Blood Satellite - July 17, 2026


Indian in a Cowboy Hat vs. Cannibal Muslim Frasier = Agency War


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3 hours and 11 minutes

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154.07

Word count

29,486

Sentence count

425


Transcript

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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be a
00:00:07.760 blood satellite this is a video i've got here i'm just gonna read the headline here
00:00:23.440 michael dell founder of dell computers i didn't even know his name was michael dell
00:00:31.200 that's very funny to me i just thought it was dell because that's a computer name
00:00:36.080 it's the other way around it no i mean it's like the thing i'm looking at his face that he looks
00:00:42.060 like a dell product like he is like who who writes this shit buck status what the sigma
00:00:48.840 hello i'm john dell shut the fuck up frank microsoft over here yeah uh
00:00:57.280 well here's what he says he's talking to trump they caught him on a hot mic
00:01:01.800 yeah which sounds unnecessarily sexual caught on a hot mic telling trump and i don't know
00:01:09.300 what preceded this but he says sir we don't have a helicopter we have a delicopter
00:01:16.140 in what in god's name could have triggered that i want to see we're going to listen to this right
00:01:25.660 now he had that one in the chamber through the entire meeting he's had that in the chamber his
00:01:30.160 entire life he's been walking around with that in his front pocket wearing a hole through it
00:01:36.860 let's see what he says every question to kill sir we don't have a helicopter we have a delicopter
00:01:43.920 so let me just say trump sounding utterly unimpressed going that's good um we didn't
00:01:53.540 capture this in because you're listening to this on audio but michael dell swooped in from out of
00:02:00.400 frame he was not in the conversation that was happening it was like he smash cut himself in
00:02:06.920 they're like by the way mr president with with such excitement it's sickening but you have to
00:02:15.120 imagine that it's noisy it's busy trump's he's shaking hands all day he hears that he hears deli
00:02:23.740 coffee wow now i gotta know what type of salami are we talking here i was gonna say
00:02:37.660 because he's jewish too it's like tell me as if i couldn't get any harder and i can
00:02:44.860 tell me like i'm not rock hard and i am
00:02:55.580 him clearing the room to talk about the deli meat helicopter
00:03:00.860 you gotta go to the situation room for this
00:03:06.380 so if people are detecting a sharp vibe shift between the previous episode and now it's because
00:03:14.220 judas woke up from a little cat nap get your hand off my penis what is the charge eating of succulent
00:03:22.040 chinese give me a break it happens it happens i'm only 20 minutes late you've never sounded
00:03:29.640 more discombobulated i i feel that way too i'll get there i'll get there i gotta get my juices
00:03:35.140 going here i empathize because that was the exact time of night where i also want to catch a quick
00:03:43.180 snooze i love to snooze i love to doze and i'm like i'm doing it on the couch and i don't want
00:03:49.920 to fall asleep so i i require the alarm clock that is my wife to remind me that you know top
00:03:57.340 gun maverick isn't over it's the seventh time we've seen it but every time is like the first
00:04:03.360 time you put on top gun maverick you tell me you're not locked in i thought you see you put
00:04:07.940 on top gun maverick tell me you're not falling asleep by the second act no you know i i credit
00:04:12.440 the fact that i didn't fall asleep was because we had top gun maverick on and it was like right
00:04:15.860 right near the end nice and i i felt so proud to be an american you're you are my favorite american
00:04:24.020 like that movie coming out considering how many people saw it like i you put a communist
00:04:31.740 in that screening they're leaving that wave in the flag yeah is it that good is that they're
00:04:38.100 finding their sister burning the american flag and they're putting her in a fucking chokehold
00:04:43.620 sending her to saudi arabia in a box they used to do that and i i don't have full confidence
00:04:50.260 that they used to do that but i feel like there was an era post 9 11 that yeah we we must have
00:04:57.220 been sending just whoever to black sites in kuwait or something right yeah i just meant like as a uh
00:05:03.700 as a sex slave to like this saudi princess he meant as a sex but also yeah i guess like kuwait
00:05:09.700 black site would be another one maybe you could mix it up you'd like you roll the dice a little
00:05:14.340 bit you don't know where it's going and we're sending a lot of people a lot of places we
00:05:19.940 of course not me not canada we americans we americans you're sending people you know i think
00:05:27.140 guantanamo bay is still open right yeah which is in the middle east of north america cuba
00:05:32.980 That's so funny that Guantanamo Bay is still there
00:05:36.000 and no one gives a shit.
00:05:38.100 They're going to invade Cuba soon, apparently.
00:05:40.200 They're going to send in like 100 helicopters or something.
00:05:42.780 And it's like...
00:05:44.060 Cuba keeps getting liberated from two different sides
00:05:48.640 and nothing happens in Guantanamo Bay.
00:05:50.720 It remains there.
00:05:53.580 It's great that no one gives a shit about Guantanamo Bay
00:05:57.340 because I'm old enough to remember when people really did.
00:06:00.180 Yeah.
00:06:00.280 civil rights abuses i think this has got to the point where there's so much
00:06:05.020 worse that the u.s has done that nobody cares about the little things like oh you torture
00:06:10.420 political prisoners whatever everybody does that and i mean now you're also like murdering children
00:06:16.100 and raping kids and drinking people's adrenochrome and you know it must seem quaint to them to have
00:06:23.580 defend terrorists brown terrorists and now they have to defend tranny school
00:06:30.240 shooters and just nigger rapists I saw a post just the other day and I don't
00:06:38.580 know the full story but it was a woman this is just a vibe description all
00:06:44.160 these facts may be wrong but as a woman who was celebrating herself she's a
00:06:49.580 a lawyer for getting a death row conviction downgraded to just a life in
00:06:56.900 prison conviction for one of her cases one of her charges and people were
00:07:04.160 looking into it and of course it was it was some kind of heinous like you don't
00:07:07.820 end up on death row for nothing it's like kidnapping and torturing children
00:07:13.700 is what lands you there or something equally disturbing and just her
00:07:19.220 celebrating that and then they check the rest for posts and what she doing she's
00:07:24.200 complaining about Elon Musk of course the billionaire class about how you're
00:07:29.960 all slaves to the power of capital I'm like okay I mean your job is saving the
00:07:35.240 lives of child raping murderers mm-hmm you know so that's that these are the
00:07:41.460 type of people now we're dealing now i have a question for you what would be worse your wife
00:07:50.020 leaving you for a black guy or your wife leaving you for a whiter guy wicked that's not good
00:07:59.060 i ask this of every listener yeah and i you know what i already saw this post by you the
00:08:07.000 originator of this post and i i actually thought deeply about it i couldn't decide i'm telling you
00:08:13.020 why do you think i posted it yeah it's actually a post for fun it rings like a joke and then when
00:08:18.680 the ringing stops you're like i don't actually know the answer to that man that's hard
00:08:21.940 you stop you shake your head you're still in the fight exactly that's what this one is
00:08:27.580 it's just like a topic this is some 824 shit you you're you're shaking yourself
00:08:32.700 at the g-lock is here pull up terrain pull up
00:08:36.380 terrain terrain pull up but it's terrain is the name of your wife you turn up pull up my wife
00:08:46.720 hmm i don't know gang do we get let them have no it's to avoid okay yeah all right
00:08:53.800 you talked your way out of another pickle junis yeah i did the night is still young i'll get you
00:09:02.700 This is a funny thing to consider because what I would like to normalize is, you know, when these white bitches, you know, they want to piss off their dad.
00:09:16.180 They want to get back at their ex.
00:09:19.320 They'll get with a black guy, right?
00:09:21.500 Purely as an insult to the planet.
00:09:25.680 That's why they do it.
00:09:26.560 But I would like to normalize that you would really piss your dad or your ex off
00:09:31.720 is if you fuck the whitest guy imaginable.
00:09:37.220 Now, you might be extremely frustrated,
00:09:41.760 especially if you see the type she's going after,
00:09:44.280 because she might go too white.
00:09:45.760 Right.
00:09:46.980 Albino.
00:09:48.920 The alabaster disaster, yeah, the albino.
00:09:51.980 The alabaster disaster is what I was going to say, then he said it.
00:09:56.560 now because you're wondering what powers does he have it's unnatural perhaps demonic
00:10:02.800 good question black man or white demon who are you going with what if he's what if um
00:10:13.040 he's not a white demon what if he's a well then we would have a question what if he's a chartered
00:10:18.220 accountant i guess i think like really really really white guys are like uh mortgage brokers
00:10:26.320 he's failing the cuckold breakfast question interesting what if what if i don't want to do
00:10:32.760 that well you have to it's kind of it's called a premise i'm i'm just refusing no i'm refusing
00:10:40.580 no i i walk in the room he closes the door behind me all right the black the black dude is worse i
00:10:48.260 think i think so it's less chaotic it's like it's an outcome i don't want they're sorry the
00:10:56.300 the white guy is an outcome i don't want but it doesn't have i don't have to like adjust my whole
00:11:00.700 world view but then the black guy is like not only is this a bad thing for me but also everything
00:11:07.500 that i thought was true is not true like there's more of a there's a larger betrayal i think doing
00:11:13.340 it that way yeah there's that's where i'll stay yeah because if she gets with a guy like powder
00:11:20.300 you know kind of an enchanted it was a guy who's just he's literally me but better i'm like
00:11:25.180 look i'm mad but i get it i guess yeah i'm mad but does he have eyebrows no check these out
00:11:33.100 you grass seems pretty green doesn't it then you go the guy that's too smooth
00:11:40.220 you just you know what the sound i would make if i learned that it's it is preferable but the
00:11:46.380 sound i would make is what if she finds out afterwards that the guy is actually just me
00:11:53.500 in a suit you just you like in a huge bulky fucking suit because you can't afford a good
00:12:02.900 one so it's just like an obvious like a very halloween costume stiff latex yeah
00:12:07.600 just to be in a costume you just painted a hulk costume
00:12:10.800 your fists are so huge and loud
00:12:17.840 his fists sound like they're smashing concrete
00:12:23.000 even when he's not
00:12:24.320 I imagined you talking to her
00:12:30.980 in a field
00:12:31.660 I don't know why my mind is going there
00:12:34.400 but then a swarm of kids
00:12:37.060 run up to you and like, whoa
00:12:38.440 no, no, no
00:12:43.300 I'm trying to offend God
00:12:45.880 yeah i'm doing a doing a backwards mrs doubtfire over here you gotta give me some space kids and i
00:12:52.000 say here's a man who never saw mrs doubtfire no he pretends to be a woman to get his wife back
00:12:58.880 so he pretends to be different now you're right it is yeah i maybe i haven't seen that if i did
00:13:03.740 it was 20 years ago pretends to be his wife to get a loan it pretends to be his own wife to get
00:13:11.200 a car loan or something this is i love i love mrs deadfire was a great movie that was a great
00:13:16.540 year who tends to be his wife to get a loan just a perfect role for dan ackroyd working at a bank
00:13:22.080 yeah yep i don't see any good dan ackroyd movies these days and there's no equivalent
00:13:27.840 there's no equivalent yeah they don't make them like that anymore you know even you know i was
00:13:32.980 thinking about that the leslie nielsen thing and how they did the uh what did they do they redid
00:13:37.940 the naked gun naked gun which was good i liked it but it's not leslie nelson you can't and there is
00:13:43.520 no substitute and i i guess it is just an era thing like the 80s was a thing you could kind of
00:13:48.020 do that yeah so um i forget how we came to this in the chat we're talking about jurassic park
00:13:55.460 and then it was our good friend mark trouble he just written joke rassic park
00:14:01.920 and it was
00:14:04.120 you got the dinosaurs wearing the clown
00:14:06.680 wigs honking nose
00:14:08.820 and I just started thinking about
00:14:10.520 what if it's Joe Crassic Park
00:14:12.140 and it's a Korean Velociraptor
00:14:14.880 man just bombing at an open
00:14:16.640 mic
00:14:17.040 it's Joe Crassic Park
00:14:24.660 you get nothing
00:14:26.400 I don't even know man
00:14:27.240 because Park is a Korean last name
00:14:29.640 oh oh fuck that i that one went right over my head all right i've got it it's okay i didn't
00:14:34.500 want to have to break the emergency glass for that but you need to know a lot about korean
00:14:39.800 people and no one does yeah that's the thing i know about korean people by the way like i don't
00:14:45.100 yeah i don't know a second thing you got one korean fact and it's that and i think the park
00:14:49.860 might be their first name but their first name is also the last name it's a topsy-turvy race over
00:14:54.620 there yeah they're messed up i also had one here how about instead of wreck it ralph it's rectum
00:15:01.180 ralph and it was me struggling with a seth rogan impression he talks like this and his voice his
00:15:11.500 voice goes up at the end like that and i'm trying really hard to not do jordan peterson right now
00:15:18.300 but it's me rectum ralph and my ass is out
00:15:23.340 speaking of which uh lindsey graham died that was the best segue of the year
00:15:35.900 yeah it's like his ass is all stuck out of one end and he's dead anyways uh
00:15:41.980 yeah that's how it is this is a bipartisan death yes multi-partisan death yeah we need fireworks
00:15:51.100 the same light bulb when over everybody's head saying what deranged and bizarre fetish took this
00:16:00.640 man out yeah there's no you saw the headline first thing contracted a sudden illness or died
00:16:08.220 suddenly. The word sudden was in there. Aaron's thinking, okay, what sex thing killed him, right?
00:16:16.080 We still don't know. I think we might have word on something here. I've got The Guardian pulled
00:16:21.520 up here about Trump's barbed eulogy. I'm also looking at, I got a couple articles pulled up
00:16:29.060 here about Lindsey Graham's legacy, but they're talking about a disease he contracted. And of
00:16:33.900 course everyone hears disease what do they think they think aids but do they have sudden aids i
00:16:40.240 don't know but i don't know what sudden aids if he died suddenly of some other illness that's
00:16:44.080 related yes yeah monkey box would it be fair to say lindsey graham was the gayest man in congress
00:16:51.060 that's a high bar that's a really high bar though because congress is like
00:16:54.720 one of the gayest bodies of humanity it's very gay i look at him and i say everyone knew he was
00:17:02.900 gay that might make him the least gay the gayest man has yet to be discovered because he's so he's
00:17:10.820 such an operator yeah yeah yeah like you could never know it could probably if trump was gay
00:17:17.840 that'd be so hilarious i like cock
00:17:21.760 standing over this man cannot get the standing ovation he definitely does more with the hair
00:17:31.360 in makeup than lindsey ever did you know so he's got that going for him i'm looking at fox news
00:17:36.520 limbs lindsey graham's death leaves void as israel faces shifting u.s support i'm not reading the
00:17:44.760 times of israel i'm just reading fox news every news outlet is saying the same thing lindsey graham
00:17:50.980 dies israel most affected yes i mean nobody can even deny that even his his his supporters can't
00:17:59.620 deny that. Mr. Prime Minister, Senator Graham was one of the leading voices advocating for Israel,
00:18:05.880 advocating for expanding the Abraham Accords. Every time I talked to him, he wanted to talk
00:18:09.880 about this. Mr. Prime Minister, what does his loss mean not only for you, but the people of Israel?
00:18:17.280 What do you think the impact is globally? In Israel, it's grief. In Iran, it's celebration.
00:18:23.260 I saw a quote from Netanyahu, and I had to look this up to make sure it was real.
00:18:28.780 and maybe i got got by some ai but it was netanyahu praising lindsey graham for wanting to secure so
00:18:37.120 much funding for israel and saying that he wanted so much money i asked him to stop he said no no
00:18:42.860 no you need first of all like like we don't know jews like you're not king jew and like i i told
00:18:49.580 him stop giving me money for no but also it wouldn't surprise me if lindsey graham was was
00:18:57.440 also trying to like sneak money into your pocket as you were leaving
00:19:01.560 what a shameful way to die what what because that's going to be the story of you i don't
00:19:07.520 know what else he did i know two things about him gay zionist
00:19:11.440 god needed a lady but now that graham cracker's dead man all the jews are sad man
00:19:26.220 now all the hebrews bang bang never been to goya nigga looking like a slug
00:19:34.180 man all the twinks salute the god and they ain't been the same man bro hopping out the
00:19:42.980 anus plane with a motherfucking girl's name check it out ass out body is a damn shame
00:19:52.420 ukraine won't fit in his penis well bro has got to try again fly my pants half mass
00:20:00.840 because i'm the gayest nigga that has ever been yeah and then he either he either died
00:20:07.340 late in some like weird gay sex freak position tied to a fucking train or something or he was
00:20:13.600 hit by a russian missile was the other one i heard which seems believable because he only
00:20:18.860 apparently landed like 48 hours before he died yeah so they're like well what if they fake the
00:20:25.760 the landing just to claim that he died in the in the u.s because the u.s is too cucked and gay as
00:20:32.900 a nation now to deal with the fact that such an important politician was killed in a russian
00:20:39.040 strike because the u.s has spread way too thin and is way too much of a mad dog to actually do
00:20:43.960 anything about that if that were the case it's the what they wanted to do was to get america back for
00:20:50.600 taking out so many of iran's leaders but so they they did a brazen daylight attack to take out
00:20:59.760 lindsey graham yeah who they believe to be one of their most beloved congress people right which
00:21:05.260 due to his media coverage you could be mistaken for believing that what they did not expect was
00:21:10.120 that in iran they have public mourning vast processions and yeah is there a public procession
00:21:18.660 for lindsey graham everyone just everyone who matters said oh no he died of an aids thing
00:21:24.460 aids thing in ukraine and now if i was trying to make the multi-polarity audience happy i'd say
00:21:30.720 hot shit hot shit here it comes lindsey graham dies of aids uh did not have aids before he
00:21:39.520 touched down in ukraine uh yeah there you go he died of instant aids geo pinochetty is somewhere
00:21:46.260 out there viciously clapping but then also you know that that's a bit more politically aligned
00:21:55.340 than what i was laughing for 20 minutes about and this might be my official take
00:22:00.080 that lindsey graham went to ukraine to try and fit ukraine in his ass
00:22:05.880 he died doing what he loved trying to fit ukraine into his mind you he went to ukraine to try and
00:22:15.300 put ukraine up his ass the problem was ukraine was full of russian soldiers and it was ultimately
00:22:22.440 that miscalculation that killed him ultimately it was a political error it was an intelligence error
00:22:30.740 we got we got bad intel
00:22:36.300 they got like the the whole pentagon like people outside the door listening in to the you know
00:22:47.500 what's going on in the war room trying to figure out how much of ukraine will fit in his ass
00:22:51.940 uh so i'm also looking at the garden here trump's barbed eulogy for lindsey graham reveals how
00:22:58.740 fragile his ego is i mean they'll just they'll publish anyone writing anything in the news
00:23:04.460 won't they well i mean you didn't need this to figure out how fucking fragile trump is he's
00:23:08.420 fucking snaps at anything but uh on monday uh in an interview with fox news trump remembered
00:23:14.620 graham as someone who called as someone who called him too much as a poor golfer and in
00:23:22.320 the manner of a person remembering a pet labrador as someone who loved being outside
00:23:28.120 that's pretty good actually
00:23:32.640 suck that golf
00:23:34.920 I love being outside
00:23:35.800 invited to remember Graham
00:23:39.240 in that Fox News interview
00:23:40.720 Trump responded he was a great guy
00:23:43.120 he was a friend he would call me all the time
00:23:45.600 he would just
00:23:46.360 I'd say stop calling me Lindsay
00:23:48.360 the man just passed
00:23:53.200 he's not even in the ground
00:23:54.820 he was saying how annoying he was
00:23:56.760 that's awesome uh he was a he was a workaholic politician now some people don't call that work
00:24:04.840 some people call that a lot of talking but everyone loved him
00:24:07.500 that might be the that's so mean yeah he worked a lot some people say what he was doing it wasn't
00:24:15.720 real work it was a lot of talking but they loved him like first of all that's what you do as well
00:24:21.700 you're also a politician yeah that was that was so cruel that you forgot for a minute
00:24:27.000 i had this article here that i haven't even read yet but the title here grabbed me i'm looking at
00:24:37.640 nature.com under scientific reports falling fertility on the left as key driver of u.s
00:24:46.500 birth decline so people on the left are not having babies so it says political or is the
00:24:53.380 abstract political orientation has been shown to correlate with fertility raising the possibility
00:24:58.940 that demographic process processes contribute to long-term ideological change using data from the
00:25:06.280 u.s general social survey we analyze a bunch of fertility bullshit from 1943 1947 birth cohort
00:25:14.060 onward however a pronounced divergence emerges individuals with right-wing political orientations
00:25:19.260 maintain fertility at or above replacement level whereas fertility among left-wing individuals
00:25:24.860 declines sharply well below replacement um separate analysis of black and white americans
00:25:33.500 reveals however that the increasingly stronger association between political orientation and
00:25:38.320 fertility is more recent in cohorts
00:25:40.020 only hold true for whites
00:25:42.080 but not for blacks. Fascinating.
00:25:44.880 Nonetheless, these findings
00:25:46.100 suggest that recent fertility decline in the United States
00:25:48.340 is driven disproportionately
00:25:50.300 by left-leaning individuals
00:25:52.020 and point to contemporary demographic
00:25:54.380 processes that may gradually
00:25:56.300 shift the ideological composition
00:25:58.320 of populations. Now, just reading
00:26:00.440 that, I don't have the full study
00:26:02.140 in front of me. The very
00:26:04.260 fact that they included black and white
00:26:06.580 tells me that
00:26:08.100 the scientists behind this might be on side of us because you wouldn't hear that brought up
00:26:15.440 otherwise like it's very hard to find race brought up i can imagine that it would it would be in the
00:26:21.860 data regardless but the fact that they included it in the study because they didn't need like
00:26:26.840 what are you why are you what i mean you there's only one conclusion to draw from that so you
00:26:32.560 should probably have left it out if you didn't want people trying that conclusion so fascinating
00:26:36.560 Yeah, it is interesting that all this political stuff, ideological stuff, it doesn't have no effect on the black community.
00:26:42.840 They seem to just do whatever the fuck.
00:26:44.900 They seem to just have kids with no planning or regard for their society at all.
00:26:50.160 It's like white people dramatically change when they switch ideologies, and it turns out that blacks fundamentally stay the exact same, but just put on a different hat.
00:27:04.460 Yeah.
00:27:04.660 like they will switch teams insofar as they're allowed to pursue their own interests yeah and
00:27:10.940 you can read that either as them being insincere or being incompetent in achieving the goals
00:27:16.040 associated with their ideology or you could also just say maybe blacks are not capable of actually
00:27:22.060 having ideologies in the same way as white which i think is probably closer to the truth
00:27:25.280 i think blacks and a lot of other races in that strata are not actually like they're it's it's
00:27:32.660 always love saying cargo cult right but like they don't actually operate within civilization
00:27:37.220 the way we do they're just miming us so there's that famous maxim uh woman is the nigger of the
00:27:44.420 world now that's true in the reverse as well niggers are the women of the world the only one
00:27:51.140 left having kids yeah yeah but but they there's a great post by someone i don't care for zero hp
00:27:58.420 lovecraft but i don't have in front of me but i'll paraphrase it here he said that you know women
00:28:03.540 don't employ language or deploy language like men do uh everything they do is kind of circumstantial
00:28:11.500 it's whatever serves their interests so like if being trad serves their interest if saying being
00:28:18.400 trad means you need to respect the role of women in society then they're trad you know whatever
00:28:23.600 or if it's being a feminist means you need to respect the role of women in society and give
00:28:27.980 them more power then they're feminists it's just they switch up the labels but it's actually the
00:28:31.700 same thing every single time which is what you see with a lot of these nouveau trad influencer women
00:28:38.320 which is you know they will don the apparel of the trad woman but it's effectively your husband
00:28:45.220 goes to work to pay you to be an influencer and you get to do whatever the fuck you want and you
00:28:49.740 get hired help you actually don't need to do anything right so is that is that trad well it
00:28:55.580 just means that you get to be a princess so same thing with blacks it's just like you know whatever
00:29:02.280 the title is whatever the attire you must don it's like are you going to get free money are you just
00:29:08.320 going to get free stuff and more power and punish whites that's it you'll go wherever lets you do
00:29:15.100 that but it's only whites that think that i need to behave a certain a different way if i move to
00:29:20.320 a different group. We're the only ones that actually reverse engineer ourselves to fit the
00:29:26.060 group. One thing that we've always come back to is we're going through something of a genetic
00:29:31.040 bottleneck that even if you break it down racially, it seems that higher educated,
00:29:36.300 higher performing, higher earning white couples are having more kids. And you're seeing lower
00:29:43.340 income, lower educated whites having less kids. And it used to be the complete opposite.
00:29:48.040 it the stereotype was that lower income people had more kids and higher income people did i think
00:29:54.120 you're seeing a complete reversal on that for eugenic reasons because abortion and drugs and
00:30:00.040 all that shit and like every consequence of modernity up to including the dating market
00:30:06.560 and ssris and everything really hit the lower strata of society right yeah and it's it's only
00:30:14.140 the people you come on the fringes and on the higher end the elites and whatnot who have the
00:30:20.940 ability to like circumnavigate all this bullshit and carve out a special place for themselves
00:30:25.100 so like they're the ones who are actually going to be reproducing they effectively conducted a
00:30:29.860 eugenic experiment on society they made so like blacks are still like like the black women
00:30:38.720 constitute 70 of all abortion something some crazy number like that yeah that's a number i made up
00:30:43.880 but it's like they're predominantly it it's it's huge but i mean look that that factors into what
00:30:48.580 they were saying about how this doesn't like the politics doesn't seem to affect their fertility
00:30:53.440 right like nothing affects their fertility they have like infinite fecundity right they will
00:30:58.220 they will just have infinite children and the only reason that they'll stop is because you give them
00:31:03.600 a gun to shoot the children so that they can party more right and that's all like the only
00:31:09.240 that will affect their fertility is access to abortions and if you take away the abortions you
00:31:15.260 will be overrun exactly like africa i'll bet you obviously it's ahistorical but i will bet that if
00:31:21.320 you were to remove access to abortions in the states you would have still to this day essentially
00:31:26.680 the same fertility among black americans as you have in fucking africa right they would all have
00:31:31.760 nine kids i guarantee you that every black woman in america would have at least nine kids because
00:31:36.660 they can't stop themselves and there would only just be mounds of dead babies like that's the if
00:31:42.060 you didn't give them abortions like the kids would just die in the street they would have nine kids
00:31:46.740 and then they would just yeah or they or you just have you know the fucking white tax cattle paying
00:31:51.440 to put these kids in institutions so it'd be hell either way yeah and those institutions are filled
00:31:57.720 with black children corpus which we don't want to see we actually already have don't want that yeah
00:32:02.820 Yeah, we have that in other places that are managed by them.
00:32:05.760 With everything that we've got, we still have that in their schools.
00:32:09.840 There's still murder factories, like even now.
00:32:12.460 Yeah.
00:32:12.880 We love to glorify the left over on this side of things sometimes,
00:32:16.680 but I really don't think they have dating, courtship,
00:32:21.520 or childbirth or child rearing really figured out.
00:32:25.560 You know what I mean?
00:32:26.200 I understand that on the right, perhaps our children are more likely
00:32:29.520 to die from motocross accidents.
00:32:32.100 and hilarious stunts.
00:32:34.640 I think it's our side that still embraced
00:32:36.660 the jackass lifestyle,
00:32:39.240 the Woodstock 99
00:32:40.740 lifestyle.
00:32:47.640 But they're just dying because their parents
00:32:50.380 are forcing them to be vegans.
00:32:52.220 Just sad
00:32:53.680 nerd deaths.
00:32:56.660 On a massive scale.
00:32:59.180 Because
00:32:59.560 if your kid dies
00:33:01.840 in a jackass style accident a cky style accident that inspires every every kid around him every
00:33:08.880 kid gets smarter as a result some kid dies of veganism nothing happened no one learns nothing
00:33:15.280 there's nothing to be gained by the community but our our deaths are triumphant and so they
00:33:23.300 and sort of great songs or great wisdom you're really going hard on this every dead right-wing
00:33:32.020 child could have a statue made of them well yeah yes but also i just love that i bet you feel
00:33:37.660 pretty fucking stupid now that like bam margera is like the poster child for this somehow like
00:33:43.120 an unmarried degenerate alcoholic he's he's the satan of this because he's still alive
00:33:50.960 oh right right they're supposed to be dead i get it he's he he held on yeah as a mockery to god
00:33:57.680 it was like i skipped the bam mania i didn't know i liked jackass at the time and i was
00:34:06.540 wasn't into skateboarding at the time so i thought bam was a loser but i had no idea that
00:34:12.500 for a lot of our generation even gen z too kind of but millennials like they're there's people
00:34:19.960 obsessed with bam margera i've got i've got to confess i actually never liked jackass i always
00:34:26.440 had a principled stance against it that they were fucking idiots and it's a stupid show well it's
00:34:31.520 called jackass even as a kid even as a kid i remember everybody being obsessed with it and i'm
00:34:37.920 like i don't i don't understand i get part of it i'm a weirdo right but i see guys driving a
00:34:45.520 shopping cart down a steep hill and i close my eyes because i'm gonna watch a guy get his arm
00:34:50.300 disconnected from its socket and go to the hospital i don't actually like it i don't i
00:34:54.120 don't enjoy it so and i never understood that here's what i think you're missing out on and
00:34:59.260 i understand that uh if if that's that's what our friends were doing so we're of an age where
00:35:07.120 when we were teenagers jackass was just coming out yeah and so maybe younger people don't do
00:35:12.980 this anymore but you would have known a few guys who had their crew of friends who are doing jackass
00:35:18.860 oh yeah like we know it's true like we all did this kind of stuff but it was always like to me
00:35:25.080 the way i remember it is like you're always um you're like goading each other right everybody
00:35:30.740 in like part of the drama of it the excitement is everybody knows it's dumb everybody knows it's
00:35:36.100 going to hurt and nobody actually wants to do it but you're all like pushing each other who's going
00:35:40.100 to be the one who breaks his arm right whereas with that it's like a planned like hey we're all
00:35:44.680 buddies we're gonna all break our necks and watch us break like a man like we yeah we did stuff like
00:35:50.540 that and then we got hurt and usually it was only one of us and then we're like oh fuck well here's
00:35:54.800 here's the problem that a lot of people our age didn't really get what worked about jackass
00:35:59.760 and i'll defend because i actually like jackass quite a bit i'm not going to see the new one
00:36:04.140 i don't think because in like the previous one but um one thing and you would think that it was
00:36:12.660 that if you only watched your friends do and everyone did the same thing they rode a rubber
00:36:18.040 made container off their roof they did the shopping cart down the hill and then they did
00:36:24.000 like shooting each other with bb guns or shit or like something with a car right but what i loved
00:36:29.240 about jackass and johnny knoxville did a lot of this it was just them recreating looney tunes
00:36:35.480 moments and there was such a goofiness to it and it was like so childishly stupid so like if you
00:36:42.680 remember like bugs bunny shit where it's like we're gonna paint paint a fucking uh tunnel on a
00:36:49.420 rock wall and have steve will get rocket skates and do like like literally just make cartoon stuff
00:36:54.920 like all this stuff we thought was safe like if you just ride a bike off a roof you're 10 times
00:37:00.960 more likely to break your neck than anything they did which was flashy and showy yeah and and it
00:37:06.900 might look bad but they do in such a way where it's just you're landing on your shoulder a lot
00:37:11.520 but like guys our age we would always pick shit where like if you're being dragged behind a car
00:37:16.380 there's a hundred ways you could die in an instant and that's why they didn't fucking do it
00:37:20.240 after you watch succession you should watch jackass and we got this came up in the chat
00:37:27.280 people have been watching you oh no where you at in succession and don't lie i'll tell i didn't i
00:37:35.020 haven't i haven't picked it back up again i will look i promise that i will i wish you lied you
00:37:40.620 what you wanted me to lie and say that i was that i finished it then it means you would have cared
00:37:44.400 i care enough to not lie are you gonna break my heart i'm gonna ask you and you answer truthfully
00:37:53.460 are you still in season one uh no i well i haven't moved i was i think i'm on episode one or two of
00:38:00.720 season two but that's where i was the last time we talked about it too okay it's not as bad as i
00:38:05.860 thought you got one season under your belly you got it i got belly i got the characters to an
00:38:12.620 extent but yeah we're all over the fucking place in this episode not a lot's been happening
00:38:18.260 i was talking to my wife about that i'm like what's going on like i guess there's two wars
00:38:23.020 we got the wildfires today is that over where you guys are yes so i woke up today and the
00:38:29.300 entire day has been dusk yeah i tried to look it up and all i get is americans complaining about
00:38:35.240 awful canada and their toxic smoke and i'm i'm laughing as if as if we're not suffering from it
00:38:40.760 too, but yeah. This morning, extreme and historic weather conditions putting millions of Americans at risk with dangerous smoke from Canadian wildfires now blanketing the Midwest and Northeast and Central Texas in the midst of a life-threatening flood event. First in the north, water bombers and helicopters now deploying to fight more than 180 wildfires in Canada. Also, haven't we just been exchanging wildfires for two, three years now? It's mostly, it's mostly us giving it to them.
00:39:10.760 There was one that was, like, the Hollywood was on fire.
00:39:14.040 Yeah, but that never came up here.
00:39:15.340 That was just, that just smoked.
00:39:16.520 They smoked themselves.
00:39:17.900 But usually when we get it, the air currents carry it down to them.
00:39:21.360 Well, you know what?
00:39:23.140 Who, who, even my wife was saying, like, the sky's kind of brownish red.
00:39:30.300 Like, who gives a shit?
00:39:31.960 Yeah.
00:39:33.060 I saw a video.
00:39:34.740 It was cooler, which is nice, because it's been a heat wave otherwise.
00:39:36.960 So it actually cooled the air down, which is cool.
00:39:38.680 I saw this wild video of these two, the two most Canadian guys you've ever seen.
00:39:44.900 They're conducting a train, and they're just stopped in the middle of a forest,
00:39:49.600 and it's just a raging inferno on either side.
00:39:53.700 And it's like, oh, jeez, bud.
00:39:56.080 They're just like...
00:39:58.000 This could potentially overtake us here.
00:40:01.160 This is getting a little scary.
00:40:02.820 Yep.
00:40:03.780 Holy...
00:40:04.780 okay okay y'all need to hurry up here like seriously we're encased in flames now
00:40:12.920 i didn't know i'm like are trains fireproof like they're like there's flames licking the windows
00:40:20.400 it's right like a foot away from the doors it's like they're in a burning building
00:40:24.740 yeah holy fuck there it's not good all right so speaking of birth rates declining
00:40:30.440 let's have a look at this
00:40:32.720 so
00:40:33.580 here could be a reason
00:40:36.060 this was in
00:40:37.740 2019 but it's
00:40:40.260 from Canadian law
00:40:42.460 appeal court
00:40:44.140 confirms jet setting couple
00:40:46.280 with separate residences
00:40:48.120 were still living together
00:40:49.420 so this is a case
00:40:52.240 the couple started dating in
00:40:53.980 2001 when the man who was very
00:40:56.100 wealthy was 46 years old
00:40:57.980 at that time the woman was a
00:41:00.120 38-year-old model
00:41:01.720 is... Could there be such a thing?
00:41:05.480 Hmm.
00:41:06.100 A 38-year-old model?
00:41:08.060 Yeah. Maybe they
00:41:09.700 just used her as a
00:41:11.900 background. Like, they used her as the wall behind
00:41:14.020 the other younger models.
00:41:15.720 Yeah, she was like a train model.
00:41:20.780 She's a Warhammer
00:41:21.900 40k model. How about a
00:41:23.960 fucking model ship,
00:41:25.920 you stupid bitch?
00:41:28.660 Within a month of dating,
00:41:29.960 the man started giving her a monthly allowance
00:41:31.960 plus access to credit cards he paid
00:41:33.960 for many everyday expenses
00:41:35.500 most summers are spent in the man's cottage
00:41:37.980 importantly they never lived
00:41:40.140 together but lived a few
00:41:42.100 blocks away
00:41:42.800 parted ways 14 years later
00:41:45.840 which prompted the woman to claim
00:41:47.780 spousal support claiming
00:41:49.860 they were common law spouses
00:41:51.500 because this is what you hear
00:41:53.860 growing up especially when you were younger
00:41:55.240 if you cohabitate with someone
00:41:58.160 for, I don't know the exact amount of time.
00:42:00.320 I think it was a year.
00:42:01.740 Yeah.
00:42:02.180 Right?
00:42:02.540 If you're, oh, you're common-law married,
00:42:05.700 which seems, like, I don't know when that went into law.
00:42:10.680 That can't have been from the 1700s, right?
00:42:14.000 No, that's got to be recent.
00:42:15.740 Yeah, there's no way.
00:42:16.800 It's a bad law.
00:42:17.660 That should not exist.
00:42:19.080 Because it was my understanding
00:42:20.780 that you're married when you're married.
00:42:23.060 You can't just say you're pretty much married.
00:42:25.460 well it's the same thing as um it's the same thing as the way the welfare system rewards
00:42:30.060 single mothers it's the same shit like you're rewarding people for not being married like hey
00:42:35.340 why why get married we'll give you all of the state benefits of a legal marriage in fact we'll
00:42:40.680 give you more in some cases uh as long as you you know that's that's fucking stupid they shouldn't
00:42:46.080 do that now here's where he fucked up maybe the woman or maybe he's a genius or thought he was a
00:42:53.000 genius the woman claimed the man had proposed marriage to her several times i guess she
00:42:58.740 declined and treated her as his wife among other things he gave her a seven and a half carat
00:43:06.400 engagement ring a wedding band and an eternity ring i don't know what the fuck that is the woman
00:43:12.920 believed they were married for all intents and purposes but for participating in a ceremony
00:43:17.480 and I assume filing the legal
00:43:19.640 paperwork to be married
00:43:20.940 the trial judge
00:43:23.540 ultimately concluded that the couple's extended
00:43:25.560 time at the
00:43:26.380 oh my god, the extended time
00:43:29.780 at the cottage and regular periods
00:43:31.640 of part-time living qualified them
00:43:33.620 as cohabitating, like even that definition
00:43:35.760 you're not even saying in spirit
00:43:37.460 you were married, you're like, you know I think like
00:43:39.460 if we count up all the days you
00:43:41.580 spent at your vacation home, yeah that's a marriage
00:43:43.840 that's so much worse
00:43:45.460 I would rather you redefine marriage
00:43:48.160 Than be legalistic about
00:43:50.000 How many
00:43:51.280 Cumulative hours have you been
00:43:54.020 In the same room
00:43:55.260 Because that's how we define marriage
00:43:57.520 As you know
00:44:00.200 The best marriages
00:44:01.820 The best marriages you can think of
00:44:04.480 Are when the husband and wife
00:44:06.100 Are nowhere near each other
00:44:07.900 Across the house
00:44:10.220 I'm in the yard
00:44:11.400 I'm looking for a way
00:44:13.020 to build an outbuilding
00:44:16.220 that I can just
00:44:17.700 lay on the floor in.
00:44:20.040 See what I'm saying?
00:44:23.440 That's a healthy marriage.
00:44:26.360 Oh, you're in a real marriage
00:44:27.960 just because you snuggle up
00:44:30.440 on the love scene?
00:44:31.120 No, that's fraud.
00:44:35.000 So anyway, this guy
00:44:36.040 ends up having to pay
00:44:37.420 spousal support to her.
00:44:39.600 That's so funny.
00:44:41.500 I mean, fuck this guy, honestly.
00:44:43.020 deserves it but at the same time it's funny i wish the worst on both of these people he's still
00:44:47.580 riding on the succession bitterness he's still thinking like these people they got their
00:44:52.020 billions they got their billions and they got their vacation house pussy and they're giving out
00:44:58.320 fur coats yeah you know i hope she i hope she takes everything and i hope she burns it and
00:45:04.980 they both die poor i think that would be the best outcome i hope she takes everything and
00:45:08.800 subsequently loses everything yes because i don't it's not that i want her to have it it's that i
00:45:13.900 think she's the best method by which to destroy him and her being a busted 40 year old whore
00:45:19.540 will obviously ruin it all and so then they're both wrecked and i just it's juicy i love it
00:45:24.480 intrepid listeners will understand this to be the accursed chair from george bataille that
00:45:30.640 that's what i was going to say yeah surplus capital must be uh ritualistically sacrificed
00:45:36.900 in this case a courtroom where the money is just passed around and burned as it
00:45:44.280 goes until the capital is dissolved, otherwise it would threaten society by
00:45:49.380 remaining in stasis. That home should be condemned due to a murder-suicide, of
00:45:56.340 course, and pushed into the lake. All the children get together and hoist it up
00:46:01.800 and toss it in the lake
00:46:04.320 and go, yay, hooray.
00:46:06.640 Like an Indian festival.
00:46:08.800 In any society, that makes sense.
00:46:10.500 Did I say an Indian thing?
00:46:12.580 No, I said you push the house
00:46:14.180 into the lake.
00:46:14.680 You know what it is?
00:46:15.220 Like it's an Indian festival.
00:46:16.340 I am polluting the lake.
00:46:18.060 Yeah.
00:46:18.820 That's the most anti-white thing
00:46:20.680 I've ever done.
00:46:23.640 Fuck, I desecrated a lake?
00:46:26.700 Ooh, there might not be
00:46:28.180 any coming back.
00:46:28.940 Waddy.
00:46:29.780 Waddy.
00:46:30.400 So yeah, the other thing
00:46:31.700 I was going to say, before I forget about
00:46:33.700 Lindsey Graham, I was
00:46:35.080 thinking of, instead of Senator
00:46:37.600 Reagan, it's Senate Her
00:46:39.280 Reagan.
00:46:41.740 But I hardly know her.
00:46:43.280 It's Ronald Reagan, and he's dressed like a lady.
00:46:46.300 And he wants
00:46:47.880 Congress
00:46:49.520 to create a penis
00:46:51.320 inspection day.
00:46:55.140 Mr. Gorbachev,
00:46:57.220 tear down these pants.
00:47:01.700 that's just the the soviets inspecting you know oh no no no i won't follow you there
00:47:12.340 this will fuck you he this is i hate nap judas so much
00:47:17.220 firing firing heat across the plate he just keeps flipping his bat upside down
00:47:28.700 you're whacking it off
00:47:30.500 you're whacking it off
00:47:33.040 I'm not whacking it off
00:47:34.220 you know
00:47:35.200 um okay
00:47:38.820 so I was just reading something
00:47:40.900 in our chat I made an
00:47:42.920 ill-advised move
00:47:44.480 and I need to warn everyone
00:47:46.860 against doing this if you run a
00:47:48.860 telegram group
00:47:50.080 do not add the dick
00:47:52.640 grower bot
00:47:53.540 because you can't remove it
00:47:56.660 you cannot get rid of it
00:47:58.260 there's no command to do it.
00:48:01.540 That's the trick.
00:48:02.420 If you're running a chat,
00:48:03.440 we talked about the penis casino, of course,
00:48:06.080 and then I added it to our chat,
00:48:08.220 thinking everyone's going to get kicked out of this.
00:48:10.340 They hate it.
00:48:11.240 They hate me.
00:48:14.080 I'm sweating.
00:48:15.040 I'm fumbling trying to get this thing out of there.
00:48:16.360 You can't do it.
00:48:17.140 You try and message the guy who created it,
00:48:19.540 you've got to pay money to send him a DM.
00:48:22.200 Oh, no.
00:48:24.740 I've cursed us all.
00:48:26.480 So, yeah, don't do that.
00:48:28.260 um you had said something in a chat i saw that you're done with you're anti-reading
00:48:33.540 yeah buddy what were you getting into something it wasn't about a specific thing i read
00:48:39.060 it was about somebody uh somebody trying to be fucking smart and i was making fun of them
00:48:45.120 for not being smart and then something to do with it was about wood
00:48:48.140 was it i don't have telegram up was it where was it where was i saying that
00:48:54.620 you lost me here i remember i remember that before we're talking about the dick or bot
00:49:02.620 being a curse we have another bot that is being created by
00:49:06.620 our longtime friend barry linden he's working on a project in parallel with one that i've been
00:49:14.680 working on which is creating a blood satellite uh agent uh bot if you will and what i wanted to do
00:49:23.300 was have a bot that was sourcing exclusively
00:49:26.780 from a knowledge base of the episodes of the show.
00:49:31.240 And the way I was going to do that
00:49:32.240 was transcribe every episode of the show,
00:49:35.980 then use that to make sort of a JSON knowledge base,
00:49:39.700 and then you can use that to train an AI bot
00:49:42.660 and then sort of ask the questions.
00:49:45.200 So people want to know what episode something is from
00:49:49.060 or how many times we mentioned something.
00:49:51.780 you can just ask it but barry was taking it a bit further and creating like a like a managed
00:49:59.780 agent or something that would listen the episodes i don't know how exactly he did this but
00:50:05.520 it would try and create a construct of our personalities and so you could ask judas
00:50:12.140 questions ask dimes questions and i gave a it gave a profile of each of us and i we need to
00:50:19.200 get this on the record. Do you want to, would you like to read our profiles? Let's have it.
00:50:23.700 So, see what they say about me.
00:50:27.400 Person profile, Dimes. Dimes is a complex individual
00:50:31.040 with a strong sense of self. They, that's unfortunate,
00:50:35.620 they have a sarcastic and humorous tone using irony
00:50:39.240 and sarcasm to make points. Dimes appears to be familiar
00:50:43.340 with various online communities and has a strong understanding
00:50:47.420 of internet culture their worldview seems to be shaped by a mix of skepticism nostalgia and
00:50:54.540 cynicism is that right this is i mean look it's a little bit of a like an astrologer take isn't it
00:51:02.620 it does feel like like it is astrological it's like it's like you're complex and loyal to a fault
00:51:10.380 if you said to every woman on earth will agree to that yeah see which is to say all of that is true
00:51:20.000 but is that how i would define you no probably not that's those aren't the things i would reach
00:51:25.660 for let's play a game of is this about dimes or hassan piker right exactly dimes values honesty
00:51:34.920 and authenticity, often calling
00:51:36.980 out others for being insincere
00:51:39.020 or hypocritical.
00:51:41.620 They position
00:51:42.960 themselves... I think we celebrate it. We often
00:51:44.960 celebrate hypocrisy, actually.
00:51:47.420 Yes. They
00:51:48.860 position themselves as a neutral or
00:51:50.820 objective observer, but with a critical
00:51:52.980 eye. Absolutely not.
00:51:55.020 Not at all.
00:51:56.760 I am proud. I'm the most biased
00:51:59.060 person that I know.
00:52:00.700 I'm probably the most biased person all of you know.
00:52:04.920 Dimes tends to emphasize the absurdity or hypocrisy of certain situations
00:52:09.900 rather than taking a straightforward stance.
00:52:14.860 Perhaps, but if you're a commentator at all, you kind of do that.
00:52:19.320 They frequently use phrases like, I'm not saying this is good,
00:52:22.780 but to frame their opinions in a more nuanced way.
00:52:26.160 That's just projection.
00:52:27.020 That's what the LLM says.
00:52:28.280 That's not something that you really say.
00:52:31.560 That's like a classic LLM phrase.
00:52:33.600 they claim to be a champion of knowledge and understanding over dogma or ideology
00:52:39.280 i am let me be clear i am anti-ideology but i am pro-dogma yeah i don't think i could be more
00:52:47.720 clear about that yeah dimes positions themselves as an outsider or critic of mainstream politics
00:52:53.520 or social norms like you guys go liberal that they'll tell you that like i had i'm i hate to
00:53:00.920 drag him like this, but even my
00:53:03.060 father-in-law, I remember years ago,
00:53:05.200 he was speaking of himself,
00:53:07.040 of course, in a very proud tone
00:53:09.080 saying, like, yep, you can't
00:53:11.280 figure me out.
00:53:13.160 You can't say
00:53:14.660 what side I'm on.
00:53:16.280 When they made me, they broke the mold.
00:53:20.160 I still
00:53:21.360 laugh at that. Like, you're just a
00:53:23.120 weed liberal.
00:53:24.680 Please.
00:53:27.480 Like, I would actually rather
00:53:28.940 you be a war liberal.
00:53:30.920 Like the hype you're seeing now where it's like you love NATO and you love,
00:53:35.300 like there's like a liberal imperialism,
00:53:37.260 but like you were just like a liberal because you like weed.
00:53:41.300 And that's it.
00:53:43.400 Like that's literally his only position.
00:53:45.380 How about Judas now?
00:53:47.480 Oh, no.
00:53:48.680 Judas appears to be a complex and multifaceted individual
00:53:52.200 with a mix of contradictory traits.
00:53:55.760 I'll say he's got your number.
00:53:59.720 he's he's pessimistic cynical world weary has a tendency towards dark humor he frequently jokes
00:54:08.860 about violence all right you got me you got me and i i thought okay this
00:54:14.020 he's listening jokes that's we get he's joking about that his worldview seems to be shaped by
00:54:23.520 a sense of disillusionment and frustration with the world around him but i mean yes but also again
00:54:29.620 astrology yeah yeah uh styles positioning statements judas often positions himself
00:54:36.500 as an outsider or observer like okay uh judas tends to frame his opinions in a way that's
00:54:44.520 critical or dismissive of others perspectives yes perfect i think i think it's gotcha yeah it got
00:54:53.400 me there what's that now you're fucking gay shut up get out of here fuck off die
00:55:00.100 that's why they love you
00:55:03.500 no i don't want to say this to even belittle his work because he's he's working on it something
00:55:10.420 like this is very complex we're trying to got to figure out how to because even for me for the one
00:55:17.740 i'm doing it doesn't assign names to someone as like speaker one and speaker two right but i don't
00:55:25.240 think it can build anything off of anything you can just search the show for topics and things
00:55:30.700 like that but i don't know if it could it can make one personality that represents the show
00:55:36.940 that's what it could do like just a chimera of the both of us but the thing he's doing is much
00:55:44.720 more complex um i got one here i asked it because you can ask judas i asked it what's the best wood
00:55:53.880 and this is something i've asked you before and you've always had an answer so i'm gonna read
00:55:59.300 actually maybe i should get you to read it i'll read it in my voice and then we'll see if it
00:56:05.280 sounds like something that i actually said it's actually in the chat if you scroll up oh in the
00:56:10.200 chat in which chat you and me you and me okay he goes wood huh oh here it is wood huh yeah i'd say
00:56:18.440 it's all about what's available we're not exactly swimming in options here are we um if you think
00:56:23.540 about it we're stuck in whatever the world gives us and let's be real most of the time that means
00:56:27.540 something mediocre but hey sometimes you get lucky and finding something decent like i don't know a
00:56:33.040 nice piece of cedar or something it's not like it's going to change your life or anything but
00:56:36.360 seriously what's the best one that is a tough one i got my doubts about most of them but we're just
00:56:41.040 making do with what we have right i love how to answer that like you are being interrogated yeah
00:56:47.160 i've never seen someone dance around a question with with such a fever before please don't shoot
00:56:53.640 me the correct answer is white ash white ash for 500 points is that in in the the instance of now
00:57:02.140 or is that now and forever that's my answer today this week in the mood that i'm in what i would
00:57:08.620 like to work with what i'd like to see in my house is white ash but if you wanted to there is no
00:57:13.260 universal answer obviously be a i'm gonna actually end up saying the same thing that the
00:57:17.800 i would i'd say it's all about what's available fuck fuck no that'd be okay so the actual for me
00:57:24.820 we're not really scoring an option
00:57:26.360 no there so it's it's there's different there's different materials for different things right
00:57:33.580 that's like saying you're gonna paint a picture what marker are you gonna use i don't know what
00:57:37.400 am i drawing right like it it depends it depends is the answer or i mean we're just making do with
00:57:44.040 what we have right okay all right fine you're right it's not like it's gonna change your life
00:57:53.420 for anything the ai put everything behind like making a perfect version of you and me it just
00:57:59.700 made like the lead singer from good charlotte it made billy joe armstrong i don't know i don't
00:58:07.220 know how much money this cost barry either like you also asked that who's in who's in next in the
00:58:12.820 firing line for bitch watch the running joke with bitch watch being that bitch watch is only ever
00:58:17.540 Lauren Southern but it didn't seem to pick up on that yeah it's so this was me asking dimes so
00:58:24.820 allow me to read it who's next in the fire line for bitch watch I think the next in line for
00:58:30.060 bitch watch would be people who still think it's okay to use the phrase no offense when they're
00:58:34.620 about to insult someone I mean come on that's just a cop out I love this I love this because
00:58:42.260 it's trying to do a bit.
00:58:45.680 It's like,
00:58:46.720 you know who's
00:58:48.420 in the fire line for Bitch Watch?
00:58:50.720 Whoever's bright idea it was
00:58:52.500 to package 12
00:58:54.420 hot dogs and 8 hot dog
00:58:56.580 buns. I mean,
00:58:58.820 do we live in a society or not?
00:59:02.300 So, you can do this on here. It says,
00:59:04.140 and yeah, I'm not saying this is good, but
00:59:06.140 it's just so obvious when people are trying
00:59:08.360 to save face by using
00:59:10.360 that phrase. It's like, if you're gonna
00:59:12.360 insult me, at least have the decency
00:59:14.360 to do it without pretending like you're being nice.
00:59:16.560 You know?
00:59:19.320 No.
00:59:20.140 I've never felt like more of an asshole.
00:59:22.120 I know. That one is not believable.
00:59:24.120 They really got my number, actually.
00:59:26.200 More than I thought when I initially
00:59:28.080 read it.
00:59:29.940 Oh, man.
00:59:31.920 You'll notice that there's nothing about
00:59:34.060 racism. Yes.
00:59:36.540 There's nothing about
00:59:37.800 racism,
00:59:39.080 terrorism
00:59:40.800 or nominalism
00:59:43.260 those are the big ones
00:59:45.200 I recently saw
00:59:48.440 Jay Dyer
00:59:49.900 appearing on Tucker Carlson
00:59:52.000 and everyone was debating about nominalism
00:59:54.760 and I'm just
00:59:56.820 I'm at such a good place right now
00:59:58.520 where I don't know what the fuck
01:00:00.700 that is
01:00:01.320 I don't know
01:00:03.880 I haven't gotten to that yet
01:00:05.980 we're doing hermeneutics
01:00:08.680 but i i think it's i heard someone describe it i know this can't be what it is but it was the
01:00:16.180 belief that things take on the nature of their names or something like that yeah it's uh nominative
01:00:24.000 determinism nominative i can't see it ties you up right no nominative right determinism named
01:00:33.520 after john nominative determinism no named after john dell actually john john dell determinism
01:00:42.200 like it is nominative determinism that a man named john dell would create a computer
01:00:48.920 that was all yes exactly exactly that's somebody like people who name the companies after them
01:00:56.660 it's like that's that's uh nominalism because like what are the odds that the company would
01:01:01.800 have his name yeah but like linds say lindsey graham is nominative determinism because he's
01:01:06.840 huge faggot and he has a woman's name but it's also like it just seems so retroactive it's like
01:01:11.040 lindsey graham because gay guys jerk off on a graham cracker and eat it so of course he would
01:01:15.580 be gay yes i can kind of do that with anything yeah you can do that all day honestly yeah and
01:01:23.360 i i know that's not what jay dyer was saying i'll never know because i'll never listen to it
01:01:28.340 because he bothers me yeah there's an idea in the middle ages called nominalism have you heard that
01:01:34.220 yes okay so nominalism is the idea that there are only names to things not essences so there's no
01:01:41.440 human nature there's no dog nature when we talk about natures or classes or sets of things we're
01:01:48.540 not giving a an ontological metaphysical status we're just simply classing things together
01:01:53.300 linguistically in a set the middle ages and the ancient world the time of paul or the church
01:01:58.480 fathers they thought very differently they thought that things have natures they have essences and so
01:02:03.980 the words aren't just terms or nominal name ism i don't know i used to like uh watching i've seen
01:02:11.980 a couple of debates with jay dyer and uh our sister show do you even read the acronym is dire
01:02:19.660 and so people thought oh is that an homage and i'd say no he blocked me he doesn't like me and i
01:02:27.620 don't care for him either but uh you know what his greatest sin was and he's eastern orthodox so i
01:02:35.100 don't know if they have the same sins as we all do yeah but uh he tries to be funny and everyone's
01:02:42.640 allowed to try and be funny but he's really not and i think it was around the third time i tried
01:02:49.640 I saw him do a rap as Jordan Peterson
01:02:52.060 that seemed completely unrehearsed,
01:02:54.600 but he was also wearing like pit viper shades.
01:02:58.640 It didn't go together.
01:02:59.960 That's not what Jordan Peterson would do.
01:03:02.220 He can't do it.
01:03:03.320 I wash my hands of you, Jay Dyer.
01:03:06.500 What else is going on here?
01:03:07.480 I was reading something that's probably the most relevant
01:03:11.760 of the things to people's interests
01:03:13.960 that we've discussed thus far.
01:03:16.640 looking at the cbc right now uh there's an indian gang an indian criminal network
01:03:26.340 have you heard about them before the the bishnoi yeah the bishnoi gang the cbc says extortion drugs
01:03:34.900 assassination and transnational indian crime syndicates operation hardball explained uh
01:03:42.100 A splashy U.S. indictment against the Bishnoi gang backed up by details from Canadian deportation hearings.
01:03:49.840 So, this is my bias, my prejudice, of course.
01:03:55.540 It's very difficult for me to take an Indian gang seriously.
01:03:58.760 Would you agree?
01:03:59.820 I mean, I'd like to say that because I love mocking them.
01:04:03.080 But no, actually, I am frightened of them.
01:04:06.440 I'm not saying I'm frightened of Indians generally.
01:04:08.940 But look, I've told you this before.
01:04:11.060 my wake-up call moving to hong kong was that every chinese guy i'd ever met prior to that was like a
01:04:16.980 weird liberal pencil neck five foot three loser and then moving to hong kong it's like oh they
01:04:23.180 have normal normal men over here that like eat red meat and they have gangsters and they have
01:04:29.860 fucking cops that will fuck you up so and i i'm sure that india has those as well i'm sure they're
01:04:37.160 just as stupid as regular indians but is there such a thing as a jack six foot two indian with
01:04:42.320 a machine gun yeah and when he's as dumb as an actual indian then he's probably more dangerous
01:04:47.800 than you know oh fuck the hell's the problem is like i'm looking at their photos of the guys
01:04:53.380 they've got arrested here look at this guy satin dirjeet singh on the left here okay i'm not afraid
01:05:02.340 of that guy i'm not afraid but look at look at sukraj kang there on the right i'm not saying i
01:05:09.080 wouldn't be afraid of him if he was like if i just met him at the fucking no frills but if this
01:05:14.200 had a lead pipe and he was at my door i would be thinking twice like i wouldn't i would probably
01:05:20.020 want to get my gun you know what i mean like and and also you got to remember these people
01:05:24.880 these are the guys that walk in front of trains so you can't i don't think you can be like with
01:05:30.560 these motherfuckers i don't think you can necessarily count on threatening them or
01:05:35.860 intimidating them i think they have like you know fruit fly brain where they're they're just going
01:05:42.080 to get them self-killed for no reason at all they're niggers right so that i mean that's my
01:05:46.700 fear with niggers anyways is like you they will actually kill you over nothing and ruin their own
01:05:53.200 lives doing it it's the they're the scorpion so the problem with niggers is that i said that in
01:06:01.120 a strange tone didn't i i said like anthony hopkins but there's a certain ferocity about
01:06:09.180 them where you get the sense of if you shoot them with a taser they'll keep coming you know but i
01:06:15.580 look at these indian guys even these ones arrested here and they're just so weak they all look because
01:06:20.560 they're all they're all still vegetarians they all still just eat like sauce bread all day
01:06:26.260 yeah and so like they're not physically imposing you look at a white gang look at like a hell's
01:06:31.840 angel can be intimidating but i'm putting myself in this position and imagine them trying to shake
01:06:38.740 you down with that accent like no you can't like i here's the like they're dangerous in the sense
01:06:47.460 that anyone with a gun is dangerous but i'm like i don't know like i i would look at some of these
01:06:54.740 white gangs where or even like triads where you hear they're doing meat cleaver assassinations
01:07:02.280 in the street to send a message i look at these guys and like i don't you don't you don't have a
01:07:07.440 thing you don't seem particularly confident like i don't know i i know that if they were moving in
01:07:13.520 on my business i'd be singing a different tune but here we go one of the groups run from a jail
01:07:20.660 cell in india by gangster lawrence bishnoy is charged in incidents linked to the extortion
01:07:26.400 crisis plaguing communities in ontario and british columbia as well as the assassination of six
01:07:30.800 separatist leader hardeep singh najjar i think we talked about this guy yeah just because the last
01:07:38.540 name and the first name are very funny um fbi los angeles assistant director patrick grain took a
01:07:45.260 victory lap alongside rcmp commissioner mike to shame declaring operation hardball a strike of
01:07:50.700 the heart of the brutal transnational organizations have terrorized families my god was this an
01:07:55.980 american thing yes so this is in canada well it's international the whole the whole the
01:08:03.980 bishnoi thing is not a canadian phenomena it's an international criminal organization but it's
01:08:09.460 there's a lot of the a lot of things that are going on are in canada but they're also happening
01:08:13.740 in india and in the u.s and in europe i don't know how how big the problem of indian crime is
01:08:19.400 right now i can't i can't get a sense of what their thing is like what's their big revenue
01:08:26.080 generator uh political assassin like it almost seems just like drugs like even just on ontario
01:08:32.120 i think it was on ontario this week didn't they pull a guy over a sing with like 12 million dollars
01:08:38.680 of coke in his truck so like they're doing all the same things they're they're gun trafficking
01:08:43.240 and coke and they're it's you know human human trafficking sex slaves and whatever else it's
01:08:48.040 the same that every other brown group is doing that's what i'm trying to figure out because if
01:08:52.200 you look at the ecosystem of crime and different like there's the middlemen and then there's like
01:08:59.080 you know fentanyl is brought in from it's all chinese gangs yeah i mean but it changes hands
01:09:05.800 eventually so they're all kind of involved but like you got certain gangs like like the hell's
01:09:10.040 angels and the white gangs if i had to guess these guys would be doing distribution towards the
01:09:15.400 interior of the continent because i know that china has essentially controlled the maritimes and
01:09:19.960 the west coast but these guys seem to have a much larger presence in the prairies and ontario
01:09:25.080 yeah because like i was saying like the white gangs that i am aware of they seem to be big into you
01:09:31.920 know making and selling meth and gun running those are the two big things yeah whereas with uh you
01:09:39.440 know mexican gangs it's it's really big on drug trafficking and i guess murder but not really in
01:09:45.720 america right and then with asian gangs like their thing was always like um extortion they were really
01:09:54.320 big into extortion really big into racketeering and like basically squeezing every chinese person
01:10:01.380 they could you know i mean like a lot of that was like intra-asian as well not all of it right but
01:10:06.580 a lot of it but i'm like like i'm trying to get a read on what the indians are like
01:10:10.480 bringing in you know are they like supplying anything or are they just like
01:10:15.420 the hired hands right now that that's the sense i get which is you know it's hitting every industry
01:10:23.800 you know i mean like these were jobs that were traditionally held by white first first retail
01:10:31.600 and then trucking and then you know tech and now we have the fucking the gangs yeah yeah they're
01:10:37.200 just middlemen they're because they're cheap and there's a lot of them it's the same story well
01:10:42.260 come to me in a year and a half and tell me where you're at the gang purportedly wrote to police in
01:10:50.640 happens for bc directly last summer claiming to have more than a thousand foot soldiers in canada
01:10:55.820 ready to carry out extortions and see like this is the other thing i was talking about i just look
01:11:02.480 at their their ex they're explicitly hindu they're a hindu nationalist gang
01:11:07.300 and again another dimension of this gang war that i don't want to know about right like i shouldn't
01:11:14.320 have to read this shit all of these people should be deported and these ones named here should be
01:11:18.860 executed without any like don't even blink man come on and whenever you hear extortions it's
01:11:23.820 like you're extorting other indians too and so i i get i don't care as much but i don't want to
01:11:31.760 have to see it because you're just extorting money from them to put it into other endeavors
01:11:36.320 that will eventually lead to more giant statues being built yep yep um in another case abjit
01:11:46.220 Singh Kingra, the gunman who shot
01:11:48.160 14 bullets into a Bishnoi target's
01:11:50.380 Victoria home, claimed he was paid
01:11:52.300 $4,000.
01:11:55.320 Which is
01:11:56.160 like crazy low.
01:11:58.860 Like from what I'm reading in this article,
01:12:00.920 they're
01:12:02.700 doing shootings for $1,000
01:12:04.520 each. Yeah.
01:12:06.200 And it's funny because that guy is
01:12:07.700 sick as well.
01:12:10.060 Like even black
01:12:12.080 children in the hood
01:12:14.560 are doing shootings for like five grand yeah that's what i mean like these guys are these
01:12:19.860 guys are retarded they're the guys that walk in front of trains so they're willing to risk their
01:12:23.100 lives for for nothing that's what i'm saying that's what that's what frightens me about this
01:12:26.600 like you cross these guys they will kill you in your feet they'll just burn your house down as
01:12:30.860 you sleep and then they'll go to prison for it because they're stupid they're like they're like
01:12:35.400 bugs like i'm i i really i'm frightened of that these people exist in my country and i want them
01:12:41.380 fucking round it up man i wonder if you could use that against them we understand that they have
01:12:46.720 tiny insect brains so they don't know what to charge for a shooting they don't know how to
01:12:52.820 shoot so if you see one pull up beside you you know throw your hands and say no no the
01:12:58.240 gurjeep already shot me i i got shot already yeah you're not gonna get the money you're not gonna
01:13:04.260 get the money but but i'll give you four hundred dollars right now to shoot it's an i'm shy then
01:13:08.720 he'll go away he'll go oh no oh they just just lie to them they don't they don't know yeah
01:13:17.280 so yeah i'm seeing i'm seeing a guy here on screen that looks like a fat aziz ansari like i i'm i
01:13:25.000 this guy shows up to my door with a gold ak-47 i'm slamming the door in his face
01:13:30.320 like i'm i'm calling it i'm calling every indian's bluff
01:13:35.620 oh 10 guys with extremely curved machetes not happening no my limbs are fine today
01:13:45.200 be gone i'll just shout guard seize them and leave i'll walk out of guess what i'll walk
01:13:53.920 out of my own fucking house leave the door open go in there do it go live in my house
01:13:59.040 leave the wife and kids
01:14:02.320 leave the wife and kids
01:14:03.140 do whatever you want
01:14:04.600 I'm going to stand right here
01:14:07.300 you know what I want to walk away
01:14:08.900 I'm going to go get a slushie
01:14:11.460 watch him do nothing
01:14:13.480 it's a power move
01:14:14.480 watch him go find a train to lie down
01:14:17.600 in front of
01:14:18.280 why am I scared of the most suicidal
01:14:21.300 people on earth
01:14:22.420 we both live close enough to trains
01:14:24.760 that we're probably safe
01:14:25.940 because they would just get hit on the way to us
01:14:29.020 yeah
01:14:29.740 again profoundly
01:14:32.880 unserious people so
01:14:34.800 that's
01:14:35.920 we're focusing on that right now
01:14:38.580 in our culture
01:14:39.880 but I think that also normalizes
01:14:43.280 their presence because
01:14:44.840 those are the bad ones if those are the bad ones
01:14:46.900 then the good ones must be over here we went through
01:14:49.000 this with the Muslims
01:14:50.040 let me ask you this I got into
01:14:53.160 a debate with someone
01:14:55.180 previously
01:14:56.300 they were trying to tell me
01:14:58.640 or tell the group how it was after 9-11 and i wanted to hear what your recollection is
01:15:05.720 as a canadian yes we're outsiders what the fuck do we know don't listen to us
01:15:10.540 but he was saying and this man was an american he was saying that after 9-11
01:15:16.520 for the like a year afterwards it was an open season on muslims in america there was muslim
01:15:23.840 exact fucking opposite of the reality i i remember the opposite first of all i remember george bush
01:15:30.540 immediately after 9-11 saying we're not at war with muslims we're at war with islamists
01:15:36.020 that narrative carried through and i remember i was given examples of like you know team america
01:15:43.740 came out like a year or two after 9-11 i think like it came out really fast after 9-11 and it
01:15:51.380 was already lampooning this sort of jingonistic uh american sentiment of like being such a patriot
01:15:59.000 like that that was immediately mocked i think the amount of pro-islam sentiment that was represented
01:16:06.020 through irony and sarcasm and lampoons is probably the reason that people who were not plugged in or
01:16:13.240 not very intelligent or weren't really paying attention get the impression that people were
01:16:17.920 anti-islam right because you you might if you if you would see all these lampoons and think oh the
01:16:22.240 reason they're lampooning is they're lampooning a thing that's a contemporary norm right which is
01:16:27.440 anti-islam except that it wasn't a contemporary norm it never was it i mean it was a little bit
01:16:33.080 as it fucking should be but uh not to the extent that they say it was i certainly remember that i
01:16:38.660 mean we were just uh like starting high school right i remember that as the first time in my
01:16:43.160 life where people were openly going to bat for muslims that's all i ever heard within the school
01:16:48.740 system and within canadian media was this outpouring of support and sympathy for muslims
01:16:55.040 in this trying time which is insane because i thought the americans were the victims but like
01:16:59.500 that's you know we're not even political at that age but we remember that was what i remembered i
01:17:05.220 remember and this doesn't serve whatever narrative whoever's claiming this is trying to push and i'm
01:17:11.160 not trying to you know zero in on the person i'm referring to here but i've seen this from other
01:17:16.240 people other influencers and creators and stuff saying that that the anti-islam sentiment in
01:17:22.120 america at the time was pushed by jews and i'm like fuck i don't even remember like aside from
01:17:27.280 gavin mcginnis and milo yiannopoulos and some of the alt-light guys like there's an anti-islamism
01:17:32.720 push on the you know post neocon right the alt-light whatever it might be but but i'm also
01:17:39.440 like it wasn't it wasn't mainstreamed like that yeah and that was you know that that was kind of
01:17:46.800 a concert just a very strictly conservative thing it wasn't even that big they are mainstreaming it
01:17:51.920 right now at least in the right wing it seems like the and it and i i would agree that it is
01:17:56.640 the jews it's one of those things where it's like i'm frustrated because it's the jews that are doing
01:18:01.200 it and so if you want to agree with it it's like oh you support is jews like no i i hate jews too
01:18:06.240 But this is one of the things the Jews happen to be right on is that Muslims fucking suck and should all be removed.
01:18:11.460 But I mean, it's like to the extent that there is anti-Islamism.
01:18:16.080 Yes, a lot of it does come from Jews, but that's not to say that this exists throughout society.
01:18:21.700 Largely, it certainly didn't then. And even to the extent that it exists now, it's not that big.
01:18:26.240 It's kind of focused on the like the not even the right wing, but like the far essentially the far right.
01:18:31.740 right i don't think you'd you'd be hard-pressed now to find a typical right-wing boomer who would
01:18:38.440 like not privately but like in a crowded room say yeah fuck muslims like you you know what i mean
01:18:44.380 it's not something that people are comfortable with talking it would have been more likely back
01:18:49.140 then and like i actually looked at the numbers i looked it up and i was looking for quite some time
01:18:55.280 Like, what are the numbers of not only convictions, but reported cases of every type of assault, including, like, verbal harassment and reported vandalism?
01:19:09.200 And I remember it was something like 800 reported cases for the entire nation for, like, a full year after 9-11.
01:19:16.600 And I'm like, that's very low.
01:19:18.560 That's nothing.
01:19:20.920 Considering what happened, and that's including everything, and that's just reported cases.
01:19:25.280 it doesn't even matter if it even happened and so the individual i was talking to was saying it's
01:19:30.800 like no like it was it was tolerated but it was rare that's what he said and i said i don't know
01:19:36.480 what that means like something is accepted and encouraged but it just doesn't happen
01:19:42.400 it would be the case if there was a huge increase in anti-muslim violence and then it was endorsed
01:19:49.280 if it was rare but it was not tolerated that would actually be more indicative of the fact
01:19:54.080 that it was a widely held belief it was just being oppressed the fact that it was he's claiming it
01:19:59.040 was tolerated but rare proves that it was not widely held because if it was a tolerable belief
01:20:04.160 and yet nobody acted on it then clearly not many people held that belief did they
01:20:08.720 so that's just a stupid thing to say and i remember like because then you would if you
01:20:15.040 enter into their belief system you would need to also believe that it just changed one day
01:20:22.240 so like randomly there was a heel turn that we accepted violence against
01:20:28.080 Muslims and then one day it shifted and now we have what we have now because I
01:20:32.380 remember even years after 9-11 during the Charlie Hebdo attacks you still got
01:20:37.540 the sentiment that well they shouldn't have drawn Muhammad like you know how
01:20:42.100 they are like every subsequent terrorist act that was rocking Europe with the
01:20:48.280 pulse nightclub shooting everything in every single act of Muslim violence the
01:20:53.920 mainstream media was so fast to say that's nothing to do with Muslims okay
01:20:58.420 you know I mean so I'm like so then what happened so we hated Muslims and we were
01:21:02.980 beaten up in the street and then what in like 2015 we just stopped or maybe it
01:21:08.860 was actually just like that the entire time that that was my case yeah and then
01:21:13.660 it's just gotten worse and worse and worse but it's we've mythologized this completely
01:21:19.300 concocted version of the past where it's like no we used to be really really bad well like why do
01:21:25.220 you believe that i remember it i remember again living in canada but being pretty tuned in to the
01:21:33.080 culture at the time and like even when they wanted to build a mosque near ground zero like that was a
01:21:40.340 big issue like a lot of people didn't want it but even the media was like well who cares you know
01:21:45.820 what who are you to say that they can't build them off like that was still up for debate and it wasn't
01:21:49.860 even that long anyway let's just let's just assume it happened around then anyway i just wanted to
01:21:56.200 run that by you because uh that sounded crazy to me but i need someone else to let me know because
01:22:04.260 i'm dealing with zoomers every single day who just don't know that time that has they didn't
01:22:09.620 live through that yeah i'm not saying that like we suffered but i just i were i do vividly remember
01:22:15.140 what it was like at that time and for everyone after our generation it's just kind of hypothetical
01:22:20.740 it's just you if you spend all your time on x or any other platform you're just getting
01:22:28.040 fourth hand information a recollection of a recollection of a recollection you know i mean
01:22:33.080 it's it's just you know simulacra of nostalgia where it's like like you're listening to a guy
01:22:40.180 who's just listening to someone who's just listening to someone describe what they think
01:22:44.740 9-11 was like so this isn't even a copy of a copy anymore this is like it's like the back rooms it's
01:22:53.080 like you're you're generating a version of like a memory of a dream or something yeah yeah and
01:23:00.260 people like i got into not an argument but a conversation with someone in our community
01:23:06.660 named uh samus h2 and uh what are we talking about hold on let me think
01:23:14.360 i think we were talking about the jay dyer thing um because uh i just i made a joke about his he
01:23:24.000 hates the city of london he hates you know britain essentially and i'd made a joke about that
01:23:32.080 and uh by some direction or another we he came to the point that uh you know
01:23:39.920 having these narratives like he was saying nominalism is to blame for transgenderism
01:23:46.960 if you trace all the developments back through democracy to the french revolution through all
01:23:53.200 that stuff trace all the way back it started with nominalism that's where things started going wrong
01:23:59.040 and so you blame the worst excesses of modernity on that and i was saying you know i i don't like
01:24:07.120 these and i use this phrase very carefully reductive narratives because you can visualize
01:24:12.560 that just like a line with dots on it like this leads to this leads to this is very very linear
01:24:18.880 and then but the problem is that you pick the development of nominalism you're blaming
01:24:25.120 martin luther for that like you're trying to blame like the schism you're trying to blame
01:24:29.620 protestantism for all this shit but i'm like why stop there you could go back further in fact this
01:24:37.500 is what even bronze age pervert did for costan almerio like he goes back to the greeks and he
01:24:43.880 says like this is where you hear that christianity is to blame not just you know a corruption of
01:24:50.440 christianity but christianity itself and if you want to you can go back even further than that
01:24:55.560 you can go back into prehistory to blame find a pinpoint the true creation of individualism
01:25:04.520 right that predates christianity predates greece like like you can actually just go back as far
01:25:12.280 as you fucking want really um so why stop anomalism and so and everyone has their point that they like
01:25:21.080 everyone has their starting point for what caused what was the first domino to fall that led us here
01:25:27.560 and i just said i have no use for these narratives because it is too reductive and he was saying
01:25:32.280 i'm trying to steal man's position here but he was saying that well we love narratives we love
01:25:37.720 abstracting time we love i i said he's like you draw a straight line between these things
01:25:44.120 these events i said well yeah you can you can connect them because you put them side by side
01:25:49.320 and drew a line through them that's just something you did or he did like but you know it's it i think
01:25:54.280 it's more of like a matrix of things like you can chart the not only the development of idea but the
01:26:01.640 reactions to the idea and how you get a dot like every single innovation has like a dialectical
01:26:08.620 response where there's reactions to it that eventually synthesize everybody it's actually
01:26:13.060 not a straight path and you can see it's this very very crooked line with branches springing
01:26:19.140 off of it like liberalism led to both communism and fascism that's interesting it's it's it's
01:26:24.900 like that all the way down the line but he was saying that no we need it can serve our purposes
01:26:30.140 And I said, yeah, but then you could just make shit up, man.
01:26:33.820 Like at a certain point, like if you're playing that fast and loose with history, why not just make it all up?
01:26:40.360 Just make up events, make up people.
01:26:43.340 Why not?
01:26:44.440 You know what I mean?
01:26:45.020 Like if it's just to serve a current narrative, I have to believe that there's something called the truth.
01:26:53.080 There has to be the truth of the matter.
01:26:56.160 And it's going to be very complex.
01:26:57.740 And it will be very narratively unfulfilling.
01:27:00.140 right you're just looking for something that's symmetrical and neat yeah and and this is and
01:27:06.520 we'll just jump right into the review of the book now because this relates to it and it relates to
01:27:12.840 the previous book we did the postmodern condition and i hope it was made clear in that review and i
01:27:20.400 tried to really highlight it with the clips that i showed that when i was talking about narratives
01:27:26.600 what i don't like about that book it was almost a defense of post-modernism in the sense that
01:27:33.920 it was rejecting the scientific approach of finding a universal truth and he was saying that
01:27:41.780 you know trying to universalize things creates these grand narratives that are too symmetrical
01:27:49.260 too streamlined too simple and they don't describe the world like i understand that and
01:27:53.760 many of us will recite that every single day. But he was saying the reaction to that was
01:28:00.560 postmodernism, which was that there's discrete truths. You have your own truth. You can speak
01:28:07.200 your own truth. Where have we heard that before? So that there is no truth. There's just truths
01:28:14.140 that are circumstantial or particular. And I don't like that either. You know, I understand,
01:28:20.360 you know the drive towards universalizing every idea or every concept that can lead us astray but
01:28:27.180 there still has to be a truth it is literally mom saying but we have truth at home that's what this
01:28:33.500 is like you can't afford or be bothered to find the actual thing but don't worry sonny we have
01:28:40.900 we have truth at home well and this is what i always describe to people and they this is why
01:28:44.800 they don't like talking to me you understand where they say you know what's the top of the
01:28:49.340 pyramid? What's the main thing? What caused all the problems? Because what they want is an easy
01:28:54.200 fix. And I would say, and we've discussed this at length on the show before, but the historical
01:29:00.880 period we inhabit is the intersection of a great many forces that are persecuting you. And they
01:29:08.860 don't all share the same mother. And so we can name a few. Again, I've said this so many times
01:29:15.580 before but we talk about uh birth rates we talk about obesity a lot of these things are connected
01:29:22.440 why are people so obese even though they seem to be working out more than they ever did
01:29:28.460 in the past few many generations and they seem to be laser focusing on their diets when they
01:29:36.320 ever did before but so and eating smaller portions eating healthier food than boomers ever did they
01:29:42.900 a fucking throat TV dinners Salisbury steak that steak for breakfast and
01:29:48.300 ship so what's going on but it's the SSRIs in the water it's the birth
01:29:53.100 control in the water it's the lithium in the water it's all that stuff and they
01:29:57.960 talk about the prevalence of feminism as well and also all those environmental
01:30:04.200 could the chemicals in the water you can chart the rise in obesity and in my
01:30:11.160 view based on the numbers i've seen with this falling sperm count and falling testosterone
01:30:16.520 in men people think these are different things they're all the same thing and then there's
01:30:21.000 feminism feminism is its own thing and in fact with sex and culture the book by jd unwin we made
01:30:26.840 the case that you know feminist agitation predates everything like that's really the political
01:30:34.360 application of the of men versus women which is outside of politics right and so once you start
01:30:41.960 kind of telling what is what is individualism what is democracy what is liberalism what like
01:30:49.160 all of these things can you blame it all on christianity no you can't that's that's reductive
01:30:54.360 it's silly it's an unserious position but there's there's a great many forces at work creating the
01:31:01.400 circumstances that you're living in and so but that that we're trying to map that out
01:31:07.640 i have no use for the top of the pyramid i have no use for the three act plot structure of history
01:31:16.440 which is what people are searching for because i think it's going to be an easy answer
01:31:20.040 and i'm just here to tell you that might feel good to draw out in your head it might have it might
01:31:27.640 feel good to talk about it with people like i found it i found where it all went wrong i'm
01:31:34.040 just telling you it's not real you're wasting your time do you want to fix this or not
01:31:40.200 do you want to know the truth or not i'm not saying i have it but i think we're getting close
01:31:44.680 i think we have a shape of it and if you think the shape is a line you're lost you're done you've
01:31:50.520 been anesthetized you got your you got your little your little thing that makes perfect sense that
01:31:55.560 You can kind of trade them with your friends, but you can't you can't do anything with it
01:32:00.680 It doesn't describe reality doesn't describe the world. So why the fuck you're just having fun
01:32:05.840 You're having fun with your guys in a chat. That's okay. You're allowed to do that, but make no mistake
01:32:10.720 You're not going to figure anything out and you're not going to be
01:32:14.460 Preparing for any of the action that's going to need to be taken to address these issues
01:32:19.600 Because you get so far you're blaming normalism suck my fucking dick
01:32:23.420 fucking blow me retard you're saying actually it's this idea oh yeah what are you gonna do
01:32:29.200 with the concept can you slit a concept's throat what are you gonna do about it what are you gonna
01:32:34.700 what are you gonna do about anomalism you're gonna rewind time you're gonna work it back
01:32:39.780 and rip up all the books fucking die jay dyer appropriate there it is brought it right back
01:32:48.380 around there it is so i read this book that's building off of the post-modern condition
01:32:55.620 that i did like but i i think i reject the premise that all narratives are of equal value
01:33:04.400 it's very egalitarian it's very lateral in that sense and i don't like i still maybe it's it's
01:33:11.620 just my my silly deranged anglo tendencies but there must be a truth of the matter no matter
01:33:17.520 how complex it is which is what i was just saying the conflict of interpretations going deeper
01:33:23.920 into this idea of hermeneutics and judas of course is i hardly knew her hermeneutics
01:33:34.000 hermeneutics boy are my arms you gotta put a you gotta put a verb before you gotta say study
01:33:39.600 hermeneutics but i hardly know her it's it's i heard people talk about it but i never really
01:33:47.200 understood what they meant by kind of like nominative determinism but if I had to describe
01:33:54.760 it to someone who doesn't know what the fuck I'm talking about because none of you do I would say
01:33:59.440 it's like it's and there's a better way to phrase this of course but it's the study
01:34:05.700 or the science of trying to truly understand a text and what do we mean by that well I think
01:34:15.840 everyone's aware of the problem of translations the crisis of intersubjectivity the idea if
01:34:22.900 something was written 400 years ago and is written in a different language or an older version of
01:34:29.240 english now you can translate it as much as you want oh here's a better way of saying it how many
01:34:33.840 watch anime do you have any opinions on localization yeah i bet you do was the idea of
01:34:42.320 like when you're translating something oftentimes if it's a really old distant ancient language
01:34:51.240 they're using words and phrases that have no direct translation or it otherwise doesn't
01:34:58.080 capture fully what they're saying but then even across cultures now like if you were to translate
01:35:04.420 something from Japanese to English there's so much hidden context they don't account for that
01:35:10.580 you would need to be japanese to understand little inflections little contextual cues that
01:35:17.540 you'll you can translate it literally but it'll something will be lost so this is true even
01:35:22.980 reading english texts written by americans or canadians from say 75 or 100 years ago right
01:35:29.700 you're always missing a little piece of the cultural context and the farther you go the
01:35:33.220 more you're missing yeah so hermeneutics is like are we really getting to the truth of what's being
01:35:39.380 said if we don't have all of that context like how can we actually fully understand what is being
01:35:45.460 said in this text and of course people will cite the bible like is this really the word of god is
01:35:52.180 have these translations robbed it of something maybe even robbed it of a pretty literal meaning
01:35:57.460 depending on the translation you're looking at said that a text is always something more than
01:36:03.860 than a mere sequence of sentences, all on an equal footing and separately understandable.
01:36:10.120 As we said this morning, a text is a whole, a totality, and therefore the relation between
01:36:15.200 wholes and parts, between wholes and parts, requires a specific kind of judgment for which
01:36:21.740 Kant gave the theory in the third critique. Concretely, the whole appears as a hierarchy
01:36:28.380 of topics, of primary and subordinate topics, and the reconstruction of the text as a whole
01:36:35.000 necessarily has a circular character in the sense that the presupposition of a certain
01:36:40.920 kind of whole is implied in the recognition of the parts, and reciprocally it is in construing
01:36:47.020 the details that we construe the whole.
01:36:50.060 There is no necessity and no evidence concerning what is important and what is unimportant,
01:36:56.160 what is essential and what is unessential
01:36:59.220 the judgment of importance
01:37:01.440 there is a guess
01:37:03.340 you know
01:37:04.800 a big controversy with the release
01:37:07.520 of that new Christopher Nolan
01:37:09.140 Odyssey movie
01:37:10.020 it was based off of a
01:37:13.080 very particular translation of the Odyssey
01:37:15.300 by some woman
01:37:16.920 who took extreme
01:37:19.100 liberties with some of the translations into
01:37:21.160 English
01:37:21.720 she might as well have used the word incel in it
01:37:25.020 Like, they're doing side-by-side comparisons where she's, let's say, editorializing the definitions there to fit what she thinks modern audiences need to hear.
01:37:34.960 But imagine that every step along the line.
01:37:39.000 And so, like, do you have – but how do you do that?
01:37:42.000 How do you get the entire context of something from reading it?
01:37:45.440 Like, do you have to become a scholar of the entire history of whatever it is that you're researching?
01:37:51.220 or is it is there something in the language itself and that's really what i think this book
01:37:57.420 is getting into because some people say well so you just have to be hyper aware of like every
01:38:04.100 cultural cue that could be hidden in there it's like no but it starts at an even deeper level
01:38:10.460 that and then you start asking like well what is a word right what what is the function of a word
01:38:16.560 what's it trying to communicate, like what he, what the fuck is even
01:38:20.040 understanding? What are we doing when we understand something? So then you're also
01:38:25.740 asking, like what am I, what am I doing by trying to seek the truth? Like what is
01:38:31.620 that? What, what, what does it look like? What is it, how would I know it when I
01:38:34.740 found it? What does it mean to understand something? Like can I, can I, can I even
01:38:39.240 understand something pure? Right? It's, it's, or is everything kind of hidden
01:38:44.640 through language and interpretation and if i can't commute like i can absorb the truth but then i can
01:38:52.320 never communicate it to someone else that's kind of a crazy idea right like i actually you wouldn't
01:38:58.100 know how to code it the truth into communication because it's not just it's not just the the what
01:39:06.960 what a language is it especially english is so multifaceted and i'll just get into the book right
01:39:14.480 now and i won't be able to cover all of it and this is another one where it's easier to read it
01:39:20.720 than it is to recite it but i'll do the best i can um it's kind of summarized it here it says his
01:39:28.400 the author's signature is called the conflict of interpretations the name of the book
01:39:32.000 and it is by Paul Ricoeur so he says here the signature Paul Ricoeur's signature contribution
01:39:41.460 is the idea of a symbol's double meaning and the surplus of meaning in language so every word
01:39:50.440 possesses a certain opacity and richness language has a surplus of meaning overlapping interpretations
01:39:56.540 that make meaning overdetermined and equivocal recur offers a pluralistic dialectical hermeneutics
01:40:03.700 that keeps method like structuralism or psychoanalysis in permanent productive tension
01:40:10.800 with the desire for meaning the work of interpretation is to explicate the multiple
01:40:16.380 determination of symbols and tease out different interpretations by using a variety of frames of
01:40:21.220 reference or considering the text in different contexts so like he's got this idea of you know
01:40:28.460 some people in hermeneukes they want to cut through everything and they think that there's
01:40:33.380 like a truth hidden that's obscured by lack of context or language and he's really trying to
01:40:39.440 say like no you just need multiple different methods of approach to like intersect over this
01:40:45.980 thing and understand it like you'll never be able to it's like it's not like the the sentence
01:40:52.380 is there to carry truth beneath it you just need to like unclutter all the letters and get to the
01:40:59.060 truth it's like that's that's not what it is it's not like there's a platonic form of something
01:41:04.640 lurking beneath the language it's a lot more complex than that so he said the idea of like
01:41:10.740 trying to you need multiple interpretations to like even start to understand something because
01:41:17.080 that's what understanding is like it's not a dissection that that's what kind of what the
01:41:22.900 scientist or the structuralist would think it's like these are just blocks i can rearrange them
01:41:27.800 and i can extract the value from this and you know just like they make medicine right there's
01:41:34.060 got to be like a cold mathematical logic to understanding truth and there's not and again
01:41:39.580 And once I'm reading that,
01:41:40.600 like I never really considered any of that before.
01:41:43.580 You can say almost propagandistically
01:41:46.560 that I want to pursue the truth.
01:41:48.280 What the fuck do you mean by pursue the truth?
01:41:50.120 What do you think the truth is?
01:41:52.460 So I'm turning this on myself earlier,
01:41:56.300 saying like I want a system
01:41:57.680 that can figure out what the truth is.
01:41:59.820 What do you mean?
01:42:00.640 Do you just mean accuracy?
01:42:02.860 Of what value is accuracy?
01:42:05.860 You know what I mean?
01:42:06.560 Like that can also be contextual as well.
01:42:08.740 like is it a fool's errand even to try and understand history exactly as it was
01:42:15.060 you know this desire for a time machine why but what are you hoping to get like can you ever
01:42:22.260 really understand the past or is it just there to be fuel for whatever you are doing now
01:42:27.940 and that's a deep problem man because you know i was thinking about that as i was writing the
01:42:32.980 latest vanguards journal article about you know if you become historical you become less human
01:42:40.700 like napoleon or hitler any of our top guys it's like they say you become superhuman you become a
01:42:48.520 great man of history well kind of you stop being a man you start being an idea you're something that
01:42:55.160 can be appropriated and misremembered there's a great fear in that to me you know especially
01:43:03.180 let's take hitler who had no direct descendants he's he's owned by society he's owned by the
01:43:08.920 people who hate him certainly how many stories have been told by hitler but even with with every
01:43:13.000 year that passes he recedes into the darkness until becomes sort of just a a very vague concept
01:43:19.080 we have photos of course we've got stories and we have his autobiography but when you become
01:43:25.400 larger than life you become larger than human life become something else you become the subject of
01:43:33.720 interpretation so it's like like almost if if you become a part of history it it's like you
01:43:43.560 you leave the realm of accuracy in a sense you become just the subject of interpretations and
01:43:48.680 as long as human beings are interpreting it at all like there is no there's no platonic form of
01:43:57.300 truth that you can get to and do what with it put it on an operating table you know i mean like
01:44:03.020 you don't does anything i'm saying makes sense yes i yes it does so and he goes on here so i'm
01:44:10.960 going to start reading more from the book and uh everyone try and bear with me i know we gotta get
01:44:15.580 going soon but you know we're going to get through what we can i would recommend the book i like this
01:44:19.840 book i like this stuff but i said to a friend of mine theron who runs his own book club i've
01:44:27.320 mentioned before i said i've been reading several books on hermeneutics and i don't want to know
01:44:32.460 anything anymore that's what i told him but then i started saying but like have i ever known
01:44:38.320 anything like you go down this path you it starts pulling at the threads of everything
01:44:45.440 it starts you know because like why the fuck am i reading history what am i trying to get at it
01:44:51.740 can i ever know anything like can and then you're like no not really but to my friend's point to
01:44:58.060 samus's point samu's point and like that doesn't stop people from just appropriating historical
01:45:04.700 narratives for their own purposes but also being aware of that does something to it like we do that
01:45:11.660 with the full knowledge that we're doing it cynically like no one believes this like we're
01:45:17.140 treating we're treating history like it's like just spray paint like it's graffiti and i'm like
01:45:23.320 you know being aware of that i don't know it's something so much more mutated anyway let's go
01:45:29.880 back to this he says it says it's useful to recall that the hermeneutic problem was first raised
01:45:36.460 within the limits of exegesis that is within the framework of a discipline which proposes to
01:45:42.520 understand a text to understand it beginning with its intention on the basis of what it attempts to
01:45:49.540 say if exegesis raised a hermeneutic problem that is a problem of interpretation it's because every
01:45:55.780 reading of a text always takes place within a community a tradition or a living current of
01:46:01.460 thought all of which discuss presuppositions and exigencies regardless of how closely a reading
01:46:08.260 may be tied to the quid to that in view which the text was written in what way do these exegesis
01:46:15.700 debates concern philosophy in this way that exegesis implies an entire theory of signs
01:46:22.900 and significations as we see for example in saint augustine's did doctrina christiana such as the
01:46:29.860 first most primordial relation between the concept of interpretation and that of comprehension it
01:46:36.100 relates to the technical problems of textual exegesis to the more general problems of meaning
01:46:42.020 and language so that's what i liked about this he's breaking down understanding into interpretation
01:46:48.900 and also comprehension and also meaning and language because we we tend to speak of these
01:46:54.260 as all the same thing but like language is over here meaning is something that lives in the author
01:47:02.100 of because we don't subscribe to the death of the author here i think that people write things to
01:47:08.340 communicate an idea that they believe is important that lives in their head that's usually what
01:47:12.900 happens and to say that that's not important i think defeats the entire purpose it's just people
01:47:17.460 struggle with it or they're more comfortable making shit up as i said before but you know i
01:47:24.500 don't accept that so it says the hermeneutic problem is thus seen from the perspective of
01:47:30.900 psychology to understand for a finite being is to be transported into another life historical
01:47:37.860 understanding thus involves all the paradoxes of historicity how can a historical being understand
01:47:44.340 history historically these paradoxes in turn lead back to a much more fundamental question
01:47:50.340 in expressing itself how can life objectify itself and in objectifying itself how does it bring to
01:47:57.220 light meanings capable of being taken up and understood by another historical being who
01:48:02.340 overcomes his own historical situation a major problem which we'll find again at the close of
01:48:07.700 our investigation is thus raised the problem of the relationship between force and meaning between
01:48:13.300 life and the bearer of meaning and the mind is capable of linking meanings into a coherent series
01:48:20.580 and and that's the type of thing that really got my head spinning which is like you know we are all
01:48:27.140 sort of like how can heidegger has this idea of design which i mentioned in the previous
01:48:34.980 van garsternal article which is and i'm going to do a bad job describing it but he was trying
01:48:42.420 so much of philosophy is pulled from feet almost feeling and emotion or just experiences in the
01:48:50.500 world and so he was trying to describe this feeling of like curiosity almost or like the
01:48:56.860 spirit of discovery that which is like drawing you forward but it's not actually you it's it's
01:49:02.860 like something else just outside of you but it's sort of like again i'm doing a bad job describing
01:49:08.380 it but it's like when you talk about like a life force or something it's like how how can if if
01:49:14.860 you reach a mode of true understanding how and you you can understand like life itself how can you
01:49:22.300 like understand yourself at the same time do you have to become something other than human to
01:49:28.460 understand humans that is heidegger is not interested in trying to like pursue some
01:49:34.300 a metaphysical, noumenal, unphysical understanding of what being is before its manifestation in the
01:49:40.740 world. If you read being in time, it's incredibly apparent that he's looking at the world as a site
01:49:45.620 through which to understand what being is and how being is intimately connected to the world.
01:49:52.980 So Dasein in the text really means their being, being there. What does it mean to exist there?
01:49:59.180 he also uses this term to understand not just the possibility to be that is to exist itself
01:50:06.240 but to have the very ability to comprehend that being that is dasein is the being that is concerned
01:50:11.880 with its own being and this is what gives it its possibility to actually be at all in order to go
01:50:17.440 from non-being into being there must be some driving factor here something must push it into
01:50:23.440 being. And this is the very propensity for reflection itself, for drive to be itself.
01:50:30.800 It's taking this idea of like, what is it to understand something and breaking it down into
01:50:36.240 all its component parts and making me realize like, oh, I never really thought about what it
01:50:40.660 is to understand something. Does it just mean finding utility in it? That's what some people
01:50:46.020 say. Like, I understand this, so now I can use it to do what I want. But like, how deeply are
01:50:51.880 you understanding any of this right so he says the hermeneutic problem thus becomes a problem
01:50:58.240 of the analytic of this being design and this is what i was just talking about which exists
01:51:04.020 through understanding the long route which i propose also aspires to carry a reflection to
01:51:09.980 the level of ontology but will do so by degrees forever following successive investigations into
01:51:15.520 semantics of reflection but it's the design and that's one thing i always want to let people know
01:51:20.600 like when you're hearing all these words and you're hearing him describe this process this is
01:51:26.000 something you can do you can understand understand but you can do all this at home for free what what
01:51:33.940 is it to try and like read something understand it and think about it and ruminate on it and try
01:51:39.040 and dissect it in your head and like there's the he's describing like many of these philosophers
01:51:45.160 they're describing real world shit before you get into philosophy you may be inclined to believe
01:51:52.560 it's dealing with like the secret mathematics of existence and very rarely is it we talk about
01:51:58.240 fucking kierkegaard and so much of his writing was just about being sad he starts by saying i'm sad
01:52:05.820 well what does that mean that's it what what are the what is angst fuck i'm anxious and angsty
01:52:12.740 what is that let me write seven books on it you know let me just be and and and fucking have a
01:52:19.100 butler that that you know i get erections in front of we talked about oh no that's conch never mind
01:52:25.000 he's a guy who never got erections my bad um but like and this might be a grug brain interpretation
01:52:33.140 but i always found that so much of and this is why i like about philosophy that there is a very
01:52:39.140 human element so much of it can be you can see the germ of the idea was just with heidegger's
01:52:45.240 like what is curiosity what is what is it that's driving us to like want to understand things
01:52:51.500 that's fucking weird isn't it like that's how it started and it became this whole thing and even
01:52:57.400 now it's like like what is it to like think about like what is driving us to want to understand what
01:53:02.620 is understanding what do we even do when we communicate when we communicate are we trying
01:53:07.040 to get someone to understand us or are we almost communicating for ourselves and someone like do
01:53:14.940 we communicate in a way that's not supposed to be understood it's to transmit information
01:53:22.580 usable information are we wasting our time trying to understand in the context but we need to make
01:53:28.300 something if we find something that's so true it can be translated a hundred different times across
01:53:35.920 a million years and it still retains that essence and that's how you know something has the truth
01:53:43.680 maybe that's what it is why are we trying to communicate in such a way that it's out of you
01:53:49.840 see a word and it's out of the box and has all the meaning in it like no it should be contextual
01:53:54.640 and what survives that is the truth and you should know that going into it anyway so i'm
01:54:00.960 getting in the weeds on my own ideas i need to get we have to get going soon but um so he said yeah
01:54:07.120 the hermetic problem thus becomes the problem of the analytic of this being design and he called
01:54:12.560 it being uh and being in time was the name of i believe the book that heidegger wrote
01:54:18.080 um which exists and we're saying the long road i propose also aspires to i did that
01:54:22.480 um to assign a method to understanding is to remain entangled in the presuppositions
01:54:28.240 of objective knowledge and the prejudices of the kantian theory of knowledge but in order to
01:54:34.320 question oneself about being in general it's first necessary to question oneself about that being
01:54:41.040 which is the there of all being about design and about that being which exists in the mode
01:54:47.040 of understanding being and that's whenever i was reading about design it was like it's a being
01:54:52.560 or spirit of total understanding which is a strange way you know and this is
01:54:59.040 you know i i don't i haven't gone so deep on heidegger that i could lecture for an hour about
01:55:06.320 it but sometimes when i hear that stuff maybe it's a mistranslation but i i'm always nervous
01:55:13.000 when we start talking about sort of these egregorian spirits and stuff like it's it's like
01:55:18.580 it's an understanding spirit that's driving us all forward i'm like i don't know maybe i'm too
01:55:24.100 rationalistic but a lot of it's too just abstract i'm like i don't know what that what does that
01:55:29.060 mean it sounds like you're like you're trying like we're trying to capture an idea here and
01:55:33.460 we're communicating in such a weird way um it's like a being that exists in the mode of understanding
01:55:41.140 understanding is thus no longer a mode of knowledge but a mode of being a mode of that
01:55:46.180 being which exists through understanding so that's like the science like it's it's almost
01:55:51.020 like a zen-like state where you can like fully understand something but you need to enter into
01:55:56.460 a zen-like state which is like either having no presuppositions or being like total presupposition
01:56:02.400 because he like he the whole title of conflict of interpretations is that the conflict can't
01:56:08.140 be avoided and like i was saying in that vanguard journal article about hagel and this is what so
01:56:14.920 many subsequent leftists and marxists have been trying to reconcile it's that you know there is
01:56:22.180 no synthesis you've got thesis antithesis and they're supposed to combine into a synthesis right
01:56:28.780 but like with slavo zizek and others like oh there is no synthesis it's just conflict
01:56:34.720 things are in conflict and things aren't resolved right and and we think because something isn't
01:56:40.800 synthesized or resolved that makes it less true and it's like no no no like it just is it's
01:56:46.260 conflict everything's conflicting there's no perfection there's no perfect like grand unified
01:56:52.100 theory of understanding all we've got is these like different theories to try and interpret things
01:56:58.140 and it's it's the layering of those interpretations that kind of creates a meta analysis of the
01:57:04.620 interpretation which is itself another layer to everything but it's it's again not saying that
01:57:10.480 beneath it all there's just a truth that we can like get and absorb and understand we need to
01:57:16.260 have all these processes and and like i don't know like you you can never you can work your
01:57:22.100 way towards being a being of full understanding i guess but i don't know i i think that's that's
01:57:30.160 that's like an interesting idea to try and describe you know the state of being and when
01:57:36.100 you trying to understand and stuff but like it's it's always going to be beyond your reach
01:57:40.860 anyway um we didn't get even to discuss much of this book right now maybe i might
01:57:46.720 merge it with the next one which might be even broken down into two different
01:57:52.680 episodes because it's so long uh the other one that i read was truth and method
01:57:59.160 um so this is just gonna be one big long study of hermeneutics and me struggling to explain it
01:58:07.680 in a way that makes sense um what are your thoughts on what i've said so far uh fascinating
01:58:14.180 like i'll just say this here he says the purpose of all interpretation is to conquer a remoteness
01:58:19.900 a distance between the past cultural epoch to which the text belongs and the interpreter himself
01:58:25.560 By overcoming this distance, by making himself contemporary with the text, the exegete can
01:58:31.900 appropriate its meaning to himself. Foreign, he makes it familiar, that he makes it his own.
01:58:38.040 It is thus the growth of his own understanding of himself that he pursues to his understanding
01:58:43.240 of another. Every hermeneutics is thus, explicitly or implicitly, self-understanding by means of
01:58:50.080 understanding others. So I do not hesitate to say that hermeneutics must be grafted onto
01:58:55.020 phenomenology not only at the level of the theory of meaning expressed in the logical investigations
01:59:00.220 but also the level of the problematic of the comedo as it unfolds from cartesian meditation so
01:59:07.020 just to end on that by saying like the hermeneutical problem can't just be about
01:59:14.100 understanding text that's what you're trying to get now design and all this other shit which is
01:59:18.680 like to understand text it's like you have to include everything from language to psychology
01:59:25.320 to your own self-awareness and your relationship with the text and the story of you in the text
01:59:30.420 and the story of the writer and like it's all part of the same thing and pay close attention
01:59:35.740 to what words you're using that could in fact be like a russian doll of so many other words that
01:59:43.660 you've never thought of like if you thought about what understanding something is i know this might
01:59:48.960 sound like rambling to some but we need to get going now um so thank you you said it made sense
01:59:55.840 thank you very much yes perfect loved it all right buddy all right i'll talk to you later yeah have
02:00:00.700 gonna all right i'm excited to speak to this fella here i'm here with randy hillier this is a bit
02:00:23.740 different than some of the people we talked to recently it's not he's not just an internet
02:00:27.560 weirdo this is a real man who's had a real career in politics so i want everyone to dust their
02:00:34.840 shoulders up put on a tie for this one pause this right now get dressed up for this because we've
02:00:40.600 got real people on the stage right now uh i am how would i best describe you i associate you
02:00:48.840 most directly with your advocacy during covet lockdowns but you've had an entire career
02:00:54.600 in mainstream politics primarily with the progressive conservative party of ontario
02:01:01.040 and then later on as independent and uh you this guy's got a wikipedia page i've got his
02:01:07.480 his party affiliation pulled up here we don't need to spend a lot of time on that because
02:01:11.360 there's more pressing things to talk about but i think you've got a very fascinating political story
02:01:18.020 from the perspective of someone in Ontario
02:01:20.940 representing the Lanark-Frontenac-Kingston region,
02:01:25.340 which is a region that I'm very, very familiar with.
02:01:27.740 Love the area.
02:01:29.000 So we probably have a bunch of the same reference points too.
02:01:31.460 But anyway, before we get too much on that,
02:01:33.040 thank you, Mr. Hillier, for meeting with me.
02:01:36.560 Are you a mister?
02:01:37.920 When someone retires as an MPP, do you get a special title?
02:01:41.040 I just ask people to call me Randy.
02:01:45.120 Randy? Okay.
02:01:46.480 I can do that.
02:01:47.300 I'm going to pull up a site here.
02:01:50.460 This is what some people are familiar with.
02:01:52.880 We're looking at No More Lockdowns Canada.
02:01:56.080 So maybe we start with this because Randy, actually, I'm going to throw him up right here too.
02:02:01.140 This is his X page.
02:02:03.520 Very active on social media.
02:02:06.220 Very funny.
02:02:07.280 Very interesting stuff.
02:02:08.880 Runs his own goddang community on here.
02:02:11.920 So unlike other retired MPPs, this is a man who's in relevant political spaces.
02:02:18.880 And that's how he came across my desk originally.
02:02:22.060 And then going back to here, this is No More Lockdowns Canada.
02:02:26.720 And maybe we start with this.
02:02:29.540 Tell people what this is all about.
02:02:31.600 You're one of the biggest mainstream names at the time during the trucker protests and during everything.
02:02:38.620 and even mentioned here in one post and uh the crown may have unlimited a pot of taxpayer dollars
02:02:46.060 you are still in court over this you are still fighting a legal battle over the covet protests
02:02:51.740 yes with all that set up tell us a bit about your experience with all that well well first off i've
02:02:58.460 been very much involved in the public scene for approximately 30 years now predating my time in
02:03:06.860 politics i started and formed a very um significant rural property rights group called
02:03:14.300 the landowners association here in lanark we were involved in many um protests inclusive including
02:03:22.460 things such as uh closing down queens park and parliament hill blockading wellington street etc
02:03:30.140 for many years, as well as I've had quite a number of opinion pieces published over the years
02:03:39.520 and operated a periodical magazine for a number of years as well and was in elected office for 15
02:03:49.240 years. No More Lockdowns is a group that I formed during COVID. I was the first elected
02:03:58.620 representative in canada to publicly condemn and oppose the mandates and the actions of our
02:04:08.620 government during that period of time and as a result i ran afoul of the law i was charged for
02:04:18.940 25 different times for violating the provincial law that prohibited public gatherings during
02:04:29.740 covid i defeated one all 25 of those charges or had them stayed or withdrawn and won a constitutional
02:04:38.620 battle on that question of peaceful assembly um but i'm still in court i still have nine criminal
02:04:46.300 charges from the uh truckers convoy in february of 2022 and i'm also in the supreme court
02:04:55.020 representing myself on the the constitutional question of a right to speedy trial so that's
02:05:03.580 a little bit of and no more lockdowns so i should add uh we were very um prolific and very prominent
02:05:12.060 during the COVID period of time, our big, one of our big endeavors was we produced,
02:05:20.060 distributed and delivered approximately 50,000 lawn signs across Ontario and to other parts of
02:05:29.980 the country as well. So for people who also opposed the mandates, they could put up a no more lockdown
02:05:38.460 down lawn sign in the front yard or in their living room window.
02:05:43.900 So do you believe that your status as a legitimate politician,
02:05:48.900 has that helped you or hurt you in the court proceedings, do you think?
02:05:52.880 Well, I don't know what you mean by a legitimate politician.
02:05:55.580 Is there such a thing?
02:06:00.100 You know, like, you know, I think we often fail in this regard
02:06:07.500 and we judge people by the labels or, you know,
02:06:15.500 rather than judging them on their actions.
02:06:18.760 So, you know, there are people in the political world that despise me.
02:06:25.660 There's people in the political world who enjoy what I've done,
02:06:30.940 just as there is in everyday public life.
02:06:34.520 there's people that like what I do
02:06:38.240 and there's people that hate what I do.
02:06:41.660 Do you feel like you're a true outsider
02:06:45.000 in mainstream politics,
02:06:46.520 knowing that you eventually ran as an independent,
02:06:49.520 but would you say that you've got a lot of friends,
02:06:52.640 maybe even people who secretly align with you
02:06:55.480 who are still MPPs or MPs
02:06:57.760 and just can't speak publicly?
02:06:59.100 Or do you feel like that entire system
02:07:01.000 is just full of opposition?
02:07:02.760 well that's you could do a story on that on its own i'll give you an example there was
02:07:10.860 at least a dozen people in the um ontario legislature that i knew at the time
02:07:19.180 who shared my views on the covid mandates the lockdowns mass the pcr tests um but
02:07:30.800 it took
02:07:33.360 about a year for
02:07:35.300 one or two others to
02:07:37.160 come out and speak publicly
02:07:39.200 about it.
02:07:42.620 And many
02:07:43.780 never spoke
02:07:45.620 publicly about what
02:07:47.440 their true beliefs were.
02:07:50.580 So,
02:07:51.480 you know,
02:07:53.120 in secret
02:07:54.700 and behind the scenes
02:07:56.920 and in the closet,
02:07:58.120 it they'll they'll they'll chat with me but um in public they won't um and in public there'll be no
02:08:06.700 recognition or whatnot like i have you know i was you know the number one pariah uh for being the
02:08:16.820 first to oppose um these measures and and that ended up with things like um the speaker and
02:08:26.880 the legislature censoring me preventing me from speaking um there was uh there was petitions from
02:08:35.400 all the municipal councils uh condemning me for my outspokenness but you know that is not
02:08:44.040 you know i was always uh offside with party politics yeah even while i was in the party i
02:08:51.300 like to frame it this way i was um well i was in the conservative party i would spend as much time
02:08:58.980 in the penalty box as i did on the ice with the conservative party because i would be quite i would
02:09:06.180 be just as critical of my own party as i was of the liberals or the ndp um and of course in partisan
02:09:14.100 politics your team is the virtuous and righteous and noble team and the other team is the evil
02:09:24.120 villains and and of course that is a entire fabrication and falsehood they're all corrupt
02:09:32.300 and the job and responsibility of a representative is to hold governments accountable on behalf of
02:09:42.160 the constituents so um so i would often get uh shunted to the back row or have my speaking time
02:09:52.240 removed or be removed from committees etc um but that's um um you know nowadays it's becoming
02:10:03.860 fewer and fewer to see um i guess a good term is probably mavericks um um you know it's i don't
02:10:14.920 think that's a derogatory so you think there's fewer mavericks now than when you were younger
02:10:20.980 oh for sure even in my time there were there were a couple of other mavericks like bill murdoch
02:10:27.900 from uh bruce gray and uh peter cormos from the ndp there was um you know um you know i would say
02:10:38.060 our canadian history is um um has quite a few mavericks uh interspersed in its uh political
02:10:47.580 history but uh but as the um parties have been um co-opted subverted and controlled by outside
02:11:00.220 influences um the tolerance for mavericks are uh has become less and less and they are
02:11:09.820 essentially extinct now well especially in canada because i look southward towards america even now
02:11:17.100 even within the party structure i there's people like tulsi gabbard there there's kind of i hate
02:11:23.740 to even call them mavericks but there's people who go against the grain you got trump's uh
02:11:29.660 thomas bassey would be the most credible example of a maverick at the moment and
02:11:34.540 and we see what's happened to him and it seems to me that it's the nature of the canadian system
02:11:39.580 because i remember just off the top of my head we were talking about this before we went live
02:11:43.980 i knew people who were working inside the liberal party of canada around the time when justin trudeau
02:11:50.860 was first elected and there was a lot of mps and mpp's that weren't very happy about that and they
02:11:56.900 were either pushed to the margins or they just got rid of them that you had to fall in line behind
02:12:02.080 this guy and i i have to believe that i don't know if it was like that the entire time but
02:12:07.520 the way our party structure is run it seems to be more interested in excising those people like i
02:12:13.100 know who in the conservative party right now is really going against anything pier polia is saying
02:12:19.420 and it would be so easy to go against what he's saying but nobody is i wonder if that's just the
02:12:24.780 nature of the system well that's how the need that's how the system has evolved and of course
02:12:29.740 yes like jody wilson raybold was a maverick um she didn't want to protect a wealthy uh corporate
02:12:40.780 donor um to the liberal party snc lavalin um um so uh she got the hefo same with uh
02:12:50.940 jane philpot um so you know we we've seen this throughout um canadian history but but it it is
02:13:00.620 a function as as our political parties have um and and not just our political parties are the entire
02:13:09.420 institution of democracy and its subsidiary institutions have been fully captured by the
02:13:20.600 wealthiest families and the wealthiest people in our country. And our institutions and our
02:13:29.700 political parties now serve and obey the wealthy and only the wealthy and you know a good example
02:13:40.100 of that was just last week with um mark carney bailing out um a handful of billionaires in bc
02:13:51.640 by buying their vacant, unsold, unwanted condos, you know,
02:13:58.380 and the average price the Canadian taxpayer is paying for it
02:14:03.640 is, you know, $1.5 million per condo.
02:14:09.720 So, you know, like, this is obvious that our entire institution
02:14:18.680 that we call democracy or representative democracy uh is is not representative not of
02:14:26.520 the voters and it is captured by those um wealthiest individuals in canada i wonder if
02:14:35.080 they're going to roll this out in toronto next because when i lived in toronto for many years
02:14:40.200 and there was such a condo boom there and everyone knew no one's no one's living in most of these
02:14:46.440 they were just purchased by at best foreign investors and they sit vacant or they're trying
02:14:51.080 to airbnb them to try all these different schemes but there has to be so much money bound up in that
02:14:57.160 right now and if you look at the toronto skyline compared from like 2010 to now it's half condos
02:15:05.320 and they're built like garbage if you've ever been inside and like like most of them are just
02:15:09.080 unfinished and they're unfinished after six years so like this this is all some kind of scam bubble
02:15:15.080 But I see something like this in BC.
02:15:18.100 I'm like, oh, they're doing this to see,
02:15:20.080 to test what the tolerance is for something like that.
02:15:24.080 Well, that's another failure.
02:15:25.700 So just as our political institutions have been captured by wealth,
02:15:34.180 I would say the voters have been captured through dependency on government.
02:15:41.800 So this is why you're not seeing the blowback and the pushback against these, what should be considered scandalous, corrupt and reprehensible uses of public dollars and policies like censorship and digital ID and surveillance.
02:16:08.620 you know a huge segment of the Canadian population has become absolutely dependent
02:16:19.760 on government for their needs as you know as well as in many cases not just their needs but also
02:16:31.000 for their employment or income um so people who are dependents are not going to bite the hand
02:16:42.320 that feeds them um you know they're so both sides of our political institution are are captured in
02:16:51.940 my yeah this condo one is especially egregious because people will read this and they'll get
02:16:58.820 trauma pangs of the 2008 housing crisis because it sounds similar but it's not uh that that was
02:17:07.140 a completely different financial catastrophe this if we had to describe what happened too many
02:17:12.440 companies got too greedy too fast built a bunch of condo builders that no one's in by the way
02:17:18.260 because you're probably thinking oh my god people are going to end up on the street no that's the
02:17:20.840 thing no one's going to end up on the on the street because no one's living in these they're
02:17:25.380 They're getting paid out because the investors were just silly.
02:17:30.620 They got too silly and drunk.
02:17:32.040 It's like during COVID, everyone you know got into house flipping
02:17:36.220 and they took on massive loans because they wanted to make easy cash now.
02:17:41.040 So this is like if you can't let this fail, then what can you let fail?
02:17:46.500 This doesn't affect the little guy.
02:17:48.680 This doesn't affect people like old ladies being kicked out of their houses or anything.
02:17:53.260 people no real persons living in these these cardboard and spit made atrocities so i just
02:18:01.840 look at and this is again i hate to talk spiritual but they do kind of test this stuff out because
02:18:06.780 if no one cares about this then you can you can just throw money wherever you want yeah so it's
02:18:13.660 just you know um when there is there you know this is a bailout um and a backstop for the banks
02:18:26.460 as much or more so than it is for the billionaire developers like and that was also the case in
02:18:34.460 2008 it's you know the banks are the ultimate um they're at the top of our food chain and
02:18:45.300 and they're the ones who ultimately um um everybody serves um these days and not surprisingly we have
02:18:55.460 a former banker now in charge of our um democracy uh mr carney so but you know the commercial real
02:19:05.000 estate and the real estate markets um took a big hit um subsequent to covid um and you're right a
02:19:15.040 lot of people got into the market uh buying in this feeding frenzy as we flushed the the the
02:19:24.680 money out the door with a $400 billion deficit in Canada for COVID, that money had to go
02:19:33.580 somewhere. It went into asset inflation largely and real estate asset inflation to the greatest
02:19:42.560 extent. But at the same time, the demand for things like shopping malls, office buildings
02:19:50.820 with remote work the demand subsided um on on those so um you know there is the last thing
02:20:02.460 carney is going to do is allow the banks to take a big hit um you know you're not going to get
02:20:11.220 bailed out mr dimes if you don't pay your mortgage on your house but let's not forget
02:20:17.580 The mortgage on your house is more than likely CMHC-insured.
02:20:22.960 The banks are insured against a loss on your mortgage
02:20:28.700 through the taxpayer as well.
02:20:32.840 But as a side note, these billionaires won't have to sell
02:20:38.380 their private art collections, and thankfully they won't have
02:20:42.160 to sell their yachts or private jets.
02:20:45.980 Well, it's interesting you say all that,
02:20:47.380 because even as i'm scanning the headlines right now i think that narrative is missing from the
02:20:52.780 larger discourse because everyone's talking with developers like i just did i'm sure of course
02:20:56.900 there's an aspect of it but i don't see really anyone talking about banks unless it's like i
02:21:02.540 want to hear bailouts should be born by banks says mark carney but i think people are just missing
02:21:07.580 that dimension to it and and you're singing the song that a lot of our listeners like i got some
02:21:13.240 friends who are big followers of your accounts uh guys by the name of cryptos and black horse
02:21:20.680 and a ben ben fleming guys guys who just made a real sideshow of bullying uh erin o'toole
02:21:30.760 just try because i was actually going to mention that um at some point but um maybe i'll just ask
02:21:37.160 Now, just going back to COVID momentarily, I've noticed people like Aaron O'Toole, and let me see if I can just pull him up here so people don't know him.
02:21:47.440 He's very active on social media, and he's an interesting example of someone from the mainstream conservative establishment who's engaging with all the freaks that I have as friends.
02:21:59.540 And he's, you know, defending the role of the Conservative Party and the mainstream political establishment during COVID.
02:22:07.500 But he's just not being quiet about it.
02:22:09.840 And the consensus among some of the more fringe figures is that this is just the Conservative Party trying to figure out how to engage with the COVID narrative again without admitting culpability.
02:22:22.540 But I do wonder, when you look at someone like Aaron O'Toole, you'll need to talk about him specifically, but let's talk about other Conservatives.
02:22:28.560 do you think they've come around even a little bit to your advocacy or maybe rethinking their
02:22:36.760 role during COVID? Or do you think your life's just not going to get any easier?
02:22:41.580 No. So listen, you know, Aaron O'Toole may be out of elected office, but he's not away from
02:22:48.180 the public trough. And this is what most people fail to see or don't make the connection, I don't
02:22:54.580 think well between people in office and out of office most elected representatives when they
02:23:03.020 leave office and i would say this is in about 90 percent still remain dependent on the political
02:23:12.260 system for their incomes. So they will never say boo or anything bad against their institution or
02:23:26.140 the party for fear that they will not get the patronage position. And let me give you a brief
02:23:33.580 story. And I will use some names here. When I was speaking out against COVID, and I was being
02:23:42.660 lambasted in the press and elsewhere for my opposition, I phoned up various
02:23:50.860 former colleagues, and maybe I shouldn't use their name, but it wouldn't be fair to them,
02:23:59.700 they're not here to respond but one was a former um leader of the conservative party
02:24:06.780 uh who was now a senator uh and who was uh um no he had left being a senator he was
02:24:17.060 head of a significant crown corporation and i knew he opposed covid like i did and i asked him i said
02:24:25.460 Bob would you come on out and speak on my behalf and he said you know Randy uh if I did that you
02:24:32.040 know Dougie would probably take away my patronage position at this crown corporation and it's worth
02:24:38.000 a couple hundred grand a year um and then I called up another former leader uh and I said you know
02:24:45.460 Tim would you would you come out I know that you were opposing this stuff as well um and you know
02:24:52.800 and he says well randy i'd really like to help you but you know i'm the head of a a good big
02:24:58.400 industry group and we're uh we're dependent on having good relationships with doug ford
02:25:06.160 so no i i i i'm going to hold my tongue um and then i called up another federal cabinet minister
02:25:14.240 uh and i said you know i know you're on side with me and he says well you know i'd love to help you
02:25:20.320 out but i'm a i'm a lobbyist for these particular industries and uh and i can't say too much or else
02:25:30.080 i'll probably lose my my um my income from these industry groups so this is pretty widespread i
02:25:39.200 assume right one could assume that every single retired politician of significance probably has
02:25:45.360 you know the golden handcuffs on them in one form or another right correct about i think it's about
02:25:51.640 90 percent um but have some or it's either completely dependent on a patronage position
02:26:01.600 or good graces or contracts or a significant portion of their income is derived from their
02:26:11.560 government relations uh and continued healthy friendly government relations so so it's a self
02:26:19.560 reinforcing uh um closed loop and that's why it's amazing like how many people in politics
02:26:31.320 will refuse to tell the truth about their time in politics um but it's for that very reason they
02:26:38.680 want to continue the um being at the trough yeah one would assume that the more successful they are
02:26:48.460 in politics and the higher they climb up the ladder the more indebted they are to this very
02:26:53.460 system the more they can be taken away from them because you have to assume that most of these
02:26:57.200 people have no skills they can't just you know they might be that the head of some think tank
02:27:03.700 or something but that's just yeah moving money around it's not that they can go run a company
02:27:09.380 but i don't know to erin o'too's entire background but it sounds like he spends a lot of time on x
02:27:14.660 he does so he's still like his dad was in the legislature with me um um and uh and you know
02:27:26.020 he was a career military um um officer um and um you know government is you know he is dependent
02:27:39.780 on government and he's going to continue doing being nice and uh and being nice with the party
02:27:49.860 and get some gigs when it's a conservative's time at the trough.
02:27:58.900 It's interesting, before you had mentioned very briefly
02:28:02.400 these sort of wealthy families all throughout Canada,
02:28:06.460 and some people refer to them as holistically the business class here.
02:28:11.140 But I remember looking into it at one point, asking like,
02:28:14.700 oh, who are the billionaires, the political billionaires in Canada, right?
02:28:18.540 Who are the big families?
02:28:19.700 And if you actually look into it, I mean, there's hundreds, right?
02:28:23.420 But they don't come up.
02:28:24.400 And I remember I was asking, you kind of know the Molson family, you kind of know of the Loblaws.
02:28:31.500 But you have to think about it where it's like so many of them invest quite a bit of money making sure they're out of the press.
02:28:38.460 Once you see their names, you're thinking, oh, yeah, that family is like the people who run Rogers.
02:28:43.300 Rogers, these telecommunication empires that you just kind of never hear about them in the media at all.
02:28:48.660 But that's where the money is.
02:28:50.640 And what are they up to?
02:28:51.700 Are they just apolitical?
02:28:54.360 Well, Lord David Thompson, Canada's richest man.
02:28:58.580 Very few people know him.
02:29:01.380 But he is Canada's.
02:29:04.460 I think his family's got about $90 billion, you know, in the Westins and the Irvings and the Bronfmans.
02:29:12.460 You know, there you go.
02:29:13.560 The Bronfmans, who are the really the owners of Brookfield.
02:29:18.660 who happened, one of the Bronfmans is also the campaign chair
02:29:23.500 for Mark Carney.
02:29:29.940 And, like, this is a very incestuous loop.
02:29:36.280 And most Canadians have no idea who these people are.
02:29:42.460 But not only do they, you know, they also own our banks, right?
02:29:48.660 You know, now there's no single owner of a bank,
02:29:53.000 but these families will have large ownership stakes
02:29:58.800 and often started the banks like the Molson family.
02:30:03.720 They started, historically, they started the Molson Bank,
02:30:08.880 which then became the Bank of Montreal.
02:30:13.500 So, yeah, most people have no idea who these people are.
02:30:17.440 That's a great point that they name these banks after the cities that they're in, but that totally shields the actual families they usually start. It's not just that the city hall decided to start a bank one day. It was usually specific families that are still in large part control.
02:30:35.760 And a lot of Americans, when I explain this to them, our banking ecosystem is very different than what even in Europe they might be accustomed to.
02:30:44.160 And we only have like a handful of big banks that operate a lot more closely and exert, in my view, a lot more direct control over our financial affairs.
02:30:55.860 But maybe you have a different opinion.
02:30:58.560 No, that's true.
02:30:59.480 For most people, most people have not spent an ounce of time
02:31:08.020 even thinking of who owns a bank or it's just a complete opaque
02:31:13.520 and unknown black hole for them.
02:31:18.040 But it is the banks and the families who own the banks
02:31:23.720 who drive the system.
02:31:29.480 no absolutely and again it's the canadian business class i meant this was in an article
02:31:35.880 that i wrote that i shared with you that a lot of the um you know without getting too much of this
02:31:41.980 there's uh especially in the canadian nationalist scene right now there's a lot of hostility towards
02:31:47.120 america um some of it's deserved some of it goes a bit too far in my view i don't like to get
02:31:51.820 too deep i've got many american friends of course um but it is important for the canadian
02:31:58.640 identity movement to stand apart in some way. But there is a very porous border and a lot of
02:32:04.600 cross-border financial investment in our institutions. And the business class has
02:32:10.120 always, in my view, been the tip of the spear in either selling out or bringing in American money
02:32:17.180 occasionally to subvert Canadian national industry interests to America. And there's a long,
02:32:26.880 long history there so but anyway i feel like that's you know you're at where i'm at where
02:32:32.540 once you start pulling at the thread of one problem the entire damn country comes unraveled
02:32:38.780 like and here you are like in court still i think your next date is 2028 yeah my the earliest trial
02:32:46.920 that um that they could offer me once i i lasted the court of appeal um because i originally i had
02:32:56.280 all the charges stayed against me but then the crown appealed it um and the earliest date they
02:33:05.180 could offer me a jury trial in ottawa was uh may of 2028 so um we're back on deck there when we
02:33:15.660 were talking about erin o'toole um one of the questions was do you think people have or the
02:33:21.020 establishment let's call it that has come around to your views um do you do you see more people
02:33:27.060 back in the day you had some people you knew who wanted to say something but couldn't do you think
02:33:32.640 those people have come around more publicly have you received any support since then from those
02:33:37.380 people well in we've seen that in the states there's been far more people outspoken in the
02:33:45.120 states and willing to continue to pry and reveal the facts and the evidence that was obscured and
02:33:53.300 hidden from us during COVID. You know, like Chelsea Gabbard's recent revelation last week
02:33:59.400 about Fauci's and the intelligence services involvement with the cover-up of COVID.
02:34:11.600 um oh have you heard the latest the latest narrative sorry to interrupt you but i encountered
02:34:16.900 someone saying this because if you've watched the fauci story our position hasn't really changed at
02:34:23.860 all but their position has whereas before he was the patron saint of science then they began
02:34:30.360 accepting his involvement in this book the latest update i heard was well of course gain of function
02:34:36.480 research was happening under him but it was behind his back so he's that he has nothing to do with
02:34:41.840 i'm like what are you talking about so now now he's just a dummy now he's just a guy like i don't
02:34:47.600 i don't know what's going on forget all the evidence that he was involved but like that's
02:34:51.760 the latest cope yeah and this is i mean this is you're kind of seen as a coup not you specifically
02:34:58.400 but maybe but also us for even talking about this still tulsi gabber seen as a coup why are we still
02:35:05.040 talking about this and have you encountered that like it's kind of difficult to bring sure but this
02:35:10.660 is you know like we've seen this historically with all these scams all this corruption all
02:35:19.040 these cover-ups like you know why would you be talking about building seven that just fell down
02:35:27.500 all on its own without being hit by a plane uh with an hour after the other buildings fell down
02:35:35.480 over you know um charlie kirk or uh you know uh weapons of mass destruction that was a complete
02:35:45.400 uh hoax and cover-up in um in iraq or you know like you know again and i i'll put this back
02:35:54.660 Again, when people are dependent on an authority or on an institution for their needs and their well-being and their incomes, they are going to excuse and make excuses for the bad behavior of those institutions.
02:36:17.380 And I think with the whole do better, you should not reward a lot more often.
02:36:38.580 If you reward an individual, and that's what we're doing with our governments,
02:36:43.180 is we are not holding them accountable we're actually rewarding them for their their wrongdoing
02:36:52.120 um we're rewarding them for their corruption and they just get more brazen more outlandish
02:37:02.880 um and um and the scandals get bigger not less well and that's something we tell people that
02:37:12.300 the onus is on us to be outlandish and unreasonable because to bring it up again to drag everyone's
02:37:20.800 attention back to this thing you need to be kind of weird like us but you know there's that old
02:37:26.400 maxim you know the front page news they could lie on the french page but by the time they admit that
02:37:32.140 it was a lie the admission is buried days later on page six so you got to be the person ripping
02:37:38.080 over the paper to page six and putting it in people's faces and they don't want to see it
02:37:42.320 because you know that that would that would mean everything's on the table everything's culpable
02:37:48.000 and like you said if people you need to really hold people to account in an unreasonable way
02:37:53.440 sometimes because why wouldn't they go for that that's true for human beings that's true for
02:37:59.040 institutions that that if no one's and they'll say well what do you want us to do and this was
02:38:04.140 the same thing with the occupy movement this is any sort of movement like this give me someone
02:38:11.420 fired give me someone in jail but what the erano tools of the world are doing is coming out they're
02:38:16.920 saying look we all went crazy for a while and we're better now yeah that's that's a preposterous
02:38:24.860 that's the that's the only wrong answer that yeah we all went nuts but we learned our lesson like
02:38:30.040 Like, no one learns a lesson just on their own.
02:38:34.220 And you can't even tell me what you did wrong.
02:38:37.580 If you ask them, like, can you name a thing you would do differently?
02:38:40.280 They'll say no.
02:38:40.900 I'm like, that's the other wrong answer here.
02:38:43.040 So we're only in Canada.
02:38:45.620 I'm only aware of one current MP who is now tiptoeing into this,
02:38:55.180 that's dean allison who who has um brought out his allison inquiry uh and is going to do it at
02:39:04.220 parliament it's not a parliamentary committee or a parliamentary inquiry but it sort of has the
02:39:09.900 the look and the feel to it um and and he is a member of parliament who is uh going to do some
02:39:20.620 public hearings on vaccine injuries and um but it's interesting when you look at that
02:39:28.220 it is just conservative mp allison it is not uh the conservative party uh chaired by allison
02:39:38.220 doing this uh vaccine injury inquiry it's not the parliament of canada doing this vaccine
02:39:45.340 injury inquiry it's him on his own so i think you know um he's we're probably seeing
02:39:57.680 um you know i think this would be a probably a fair evaluation is uh dean allison probably
02:40:08.660 won't be running in the next election and he's decided that in this last term he will uh go out
02:40:17.800 and and do what he knows is the proper thing to do uh and they won't be able to um hurt him too
02:40:27.820 too much do you think this speaks and this is an uncomfortable topic for some but this speaks to
02:40:34.920 just the nature of the uh canadian people that they're just not ready to talk about this because
02:40:41.160 you look at the conservative party and they don't want to touch this but it could this could to my
02:40:46.760 mind this could be something they could really sink their teeth into because i believe that the
02:40:51.160 conservative party has always been struggling for what they actually represent other than just being
02:40:56.520 against whatever the liberals are proposing completely reactionary but what are you for
02:41:01.160 I'm like, this could be a topic for you guys, but the fact that they haven't embraced that tells me maybe their constituency, the conservative party donors and the people, they're not even willing to talk about this yet because that would strike too strongly at the entire system itself, and they're scared of that.
02:41:20.520 What do you think about that?
02:41:21.740 Well, I think we've got a few problems, but yeah, let me characterize.
02:41:28.460 i think this is a an important factor um most canadians were fully on side with the unlawful
02:41:42.860 illegal unconstitutional practices uh deployed during covet most you know um and i i don't think
02:41:55.180 canadians want to be reminded of their involvement in what happened um you know this is
02:42:06.220 you know i saw a great polling and and and i would say you know accurate and reflective polling
02:42:14.220 during covid and um and i and i know this for a fact the in july on july 1st when we brought in
02:42:25.620 mass mandates july 1st of 2020 um it was due to polling that showed about 90 percent of
02:42:38.740 people in ontario were so fearful um that they wanted to impose these mass mandates
02:42:49.060 regardless if they worked they you know this wasn't scientific it wasn't now you know i could
02:42:55.960 also argue that there was um government was quite involved in helping to fabricate and manufacture
02:43:04.160 that fear but uh but regardless yeah all our institutions a great many of our people were
02:43:16.160 significant proponents and promoters of this terrible time and um and i think a lot of them
02:43:26.560 I just don't want to be reminded of their involvement
02:43:32.940 and their culpability in this tragic period of time.
02:43:39.060 I think that's got to be it, because I noticed that people that I know,
02:43:45.160 I remember the things they said during that time,
02:43:48.740 changed their story and hope that I don't remember.
02:43:51.600 They said, none of us really went along with it.
02:43:54.260 everyone was having secret parties it was and the narrative now is that people like myself or you
02:44:01.860 just overreacted the entire time and we're just making it up and the reason i come back to the
02:44:08.420 the covid you know i don't want to use the word scamdemic you know just because that a lot of this
02:44:14.740 a lot of the discourse has become polluted by sort of the excesses of conspiracy culture there's a
02:44:20.180 a lot of wild claims that were made that didn't come to pass and people just want to just wash
02:44:24.820 their hands of it but it's very illustrative of with that one you know multi-year incident you can
02:44:33.620 discern a lot about how human beings work i was talking about just this morning in my community
02:44:38.580 uh we were talking about um someone was telling a story about they wandered into reddit and they done
02:44:44.580 got into a reddit conversation and he was saying that these people are divorced from reality i'm
02:44:48.660 like you remember ivermectin do you remember like i saw this online and i saw it with people that i
02:44:56.100 know where they're talking about ivermectin being used as medication somewhere along the line
02:45:02.820 someone figured out on reddit most likely that you can also have ivermectin for horses and then
02:45:09.060 it turned into horse paste and then it turned into joe rogan is telling you to take horse
02:45:14.500 pace to kill you like it just went off and even after covid you still saw people bringing that up
02:45:20.660 like what do you want these horse pace guys like no one was i think alex jones did it as a joke
02:45:26.660 but that's just one if you want to dig through everything that happened you can see how like
02:45:33.460 people did go crazy for a little bit and people did just like it's everything you need to know
02:45:38.340 about media analysis it's everything you need to know about how much money then the government can
02:45:43.300 just invent out of nowhere if it wants to america just found two trillion dollars within two months
02:45:50.340 like you you actually got to see how the machinery of the state can work and that tells you what it
02:45:56.980 chooses not to do in other instances so anyway that's people are wondering why this is still
02:46:02.740 important your legal story of course but it's everything in there too so let me give you a
02:46:08.900 little thing you know in years from now when when the story eventually becomes
02:46:18.100 you know largely known truthfully and honestly um
02:46:25.220 it's it's going to be different and i'll give you this example um um during world war ii
02:46:32.100 um about 90 percent of french frenchmen in france um just complied with the nazi rule
02:46:42.480 okay a very very very small number um were in the resistance and and were called you know
02:46:52.480 uh in the resistance but after the nazis were defeated you would think that everybody in
02:47:02.720 france was a member of the resistance right um you know it was only yeah that changed that allowed
02:47:13.040 uh uh people to to change their narrative and talk about how their families did you know nobody knew
02:47:21.200 what was actually going on and so you they could say whatever they want and i think we'll see the
02:47:25.680 same thing happen um uh when we finally win with with covid you'll see all kinds of people and
02:47:35.680 we're seeing that even now all kinds of people saying yes we had house parties and yes we and
02:47:41.920 i never wore a mask and blah blah blah blah blah um so you know eventually that's that's the way
02:47:51.280 it's good yeah seeing people there's a couple other examples there uh i'm thinking of the book
02:47:57.200 coup d'etat by edward litwalk and i think maybe even war of the flea uh which is a famous book
02:48:03.920 about a guerrilla warfare and another example what you're talking about was castro's revolution in
02:48:09.600 in cuba um that it was a revolution and then uh not necessarily a coup it was really just
02:48:15.360 an incursion uh that was victorious and you know it was a relatively small amount of people that
02:48:22.760 were you know part of that movement but i remember he made a point and said but if you asked anyone
02:48:29.240 afterwards they all said that they were part of the revolution they were all involved somehow
02:48:34.340 and uh with edward luwak and coup d'etat he had said you know pulling off a successful coup you
02:48:40.800 actually don't need to get everyone on your side you just need to get most people to stay home
02:48:47.060 you don't need people like actively supporting you just get them to like call in sick that day
02:48:51.780 if you get enough people to do it to just not stand in your way then that frees up the space
02:48:57.040 for the active people to actually just do things um and failed coups fail to to account for that
02:49:03.160 but um yeah yeah so i know we got to get going pretty soon i i did want to ask you because i
02:49:10.740 think this all of this is connected and still relevant to the moves that we're seeing from
02:49:17.780 the government right now and i'm curious to hear what you think about uh bill c9 and we've been
02:49:24.960 following the this bill for quite some time there's two bills that passed recently uh bill c9
02:49:29.920 the combating hate act and i believe we were talking about this just before we went live
02:49:35.300 there was a special provision in there to address um residential school denialism which is a very
02:49:43.240 vague term and i know you you probably just love that you love when you can go to jail for something
02:49:49.400 vague right so what are your thoughts on this do you see this connected do you see this as all as
02:49:56.280 as one large coherent move towards more of a security state or just what's your read on the
02:50:03.020 situation well so i've this would take a a lot more time to get in in involved um much more
02:50:13.120 involved subject but um we have transitioned as a culture as a nation uh and not just canada
02:50:25.340 but the entire western liberal democracies um we have uh become a
02:50:34.700 predatory economy right it's not the first time we've uh embraced a predatory
02:50:44.000 culture a predatory economy um in our in the history of western empires um and um
02:50:54.720 We are now in that final grasp of extracting
02:51:02.360 the last little bit from humanity.
02:51:08.540 We've, you know, the easy element that you can see
02:51:13.680 is like taxation is a extraction of wealth from the individual.
02:51:19.460 But COVID was another extraction of wealth from the individual.
02:51:29.820 And Bill's C9 and the other surveillance in 34,
02:51:38.640 these are further measures to extract a little bit more from the individual.
02:51:47.460 if i could just interrupt you for a second it turns out i was wrong i think i just fell for a
02:51:52.500 screenshot that someone passed me i'm not i don't think that bill c9 actually has residential school
02:51:57.300 denialism in it unless there was something that didn't hit the news yet anyway sorry to interrupt
02:52:01.860 you that's they have c9 was mostly focused on um there's a few administrative changes to it
02:52:11.140 but also the religious symbols in it uh the that are now deemed hate um hate crimes so the symbols
02:52:21.380 such as swastikas the noose uh confederate flag and whatever other symbols the government chooses
02:52:30.580 in cabinet to add to the list uh among some other um not so nice changes uh to the hate laws but
02:52:40.260 but that what i was getting at is this is extraction and and you know they these things
02:52:46.980 are coupled with ai as well dimes so in in that is extracting the very last uh component of humanity
02:52:59.380 in my view our our our intelligence our creativity our imagination is being extracted
02:53:11.460 with these ai and ai data centers and it's just coupled with it's it's not coincidence that
02:53:23.220 there was 14 western nations all within the last couple months have passed similar
02:53:27.780 online surveillance and hate speech legislation.
02:53:38.240 This is what has become of Western civilization,
02:53:44.120 is not to serve Mr. Dimes or Randy Hillier or anyone else,
02:53:51.760 but to extract greater the last remaining wealth blood out of that stone so the wealthiest can
02:54:06.000 enjoy a little bit more in life that's a great way to phrase it because i know a lot of our
02:54:10.720 listeners they probably heard the terminology uh canada is just an economic zone and people
02:54:16.960 will protest that and say it's not just an economic zone but it sounds worse than that as
02:54:21.060 just a resource extraction zone and that's how people are being treated people are at best seen
02:54:27.380 as an impediment to these uh these designs and we go back to the families i'm not even trying to
02:54:33.680 laser focus on any particular family because there's a great many of them but that's an
02:54:37.540 entire class a business sector that most people are unaware of but there's just forces at work
02:54:42.840 in this country and i really like how you keep bringing this back to the economic angle um a lot
02:54:49.980 of people will just focus on on the cultural or the mass migration angle and there's not a lot
02:54:55.240 of people that or you know the elite theory angle which are all valid of course but not a lot is
02:55:00.840 said about the economic terrain and what could be driving it let's look at the banks let's look at
02:55:06.640 the financial incentive here let's almost remove politics entirely from it doesn't
02:55:10.620 It doesn't fucking matter what the Conservatives are saying.
02:55:13.800 They are beholden to these other forces.
02:55:16.140 But that's why it doesn't matter if it's the Conservatives or the Liberals
02:55:18.700 or even the NDP, you know, like it doesn't matter.
02:55:24.020 They are all captured by the same system, you know.
02:55:29.540 They are dependent.
02:55:31.640 They have become dependent on wealth.
02:55:37.100 and you know and over this course of time you know there should be you know because money was
02:55:43.200 always available i and i and i think would be amiss not to also uh put in an important point
02:55:52.380 um you know as we have worshipped money more and more you know it's been corresponding we have
02:56:04.960 rejected faith and we have rejected uh and we no longer use christian morals or ethics
02:56:13.520 as a means to constrain or attenuate um um the worship of of dollars um and i think you know
02:56:24.860 that is where we're at at the at the moment is there is there are no longer any moral or ethical
02:56:36.240 constraints in our pursuit of wealth and the extraction of wealth and and people need to
02:56:45.280 realize this as well um you know we are diminishing ever more our uh extraction of
02:56:56.720 wealth from natural resources we still do it but uh the the greatest commodity right now is people
02:57:04.080 that's what wealth extraction is happening at the greatest level and being exploited
02:57:11.080 um and and i would say that is one of the great reasons why you have seen such large immigration
02:57:20.200 influxes into western nations as well i agree with that completely and uh we've got a great
02:57:28.240 many uh members and fans of the domain society and other canadian nationalist groups who listen
02:57:33.440 to this show and uh eventually you can advocate for that all you want but uh at a certain point
02:57:39.820 you start asking well why are they doing this to begin with what is the reason for this because
02:57:45.140 it can't just be ideological ineptitude you know it can't you know if we we produce this really
02:57:53.040 interesting short film called paving over the public that came out a couple years ago that
02:57:58.300 was showing the history of mass migration in canada and and how it really kicked off in the
02:58:03.720 60s but really across many different prime ministers it wasn't just one political party
02:58:09.540 um and it wasn't there was a lot of interests in play and a lot of them were largely economic but
02:58:16.200 uh yeah like it sometimes it can be simple why they're doing it because it doesn't make
02:58:20.400 that we bring in all these people but you don't have the housing we don't have the jobs we actually
02:58:25.480 have never really had the jobs it's not it's just this giant welfare state that to the point where
02:58:30.800 we are now i think opposition is something like universal basic income is is as low as it's ever
02:58:37.300 been i see people on the left and the right anarchist doesn't fucking matter they're
02:58:41.280 entertaining universal basic income just because they're out of ideas and how to make this work
02:58:46.600 yeah like even if all if vast migration happened re-migration happened tomorrow and they all left
02:58:52.960 it's like they might still need to have universal basic income because they don't have a plan in
02:58:57.260 place to really re-industrialize they don't have a plan in place on a granular level to make the
02:59:02.980 economy and make the fight the industrial sector what it needs to be because no one's really
02:59:07.720 thought about it so like well we'll just you know we'll just it's i'm not opposed to the idea of
02:59:13.460 just getting money forever no you know i don't think there is any plan by um to get us back on
02:59:23.320 the right track uh uh you know the the the only plan that gets us back on the right track is is
02:59:30.400 not a moneymaker for those who are uh in power it's would also be somewhat of a hardship
02:59:41.520 and inconvenience for a great many canadians and um you know and we have come to
02:59:51.200 really enjoy a convenient
02:59:54.920 and lack of hardship lifestyle in this country.
03:00:00.460 So, no, there is
03:00:03.420 no plan to get us back on track.
03:00:09.200 Unfortunately, if that's across enough general track
03:00:12.640 would require us to become a more
03:00:16.180 self-reliant individual
03:00:19.540 um individuals in culture um and the problem is that if it this process occurs over enough
03:00:30.840 generations you've got millennials like myself that can maybe remember a time when things are
03:00:36.160 different but with gen z and gen a i guess we're just going alphabetically uh they're they've they
03:00:43.960 have no connection to any other way of life other than what it is they don't really have
03:00:48.420 any logical or even emotional opposition to you know let's say universal basic income like they're
03:00:54.080 very nihilistic is what i noticed they don't know what a better life feels like or looks like
03:00:58.760 so they're lost and their their solutions to problems are just increasingly violent and
03:01:04.500 increasingly radical and i think that's very frightening to a lot of entrenched interests
03:01:09.700 um so and then you we discussed this before at the very beginning uh these generate there's not
03:01:15.380 love dialogue between the generations gen z's not really talking to boomers they talk past each other
03:01:19.960 they feud on social media but you know there there are problems of course with wealth being
03:01:27.060 locked up in certain areas and assets and whatnot but it's just it's it's a bad sign when you have
03:01:34.480 different generations of the same people talking about each other as if they're different
03:01:39.440 a different ethnicity or species entirely like people talk about boomers like they're
03:01:44.940 fucking aliens and like that's bad those are also like that that's you that's that's your
03:01:50.600 that's your people like it or not but i don't know that's that's gone very contentious yeah
03:01:56.000 no listen listen i'm i'm quite fortunate i i have four kids i have 10 grandchildren i
03:02:02.560 you know i'm largely independent self-reliant i'm certainly not dependent on government for
03:02:11.240 for very much I have minimized that all my life but I think you know one of the problems
03:02:23.120 that I've seen for boomers and and increasingly so for other subsequent or
03:02:30.440 subsequent generations is the lack of knowledge of historical knowledge prevents people from
03:02:44.800 seeing patterns and recognizing patterns and therefore failure to recognize trends
03:02:53.060 and you can't see patterns if you don't know that those dots existed before so let me just
03:03:02.120 you know i did this little speech a while ago um um and it went something like this
03:03:09.940 Um, uh, when I was 30 years of age, I, um, um, I was an electrician.
03:03:21.240 I bought a single family home.
03:03:24.880 Um, it cost me, um, two times my yearly salary.
03:03:31.420 My wife was at home with our three children at the time.
03:03:37.380 Um, she didn't work.
03:03:39.940 Um, so a blue collar electrician tradesman could own a family home, uh, and his wife
03:03:48.900 could stay at home and take care of the children.
03:03:51.920 Um, I owned a vehicle.
03:03:54.960 Um, I, we went on holidays.
03:03:57.820 Uh, we did not want for anything.
03:04:01.900 And, you know, 30 years later, um, uh, my, my youngest son is a tradesman.
03:04:09.940 And that home that I bought at two times my salary would cost him, the same home, would cost him about 10 times his yearly salary.
03:04:26.300 Um, the new vehicle that, um, uh, new pickup truck, uh, that cost me, um, um, not even half, uh, not even a quarter, maybe a quarter of my yearly salary would now cost him triple his salary.
03:04:52.160 So, you know, we go through and look at things in purchasing, relative purchasing powers, and, you know, we did have a very good country.
03:05:08.860 I was very fortunate to be brought into a very good, prosperous, and free country.
03:05:18.340 and i've been fighting to try to get that back for my children and grandchildren but
03:05:27.840 i i take your point and i think it's important is these younger people need to understand
03:05:36.280 what it was like and what it is that they ought to be striving for and it's not universal basic
03:05:45.020 income it's not a shared uh one bedroom apartment with three of their buddies and taking turns on
03:05:54.860 the couches um you know uh it's it's not working at tim hortons or mcdonald's or um you know these
03:06:05.740 These are, people need to understand that the younger generations have been totally fucked and screwed by the actions of my generation and others in our governments that we've elected.
03:06:25.520 Yeah, and I think it's important to always frame this along those terms, and this could be the thing we end on.
03:06:30.800 And I'm glad you said that because I always tell people, especially younger people, keep in view what it is you actually want.
03:06:39.240 Because what they'll do is try and trick you into diverting you to something else.
03:06:43.500 I'll use housing as an example.
03:06:45.280 They'll say, okay, we want affordable housing.
03:06:47.420 You actually don't want affordable housing.
03:06:49.480 You want an affordable house.
03:06:51.700 And you're a Canadian man.
03:06:53.080 you're allowed to say i want a big enough house on a big enough piece of land and a house to raise
03:07:00.800 a family on because what they're going to try and sell you on is a very small house they tried to
03:07:05.320 sell my generation on tiny homes i don't know if you remember that they tried to sell us on trailer
03:07:10.460 hitch homes and we didn't want that but i'm like when they give you affordable housing it's going
03:07:13.980 to be an inferior product it's going to be weird and narrow on like a little patch of grass but
03:07:19.500 don't don't feel guilty by saying that i want a house of sufficient size and a yard of sufficient
03:07:25.560 size to raise a family and and i want a vehicle that isn't a piece of shit and you shouldn't be
03:07:30.660 made to feel ashamed for for wanting that don't fall into saying say well we get out of the graphs
03:07:36.440 advocate for yourself do you think it's important that some that a family can raise a raise itself
03:07:43.380 on a single income they'll try and convince you you're unreasonable for wanting that everyone i
03:07:47.360 know in my generation anyone that's got a house is a dual income home and they're really struggling
03:07:51.700 to raise a family just based on time alone right but it's like i i will advocate for my interests
03:07:58.220 and i think we should have jobs that that could support that well dimes how do you do that i don't
03:08:02.680 know you tell me you're the fucking government my job is to be loud and angry and you're allowed to
03:08:09.200 be loud and angry you're allowed to be a weirdo as you who do you think you are you're someone
03:08:14.020 that matters. Don't let them convince you otherwise. No, I think you're absolutely
03:08:18.340 correct. That was my expectation at 18 when I left school and 19 when I left home was I would
03:08:29.240 have a single family home. I would have a family. My wife would stay at home. We wouldn't need two
03:08:39.040 incomes we would have maybe not a brand new car but we would have a reliable good vehicle we would
03:08:49.500 be able to take a few weeks and go on holidays every year and that we would be able to go out
03:08:57.300 and enjoy a beer at the pub occasionally and and whatever else but um you know and that
03:09:05.640 needs to be, you know, people need to see what their, know what their expectations are and
03:09:13.220 state it. And Canada has a huge amount of wealth available to it. If we weren't always taking
03:09:24.800 and extracting everything from everyone.
03:09:29.480 And if we would allow our abundance of resources,
03:09:37.420 land to be available for housing,
03:09:44.520 our resources to be used for extraction
03:09:49.000 and value-added components,
03:09:54.800 you know like um you know like it's it's just simple we are um we are a wealthy nation but
03:10:06.080 it is in the hands of a very few i absolutely agree and that brings us to a close here let
03:10:14.000 me just i want to add your youtube on screen here because i hadn't looked at that recently
03:10:20.480 people can find him on youtube randy hillier uh i've got his uh x up here follow him on there
03:10:28.480 find him on youtube find him on x uh there's a lot of good videos on there and no more lockdowns
03:10:33.600 and follow this story like i just threw up a few stories that i was coming across as
03:10:38.800 searching for them this is an ongoing case you're involved in and um yeah i think i think we need
03:10:45.120 more mavericks need more randy hilliers out there mavericks i agree anyway thank you so much for
03:10:52.320 taking the time to speak with me today and uh i hope you had a great time as well it's been my
03:10:58.320 pleasure mr dimes and hope to see you sometime and if you uh in the neighborhood drop in um
03:11:05.760 and see me in lanark county sometime absolutely i'll take you up on that
03:11:10.080 Hey baby, I hear the blues are calling, tossed salads and scrambled eggs.
03:11:17.080 And maybe I seem a bit confused, yeah maybe, but I got you pegs.