00:06:00.280civil rights abuses i think this has got to the point where there's so much
00:06:05.020worse that the u.s has done that nobody cares about the little things like oh you torture
00:06:10.420political prisoners whatever everybody does that and i mean now you're also like murdering children
00:06:16.100and raping kids and drinking people's adrenochrome and you know it must seem quaint to them to have
00:06:23.580defend terrorists brown terrorists and now they have to defend tranny school
00:06:30.240shooters and just nigger rapists I saw a post just the other day and I don't
00:06:38.580know the full story but it was a woman this is just a vibe description all
00:06:44.160these facts may be wrong but as a woman who was celebrating herself she's a
00:06:49.580a lawyer for getting a death row conviction downgraded to just a life in
00:06:56.900prison conviction for one of her cases one of her charges and people were
00:07:04.160looking into it and of course it was it was some kind of heinous like you don't
00:07:07.820end up on death row for nothing it's like kidnapping and torturing children
00:07:13.700is what lands you there or something equally disturbing and just her
00:07:19.220celebrating that and then they check the rest for posts and what she doing she's
00:07:24.200complaining about Elon Musk of course the billionaire class about how you're
00:07:29.960all slaves to the power of capital I'm like okay I mean your job is saving the
00:07:35.240lives of child raping murderers mm-hmm you know so that's that these are the
00:07:41.460type of people now we're dealing now i have a question for you what would be worse your wife
00:07:50.020leaving you for a black guy or your wife leaving you for a whiter guy wicked that's not good
00:07:59.060i ask this of every listener yeah and i you know what i already saw this post by you the
00:08:07.000originator of this post and i i actually thought deeply about it i couldn't decide i'm telling you
00:08:13.020why do you think i posted it yeah it's actually a post for fun it rings like a joke and then when
00:08:18.680the ringing stops you're like i don't actually know the answer to that man that's hard
00:08:21.940you stop you shake your head you're still in the fight exactly that's what this one is
00:08:27.580it's just like a topic this is some 824 shit you you're you're shaking yourself
00:08:32.700at the g-lock is here pull up terrain pull up
00:08:36.380terrain terrain pull up but it's terrain is the name of your wife you turn up pull up my wife
00:08:46.720hmm i don't know gang do we get let them have no it's to avoid okay yeah all right
00:08:53.800you talked your way out of another pickle junis yeah i did the night is still young i'll get you
00:09:02.700This is a funny thing to consider because what I would like to normalize is, you know, when these white bitches, you know, they want to piss off their dad.
00:26:08.100the scientists behind this might be on side of us because you wouldn't hear that brought up
00:26:15.440otherwise like it's very hard to find race brought up i can imagine that it would it would be in the
00:26:21.860data regardless but the fact that they included it in the study because they didn't need like
00:26:26.840what are you why are you what i mean you there's only one conclusion to draw from that so you
00:26:32.560should probably have left it out if you didn't want people trying that conclusion so fascinating
00:26:36.560Yeah, it is interesting that all this political stuff, ideological stuff, it doesn't have no effect on the black community.
00:26:42.840They seem to just do whatever the fuck.
00:26:44.900They seem to just have kids with no planning or regard for their society at all.
00:26:50.160It's like white people dramatically change when they switch ideologies, and it turns out that blacks fundamentally stay the exact same, but just put on a different hat.
00:33:01.840in a jackass style accident a cky style accident that inspires every every kid around him every
00:33:08.880kid gets smarter as a result some kid dies of veganism nothing happened no one learns nothing
00:33:15.280there's nothing to be gained by the community but our our deaths are triumphant and so they
00:33:23.300and sort of great songs or great wisdom you're really going hard on this every dead right-wing
00:33:32.020child could have a statue made of them well yeah yes but also i just love that i bet you feel
00:33:37.660pretty fucking stupid now that like bam margera is like the poster child for this somehow like
00:33:43.120an unmarried degenerate alcoholic he's he's the satan of this because he's still alive
00:33:50.960oh right right they're supposed to be dead i get it he's he he held on yeah as a mockery to god
00:33:57.680it was like i skipped the bam mania i didn't know i liked jackass at the time and i was
00:34:06.540wasn't into skateboarding at the time so i thought bam was a loser but i had no idea that
00:34:12.500for a lot of our generation even gen z too kind of but millennials like they're there's people
00:34:19.960obsessed with bam margera i've got i've got to confess i actually never liked jackass i always
00:34:26.440had a principled stance against it that they were fucking idiots and it's a stupid show well it's
00:34:31.520called jackass even as a kid even as a kid i remember everybody being obsessed with it and i'm
00:34:37.920like i don't i don't understand i get part of it i'm a weirdo right but i see guys driving a
00:34:45.520shopping cart down a steep hill and i close my eyes because i'm gonna watch a guy get his arm
00:34:50.300disconnected from its socket and go to the hospital i don't actually like it i don't i
00:34:54.120don't enjoy it so and i never understood that here's what i think you're missing out on and
00:34:59.260i understand that uh if if that's that's what our friends were doing so we're of an age where
00:35:07.120when we were teenagers jackass was just coming out yeah and so maybe younger people don't do
00:35:12.980this anymore but you would have known a few guys who had their crew of friends who are doing jackass
00:35:18.860oh yeah like we know it's true like we all did this kind of stuff but it was always like to me
00:35:25.080the way i remember it is like you're always um you're like goading each other right everybody
00:35:30.740in like part of the drama of it the excitement is everybody knows it's dumb everybody knows it's
00:35:36.100going to hurt and nobody actually wants to do it but you're all like pushing each other who's going
00:35:40.100to be the one who breaks his arm right whereas with that it's like a planned like hey we're all
00:35:44.680buddies we're gonna all break our necks and watch us break like a man like we yeah we did stuff like
00:35:50.540that and then we got hurt and usually it was only one of us and then we're like oh fuck well here's
00:35:54.800here's the problem that a lot of people our age didn't really get what worked about jackass
00:35:59.760and i'll defend because i actually like jackass quite a bit i'm not going to see the new one
00:36:04.140i don't think because in like the previous one but um one thing and you would think that it was
00:36:12.660that if you only watched your friends do and everyone did the same thing they rode a rubber
00:36:18.040made container off their roof they did the shopping cart down the hill and then they did
00:36:24.000like shooting each other with bb guns or shit or like something with a car right but what i loved
00:36:29.240about jackass and johnny knoxville did a lot of this it was just them recreating looney tunes
00:36:35.480moments and there was such a goofiness to it and it was like so childishly stupid so like if you
00:36:42.680remember like bugs bunny shit where it's like we're gonna paint paint a fucking uh tunnel on a
00:36:49.420rock wall and have steve will get rocket skates and do like like literally just make cartoon stuff
00:36:54.920like all this stuff we thought was safe like if you just ride a bike off a roof you're 10 times
00:37:00.960more likely to break your neck than anything they did which was flashy and showy yeah and and it
00:37:06.900might look bad but they do in such a way where it's just you're landing on your shoulder a lot
00:37:11.520but like guys our age we would always pick shit where like if you're being dragged behind a car
00:37:16.380there's a hundred ways you could die in an instant and that's why they didn't fucking do it
00:37:20.240after you watch succession you should watch jackass and we got this came up in the chat
00:37:27.280people have been watching you oh no where you at in succession and don't lie i'll tell i didn't i
00:37:35.020haven't i haven't picked it back up again i will look i promise that i will i wish you lied you
00:37:40.620what you wanted me to lie and say that i was that i finished it then it means you would have cared
00:37:44.400i care enough to not lie are you gonna break my heart i'm gonna ask you and you answer truthfully
00:37:53.460are you still in season one uh no i well i haven't moved i was i think i'm on episode one or two of
00:38:00.720season two but that's where i was the last time we talked about it too okay it's not as bad as i
00:38:05.860thought you got one season under your belly you got it i got belly i got the characters to an
00:38:12.620extent but yeah we're all over the fucking place in this episode not a lot's been happening
00:38:18.260i was talking to my wife about that i'm like what's going on like i guess there's two wars
00:38:23.020we got the wildfires today is that over where you guys are yes so i woke up today and the
00:38:29.300entire day has been dusk yeah i tried to look it up and all i get is americans complaining about
00:38:35.240awful canada and their toxic smoke and i'm i'm laughing as if as if we're not suffering from it
00:38:40.760too, but yeah. This morning, extreme and historic weather conditions putting millions of Americans at risk with dangerous smoke from Canadian wildfires now blanketing the Midwest and Northeast and Central Texas in the midst of a life-threatening flood event. First in the north, water bombers and helicopters now deploying to fight more than 180 wildfires in Canada. Also, haven't we just been exchanging wildfires for two, three years now? It's mostly, it's mostly us giving it to them.
00:39:10.760There was one that was, like, the Hollywood was on fire.
01:14:58.640or tell the group how it was after 9-11 and i wanted to hear what your recollection is
01:15:05.720as a canadian yes we're outsiders what the fuck do we know don't listen to us
01:15:10.540but he was saying and this man was an american he was saying that after 9-11
01:15:16.520for the like a year afterwards it was an open season on muslims in america there was muslim
01:15:23.840exact fucking opposite of the reality i i remember the opposite first of all i remember george bush
01:15:30.540immediately after 9-11 saying we're not at war with muslims we're at war with islamists
01:15:36.020that narrative carried through and i remember i was given examples of like you know team america
01:15:43.740came out like a year or two after 9-11 i think like it came out really fast after 9-11 and it
01:15:51.380was already lampooning this sort of jingonistic uh american sentiment of like being such a patriot
01:15:59.000like that that was immediately mocked i think the amount of pro-islam sentiment that was represented
01:16:06.020through irony and sarcasm and lampoons is probably the reason that people who were not plugged in or
01:16:13.240not very intelligent or weren't really paying attention get the impression that people were
01:16:17.920anti-islam right because you you might if you if you would see all these lampoons and think oh the
01:16:22.240reason they're lampooning is they're lampooning a thing that's a contemporary norm right which is
01:16:27.440anti-islam except that it wasn't a contemporary norm it never was it i mean it was a little bit
01:16:33.080as it fucking should be but uh not to the extent that they say it was i certainly remember that i
01:16:38.660mean we were just uh like starting high school right i remember that as the first time in my
01:16:43.160life where people were openly going to bat for muslims that's all i ever heard within the school
01:16:48.740system and within canadian media was this outpouring of support and sympathy for muslims
01:16:55.040in this trying time which is insane because i thought the americans were the victims but like
01:16:59.500that's you know we're not even political at that age but we remember that was what i remembered i
01:17:05.220remember and this doesn't serve whatever narrative whoever's claiming this is trying to push and i'm
01:17:11.160not trying to you know zero in on the person i'm referring to here but i've seen this from other
01:17:16.240people other influencers and creators and stuff saying that that the anti-islam sentiment in
01:17:22.120america at the time was pushed by jews and i'm like fuck i don't even remember like aside from
01:17:27.280gavin mcginnis and milo yiannopoulos and some of the alt-light guys like there's an anti-islamism
01:17:32.720push on the you know post neocon right the alt-light whatever it might be but but i'm also
01:17:39.440like it wasn't it wasn't mainstreamed like that yeah and that was you know that that was kind of
01:17:46.800a concert just a very strictly conservative thing it wasn't even that big they are mainstreaming it
01:17:51.920right now at least in the right wing it seems like the and it and i i would agree that it is
01:17:56.640the jews it's one of those things where it's like i'm frustrated because it's the jews that are doing
01:18:01.200it and so if you want to agree with it it's like oh you support is jews like no i i hate jews too
01:18:06.240But this is one of the things the Jews happen to be right on is that Muslims fucking suck and should all be removed.
01:18:11.460But I mean, it's like to the extent that there is anti-Islamism.
01:18:16.080Yes, a lot of it does come from Jews, but that's not to say that this exists throughout society.
01:18:21.700Largely, it certainly didn't then. And even to the extent that it exists now, it's not that big.
01:18:26.240It's kind of focused on the like the not even the right wing, but like the far essentially the far right.
01:18:31.740right i don't think you'd you'd be hard-pressed now to find a typical right-wing boomer who would
01:18:38.440like not privately but like in a crowded room say yeah fuck muslims like you you know what i mean
01:18:44.380it's not something that people are comfortable with talking it would have been more likely back
01:18:49.140then and like i actually looked at the numbers i looked it up and i was looking for quite some time
01:18:55.280Like, what are the numbers of not only convictions, but reported cases of every type of assault, including, like, verbal harassment and reported vandalism?
01:19:09.200And I remember it was something like 800 reported cases for the entire nation for, like, a full year after 9-11.
01:37:21.720she might as well have used the word incel in it
01:37:25.020Like, they're doing side-by-side comparisons where she's, let's say, editorializing the definitions there to fit what she thinks modern audiences need to hear.
01:37:34.960But imagine that every step along the line.
01:37:39.000And so, like, do you have – but how do you do that?
01:37:42.000How do you get the entire context of something from reading it?
01:37:45.440Like, do you have to become a scholar of the entire history of whatever it is that you're researching?
01:37:51.220or is it is there something in the language itself and that's really what i think this book
01:37:57.420is getting into because some people say well so you just have to be hyper aware of like every
01:38:04.100cultural cue that could be hidden in there it's like no but it starts at an even deeper level
01:38:10.460that and then you start asking like well what is a word right what what is the function of a word
01:38:16.560what's it trying to communicate, like what he, what the fuck is even
01:38:20.040understanding? What are we doing when we understand something? So then you're also
01:38:25.740asking, like what am I, what am I doing by trying to seek the truth? Like what is
01:38:31.620that? What, what, what does it look like? What is it, how would I know it when I
01:38:34.740found it? What does it mean to understand something? Like can I, can I, can I even
01:38:39.240understand something pure? Right? It's, it's, or is everything kind of hidden
01:38:44.640through language and interpretation and if i can't commute like i can absorb the truth but then i can
01:38:52.320never communicate it to someone else that's kind of a crazy idea right like i actually you wouldn't
01:38:58.100know how to code it the truth into communication because it's not just it's not just the the what
01:39:06.960what a language is it especially english is so multifaceted and i'll just get into the book right
01:39:14.480now and i won't be able to cover all of it and this is another one where it's easier to read it
01:39:20.720than it is to recite it but i'll do the best i can um it's kind of summarized it here it says his
01:39:28.400the author's signature is called the conflict of interpretations the name of the book
01:39:32.000and it is by Paul Ricoeur so he says here the signature Paul Ricoeur's signature contribution
01:39:41.460is the idea of a symbol's double meaning and the surplus of meaning in language so every word
01:39:50.440possesses a certain opacity and richness language has a surplus of meaning overlapping interpretations
01:39:56.540that make meaning overdetermined and equivocal recur offers a pluralistic dialectical hermeneutics
01:40:03.700that keeps method like structuralism or psychoanalysis in permanent productive tension
01:40:10.800with the desire for meaning the work of interpretation is to explicate the multiple
01:40:16.380determination of symbols and tease out different interpretations by using a variety of frames of
01:40:21.220reference or considering the text in different contexts so like he's got this idea of you know
01:40:28.460some people in hermeneukes they want to cut through everything and they think that there's
01:40:33.380like a truth hidden that's obscured by lack of context or language and he's really trying to
01:40:39.440say like no you just need multiple different methods of approach to like intersect over this
01:40:45.980thing and understand it like you'll never be able to it's like it's not like the the sentence
01:40:52.380is there to carry truth beneath it you just need to like unclutter all the letters and get to the
01:40:59.060truth it's like that's that's not what it is it's not like there's a platonic form of something
01:41:04.640lurking beneath the language it's a lot more complex than that so he said the idea of like
01:41:10.740trying to you need multiple interpretations to like even start to understand something because
01:41:17.080that's what understanding is like it's not a dissection that that's what kind of what the
01:41:22.900scientist or the structuralist would think it's like these are just blocks i can rearrange them
01:41:27.800and i can extract the value from this and you know just like they make medicine right there's
01:41:34.060got to be like a cold mathematical logic to understanding truth and there's not and again
02:15:25.700So just as our political institutions have been captured by wealth,
02:15:34.180I would say the voters have been captured through dependency on government.
02:15:41.800So this is why you're not seeing the blowback and the pushback against these, what should be considered scandalous, corrupt and reprehensible uses of public dollars and policies like censorship and digital ID and surveillance.
02:16:08.620you know a huge segment of the Canadian population has become absolutely dependent
02:16:19.760on government for their needs as you know as well as in many cases not just their needs but also
02:16:31.000for their employment or income um so people who are dependents are not going to bite the hand
02:16:42.320that feeds them um you know they're so both sides of our political institution are are captured in
02:16:51.940my yeah this condo one is especially egregious because people will read this and they'll get
02:16:58.820trauma pangs of the 2008 housing crisis because it sounds similar but it's not uh that that was
02:17:07.140a completely different financial catastrophe this if we had to describe what happened too many
02:17:12.440companies got too greedy too fast built a bunch of condo builders that no one's in by the way
02:17:18.260because you're probably thinking oh my god people are going to end up on the street no that's the
02:17:20.840thing no one's going to end up on the on the street because no one's living in these they're
02:17:25.380They're getting paid out because the investors were just silly.
02:20:45.980Well, it's interesting you say all that,
02:20:47.380because even as i'm scanning the headlines right now i think that narrative is missing from the
02:20:52.780larger discourse because everyone's talking with developers like i just did i'm sure of course
02:20:56.900there's an aspect of it but i don't see really anyone talking about banks unless it's like i
02:21:02.540want to hear bailouts should be born by banks says mark carney but i think people are just missing
02:21:07.580that dimension to it and and you're singing the song that a lot of our listeners like i got some
02:21:13.240friends who are big followers of your accounts uh guys by the name of cryptos and black horse
02:21:20.680and a ben ben fleming guys guys who just made a real sideshow of bullying uh erin o'toole
02:21:30.760just try because i was actually going to mention that um at some point but um maybe i'll just ask
02:21:37.160Now, just going back to COVID momentarily, I've noticed people like Aaron O'Toole, and let me see if I can just pull him up here so people don't know him.
02:21:47.440He's very active on social media, and he's an interesting example of someone from the mainstream conservative establishment who's engaging with all the freaks that I have as friends.
02:21:59.540And he's, you know, defending the role of the Conservative Party and the mainstream political establishment during COVID.
02:22:07.500But he's just not being quiet about it.
02:22:09.840And the consensus among some of the more fringe figures is that this is just the Conservative Party trying to figure out how to engage with the COVID narrative again without admitting culpability.
02:22:22.540But I do wonder, when you look at someone like Aaron O'Toole, you'll need to talk about him specifically, but let's talk about other Conservatives.
02:22:28.560do you think they've come around even a little bit to your advocacy or maybe rethinking their
02:22:36.760role during COVID? Or do you think your life's just not going to get any easier?
02:22:41.580No. So listen, you know, Aaron O'Toole may be out of elected office, but he's not away from
02:22:48.180the public trough. And this is what most people fail to see or don't make the connection, I don't
02:22:54.580think well between people in office and out of office most elected representatives when they
02:23:03.020leave office and i would say this is in about 90 percent still remain dependent on the political
02:23:12.260system for their incomes. So they will never say boo or anything bad against their institution or
02:23:26.140the party for fear that they will not get the patronage position. And let me give you a brief
02:23:33.580story. And I will use some names here. When I was speaking out against COVID, and I was being
02:23:42.660lambasted in the press and elsewhere for my opposition, I phoned up various
02:23:50.860former colleagues, and maybe I shouldn't use their name, but it wouldn't be fair to them,
02:23:59.700they're not here to respond but one was a former um leader of the conservative party
02:24:06.780uh who was now a senator uh and who was uh um no he had left being a senator he was
02:24:17.060head of a significant crown corporation and i knew he opposed covid like i did and i asked him i said
02:24:25.460Bob would you come on out and speak on my behalf and he said you know Randy uh if I did that you
02:24:32.040know Dougie would probably take away my patronage position at this crown corporation and it's worth
02:24:38.000a couple hundred grand a year um and then I called up another former leader uh and I said you know
02:24:45.460Tim would you would you come out I know that you were opposing this stuff as well um and you know
02:24:52.800and he says well randy i'd really like to help you but you know i'm the head of a a good big
02:24:58.400industry group and we're uh we're dependent on having good relationships with doug ford
02:25:06.160so no i i i i'm going to hold my tongue um and then i called up another federal cabinet minister
02:25:14.240uh and i said you know i know you're on side with me and he says well you know i'd love to help you
02:25:20.320out but i'm a i'm a lobbyist for these particular industries and uh and i can't say too much or else
02:25:30.080i'll probably lose my my um my income from these industry groups so this is pretty widespread i
02:25:39.200assume right one could assume that every single retired politician of significance probably has
02:25:45.360you know the golden handcuffs on them in one form or another right correct about i think it's about
02:25:51.64090 percent um but have some or it's either completely dependent on a patronage position
02:26:01.600or good graces or contracts or a significant portion of their income is derived from their
02:26:11.560government relations uh and continued healthy friendly government relations so so it's a self
02:26:19.560reinforcing uh um closed loop and that's why it's amazing like how many people in politics
02:26:31.320will refuse to tell the truth about their time in politics um but it's for that very reason they
02:26:38.680want to continue the um being at the trough yeah one would assume that the more successful they are
02:26:48.460in politics and the higher they climb up the ladder the more indebted they are to this very
02:26:53.460system the more they can be taken away from them because you have to assume that most of these
02:26:57.200people have no skills they can't just you know they might be that the head of some think tank
02:27:03.700or something but that's just yeah moving money around it's not that they can go run a company
02:27:09.380but i don't know to erin o'too's entire background but it sounds like he spends a lot of time on x
02:27:14.660he does so he's still like his dad was in the legislature with me um um and uh and you know
02:27:26.020he was a career military um um officer um and um you know government is you know he is dependent
02:27:39.780on government and he's going to continue doing being nice and uh and being nice with the party
02:27:49.860and get some gigs when it's a conservative's time at the trough.
02:27:58.900It's interesting, before you had mentioned very briefly
02:28:02.400these sort of wealthy families all throughout Canada,
02:28:06.460and some people refer to them as holistically the business class here.
02:28:11.140But I remember looking into it at one point, asking like,
02:28:14.700oh, who are the billionaires, the political billionaires in Canada, right?
02:29:29.940And, like, this is a very incestuous loop.
02:29:36.280And most Canadians have no idea who these people are.
02:29:42.460But not only do they, you know, they also own our banks, right?
02:29:48.660You know, now there's no single owner of a bank,
02:29:53.000but these families will have large ownership stakes
02:29:58.800and often started the banks like the Molson family.
02:30:03.720They started, historically, they started the Molson Bank,
02:30:08.880which then became the Bank of Montreal.
02:30:13.500So, yeah, most people have no idea who these people are.
02:30:17.440That's a great point that they name these banks after the cities that they're in, but that totally shields the actual families they usually start. It's not just that the city hall decided to start a bank one day. It was usually specific families that are still in large part control.
02:30:35.760And a lot of Americans, when I explain this to them, our banking ecosystem is very different than what even in Europe they might be accustomed to.
02:30:44.160And we only have like a handful of big banks that operate a lot more closely and exert, in my view, a lot more direct control over our financial affairs.
02:30:55.860But maybe you have a different opinion.
02:31:29.480no absolutely and again it's the canadian business class i meant this was in an article
02:31:35.880that i wrote that i shared with you that a lot of the um you know without getting too much of this
02:31:41.980there's uh especially in the canadian nationalist scene right now there's a lot of hostility towards
02:31:47.120america um some of it's deserved some of it goes a bit too far in my view i don't like to get
02:31:51.820too deep i've got many american friends of course um but it is important for the canadian
02:31:58.640identity movement to stand apart in some way. But there is a very porous border and a lot of
02:32:04.600cross-border financial investment in our institutions. And the business class has
02:32:10.120always, in my view, been the tip of the spear in either selling out or bringing in American money
02:32:17.180occasionally to subvert Canadian national industry interests to America. And there's a long,
02:32:26.880long history there so but anyway i feel like that's you know you're at where i'm at where
02:32:32.540once you start pulling at the thread of one problem the entire damn country comes unraveled
02:32:38.780like and here you are like in court still i think your next date is 2028 yeah my the earliest trial
02:32:46.920that um that they could offer me once i i lasted the court of appeal um because i originally i had
02:32:56.280all the charges stayed against me but then the crown appealed it um and the earliest date they
02:33:05.180could offer me a jury trial in ottawa was uh may of 2028 so um we're back on deck there when we
02:33:15.660were talking about erin o'toole um one of the questions was do you think people have or the
02:33:21.020establishment let's call it that has come around to your views um do you do you see more people
02:33:27.060back in the day you had some people you knew who wanted to say something but couldn't do you think
02:33:32.640those people have come around more publicly have you received any support since then from those
02:33:37.380people well in we've seen that in the states there's been far more people outspoken in the
02:33:45.120states and willing to continue to pry and reveal the facts and the evidence that was obscured and
02:33:53.300hidden from us during COVID. You know, like Chelsea Gabbard's recent revelation last week
02:33:59.400about Fauci's and the intelligence services involvement with the cover-up of COVID.
02:34:11.600um oh have you heard the latest the latest narrative sorry to interrupt you but i encountered
02:34:16.900someone saying this because if you've watched the fauci story our position hasn't really changed at
02:34:23.860all but their position has whereas before he was the patron saint of science then they began
02:34:30.360accepting his involvement in this book the latest update i heard was well of course gain of function
02:34:36.480research was happening under him but it was behind his back so he's that he has nothing to do with
02:34:41.840i'm like what are you talking about so now now he's just a dummy now he's just a guy like i don't
02:34:47.600i don't know what's going on forget all the evidence that he was involved but like that's
02:34:51.760the latest cope yeah and this is i mean this is you're kind of seen as a coup not you specifically
02:34:58.400but maybe but also us for even talking about this still tulsi gabber seen as a coup why are we still
02:35:05.040talking about this and have you encountered that like it's kind of difficult to bring sure but this
02:35:10.660is you know like we've seen this historically with all these scams all this corruption all
02:35:19.040these cover-ups like you know why would you be talking about building seven that just fell down
02:35:27.500all on its own without being hit by a plane uh with an hour after the other buildings fell down
02:35:35.480over you know um charlie kirk or uh you know uh weapons of mass destruction that was a complete
02:35:45.400uh hoax and cover-up in um in iraq or you know like you know again and i i'll put this back
02:35:54.660Again, when people are dependent on an authority or on an institution for their needs and their well-being and their incomes, they are going to excuse and make excuses for the bad behavior of those institutions.
02:36:17.380And I think with the whole do better, you should not reward a lot more often.
02:36:38.580If you reward an individual, and that's what we're doing with our governments,
02:36:43.180is we are not holding them accountable we're actually rewarding them for their their wrongdoing
02:36:52.120um we're rewarding them for their corruption and they just get more brazen more outlandish
02:37:02.880um and um and the scandals get bigger not less well and that's something we tell people that
02:37:12.300the onus is on us to be outlandish and unreasonable because to bring it up again to drag everyone's
02:37:20.800attention back to this thing you need to be kind of weird like us but you know there's that old
02:37:26.400maxim you know the front page news they could lie on the french page but by the time they admit that
02:37:32.140it was a lie the admission is buried days later on page six so you got to be the person ripping
02:37:38.080over the paper to page six and putting it in people's faces and they don't want to see it
02:37:42.320because you know that that would that would mean everything's on the table everything's culpable
02:37:48.000and like you said if people you need to really hold people to account in an unreasonable way
02:37:53.440sometimes because why wouldn't they go for that that's true for human beings that's true for
02:37:59.040institutions that that if no one's and they'll say well what do you want us to do and this was
02:38:04.140the same thing with the occupy movement this is any sort of movement like this give me someone
02:38:11.420fired give me someone in jail but what the erano tools of the world are doing is coming out they're
02:38:16.920saying look we all went crazy for a while and we're better now yeah that's that's a preposterous
02:38:24.860that's the that's the only wrong answer that yeah we all went nuts but we learned our lesson like
02:38:30.040Like, no one learns a lesson just on their own.
02:38:34.220And you can't even tell me what you did wrong.
02:38:37.580If you ask them, like, can you name a thing you would do differently?
02:38:45.620I'm only aware of one current MP who is now tiptoeing into this,
02:38:55.180that's dean allison who who has um brought out his allison inquiry uh and is going to do it at
02:39:04.220parliament it's not a parliamentary committee or a parliamentary inquiry but it sort of has the
02:39:09.900the look and the feel to it um and and he is a member of parliament who is uh going to do some
02:39:20.620public hearings on vaccine injuries and um but it's interesting when you look at that
02:39:28.220it is just conservative mp allison it is not uh the conservative party uh chaired by allison
02:39:38.220doing this uh vaccine injury inquiry it's not the parliament of canada doing this vaccine
02:39:45.340injury inquiry it's him on his own so i think you know um he's we're probably seeing
02:39:57.680um you know i think this would be a probably a fair evaluation is uh dean allison probably
02:40:08.660won't be running in the next election and he's decided that in this last term he will uh go out
02:40:17.800and and do what he knows is the proper thing to do uh and they won't be able to um hurt him too
02:40:27.820too much do you think this speaks and this is an uncomfortable topic for some but this speaks to
02:40:34.920just the nature of the uh canadian people that they're just not ready to talk about this because
02:40:41.160you look at the conservative party and they don't want to touch this but it could this could to my
02:40:46.760mind this could be something they could really sink their teeth into because i believe that the
02:40:51.160conservative party has always been struggling for what they actually represent other than just being
02:40:56.520against whatever the liberals are proposing completely reactionary but what are you for
02:41:01.160I'm like, this could be a topic for you guys, but the fact that they haven't embraced that tells me maybe their constituency, the conservative party donors and the people, they're not even willing to talk about this yet because that would strike too strongly at the entire system itself, and they're scared of that.
03:04:01.900And, you know, 30 years later, um, uh, my, my youngest son is a tradesman.
03:04:09.940And that home that I bought at two times my salary would cost him, the same home, would cost him about 10 times his yearly salary.
03:04:26.300Um, the new vehicle that, um, uh, new pickup truck, uh, that cost me, um, um, not even half, uh, not even a quarter, maybe a quarter of my yearly salary would now cost him triple his salary.
03:04:52.160So, you know, we go through and look at things in purchasing, relative purchasing powers, and, you know, we did have a very good country.
03:05:08.860I was very fortunate to be brought into a very good, prosperous, and free country.
03:05:18.340and i've been fighting to try to get that back for my children and grandchildren but
03:05:27.840i i take your point and i think it's important is these younger people need to understand
03:05:36.280what it was like and what it is that they ought to be striving for and it's not universal basic
03:05:45.020income it's not a shared uh one bedroom apartment with three of their buddies and taking turns on
03:05:54.860the couches um you know uh it's it's not working at tim hortons or mcdonald's or um you know these
03:06:05.740These are, people need to understand that the younger generations have been totally fucked and screwed by the actions of my generation and others in our governments that we've elected.
03:06:25.520Yeah, and I think it's important to always frame this along those terms, and this could be the thing we end on.
03:06:30.800And I'm glad you said that because I always tell people, especially younger people, keep in view what it is you actually want.
03:06:39.240Because what they'll do is try and trick you into diverting you to something else.