Blood Satellite - There’s No Seinfeld After 9⧸11

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be a

00:00:07.840 blood satellite i tell you i'd rather be sex trafficked than stuck in sex traffic

00:00:22.780 yeah yeah well really yeah thing enough so like you'd rather be captured as a slave and sold to

00:00:34.100 a saudi prince than stuck with so much sex that you can't get off the highway or just i'm i'm

00:00:41.140 jammed up yeah they'll all be jammed up but again jammed up with too much sex there's a flickering

00:00:47.280 light bulb above my head right now that just says asian drivers

00:00:55.280 but i don't know yeah yeah so the sex stuck in sex traffic in the canadian context is it's a

00:01:01.120 lot of indians and and old asian men man i love an old asian man though just on his own

00:01:10.320 i don't even want to pervert the dignity and sanctity of an old like japanese guy who dresses

00:01:17.040 like a fucking 40 year old white guy yeah like old asian guys who love tommy hilfiger

00:01:25.680 head to toe and just like really comfortable hands clasped behind the back which i don't

00:01:31.680 know if you've noticed white men don't do anymore no when's the last time you've seen a white man

00:01:36.560 hold his hands behind his back and i'm glad that you noticed that too it's not just me but like

00:01:40.320 Like, we would joke about that in Hong Kong because my wife's grandfather would do that.

00:01:47.920 So he would do that, walk really slow, and walk behind everyone.

00:01:51.980 And if he would, like, slow down so he could catch up, he would slow down even further.

00:01:55.600 I love that.

00:01:56.080 He doesn't want to walk.

00:01:57.820 He doesn't want to be associated with you.

00:01:59.520 He just wants to walk on his own 10 paces behind.

00:02:02.200 He's like, all right, bud.

00:02:03.320 Love you, bud.

00:02:03.700 It's great.

00:02:04.340 We used to do that.

00:02:06.900 Yeah.

00:02:07.980 Yeah.

00:02:08.280 Like our old men, man, I don't know who's teaching the young men how to be old men these days.

00:02:14.560 We used to be a real country is what you're saying.

00:02:16.920 Yeah.

00:02:17.660 Well, also, we didn't.

00:02:20.300 It's true.

00:02:21.620 All right.

00:02:22.420 Also true.

00:02:23.820 We got to reinvent being old.

00:02:25.960 You know, we didn't have any inspiration from the current generations, you know?

00:02:31.100 Like you really don't want to be an old boomer.

00:02:33.460 They've had a run of being old that's really bad.

00:02:37.400 it's really disgusting frankly yeah it's pretty rough but you know you can't you can't go

00:02:45.380 course correct too much because everyone says the same thing like when i'm really old i'm gonna

00:02:51.680 start dressing in suits you know i'm gonna start dressing like a dignified old man and the keyword

00:02:58.080 there is start you're not dressing in suits now you're gonna hit an age and then larp no you're

00:03:04.260 not no you're not because you i saw the other day it was some video from you know the gentleman

00:03:11.160 sphere oh no you know these these young guys who are like cigars whiskey you know standing by a

00:03:20.080 mercedes and it was like the caption of course was why don't men dress like this anymore and it's

00:03:28.260 just a guy no joke just in downtown boston man and some fucking city dressed like peaky blinders

00:03:36.780 and if you know what i'm talking about it's like three-piece suit plus wool trench coat and hat

00:03:44.380 and driving gloves and like the the fucking pocket watch with the chain hanging in a very specific

00:03:53.180 way and then he's being filmed in the street by someone else and is trying to capture everyone

00:04:00.060 looking at him of course and i think they're interpreting the glances as envy but to me like

00:04:07.980 if i saw that guy this year i'd burst out laughing yeah you're a clown you're a clown and everyone's

00:04:13.400 just looking over the shoulder and arcing their eyebrows and i think they're interpreting that

00:04:17.780 was like wow who's that guy instead of this look at this asshole and of course he has to walk with

00:04:25.440 a swagger like they do in that stupid show yeah with a imaginary lat syndrome where your arms are

00:04:31.920 just out like a gorilla imaginary lat syndrome i haven't heard that before that's fucking great

00:04:38.880 it's a real thing if uh you get into lifting if you're in the gym and part of it's just when you

00:04:44.380 do lift you kind of you know your muscles inflate a little bit oh no i i know exactly what you're

00:04:48.860 talking about like i i felt i know that i felt that but like i didn't i've never heard it called

00:04:53.780 imaginary lat syndrome can you tell the folks at home about how your daughter is doing a bit with

00:05:02.180 you during lunch and dinner yeah so i made them like i'm a i'm a i'm a disciplinarian

00:05:11.040 with my kids a little bit stuff's on the table you have to eat it and i don't care whether you

00:05:17.460 like it i will make a note but um if it's on the table now you're eating it now or you're going to

00:05:22.900 bed days over for you end of story no discussion no complaints so i've done this enough times that

00:05:28.260 my youngest who is now about four and a half she looks at me she'll have something she'll have

00:05:34.080 like that are these dumplings are these the spicy ones no they're they're regular ones

00:05:38.380 you i don't like these ones i don't like these dumplings well you're gonna eat them

00:05:42.420 no i don't want to eat them but she's looking up at me with like a shit-eating grin while she's

00:05:46.500 saying this and she looks up and says okay fine i'll eat one and as she's eating it she's already

00:05:53.120 turned to me big wide face dad they're delicious oh this is like oh you're doing a so you're doing

00:05:59.880 a bit like because i keep telling her that if you try it once then you'll love it and it keeps

00:06:04.800 happening so now she's pretending she's pretending that she can go through the whole thing and love

00:06:11.060 it this is what we do with a lot of kids who you know you might think they're picky eaters but you

00:06:15.220 think okay if you try one bite you'll eat the rest of it who are we fooling and then so she's taken

00:06:21.920 that and i was telling judas earlier because he came by my house and man it really you know

00:06:30.680 refocuses things because we spend so long just talking online like this you forget what it's

00:06:37.360 like to converse like a real fucking human being it's really nice but i was in awe because it

00:06:43.960 occurred to me that the bits live in the blood the bits are genetic yeah yeah he passed that

00:06:50.060 down to her and she yeah people were asking me times how do you come up with spencer putty

00:06:55.900 what's your process i'm like i can't explain it i can't it just it just happens do you think some

00:07:03.500 of your bits belong to like your great-grandfather i thought you're gonna say do you think some of

00:07:08.600 your bits belong in the guggenheim and i was gonna say yes hey that too my grandfather knew

00:07:14.460 nothing of comedy by the way okay this was the the driest crisp in the bag

00:07:20.800 Maybe I am just a little fucked up

00:07:23.100 Life's just a little fucked up

00:07:24.860 So maybe it is

00:07:27.500 Or maybe you just didn't share it with me

00:07:29.080 Because you didn't think I'd get it

00:07:30.420 Could be

00:07:31.300 I'm a shitpost man

00:07:35.360 I'm also a family man

00:07:37.180 This is a family business

00:07:38.880 This is my son

00:07:41.320 Will Stancil with Hitler's feet

00:07:42.920 Like the Skroy card

00:07:43.980 Oh dude

00:07:50.180 you have seen that movie too many times it's it's in the blood if it's in the blood it's got to be

00:07:58.160 in the balls you know your your daughter one day could come up with something like oh i don't know

00:08:04.660 i'm just spitballing here hi everybody it's me penis inspector cosby yeah nigga but is there

00:08:12.900 anything worse than a female comedian i've seen more now than i think i've ever seen in the past

00:08:19.560 that i think are not only funny but shockingly funny yeah it is weird i don't know people think

00:08:26.460 i'm crazy for saying that because back in my day there was countless male comedians everyone loves

00:08:32.060 and people would bullshit about female comedians like who's your favorite female comedian they

00:08:35.860 would say sarah silverman and no one believed it because no one had seen sarah silverman's act

00:08:41.260 just know oh that's she's kind of funny and she says slurs she's kind of edgy but that you never

00:08:47.600 really liked it or someone would say maria bamford and i would say she's okay but she's

00:08:53.840 like jeremy hots she's a gimmicky comedian but i don't know i've seen some recently that are

00:09:00.000 really good and i don't know how i feel about that i i wouldn't say i like it yeah i don't

00:09:05.920 follow stand-up but i have seen i've seen some women on youtube that i think are funny so i mean

00:09:11.480 it exists it gives a shit about stand-up comedy it's yes it's over yep it's done past tense

00:09:18.300 because i think what happened was there's been so many comedians that it just redefined the mean

00:09:24.340 of society so everyone's kind of funny like everyone can kind of copy a comedian because

00:09:28.740 there's so many and you just hear about them all the fucking time yeah so everyone's everyone's

00:09:34.080 got a couple riffs so yeah as a society we are funnier so go off just go to another country and

00:09:45.320 decimate thailand oh dude that could be like our new weapon this is how we depopulate

00:09:50.680 south asia he's always it's he's always trying to do a genocide

00:09:55.880 go off king we need 500 000 six out of 10 funny go off kings to go to thailand how can i use this

00:10:06.480 for a mountain of corpses man i don't i'm so fucking chopped up and cheesed out i don't even

00:10:16.840 want a genocide anymore i just want to be a team player man yeah all right that's cool we can do

00:10:24.020 I just want to be a highly motivated team player

00:10:26.780 that excels in a high-stress environment.

00:10:28.800 And you want to synergize?

00:10:30.440 You want to capitalize on your core competencies?

00:10:34.340 Nigga, I wake up circling back.

00:10:42.920 I just had a mental image of that.

00:10:45.060 Like, you're stunned.

00:10:45.980 Like, when you wake up in the morning,

00:10:47.080 you're halfway through circling back,

00:10:48.800 and it's like, I've got to go back to sleep.

00:10:50.940 I was born putting a pin in this.

00:10:54.020 did you end up watching that bad bunny performance of the super bowl

00:11:01.700 ah i mean look i've seen clips like everybody because you have to

00:11:06.200 i feel obligated to know what everybody's talking about and i hate it i won't say i don't hate it

00:11:12.100 i kept seeing so many clips that made it seem like it was an hour long

00:11:24.020 because it seems like a story like i'm like okay how do they get from the coffee fields

00:11:31.020 to the wedding and then i think there's a performance somewhere in there but it's it

00:11:36.120 takes you on a journey and um i'm trying to get a sense of what the public actually thinks about it

00:11:44.760 angry pushback but then some people even on our side i think being contrary and saying

00:11:49.860 oh it's actually pretty good especially compared to the right wing when they did a conservative

00:11:56.580 super bowl performance just somewhere else and of course it's kid rock yeah look i like kid rock

00:12:06.440 i think kid rock has written some great songs you need to move on from kid rock yeah there's

00:12:13.000 there has to be other guys

00:12:14.940 because like even

00:12:16.880 that's very Gen X coded

00:12:19.100 too like there's no young people

00:12:20.960 in the crowd that are getting excited but Kid Rock

00:12:22.880 like Bawitabaw

00:12:24.760 that doesn't speak to young people

00:12:26.440 and he's old as shit

00:12:28.840 and then

00:12:30.860 the Kid Rock

00:12:32.200 early morning stone pimp

00:12:34.720 cowboy is stopping

00:12:37.000 his set halfway through to

00:12:38.840 do a very serious

00:12:41.020 prayer

00:12:41.520 there's a book that's sitting in your house somewhere that could use some dusting off

00:12:48.140 there's a man who died for all our sins hanging from the cross

00:12:55.640 it's so on the nose now like everything is like before look i'm not saying i don't again i don't

00:13:01.820 hate kid rock but a lot of these people that it's like oh yeah but we're actually like

00:13:04.960 performatively christian now that that's cool for the next couple of years so and he's up there

00:13:11.400 in his fucking pimp fedora

00:13:13.440 and red pants or whatever

00:13:15.260 and his

00:13:16.520 Las Vegas sunglasses

00:13:18.940 and I'm like okay I think

00:13:21.340 the left was right to criticize

00:13:23.220 that

00:13:23.740 once again I'm left asking

00:13:27.120 who is this for

00:13:28.600 I think it's just

00:13:31.300 for Marjorie Taylor Greene

00:13:32.560 it's for like

00:13:33.160 old Gen X women

00:13:36.200 honestly there has to be other

00:13:39.460 bands

00:13:40.580 the get the killers might do it i think that you could probably get the killers they're mormons

00:13:45.640 they're from vegas so they're fucked up and crazy you know i mean but but there's they're a real

00:13:50.660 band that is relevant still yeah but then they have the bad bunny one and i'm i'm just out of

00:13:58.720 touch enough that i didn't know who that was i heard his name before but i'm not the biggest

00:14:04.240 pop music guy but so i've heard about various pop music i try to keep my finger on the pulse right

00:14:08.900 i try and just like what are young people listening to these days and i get someone

00:14:13.420 through my wife because she's bigger than a tiktok and there's a lot of pop music that i do like even

00:14:19.580 though i don't listen to it right but i get why it's popular and like it's an amazing singer or

00:14:26.400 it's a really interesting production or something and i'm like that that makes sense but bad bunny

00:14:32.200 i listened to it and i thought this is really bad and really boring

00:14:35.900 and it's not even because it's spanish because that song despacito remember all that from years

00:14:50.120 ago i'm like okay that's not my cup of tea but i get why that's good and popular yeah but i hear

00:14:57.580 bad bunny song and it's it's really bad and it sounds like stock music like me like you go on

00:15:05.040 like a stock music website right now pay

00:15:06.800 $15 for a backing track

00:15:09.220 and that's what it is someone spend

00:15:11.020 15 minutes making that and

00:15:13.020 he's he can't sing and he can't rap

00:15:15.080 and so I'm just left oh yeah

00:15:17.060 and I want to blame South America

00:15:19.220 for this

00:15:19.800 I mean is it

00:15:24.700 part of it is like let's give it to the

00:15:27.080 weird brown guy but isn't he also like a gay

00:15:29.300 fuck okay

00:15:30.820 here's what my wife tells me because she's seen

00:15:32.920 interviews with this man so

00:15:34.480 here's what he loves to do is dress up like a lady he loves wearing a dress and high heel shoes

00:15:40.760 in photo shoots and in his music videos but he's emphatic that he is not gay he's super straight

00:15:48.600 but he's just an ally to the gay community i think there it is right there like that's why

00:15:54.000 this guy is their asset right this is not only is he clearly fucking gay but he's like no i'm

00:15:59.820 actually a role model for straight masculine men he's doing the the seinfeld bit he's like i'm not

00:16:07.180 gay not that there's anything right with that but i'm thinking you're from a continent that still

00:16:13.020 sets gays on fire i thought is that like is that what this is like you're i mean you're all kind of

00:16:19.140 gay in your mannerisms you know they're they're a very you might say homosexual people so i was

00:16:27.000 watching the clips and it's

00:16:29.080 very camera focused right

00:16:31.020 it's following him through these different

00:16:32.920 scenes and stuff and it's right

00:16:35.000 up close on him and as I was watching

00:16:37.160 it I was thinking I wonder what this looks

00:16:38.920 like from the stands

00:16:40.720 if you're at the game

00:16:42.860 what does this look like and someone did post a video

00:16:45.100 from a distance and you can't

00:16:47.080 see him because he's just

00:16:48.640 skulking through

00:16:50.200 you know bean fields and shit

00:16:52.860 and he's in a house now it's like

00:16:54.600 and that seemed

00:16:56.440 very interesting to me because i think this was the first super bowl performance i can think of

00:17:03.540 that was made for the camera because every performance it's like a show for the audience

00:17:07.920 and you're just filming it but this is like the audience is not the main audience it's a fuck you

00:17:13.900 to the people who spent thousands of dollars going to that show like one of the most coveted

00:17:19.460 seats that you could buy in american culture but it's also a fuck you to the viewing audience too

00:17:25.660 because they're saying we chose this i believe jay-z was the one who's responsible for picking

00:17:31.740 this these acts or he's he's integral somehow to it but i'm like this was a message to the tv viewer

00:17:39.660 this is to the viewer at home this was a message to america and some people were saying this was

00:17:45.660 this performance was superior to the shitty republican one and i said well no it's not like

00:17:51.900 kid rock you know we can say is kind of corny at this stage in the game but i'm like this is like

00:17:57.660 anti-white this is like this seems like an op to me this is the first time i think i've seen

00:18:04.460 something like this that was so clearly an op this is an op on the south american people

00:18:09.420 and also us so to me it's a lot like k-pop and i think i was laid into listening to k-pop

00:18:17.020 you know i was i'd never just from a distance i didn't understand it i know it's not for me but

00:18:22.680 then i would listen to a couple songs like okay this is catchy but you've heard k-pop before right

00:18:28.480 i'm sure i mean i don't i don't i mean i hate i hate korean people more than i hate their music

00:18:33.660 i'll put it that way thing but i get it i get it but it's like a chimera of very it's highly

00:18:40.500 corporatized i would like this i would like to say just this is a tangent a little bit of tangent

00:18:44.260 it's not actually k-pop though it's not actually korean music it is actually just our music

00:18:48.700 like korea is a colony of western civilization korean culture hasn't existed since the 1950s

00:18:53.820 they're dead they're all dead so this is essentially just like a weird perverted

00:18:57.420 version of our music but they did a cool thing with it so but it's like oh it's korean music

00:19:02.100 it's not fucking korean music it's american music there's nothing korean about it there's

00:19:06.640 nothing korean about it yeah it's highly westernized and they're speaking english half the time

00:19:11.720 but it's every song is produced by seven different people there's 20 different songwriters all of the

00:19:20.160 idols are chosen by committee it's corporate somehow and people are just selected and they

00:19:26.840 go to school for it it's the fakest thing you've ever seen yeah but you know it but sounds fake

00:19:33.100 too and i just saw one the other day that seemed to be just about eating spaghetti

00:19:37.840 and then you think okay what's that a euphemism for i'm used to fucking black women out here now

00:19:55.020 just now right saying like i they just want to suck dick if there's dick sucking anthems over

00:20:00.140 here so i'm poisoned thinking like hey what's eating spaghetti for oh no wait they can't do

00:20:05.620 anything like that i think it's just a song about eating spaghetti yeah and which is very exotic to

00:20:11.900 them like what the fuck are we doing like i don't i think this this is this is like a dream this is

00:20:17.980 like being in someone else's dream or maybe it's just the just complete extreme of the latino mind

00:20:27.380 and this is what i wanted to get to my favorite meme of i mean this year so far

00:20:33.920 it was probably last year as well but just making fun of south americans for them thinking they

00:20:41.560 have a culture yeah and them thinking that everything they it's like blacks everything

00:20:47.160 they experience is them like in my culture family is very important yeah you own that buddy you own

00:20:54.380 that in my culture dinner is a real event like we when we eat we eat as you know weddings

00:21:03.680 are are everyone loves weddings what kind of what are your weddings like do you like have

00:21:08.820 do you have folding chairs in like a row do you have have you ever had have you ever had an uncle

00:21:14.360 that drinks a bit too much oh yeah do you get like do you get a bride and a groom and you get a bride

00:21:19.220 and a groom do you ever have um like a christian priest who like officiates the wedding have you

00:21:24.460 tried that is there punch no we do this thing where the the father he danced with his daughter

00:21:30.680 because the father-daughter relationship is so important oh so you got dads and daughters there

00:21:38.200 whoa whoa no no there's dads you got you got you got fresh dads you're cooking up fresh dads in

00:21:49.480 these people are so stupid like every single one of them i saw a video i want to try and find it

00:21:56.040 um but i couldn't tell if it was a parody it seemed like the guy was joking but he's

00:22:02.940 it's just some again like squadamalan guy he could either be 50 or 23 you don't know

00:22:10.300 he's standing beside a big flat screen tv going through the bad bunny performance and of course

00:22:14.620 there's stands with some fucking fruit with a straw coming out of it it's like that's it

00:22:21.600 we drink that that's our culture that's a bodega like literally just a bodega like a

00:22:30.520 convenience store yeah it's like that's a bodega we shop there i'm like it's just that and i'm like

00:22:39.180 oh like this is a joke and then i think he's actually crying at the end i'm like i'm looking

00:22:43.560 at the comments and they're saying how powerful it is like is this actually real like i i was even

00:22:49.260 thinking about like the bodegas thing and it's like bodegas are american again with a lot of

00:22:53.860 this stuff like when when bodegas became a thing in like the early 20th century in north america

00:23:00.060 you didn't even have fucking electricity in south america i don't know how you feel like oh but

00:23:04.820 that's our it's not your culture it's that's new york culture that's not even his like you know

00:23:09.520 what i mean like they're reverse engineering all this shit like oh but that's like you know it's

00:23:13.620 like blacks thinking that rap is african culture it's not it's american you're not african you're

00:23:20.300 a nigger you're not fucking african there's a part where in africa where he's like there's a

00:23:26.300 bunch of storefronts there with a taco shop and there's a big sign that says we accept ebt

00:23:32.440 and i'm looking i'm like well you were you were just five seconds ago in puerto rico

00:23:36.540 do you have ebt in puerto rico or do you just associate like in cuba in brazil in fucking

00:23:42.360 colombia do they have ebt no i don't think so they're spiritually on ebt down there but if you

00:23:49.500 want to get conspiratorial we get conspiratorial the whole thing opened with him parading with

00:23:57.040 the american flag but flags from all across across south america peru chile brazil

00:24:04.120 and uh i started seeing this after the performance basically he was saying that

00:24:12.540 we're all america because south america of course has america in the name so he was saying and so

00:24:21.020 were the commentators after saying that you know the united states of america is just one part of

00:24:27.020 america those two continents are america and i look at that and i'm thinking zyhan speaks of this

00:24:36.840 holy shit there's geopolitical strategists who have spoken of this even people within our spaces

00:24:44.400 and obviously trump is attempting to project power more into south america i look at that

00:24:51.920 and i got no evidence for this at all but i look at that and say are you

00:24:56.860 sort of priming us all to accept south america as just part of the american identity like they

00:25:04.620 want to be they're saying we're america maybe that's the first time they've ever said that

00:25:09.220 they seem to want to be involved interesting i just think you know they're teeing this up

00:25:15.480 to integrate south america more fully into the american empire obviously the the factual basis

00:25:23.600 of that the point where they're correct is that america is the name of the contiguous land mass

00:25:29.640 right which is why we have north and south like it's a continent so america the continent includes

00:25:34.860 canada united states mexico and all of south america that's that's america right so that

00:25:40.900 Putting that aside, that's the other thing that I found really fascinating is like you can play that both ways.

00:25:49.180 You can say all South Americans are a part of the United States, which stupid fucking burgers often call America.

00:25:58.180 It's the United States of America.

00:26:00.280 All South Americans are part of the United States of America.

00:26:02.900 But then from the MAGA standpoint, it's America or which we should say United States of America is the de facto, you know, hegemon that will very soon directly control all of those South American states and Canada and Mexico.

00:26:19.920 So and if you think of it, if you consider everything that's been going on with the Epstein releases and everything that's being revealed, much of which we already knew, but it's being proven that this really there really isn't the left and right.

00:26:31.940 these people are all in bed together it it is just two sides of the same yeah and also consider

00:26:38.500 everything that i just said everything i was lampooning the whole joke being that they think

00:26:44.880 they're so different they're exactly like us i'm falling for it aren't i yeah look okay they're

00:26:51.780 traditional like we're traditional they love big dinners they love big families i'm going along

00:26:57.160 with it you're doing it you're doing i've just made the case oh yeah you like lawn chairs as

00:27:00.760 if you like i'm the one who likes lawn chairs oh your brothers your buddy exactly like who

00:27:05.940 what have i done whereas i'm saying no actually nigger you don't like lawn chairs you've been

00:27:11.760 brainwashed you like living in a mud hut that's what you do uh we invented the lawn chairs what

00:27:16.780 are they made of plastic have you you can't make plastic in your civilization that's an that's a

00:27:22.420 that's an anglo thing also we reject that now now every i don't know if you got the update guys and

00:27:28.380 You'll get there in seven years from the look of it.

00:27:31.180 Everything is wrought iron over here.

00:27:33.100 In fact, wrought iron is kind of going out.

00:27:35.560 I used to get just like black iron, fucking lawn furniture.

00:27:39.380 Hell yeah.

00:27:39.980 Before we go on, you mentioned Epstein,

00:27:42.520 and I don't think we need to spend too much on Epstein.

00:27:45.540 I mean, we'll probably circle back at some point in the future,

00:27:48.640 but this was coming from a guy I know named Felix.

00:27:53.520 I don't know where he's getting it from,

00:27:55.660 but he's referring to the Epstein network,

00:27:57.180 and he just says it's a load-bearing ethnic pedophile network

00:28:01.700 you can't get rid of this the whole thing comes down yeah that's pretty good i'm like but that is

00:28:11.080 a good way of describing what it is like what are you gonna do like that's a support beam for this

00:28:15.360 entire civilization you can't uh you need a you need a structural engineer if you're gonna take

00:28:20.220 that out uh i don't know anyway let's move on from that um because we have something very important

00:28:26.280 to talk about yeah and this occurred i think just as of this recording have you heard about that

00:28:33.880 school shooter in canada yep we got our own this time we got our own of course a tranny

00:28:40.920 our very own tranny school shooter the shooter has since been reportedly identified as a jesse

00:28:47.360 string he identified as a trans woman and reportedly after targeting some of his own

00:28:53.520 family members went to the Tumblr Ridge secondary to target students. At least nine victims have

00:29:00.660 already died. 25 are injured. He himself is dead. It began Tuesday. It started in the residence

00:29:07.720 because I believe he shot his mother and murdered his mother and stepbrother. Authorities later

00:29:14.060 discovered their bodies in a home connected to the incident. Then goes on, initial emergency

00:29:20.720 alerts described a suspect as a female

00:29:22.640 in a dress.

00:29:24.860 The way they said in a dress

00:29:26.540 sounded like a wink.

00:29:30.540 Because he wouldn't describe a woman in a dress.

00:29:33.020 He would describe it more. It's like, oh, that's a woman

00:29:34.680 wearing something a real

00:29:36.880 woman would wear.

00:29:38.660 A woman wearing real woman clothes.

00:29:41.480 Can you imagine that?

00:29:43.480 I like to report

00:29:44.580 a true and honest woman wearing

00:29:46.940 hyper-regular clothing

00:29:48.800 that definitely passes

00:29:50.900 oh my god police

00:29:54.860 oh no

00:29:56.540 I'm reading this on disclose.tv

00:29:59.600 and I don't often do that

00:30:01.140 but if this is wrong

00:30:03.780 rake me over the coals later

00:30:05.260 police briefings refer to the perpetrator

00:30:08.000 as a gun person

00:30:09.260 no

00:30:12.200 no

00:30:13.640 no no

00:30:15.420 oh that's too perfect

00:30:17.280 the gun person a gun person uh that's so perfectly distills and i don't know if it's an anglo thing

00:30:25.700 but like the leaving somebody somebody had linked the or reposted the norma donald thing like you

00:30:31.600 know if muslims had dropped a nuclear bomb on new york and killed 50 million americans the real shame

00:30:37.320 would be the backlash against the peaceful muslim community like the the respect that we pay yeah

00:30:43.120 you're the perp and like for what reason man fuck i i saw a video of a press conference with the

00:30:51.560 police where a reporter had identified him as a man and then the police representative obviously

00:30:58.380 corrected them and said look this person just shot 12 of your children but uh let you want to

00:31:06.240 upset we don't insult insult the transgender community which i've been paying attention

00:31:14.480 to them whenever something like this happens i don't think i've ever and i mean ever seen a tranny

00:31:21.600 come out on the side of the victims like like never never never you want to see a video that's

00:31:28.320 going to enrage you yes why not why not we got something on here uh this is a twitter video of

00:31:39.420 course um a canadian lesbian that's all you know this is pulled from oh i saw this one yeah let's

00:31:47.620 just play this for a minute as a person who went to school just a funny way to start that of course

00:31:57.800 as a person went as a dude yeah had hateful comments directed my way

00:32:05.520 the first victim of this tragedy

00:32:10.220 was the shooter

00:32:13.840 and you can disagree all you want

00:32:17.080 but that person did not just decide one day that it was the day

00:32:21.680 it was the day that they could not take it any longer

00:32:26.120 remember shot children by the way like went to a school and shot infants and children

00:32:33.580 so this was the day they couldn't take it anymore that as if to say that these were

00:32:39.960 the perpetrators of their this individual's persecution yeah which which i think they do

00:32:46.780 like this i think this is a lesbian i actually do this is how lesbians look when they hit 30

00:32:52.380 uh the person on the right the images is is the fucking tranny but they really do believe it's

00:32:59.380 like well walk a mile in their shoes have you ever been misgendered because because remember

00:33:06.000 in all these instances they go after children and someone made a point in one of the communities i

00:33:12.160 was in saying why don't they ever attack politicians i'm like well because that would

00:33:15.240 be too popular yeah that would make too many of us happy what these attacks are supposed to do is

00:33:21.160 to hurt us to hurt you listener to hurt patriarchy to hurt cis white heteronormativity whatever it

00:33:31.300 might be it's like that's why you attack the children because you know it's just it's to

00:33:35.540 cause the most pain as possible not to like really strike back at the system they don't want to attack

00:33:42.860 the system they want to attack you it's highly highly personal to the point where oftentimes it

00:33:48.740 seems like random like why would they attack that school at all that's why and that's why it always

00:33:54.180 seems to happen it's because they they fucking hate you because they're demonic and anyone that

00:34:00.180 comes out on the side of them is similarly demonic and that's why i include all trannies in that

00:34:06.040 because find me one of them that doesn't make excuses like this we're saying like yeah it's a

00:34:15.220 tragedy but no absolutely and like look i've been people have been tossing around like you know

00:34:21.820 don't ban guns ban trannies and i mean i'm to the point i'm i'm a you know i'm a i'm a libertarian

00:34:29.640 not really but i'm i'm sensitive to the over authoritarian overreach that's possible when

00:34:36.900 we finally win but i'm at the point right now i i do think we should just round them up you know

00:34:43.800 and by that i mean i don't mean fucking death camps i mean these people are sick and they're

00:34:49.620 a danger to society they're like wild animals they should be rounded up and they should be

00:34:53.360 taken to an asylum or somewhere where they're not a danger to themselves and to others because this

00:34:57.820 is this is completely out of hand and we're just talking about the the murders man we're talking

00:35:02.480 about the murders what about all the fucking child rape what about the harm that they cause

00:35:06.200 to each other and the fact that they're grooming other kids half of the kids now that are trans

00:35:09.700 Or because they've been sexually groomed by other trans people

00:35:11.840 So this is an epidemic

00:35:13.920 Yeah man

00:35:15.880 It's too much

00:35:16.500 I'm surprised we are all still tolerating this

00:35:20.580 And by we I just mean

00:35:21.760 Even regular people in society

00:35:23.520 I would have thought by now

00:35:25.600 We would have done something

00:35:27.260 Because this is I think the fifth

00:35:30.020 One of these types of shootings

00:35:31.720 I've heard of

00:35:33.340 And there might have been more

00:35:35.240 But just the one that I can recall

00:35:37.420 and that's on top of all the like yeah is there any positive there used to be more trans shows

00:35:44.700 there used to be more trans videos we don't see that shit anymore no no they've backed off they've

00:35:48.900 backed off but it doesn't change the fact that you've created this trans population and they

00:35:54.020 are to a man psychotic killers and child rapists every every fucking one of them yeah i i saw

00:36:00.800 a fucking video

00:36:03.040 because this would have been from like

00:36:04.720 2016 maybe earlier

00:36:06.400 back when the CBC our state broadcaster

00:36:09.060 was showing

00:36:10.760 more about child

00:36:12.580 drag shows

00:36:13.860 you used to hear about that too you kind of don't hear about it

00:36:16.980 anymore but it still happens

00:36:19.100 but that's so offensive

00:36:20.640 and it's supposed to be offensive

00:36:23.160 to you

00:36:24.540 just like when you see like a fat man

00:36:27.020 in a dress it's not even really

00:36:28.980 about passing he knows he doesn't pass he's trying to piss you off and subject you to his fetish

00:36:35.400 so i'm like their entire existence is you know designed to be offensive to you and that's why

00:36:42.120 attacking your children is just a bit further along that spectrum but i i'm just shocked that

00:36:49.140 i think a lot of people intuit that they're bothered by it and they no one likes it but

00:36:55.620 no one's doing anything and uh you know i made this point before not to black pill everyone

00:37:02.660 and i hate dealing in these terms because it's talking about us as if i am not part of us so we

00:37:09.640 must group ourselves in this as well but you know we've never been friendly to muslims on this show

00:37:17.520 or jews or lots of different groups obviously so it's israel's fault you said it you said it

00:37:23.680 but i a lot of people believe that if you take care of the jewish question then you know we can

00:37:34.080 take care of the muslims afterwards like start with one then you go after the other because one

00:37:38.880 is more important one has more power strip them of their power and exile them or whatever might be

00:37:45.280 everything else will fall into place and i said look if we can't get rid of jewish power then

00:37:52.800 you have no hope against the muslims because i had said you know what the muslims represent

00:37:58.800 is is something much more severe than jews they have a similar ethno religion you know it's arab

00:38:08.640 supremacist it is racial in that sense but also they are more coordinated they are more violent

00:38:16.240 there's more of them and jews are pretty weak they're not a warrior people they're not even

00:38:24.160 terribly good at propaganda and there's way less of them so i mean if you can't take care of the

00:38:31.920 jews right now then like you have no hope against muslims like if we can't do something about the

00:38:39.440 trannies but nothing's ever going to happen about anything yeah you know i mean like that that's

00:38:46.520 they'll say that's low-hanging fruit look yeah you start with low-hanging fruit just try it out

00:38:51.620 yeah you've picked no fruit here's a tree try picking the low-hanging fruit get a feel for it

00:38:59.200 yeah take a bite and then you can try the higher hanging fruit you're just saying because we don't

00:39:05.320 we're not picking the tip toppest branch then we shouldn't bother then and just prove to me that

00:39:11.280 you know how to pick fruit the two for us as canadians the trans thing and the indians are

00:39:17.220 the two lowest hanging fruit like you have everybody even normie liberals are i think

00:39:23.300 largely you know what it is is it's not so much that they're against it it's that you can have

00:39:28.720 a conversation with them at the very least they're like they're not going to immediately call you

00:39:32.240 for being a bigot they're like you know what i get it i get it it's clearly there's clearly an

00:39:36.540 element of child abuse there's clearly an element of reinforcing someone's delusions you know like

00:39:42.960 and normal people are are becoming aware of this but like look i'm i'm almost 40 but i don't i have

00:39:49.600 never seen an example of anything like this turning around before i don't even know what it looks like

00:39:53.420 dude i don't even know what it looks like when we when we go the other direction and we say we're

00:39:58.920 gonna get these people some actual medical help and take them out of society so because we've

00:40:06.900 never have we did we do that with blacks did we do that with fucking you know any of them

00:40:12.680 and with the homeless did we do that with any of the drug epidemics we've dealt with we're still

00:40:16.740 dealing with it look at vancouver have you take how many kids have died from that shit but i mean

00:40:21.520 they haven't solved that so i mean i don't even know what this looks like okay i'm going to show

00:40:25.400 you a video right now and this is what I was talking about before. CBC aired this

00:40:29.540 about drag kids. You're listening to the audio version so I'm just gonna describe

00:40:33.440 to you the visuals at the start here. I'm gonna speed it up just a

00:40:37.880 little bit to 1.25 speed. You're watching children dance around like

00:40:43.460 strippers. This was broadcast via state-funded media, so taxpayer media.

00:40:48.800 I'm Bracken. I'm a 12-year-old hyper queen, meaning a 12-year-old female drag queen. My

00:40:52.620 My drag name is also my real name. Simple.

00:40:55.120 I'm Jason Kerr, and my drag name is Susan B. Anthony.

00:40:59.420 My name is Nemes, my drag name is Lactatia.

00:41:01.620 So that's Nemes, his drag name is Lactatia, he is 10 years old.

00:41:07.620 This is disturbing, man.

00:41:09.620 My drag name is Stephen Hurst, this is a young boy, age 9, wearing lipstick.

00:41:16.620 Is Vladdygaga.

00:41:17.620 what is drag drag is a lot of things drag is a performing art because you are the canvas

00:41:27.560 showing who you are but like with singing and dancing drag is just the fact that they're all

00:41:32.420 bonding in these non-sexual like they've been coached on this when drag is obviously

00:41:37.980 sexual and degenerate in and there is no context in which it's not sexual and even their dances

00:41:45.560 like they're they are wearing like sexual i'm look in any other context the video you just showed

00:41:51.780 would be borderline child pornography but it was it's fucking cbc i know and that's that's

00:41:58.420 being broadcast to your children on cbc kids trying to court them into this lifestyle and

00:42:05.360 again they'll probably deny that they did this ever but if you cannot push back against that

00:42:12.860 then I don't know what hope there is for anything.

00:42:15.920 Like, it should be the easiest thing.

00:42:17.800 I want to screen cap the credits on this program

00:42:19.880 because I want to know the name of every person

00:42:22.020 who was involved in the production of this program.

00:42:24.760 Yeah, let me just go back to the shooter for a second.

00:42:27.520 We're looking on X here.

00:42:29.460 Ruben Sim, apparently they're discovering

00:42:32.320 all sorts of things about this tranny.

00:42:35.040 Kiwi Farms is doing deep dive

00:42:36.960 and everything they know about him.

00:42:38.700 They just found his Roblox account.

00:42:41.680 of course

00:42:43.500 if there's one thing to keep your son away from

00:42:47.220 we would joke that would be Sonic the Hedgehog

00:42:49.000 definitely make it Roblox

00:42:51.480 says Roblox just deleted

00:42:53.400 the account of recent

00:42:55.100 Canadian school shooter

00:42:56.160 he created a game that was visible

00:42:58.880 on his profile that says

00:43:00.400 remember no Roblox

00:43:02.000 a reference to the Call of Duty level

00:43:04.140 no Russian

00:43:04.900 where the player is forced to gun down

00:43:07.100 a crowd of civilians in an airport

00:43:08.840 and this game that he made

00:43:11.200 is you just shoot people at a mall which is a mall designed to be a mall near where he lives

00:43:16.560 so tranny making school shooter roblox games then you hear you hear from the police them saying

00:43:24.380 you know we had many mental health disturbance calls to that house if you can't do anything

00:43:30.500 based on the available knowledge we can't do the only thing they're going to attempt to do is come

00:43:37.220 after people like us for saying and if and if you're not going to resolve this like if the rcmp

00:43:42.660 and the police aren't going to resolve this then we need another solution yeah because if not this

00:43:47.740 then nothing because everyone's got their number one thing that they're going after i was i even

00:43:53.620 have my buddy on x he was going after patriot front of all groups because they're in minnesota

00:44:02.240 going after the migrants

00:44:05.540 and whatnot and I even saw

00:44:07.320 Eric Stryker commenting on this

00:44:08.980 and Astral was like

00:44:10.680 they're an op, they're a fed op

00:44:12.960 why are they a fed op?

00:44:14.620 because no real right winger ever goes after

00:44:17.440 Muslims, it's always an op

00:44:19.060 I'm like, what the fuck are you talking

00:44:21.620 about? and I asked him

00:44:23.160 I said, so

00:44:24.640 no quote unquote right

00:44:27.320 winger, whatever that is

00:44:28.880 but I think we kind of know generally what that means

00:44:31.160 he's saying i'm like they're not allowed to go after muslims like no you're allowed to but real

00:44:35.240 right-wingers never do i'm like like i'm not allowed to dislike more than one group like

00:44:39.500 that fries people's brains there's a lot of people that can't understand how you can be

00:44:44.580 against both islam and israel that's really retarded like that's that's that is a

00:44:49.900 disqualifying statement you know like i'll never listen to you again pal sorry

00:44:54.400 because when i say not allowed that's kind of what i mean like you you disqualify what we would say

00:45:00.280 by saying islam is it's still a problem and it's just well you know jews have control over you is

00:45:07.220 what they say i'm like yes absolutely sure but that's just a question of that's a force amplifier

00:45:15.720 like we have power but but the muslims in our community who are robbing us to the tune of

00:45:20.520 billions and raping our children and selling them into sexual slavery we should actually ignore that

00:45:26.240 until we deal with the the highest fruit on the tree as you said which is the jews like what what

00:45:32.720 planet do you live on and again exactly what are you doing you person what oh oh nothing okay

00:45:39.160 shut the fuck up i'm seeing this more and more and i i just i don't get involved anymore but

00:45:44.560 it is very disheartening that like i'm engaging with anarchists on x because

00:45:52.260 anti-semitism has just washed over the culture so you've got progressives democratic socialists

00:46:01.240 anarchists and leftists of all stripes uh even the likes of asan piker they've they'll take

00:46:07.760 anything they don't like and call it israeli and they're using israeli as a synonym for fascist

00:46:13.760 as a dog whistle yeah it just means something they're like oh that's the most israeli thing

00:46:19.480 you could do like they were saying that going after the somali scammers in minnesota was the

00:46:24.900 most israeli thing you could do so i'm like okay i get that you're making fun of jews but people

00:46:30.360 see that they think yeah it's anti-semitic like not really would you i know you'll get mad at me

00:46:35.860 when i say this but you must believe it is anti-white it is anti-white because they think

00:46:41.720 zionism is a white creation but like i i was accused by these very same people by anarchists

00:46:50.660 of being jewish i was called a jewish pedophile the other day just for like something almost

00:46:58.240 completely unrelated but they've just appropriated that like the left and left wing yeah they're

00:47:05.100 pretending that they've ever given a shit about pedophilia but i've seen that a lot like in the

00:47:09.940 last i mean i saw one somebody posted one in fort's chat a few days ago where it's somebody

00:47:14.920 that actually has a trans flag in their bio and they're calling us out for being like supporters

00:47:22.980 of child rapists or something because we're insufficiently anti-semitic it's like first of all

00:47:26.820 we invented lynching pedophiles and we invented anti-semitism so you're in the court of the king

00:47:34.020 here you need to keep your fucking mouth shut where do you people come from it's the same thing

00:47:38.420 like you know i would say this i probably will i'm like you know you're probably called fake

00:47:43.420 right wing because you care about epstein half the guys over here right anyone that cares about

00:47:48.900 jeffrey epstein is an op as well they're distracting from the jews or whatever the

00:47:54.920 even though epstein's jewish but they'll pretend you know what i mean like they'll say that that's

00:47:58.300 distracting from the palestinian cause so i'm like everyone's got an excuse why everyone else is an

00:48:04.920 I haven't seen a circular firing squad inward, but also pointing a gun outward as well.

00:48:14.320 Anyone that's behind you.

00:48:15.720 It's something to behold, yeah.

00:48:17.360 This is bad.

00:48:18.960 But I don't know.

00:48:20.280 I've never been more pilled up.

00:48:25.480 Pilled.

00:48:26.040 In Canada, finally.

00:48:28.280 I'm like, yeah, I guess.

00:48:29.700 People are surprised.

00:48:30.600 How do they do?

00:48:31.520 Here's what I saw.

00:48:32.460 I've seen discussions from Americans and I'm not trying to say that this is

00:48:36.680 just an American thing, but like outside of Canada saying,

00:48:39.780 though, how did they do that?

00:48:41.560 They don't have guns in Canada.

00:48:43.860 And before I said anything, I was looking at the responses and someone was

00:48:48.160 like, no, they smuggled them up from Mexico.

00:48:51.320 You know, like they're trying to figure out how guns get into Canada.

00:48:54.940 It is.

00:48:55.440 It is.

00:48:55.840 Look, okay.

00:48:56.940 I'm not going to, I've already been mean enough to Americans.

00:48:59.460 I actually love Americans.

00:49:00.520 Like, you know, I actually do.

00:49:01.880 a lot of my friends are american but it is funny to me very often and it's kind of sad on our side

00:49:08.100 how much we know about the u.s like the average canadian knows about as much as the as about

00:49:14.520 america as probably the average american of the same iq just because we're inundated with american

00:49:19.480 media but they know like it's bizarre the number of americans i've met that have no clue they're

00:49:25.740 Like, yes, America is the most armed country on Earth.

00:49:28.940 But by a huge margin, Canada is the second most armed country on Earth.

00:49:33.600 And we're your brothers.

00:49:34.720 We're right here.

00:49:35.420 We also have a shit ton of guns, man.

00:49:37.220 You have to realize that in America, they're so armed because it's enshrined in the Constitution.

00:49:44.260 And it's such a pillar of their identity.

00:49:48.560 In Canada, we have so many guns because we're just crazy and like guns.

00:49:52.800 it's not even it's not written anywhere that we need to it's not anywhere that we should more

00:49:57.620 seriously like our our whole thing about like okay canadians don't have guns yeah we have a

00:50:00.820 firearm act firearm act that changed everything that was only like the early 90s i think prior

00:50:05.220 to that everybody had a fucking revolver in the nightstand like americans did and that was like

00:50:09.900 that was when we you and i were kids so like it hasn't even been that long that we'd have really

00:50:15.440 strict uh gun laws here so yeah this this nation is full of guns they keep trying to do gun buy

00:50:22.500 backs though yeah can you wrap your head around the type of person who would take advantage of a

00:50:28.060 gun buyback yeah this sort of guy the sort of guy with a 3d printer that's him oh what's that

00:50:35.780 four dollars a filament you're gonna be 800 bucks fuck yeah dude

00:50:38.700 oh so you think they're turning in 3d printed guns well they i mean look okay that's not actually

00:50:46.920 how this particular buyback works but i've heard in the states some guys did that it was hilarious

00:50:50.700 that would be so funny yeah and they're just holding them to a rule that they don't even

00:50:56.540 understand like no you have to do it it's like i think we do but but they did force an uh foia

00:51:02.220 on uh fucking gary and it turned out that in cape breton they only got 25 guns and the program

00:51:09.100 costs like over a hundred thousand dollars just to get those 25 guns and that's not including

00:51:13.280 the back end like admin costs at the federal level that's just at the local level it cost

00:51:17.860 100 grand the only thing is 100 grand like what is the gun by that program it's a cop standing at

00:51:23.940 a desk in a community center waiting for people to come waiting for them so it's just oh you're

00:51:29.220 paying that cop a hundred thousand dollars just yeah that's what this is in overtime because and

00:51:35.060 this is look for americans listening maybe you don't understand how our gun system works

00:51:38.900 i don't understand exactly how your system works but i do know that when you purchase a gun correct

00:51:43.300 me if i'm wrong you purchase a gun in the states you got to go to an ffl and they got to check your

00:51:47.780 name and you probably got to wait a day or two and then i don't know how your registry works but

00:51:52.800 i remember from watching a few of these about them them tracking crime guns that there are

00:51:57.300 registries of who bought which gun at which serial number that actually isn't true in canada

00:52:02.320 every gun that i own the only person who knows that i have that gun is some old fat guy at an

00:52:10.200 auction house and i don't think he has unless he wanted a record of it he might have a credit card

00:52:14.940 record with an internal skew and my credit card number but there is no serial number tracking

00:52:20.460 federally there is no federal gun registry in canada so most of the guns that i own which are

00:52:26.260 antiques are not tracked to me they have absolutely no way of knowing what i own and they've been

00:52:31.920 going through this with the gun buyback where it's like yeah some of these newer ones like the

00:52:35.980 assault rifles and shit that they've been i mean in fairness none of the stuff that i own is even

00:52:39.440 on that list but the the newer stuff like the scary assault style weapons um the only way that

00:52:46.020 they're able to track them is by digging through with a computer algorithm to try and match

00:52:52.220 probabilistically names and credit card numbers to prices based on the sale price of certain guns

00:52:59.840 at certain times because and they but they don't have serial okay yeah so it's just here's what an

00:53:05.460 ar-15 would generally cost right right like we're pretty sure so and so may have bought this gun

00:53:11.820 because they made a purchase here for twenty three hundred dollars and it would and they're

00:53:16.520 the sort of person who would have bought it so we should go check up and see if they have one

00:53:20.300 you know what i mean but there's no documentation that says that they have it so it's such a

00:53:25.240 convoluted way of doing it you know no one's gonna do that no exactly it's never gonna happen

00:53:30.020 i wanted to show you this before uh we didn't get to this last time and i wanted to what we're

00:53:38.520 looking at we are talking about the alberta separation movement and i don't think we

00:53:43.260 put a lot of time into the bc prosperity project which is the british columbia separation movement

00:53:50.820 have you heard about this no i haven't actually this is the first time uh it's new not terribly

00:53:57.100 popular you know it's got around 4 000 followers grassroots voices accountability future of bc

00:54:03.680 same sort of thing manitoba was talking about it alberta i think sparked it what really sparked

00:54:09.380 it was quebec i think everyone is falling in line behind quebec or the model that they've given even

00:54:15.980 though quebec obviously never separated but i think they're trying to harness that sort of energy

00:54:22.120 and we talked about this last time when we were trying to figure out if they're really serious

00:54:28.640 to me this all seems like a negotiation i agree and i look to the bc prosperity project as the

00:54:36.300 example i'm talking about because i read their manifesto and it was sent to me by the laughing

00:54:42.380 man who is in that neck of the woods and uh he's like oh you know they got something they got a

00:54:49.700 manifesto and i was stricken by as i was reading it nothing they wanted to do or be was any

00:55:00.400 different than what ottawa wants them to be in what the laurentian elite has been trying to get

00:55:06.020 them to be for one example there's a part in there about migration mass migration because so many

00:55:14.140 provinces might not want to be subject to that but they said well of course an independent bc

00:55:19.880 would need a lot of high skilled immigrants to for the purposes of growth

00:55:25.080 like literally every single thing how do they define themselves well through

00:55:30.400 tolerance equity you know canadian i didn't mean can i mean british colombian values you know i

00:55:37.560 but it's like nothing you want to do is at odds with what ottawa wants you to do right and that's

00:55:46.140 why i don't think these separation movements have any legs because you need to have a set of very

00:55:51.960 serious grievances to see this through to the end even quebec i don't think had it as much as they

00:55:58.520 thought they did but you need to really want independence and um i read this book called

00:56:04.540 transformation of the world by osterhamo and it's a global history of the 19th century

00:56:10.700 it's like a thousand pages long and it's just here's a book about everything that was going on

00:56:15.260 in the 19th century which is a very important century and one thing he talks about is it was

00:56:20.900 the shift away from empires into nationalism that was really the century of nationalism and

00:56:27.180 nationalist movements whereas before everything was empires and the nation doesn't really work

00:56:34.480 unless it's in opposition to an empire almost every nation that had emerged or even unified it

00:56:41.120 was in opposition to some kind of power or to forge its own path in the shadow of something

00:56:47.060 else and one thing it points to and it makes sense of course once you hear it but i never

00:56:53.500 heard it described like this really where it says you know the only thing that separates a nation

00:56:57.860 from you know just a very large state or empire or imperium is that there is ethnic homogeneity

00:57:04.460 it doesn't make sense unless there's not like what what is the nation then you see what i'm

00:57:10.400 saying like canada canada doesn't make canada's not a nation you need i think we need to come to

00:57:15.980 terms with that it's a country yes but it's it's several nations bound together already yeah at

00:57:23.940 least two the angles and the french that i mean look that that's a controversial statement i happen

00:57:29.700 to agree with you but yes i think there's i think there's utility in saying there's such a thing as

00:57:35.140 a canadian nation but yeah i i think i've already said on the show before not only do i think canada

00:57:39.840 is a is a handful of actual distinct nations under one flag but americans are as well they just don't

00:57:45.200 want to admit it so yeah it's like we're mini empires we're each we're mini carbon copies of

00:57:51.640 a globalist empire with nations contained within them like america does see what's it's several

00:57:58.100 nations contained obviously um not even including the fucking demarcated demilitarized border zones

00:58:06.060 in the south where it's it's kind of a blurred zone between mexico but like when you approach

00:58:12.200 this it's like are we even like what is a nation like it really does start with the people and

00:58:17.320 really the birth of the nation was that very conceptualization of people first people as the

00:58:24.680 the operative element of what a nation is that's how you can get first nations here in canada it's

00:58:29.760 just a collection of people with enough self-awareness and strength of will to assert

00:58:35.240 themselves that's all it fucking is then from that you can have a state apparatus and an army

00:58:40.580 and what have you but if you lack that then you're not a nation you're getting to something like

00:58:45.380 the empires in a pre-national world that's why even calling ourselves canadian nationalists

00:58:52.440 just doesn't ring true

00:58:55.400 to me. You can say it's

00:58:57.160 semantics. Who gives a shit? We're just

00:58:59.220 saying it because it works

00:59:01.260 and people understand what it

00:59:03.220 means, but I think

00:59:05.020 technically that's wrong.

00:59:06.780 I don't really know what to do about that. I'll probably have to write

00:59:09.080 a long, meandering article

00:59:11.140 about it at some point in the future.

00:59:13.040 But BC Prosperity Project,

00:59:15.200 just to circle back to this,

00:59:16.860 you want to break away and become your own

00:59:19.100 nation. Well, do you have

00:59:20.960 the unity of the people do you have the coherency of the people are you any different than like

00:59:27.620 like are you just like a mini canada and this is all an economic grievance like freedom and

00:59:34.100 prosperity what we got to remember is freedom doesn't mean anything to canadians and i mean

00:59:40.160 that really i mean that like i know what you're saying i know what you're saying yeah like freedom

00:59:46.180 and liberty is an american thing and yes we've been inundated with american media for so long

00:59:51.460 but there's something to be said about how the character of the canadian even though we both

00:59:58.620 have arrived from anglo roots i get that but this is the case made by john farthing in freedom

01:00:06.220 wears a crown it's like we're more about you know order and that liberty is kind of in the

01:00:13.100 order and good government was our was our motto yeah yes and i think that's also true i don't

01:00:18.460 think we've been so subsumed by americanism that we've changed that even the thing about being

01:00:23.540 anglos that was the history of anglos as well it wasn't freedom it was peace order and good

01:00:27.040 government it the freedom thing is purely american and it's rebellious it was a rebellion against

01:00:31.740 empire so do with that what you will but we're not yeah we're not like them obviously none of

01:00:37.180 us want to be enslaved but freedom isn't our guiding principle the way that it is for the

01:00:41.940 american usually in the past when you would hear freedom it was freedom from direct persecution

01:00:48.520 exactly from some aggressor but for americans it's almost libertarian it's like free you know

01:00:54.280 do do what's thou wilt stir it's whatever freedom as such it's freedom for the sake of freedom and

01:01:01.460 i still think there's many americans who believe that and that's not a point of criticism but it's

01:01:04.660 just a point of differentiation um and so when i see this i'm not trying to drag them too much

01:01:12.440 but freedom and prosperity i think it's just the prosperity honestly like it sounds like a

01:01:17.920 negotiation tactic with the center of power in the country same thing with alberga like you're

01:01:23.280 just saber rattling which you should do that's what you're supposed to do you threaten to leave

01:01:27.840 and i was talking to ferryman's toll about this i think it was in fortisax's chat and uh

01:01:34.040 we were talking about how it's like a marriage that you got two people with within the marriage

01:01:40.920 who are having a lot of conversations about divorce and that's a bad situation to be in

01:01:46.480 where you can remain in that model you can remain married technically married you're not divorced

01:01:54.120 but it gets to a certain point where that would be better than what you have but and you're

01:02:00.700 remaining in the same house in the same space with this person but you're resenting them and

01:02:05.480 you want out and you're talking about getting out and then what you start to do is you start

01:02:09.840 sabotaging each other this is what happens in a really bad marriage you do these subtle things

01:02:15.040 to sabotage the other person's success and happiness because you're no longer invested

01:02:20.620 in their happiness anymore and so like even though it's highly unlikely that any of these

01:02:28.200 provinces will separate we're all going to be dealing with the fact that no one wants to be

01:02:32.840 here no one wants to be doing this anymore the promise of confederation has not been upkept we

01:02:37.900 don't have any east to west economic unity or trade unity it's all directed south everyone's

01:02:44.200 just miserable and eventually it just blows up eventually or the worst case scenario is we start

01:02:50.160 sabotaging each other we start hurting our own internal projects to fuck with each other

01:02:54.420 like a miserable toxic marriage in fairness that's already been happening for years and that is that

01:03:01.840 that to albert's point i think it's important to say bc has a point alberta has a point right we

01:03:10.020 shouldn't just i don't see them as traitors i've been seeing some people say oh these separatists

01:03:14.220 they're traitors to what their ancestors fought for you know my you know you are your ancestors

01:03:21.980 you you are them that's kind of the point of it so if maybe they would approve of what you're

01:03:29.780 doing like you're not in opposition to them just because you're not doing exactly what they would

01:03:33.620 do circumstances change so let's put that to the side but i don't see any benefit of saying that

01:03:40.240 they should be fucking publicly hanged for entertaining the idea of well it's also a

01:03:46.220 little bit rich to say that if if our ancestors in every province could see what has become of

01:03:52.900 our federal government that they would all agree to confederation they would probably start a

01:03:57.360 fucking internal war against each other in all likelihood like this is not a time when we all

01:04:03.700 have more to gain by staying together than by breaking apart and i'm not saying we should break

01:04:08.080 apart what i'm saying is as you've said we have been at each other's throats as provinces for

01:04:12.920 decades and we have a federal government that's pitting us against each other and so i i do think

01:04:18.380 that we need unity and i do think that the real enemy is the federal government but um we like

01:04:24.500 it's not like the grievances the provinces have against each other are wrong they're they're

01:04:28.760 they're all they're all real and they need to actually be resolved you can't just whitewashed

01:04:33.800 over and be like you're such a traitor no stop and like no like i i totally understand where

01:04:39.840 secessionists are coming from so you want my answers ancestors would think of me and remember

01:04:45.240 most of our ancestors were shit libs honestly most of our ancestors are going back several

01:04:51.860 generations odds are they were you could say back in the day people were more conservative

01:04:57.580 yeah but they're still probably pretty liberal honestly like from their principles they were

01:05:03.700 what would they think about

01:05:06.320 seeing the

01:05:08.400 trans shooter in BC what would they think

01:05:10.500 about none of us rising up to

01:05:12.580 burn the parliament down

01:05:14.240 because it's gone to that point

01:05:16.520 so our ancestors already

01:05:18.600 think we're bumbling faggots

01:05:20.280 yeah you know what I'm saying like

01:05:21.780 I don't think they give a shit about

01:05:23.860 liberation they're saying what are you doing

01:05:26.000 about

01:05:27.180 how have you not burned Ottawa yet

01:05:30.280 we used to have ships

01:05:31.760 what happened to our ships yeah we used to have submarines and i think we had three two of them

01:05:37.960 sank oh okay what's what's what did you do what did you do you're still eating poutine

01:05:45.480 you didn't come up with another thing don't tell me you're still eating poutine come on

01:05:52.500 after 150 years you're still eating fucking poutine the gravy and the cheese we're talking

01:05:57.700 the gravy and the cheese? You didn't invent

01:05:59.760 another thing?

01:06:02.780 Do we have

01:06:03.760 a national sausage? No? Okay.

01:06:06.200 The one thing they're

01:06:07.780 concerned about is whether or not we have a national

01:06:09.720 sausage. I'll see another funny thing.

01:06:12.080 We're looking at CP24 here.

01:06:13.880 British Columbia to end drug

01:06:15.580 decriminalization project after challenging

01:06:17.940 three-year experiment.

01:06:19.940 Nice. What would our ancestors think

01:06:21.720 of this? What would our ancestors think that

01:06:23.160 we let everyone have crack?

01:06:25.780 First of all, you have to explain to them what crack cocaine

01:06:27.620 is yeah and say we just let you could have tweens they can get it yeah super opium but we decided

01:06:34.080 it might be cool to just see whether we could give it for free to a bunch of teenagers and see

01:06:38.540 whether that like improved their lives or not and they're like opium the chinaman's drug yeah yeah

01:06:46.280 we gave it to our own children because we thought they'd open the the bane of the chinaman yeah

01:06:52.040 whatever happened there

01:06:54.340 you mean the bio weapon that we used to destroy

01:06:57.580 our existential enemies

01:06:59.240 you gave that to kids

01:07:00.720 your ancestor comes up

01:07:01.940 so China whatever happened there

01:07:03.800 believe it or not

01:07:07.540 it's pretty much the same

01:07:09.000 British Columbia won't be renewing

01:07:11.380 its agreement with Health Canada

01:07:12.760 that allowing for the decriminalization

01:07:15.600 of small amounts of drugs

01:07:17.120 for personal possession

01:07:18.360 officially ending a three year program

01:07:20.180 that was hailed as groundbreaking

01:07:21.760 before critics blamed it for

01:07:24.080 feeling public

01:07:24.940 they blamed it for feeling public disorder and

01:07:27.900 failing to reign in the overdose crisis

01:07:30.200 no really

01:07:31.700 that's not fair

01:07:33.520 who could see this coming

01:07:35.380 who was I talking to there's a

01:07:38.100 guy who was debating

01:07:40.180 Dave the distributist

01:07:42.080 for a while and he was a Canadian guy

01:07:43.900 and he was from

01:07:44.900 I want to say he was from BC but he was a big

01:07:48.060 public advocate of this like he

01:07:49.440 he was the guy who really believed that this was going to save lives uh health minister josey

01:07:56.400 sorry what i just said that's nuts and like you like what anyway yeah

01:08:01.080 uh that pilot hasn't delivered the results the results we hope for the program is ending amid

01:08:08.300 the same sort of division and inspired and since 2023 with critics blaming it for drug deaths and

01:08:13.900 public disorder and supporters saying it helps reduce stigmatization that could deter people

01:08:17.900 seeking life-saving help which they didn't get if it hasn't addressed overdoses you know what i mean

01:08:24.140 it's like it can stop people from seeking help for overdoses as overdoses skyrocket um dj larkin

01:08:32.300 executive director canadian drug policy uh says stigma built up over a hundred years can't be

01:08:38.140 reversed in three but oh yeah that's the reason okay this is such i don't know what to do with

01:08:46.540 these people to like

01:08:48.040 they're keeping it hidden because of stigma

01:08:50.380 well no here's the thing they're not keeping it

01:08:52.580 hidden they're doing it in parks

01:08:54.560 and on sidewalks

01:08:56.440 like this these

01:08:58.560 are the least shameful

01:09:00.300 people you've ever met they're taking

01:09:02.640 a shit in a garbage bag in front of a

01:09:04.560 school

01:09:05.160 Larkin said a

01:09:08.000 decrease in interaction with police was

01:09:10.460 important because involvement with the justice

01:09:12.560 system can drive harm

01:09:13.920 including losing housing and employment

01:09:16.460 so basically just like keep the police away from them because you know for doing drugs that can

01:09:22.520 make them lose their houses i'm like well first of all check the house is there any copper left in

01:09:29.380 it okay you can legalize drugs but are you doing anything with the fentanyl right or the car

01:09:37.260 fentanyl which is like yeah you can no one's smoking crack anymore no one's even doing heroin

01:09:42.080 it's fentanyl and it's like there's no safe way to do that if you're letting more people do fentanyl

01:09:49.120 like in a safe injection site that doesn't help it's oh no we'll be there when they overdose it's

01:09:54.880 like okay but you're still overdosing like all you're trying to do is like create a bigger

01:10:00.160 safety net for people who are killing themselves with drugs and then just shocking them back to

01:10:05.040 life like describe it for what it is right this this isn't a harm reduction this is we are just

01:10:11.620 shoving adrenaline in the chest plate of people who are overdosing that's all this is i'm like

01:10:17.960 well if you describe it like that i don't like that i don't yuck i'd rather they die and you're

01:10:26.000 sticking with needles needles are gross throw them in the trash an overdose death can be very

01:10:33.840 dignified it's just it's it's a it's a more severe and longer death rattle but yeah yeah dying of an

01:10:42.640 overdose is more dignified than continuing to suffer as an addict for 30 years on the street

01:10:47.860 and then dying of an overdose anyways we've already gotten made we've gotten medical assistance

01:10:53.700 in dying that's what blows my mind did you know five percent of all deaths in canada last year

01:10:58.520 were made deaths one in 20 people that died in this country were euthanized by the state it's an

01:11:04.220 insane number so so that's what we're doing but at the same time the absolute i'm sorry the dregs

01:11:10.760 of our society who are laying on the street overdosing day after day as a danger to our

01:11:17.180 children we're paying to revive them we're paying to revive them not only at the cost of the

01:11:24.360 taxpayer but again at the cost of the safety of our cities but children that are born with a with

01:11:30.860 a breathing problem now are euthanized white children while they're shocking them with the

01:11:36.640 fucking defibrillators going i wish i could quit you like you're fighting to keep these alive and

01:11:43.880 then you're trying you're pitching suicide to veterans who just went in by saying i think my

01:11:50.280 kidneys might be shutting down because of

01:11:52.360 all the toxic gases

01:11:54.300 I inhaled fighting for this country.

01:11:56.980 What

01:11:57.300 would your ancestors think? Do you think

01:12:00.380 they'd care about Elbergine? Is that

01:12:02.220 something to separate from? Well, in this case,

01:12:04.280 BC was doing that. Let's say

01:12:06.180 BC separates and tries

01:12:08.240 again the drug rehabilitation program.

01:12:10.000 None of these provinces

01:12:12.060 are fundamentally different

01:12:14.260 than what's going on in Ottawa

01:12:16.180 right now. Not really.

01:12:17.920 It's serious in the sense that

01:12:19.680 it could actually happen it's not serious in the sense that it's going to solve anybody's problem

01:12:25.700 right like if you think danielle smith or some new fucking quote-unquote conservative government

01:12:31.460 in alberta is going to treat you any differently than the laurentians you're fucking dreaming

01:12:35.820 like polyev is your guy polyev is your fucking guy dude is he helping you no he's a fucking

01:12:42.040 faggot he married a brown girl i'm one to talk but he married a brown girl and what is he's

01:12:48.700 fucking letting in infinity immigrants he won't even talk about the issue like come on man look

01:12:53.920 alberta is almost as brown as ontario at this point it just and look again i get the whole

01:12:59.500 transfer payments thing alberta has been fucked by the laurentians been fucked by quebec and

01:13:03.440 ontario repeatedly i know dude i know i want to fix it i feel bad i feel guilty i want it i want

01:13:10.180 it to be resolved but you leaving and just being like oh we're gonna start our own state okay

01:13:14.380 okay have fun i guess like i hope you don't because not only do not because i'm mad but

01:13:20.840 because i don't want you to suffer more and me also suffer more for this stupid fucking plan

01:13:25.860 because that's what's going to happen it's going to just increase everyone's suffering

01:13:29.400 by the way i don't know if alberta has considered this but a lot of americans see alberta as can

01:13:35.400 as texas so if you become a 51st state or the 51st state you're going to get immediately flooded

01:13:43.780 of the californians yes and and you you will also be universally hated by the majority of your new

01:13:48.600 countrymen the other thing like this we're getting into the minutiae of it here but like

01:13:51.920 i always say like if alberta joined the united states it'd be puerto rico and by that i mean

01:13:57.240 it's going to be like a like you know puerto rico is essentially like an overseas territory

01:14:00.700 an overseas colony where you're administered at arm's length they don't actually give a fuck

01:14:05.820 about you do you really think they're going to give you as many seats in the house as every

01:14:11.200 other state of equivalent size does come on you're dreaming dude you're gonna have zero political

01:14:15.540 power you think you have no political power now wait until you're you're you know fucking cattle

01:14:20.940 puerto rico yeah as we said in previous episode you know who's going to be negotiating this deal

01:14:27.000 is the very political class that you hate right and what happens once the documents are signed

01:14:32.900 everything is ratified and then trump or whoever just says all that stuff we promised you we're

01:14:38.940 not going to do it which is literally his playbook we've just in the last six months there's 100

01:14:42.740 examples of that he just does whatever the fuck he wants and again why on earth would trump give

01:14:47.520 you anything you want you have zero bargaining power look the they have oil but you don't have

01:14:52.360 a military like what how are you what how are you defending the oil if you think it's bad right now

01:14:57.540 where you're canada as a as a larger country is under the thumb of all of these international

01:15:02.280 powers can you imagine how bad it would be when it's just landlocked alberta on its own with no

01:15:07.960 pipeline yeah i've said things i'm saying things now that we've said before so i don't even spend

01:15:14.580 too long on it yeah but but i agree with that completely um you want to see just before we get

01:15:20.320 to the last thing here i've got great news all right we're kind of talking about uh you know

01:15:26.460 we're talking about puerto rico reminds me of venezuela remember trump was taking out their

01:15:33.400 leader and now america is in control of the venezuelan oil look at this post maduro venezuela

01:15:41.020 ships its first crude oil cargo to israel in years that's all we wanted i mean i just look i could

01:15:50.900 sleep now isn't that great that's wonderful look this is a real a real heart warmer the first thing

01:15:59.260 they did was send oil to israel oh my god just because some people they hear the main story

01:16:07.020 then they move on their thing let's just follow up on that hey whatever happened there oh it's

01:16:11.320 all going to israel cool cool i thought it might be i thought for once as an outsider i thought for

01:16:19.360 once something might benefit americans it's funny though because trump did tell us this right he

01:16:24.640 said we have the oil now it's our oil now we have the oil it's our oil right so if we have it it's

01:16:33.240 ours where does it go israel who's we who's us israel if you're trump so i ask you albertans

01:16:41.160 i understand that the proposal you're hearing is very good and you want more investment in the oil

01:16:46.920 sands that's great do you want to just send it all to israel for free for free yeah free cash money

01:16:53.860 free oil

01:16:55.640 no dollars for you

01:16:57.840 does that sound good?

01:16:59.620 be maple Venezuela

01:17:00.920 alright so I wanted to cover this

01:17:04.120 book that I read recently

01:17:05.780 we're moving on

01:17:08.120 somewhat from

01:17:10.100 our Canadian arc

01:17:12.040 that we were on which concluded last episode

01:17:14.280 with Maximum Canada

01:17:15.480 and I want to spend the next

01:17:17.660 few episodes

01:17:19.100 talking about

01:17:21.140 guerrilla separatist movements

01:17:23.460 to term it one way um so i want to start by discussing the ira the irish republican army

01:17:31.160 which a lot of people know about and we're going to then build into a discussion about the flq

01:17:35.940 which was of course the quebec separatist movement this is very much in line of everything

01:17:41.140 we were talking about and i wanted to look at specifically where the ira succeeded why did

01:17:48.700 flq in my opinion fail so not spectacularly but it did fail but i think they had comparable goals

01:17:56.940 you know how are they different as organizations how are they different as cultures does the

01:18:02.540 territory factor into it what happened there and i didn't know too much about the ira i know there's

01:18:08.140 some people in this space i know keith woods is pretty good on the ira obviously he's irish

01:18:13.660 but i'd always seen it from a distance and i never really knew so i got two books here

01:18:18.780 i want to read this first one i've been referencing it in other appearances and

01:18:22.620 maybe people have heard me bring it up it's called bandit country the ira and south armagh

01:18:29.580 i hope i'm pronouncing that correctly by toby harndan this is a pretty famous book i've had

01:18:37.100 some people in our space describe the ira is the gold standard the gold standard for how a nation

01:18:45.980 as we were just describing can wage a war against an oversized power against an empire

01:18:53.580 and that's what the irish independence movement was so i'll just say at the start i was unaware

01:19:00.780 about first of all just how many attacks were going on i knew there was bombings of course i

01:19:07.800 knew there was was shootings i wasn't aware there was so many and then so many people died i wasn't

01:19:14.280 aware how many ira members there were and more importantly how long it was going on i mean it

01:19:20.660 was going on and we'll get to this in the next book but i mean several centuries if you want to

01:19:26.800 get into it if you want to discuss how you have you know men snipers and fields built upon an

01:19:36.360 intellectual movement that probably stretches back you know hundreds of years many many generations

01:19:42.720 and it has so much to do with the types of people that are in Ireland it's not just all guerrilla

01:19:50.140 movements are created equal obviously they're not but the thirst the yearning for irish independence

01:19:58.300 in my opinion was stronger than that for quebec independence or any other independence movements

01:20:04.700 and we'll get into the the details of that but just before we start do you know anything about

01:20:08.780 the ira have you heard about them yeah yeah i know of course i mean i read war of the flea i've read

01:20:12.540 a number of other books on insurgency that cover them they're kind of i mean it on some level

01:20:17.100 they're almost the gold standard for western insurgency if we can look at it that way yeah

01:20:22.440 but the guerrilla war you imagine vietnam the vietcong you imagine all these other places all

01:20:27.120 over the world but this conflict went right through into the late 20th century and involves

01:20:33.660 a type of people that will seem familiar to us and and the tactics they devised and the

01:20:40.360 terrain they were dealing with and more importantly they're dealing with an empire that was

01:20:45.800 neighboring them this was an empire across the world that presented problems because that means

01:20:51.080 troops could be sent over very easily but it also meant that um you know they were confronted

01:20:58.040 by their aggressor and that had an emotional impact on it now so we're talking about this

01:21:03.500 area called south armagh which is in ireland and it became notorious as a hotbed of revolutionary

01:21:11.040 activity of independence activity and it focuses on an individual by the name of thomas murphy

01:21:17.280 otherwise aka slab murphy nice which is such a cool name yes thomas slab murphy who was a pig

01:21:25.840 smuggler through the 1980s thomas slab murphy's reach allegedly extended far beyond the borderlands

01:21:32.600 of south armar by then he was believed to be the ira's chief of staff the man quietly pulling

01:21:38.600 strings as bombings rocked london belfast and beyond but murphy's real power wasn't in the

01:21:44.760 explosions it was in the supply lines intelligence reports placed him at the center of one of the ira's

01:21:51.560 most audacious feats the libyan arms connection shipments of rifles explosives and even surface

01:21:59.000 to air missiles were ferried across the mediterranean bound for irish shores i'll just

01:22:04.680 mentioned a bit about him at the top and i mentioned this i forget where i think it was

01:22:09.160 even on the myth of the 20th century episode where i was saying that you look at these guerrilla

01:22:16.520 movements and you would expect them to be marxist or leftist and a lot of marxists and leftists

01:22:22.280 would like to claim it and certainly there was as we'll see in the next episode there were some

01:22:27.880 of those types of people in there but uh overall like this was not ideologically driven

01:22:36.240 this wasn't a proletarian revolution against capitalism it isn't this was just men and women

01:22:43.040 but mostly men who just wanted britain the fuck out of ireland and that was it and what they were

01:22:48.880 doing they had one goal we're gonna kill as much of them as we can until they leave that's it that's

01:22:56.280 the victory condition we're not here to be invited to a table to negotiate any anything other than

01:23:03.200 that it's you get the fuck out of ireland and we're not going to stop blowing you up until you

01:23:08.200 leave again we'll get to this actually we'll get to this at the end of this but just to jump ahead

01:23:12.960 and give you a taste of where it's going i think and i'm saying this now in the event that we don't

01:23:18.800 get to it i think what really led to the decline and fall of the ira and it's very interesting

01:23:26.720 about the schisms that occurred within it and they split off in the ira and the real ira and

01:23:32.220 some other groups i think it was when they took the war to england because when they were just

01:23:38.120 in ireland they're fighting a defensive war but they're dealing in a situation that they can

01:23:44.200 control easier if they once they start reaching out into london planting bombs there killing

01:23:52.080 people there uh you're more likely to be killing civilians if you're doing attacks in ireland and

01:23:58.140 you're targeting soldiers there but if you're trying to make a statement and blow up a bank

01:24:03.160 even though that's seen as funding the enemy that's when you start blowing up women and children

01:24:09.240 and i think that's what really ended up sinking them and if they just didn't do that i mean maybe

01:24:16.280 they'd still be fighting to this day maybe they still wouldn't get what they want but

01:24:19.040 i really think they lost the war for their hearts and minds once they started operating in a true

01:24:26.840 warlike manner which was taking it to the enemy but then it were taken to the enemy cities and

01:24:33.020 and just blowing up you know dockyards and shit but anyway some people might disagree with that

01:24:38.720 But I do think that's where they started to lose.

01:24:41.080 So I'll just, I'll read some parts here.

01:24:43.600 And I love this book.

01:24:44.840 It's so fascinating.

01:24:45.620 It's just telling a historical story,

01:24:48.160 many interesting characters.

01:24:49.300 There's a lot of stuff we're not going to get to,

01:24:51.820 but I don't know.

01:24:53.120 It comes alive off the page.

01:24:54.800 Again, when you're talking about like mortar battles

01:24:58.920 and how they're ordering RPGs from Libya

01:25:05.920 to shoot down helicopters.

01:25:07.920 and i know we shouldn't be talking like this but from a technical standpoint it's very cool

01:25:14.400 like they're talking about south armada it's like you know they were notorious because

01:25:18.180 they invented a new type of mortar like really i mean they invented like something you can build

01:25:25.060 yourself that is highly accurate and effective and you know you think of they would call them

01:25:30.880 terrorists i wouldn't use that term exactly but you never consider the mortar the stately mortar

01:25:37.400 you're always thinking of guns snipers bombs but i'm like it's kind of cool just a set set up camp

01:25:43.660 a while away and just start lobbing fucking shit at a target and it kind of it mostly hits

01:25:50.160 and then you just talk you chuck it away because it's disposable i'm like that's pretty cool

01:25:56.280 it says the very mention of south arma can send a shiver down the spine of any one of tens of

01:26:02.740 thousands of soldiers who have served there since the troubles began branded bandit country in 1975

01:26:09.060 the northern ireland secretary by the northern ireland secretary no other part of the world

01:26:14.100 has been as dangerous for someone wearing the uniform of the british army some 123 soldiers

01:26:19.840 have been killed in south armagh since 1971 around a fifth of all military casualties in northern

01:26:25.520 ireland along with 42 consabulatory before going on patrol troops are briefed that every

01:26:32.340 gorse bush stone wall ditch every cow shed milk churn or bale of hay could hide a bomb

01:26:38.320 and then we what he gets into in the book and i found this the most interesting was

01:26:43.680 we're looking at south armagh but really we're looking at northern ireland what is it about this

01:26:49.500 region what is it about this country that made the iris so popular now it lost some popularity

01:26:56.680 in the 70s and 80s but in the next book we're going to go back to michael collins and back in

01:27:01.940 like 1919 1920 it's like they were winning elections with sin fein like there was wide

01:27:08.600 acceptance of the ira message for a long long time it started to decline later but

01:27:13.820 like they were this is a model that i think a lot of people are looking for to now and i should

01:27:21.000 explain this at the top so and i'm saying this wrong i'm sure but sin fein is just their political

01:27:27.880 party it's like kind of like the ira political party and all they do is try and run candidates

01:27:32.620 advocating for this one cause then you have the ira which is the military arm of that and everyone

01:27:39.180 knows the same thing but they are kept separate and so they have it divided into these different

01:27:45.480 organizations for different tasks which i think is interesting and one of the problems with the

01:27:50.820 overall organization is there was a conflict between those two at some point because as you

01:27:57.220 can imagine the political side is a bit more interested in a peace deal whereas guys like

01:28:04.300 tom murphy a guy who dropped out of school at 14 and just owns a farm called the slab murphy farms

01:28:12.120 he's a pig smuggler in march 2006 the criminal assets bureau along with their counterparts in

01:28:18.680 the united kingdom swooped on thomas slab murphy the godfather of bandit country during a series

01:28:25.540 of searches along the border the security forces unearthed extensive evidence of a hidden economy

01:28:30.960 worth hundreds of millions of euro what you know what he and he's got no time for all these high

01:28:37.160 falutin ideas and ideologies spare me your marxism he wants to kill britain's until they go away

01:28:44.200 that's it that he wakes up in the morning goes to bed at night that's all he fucking wants

01:28:48.480 don't talk to him about the proletarian revolution or whatever you know and so there's a lot of those

01:28:55.200 guys who are who are just like that whereas the political side is always almost trying to separate

01:29:02.480 or trying to find a way so we can just have northern ireland and just compromise after

01:29:08.100 compromise and even throwing the ira under the bus there's a lot of betrayal in that regard but

01:29:14.720 so it goes into it here what makes this area so special proximity to the border the absence of a

01:29:21.780 Protestant community, the undulating terrain and the powerful sense of rebellion throughout history

01:29:27.060 have all combined to make South Armagh the ideal operating ground for the IRA.

01:29:32.280 Hostility, you'll find this interesting. Hostility towards authority stretches back to the Middle

01:29:38.100 Ages and smuggling became widespread as soon as the border was drawn up. Modern day republicanism

01:29:44.580 in South Armagh is simply the latest manifestation of its independence and refusals to submit to the

01:29:51.080 queen's writ or any other rule from beyond its hinterland the security forces were soon to find

01:29:57.240 the ira members were often interchangeable with those whom defiance of authority was already a

01:30:04.400 way of life since the early 70s south armagh has effectively been under the control of the ira

01:30:09.740 um get this is wild road signs warn not of children crossing but of sniper at work

01:30:17.740 a red triangle framing a silhouette

01:30:20.660 of a masked gunman waving an Armalite

01:30:22.820 which like just

01:30:24.340 signs like be careful

01:30:26.600 there's a sniper over here

01:30:28.160 but I love that like he's

01:30:30.740 if I can

01:30:32.820 find another example that maybe

01:30:34.580 you can come up with a Canadian example but

01:30:36.100 in America those would be the Appalachians

01:30:38.680 you know like just a people

01:30:40.660 there's something

01:30:42.180 in their blood and in their bones

01:30:44.380 they don't like authority they want to

01:30:46.560 do their own thing

01:30:47.660 if you don't want to fuck with them in the mountains

01:30:50.580 don't come in there you leave them alone

01:30:52.700 right and they will

01:30:54.360 take it they will take it to the trees

01:30:56.320 they will do the exact same thing

01:30:58.160 if you're going in there so that's the only

01:31:00.440 other type I could think

01:31:02.540 of like what does that describe

01:31:04.580 Quebec

01:31:05.140 you know what I mean like

01:31:07.720 this is what I was trying to say before how

01:31:10.320 much do you hate your enemy

01:31:12.480 how much will

01:31:14.480 you like fight and die against

01:31:16.400 them just to kick them out because that's what these people believe like they they have hated

01:31:21.360 britain for like damn near a thousand years they've hated britain for as long as there's been a britain

01:31:31.040 and so when we wonder let's just say we're thinking how could we replicate that or how

01:31:37.840 could any group replicate that like you need to look at the stock of that nation do you have a

01:31:43.520 people there who are primed and ready for this do you have a people that would accept this you know

01:31:49.440 let's say america invaded canada tomorrow how many people would actually fight how many people

01:31:55.040 really hate americans really yeah like you know certain people in the far right but with your

01:32:01.840 average liberal like first of all the ones who hate americans would they do anything like the

01:32:06.320 liberals the elbows up people they do anything probably not then the people who are able to

01:32:12.000 fight and defend would they actually do it you know what i mean like do do you have that fire to

01:32:17.040 have a multi-generational war do you have the do you have the drive to like lose family lose your

01:32:24.800 sons to this that's what they had that's what the vietcong had see what i'm saying yeah yeah so when

01:32:32.480 i look at at this as the gold standard and say hypothetically could anything like that happen

01:32:38.960 in canada i'm not sure i don't like i don't think we're there yet i don't think the populace would

01:32:46.000 be on the side of that like the populace here was on the side of the ira and i don't think it was

01:32:52.560 just because of propaganda actually only the ira had a lot of propaganda they had like little

01:32:56.880 newspapers and leaflets and things but you know they weren't really trying to win hearts and

01:33:01.680 minds the hearts and minds were there especially in these territories so it says here a unique

01:33:07.760 aspect of the ira in south armagh and one that accounts for much of its success is the remarkable

01:33:12.800 remarkable continuity of personnel over nearly three decades of conflict most of the men who

01:33:18.800 fought alongside tom murphy who we described in the early 70s remain senior ira figures

01:33:24.720 um murphy's deputy a man known as the undertaker awesome is now the ira's director of finance

01:33:31.760 can you imagine that just a an irish guys the undertaker is your the master of finance

01:33:38.800 he has long been a member of the northern command a body which controls the ira and what describes as

01:33:43.360 occupied six countries um and here you get to an interesting part here he says uh iman larkin

01:33:51.520 a sin fein counselor who broke from them in 1986 said that you'll find this interesting as well

01:33:58.640 he said that family links stretching back more than a hundred years would be a factor when

01:34:03.520 assessing whether a young man should be recruited to the republican movement which means the ira

01:34:08.800 trust had to be earned but it also had to be based on how a person's family is regarded

01:34:13.680 betrayal has been rare because such an act is regarded as unnatural cutting across blood ties

01:34:20.160 as well as those of field team which again is so interesting can you even do that here

01:34:25.360 like could could you have that as like a requirement versus you can try with some but

01:34:32.880 like not not like there you can you can manufacture it and i don't i don't mean to to diminish the how

01:34:38.640 valuable that is because i like that but it's not as though that's scientific you know it's not as

01:34:44.520 though there's actually something in your blood that ties you like physically in your blood it's

01:34:49.260 the belief that you are part of lineage that you are the descendant of this great line

01:34:55.420 that's what keeps you going if you could convince someone even falsely that they were part of that

01:35:01.200 lineage then they would fight and they wouldn't betray you so but yeah i mean obviously this is

01:35:05.920 an excellent method here's some of the stuff they were dealing with he says the south armand brigade

01:35:14.140 has pioneered the use of mortars with eight of the 11 new types manufactured since 1974 first being

01:35:21.500 fired by the cross malgan ira unit sem it's i don't know much about how mortars are manufactured

01:35:28.300 but i found this interesting semtex was first used by the ira south armagh and radio controlled bombs

01:35:34.460 were developed there bicycles torches irish tricolors and the body and the bodies of informers

01:35:42.380 have all been used with elaborately booby trap the bombs so like yeah it could be corpses of rats too

01:35:48.940 it can be whatever that that's that's cool as um just to give an idea of what a bombing was like

01:35:59.020 there's a description here of one of the most notorious ones i just want to get this how he says

01:36:04.140 the ira was as meticulous about planning the movement of the bomb from south armats to south

01:36:09.660 key as it had been in constructing the car transporter they're talking about one of the

01:36:14.300 bombs that was going off in england and how they would smuggle it over there it was much more

01:36:18.940 difficult they were great at making bombs but it was very hard getting it over there planting the

01:36:24.300 car and having it not be discovered etc says never before had an ira ira vehicle bomb been fully

01:36:31.180 assembled in ireland and driven to its destination in england without using any sleeper units or

01:36:36.620 logistical support networks once the vehicle had been built a dummy run to london was carried out

01:36:43.180 with the to help out the ira volunteer selected to drive it to familiarize himself with the

01:36:48.540 motorway system and the route the dummy run was also a way of testing out anti-terrorist procedures

01:36:53.900 the ira was well aware that during the ceasefire this is during a ceasefire by the way they

01:36:59.340 negotiate this is one of the recurring themes of the peace talks because there have been several

01:37:05.660 points where ceasefires were negotiated in peace talks where there's so many groups that didn't

01:37:12.060 want peace talks they saw it as a compromise so you would see the central command saying no more

01:37:19.820 no more blowing things up and then it takes like a month and then someone sends a bomb to

01:37:24.300 fucking england just on their own and then it causes problems but like then you're then you're

01:37:29.420 fighting internally because you've got so many of these other branches that just think you're losing

01:37:34.460 your nerve says since 1991 the ira leaders in the area had been dry the driving force behind

01:37:42.200 the england campaign and had proved spectacularly successful in april 1992 a massive bomb at the

01:37:49.320 baltic exchange in the city of london had killed three injured 91 and delivered a devastating blow

01:37:55.700 to the financial heart of the united kingdom on friday the 10th of april 1992 in the heart of

01:38:03.620 the City of London, the IRA parked a van outside 30 St. Mary Axe, the home of the Baltic Exchange.

01:38:10.380 Inside the van was a bomb, made from £100 of Semtex wrapped in a tonne of fertiliser.

01:38:15.740 At 9.20pm it exploded.

01:38:18.380 The £100 bomb was the biggest to go off in London since World War II.

01:38:22.440 It ripped through the building, killing three people including Baltic Exchange attendant

01:38:26.380 Tom Casey.

01:38:27.380 Ninety-one others were injured.

01:38:29.400 The building itself was destroyed.

01:38:32.060 A year later, the city had again been a target when two men drove 2,200 pounds of homemade explosives to Bishopsgate.

01:38:40.400 The blast killed a newspaper photographer and caused damage at more than 500 million.

01:38:46.280 So, like, one thing you got to keep in mind is that most of the time, the IRA was trying to avoid civilian casualties.

01:38:54.900 So they would alert to evacuate the area ahead of time, right?

01:38:59.720 and there was only one instance

01:39:02.440 later on where

01:39:04.160 that didn't happen properly

01:39:06.280 the person didn't call in time

01:39:08.320 or give enough notice and then

01:39:10.180 that's when I think like a

01:39:12.120 woman and a child died

01:39:13.820 because they were walking

01:39:16.180 next to a car mom so that was

01:39:18.220 just sheer an aptitude but hey

01:39:19.760 you only get to do that once really

01:39:21.680 but I just want to say for the record

01:39:23.880 they weren't just trying to kill as many people

01:39:26.280 as possible

01:39:26.940 right you get that mistake yeah yeah yeah so let's talk about thomas murphy my favorite

01:39:34.360 motherfucker that's really what the book's about in so many ways because this was the man in south

01:39:39.360 armagh the pig smuggler's name was thomas slab murphy he owned he owned and controlled the slab

01:39:46.420 murphy farm complex straddling the border some two miles uh from cross mulligan a bachelor so this is

01:39:53.900 he's still alive.

01:39:56.380 He's still out there. You can read about him

01:39:58.540 a little bit. He's still called a lifelong

01:40:00.540 bachelor. I don't know.

01:40:04.560 For a guy of that generation

01:40:06.400 saying a lifelong bachelor

01:40:08.800 it's

01:40:10.280 saying something

01:40:12.900 if you know what I mean.

01:40:14.880 But a bachelor, he lived at the farm

01:40:16.480 with his elderly widowed mother

01:40:18.600 Elizabeth. Murphy was the

01:40:20.660 boss McCarty and referred to

01:40:22.500 and the use of the surname Carlisle Truckstub

01:40:24.840 during the Doctrine's domain was in Joga.

01:40:27.100 While Murphy is still relatively unknown to the public

01:40:29.560 and has never been convicted of a criminal offense,

01:40:32.480 he was convicted of tax evasion.

01:40:34.960 They caught him for several years of tax evasion.

01:40:37.200 That's why he was in prison.

01:40:38.400 I checked this as recently as 15 minutes ago,

01:40:41.500 so they never got him for any of this.

01:40:44.580 Exercising power in the same way

01:40:46.160 as a feudal lord controlling his vassals,

01:40:48.600 Murphy rules his domain through courtiers and henchmen

01:40:52.020 authorized to act on his behalf.

01:40:54.520 The few who crossed him are dealt with

01:40:56.060 mercilessly. By the 1990s,

01:40:58.020 Murphy was judged by MI5

01:40:59.700 to be the single biggest domestic

01:41:02.120 threat to the United Kingdom.

01:41:04.960 No

01:41:05.520 small potatoes.

01:41:10.400 And so,

01:41:11.920 I like this part here. From August

01:41:13.780 1971, scores of young

01:41:16.100 men in Sarthalma had applied to join the

01:41:18.080 IRA. A discreet approach would be

01:41:20.080 made to one of the older Republicans

01:41:21.780 and the potential recruit would soon find himself being interviewed by the local OC.

01:41:26.540 As the IRA became more organized, volunteers began to specialize

01:41:30.060 in areas such as sniping, explosive, logistics, or intelligence.

01:41:35.380 Volunteer Raymond McCreech, who was to become the third of 10 IRA hunger strikers to die in 1981,

01:41:42.560 used his job as a milkman to gather information from the IRA,

01:41:46.360 and he was designated an intelligence officer.

01:41:48.760 That's one thing we'll get to in the next episode.

01:41:50.220 just how robust and

01:41:52.320 intricate their intelligence network was

01:41:54.260 and they needed to because

01:41:55.900 Britain was just running

01:41:58.260 constant ops on them and trying to

01:42:00.220 turn people

01:42:00.980 so it says here and just to give

01:42:06.400 you an idea of what I was talking about before about the

01:42:08.280 peace talks leading to attacks

01:42:10.460 soon after it says and this

01:42:12.260 is what the next book will largely be about

01:42:14.240 in 1921 a truce was signed which

01:42:16.100 effectively brought the war of independence

01:42:18.100 to an end, July 1921.

01:42:21.000 By December, Michael Collins,

01:42:22.940 who led the IRA's negotiating team,

01:42:25.640 signed the Anglo-Irish Treaty,

01:42:28.640 although one of the terms of the treaty

01:42:29.960 was the setting up of boundary commissions

01:42:32.380 to make the border conform as closely as possible

01:42:35.260 to the wishes of the population.

01:42:37.120 For the moment, County Armagh was among six counties

01:42:39.620 making up a new entity of Northern Ireland.

01:42:43.080 Now, the Irish Civil War began literally the next year.

01:42:48.100 um in 1922 when the irregulars or anti-treaty faction were attacked in their headquarters

01:42:54.700 at the four courts in dublin uh aiken was opposed to the treaty and his links with

01:43:00.200 collins were now broken and he tried to remain neutral um we couldn't he said in an interview

01:43:05.760 in 1975 he said we couldn't believe that they'd done it if partition was to be we didn't want it

01:43:10.880 at all we could not believe that they put us in the north people were confused by it and all

01:43:15.440 demoralized so like every time there was peace there was such seething there was such anger

01:43:23.020 fell throughout all of them and that's why they would eventually turn against the leadership too

01:43:26.800 but it's always a matter of time until they just start like honestly like all you need is like a

01:43:32.060 few snipers out there and they just start start up again and it says here one of the biggest attacks

01:43:40.240 and one that was that would go down in ira history was uh the assassination of lord

01:43:49.000 mountbotten um this was a very very important man who was blown up in his boat and i think we would

01:43:56.220 have talked about it at one point maybe it was in war of the flea there's this sounds familiar

01:44:02.340 but it says here um after a late breakfast of mackerel lord mountain bond and six others had

01:44:09.200 set out in his boat's shadow to pull lobster pots and fish in the bay five minutes from the shore

01:44:15.100 a 50 pound bomb placed in the bottom of the boat exploded killing uh his grandson paul maxwell

01:44:22.840 the 15 year old boat boy lord mountain bottom's legs were blown off and he drowned in the water

01:44:29.020 the man who had put the bomb together and driven it to mulligmore was tommy mcmahon who had been

01:44:35.820 behind a string of landmine attacks in south armagh in the 70s intelligence documents name

01:44:41.320 as the man who made the landmine that killed corporal harrison and some other people

01:44:44.920 and this was called sort of the narrow water massacre and so narrow water threw the security

01:44:51.320 forces into confusion and drove a wedge between the army and the ruc which were you have to say

01:44:57.300 like the british were sending different divisions and different departments to get this under

01:45:02.300 control you know they were trying to hire crack teams of veterans and they're waging guerrilla

01:45:09.820 warfare in ireland at the time because the regular arm you know they get into this in the next book

01:45:14.860 where he says like they had the army there but they were never officially at war so because they

01:45:20.700 were never officially at war the army can't really do anything they can help the cops but that's about

01:45:25.340 it now when people look to this to try and transplant it into the present remember that we

01:45:32.620 don't live in those circumstances the cops are already militarized you know we are living in a

01:45:37.900 security panopticon right like there's a lot that the ira could get away with that i don't think

01:45:44.140 anyone could get away with right now so like you know gold there's a lot that they could take

01:45:49.220 advantage of there um two days after the attack mrs thatcher who had been prime minister for less

01:45:55.800 than four months flew to northern ireland to be briefed on the security crisis

01:45:59.700 and i love this part so again peace talk then war huge assassination

01:46:08.300 they're still they're having these secret meetings and the way they arrange these

01:46:13.860 meetings is really interesting because you know people need to be driven in trunks

01:46:17.320 to secret locations and then to a second location

01:46:20.420 just to have these roundtable leadership meetings.

01:46:24.100 And I think you'll like this.

01:46:25.180 He says, Murphy's attitude was always a little different.

01:46:28.980 Sean O'Callaghan, head of the IRA Southern Command,

01:46:31.820 remembers him attending one meeting

01:46:33.700 of the IRA's Revolutionary Council in 1983.

01:46:37.820 The Revolutionary Council, a Republican think tank

01:46:41.120 set up to discuss the long-term strategy,

01:46:43.380 was held in a Republican home in Charlestown

01:46:46.020 in county mayo like most ira meetings it involved people arriving at different times by different

01:46:52.180 means the participants would often not know exactly where they were headed before the meeting

01:46:56.500 there seemed to be a sort of ritual between doherty and murphy were doherty introvers

01:47:00.740 introducing by saying so how are we going to win the war tom and then thomas murphy replied

01:47:06.340 we'll bomb them to the conference table and then we'll booby trap the table

01:47:10.100 and i that quote that quote to me says it all and i think he meant that he was in a very

01:47:19.100 joking very irish way but i'm like yeah we're gonna commit enough violence until we force

01:47:24.920 them to negotiate then we'll kill them there because that's the victory condition right

01:47:30.760 um it was all very jokey and doherty said what about the sin fein delegation tom came back

01:47:37.120 in south armor we never tell people where we put our booby traps so he's talking about blowing up

01:47:42.320 the fucking political party too because they'll they didn't particularly like each other um

01:47:50.160 in fact as early as 1984 there was concern within the south armor brigade that

01:47:54.320 the ira was taking a back seat to sin fein for the first time since the formation of the

01:47:59.280 provisionals um the suspicion between the belfast leadership and south drama was mutual

01:48:05.600 in 1986 patty mcgrory collins's solicitor and a close friend of adams told collins he would not

01:48:10.800 be safe if you were tuned returned to newry at all um so it this is something you saw a lot of where

01:48:18.640 like the leadership was not welcome in certain parts of ireland because other leadership would

01:48:23.200 literally kill them and it's you know you have to set it up this way you have to have sort of

01:48:28.800 of a cell-like structure but like this these are the schisms that led to the downfall of the ira

01:48:35.340 in my opinion and we get to that i want to see if we get to that now because i know we have to get

01:48:38.880 going soon um so here's a part just once again describing the the strategy for england i want

01:48:49.220 to get to this so it begins by describing an ira informant someone has ratting them out um

01:48:58.480 He says, make me an offer, I can't refuse, said Bernard McGinn as he lifted his head, opened up his eyes, and placed both hands on the Formica table in front of him.

01:49:07.460 The two detectives in the Go Barracks custody room could hardly believe what the IRA man had just said.

01:49:13.720 He refused to answer questions during eight interview sessions conducted in the 51 hours since he'd been arrested.

01:49:19.800 He had told them his name and a few details about his family, and that was it.

01:49:23.040 now

01:49:24.820 McGinn revealed that the IRA

01:49:27.260 had been plotting to bomb

01:49:28.660 Birmingham

01:49:29.180 the plan he said had been discussed

01:49:31.840 in Peter John Carher's kitchen

01:49:33.880 in February 1997

01:49:35.260 with McGinn, Frank McCabe, Michael Carher

01:49:38.380 and one other president

01:49:39.840 McGinn said the Birmingham bombing

01:49:41.700 was to be similar to that of Manchester

01:49:43.860 in June 1996

01:49:45.180 with explosives being shipped out by freight

01:49:47.800 through Dublin and loaded into a vehicle

01:49:49.720 bought in England

01:49:51.080 McGinn confirmed that the Brigade

01:49:53.560 had been providing the main impetus

01:49:55.460 for IRA's Ilan campaign since the

01:49:57.500 1990s

01:49:58.340 by blowing up the city of London

01:50:01.180 the Republican movement was warning the government

01:50:03.660 of the consequences of

01:50:05.120 resisting Sinn Féin's demands

01:50:07.180 which is an interesting strategy

01:50:08.680 the political party says something

01:50:11.180 and then they do terrorist actions

01:50:13.700 to back it up

01:50:14.920 you don't see that much anymore

01:50:17.500 the IRA's reasoning

01:50:19.840 behind stepping up its England campaign

01:50:21.720 was that the military casualties in

01:50:23.840 Northern Ireland were not putting enough pressure

01:50:25.780 on the government. Yes. Soldiers were

01:50:27.640 becoming much more difficult to kill and their deaths

01:50:29.800 hardly registered on the political Richter

01:50:31.800 scale. And I guess the question

01:50:33.700 becomes, if you are

01:50:35.740 waging a defensive war

01:50:37.860 like the Arya was doing,

01:50:40.860 is it inevitable

01:50:42.040 that you take the war to the enemy?

01:50:44.360 Like, what do you think? Like, do you think

01:50:45.700 the England campaign was misguided?

01:50:49.220 Strategically,

01:50:49.700 let's say here's the part i want to get to this just because it's cool and i don't care who you

01:50:58.100 are this is cool according to army records since the beginning of the troubles the ira has mounted

01:51:04.660 some 23 helicopter attacks in south armagh bringing down three compared with a handful of other areas

01:51:11.300 in northern ireland the threat to aircraft has become more potent by the end of the 70s when

01:51:16.420 when the South Armour Brigade had acquired light machine guns,

01:51:20.840 such as the American belt-fed M60.

01:51:23.740 In March 79, Sergeant Petrie and Army Scout made a low pass

01:51:27.980 close to the Glad's Drummond Post Office to investigate something.

01:51:32.660 They basically tipped over a truck and used it as a decoy.

01:51:36.360 As he did so, gunmen opened fire from the cover

01:51:39.180 and hid in the helicopter and just sending parts flying through the air.

01:51:43.620 And I think, let me see here.

01:51:46.420 this is so cool yeah here's another strategy they were using um this guy named quigley who's one of

01:51:52.040 their weapons designers he described a described the kevlar rope theory of hoisting grenades on

01:51:58.700 a line underneath a floating balloon to get the helicopters if the line was entangled on the

01:52:04.620 rotor blades their grenades would be drawn in he also told uh johnson that mcguire had wanted him

01:52:10.020 to buy laser equipment seven years earlier johnson said he had suggested mcguire that the ira should

01:52:15.580 moved towards laser rather than

01:52:17.520 radio detonation.

01:52:19.380 By 1986, the attempts of

01:52:21.440 McGough and others to buy

01:52:22.700 red eyes had prompted the fitting of infrared

01:52:25.660 jammers on some Wessexes

01:52:27.520 and Pumas. So they were getting

01:52:29.540 laser-guided fucking missiles

01:52:31.480 and shit.

01:52:33.080 The army had

01:52:35.500 to adapt to that.

01:52:37.760 Similar devices had been used by the

01:52:39.560 Americans in Vietnam to counteract

01:52:41.480 SAM-7s. And by the 1980s,

01:52:43.940 when it was clear, the IRA had acquired

01:52:45.320 from Libya. Infrared jammers

01:52:48.380 were fitted to all helicopters.

01:52:50.620 So they were getting

01:52:51.820 rocket-propelled grenades and rocket

01:52:54.380 launches from Libya, and so they'd be like,

01:52:56.200 well, fuck. We're in it now.

01:52:58.460 We need to outfit these helicopters to stop

01:53:00.180 rockets from taking us down.

01:53:02.860 Which is, you know,

01:53:04.580 I don't know. I just think that's cool.

01:53:07.620 You don't hear a lot?

01:53:08.280 Yeah.

01:53:10.760 Here's another example.

01:53:12.520 Morale in the army and the police

01:53:14.200 plummeted in 1993 as the South Armaid Brigade perfected its sniping operations, and seven

01:53:20.840 members of the security forces were killed in nine single-shot attacks.

01:53:25.860 16 of the 24 sniper attacks in South Armaid involved the use of an estate car, van, or

01:53:30.900 jeep as a mobile firing platform.

01:53:33.720 To protect the sniper from returning fire, the rear of the vehicle was fitted with an

01:53:38.000 armor-plated shield with an aperture in the center for the gun to be fired through.

01:53:42.460 This had been tried successfully in 1978 by the gun team that shot dead three grenade ears from Sergeant Garmory's brick.

01:53:51.160 So they got like special sniping cars and everything.

01:53:54.260 Again, pretty cool shit.

01:53:57.420 So let me just say this.

01:54:01.280 This is the last part, and then we can leave after this if that's okay.

01:54:05.920 This is like the final, one of the final schisms in the IRA, it says here.

01:54:12.460 The first schism was between the IRA and the real IRA.

01:54:16.200 So it says there's this woman named Sands McKivitt.

01:54:19.520 That's her last name.

01:54:20.220 Sands McKivitt rose to become the most senior woman in the IRA, an organization dominated by men.

01:54:26.680 In South Armand, the role of the few women volunteers would normally be limited to gathering intelligence.

01:54:31.760 In the 90s, McKivitt became the IRA's quartermaster and assumed control of the arms dumps in Ireland.

01:54:37.720 By this time, he and Sands McKevitt, this guy and her, had moved to a comfortable bungalow in a smart cul-de-sac in a seaside town of Black Rock.

01:54:48.080 Print Junction, which sold t-shirts, souvenirs, and photocopying services, was where they were working at the time.

01:54:54.160 The following week, McKevitt and Sands McKevitt resigned from their IRA executive and formed a dissident paramilitary group that became known as the Real IRA.

01:55:03.660 A number of leading IRA men in Drimmingtree and Jernsboro sided with McKivitt.

01:55:09.240 So there's a schism.

01:55:10.200 They start their parallel organization.

01:55:12.880 There's another guy, just like the Undertaker, known as the Surgeon.

01:55:17.340 The Surgeon was denounced as a corrupt commander.

01:55:20.120 He was in charge.

01:55:21.060 That's why they were leaving.

01:55:23.080 Originally called themselves some fucking Gaelic nonsense.

01:55:27.520 The name Real IRA entered the common usage when dissidents staged an illegal roadblock

01:55:32.100 and told the motorists we're from the ira the real ira so that's how that started um so here we go

01:55:40.340 um the real ira got in a lot of trouble because they were responsible for a bomb blast that

01:55:51.220 killed 29 people and those 29 people were not soldiers uh so the real ira they did a blast

01:56:00.260 in omar on uh the 15th of august which was 29 people at 3 10 the bomb exploded as dozens of

01:56:08.000 people stood around and next to a police cordon in the wave of outrage that followed the real ira

01:56:13.680 was forced to call a ceasefire and the mckevets who we just described were nearly run out of

01:56:19.040 their home the couple were evicted from their business and in desperation they were calling

01:56:24.440 of priests looking for you know safe haven and stuff so you know the story there was they fucked

01:56:31.200 up calling in the bomb threat and so they called in too late and so people were just milling about

01:56:36.720 on the street by the car and that's where just just a bunch of women and children and innocent

01:56:42.060 people are blown up and then that was basically what destroyed their ownership of the hearts and

01:56:48.740 minds in my opinion and i'm reminded of this song by the cranberries it's a very good song i like it

01:56:56.380 i'm not a huge fan of the cranberries but it's called zombie and i think it's their most famous

01:57:02.820 song it's got a billion views on various platforms and you can watch it it's it's got it's about the

01:57:09.320 ira and it's about the troubles and it doesn't take a political stance really but the tone of

01:57:17.020 the song i think was echoing people at the time where the lead singer she's irish and she'd read

01:57:24.500 a story about a boy being killed by an ira bomb and she's coming at this the same way any woman

01:57:31.060 would any probably liberal-minded woman honestly because most of them are saying that you know

01:57:38.140 we don't really care about this conflict but kids are dying kids are dying so we're against it kids

01:57:45.260 are dying so we're raising funds to stop this and we're the people turned against the conflict the

01:57:53.720 moment regular people started seeing like children involved in any way and once they lost that once

01:57:59.660 you had the irish people saying what the fuck are you doing you kind of lost the plot i think

01:58:06.100 unfortunately and that's why you don't really hear about the ira much anymore if at all you know

01:58:11.280 there's still northern ireland there's still consequences to what happened but i mean it's

01:58:17.700 it's not the glory days of sniper attacks and rocket propelled grenades is it um and a lot of

01:58:23.540 these people ended up going to jail i don't know if you could have something like the ira now

01:58:27.420 and even in ireland could you the security state would have been obviously get it you know what

01:58:34.200 they had on their side was the terrain what they had on their side was they had the places to hide

01:58:38.380 but i think that sort of guerrilla war would have to be deeper underground anyway that's all i was

01:58:46.560 going to say on that what do you think about all that buddy yeah yeah it's good yeah all right so

01:58:55.900 i know we've kept you for a while so i will let you go now no worries man it was a good one talk

01:59:00.460 to you later.

01:59:01.720 We'll see you.

Blood Satellite - February 13, 2026

There’s No Seinfeld After 9⧸11

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