a small town girl left-wing academic groups are working

00:30:17.960 to normalize pedophilia and it's extremely disturbing but it's working welcome back to

00:30:25.060 problematic my name is sarah stock this is a weekly show that i do for riff tv as i go along

00:30:32.360 if you find anything interesting helpful important whatever feel free to leave me a like or hit the

00:30:38.200 subscribe button and she chastises the prostitutes she hates degeneracy she's trad and the story was

00:30:47.820 that she was a virgin when she married her husband recently in a ceremony that was consecrated by the

00:30:55.740 pope himself that doesn't happen every day yeah that's kind of wild turns out she wasn't a virgin

00:31:03.100 turns out she was the opposite of virgin she was sleeping with a married man a married man by the

00:31:09.160 name of elijah shaver and and how do they do it they go to these conservative conventions man

00:31:16.120 these are meat markets apparently i've never been to one of these or if i i bet if i were to go i

00:31:22.960 would just be one of the plebs i would just be one of the guys with a pass i'm not in the upper

00:31:28.940 echelon where everyone's just sucking and fucking everyone goes to these to just cheat on their

00:31:34.880 spouses just to hook up with each other that's what i'm hearing so he goes and they have an affair

00:31:40.600 and then then everything it's the drugs it's the affair wife finds out he's in love with her he

00:31:48.000 wants to leave his wife really pathetic stuff every wrong move you can make you know if you

00:31:54.620 if you're gonna cheat on your wife do it with some self-respect don't cheat on your wife and

00:32:01.440 say oh i found a new wife oh but how about don't cheat on your wife we can probably just say hey

00:32:06.780 don't cheat on your wife yes yes yes you should not your wife we don't need to add i don't think

00:32:12.640 we have to add caveats to that but i will say if you if you must

00:32:17.440 if you must don't find another woman to go are you my wife are you is that you are you my wife

00:32:27.940 like just going and confessing your love pathetic stuff how do we know this we have the text

00:32:33.860 messages we have how do we know this we have every dimension to this story and it's juicy

00:32:41.980 succulent you love it i love when a man's life comes crashing down damn son where'd you find

00:32:50.620 no not anyone that i know obviously but someone that just they had it all you had the network but

00:32:59.660 it turns out the network sucks and you don't got any shows you had the marriage it turns out you

00:33:06.060 can't help but sleep with the new whore in town a new whore walked in the door you're in a room

00:33:13.960 and a whore just walked in and he said yep right right right beeline to it go right to her

00:33:20.400 couldn't wait a second with the you look at sarah stock from a distance this woman

00:33:26.560 you're thinking oh yeah i bet she's a skank everyone knew of course of course i remember

00:33:32.900 uh dave green was uh you know in his own way asking why are there so many up e-girls

00:33:40.740 in the right-wing space and i said despite all the we talk about ourselves and each other

00:33:49.860 this is still a dissident space there's still weird trippy heterodox ideas we're pretty abrasive

00:33:56.500 it's a group of fucked up people right so you can trust that any woman that finds herself here

00:34:04.980 is either utterly insane or a massive whore that has just found a new frontier yes the

00:34:12.660 whore had to find a new town to go in so i'm like it's usually one of those two so don't be surprised

00:34:18.980 so here's the new one here's like the aw shuck small town girl i just any any girl that's like

00:34:25.860 oh i didn't have a cell phone until 15 minutes ago but i hate sodomy i'm like you look honestly

00:34:31.060 that's that is almost a pornified fantasy of the woman we assume must exist that woman probably

00:34:37.140 doesn't exist the perfect woman is just a woman that doesn't know what's going on

00:34:43.860 if you're looking for a young woman whom to impregnate what you want is a woman that just

00:34:50.580 doesn't have an opinion on politics there's bob posted a movie poster earlier the film is called

00:34:55.540 my wife is retarded and the subtitle is how to find the perfect wife yeah just doesn't have an

00:35:00.900 opinion on it's like oh if you heard about have you heard about chemtrails like i want her to know

00:35:06.820 kind of what's going on she thinks she's introducing you to chemtrails yeah great love

00:35:11.780 it that's a perfect marriage but if she's got really passionate opinions about sodomy there's

00:35:17.300 something wrong with her yeah and and she's also trying to be a content creator she's trying to

00:35:23.940 have oh she's trad but she wants a media career i draw the line meme page admin is as far as you're

00:35:30.580 allowed to go no content creation well a meme page admin is just like having a booth of the

00:35:37.620 farmer's market yes exactly it's a booth of the farmer's market of ideas women are good at that

00:35:44.580 the mimetic farmers market yeah the mimetic farmers market so here's neil let's just go

00:35:50.980 through this is rip right through this all right in february 2025 sarah stock and elijah

00:35:54.980 schaefer mccann began sleeping together the affair ended the day she got engaged about

00:36:00.260 six months later at that time they experienced multiple pregnancy scares it is alleged by one

00:36:04.820 former acquaintance that sarah got an abortion she's a a trad who got an abortion and of course

00:36:11.940 she's on social media chastising women for having too many abortions um stock and schaefer had sex

00:36:20.180 on the day they met at the cpac conference in recordings of stock and when we say recordings

00:36:25.140 there's audio logs there's phone calls like there's no way around this this isn't just rumors right

00:36:30.180 she claims large amounts of alcohol were involved oh of course so she's saying that elijah schaefer

00:36:34.900 got her liquored up i'm sure she's no stranger to a rum and soda um i just we gotta get to this

00:36:42.980 stock's husband had met schaefer many times but did not know about their sexual relationship

00:36:49.920 when he proposed when he met stock's husband schaefer kissed him on the forehead in the

00:36:55.760 manner of a priest what the fuck that sounds sociopathic that's insane dude that's ridiculous

00:37:02.940 i'm trying to find a picture like who are these people like never mind all of the sexual stuff

00:37:10.340 if i met a guy at cpac and he started kissing people on the forehead i would like you're not

00:37:15.980 invited anymore dude you're you're you're out of the group if i just never kissed me on the

00:37:21.040 forehead i would palm strike him in the throat yes exactly what the fuck are you doing bro

00:37:28.100 i don't say there's some can't say that there's something up with his eyes too there's always

00:37:33.080 been something up with his eyes yeah one he's almost got like a lazy eye or one that's kind of

00:37:38.620 droopier than the other his nose is crooked there's something it's like someone put his

00:37:43.800 face in photoshop and did the twirl filter effect on it look at look at the picture right here

00:37:50.240 does his head not look his skull does it not look curved like an s yeah he's got he's got

00:37:57.880 bad physiognomy like i'm he's not an ugly guy but i mean everybody that i've ever met with that head

00:38:04.040 was not that bright he's not like ugly he's not like no no if you look at his face like what

00:38:10.020 component here's off it looks like someone put took his head and just kind of made it a jar

00:38:17.340 like god just kind of smeared it went and now it's off and then so yeah there's something that

00:38:25.580 You look at him and his smile is kind of treacherous.

00:38:28.800 I don't know.

00:38:29.180 Like, I don't want to be too judgy about these people.

00:38:31.600 But if it was just the affair, it'd be one thing.

00:38:33.760 I will say this, though.

00:38:35.680 I saw this great comment.

00:38:37.780 I forget who did it.

00:38:39.180 But someone had said that, oh, all of the Mad Men fans out here,

00:38:45.640 they love it when a guy does cocaine and cheats on his wife

00:38:49.080 and blows up his marriage, except when it happens in real life.

00:38:52.420 And I'm like, fair enough.

00:38:54.340 hey

00:38:55.680 touche

00:38:57.380 so as you're watching this whole

00:39:00.000 sordid saga unfold

00:39:02.320 with Elijah Schaefer just imagine

00:39:04.420 watching this with the

00:39:06.300 AMC logo in the bottom

00:39:08.220 right hand corner

00:39:09.020 and then all of a sudden

00:39:11.560 Elijah becomes real complex

00:39:14.140 it's primo entertainment now

00:39:16.180 he's a real complex guy

00:39:18.440 and the world's against him and you know what

00:39:20.360 maybe his wife's a bitch

00:39:21.580 he's like walter way like yeah i bet his bitch wife deserved it his

00:39:27.140 stupid kid stood in his way of him having more affairs what do you think about all this are you

00:39:34.840 are you i mean i i was never into any of these people i always kind of just i hate these people

00:39:40.860 right out of the gate you know like i i don't like i don't like influencers i don't like people

00:39:45.680 that have their own media channels i don't like i think that's a waste of resources especially if

00:39:51.100 you're an intelligent well-spoken person it's a huge waste of your time and then i you know i hate

00:39:56.660 women who are influencers i hate like i don't hate women but you know i don't i don't like i don't

00:40:02.220 like sarah stock if you had to just explain who sarah stock is to me before this drama i would

00:40:08.480 have immediately just hated her because she's just a woman who exists to be like talked about

00:40:13.220 she's a fucking celebrity and this is we're not supposed to be doing that right ferryman said this

00:40:17.780 the other day these people are like anti-celebrities that they aside from being

00:40:21.540 claiming that they're kind of dissidents and they're anti-system they're just fucking celebrities

00:40:25.820 bitch what do you even do you're it's a celebrity marriage and it's celebrity this and you're

00:40:30.140 oh you're oh you oh but you you wanted to tell me about your your great time at cpac and what

00:40:34.840 you guys did for lunch fuck off no i don't like these people no it's guys it's all lauren southern

00:40:40.240 it's yeah it's exactly it's lauren southern all the way down this sarah stock woman someone else

00:40:46.680 to point it out but i can't stop seeing it all these women have sort of a lauren southern type

00:40:51.700 face it's a smug smirk it's it's like the knowledge that they want to telegraph to you

00:40:59.660 that they're getting away with something like it's it's just this smarmy like a wicked witch

00:41:06.260 expression i don't know how else to describe it it's like always smiling without showing your

00:41:11.180 teeth but it's no i know i know exactly what it is yeah guys there's something that people might

00:41:16.180 be right here the one who comes out looking the best through all this and all the dramas i'm sure

00:41:22.820 to come candace owens you know what you're getting with her that's true you know you're getting some

00:41:30.900 batshit and saying you know kookery but i don't think she's having an affair how is it that

00:41:36.900 candace owens is the only one without dirt on her right now what have you people done

00:41:41.060 eastern orthodoxy

00:41:43.160 can you hold another L

00:41:45.020 speaking of this

00:41:48.160 speaking of sexual degeneracy

00:41:50.060 and parties

00:41:51.060 do we have time

00:41:53.860 need we say more

00:41:54.680 what can be said

00:41:56.440 in fact what hasn't been said

00:41:58.720 we're talking about the latest batch of

00:42:01.640 Epstein files

00:42:02.460 very related to what we were just talking about

00:42:05.540 and that's everywhere now

00:42:07.100 it's crazy like Instagram is covered with it

00:42:09.960 and fucking facebook and man it was a great weekend it was i think they dropped it on the

00:42:17.700 friday yeah knowing that people like us were just gonna make a buffet out of it and there's still

00:42:23.960 people scouring typing in keywords seeing what pops up uh i think we've got enough to comment

00:42:30.840 on for now maybe we talk about this next episode i don't know but um i think there's a lot of

00:42:35.920 people who were trying to downplay the epstein significance that are eating crow seemed as

00:42:43.720 killed michael tracy i'll tell you that right now he's been downplaying the epstein file so i think

00:42:50.460 he made an executive decision to chase the story straight to fucking hell and ask epstein himself

00:42:57.380 he might be dead he's like he actually is dead though right i'm pretty there's not been confirmed

00:43:04.660 but i'm like he's probably fucking dead and inhale just like scott adams i had a lot of

00:43:10.680 people mad at me about that scott adams clip really i had some i had a couple people i think

00:43:17.160 some people thought that scott adams really converted they're like we don't know what was

00:43:20.860 in his heart it raised my hand hand shoots up i do i know i know it was in his heart

00:43:27.380 a bunch of turds

00:43:30.360 alright

00:43:31.840 the DOJ releases

00:43:33.680 3 million pages of Epstein files

00:43:36.220 including hundreds of thousands of photos

00:43:38.300 we're looking at zero heads right here

00:43:40.000 180,000 images

00:43:42.280 2,000 videos

00:43:43.620 we got text messages

00:43:45.620 we've got email screenshots

00:43:48.040 we've got all kinds of shit here

00:43:50.200 people have been scouring it

00:43:52.180 trying to find

00:43:52.860 whatever it is that their agenda is

00:43:55.680 so there's some people looking for just

00:43:57.340 evidence of pedophilia some are just looking for jew related stuff some are looking for

00:44:04.140 you know uh financial dealings or specific names of celebrities so everyone's got the thing that

00:44:10.780 they're going they're going after um and i think that they're just letting the public

00:44:15.640 go through it because damned if the fbi is going to do it of course um would you like to go through

00:44:23.420 some of the things that i found yeah you got some highlights i got a few just a few

00:44:28.260 just a few um i got one here and um i don't have it pulled up on screen so i'll just read it to you

00:44:38.600 um this is from the af post it says in a 2015 email jeffrey epstein mentions bioengineering

00:44:45.880 pigs with non-cloven hooves

00:44:48.200 to create kosher

00:44:49.760 bacon. Nice.

00:44:51.600 They're calling it the most

00:44:53.560 Jewish bioengineering

00:44:55.440 of all time. Get a life

00:44:57.780 Jews. Kosher bacon.

00:45:00.440 This implies

00:45:01.800 to me that Jeff really loves

00:45:03.900 bacon and this is important to him.

00:45:06.180 Yeah. They want to

00:45:07.840 take bacon from us. They want us to stop

00:45:09.660 bringing it up.

00:45:10.460 Or they want to make

00:45:12.480 kosher bacon to get rid of regular

00:45:14.440 bacon oh hmm epstein in an email to peter teal there's a quote i'm looking at the email right

00:45:21.920 now as you probably know i represent the rothschilds

00:45:26.720 and it's funny because you're not a lawyer so like what do you mean by you like you're an

00:45:35.720 you're an agent of the you're an agent of the rothschilds um see one my big takeaway from

00:45:43.740 seeing what i've seen from these emails is i was shocked at just how anti-white epstein was

00:45:52.400 and just how brazenly jewish he was yeah you're seeing like just control f the word goy

00:46:00.700 there's so much mention of goy i think i've got a account i got some evidence here of how many

00:46:06.760 times he says it um there's a few emails here um you know there's this one that people have

00:46:13.760 been laughing at goyim in abundance you know he's complaining about too many white people

00:46:19.200 too many wasps so it's goyim in abundance um here's a quote this is a way yeah this is from

00:46:25.960 jeffrey epstein this is the way the jew makes money and made a fortune in the past 10 years

00:46:31.200 selling short and shipping futures let the goyim deal in the real world this this guy right here

00:46:38.720 this this guy that you're seeing so much evidence of is who hitler was trying to protect germany

00:46:45.280 from yeah this is the guy this is this is him there was this guy back then this because everyone's

00:46:52.800 for months prior to this they're saying jeffrey epstein he's just a cool misunderstood white guy

00:46:59.360 gad gadfly a white man a man about town and then you see these emails and i do wonder if they were

00:47:06.820 if these ones in particular were kept for this moment but he's just talking about how he's he's

00:47:14.080 in these emails saying so i yeah i'm a jew i'm a jew and i like to steal the goys money and i hate

00:47:18.780 the goy ha ha ha some people may read this or hear this and think he's just joking around he's being

00:47:28.160 ironic and to that point i'll say i have been in group chats with jews before and they do somewhat

00:47:36.560 talk like this i've known them to talk like this sort of ironically saying goy like uh you know

00:47:44.020 goy slap it's an irony shield right like they they have to smirk and snicker every time they

00:47:50.120 say it so they can always oh i was just being playful so well why is it every fucking word

00:47:55.300 out of your mouth then bud lmao goys are subhuman they might say but do you know what they never

00:48:02.460 say and i never personally saw them say was lmao we're a bunch of stinking heebs they never say

00:48:10.600 that about themselves forget it yeah they never said lol we're a bunch of slimy kikes it was just

00:48:17.240 a bunch of making fun of goy calling them animals calling them cattle and say like they're joking

00:48:22.420 that they're playing into the jewish stereotype while also doing the thing like you are effectively

00:48:28.820 complaining about white people like that's what they do that's what a lot of the people in the

00:48:31.680 right now are doing when they employ the word goy goy was they attempted to take the word goy back

00:48:39.720 and by they i mean internet nazis this was many many years ago shows like goy talk or goy news

00:48:48.980 or whatever it is trying to make that the white nigga but the way i'm seeing it now i'm just

00:48:55.180 seeing other white people use it to complain about other white people which means that using

00:49:00.540 it the way jews use it to say that this type of white person is subhuman anyway uh so far what

00:49:07.360 do you think your read on the epstein thing i've just been blabber yeah i mean i i've seen some

00:49:12.380 pretty disgusting shit i mean the the big story is it confirms everything conspiracy theorists

00:49:17.880 have been saying for the longest time because it wasn't that long ago that they were winding this

00:49:22.700 up and saying you know probably it's possible epstein was just a fall guy that's why he was

00:49:28.020 caught and why he's dead maybe he didn't do all these things probably somebody did them but it

00:49:31.740 probably wasn't him it was definitely fucking him like there are there are thousands of photos of

00:49:37.040 him in there with like nine-year-old girls in a bathtub there are photos in there somebody posted

00:49:43.220 one this afternoon and i kind of wish they hadn't of pieces of a chopped up toddler on a cutting

00:49:48.180 board in his kitchen so yeah this shit is real but the other thing is it's not to me a surprise

00:49:56.460 i don't think it's a coincidence that this came out a year after trump said it would come out

00:50:01.340 and while it's a lot of files it's nowhere near all of the files every female is redacted most

00:50:07.300 of the males are redacted almost every name in every email every location many of the dates are

00:50:12.160 all redacted so what did we actually get we got some fucking torture porn we got some snuff out of

00:50:18.360 it and we it looks like we got some patsies thrown under the bus you know the five percent of faces

00:50:23.760 and names that were unredacted have our patsies thrown under the bus but i mean i noticed trump

00:50:28.960 doesn't show up in there or at least not proportionally proportional to um the involvement

00:50:34.380 that we know he did have with epstein which was enormous which was one of epstein's primary

00:50:39.960 associates for decades apparently he doesn't really show up at all in the emails isn't that

00:50:45.060 weird i mean he's there but not anywhere near as much as a lot of these other people so

00:50:49.380 you can't tell me that this hasn't been tailored and we know that it's not all of the files we

00:50:54.140 know even though this is a lot it's only a fraction of what's there yeah and what we have

00:50:59.280 been presented is pretty telling like it's pretty revealing about what he was like and and there's

00:51:05.740 still there's still data and there's still evidence here showing that he's up to some

00:51:10.060 pretty nefarious stuff pretty malevolent acts but so when people are still looking at this and saying

00:51:14.340 see there's nothing in there why do you want at 1200 hours a male identified as one blank

00:51:19.540 arrived at the c20 office blank stated he was unemployed and resides with his mother and her

00:51:23.620 unemployed morbidly obese boyfriend blank stated he has ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms as well

00:51:27.340 as other illicit substances in the past and currently smokes marijuana that doesn't really

00:51:30.460 matter. Blank reported being raped, and then in parentheses, sodomized by his great uncle since

00:51:36.040 the age of five until age 22. Blank described meeting Epstein at a yacht club in a state of

00:51:41.480 which his relatives were members, first at age five and later at age eight. Blank states he was

00:51:44.880 raped, sodomized by Epstein in 2000 on a large yacht, as well as by former president William J.

00:51:50.380 Clinton. Blank states the also current President Trump, along with his wife Melania, were present

00:51:55.880 during the said yacht trip in 2000. And then in parentheses, Trump was not married to his

00:51:59.500 current spouse, Melania, until 2005. Blank reports while being raped by Epstein and Clinton, he was

00:52:03.700 in a heavy drug-induced state. Blank reports that all the above incidents were recovered,

00:52:07.560 repressed memories, until he began therapy sometime in 2016 approximately. Blank offered

00:52:11.380 no supporting or corroborating evidence or witnesses that could be contacted. And then

00:52:15.360 following this, I'd like to add a few other points disclosed by the purported victim. While on this

00:52:19.280 yacht, he witnessed African-American males having sex with white blonde females, all of whom were

00:52:22.500 bleeding during intercourse. He was a victim of a type of ritualistic sacrifice in which his feet

00:52:25.880 were cut with a scimitar but left no scarring on the yacht he witnessed babies being dismembered

00:52:29.900 their intestines removed and individuals eating the feces from intestines he was also raped by

00:52:33.720 george bush one george hw bush and then the reply thanks blank i didn't realize bush raped him too

00:52:38.860 okay why don't you want to look more why are so many people so eager to close the book on this

00:52:47.580 like you you should want i really do think if you keep pulling this thread some big things are going

00:52:53.600 to get unraveled but so i we're talking about this being amused by this i'm being entertained

00:52:59.240 by this but i like to me i've seen other people say this where you you feel compelled to show this

00:53:05.840 to your friends and family and say look you you this whole time you said epstein wasn't like an

00:53:11.680 anti-white jew or he thought nothing new look he's saying that he's jewish he represents jewish power

00:53:16.960 and he's doing all these things because he hates the goys and people still want to tune out from

00:53:22.460 it something there's it's like a cognito hazard it's an information hazard where like the the

00:53:27.680 worse it gets the less likely people are to look at it and and that's strange to me sir i cut you

00:53:34.500 off there continue no no i totally agree with that um i was gonna say that overall i think this

00:53:40.400 release is kind of on the scale of to me it feels like the same scale as the time that we um the

00:53:46.640 first time that i heard about the finders and like a whole bunch of different strings all kind of

00:53:51.660 coming together and there's a moment where a light is shone on the roaches and before they

00:53:57.580 scatter you get a quick look at them and when you put this together with the finders with

00:54:03.940 john wayne gacy with everything else that's been going on in the american government since

00:54:08.900 the end of the war i just more than ever wish for the total destruction of america and israel of

00:54:15.740 course but to me this is like the the hundredth thing on the pile just proving how completely

00:54:23.460 completely corrupt and demonic and satanic the u.s government and elite institutions are because

00:54:30.360 it isn't just the government obviously it's the newspapers it's hollywood it's all a lot of those

00:54:34.820 people are in banking they're in like policy institutes and they're consultants and vcs and

00:54:40.180 all of them you know it's then you see trump saying that we should move on from this and

00:54:49.100 yeah because he doesn't want to release anymore i think it's really time for the country to get

00:54:53.580 onto something else really you know now that uh nothing came out about me other than it was a

00:54:59.840 conspiracy against me literally by epstein and other people but i think it's time now for the

00:55:05.800 country to maybe get onto something else let me preface this by saying that as many of you know

00:55:12.160 i'm not american so who cares what i think about any of this okay but i think people who've been

00:55:19.720 paying attention are just tired of moving on i don't want to move on from anything anymore right

00:55:26.220 ever we didn't we didn't ask for this because we wanted to satisfy our curiosity we asked for it

00:55:32.220 Because we want blood.

00:55:33.820 Most of us want 100,000 perpetrators hung publicly or shot by firing squad.

00:55:40.420 That's what most of us want.

00:55:42.240 Right now, he's moving on from Antifa and what's going on in Minnesota.

00:55:46.940 He's moving on from the gay communist uprisings that are hitting most American major states, protesting ICE,

00:55:55.420 when he should be cracking down on that,

00:55:56.940 when he should be using this as trying to find any precedent he can to roll tanks in we're moving

00:56:03.360 on from that he's moving on from the somali scam that was uncovered in minnesota as well

00:56:09.800 like i i was there was a fascinating uh report made by the um o'keefe media group you know james

00:56:20.520 o'keefe he's got i don't know if he was wearing a dress for this i don't know if he put on his

00:56:26.160 best cock sucking lipstick to get this guy to talk but he's uh he's speaking to an fbi official

00:56:33.040 uh here's the headline fbi official admits minnesota fraud investigations will result

00:56:38.800 in zero arrests here's the quote i don't think anyone from the daycare fraud scandal would ever

00:56:46.700 go to prison we by we mean the doj and fbi just going to point to someone by the time that case

00:56:53.900 is done, even being looked at

00:56:55.780 and ready to go to court, Trump won't even be

00:56:57.800 in office anymore.

00:56:59.600 You don't think the FBI would arrest them,

00:57:01.600 even though Trump would be like, please arrest them?

00:57:03.680 I don't think so,

00:57:05.080 because over and over

00:57:07.700 and over again, he's been shown it doesn't work.

00:57:10.480 It's not working.

00:57:12.020 Also, nobody, I don't think anybody

00:57:13.520 would ever go to prison.

00:57:14.780 He would most likely be thrown out very quickly.

00:57:17.740 He's saying Kash Patel doesn't know what the

00:57:19.540 fuck he's doing. He's not a good-ass job.

00:57:22.480 According to the FBI,

00:57:23.900 Financial crimes can take literally years, so by the time investigations are ready, President Trump will be out of office, judges will throw the cases out, and accountability will be dead.

00:57:33.600 So we're moving on from ethnic cartels stealing taxpayer money and sending it to terrorists in their home country, we're moving on from that, we're moving on from Epstein, we're moving on from Antifa.

00:57:45.640 i think if you were a trump follower if you were even halfway invested in trump by this point you'd

00:57:54.440 say i want to give me one fucking thing not to move on from one thing you're going to drill into

00:58:02.200 and really own and take care of one fucking thing why make it the epstein thing treat it for what

00:58:09.640 it is that it's it's a thread that you pull that unravels a rank disgusting yard of fabric or

00:58:18.660 whatever you know i mean but it's it's there's going to be a lot of people that are taken down

00:58:22.680 with it maybe it does tie into comic ping pong comic pizza maybe it's all connected that's

00:58:28.160 another one it absolutely does like all of the terminology from pizzagate it's all there and i

00:58:33.860 haven't looked but i'm sure that all the same characters are represented as well so absolutely

00:58:38.380 like it's everyone it's such a big problem most people don't want to look at it

00:58:43.780 because too much will be on the table too many institutions will fall but i'm like

00:58:49.840 how's the fucking time like how much of this rotten system are you trying to protect

00:58:56.160 and it's a rotten global system i'm sure the saudis are involved i'm sure the fucking japanese

00:59:02.100 i don't care you know like you're supposed to be the guy for that you said you were the guy for

00:59:07.620 that why aren't why are so many trump fans not frothing at the mouth at this i mean when he

00:59:14.440 tells you that you need to move on why aren't you fucking furious you know i mean like

00:59:20.340 is there ever going to be a point where we're not called insane i'm sorry but like everyone in the

00:59:27.080 world is complaining about jews right now we're in a place where we never thought we would have

00:59:31.000 been five years ago but we're still the insane ones just how many of our talking points we had

00:59:37.380 normalize and yet we remain

00:59:39.480 over here on the fringes

00:59:41.400 because we're still actually trying

00:59:43.480 to be like no this isn't just

00:59:45.140 Kabuki theater guys

00:59:46.960 this isn't just the Sarah Stocks of the world

00:59:49.460 saying you know what I don't like

00:59:51.300 gay sex and abortion

00:59:52.780 you know what I mean like there's actually people who believe

00:59:55.480 things there's actually people

00:59:57.300 who want to solve problems

00:59:59.460 I don't think there's a lot

01:00:01.500 of those people out there

01:00:02.520 anyway I'm not trying to big ourselves

01:00:05.240 up here here's another thing

01:00:07.360 you want to see an interesting take yes uh we're looking at hyperborean knowledge

01:00:14.000 oh epstein file a connoisseur i see ball physics and the carthage connection so we're just getting

01:00:22.120 into satanism and ball and things let's just listen to this for a second as within so without

01:00:29.260 so the energies you have within manifests in your outward manner we talked about this your

01:00:36.000 username your screen name your profile picture what you call things is going to manifest through

01:00:40.780 your inner being and so we see ball clearly mentioned here by epstein and we'll get into

01:00:49.340 the new faction unlocks we have we have the berber jews faction unlock berber jews now

01:00:55.260 he was pointing to an email where there's an account name named ball which is a satanic

01:01:02.700 reference and so we're not going to watch this entire thing here but he's drawing connections

01:01:06.880 there's satanism there's interdimensional demons he's getting into the different strata of jews

01:01:13.560 which i always appreciate i always love hearing about inter-jew conflict but i think this is one

01:01:20.320 one dimension that people don't want to really talk about because i think it muddies the waters

01:01:25.840 we're talking about how much satanism is involved what do you yeah no no i hear you just got quiet

01:01:32.080 there for a second what do i think about the involvement like the satanism i look i don't

01:01:37.380 know how it because there's the whole thing about that tribe of israel like the pharisaical jews

01:01:44.940 that are today's israelis and how the god that they worship is actually just satan and he's been

01:01:50.000 guiding them against the church since christ left so i tend to think that's possible and so on some

01:01:58.420 level it doesn't really surprise me at all that if you scratch a jew you get a satan worshiper

01:02:04.060 but at the same time they're so connected to this jewish identity and mythos that it's weird to see

01:02:11.220 them talk even privately about like oh no we're literally just worshiping ball so i don't know

01:02:19.140 you want to hear a spicy rumor that i heard so there's a rumor floating around in our spaces

01:02:29.480 for many years now that i didn't know what to do with i hear rumors all the time involving

01:02:35.100 different content creators and i don't want to you know substantiate it and platform it

01:02:40.360 just because it sounds interesting because you know you don't want to have your name associated

01:02:46.380 with just talking mad shit about things you don't know but the rumor was that jeffrey epstein

01:02:55.180 around the time trump was first elected he had some interest in the far right space

01:03:02.460 as i'm sure you know because we've discussed it before this explains um you know his relationship

01:03:09.100 with peter thiel even a peter thiel like figure is interested in curtis yarvin and there was some

01:03:15.180 people who are friendly enough to these types of ideas because while jeffrey epstein was a great

01:03:21.740 big honking jew he was hip to a lot of race realist talking points he was complaining about black

01:03:27.980 people email dated february 8th 2016 from jeffrey epstein to noam chomsky have seen some things

01:03:38.300 through your eyes and for that i am grateful the test score gap amongst african americans

01:03:44.300 is well documented. 20 years of testing, many counties. James Watson had some of his private

01:03:51.220 views made public, and hence his dismissal from society. Making things better might require some

01:03:57.900 uncomfortable facts. You told me that. Link provided. TheRightStuff.biz slash genes that

01:04:06.460 predict racial intelligence differences. He might make Jew jokes. Hell, he might make a Holocaust

01:04:12.820 joke so there was some interest in what's going on over here so jeffrey epstein at one point

01:04:21.140 hosted a big dinner and uh at this dinner were some far right luminaries at the time

01:04:30.920 um richard spencer greg johnson what and um there's a couple other people that uh were

01:04:41.060 rumor to have been there this is based on my recollection but you want mike enoch from the

01:04:47.380 right stuff dub is no way all these guys this this was the rumor that uh they all they all met with

01:04:56.660 jeffrey epstein who at remember jeffrey epstein at this time he was already in court for underage

01:05:05.860 sex in the 90s yeah jeffrey epstein was known it was it was well known by the public that he was

01:05:11.620 the sex trafficker yeah yeah and then he's jewish obviously and so you have these individuals who

01:05:19.700 are meeting up with the sex trafficking jew during a time when they're known that uh presumably to

01:05:25.860 get access to all his money why else would they be there right yeah the email in question was

01:05:31.620 Jeffrey Epstein referencing that dinner in this email leak because before that we just had anecdotal

01:05:39.660 evidence you know stories of people who said they knew someone who was there but we actually have

01:05:44.480 an email of Jeffrey Epstein referencing that dinner he didn't mention them by name but he

01:05:48.920 mentioned meeting with a bunch of far-right individuals. Email dated June 23rd 2018.

01:05:55.160 at my dinner table I asked why are you right-wing guys so anti-semitic one said historically we all

01:06:05.380 know it's actually the Jews behind the government's actually pulling the strings I said like

01:06:11.300 who and one pointed at me and they all started to roar with laughter me and one guy said how do you

01:06:20.420 explain in only three days there have been princes prime and other ministers emissaries plus two

01:06:26.620 presidents of world bodies guilty so funny what the fuck so laugh it off that's that the the irony

01:06:39.540 shield thing again it's like i mean i'm doing it right now bobby can't can you really blame me

01:06:44.500 and jeffrey epstein if you see him in interviews he talks very strangely he's like he talks like

01:06:50.300 like he's he's laid back he's like this like he's he almost tries to enact like a sexual tone in his

01:06:57.740 voice he's like yeah i guess i'm just a jew and i'm i'm trying to buy you yeah he would say it

01:07:04.620 like that now the question is what does taking that meeting mean i heard some people say that

01:07:12.380 he just went to a meeting people go to meetings all the time dimes wouldn't you go to a meeting

01:07:17.180 like that with an epstein with a peter teal and you know at one point i said i might take the

01:07:24.140 meeting but do it for the content it might be fun to be flown out to peter teal's island

01:07:30.680 have the dinner in his fucking dome whatever his disco ball whatever the fuck he's got going on

01:07:38.440 over there and then just bring it to the show and just spill the beans on whatever happened there

01:07:43.980 right yeah and then wind up at the bottom of the lake one of the bottom lake or you become

01:07:49.620 known as a guy who goes to meetings and blabs about it and from a professional perspective

01:07:55.880 you don't want to be associated with that or i don't want to be associated with that i don't

01:07:59.660 want to be a guy of course you don't want if i invite this guy to a meeting maybe he goes out

01:08:04.180 and starts you know divulging all these details let's stay away from him it's very unprofessional

01:08:10.000 That's one.

01:08:11.240 Two, and I've come to understand this as I've gotten older,

01:08:16.120 taking the meeting sends a signal throughout the entire extended network.

01:08:22.940 A meeting means something, especially if you're in politics,

01:08:27.000 if you're in finance, if you're known to be taking a meeting

01:08:29.800 or seen to be taking a meeting with someone.

01:08:32.820 Rumors, it's known that means something to a lot of people.

01:08:36.160 and so you need to be careful about the meetings that you take and it's you're just an employee

01:08:42.460 or a laborer or someone not from that world if you think any different you think it's just

01:08:47.400 harmless there's no harmless meetings every meeting means something and so for that reason

01:08:51.380 i don't think i would take the epstein meeting unless i wanted the money in which case i'd be

01:08:56.920 completely compromised but there's no there's no story in which i'm just going there for fun i'm

01:09:01.360 just going there to yuck it up isn't it weird right so proceeding from there the mike enox of

01:09:09.880 the world ever the greg johnsons right they might say well what did the meeting mean well here's

01:09:15.720 another aspect of the rumor that wasn't divulged in the emails but up until now it seems that this

01:09:21.940 rumor has been validated so let's just include this they had to sign ndas they weren't allowed

01:09:26.780 talk about it because they had to sign ndas right so even though it's out right now i find that these

01:09:33.740 individuals are not talking about it they're not bringing up they're they're telling you i mean

01:09:38.780 mike enoch and striker and everyone's saying you'll just pay attention to the fact that he's

01:09:43.180 a jewish sex trafficker nope hold on hold on well he was a jewish sex trafficker back then when you

01:09:48.060 met with him guys all right but also you signed an nda so you knew that you could have not signed

01:09:55.100 it and left right you thought the nda was worthy of being signed because you wanted to be kept a

01:10:01.180 secret yeah and even though epstein was fucking dead and this whole thing is just a void now you

01:10:09.600 still didn't talk about it you still won't talk about it yeah you for many years you apparently

01:10:15.220 thought it was significant enough to keep it a secret to keep your meeting with the billionaire

01:10:22.100 jewish sex trafficker like i said before the the very type of guy that adolf hitler

01:10:30.420 your idol was trying to protect germany from you're there eating drumsticks pouring out the ranch

01:10:40.580 you know it's just like enoch pouring out the ranch beside epstein i can imagine it

01:10:46.660 but and here's the for anyone else you know if it if it was a curtis yarvin if it was

01:10:55.040 well yarvin is jewish so i mean yarvis is is our is already a controlled opposition

01:11:01.120 i mean i'm trying to think someone that's like on the fence good point i don't know why i said

01:11:04.660 that i should know better someone who's like on the fence right who like like uh michael malice

01:11:09.440 michael malice is also jewish he's also completely controlled yeah what what are we what are we

01:11:13.580 learning in this conversation but um just invent someone invent invent invent a right-wing figure

01:11:22.380 that's not jewish well spencer spencer and enoch to me are interesting ones because they were both

01:11:27.140 really i mean spencer especially not only white but like waspy white so i was going to say was

01:11:34.420 there's certain people that perhaps could be forgiven for doing that unless you are someone

01:11:41.860 that is trying to beat the air net's top anti-semite unless you're someone and at the time

01:11:48.520 spencer would have been all right so he was more against jews at the time i'm sure he really is

01:11:53.180 anymore he's trying to seek them out as benefactors it appears to me anyway but like if you're trying

01:11:59.880 to be hitler's top guy in 2025 and 2026 if you're trying to be the tip of the spear for anti-semitism

01:12:08.080 online you can't be taking these meetings your credibility should be absolutely fucking shot

01:12:18.240 you got the stink of this thing on you you're all fucking hypocrites you were you went there

01:12:23.200 because you were entertaining taking money from a jewish sex trafficker and because you want to

01:12:28.480 be like the only thing you have is anti-semitism that's all you fucking have that's all you talk

01:12:34.640 about and richard spencer too but it explains richard spencer it explains the greg johnson

01:12:42.400 this explains the elite human capital sphere the anatoly carlins all these guys that broke from

01:12:48.720 the alt-right and they you know we joked before that they've been trying to appeal to liberals i

01:12:54.640 don't think so i think they've been trying to appeal to jews i think they've been trying to

01:12:57.680 appeal to the jeffrey epstein's i think they've been trying to appeal to the money and find a

01:13:02.000 landing place that is separate from and that's what epstein was doing remember what was epstein

01:13:07.760 doing what was peter thiel doing what is peter thiel doing they are trying to look at the energy

01:13:14.320 in the dissident right and the alt-right at the time and figure out what can we do with this

01:13:19.120 what can we do with these people that seem to be in the news they seem to get something like there's

01:13:23.440 young people that are interested this is what they did with nick fuentes recently successfully i

01:13:28.880 might add but they were asking what can we do with this how can we mute or how can we separate them

01:13:34.960 from the parts that we don't like let's just say the anti-semitism what can we do with these guys

01:13:39.680 to refocus on race refocus on you know whatever topic might be and get rid of what they might

01:13:45.760 call the grug brain stuff get rid of the chud stuff this is what richard spent has been about

01:13:52.640 this is why he's been trying to separate himself from who he believes to be low class

01:13:56.640 class that seem to be you know getting their you know getting their stink on him right so i really

01:14:04.020 do think he's just looking for money and investment i do think he's looking for a landing place for

01:14:09.080 him and so are many other of these expats from the alt-right or the dissident right that's all

01:14:15.120 it is i don't think it's i don't even think liberalism is part of it because people think

01:14:19.020 oh they're trying to be mainstream i'm like i don't think so i think they want money i think

01:14:22.400 they want investment i think they see where that investment is coming from and i think that

01:14:26.680 the first thing you have to do is start throwing your former comrades under the bus which is what

01:14:34.360 they do anyway i gave you a lot there what do you think about all this no i mean i agree that's the

01:14:39.520 pattern that i've been observing like nick fuentes is probably one of the biggest one of the biggest

01:14:43.580 examples of that lately he's saying openly that he now has working in the same sponsor group as

01:14:49.220 mark 11 so like you're you went from world's biggest anti-semite to paid by the jews and not

01:14:55.100 only are you kind of moderating your position but you're also gatekeeping um the people who

01:15:00.620 were previously your followers and that's a pattern you know it's a pattern with spencer

01:15:04.540 it's a pattern with all like who knows maybe that is actually what happened behind the scenes with

01:15:09.100 trs and nobody really knows it's not like at all you know we don't have the emails for them the

01:15:14.440 same way we have the epstein emails so i mean this is the question is has this ever not been

01:15:20.920 happening yeah exactly ever not been subverted by this this archetype the billionaire the

01:15:29.780 billionaire pervert jew you get dissident groups and dissident groups always have the one whore

01:15:35.120 who gets in there because it's a frontier a sexual frontier and you know even as as like weird kids

01:15:42.480 who aren't even good with girls you have a group of five boys you always have one girl who gets in

01:15:47.380 there one weird fat chick who's just like fall you know what i mean and i think the jews are

01:15:52.540 operating the same way in this case where people always say like there's always one fed in the

01:15:57.360 chat there's probably always one jew in the chat or rather any one like loci of social control

01:16:04.300 in the dissident space there's always going to be a jew trying to tap it and because we have so

01:16:09.920 little power and they have so much it seems like a lot of the time it works and we just don't hear

01:16:13.520 about it because they're pretty good at covering it sucks man the more things change might stay the

01:16:18.880 same like i was saying like with it's the same type of check it's causing causing it's the same

01:16:27.440 as i said jewish billionaire pervert who is saying hey who wants free money and then everyone swarms

01:16:36.560 to them this is going this was happening in the alt-right this was happening back when they said

01:16:42.660 everything was better remember the alt-right days remember when everything was still interesting

01:16:47.200 this was happening so we got to move on to one other thing we don't have enough to cover some

01:16:55.000 of the news i want to we'll get to next episode people don't worry i just want to mention a bit

01:16:59.800 of show news their early bird tickets are still on sale for the april event go to coacanada.com

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01:18:35.340 it's called it's called the the something ogre it's like the outrageous ogre something that too

01:18:42.040 and uh the entire piece was about how when the democrats take over we're going to imprison all

01:18:48.340 the white guys like this is like project 2025 but now libs are doing it you remember when everyone

01:18:55.340 who was on trump's i was saying we're gonna fucking kill you and put you in the crystal

01:18:59.740 they're they're doing that but it sucks but but it sucks but it's also just white guys like they're

01:19:05.300 just openly saying like every white forget all the other types of people have overturned they

01:19:10.380 just assume it's white guys and it's like we're gonna put you in camps and sexually humiliate you

01:19:14.620 which is totally disproportionate to what 2025 was but also this is what you should expect because

01:19:20.460 it always ratchets up oh of course these people are out there um and it's i like shining a

01:19:26.920 spotlight on that because i don't know everyone says nothing ever happens it's a an era of nothing

01:19:34.940 burgers and something hot dogs but i do feel like we're on the precipice of something i mean we have

01:19:42.400 been seeing some pretty outrageous political violence yeah people say nothing happens like

01:19:46.740 stuff is happening it's just not the way that you imagined it right like the thing in minnesota is

01:19:51.320 winding down but i would say that is a thing that happened it happened in the sense that we now know

01:19:56.440 for sure that you were being robbed blind to the tune of billions by browns with an iq of a

01:20:03.360 fucking pomegranate so that happened they just didn't go to prison which is also a thing that

01:20:08.800 happened so like what you wanted to hear about you wanted to hear that they all got lined up and shot

01:20:14.540 but sorry sorry well the way i ended the episode and i'll just reveal it now was um one thing that

01:20:25.340 if you'll recall think back to charlottesville speaking of the right stuff dot biz uh remember

01:20:31.400 all those all right figures they met to defend that statue of robert e lee being taken down

01:20:38.620 and they marshaled their forces and antifa the drop of the hat brought like 5 000 people there

01:20:44.020 to overwhelm them and compare that to all the other leftist protests you've seen

01:20:49.220 up into up to and including what we're seeing in mississota minnesota i almost said mississauga

01:20:55.620 which also i heard they might be the case soon but the idea is that leftists and progressives

01:21:02.640 they have that ability to really organize very well and we don't and i said what he was proposing

01:21:10.160 that subset was once trump is out of office once whatever democrats in office they're going to hunt

01:21:16.720 down ice agents they're going to hunt down and prosecute them for crimes against humanity

01:21:22.960 whatever might be let's say that's the case would we take to the streets would we march just as the

01:21:30.800 leftists are to they're showing up in tens of thousands to defend a bunch of illiterate somalians

01:21:38.940 who are stealing their money and sending it home to terrorists would we meet to defend these ice

01:21:45.560 agents who are doing what we want to do which is deporting illegal immigrants would we do that or

01:21:50.320 would we just say i'm not going to march for a system pig you know like almost certainly yeah

01:21:56.500 that's what would happen and it would be circular firing squads we'd all find an excuse not to do it

01:22:01.320 and that's the problem and so i said let's just maybe take them at their word let there's some

01:22:06.820 people who are saying that when the democrats take power in america they're coming for us and

01:22:11.680 there's a lot of people who believe that when they say it um you know mainstream or fairly

01:22:17.320 mainstream people they're saying because trump is fucking up because trump failed to prosecute

01:22:21.440 where he should have prosecuted he's opening the floodgates for our eventual persecution i said

01:22:26.340 okay well what what are we doing about that what are you doing about that are you from is anyone

01:22:31.060 preparing for that are you getting your are you finding the lawyers who are friendly to our side

01:22:37.120 are you do we have safe houses antifa does they have safe houses they've got mutual aid networks

01:22:44.460 we all laugh at that but they if you're within that network there's places you can go to hide

01:22:51.380 to do things they're giving each other jobs a lot of the times they're it's it's way more of a robust

01:22:57.700 lifestyle than we have like if if they were to do this to like antiva knows what they can do and

01:23:03.780 they're crazy organized they're they're pulling off you know operational stuff in some of these

01:23:10.820 instances that is pretty surprising and pretty advanced and some of them are pretty well armed

01:23:16.180 it's like do we have anything like that and if we're convinced that this the pendulum could

01:23:21.700 swing the other way what the is anyone doing to prepare for we have a few years

01:23:27.140 right now would be the time because trump isn't going to be the guy you think he is

01:23:31.780 let's just admit it he's letting too much stuff fall by the wayside okay you're gonna be on your

01:23:36.900 own soon and i just i don't know i think if people if you're the type of saying like

01:23:41.140 Like, Civil War is on the horizon.

01:23:43.860 You know, when's the Dems take power?

01:23:45.420 Okay, like, assume they are.

01:23:48.020 Assume they're going to fucking rape you to death

01:23:50.240 because they're writing substacks where they say they want to.

01:23:54.800 And they think it's funny.

01:23:56.560 You know what they do to your kids.

01:23:58.780 What do you think they're going to do to you?

01:24:01.200 You know, so like, well, what are we doing?

01:24:02.820 It's just, I wonder what anyone's doing about anything.

01:24:06.320 Well, nothing is the answer, and we're not going to.

01:24:09.060 Like, it's kind of part of our side.

01:24:10.940 it's baked in and has been for a long time that we don't really organize that's been the main topic

01:24:16.460 of conversation um in our group for years now is how do we just bring people together enough

01:24:23.780 like we are the strong competent ones but we just fucking refuse to cooperate or form groups

01:24:29.500 and they are the fat incompetent retards who naturally form mobs like they can close their

01:24:37.860 eyes and bang a mob appears right so i don't know i don't know what to do about that yeah so anyway

01:24:45.000 subscribe to real secret coffee hours to learn more so i know we we went a bit over but i wanted

01:24:52.860 to review this book that i read that i thought was really interesting all right so this was a

01:25:00.500 relatively recent book it was published in 2017 but the title is maximum canada why 35 million

01:25:09.840 canadians are not enough written by doug saunders so we've talked before on the show about the

01:25:17.680 century initiative which was a plan inspired by uh some comments by wilford laurier but

01:25:26.520 really instigated throughout the mid 20th century by various economists and industrialists and

01:25:33.620 political scientists uh stating that they want to get a candidate to a population of around 100

01:25:41.740 million by 2100 so you know within 100 years 100 million people and so this is a pretty old idea

01:25:49.440 but uh this is a book that addresses that and actually it makes a case for why we should pursue

01:25:56.280 that so i went into it thinking i would hate this book you know because i fundamentally disagree

01:26:02.600 with the premise right i wasn't prepared for finding some of the points it was making if

01:26:10.100 pretty illuminating and you know i i agree with the components of this argument i don't agree

01:26:17.320 with the conclusion but the history of and the justification for why that might make sense

01:26:25.920 seems to work it works more than I thought it would but uh I wrote a thing back in 2000

01:26:31.680 where I interviewed a bunch of demographers on the question of what would be the ideal

01:26:36.380 population of Canada and what they pointed and my question was if we wanted to expand

01:26:40.240 Canada's population without occupying any more land than we currently do without using any more

01:26:45.100 than the tiny strip of land along the bottom and a couple dots in the middle that we currently

01:26:48.120 live on without having any more sprawl or anything, just increasing the density of the

01:26:51.380 current areas that we live on, what would be the ideal Canadian sustainable population?

01:26:57.320 And the answer, Paul, what they said was if Canada, if that little tiny area of Canadian

01:27:01.140 land had the population density that Northern Europe did, that Scandinavia or the Netherlands

01:27:04.720 did, then we'd have 400 million people here, right? And there was a popular answer among

01:27:11.500 many people, 100 million would sort of be ideal.

01:27:13.220 so before we start like what i just told you 100 million canadians by the year 2100

01:27:19.940 what's your gut reaction to that i'm i mean if we're talking about the current status of canada

01:27:26.480 i think the solution right now is depopulation i think the number of canadians who belong here

01:27:31.780 are probably closer to 4 million um do you think that that's the ideal now like could we know well

01:27:38.740 that's my point it's we're talking about you know we're living through a housing crisis and a cost

01:27:42.940 the living crisis which is a result of mass immigration so we obviously want fewer people

01:27:47.820 because we don't have the the economy to support people i mean look that's the nice way of saying

01:27:54.140 there's a lot of actual reasons but the one thing you can say which is true is we do not have

01:27:59.100 the housing or infrastructure institutions to support this many people that being said

01:28:02.940 a universe where the the cosmos are full of 10 trillion canadians living on dyson spheres

01:28:11.900 is beautiful to me you know so how many people can canada support as an ideal nation fucking 500

01:28:17.460 million a billion why not we could have arcologies in the arctic i'd love to see it but i mean i

01:28:23.360 don't know what the context look what are we talking about here you know i knew we'd bring

01:28:27.280 up dyson spheres i knew it i gotta do it this guy loves dyson spheres so much even after playing

01:28:34.220 dyson sphere program i look i knew about dyson spheres way before i played that game i knew about

01:28:39.840 too but that made me not want to pursue dyson yeah i mean dyson spears are i should have said dyson

01:28:44.980 swarm because that's more feasible but it's just a lot of work but just an o'neill cylinder i take

01:28:51.080 an o'neill cylinder with 150 000 canadians how about that like ed o'neill no but uh so because

01:28:59.060 when people imagine dyson sphere i think what they imagine is like a giant concrete sphere around the

01:29:05.200 start but why would it need to be completely solid like that right no it wouldn't it wouldn't

01:29:11.360 it actually a mesh would make more sense it wouldn't even be it wouldn't even be a mess i

01:29:15.580 mean the dyson sphere is it's an it's a neat concept but i don't think it actually it doesn't

01:29:19.520 really work physically but a swarm is like layers layers of orbits all above and below each other

01:29:25.240 that kind of block out the sun through their volume is a little more realistic yeah yeah

01:29:30.560 instead of just like just build like literally a giant steel ball around it yeah um i was going to

01:29:40.000 talk about a video game i was playing recently called metal garden that's kind of like that's

01:29:43.600 a super i'm sick of superstructure games you know i mean i think the last game that did it right is

01:29:49.840 halo but there's been such interest in like what if it's a giant recursive superstructure they get

01:29:56.080 lost in it's the size of a solar system it's trendy right now i hate yeah hey men are all

01:30:04.480 men are about the superstructures and women they're about animals still it seems

01:30:12.320 all right so he makes some claims here that i don't know if i can trust completely or the wording

01:30:19.280 seems like it could be tricky but it lines up with one of the problems that we've talked about

01:30:25.200 on the show before but especially in some communities recently but i'll just say it here

01:30:30.080 let me pull it up on the screen here it says during most of the 19th century and for many

01:30:36.960 decades in the 20th canada sent more people to other countries than it received as immigrants

01:30:42.800 when the largest immigration boom in history was sending more than 40 million people from europe

01:30:47.520 to the new world in the second half of the 19th century canada suffered a net migratory loss

01:30:53.680 mostly to the united states only as it approached the centennial did canada begin to grow and

01:30:58.720 develop in a way that other western countries had begun a century earlier as a consequence canada

01:31:04.800 still faces structural problems of underpopulation with so few people inhabiting such geography it's

01:31:10.560 difficult to build durable institutions and economies um so there's a couple things there

01:31:18.480 that i find interesting so he the the solution given in this book is that canada must reach 100

01:31:24.840 million people it's treating canada more like an economic zone and it can achieve that through

01:31:29.760 mass migration so right there i'm sure we disagree with it however he is pointing to something that

01:31:36.240 i think we've experienced in our lives that it's very difficult for canada to retain talent we do

01:31:44.400 lose a lava population to the US, specifically our entrepreneur class. And also, and I would

01:31:51.980 argue anyone that has a creative mind. Most people, if they've got sort of an innovative

01:31:57.400 mind, he gives an example in this book of Alexander Graham Bell. Canada lauds him as

01:32:03.900 the inventor of the telephone. Graham Bell is a national hero. Alexander Graham Bell,

01:32:08.540 he moved here i believe from scotland and he conducted many experiments here but eventually

01:32:14.720 he moved to massachusetts why did he move to massachusetts he needed investment he needed a

01:32:21.200 different environment so that he could actually build this thing he only did part of it in canada

01:32:26.060 and there's many inventors i think share the same story many entrepreneurs and we can we've gone off

01:32:32.960 on this before and we could go off on it again but starting a business in canada is a god nightmare

01:32:39.220 nightmare you can't you can't do it why would you why would you when america's right there

01:32:43.620 go start your business over there or anywhere else in the world china russia go to fucking africa

01:32:49.800 start a fiefdom that's easier than starting a lemonade stand in ontario but that that's he's

01:32:58.460 making the argument that that's part of our national character and i've come to understand

01:33:02.020 that to be true that we almost don't want the entrepreneur we've always been chasing them

01:33:07.300 towards america and we've almost preferred a different sort of laborer up here perhaps to

01:33:14.500 our own detriment we sought farmers rather than rather than people who were going to start

01:33:19.780 businesses we saw immigration for the longest time as a matter of units of labor to be plugged into

01:33:25.060 farms and then later to be plugged into factories rather than communities of people who would create

01:33:29.860 economies of their own. And this was an explicit mission under McDonald, under Laurier, under

01:33:36.900 Borden, under Mackenzie King, throughout this diversity of governments, our immigration agents

01:33:42.020 during these great immigration campaigns where the vans were sent around Europe with sheafs of wheat

01:33:45.700 painted on the sides and so on, our immigration agents were instructed that if people said that

01:33:50.420 they were urban or that they were entrepreneurial or if they had an education or if they had a trade

01:33:56.340 or if they had aspirations to create something they were to be told canada's not for you

01:34:00.340 please don't come here come to the united states we wanted two categories of people

01:34:04.020 farmers and laborers who would work on farms but anyway the idea that we're actually losing a lot

01:34:10.500 of people to other countries is is interesting i don't think that's brought up enough and how

01:34:15.940 many people in canada now are still having that conversation i think there's a lot of albertus

01:34:22.100 of separatists that are serious about it they're talking about it in bc too i think they're a bit

01:34:27.540 less serious i mean our own guys talk about look the reason that i went to hong kong in the first

01:34:32.680 place is i was a business owner for a while i i had a sole proprietorship for like 18 months when

01:34:38.900 i was in my early 20s and it was just a nightmare i think i i remember the when i decided when i

01:34:45.220 finally decided it was the spring before i left i was doing my taxes and it's like the amount if

01:34:52.060 If I had to bill myself for the hours that it took me to actually do my taxes correctly, it would be like 5% of my annual wages.

01:35:00.480 It's just for all the fucking running around and the filing and for a fucking sole proprietorship that doesn't even make minimum wage.

01:35:07.980 So, and I'm like, why?

01:35:10.220 So anyways, I mean, I'm an example of that.

01:35:13.140 I know there's plenty of guys in our space, even just this week, that people are saying, you know, if things really go to shit, I love my country.

01:35:19.540 but i'd i'd rather be in the states at least their economy fucking works so yeah i i have told other

01:35:26.080 americans this i think every canadian has had one reflective moment where they've discussed with

01:35:31.720 themselves should we i do it should i move to everyone says they move to the same place move

01:35:36.100 to fucking texas or something right everyone everyone just ends up in austin but uh no one

01:35:41.740 to go to ohio that might be a better place for them to move um point being that most canadians

01:35:49.980 have thought seriously about it because they are driven to think seriously about it just the sheer

01:35:56.140 economics of it so i think that's i don't see that getting better unfortunately anyway he's

01:36:03.420 going to give some numbers here that i haven't fully fact checked and i am suspicious of but

01:36:08.460 But I guess it wouldn't surprise me.

01:36:10.680 Ray says here, it's misleading to think that Canada was settled by British and French colonists.

01:36:15.960 Very few made the crossing during the first two centuries, and most of them didn't stay.

01:36:20.940 In fact, during Canada's crucial formative period, the land was overwhelmingly settled by emigrants from the U.S.

01:36:27.460 Americans, and it could be grouping loyalists in here, too, because so many loyalists, like they were formerly U.S.

01:36:34.860 yeah because we often look at it i could be wrong because we often look at it in terms of waves

01:36:40.060 right like there's the there's the the voyageurs and there's the court of law and there's the

01:36:43.820 loyalists but we don't always talk about it in terms of raw numbers we think in terms of like

01:36:49.260 the time the order that they arrived in but i mean there were i'm just ballparking there were

01:36:54.540 probably 50 or 100 times more loyalists than there were court of war you know yeah absolutely and the

01:37:02.620 reason i like this like there's something to this is because i know as we've covered in previous

01:37:07.660 books that our business class especially was infiltrated by american interests who are always

01:37:14.540 agitating for closer trade with america so we've had a problem of american presence in ontario and

01:37:25.740 quebec at least and that's where a lot of this focus is on is is ontario quebec it says americans

01:37:31.740 were the first major population group to settle permanently in canada in more than token numbers

01:37:37.100 and they were dominating cam's population for six decades by 1812 upper canada had a hundred

01:37:43.980 thousand residents and 90 of them were u.s born and again i think they might he might be being

01:37:49.180 tricky with the language there because so many of the loyalists were technically coming up from

01:37:54.860 america anyway he said but he says less than a fifth of this population were the legendary

01:38:00.540 loyalists like i don't i need to check those numbers yeah i don't know he says the newly

01:38:06.640 constructed anglican churches of upper canada found their pews bypassed by the colony swelling

01:38:11.760 baptist and methodist congregations office yeah i don't i don't know i don't buy that

01:38:17.540 yeah okay and i mean some basically what it's not a lie but like where's he getting right

01:38:23.680 is there some semantic game being played here they only just built those anglican churches but

01:38:28.460 nobody ever actually went to them. Nope.

01:38:30.340 Yeah. Nope.

01:38:32.320 It goes on here. It says the majority of

01:38:34.380 the 19th century was marked by a nearly

01:38:36.360 continuous hemorrhage of people.

01:38:38.560 During these decades, underpopulation

01:38:40.140 became a permanent and lasting feature

01:38:42.220 of Canadian economic, political,

01:38:44.360 and cultural life. In response

01:38:46.340 to the political crisis of the late

01:38:48.140 1830s, Britain decided

01:38:50.320 that its Canadian colonies needed a major

01:38:52.420 immigration push in order to displace

01:38:54.580 lower Canada's Francophones

01:38:56.260 and upper Canada's US-born

01:38:58.060 democracy tolerant population so there were moves i think if if the numbers weren't that dominating

01:39:06.200 there was a presence of like no one's doubting that no one's questioned that there was an american

01:39:10.520 presence and i do think that britain and france were trying to address that in some way um it

01:39:17.940 says canada's population growth until the 20th century was entirely due to fertility large

01:39:22.520 families permitted the population to rise to 5.3 million despite the near constant exodus away

01:39:28.100 from the country's failing economy the population would have been millions more if not for that

01:39:33.060 migratory loss um he says in the 1850s canadians were forced to confront a basic truth that had

01:39:40.440 been previously half concealed by the i like this part the artificial economies of empire

01:39:46.000 but were evident to anyone living in the cities says that canada is part of a north american

01:39:51.840 economy and culture not a european one britain was increasingly uninterested in maintaining and

01:39:57.920 paying for a north american territorial outpost and for that matter so was france that this was

01:40:04.420 the experience of many of the canadian colonists that france didn't give a shit about them and i

01:40:10.300 think the quebecois the canadians were the first to understand that they were pretty much on their

01:40:16.580 own yeah they need to forge their own identity i mean there were already cases a century earlier

01:40:21.020 where they either stayed out of a war on France's side

01:40:24.280 or even joined with France's enemies.

01:40:26.620 Yeah.

01:40:27.480 It said,

01:40:29.120 Canada's borders and political relations with the United States

01:40:31.860 remained largely closed.

01:40:33.500 The next several years embroiled Canada

01:40:36.200 in a debate over how to open them

01:40:38.100 and how to turn away from this minimizing vision.

01:40:41.840 And something he mentions that other books have mentioned

01:40:43.840 is that Canada,

01:40:46.460 across many different prime ministers,

01:40:48.260 had an interest in isolationism

01:40:50.720 in constraining itself at least when it came to its relationship with america but

01:40:54.960 like it wasn't that interested in an economic boom the same way america was it didn't embrace

01:41:01.980 industry like that it didn't embrace entrepreneurship and as we discussed in

01:41:08.280 that book freedom wears a crown by john farthing it's because we have a different relationship

01:41:13.320 with liberty that liberty features very prominently in the american psyche it doesn't

01:41:19.120 so much factor in here even though we've been so inundated by american culture for so long

01:41:30.160 he's talking here uh over the preceding decades most ambitious and inventive immigrants to canada

01:41:35.760 had quickly departed to the united states the colonies were left with a self-selected group

01:41:40.960 who didn't want much from life an agrarian very religious austere population of peasants and

01:41:46.720 laborers who tended to see change and growth as a threat rather than an opportunity and a consumer

01:41:52.400 economy being generally sinful so i had no desire to create this massive consumer marketplace it

01:42:00.160 still doesn't like when he talks about this i still detect that in canadians like you know for

01:42:05.600 better or worse we don't seem to love entrepreneurship we don't really have an

01:42:09.040 interest in consumerism um and when he says we're i think it is true that he says canada was more

01:42:14.720 interested in becoming a more labor oriented and agrarian population i see that as a feature not a

01:42:23.040 bug that's interesting to me like i think there's something there because as i said on um it might

01:42:29.120 have been millennial i said despite that canada has such a rich history of first of all we have

01:42:37.680 some of the best academic institutions on earth which is wild right and we have so many engineers

01:42:44.160 and we have such an interesting relationship with new media you know with the marshall cluens and

01:42:50.320 the herald in this is like we've produced a lot of very you know mind-bending philosophers for this

01:43:01.040 this poor little rinky dink agrarian population like it there's a lot of stuff about canada

01:43:07.040 shouldn't exist but it does i think that's interesting what do you think about that yeah

01:43:10.800 absolutely absolutely i think i think we're more communitarian too like i think of like think of

01:43:16.980 the concept of hoas that they have in the states where you have one bitch who's so proprietarian

01:43:21.880 about her property that she like ruins everybody's day and this happens constantly and people defend

01:43:26.740 it but i mean to my understanding that essentially never happens in canada we don't it's not that we

01:43:31.620 don't have the legal capacity to do it we just don't do it it's unthinkable to have somebody

01:43:36.600 destroy your community like that unless they're brown but i mean yeah it was interesting is you

01:43:42.000 know with the peasant as he may disparagingly say this is more the blood and soil minded person you

01:43:50.280 know they're not the hawks are they're not an urbanite and so can you still have an industrious

01:43:57.240 and industrial and technologically oriented society with that type of person i think so

01:44:03.880 i think canada has proven that because i don't think just change that much organized differently

01:44:07.940 which means that do we need to have a population of 100 million because the reason they want to

01:44:14.180 have a population of 100 million is to create a sovereign marketplace so with our population

01:44:20.160 it's very difficult for us to have that sort of economy because we can't be horizontally

01:44:25.740 aligned we can't we can't just have our own marketplace we need to service another marketplace

01:44:31.300 but if we got to 100 million we can have just this perpetual motion machine so that's what

01:44:37.500 they're thinking but do we want that do we need that is there something we do we need to be a

01:44:45.680 service-based white-collar consumerist society is there another option and i think now more than

01:44:54.600 ever as we enter the 21st century i think there is like you'll need to want to be america at the

01:45:00.740 turn of the 20th century you see what i'm saying then maybe that's over maybe that the way of

01:45:06.040 structure that economy is fucking done maybe you can do more now with less people anyway um because

01:45:12.860 look we've been trying look what they've been doing they've been trying to get to that 100

01:45:17.120 million number for a while now and look who they've been bringing in you know because maybe

01:45:22.340 some of the best minds the the types of immigrants you do want they want to go to america maybe can

01:45:29.180 only gets the shit.

01:45:31.360 You think everything about that?

01:45:33.720 Maybe Canada will be

01:45:35.260 lucky to get Mexicans.

01:45:37.520 Have you thought about that?

01:45:39.300 That's grim.

01:45:42.540 So it

01:45:43.460 continues on here. It says,

01:45:44.480 Even the most conservative politicians knew

01:45:46.600 that the long-term success of Confederation

01:45:48.840 would require more people.

01:45:51.240 Its first 30 years involved

01:45:52.800 a near-constant campaign to

01:45:54.700 persuade people, mainly British people,

01:45:56.980 to settle in Canada.

01:45:58.800 The complete failure of this campaign was not for lack of trying.

01:46:02.500 Canada developed its first immigration bureaucracy during these decades.

01:46:06.880 Ottawa made it very clear from the outset that Canada did not want those who would immigrate to the United States.

01:46:12.620 Educated people, merchants, entrepreneurs, urbanites.

01:46:16.540 Canada wanted farmers and not much else.

01:46:18.980 Even those creative and entrepreneurial people who did emerge from Canada's population soon found an order to profit from the talents they needed to leave Canada,

01:46:27.260 which lacked the resources markets and institutions they needed to make their ideas work yes and

01:46:33.260 that's again that's completely true i never really heard that brought up before and again this this

01:46:37.980 is written by someone who may be loathed to be mentioned by people like us but no lie detected

01:46:46.940 you know and this is something that even gen z is complaining about now um so and he goes on to why

01:46:53.100 100 million it says beyond it's being simply an appealing round number like other million numbers

01:47:00.120 i've heard of there's a history behind 100 million is roughly the population we'd have today

01:47:06.300 if wilfrid laurier's hopes had been realized it had been mooted as an ideal canadian population

01:47:11.780 by numerous politicians including winston churchill the 100 million figure seems to be a

01:47:17.280 constantly rediscovered benchmark of canadian success as measured by economic analysis in 1968

01:47:24.400 a group of scholars policy advocates and business leaders formed the mid canada development corridor

01:47:30.800 foundation which argued that for a sustainable independent economy the operative word here being

01:47:36.700 independent required at least 100 million so that's at least 100 million so by the time you

01:47:43.340 get closer to the year 2100 they could be at this copy 200 million and wherever the fuck like if

01:47:49.800 you're if you're trying to establish your economic sovereignty against america if america ends up as

01:47:53.940 700 million people do you then need to be 300 million people you know i mean like maybe yeah

01:48:00.220 this this gets more out of control um he goes on here and i know we gotta get going soon so i'll

01:48:07.260 just wrap up with a few more points here he says it was an article of faith that canada's success

01:48:13.060 both in population and economic growth was a result of the wheat boom canada believed itself

01:48:18.660 to be a rural country and ardently believed that's economy was fundamentally agrarian and

01:48:23.780 resource-based after all it had been so throughout then it had been so through the 19th century

01:48:29.300 and just to maybe sidebar there i think that is still true i still think there's a lot of

01:48:36.180 resource-based uh opportunity here in canada maybe not so much agrarian i i think the the bones of

01:48:44.520 our economy are resource-based that hasn't changed i do think our gdp is primarily service-based but

01:48:51.360 that's just i mean that's just the fucking global economy that's just financialization right that's

01:48:56.820 where the money is but in terms of if you if you discount the fact that that shit doesn't actually

01:49:03.440 have any value yeah we don't we don't have any manufacturing we don't have any research and

01:49:07.820 technology so it's just it's resources it's mining fishing agriculture timber or at least to get to a

01:49:16.320 point where you can you know use that momentum to get more into manufacturing industry which is what

01:49:23.700 a lot of other nations do like you start with a resource extraction to build up a base

01:49:28.500 which is kind of what we were talking about on the last live stream about building these

01:49:35.060 factories for the sake of factories to what can be possible in canada if we wanted to

01:49:40.540 um he continues on here sift in in his most famous sentence declared that his ideal immigrant was

01:49:46.740 quote a stalwart peasant in a sheepskin coat born to the soil whose forefathers had been farmers for

01:49:53.680 10 generations with a stout wife

01:49:55.740 and half a dozen children.

01:49:58.080 I think there's a lot of listeners who would say,

01:49:59.580 hell yeah.

01:50:01.540 Put an AK-47

01:50:03.820 in his hand

01:50:05.200 and give him a barn full of

01:50:07.540 robots.

01:50:10.200 Give this guy

01:50:11.340 an industrial lathe and a few

01:50:13.620 drones.

01:50:15.520 I'm there. That's the Canadian.

01:50:18.160 He

01:50:18.440 is cabinet successors and Laurier

01:50:21.540 stuck rigidly to this ideal.

01:50:23.680 I like this part.

01:50:24.660 I think you're going to like this guy.

01:50:26.640 In 1898, Sifton ordered a railway car full of Italian laborers

01:50:32.040 headed to the prairies to return to New York.

01:50:34.800 Not because they were Italian, but because they were too urban.

01:50:41.400 It might just be because they were too Italian.

01:50:44.300 They are urban Italian.

01:50:46.660 Yeah.

01:50:49.500 He even cites Harold McInnes in here.

01:50:53.360 He says,

01:51:23.360 mainly for large sale export to the British market.

01:51:28.140 By that time, however, a new political movement was rising in Canada,

01:51:32.880 one whose rallying slogan was White Canada.

01:51:36.860 Notions of racial superiority had become more or less commonplace

01:51:40.260 by the end of the 19th century.

01:51:42.020 In 1907, Canadians came out in droves to see a cross-country speaking tour

01:51:47.520 by Rudyard Kipling, who had just won the Nobel Prize in Literature.

01:51:52.160 He received lengthy ovations and admiring coverage of the newspapers

01:51:55.920 as he delivered off-the-cuff advice for stopping Asian immigration

01:51:59.740 to the Canadian West, where he owned land.

01:52:03.580 He said, quote,

01:52:04.520 Immigration is what you want in the West, Kipling told the audience.

01:52:07.600 You must have laborers there.

01:52:08.740 You want immigration, and the best way to keep the yellow man out

01:52:11.520 is to get the white man in.

01:52:13.040 If you keep out the white, then you will have the yellow man,

01:52:15.720 for you must have labor.

01:52:17.880 So this is a guy doing a whirlwind tour of Canada.

01:52:21.280 at the time um but uh many of the political establishment did not like this white canada

01:52:27.900 movement he says um laurier's efforts to not stop uh borden's anti-immigration campaign during the

01:52:35.540 tumultuous 1908 election borden embraced the white canada movement he sent a telegram to bc

01:52:42.140 conservatives that ran in the province's newspapers your message received the conservative

01:52:47.320 party stands with white canada the protection of white labor and the absolute exclusion of asiatics

01:52:54.520 in response laurier passed a new immigration law in 1910 for the first time allowed the exclusion

01:53:00.280 of immigrants based on racial or ethnic identity interesting in section 38 uh it's it's section

01:53:07.960 38 permitted the cabinet to place bans on immigrants belonging to any race deemed unsuited

01:53:13.320 to the climate or requirements of canada uh borden seized the moment the combination of

01:53:18.760 anti-immigrant whites only rhetoric in western canada was anti-american no trade or truck with

01:53:24.600 the yankee messages uh we're seeing everywhere warden wanted voters in canada that would be

01:53:29.720 consumed by the worst american afflictions no borden warned voters that canada would be

01:53:35.240 consumed by the worst american afflictions including lynchings alcohol and divorce

01:53:39.080 if any step were made towards continental integration so they were advocating for

01:53:46.520 an anti-american position by not wanting to you know integrate with america on along racial lines

01:53:55.000 or like our racism is better than their racism which is a wild thing to consider it's funny that

01:54:02.040 he says we don't want to have those lynchings up here it's like well by we don't want those lynchings

01:54:08.600 It's not that you don't like lynchings.

01:54:10.140 It's that currently there are no blacks in Canada.

01:54:13.720 And if we get blacks, we're going to have to have lynchings.

01:54:16.860 So please.

01:54:18.200 Yeah.

01:54:18.660 So I'm sort of go to the end here because it's not the longest book.

01:54:23.980 And it kind of restates the point a few times.

01:54:27.440 But he says here, on the most basic level, population doesn't matter.

01:54:32.240 Having more people does not by itself make a country more successful.

01:54:35.220 Some of the poorest and most deprived countries in the world have very large populations.

01:54:39.680 Some of the most prosperous have tiny populations.

01:54:42.340 Rather, the issue of population in overly sparse countries such as Canada is one of capacity.

01:54:53.800 Do we have the right people and the right numbers concentrated closely enough together in the right places to do the things that we want to do?

01:55:00.680 In other words, Canadians together simultaneously form a market, a group of taxpayers, a labor force, an audience for culture and media, etc.

01:55:09.780 At the moment, we have enough people to make things work reasonably well.

01:55:13.360 But if we examine each of these population groupings and their ambitions, we start to see the capacity that is missing, the potential that is unavailable.

01:55:21.240 You see, he's almost like he's working his way to a racial point there.

01:55:26.020 He's saying it's not about the number of people, it's about the quality of the people.

01:55:30.680 okay and and their relationship to each other okay and that they have the qualities that we

01:55:36.540 want that the ambitious people okay so we tried mass migration these you know you still see lips

01:55:46.580 say like they're how can we deprive these hard workers all they want to do is work hard to have

01:55:52.840 better lives like no they they want to work very little for a marginally better life

01:55:59.100 they want to work as little as possible for the easiest life that that's a better way to put it

01:56:07.200 you don't want to work hard for a good life they want to work as little as possible for an easy

01:56:11.520 life and they can get that here yeah so that conversation's over it that's become obvious to

01:56:18.520 people but it's like i i tend to agree we do need the best people in in that configuration

01:56:26.760 but as he stated at the start the biggest baby boom in canadian history the baby's biggest

01:56:35.200 population growth was due to just internal natality so why can't we do that again you

01:56:41.960 You know, like it seems that you run more risks with mass migration.

01:56:47.380 Or, you know what I'm saying?

01:56:48.740 Does that make sense?

01:56:49.820 I know this obviously makes sense, but.

01:56:51.860 Absolutely, absolutely.

01:56:52.660 But I just, I like exploring the idea of economic sovereignty.

01:56:59.920 Do we need to get to 100 million people to have a marketplace that sustains itself?

01:57:06.100 In what consumer goods?

01:57:08.600 in you know because i don't even want to get into an economic discussion on this but

01:57:14.420 you know is the american economy that stable you know is is the global economy that's stable right

01:57:20.160 now like are are we entering a new paradigm where we need to become more isolationist

01:57:26.540 and maybe that's not just through consumer goods and that's not through bullshit jobs and that's

01:57:32.860 not through fake jobs passing emails and money to each other and just trying to create enough

01:57:40.100 internal energy that this thing shines brighter and can be seen from space like like do we demand

01:57:49.140 a different sort of political economy entirely something like what japan went through something

01:57:54.980 like what turkey went through you know these they wouldn't even call themselves fascist i think in

01:58:01.920 Turkey was Kemalist.

01:58:04.420 I won't say Kermalist, but I'm sure it was

01:58:05.820 Kemalist. It was basically

01:58:07.840 fascism. The National Socialist

01:58:10.300 German Workers' Party

01:58:11.240 took Ataturk's Turkey

01:58:13.860 as inspiration.

01:58:16.120 But Japan basically did the same thing

01:58:18.120 after World War II. We've seen

01:58:19.960 instances where

01:58:21.740 these nations without the

01:58:23.860 biggest populations, without the biggest

01:58:25.820 land mass, and with a

01:58:27.900 lot of pressures working

01:58:29.840 against them were able to build that internal momentum and it wasn't necessarily done through

01:58:35.820 centralized planning either these weren't communist countries but it was a fascist model and how it

01:58:41.340 could allocate capital to productive sectors to get the economy flowing so i'm like we could just

01:58:47.480 do that and i i don't think you need 100 million people to do that no like imagine japan after

01:58:54.460 world war ii it's like well we need you know a hundred we need 300 million japanese people on

01:58:59.800 this island you know just for any for us to re-enter the global marketplace they fucking

01:59:06.220 didn't no i'm sorry it was all about it was all about social organization essentially like just

01:59:13.340 taking the people that you've got that actually work really well and putting them in a position

01:59:17.700 where they produce at their best i had to look up japan's population it's still like 124 million

01:59:26.180 that's a lot that's a lot of people for that island i don't know why i thought there was fewer

01:59:29.460 japanese people that's a lot of japanese holy smokes i think canada really is wildly spread out

01:59:39.380 for the amount of land mass that is well it's also the the projection on the map right like if you

01:59:44.420 look from the north pole canada is like it feels like it's almost the same size as australia which

01:59:49.060 i mean also has about the same population as us i think they're about 30 something million

01:59:54.980 yeah you do this in australia too i don't think australia needs 100 million people to make it

02:00:00.180 make sense no no but and uh like there actually is no way to do that there's no way to do that

02:00:05.940 without insane fertility because you can't do it through mass migration that doesn't make

02:00:11.620 fucking sense it doesn't it doesn't even work as a consumer market it doesn't work like yes

02:00:15.740 indians and browns generally buy more things but i i you know you can just export to them if that's

02:00:24.340 the case because you're only going to be they will only have money here if they're on government

02:00:29.880 subsidization anyway yeah so it's like we're i'm paying tax dollars to you to give to brown people

02:00:35.760 to buy more products that's not an economy sorry i cut you off there no i'm just thinking

02:00:41.480 about it like we probably could get to 100 million even if we say there's only 15 million actual

02:00:46.220 canadians if we raise tfr to like four and a half you could easily hit 100 million within the next

02:00:52.620 you know what what are they saying john by 2100 yeah like 2100 yeah that's we got 75 years still

02:00:58.440 you could you could do it you could do it but you'd have to get like within the next two

02:01:02.920 generations you'd have to get tfr up over four but yeah i think i think i think you could and

02:01:09.200 you know without as he had said previously hemorrhaging population towards america but

02:01:14.980 i think the idea would be that if the fertility rate is that high there has been a spiritual

02:01:21.420 revolution in canada because that's the only thing that really drives up the birth rate it's not

02:01:26.260 really materialist that there's something there's something almost metaphysical something

02:01:32.840 philosophical about what causes people to want to have lots of kids what's interesting is that

02:01:39.820 if you look at we've talked about this on the show before if you look at the birth rates more

02:01:46.140 acutely they're the types of people having the most kids now seem to be the types of people that

02:01:52.780 you want to have kids and i believe it's more um upper upper class more educated whites you know

02:02:01.240 it's interesting like whites that wouldn't use the term eugenics but are otherwise behaving

02:02:08.140 eugenically because you'll hear liberals say this where it's like oh you you too you're too smart

02:02:13.640 and beautiful you need to have lots of kids that's eugenics that's that's basically eugenics they

02:02:19.300 won't say that though but it's like oh no we need to reproduce because we're just so beautiful and

02:02:23.680 smart but yeah okay fair enough you should do that but that even that's different than the

02:02:29.720 the lower class people which is just sex equals good sex feel good and then you do it you have a

02:02:35.680 lot of kids but you don't act you don't want to raise them either and you don't it's more of an

02:02:41.340 unfortunate consequence of sex that's how like low iq people do it but the high if you're seeing high

02:02:46.800 iq have more people have more kids for rational reasons that's interesting let's continue sorry

02:02:53.840 i cut you off no i was saying like again just example liberal women who you hear complain or

02:02:59.380 fret about you know i oh my husband has this history of x and his family and then you're like

02:03:04.640 second guessing whether you should have children because you're concerned that the child will have

02:03:07.860 that disease when they're born that's you that's eugenics that's like just flawless eugenics have

02:03:13.360 you ever said the phrase i don't want to pass that down exactly this is eugenics yeah yeah and then

02:03:20.100 they're thinking along those lines and it's also people like us i'm not saying we're high aq i'm

02:03:26.280 not saying we're high performance individuals but i do think we're seeing a snowball effect here

02:03:32.120 where a lot of the people who are exposed to these ideas especially when they're young

02:03:36.620 they are coming around to having maybe not seven eight nine kids but i think that's how you get to

02:03:43.400 four kids three or four in an era where no one's having four kids you know a lot of people are

02:03:51.300 having zero or one two is is kind of the minimum people want now but getting to four is is you

02:04:00.140 don't get that unless you have a lot of big ideas in your head and you're doing it for reasons other

02:04:07.580 than you know that's just what you like the people who do that will also raise their kids

02:04:12.760 is what i'm saying and it's worth noting that when you talk about tfr of four what that actually is

02:04:17.820 is people having seven kids and because you always have people with no kids or with one kid right

02:04:22.780 even in in the olden days so you're what you're aiming for with that high tfr you're aiming for

02:04:29.780 big fucking families the seven eight nine kid families so here and there and if you keep that

02:04:36.520 up if you raise those kids in environments where there is like four five kids they're more likely

02:04:43.420 to have big families too and it's exponential at that rate you know like if it's sons and daughters

02:04:48.860 they have big families and that family has just exploded then you within a couple generations

02:04:53.760 you have a situation where people have cousins again you remember that remember having yeah i

02:04:59.600 remember having cousins that was cool yeah i had a couple now now my kids have no cousins

02:05:04.940 they don't have they can't they don't experience that um but yeah and then these people are more

02:05:11.760 likely to actually raise their kids and try and instill qualities into them and raise them

02:05:17.240 properly and so anyway we've talked about this before on the show i know we need to get going

02:05:21.960 now but i was surprised by this book how much i i liked where it was coming from i don't really

02:05:30.320 you know we'll quibble over the historical numbers but there's enough truth there and there's enough

02:05:37.200 of a problem there and i and i i'd like his assessment of the character of what the canadian

02:05:43.920 tried to be and why they struggled to keep a certain class of people around but i do think

02:05:50.000 there's a way to leverage that and just like i think there's a way to leverage you know it's easy

02:05:57.040 to get to a high birth rate if as he said what was the ideal canadian a man of the soil and a

02:06:04.440 sheepskin coat who's got six kids and yeah just add some technology on top of that add uh you

02:06:11.100 heard about these like micro reactors they're building we were talking about this in the chat

02:06:14.880 yesterday yep give that guy a micro reactor give that guy yeah man a farm yeah there's a lot there's

02:06:21.440 a lot you can do give that that guy that guy's online a lot now too so he's getting an education

02:06:27.580 you know like that i think it's easier to deal with that guy than just the urbanite who's bouncing

02:06:32.960 around the human yeah that that to me like there's so much more opportunity there yes than with uh

02:06:41.020 the the huckster urbanite we're dealing in very very loose archetypes here but anyway this has

02:06:47.520 been a great episode i'll talk to you later yeah man take care

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