Blood Satellite - If 9⧸11 Was a 1984 [＂physical which empowered them on the Avesta＂]

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.760 blood satellite man i hope we can get through this because we have so much 0.99

00:00:21.120 dumb shit to say yeah oh yes anytime we have like a live stream and it's a bit more chaotic 0.98

00:00:29.380 and electric so i have all these notes saved up and man i got i got notes for days uh i got one 1.00

00:00:37.620 right here staring at me sporting's dick goods yeah i remember that how about that

00:00:46.520 you know we record so we're gonna see if we can get through this because uh as you'll notice 0.91

00:00:55.480 judas has never sounded better uh technologically even though with whatever the audio equivalent of

00:01:04.020 4k is your disease ridden body is coming through yeah i got a new mic just in time for you guys 0.95

00:01:11.320 to hear me going through a fucking some kind of infection so wicked sick at times he's got that 0.98

00:01:17.960 voice where he sounds like an old-timey prospector for the folks at home listen close when he gets 0.99

00:01:23.920 emphatic he will sound like a fucked dude hey i appreciate that thank you this is a great way

00:01:34.820 to start off because we record this episode these episodes a couple days early of course so 0.96

00:01:39.680 this is in fact where is my mind wednesday

00:01:43.600 i've got to return some video

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00:01:59.960 a show going on now there's a lot there's a lot to talk about now we burn through sporting's dick

00:02:06.600 goods faster than i thought i thought that was going to be a good 25 minutes i can't remember 0.98

00:02:12.640 the bit that i ran through there was all but i mean it's just an it's an inversion of dick's 0.99

00:02:18.240 sporting goods it's sporting's sporting's dick goods but it's not a dick it's not actually a 0.99

00:02:23.800 dick goods shop it is a sporting goods shop but the guy's name is dick sportings so i don't know 0.98

00:02:29.760 well for me okay here's the bit as i wrote it i wrote it down and i laughed for 45 minutes 0.99

00:02:36.480 because it is dick goods they're selling dick it's a guy named sporting and he's selling dick goods 0.98

00:02:44.160 he sells he sells dick goods and dick good accessories 0.98

00:02:50.760 yeah it's good there's just one thing i had i just caught wind of right before we went live 0.73

00:02:59.880 and i was trying to ask you about it because it's hard for me to find the exact information on it

00:03:05.880 but um there was just a video that came across my desk and i'm going to describe it because you've

00:03:13.680 seen the video it is of uh it's in panama correct yeah yeah there was some environmental protest

00:03:22.120 blocking of the highway in panama video of a panamanian boomer and then he says something

00:03:31.480 and just opens fire on the protesters in the in a casual in the way that a man who's shot people

00:03:39.100 before would do it yeah he does have such a casual expression it makes me like genuinely i think

00:03:44.580 there's something wrong with him like he was having a moment you know because he didn't his

00:03:49.180 his face didn't change he was looking at it the same way you or i were watching the video

00:03:54.900 like cool in the sense that we've all wanted to do that yeah of course anytime anytime you're in

00:04:04.180 traffic you want to find who to shoot he just had the opportunity to find the guy who's responsible

00:04:09.300 yep and it i'm not trying to justify it because i don't even know the full details of this protest

00:04:16.540 but it made me think that why don't more boomers do that and i'm not saying they should i'm not

00:04:23.060 trying to advocate for it but you would think if you know boomers or any elderly people anyone

00:04:29.940 who's getting up there in age let's say you're 75 that's the prime crime years as far as i'm

00:04:37.280 concerned right because no one's going to throw the book at a 75 year old no maybe you've probably

00:04:46.200 look if you're a guy you've gone your whole life wanting to shoot a type of person and i'm going

00:04:52.180 to try and make this a racial thing or even a gender thing but everyone's got a type of guy

00:04:57.580 who you know doesn't wipe the machine at the gym right or like you know the pick a seinfeld thing 0.84

00:05:06.720 close talker whatever the fuck it is guy who doesn't tip guy who tips too much you know a 0.53

00:05:14.760 landlord i don't know everyone's got someone and that would be the time to do like i i'm just 0.98

00:05:19.940 surprised we don't see more of it oftentimes from the older generations who might have been in a

00:05:25.080 weird war where their brains got poisoned with some fumes of some kind you know what i i was

00:05:31.480 always surprised by and i shouldn't say surprised but i was just considering it like you don't hear

00:05:37.040 about people going postal anymore yeah i remember it happened once once or twice in my lifetime the

00:05:44.900 one time where the guy went into his work and shot at the place but i just i was thinking about it

00:05:49.860 and again not advocating for it warning warning incoming irony but you'd think you would hear

00:06:00.080 about it more often wouldn't you yeah i mean do you think it's because it has stopped or slowed

00:06:06.160 down or is it the way the media reports these things like it's being overshadowed by juicier

00:06:12.240 stories that have the right uh racial uh slant maybe yeah maybe there's i gotta look at these

00:06:19.920 stories because i don't hear about workplace shootings you hear about school shootings

00:06:23.920 tragically we'll get to that in a second you hear about shootings all over the place but i'm like

00:06:28.180 you don't hear about people everyone hates their job i've always wanted to shoot up my workplace

00:06:33.380 everyone has right you don't act on it but i mean we've all we've all been three steps away

00:06:40.120 yeah you don't act on it but statistically you'd think that if everyone wants to which they do

00:06:46.960 someone would but i haven't heard about my whole life it's a numbers game and it doesn't like a

00:06:53.220 government office or like they name the worst job you could think of like you probably wouldn't hear

00:06:56.980 about it on a construction site those guys seem to like it or an engineering firm but a restaurant

00:07:03.080 sure yeah why the again not trying to give any ideas out there it's just i don't know yeah i

00:07:10.700 don't know what i'm saying you would think so i'm wondering too because it was panama and i don't

00:07:18.080 know the story i actually didn't see the video i mean i know the story from the article that i read

00:07:22.540 but i didn't see the video but was he speaking in spanish or in english did you hear him i couldn't

00:07:27.600 hear it at all i assumed it was spanish but i guess that's a good thing because because panama

00:07:34.480 is one of these places where if you're an american or canadian it's really easy to get a visa

00:07:38.580 and uh a lot of boomers will the guys that like want to go in the woods but don't want to be in

00:07:45.460 boreal forest will go down to panama um so it's possible that he actually is like uh you know

00:07:53.000 no step on snack in a woods gun boomer you know what i'm looking at it with new eyes now i'm just

00:08:00.640 looking at this guy yeah and he's got a santa claus physiognomy yeah like this is a santa claus

00:08:09.140 impersonator which isn't a distinctly american look i think right very yeah i think he might

00:08:17.560 be wearing sandals he's got his birkenstocks yeah he is i'm just watching the video i'm seeing

00:08:25.240 sandals i'm seeing a t-shirt with a button up over with only the two bottom buttons i've done

00:08:31.100 i gotta tell you i'm seeing a lot of american boomer checks here that might be a vest if it's

00:08:37.020 a vest it's over that's just an american guy who went there with some frontier justice

00:08:42.400 so then the story is like it isn't just a panamanian shooting a panamanian it's an

00:08:49.000 american boomer shooting a panamanian and it's then the better better question is does he live

00:08:54.060 in panama or did he just drive all the way down there like had he only been in panama for a day

00:09:00.140 and he decided to shoot somewhere these are the questions that could reveal themselves if we stay

00:09:05.840 with the story which i won't i'm gonna speculate and i'm gonna move on nice oh wait wait wait

00:09:12.840 wait uh okay police later shared a photo of the suspect kenneth darlington boom

00:09:20.380 that is a suburban name oh damn yes oh okay here we go 77 a lawyer and professor

00:09:30.620 who holds dual citizenship 0.98

00:09:32.960 in the U.S. and Panama.

00:09:34.560 I didn't call it, yeah.

00:09:38.600 You did, that's, right away, 0.99

00:09:41.220 see, we don't need the fucking news. 0.99

00:09:45.200 He had the right read on this immediately. 0.99

00:09:49.360 This was just a libertarian guy

00:09:51.240 who went down there

00:09:52.260 because he wasn't allowed to shoot

00:09:54.320 the environmentalists back home.

00:09:56.360 And he probably just thought

00:09:57.240 you could do that there, right?

00:09:58.480 Yeah, yeah, I bet.

00:10:00.620 you thought society's collapsing i can get away with it yeah like i go to first day in tijuana 1.00

00:10:07.120 i'm like how many women can i fit in this briefcase and then now they're on my ass 0.97

00:10:12.560 all right so this is leading into this leads into something i don't know how it leads into this i 0.98

00:10:22.160 just feel like it does um and this is slightly older news you recall that uh school shooter

00:10:30.020 in the christian covenant school where the shooter was a was a female to male transgender

00:10:36.580 remember that right yeah i do yeah so the big news was that this freak published a manifesto

00:10:46.380 released a manifesto and it was being kept secret and you know perhaps it seems slightly morbid to

00:10:55.040 want to see these things but it seems that motivations for other spree killers are often

00:11:00.000 given when it's politically convenient and everyone like the the nature of this event was so specific 0.98

00:11:06.660 like it's a transgender individual attacking children like what the fuck was going on there 0.98

00:11:11.240 and they had a manifesto and kept it from the public and that seemed suspicious people were 0.99

00:11:16.480 correctly suspicious and who's got the scoop none other than uh homosexuality's steven crowder

00:11:25.440 the nashville mayor's office has called on the city's legal team to investigate the possible

00:11:32.400 unauthorized release of the writings of audrey hale the shooter who killed three children and

00:11:37.660 three adults at the covenant school in nashville last march you know after conservative radio host

00:11:42.680 Steve Crowder released what he said were images of the shooter's manifesto. Nashville Mayor Freddie

00:11:48.140 O'Connell issued the following statement saying, I am deeply concerned with the safety, security,

00:11:52.360 and well-being of the people of Nashville who are grieving. The Metro Nashville Police Department

00:11:57.680 said Monday the images were not MNPD crime scene images and that it was working with Nashville's

00:12:03.000 legal department in the investigation. He gets what looked to be three pages from the manifesto

00:12:10.580 and it looks like three photographs uh that were taken in evidence or perhaps pulled from some kind

00:12:17.220 of internal uh department presentation like a powerpoint presentation they're just copied over

00:12:23.220 but it's only these three pages uh it seems to confirm everything that us schizos presumed it

00:12:31.020 would which is that this was not only a political attack but also a racial attack you know i'm i got 0.99

00:12:39.640 a page open right here here's what this individual says uh kill those kids those crackers going to 0.99

00:12:48.440 private fancy schools with those fancy looks like khakis and sports backpacks with their 1.00

00:12:55.600 uh daddies mustangs and convertibles fuck you little shits i want to shoot you weak ass 1.00

00:13:02.560 dicks with your mop yellow hair want to kill you little crackers it's a lot of crackers it's a lot 1.00

00:13:08.620 of this um so it seems socioeconomically and racially motivated um they tried to bury this 0.99

00:13:17.540 in the wake of these pages being released there's even um some people are trying to cover it up we

00:13:23.520 got uh phil williams here i'm reading the article so it says i'm reading on zero hedge um and we got

00:13:30.420 a tweet here from phil williams going multiple sources have told me that the selective leak of

00:13:35.500 three pages of the covenant school shooting manifesto is extremely misleading people who

00:13:41.220 have read the whole thing say there's something there for everybody another she hated everybody 0.97

00:13:46.860 it's like okay well then tell me about the page where this this insane woman goes off on blacks 0.80

00:13:54.080 on jews on it seems that this one is this whole page is specifically about white blonde people

00:14:00.680 and people she deems to be wealthy so i guess there's more pages i guess every page is a 0.98

00:14:07.440 different race according to this faggot but i don't think that's true um i don't i think this 0.97

00:14:12.900 is literally just a racially motivated killing um and you know there is a comment here uh i came 0.98

00:14:21.560 across it i forget who said it but one of the pages has a line by line sort of half hour by

00:14:28.920 half hour breakdown of how the day is supposed to go um from the prep down to the actual murder

00:14:37.120 um and someone made a good point because this is a female to male transgender so the whole funny

00:14:44.900 thing is like this is a very woman way of going about it yes like like she's got an itinerary

00:14:51.660 she's got little drawings in there like you know at 9 a.m eat breakfast at home heart around home

00:14:59.460 and this is like again trying to be um it's like a female psychology trying to be it's like a woman's 0.99

00:15:07.340 idea of what like an edgy guy would do because it's it keeps calling the kids faggots like like 0.99

00:15:12.480 a woman's like yeah guys they call everyone faggots you know like they call these people 0.99

00:15:18.480 pooners a pooner is sort of a derogatory term for a female to male transgender uh someone like 0.99

00:15:26.680 ellen page right and they all seem to adopt this archetype of like an early 2000s guy 0.92

00:15:36.420 like it's like dark edgy skater you know it's like again like a silly woman's idea of what men do

00:15:44.800 so no doubt that this woman thought that this is how guys talk but then they can't just break away

00:15:51.680 from doing like the little doing the hearts above the eyes just subconsciously it is a morbid thing

00:15:59.020 to laugh at of course no one should laugh at this but like the the anger comes later the anger

00:16:04.520 comes when you realize oh this was kept from us because it concerns us this was kept from us

00:16:12.860 because it validates what we had assumed it validates at least somewhat what we say about

00:16:19.500 these people and the narrative circulating about you know a lot of the republicans and such are

00:16:24.620 saying like oh they she was using democratic talking points like i'm not trying to make that

00:16:29.300 sort of argument but this is a manifestation i think of an anti-white narrative absolutely

00:16:34.520 like a good third of what's written there is very specifically racial yeah and also it's like

00:16:41.680 when something like this is kept from us it's difficult for me not to see like the fbi

00:16:48.180 and the feds as on the side of this individual but it also lets you know that the only reason

00:16:55.300 they would keep something like this from the public is because they're actually afraid of

00:17:01.020 white people specifically white men because i was thinking about that i was thinking about you know

00:17:07.020 why would they keep this from us it's the same reason every time we don't want to inflame anger

00:17:12.320 we're scared of what would happen they're scared of the response to this and my belief is that

00:17:19.240 um the feds as we know them the fbi whoever might be they really don't like white people or white

00:17:27.140 guys not because of any particular racial animus but i think they just know that white people are 0.95

00:17:31.800 trouble yeah i don't i don't think they're really concerned with blacks because blacks are pretty 0.95

00:17:38.040 easy to predict and keep under control when they want to you know it's just sometimes they permit 0.51

00:17:44.860 them to act wild they kind of know but it's white guys who are always going off grid we're always

00:17:50.980 up to something we always got a scheme going on that they don't know about and i think that

00:17:56.940 bothers them so like they they know that they release this that we start talking amongst

00:18:03.340 ourselves not about any terrorist or violent act but we just we start coming up with something to

00:18:08.800 do because it this proves that these psychos are out to kill you and it seems to me that that's the

00:18:15.720 main reason they're concerned about keeping this information from us is because i think we're the

00:18:20.380 only group in society that the powers that be can't really keep a leash on despite even the

00:18:28.100 goofier and more retarded of us you know the p even the most misled will still end with the

00:18:33.920 january 6th they didn't really know what to do about that you know we're the ones that they 0.99

00:18:39.380 can't corral and so that's why they are on the side of the transgender shooter who murders your 1.00

00:18:47.380 fucking children but that's that's that that's where my anger comes from what do you think about 1.00

00:18:52.100 that yeah yeah absolutely it it's it almost we talk about those other groups being golems 1.00

00:19:00.480 sometimes and this kind of you know it it puts it under the microscope a little bit

00:19:06.580 um yeah they they're they they're probably pretty worried about us getting upset it behooves them

00:19:14.180 to not you know fan the flames yeah when uh power tries to keep the truth from you it's because

00:19:23.220 they're afraid of what you would do with that truth that's it that's the only reason they're

00:19:27.620 afraid of what you will do anyone will do with this information um i don't know what anyone

00:19:34.240 would do i'm not trying to imply anything but now you know now you know that transgender people are 0.97

00:19:39.640 going to shoot your kids and they think it's cool and it's it's the women too it's not just the 0.97

00:19:44.840 male to females i think that's probably part of it too because they're like okay people 0.99

00:19:49.560 they get the male to females but you know the female to males they're more docile

00:19:53.700 nope they're probably worse the only thing that's standing in their way is that they become

00:20:00.720 men who are four feet tall and like that's the thing with elliot page you know it's at this

00:20:08.320 point it's just sad to laugh at ellen slash elliott page becoming a man and becoming like again a

00:20:14.220 four foot one man like i i saw excerpts from her autobiography where she was complaining about like

00:20:23.460 i put i was looking handsome i was looking fly as hell like using weird language like and then

00:20:29.940 i go to this studio party and they say i look adorable yeah you do you look like a child

00:20:38.300 playing dress up and it's like

00:20:39.960 knowing that even behind

00:20:42.300 the scenes in these hyper liberal places

00:20:44.340 they know this is a freak

00:20:46.320 show too

00:20:47.020 like oh look here comes

00:20:50.380 Elliot hello

00:20:51.880 Elliot how's it going

00:20:54.300 those are nice

00:20:56.140 extremely tall shoes you're

00:20:58.380 wearing

00:20:58.860 where did you buy those at the

00:21:04.440 big and tallening store

00:21:06.200 anyway and also by the way the the thing about that manifesto which i found amusing

00:21:12.840 which is that everyone assumed it was fake when it was first revealed and being circulated and 0.98

00:21:19.500 and people were saying a very intelligent reaction which was that this seems stupid 0.99

00:21:25.600 this seems like it was written by a dumb fbi agent trying to sound like a terrorist and it 0.99

00:21:31.820 was confirmed to be this person but i thought that was funny because every time we look at a 0.93

00:21:37.260 manifesto every time a manifesto has been released there's a day or two where everyone says there's 0.97

00:21:43.400 no way this is real there's no one that's that stupid but shooter manifestos are usually bad 0.97

00:21:50.400 it does happen a lot on our side too where we tend to not that we're all the smartest guys but 1.00

00:21:57.160 there's always this assumption that oh they wouldn't be that crazy they wouldn't be that 0.99

00:22:01.040 ridiculous like dude most of the world is full of really really retarded people especially if you 0.99

00:22:05.720 start looking like socioeconomically and racially like where are these people coming from look 1.00

00:22:10.400 it's a it's an ftm tranny she's already not that bright you know there's only two types of

00:22:17.920 manifesto coming out of the right it's either schizophrenic ramblings or it's infinite jest 0.94

00:22:23.860 it's just this like 400 page fucking philosophy of life tome andres brevick i'm not reading all 0.99

00:22:32.660 this shit sorry put put it in a powerpoint or fuck off that's my brendan tarrant i don't got 1.00

00:22:43.360 time for this shit put it in a dilbert comic miss me with that gay shit nigga fuck out of here 1.00

00:22:50.280 fuck you mean there's one other piece of news and this is just a developing piece of news um 1.00

00:22:56.040 continuing our arc on the israel-palestine conflict um i don't want this to sound like 0.98

00:23:03.420 a nothing ever happens uh segment but one thing i've noticed and this is part of a trend i'm

00:23:11.780 seeing a jews are losing popular support for this war in a way that i think even they're surprised

00:23:20.040 by, and we talked about this last episode. International condemnation of Israel seems to be

00:23:25.580 growing. In Westminster, we'll hear in just a moment about rising calls for a ceasefire from

00:23:31.280 the Labour Party at backbenches. How is this playing into the thinking of the Israeli government

00:23:38.360 and the IDF, this rising chorus of criticism from the UN and other quarters? I think the criticism

00:23:44.940 the UN is not taken seriously. It's caused outrage obviously from Israeli politicians, this

00:23:52.540 slightly cumbersomely phrased moral commentary by Antonio Gutierrez.

00:24:00.620 But on the other hand, when the US is looking with horror at the scenes from Gaza and the

00:24:08.140 thousands of people being killed there, the children who are being killed in their hundreds,

00:24:12.860 if not thousands um also um then that has some weight with with uh israel but i'm also hearing

00:24:22.720 a lot of um promises and declarations that our side is getting excited about but i don't think

00:24:29.680 will come to pass and the one i'm thinking of was um there was this rumor in france i believe it was

00:24:36.620 where they said we're going to start deporting anyone who's anti-semitic and you've heard

00:24:40.860 rumblings of this throughout Europe.

00:24:43.660 And then our side was saying

00:24:45.180 maybe this is a

00:24:46.640 covert dog whistle way of

00:24:48.960 doing mass deportation.

00:24:51.200 And maybe the Anglos

00:24:52.900 are puppeting behind the

00:24:55.120 scenes once again.

00:24:57.480 First of all, I think this is

00:24:59.440 a colossal cope.

00:25:02.080 Second of all,

00:25:03.080 maybe more importantly, this should have been first of all,

00:25:05.560 is I don't think that's going to happen.

00:25:07.640 I actually don't think there's going to be mass

00:25:09.220 deportations based on anti-Semitism or anyone who is siding with Hamas or siding with Palestine and

00:25:17.080 being anti-Zionist will get deported. I think that's just, you know, what we might call virtue

00:25:24.380 signaling. That's something that people do to make sure Jews know they're on their side. But I

00:25:29.100 actually don't think that's going to happen. And however, if it were to happen, this could be a way

00:25:35.700 for us to get what we want i'm like i don't think so because if this were true um i don't see how

00:25:42.840 this wouldn't be used against us in the immediate future that'd be fair yeah of course this is not

00:25:49.180 that would not be a good turn like if they were going to deport people just based on anti-semitism

00:25:54.760 alone that's a huge leap in the wrong direction and the only thing about it that you like is

00:26:00.040 you're getting rid of browns in this specific instance but the fact is is as of now there's

00:26:05.080 no precedent for them deporting people from their own country you know people who are citizens

00:26:09.220 he's deporting them where like you know he's kicking them out just because they're racist

00:26:14.500 or anti-semitic like you don't want them to be able to do that if it were to come to pass to me

00:26:19.600 people are thinking like oh maybe this is again the european man the faustian man behind the

00:26:25.420 scenes but i'm like no no this would be just jewish power and influence flexing its muscle

00:26:31.480 wouldn't it yeah and and i i don't like it's um i called it uh to this one friend of mine

00:26:39.460 theron um i described it as reversed wignatism where you know instead of seeing the jewish

00:26:48.240 eternal tarantula behind the scenes of everything you just secretly see the self-serving anglo

00:26:55.320 behind everything puppeting jewish interests and like that's more of a a deep yearning i understand

00:27:02.160 that yearning to believe that that secretly the white man's in charge i'm like no no no i don't

00:27:07.880 think so i think it's sometimes people are just saying what they are saying other than that you

00:27:14.640 know how do you think this war is going in uh israel like i'm hearing reports that they're

00:27:19.600 talking about a ceasefire right about now and effectively things would go back to normal i

00:27:25.620 think is what they're trying to propose it's so hard to tell i i'm honestly it's just

00:27:30.800 we joke about not commenting until the things concluded right i'm torn each day between uh

00:27:40.040 they are going to by tonight declare a ceasefire because the world has been turning against israel

00:27:47.920 so rapidly that they're going to lose all of their western support and then on the other hand

00:27:54.540 it seems like the entire western world from the government standpoint is so behind israel that

00:28:01.920 they have now they've now committed essentially all of the war crimes they could conceivably commit

00:28:08.400 without dropping a nuclear bomb like they've been dropping white phosphorus on hospitals

00:28:14.000 and using jdams on ambulances full of children for a week and and the u.s is just sending

00:28:21.720 reinforcements so and now they're shooting at lebanon and then turkey wants to get involved

00:28:26.120 and now siri is involved and iraq's involved and yemen declared war so like and then the other end

00:28:31.140 of it is now okay so it is it is it actually just world war three and i don't fucking know

00:28:35.280 and when i it's the same thing was going on in ukraine in the beginning where it's like

00:28:39.580 both sides one morning are saying there are no casualties and then by the end of the day

00:28:44.620 there there's all casualties and then by the next morning there's no casualties again like 0.89

00:28:48.380 it's all just fucking spin i really don't know i really don't know what's going on i really want 0.65

00:28:54.380 to just like we're always saying on this show i want to use this to figure out how i can advocate 0.96

00:28:59.400 for my interests and my interest right now is being a stinker i want to just tangle things up

00:29:08.000 I want to go to Matt Walsh and use this as a wedge issue and say, Matt, what do you think about working for Ben Shapiro, who's out there seemingly every day saying Israel?

00:29:20.580 The only thing wrong with Israel is they're not blowing up more kids or they haven't used nukes yet or they're the genocides taking too long.

00:29:28.940 They're saying some beyond the pale things.

00:29:31.960 I'm like, Matt Walsh, you know, you're supposed to be one of the good ones, right?

00:29:35.200 What do you think about that?

00:29:36.040 what's it feel like working for the blaze tv and glenn beck is writing you got out if you saw this

00:29:43.620 video it's so good it's glenn beck uh mormon i don't know what what would you call him a mormon

00:29:50.300 evangelical some kind of weird thing he's so weird yeah and he's re reading to the cameras

00:29:57.220 a letter that he also sent to netanyahu saying a tell him how much he loves israel and b

00:30:05.200 saying that he he's begging for israeli citizenship he wants to be a dual citizen

00:30:11.320 he say admit it i'm not jewish but i just want to i just want to be an israeli

00:30:18.440 why i don't know why i was born but there is something about the state of israel

00:30:27.320 that connects deeply to me.

00:30:31.340 To have the privilege to stand with the Jew

00:30:36.720 is a tremendous honor, spiritually.

00:30:41.820 So I want to read a letter that I wrote

00:30:44.360 that I am sending to the State of Israel.

00:30:47.100 To Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

00:30:48.820 and the honorable officials at the State of Israel,

00:30:52.160 in this moment, I have chosen to ask you for citizenship

00:30:56.360 in the state of israel i have nothing to offer but my voice of support and some might say that

00:31:04.780 my support might be more valuable as an independent voice perhaps they're correct

00:31:09.580 but my request for citizenship is not about words it is about deeds like can we just like

00:31:17.300 set this on fire now this is ridiculous all these media organizations like i get like cnn okay new

00:31:26.040 york times yeah but these are smaller media organizations the daily wire can get god the 0.94

00:31:32.180 daily wire is not the new york times the daily wire can be metaphorically blown the fuck up

00:31:38.900 yeah yeah or why not make some you know there's been plenty of good guys on rebel but it's run by

00:31:44.280 a big fat jew and so they always have the wrong take on anything related to israel that's probably

00:31:49.500 even a better example and we've seen this across time with even the likes of faith goldie and

00:31:53.500 and people who are in that web

00:31:55.460 who aren't there anymore,

00:31:56.520 probably because of these reasons.

00:31:59.020 But there's still people over there

00:32:00.460 who, like Brian Lilly. 0.99

00:32:02.100 Brian Lilly, what the fuck is going through your mind? 0.97

00:32:04.200 I don't even know if I like Brian Lilly, 0.99

00:32:05.920 but who's a guy there I might like?

00:32:08.740 Most of the good ones are gone.

00:32:10.400 There have been some good ones

00:32:11.420 over the past 10 years,

00:32:12.420 but most of them have all been kicked. 0.98

00:32:15.360 Brian Lilly's a little bit of a goof. 0.99

00:32:17.860 I like him, but he's loony. 0.96

00:32:20.580 I look at Rebel News and Rebel Media, 0.93

00:32:22.980 broadly i'm like you're not big enough to be this jewish

00:32:27.380 to be this wretchedly jewish you should be wealthy you should be in a big institution 0.79

00:32:36.560 where they can't get you as levon you can get gotten by which i mean your advertisers whatever 0.93

00:32:42.280 you're not that popular you're already like not popping the mainstream i don't know who exactly

00:32:47.780 popular with like i would think kind of popular with the right libertarian types but he's been 0.93

00:32:55.320 on a war against uh the diagonal jeremy mckenzie block so i'm like who the fuck is your audience 0.93

00:33:01.880 let's just get rid of them clear them out clear them out clear them out you're gonna clear them 0.86

00:33:08.600 out you're gonna clear them out as well there needs to be a new start the blaze who is watching

00:33:13.380 the blaze i know who watches the blaze it's you know boomers and stuff but it's like

00:33:16.840 i think now is the time where even they're getting sick of this they have to be this is

00:33:23.600 the worst i've ever seen it this is the the most crazed and manic i think i've ever seen 0.50

00:33:30.560 the israel lobby or the zionists in this country and like with jewish celebrities backing it up 0.95

00:33:38.720 like people you like people oh i like larry david i like these people they're acting ludicrous right 0.93

00:33:45.460 now and they're saying the worst shit i'm like now's the time to get people to tune out of that

00:33:50.060 yeah all these guys like even like dave rubin i don't know who the audience for dave rubin is

00:33:55.620 anymore the end rubin is such a funny one too because he's been so so distant from israel and

00:34:03.780 judaism and it was i feel like for maybe five years ago it was kind of a faux pas for our guys

00:34:10.380 to call ruben a jew because largely the stuff he was talking about was kind of milquetoast center

00:34:16.740 right he seemed like a decent guy but it's always niggling in the back of your mind he's jewish

00:34:21.780 you're gonna find out and then here it is and he's all of a sudden like totally you sweetie boy 0.97

00:34:28.540 dave ruben is like calling for genocide it's fucking crazy to see it every time you think 0.99

00:34:34.660 you found a gay Jew who's like you know what maybe this one this is a certified it's been 0.99

00:34:40.600 who who thought this was worth it because he's also boring he's also not an interesting guy 0.98

00:34:46.440 like if you're going to be Jewish you should at least be Gilbert Gottfried yes that's the

00:34:53.300 starting point that's the rule you gotta you gotta be making a holocaust joke every seven minutes

00:35:00.080 that's that yeah no ticky no shirty all right um but uh you know what's funny it's that a lot

00:35:09.840 people have talked about this and there's a lot to say on this topic it's a lot of people are

00:35:14.700 talking about the end of wokeness or woke is over um and you're seeing this talked about in a lot of

00:35:21.900 the periodicals on our side um and i think that's that's kind of what's happening now like a lot of

00:35:28.180 the anti-woke stuff is just being revealed to be weird jewish stuff and a lot of people are kind

00:35:34.000 of checking out or realizing that that anyone who's really into that anymore is just a grift

00:35:39.580 like the culture war stuff doesn't seem that relevant anymore like i don't know what the

00:35:45.260 tim pools of the world are going to do i think he's just switched over to talking about how

00:35:50.380 there's going to be a civil war any day now but now's a good time for the people still making

00:35:55.900 money like steven crowder being anti-woke steven crowder is like one of the guys who makes all of

00:36:02.020 his money being anti-woke but like what what do you mean by woke what is woke maybe now is the

00:36:07.760 time to ask because i think for the past few years everyone's to themselves assumed what they assume

00:36:15.380 about what woke is but no one has had a shared definition really i don't think we've ever talked

00:36:19.960 about it yeah because to some people woke just means liberalism to some people it just means

00:36:25.880 the gay stuff um or to some people woke just means esg which means like the financialization

00:36:33.900 of you know environmental like environmentalism socialism and governance and all that stuff

00:36:39.620 so it's like a a government-backed move to disenfranchise certain groups but these are all

00:36:46.840 kind of different things um and i was thinking about it and i was just thinking like

00:36:52.100 since no one has a shared definition of woke is we can't really know when it's over to me

00:36:57.180 woke was always a black thing woke is whatever black women are against because that's who came 0.83

00:37:05.280 up with the word woke yeah woke was stay woke and i was coming from like black militant ladies

00:37:11.000 uh the ones the types of women who grabbed the mic from bernie sanders that one time remember that

00:37:17.420 yeah yeah those ones who invented woke and then we all just kind of piled in our own definitions

00:37:22.040 but that is difficult to say if it's ever going away because of wokeness just means liberalism

00:37:27.220 well that's not going away you know if wokeness just means like the gay stuff and like or gender

00:37:33.340 stuff like that's not really going away either but sort of the people who are saying you know

00:37:37.400 wokeness is over it's not taken seriously what do you actually what do you mean by that i think

00:37:43.120 what they might mean is the idea that you can make money off of it which in a way means that

00:37:48.960 this is really just the end of gamergate yeah defended

00:37:53.400 after all this time it's finally over that was what gamergate was gamergate that's what started 0.95

00:38:02.020 at this little shit probably which is that like we just want product we we don't want weird 0.95

00:38:08.600 politics in our product and that's all it is that now they're saying it's like oh the end of wokeness 1.00

00:38:13.640 is them saying that we can't make money off of gays and like like lesbians and like mean black

00:38:21.840 women like they just realize that and that's what esg is that the fall of the esg movement and the 0.83

00:38:29.000 financial industry moving away from that is they just realize it's hard to make money in here and

00:38:34.180 it's rife with fraud. Environmental social governance, or we call it ESG, the corporate

00:38:39.280 movement to invest in companies that promote progressive policies on the environment and

00:38:43.600 social issues, it may soon be coming to an end. Many, many people have woken up in recent years

00:38:49.520 to the fact that just as DEI in the public sector is a great big crock, so ESG in these other

00:38:58.280 sectors is a great crock it's a way to cover over often corporate malfeasance by saying but look at

00:39:04.700 all the good we do we're so good on dei we're so good on esg the the ones who are probably going

00:39:10.980 to suffer in the short term are going to be these conglomerates who have positioned themselves as

00:39:16.600 anti-woke because because what they don't mean is anti-jewish interests but they don't like what

00:39:24.000 what are they actually against um and i think they're the matt walsh's of the world are going

00:39:31.260 to figure out that you know to if being anti-woke means you need dual israeli citizenship like ezra

00:39:36.960 levant want you to do you know what is even being anti-woke that just means being a zionist that's

00:39:44.160 an odd thing isn't it do you i don't know how you feel about this for me there was kind of this

00:39:49.200 transition like when we were growing up um it was very uh it was like the counterculture right was

00:39:57.720 obviously a very left-wing counterculture there was a feeling that the government and society at

00:40:04.100 large was evangelical and right-wing and obviously a lot of left leftoids now still think that it's

00:40:10.700 obviously false and i don't think it was even true when we were growing up however i think there was

00:40:15.740 a time maybe a generation or two ago when we did have a conservative majority population

00:40:22.120 that was largely christian in its in its culture and belief and yet at that time we know it had

00:40:29.760 already been captured through institutions for for many generations by these by this this cabal

00:40:36.000 right it's possible that it can just swing back can't it like like you said you have all of these

00:40:41.540 large institutions that are now being built up around anti-woke, if they can capture a large

00:40:48.500 chunk of the culture and stabilize everything without undermining the core Zionist degenerate 0.98

00:40:56.680 bullshit, guys like Beck, right? Or guys like, I don't know, most, Tate, Tate would be a good one, 0.99

00:41:03.980 right? Like Tate is, is, is ostensibly conservative, but most of the shit that he 0.99

00:41:11.660 preaches is totally fucking degenerate and principled conservatives or sorry, people who 1.00

00:41:16.780 are principled right wingers hate Andrew Tate. And likewise, a lot of the stuff that, that 0.99

00:41:21.840 Jordan Peterson is preaching now is all totally milk toast bullshit about cleaning your dick 0.99

00:41:27.080 and then supporting israel and and so like is there a new like center-right majority that's 1.00

00:41:34.620 still going to be ruled by the jews regardless yeah what's interesting is um uh on our website

00:41:42.680 the vanguardist journal.com i just published an article that was submitted by a highly interesting

00:41:51.000 and intelligent person the um i don't have their name on it just yet because i just need to confirm

00:41:57.000 that they want a pen name

00:41:59.040 not their real name

00:41:59.800 but the title is

00:42:02.320 Paving Over the Public

00:42:03.700 and you would love this article

00:42:05.760 it was written as an essay

00:42:07.380 then we kind of massaged it

00:42:08.640 into an article format

00:42:09.700 but it's about how

00:42:13.300 the migration crisis in Canada

00:42:16.320 was a phenomena that began

00:42:19.000 as far back as the 40s and the 50s

00:42:21.900 and that he pulls

00:42:25.200 from publicly available

00:42:27.860 census data and publicly available

00:42:29.720 polling that show that whenever

00:42:31.680 the public was consulted about whether

00:42:33.860 or not we should allow

00:42:35.760 more immigrants into Canada

00:42:37.500 or that we should pursue

00:42:39.900 growth of the population

00:42:41.700 everyone roundly didn't want

00:42:43.780 that like very clearly

00:42:45.560 by like 75-80% margin

00:42:47.740 they were like no we don't want that we don't want mass

00:42:49.680 migration and then

00:42:51.380 you can see even with Mackenzie King

00:42:53.760 and through Diefenbaker

00:42:55.120 and even up to Mulroney, you saw these politicians who were interfacing with the public saying,

00:43:01.000 we are not going to pursue mass migration to promote growth. But then they just did it anyway.

00:43:08.220 The institutions just did it. And they muscled it through the House of Commons. And every step of

00:43:14.840 the way, people hated it. And they were lied to. This was never supported by the old stock Canadians.

00:43:20.620 But then we reached a point where there were so many immigrants that now the immigrants are voting in their self-interest and they can retroactively rewrite history and say that, oh, we've always liked this.

00:43:33.000 But he's just showing through actual data pulled from the archives that no one ever supported this.

00:43:39.580 And it was just unilaterally forced through by government institutions.

00:43:44.000 And in the article, he points to certain Jewish MPs and Jewish individuals who are, you know, it started off as it always does by saying, OK, in the post-war years, we should allow some European refugees.

00:43:59.440 then someone shows up and says well why just european that seems prejudiced and then like

00:44:08.100 that's how it begins and they just needle you with that until it's like okay well now it's i

00:44:13.380 guess somalis if it's that important to you and then here we are today where we're telling a story 0.83

00:44:21.400 that canada was always like this and it actually just fucking wasn't which is to say that like

00:44:26.860 there's something in the people still i think like they still don't like it they've just been 0.88

00:44:33.220 harangued and tricked into thinking that these feelings are unnatural yeah just like with okay

00:44:39.800 you're anti-woke like you need to make it explicit and i'm trying to find ways to allow people to be

00:44:45.620 more explicit about this where it's like what you're anti-woking what do you mean woke like

00:44:50.300 actually say it because like an older generation will say oh you know facts don't care about your

00:44:55.940 feelings that's my anti-walk okay what do you mean that like don't just give me slogans

00:44:59.840 but what what are you actually against is it gays is the homosexual movement is it 0.99

00:45:05.940 transgenderism it's like tell me what the fuck you need to say it it's important that you say 1.00

00:45:11.660 it out loud you know can't just be in the back of your mind that oh like you can't be dog whistling 0.99

00:45:16.840 yourself and i think a lot of especially older generations but even younger ones they're just

00:45:22.320 dog whistling themselves just like i was talking about with like hoping that anti anti-semitism 0.95

00:45:28.980 laws will just sweep out all the browns and not persecute the whites because that's a secret 0.99

00:45:33.860 anglo plot it's like we we've been stuck fucking dog whistling ourselves for like 10 years now 0.99

00:45:39.240 and anyway that's just what i i want to take advantage of what is purported to be the downfall 0.79

00:45:47.840 of wokeness really dig into that and say what do you mean by that what is really changing what is

00:45:53.480 becoming unpopular and why who is making money off of anti-wokeness and why and now that those

00:46:02.300 those groups have revealed themselves to just be genocidally zionist in their secret motivations

00:46:08.980 what does that mean for anti-wokeness what are we doing what are you for what are you against

00:46:15.740 you're no longer allowed to say anything is woke right now i don't think so i think now

00:46:21.200 sweep that out we got a brief window time where maybe people can be honest because everything's 0.78

00:46:26.240 so fucking confused and all the jews are losing their minds right now and they don't know what's

00:46:30.860 going on so let's ask people like what do you do you see this do you like this what do you like 0.99

00:46:35.340 what don't you like let's be real for a second let's stop dog whistling ourselves no for sure

00:46:41.080 absolutely and i think the the point somebody had said the other day that the this is you know it's

00:46:49.140 all 5d chess and this is all they expected it to turn out this way you know talking about the way

00:46:54.360 that this is all turning against them i don't think so i think it is just turning against them

00:46:57.480 i think there's some kind of either miscommunication or maybe they just aren't that

00:47:02.680 much of a united bloc internationally but whatever game the jews have been playing in israel

00:47:08.160 geopolitically with um lebanon and with gaza has not been in this the same interest that the

00:47:16.560 international jews have been playing in the western countries the way that they've been

00:47:19.980 getting their fingers into our governments and undermining our populations the way that they've

00:47:25.720 been doing it on one side has been undermining the way they've been doing it on the other side 0.94

00:47:29.020 and i don't think that's 5d chess i think they fucked up i think they they brought in all these

00:47:35.580 immigrants and the types of immigrants they were bringing in were people who i think a big part of 0.95

00:47:41.440 it was actually that they wanted us to be open to taking in the entire muslim world because they

00:47:48.760 don't want them in the holy land because it's their holy land i think that's part of part of

00:47:52.880 exactly that's admittedly what they want to do too but the the issue with that is while you are

00:47:58.660 bombing and genociding the holy land you've spent the last 40 years softening us up in brotherhood

00:48:06.360 to islam and you did more of that than you did toward the jews so it's it's like now is the

00:48:15.600 perfect opportunity like you don't want to go so far and be like oh you know we like with njp right

00:48:20.920 now we're all saying you know we need to stand side by side with the the muslims against the

00:48:25.140 Jews no Muslims are our existential enemies but like you said everything is up in the air right

00:48:31.400 now now is the opportunity to sit down and kind of lay everything on the table and say

00:48:35.400 what which of you know there's like there's no parties anymore just look at the issues pick the

00:48:41.260 issues that you actually stand for and work with those okay what are you a part of right now you

00:48:47.100 know like when you're watching the daily wire like to the Matt Walsh I just keep coming back

00:48:51.100 to matt walsh like what do you think you're a part of right now you know like is there any

00:48:57.420 is there any movement that is against transgenderism that isn't bound up in rabbit

00:49:03.280 zionism you know like really start unpacking what you're a part of right now and have a hard look at

00:49:09.160 it because i don't know there's no reason to keep giving resources and power to these groups you

00:49:16.920 know again the daily wire can be gone it's like it's worse off than breitbart breitbart wasn't

00:49:23.820 isn't invincible had milo fucking yiannopoulos as the tech editor they don't know what they're doing

00:49:30.600 these are these are more like i was thinking about the other day because i've worked with 0.71

00:49:38.060 and at organizations like this and i'm just wondering like are people still getting paid

00:49:43.540 nothing to work there because i remember the whole thing was like a breitbart people got like

00:49:48.420 paid experience a lot of the time or they're getting like dog shit for like articles they

00:49:53.380 were churning out and i'm like i don't think it's gotten better has it i doubt it i especially in 0.96

00:50:00.160 this economy now i bet there's a lot of these people are just doing it for clout anyway we'll

00:50:04.460 get moving on now because we got a few things to cover here um i just wanted to let people know a

00:50:09.460 few show notes here um you might find this amusing so i have a review that is featured on a previous

00:50:19.000 episode of a show titled popcorn and soda and this is a movie review show on the americana network

00:50:27.520 which is a network maybe some people are familiar with have a lot of shows like the god cast that's

00:50:32.640 a very popular show there used to be on the right stuff up is now it's over there and i think this

00:50:38.160 is also hosted by the hosts of the godcast a very popular lutheran show um so they were doing a

00:50:46.880 halloween episode and they were asking for reviews of this movie and they said oh we want the viewers

00:50:54.640 listeners to send us your thoughts on the movie like a five minute clip about this movie called

00:51:00.980 caveat and it's a movie that was released fairly recently and they had said this is the greatest

00:51:06.920 horror movie that was released in the past 15 years and so and i said you know what i'm gonna

00:51:12.740 do it i like you guys and this will be fun i i don't get to do a movie corner that much anymore

00:51:17.280 believe me i want it but i'm giving people a break so they wanted a five minute review about

00:51:23.760 this really uh interesting movie and so i delivered a fucking 10 minute scathing takedown of the movie 0.92

00:51:30.900 like i'm like i i didn't like the movie and i i held the lutheran church accountable for it 0.97

00:51:38.860 for the lies about how this was the fucking best 0.69

00:51:41.820 it's not like the worst movie it's it's okay but i'm like okay you can't go out there saying 0.91

00:51:49.760 this is the best horror movie in the past 15 years um i'm not going to review it now but

00:51:55.000 just let people know you can find that episode on the americana network i've been watching um

00:52:00.820 i've been continuing on my journey of only watching good movies though good hey i'm proud of you man

00:52:08.260 you stay on that horse oh i mean you want to hear what i've been watching of course well hold on a

00:52:14.880 second all right what have you been watching i'm not gonna nickel and dime you into an old

00:52:20.900 movie corner right now but um i was watching lawrence of arabia oh cool never seen lawrence

00:52:29.160 of arabia before um i saw last house on the left the original one in the 70s

00:52:37.080 very nice uh um barry linden from our chat famous barry linden recommended it this is again not the

00:52:46.060 remake um the remake i hear is pretty brutal this one uh really what this one the last house only

00:52:53.160 left the original i think thematically they were going for something almost campy like i i'm just

00:53:01.700 i'm not trying to reveal the movie but there is a scene where you know a bloodied half-naked woman

00:53:08.280 is being chased through the woods by a murdering pedophile and it sounds like a benny hill sketch

00:53:15.380 like the music sounded something like kind of a up-tempo yakety sax and i'm like the this is an

00:53:25.460 odd mood and i think it's on purpose of course like it's not an inept movie because that movie

00:53:30.420 you see how every other movie ripped it off because this was like 1973 like okay so i'm not

00:53:36.400 enjoying this terribly but i get how every other this influenced like there's a straight line right

00:53:42.860 from last house than left to like the devil's rejects right right like that there let me just

00:53:48.120 say this there is one part from the movie that i like which seemed pretty zaste um because it

00:53:54.240 features like a group of uh escaped convicts who are just brutal murderers and rapists and it shows 0.97

00:54:01.140 scenes of them like palling around you know just like shooting the shit and having fun um and they 0.96

00:54:08.260 have one exchange that's just dropped 0.99

00:54:10.420 there in the middle for no reason

00:54:11.720 they're in a car like a

00:54:14.200 convertible talking about

00:54:16.180 what they think the most

00:54:18.420 heinous sex crime of the 20th century

00:54:20.640 was like just like

00:54:22.640 speculating right and then

00:54:24.740 at one point they said

00:54:26.240 long story short they said

00:54:28.820 the man responsible was

00:54:30.400 Sigmund Freud 0.99

00:54:31.320 I'm like damn 0.99

00:54:34.720 that is 0.98

00:54:35.940 now that is social commentary

00:54:38.160 nice 0.99

00:54:39.500 damn son where'd you find 1.00

00:54:41.900 nonstop ass rape 1.00

00:54:43.180 actually based 0.99

00:54:45.320 I'm like I like these guys they got some good ideas

00:54:48.320 speaking of that

00:54:51.640 oh and also the other movie that I saw recently

00:54:53.700 for the first time in my life

00:54:56.320 Highlander

00:54:57.400 the original one

00:54:58.740 the original Highlander

00:55:00.300 that seems like a movie you've seen

00:55:02.620 am I right?

00:55:03.240 at least 3-4 times

00:55:04.900 yeah i watched it with uh my wife the other day actually a couple maybe a month ago when was the

00:55:10.200 first time you watched it as a kid i think that's the thing because i never saw it as a kid

00:55:16.680 and so i think if i saw it as a kid i would like it a bit more than i did it's not a bad

00:55:22.880 it's not a great movie but it's it's it's okay yeah it's like a movie that i watched as a kid

00:55:29.320 and this is funny because it has the same uh michael is it michael lambert the main character

00:55:35.280 um the the character the movie that i liked as a kid that i could still watch now is mortal combat

00:55:40.300 same actor he played raiden in mortal combat mortal combat is not a great movie but you've

00:55:48.440 got that fire from when you were a kid and you'd revisit that magic so i'm like if i was 14 i would

00:55:55.300 love highlander it would be my favorite movie it's got everything and and even now as an adult

00:56:00.340 i'm like the scene where there's like a lightning sword fight in a parking garage i'm like this is

00:56:05.660 cool i like this it has cool things happening but uh there's just some parts that kind of drag and

00:56:14.100 i'm like i don't really need sean connery this much you just wanted to show off that you had

00:56:18.960 sean connery i think um and there's certain parts that i thought were kind of confused but i'm like

00:56:23.100 you know what it's not that it's not a movie for my type of mind it's not a movie for a guy in his 0.98

00:56:27.900 threes it's a movie for a for a 14 year old boy this is the coolest shit you've ever seen 0.93

00:56:32.540 this is better than lightsabers that's the stuff and even my wife was watching she's like this is 1.00

00:56:39.360 a weird movie yeah of course it is shut up you bitch it doesn't have to like a lot of stuff now 0.98

00:56:47.280 everything has to be gritty and believable and then it's like no he's really handsome and cool 0.99

00:56:52.860 and smart and the girls love him and he's just the best but also he's a really good guy and he's

00:56:59.380 really nice and he always wins like fucking a man i will say i hope you're not describing the 0.98

00:57:06.200 main character of highlander because he is not handsome he is not cool he's just he's a weird 0.98

00:57:14.120 guy but also i did laugh out loud the moment they dropped like a a perfect like 1980s steamy

00:57:23.380 sex scene in there yeah the sexy you don't do you see anymore where it's like the cameras 0.99

00:57:30.260 at pointing at them and they're in front of a big window and you just see like a man ass 0.99

00:57:36.100 thrusting down 0.90

00:57:37.500 i'm not saying i want to see that anymore i'm just saying you don't see that anymore

00:57:44.760 yeah yeah and i haven't i don't remember like a modern i'm not trying to say like

00:57:49.580 it's it's bad that movies don't have that but i always thought like when i would watch those

00:57:53.540 movies this is a strange viewing experience like a you would watch that around your parents like

00:57:59.040 gross but then if you're in a theater too like you're all just staring at like so that i don't

00:58:03.780 know what i'm supposed to be feeling here just make it porn or make it nothing 0.98

00:58:07.820 make up your mind porn or death how about that um so speaking of which i am going to be appearing

00:58:19.360 on uh you're going to get a movie corner overload i'm going to be appearing i'm not sure when this

00:58:26.400 is going to air but i'm recording it in november and uh it's for the it's called the last thing

00:58:33.760 The Last Picture Show, hosted by Last Things.

00:58:37.860 It's a movie festival.

00:58:39.860 You've probably seen those before, like the Decameron Film Festival.

00:58:42.820 But it's going to be him and various content creators picking a movie,

00:58:46.680 talking about the movie.

00:58:48.500 And I was asked, and the movie I picked was Inland Empire by David Lynch.

00:58:55.780 Nice.

00:58:57.140 No one likes this movie.

00:58:59.260 Not even me.

00:59:00.360 even you don't and people who like david lynch a lot don't like inland empire i love that movie

00:59:08.300 and i i can't wait to just uncork on people i can't wait i got so much to say i got so many

00:59:15.920 there's so many theories out there there's so much weird shit you can say about this movie

00:59:19.800 which might not even be a great movie i just love it there's just something about that movie 0.81

00:59:24.920 that possesses me

00:59:27.000 and I think Prudentialist

00:59:29.440 is going to be talking about Twin Peaks

00:59:31.220 so it's going to be a real lynching

00:59:33.060 no

00:59:33.900 and at the end of this episode

00:59:37.380 we're going to be having an interview

00:59:38.800 I appeared on a live stream

00:59:41.620 recently with Oros Post

00:59:43.560 so I'm going to be having

00:59:45.320 that interview at the end of this episode

00:59:47.540 so people who didn't catch that

00:59:49.220 you can catch it here

00:59:50.520 I'm not going to tell you what it's about

00:59:52.600 you're just going to have to listen

00:59:54.080 um i don't know if i mentioned this last time but we have a video up on uh the paywall the

01:00:01.100 blood satellite winners circle that's on gumroad that's on patreon um if i didn't mention it i'll

01:00:06.900 just briefly mention it now it's uh the review of the techno optimist manifesto um i don't think

01:00:15.500 we talked about this but uh mark anderson who's a tech finance guy he wrote this manifesto which

01:00:22.220 is kind of like the opposite of a nick land sort of thing which is like you should be excited about

01:00:28.100 technological accelerationism and that it's you know what it is it's like it's mmt it's mmt

01:00:35.200 made into a tech ceo manifesto and so and and he wrote it he released it online and i just went

01:00:43.060 through line by line uh talking about it and i didn't intend to you know these things i try and

01:00:48.820 dash off in like 30 minutes 45 minutes it's well over two hours long um and it's it's it's drawing

01:00:56.200 a lot of connections and stuff we've talked about we mentioned the mmt we mentioned you know he's

01:01:00.700 out here saying that you know infinite growth is not only possible it's inevitable if we just

01:01:08.540 get rid of the gloomy gusses who've been saying that it's impossible yeah and that you know

01:01:15.360 language like oh our children can live among the stars i'm like that's by you saying that it means

01:01:20.980 i can't take you seriously and mark anderson he's a successful guy he's a serial entrepreneur he went 0.88

01:01:26.600 to the top schools and this is the dumbest thing you've ever read it's hard for me to to reconcile 0.75

01:01:33.540 those two things is that you know that when you see guys like okay you went to harvard 0.98

01:01:37.560 and princeton one of those guys and you have founded all these companies you know i don't

01:01:44.280 know if that's his cv but some one of those types of guys were checks every box of a successful guy 0.99

01:01:50.840 and they write the dumbest dog shit you've ever read and just it's lazy you know i mean like i 0.99

01:01:57.540 don't know like that really you think they're just doing it for fun like it's just pulp or 1.00

01:02:03.660 they were they're very serious about it i think he's serious i think it's uh it's when tech ceos

01:02:11.240 get political and when tech ceos and these sorts of technocrats get political and they take their

01:02:17.680 mask off it's always just you should just give us all the power we know how to use it you people

01:02:22.880 don't but we we do because we are we're secular humanists and we're coldly rational and we can

01:02:29.740 build you know the guys who want to build the perfect city here's the living units here are

01:02:35.020 the work units here is the leisure unit that makes sense why does that make sense to you people

01:02:39.340 no don't you want but everyone can be a trillionaire it's like he hasn't thought about that stuff

01:02:47.460 but he's not dumb he's not stupid he's he's you know i mean like there's been enough filters that

01:02:53.780 should have filtered him out but again they just still write this like you know you ask elon musk

01:02:59.720 or something like you know what do you think ask him about like a serious big topic like

01:03:03.740 what do you think we should do about wars like oh we should we should let an ai figure it out like

01:03:08.420 you just you guys just haven't thought about stuff and i used elon musk as an example as that type of

01:03:14.700 guy who's just like you know what if we just uh did war on the blockchain what do you mean

01:03:20.620 what does that mean like you don't you don't even know what what you're talking about

01:03:24.720 we should put we should put war on the blockchain though that's i mean for real we should we should

01:03:32.920 what what if we did war in augmented reality yeah okay you know these guys like instead of

01:03:40.320 two armies fighting why don't they elect their best fighter you know because like every tech

01:03:47.520 guy i don't like call them tech bros but every single guy like that has the exact same anecdote

01:03:53.560 in their mind and that's something that they heard someone say once they trust that they read it

01:03:59.680 somewhere but they heard someone describe how you know once in world war ii during christmas

01:04:04.600 both sides stopped fighting for one night and they met in no man's land and shook their hand

01:04:10.480 and every time you hear the story it gets more and more reddity and wholesome it's like and they

01:04:16.460 exchange gifts and they they each had and the the the officers gave them all puppies and they played

01:04:22.800 with the puppies and then they all kind of just tried to teach each other about their ways and 0.98

01:04:28.260 then they went and kissed on the lips the kiss and lips they did gay sex they did they so the 1.00

01:04:34.920 germans at the house they did the gay sex in no man's ironic right 1.00

01:04:39.940 ironic just imagine y'all must tell you that story at a party 0.98

01:04:48.000 i'm trying to do elon he's got like a strange way of talking like this and um 0.72

01:05:01.820 so you know that they they had gay sex in no man's life i don't know if i'm doing it right but 0.94

01:05:07.880 he's got like a kind of a stunted way of talking except when he's odd and then he's just unreal 0.96

01:05:14.280 he has he has a stutter and he has a bit of an accent and he also has uh he's very monotone

01:05:21.500 like he has no emphasis he's such a weird guy i'm just looking up right now elon musk doesn't

01:05:28.880 look like he's aging right do you get that sense like every time i see his body they're all on 0.96

01:05:34.240 these fucking pills and yeah like from what i hear about not from what i hear what i've seen 0.99

01:05:42.240 about human growth hormone it's that it just it makes you look like a tumor 1.00

01:05:48.040 like his abdomen looks like a tumor and his his face doesn't like you look at him when he's young

01:05:54.620 like oh this is a normal guy normal-ish he's got kind of like a bjork thing going on but that's

01:06:00.560 okay he's like a stay puffed marshmallow man upside down i don't know he's an upside down 0.98

01:06:06.740 stay puffed oh fuck that's good yeah oh man i heard he was one of these guys one of the early 0.99

01:06:11.780 guys on that ozempic pill which is like the it kills your appetite which is the like really way 0.99

01:06:18.360 to lose weight and then um he got really thin and then he got really fit again afterwards it's like

01:06:23.800 oh yeah because he stopped taking it and then everybody else started taking it but i mean they

01:06:27.660 obviously already knew that it fucking destroys your kidney and your liver but it's like when you 0.92

01:06:33.600 hear about steve jobs having cancer and just trying to chew a bunch of alfalfa sprouts to cure it you 0.98

01:06:40.600 know there's just something about these guys it's like it's not that you don't take your health

01:06:46.140 seriously you take it the inverse of seriously you just start doing things that that don't even

01:06:53.480 make sense like again you're supposed to be smart guys but you're just taking experimental pills

01:06:58.440 when you don't need to like he wasn't a fat guy elon musk was never a fat man yeah yeah like all

01:07:04.780 throughout his life he was standard man weight look at him and i don't see a fat picture of him 0.98

01:07:11.220 so why do you take experimental weight loss pills like you want to look like a fucking crypt keeper 0.92

01:07:17.640 that's a weird thing to want anyway so moving on we got some important things to talk about 0.98

01:07:24.360 there's one thing that's old news i wanted to hear what you thought about it and why am i

01:07:31.000 dragging this up again i keep thinking about it so you remember the news about the general lee

01:07:39.880 statue that came down it was recently melted you remember that right yes the robert e lee statue

01:07:48.840 um and there it was in the news because there was all these vivid photographs and videos

01:07:55.400 of it being melted down and WSA 9 got access to these pictures showing the process of how that

01:08:01.880 massive bronze statue was ultimately destroyed. An organization called Swords into Plowshares

01:08:07.960 oversaw the Robert E. Lee statues demise. Now let's back up to 2017 when the statue in

01:08:13.960 Charlottesville was the center of a fierce community battle that spilled into the national

01:08:18.360 spotlight over whether or not it should be removed because of Lee's ties to racism in the Confederacy

01:08:23.240 and a lot of conservatives and people even just nominally on the right were upset at this right

01:08:30.200 um just before i begin uh my reaction to that was trying to remind these people who are usually

01:08:37.580 conservatives and just regular republicans like this was what the charlottesville protest was

01:08:43.460 about you guys remember that right yeah like that that whole thing that you guys all denounced 1.00

01:08:49.200 and said it was just an alt-right fucking honeypot shit show um you know no matter what you feel 0.96

01:08:56.740 about anyone who attended that protest now i think at the time it was a decent enough protest 0.98

01:09:03.340 there was no reason to believe it would become the war zone that it did they did everything by

01:09:09.240 the book from what i can tell but they were protesting the robert e lee statue being torn

01:09:14.680 down they were defending it they were meeting legally to defend it and then i don't remember

01:09:20.420 any conservatives or republicans standing by them when that happened everyone threw them under the

01:09:25.620 bus now that that very statute was removed and is now being burned everyone wants to have a 0.97

01:09:30.380 fucking opinion well where were you back then that's all i'm going to say like this should 0.99

01:09:34.900 have been a flashpoint for the entire right but it was only only the the crazy nazis who stood up 1.00

01:09:42.420 so like i don't know like it seems that any conservative can shut the fuck up as far as 0.97

01:09:47.200 i'm concerned because they didn't do anything what do you think about that yeah yeah absolutely

01:09:51.540 it's pretty frustrating actually to hear people talking about it now as if we didn't this wasn't

01:09:56.460 like our uh our alamo yeah and again we're canadians what do we know uh we weren't at

01:10:04.080 the protest you know but i i i'm supportive of what occurred that day watching the image

01:10:11.240 of robert e lee's face in that oven being smelted down that's become a bit of a meme in itself

01:10:18.780 uh people like that image like the red hot face you know people have it as their avatars and

01:10:24.880 whatnot and you know as i was as i was watching that you know i i think it's important for people

01:10:31.700 i think it's important for people who want to achieve a higher form of media literacy that

01:10:37.480 every time you see something in the news like this always imagine a man with a camera standing

01:10:43.600 there and taking it remove the fourth wall from that yeah yeah yeah yeah as this statue is being

01:10:50.280 smelted down you're fixated on that what you should be fixated on is why is there a guy there

01:10:55.640 with a 4k camera like you've never seen a statue melted before you've never seen such high definition

01:11:03.780 video and photo of this be not only taken but also circulated so to me just the image of that

01:11:11.820 of them commissioning someone to come do it they had to hire someone to take these photos it wasn't

01:11:18.560 incidental right so i'm like oh then this is a humiliation ritual right yeah of course the

01:11:24.800 the only reason they're taking these these images and these videos is to piss you off to piss the

01:11:31.980 people off like us right and i don't know that was just uh that that was that was shocking to

01:11:39.380 me that they would go that far to be like not only most statues uh at least in canada i'll speak from

01:11:46.900 the canadian perspective we've had a lot of statues that were taken down uh sir john a mcdonald

01:11:52.380 canada's first prime minister many of his statues were taken down um and i know from individuals

01:12:00.340 who are working in various

01:12:02.280 municipal governments here

01:12:04.360 in Ontario that a lot of them

01:12:06.420 are just warehoused. A lot of the times

01:12:08.300 they'll remove the statue but they don't destroy

01:12:10.520 them. They just put it somewhere

01:12:11.640 with the intent of bringing it back

01:12:14.400 later or just putting it somewhere else

01:12:16.360 but they don't know what to do. They just want to get people to shut

01:12:18.480 up. So this is the

01:12:20.380 first time I think I've seen it not

01:12:22.400 only like ripped apart

01:12:24.540 but like it's a public

01:12:26.560 spectacle ripping apart.

01:12:27.960 i that the question was can the image of the statue being destroyed be as relevant culturally

01:12:38.680 as the statue itself now some people were saying yes some people they love the image of that red

01:12:45.460 hot face of robert e lee as it's being destroyed almost as some kind of not a new demigod or

01:12:53.220 something but like that's a symbol that's the symbol that we could rally around um and and i

01:13:00.480 guess i'll ask you that question like do you think the destruction of the statue and these videos

01:13:04.960 could be as unifying as the statue itself what do you think about that yes absolutely yes i think

01:13:12.000 they made a huge mistake trying to rub that in everyone's face because if they had to just burnt

01:13:17.040 it and made it even if they made it front page news but it was text only it would not have had

01:13:21.600 the same impact that is this it's almost it diverges on atrocity porn the way that they

01:13:28.860 presented it and the people today that have an association um like mimetic association with

01:13:34.860 robert e lee i think it's not even that strong it's probably strong for people in the south but

01:13:41.120 for north american right-wingers generally it's more the idea of we're right-wingers we're meant

01:13:47.540 to conserve our history and our culture and you took away a thing that represented part of our

01:13:52.820 history it didn't have to be that statue it could have been any statue it could have been george

01:13:56.280 washington because lincoln or whoever they've taken a lot of them down right but when you take

01:14:01.340 one especially one like lee and you melt it like that and you show the the burning red face melting

01:14:09.640 into the fire like i don't it's like you're we're saying earlier that they didn't want to

01:14:17.700 release the manifesto because of the anger it would it would elicit like you really shouldn't

01:14:22.660 have done this you really should not have sent that photographer in there because uh that i

01:14:27.960 think this will be an image that's used to galvanize people around this issue for 20 years

01:14:33.300 yeah and uh when i first heard that argument being made i thought okay let's consider is this

01:14:40.260 a cope and i thought about it for a while and i don't think it is i don't think it is for the

01:14:44.740 reasons you had said um and but also this ties directly into the book i'm going to talk about

01:14:50.880 but it also reminds me of one that i'm reading currently that we're going to get to in a future

01:14:55.680 episode but i'm the book we're going to talk about currently is empire and communications by

01:15:04.100 harold innis but the book i was uh just reading recently was um it was marshall mcclellan's book

01:15:13.100 understanding media um have you ever read that understanding media the extensions of man

01:15:19.640 mccluhan's a canadian guy he gets uh circulated a lot in this scene but i never really read

01:15:25.720 anything about marshall mccluhan even though i should have because if you're involved in media

01:15:30.460 or advertising or anything like that you know a lot of a lot of stuff is built upon his theories

01:15:37.720 and his work but i think he's often misunderstood and we'll get to that when we discuss the book

01:15:42.780 But there's this one aspect in this book particularly that struck me in talking about the statue of Robert E. Lee versus the image of the statue being burned as almost a different type of media entirely.

01:15:57.300 He's got this concept of cold media versus hot media.

01:16:01.980 So a cold or a cold medium and a hot medium.

01:16:04.820 So a cold medium would be any sort of media that requires you to participate in it for it to be given meaning.

01:16:13.800 So you would say like a cold media would be a telephone or a cold media would be like anything that requires the viewer to be a participant for it to matter.

01:16:24.340 Whereas a hot media is something like exciting and electric and can like exist on its own.

01:16:29.760 So like cinema would be a hot medium.

01:16:31.560 Radio is hot because it focuses singularly on the sense of hearing.

01:16:36.860 It communicates its intended message entirely via sound,

01:16:40.200 and radio producers work very, very hard to do that.

01:16:42.960 They develop mannered delivery techniques,

01:16:44.900 do careful editing and mixing, and so on and so forth.

01:16:47.600 There's no room for participation between sender and receiver

01:16:51.320 because radio is designed with a passive listener in mind.

01:16:55.440 It's dense with information, making it high definition.

01:16:58.860 um and it's not trying to say one is better than the other but it's usually a cold media

01:17:04.380 is overtaken by a hot media and i looked at a and maybe i hope this isn't me misunderstanding the

01:17:11.540 point because it's very metaphysical the stuff he gets into and it's very very engaging and

01:17:17.200 mcclellan is a amazing thinker and um influential man but um to me like the statue is almost cold

01:17:26.160 media as a medium it's just there it's inert it kind of invites you in you need to participate

01:17:32.960 and it just doesn't really have a lot of life and vivacity to it but the image of it being

01:17:38.840 destroyed does and the image itself and not only the image but the requirement that the image be

01:17:44.040 passed around like it has a life of its own it's not inert it's not cold it's got a a vibrancy to

01:17:50.680 it and it's evocative it gets you you see it and and it it almost doesn't need to explain itself

01:17:57.020 like a statue you got to read it and you got to bring it into your context but this there's a

01:18:01.660 different sort of life force to the the image of it being destroyed as its own thing and as a

01:18:08.840 different form of media as a digital image that's a meme right and that that meme can live on as

01:18:14.600 different iterations of that meme and maybe that face changes over time but that the meme itself

01:18:20.660 is the lifespan of the meme like to look at a meme it's the beginning middle end of the meme

01:18:27.080 isn't just one link in that chain and that's what's so interesting and so you know as we're

01:18:32.480 gonna go into empire communications i just like leading with that which is that what i like about

01:18:38.140 that in in the destruction of this old media it becomes a new media and perhaps has more meaning

01:18:46.560 because you know the question is you know we defend these monuments and these statues

01:18:53.440 and these relics but are they really evocative you know are we just being trad are we just

01:19:00.640 trying to defend these because we think they're important but do they really inspire us they do

01:19:04.960 for some people i'm not saying they don't inspire everyone but you know are you can have an interest

01:19:11.040 in a museum but does it really generate a an electricity within you for a lot of people no

01:19:19.180 for a lot of people it's just you don't like you want to defend it because it's being threatened by 0.98

01:19:22.800 a fucking dysgenic underclass of freaks but if it wasn't being threatened by a dysgenic underclass 0.97

01:19:28.440 of freaks you you would never go to visit the statue it might mean nothing to you whereas this 0.99

01:19:33.620 new form means something it can mean something perhaps even greater uh because its destruction

01:19:40.560 represents not only not just southern identity but this other again creeping dysgenic biomass

01:19:46.980 that's destroying america right now and he is it's this sacrifice it becomes now i don't want

01:19:53.560 to get too biblical about it but you know it it's ascended to a different form at this point

01:19:58.240 but um and in changing that media it becomes of the people now whereas before it was almost

01:20:08.500 of the state it was of the power structure and now it's back in the hands of the periphery of

01:20:15.140 the people you know it was it was um it was rejected by the institutions it was rejected

01:20:22.860 by the city these statues didn't have a home anymore in the centers of power so they had to

01:20:28.020 be adopted by the lower classes or the fringe classes or us what you might call the people of

01:20:34.720 periphery and that leads me into the book i was reading which is really i really love this book

01:20:42.540 and i love the arc that we're on right now this is called empire and communications by harold

01:20:48.420 and it deals with just what i was talking about there which is it's all about how language models

01:20:55.820 and media and communications have evolved throughout time and it and how these media

01:21:03.380 define the lives of empires and um he frames it in a sort of dejuvenelian way like remember back

01:21:11.460 and when we talked about juvenel about you know the high low versus the middle about how

01:21:16.280 this is where you get elite theory things like that about how the power can be conceptualized

01:21:21.600 as concentric circles with the center of power being you know the king the emperor the government

01:21:26.520 then outside that you have the intermediary institutions the clerical class and whatnot

01:21:31.300 then outside of that you have the people the citizenry and then maybe beyond that the slaves

01:21:36.280 and whatnot but you have those concentric circles and so it was saying that you know each of these

01:21:42.300 areas of power tend to generate their own media throughout history new technologies have created

01:21:50.960 new opportunities for communication and culture in fear of these opportunities those in power have

01:21:57.200 often tried to control the technologies and as a result restrict the spread of knowledge

01:22:03.920 before the advent of paper and the printing press religious authorities generally had control over

01:22:09.200 knowledge texts were professionally hand copied onto parchment by scribes a laborious and expensive

01:22:15.520 process after copying the materials were often kept in monasteries and church libraries

01:22:21.200 hidden from the public um and whenever a type of media was captured by the center it almost

01:22:28.560 inspired the development of a different type of media on the periphery and he cites examples from

01:22:35.280 egypt samaria rome greece goes all throughout human history and he finds these these revolutions

01:22:43.040 seem to coincide with developments of different media and this is where you kind of get into hot

01:22:49.040 and cold media where you know we'll go through this in detail but just to preface this it's like

01:22:54.720 saying that you know the the m the center of power in the empire they would love you know

01:23:01.440 sculpture it has a preference for communication that is optimized for time you want to make

01:23:09.360 things you want to make engravings and sculptures and carvings that will last centuries right

01:23:14.320 whereas the people are concerned with communication that is tilted more towards space you know it

01:23:20.680 doesn't you don't need things to last forever but you want to create media and documents that can go

01:23:25.480 very very far and wide and travel easily so you know an example would be at the center of power

01:23:30.840 you have a lot of you know stone engravings on the outside you have papyrus that's and we don't

01:23:35.520 have a lot of evidence that anymore but it's when you have whatever is developed on the periphery

01:23:41.560 will be optimized for space and and quick communication and far communication and then

01:23:48.220 usually when that's adopted by the center then that inspires something on the outside to develop

01:23:53.860 so then as you go through a time let's compare that to now the modern era so you have paper 0.99

01:24:02.000 which was once the people's the vulgar thing that wasn't that was just you know who gives a shit 0.99

01:24:07.920 paper, right? That is seen as the validated, enshrined way to communicate in the center of 0.99

01:24:17.040 power. That's publishing, that's library, that's academia, right? That's taken seriously, but it's

01:24:22.820 dead. It's cold. What's more exciting on the periphery? That's the internet. That's all this

01:24:28.640 shit. They don't understand this. And that's, if you want to see this in action right now, 1.00

01:24:33.460 That is how the digital world is terrifying the traditional publishing world, which and traditional publishing, once again, used to be on the outside.

01:24:42.640 That used to be just something that the the the idea of sort of popular literature was seen as vulgar and dumb.

01:24:50.840 And then eventually that becomes, you know, enshrined.

01:24:53.860 But now it's memes. It's the ultimate space versus time, where the communication we do breaks apart in seconds. You know, trends break down within hours sometimes. And so we're just in like a hyper realized version of what he's talking about in this book right now.

01:25:15.200 and i just wanted to say that to show that whatever we talk about now is still relevant

01:25:19.560 in the modern age so i'll start by just kind of reading from the book because i have a lot of

01:25:27.060 notes here that i just i'm going to read them because i like them and you tell me what you

01:25:30.060 think about this so he says monopolies of knowledge had developed and declined partly

01:25:35.740 in relation to the medium of communication on which they were built and tended to alternate

01:25:41.380 as they emphasize religion, decentralization, and time and force.

01:25:46.600 The tendency of each medium of communication

01:25:49.720 is to create monopolies of knowledge

01:25:52.280 to the point where the human spirit breaks through

01:25:55.400 at new levels of society and on the outer fringes.

01:25:59.080 So in the traditional society, this would be like the clerical class.

01:26:02.860 So in various empires throughout history,

01:26:04.800 you would have whatever the clerical class might be.

01:26:07.800 It might be priests, it might be shaman, it might be whatever it is,

01:26:10.200 But they would become like the holders of the knowledge and they become they would monopolize not only the interpretation of the knowledge, but also the processing of it.

01:26:19.780 And you would still see this in Judaism, too. He talks a bit about Judaism, the book, that what made Judaism so unique was how it emphasized its clerical class above all others.

01:26:33.800 Because, you know, within Christianity, you have, you know, you have a priest class and you have pastors, but you have to understand that within Christianity, they are nothing like the way rabbis are treated.

01:26:44.980 Like rabbis are treated as this higher order form of Jew, like the keepers of the knowledge.

01:26:51.560 And you still see that echoed within Jewish culture to this day.

01:26:54.980 but he was saying that you know at one time that's sort of that um mode of keeping knowledge

01:27:01.900 made it longer lasting than just like different types of records um now he says here concentration

01:27:10.180 on a medium of communication implies a bias in the cultural development of the civilization

01:27:16.200 concerned either towards an emphasis on space and political organization or towards an emphasis on

01:27:22.520 time and religious organization introduction of a second medium tends to check the bias of the

01:27:28.300 first and to create conditions suited for the growth of the empire and you know there's other

01:27:33.420 there's a lot of empires throughout history that you know when people think empire they tend to

01:27:37.260 think rome and every empire is like rome and america is compared to rome a lot and that's

01:27:41.520 not really how it is you know there were mercantile empires throughout history that

01:27:45.240 you know weren't even concerned with creating their own monuments they were just wanting to

01:27:49.540 be massive trade networks and some of the you know sumerian cuneiform scripts show that they

01:27:55.940 emphasized you know space over time and their writing was just to be made as quick as possible

01:28:01.600 and to transmit as far as possible so you know the idea of just having an empire that was true

01:28:07.420 empires didn't always try and be permanent is what he's saying and there's always negotiation

01:28:11.440 between these type what what it was actually trying to be he says here the concepts of time

01:28:18.940 and space have significance in how empires and civilizations prioritize their media whether it be

01:28:25.360 long lasting like sculpture or easy to spread like paper the concept of empire is measured

01:28:31.240 on the efficiency of communication prior to the written word oral traditions harnessed more rhythm

01:28:38.040 and poetry to make things memorable right and many linguists see the written word as a corruption of

01:28:43.880 that thought i never considered that before that was just sort of a an investigation you had in

01:28:48.720 the book um the the benefit of the written word was that the written word allowed people to

01:28:54.860 interface with an abstract world of symbols and concepts and improve their time horizons

01:29:00.440 but um i like the idea that yeah you have that um there's this idea that you know i actually heard

01:29:08.040 i heard in a song the cognitive trade-off hypothesis saying that you know when we were

01:29:12.600 monkeys our brains had to adapt more towards um you know in the moment calculations of our

01:29:21.020 surroundings so we could actually calculate more information faster but we had zero time horizon

01:29:27.500 so by the you know by introducing more abstract modes of thought we made it so we can conceptualize

01:29:33.920 time and space and things like that and and hypotheticals but it meant that we

01:29:38.440 kind of got worse at processing immediate data so i just like the idea that you know

01:29:44.700 there's an argument in the book that you know the written word killed human thought

01:29:48.800 i just i've never heard a phrase like that before and just to give an example of what he was talking

01:29:54.140 about here um he plays around with similar to like mcclellan talking about hot and cold media

01:29:59.680 he says in ancient egypt writing on stone was characterized by straightness or circularity of

01:30:05.720 the line the rectangularity of form and an upright position whereas writing on papyrus

01:30:11.480 permitted cursive forms suited to rapid writing and by escaping the heavy medium of stone thought

01:30:18.380 gained lightness a marked increase in writing by hand was accompanied by secularization of writing

01:30:24.500 thought and activity so you know we're not going to get into the whole medium is the message

01:30:29.060 uh thing by McLuhan that's a whole other episode in itself but it's saying like by the by making

01:30:36.100 it easier to write you change how people thought and communicated so you could express weirder

01:30:42.200 ideas so like as as you permitted and introduced different types of documentation and record

01:30:48.840 keeping you permitted new ideas to emerge and these ideas couldn't have emerged if you were

01:30:53.780 just communicating with sculpture so with each new medium comes the introduction of new ideas

01:30:59.660 so it means that like you know as new forms of communication are emerging on the fringes

01:31:06.480 it almost by its own nature encourages radical new thoughts i think that was just an interesting

01:31:13.660 way of doing like why is it that the fringes are always coming up why why is it that always new

01:31:18.040 media forms have weird new shit going on them well that's because like that's its nature to be

01:31:23.640 You know, he talks a lot about Egypt early on in the book, and he says the spread of writing after the democratic revolution in Egypt was accompanied by the emergence of new religions and the immortality cult of Horus and Osiris. 0.89

01:31:38.500 so in egypt as these new forms of writing were emerging they were coming up with new religions

01:31:44.280 raw worship had become too political and individuals found a final meeting in a

01:31:50.500 fulfillment in life beyond the vicissitudes of the political arbiter so it's like a new

01:31:55.760 revolutionary religions were emerging as you saw papyrus start to propagate

01:32:01.380 since to know the name of a being was to have the means of mastering him to pronounce the name

01:32:07.960 was to fashion the spiritual image by the voice

01:32:10.980 and to write it, especially with hieroglyphics,

01:32:13.880 was to draw a material image.

01:32:17.300 And this is where we get into...

01:32:19.060 I'm going to pronounce his name wrong.

01:32:21.060 And this is a big one because I know there's guys who listen

01:32:23.620 who know this book very, very well, the example I'm going to give.

01:32:26.700 But it's Akhenaten.

01:32:30.580 Akhenaten, 1380 to 1362 BC.

01:32:34.700 Possibly with the support of the English priests

01:32:37.400 who held higher beliefs as philosophers,

01:32:41.100 they came up with this crazy new idea.

01:32:43.500 The new idea was the one and only God.

01:32:46.920 So they decided to create one of the first state religions

01:32:50.980 as a result,

01:32:51.920 because there's too much of this weird new stuff

01:32:54.680 happening on the peripheries.

01:32:55.680 Let's make a new state religion.

01:32:57.460 And he tried to,

01:32:58.800 he attempted to introduce a system of worship

01:33:01.280 which would provide a religious basis

01:33:03.800 for imperial development.

01:33:05.420 the worship of Aten or the solar disc was a device for creating a united

01:33:11.880 Orient. So this is like the first,

01:33:14.320 one of the first examples of religious statecraft and there is a claim in the

01:33:18.540 book. And I think this has been backed up elsewhere,

01:33:20.980 that one of the very,

01:33:23.000 very first examples of a monotheistic mythological song was called the song

01:33:30.260 of the disc. So, you know,

01:33:32.760 just imagine a bunch of bureaucrats trying to come up with a new song everyone has to sing

01:33:36.800 and it just it didn't take off like it didn't work really so people still were going at raw and osiris

01:33:43.780 um he said the spread of a more efficient system of writing which followed the discovery of the

01:33:52.060 alphabet had profound implications for imperial organization priestly colleges held a monopoly

01:33:58.740 of knowledge through which they dominated successful successive organizations of political

01:34:04.260 power but the very process of monopolies contributed to the destruction of empires

01:34:09.780 dominance of monopolies of knowledge in the center of civilizations implied limitations on the

01:34:15.800 fringes particularly with new languages compelled to emphasize simplicity rather than complexity in

01:34:22.700 writing. Marginal classes as well as marginal regions demanded simplicity and weakened the

01:34:28.480 position of the elaborate systems of the scribes. And so this is the eternal conflict. And that's

01:34:35.260 a conflict we see even now where like in modern era, the document-based typographical bureaucracy

01:34:44.460 of the state apparatus is constantly threatened by the new forms of whatever's happening on the

01:34:49.800 digital fringes and sometimes you even see you know the technocrats engaging in this like why 0.91

01:34:54.480 can't we wipe all this fucking litigious nonsense away and actually find new ways and more effective

01:35:00.960 ways to communicate and we still really haven't resolved that and what's interesting is now we 0.97

01:35:07.200 are starting to see that we're starting to see the center of power trying to adopt more you know

01:35:12.620 interesting digital fringe ways of communication which is going to demand that we come up with

01:35:18.440 something new you know what i mean as they the same thing with bitcoin like as the centers the

01:35:24.580 locuses of power get a stranglehold over cryptocurrency you know that's going to have

01:35:30.380 to force us to come up with something analogous to that on the outside but like we just monopoly

01:35:37.180 the idea that a monopoly in the center of power necessarily encourages innovations on the

01:35:44.940 periphery no matter where the empire

01:35:46.920 is like it doesn't need to be by

01:35:49.160 barbarians or

01:35:50.960 serfs or any sort of like

01:35:53.100 dysgenic horror because some people hear the

01:35:54.980 fringe and think oh that the outcasts

01:35:57.480 of society it's like well no

01:35:58.660 it's just those far from the center of power

01:36:00.760 and you could see that in completely

01:36:03.160 ethnically homogenous societies

01:36:04.900 if you wanted to it doesn't

01:36:07.080 need to be Rome where

01:36:08.420 nearly everyone's a slave

01:36:10.100 yeah here's just a part about the jews that i found interesting it says

01:36:16.500 since sculpture occupied a prominent place in the support of religious and political institutions

01:36:22.480 it was prohibited in images by the hebrews thou shalt not thou shalt not make unto thee any

01:36:29.040 graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above we all know that the written

01:36:34.220 letter replaced the graven image as the object of worship. Interesting transition. In Israel and

01:36:42.200 Judah, the prophets of the 7th and 6th centuries reduced a multitude of gods to one and transformed

01:36:48.760 Judaism by giving religion an ethical basis. With few abstract terms and without powers

01:36:55.180 of rationalization, the Judaism of antiquity produced no philosophers. Religion was made

01:37:02.140 ethical by a personal direct vivid vision religion became the sole cause of all history

01:37:08.680 and historical narratives a device for religious education uh political and economic forces were

01:37:15.760 then subordinated to it the priest's code with the heavy economic burdens of a cultic system

01:37:21.800 left no place for a king this is how judaism became its own self-contained thing um so like

01:37:29.160 right around that was the idea of judaism being like historically distinct as like this new

01:37:34.140 creature is kind of no matter what you might think of that that is why it's kind of still around in

01:37:41.000 that sense um and and the the amount of power and influence it gives the rabbinical class

01:37:48.640 he's got this really interesting part here

01:37:52.820 um so a lot of people are aware of the term dialectic or a dialectical approach

01:38:02.320 a lot of people hear dialectic and they think marxism um and they think you know the materialist

01:38:08.860 dialectic and things like that um the dialectic being you know two opposing ideas and there's a

01:38:16.100 synthesis created in them now he actually traces that back even further he traces that back to the

01:38:23.500 socratic dialogue and the socratic dialogue is in essence uh a dialectic it's two opposing views

01:38:30.500 that kind of reach a synthesis at the end um and he's got this part here i'll just read it and i

01:38:36.540 found this i don't know where exactly to place this i just found it very interesting he says

01:38:42.500 the task of understanding a culture built on the oral tradition is impossible for students steeped

01:38:51.100 in the written tradition and this is something we talk about a lot like you know the idea of

01:38:55.380 us modern westerners to really comprehend how the mind of someone who only has like an oral

01:39:02.640 tradition works like even though aboriginals say they do they don't really like you'd have to go

01:39:07.840 find an uncontacted tribe and see how how their minds without sort of the permanence of you know

01:39:17.160 the written of written language or the ability the what when literacy gives you the ability to

01:39:22.980 think abstractly about you know the worlds of system uh symbols and forms they lack that

01:39:29.000 completely so how do they conceptualize time they'll conceptualize time and space completely

01:39:34.180 different than you right so he says um you know it's difficult for people like us to understand

01:39:40.980 that uh recognition of its significance has been evident in the concern of scholars over centuries

01:39:47.220 with interpretations of records but the similarity of the greek alphabet greek alphabet to the modern

01:39:53.540 alphabet and the integral relation of greek civilization to western civilization implies

01:39:59.700 dependence on the complex art of introspection with socrates the power of the oral tradition

01:40:05.540 persisted in his prose in the absence of a closely ordered system the life and movement of dialectic

01:40:12.100 opposed the establishment of a finished system of dogma he's basically saying that you know

01:40:19.060 what remained with us from the greek tradition is and that this is distinct to the western mind

01:40:26.740 i believe or the european mind is a dialectical approach to things you know far from being just

01:40:32.740 this marxist way of approaching the world like i think he's making the case that the dialectical

01:40:39.220 approach can trace its roots back to greek antiquity and that is still with that's in our

01:40:44.180 dna right now perhaps in all europeans and that will be completely absent in the eastern mind

01:40:50.580 that that's the case he's making i think there's i think there's a lot of truth to that

01:40:56.740 And he says here,

01:41:26.740 which was to change the concept of history in the West.

01:41:30.260 The achievements of a rich oral tradition in Greek civilization became the

01:41:35.120 basis of Western culture.

01:41:37.380 So he's saying that,

01:41:38.200 that oral dialectical,

01:41:40.220 like the Socratic dialogue is the essence of Western tradition as we know it,

01:41:46.180 which is an interesting way of looking at it.

01:41:48.220 And I don't know if that,

01:41:49.100 you know,

01:41:49.320 you want to say that's the acorn of which the great tree grew from,

01:41:52.940 but I do think like this idea,

01:41:54.600 like our minds can't almost can't conceive of a relationship with reality that is not almost

01:42:01.360 dialectical anyway i'm not sure people agree with that but i think there's for people who 0.98

01:42:06.620 were allergic to that idea because i think it's just communist bullshit you know it goes back 0.66

01:42:10.160 deeper than that um and he gives a few more examples here of the exact interchange that 0.94

01:42:17.080 we're talking about here he says parchment as adapted to the demands of monasticism had

01:42:22.040 contributed to the to the development of a powerful ecclesiastical organization in western

01:42:28.240 europe the monopoly of knowledge which had been built up invited competition from a new medium

01:42:34.320 of communication which appeared on the fringes of western europe uh european culture and was

01:42:39.320 available to meet the demands of the lower strata of society the impact of muhammadism which followed

01:42:46.180 its abhorrence of images was enormously strengthened by a new medium of which the written word became

01:42:52.020 opponent force the wide gap between the governing the lower classes in china facilitated the spread

01:42:58.560 of buddhism from india the monopoly of knowledge of the veda by the brahmins invited the introduction

01:43:04.380 of a medium from the periphery which could appeal to the lower classes

01:43:07.940 in china buddhism found an efficient medium of communication in paper and emphasis on the

01:43:16.620 importance of a knowledge in writing so all around the world you see these sort of mind

01:43:21.160 revolutions occurring as like the paper becomes more readily available and it's usually used as

01:43:28.500 a way to attack the center of power um and even even in the modern reality says the rise of

01:43:35.160 vernacular literature hastened and was hastened by the growth of nationalism um he says the papacy

01:43:42.060 triumphed over the council as representative of the church through the support of canon lawyers

01:43:46.960 in 1448 but its success led to the reformation um and there's a quote here from a guy named

01:43:55.640 rationale he says the worst corruption of the middle ages lay in the transformation

01:43:59.820 of the sacerdotal sacerdotal hierarchy into a hierarchy of lawyers and that's an interesting

01:44:07.640 thing too like you see all throughout in various points in history in these empires you see like

01:44:14.540 these revolutions by the intelligentsia and even in america you see almost like a revolution of

01:44:20.640 lawyers like how is it that lawyers have become to achieve such a high status in american society

01:44:28.200 that's fucking weird isn't it like it just happens that lawyers are sort of the intelligentsia

01:44:35.820 of the of the piece of paper you know i mean like they're the new clerical class they are the one 0.98

01:44:42.220 lawyers have a monopoly on the law and the law is how this entire secular humanist nation runs so

01:44:50.040 if you have that's why it seems so common for presidents and politicians to be lawyers

01:44:56.600 themselves it's almost assumed like to even rise to power in the society you have to have a command

01:45:01.900 of the law or be a lawyer in some way and like that's a weird thing isn't it but like in in

01:45:07.760 america it would seem that the clerical class as we know it would be lawyers i don't know if a lot

01:45:13.220 of people would disagree with that even yeah he's just got a whole block here that kind of summarizes

01:45:18.760 a bunch of them he says the growth of bureaucracy in the roman empire had followed dependence on

01:45:24.040 the papyrus role but stability assumed a fusion with religious organization based on the parchment

01:45:29.880 codex bureaucracy in terms of the state implied an emphasis on space and a neglect of the problems

01:45:36.340 of time the tenacity of the byzantine empire assumed achievement of a balance which recognized

01:45:42.340 the role of space and time the dominance of parchment in the west involved an exaggeration

01:45:47.860 on the significance of time a monopoly of knowledge based on parchment invited competition

01:45:53.380 from a new medium such as paper which emphasizes the significance of space as reflected in the

01:45:58.660 growth of the nationalist monarchies so it's like every time there's always a reaction no matter

01:46:04.100 what the medium is so again we go back to the McLuhan thing of like a hot medium becomes cold

01:46:10.100 and when that happens a new hot medium emerges and it's just always just switching sides and it

01:46:17.000 seems like I it seems obvious to me that that's just going to happen forever like that's just

01:46:21.660 a naturally occurring phenomenon that's why when we talk about this I like to think ahead for okay

01:46:27.620 what happens when digital communication becomes cooled when it becomes it becomes the statue

01:46:36.100 that needs to be destroyed to reinvigorate life into it you know

01:46:40.820 i just got one part here at the end that i like and i think it kind of summarizes

01:46:46.100 in a more modern sense ways talking about he says in common law countries particularly adapted to

01:46:51.880 trade and emphasizing freedom of the press monopoly of communication accentuates

01:46:57.120 monopolistic tendencies in the publication of newspapers, periodicals, and books. These changes

01:47:03.400 have profound implications for empire. And I think that's really where it stands now, which is

01:47:10.340 empire seemed to rise and fall based on how well they can integrate the changes on the periphery

01:47:17.900 and what they can sort of learn from that. And I think that's why in America, especially in North

01:47:25.900 america i think the center power is doing a pretty good job of trying to you know in a in a sense

01:47:33.900 ruin what's going on in the periphery and i think it's high time that as that's occurring

01:47:40.700 we start to think about you know what new media forms we can come up with and remember that like

01:47:47.280 the purpose of a media form you know are and i talked about this in um an unreleased real secret

01:47:55.180 coffee hours episode but um one thing that was kind of just sticking in the back of my head was

01:48:01.540 that real for us to realize where we are in relationship to power like we are on the outside

01:48:08.420 we are in the innovative space and there's a lot of us who i believe are thinking in terms of time

01:48:16.060 when we should be thinking in terms of space a lot of artists too they want to make things that last

01:48:21.140 forever and we might not really have that ability the things that last forever tend to be created

01:48:26.340 you know with its proximity to power our job really is to find whatever media is at our disposal

01:48:35.700 that maximizes space what can move furthest what can be transmitted fastest what can be understood

01:48:43.640 the easiest that's what a meme is a meme is like the the particle like the fundamental particle

01:48:50.560 of what we're talking about it is the essence of space over time and i think that's what the

01:48:57.800 the centers of power and the cool media is never going to understand it's going to try and capture

01:49:03.000 that every time it tries to wrap its hands around what a meme is it slips through its fingers

01:49:07.880 because they're trying to make memes permanent they're trying to make memes official make it

01:49:14.240 you know serious but it can't be serious like this is this is just the innovation of papyrus

01:49:20.200 And I think that we do ourselves a disservice if we look at what we're doing and try and think of anything other than, you know, we need to make things simpler and faster and more effective rather than just emulating what we think is more serious.

01:49:36.580 You know, I mean, does that make any sense?

01:49:39.880 Yeah. All right. So I know we got to get going now, but that was just Empire and Communications by Harold Innes.

01:49:45.300 once again it's um a discussion about how forms and media of communication are always

01:49:52.640 and it's it's it's tracking like the linguistic tension and the battle between competing languages

01:50:01.820 within an empire itself is fascinating because that is the relationship like when you think of

01:50:07.480 like the center of power the juvenilian concentric circles going out you're like well how do these

01:50:13.180 interface with each other like how how do revolutions occur how do these things happen

01:50:18.020 how is it that something could be occurring on the fringes of society that the center power

01:50:23.140 doesn't even know about well that's because they're using a completely different language

01:50:27.760 you know i mean um you know what i was uh just as a really morbid example i was uh watching a

01:50:36.280 documentary about how

01:50:38.300 they caught this infamous pedophile 0.98

01:50:40.600 a sex tourist 0.99

01:50:41.900 the Mr. Swirl thing 0.98

01:50:44.160 this was a 0.98

01:50:46.500 guy who was a sex 0.86

01:50:48.280 he would go to Malaysia, he would go to the 0.71

01:50:50.240 Philippines, where'd these guys go?

01:50:52.220 He was a white guy from Vancouver

01:50:54.200 and he was not

01:50:56.400 only caught

01:50:58.340 with child pornography, he was

01:51:00.200 making child pornography himself

01:51:02.100 and he was appearing in the photos

01:51:04.500 and apparently, I didn't know this

01:51:06.020 but i guess it would make sense within that community you're given more street cred if

01:51:11.860 you're in the photos because it's riskier right and so they had him in the photos but he would

01:51:17.260 they couldn't they didn't know who he was why because his face was a swirl right it's like who

01:51:24.200 who is this genius who swirled his face and they were trying for weeks months they had interpol

01:51:30.460 involved they had the well actually you know what's funny is you never hear that the local

01:51:35.320 authorities are involved in this um you know the malaysians act like this is a grievous offense

01:51:41.380 against their culture you didn't care about this until like interpol came looking for him so how 0.99

01:51:47.500 about you shut the fuck up um you're just kind of embarrassed now but anyway the point is that 0.98

01:51:53.360 they're like how is this hacker genius doing this it took them weeks and chasing him around the globe 0.98

01:51:57.920 and uh then someone figured out oh this looks like a photoshop filter so they could take the 0.93

01:52:05.620 the photos put it in photoshop and reverse the swirl because that's all he fucking did

01:52:11.260 right but that's just evidence like that they didn't know this language they didn't know this 0.99

01:52:16.260 photoshop thing they didn't know that this group on the fringes were just using photoshop to fuck 0.84

01:52:21.020 with photos they they just assumed it was like this big complicated thing but you know you have 0.94

01:52:26.440 these the digital natives using a language that these old old-headed people just don't get

01:52:33.400 um and that's a really bad example of course but it's an example it's an example of like how they've

01:52:39.640 they're always playing catch up with what's happening on the outside they're always and

01:52:43.400 like i said um you in the past i've had some dealings with non-profits and even some non-profits

01:52:51.720 who are engaged in anti-extremism measures and if you've seen the internal communications from

01:52:58.520 these people they don't know what's going on out here like their conceptualization of the far right

01:53:05.080 is like the kkk i think the kkk is still like a big thing and they think the christian nationalism

01:53:12.760 movement is like the scariest thing in the world you know i mean like they don't know

01:53:16.840 they don't know the spaces because they're old government bureaucrats who still don't kind of 0.98

01:53:21.640 understand what the internet is they don't speak the fucking language it takes them years to speak 0.98

01:53:27.700 the language it takes them years to understand the tools eventually they do but then you're 0.96

01:53:33.020 outpacing them you're outpacing them so anyway that's just the a more practical relationship of

01:53:37.920 or a practical example of what i think is actually going on anyway um anyway i'll let you go now

01:53:45.220 because we're going over is that is that a good one did i do good with yeah yeah that was cool i

01:53:49.180 like that all right good we'll be talking more about this in the future but i hope i did that

01:53:53.180 book justice anyway i'll talk to you later right now man see it

01:53:57.460 so like how do you think the the so as thomas phrases it the nuremberg

01:54:19.020 regime which is just geniusly put i have this perspective that i think it's gonna um it's gonna

01:54:25.820 move into like this materialistic uh race realism that's like it's truer than what people have now

01:54:33.100 i think people are becoming against their will more racially conscious um specifically white

01:54:39.500 people which hasn't happened in you know 80 plus years and um and it's it's being done in a more

01:54:45.420 intelligent way than just like um like sort of a soft like southern pride type deal um it's become

01:54:53.580 like the locus of kind of the young new right and i'm kind of curious because you do bring it up on

01:55:00.600 your podcast a lot and um i have my criticisms of that point of view even though i do think there's

01:55:07.400 a lot of truth to it do you think that there is like this like we are we are just crashing into

01:55:13.340 this new uh foundational narrative of like the race realist yeah um for the longest time i think

01:55:21.660 there's been a lot of very knowledgeable and highly intelligent people on this thing of ours

01:55:27.000 we might call the dissident right you know in terms of race realism you can go back to jared

01:55:30.780 taylor you can go even go back to like all these great thinkers even ron unz is probably on that

01:55:35.240 side as well but um what's interesting is that for a lot of people on the right broadly especially

01:55:42.300 conservatives the the trend towards racial identitarianism has been noticed by all um but

01:55:49.860 i think the conversation's actually been led by the left for the most part and oftentimes white

01:55:55.920 guys find themselves playing catch-up like it was first permissible to discuss you know like even in

01:56:01.740 canada for example um where i live you know we have in our body of law the idea of like we basically

01:56:09.680 have ethnostates in canada in the form of the aboriginal tribal bands where you can literally

01:56:14.620 do blood tests to figure out if you're aboriginal and then there's been stories of people who've

01:56:20.280 been exiled for race mixing and when it comes to those narratives we've already accepted their

01:56:25.180 belief of blood memory that not only do just racial genetics exist but it can carry this sort

01:56:30.760 of racial spirit with them so but that stuff is allowed and i find that whites especially have

01:56:37.840 have noticed every other group is permitted to talk about this and we oftentimes speaking as a

01:56:44.040 white guy find ourselves adopting their narratives so what the conservatives were doing for a long

01:56:49.380 time and arguably the alt lights if people remember that that would have been you know i'm not trying

01:56:54.000 to throw them under the bus but like the gavin mcginnis types which are like you know this group

01:56:57.940 says they're persecuted and oppressed well everyone's persecuted and oppressed well right

01:57:01.660 there you've accepted the narrative that you want to be persecuted and oppressed to be allowed to

01:57:06.900 play the game long story short i think that white people while they're watching everyone else

01:57:12.940 kind of follow their own ethnic or group-based sovereignty they don't really have the tools

01:57:19.420 to define it for themselves we we and this is something we've talked about a lot recently

01:57:23.580 we actually don't know how to argue for our own self-interest we very frequently will try and

01:57:29.720 find allies from other groups we think will like side with us or we try and adopt their talking

01:57:34.700 points see oh no we're just like them we're just see well why can't we play too and i think our

01:57:40.280 our inability to actually advocate for because we are different psychologically we're different

01:57:45.940 culturally and we the idea of trying to argue that you're oppressed does not come naturally

01:57:51.740 to a lot of people of european stock it just seems kind of in a lot of different ways and so

01:57:57.200 it is true i think there's a a gravity not only is there a swing towards acceptance of

01:58:02.820 identitarianism, and this is correlated with an increasingly multicultural society, consider this,

01:58:09.320 you know, by the time that whites are allowed to play that game and engage in that conversation,

01:58:14.380 it will be when they are a minority, when they have the least amount of sovereignty, and they

01:58:18.380 will be most subject to this new system, at which point, when we're allowed to play the game on

01:58:23.940 their terms, they will have the power to persecute us even more. And then we won't even have the

01:58:29.720 the numbers to advocate for ourselves and that might sound a bit extreme but you're also seeing

01:58:35.320 um one thing that we talked about on the show there's this book by marco poppick called

01:58:40.320 geopolitical alpha it's an economics book and he had he was tracking the uh again another pendulum

01:58:46.240 swing from laissez-faire capitalism that kind of rose from the 70s and 80s under thatcher and

01:58:52.240 whatnot to this wider acceptance of socialist policies so the idea of having like your own

01:59:00.000 sovereign area that's out of fashion and you see this on the right too you see the acceptance of

01:59:05.140 more nationalist and socialist policies there's like we laugh at libertarians we scoff at the

01:59:11.520 free market stuff so it seems that the game being played by everyone going forward is going to be

01:59:17.360 this pushing of sort of collectivist socialist policies. And, you know, not to say that's right

01:59:25.120 or wrong. That's not a value judgment. That just seems to be like if I were betting on what would

01:59:29.800 happen, you know, Tucker Carlson's a good example of that. The rise of Tucker Carlson, he's advocating

01:59:34.340 things for things that were completely alien to the Republican Party, you know, just even five

01:59:40.020 years ago. He's advocating for government intervention, more social assistance and

01:59:44.640 policies so there is but i like i said before i think whites are the last to the party on that

01:59:51.620 and that's why i don't think that that's the whole thing we say about conservatives generally

01:59:56.020 they're like five years too late on everything by the time you know in five years they're finally

02:00:00.760 going to be pushing for transgender acceptance as everyone else is getting out of that like

02:00:05.320 it's just going to be late on everything anyway that's a very meandering answer to your question

02:00:09.780 i i think though uh you're it's the the the white thing i think it you know it falls on

02:00:19.680 deaf ears and then people on the right white guys are like oh yeah see what happens when we try to

02:00:25.460 play the game like they do we get scoffed at that's why you know the white man truly is you

02:00:31.140 know he's he's the lowest rung um in the game right now but um i think it's because um have you

02:00:38.560 read have you read or the short story i know i know but george orwell wrote uh was it killing

02:00:45.320 an elephant shooting an elephant no i haven't read that they're gonna be like there's this

02:00:49.680 little book you might have heard of it 1984 1984 have you heard of that one um uh wow he totally

02:00:56.740 no yeah the point he makes in it is when the white man goes tyrant it's his own freedom he

02:01:01.220 destroys it's really cool it's good it's a good little story about him being an off when he was

02:01:04.560 a military officer in nyanmar and how like he had to go chase down this elephant and when he finally

02:01:10.300 got to it he's like the elephant was fine it wasn't rampaging anymore all they had to go do

02:01:15.560 is get the the the the person who trains it and takes care of it and it would have been fine

02:01:20.120 but he has like you know 5 000 of these brown faces surrounding him and he's like uh well the

02:01:27.640 white man has to put on a show i gotta be their little puppet and uh that's kind of like all the

02:01:33.400 the white man is doing when he when he plays that game um so that's one thing but then the other 0.90

02:01:38.900 thing is just if you keep going this direction this is like my biggest concern with keith woods

02:01:44.680 because i think keith woods is like um there's something about him he's got he's got that glimmer

02:01:51.760 in his eye i just love him and but the thing is is he is just a neoplatonist if you get down to

02:01:57.800 the foundational aspects of these nationalist movements they don't have any they don't have

02:02:04.000 any life to them they look a lot like a black nationalist movement like a black nationalist

02:02:08.940 movement doesn't have a real like western a lot philosophical basis it wants to operate on a lower

02:02:16.880 level it is it wants to operate on that and forget i'm not being racist here just the

02:02:21.660 animalistic racial level and when you when you go on and on onto the level of just race

02:02:27.760 you're leaving out like the entirety of the last 2500 years of um of western philosophy

02:02:37.440 specifically christianity and it's like that's why we won that's why we're great and that's why

02:02:43.020 a multicultural society in some sense can exist because it's built on that but i all i see

02:02:50.380 with the right is like fiddle fucking around with all of these labels and all they can define 0.96

02:02:57.020 themselves on is like yeah democracy isn't real and you know white people are seemingly persecuted 0.99

02:03:05.020 but it's like i i mean i guess it's just what you have to replace it is like a ghost dance to like

02:03:15.420 an era that you think is better um like we were talking about before the show like these

02:03:19.940 millennials well you know so a lot of them will larp is amish like i even went through that phase

02:03:24.260 you know like i went to that phase where like oh we need a return you did a you did a little show

02:03:29.320 on penty lincola cool guy um same with with um chad haig i actually have the book around here

02:03:36.240 but a lot of guys like that um who are focused on like your your your culture is your ecology

02:03:42.360 you can't avoid ecology that's the basis of who you are and if you're a nationalist movement

02:03:47.240 you're like living in this lie that we can like like especially for white america like where is

02:03:53.420 white america there's like obviously whites are like they are a bad guy in some way but for the 0.96

02:04:01.700 most part they lack the the universal distinction as a culture in america that matters to be like 0.98

02:04:09.240 look at us we need to restore order you know you have to have first principles and anytime i see

02:04:15.740 people talking about uh the right wing like how we're going to take things back and it's going

02:04:20.720 to get greater and some way they always forget like christian will always be like a little

02:04:26.020 auxiliary thing like it's one of the many labels they have and it's like all right but when you do

02:04:32.900 win i it's it's it's gonna be like okay okay so what is the white answer if it's not like

02:04:41.120 first christian and like very much so and then like um you know 2500 years of metaphysics like

02:04:51.120 political philosophy and you said this too you and judas it's built on everything else comes

02:04:58.060 before political philosophy everything else becomes before economics but that's where everyone

02:05:02.120 starts rather than metaphysics and i just don't know where where does that come in at this point

02:05:07.660 that's my credit that's my long-winded criticism of of this like no yeah of the wignet thing

02:05:15.740 that's that's a fair point i'm not like grr it's just i don't see fruit with it yeah i'll start by

02:05:21.840 saying that a lot of these groups we have more common than we have in difference um and it's

02:05:27.920 pretty frequent that on the distant right i use distant right very very broadly um but we'll agree

02:05:33.760 on most things but it's we start wars over the couple disagreements and there's some serious

02:05:38.360 disagreements and i've been vocal about certain creators that i vehemently disagree with or even

02:05:43.440 think their ideas are subversive and dangerous have taken to their extreme but a lot of people

02:05:48.920 you know one thing that we discussed uh frequently on the show is how revolutions actually uh how

02:05:55.720 they behave um especially the american revolution i think we're discussing the book the square and

02:06:00.100 the tower. And there's this myth that any large social change or any huge movement needs to be

02:06:07.480 homogenous, when in fact, it's usually like five to seven smaller groups that don't even

02:06:12.660 particularly like each other and disagree on a lot of points. But they are given this one momentum

02:06:18.420 through a few key individuals who can kind of unite them to take down an opponent or an enemy.

02:06:23.780 That's usually how it happens. So I think I'm not trying to just point to Trump when I say this,

02:06:30.100 But because the election of Trump still weighs heavy on the minds of a lot of people on the right.

02:06:34.740 Because that's the last time we seem to have done something cool that shouldn't have happened.

02:06:39.180 There's like that. The Trump election wasn't supposed to happen.

02:06:41.500 And it did because of a lot of these groups working in concert for like the first time in a long time.

02:06:46.960 But things like that are possible within systems.

02:06:51.140 And they're short lived, but they're supposed to be short lived as long as you have like one shared enemy or one shared goal.

02:06:58.460 I think the ligaments and the tissue between a lot of these groups right now who disagree, because I'm very open that I think, at least in the short to midterm, pagans, Christians of various denominations, the Christian denominations already don't like each other a lot of the time, they can find a lot of commonality in simply just survival at this point.

02:07:21.820 And I think an interesting phenomenon that I've seen in the news is even the liberals are starting, we call them the libs around here, but the libs are starting to notice. The problem is when the libs notice something, it's almost too late. Like you're seeing liberals complain about things that we were complaining about five years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, because it's just become that ignorable.

02:07:41.760 So we're not crazy. These things are happening, obviously. But I think that means that we more people than I think people give credit for are on the same page about these things. It's just what we do about it. Do we work within the system? You know, how do you stop mass migration? And that's kind of what we're debating right now.

02:08:00.120 And I don't think most debates on the distant right are cause for alarm because I think we're we're trying to take a pretty big bite out of existence right now.

02:08:09.880 There's a lot of very interesting debates happening, especially within Christianity.

02:08:14.620 Look, I've had guys like Ryan Turnipseed on who can give us insight into what's going on in the Lutheran church right now.

02:08:21.000 Yeah. In every area, there's some really big swings being taken on the topic of ethnogenesis.

02:08:27.960 just to circle back to your first point like how do on one hand we understand that white people

02:08:33.780 only seem to be the ones on the earth that don't know what white people means so i i would say to

02:08:39.560 you know a lot of people like what even is white and we're an italian i'm like well you have a

02:08:43.400 general sense and there are gradations there but i'm like if you take an uh an irish guy and a

02:08:48.860 french guy and put them in a bar in the sudan you're both the white guys at that bar everyone

02:08:54.520 there knows it asian people know what white guy is so at that level we need to understand that

02:09:00.480 this is the game being played and you don't get to opt out of that game even if you don't and this

02:09:04.960 is kind of where conservatives go i don't even believe in white people well the world does

02:09:08.300 so what are you going to do about that so and we can have debates about who falls in that category

02:09:14.480 but that doesn't interest me as much other than we all kind of know that there's a core you know 0.94

02:09:20.720 maybe like anglos and scandinavians are at the center that's the big debate who gives a shit but 0.98

02:09:25.080 this and that's where we spend all of our time like no no let's just figure out that white people 0.98

02:09:29.660 exist and that certain groups think you either simultaneously don't exist and then also should

02:09:35.500 be destroyed so it's a survival thing right now and i don't and i think the fact that liberals

02:09:40.240 seem to understand that's a survival thing means that we're not crazy we're not wasting our time

02:09:46.700 talking about this but we need to figure out like here's the problem i run into and i think a lot of

02:09:51.560 white white guys who don't even they would rather not count themselves as far right i said this all

02:09:56.080 the time i don't want to be doing this in a society that made any sense i'd be a wandering 0.99

02:10:01.360 poet and i will be broke as shit i shouldn't be making a podcast i should be no one should be 0.76

02:10:07.160 listening to me but the fact that most of us have to care about this means that they are aware that 0.98

02:10:14.460 even if they don't want to be on this side politically they understand that you know when

02:10:18.760 you talk about things like this half of all white people disagree with you so even like this is kind

02:10:24.560 of what you were getting to like oh even just using white as an identifier well most of the

02:10:30.180 people trying to persecute you right now are like white liberals or if you've ever encountered this

02:10:34.320 with your family right you know your family disowns you because of these beliefs that's a hard

02:10:39.000 pill to swallow i don't that and that's not easy to talk about unless you've gone through that it's

02:10:44.440 life-destroying so i'm trying you have to reconcile it okay and the guys who i'm most 0.90

02:10:49.580 interested in are the ones going to the drafting table and saying okay what the fuck are we doing

02:10:54.440 in a 21st century sense and you sort of touched on a big issue that i think we have on the right

02:11:00.440 which is we keep using 20th century language 20th century models we keep looking back to the

02:11:05.280 revolutions of the 20th century you know there's still guys talking about the work the working

02:11:09.640 class of the world workers the world united like that doesn't that is not evocative to a 21st

02:11:15.520 century mind just like old identities might need to be reframed in 21st century like the the things

02:11:22.960 that went without saying in 1950s america don't go without saying anymore and people are unmoored

02:11:28.520 and lost so to even talk to another quote-unquote white person on these grounds like you need to

02:11:34.700 frame things differently for them. And so, and though the people I'm most interested in are the

02:11:40.020 ones trying to have that conversation and, and first of all, trying to say you're allowed to

02:11:46.540 act within your self-interest, but then what even are your self-interests? A lot of people don't

02:11:51.700 know. And that's where a lot of the fights and confusion come from. So we are on the distant

02:11:56.160 right. A lot of us, the reason it seems so chaotic over here is because we're, we've drilled right

02:12:00.760 down to the bedrock on a lot of these issues and have had to rethink everything especially

02:12:05.080 generationally i'm sure we'll get to this in a second but a lot of young guys the guys i'll use

02:12:11.400 myself as an example you know me you know i'm the first guy in my entire like five generations not

02:12:17.940 not five let's say four generations that's owned a gun they're not they're not gun people i like

02:12:23.540 guns you know um we're we're the ones who actually want to do the the trad thing and let's have like

02:12:29.100 a multi-generational house but no one in my family has done that point being that there's a lot of

02:12:34.200 young men who want to grab onto that sort of sovereignty but they're the first ones in their

02:12:39.240 entire family that have ever thought like this so they need to come up with a new schematic on how

02:12:44.120 to do it some guys i know a few guys um you know there's a guy i like by the name of black horse

02:12:48.600 you probably know him like he's got uh land in his family and whatnot he'll talk about that a lot 0.92

02:12:53.880 but a lot of people they don't have any fucking land you know i come from a family of bureaucrats 0.98

02:12:58.360 and shit like white collar people the fact that i'm trying to like i want to build a house i i 0.99

02:13:03.700 have to find those tools myself and so do a lot of young people so it's a lot of pressure put on 0.99

02:13:10.040 individuals who don't even really have a social network yet or we're trying to figure that out so

02:13:15.040 that's why i i empathize with people who are like even going down this road it's it's hella it's a 0.68

02:13:21.040 huge fucking i'm too dumb for this but uh emergence and imminence i have a good friend um 0.69

02:13:29.560 who's way smarter than me who explained it and i was just whoa but uh i i think like um you know 0.97

02:13:36.940 autists um common thing with with white dr uh again i use that i use that term as well broadly

02:13:46.140 and i don't try to define it but um their their issue is is like um well where do we start how do

02:13:54.880 we do it what happens blah blah blah blah blah um but it's like it's already happened um so like

02:14:01.200 for me i bought a 23 and i honestly like i'm i'm an impulsive person um and i i'm

02:14:08.980 uh especially over time i become more risk uh savvy i'm fine with taking risks and um i bought

02:14:18.340 you know a few acres with a house and a trailer on it um and uh i've like developed in a year

02:14:24.860 a really solid group of friends um in the catholic and orthodox community here um and it's like i

02:14:33.080 wouldn't have done that if i didn't feel like um like like well one nobody else is doing that

02:14:40.120 and two um i it's like uh uh i i don't know what the fuck am i i'm gonna do if i don't have that

02:14:47.060 in the first place because like like you said about yourself i i should be like i don't know

02:14:54.580 i i should be like a school teacher or something like i i i'm a i'm not

02:15:01.140 a very well organized get shit done person but i just don't see people doing it so it's like okay 0.94

02:15:08.060 fuck i'll i'll try something and even then it's like dude i don't know where to start 0.97

02:15:12.300 you guys like me we're supposed to be a guidebook sorry yeah no guys like me we're supposed to be 0.99

02:15:17.820 like wandering tech samurais you know like a samurai but like you know a cyber samurai type

02:15:24.080 guy that's what i should be in the world that made any fucking sense yes um um do you think

02:15:33.020 canada is like well are any other thoughts about that oh yeah it's like uh there's there is a lot 0.90

02:15:40.420 of shit happening i spec i specifically see i guess i'm more um and i'm trying more so to be

02:15:46.600 in tune with like what what are the catholics doing as a catholic but uh like catholics are 0.98

02:15:51.600 doing um i'm not a that's the that's the thing i'm least bearish on um even even though i get

02:15:59.140 told by trabs that i should be but um i uh there's like catholic distributist communities

02:16:05.960 that aren't like bullshit that are propping up and at first it's going to fail i think in a way

02:16:10.760 because there's a lot of rich people who are in it and it's like you can't just like rich people 0.89

02:16:15.480 just can't be all the catholic institutions just can't be like the rich hoity-toity people who 0.77

02:16:20.520 don't know how to turn a wrench on shit um but it's happening uh people are moving based on like

02:16:27.020 i want to be at a traditional at mass type stuff and it's like that's cool um i had friend i have 0.98

02:16:32.720 a couple who recently married um they're younger than me i'm 24 and they they moved here because

02:16:39.600 they're like you know why not let's do it you know they had the they don't want to get the hell

02:16:43.320 out of the city they were in it's like among young people it's just like we we're uh we just know 0.74

02:16:49.700 we're fucked um if we don't even try something and if we try and fail it's like well cool whatever 0.92

02:16:54.180 um no i agree and this is the age when you should be doing this because i am an old head i'm in my 0.99

02:17:01.120 30s and once you get to your 30s you start you know when i was in my 20s i could just sleep on

02:17:06.480 a floor you know i bet you could right now go sleep on a floor if you wanted to now unless i'm 0.99

02:17:13.740 i've silk pillowcases i want to blow my fucking brains out it'll happen to you by the way yeah 0.99

02:17:19.220 yeah yeah 20s is when you should try stuff because um and that sound too morbid but 0.98

02:17:26.480 um i've always did this when i was younger too thinking about when i get older when i'm unable

02:17:31.360 to do things um it's stuff like this that you're gonna look back on and be happy that you did

02:17:37.620 and you're like it might seem frivolous now but no seriously you're gonna love that you did this

02:17:43.360 when you're 65 even if it failed yeah um i i uh i'm curious about canada but with something that

02:17:51.680 came to mind that i think is like the thing is beyond all the issues in the world it's like oh

02:17:58.920 is world war iii gonna break out uh what's going to happen with this geopolitical problem what's

02:18:03.960 going to happen with this uh domestic political problem immigration drugs crime cities falling 0.96

02:18:09.700 apart infrastructure tech there's all kinds of shit what's going to happen i think everything 0.98

02:18:15.720 sits upon um one issue and everything ties back to like god but uh that's like we can kind of get 0.75

02:18:26.780 that the the thing that's we see well kind of don't see that everything runs on that is the

02:18:33.880 cause of everything is usury um everything runs on usury every the degenerate lifestyle that we 0.89

02:18:40.560 have um the way the reason cities are shitty the reason government is corrupt is like this giant

02:18:47.400 machine of of interest bearing financial instruments it's like that's how people have

02:18:54.620 their retirement that's what everything's tied to and i think when that when that when the chickens

02:19:01.180 have to come home to roost because the only way usury can be maintained is through perpetual

02:19:08.480 gdp um increase we've already reached like diminishing returns on it um lacy hunts has

02:19:15.520 done great research on that um with a marginal revenue product of debt which he basically says

02:19:21.320 like debt does not create value anymore it just doesn't um yeah and in our economy really seems

02:19:28.140 to start it's it seems to be reflecting more of like a medieval economy where you have your

02:19:34.480 you have you already have your serfs and you have your lords and it's just horrible it's like the

02:19:40.740 shitty version of that and um it's it's like okay well as this is like in this week i've seen like

02:19:48.880 three videos of young women who are realizing that they shouldn't have gone to college and 0.98

02:19:52.860 everyone's like shitting on them and i'm like what is your problem women shouldn't be thinking about 0.57

02:19:57.640 this like it's not their fault you did we did this to them they have debt now and it's like it 0.99

02:20:03.680 should be we should get rid of it like everything should kind of be set to like well do what we

02:20:11.160 always did you believe but we don't it's like this forever like degrading down via usury and i think

02:20:17.740 that when that finally ends which i think will be in two places which is like medical debt which is

02:20:23.340 people aren't already paying which again is going to be a zoomer millennial thing where you're 0.97

02:20:27.640 It's only these old morons who subscribe to, like, libertarian economics 0.98

02:20:32.300 who are like, oh, you need to pay, like, I'm not paying for your college. 1.00

02:20:37.920 I'm not paying for this. I'm not paying for that.

02:20:39.220 It's like, you live in a fucking society, dude. 1.00

02:20:41.540 Like, if you want shit to work properly, you pay your fucking fair share. 1.00

02:20:46.040 Like, you do your part. That's why we're here. 0.99

02:20:48.120 That's what a society is.

02:20:49.220 And, like, there's this, the worst thing about the Republicans, 1.00

02:20:52.100 the worst thing about conservatives is, like, this I'm-my-own-man type of shit. 1.00

02:20:55.940 And that's why everything really is shitty. 0.99

02:20:57.640 that that is the worst thing i i don't libs are second i think to that problem because that that 0.89

02:21:04.060 that is where uh white people where conservative america what have they done for 70 years they run 0.99

02:21:12.000 the fuck away they run away from every problem and then they and then they sit around and say 1.00

02:21:17.320 oh well you're not going to come for me it's like fuck you idiot the the cities are gone because 1.00

02:21:23.040 you left them you moron like yeah and there's a lot of the puritans ran west and all the italians 1.00

02:21:28.660 and irish took over their cities you know and now it's happening with uh indians taking over 1.00

02:21:34.060 their corporations and hiring other indians and running things like shit it's like you have to 0.99

02:21:38.780 realize that you have skin in the game and shit needs to work properly and it's it's there's gonna 0.99

02:21:46.060 we're gonna have to abandon this like i'm my own man libertarian shit which by the way um 0.98

02:21:52.580 just check like the early life on every single libertarian economist going back to mises just 0.97

02:21:59.840 look at their early life just look at it let's go to what school did they go to that's what you mean

02:22:05.040 right i know i'm just i'm just joking i'm being a little silly goose but um uh there's a lot to

02:22:13.660 unpack there and i noticed one comment here from um new gloff makes a good point and i don't want

02:22:19.380 to be misinterpreted as saying that i'm advocating for people decoupling from society or that people

02:22:25.400 who buy land should do it in the interest of doing exactly what you were saying which is like

02:22:30.460 i'm going to flee um and really the line that we come back to and a lot of people especially now

02:22:35.300 have figured this out it's that they say for a long time they're saying i just want to be left

02:22:39.460 alone well you'll never be left alone that is not an option um and that used to be a bit more

02:22:44.940 popular especially with the ted kaczynski crowd who you know as a man you know i speak as a man

02:22:50.380 a white guy deep down we only have two wishes most of us one is to own a boat and two is to

02:22:58.240 live alone in the woods with a dog like that's just you know that's the dream but at the end of

02:23:03.940 the day we understand that and i think this is the talking point broadly on the right right now

02:23:09.300 it's about creating parallel communities it's about creating little even there's more people

02:23:14.440 talking about settling in towns and creating some kind of sovereign state even on a small level

02:23:20.720 i think that's where people are that's where their minds are at right now which is correct

02:23:24.760 um but i'm trying you mentioned a lot there i'm trying i think i lost my train of thought

02:23:30.660 um what were you talking about you said uh like uh libertarians

02:23:35.440 i guess i was really the locus of it uh out of the ramble is just like usury is your problem

02:23:44.720 oh yeah okay yeah that's a big one i don't know i got i know so on our show recently we had an arc 0.98

02:23:52.620 on modern uh modern modern mmt modern monetary theory which sorry i think i know that fucker

02:24:00.060 i don't like him well it's it was kind of not pioneered but his biggest advocate would be

02:24:05.940 war mosler and uh there's a one there's kind of like a debate between myself and my co-host judas

02:24:11.560 um for the record i'm not pro mmt it was more saying this is how society seems to be functioning

02:24:18.580 right now there's also a guy named richard duncan wrote a book called money revolution

02:24:22.440 basically it's describing what people already have into it even if they're not into economics

02:24:27.640 which is that money is effectively fake. And COVID really proved this, that they created

02:24:36.240 something to the tune of $3.8, $3.9 trillion in just influx of capital into the economy.

02:24:44.200 Without a vote, they did it within a week. An insane amount of money flooded into giving to

02:24:50.080 businesses, giving individuals, just blown all over the place. And the argument of the book is

02:24:55.320 that, well, we are in a paradigm right now. And this started with the decoupling of money from

02:25:01.300 the gold standard and the creation of what we've described as fiat currency. The idea that everything

02:25:07.420 is controlled by the Federal Reserve. And so there's this idea, and just to bring this back

02:25:13.700 to the libertarian, the libertarian is usually an old white guy who is trying to articulate

02:25:19.040 something he's not allowed to articulate by saying, I don't want to give money to all these 0.97

02:25:23.740 lazy people what they really want to say is brown people what they want to say is black people they 0.94

02:25:29.000 can't and so they try and craft an ideology around that that no one should be forced to do anything 0.98

02:25:34.140 for anyone what they really want to say is i don't want it to go to like lay these these types of

02:25:39.120 people that i see every day but i'm not allowed to talk about it but at but you had said that you

02:25:44.860 live in a society you live in this advanced society where you pay taxes but here's the thing

02:25:49.920 within modern monetary theory. The interesting thing is that taxes don't actually pay for

02:25:55.600 anything. Not really. Money is just created by the Fed and it's altered electronically.

02:26:03.040 Taxes, and this is where libertarians are actually correct in this model, taxes are literally just a

02:26:07.660 way to control consumer spending. You increase taxes when you want people to spend less on

02:26:12.460 something or to increase productivity, or you lower it when you want them to do something.

02:26:16.220 It's not like I need the money from the people to pay for this. They can pay for whatever the fuck they want. 0.98

02:26:21.280 Now, here's the funny thing that the people like AOC and the Democrats will say that and say, oh, we can give infinite money and reparations to black people. 0.99

02:26:29.920 Within MMT, what they say is that it's usually done through credit. The Fed creates credit.

02:26:35.400 They don't create dollars. They create credit. Credit goes to the banks. Banks give it out in loans.

02:26:39.820 So the idea is that, you know, as long as the capital is allocated to productive resources like companies or certain sectors and the sectors that they I'm giving a big MMT summary here, but he said we could keep doing this forever.

02:26:54.540 If we put all if we open the spigots, the credit spigots over quantum computing, renewable energy, AI, there's a few others like rare materials, space, stuff like that.

02:27:06.960 a lot of the stuff here talked about right now they're like well we could grow forever and there's

02:27:12.080 this um manifesto that was released recently called the techno optimist manifesto written by

02:27:18.260 mark anderson advocating for this here's what they won't tell you though um they will say

02:27:23.960 growth infinite growth is possible in a sense but what it's more accurate to say infinite growth is

02:27:30.520 required because within nmt you must keep growing the gdp by something to the tune of 2.5 percent

02:27:37.740 a year otherwise everything blows the fuck up and everyone dies like the system needs to keep

02:27:43.500 growing it's not like you can keep growing it must keep growing otherwise you get what happened in

02:27:47.920 2008 the moment it starts to shake the entire thing collapses so that's where i think the

02:27:52.820 techno optimists are a bit too optimistic point being that within modern monetary theory what

02:27:59.720 i'm saying is that is kind of how it works right now and the problem is and it's like hyper hyper

02:28:04.960 charge usury to go back to your main point this is usually taken to its fucking extreme that not

02:28:10.680 only do you need to borrow money to do anything in society society only exists if you borrow money

02:28:17.120 and super and dump it into the banks and loans upon loans upon loans so you in this model it

02:28:23.420 you can't even remove yourself from the system that's the unfortunate part and the problem is

02:28:28.600 that you know even the people who believe in modern monetary even if you're skeptical about it

02:28:32.800 it kind of has to collapse it's like because i don't know where you start pulling the thread

02:28:37.740 to unwork it same thing with usury like at this point unless you're living in something like an

02:28:44.140 amish community it's like i don't even know how you rebel against usury it's almost like this is

02:28:49.780 where the accelerationism comes from this is why there's so many accelerationists on our side which

02:28:54.080 is like you know what crank the gas until this thing blows up you know and that's that's the

02:29:01.160 ultimate black-pilled ideology but you know once you start investigating this stuff you're like

02:29:06.040 damn well where would i even start to rebel against this it kind of has to just blow up i guess but

02:29:13.000 that that's going to be ugly that's going to be like you know the great depression times 50 people 0.99

02:29:19.620 little and people don't really know what a desperate people do like yeah like selling your

02:29:24.560 kids for prostitution and then meet that's where that goes you know like imagine yes just consider

02:29:30.540 the dystopia that will befall humanity if everything collapses like that but anyway not

02:29:34.920 to lead down a too dark a path but that's kind of i hope that that refers to anything you said

02:29:41.660 i kind of went oh no no it does and i have a lot to go off there um because i have an alternative

02:29:45.500 perspective um uh maybe an alternative hypothesis um the uh yeah uh do you know um he's one of my

02:29:55.900 favorite he's probably my favorite person in the tribe um jeff snyder maybe you come across him

02:30:00.660 he's a he's known for the euro dollar university and i've i've talked about a lot because i i he

02:30:06.940 has a perspective that no one holds and i think he's like a chicago school ish type guy um but

02:30:15.200 he uh i used to i kind of like what like 2020 2021 i was going down like from 2019 to like

02:30:23.760 about when i started doing the oros post thing i was like going down a money

02:30:29.760 economics rabbit hole like i was just obsessed and um i started out like gold is real money

02:30:40.320 And we're going to have hyperinflation. But then Jeff Snyder and a couple other people, forgetting their names because it's been a minute, have Santiago Capital.

02:30:55.120 I forget the guy's name, but that's another one. The Brent Johnson.

02:31:02.420 Their point of view is the Fed actually doesn't do anything. It's the complete opposite.

02:31:10.320 And I agree with this because the mechanics in which way money works is not it's not really the Federal Reserve.

02:31:18.260 So the reason 2008 happened was not specifically like, oh, bad debt.

02:31:23.800 It's because the financial system was built on collateralized loans that were unsecuritized.

02:31:33.700 um and uh you know we loaned out you know we loaned out to a bunch of people who couldn't

02:31:40.680 pay their debt and you stack that up with debt that's good and you say oh yeah this is a good

02:31:45.780 collateralized what do they call it package you know the uh mortgage-backed securities um

02:31:52.060 and it's like no you can't treat that like a bond but we did that for like 35 years we all around

02:31:57.960 the world um money or or the way the financial system worked was banks all all of all of like

02:32:07.400 people's retirement funds kind of hinged upon these mortgage-backed securities so it's like

02:32:12.380 debt paying the same debt pays for people to retire it pays um rich people uh you know a

02:32:20.880 couple more percentage points than bonds and then it all broke down and over a weekend you lose bear

02:32:27.220 stearns and lehman brothers all because they were on they weren't in the the the seats during the

02:32:33.280 game of magical or uh musical chairs um the thing is though money is not created by the fed they can

02:32:39.900 do it it seems obviously they can just loan it out and or uh literally grant it out um the reason

02:32:46.280 the economy is broken and this is jeff snyder's theory which i pretty much hold to i think he's

02:32:54.360 right is that um banks don't want to loan because they saw what happened with mortgage-backed

02:33:01.920 securities so asset-backed securities in general are seen as like well i know the fed ever since

02:33:08.040 its inception has failed at being the fed they always fuck up so many banks fell apart so many

02:33:13.560 people lost their homes because the fed just didn't want to go full socialist and bail everybody out

02:33:18.160 um so what ends up happening is because there's like this i'm afraid to loan and the keynesian 0.86

02:33:26.400 economics shit doesn't work um because uh it the reserve requirement ratio which bank which it's

02:33:35.980 like you you just talked about this like they give them credit no they really don't um banks 0.98

02:33:41.840 can create bank deposits based on nothing that's just how it is i mean there's regulation but it's

02:33:47.080 kind of like they can just loan they have a thing called uh central bank reserves that they loan off

02:33:51.760 of but they don't need those they need bonds because they don't trust anything else bonds

02:33:55.680 can only go bad if the american government if the u.s government collapses which it's like if that

02:34:00.160 happens the world every other government can collapse not the u.s because we have gold and

02:34:06.780 not gold gold but the gold is the bonds the treasuries um there's no way that those can

02:34:13.020 collapse and so all banks all every single economy in the world except china and america

02:34:18.700 have been doing horribly ever since 2008 you look at any gdp chart you look at how people are doing 0.93

02:34:24.500 in any european nation any asian nation except like maybe vietnam china look at fucking japan 0.99

02:34:32.140 back from early 90s to now it's all shit it's all horrible and no one can no one can buy houses 1.00

02:34:38.080 No one has kids. Everyone's financially fucked. So what happens now that debt isn't creating value? Well, the Federal Reserve kind of has to become the bank, which is like Hamiltonian type shit. And I just don't know how that operates. I don't even know if that's good or bad. 1.00

02:34:56.760 but i think that would is going to happen in the event where it's just so bad that it's like

02:35:03.700 screwed but this is where the turbo america thing start to make sense because i don't think the u.s

02:35:09.900 can really collapse like it can it can the u.s government can live on for so long and function 0.52

02:35:18.560 in a lot of ways and you can have basically an entire mexican ethno state within its borders

02:35:24.200 and it still functions yeah varies but like which is what you're seeing right now yeah yeah i live

02:35:30.520 i it's i basically live in it and it's um i don't have issues with it yeah a lot of people on our

02:35:35.060 side don't want this is something i know a lot of people don't care for peter zaihan for a lot of

02:35:40.320 very good reasons especially based on what he's saying recently but he published a book called

02:35:44.820 disunited nations many years ago that touches on a lot of predictions about uh what what could

02:35:51.400 happen and he makes a point essentially what you're saying which is that like people need to

02:35:55.680 really wrap their minds around how insanely huge and important america is and that america could

02:36:02.720 withdraw a lot of its holdings globally and be fine and in fact what you might see in that

02:36:09.600 instance and i'm not trying to make any predictions here but you are starting to see when they talk

02:36:13.880 about on-shoring or reshoring or friend-shoring bringing industries back well they're mostly

02:36:18.540 bringing them back to Mexico. So we're brokering a more aggressively friendly policy with Mexico

02:36:23.900 and with Canada. There's a, you know, I won't get it from the predictions. There's a reality in the

02:36:29.740 near future where Canada literally does just become a vassal state of the U.S. objectively

02:36:33.780 because each province has a stronger trade relationship south of the border than it does

02:36:40.120 between each other. I won't get into that. But you could actually see a United States of the

02:36:46.440 americas with more aggressive relationships uh broken with south america as well and then there's 0.99

02:36:52.560 just this these entire this entire hemisphere is now just united and fuck the rest like you could 0.94

02:36:58.740 see that and america america is such a lead on everyone militarily it's not even funny and 0.97

02:37:04.360 everyone knows it and all the posturing is what it is posturing but even like china doesn't make

02:37:10.640 sense without america as a sink for its manufactured goods like i don't want to get

02:37:16.980 off on a whole you know trade thing no you can yeah but like i just i i i will increase the

02:37:25.420 likelihood of me just misspeaking as well because i'm trying to like we talked about this along the

02:37:30.700 show and i don't want to give the wrong number or something and i might i'll speak if i'd speak

02:37:35.680 it'll be in very broad strokes. And China knows this, that it's this idea of, and this is going

02:37:42.160 to get me in trouble, but the idea of sort of like a multipolar answer to America doesn't really hold

02:37:47.360 a lot of water to me, just strictly economics. And this is something that, again, just to refer

02:37:53.480 to Marco Popic, we can talk ideology all we want. We can talk about history, but there's certain

02:37:58.540 material constraints that every revolutionary or ideologue bumps up against. And the fact is that

02:38:03.960 the material constraints of china means that it fucking collapses if it doesn't have the u.s 0.93

02:38:08.920 market and it knows it and it needs to figure out what it's going to do about that and that 0.92

02:38:13.060 doesn't get talked about because half of our side is saying i hope china runs the world 0.81

02:38:17.940 first of all you fucking don't actually second of all it won't um you want to talk imperialism 0.92

02:38:25.000 like and i won't that's they they they are like their their strategy to take over the world 0.99

02:38:30.800 is to backstab everybody and everybody fucking knows it yeah like like everyone knows even china 0.98

02:38:37.840 knows chinese people aren't cool china's not cool at least america's still kind of cool at 0.99

02:38:42.340 least america was there's no chinese cowboy who wants to be china yeah it's like ask your chat 0.99

02:38:50.080 you won't be fucking chinese dude they have they have you it's like they have dog restaurants these 0.98

02:38:56.420 people like watch like children get run over by a box truck and then the box truck will back on it 0.99

02:39:03.200 to make their make sure they're dead people walk by it and they're like okay like that's judas

02:39:07.520 lived in hong kong for 10 years so he's the first guy i go to because everyone's like oh what do i

02:39:14.500 believe the story coming out where he's like no no i'll tell you what stories are real i've been

02:39:18.480 to mainland china here's what fucking happened and it's worse than you could imagine yeah and

02:39:23.520 then you know he's also like a lot there's a lot of stories on the right about how good 0.97

02:39:28.460 north korea secretly is because you know america just lies and he's like no like i've known

02:39:33.940 people from north korea they end up in china and they're not like american agents they'll it's like

02:39:40.140 a feudal state in most of it right now it's not good it's it's very possible for these areas to

02:39:46.600 actually be bad on their own without american materialist imperialist yeah lies you know 0.96

02:39:52.940 like china is not it's just not a place you want to fucking live yeah and and it's and it's like 0.97

02:40:01.320 they have a different conception of human life they have a different conceptualization of 0.96

02:40:04.960 honor of honoring your word like right down to how you or i would interact with another person

02:40:12.340 is completely alien and if you've ever done business with eastern companies you'll know this 0.72

02:40:17.260 like you need to hire someone from there to be like uh can you just make sure they don't rape me

02:40:21.560 they don't they don't just send me a fake product just because they think it's funny to lie you know

02:40:28.120 to a business anyway yes um yeah uh i think i ran out of steam on that um well okay um

02:40:39.940 yeah i don't know where to go i think that's that's that was a good talk on on like really

02:40:45.160 just um the ran is the world is ran on usury and it's just uh america is the the machine that keeps

02:40:53.520 it going um i don't uh i think the reaction that's already happening is is like materializing um

02:41:00.820 generation by generation slowly yeah oh and let me just say before i forget uh and this just to

02:41:05.800 cycle back to what we were talking about before, I always try and keep in view, what are we telling

02:41:10.300 people to do? So what we just described about Turbo America, the way international trade works

02:41:18.080 and is reliant on America, we talked about accelerationism. It's like, okay, but what do

02:41:21.780 you tell the young person like yourself who wants it? Like, do I buy land? What do I do?

02:41:27.300 So I really do think the answer is something akin to what you're doing, which is building

02:41:32.020 these parallel networks and societies and that does not mean just you know be amish that does

02:41:38.320 not necessarily mean like let's just go start a bunch of farms it's like a loser mentality right

02:41:43.400 there yeah all the stuff we talk you know a lot of the debates we get into on the right is because

02:41:47.920 we actually don't just have a goal or a momentum not everyone and we are getting there uh but a

02:41:52.800 lot of us we just don't know what to do um but we need like a project or an action plan and once

02:41:57.680 you have that you can actually start a lot of these little petty grievances sort of fall away

02:42:02.720 so you know when i say create a parallel system or society that's kind of what people are doing

02:42:07.200 right now you probably have an affinity network of a few different people um and that's actually

02:42:12.920 you know what i recommend young guys do yeah young men for like the zoomers and the gen alphas

02:42:18.660 um and this will sound like an old man thing to say but this is kind of how i did it you know i

02:42:24.480 didn't really get aggressively into this sort of politics until i was you know in my late 20s early

02:42:31.480 30s i spent my 20s trying to gain experience finding a group a crew of guys the best friends

02:42:39.660 that you can trust and rely on some guys do that through the military some guys do that through

02:42:44.380 work some guys just do it with their friends i think that's more essential to surviving long

02:42:49.700 term than like going online as a young guy and trying to find a revolution to join i think if

02:42:55.360 you're a guy and you could find like a group of people that you can rely on like five to seven

02:43:00.520 guys and you can find them online as long as you're like really really close you can kind of

02:43:05.100 do anything you can build a house you can fucking you can take over a fort you can do anything with

02:43:11.060 five to seven guys in my opinion that sounds like a glib statement but it's true and i think there's 0.79

02:43:15.860 A lot of young guys who are just shopping around for the revolutionary struggle to join.

02:43:21.620 And that's what gets them into trouble.

02:43:23.280 And that's what has guys joining personality cults.

02:43:26.420 So what I say is, like, you know, if you can get that grounding, if you can get some experience, build some skills, irrespective of whatever the political struggle is, you will have a better chance of building this sort of self-sustaining life.

02:43:41.040 And then you can group up with other guys and start to say, maybe we start some businesses, maybe.

02:43:46.740 And a lot of these projects are already being done right now.

02:43:49.060 Like on our side, there's a lot of like hush, hush, secret stuff about support networks.

02:43:53.720 Homeschooling networks are a great example of this done every single day.

02:43:58.540 There's blown up everywhere.

02:44:00.000 Yeah.

02:44:00.320 Yeah.

02:44:00.660 This stuff is possible if you approach it realistically and if you have a good head on your shoulders and don't just.

02:44:07.600 and you'll find it's easier to not become so black billed as we call it or depressed um so

02:44:13.900 that is just to say there is hope for people i believe in this as long as you you start thinking

02:44:19.700 practically you know one example i'm just going to give an example my wife was telling me today

02:44:23.880 um they and i don't know if this is true but my wife did tell me this so i believe it um that the

02:44:30.400 government of canada just approved something to the tune of a three billion dollar uh grant

02:44:37.180 payments uh scheme to just give aboriginal people like forty thousand dollars each um in the interest

02:44:44.120 of putting to bed all this the kids were supposed to have died in the residential schools here in 1.00

02:44:50.160 canada of which none were found none none were fucking bullshit it was literally all bullshit 0.99

02:44:56.080 but then still they're getting $40,000 on top of the money they already get because they already 1.00

02:45:01.260 get a lot of free money not all of them but a lot of these different tribal bands just get

02:45:04.600 payments um so then you know she's dejected she's like that's crazy that's crazy my mind's

02:45:11.120 thinking yes it is crazy okay but that's what the conservatives will say it's crazy that shouldn't

02:45:15.160 be allowed but what do we do okay what do we do about it because we have to assume nothing is

02:45:19.700 going to happen i'm like well hmm what we would need to do to solve this to stop the wheels

02:45:25.780 turning would be creating some kind of advocacy group of like three to five people i'm using this

02:45:32.600 the model of the canada anti-hate network the canada anti-hate network is like our version of

02:45:37.660 the splc and it's like three guys in a shared office somewhere but they can get the ear of any

02:45:44.600 media organization in the country and gin up whatever false narrative they have i'm like you

02:45:49.780 know like you would act to fix this you would need three to five dedicated people with funding

02:45:55.760 with financing sitting in a room emailing picking up the phone and basically trying to shove the 0.65

02:46:01.640 story out there that these aboriginal groups are corrupt liars that is what you would need now that

02:46:06.860 sounds like a lot of work i'm like but at least that's a goal and that's you know the other hand

02:46:12.180 is like, well, I don't like $40 billion going to these people. Well, I guess then society should

02:46:17.840 just collapse. I'm like, okay, well, before we pick accelerationism, are there any projects that

02:46:23.980 perhaps in the short term could address things like that? And it's not going to be one project

02:46:29.260 that solves everything. That's the other thing. Everyone's looking for one leader, one party,

02:46:34.420 one project that can fix modernity. You're going to need 45 separate projects, but, and each one

02:46:41.140 of those is going to be a different thing like the whole transgender problem that's its own thing

02:46:45.460 and then there's like the abortion problem that's another thing like all of these there's not one

02:46:49.860 problem there's a myriad of problems and each one of those needs like a a group or that's their

02:46:55.340 thing that they just do but that once you attach a dollar amount to it once you attach an end state

02:47:02.460 well then you can wrap your head around it then society doesn't really need to collapse necessarily

02:47:07.860 it's a complicated problem but once you know the parts of the problem you can devise a solution for

02:47:13.080 it anyway i hope that was helpful in some sense ontologically i'm not even against um like handing

02:47:20.680 black people or or uh or engines or anybody uh forty thousand dollars i'm really i'm like dude

02:47:27.740 take it do it and you know what if uh if you got some if you feel the one drop rule go get your 0.90

02:47:33.900 money um but i what i think is important about this is to like republicans will come at every

02:47:41.160 single uh mainstream even like the accepted underground like tucker and alex jones they'll

02:47:48.360 come at it in a way like oh this is this is you know well actually tucker would probably be pretty

02:47:52.800 cool about this um it'd be like oh this goes against the merit the meritocracy and capitalism

02:48:00.060 that america's built on and you know you need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps really it's 0.98

02:48:04.020 like no no what you need to do here is be like look the the everything is so bullshit and fake 0.99

02:48:09.120 now that we could just feasibly do this we didn't give we didn't give people uh black people uh 0.99

02:48:17.040 the what was it a hundred acres and a mule or something like that um do it like if i can watch

02:48:23.220 it watch it happen um i'm not accelerationist what i think is just you're already if you're

02:48:28.800 already in this spot gringos need to realize that okay now you do it you need to realize that like 0.98

02:48:36.020 okay we are all working a lot of y'all a lot of like dr niggas are like working bullshit jobs and 0.99

02:48:45.900 they hate it they're working for like a shitty company that's not based or red pilled and they're 0.99

02:48:50.520 they're all beta cuck uh they're all beta cucks but like um the thing is is it's it's so bad dude 0.98

02:48:57.300 why do you do this to yourself like why do you keep um why are you not like where are you so

02:49:02.780 afraid to just jump into the water and go try to uh start a business or at least work with other

02:49:10.900 people to to to like you know say say you go work for a company that's already like you know in the

02:49:17.320 south it's conservative maybe it's like a blue collar gray collar type company well just you're

02:49:22.120 already working for it invite your buddies into it get as many guys into it as possible make it

02:49:25.660 based like make it so that you don't have to watch your language at work about what you're saying 0.72

02:49:30.080 and you can while you're working on shit you can scheme and have a good time and be like oh well 0.99

02:49:34.960 this shit this this uh this march is happening in our town or they're doing this at this place 0.99

02:49:39.140 we need to uh we need to call up some council people um you know we need to go uh blair 1.00

02:49:44.000 sirens so that that doesn't happen um when you go like block the road so this shit doesn't happen 0.86

02:49:49.340 just your point you had made a part uh point earlier about you know the meritocracy and whatnot 0.88

02:49:54.040 um you know it wasn't the image of the tycoon that founded america you founded america it was

02:50:03.240 alcoholics with guns who hated condoms that's who founded america and made america great

02:50:08.320 that could be you i bet that describes a lot of people listening yeah 1.00

02:50:11.960 no shit um it's like uh fuck you know you know charlemagne right yeah charlie charlie's awesome 0.99

02:50:21.920 dude um i remember a while ago when like the a certain election a few years ago where the big 1.00

02:50:30.860 man lost um he was just making a point like all you need is like you don't need like even one

02:50:37.260 percent of america all you need is like a hundred guys to just like walk into the white house like

02:50:41.160 this happens in every country not that this this shouldn't happen and it probably would be really

02:50:46.080 silly and crazy but like the point is is every single time this has happened in history it it

02:50:51.440 it like works in insane ways. 0.98

02:50:53.540 It's just like,

02:50:54.000 I'm in charge now.

02:50:55.440 Hey,

02:50:55.680 what's up?

02:50:56.320 I'm in charge now.

02:50:57.580 Um,

02:50:57.860 you,

02:50:58.120 you,

02:50:58.880 there is like this very,

02:51:00.680 this,

02:51:01.160 this deep black pill of like,

02:51:02.860 you shouldn't do anything with power.

02:51:05.580 You should be afraid to like mention your name or your,

02:51:09.520 um,

02:51:09.920 you need to like,

02:51:10.520 we,

02:51:10.680 like we need to be eternally anonymous,

02:51:12.320 which is like,

02:51:12.600 okay,

02:51:12.740 that's good.

02:51:13.180 So a lot of people need to do that.

02:51:14.280 You'd bet you don't need behind the scenes guys,

02:51:16.180 you know,

02:51:16.740 but you,

02:51:17.120 you need your front men.

02:51:18.300 You need guys who are not afraid.

02:51:19.920 And,

02:51:20.320 and you need, 0.98

02:51:21.440 to like make you don't even like make noise like the fucking like you know these far right dudes 0.97

02:51:26.840 have been doing for decades don't be goofy about it just like realize that you you need to make you 0.98

02:51:32.700 need to take that risk of i need to have my own institution because i'm so sick of working at this

02:51:38.960 job that sucks and i want to be able to like like imagine if catholics just came together

02:51:45.020 and like like a bishop uh just said okay catholics don't work a job where you have to work on sunday 0.95

02:51:52.660 and if and if all catholics in america just need to or in this diocese need to just demand that no

02:51:58.520 i'm not working sunday and you know that's going to happen more and more because the labor problem

02:52:02.780 is so fucking bad um especially in blue collar jobs just start using your leverage because if 0.92

02:52:08.560 you're a good employee you know you're on time and you're fucking good use your leverage to make 0.98

02:52:13.720 your company not shitty and you know yeah and let me just say this before i forget and for people 0.81

02:52:18.940 listening the leverage shouldn't just be removing yourself from the company because i heard some

02:52:24.460 people you know we'll start from the position of especially white guys you know that's kind of who

02:52:29.740 we are implying with this you have a lot of power if you collectivize if you speak with a voice i'm 0.98

02:52:35.800 gonna sound like one of these damn commies but it's true but every time i see that articulated 0.91

02:52:41.760 it's usually in the interest of yeah and if you quit your job that'll show them and that's why i 0.98

02:52:46.180 don't like that's the same problem as like just leave the cities or leave everything and they'll

02:52:51.720 miss you when they're gone they won't miss you when you're gone everything will get worse then

02:52:54.820 you'll be stuck with it so like to your point which is like realize the leverage that you could

02:53:01.140 possess but don't use that leverage to remove yourself from the conversation or leave the

02:53:05.640 company and hope that it falls apart or leaves aside hope it falls apart use that to actually

02:53:09.760 advocate for something within the organization and i think that um you know when we talk about

02:53:14.940 the problems of modernity however we want to describe it they're usually like i said 45

02:53:19.480 different problems and it can make your mind spin once you can start thinking about them like one

02:53:25.240 is the biological crisis of you know mass immigration there's the stuff people forget

02:53:31.580 that you know there's plastic in your blood too that testosterone is dropping that's a big one

02:53:36.120 sometimes we forget that that's happening there's not a lot of political answers for that that's 0.89

02:53:40.180 just a fucking insane thing that we deal with another one and there's a bunch i could go through

02:53:44.480 but the one i'll talk about is the competency crisis that's something that a lot of people 0.96

02:53:48.120 have remarked upon and it's we're deciding whether it's good or bad i the position i'm

02:53:53.400 going to take right now is that the competency crisis reveals a lot of opportunities and windows 0.99

02:53:59.200 for people um the fact that if your oppressors are very stupid and the organization is hollow 0.97

02:54:05.280 So, you know, every time, like you were saying about or Charlemagne's point about, you know, showing up with 100 guys, you know, you might enter those hallowed halls and think, oh, my God, this system is so big. 1.00

02:54:16.240 Then you see Mitch McConnell's brain melt out of his fucking skull on live TV and you realize, wow, half these people are losing their minds. 0.96

02:54:24.580 Congress people are nine hundred and fifty years old and they don't know what's going on. 1.00

02:54:29.800 And that won't happen forever.

02:54:31.000 That won't last forever. But there seems that in certain areas of society, it's just full of the dumbest or the dumbest or dyingest people you can imagine. So I look at that and again, back to the project thinking of like, what can we do about that? Does the competency crisis mean that we could put some pressure on certain areas? You know, we talk about, oh, in the future, the military is all going to be like black lesbians. 1.00

02:54:55.940 it's like okay sure what does that mean for us what can we do with that is there something we 0.93

02:55:01.280 can do in the interest of doing something over here you know anyway that's just questions people

02:55:06.800 can ask themselves instead of getting too defeatist the competency crisis could present

02:55:11.660 opportunities for driven groups or you know collectivized parallel societies yeah yeah um

02:55:21.400 uh i uh i it's it's um i know a young guy oh i think he just graduated you know i'm i i am kind

02:55:31.800 of well one that i will say the company the competency crisis and i've just experienced

02:55:36.860 this my entire adulthood um in blue collar jobs is um old dogs are not they're not really interested 0.99

02:55:47.080 in carrying on their skills to younger people and they kind of see young dogs as like one morons 0.96

02:55:53.640 and then two um like like we're we're incompetent in our blood and we just can't learn and uh they 0.99

02:56:01.640 always they always want to jump on shit and do stuff for themselves um and so and that's really 0.78

02:56:08.120 not entirely their fault it's like the 90s and i had this when i was young but it it it it fell 0.92

02:56:14.960 off like i had the the the um uh i had you know my mom was kind of a helicopter mom when i was a

02:56:21.400 kid up until probably about 11 12 and that kind of went away like the 90s to the 2000s was just

02:56:26.600 this era of like everyone born during that time was just like uh uh sequestered off to go play

02:56:34.240 video games or stay within like you know uh uh one tenth of a square mile yeah hey my mom was

02:56:42.240 a helicopter mom to the helicopter from the start of apocalypse now it's it's uh

02:56:51.580 it but it's like you can't i you in one way you can't blame these young guys but too i i kind of

02:56:59.120 see like um you know judas he's brought up fourth the fourth turning book which i do love that book

02:57:04.140 it's kind of like a meme book but it is it's a good book you know when you read it you kind of

02:57:08.300 see things a little differently and it's helpful but um uh there's nothing i can say about it that

02:57:13.620 hasn't already been said really but um uh where was i going with that um uh fuck um well i'll say

02:57:22.420 just on the con i actually haven't read the fourth turning so i'm just gonna i know he's talked about

02:57:26.920 it one thing that it reminds me of it's described i think it's called the historoidal cycle where

02:57:32.900 it's like strong men create good times good times create weak men weak men create bad times bad

02:57:38.620 times create strong men that'll cycle um my fear and this is just to circle back to the turbo

02:57:44.380 america thing my fear is that a lot of the accelerationists and people who hope that

02:57:49.440 things collapse or get worse like well that'll create strong men not always you could have

02:57:54.840 collapse scenarios where the the men just stay weak forever yeah that actually happens more 0.57

02:57:59.920 frequently in history or they just become like you know retarded murderers i mean like yeah

02:58:06.400 i'll collapse um uh actually a bet a really good book to read is a collapse of complex societies

02:58:13.500 um by a joseph a tainter um ha ha ha and uh he he uh he talked about and you mentioned this um

02:58:22.100 uh is is kind of like the the alliance thing between all these dr dudes but

02:58:26.520 um every time in history where there's like a giant problem like a giant empire uh he uses a

02:58:32.460 great example um that i go back to all the time is uh the the the um the alliance at monte alban

02:58:42.140 and uh the the the city state empire of teotihuacan in mexico which this i think would

02:58:50.420 have been around like 700 AD 680 and what happened was this giant this giant empire uh in terms of

02:58:58.740 like infrastructure and just quality you know but it's still really just a city-state which you know

02:59:04.280 is pretty good for uh you know Mexico in the 600s or whatever um it was called Teotihuacan and they

02:59:11.200 they could literally conscript tens of thousands of men to go like build something like they were

02:59:17.200 powerful and all these other small tribes who were dumber than them were like we have to ally 0.97

02:59:22.820 and we hate each other but we have to ally and either like fight back or just wait and that's 0.97

02:59:27.600 what they did they waited like 50 years and teotihuacan just got too complex too fast and they

02:59:32.860 and they they they collapsed because they couldn't maintain that um that massive amount of consumption

02:59:38.840 um and then also have the production to you know meet that that demand um which is like a very real

02:59:46.200 thing happening the thing i was going to bring up about uh fourth turning is um uh they uh one

02:59:53.700 of my favorite parts is they bring up um the silent generation and and interestingly enough

02:59:58.120 like there's like four generations in each um secular cycle as they call it and it's like about

03:00:04.460 80 years long the entire duration and um the silent generation was the crisis generation

03:00:11.480 and what what's interesting is they they have statistics showing how the silent generation

03:00:16.260 were the first generation in history and even up to now that when they were asked only like five

03:00:22.800 percent when they were asked would you do you want to start a business do you want to do all this

03:00:27.460 you want to like you know get a lot of money the silent generation was like no i don't want a nice 0.99

03:00:32.060 car i don't want you know i'm not a big balls motherfucker i just want to feed my kids i just 0.97

03:00:36.980 want a good job i want a good union job to feed my kids and then you get to the boomers and it's 0.98

03:00:42.500 complete opposite and what i see with like generation z being the crisis generation of now

03:00:48.420 um not that i stand by this book in an orthodox sense because it's not entirely accurate especially

03:00:54.340 now that america is not really an anglo country but uh the generation z is probably gonna have

03:01:01.140 this similar issue where they're just like i just want the trains to run on time and i don't care 0.94

03:01:05.440 about these sad little narratives that people try to feed to me i just want shit to work and i don't 0.82

03:01:11.220 i want to be able to spend time with whatever friends or family i have i'm tired of seeing 0.97

03:01:15.740 trannies walking the streets and uh people getting killed over drugs i'm so sick of it i'm done

03:01:22.140 just please put these just like one thing that i've talked about is like one of these weird

03:01:28.560 things and if it happened like i remember trump mentioned something like this a few months ago

03:01:33.420 which if he did this if anybody did this it would be epic it's just we need to just go

03:01:40.360 pinochet on the drug problem don't do what we did for 40 years just literally if you find drug 0.99

03:01:46.820 dealers just kill them like kill drug dealers any drug smog any drug smugglers you find them 0.88

03:01:53.240 you find their stations line them up and it's like that is going to fix your drug problem and 1.00

03:01:59.420 it's everywhere it's disgusting and it's just your your rot continues and i just i think my

03:02:05.120 this generation is just going to be so beaten down by how shitty it is they're like i don't even 0.98

03:02:10.140 like i don't the silent generation had a similar thing like a lot of the guys who made it out of 0.92

03:02:15.140 the silent generation all the stories you hear about him like your great your grandpa who was

03:02:19.960 like always quiet and always just like around the house working you know working on a shed

03:02:23.620 you ask him a question he was always a one-word answer those guys they probably like killed

03:02:28.720 somebody at some point to like get food for their family and they didn't and they just don't tell 0.98

03:02:33.580 anybody and they just have to live with that shit you know it's stuff like that and gen z is like 0.96

03:02:37.960 they're kind of going through the same bout but they're not they're not like tough men 0.98

03:02:41.720 well also consider you know this is where i empathize especially with uh gen z but also

03:02:46.680 millennials too which is you know let's refer to the silent generation when they said all i want to

03:02:51.060 do is feed my kids well if you ask that to the gen z it's like all i want to do is feed my kids

03:02:56.920 but there's plastic in the food too so i guess we need to solve the food issue and it's like i want

03:03:01.700 to be able to pay my house well i can't get a house and in terms of my kids well the entire

03:03:06.140 legal apparatus is aligned against me so that my wife can take my kids so like once you look at

03:03:12.040 once you're in the on the ground there you're like what do you actually want well i want to

03:03:16.060 change every single aspect of society by 30 which is actually what you need to do so that's the true

03:03:22.960 nihilism i think that is being experienced a nihilism that is not experienced by older

03:03:28.360 generations which is like oh yeah all that stuff you went through but remember that the government

03:03:32.720 is trying to kill you and it is watching you right now and i think an interesting marker of that is

03:03:39.100 and this will be just a recent phenomenon but if you track memes and i'm old enough to remember

03:03:45.380 this i remember when memes used to be just a tiny bit depressing the types of memes that young

03:03:52.000 people get now are just about how they're schizophrenic and want to kill themselves and

03:03:56.600 that's hilarious and that like you know everyone will say like it's so much worse now for young

03:04:01.880 people because the only thing we commiserate over is being insane and suicidal and that's and then

03:04:08.580 we laugh about it you know i mean so but if you show the types of memes that are circulating even 0.97

03:04:13.440 in kind of leftist circles to an older person it'll break their fucking mind because also i 0.94

03:04:18.880 remember i remind people this is like their big trauma of these generations was nuclear war 0.98

03:04:24.440 we're starting from a place of nuclear war the risk has not gone down of nuclear war we've

03:04:30.000 accepted that and things got worse so start from saying oh yeah we can die in nuclear hellfire 0.62

03:04:35.840 but then also uh my balls are about to fall off and uh my kids are going to be stolen by the state 1.00

03:04:42.480 and their genitals mutilated if i do the wrong internet search like shit like that that's mind 0.99

03:04:47.780 bending so at the most of these kids would be like what do you want i would love to be able to 0.99

03:04:54.120 at least die with a house i know i can't have a house right now but maybe one day i can have a

03:05:00.440 house before i die like there's the the and they're being denied that and that's the problem

03:05:06.100 and i don't know if that's getting better so to your main point their capacity to accept violence 0.99

03:05:12.040 will be a lot more wide open than people believe like they'll they're not gonna give a shit like 0.97

03:05:17.760 we already see massacres and we don't care like you're not gonna shake these young people if you 0.93

03:05:23.660 see like the the main complaint about january 6 is that nobody important died that's what people 0.60

03:05:30.220 wanted to fucking see by the way so you know i probably shouldn't be saying that on youtube but 0.93

03:05:35.940 fuck we said that on our podcast it's like the only complaint about january 6 is we always give 0.99

03:05:40.680 the example when you're punching someone in the head you need to conceptualize in your own mind 0.99

03:05:45.720 yourself punching through their skull and that didn't conceptualize punching through the skull

03:05:50.720 and i'll just leave it at that anyway yeah the uh um the the thing is like uh and like i'm allergic

03:05:58.500 to the concept of revolution i wrote a little sub stack dealio called uh revolution is a spirit

03:06:05.680 um and i and i framed it in the same way like the way like once people start drinking and one person

03:06:13.900 start drinking more and another person does and before you know it within a couple hours people 0.69

03:06:18.260 are shit-faced and it's like it's a it's like a it's a spirit it's in the air it's in it's in 0.98

03:06:23.620 the vibe it's in the room that it just starts happening um revolution is like this demonic 0.98

03:06:28.080 thing in my opinion where it's just like it's a thing that really shouldn't happen i it's always

03:06:33.500 like we really should desire just proper order it would be nice if america could function and

03:06:40.040 just exist properly and i want to see that i have no like i i i'm i i like i i'm i'm i'm on i'm on

03:06:49.900 the the uh the deep state side when when when um i see like right wing dudes become these giant

03:06:56.440 russophiles and they're like oh dude russia's gonna make the west base they need to take over 0.99

03:07:00.500 everything like dude you're a fucking you are being you are being played by like bots like 1.00

03:07:04.780 you're being played by uh foreign disinformation you shouldn't want that you should want your 1.00

03:07:09.900 country to function that that's like another big beef i have just seeing like dude just i mean one 0.99

03:07:15.640 you you shouldn't have opinions about these fucking slobs like that's their deal and it 0.98

03:07:21.340 regardless of if the cia caused something or not i mean they cause everything whatever fine but like 0.98

03:07:26.440 you you should still want that to function um and yeah let me just say this i i i try and

03:07:33.200 move carefully when i make these because there's a lot of people in our space that are hostile to

03:07:37.740 these sorts of discussions but my position is that there's a creeping threat of third worldism

03:07:46.040 within this thing called the dissonant right i think a lot of people need to be very third

03:07:51.860 worldism um it could also be known as duganism um doing is alexander dugan is a very interesting

03:07:58.280 not a stupid man very a good philosopher but he is uh spearheading this internationalist movement 0.89

03:08:05.680 against the West, against the imperialists. A lot of it kind of emerges from very familiar 1.00

03:08:12.020 communist thinking, which is that the third world needs to rise up and topple the imperialist West.

03:08:18.760 So if you ever heard the term Atlanticist, that's where this comes from. So you're anti-America,

03:08:23.880 but also Britain, any of the Atlantic empire. So there's a lot of money flowing in from third

03:08:33.620 world is and this is where anytime you hear someone say again i've gotten we've gotten in

03:08:38.700 trouble with this on the show recently where i was saying you know with israel versus palestine

03:08:43.540 i'm like i'm no fan of israel but i'm like i will stop short of calling like the muslim independence

03:08:50.680 movement my brothers in the common struggle because i'm aware that a lot of these muslim or

03:08:56.320 arab movements kind of group me in with the jews like they don't like white people either

03:09:00.840 Or saying that, oh, you know, the struggle of North Korea is our struggle. Those are our brothers. Like seeing any third world is independent struggle as your own, especially if you're a white nationalist. I don't hate that. But there's a lot of there's a lot of propaganda coming into our space from that sector to turn, I believe, turn white people against their own self interests.

03:09:25.800 and i could spend like an hour going on this i'm going to try and summarize it by saying that

03:09:30.420 i i think if you can teach white people how to advocate for their self-interest they'll stop

03:09:35.540 shopping around for other ethnic groups to align with for their self-interests um and it's pioneered

03:09:43.320 by a lot of the dugan which is like he's not your friend like he he hates he's he's not like a friend

03:09:50.480 of the west either they would love to see the west destroyed and i don't think they would welcome you

03:09:54.640 with open arms that's my sense from having read dugan pretty extensively and spent time in these 0.98

03:10:01.020 circles like this isn't me talking shit i've had many conversations with these individuals

03:10:04.740 i've done the reading there's a there's a lot of people in our space i would say are our third 0.98

03:10:10.840 worldest and and are always like let's find another foreign nationalist movement that hates

03:10:15.800 us to side with to convince them that we're the good ones i mean almost all of them want america

03:10:20.620 to be destroyed that's the common thread between them they're they're like you know if you ever 0.99

03:10:25.380 heard them call america the great satan you know it's shit like that and i'm like it's there's 0.99

03:10:30.940 something going on there and it's hard to make that case without being labeled as a zionist 0.97

03:10:38.640 that's the other thing so it's like oh if you think that you must be like pro-israel i'm like i

03:10:42.320 can that that's that that's almost their framing that's the framing they want so it's like oh if

03:10:46.440 you don't if you don't love the Palestinian movement that means you are a Jewish imperialist

03:10:53.180 that's a strange way of looking at it but I've been accused that by these types of people 0.91

03:10:57.480 anyway that was a bit of a tangent I don't I'm trying to use my words carefully I really hate

03:11:03.500 anti-semitics and anti-zionists I'm uh I'm we're we're fully in support of um uh Israel here and

03:11:10.200 I just I just want to make that clear to anybody who's listening yeah like to me it's like you can

03:11:14.600 have a nuanced discussion about this sort of stuff instead of trying to clear shut up so this

03:11:20.200 stays on youtube sorry yeah like good guys versus bad guys and that's sort of like the marvel

03:11:25.460 vacation of it and i'm like we should be better than that at least anyway i know i'm gonna get

03:11:31.400 a lot of hate comments for that but i'm like just be aware that anyway i'll repeat myself

03:11:37.640 if i just keep going so we could well uh okay uh i live in the country so i can go pee right

03:11:44.920 outside this door here so i'm gonna do that and i'm gonna ask you a question i'll be listening

03:11:48.660 to you um what do you uh what is and maybe i don't know i'm sure uh you could go off on this

03:11:56.880 but like is um there there seems to be like this unanimous the wasp needs to return to

03:12:03.420 to like power like we restoring this like i think that's one of the most other the third world has

03:12:09.760 seemed to be mostly at least when i see it on like twitter um is uh like mexicans um

03:12:17.340 but the the the restoration of the wasp seems to be like um the the the go-to goal so that america

03:12:27.160 is like you restore identity those guys will do things properly do you see is that is that even

03:12:32.580 feasible and is that desirable uh yeah i think it is and there's some guys i know who advocate for

03:12:39.440 that i think uh you probably know them the old glory club um they're very into that sort of

03:12:44.060 thinking and i do agree with that i have nothing against the wasp i think they're correct in their

03:12:49.420 historical context i think they're correct in their idealism the question is whether or not

03:12:55.940 it's practical and the people once again i refer to the people asking the right questions i think

03:13:01.240 the people asking the right questions are like okay what is it about the wasp the white anglo-saxon

03:13:06.540 protestant that did help create america that helped define america and arguably is still in

03:13:12.820 control in a lot of areas like there's a lot let's not say that wasp power is completely dissipated

03:13:17.200 there are still wasps some people would even say that they've become inverted that maybe

03:13:22.040 you know they need to go away but i think the right people asking the right questions

03:13:26.020 especially those affiliated with the old glory club are the ones saying like okay what about

03:13:30.900 this group do where's the magic in that group and if it has fallen maybe we don't we don't try and

03:13:38.140 return to how it used to be but we want to capture the essence of that group and maybe replicate it

03:13:44.160 elsewhere now the problem we get and this is where we kind of return to what we were just talking

03:13:49.100 about about you know the the global state of affairs with trade is that there are no more

03:13:54.280 frontiers so a lot of the uh material circumstances and a lot of the constraints um that are present

03:14:03.100 to us weren't present for wasps when america was founded so it's it's not like we could replicate

03:14:07.740 the wasp rise to power the line for line but i think they're correct in saying that what is it

03:14:14.760 about like the idea of the white anglo-saxon protestant being if not the main identity in

03:14:21.480 america is one of them because if you go into like american history there's you know that book

03:14:26.000 american nations and alibi and seed are good for this actually breaking down the genealogy

03:14:30.240 of the ethnic groups that founded america wasp is kind of one of a few but let's just say that's

03:14:36.760 like one of the main ones especially in became to dominate okay but what about that group can

03:14:44.200 survive and thrive in the 21st century and it won't look like what survived and thrived in the

03:14:48.840 previous century but when i talk about like self-interest that's kind of what i'm talking

03:14:52.880 about like okay our self the self-interest of this group is survival now the survival of this

03:14:58.280 group might not look like colonial america and maybe it involves like settling somewhere else

03:15:03.700 maybe it involves conglomerating in one part of america and achieving sovereignty by numbers there

03:15:09.760 and then expanding outward uh but that the question of like do we think they still are

03:15:16.040 relevant yes do we think that they can survive in 20 per century yes do i think they can achieve

03:15:21.800 that status yes but they probably need to be asking different questions but i think they're

03:15:28.000 still in the phase of like okay what what is this group like they're like this is the problem that

03:15:33.260 a lot of young people have that we talked about before like you feel very fragmented you feel

03:15:37.160 very scattered right now it's not obvious if you are this type of individual how you can

03:15:42.540 go to where your people are you know you're you're stuck in you know new orleans or atlanta

03:15:48.700 or some fucking place but i hope that's an answer to your question it's a lot of yeses but 0.92

03:15:55.020 the shape it will take will necessarily be different because i think we need to need that 0.97

03:16:00.740 group needs to go through a different sort of ethnogenesis uh in the 21st century and i think 0.92

03:16:05.120 it will need a new frontier and this is where we get into kooky shit like space and stuff but you

03:16:10.560 we don't need to go down that road but that's why our side is like the only one they're excited

03:16:14.240 about going to other planets it's like okay let's just do america on mars we'll do it again this

03:16:19.180 time right um yeah but i know a lot of especially the the christian people they don't like the idea

03:16:26.740 of just abandoning earth either so that's like it's that's that's a hard sell i think especially

03:16:32.540 oh yeah yeah i'm not interested in any of that but i like if they do it i'm just like i

03:16:39.160 i mean it it space kind of embodies like uh vast chaos and nothing it's like horrible i don't know

03:16:48.500 it just seems like like maybe we should do that it's just i it's like one of those things where

03:16:54.560 i'm like i'm a peasant lay person and i'm just like you know the state will do what the state

03:17:00.120 does and that's fine just don't make me do things that are wrong and if you do then i don't have to

03:17:05.180 follow it yeah but in that techno optimist manifesto and it's funny that i don't know if

03:17:10.580 you read that manifesto but on our gum road and our patreon i do a line for line review of that

03:17:16.680 it's like over two hours long but they have this one line in there that our children will live

03:17:21.820 among the stars and i just keep saying that space is mostly a tomb you know like it's not a place

03:17:28.760 you want to be and you think it's full of wonder and it's mostly like radiation and gravity that

03:17:33.640 will turn you inside out and then just silence maddening silence so like i don't you know if

03:17:39.580 we're talking about going to space or another planet it's like you hope you land on a planet

03:17:43.260 where you don't suffocate and then maybe you just end up mysteriously irradiated like it's not a fun 0.97

03:17:49.200 hopeful thing it's it's you know at least when you went to america you could find some fucking 0.97

03:17:54.560 corn you're not finding corn on mars yeah that's great um well uh i guess i i've ran out of stuff 0.97

03:18:05.280 um i don't know how long you uh are able to go um but i can go a bit longer i think we're at like an

03:18:11.460 hour 23 i'm thinking maybe another 10 15 minutes then i gotta start getting this baby of mine down

03:18:17.640 to bed yeah uh are you a cradle catholic no no no i'm i'm a new guy oh wow wow wow uh would you

03:18:26.600 would you if i can ask would you grow up in what was your milieu nothing nothing um i was grown up

03:18:33.180 pretty not even atheist just agnostic um my parents i know my grandparents were anglican

03:18:40.560 um but my mother and father were not and so they just it was never talked about so that when i would

03:18:47.420 go to i would have friends who were you know protestants or baptists and i would go to their

03:18:52.680 church and i literally didn't know what it was yeah what's this building it seems nice it's got

03:18:57.460 an interesting smell to it but like i just didn't get it and i think later on they said like oh we

03:19:03.140 just we wanted you to find out for yourself and make your own decisions and i'm like as i'm raising

03:19:08.340 my kid i'm like well you know give them something to go off of make it so they don't just wander 0.98

03:19:13.300 and like hey who's that guy up there nailed to a cross you know like you just sound fucking 0.88

03:19:19.000 retarded yeah uh yeah i grew up in a similar situation um uh my dad's side was uh pentecostal 0.93

03:19:27.900 um and he he became an atheist my mom was catholic and she became just kind of vaguely

03:19:34.020 spiritual um so i grew up with like nothing i didn't even know who jesus christ was really or

03:19:39.520 like any of that until i was probably like a preteen or something like i would i have new kids

03:19:45.180 like i grew up in the south but i was just always puzzled and i was always like well uh we don't do

03:19:51.940 it and my family is relatively functional so i'm like uh it's stupid um but then it's just like

03:20:00.420 well uh yeah i you kind of confront the cosmological argument and then just like 0.81

03:20:05.200 what's your point in life and then it kind of becomes like oh well scientists are like moving

03:20:12.060 the goal posts and changing their literal myth like mythological tale of history all the time

03:20:17.740 and i'm like that like that's weird why would i do that with truth like truth has to be an

03:20:23.580 objectively solid thing you know what's interesting is that again as someone in their 30s i was coming

03:20:29.840 up in the age of like peak atheism atheism as pop culture atheism like there's the online atheist

03:20:38.460 versus christianity movement but even prior to that you had your maryland mansons like this was

03:20:42.820 the golden era of ripping pages out of the bible on stage so it was cool to rebel against christianity

03:20:50.560 even if you had no strong feelings about it and i'm not sure that's the case anymore not i'm i'm

03:20:56.020 an old head so i don't have my finger too far on the pulse of the culture but i don't see that

03:21:00.960 like rebelling against christianity as objectively if i did so maybe that has something to do with

03:21:06.980 more people are comfortable with it but also you don't see it represented in the media because

03:21:11.920 also when i was growing up you know if you didn't go to church you watch the simpsons and the

03:21:16.240 simpsons went to church so you knew what it was but if you just if you don't see it if you're not

03:21:21.000 you know brought into that world and you don't see it in the culture you almost have no initiation

03:21:27.300 into what this thing is and that's just i don't know what that's like for young people i think

03:21:33.180 that's a completely different experience than what i had did you have like a rebellious phase at all

03:21:37.600 oh yeah jesus christ yeah me too yeah i was i was a piece i mean i was suspended from school

03:21:44.760 like four times yeah i was um also my father passed when i was pretty young and so that mom

03:21:51.900 passed when i was young too yeah and that um you know i don't want to get off of like a little

03:21:57.120 psychoanalytic thing but i do find um a close family member passing when you're young especially

03:22:01.540 if you're a man kind of kicks you off into just rebellion in every direction so like i spent most

03:22:07.300 of my teens and 20s into the drugs into the sex into the just just wanting destruction looking

03:22:13.640 back it was it was just being an insane person um getting into like i won't go into too much

03:22:21.160 detail but let's just say crime and things like that gang stuff and what have you um obviously

03:22:26.320 not anymore but um yeah i think that had a big impact of it um i think a lot of people probably

03:22:33.120 have something similar going on and i can only imagine with divorce rates going up there will

03:22:38.900 be something analogous to that as well like young people just more now more than ever before lacking

03:22:45.540 a family structure that seems coherent um yeah again i can only imagine what it's like

03:22:52.320 i would assume my experience is widely held yeah um what i've noticed with like um i do like living

03:23:02.080 in a culturally catholic area having coming from like a more uh the baptist area of texas the the

03:23:09.580 bible church area i've now live in a very catholic area because it's freaking ethnically catholic um

03:23:16.680 but the the you know when you kind of confront people's religious their values you know ranging

03:23:26.500 in intelligence there's always like a like they there is like a pull to god even with especially 0.91

03:23:33.060 like dumber guys um that i know who are like for all intents and purposes like kind of scoundrels 0.60

03:23:39.800 in their life because they're just they're just blue collar tough they had a bad childhood or 0.99

03:23:43.740 something divorce shit like that um but there's always like a there's a pull they know they have 0.71

03:23:49.240 to believe in god because it's the thing that makes sense like whatever but um there's a complete 0.95

03:23:54.720 chaotic approach to it that everybody has where it's like even culturally catholic people even

03:23:59.880 though they i think are more they kind of get it more than i've noticed with prots because i've

03:24:05.700 been in the prot direction and that is um at least in terms of the lower church it goes it can go 0.97

03:24:12.040 insane it can i mean i was like house church type pentecostal type of stuff and that is insane shit

03:24:19.720 um what i'm getting at is there's like a chaos of people's approach to god in truth now and 0.91

03:24:27.880 everyone has their own like their own approach to it and i think that's why you get like this mass

03:24:34.080 um like conversion and reversion happening um in catholicism and eastern orthodoxy to this like

03:24:42.620 insane degree like i have several irl friends who are eastern orthodox converts who are all

03:24:49.980 young men like it's yeah big time that's something i've noticed too and they'll say like

03:24:54.780 well it's the least cucked and then you're like well is that the right framing to be using for 1.00

03:25:00.100 something like this yeah it's stupid you're gonna fuck up if you that's your basis which 1.00

03:25:04.160 um it's like you're choosing a church for political reasons yeah yeah and you see that a 1.00

03:25:10.880 lot of and and my priest he knows i'm in marketing and uh you know we're very very friendly he's the

03:25:18.160 one who baptized me and um he's he's a lot of priests are asked the same question how do we

03:25:23.200 get more people into the church and you know he doesn't really know my political leanings although

03:25:27.980 i've made them clear in various ways but um i'm like well you know what there's a group that you

03:25:34.440 want and there's a group that you don't want and if you actually again if you're talking practically

03:25:38.640 like let's say you have a problem i want to get more people to attend church that's what most

03:25:44.220 priests see because they don't see it through the political lens but i'm thinking okay i could

03:25:49.100 probably find a lot of guys to fill these seats but they would probably be the wrong types of guys

03:25:55.240 for this um and i need to ask those questions and do you want more like do you want very politicized

03:26:01.060 might be kind of easy do you want guys who are just always switching between types of christianity

03:26:06.380 you can find those guys you know you know do you want people to join the church for political

03:26:11.580 reasons that's a big one like you can probably find that but you know you might not want those

03:26:17.040 guys because they'll leave again for eastern orthodoxy because they're they're looking for

03:26:20.980 who's going to tell them when the holy war is starting and maybe that's not the maybe that

03:26:25.420 group is it's it's more difficult to wrangle long term than no one being there and then like oh we

03:26:31.440 want young families well that's a hard problem that means like you're especially these churches

03:26:36.360 like are there young families in the area well you know maybe not so then what do we do about

03:26:41.660 that anyway it's it's a complex problem but it's one that i've actually kind of been tasked with

03:26:46.280 answering and and it explodes out into complexity once you think about it yeah one thing i have

03:26:51.300 noticed that like you're not going to get um one thing i've that's i've really come to understand

03:26:56.960 and i think the internet i've know also a lot of people irl and on the internet who married

03:27:02.260 through some type of internet thing uh met people married through twitter or a discord server

03:27:10.320 and they're fine they're fine they're good um or dating apps um but these these the issue and

03:27:17.660 it's just this thing eat it eats at me is like these reverent novus ordos and tlms you know

03:27:24.200 they're full in a lot of places they're thriving with families but you have this issue of a lot

03:27:29.080 of single men and then you go to the more casual novus ordo the more feely feely and it's full of

03:27:35.300 young beautiful beautiful catholics are the most beautiful women the beautiful women and it's like

03:27:41.520 there's no like mormons do better at forcing people like hey we are here to find a wife

03:27:48.660 slash husband um at this event it's not for us to be like uh like we're here to do that

03:27:53.940 that would be more helpful but like that all i see currently and myself is include i'm including

03:27:59.460 here um i'm just a little bit more like facing the issue um with myself is just like you can't

03:28:07.620 there's a certain point my friend who um is a chanter at the an orthodox church um here

03:28:12.820 he he's he's like gotten kind of pissed off he has so many of these like 20 something 30

03:28:19.300 something dudes who become orthodox good guys work jobs you know good dudes but um they don't

03:28:26.220 they don't get married you know they don't even try and it's like dude that you can't have a

03:28:29.880 sausage fest you need to like and it's just it's not attracting it attracts families but families

03:28:36.140 who are already 30 something and it's like yeah it's just it something needs to be done there

03:28:41.520 that is like a problem they're like i see all these young guys a lot of them are like weird

03:28:45.080 and i get it and they're cool like come on this is this is a problem this is you have a bunch of

03:28:50.920 converts who are men and they have nothing to do they have no wife it's like especially if they're

03:28:58.000 the types of young guys where it's like i don't want to have women around because that's cringe

03:29:02.160 or girls are cringe you know like i'm not saying that that's what they do but i've heard guys

03:29:06.440 say that like kind of like sort of that nick fuentes america first type thing it's like

03:29:11.180 you have women around you have them around and um things uh things go down you can't you can't

03:29:18.720 have women in the church i've said before who's got the clip you can't have women in the church

03:29:24.840 that's just my nickname does impression but it's like pretty good yeah but you can't you know at

03:29:29.640 a certain point if you're being serious we could all have fun we could all meme yes but if we're

03:29:35.120 being serious for a second like okay we can't just have a bunch of dudes hanging around like and we

03:29:40.120 knew that since time immemorial like we knew they go back to the fucking 1500s like look we just 0.96

03:29:46.520 can't have these guys hanging around weird shit happens when there's too many guys hanging around 0.99

03:29:50.720 there's no pussy around it's so many to put it like exactly no no yeah and it goes in horrible 0.99

03:29:56.000 directions in many different ways but like yeah it's like a uh you're um it's just it's just it's 0.99

03:30:03.180 just uh it's cringe it's it's uh um you're not really taking your life oh yeah like jeremy

03:30:09.200 kubas of contragency lays he's like um or cubas he goes he says cubas he says it the the anglified

03:30:15.980 way um he's like dude i didn't i didn't i wouldn't have been motivated to make a bunch of money and 0.89

03:30:22.660 get shit done if i didn't have a kid because when that happened when you when you get a woman and

03:30:28.360 it's like that's expensive it's just got to take care of her and then you have kids you're like i 1.00

03:30:33.300 need to be on my shit now i just like if you don't have anyone you can just let shit fall apart and 0.99

03:30:37.900 just have like that's that's something i've noticed about myself i'd be way way more motivated 0.98

03:30:42.440 and less of a slot yeah let me just say this to the young guys who maybe didn't realize this 0.73

03:30:47.680 bitch is like going out to dinner like a lot like they they're gonna want and they want things that 0.94

03:30:55.540 you're like oh again oh you need to not you need to need another set of earrings you're gonna hear 0.99

03:31:00.600 this all the time so yeah just be aware they're having a sale at bed bath and beyond on saturday

03:31:06.320 i mean you know i know you like that's the it's like yeah and and uh you got to be prepared for

03:31:12.440 that and and you know your your brain you will start hustling your your brain will fire off in 0.97

03:31:17.700 ways and i see it with the guys the young guys i know who are recently married and it's like damn i 1.00

03:31:22.420 i need some of that shit in my life like it's too easy just being a single fuck up and honestly like 0.99

03:31:29.980 you know and this will sound i'm sure this will sound cucks to some people i do have to get going 0.99

03:31:33.860 soon speaking of wife because i have to get this fucking kid down but um you know i i do find and 0.97

03:31:40.680 this isn't a cope i do find that being married has made me a better person my wife like knowing 0.99

03:31:45.480 how i've been in my life you know we joke about oh there's a sale in bed bath yon i never went 0.94

03:31:51.180 looking for sales when i was single yeah i never got a sale in anything unless it was like fucking 0.92

03:31:56.260 beef jerky or some shit but so but if you if you find the right woman not all women are great 0.98

03:32:03.200 there's a lot of duds however if you find the right woman you will a weird thing will happen 0.98

03:32:09.460 you will become more focused and cool and that woman will become smarter because she'll just 0.99

03:32:15.820 absorb all the shit that you're into that's the cool thing about women they're just like you know 0.98

03:32:20.440 they don't they're not they don't have that sort of autistic focus on weird things so 0.99

03:32:24.340 they'll suddenly have things to talk about it's a win-win for both sides i'm like i'm selling

03:32:30.040 marriage to young people yeah all right uh that's good bro i hope this is a good show we covered a

03:32:39.140 lot of uh of ground hope i didn't get you into too much trouble we had some people in the chat

03:32:43.540 asking like were you serious about that israel comment um no no not at all all right clear

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03:32:57.300 even became a fan of your show but uh it was the all boomers are the what is it every boomer

03:33:02.600 that shirt sells so well considering i made that shirt very quickly i'm like this is a fun shirt

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03:33:15.760 like you know i'm not i'm not one of these guys that blames boomers for everything i'm really not

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03:33:28.340 of got like an mde thing going on and i love it and everybody should check your shit out and give 0.99

03:33:32.760 you money and go on your hilarious ass website buy your merch you just like contragentiles 0.99

03:33:38.760 your fucking show needs to be huge you know you're good bro well honestly i appreciate having you on 0.99

03:33:44.480 i'm a big fan of your stuff as well um and i've watched you on youtube before and this is one of 0.98

03:33:49.900 of the better conversations i think i've ever had i'd hey anytime you want to have me on i'll

03:33:54.220 i'll do i'll be wherever you're at wherever you need me put me in coach

03:33:58.380 all right good talk bro god bless i'll talk to you soon bye see you

03:34:06.380 hey baby i hear the blues are calling

03:34:13.420 and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you pegs

03:34:19.900 But I don't know what to do

Blood Satellite - November 10, 2023

If 9⧸11 Was a 1984 [＂physical which empowered them on the Avesta＂]

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