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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.720 blood satellite i came across this wikipedia article that reminded me of you oh no look at

00:00:24.320 potentially dangerous taxpayer yeah that's me it's just a thing a real thing from the world

00:00:33.460 and it says potentially dangerous taxpayer is a government designation assigned by the irs

00:00:39.180 to taxpayers of the united states of america who irs officials claim to have demonstrated

00:00:44.380 a capacity for violence against employees of the irs or other government agencies contractors or

00:00:50.560 their families uh these cases are handled by the treasury inspector general for tax administration

00:00:56.500 they need to make up velcro patches with that say pdt on them so you can put it on your on your kit

00:01:02.440 because dangerous would be like oh i've assaulted a tax man before but this is potentially yeah which

00:01:09.420 i assume would have to be everyone yeah well and this also implies that the irs has a department

00:01:16.200 whose job it is to evaluate the potential danger of individual taxpayers like there's a somebody

00:01:21.800 down there with a rubric and they're going through your your tax records and ranking you

00:01:27.160 how much does this guy hate taxes on a scale of 99 to 100

00:01:35.720 on a scale of zero and one the binary scale

00:01:39.000 zero being do not know what taxes are and one being you want to do terrorism against whoever

00:01:48.020 is responsible for taxes those really are the only two options i mean you've really struck gold

00:01:54.120 there you either don't know what taxes are or you want to kill the ones responsible there's only two

00:01:59.200 you're either potentially dangerous to this infrastructure of taxes or you're in a coma

00:02:06.640 sir you are a sleep brother and in fairness if you are a citizen and you don't know what taxes are

00:02:14.260 you are also potentially dangerous in a way aren't you so technically we're all potentially

00:02:19.940 dangerous taxpayers together can you imagine you just didn't pay your taxes for 20 years and they

00:02:25.000 catch up to you and you said i didn't know i had to do that nobody told me who tells you you have

00:02:31.000 to pay taxes don't do that in school it's like the guy you're joking about the guy finding out

00:02:35.980 the holocaust for the first time he's such a denier that he doesn't even believe like he hadn't heard

00:02:40.060 of it that's one of our old bits the holocaust denier who commits so deeply to the bit he

00:02:44.380 forgets about the holocaust yeah and then he learns about it from another june and it's like

00:02:49.980 oh so you're saying six million men women and children died yes what what what do you mean

00:02:58.860 no where did you get no i would know that can't be right you gotta have you gotta have proof of

00:03:02.940 that that can't be real that's tragic that's that would be if that were real that would be the

00:03:06.780 biggest disaster in human history just like haha nice try but with this is like they finally chase

00:03:13.260 you down after 20 years of not paying your taxes like wait wait wait you're telling me i was

00:03:17.180 supposed to pay for these governments i feel i feel terrible well that's an amazing system you

00:03:24.380 you like start like glowing up the loving taxes yeah i am so i'm so sorry but i deeply respect

00:03:33.380 you and your position okay this is violently sarcastic

00:03:37.100 it's i you and i love paying taxes leave my family out of this

00:03:44.460 see this is how you start a show there we go this is this is how you start a show

00:03:51.000 So take note, Gio Pinaccetti.

00:03:53.880 I don't know if you heard, but I might have killed the Digital Archipelago.

00:03:58.260 Wicked.

00:03:58.960 That's not good.

00:03:59.600 I thought it was him who was doing the interracial gay porn.

00:04:02.100 It was, but I...

00:04:03.720 But he pinned it on you.

00:04:05.120 My essence has extracted this from him.

00:04:09.560 So for people who don't know, Digital Archipelago, a show that we've been on, both of us, I was on a couple of times as well.

00:04:15.980 One of my favorite shows with Prudentialist and Gio Pinaccetti.

00:04:21.000 I don't know if this is kayfabe, but Prudentialist has marked that the terminus of Digital Archibelago, the last one that I was on, called Collapse, fittingly.

00:04:33.680 I do not need this pinned to me.

00:04:36.160 I don't need Podcast Killer on my reputation.

00:04:39.500 The way they started the show was Gio was very enthused about Kanye West posting interracial porn, which I have not seen, but I immediately believe that's something Kanye West would do.

00:04:54.660 That's what he'd do.

00:04:55.300 And he was trying to dissect it with a Lacanian analysis by saying that he was posting interracial porn, but he ended it with a KKK video.

00:05:05.980 And he was saying that this was culturally relevant and he kept going on and on and prudential stuff.

00:05:11.980 At this point, he's got a gun in his mouth and pointed at Gio as well.

00:05:17.100 He can talk double fisting.

00:05:18.940 Murder, suicide.

00:05:20.220 Right away.

00:05:20.860 And me, threading the needle, riding the line, going, go on.

00:05:25.300 yes and say more things yeah which was not the right energy to bring to the situation this is

00:05:34.320 such a bizarre set of topics did he at any point stop pause and say no no no no no i can't i can't

00:05:41.280 i can't i can't well prude was saying that he he was pleading joe please stop i hate this

00:05:48.620 don't do this anymore and she was like no no no wait wait wait wait wait because because and then

00:05:54.700 he kept describing it more and more and the chat is fuming oh i love geo and i'm just grinning ear

00:06:02.420 to ear i'm like i maybe this is a bit i'm in a bit okay obviously right we are also bringing it

00:06:08.400 to blood satellite we are discussing it now here we are for the record i was because geo was trying

00:06:13.260 to figure out what it could mean what does this mean of course the interracial kkk porn and i

00:06:19.780 had said well i think connie west is just a pervert yeah he's like really i'm like yeah

00:06:25.260 he's a schizophrenic pervert because yeah connie west he's he's obsessed with obsessed with butts

00:06:30.800 and cum and that's all he talks about it's all over his lyrics also very low iq black man here's

00:06:37.420 the thing he doesn't just post porn he posts politics through a porn prism porn is his language

00:06:45.260 that's how coom-brained

00:06:47.680 this man is like he's using

00:06:49.700 porn to say something about race

00:06:51.640 in America yeah but that's his thing like

00:06:53.240 he can only apprehend

00:06:56.080 political ideas with like

00:06:57.900 things flying

00:06:59.840 into an anus he hates

00:07:01.660 Jews now because

00:07:03.700 he hated white people five years

00:07:05.880 ago

00:07:06.200 oh burn everything like gasoline oh burn everything

00:07:15.400 like gasoline posting international porn on maine is like peak jew so he's just trying to out jew the

00:07:24.420 jews if anything he's pissed at jews for doing what he would have should have done to himself

00:07:29.140 so he was in an interview with dj academics who's just this hip-hop interviewer and he was dressed

00:07:36.640 in a black klansman outfit which i assume he had custom made for himself i don't think they sell

00:07:43.380 those even when he was interviewing he had made a comment that jews work for white men

00:07:49.960 it's like i could change hearts and minds perception but at the end of the day you still

00:07:56.140 got to go work for a white man you still got to work for a jewish man that works for a white man

00:07:59.740 the the black dollar has been so decentralized since gentrification and the fall of black wall

00:08:07.760 street that is next to impossible for a community to get on their feet get past the drugs the food

00:08:14.520 the food's original drug oh my god oh here we go what is this this is a tangle of inferior nonsense

00:08:22.100 like that just pissed everyone off you got nobody on your side now even jews don't admit that they

00:08:27.640 work for white people well apparently he has some people on us it's just still people believing that

00:08:31.500 he's our guy and he's playing 5d chess and he's going to be president and all this shit so come

00:08:37.780 on anyone who pitched their wagon to that train should you know i'm going down that road we're

00:08:45.460 trying to pretend that didn't happen we're trying to pretend that everyone wasn't really excited

00:08:49.580 about that what happened thinking yeah he's got some 11th hour plan that's in the memory hole

00:08:54.800 already yeah yeah uh speaking of ways to start a show i got another thing here um a book someone

00:09:02.780 sent to me uh the title is semenology uh the semen bartender's handbook i think they need a

00:09:12.320 space between hand and book there uh this is the ultimate handbook for mixologists looking for

00:09:17.920 ingredients that go beyond erotic fruit exotic fruit juices and rare spirits driven by commitment

00:09:25.120 and passion for the freshly harvested ingredient seminology pushes the limits of classic bartending

00:09:31.600 and as i read that freshly harvested ingredients is the operative phrase here wow you can't just

00:09:39.040 have a jar of this stuff you can't go under the bed and grab the jar with the buzz light you're

00:09:44.720 figurine in it right you are a geek goop nerd fuck i mean can't maybe not can't shouldn't

00:09:51.820 you know it would be a faux pas if you did yeah yeah i mean you can make it for yourself that's

00:09:57.820 called a house pour if if burger king had uh you know semen margaritas they would probably be from

00:10:05.100 under the this is this is what i would expect from a burger king from wendy's even yes i know

00:10:11.680 there's pods back it'll wind up on tech talk and people are saying like oh yeah you see the sign

00:10:16.140 out front and they say freshly harvested semen guess what we have an insider he's taking video

00:10:21.420 and here it is look at that look at that he's taking the semen from the cum box it's under the

00:10:25.840 couch look at these motherfuckers it's false advertising that shit's frozen it's artificial

00:10:30.760 it's fucking grown in a lab it's not even real cum it they say always fresh and zoom in there

00:10:37.060 blow the dust off the side there's scare quotes around it the classic scare quotes on the always

00:10:45.240 fresh they got me they got me with the cum cubes once again humiliation but it's difficult for me

00:10:52.320 to imagine a recipe from this book that isn't just you know make a negroni then whack off in it

00:11:00.600 yeah like how how i'm looking at other cook with like semen cooking semen desserts like it has to

00:11:08.380 be so you make a key lime pie then you whack off on it do you think it's real though because like

00:11:15.320 it's got the do you look at the author's name it's rickard gagner it's rickard gagner

00:11:23.360 also by

00:11:26.160 Paul Foti

00:11:27.760 Fodenhauer

00:11:29.080 yeah like this is not real

00:11:30.700 it would be great if somebody actually bought the book

00:11:35.500 and every single page just said fag fag

00:11:37.560 fag fag fag

00:11:38.200 you should drink faggot

00:11:42.400 did we make this book

00:11:46.120 shit

00:11:46.920 this is written by

00:11:50.200 c.man

00:11:52.060 and see that man and peter nuss look at them oh fuck

00:12:00.140 wait wait i just i'm sorry i've seen this cover because somebody posted it

00:12:05.820 and i didn't even get the photo until now it's like a snifter of brandy it is but there is

00:12:11.560 actually come pouring into the snifter of brandy that is what it is yeah i didn't in my head i

00:12:17.860 can't process it i thought it was just brandy but i'm like wait that's not the right color

00:12:21.820 That image is what the book would be.

00:12:24.660 It was like, yeah, so get a fucking glass of Chablis and dump cum in it.

00:12:31.420 What else could it be?

00:12:32.660 What else could it be?

00:12:33.340 It's got to be that.

00:12:34.620 It has to be that.

00:12:35.500 And then all the reviews are like, you know, he made semen eating seem, if not reasonable, then at least mostly harmless.

00:12:44.380 That's what you want your book to be.

00:12:46.640 My recipes are mostly harmless.

00:12:48.780 and then there are the photos which give new meaning to the phrase food porn so yeah

00:12:56.520 imagine watching porn but you just zoom in on like there's no people and it's just i like the

00:13:03.860 fluids i'm a fluids guy you you said between shows last week you were gonna stop doing the

00:13:10.840 rape stuff because it was too coarse but here we are do you want to know where that came from

00:13:15.360 we can talk about this yeah let's do it so last week i went to see the million dollar extreme

00:13:21.600 stand-up show uh they're on tour they did a canadian leg of the tour and i saw them in

00:13:27.440 oshawa they did toronto and oshawa driving through oshawa is a trip because we both grew up there

00:13:32.980 haven't been back there in quite some time and it's this old decrepit steel town that we know

00:13:39.360 very well and many people we know are probably still there and as i'm driving in it's already

00:13:45.440 raining and i'm driving by it's all abandoned parking lots the route i was taking with piles

00:13:52.420 of garbage in the middle i remember driving by saying i miss this

00:13:57.020 i don't know what it is you can call me crazy it doesn't make sense i can't explain it

00:14:04.940 yeah but uh i saw him like this is i get this these are my people because then i go to the club

00:14:12.380 and i park in another parking lot and i could see the lineup out front it's pouring rain

00:14:17.360 and it's all guys who look like me and a surprising amount of women and uh i stand in line

00:14:24.980 and there's a woman kind of hunched over eating slices of pear out of a margarine container

00:14:31.860 yeah i'm like yeah i said yeah what a concept there's there's a thing i kind of only clued in

00:14:38.940 on recently i guess but mde and uh maybe connor o'malley and some of these comedians go out of

00:14:46.380 their way to film their shit in like industrial blight and like the worst to pick the worst part

00:14:52.760 of the city like ironically to make it look awful but watching that as a teenager it's like oh it's

00:14:57.980 like songs of my people this is just they're they're just like me like no no they had to drive

00:15:02.960 specifically there to get the worst fucking shot it's not because you know because our whole

00:15:07.720 hometown just looks like that the entire way because i'm looking i'm going to the club

00:15:12.640 and is not a good club but also what is the good club in oshawa yeah they made a comment of it that

00:15:20.140 there's you go in there and there's like obstructive pillars everywhere which you don't

00:15:24.620 want in a club and just logos branded irregularly all over the wall and just like a fucking looping

00:15:31.620 video of like cyberpunk trance in the background just playing silently constantly it doesn't make

00:15:40.000 any fucking sense this doesn't make sense as a club oh i love it i love it and it converted that

00:15:44.980 into just a comedy club right there's a little stage at the front and uh yeah it was charles

00:15:50.500 and nick rochefort and sam and the opener was a guy named alex who they work with who is

00:15:57.380 working on the world peace 2 show yeah it was packed i think 250 people there's two shows and

00:16:05.100 both of them are packed i managed to get a seat but it was like seating plus standing um i can

00:16:11.680 describe to you what exactly happened i'm going to describe it without spoiling any of the bits

00:16:16.640 because there's a few bits in there that were really good

00:16:20.700 and they don't want you taking recordings of it

00:16:24.320 and playing it elsewhere

00:16:24.960 because I think this is what comedians do.

00:16:27.100 They workshop this and they tour it

00:16:28.460 and they polish it into something.

00:16:30.760 I don't want to blow up anybody's spot,

00:16:33.320 but I will say it was about what you expected it would be

00:16:37.700 and that can be both good and bad.

00:16:41.160 So the first guy was Chris Lynch

00:16:44.280 who god love him did take two terrible jokes back to back and but then he was just introing

00:16:51.800 the next guy who was alex uh the guy they're working on the show with and i'll just describe

00:16:57.300 to you what happened he comes up white guy pretty lean white guy dressed in brown face and a turban

00:17:03.780 and a hockey jersey runs up with and just does like an indian voice for like 10 minutes

00:17:10.760 and you're hearing this and you're laughing right because this is how this stuff works like when i

00:17:17.480 describe these bits to people i'm like they're like that's fucking wild it is it's funny to me

00:17:23.160 for the first like 10 seconds and then you got like seven more minutes of it seven more minutes

00:17:27.960 of him doing a real just screaming indian in an indian accent that he likes to eat poop and he

00:17:34.980 wants to rape white women and then just again again and hitting you with it i'm just like i'm

00:17:40.320 laughing and then at some point i'm just like okay like even even us right how many fucking

00:17:48.040 hours of indian shit do we have on this show but i'm like okay yeah like you're just bobbing your

00:17:52.920 head back on i am indian i am fucking retard i want to rape i'm like okay yep but a minute six

00:18:01.340 okay i am i am compulsively laughing but i do get it that there's a there's a limit yeah and even

00:18:08.320 like charles runs up he bounds up on stage he's the next guy up and uh when i say it's about what

00:18:14.020 you'd expect he was he had a like a five minute bit about oh how he went to epstein island and

00:18:22.720 brutally tortured and raped and killed stephen hawking and it's a type of joke you see some

00:18:29.940 other comedians right i've seen um doug stanhope do something like this i think i saw big jokerson

00:18:35.420 do it where the joke is that it goes on really really long and you're just describing something

00:18:41.580 abhorrent like when uh doug anope did it it was like some closer he did one of his specials where

00:18:47.180 he's just describing a fantasy he had where he had he gay raped one of the like what some in some nfl

00:18:53.980 game some black guy you watch monday night football or super bowl they have cameras now that come down

00:19:00.860 on cables right over the field like right over the players heads almost touching them you have

00:19:07.740 60 inches of high definition you have a camera panning around 11 men bent up in a huddle

00:19:17.020 presenting these beautiful thick man asses and it's zooming in on each one and it creates this

00:19:26.620 bangkok whorehouse scenario and he's describing in very lure detail like coming in his anus right

00:19:34.860 and like you're supposed to just be saying like this is wild what the am i listening to

00:19:39.660 but i'm just like uh-huh okay beat him in the eye and you his eye socket out and i okay

00:19:45.980 and a lot of rape jokes which again is great we who who doesn't love rape jokes but i will say

00:19:54.220 after the whole set in total i was like maybe i got a reel in the rape jokes because seeing it

00:20:00.980 reflected back at me and was just like i took up my fucking rape gun and i raped this bitch and i

00:20:06.020 said happy rape day i was like uh-huh because it is sort of like a cheat code because it is funny

00:20:12.160 but if you just slap that on the end you'll get a laugh but it can't you can't just slap rape on

00:20:18.300 stuff which is what maybe i'm guilty of so it really made me think about some things yeah but

00:20:24.800 it's charles and he kind of peppers in space like my favorite bit he did was just almost apropos of

00:20:31.340 nothing going yeah you ever been to space yeah there it is you ever seen a nuke yeah there it is

00:20:37.180 and just like throw it in space it's fake nukes fake i'm like oh yeah yeah nick came up next and

00:20:43.700 his was the most professional i think and that it seemed like a regular sam said he's doing crowd

00:20:50.060 work he's up there he's doing impressions he's kind of making he's referencing oshawa he called

00:20:56.260 it like a giant liquefied gas container sam i think was the best that's probably why he's the

00:21:02.740 headliner and i will say he had one of the best like an opener bit one of the best bits i think

00:21:09.900 i've ever seen from any comedian yeah maybe it's just because when you're in a club you're in a

00:21:14.700 space that's conducive to laughter you're in a club you want to laugh no one wants to have a bad

00:21:19.300 time in a club so sometimes you'll find yourself laughing at shit that you wouldn't laugh at if

00:21:23.120 you were just watching it on youtube things need to be really funny on video to get a laugh like

00:21:28.180 by yourself in your living room but i'm there and i'm laughing but it was i'm not going to say it

00:21:32.460 and i know this is stupid to do it starts by describing a guy who he used to work with who

00:21:38.380 used to do music for a million dollar extreme that's how the bit starts yeah and it goes on

00:21:43.600 for like six minutes and it built it's like a roller coaster of emotions and it builds to the

00:21:49.880 point where he's like screaming at the audience and fighting people and it's one of the greatest

00:21:54.860 things i've ever seen like he's in the crowd i have a photo and i might share it of like he found

00:22:00.400 a guy whose arm was in a cast and was raising it in the air and like shaking it around i actually

00:22:06.320 wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was but uh yeah no it was a wild time i really liked it i

00:22:12.400 would recommend people go also as the night went on it's full of their fans right right full of

00:22:19.880 people that we would probably know so as they got a bit tipsy as they imbibed in the drink a lot of

00:22:26.700 them started getting a little too confident they started thinking like oh you know this is these

00:22:31.800 are my people i can start yelling things back at the stage no no no no no i can start doing

00:22:37.840 comedy i can start answering rhetorical questions it's like it's it's never been good no one's ever

00:22:44.400 done it guys there's been like 12 hecklers in the history of comedy that made it work

00:22:49.620 but you know fucking sam would say something like oh so i was going to a holiday inn and then some

00:22:55.680 fucking chudge with a blonde afro goes a holiday in like loud enough that oh dude he's in the show

00:23:05.000 now and like i bet this happens all the time i bet especially with sam especially with that crowd

00:23:10.940 especially these guys who have a parasocial relationship yes these guys will like it

00:23:15.320 they'll like that i'm creative too they're like no no this is stand-up rules you need to shut the

00:23:20.400 fuck up and but they're not the types of guys who would like bum rush these guys out and make fun of

00:23:26.660 them so but i i have to imagine that happens all the fucking time people like i'm a comedian too

00:23:31.760 now i paid i paid a ticket so i'm a comedian we're all comedians here because we we talk about jews

00:23:39.040 sometimes so you were supposed to come and you didn't you like yeah well it's a lot it's a lot

00:23:47.480 it's a lot of

00:23:49.260 I'm fucking

00:23:51.000 broke and dumb so

00:23:52.640 I'm dumb

00:23:54.680 I'm an idiot if I was only smarter

00:23:57.380 I would have gone

00:23:58.280 get your hand off my penis

00:24:00.180 what is the charge eating a succulent Chinese

00:24:03.460 fuck you Judas

00:24:04.560 you know what I've never liked

00:24:06.140 I've never liked

00:24:07.440 comedy shows and parasocial shit

00:24:10.500 I tend to get not paranoid but I don't like

00:24:12.660 the idea sometimes of going to something where it's

00:24:14.820 like even like you know even the

00:24:16.400 the event that we did in december was kind of half like i don't really want to go

00:24:20.320 well because you know what like sam had so many jokes like the back third of his set was just

00:24:29.040 about how violent black people are and you look around and the entire security staff is black

00:24:34.380 and i'm in a very precarious position because anytime he screams the phrase violent black

00:24:42.240 which he does i i'm fighting the urge to look at not look at them you know what i mean like i can't

00:24:48.100 look over them yeah either approval or disapproval like i need to stay staring straight ahead i don't

00:24:53.900 want to know how they're reacting to this yeah because then later on i need to ask them where

00:24:57.700 the washroom is uh i want to show you there's a bit of news that we need to follow up on

00:25:04.140 and i don't know this proves us right or wrong and i'm sure you've seen this is dropping just

00:25:09.940 this week. So Trump, I'm looking at the CBC right now, here's the headline, Trump slaps retaliatory

00:25:18.720 tariffs on dozens of countries, but Canada is spared the worst of this. Threatened tariffs

00:25:25.280 on Mexico and Canada. They were repeatedly threatened, repeatedly rescinded or lifted,

00:25:32.360 but they might well be back again, who knows. But for the time being, they're gone. We know

00:25:37.140 we've got an extra 10% tariffs on China, China 1.0,

00:25:41.340 then another extra 10% tariffs on China, 2.0, you might call them.

00:25:46.060 So you see all of these bars go up by 10%, including, of course, the UK.

00:25:52.760 But that, as far as the White House is concerned, is just a baseline.

00:25:56.220 And then on top of that, there are different tariffs for different nations,

00:26:00.580 what they call reciprocal tariffs.

00:26:02.400 And they say they've gone through the numbers,

00:26:04.400 they've looked at not just the tariffs that other countries around the world

00:26:07.040 charging the u.s but also uh what they call non-tariff barriers so other things and they've

00:26:12.000 worked out uh by the way canada those mexico canada tariffs might well come back so we might

00:26:16.380 well start from that position so it seems that tariffs are official however it seems that

00:26:22.680 canada after everything has been said we've discussed this on the show i don't i don't

00:26:27.960 actually agree i saw somebody post that but i also watched his liberty day speech and what he'd

00:26:35.060 said in march was there are going to be tariffs on canada and march but he's delaying them until

00:26:40.580 april 2nd and then what he announced today was he made no comment about canada and mexico but he did

00:26:47.200 add you know 60 other countries or however many to the list so the way i read that and i'm waiting

00:26:53.400 for clarification tomorrow but the way i read it is not only are canada and mexico under tariffs

00:26:59.640 but so is everybody else it's not that we got off the hook because he would have had to go back and

00:27:04.680 say hey get you know what canada i'm gonna cancel the tariffs but he didn't say that he just didn't

00:27:09.360 say shit because it says right here trump slapped a 25 percent tariff on canadian goods and 10 on

00:27:17.520 energy last month supposedly in response to drugs and migrants coming to the u.s but made some

00:27:23.160 exceptions for importers who can prove the products they're bringing in from canada are complicit

00:27:27.040 with the USMCA, the US-Canada-Mexico agreement.

00:27:32.580 And then so I don't think any of those are rolling back,

00:27:36.140 although that's a very porous definition of a tariff.

00:27:39.940 So it's like, I'm slapping a tariff on you

00:27:41.280 unless you can prove that your product

00:27:43.120 isn't what illegal migrants or fentanyl, I guess.

00:27:47.840 You know what I mean?

00:27:48.640 It doesn't make any sense.

00:27:50.020 So this was one of our interpretations

00:27:52.560 where we were frustrated by this 51st state rhetoric that's still popping up but it seemed to

00:27:58.880 be that he was playing footsie with tariffs the entire entire time going back and forth and back

00:28:03.640 and forth saying he's doing it and saying why is canada pushing back so hard it's very irresponsible

00:28:08.440 i mean they would threaten our energy the tariffs are in place though are they not like as of not

00:28:12.800 not currently but when we were recording this it's 9 50 on wednesday april 2nd within three hours

00:28:18.900 two hours the tariffs will be in place because he hasn't withdrawn them so yeah right well i guess

00:28:25.140 but based on the definition of the tariffs which was that it's it's a 25 tariff unless you can

00:28:30.660 prove the product they're bringing in from canada complicit with the agreement just on faith then

00:28:36.420 whether or not we think they're gonna roll over and just let everybody make that application

00:28:40.820 or whether that's just to soften the blow and they're gonna let nobody make that application

00:28:44.820 So it's almost the same shit with him waffling on the date.

00:28:49.300 We're going to find out in the wash over the next month how many people even get.

00:28:52.680 That's what Carney says.

00:28:54.480 And by the way, Carney, he's the prime minister, and they're talking about him.

00:28:58.760 They're not asking Polyev about this, obviously.

00:29:01.420 So Carney said the White House has signaled to Canada that there may be more U.S. tariffs at a later date on other strategic sectors, such as pharmaceuticals, lumber, and semiconductors.

00:29:12.860 um so it's it's a piecemeal sort of tariff it's like if it was just a tariff it would be a tariff

00:29:19.060 but it's this other thing which makes it sound like yeah it's not real even it's like it's a

00:29:25.540 i mean it is a tariff but it's a tariff on specific products which yeah i mean a a broad

00:29:30.500 tariff on imports from the entire nation is a pretty aggressive thing to do but uh yeah well

00:29:36.860 we'll see we'll see what happens honestly there's still not enough information you know what there

00:29:41.380 is information on this i'm looking at wired trump tariffs hit antarctic islands inhabited by zero

00:29:47.740 humans is that real though yeah the herd and mcdonald islands are among the dozens of targets

00:29:53.280 of president donald trump's latest round of tariffs but there have been no experts because

00:29:57.420 no one lives there this is a real thing so one would wonder was he trying to impose a tariff on

00:30:03.900 the mcdonald's restaurant but i i choose to be optimistic i choose to say this is what i voted

00:30:13.520 for i did not vote i want you and i saying not my president this is this is or is not what i

00:30:22.540 voted for is just it really sums up the mood i think this is what i voted for i want him to put

00:30:28.900 a hundred percent tariff on these fucking penguins goddamn penguins he assumes that in the next

00:30:33.700 four years there will be significant industrial output from those penguins so he's jumping the

00:30:39.740 shark here this is classic art of the deal it's a stir in the pot can i just say i just want to say

00:30:45.700 it's 5d chess it's 5d chess yeah so the whole point of 5d chess is you can't see the other

00:30:53.320 dimensions the point about 5d chess a lot people forget this is you never know what's going on

00:31:00.680 yeah you're always confused and frustrated by definition it is multiverse chess

00:31:05.080 you know instead of saying 5d chess you could say i'm confused and angry

00:31:09.820 let's just go back through the the newsreel for the past 10 years and just swap that phrase

00:31:19.840 how would you feel if you were actually playing 5d chess you'd be very today announced tariffs

00:31:26.320 against all of his allies many of his supporters are now saying i'm confused and angry i'm confused

00:31:32.540 and angry have you guys ever played 5d chess it fucking sucks um i'm also looking at this article

00:31:42.200 here looking at the daily mail and i've only just caught wind of this and this is sort of a

00:31:48.900 developing story, but outrage grows over Marine Le Pen's blocked presidential run. Trump and

00:31:55.700 European allies offer support as tyrannical judges are accused of depriving millions of people

00:32:00.660 of their representation. So what happened to Marine? Have you heard about this with

00:32:04.020 Marine Le Pen? Yeah, I did. I didn't catch all the details, but I saw the headline.

00:32:07.300 Until today, she was in poll position to stand in the next French presidential elections in 2027.

00:32:16.840 And she was there as favourite, potentially a winner.

00:32:22.580 But this court ruling has completely ruined her ambitions.

00:32:27.700 That Paris court finding her guilty of embezzling European Union funds

00:32:33.320 meant to be spent in Brussels.

00:32:35.340 She was found guilty of using them for her party in France.

00:32:39.260 I think she knew that the guilty verdict was coming.

00:32:42.300 She did leave court early before sentencing.

00:32:44.560 she didn't hear that sentencing in person four years in prison le pen on monday was convicted

00:32:53.460 of creating fake jobs at the eu parliament taking advantage of expenses to employ assistance

00:32:58.840 they're all fake jobs but well that's what i was saying like these are all fake jobs you don't

00:33:04.120 exist this is all bullshit yeah she was accused of having too many aids what the fuck you talking

00:33:11.560 about like like all of you are guilty of insider trading you can't tell me otherwise you can't tell

00:33:16.220 me that you're not all criminals right now but the matriarch of the hard right national rally party

00:33:23.520 was barred from running for office for five years and given a four-year prison sentence

00:33:27.820 although she will not go to jail as half of it was suspended and the rest will be served

00:33:31.880 with an electronic tag in order to pay a hundred thousand dollars uh 24 people including lapin

00:33:39.200 were convicted all of them were party officials yeah so i i just think this this is a stitch up

00:33:44.240 a lot of people are interpreting this as like oh you just can't run as a far-right party right that

00:33:50.860 that's what you would say yeah that this is bullshit so you know when people this is just

00:33:56.200 to remind people that there's no political solution yes thank you that's what it is even

00:34:01.460 someone like the national rally and we're not le pen people we're not marine le pen people and you

00:34:07.860 she's not even that far right to be frank well precisely and that's why but you know she's

00:34:13.480 probably closer than others but we're not waving the flag however even that will not be permitted

00:34:20.740 yep right and so when you say there's no political solution you can't run any candidate they will

00:34:26.920 just arrest them and say that well you know you guys were abusing taxpayer dollars you're all

00:34:32.300 abusing taxpayer dollars every single one of you is a crook you like what i saw yeah you don't

00:34:40.640 follow hip-hop but kendrick lamar came out with the song not like us it was a diss track towards

00:34:47.100 drake it became this smash hit it won like five grannies why you trolling like a bitch ain't you

00:34:55.020 tired trying to strike a chord and it's probably a minor

00:34:57.860 they not like us they not like us they not like us they not like us they not like us

00:35:10.920 they not like um and it's played everywhere a billion streams way bigger than it deserves to

00:35:17.000 be um i won't get into the you know inflation of those numbers but one of the lyrics in there

00:35:23.580 He's accusing Drake of being a pedophile.

00:35:25.940 He calls him a pedophile.

00:35:28.140 And, you know, trying to hit a chord.

00:35:30.540 And it's probably A minor.

00:35:32.660 And then he's at the Grammys rapping that to an audience where at least half of them are pedophiles.

00:35:39.920 At the very least, half of Hollywood is a child rapist.

00:35:44.460 And they're out there trying to dunk on Drake, laughing that he's been called a pedophile.

00:35:50.780 I'm comparing that to this, saying that.

00:35:52.800 like you know marine le pen like she she's misappropriating taxpayer dollars she i think

00:35:57.860 you know what she might be inflating the requirements of her bureaucratic support like

00:36:03.720 they obviously do but they think that we the listener don't know which is why they're saying

00:36:09.140 it because it's all a game and there is no political solution so the uk has been even worse

00:36:14.080 did you see they uh they're changing the law now they're actually creating two-tier sentencing

00:36:19.260 so if you're brown or from an immigrant family they're going to reduce your sentencing like as

00:36:25.140 a matter of law so and it seems between that and then between them disarming apparently and uh you

00:36:32.180 know the what are they the afp in germany like there's no hope there's no hope in europe i mean

00:36:38.840 we say there's no political solution there's no political solution anywhere but in europe i mean

00:36:43.600 they're even more far gone than we are so pray for them i guess i'm gonna pull something up here

00:36:49.840 if you want some news that'll fuck you right up there it is that's the stuff i'm looking at

00:36:57.720 the intercept and this is the title the cia just invested in woolly mammoth resurrection technology

00:37:05.880 a little late but nice yeah not uh not in time to save them unfortunately no i mean like this

00:37:12.460 has been talked about and

00:37:14.180 researched and attempted for like 30

00:37:16.420 years already so they're

00:37:18.480 just like this is like

00:37:20.360 them saying they've invested in fusion technology

00:37:22.540 like cool yes

00:37:24.360 cool but also could you not have done it

00:37:26.500 like when my parents were kids

00:37:27.960 this is the prelude they always

00:37:30.300 skip out on in Jurassic Park

00:37:32.500 because this is like Jurassic Park shit here

00:37:34.300 it's like because remember Jurassic Park

00:37:36.020 the entire premise was they

00:37:37.580 spliced dinosaur DNA with

00:37:40.400 lizard dna to create these chimeras which is why they're so lizard-like so they're basically doing

00:37:46.060 this here this is how it starts and they're doing the lamest thing they could like they're doing

00:37:52.140 all of the animals that deserve to be extinct i'll tell you what's going to happen five six years

00:37:57.820 from now the entire project is going to go bust it's going to be sold off we're never going to

00:38:03.080 hear from it again and then 10 years after that hugo chavez's rogue son is going to be killed in

00:38:08.680 freak woolly mammoth accident and nobody knows where that came from and by that time people have

00:38:14.280 heard about woolly mammoths have been poisoned too it's like yeah yeah woolly mammoths that's

00:38:18.600 one of those woolly mammoth guys it's like ufos like we know yeah it's like project blue beam

00:38:23.720 has now got woolly mammoths incorporated and he was like yeah i know when you see the mammoths

00:38:27.640 you know what this is a distraction from hunter biden project blue beam was just getting people

00:38:33.640 tired of cool stuff yeah fuck them that's what they tried to do with the multiverse they made

00:38:39.360 it whack the worst op ever was making fun stuff gay yeah that's why that's why we'll never do

00:38:46.340 and that's why nothing's ever going to happen because we've seen everything happen yeah and

00:38:51.240 it's fucking gay as shit yep if i saw a multiverse tomorrow i'd be like oh yeah like in fucking

00:38:56.580 spider-man meets scarlet witch and thanos and i just fucking do the jack-off motion with my

00:39:03.520 hand and walk i can i can picture you doing it too if if i see an extraterrestrial tomorrow i'm

00:39:10.820 like oh what is this fucking dei cia aren't you shocked it's like bro it's been it's been a hard

00:39:18.420 week it's been a rough week for me behold i would say i don't feel anything i don't have feelings

00:39:27.460 anymore do you want would you like to see the garden of eden like okay are we doing this do

00:39:36.380 we have to do this like look i'm honestly it's all right it's okay right but do we have to do it now

00:39:40.760 can we just look look come on hey would you like to see the meaning of life like i'm pretty sure i

00:39:48.920 know what it is let me guess let me guess yeah it's suffering and then jack off motion with the

00:39:55.700 it's like i know what it is and i'm not telling you how about that how about you fuck off how

00:39:59.600 about i come to your planet you meet a cia woolly mammoth alien you just tell him you know how about

00:40:04.800 you fuck off how would i come to your plan like rick james get my fucking big fat nigger boots

00:40:09.360 all over your couch how about that how about how about i i walk into your fucking 5d chess match

00:40:17.500 and rip a fart real wet fart how about that's the meaning of life cia just invested in woolly

00:40:25.140 man while skeptics doubt the prospects for de-extinction judas the cia's venture capital

00:40:31.900 firm deems uh powerful genetic manipulation tools worth the money oh thank god the cia is involved

00:40:38.840 so colossal it's this organization called colossal um as rapidly advancing climate emergency

00:40:47.480 they're not even calling it climate change anymore they're just calling it a climate emergency

00:40:52.520 turns the planet ever hotter

00:40:55.480 the Dallas based biotechnology

00:40:57.840 company Colossal

00:40:59.380 Biosciences

00:41:00.540 they really fucked up not calling it mammoth

00:41:03.180 biosciences but whatever

00:41:04.440 has a vision to see the woolly mammoth

00:41:07.300 thunder upon the tundra once

00:41:09.280 again I mean even

00:41:11.060 in terms of science that's a lame vision

00:41:13.420 yeah you know what I mean

00:41:14.760 I want to see a woolly mammoth I don't

00:41:18.060 kids don't

00:41:19.420 I mean ask a kid to

00:41:21.100 they would rather have elephants right yeah do you think it's just i mean at this point because

00:41:27.840 jurassic park exists is the only economically viable proposition jurassic park like what else

00:41:34.280 how else are you going to make your money back what's the roi it's jurassic park you got to

00:41:38.520 build jurassic park only it's just mammoths and it's in fucking where alaska come on people

00:41:45.320 gonna fly up there jurassic park doesn't work unless there's the park this is why it's such

00:41:50.120 genius book that anyone could write a book about a rogue scientist packing together a dinosaur and

00:41:56.680 the dinosaur escapes no he actually had to have the the capitalist guy who wants to make it a

00:42:02.360 theme park and then takes that seriously like oh we're gonna have cups and we're gonna have blankets

00:42:07.880 and i spared no expense that's the movie it's it's not just alien so these guys are doing the

00:42:15.160 the alien thing like what if we make woolly mammoths and then what we put them up in the

00:42:19.340 arctic why to like up polar bears we've already fucked them up enough how's this is just gonna

00:42:25.940 ruin things wait what's hold on i'm just i'm you know i'm i gloss over it but the first sentence

00:42:32.060 in this article was about the climate emergency so what does that have to do with woolly mammoths

00:42:37.420 actually don't they like it cold isn't this a curse like this is evil man i can't tell if that's

00:42:44.600 them editorializing it to be funny but it seems like they're saying as the world is getting hotter

00:42:48.840 they want to make woolly mammoths so that they'll die immediately in the heat because they can't

00:42:53.840 fucking survive in the melting ice caps because it was the other way around because the thing is

00:42:58.340 there's competing theories a lot of people are saying that climate change is actually global

00:43:01.780 cooling you could have just led with that nobody would have batted an eye be like hey there's

00:43:06.060 going to be much more tundra maybe we can farm these for meat they probably are delicious i'd

00:43:11.060 buy that i'd deeply respect it if you said i want to see the woolly mammoths die off again yeah

00:43:16.940 bringing them back just to hunt them to extinction founders george church and ben lamb have already

00:43:23.900 racked up an impressive list of high-profile funders and investors including but but about

00:43:29.420 oh peter teal tony robbins paris hilton winklevoss capital quickly becoming my

00:43:38.240 And according to the public portfolio, the CIA, which is a real rogues gallery of investors.

00:43:47.180 This does actually sound like a Jurassic Park reboot.

00:43:51.880 Like it's Paris Hilton, the Winklevoss twins and the CIA.

00:43:55.140 I know exactly who I would get to play these roles and watch them get brutally slaughtered by the woolly man in the second act.

00:44:04.540 Paris Hilton, of course, playing herself.

00:44:08.240 we're blowing the dust off of army hammer he's gonna play the winklevoss twins again

00:44:12.540 like these are just everyone every bad guy you've ever seen in a film it's like yeah

00:44:17.280 we were deciding to get into um fucking with nature for really no reason colossal says it

00:44:25.800 hopes to use advanced genetic sequencing to resurrect two extinct animals the woolly mammoth

00:44:30.320 and the tasmanian tiger that died out less than a century ago one of them died off less than a

00:44:35.620 century ago not the woolly mammoth um on its website the company vows combining the science

00:44:40.920 of genetics with the business of discovery um by the way there is no business that doesn't make

00:44:46.520 any sense discovery actually um precedes business you discover something at great investment and

00:44:55.220 risk and then you can hopefully make a business around that but there is no business can you

00:45:01.100 imagine investing government funds

00:45:03.360 in a company who thought that

00:45:05.340 Discovery was a business.

00:45:07.860 Yeah, we just make money by Discovery.

00:45:09.200 That's something a fucking teenager

00:45:11.060 says.

00:45:13.820 In Q

00:45:15.240 Tell, again, another

00:45:17.180 cinematic sounding company,

00:45:20.060 like this is a Robocop

00:45:21.340 company, its new investor

00:45:23.260 is registered as a non-profit venture

00:45:25.100 capital firm funded by the CIA.

00:45:27.300 On its surface, the group funds technology

00:45:29.320 startups with the potential to safeguard national security the potential to safeguard national

00:45:34.460 security they're just they're just at the slot machine it's everything's a potential

00:45:44.160 i've got a gun there's a lot of potential in a gun

00:45:49.360 why the interest in a company like colossal which was founded with a mission to de-extinct

00:45:56.240 the woolly mammoth reads an inqtel blog post strategically it's less about the mammoths and

00:46:01.620 more about the capability ring-a-ding-ding here we go and they it's wild to me they just outright

00:46:08.940 say this biotechnology and the broader bioeconomy so let's just pause there i've never heard the

00:46:19.600 phrase bioeconomy before yeah you don't work for the intelligence services so you don't trade organs

00:46:25.740 i don't like this i don't like that this is entering the lexicon i don't like that this is

00:46:30.420 being spoken of in a way that should be normal to us like oh of course you know the bioeconomy

00:46:35.860 which we're deeply trying to pump up like what would you this is is this my when you're talking

00:46:42.580 about selling 23 me is this that is this just you trading in people's dna because i knew that was

00:46:47.600 gonna happen yep and we were talking about shit like that everyone said we're crazy but that that's

00:46:51.840 that's what this is right um it is important for all facets of our government to develop them and

00:46:59.220 have an understanding of what's possible colossal co-founder ben lamb wrote an email to the

00:47:03.900 intercepts a spokesperson for here's what i love a spokesperson for lamb stressed that while p peter

00:47:10.880 teal provided church with a hundred thousand dollars in funding to launch the woolly mammoth

00:47:16.920 project he is not a stakeholder like robin silton winklevoss capital i think you tell which sounds

00:47:23.560 like it may absolve him responsibility but it is worse because that means he's not in it to make

00:47:29.460 money yep or maybe he wants the the terms of that angel investment as they make money back in some

00:47:35.940 sense but that means he was first because he just believes in this thing he's not just trying to

00:47:41.820 ride a rocket to a 10x payday and most of those aside from the cia the rest of those investors

00:47:47.260 are a bunch of fucking retarded celebs but peter thiel is an actual insane transhumanist so yeah

00:47:54.860 and we discussed that on the last real secret coffee hours that i recorded because i've been

00:47:59.820 on a real arc discussing uh the whole bass sphere and the circulation of money into different sectors

00:48:07.340 and I finally got to Peter Thiel

00:48:08.940 and Elon Musk is somewhat related to this

00:48:12.280 and discussing what their actual religion is

00:48:14.700 because they all purport to be Christians.

00:48:17.640 Elon Musk does,

00:48:18.940 but Peter Thiel also does as a gay transhumanist

00:48:22.260 and you would think,

00:48:22.860 well, how do you square that?

00:48:24.860 How is that possible?

00:48:26.760 And the article goes into a great detail.

00:48:30.580 I think it's from The Gray Zone, I believe.

00:48:32.760 It's a long article.

00:48:33.920 And just using his quotes, his words

00:48:35.980 and showing how he came to his conclusion,

00:48:37.940 and they view Christianity from a very utilitarian point of view.

00:48:41.840 These people traditionally would have been atheists,

00:48:44.320 but then they came around and said,

00:48:45.460 well, atheism does not seem to provide the processes

00:48:50.980 to maximize human potential.

00:48:53.780 So they're just saying, well, it looks like atheism failed as software.

00:48:57.900 We need this Christianity software,

00:48:59.940 but they're trying to dissect it from a secular point of view.

00:49:03.880 And so when you hear them talk about Christianity,

00:49:05.440 they'll say well you know you know jesus christ was in a way a transhumanist like they'll say

00:49:11.200 stuff like that it'll say it's it's really about you know being against authoritarianism it's like

00:49:18.000 they just take it and take the parts they want because they just think it's expedient to their

00:49:24.840 goals they have this very california ideology silicon valley version of christianity and then

00:49:30.520 say oh but that's what they do with everything that means that anytime you've heard them ever

00:49:36.260 say a base thing a thing that you relate to you're wrong it wasn't that just like with all this

00:49:43.520 absorption of right-wing talking points and what from a distance appear to be their acceptance of

00:49:51.100 our ideas it's like no no no they just think the utility of it is expedient to their goals

00:49:56.900 you know i mean it's effective and so do they believe any of this probably not they just know

00:50:01.840 it works but don't ever make the mistake of thinking that these people are on your side

00:50:07.620 or believe in anything because these motherfuckers are also trying to resurrect woolly mammoths and

00:50:11.920 as you said they know it's going to fail they know this is fucking stupid but they just want

00:50:16.980 to know how to resurrect things yeah they just want to know how to make zombie slaves that's all

00:50:22.300 this fucking is yep yep so you think the guy who just discovered christianity from like a asian

00:50:29.780 tranny in their living room parish is going to be the guy to bring in fucking zombie slaves in the

00:50:38.300 world you think these work well they're going to make it work because that's what's happening

00:50:41.840 and by the way they're the only political force that matters right now that's the world that

00:50:46.980 we're in right now the silicon valley was always very relevant very very important to the political

00:50:51.740 process and they were always throwing their weight around throwing money around but they're the stars

00:50:56.020 now thanks to elon musk thanks to all of them zuckerberg is getting in the mix they're all

00:51:00.620 stepping out of the shadows and saying oh you guys like our insane ideas how about this one i've been

00:51:06.340 working on this for 10 years uh we've made so men can have babies but men could have babies with

00:51:11.840 like machine brains pretty cool huh and then 20 of the audience is gonna love that we just let them

00:51:19.640 know that that's acceptable well thank god that they're being honest about it now but

00:51:23.480 look at this colossal uses crispr gene editing c-r-i-s-p-r a method of genetic engineering based

00:51:31.220 on a naturally occurring type of dna sequence crispr sequences present on their own in some

00:51:37.480 bacterial cells and act as an immune defense system crispr is the use of genetic scissors

00:51:42.980 says robert klitzman a bioethicist at columbia university do you do you go to school for

00:51:50.580 bioethics yeah you do actually that's a big thing right now it's a big field yeah yeah it's like a

00:51:55.400 like a i don't like the sound of that it sounds like gene editing law would that be right yeah

00:52:01.960 i mean not law but like the it's the philosophy and morality of the the manifold terrible things

00:52:08.580 we can now do with technology CRISPR is only one of them but yeah like if you wanted to be a lawyer

00:52:14.480 of nightmares that would be this it's like you'd have to go to law school but yeah bioethics would

00:52:19.580 probably be something you would study if you wanted to become a bioethics lawyer i'm sure

00:52:24.120 my instinct tells me that if i'm taking that class in bioethics they're saying well what are

00:52:30.260 bioethics i say none of it none of this is ethical i don't i don't accept any of the stuff that you're

00:52:35.440 going to show me just out of hand it'd be cool if bioethics was the purview of the church and if

00:52:40.080 somebody who wasn't a monk claimed to be a bioethicist we just killed them that would be cool

00:52:45.160 is it bio lot is it bioethical to do this woolly mammoth no it's not i don't need to elaborate i

00:52:51.240 won't explain why it's just not yeah uh class dismissed i'm just going in and dismissing every

00:52:56.480 class this the embrace of this technology according to in qtel's blog post will help

00:53:02.400 allow us government agencies to read write and edit genetic material let's just rewind

00:53:10.560 the embrace of this technology will help allow us government agencies to read

00:53:16.640 write and edit genetic material oh they just this is just what they're saying to you yeah

00:53:23.920 this will have the cia write genetic material our government american government the constitutional

00:53:29.120 republic the small watchman state which is just there to protect you and not interfere with your

00:53:34.140 life why would why would they need gene editing technology what are they going to do with that

00:53:39.140 it'll help us do that and importantly to steer global biological phenomena that impact nation

00:53:44.180 to nation competition while enabling the united states that helps have the ethical as well as

00:53:48.220 technological standards for its use so what they're hoping is that you auto complete that

00:53:52.040 to say oh well if china's doing it then we should do too and i would say let china fail

00:53:58.680 the best that china is ever going to do is make slightly taller chinese people but the other thing

00:54:05.560 is and it bugs me because it's like you guys could have nuked china at like a dozen different points

00:54:10.660 over the past 30 years and now it's effectively too late so spare me the bullshit about how we

00:54:15.860 have to compete with china if they're your nemesis then blow them up at this point i think you're in

00:54:20.440 it with them you know if they're really your enemy you would have done something about it when you

00:54:25.180 had the ability to well china's who's going to do iran is iran doing gene editing i don't think

00:54:31.680 my point is it's just an excuse they're all they're all in it together exactly it's like

00:54:36.300 what do we have any proof they're doing no we just assume that they are okay oh they must be

00:54:40.520 so we have to do it okay just i would say even if that were true let them fail what's the worst

00:54:46.500 that could happen if china gets into gene editing they're gonna fail spectacularly at that if you

00:54:52.460 just let china get into this we won't have a china in 15 years yeah and then if they actually

00:54:57.820 do succeed you just pull a china and steal it from them yeah you know easy or just steal the

00:55:04.100 chinese people yep there you go here's what your bioethics can say that oh anyone that's gene

00:55:10.160 edited isn't human cha-ching yep infinity chinese slaves 2060 and the u.s army uses chinese undead

00:55:18.560 slaves to attack iran yeah for the fifth time in 30 years okay here's what you do eugene edit the

00:55:24.120 slaves we killed them we bring them back now it's just our product thank you imagine that assembly

00:55:31.520 line right it's just the crisper edited chinese coming out of the womb shot in the head

00:55:39.540 resurrected immediately

00:55:41.980 as a zombie. It's like, oh, you're not

00:55:43.980 a person. You're a paperclip.

00:55:46.620 Here we go.

00:55:48.300 I should reiterate, for the purposes

00:55:50.280 of this thoughts

00:55:51.880 experiment, Chinese people are born

00:55:54.380 as adults. You come out of the womb

00:55:56.380 as a 21-year-old

00:55:58.360 Chinese guy. That's fine. We can accept that.

00:56:00.660 I don't want people to think that I'm doing something

00:56:02.540 grotesque like assassinating

00:56:04.500 babies. No, it's newly born

00:56:06.480 Chinese guys that

00:56:08.500 we are then zombifying fresh dudes yeah fresh dudes dripping wet turned into zombie fellas

00:56:15.980 paperclip men got it and then i think i want to ask rfk how that relates to the economy

00:56:22.540 um he's not an economist but he seems like a guy who would have economic opinions i'd like

00:56:27.860 yeah yeah yeah he's got all he was saying like you know like seed oils bad for your health bad

00:56:33.980 for the economy uh bad for israel and so yeah because here's the thing if we actually turn

00:56:42.000 earth into a living hell we might meet christ he might show up and and just in a blink of an eye

00:56:51.980 destroy all of this but wouldn't it be nice to meet christ wouldn't it be cool yeah that'd be

00:57:00.160 that'd be that's on my list that's cool you'll meet the antichrist which is voting for obama

00:57:04.760 again we figure out a way to do it because he's fucking dead in chinese now too and then we do

00:57:10.820 that and in that future i'm canadian but i can vote in the american election i'm getting lost

00:57:16.440 in the bit now are the chinese resurrected paperclip clone slave army are actually obama

00:57:22.200 uh they can be now right because they have the technology yeah they can well we the thing is

00:57:29.020 the antichrist it is just the one because i mean i guess you could also have infinity antichrists

00:57:35.100 why not they didn't say you couldn't it doesn't doesn't explicitly say that you can't be that

00:57:42.300 there's always a big twist right where in the bible does it say that actually exactly you know

00:57:47.500 what i heard the lord works in mysterious ways you know what i heard it's a very complicated situation

00:57:53.740 there's a lot of uncrossed t's and undotted i's how about that how about i'm gonna be christ in

00:58:01.980 my lifetime and then we're all gonna fucking die you heard it here first um anyway before we move

00:58:09.100 on i should have asked you how's life going oh it's all right it can do i don't have any wood

00:58:16.480 news i know where you're going i don't have any wood news this week a lot of people were fired up

00:58:22.200 about the last wood news here's the thing people hate wood news

00:58:26.980 it's polarizing also can I just bring something up that really got me rankled it's um so I got

00:58:39.400 word from one of the friends of the show saying that one of my guys I showed blood satellite to

00:58:45.920 you know he never wanted to listen to it he listened to it and he said wow I fucking love

00:58:51.760 this show man i'd heard about it but i never gave it a shot because i heard dimes was gay

00:58:56.320 that was me i told you that yeah so is that true that's true that's a that's a true story

00:59:03.700 i met a dude uh and i was talking to him in dms because we have some things in common he's a

00:59:09.780 canadian guy i met him in appa's chat and uh he's like yeah yeah i know i i had heard of your show

00:59:16.020 i just hadn't listened to it you know to be honest with you i'm kind of embarrassed to say

00:59:18.920 now but i heard dimes was gay so i had to explain it to him it's just we like to have fun i get it

00:59:27.220 we like to bat around we like to mix it up here's the thing this is broken containment

00:59:32.980 yeah we found a dimes is gay in the wild yeah there's people out there like oh i thought he

00:59:37.960 was a gay man so we gotta reel this in yeah so before we move on to the book we're gonna cover

00:59:48.440 i just wanted to mention a couple things there is a new shirt on the good suffer store nice

00:59:54.300 suffer.com uh it's the second partnership with the z-man we had a very successful run of his

01:00:02.100 shirts the lagos shirts and this one is the occidental club shirt which was once again once

01:00:10.580 more designed in partnership with z-man and his community completely endorsed by them and

01:00:16.840 very very popular with this fan so if you're a fan of z-man just go have a look at the shirt i think

01:00:22.260 a lot of people are going to like this design it's the occidental club shirt and also have a

01:00:28.160 look at the felted lindy waffen shirt as well we have a few more of those that are left they've

01:00:34.200 been selling pretty well but uh yeah go check out that and like i said there's been a couple

01:00:39.820 real secret coffee hours we release one every single week on our gum road and our patreon

01:00:45.480 and the past five or so have all been sort of interlinked following this arc of what i think

01:00:53.580 is the what i would describe as the corruption of the right wing sphere i don't even like calling

01:01:00.420 it the distant right i don't want to come up with a new name either so maybe we're stuck with it

01:01:05.200 but i think the dissident right really captures the problem there like if you want to move past

01:01:13.140 it it needs to be something else but just calling it a dissident entity me it is true in the sense

01:01:19.820 that it can only define itself in opposition even in opposition to itself right so for better or

01:01:26.940 worse it makes sense but i also hate being in it but it was talking about the doxing of captive

01:01:34.800 dreamer 07 a popular content creator on x and the ramifications of that and also like i just said

01:01:42.860 The last one was discussing Peter Thiel and his religion and this article that was going over that entire phenomenon.

01:01:50.860 When people talk about the Thiel sphere or the Thiel network, what is that?

01:01:57.020 Who is he?

01:01:57.800 Who is involved in this?

01:01:59.140 When people say he's giving out money or funding projects, well, what are those projects?

01:02:03.800 What are his investments?

01:02:05.440 Who is involved?

01:02:06.740 Because we make a joke out of it.

01:02:09.320 People say, oh, where's my Thiel money?

01:02:10.860 I haven't received any Thiel bucks.

01:02:12.860 and i'd hate for it to be seen as a joke indefinitely because this is a very real thing

01:02:18.260 and it fucking matters and it matters now more than ever maybe a few years ago it was chuckle

01:02:23.820 worthy but now you're seeing results of this so check that out now i wanted to discuss this book

01:02:32.400 you know i really liked the sequence of books we've done leading up until now and i wanted to

01:02:37.640 take a break because i wanted to look into cartels mexican drug cartels yep and i hesitated for a

01:02:46.820 while because do we need another investigation in the cartels because if you are of our generation

01:02:53.680 or younger you've been overwhelmed with content constantly about mexican drug cartels in film

01:03:00.780 and in shows and in the news if you're a maga person politically cartels are the top of your

01:03:06.140 list to talk about but i'd encountered a phrase that i was rolling over in my head for a while

01:03:13.840 and a lot of people took it very seriously and it was that cartels don't exist and i'd heard that

01:03:21.080 and i didn't know what that meant and i wanted to get to the bottom of it but i felt that i needed

01:03:25.120 to read a bit more deeply into the history of the cartels and not just watch narcos on netflix or

01:03:31.580 sicario or any of these pretty valid uh films that really you know they don't just demonize

01:03:38.900 cartels most of them actually demonize the american government if anything or they they

01:03:43.960 show the situation as complex as it really is there really are no good guys or bad guys

01:03:50.320 it's black ops politicians are compromised everybody's cynical government's working

01:03:56.960 hand in glove with criminal organizations on both side of the border like it's messy

01:04:00.900 so i don't think there's even a propagandist angle to it but there's gonna be two books

01:04:06.080 this first one is just called el narco el narco inside mexico's criminal insurgency

01:04:13.280 and that's the phrase that i like the most criminal insurgency describing what this is

01:04:18.400 like a a mob of criminality that is insurgent against the government which i think describes

01:04:26.900 what people's concern is you know and then the second book we're going to cover next time is

01:04:32.300 just called drug cartels don't exist and it's more of a almost a left-wing media analysis about

01:04:41.200 drug cartels but it kind of gets into here but i need to be like okay let's start from the angle

01:04:46.860 of drug cartels don't exist if that's the case then what the fuck are they it doesn't make sense

01:04:51.060 that they don't exist so i'm just going to read a bunch of stuff here and i'm going to try and avoid

01:04:56.100 a lot of the trappings that you could fall into talking about cartels yes you could talk about

01:05:01.420 headless bodies hanging from bridges you can talk about fucking babies boiled alive all the most

01:05:06.680 extreme graphic content that everyone has pulled from lively that probably sits high in their mind

01:05:12.200 about what these organizations are capable of so i'm gonna skip a bunch of that you can find that

01:05:17.680 sort of shit anywhere but i wanted to get to the bottom of what do you mean by criminal insurgency

01:05:21.660 and he starts by saying understanding the mexican drug war is crucial not only because of morbid

01:05:27.740 curiosity at heaps of severed brain cases that's what he calls heads in this sometimes

01:05:32.700 almost like a gen x thing to do trying to find cool ways to say severed head but because the

01:05:38.220 problems in mexico are being played out across the world we hear little about communist guerrillas

01:05:43.060 in the americas these days but criminal uprisings are spreading like bushfire in el salvador the

01:05:49.240 Mara Salvatutra forced bus drivers into a national strike over anti-gang laws.

01:05:54.880 In Brazil, the first command torched 82 buses, 17 banks, and killed 42 policemen in one coordinated attack.

01:06:04.000 In Jamaica, police clashed with the supporters of Christopher Dudas Koch, leaving 70 dead.

01:06:11.000 Are pundits going to insist that this is just cops and robbers?

01:06:14.380 The Mexican drug war is a frightening warning of how bad things could get in other countries is a case study of a criminal insurgency.

01:06:23.060 And I think that's one thing I wanted to discuss was actually the scale of this, because sometimes you hear about 20 people were 20 civilians were killed or these journalists are killed.

01:06:33.320 You always hear about the journalists, but you don't hear about the coordination of these attacks almost as terrorist events or when they don't just attack civilians and they successfully kill like 70 soldiers in one go, which you wouldn't even hear about that from Afghanistan or Iraq.

01:06:50.360 right so i just wanted to start off by just briefly what do you think about drug cartels

01:06:58.140 what what are your thoughts do you know anything about them what are your what's your sense you

01:07:03.140 think they're important or what do you think um yeah i'm just trying to look it up here for a

01:07:08.920 second because is it called the it's called the iron river no it's a different book i can't remember

01:07:15.300 what it's called it's called the river of iron or something like that but i read this book recently

01:07:18.580 that was about gun running and the drug cartels and the the one thing that they kept coming back

01:07:22.200 to this was a liberal guy who is pro-immigration and even he was saying like look the issue that's

01:07:29.400 going on here is not only the savagery of the cartels but like the structure of them and the

01:07:33.760 way that they are interrelated to each other the way they have a distributed cell network and the

01:07:37.940 way that they're indirectly supported by the police and the government and by business like

01:07:42.820 it's not the same thing as just being like random gangs on the street this is like fundamentally

01:07:48.200 a huge interconnected web and you can't just shoot these guys because there's an there's

01:07:53.120 infrastructure there that they are part of they're almost a symptom of and i don't want to get too

01:07:58.560 liberal with it but it's in what he says makes sense to me and then talking about corruption

01:08:02.320 in the mexican government like yeah anyways i'm sure this is the same thing that you're kind of

01:08:06.380 talking about and we're going to get into that and you'd mention something there that i'll get

01:08:09.660 to now before i move on one dimension of this that's always ignored is that yes there is a

01:08:16.380 flow of drugs north of the border into America, but there is a steady flow of guns southward.

01:08:23.400 The Barrett .50 caliber has become a weapon of choice for Mexican cartels.

01:08:28.280 During the recent capture of El Chapo's son, Video Guzman, cartel gunmen used .50 calibers

01:08:34.180 in a fierce firefight with the military. The Mexican government suspects these guns came

01:08:39.020 from the U.S. Just some of the 200,000 weapons estimated to be trafficked every year into Mexico

01:08:45.420 and then on to other parts of Latin America.

01:08:48.800 Here in Mexico, at least 350,000 people have been murdered or disappeared since 2006.

01:08:55.560 Official stats link at least 70% of the guns used in crimes here

01:08:59.780 back to dealers or manufacturers in the U.S.

01:09:03.260 That's the big thing that a lot of these Mexicans,

01:09:06.000 they're getting armed in a couple of ways.

01:09:07.460 One, they're just getting their guns from Guatemala.

01:09:10.560 Two is that they're just robbing the military.

01:09:12.660 but three they're getting a huge amount of their armaments from illegal gun trafficking to the

01:09:18.360 south that was the whole operation fast and furious debacle under obama but there was like

01:09:23.640 a lot of gun traffickers going south so that's often ignored the the american role in perpetuating

01:09:31.580 that just from not from the government not even from the cia just from independent contractors

01:09:37.000 so you can make a lot of money on that right but you don't get to something this size as you said

01:09:43.300 without complicity with the government and in fact we'll get into the uh the zetas cartel later on

01:09:50.620 they were sort of a latecomer in the mexican ecosystem but you know their story was that

01:09:56.040 they were just uh former special ops guys and the mythology was there was a mass defectation that

01:10:03.900 this huge collection of these guys just left the army and started their own cartel and it was

01:10:10.480 actually one guy who like slowly by degrees recruited a bunch of people and they didn't

01:10:16.480 start off like a street running gang for all they actually started more as an enforcement arm of like

01:10:21.280 the sinaloa cartel and then just just doing assassinations doing kidnappings doing all

01:10:28.060 like the really violent stuff that was that section of the organization that they broke off

01:10:32.100 And then as you see, they do deal in drugs, but what they're most known for is just killing people because they are very effectively waging a very real war against the government.

01:10:45.120 Los Zetas begin to morph into the armed paramilitary wing of the Gulf cartel before eventually splitting off and forming an entirely separate entity that would terrorize large parts of Mexico.

01:10:56.360 They would go on to war with every rival cartel using shock and awe military tactics to gain new territory.

01:11:02.100 At their peak, they would control the largest amount of territory in Mexico.

01:11:06.580 And though the cartel was already known for its brutality,

01:11:09.400 Los Zetas would escalate the violence and tactics to new, unseen levels.

01:11:13.580 They would usher in a new phase in the cartel wars.

01:11:16.800 Beheadings, leaving bodies in the streets,

01:11:19.240 and senseless killings of uninvolved civilians would become their calling card.

01:11:23.540 Are they really even a cartel the same way as these other ones are?

01:11:27.680 They're this other thing.

01:11:29.280 They just want to fight the government.

01:11:32.100 But would you call them an insert?

01:11:33.580 Like, do they want to take over the government?

01:11:35.500 Not really.

01:11:36.020 Like, what the fuck is this?

01:11:37.500 And their structure is very interesting.

01:11:40.100 And if I don't get to it, I'll say it to you now.

01:11:42.000 But they have this very cell-like structure.

01:11:45.060 It's not run like a paramilitary organization where everyone gets orders from the general.

01:11:50.220 They start a franchise.

01:11:51.420 They start a gang.

01:11:53.120 You have a gang in your town, and you can join the Zetas kind of and get that brand.

01:11:58.500 But they're actually very loose on their affiliation.

01:12:00.820 so it's even wrong to say that they're all soldiers a lot of them you know they're just

01:12:05.620 like the same sort of street urchins from small town mexico they would get anywhere but at the

01:12:11.700 very top it's it's the you know warriors but then they're getting increasingly wiped out so then

01:12:18.640 maybe just have illiterate dark-skinned mexicans at some point right yeah and he goes on here he

01:12:25.660 It says, anyone taking a closer look at the Mexican drug war works out quickly that nothing is what it seems.

01:12:32.460 Every view is clouded by deceit and rumors.

01:12:34.940 Every fact argued over by competing interest groups and agencies.

01:12:38.800 All key personalities shrouded in mystery and contradictions.

01:12:42.560 A squad of men dressed in police uniforms are filmed kidnapping a mayor.

01:12:47.580 Are they really police or are they gangsters in disguise or both?

01:12:51.100 an arrested thug tells all signs of torture evident on his taped confession then thugs

01:12:57.780 capture a policeman and videotape the officer giving a contradictory version of events whom

01:13:03.120 do you believe a villain commits murders in mexico then becomes a protected witness in the united

01:13:08.160 states can you trust his testimony which is something that the u.s was doing quite a bit of

01:13:13.280 but they would extradite these cartel leaders to america and then they would start singing all

01:13:20.480 kinds of songs giving people up ratting on whoever but it's like well this is a bit too easy

01:13:24.660 are they just giving contradictory information you know i mean because they would never give

01:13:29.500 that information in mexico because they feared for their life but how does that make them more

01:13:32.980 trustworthy here like who do you believe about any of this you know it says so why did cartels

01:13:39.680 blossom during the first decade of mexico democracy tragically the same system that promised hope

01:13:46.700 was weak in controlling the most powerful mafias on the continent the old regime may have been

01:13:52.120 corrupt and authoritarian but it had a surefire way of managing organized crime taking down a

01:13:57.120 token few gangsters and taxing the rest the point is now recognized by most mexican academics that

01:14:03.280 is a central theme in the book the mexican drug war is inextricably linked to the democratic

01:14:08.480 transition that was an interesting point he made so uh just to clarify there there was a shift in

01:14:14.840 towards democracy in mexico and there was always drug trafficking there was always gangs

01:14:19.640 but you didn't see cartel violence explode until that democratic transition that's when the war on

01:14:27.080 drugs became actualized and this is a argument that's made later in the book i'll get to it now

01:14:35.400 because i don't want to forget this and this is this is and you can weigh in on this too the claim

01:14:42.120 is that the only reason we have cartel violence is or they have cartel violence but also us

01:14:49.880 because anything that's happened in mexico you can basically make the same argument

01:14:53.560 but american canada the only reason we have a war of drugs not a war on drugs but a war of drugs

01:15:02.360 is because we've hunted them down you know they wouldn't be committing so much violence

01:15:09.000 if we weren't trying to over police them and you know i mean like oh they're only they're only

01:15:14.200 fighting the cops because the cops showed up and tried to arrest them and i'm like nah i can't i'm

01:15:20.040 not going to go with you on this like look like if you have a country that has a net exporter

01:15:25.240 of cocaine and heroin and you know you're if you're a state they're not paying their taxes

01:15:30.440 they're undermining you it's also a poor country so like i mean that's a good business model even

01:15:35.080 here but out there where they can't even afford food like that's literally the best line of work

01:15:39.480 you can go into and also it's like if you are committing crime like what they're saying is

01:15:44.520 the only reason this violence is happening is because you're arresting people for committing

01:15:47.800 crime if you just legalize crime there wouldn't be so much fighting and i'm like no i'm not i can't

01:15:55.400 i can't go i can't just legalize crime not a serious argument to to to make the madness stop

01:16:01.000 i'm like i don't accept that um especially like to admit that just let the zenas do whatever they

01:16:07.400 want just let the sinaloa cartel do whatever they want like first of all we're past that now there's

01:16:11.480 no going back they're saying that when mexico was more autocratic they worked there was more of a

01:16:18.600 live and let live attitude where yeah you can you can commit crime just pay us taxes no exactly i

01:16:24.840 i mean it's like just at a certain point if anyone wants to say we should have less crime we should

01:16:30.920 have less cocaine exports we're not allowed to do that you're the bad guy i think when you have when

01:16:37.960 you have an autocratic government you have people in power with political power who know that their

01:16:44.040 physical neck is on the line if they it up and so they don't for example take rather small bribes

01:16:51.240 from local gangsters like democratically elected official officials constantly do because yeah yeah

01:16:57.340 a huge part of this is that is the interaction with the government of mexico but it's not that

01:17:01.980 the government of mexico is enforcing too much it's that they're enforcing a little bit in some

01:17:07.060 places and then encouraging it in other places because they're on the take yeah and also there's

01:17:12.600 some statistics given here that don't make much sense to me so one that he had says and maybe this

01:17:17.460 is true on its face but he says back then mexico and colombia even they export a lot of drugs but

01:17:25.500 there wasn't much drug consumption or drug abuse within the country that only happened later it's

01:17:31.660 only later after the exports rose that mexicans began imbibing in cocaine i'm like that's that

01:17:39.720 doesn't make sense to me what do you mean like why why then explain to me why they just suddenly

01:17:43.680 started doing coke in the country that is flush with cocaine like what made them start i maybe

01:17:50.900 just you weren't tracking it i don't get why that would even be the case that doesn't make sense to

01:17:55.140 me so but they're trying to almost blame america for that like it was only after the market

01:18:00.560 exploded in cocaine in america that mexicans started doing cocaine it's like what did they

01:18:05.900 think it was for yeah like they had to learn how to snort cocaine from blonde white chicks

01:18:12.440 i don't what from miami vice they didn't know what they were doing until they saw miami vice

01:18:17.560 what the fuck you talking about there was a similar line in the one i was reading except

01:18:22.940 about guns they're like oh it's essentially the fault of these evil american gun corporations

01:18:27.060 producing so many guns so efficiently and so cheaply and that's why these cartels have so

01:18:32.000 many guns it's like look if the americans didn't give the to them somebody else would have and it's

01:18:36.460 not like like we've not we the americans fought a war with them of only a few generations ago and

01:18:41.540 it's not like they were unarmed at that time they're perfectly capable of sourcing their own

01:18:45.380 fucking guns as racist as we may be i don't think mexicans were fucking paleolithic hunter

01:18:51.880 gatherers who had never seen a gun or a crack rock before right they seem to be pretty proficient at

01:18:59.440 that um now we get into the the concept of the cartels why does the cartel exist why do we say

01:19:06.280 things like this designation is not valid he says american agents only started using the name

01:19:12.940 sinaloa cartel in indictments in the last couple of years before that they called it the federation

01:19:18.700 and before that a host of other names such as the guadalajara cartel named after mexico's second

01:19:24.900 city which sinaloan crime bosses used as a base of operation opium cocaine cannabis and fentanyl

01:19:33.220 the Sinaloa cartel can pocket anywhere from $3 to $12 billion each year.

01:19:39.460 In an effort to launder the money, the traffickers invest heavily into the local economy,

01:19:45.460 buying villas and even shopping malls.

01:19:49.100 More than 200,000 people are said to work directly or indirectly for the narcos,

01:19:55.380 even pharmacists, who import the products needed to manufacture synthetic drugs.

01:20:01.260 but all these names are just approximations to describe a quarrelsome empire of traffickers

01:20:07.600 that spans out from the sinaloa across half the u.s border some capos of this empire are linked by

01:20:13.080 blood or marriage the very first peasants who grew opium in the heights a century ago it is

01:20:19.620 an unbroken dynasty so i like that paragraph because you see two things going on there on

01:20:26.040 one hand you see the argument that you hear from a lot of these guys which is that it's not a cartel

01:20:30.820 it's just a bunch of these quarrelsome gangs that you blanketed with this convenient term to

01:20:37.260 prosecute them legally as like a rico act right you're just trying to try to prove that it's one

01:20:42.720 organization it's not really however he also says that many of these higher-ups are intermarried

01:20:49.540 into like one fucking blood dynasty many of them trace the roots to the very roots of the

01:20:54.320 organization so i'm like well it sounds a lot more dynastic than what these cartel apologists

01:21:01.140 are saying if that is indeed the case and it sounds like it right it's not just an emergent

01:21:07.400 capitalistic phenomena which is what sometimes they say like they blame the market and this is

01:21:13.460 they blame the hunger for cocaine in america almost birthing the cartels like well it's not

01:21:20.580 like that actually like i think it actually started with you flooding the market it started

01:21:25.320 with you yeah breaking open the doors flooding the market getting people into it and then the

01:21:29.900 market started to grow it wasn't just that all these fucking club goers had a hankering for

01:21:36.340 cocaine and then mexico said well wait ring a ding ding kismet we actually just had we have

01:21:43.240 all the stuff we have all the fucking cocaine in boxes we know what to do with it let's just

01:21:50.080 let's just send it over there

01:21:51.960 it really is blaming the

01:21:54.420 blaming the buyer

01:21:55.640 like it's like blaming a prostitute like prostitution

01:21:58.220 is illegal but it's the pimps you really

01:22:00.220 need to go after

01:22:01.100 wait what do they do with the cocaine

01:22:03.420 they're snorting it no way

01:22:06.240 that's what you do with this shit

01:22:07.640 oh what let me try

01:22:09.780 I'm just an innocent brown man

01:22:11.920 I just had boxes of this stuff

01:22:14.240 and I didn't know what it was

01:22:15.860 until

01:22:18.480 until fucking

01:22:19.860 And 17-year-old Jewish women showed us that it could be used to create another sort of dynasty of sex trafficking.

01:22:30.440 That is a true story.

01:22:31.780 They also taught the Mexicans about sex trafficking.

01:22:34.240 They didn't know what that was.

01:22:35.920 Never heard of it.

01:22:36.640 They didn't know it was all 17-year-old Jewish girls who were doing that.

01:22:40.100 That's what Epstein was, by the way.

01:22:41.340 Human sacrifice to the sun god also the Jews taught them that.

01:22:45.700 I actually believe this now that I'm thinking of it.

01:22:47.800 Jelaine Maxwell was 15 years old, but she just smoked a ton of cigarettes.

01:22:54.260 And there's some, there's actually a history of the, I won't go into the entire history,

01:22:58.540 but this I found very interesting because I didn't know the real roots of how far back

01:23:04.020 this went.

01:23:05.580 Said the Mexican villains expropriated the Chinese opium business amid a wave of racial

01:23:11.100 violence against Asians.

01:23:12.520 antagonism had grown against the chinese for several decades with mexicans slandering the

01:23:18.720 immigrants for being immoral and filthy imagine imagine mexicans calling the chinese filthy

01:23:26.100 foreigners with mexicans racism reached fever pitch spurnum by prominent politicians criminals

01:23:33.680 also whipped up racism in 1933 the american council of ensenada sent a report to washington

01:23:40.780 about the rising anti-chinese tide he cited an informant a mandarin speaking american saying

01:23:47.380 the uh well-known villains were among the key anti-chinese activists in quidad juarez a gunman

01:23:55.140 known as al vera cruz every mexican name sounds like something i would make up um

01:24:00.700 is reported to have rounded up and murdered 11 chinese men working in the opium trade his boss

01:24:06.620 was allegedly a woman from durango called ignacia jasso or lanacha mexicans began to dominate the

01:24:14.740 drug trade from the opium growing sierra madre to the bubbling border cities so they kind of

01:24:21.500 stole it from the chinese was it like were they the first opium people the chinese when you think

01:24:30.080 of like opium opium dens and things like that well we did that to them though like we were the ones

01:24:35.680 who did it to them

01:24:36.860 we were the Mexicans

01:24:39.500 are we sure

01:24:40.440 they didn't have

01:24:43.100 they didn't know what that was

01:24:44.060 it would be hugely comedic

01:24:48.240 if it turned out that they did

01:24:49.740 the opium wars to themselves

01:24:51.420 I don't know much

01:24:54.100 about the opium wars

01:24:55.200 but I'm going with that

01:24:56.600 it makes sense to me

01:24:59.400 when I think of China

01:25:00.380 I think of opium guys

01:25:02.600 see you know

01:25:05.340 you know why china describes the 20th century as the century of humiliation

01:25:10.340 they do like it's a government policy the reason they describe it as such is because

01:25:15.660 white guys today think of chinese as opium guys that's the reason that's literally it also it's

01:25:24.120 official government policy to say you sucked for a century that you'll never catch an american

01:25:28.960 and doing that yeah you'll never catch an anglo saying that man we have been fucked in the ass

01:25:36.360 for a hundred years even if we are we're not gonna say just say that some slave psychology

01:25:41.180 shit like oh you're always you're why you're always hitting me it's my turn you're not gonna

01:25:48.740 out jew the jews on this one china you don't know how to do it you don't know how to weaponize the

01:25:54.880 victim are you just saying oh don't we oh don't we suck yeah so i'm not gonna give you anything

01:26:01.780 why would i well opium guy opium guy who got fucking ganked by mexican children and a girl

01:26:11.860 apparently the opium guys got fucked up by a mexican lady now that trump's back in office

01:26:19.980 if he has a diplomatic meeting with z he needs to hand him an opium pipe as a bit and see what

01:26:24.460 he does just watch him fucking flip him what do you think they would do would that be it would be

01:26:31.740 war it would be war because of you know i'm serious i'm serious it would be nuclear war

01:26:36.360 within 12 hours if he actually did that because china's entire culture is built on face and that

01:26:40.880 is the the absolute the worst damage disease face that you could do was to literally call him an

01:26:46.900 opium addict it'd be great if trump showed up just smoking opium pipe have you tried this

01:26:53.280 It's so good

01:26:55.140 I know you don't have this here

01:26:59.440 It's Trump opium

01:27:04.480 Going back to cartels

01:27:10.520 And all these beheadings

01:27:11.580 There's a conspiracy theory

01:27:15.160 About how

01:27:16.040 I don't even know

01:27:17.700 I won't call it a conspiracy theory

01:27:19.040 Because there's credible evidence

01:27:20.860 that the cia was involved in the drug trade in some sense now this goes as far as

01:27:27.080 black people saying that that federal agents were literally selling crack and slang and rock

01:27:33.300 in south central right that no black person in america could ever figure out how to

01:27:38.920 cook cocaine on the stove right but i mean as i was talking about this last night with a

01:27:46.240 prudentialist and geo about how michael rupper the guy from that movie collapsed

01:27:50.740 and one of his big stings early on when he's working for the la police was proving that you

01:27:57.740 know the the cia or the feds in some sense were they had their fingerprints on the crack trade

01:28:05.080 we won't get into that but you know he says here the notion that the u.s government systematically

01:28:11.060 bought, brought Sinaloa

01:28:13.040 Sinaloa and opium during the Second

01:28:15.000 World War is the classic conspiracy theory

01:28:17.180 in the early Mexican drug trade.

01:28:19.640 In today's Sinaloa, politicians,

01:28:21.320 police, and drug traffickers all

01:28:23.040 talk about such a deal as pure

01:28:25.220 fact. The Mexican Defense

01:28:27.220 Department also describes it in an official

01:28:29.280 history of the drug trade

01:28:31.220 printed on the wall of its Mexican

01:28:33.100 city headquarters, Mexico City headquarters.

01:28:35.580 However, the U.S. officials vehemently

01:28:37.360 denied the deal at the time. The

01:28:39.080 conspiracy theory goes that the u.s government needed opium to make morphine for soldiers in

01:28:44.980 the second world war mexico's finest narcoologists have been able unable to dig up any conclusive

01:28:51.580 evidence that the deal ever took place and some question whether mexican authorities made it up

01:28:55.860 to ease their own conscience the descendants of cannibal tribes bandits and displaced peasants

01:29:01.220 have found a crop that pulled them up out of the wretched poverty the opium and heroin trade

01:29:06.400 became ingrained in their culture

01:29:08.340 along with pickup trucks, folk

01:29:10.400 saints, and later Kalashnikov

01:29:12.260 rifles. El Narco has

01:29:14.220 rooted itself in a community

01:29:15.860 where it could sprout like a hungry plant.

01:29:19.220 So they claimed

01:29:20.360 that the genesis was big

01:29:22.440 deals with the American government

01:29:24.000 and that is what allowed these

01:29:26.180 illiterate psychopathic peasants

01:29:28.460 to rise

01:29:30.060 and basically make a new middle class.

01:29:32.760 Yeah.

01:29:34.040 And I just like the descendants of

01:29:35.980 cannibal tribes like it's true and not only is that true you know anthropologically but they

01:29:44.280 tend to glorify that in their narco religions which we'll get to in just a minute he says

01:29:50.040 and there's sort of an interplay between mexico and the colombians here he says as mexico cracked

01:29:55.280 down the colombians stepped up by which means the mexican government cracking down on exports

01:30:00.580 the colombians stepped up creating a boom in their own marijuana industry known by local

01:30:05.420 historians as the bonanza mariembra back in sinaloa troops hammer narcos on the ground as

01:30:11.440 well as from the air residents across the sierra madre still have painful memories of soldiers

01:30:15.980 marauding through their villages kicking down doors and dragging hundreds of young men away

01:30:20.540 one clear incentive was the american carrot dea bosses and the jimmy carter white house sang

01:30:27.960 praises of mexico's anti-drug efforts calling it a model program more substantially mexico got to

01:30:34.700 keep the hardware america supplied it for the spraying the spraying of the marijuana crops

01:30:39.260 within two years mexico had acquired 39 bell helicopters 22 small aircraft and one executive

01:30:45.800 jet giving it the largest police fleet in latin america drug work became a new way for governments

01:30:52.820 to gain aid and military support and air power from the united states the mexican government

01:30:58.700 also used Operation Condor

01:31:00.820 to crack down on small bands

01:31:02.880 of leftist insurgents.

01:31:04.940 That's an interesting angle there. Coincidentally,

01:31:06.880 the CIA also co-named its

01:31:08.740 own regional operation against the communists

01:31:11.160 in the 1970s,

01:31:12.700 Operation Condor.

01:31:14.680 That's something that a lot of leftists will claim, too.

01:31:16.860 I think there's probably some truth to it, that

01:31:18.340 it was a way to just get

01:31:20.640 funding from America to wage

01:31:22.720 a war against communists by saying,

01:31:24.420 they're dealing in drugs, and maybe they were.

01:31:27.300 They very well may have been,

01:31:28.360 or they might not have been,

01:31:29.120 but it was just a convenient way

01:31:30.820 to get a bunch of fucking Blackhawk helicopters

01:31:33.160 and mow down commies.

01:31:35.560 So, you know, good for them.

01:31:38.680 So it goes on here.

01:31:40.020 The phrase drug cartel has won scorn

01:31:42.480 from some academics who argue

01:31:44.140 it misleads people by giving

01:31:46.040 an inaccurate description of traffickers

01:31:48.180 engaged in price fixing.

01:31:50.860 But despite their moans,

01:31:52.420 the word has firmly stuck for three decades.

01:31:54.600 Used by American agents, journalists,

01:31:56.960 and importantly many traffickers

01:31:59.100 themselves and that's really what I wanted to get

01:32:01.200 to when you hear people say drug cartels

01:32:03.140 don't exist okay what part

01:32:05.100 of it doesn't exist are you saying

01:32:07.080 that they're not trafficking in drugs no

01:32:08.920 are you saying they're not organized no

01:32:10.640 do you think that they don't call

01:32:13.180 themselves cartels no because they do

01:32:14.920 the journalist everyone fucking

01:32:16.940 does and it seems

01:32:19.120 oh it's not a cartel it's just a violent

01:32:21.320 coordinated organization with

01:32:23.100 a hierarchy at the top that engages

01:32:25.240 and collective price fixing of a product okay well what what would you like to call them because that

01:32:31.760 that sounds like a cartel that sounds like the dairy cartel here in canada says consequently

01:32:37.960 the cartel concept has had an immense influence of how the drug trade in latin america is perceived

01:32:43.420 both by people inside and out pablo escobar himself cultivated the idea dressing up as

01:32:49.540 a revolutionary poncho vila and calling cocaine he called cocaine an atomic bomb that he dropped

01:32:56.360 in the united states now does that sound like you know this is the fault of the market

01:33:03.260 for the daa the concept of cartels was highly useful to prosecute gangsters three decades later

01:33:10.380 the idea of cartels has taken on a definitive meaning on the bloody streets of mexico corpses

01:33:14.900 are found daily next to calling cards of organizations such as the gulf cartel um and

01:33:20.680 the zetas these networks of killers and traffickers are far bigger than near street gangs and that's

01:33:26.280 something he gets into the book as well tracking the evolution of hit squads saying that you know

01:33:33.260 they used to have them in colombia and it was these assassins lone gunmen riding around on

01:33:39.560 motorcycles with you know silent pistols and whatnot and he said mexico took the concept it

01:33:45.240 was just like guys in jeeps with ak-47 spraying an entire block yeah like they just decided like

01:33:51.640 oh we don't we we want to be sure so we're just going to like blow everybody away and that's when

01:33:57.940 you start seeing civilians hit too but you've seen the um i don't want to call it the clumsification

01:34:04.440 but they just stopped doing assassinations

01:34:07.120 and just started doing massacres

01:34:08.860 and then they get away with it too

01:34:11.480 he goes on here

01:34:13.860 what conclusions can we make

01:34:15.460 about American spies

01:34:16.780 and the development of the Mexican drug trade

01:34:19.040 to say that the CIA

01:34:20.780 was a Dr. Frankenstein

01:34:22.480 that invented El Narco

01:34:23.960 was the El Narco monster

01:34:26.500 seems overblown

01:34:27.340 market forces would create

01:34:29.320 the Latin America cocaine trade

01:34:30.980 with or without the help of spooks

01:34:33.340 Furthermore, geography would ensure this trade would bounce through Mexico, whichever traffickers got a helping hand from smiling spies.

01:34:40.660 However, the role of the CIA is crucial in understanding the history of cocaine.

01:34:45.920 It highlights how the U.S. government has failed to have a unified policy in its war on drugs abroad.

01:34:52.260 While the DEA has had a mission to fight trafficking, the CIA had a mission to bolster the Contras, and they could not help but tread on each other's feet.

01:35:00.800 fears are that such a situation has been repeated in various theaters of conflict such as afghanistan

01:35:06.820 with members of the u.s ally and the northern alliance accused of trafficking drugs and that's

01:35:12.740 even one more dimension here that i think is worth noting is that when you say the american

01:35:17.600 government's what do you mean the american government it's actually the dea the cia maybe

01:35:23.140 the fbi and maybe even the military all working seemingly independently all with different

01:35:29.280 missions like the cia and arming the contras was operating with the mandate of the white house

01:35:35.760 however it was kind of doing that on its own and that has nothing to do with the you know the

01:35:41.520 mission of the military to secure the border you know and how many of these agencies are actually

01:35:46.560 trying to stop the cartels and which ones are trying to work with them to stop something else

01:35:51.760 yeah so it's such a multi-faceted problem because there's no doubt in anyone's mind

01:35:57.440 that there's spies involved that there's funding involved even now right even the stuff we know

01:36:02.320 about but accidentally arming the cartels but it's it's such it's to the point where you can't

01:36:10.080 untangle this without untangling the mexican government really which is why they get defensive

01:36:16.480 when america wants to step in and say okay we'll solve this problem for you no no what are we

01:36:21.920 without this you know just to give one example here what we're talking about he says evidence

01:36:29.280 of police working for the insurgent zetas cartel was startling but would soon become depressingly

01:36:34.920 typical in mexico time and time again federal troops rolled into cities and accused local

01:36:40.760 police of being deeply entwined with the gangsters officers no longer just turned a blind eye to

01:36:46.060 smuggling but worked as kidnappers and assassins in their own right a gray fragmentation

01:36:51.540 of the state to aggravate the problem many federal officers were also found working for

01:36:56.860 gangsters normally different factions of the sinaloa cartel so as federal troops rounded up

01:37:02.520 zetas observers asked whom they were serving the public or the sinaloan capos and this is a problem

01:37:07.860 he expresses in the book which is like anytime they know that anytime they take down one cartel

01:37:13.680 they're helping the other cartels it's it's a very difficult situation like you're destroying

01:37:18.620 their competition so you need to take them all down

01:37:20.840 at once but if you just take

01:37:22.800 out the Zetas that will allow this

01:37:24.680 other one to sweep in and become more powerful

01:37:26.740 and maybe even

01:37:28.620 more powerful singularly

01:37:30.800 than it was as they were at each other's

01:37:32.740 throats and that's really what that movie

01:37:34.680 Sicario

01:37:36.940 is about

01:37:37.640 Josh Brolin there's so many good scenes from

01:37:40.680 that movie but once

01:37:42.520 the high brass has Josh Brolin's

01:37:44.940 character in the room saying that they

01:37:46.700 want to designate the cartels as terrorist threats like they're trying to kick off a war

01:37:52.960 in mexico they're trying to take them to cartels do you have any thoughts

01:37:56.980 yeah i wouldn't take out a cartel leader turn one cartel into 50 besides killing kings doesn't

01:38:05.040 start wars it ends them that's our concern you have a location on race no but the family is

01:38:13.260 under surveillance.

01:38:14.360 Is he in contact with them?

01:38:15.800 Not to our knowledge, but we assume he has.

01:38:19.260 Any kids?

01:38:20.200 Two.

01:38:21.440 What's the age of the youngest?

01:38:22.800 16.

01:38:24.140 16?

01:38:29.780 Yeah, if you want to start a war,

01:38:33.340 kidnap a prince.

01:38:34.580 King will start it for you.

01:38:35.580 you did this sort of thing in the middle east

01:38:42.740 you think those tactics will work here if you wanted to sir so that's the reality of what it

01:38:52.800 is on the ground saying that do we even want to win against one or do we want more of them

01:38:57.380 fighting each other well that actually means more bloodshed too but it also means that there isn't a

01:39:03.420 insurgent tyranny in that sector but would that be better or worse than this you know i mean and

01:39:10.280 and for who certainly not for mexico but maybe more manageable from the american perspective

01:39:16.320 and once you look at that you say oh this is a real war then this isn't just a gang thing this

01:39:22.220 is like yes what does the mexican nation look like if we stop this insurgency do we need this

01:39:29.140 insurgency for a mexico that makes sense to us which is a wild thing to think about um and just

01:39:36.520 this is what we were talking about before it says mexican intelligence agents explain that zeta

01:39:40.820 cells are akin to franchises as with mcdonald's local recruits get training and the best brand

01:39:46.220 name in the business they can run one man can run his own outlet as long as he kicks back

01:39:50.940 the payments to the headquarters paramilitary squads that sprung up in columbia in the 90s

01:39:56.360 operated with a similar degree of local autonomy the new zeta cells clashed with sinaloans the

01:40:02.540 zetas were not thinking like gangsters but like a paramilitary group controlling territory

01:40:07.700 their new way of fighting rapidly spread through the mexican drug war in september the same year

01:40:13.080 la familia gang working with the zetas rolled five human heads onto a disco dance floor by the end of

01:40:19.480 2006 there have been dozens of decapitations over the next year there were hundreds so that's an

01:40:24.720 interesting element to this too that you see the progression of the violence that it was

01:40:30.100 groups like the zetas that started these public displays of beheadings and then everyone has to

01:40:34.700 catch up that that's the new oh that's what we're doing now i guess we're doing beheadings now you

01:40:40.660 can't you can't be the one cartel who's not cutting heads off you want to be the last cartel

01:40:45.240 that's not boiling women alive and that's how they just do it so as reprehensible as it sounds

01:40:51.300 it's like it's uh the invisible hand of the market driving up the violence to keep them competitive

01:40:58.480 yeah um he says here in 2008 the mexican drug war intensified drastically and became

01:41:05.740 a full-scale criminal insurgency in 2007 an average of 200 drug-related murders occurred

01:41:13.860 per month in 2008 this shot to 500 murders per month the year saw an extraordinary rise in

01:41:19.600 attacks on police and officials and the conflict started to have a major impact on civilians

01:41:24.780 including the grenade attack on revelers during the 2008 independence day celebrations 80 percent

01:41:30.620 of all killings took place in three northwestern states that form a triangle from the sierra madre

01:41:36.380 to the u.s border sinaloa chihuahua and baja california this was the region long controlled

01:41:42.080 by the sinaloan narco tribe the kingpins of the sinaloa cartel including a chapel guzman and

01:41:48.380 ismail zambada were involved in all three of these fronts um under caledrin's push these tensions

01:41:56.260 boiled over into open warfare both among themselves and in a desperate lash back against

01:42:02.020 the police violence was therefore a sign of success the government argued and signaled cartels

01:42:08.220 were getting weaker the other argument was put out by gangsters themselves and supported by a

01:42:12.400 substantial group of mexican journalists and academics according to this critique the war

01:42:17.060 was linked to government corruption the sinaloa cartel of chapo guzman and mayo zambada they say

01:42:22.940 became emboldened by an alliance with federal officials to attempt a takeover of all mexico's

01:42:28.940 trafficking supported by federal troops chapo guzman then helped arrest his rivals such as the

01:42:35.520 beard's brother alfredo belton levia whom soldiers nabbed in cuacadan in january 20 verse 2008 in

01:42:42.620 reaction the afflicted capos hit back against federal forces so that's another interesting

01:42:47.620 story here that at some point the theory goes one of these cartels did broker a close relationship

01:42:55.160 with the mexican government and they decided well maybe it does make sense we're one cartel's in

01:43:00.660 charge of everything sort of like a whitey bulger move like i'm going to be your asset i'm going to

01:43:06.080 help you arrest these other ones and then you're going to have someone running these who you like

01:43:11.580 Like maybe someone you can control or think you can control.

01:43:15.100 And that's the accusation made against Chapo Guzman.

01:43:18.380 I don't even know whether it's real or not,

01:43:19.660 but it does seem that he was working with these agents.

01:43:26.080 He kind of goes further here.

01:43:27.540 I know we're going to get wrapped up soon, but he says,

01:43:29.360 stripped down to its basics,

01:43:30.760 El Narco or Mexican drug trafficking is just an industry.

01:43:35.060 And like any industry,

01:43:35.900 the mechanics of making and selling product are more fundamental than the

01:43:39.380 companies and CEOs calling the shots.

01:43:41.580 The evidence room in the army base in Calacan is a fantastic display of this industry.

01:43:48.900 It shows the colossal fruits of drug trafficking, tons of produce and hundreds of packets and pans.

01:43:54.260 Who knows how many different cartels or kinkmans put money into these goods?

01:43:58.240 And who cares?

01:43:59.560 These mind-bending substances have passed through thousands of hands in fields, laboratories, on ships, airplanes, and in trucks.

01:44:06.340 And they all end up together in one room being shown off to journalists.

01:44:09.680 It directly provides thousands of jobs, many in poor rural areas that most need them.

01:44:15.520 Its profits spill over into a number of other sectors, particularly hotels, cattle ranches, racehorses, record labels, football teams, and movie companies.

01:44:23.580 These cold figures have a frightening human implication.

01:44:27.020 Mexican drug cartels can still operate at full capacity while they fight bloody battles with each other and the government.

01:44:33.640 In the drug business, it seems a war economy functions pretty well.

01:44:37.440 and i think that's a very fascinating opinion i never thought that before it's like

01:44:41.920 as violence has escalated it doesn't seem to have really hurt the profits it seems that the

01:44:48.600 drug industry operates independently of the personalities and the leaders right

01:44:55.260 yeah and the argument that he makes throughout the book is that you know we get so wrapped up

01:45:01.060 in the mythology and the wild tales of the industry you forget that these are just guys

01:45:06.920 trying to make money selling a product right and at the end of the day the vast majority of them

01:45:12.680 they only they only really do this sort of bloodshed in the interest of making more money

01:45:19.420 and they would never ever do anything if they thought it really hurt their profits right it

01:45:24.240 really is all they don't they don't believe in cocaine more than they believe in anything else

01:45:29.120 like that's why they also do sex trafficking it's anything they could do but it's just an industry

01:45:34.700 and you know once you view it like that it makes a bit more sense however he gets into something

01:45:41.780 here which i don't really know what to make of it the um narco religions um here's one example

01:45:49.900 because you hear about these narco corritos these songs glorify often commissioned by the gangsters

01:45:55.660 themselves mythologizing themselves and there's these very unique forms of catholicism that are

01:46:03.980 practiced by these people they have narco saints i'll give you an example here it says um the most

01:46:08.780 virtual expression of narco religion is by la familia cartel in minochean la familia

01:46:15.500 indoctrinates its followers in its very own version of evangelical christianity mixed with

01:46:20.460 some peasant rebel politics the gang's spiritual leader nazario moreno el mas loco or the maddest

01:46:28.540 one which is a great name for a spiritual leader actually wrote his own bible which is compulsory

01:46:35.860 reading for the troops this sounds so nuts i thought it was just another drug war myth he says

01:46:40.640 until i got my hands on a copy of the good book it's not an easy bedtime read many who follow

01:46:46.420 these faiths are not drug traffickers or gun-toting assassins these beliefs all have an appeal to poor

01:46:52.060 mexicans who feel the catholic church is not speaking to them and their problems but gangsters

01:46:57.900 definitely feel at home with these new sects and exert a powerful influence on them giving a

01:47:02.800 spiritual and semi-ideological backbone to narco clans jesus jesus it says jesus but i want to say

01:47:11.620 jesus jesus malverde is the oldest religious symbol associated with el narco the real malverde

01:47:18.820 is renowned as a cinaloan bandit executed a century ago images of his saintly face adorn

01:47:24.740 amulets and statuettes, from marijuana fields in the Sierra Madre to prison cells in San Quentin.

01:47:32.220 Devotees will also venerate the folk saint at shrines and chapels, which generally feature

01:47:36.340 his iconic statue, easily recognized by his flamboyant mustache and dark eyebrows. He's

01:47:41.540 always dressed in a white shirt with a red or black tie, and sometimes devotees will put a

01:47:45.160 cowboy hat on his head or, more recently, baseball caps. They may offer candles or flowers along

01:47:49.720 with their prayer or splash holy water on his image as they petition him. And they say that

01:47:53.560 Malverde liked to live well during his lifetime, so practitioners will light cigars, cigarettes,

01:47:57.900 or marijuana joints for him, or they might offer him tequila or whiskey. And because he's known to

01:48:02.220 be a bit of a rogue, rumor has it that he occasionally asks for porn or even requests

01:48:06.980 women to flash him. Devotees will also undertake pilgrimages to his chapel in Culiacan, even

01:48:12.380 traveling long distances to the chapel to ask him for miracles. But they're not exclusive in their

01:48:17.000 veneration. As a Catholic folk saint, most also believe in God and may pray to the Virgin of

01:48:21.940 guadalupe for example i don't know what to make of that because that's interesting saying that

01:48:48.540 there are these narco religions and they are just in my mind perverted forms of catholicism

01:48:54.380 but they do seem to be popular with regular mexicans mexican peasants and this book is

01:49:02.000 not a serious investigation in the narcos religions but i've heard references to it

01:49:06.960 elsewhere and why would that not become a become a valid form of mexican christianity

01:49:15.460 That is the folkish or vocish Christianity for these people, because Christianity, as we've discussed with the Germanization of early medieval Christianity, takes on the folkish characteristics or retains many of the folkish characteristics of those people that really adhere to it eventually.

01:49:34.380 um and they they allow the evangelization process so it makes sense that the most popular form of

01:49:42.440 catholicism one day could be the narco catholicism where they have like narco saints yeah and it's

01:49:49.920 like skull cowboy boots and shit why why wouldn't jesus be in skull cowboy boots why wouldn't it be

01:49:55.240 breaking bad yeah why not why not why is why doesn't jesus have goku hair

01:50:01.160 he would he would why isn't it fused with fast and furious too by the way why doesn't he have

01:50:09.260 a camaro why doesn't he have a fucking muscle car he's got he's got the boots that curve back

01:50:14.280 around from the tip until they touch your ankle again yeah that is the only jesus that makes sense

01:50:20.320 for mexico yeah and they call him jesus cocaine cowboy jesus

01:50:24.600 damn

01:50:28.060 he goes here

01:50:30.260 the Santa Muerte or holy

01:50:32.280 death is physically a much more

01:50:34.260 aggressive symbol than that of

01:50:36.100 Jesus Malverde while the bandit

01:50:38.340 is just a mustachioed man in a white

01:50:40.260 suit Santa Muerte looks like

01:50:42.220 the grim reaper the skeletal figure has

01:50:44.160 hollowed eyes sharp teeth and a

01:50:46.260 head chopping halberd in his

01:50:48.140 right hand however one

01:50:50.100 marked difference from the reaper is that Santa

01:50:52.220 Muerte is a woman

01:50:53.720 referred to by her devotees as she she dresses up in a variety of clothes from black capes to

01:50:59.480 frilly pink dresses and often sports a colorful wig catholic critics say veneration of santa

01:51:04.700 muerte is the work of satan uh probably the accused of being a cult led by narcos and

01:51:10.960 argued this diabolical figure has driven mexico's orgy of violence as one of the leading scholars

01:51:16.860 of santa muerte andrew chestnut argues in his book devotees have been turning to her due to

01:51:21.740 reputation as the most powerful and fastest acting saint. Unlike God, who some might feel is distant

01:51:29.660 and not very easy to approach given how mighty God is, Santa Muerte is imagined to be open to

01:51:36.220 listening to people's prayers, and if they respect her and are loyal followers, willing to directly

01:51:42.380 intervene in their lives and gift them with miracles. And as we'll see, because she's death,

01:51:48.540 she judges nobody assassins hack off craniums they claim in tribute to the death incarnate

01:51:55.340 anthropologists meanwhile have a field day with the explosion of mexico's religious digression

01:52:00.860 santamuerte they say reflects the nation's age-old fascination with the deceased

01:52:05.820 as shown in his day of the dead the skeleton could even be a resurgence of an old aztec

01:52:12.220 deity named

01:52:13.560 some bullshit or the lady

01:52:16.220 of the land of the dead

01:52:17.640 so you know the anthropologist

01:52:20.140 might say hold on it's not

01:52:22.060 satanic it's just an ancient

01:52:23.900 Aztec death god

01:52:25.220 see it's okay guys

01:52:27.880 everybody relax well excuse

01:52:30.240 me

01:52:32.060 so I'll just end in this

01:52:35.860 he says from the beginning the criminal

01:52:38.100 insurgency was never a unified

01:52:40.100 project cartels fought each other

01:52:42.080 as well as the government for control of crucial drug smuggling routes the plazas the fragmented

01:52:47.600 and post id the fragmented and post ideological quality that's interesting post post ideological

01:52:55.600 but also ascendantly religious see what i mean it's like we're posting because it's not ideological

01:53:03.080 it's not communist fascist capitalist but it is self mythologizing that's an interesting turn to

01:53:11.020 me but anyway uh the fragmented and post ideological quality of the struggle often confused american

01:53:17.020 commentators used to the idea of a unified ideological maoist type insurgency yet the

01:53:22.960 essential character of the insurgency is something that klaus if klauswitz were around today and

01:53:28.560 turning and tuning into gangster-promoted narco-coronial music could definitely understand

01:53:33.760 any suggestion that the government is losing control is of course disastrous for brand

01:53:39.520 to mexico the mexican conflict cuts through politics in strange ways sparking responses

01:53:44.640 from everyone from gun lobbyists to anti-immigration groups phrases such as criminal insurgency

01:53:49.720 invariably anger or gratify certain interest groups he makes one point in the book that i

01:53:55.920 agree with we you'll hear people talk about mexico as a failed state of course because they see the

01:54:01.780 films they hear the music and they read the stories about all this orgy of violence but if

01:54:07.040 you look at mexico economically it's still one of the top economies globally yeah like it's better

01:54:13.700 than india it's better than most of asia it's got one of the largest middle classes around there's

01:54:21.540 quite a lot of money how much of that is drug related well not zero but it's not half you know

01:54:28.500 i mean like there's there is still a state that exists in mexico you can't call it a failed state

01:54:34.960 we know what it looks like so any conversation about mexico i think has to start with that

01:54:43.040 it seems to be doing better than most yeah and i think that's an uncomfortable truth and that

01:54:49.180 just might be the proximity to you know america would america allow itself to even neighbor a

01:54:55.940 total failed state of course not right but um so anyway so far what do you think about all this

01:55:01.220 this is just looking over i love it it's good it's good in mexico in mexico is your your neighbor

01:55:06.880 who's been smoking all his life is 65 and has terrible emphysema but he just won't fucking die

01:55:12.580 somehow he's actually he works a longer shift than you what's going on mexico what is what is

01:55:17.420 the secret yeah well it's becoming like here's like i've been watching a lot of videos on this

01:55:24.320 recently because if you want to get plugged into a youtube algorithm there's no shortage of

01:55:31.740 interviews with former cartel members or people who claim to be former cartel members and a lot

01:55:37.940 of these podcasts are hosted by like former they're like army vets or former special ops guys

01:55:43.560 right so you got special ops guys and they're wearing their tightest t-shirt they're drinking

01:55:48.020 their most army coffee that they're selling to and they're in a very nice expensive studio sitting

01:55:53.300 across from someone with their face blurred and i couldn't shake the idea that i'm being

01:55:57.720 propagandized you know here in the united states the american government has depicted these

01:56:03.380 individuals as if they're predators as if they're tigers they're not tigers they're house cats

01:56:09.160 but they're very clever house cats and so twice in their history they were able to manipulate the

01:56:15.620 american government into wiping out their enemies see when they were stuck in that pincer movement

01:56:20.600 And in the late 1990s, early 2000s, Zambada, that's where he reached into his cleverness bag.

01:56:26.340 He contacted the attorney in San Diego.

01:56:28.140 The attorney in San Diego started feeding information to the Department of Justice.

01:56:33.020 So, you know, they believe they operate under the principle identified by the military strategist,

01:56:38.600 Sun Tzu, 2,500 years ago, that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

01:56:42.280 They don't have to be stronger than Tijuana.

01:56:44.280 They just need an ally who's stronger.

01:56:46.080 Well, they have an uncle, Uncle Sam.

01:56:47.460 because like there's one guy again his face is blurred but he seems like a mild mannered guy

01:56:51.940 claimed to be an accountant for the cartel i think the sit alone cartel and he's trying to

01:56:57.660 tell me a story about how peaceful the sit alone cartel are right because if i were any of these

01:57:03.800 motherfuckers if i was in any way associated with any cartel i would not be doing a podcast tour i

01:57:09.440 don't care first of all they blur his face but don't obscure his voice which they used to do

01:57:14.220 so like they're gonna know who you are like how many american accountants do you guys have on the

01:57:18.660 payroll you could figure it out but you say like oh no they they have a firm rule they don't shoot

01:57:24.740 guns on american soil and i'm hearing that i'm like uh i don't i just don't think so i don't

01:57:30.980 think like they're not more peaceful than the bloods and crips you know i mean or like they're

01:57:36.340 they're maybe more intelligent but it also sounds like they're much more disorganized really how

01:57:41.460 like what what claim am i supposed to make or that they're all like decentralized cell structure

01:57:46.440 that are free agents that are just such believers in capitalism that they would never ever endanger

01:57:54.460 the cash flow and juxtapose that against the fact that like they're making incursions into america

01:57:59.940 and violence is going up and they're wiping out other gangs you know what i mean like i don't know

01:58:05.220 there's a lot of narratives and i i can't shake the feeling that these cartels as advanced and

01:58:13.860 developed and sensible as they might be are waging a media war right now to launder their image

01:58:19.620 trying to say that actually the cartels are pretty cool and you have nothing to fear from

01:58:23.060 the cartels you know what i mean like that's their pr move and they're doing it through

01:58:27.780 online content that's just that's just my belief anyway it says here the nightmare of el narco

01:58:35.580 stepping into american street gang warfare is starting to play out in the lone star state

01:58:40.740 which straddles half the mexican border this spillover has two fronts the central corridor

01:58:46.260 of el paso juarez and a thousand miles east in the gulf of mexico now known as the gulf of america

01:58:52.580 murder in texas attracts big investigation and juarez is one more of the 10 corpses hidden

01:58:58.320 streets daily mexico has become a killing field for american reared psychos so that's one thing

01:59:03.680 he's saying that look they might not kill you in america but what you do see is they'll kidnap you

01:59:11.440 from america take you to mexico and torture you kill you there and they know how to do it because

01:59:16.180 here's the thing we all understand how easy it is for mexicans to get over the border into america

01:59:20.960 it's 10 times easier to get people out of out of america into mexico yeah right so how so there

01:59:28.140 might not be blood spilling in texas but how many texans are disappearing and and disappearing

01:59:35.700 across the board they don't even find their fucking bodies so that you need to factor that

01:59:40.340 in the statistics and that's the real danger that they're smart enough not to make a big scene

01:59:44.860 they're also smart enough to have these mass graves of americans and that that's what happens

01:59:50.700 to you and by the way they can't even investigate that crime anymore so that to me is far more

01:59:57.080 frightening and far more dangerous and that really is what you need to pay attention to

02:00:00.500 don't buy into these stories of how pacifist they are like they think they'll never kill an

02:00:06.560 american in american soil wink wink okay how frequently do you get them into mexican soil

02:00:14.520 and I don't mean onto Mexican soil

02:00:17.220 I mean into Mexican soil

02:00:19.000 anyway so that's just

02:00:20.840 we'll end there and we'll get into

02:00:22.560 the second part of this in the next episode

02:00:24.920 anyways I had a great time

02:00:26.700 thank you so much for taking the time here

02:00:28.600 no worries good one man

02:00:29.600 I'll talk to you next time

02:00:31.040 see ya

02:00:44.520 but i got you back the clavin bun he's a real patriot i immediately said that

02:00:53.220 that was all it's true though it's true yeah no but like for those who don't know like there's

02:01:00.200 just we'll let people uh get in but we were talking about the efficacy of the second amendment

02:01:06.520 in america and i do get the argument like people like a were saying today like it you know in

02:01:11.300 terms of a mass scale it's probably never going to happen but it's not something i would want to

02:01:14.900 trade like coming from canada where we have like the most ridiculous gun laws and like the uk you

02:01:20.960 literally cannot have anything so it's like you know what i mean i wouldn't want to trade like

02:01:26.720 understand like as a polemic it's probably not going to happen but it's i kind of enjoy the

02:01:31.760 fact that there's there's a delightful bit of boomer cope that comes in with uh the second

02:01:37.100 amendment like it's it's to protect our rights and it's to protect and to rise up against

02:01:41.600 government there has not been an actual insurrection against the united states federal

02:01:45.380 government arguably since 1861 um we kind of unfortunately the one event in 2020 2021 yeah

02:01:54.080 you have to see for youtube yeah is we getting taken down boys oh no this show will be just like

02:02:00.600 um i can't make that joke you want to bet that dimes is less fed posty on your stream it will

02:02:06.460 be uncut and uncensored i just looked and realized that we're live oh shit sir i didn't know

02:02:12.020 no but i understand but i think like as an argument like okay america's high crime rate

02:02:18.840 is first of all you can't like really compare america to a lot of european nations you can't

02:02:23.840 really i mean the closest approximation even would be canada but still in terms of our population

02:02:28.440 apples to oranges it's a statistical nightmare to try and make accurate comparisons like this

02:02:33.680 this is the first thing they teach you in research into political science like it's a 20 it's like a

02:02:38.220 100 class is they're just like listen trying to do statistical analysis with s you know with anything

02:02:43.920 like that it's just not worth your time because there's so many other co-founding variables that

02:02:47.960 you have to control for it makes no statistical analysis difficult i don't accept the argument

02:02:52.560 and you see this in a lot of different other areas where it's like you know this thing is unlikely

02:02:58.040 so you should stop desiring it or agitating for it so to say that armed evolution or whatever is

02:03:04.340 unlikely in america then you should not desire guns or you should not agitate for gun rights

02:03:10.020 like those two things are incongruent you know we can admit that it's unlikely that you know the

02:03:16.380 tree of liberty will be slaked by the blood of pages whatever it might be but i'm like that is

02:03:21.780 not a reason for me to shut up about it like we don't have the same gun rights in canada

02:03:26.320 i like having guns i think we should have more of them yeah you know we're live back on twitter

02:03:32.160 now i had to fix something go ahead oh yeah no but like 100 yeah these arguments that are you

02:03:37.740 know just thinly veiled demands that people stop talking or stop wanting something i just don't

02:03:42.940 accept it who's smoking cigarettes geo that's cool the r the rfk has done his mass firing

02:03:53.920 and we're smoking american spirits is that what you smoked you yeah i only smoke american spirits

02:04:01.120 like i my old man smokes dks but like i only have like maybe a cigarette a week or whatever but like

02:04:06.360 i mostly stick to the gum you can't smoke a fine canadian cigarette can you i smoke occasionally

02:04:12.460 i will smoke dks my old man's a dk did the is are there tariffs on american tobacco are you paying

02:04:18.140 extra for no no no no they i think they let you have about 200 cigarettes over the border

02:04:24.460 a geo ordering 200 cigarettes you just have to yeah you just have to like declare it at the

02:04:29.980 border geo is doing the uh orville 500 cigarettes meme as he approaches canadian customs

02:04:37.060 he's he's ordering satchels of cigarettes yeah well my old man used to smoke john players but

02:04:44.900 he he likes a lot of like the more reserve specific brands like dk um i hate i hate native

02:04:51.580 cigarettes that's what we call them up here so native cigarettes yeah you go to the reserves

02:04:55.940 and you buy a giant ziploc bag of like 200 yeah yeah yeah and they're cheap as hell and they have

02:05:01.260 like stems in them and everything oh they're quite literally like the sweepings of the floor

02:05:06.960 where this stuff is packaged and it gives you strep throat it really like i had to self-smoke

02:05:11.900 back when i used to smoke cigarettes but uh yeah that was always you were really hard up for cash

02:05:17.720 if you were like you're just a chain smoking type of guy i'm not trying to say anything against you

02:05:22.120 but it's economical it's just terrible yeah like dks are all right like uh he'll still occasionally

02:05:29.560 get like john players but yeah like the but the real cheap ones are the ones in the bag like my

02:05:35.520 my old man's workers used to get them and it's like oh god put them in the freezer yeah yeah

02:05:41.660 that's brutal man it is like smoking just pure ash there's no whereas like some some native

02:05:49.220 cigarettes do have like a nice floral taste but like yeah everybody in canada is one degree of

02:05:55.320 separation away from the trailer park boys is this true this is true but uh anyways so i had

02:06:02.720 to go look up your your uh tobacco brands that are allowed there i'm matinee medallion paumal

02:06:08.760 vogue viceroy canadian classics rooftop john player dumari okay okay i presume they all suck

02:06:16.200 oh no they okay well you know i'm gonna have to go to canada one of these days

02:06:19.460 used to be really good but now if you ever host another live show dimes i'll go i just need to

02:06:24.940 let i just need to know so i can absolutely no no i'm i got one coming down the pike i'm gonna

02:06:29.420 let you know about i'm gonna find geo and i'm gonna put him in a triangle choke and i'm gonna

02:06:36.440 drag him to it i'm gonna pay him that is gonna be the greatest arms day of your life

02:06:41.740 i'm i'm gonna be so nice to geo tonight i made a decision and i've made a i'm prude's channel

02:06:50.140 let's go i made a promise myself i'm not gonna get geo in trouble there's a lot of things i'm

02:06:58.180 not going to say that i could say but i'm not going to say yeah but export green that's another

02:07:04.080 one oh man i like that the things that we're not going to talk about well that's a great way to

02:07:09.240 start episode 124 the age gap discourse begin oh that did you see that kid that got like i think

02:07:16.740 i heard apparently a lot of those channels are fake like vitale like he would pay actors but

02:07:23.360 that one kid that was 18 years old trying to hook up with a 16 year old like it's i thought that was

02:07:28.440 disgusting honestly a lot of them there's so many of them now and they're so popular i assume they're

02:07:33.800 fake but it's the last vestige of uh monetizable normie sadism vigilantism is good when the

02:07:43.460 government fails in the sense that like protecting private property but like doing things like this

02:07:49.260 because there's a piss poor culture or there's bad parenting involved or anything like that

02:07:53.820 usually it just leads to content slop like this and also that's a terrible thing that we've watched

02:07:59.060 in the span of i don't know a month and a half the word slop ago from a properly identifiable

02:08:03.340 term i know it when i see it to just a word i use to cast moral aspersions on my enemies like if

02:08:09.100 you're like i understand like if you're 25 you're trying to hook up with a 16 obviously that's

02:08:13.120 terrible but like an 18 year old's one of that like you know what i mean i don't know also here's

02:08:18.540 the thing when you when you would hear of um who's like the main guy who would do that who was like

02:08:23.120 the catch a predator there was a black guy that got killed actually it used to be that when they

02:08:30.360 were going to catch these guys you would trust yeah chris hansen you would trust that they were

02:08:34.760 you know chatting and pretending to be a 14 year old now it's just a bunch of like

02:08:38.780 black 22 year olds beating up people i'm like i don't trust that you were actually catfishing

02:08:43.780 this person you could have just been saying i'm 18 to get him there and then you had to just

02:08:48.400 wailing on him going i said i was 13 and he's stunned like what is going on that was like chaggot

02:08:53.960 when he was uh going around with baked alaska asking people because he admitted to like being

02:08:59.080 18 going with a 13 year old and he would ask like random people during this the the irl stream he's

02:09:04.580 like do you think it's all right when i was like 18 years old i went to bed with a 13 year old

02:09:08.820 and like they're like just randomly asking street people that was like i watched like the whole 10

02:09:14.340 now recino casino snipe of that one that was back when like ppp was with surfer that that's

02:09:19.500 that's when you would have that's when you would troll and respond and just casually ask well are

02:09:23.960 you islamic no but then like are you a reverter like the black guy he would go up to them he's

02:09:33.880 like what are you doing you're a predator and he would like pop their tires and he's like i don't

02:09:41.060 and so how many of those guys like so you said one of those guys got shot he actually got shot

02:09:45.380 yeah nothing of value was lost but it's different when they're like legit adults trying to like

02:09:51.860 creep on well yeah it's that those things are kind of justifiable but the problem is

02:09:56.920 many of these things geo are just done now for like reaction they're scripted it's like all those

02:10:03.220 videos that couples put together where they're like showering or whatever and then like someone

02:10:07.600 gets like hit and slapstick style fashion yeah these things are so carefully orchestrated to

02:10:12.920 deliver an exact response like you're just for all you've become you've become a victim of the

02:10:18.460 predator that is the attention economy do you remember that one viral tweet by calling mutant

02:10:23.060 that where the guy was like this black guy was like clearly mentally ill and they were just

02:10:28.240 beating the hell they actually the one guy did a rhino style gore the wrestler rhino did a rhino

02:10:34.680 snell gore like right through a beam like through an awning beam and it's like the guy was clearly

02:10:39.600 mentally disabled how many of them yeah exactly and holy mutants like is this just an excuse to

02:10:44.620 beat up on the mentally challenged people i'll tell you the only people i trust for content

02:10:49.660 at all are white schizos because white schizos were the only ones who could be trusted to hunt

02:10:55.780 down predators now it's just a bunch of black teenagers you don't know what they're doing

02:11:00.080 but back in the day back when the real content was made by real men it was white weirdos and

02:11:05.360 then just in pain now any old fucking tom dick and harry is trying to make women feel embarrassed

02:11:10.840 in public no no no you had to trust a very specific subset of white madman to do that

02:11:16.880 yeah no justin pain he i think he lives in toronto he yeah but the thing is like he would

02:11:22.180 go after like legit predators but at the same time it's like if you're entrapping people that's

02:11:27.480 like there is a gray area there like it's i don't know it's not yeah the problem just becomes

02:11:32.220 however like okay say you wanted to take that to court who wants to endure the public record of

02:11:36.900 like i'm suing this guy for defamation or assault because i was lured under false pretenses or

02:11:43.120 circumstances all these guys in court going it's called heavy a file and he's got like a 30 point

02:11:48.380 i'm representing my purse in the agree party yeah you know how chris hansen you know why chris

02:11:55.260 oh man that would be so much fun a a sovereign citizen getting catfished by a chris hansen

02:12:01.480 predator clone i'm sure that happened i am i am representing the injured third party and who are

02:12:08.080 you i am a representative of this legal fiction that is interested in another legal fiction that

02:12:12.620 happens to be per your laws 16 like i want that court transcript i want to be the court reporter

02:12:18.720 typing in my little shorthand keyboard notes for the absolute insanity of a sovereign citizen

02:12:24.500 trying to defend his desire to bang a 17 year old like knowing the demographic of libertarians

02:12:29.980 it's probably happened like it's like so what were you doing near this korean high school don't ask

02:12:35.000 questions man you're not i'm not subject to your laws you know how chris hansen got canceled

02:12:40.020 originally back in the mid-2000s because he was entrapping um a judge and a low like a local

02:12:47.020 county judge and when the police showed up to his house the guy sunsetted himself and they had the

02:12:55.880 footage and everything and so the mbc was is it abc or mbc mbc dateline is like listen this is

02:13:02.160 before they knew what good content was exactly yeah yeah so they couldn't do it anymore because

02:13:08.440 they're like we this is like they had a they had a moment of realization that this is actually like

02:13:13.320 fucking with people's lives so like the legal repercussions of doing the show was just like too

02:13:18.900 much so um yeah like that the guy it's just yeah and now he's just like touring the comic book

02:13:25.320 convention circuit or some shit do you remember when he went after one ecl on oh yeah that was

02:13:31.340 the critic named author that should have been a slam dunk and it wasn't like getting owned by

02:13:37.920 you know it's bad do you know what's crazy about that i remember i saw um times do you remember

02:13:44.640 was it a fort erie or they had like the friendship festival i think it was either

02:13:49.940 fort erie i forget but i remember um i saw with my old man we went one year we saw theory of a

02:13:57.480 dead man and it was like it's like a free concert near the lake and opening up for theory of a dead

02:14:03.000 man was that shiloh woman and they should have paid you for going to see a theory of a dead man

02:14:08.660 i actually like theory of dead man hey there's a i'm about to pivot on theory of a dead man

02:14:12.840 because i don't have a strong opinion but maybe they're great they're all right oh i'm just giving

02:14:18.160 geo a tough time we all like now right yeah no but so that shiloh it's so funny how we

02:14:23.960 out of the sake of a what was it 2001 2002 super bowl two halftime show yeah we decided to make

02:14:32.540 that great i mean i appreciate aristophanie's trying his best it was um the thanksgiving show

02:14:37.100 it was in the super bowl just around 9 11 yeah prude i thought you knew that i mean oh wait i

02:14:44.100 forgot you're not like really a football i'm not a sports guy i mean the uh are you a sports guy

02:14:49.600 oh half this show is geo complaining about which hockey game he's not

02:14:54.460 oh i didn't know if you're like a football like a sports guy like i watch basketball and golf and

02:15:00.800 all that no you're a baseball guy but i'm not a football guy i haven't watched wrestling in a

02:15:05.520 while because i used to like actually give money to new japan pro wrestling but then like aw just

02:15:10.200 poached everybody you used to give money to them well you had to subscribe to watch the whole thing

02:15:15.320 so you're just like donating well like it yeah you and you got access to the archive and everything

02:15:21.500 but no i haven't watched apparently they see the wwe products actually pretty good now

02:15:25.800 but i'm just like i haven't watched wwe i think so i love the idea of geo at like 15 like sponsoring

02:15:35.300 a japanese wrestler like it's like a female wrestler like a japanese female wrestler like

02:15:41.500 he's sponsoring a starving african child but instead he's sponsoring like a 35 year old

02:15:48.360 japanese woman who's like mentally ill and obsessed with american wrestling culture if

02:15:53.420 get to the third tier they crush your skull between your thighs you get to the third tier um

02:15:59.260 yeah mayumi ozaki crushes your skull with your thighs um new japan announcers reading geo super

02:16:05.720 chats that'd be amazing back when they had kevin kelly i think he left though but so anyways like

02:16:10.580 apparently they say ring of honor is doing all right again um tna is affiliated with wwe which

02:16:16.300 nobody thought would ever happen back when i was a kid um but it's just uh i haven't watched the

02:16:21.900 product because like wrestling's in north america has been ratified like nothing else it's gay man

02:16:26.780 you know what really did you know what the straw that broke the camel's back for me

02:16:30.220 was when i saw a video on twitter of nick gage who is like a death match legend

02:16:38.880 mortal kombat nick cage no that's johnny cage oh nick gage the wrestler cinema's nick cage

02:16:45.780 no no no so no no no you're thinking of lucas gage the pizza i was thinking of lucas gage

02:16:52.460 yeah so he would he had this video he i think he wrestles for gcw now he's like trans rates

02:16:59.120 to human rights holy shit i'm like oh here you go the guy that like went through you know

02:17:04.100 harrowing feats with his body and in like the whole like early days of death match wrestling

02:17:09.680 he's like you know i love my trans homies it's like okay this is enough this is it i can't watch

02:17:15.520 that's when you know you need to retire yeah yeah but no i only watch hockey now dimes it's really

02:17:21.920 the only thing i watch in terms of sports um but uh anyway and real listeners of the show know that

02:17:28.020 when geo's not paying attention he's watching hockey i'm watching the maple leafs game

02:17:32.020 he really is trying to be the ppp of this show and just like lightning he wants that crossover

02:17:40.300 to happen so bad yeah and by the way who said in the chat um the sadism towards dark so that was a

02:17:47.280 great i watched all five hours while i was painting i was i watched all five hours and you didn't

02:17:52.820 stream yourself painting huh interesting i know i should i should the of the kino casino takedown

02:17:58.900 of dark side phil the snake inning of dark side phil phil phil burnell truly is a hideous uh like

02:18:06.100 lug a bed and uh he deserves all the misery he gets so um well phil's an interesting character

02:18:12.660 because he's been around for so long that there's always a new crop of people who are just discovering

02:18:17.140 phil and they think it's this charming funny lol cow but like a lot of them if you spend enough

02:18:22.520 time just dealing with him you begin to hate him and then it's not funny anymore exactly so true

02:18:28.540 yeah so do you want to talk about eric abatto and the uh gorilla not gorilla the the you know

02:18:35.340 it would really truly be an april fool's joke on the entirety of the audience if we talked about

02:18:40.760 some woman or do we want to talk about yay in his uh interracial uh video the interracial of the

02:18:48.240 the interview where he was dressed in a black man oh that one too but also the recent uh video he

02:18:55.940 posted on twitter no i think we're good that would be that would be cruel and unusual and

02:19:02.340 unnecessary i could theory sell that video it's funny because like i will say one thing is that

02:19:07.140 i do not abide by the particular type of prom that he was posting but it's funny how he splices in a

02:19:14.500 lot of clips from like the 80s and in the 70s so the guy he's like really digging geo really turns

02:19:20.600 to tarantino he's talking about interracial yeah geo just really loves this sort of stuff he just

02:19:27.540 really wants to say the n-word is what he really wants to do no but at the very he really wants

02:19:32.620 that you know that dead storage in the end he splices in a clan rally and i felt like it was

02:19:40.700 now it's commentary you now it's exegesis you could do a lacunian analysis a lacanian

02:19:48.300 maybe you can only do a lacanian analysis or something like that no but here's the thing

02:19:55.060 like a lot of the gripers the board of prisons disagree like if i would just be critical for a

02:19:59.580 minute of the gripers a lot of them they okay i know some of them are rappers or whatever like

02:20:04.060 they they don't see the artistry of what yay is trying to do with that you know what i mean

02:20:09.780 like he's trying to do this subversive um why are you talking like motherfucking stuff

02:20:14.340 for all yeah no but that's what i mean like i understand like what he was doing from a theory

02:20:20.880 cell perspective but i cannot endorse putting interracial prawn i can't endorse you giving

02:20:26.960 this guy as much agency as you've been willing to give i get well also he's done this before

02:20:33.160 like this whole thing this is not new you know it's so funny so when dimes and i first cooked

02:20:39.240 up the idea of doing a book show it was because he'd done this what was it four years ago during

02:20:44.320 in 2020 and we covered that book the um what went wrong the creation the collapse of the black

02:20:50.720 jewish alliance which you can find on odyssey and then we we maybe touched like a third of the book

02:20:54.800 and then like a few years like a few months later the whole candace owens stuff started

02:20:58.860 and they were like well dimes we're back again i feel like um you know dr manhattan at this point

02:21:05.500 where it's just like it's 2020 and we're still talking about kanye west it's 2022 and we're

02:21:10.820 still talking about kanye west it's 2025 and i'm still talking about kanye west no but there's this

02:21:16.080 one shot where no one cares this woman's like no one geo no one just cares i don't want to hear

02:21:25.440 posting black porn i don't want to hear it consciously choosing these images because

02:21:31.700 there's this like white girl like looking over the black shoulder in her eyes you know okay okay

02:21:37.300 april fool this is great oh my god listen i could i could educate the gripers in art theory i could

02:21:43.880 do this i could educate the gripers in aesthetic analysis and they would be much better for it

02:21:49.880 if they want to go with yay they have to know something about art theory and art history why

02:21:54.160 don't you finish your book and then they can learn all about neoliberal kitsch maybe maybe

02:21:58.720 but then the clan rally at the end was that was the cutting it's like in a haiku eventually

02:22:04.960 take myself out on stream so it was like the clan money shot is what you're saying no but that's

02:22:10.900 what i mean like to him it's like sort of exploiting like the racial uh libidinal undertones

02:22:15.960 of american society like that's his whole shtick which oh my god it's bowling for colin byne what's

02:22:21.260 next well that's what i mean it's been around for a long time like in the 80s they had this

02:22:26.480 you know what i mean like there was always a libidinal drive to american racial politics

02:22:31.340 and pornography so like i get what he's trying to do but also like i am just soft is like dough

02:22:37.580 fresh into the oven like please stop talking can i just say one thing about he had this line on

02:22:43.520 the recent interview he did where he's dressed like a black klansman right yeah he's black like

02:22:49.040 he's uh dressed like those spanish catholic processions it was so funny that he arrives at

02:22:54.720 the dj academics arrives at his hotel room and he's dressed normally he's like okay give me a

02:23:01.340 then comes back dressed like that but it was amazing it made a comment that really just

02:23:06.020 illuminated what he's doing and because a lot of people are thinking oh he's really

02:23:09.860 woke on all this stuff or hip to the jig or whatever like no he's not not really and then

02:23:15.200 he had made a comment it was something to the tune of um these people wear our pain yeah on

02:23:21.480 their chest they montana said so i'm wearing their pain on my chest i'm like okay and then a lot of

02:23:25.800 black people are like oh i get it now but i'm like okay so this really is sort of a

02:23:30.520 black nationalist type of thing and i'm just surprised that more jewish people or no yeah

02:23:35.700 he's saying i'm wearing i'm wearing jewish pain on my chest because jewish you know the industry

02:23:40.940 which he says is jewish is wearing black pain they're monetizing black pain they're soizing

02:23:46.280 it so he's trying to commoditize the holocaust i'm like that's interesting norman finkelstein

02:23:51.360 would be so proud no but you know it's funny because uh d who is the one part of uh run dnc

02:23:57.820 chuck d was a chuck d uh well he was in um public enemy public enemy yeah public enemy he he actually

02:24:04.640 wrote that in his book about like uh music industry people of a certain variety exploiting

02:24:10.020 black bodies or whatever yeah i stand corrected i'm gonna cut this whole section out that's what

02:24:15.660 no but that's what i mean like it's it's a very old hat like i understand what kanye is doing but

02:24:20.760 it is a very old trope among like black nationalist circles and that intersect with uh the music

02:24:26.100 industry you know what i mean like that is if you want to know more you can go read the creation

02:24:30.100 and the collapse of the black jewish alliance which it's all in there like it's the entire

02:24:35.500 history of the relationship between black america and jewish america yeah yeah but uh it's written

02:24:43.180 by a rabbi i believe unless no it's it's written it's written by a jewish civil rights attorney

02:24:48.100 named uh murray friedman who was on the american jewish council in the 90s before he died

02:24:54.120 yeah and the tone of the book which is interesting because it's very detailed

02:24:58.200 and very you know historically nuanced but his tone is more like we did so much for them why do

02:25:04.900 they do this to us he was just like we helped create the NAACP and we wouldn't let them run

02:25:12.180 it until like the last Jewish guy died on the board like we did all this stuff for them why

02:25:17.360 do they hate us because why are we still haunted by the ghost of Marcus Garvey and then you read

02:25:22.900 the whole book and dimes and i were going through it we're like wow nothing has changed 100 years

02:25:28.100 but do you think that kanye is doing like you know the whole like wig not like who runs the

02:25:33.440 produce here is he doing like literal no like i don't know is kanye pro or anti-white person

02:25:39.220 he's he's really just doing the i am a black man who needs a scapegoat and i'm picking the most

02:25:45.200 obvious one that has screwed him over in the industry yeah but this has happened many times

02:25:50.660 in the last 40 years to get their sand is kanye west is more pro-black than most white nationalists

02:25:57.780 are pro-white so like he he is leading with his pro-blackness he hasn't he might make alliances

02:26:03.100 with a nick guentes but he's really using them he's been very open about his pro-blackness

02:26:07.900 his entire career and he'll alter alternate between criticizing whiteness and criticizing

02:26:14.120 criticizing jews is just the most recent one but like his narrative and his argument's been

02:26:20.320 relatively unchanged since the beginning of his career um he would have been alongside

02:26:25.860 lupe fiasco and these types of guys um but that's why i'm so surprised more rappers didn't side with

02:26:33.000 them because half of all of hip-hop is a nation of islam uh aligned entities so like why wasn't

02:26:38.800 lupe fiasco why wasn't kendrick fucking lamar signed with him where's jay electronica wu-tang

02:26:44.920 clan are like five percent nation guys yeah like why aren't they support so it was like this weird

02:26:49.820 version of that you know but they're they're all farrakhan guys every single one of them so i'm

02:26:55.340 like it's interesting that he's being hung out to dry here so they're like there's an interesting

02:26:59.400 happening in the black community i'm like you guys don't really know how to process this

02:27:03.840 but but then farrakhan would make strategic alliances with people that you would consider

02:27:09.000 like white nationalists or whatever kind of like the nation of islam itself with like uh i mean i

02:27:14.540 think he sided with george like a rockwell yeah exactly and and also like he went on alex jones

02:27:18.780 and they had like a good meeting and everything but so you think that kanye is posting a racial

02:27:23.260 cuck prawn as a sort of like is it's not so much of like a wake up white america but it's more of

02:27:28.960 like haha fuck you i i honestly think he's actually a pervert and i'm not just joking i

02:27:33.680 say that that he's notoriously just a porn addict someone made a comment like he is just a gooner

02:27:39.040 and there's all these stories about like he would invite people over to his house and you just have

02:27:43.100 poured on in the middle of the day like really that's a real hooter right there yeah it's just

02:27:48.640 like a thing to do and he's always talking about butts he's talking about butts and common shit

02:27:52.600 and that's just so that's his language with which he appropriates politics what an impressive way

02:27:58.220 to you know start off the very last episode of this show this is what people will hear

02:28:04.280 when this ends and it's over but i do think that there is an intertextual thing like posting the

02:28:10.000 clan rally like there is a sort of theory

02:28:11.960 cell may you please

02:28:13.360 save it for the coal report because that's all we've been

02:28:15.800 talking about for the last 10 fucking minutes

02:28:17.660 I need to actually talk to a gripper I need to get my friend

02:28:19.600 Pith on the show so I don't want to be buried alive

02:28:21.860 with you Gio we must move on

02:28:23.360 Jesus we need to get a

02:28:25.740 gripper on the podcast to explain this

02:28:27.820 it can be on yours

02:28:29.840 okay

02:28:31.300 who do I know besides

02:28:33.340 you can ask on your own

02:28:35.860 time you have wasted 10

02:28:37.840 minutes of mine the thing is I don't want

02:28:39.860 of like because if as soon as you ask like hey can i get a gripper in the show you're gonna get

02:28:44.220 trolled by them immediately congratulations that's why i don't want to do it here all right

02:28:49.220 holy fuck i know i don't want their eyes on us like wow sorry proof some self-awareness

02:28:55.720 i just thought that it was like self-awareness

02:28:58.680 Louis Farrakhan

02:29:00.920 Jesus Christ

02:29:04.900 Oh man

02:29:06.540 Why am I here

02:29:07.200 It's your episode

02:29:11.460 It's your episode

02:29:12.540 We're reviewing a documentary that you wanted us to review

02:29:15.740 No Dimes wanted us to review

02:29:17.320 We're back in 2009

02:29:18.720 I'm talking about Kanye West

02:29:20.860 It's 2009

02:29:21.960 I'm talking about oil

02:29:23.820 It's 2009

02:29:25.000 I don't know

02:29:27.160 I don't want this documentary to be pinned

02:29:29.860 on me, by the way.

02:29:32.020 I'm almost positive this

02:29:33.860 came from Gio.

02:29:35.480 I'm now going to have to watch our cut episode.

02:29:38.980 You know what?

02:29:40.160 This documentary, and I guess

02:29:41.480 because we are half an hour into this at this point.

02:29:43.760 Dear God, I spent 15 minutes

02:29:45.720 of it talking about fucking Kanye West.

02:29:47.500 Allow me to seg you.

02:29:49.960 Speaking of drilling for oil,

02:29:52.100 let's talk about collapse.

02:29:55.920 Oh, collapse.

02:29:57.160 look at this from handless i love the jews trying to price some deeper meaning from

02:30:03.120 connie west posting interracial porn

02:30:05.040 like this to me is gonna be one of the funniest clips just one of my one of my favorite memes i

02:30:12.340 saw was i'm not racist i have a black friend and the black and it says the black friend it's that

02:30:17.760 clip of connie west and the clan

02:30:19.900 i feel like what we're missing is some really great comments where we got funny valentine

02:30:28.680 saying peak oil is why this coal exists oh that's good lincoln park blaring in the background

02:30:38.540 oh this hazel says hazel says this is the digital archipelago it's all coal

02:30:45.900 oh man tyrone biggum oh i love you i just want to call attention to this now you know what we'll

02:30:57.940 move on from kanye west but i found interesting about um daft punk up there but we'll move on

02:31:02.780 um so first of all prude i think you're as good a person to start with this as as any because you

02:31:08.780 had not seen this documentary before is that correct that is correct i watched it this morning

02:31:14.660 it works so i would have seen this right when it premiered i think like 2009 maybe 2009 yeah um

02:31:21.860 geo you have a history with this as well when did you first see it i saw it around like 2010 2011

02:31:27.020 yeah and when i saw this you know this was pre anything pre any sort of online discourse around

02:31:34.240 this area um you might have been plugged into conspiracy theory stuff for very very politics

02:31:39.220 But like to me, when I first saw this, I hadn't really seen anything like it.

02:31:43.840 I was already tuned into Coast to Coast AM.

02:31:47.040 I was already tuned into sort of subversive media.

02:31:49.820 So this was right up my alley.

02:31:51.680 But and the fact that this was a pretty big documentary when it dropped.

02:31:55.600 A lot of people, you can find it online now.

02:31:57.440 But I remember this was premiering in theaters.

02:32:00.040 There was big reviews of it.

02:32:01.320 Like this was a pretty big event.

02:32:03.280 And it was just literally two cameras on this one guy in a black room sitting on a chair, just expounding upon his theories of life, but also the damnable importance of oil in the world.

02:32:20.820 And that's it. That's really it.

02:32:22.780 But what I liked about it was, especially viewing it now, it's like a time capsule.

02:32:27.920 So we can go back to all the claims he made back then about peak oil and other things and contrast that against what we know now. But Prude, I'm curious, what were your first impressions of this?

02:32:39.560 so uh you know we've talked about a lot on the show in the past how the financial crisis and

02:32:50.280 new atheism and that sort of like perfect moment of occupy wall street and the rest and that obama

02:32:57.220 era of conservatism had really gave you two different ways to go you either had uh sort of

02:33:04.340 the early alt-right or you had what we would kind of call wokeism today or just leftism or whatever

02:33:10.040 you want to call it and so i i joked with geo before you came on uh backstage was that there

02:33:16.400 is about a what 15 18 year time difference between a majority of what michael rupert is talking about

02:33:25.100 in this documentary in comparison to what a lot of like maybe rizoma school raw egg nationalist

02:33:33.160 types are talking about on twitter and i think that that's sort of an interesting k-line to

02:33:38.660 follow uh because the first 25 minutes is very oliver stone early you know gen x boomer liberalism

02:33:49.420 about the cia about why we invaded iraq and it feels very it felt like a blast in the past

02:33:57.280 because it's 2025 and i'm listening to the late michael rupert say we're never going to leave

02:34:01.420 iraq we're never gonna leave afghanistan and we have no presence in either country and we got

02:34:06.540 jack shit in terms of oil in terms of deals out of either of those countries and both of those

02:34:12.240 governments uh one of them is now still ran by the taliban and then the other one you know in

02:34:16.940 the shadow of uh us leaving has got a lot of iranian influence in that country and it doesn't

02:34:23.340 have the world's best relationship with us anyways and democracy is kind of a joke and so it's like

02:34:27.720 well we're building all these things we have all these troops there we're never gonna leave

02:34:30.240 this is like well you know um and then of course you know he this is right before this comes out

02:34:37.640 it's really right before the shale oil boom with fracking and all these other famous documentaries

02:34:41.520 like gasland and the rest come out and so uh you have this framing device for an existential crisis

02:34:48.620 which regardless of whether or not you believe in peak oil or not um he is absolutely correct

02:34:53.740 in the sense that like you know there's uh there's sort of this malthusian problem that we have to

02:34:58.540 deal with and we have this population issue and everything's running on energy and we need to

02:35:03.060 look at how the ways to get around it he doesn't go very in depth into some of these issues like

02:35:08.340 you know why about you know nuclear or he talks a lot about the regulatory stuff i'm like well

02:35:12.900 that's a good reason to maybe cut some of these regulatory issues but uh you know mainly wind and

02:35:17.460 solar and then we talk about that and then but he just points out he loves wind and solar uh

02:35:23.680 although it was really funny to me and i think i texted geo at the beginning i was like hey isn't

02:35:27.280 it interesting that in the first 10 minutes of this documentary he kind of just tells me that

02:35:32.180 he glows even though he doesn't glow you know like or maybe he does you know he says oh i was

02:35:36.500 on the lapd for several years before i i resigned and i'm sure it's because of pressures both his

02:35:41.160 parents were pretty high up in the italian yeah and he had q clearance and his you know his dad

02:35:45.960 was a family was working with the government at one his whole family like his mother was uh worked

02:35:51.760 with some kind of transcription

02:35:53.400 stuff with codes and whatnot

02:35:55.700 cryptography and I'm just like this

02:35:57.760 you know glows on

02:35:59.740 any other thing but then you listen to him talk

02:36:01.520 and then you're like okay so this is very Oliver

02:36:03.600 Stone-esque kind of progressivism

02:36:05.660 for the early 2000s

02:36:07.760 and he's like well I thought the best

02:36:09.620 line he had in the entire thing was like I don't deal in

02:36:11.520 conspiracy theory I deal in conspiracy fact

02:36:13.580 like that's so good that's so

02:36:15.660 good for all the reasons that

02:36:17.340 well it's good for all

02:36:19.680 the reasons that people won't appreciate

02:36:21.760 um yeah because it's the same shit that we talk about today's like um you know like oh the

02:36:26.300 difference between a right-wing conspiracy theory and like the headlines is like 15 months and it's

02:36:30.640 just like yeah but like this like boomer who hates you uh probably would agree and but he would just

02:36:36.980 hate the fact that you're right i you know he's like well i grew up republican and now i'm just

02:36:41.320 like oh well you know the drugs and cia and i can front in john deutch and i was this writer and i

02:36:46.860 had a large subscriber count like it's a different kind of media where way before the internet yeah

02:36:52.500 well i mean even then he had the internet but even then i mean he died in 2014 but he had a

02:36:56.200 website before he you know his health declined and he left but the documentary is literally just

02:37:00.780 chris smith with a camera um and he's uh he's a well-known documentarian uh filmmaker he's done

02:37:07.880 uh jim and andy he did the fire festival documentary he did um senior talking about the

02:37:14.580 robert downey jr family um but he was also a big part of making this film happen and this is kind

02:37:20.220 of what got him uh famous in a lot of ways and also the unfortunate fact is that he died by

02:37:26.300 suicide yeah and that it maybe it shouldn't but that always colors everything he says a bit

02:37:33.100 differently because like he said this is a very specific sort of guy and by the way um we are

02:37:37.980 talking about the film collapse i saw hazel was in the chat wondering what the name was um there

02:37:43.660 is a copy of this on

02:37:45.600 YouTube was there any interest of like throwing that

02:37:47.600 up and like watching a bit of it

02:37:49.380 yeah that might help people understand

02:37:51.760 a bit that first you know

02:37:53.340 15 minutes is pretty good

02:37:55.480 he goes through a lot of the first 15 minutes but

02:37:57.380 he's very specific type of guy

02:37:59.300 and I'm gonna miss this type of guy

02:38:01.500 when he's gone he looks

02:38:03.660 like like a Tim and Eric side

02:38:05.680 character who went through a divorce

02:38:07.760 like he just

02:38:09.460 actually did go through a divorce I believe

02:38:11.140 oh of course he did and at the end of his life he was

02:38:13.580 living on a commune up in the mountains he likes playing acoustic guitar likes his daughter he's

02:38:18.340 sort of like a boomer hippie but also former cop also intelligence adjacent you know i mean and so

02:38:27.180 he's got this really interesting attitude and personality about stuff you know remove it whether

02:38:32.940 you not believe in anything he says i'm just like this is watching him is compelling well some basic

02:38:38.940 information dimes would be that he claims at the beginning of this documentary collapse which came

02:38:43.440 out in 2009 but i believe it was recorded in 2008 or right after the financial collapse that he

02:38:48.800 claims him and his quants firm predicted more or less so he says that it started off to sort of

02:38:56.120 catalog his life as an fbi informant but then he's like i don't want to talk about my involvement in

02:39:02.940 iran contra and the crack cocaine crisis in the 80s i'm going to talk about peak oil that's to me

02:39:09.660 that's more interesting he does go into a little bit of his connections so his family was heavily

02:39:14.900 involved with various intelligence agencies his father in particular and notice how a lot of and

02:39:20.840 this is why people are skeptical of people like Alex Jones for example because a lot of the

02:39:25.120 connections like Michael Rupert Alex Jones Bill Cooper to an extent of course like Ted Gunderson

02:39:30.180 was an FBI agent that then defected although Bill Cooper has a lot of legitimacy because he was

02:39:35.580 legitimately killed by the fbi by the way so for example alex jones i remember nobody remembers

02:39:41.280 this by the way i remember this because i used to be a presidious alex jones listener when i would

02:39:45.600 come home from school on the bus i would listen with my earphones on he claims that his father

02:39:51.140 as a dentist was recruited in a government program and that he met a very rich wealthy

02:39:57.100 uh person in texas that was connected to one of these like inner families that essentially run

02:40:03.520 texas and he said that he was with this uh he was 13 years old and he was with this uh 13 year old

02:40:10.600 girl that seduced him he claimed when they were both like pre-teens right and he's talking to

02:40:17.040 the father and he's like oh i see that you like reading history and i know your father and your

02:40:21.360 father's respectful man he goes here you like my daughter you want to fuck her like i fuck her too

02:40:25.680 and it's like he actually said this on air by the way and alec shows like i have to get out of here

02:40:29.920 i have to get out of there um so oh y'all you remember that one story i told i was listening

02:40:35.480 to alex jones when they allegedly copped in latin i was laughing my head off because he uh

02:40:39.400 was he did a remix of the song uh by lee greenwood uh god bless the usa um so anyways michael rupert

02:40:47.820 uh to give some biographical background he has a very famous episode on joe rogan

02:40:53.440 before he died and he basically like you said he was living on a hippie commune compound that

02:40:59.360 was adjacent to a native reservation and he would go on these um sweat lodge journeys and he they

02:41:06.920 said his health was declining people speculate if drugs were involved and he believed that the end

02:41:13.380 of the world or rather the end of western civilization was upon us and that he had served

02:41:18.360 his purpose in life and therefore he had committed you know he sunsetted so he was a very tragic

02:41:25.820 figure that led a very tragic life and a lot of his stuff was sort of like hippie boomerism

02:41:30.540 but i think that the documentary will show you that even the notes of optimism that he had was

02:41:38.440 colored by this very very deep boomer style depression at the state of the world especially

02:41:44.580 you have to realize this was 2008 this was when people by the thousands were losing their lives

02:41:50.100 it's sort of like when um was it me and you prude was it just me that covered the um movie that was

02:41:56.060 from the uh walter kern book up in the air or is it just you covered that solo yeah yeah like if

02:42:03.480 you remember that movie uh all of like the the corporate waste that went into like downsizing

02:42:09.660 where he's just seeing like the rows of cubicles and the rows of office chairs off in the distance

02:42:15.740 while he's downsizing people like this was the world that we lived in i'm not me not me and dimes

02:42:20.800 because as we know uh stephen harper and jim flaherty basically uh managed to kick the can

02:42:26.420 down the road about 10 years till trudeau came in there so us leafs were spared the financial

02:42:31.400 crisis whereas american millennials were not although i don't know dimes you technically a

02:42:35.740 millennial yes i am i'm not that old um but yeah like uh you're an older one you have life and

02:42:41.220 kids and everything yeah yeah well because with america you have economically more peaks and

02:42:46.180 valleys and with uh the canada economy it was more this just steady lower dog shit thing like

02:42:52.900 we survived it without much disruption but it wasn't great before or after yeah look at what

02:42:59.520 penultimate said look highlight that geo started listening to conspiracies after he found out his

02:43:05.460 parents would light up about the train stop oh that's so good that's so good but yeah you were

02:43:17.260 saying that i'm sorry i cut you off uh i think i'd said it i was actually just looking at the

02:43:22.520 uh chats right here there's some so with mark troubles he cries in the documentary he had

02:43:26.680 severe manic depression i mean i believe it yeah and also like the suicide i don't know if you

02:43:32.200 could say that on this episode don't want to get it taken down of course let's say oh please you

02:43:38.460 just talked about everything in the last 20 minutes i think we can say that the man killed

02:43:42.260 himself but if you actually do believe what he believed then of course you would do something

02:43:48.160 drastic which is the whole point that if you have internalized that much nihilism of the state of

02:43:53.340 things and if you truly believe that it's going to be total anarcho-tyranny in a oil-less world

02:44:00.660 which is going to happen in 15 years you know very very soon then you would say well i'm just

02:44:05.660 gonna blow my brains out because who wants to experience that it really is the consequence of

02:44:13.880 analyzing as much as you have and not anticipating a way out um and i mean that leads you with little

02:44:20.620 to no options and i mean i wouldn't and i mean if you honestly believe let's say for instance the

02:44:24.540 world as we know it comes to an end and you're going to be an old man with not much going for

02:44:30.300 you at that time i could see how you might want to end things or or worse because you're manic

02:44:34.500 depressive um that you you come to the unfortunate conclusion that that's really the only way out of

02:44:39.680 here especially when he had said that you know in his in his books that you know he his death would

02:44:47.060 not come until god decides to take him or that um he's it's not cost effective to kill him and uh

02:44:55.280 you know the response would cause more problems than it would solve i'm not that important to

02:44:58.800 kill which is pretty pretty dark but also i remember a video crude before he died there

02:45:04.880 was this video where he was in a sweat lodge and the guy that produced i believe was one of his

02:45:10.380 producers this was released after he had sunsetted and he said he had a vision in the sweat lodge

02:45:17.280 where he's like i've fulfilled my purpose it's over it's it that's it i remember stay off the

02:45:23.200 reserves don't go to sweat lodges don't even talk to indians by the way it's nothing good's ever

02:45:29.080 come of it just give them money for the cigarettes and that's it yeah or take the cigarettes i mean

02:45:35.040 i want people to live yeah but you were saying prude well so i mean a lot of the documentary

02:45:43.220 to me i mean it really does focus on peak oil although you get snippets of his life

02:45:46.960 and some of the things that he's uh he's talked about but i mean like if there was ever a moment

02:45:51.320 that you wanted to go back in time and you wanted to see what alt media and i don't mean that like

02:45:56.840 like the right or the left but just like alt media period was talking about during the bush

02:46:02.520 administration this is your guy to go to and so for someone like me who doesn't know that much

02:46:07.600 about him and i spent like my entire lunch hour just reading about him and reading and listening

02:46:13.260 to old talks and interviews that he had given um you know he he was you know to to make the claim

02:46:19.520 and to show that he did talk about it years prior to the financial crisis with mortgage-backed

02:46:23.560 securities and default credit swaps. That's an impressive thing to do on your own and to have

02:46:27.640 your firm or your guys do that with you. But also that like, you know, he's talking about like the

02:46:32.700 Hirsch report and what do we need to do about like peak oil and what is the government talking

02:46:38.180 about it? Why are we invading here? Here's why the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge is pointless

02:46:42.820 to drill for oil. And it is a blast from the past. And like I said at the beginning, you know,

02:46:48.960 like oh a lot of these talking points have made their way into what now would be considered very

02:46:54.160 reactionary because it's no longer very liberal i mean like for a lot of progressives the things

02:47:00.420 that are being talked about here are just aren't talked about by progressives these days because

02:47:05.580 the the left ironically has become very metaphysical about immutable characteristics

02:47:11.800 and what does it mean to be a woman and what does it mean to be black and what is the black

02:47:15.940 experience and now we've turned you've turned the immutable into great uh grifts and great

02:47:22.920 materialist things so like the because now what is climate change climate change has become the

02:47:27.620 ultimate progressive catch-all for syndicures government bureaucracies regulations and making

02:47:32.720 sure that taxes are refunded back towards your specific client group it's not about saving the

02:47:38.560 world it is a messianic you know snake oil salesman there is no cross there is only like a

02:47:45.320 weird 17 year old with fucking like fetal alcohol syndrome telling you how dare you

02:47:50.820 while you know there are legitimate things that we are doing like rupert talks about like

02:47:55.760 monsanto which is something i never hear liberals talk about anymore unless they're over the age of

02:48:00.020 50 i never hear anyone talk about it's good actually because oh yeah well yeah because

02:48:04.560 they're just like i love big corporation i love jb pritzker i love my israeli pharmaceutical

02:48:10.980 companies decreasing my testosterone

02:48:12.940 levels. They love it so much. Whereas

02:48:14.880 your older boomers would be like,

02:48:17.040 I want to know who killed JFK. Why didn't

02:48:19.000 we give all the crack to the blacks?

02:48:20.820 And oh my god, I'm not going to be able to farm

02:48:23.120 on my own local co-op

02:48:24.900 because I own frankincense and they're

02:48:26.920 going to sue me. The last boomer will not

02:48:29.000 die until they actually

02:48:30.760 say who killed JFK.

02:48:32.760 So we're going to be stuck with them for

02:48:34.760 quite some time.

02:48:35.780 I just want to call attention to a couple of comments

02:48:38.720 here real quick. Mitchy Peachy

02:48:40.840 here says fuck i thought the stream was on friday thank you for joining us sweetheart stay out of

02:48:46.140 the first half an hour of this stream uh we got tree surgeon over here uh quite a few of my friends

02:48:52.180 are natives i've done the sweat lodge several times it's actually quite refreshing we got to

02:48:57.320 help this guy he's balanced on the knife's edge he doesn't even know what danger he's in um third

02:49:04.240 thing i actually wanted to call attention to we mentioned peak oil quite a bit um and it might

02:49:08.700 It helped to explain to people who don't know.

02:49:10.260 What is the theory of dimes?

02:49:10.640 Yeah, what is the theory?

02:49:11.480 Pigol, he explains it pretty early on in the documentary as well.

02:49:14.160 You know, it's just this idea that oil, petroleum, it's a non-renewable resource.

02:49:18.740 And so it would logically follow that there will be a peak point of oil production, at

02:49:25.000 which point it will begin to decline because it's non-renewable.

02:49:27.980 You're going to run out.

02:49:29.400 And so on that decline, you will start to see society collapse.

02:49:32.920 So it's this idea.

02:49:33.900 They don't know when it's going to happen that everyone's predicting within the next

02:49:37.660 10 years or so.

02:49:38.500 but it's this idea that well if it's non-renewable it has to run out and there will be a time when

02:49:44.000 we just pass that threshold yeah and there's some people that believe the opposite they believe

02:49:51.380 that like campbot believes in the abiotic oil i'm i'm more of i'm friendly to that idea it's called

02:49:57.440 the deep hot biosphere and for people who don't know that is just to briefly summarize it it's

02:50:02.360 the theory that we actually don't know what creates oil um they would say it's it's from

02:50:06.880 compressed biological matter from the earth or as the deep hot biosphere theory dictates

02:50:13.380 it's excreted through processes we don't really understand somewhere in the earth's mantle and

02:50:19.840 it's just a thing that the earth does and so there's quite a few people that believe that or

02:50:24.920 the foundation of that theory is that we don't really know where it comes from and even within

02:50:30.640 this documentary to give some credence to that michael rupert he was saying that well we don't

02:50:36.400 know how much oil is out there but we have to assume we found all of it you know there's this

02:50:41.380 comedy makes early on that we found all of the largest oil fields in the world right and this

02:50:46.800 was at the time and then i think just last week china said it discovered some hundred million

02:50:52.740 barrel oil patch somewhere in the china sea so it's like this idea that there's no more oil to

02:50:59.020 be discovered is just factually incorrect right but i would i would say one one comment and it's

02:51:06.340 kind of extraneous because it it reminded me a bit of um recently on tucker uh he interviewed

02:51:11.720 our good friend andrew risker but notice how this documentary is a very much a product of the time

02:51:18.000 like g watt was still in full force where people were starting to forget about it during the obama

02:51:23.000 years because now no they weren't well i'm sorry i have to say i'm sorry i have to interrupt no

02:51:29.240 they were not the war was the war was the central like ending the wars and closing gitmo were a big

02:51:37.440 part of barack obama's campaign and then what comes right around in 2009 the troop surge and

02:51:43.440 who is sucking barack obama's dick it's not mike it's lindsey graham the war was in everyone's

02:51:50.060 minds no but it was everyone's mind for a different reason it wasn't about a crusade about

02:51:53.960 civilization no it wasn't it wasn't about revenge it wasn't about 9-11 anymore at that point it was

02:51:58.600 about nebulous reasons and if you want a good article about that i'd really recommend reading

02:52:02.740 um data-driven defeat from the american affairs journal it came out a couple years ago

02:52:07.500 so yeah i misspoke what i meant was that it was a different purpose but i think this

02:52:14.940 documentary is a product of its time in the sense that there was still a sense of like okay

02:52:19.420 The reason we're fighting wars in the Middle East is because there is going to be this glut of oil, all the glow in the darks realize that peak oil is a thing, and that basically a unified Western civilization has to eat up all of the resources before the Chinese or whoever gets it.

02:52:34.120 But nowadays we don't have that narrative because I think there's a deep fragmentation among people on the left and right of our civilizational picture.

02:52:43.020 And so, for example, we all know, like, without getting too, you know, into the weeds in a particular group of people, like, we know that there's obviously a lot of ideological and religious driven reasons for these wars in the Middle East because of one particular nation in the Middle East, right?

02:53:01.360 and so i remember there was there's this a number of these antifa freaks one i'm not going to name

02:53:08.240 the guy that go after andrew risker and go after his podcast with jay engel where they're like okay

02:53:14.940 so the the political right in america either they're like rabid zionists that like want to

02:53:21.660 let israel basically bomb children but when andrew risker talks out against dispensationalism

02:53:28.280 and a lot of the like american protestant theology because he himself is a pastor

02:53:33.160 when he speaks out against it he's being an anti-semite so it's like when the right critiques

02:53:40.060 these expansionistic wars in the middle east to serve israeli security interests and the sort of

02:53:45.800 theology that's been driving american protestantism to view uh design this project with

02:53:51.740 such reverence they're anti-semites but when you have like the ben shapiro types they're also like

02:53:56.800 evil fascists because they're ardently interested in the like ethno-nationalism of these people

02:54:02.700 so it's like you can't win with the political left either like they they hound uh isker and

02:54:08.920 other people that are breaking from the ranks but it all goes back to our sort of like foundational

02:54:14.820 the world that was created even before the global war on terror the sort of like foundation of like

02:54:21.620 why we were so heavily engaged and still to this day engaged in the middle east although it's less

02:54:26.380 so because we have a war in eastern europe and we have you know maybe in the future um china may

02:54:33.500 come down the pipe but you never know because now i'm hearing stirrings of uh israel trying to bomb

02:54:38.060 around again so it's like it never ends right but it's very funny how the political left who was

02:54:44.140 sympathetic to these type of ideas in terms of like anti-globalization peak oil getting out of

02:54:49.660 the middle east now it's like okay during obama and even nowadays like after the 2010s it's like

02:54:56.260 okay we have to fight it for a different reason now it's no longer about oil no now it's no longer

02:55:01.460 about um you know israeli security interests now it's about like i don't know combating global

02:55:07.080 extremism which usually means like right-wing chuds and it's like it's a very funny thing how

02:55:13.500 it's like they want to suck and blow at the same time it's like you can't critique israel

02:55:18.880 because you're anti-semite or or like you know you are a zionist so it's like that's also you're

02:55:25.020 committing genocide and your white settler colonialism it's like you can never these

02:55:28.540 people are never be happy with the what's funny is that when it comes to uh america's presence

02:55:33.540 in the middle east they've actually tried every single narrative and they've dropped every single

02:55:38.780 narrative the only one that's left is israel that makes any sense because if you're old enough and

02:55:44.420 you've been through this ringer they've tried out they're misogynistic over there they're

02:55:49.760 democratic do you want the old you want the old ancient giga chat are you ready you ready yes

02:55:56.120 islamo-fascism yeah exactly that was it and then they tried out you know they hate us for our

02:56:03.060 freedom they but barack obama was really the big one too and this is one of those things that glenn

02:56:07.220 greenwald got famous for he was pointing out like oh yeah there was this memo that came around like

02:56:11.840 2011 where obama was like afghanistan we got to focus on women's issues and i mean this was even

02:56:18.180 before even before him like you know three cups of tea and true to their form the only people still

02:56:22.840 using that are conservatives um you know the one the other one they had tried out at the time

02:56:29.600 was if you were cool if you were young and cool it was the oil argument because that was sort of

02:56:35.400 a bipartisan one that the hip leftists and the hip far-right guys they're like the cynical

02:56:41.140 conspiratorial theory was that you know what's all fucking about oil and the only guy at the time

02:56:47.240 that had the correct assessment and at least to my mind was patrice o'neill on the show tough crowd

02:56:54.660 which was a comedy central show and he had just said this was during the iraq war

02:56:58.940 he was out there saying america just needs to be a gangster for a while they were they were hit and

02:57:05.180 they were embarrassed and so we need to get ugly that's also what dick cheney said by the way and

02:57:09.480 he was right and whether or not you think that was you know permissible but that was what they

02:57:14.580 were doing and that's what they're right also with the whole you know israel thing but it's like

02:57:18.340 this is what you do when you're attacked on i let me just spaz out so no one fucks with you again

02:57:23.700 and that that really is just the neo-realism position and you know said from an obese black

02:57:30.200 comedian of all people but there was something that meanwhile the the crack addict skinny black

02:57:35.460 comedian was doing the same thing on his tv show he's like well you and what army oh that's right

02:57:40.180 as black bush um i mean uh but i think that's sort of the important thing to consider out of

02:57:47.060 all this is that you're you're going back in time and even while 2009 seems not that long ago it

02:57:53.120 sure as shit was um because that was 16 years ago and you know we had this idea that this uh you

02:58:00.240 know this post-racial moment in america had been achieved it did not uh we were going to end the

02:58:05.200 wars and close gitmo none of that happened and that somehow we were going to get meaningful

02:58:09.700 change well we did get meaningful change we watched the left become uh more capitalistic

02:58:16.680 in a lot of ways than its right-wing counterparts and that way i think the left are better

02:58:20.460 capitalists than the right ever will be uh well i mean like just look at your masses now like

02:58:25.720 you've managed to consumerize and commodify all leftist causes and you created the greatest

02:58:32.600 ideological framework for it which came out of the barack obama era where it started getting

02:58:36.440 implemented. I mean, yes, DEI is first put into policy technically under George W. Bush, I think

02:58:41.180 in 2007 or 2008. But I mean, it really goes full strength under Barack Obama for obvious reasons,

02:58:45.880 race grifting and everything. And what do you get out of that? Well, we watch everything come

02:58:50.420 together under the banner of like intersectionality, DEI, ESG, and the rest. And Obama's

02:58:56.800 giving you my favorite kind of trick in the book, which is the well-spoken black man, i.e.

02:59:06.160 the really well nicely done minstrel marionette because Barack Obama did not have a teleprompter

02:59:12.400 by God that man could not talk to save his life out of a paper bag he'd hyperventilate and die

02:59:16.700 and so I'm listening to Rupert argue in the way that you only hear white boomers talk about things

02:59:23.760 and with alarmism that in his lifetime would be commodified and sold back to the masses

02:59:32.660 as consumer activism you know like the the old marxist talking point you hear from a lot of

02:59:39.920 tankies there is no ethical consumption under capitalism well if you still believe that then

02:59:44.780 like the devil's greatest trick is convincing you that there is and if i were like michael

02:59:49.280 like rupert and i'm looking at where the left is going or i'm just looking at where the world is

02:59:53.860 going and like these great existential issues climate change uh drugs the global economy

03:00:01.540 things are getting crazy these days yeah i think wow you know all this is kind of crazy you know

03:00:07.480 look at the weather and for him he's just like um oh wow all these issues have just been turned

03:00:12.840 into marketable baubles and consumer identities where none of these issues are ever going to get

03:00:17.040 solved that's a huge black pill yeah and he gets and he gets emotionally cries in this in this thing

03:00:22.780 not just because of like all the shit he's been through i imagine he's been through a hell of a

03:00:26.660 lot i'm not going to speak ill of the man he saw how the sausage was made basically but like he saw

03:00:30.720 the sausage was made he was on the inside he was a cop for like a couple of decades like

03:00:34.640 i would be ready to just say yeah it's done i hope someone listens to me and that's really

03:00:41.560 the cry for this whole documentary is that listen um not everyone's going to be saved

03:00:46.440 if you are capable if let those who have eyes let them see and let those who can hear let them hear

03:00:51.680 uh he does that thing he doesn't call himself a messiah but he's just like listen i can see the

03:00:57.020 writing on the wall please do something about it um and the only people who seem to have picked up

03:01:01.820 the writing on the wall are internet schizophrenics and shit posters the fascists and fascists online

03:01:08.760 some tankies i'll give some tankies credit um and so it's like oh uh the only ones who heard you

03:01:15.080 are people who are either too young and too poor to understand how bad it is or those who do know

03:01:20.200 how bad it is but feel like they can't do anything or they don't care and then you kind of find

03:01:24.460 yourself just sort of fiddling on the uh on the titanic to borrow one of his yeah if michael

03:01:30.940 rupert were around now he would be on twitter being denounced as a decelerationist and yes

03:01:36.100 he's an he's an op right because uh he was not echoing but he was he would he would he would be

03:01:42.560 quoted by mark andriason calling him a loser yeah yeah he would be a griper also as well i feel like

03:01:48.740 you'd be anti-trump you understand that a lot of what he's saying is true and what he was talking

03:01:54.060 but for the good chunk of the first half was that and this is what really stuck with me by the

03:01:58.760 documentary is that how much of our society or civilization is reliant on oil and he goes into

03:02:05.540 it's not it doesn't just power your cars you know there's so many gallons of oil per tire everything's

03:02:11.620 running on everything's made of oil everything incorporates oil in some way and there's this show

03:02:16.780 that's out just now starring billy bob thornton called land man it is not a terribly good show

03:02:22.560 it's another taylor sheridan project but it stars billy o'thorn in midland texas it's about

03:02:28.740 the oil industry in texas trying to tell sort of a crime drama there but he has one of fucking

03:02:35.260 many monologues in the show where he talks about the scale of the oil industry saying that you know

03:02:40.800 oil is like one of the top three industries in america and every industry around it is reliant

03:02:47.180 on oil so it feeds every single industry in america and globally it's just this huge lumbering

03:02:55.560 machine that no one can even dream of taking down and it's not portrayed as a villain in that show

03:03:03.580 it's just a fact of life and that really was what he's trying to get at in this is like you have no

03:03:07.840 idea how essential oil is to everything in this civilization so if it were let's not even say

03:03:15.900 peak oil occurs let's say there's some sort of disruption that occurs $300 a barrel yeah then

03:03:21.880 everything suffers everything starts to fall apart everything gets worse and that is true

03:03:25.820 and i think if there is one message to take away from that it's to get you thinking about it on

03:03:31.320 those terms have you ever watched the film hell or high water boys i just saw that like last week

03:03:37.200 that's great i think it's still available on tubi but hell or high water there was this one scene

03:03:41.960 because okay there was two scenes one was when um him and uh when when uh jeff bridges and his

03:03:49.560 half mexican half native american deputy sheriff were talking about how his people's lands were

03:03:56.740 taken over and destroyed he goes now the bank he looks to the bank the middle of bank he's like now

03:04:01.280 those people are taking your ancestors land but there was another scene where they were driving

03:04:07.720 through midland texas and there was a forest fire there was a sorry a brush fire and there was a

03:04:14.500 number of ranchers that had a vast uh cattle yeah that was taylor sheridan acting in that scene

03:04:21.120 yeah yeah a vast array of cattle that they were moving out of this uh fire zone and he goes and

03:04:26.800 the cattle rancher goes with a bunch of his boys and they all have shotguns in the back of their

03:04:30.760 back of their steers and everything he goes no wonder my kid doesn't want to do this shit

03:04:35.600 you know and and then so um the deputy sheriff goes can't we call this in like they need help

03:04:41.000 he goes no these boys they're on their own out here and there is like a storm coming and there's

03:04:46.520 the fire in the distance in other words that was a metaphor for the precariousness of living in

03:04:53.380 those conditions but also because this film was after 2008 the precarity of the average person

03:05:00.000 in these places like in midland texas or like everywhere in the rust belt where you're literally

03:05:05.400 on your own imagine that you're a cattle rancher there's a forest fire coming there's nobody coming

03:05:10.640 to save you you're on your own so it's like i remember seeing that that was such a powerful

03:05:16.020 scene it made me want to cry because there's a good couple of i'm not sure i liked the plot

03:05:21.060 even but peppered in taylor sheridan does this a lot in his films where well he's stealing from

03:05:25.500 the bankers and all that crap well also like this is basically taylor sheridan's version of no

03:05:29.200 country for old men like i cannot stop comparing them to each other that and it's also uh because

03:05:34.600 of how it's set and it's talking about the bank and everything it's also killing them it's also

03:05:38.140 killing them softly jeff bridges as sort of the cop stuck out of time cowboy movie yeah yeah and

03:05:45.260 there's a lot of these like interesting scenes that actually don't progress the plot but those

03:05:50.340 are the ones i like the most yeah um like that one where they're in the diner with the old woman

03:05:54.920 what don't you want like that i'm not going to recite the fucking movie but i don't know i'm

03:05:59.620 trying to figure out if it's a good movie i'm not sure if it is i like it but i'm like i don't know

03:06:05.340 there's something incomplete it does have like a leftist resentment against bankers it's true but

03:06:10.080 like there is something powerful about it like i like that one scene in particular with the ranchers

03:06:15.580 it is sort of like a metaphor for the the way that like global financialization essentially

03:06:21.780 fucked over the american middle class and the fact that generationally you have this

03:06:27.140 in america in the american frontier context it's like really the sacred pursuit of cattle ranching

03:06:33.340 that was there from the beginning of the american frontier now it's like that whole industry is

03:06:38.760 broken the fact that they're on their own and it's like these the boys that are stealing uh

03:06:44.100 they're like modern cowboys because their mother got fucked over by a banker in 2008 it's like

03:06:50.420 not to say i condone like what the the one what's the guy's brother he was in breaking bad

03:06:54.700 what's his name evans something um he has a shootout with the police yeah oh yeah i know

03:07:03.960 i know who you're talking about yeah yeah yeah the crazy brother yeah so like he has a shootout

03:07:08.620 with the police like not that i condone that but like there is a very interesting story there in

03:07:12.340 terms of the mid-2000s and the way that the world was shaping up that i think ties into this

03:07:18.000 um movie as well when it comes to not just resource scarcity but also the very deep social

03:07:25.180 impact of this disruption of people's traditions and livelihoods while they're doing it you want

03:07:30.900 to know another perfect movie if you want to like a early to mid 2000s block of films

03:07:37.060 also throw on killing them softly yeah that's a great one yeah this guy wants to fix america

03:07:44.100 don't make me laugh america's a business but everyone remembers that scene but every entire

03:07:49.160 movie like i forgot about how good that movie was but that movie's great and you're like this is

03:07:54.080 this is one of the best movies i've ever seen and no one has seen it it's so when james gandalfini

03:07:58.580 is talking about like when a fresh jewish hooker comes on the pipe he can't stop himself can he

03:08:04.500 really can't look at this credible theory geo is the blood this is the best compliment i've ever

03:08:11.500 received besides one that zero hp lovecraft when he said that i'm the catholic version of um of uh

03:08:18.460 penn and teller of penn gillette because uh patrice is the black geo

03:08:25.120 i'm the italian patrice that's amazing that's one of the greatest compliments i've ever gotten

03:08:33.000 griping them softly bill wilson griping them softly you're not even throwing them up on the

03:08:39.220 screen what are you doing just trying to get through the night i haven't watched killing

03:08:44.380 them softly a long time though it's like yeah i watch it just i don't know like i'm just in the

03:08:50.280 mood for that sort of like small town grimy texas sort of i'll watch everything from there just like

03:08:56.100 anything set in louisiana i just dig it one of my favorite films ever wasn't in texas it was in

03:09:01.480 california this was like peak early 2000s have you ever watched um this john favreau film where

03:09:07.880 it's about alien abductions but it's like this like gritty noir film in this like trashy hotel

03:09:13.780 room oh no what is that that sounds like i want to see that immediately what is that

03:09:18.940 it's called um something like the big let me let me look it up let me look it up um

03:09:25.320 it's called this is from 2004 the 2003 the big empty the big empty that's a yeah so i put up

03:09:33.360 john favreau aliens that just came up with cowboys and aliens i'm like that can't be it

03:09:37.160 that isn't it it's called the big empty it's incredible film really okay i'm gonna you you

03:09:43.760 sold me just with that description alone yeah it's about it's also about it's it's very much

03:09:48.740 like a like a rawly in like early 2000s conspiracy intersecting with the ufology thing but like it's

03:09:56.200 essentially starts off as a very absurdist noir of him being like it is self-referential as a

03:10:01.180 hollywood film like he's basically a failed actor that he's like given this mission by some random

03:10:06.160 guy and that's such an early 2000s cover too i'm looking at the image for this wow it's incredible

03:10:12.500 maybe we should review it times we should do this absolutely i'm down because i haven't seen this

03:10:17.240 one i really want to i think it's still on tubi um i remember watching with my mother mother is

03:10:23.020 like this is fucking boring geo just seething on the couch mom this is kino that was like the one

03:10:32.640 film me and period reviewed i actually watched that with my mother the one what was it called

03:10:36.180 uh not at the end of the world um the end of all things is that the post-apocalyptic one we watched

03:10:43.640 yeah yeah yeah she said it was boring as shit and i'm like it kind of was it's a great concept

03:10:49.580 that was stretched out for an hour and a half like that should have been a short film or a short

03:10:55.540 story but instead it's like a student film that um this is how you know you've got a good woman

03:11:02.360 to marry when you marry find yourself a woman that just cannot watch movies because they'll

03:11:07.600 make great moms that's like well my gf hasn't watched a lot of movies so sometimes i like

03:11:12.720 subject her to art house films and so like she like knows that i'm really like a huge vincent

03:11:19.000 gallo fan so like we've watched almost like every vincent gallo film and then i remember we were

03:11:24.040 watching johnny 316 and she's like well i think it's all right i like it because you like it but

03:11:29.540 i'm like i could like literally write like a 10 000 word essay on this film and she's like i know

03:11:33.740 you can i know you can g you want to know the first movie that i took mrs dimes to on her first

03:11:40.040 day wall street 2 money never sleeps you want to know the second movie that we watched together

03:11:49.260 harmony koreen's trash humpers whoa trash humpers it's the only movie she very politely but sternly

03:11:58.860 asked me to turn off and this was early in the relationship when women are really trying to get

03:12:03.780 into what their guys are into like just trying to like and that was just a hard hard no hard no

03:12:09.980 i don't know i'm a fucking sociopath why looking back now what the fuck was i doing what are you

03:12:15.480 doing it's like might as well make your gf watch gummo i watched that one later i'm like no you

03:12:20.900 don't get it this is like mainstream curry no actually my gf actually did watch gummo back in

03:12:27.000 the day she's like um i fucking hated gummo i'm like she's like it's a terrible film i go listen

03:12:31.980 gummo is not a good film it's a great film she just like rolls her eyes um geomakies gf watch

03:12:38.300 italian giallo films as their first film experience there was this one amazing giallo film i saw in

03:12:44.420 tubi it's called the burial ground it's got everything it's like horny 70s italian it's

03:12:52.360 got zombies for no reason it's got hot young people getting slaughtered it's got like illusions

03:12:58.880 to incest it's everything everything look at him he's loving it yeah i'm gonna review that film

03:13:03.780 the burial ground it's incredible um the more you said horny in italian i'm like oh no

03:13:09.020 oh man please bury me yeah we have you guys have you guys ever watched shallow

03:13:17.340 yes yeah yeah a long time ago i think that's like a young man's movie to watch i don't know

03:13:23.420 if i could watch a film for sensitive young men um no but it's for the man who wants to

03:13:32.120 take everyone with him there's sallow but no but to get back to collapse i think that yeah

03:13:39.560 it really is a product of its time but but at the same time i i can't help but think that

03:13:45.420 he was correct about a lot of things but like you were saying prude it basically is like

03:13:49.440 the purview of the political right like maybe it's just that we're not in a lot of like

03:13:53.720 contemporary leftist spaces but apart from like just observing them on blue sky or whatever

03:13:58.580 like you the problem is is that a lot of contemporary leftist spaces and i think that

03:14:05.020 anyone who's not in them and there are some like genuine lefties that i do follow on youtube and

03:14:11.940 whatever like there's some like hardcore what you would call i guess like little o orthodox

03:14:15.860 marxists and then some other guys that are really into uh media theory and just like psychological

03:14:22.780 stuff so like there's there's like really just like parapolitics but like the academic kind of

03:14:28.920 parapolitics they're like oh well these people influence this they're much more interested in

03:14:32.300 the private sector they're much more into the californian ideology stuff then you have like

03:14:36.520 the little o orthodox kind of um uh marxists like there's this uh he would laugh his ass off it's

03:14:44.160 not like he pays attention to us but like the midwestern marx guy which i always find really

03:14:47.680 funny to me when i see him because it's like oh this is a white guy he's definitely marxist theory

03:14:51.780 and what's going on in the world and i'm just like dude you are a man out of time and i kind

03:14:56.600 of appreciate him for that well i have a question prudent you know correct me if i'm wrong but when

03:15:01.220 When I peer over the fence into what these leftists and even Marxists are

03:15:05.940 talking about,

03:15:06.500 I don't detect much of a concern for environmentalism,

03:15:10.740 not even climate change these days.

03:15:13.480 I think that scene is more like a neoliberal position.

03:15:16.300 What's they have?

03:15:16.940 No,

03:15:17.120 no,

03:15:17.280 it is.

03:15:17.600 It's really like climate change or climatology or whatever kind of gets

03:15:20.340 turned into like,

03:15:21.040 Oh,

03:15:21.160 well,

03:15:21.260 it's just a neoliberal position to make cover for capital.

03:15:24.240 And it's like,

03:15:24.980 Oh,

03:15:25.140 if they,

03:15:25.500 if they can signal that they're good,

03:15:26.860 then like,

03:15:27.220 there's no actual regulatory investigation into them,

03:15:30.100 which they have,

03:15:30.900 they,

03:15:31.220 also have this like very similar naive belief that boomer cons do that like if the institutions

03:15:37.300 were just captured by our guys things would be better or if we just got the right person in

03:15:42.140 like there's there's this bernie populist uh sort of naivete to them but then like you meet some

03:15:48.120 really black-pilled leftists that are borderline preppers and they're just like listen um it's

03:15:54.120 over for me and my gay son and we're prepping and we're trying to survive and they're prepping

03:15:58.520 in more ways than one and it's uh it's interesting to peer over the fence sometime in more ways than

03:16:03.440 one thank you for catching that um but like when i look over the uh look over the garden wall so

03:16:09.000 to speak and i look at my neighbor's disheveled mess of a home of their political camp like so

03:16:14.380 many of them are just like and i think a lot of it has to do with just the fact that millennials

03:16:18.420 are getting older and that um yeah that the younger people and scott greer was talking about

03:16:24.120 this uh on his show yesterday was that like um it really is it is a millennially driven movement

03:16:30.460 like yeah there are zoomers that are progressives but it's it's very it's female it's it's like

03:16:35.100 white liberal females and brown liberal females that are pushing for it a lot mainly for like

03:16:40.160 the new generation they're all doubling down on the sort of woke sjw stuff that we kind of grew

03:16:45.260 up like becoming inoculated against whereas um you know why is there all this big hullabaloo

03:16:50.820 against like andrew tate and the rest of them i mean there's a lot of reasons to not like andrew

03:16:53.760 tate but like the whole grind set you know john steinbeck we're all temporarily embarrassed

03:16:58.600 millionaires thing has really kind of pushed a different cultural view because even like on the

03:17:04.600 left even like like progressive zoomer women are so far off the reservation to like even like your

03:17:10.760 average black guys politics that like yeah i'm more into andrew tate and fresh and fit and myron

03:17:15.960 gains and the rest of it you're like well why and it's just like because like well you looked at

03:17:19.540 these bitches they're crazy and it's just like okay well that's where politics is now because

03:17:23.340 we've gotten so civilizationally dysfunctional this is what constitutes mainstream political

03:17:27.620 discourse whereas you go back to a semblance of a wider and a more kind of socially agreed upon

03:17:34.660 political standards of an Overton window um you know what were the issues that like people were

03:17:39.540 pushing like I you know Howard like I just think about like Howard Dean or I think about Michael

03:17:44.680 Rupert here and like you're pushing issues that genuinely kind of do matter and the problem is is

03:17:49.540 that um just like some of the issues that you all three of us care about whether it's like

03:17:54.660 immigration or foreign influence or deportations we're also kind of still far enough outside of

03:18:00.920 any lever of power that we're kind of just screaming like Howard Dean and it's just like

03:18:05.540 oh yeah right Michael Ruppert is is a relic from a time where you can discuss serious issues in a

03:18:12.980 measured serious sense whereas if you were to discuss environmentalism now you're just going

03:18:18.160 to have some fat bitch saying like at least i don't need to get into barson when i fuck a tree

03:18:23.040 saying that you're subversive that you're like not getting it man well also but also keep in

03:18:32.900 mind that like like this is a documentary this goes on for an hour and 20 minutes and it's pretty

03:18:37.980 good and i would recommend that you watch it and i'll put the link in the description in the pinned

03:18:41.440 comment when we're done with the stream but like the thing about it too is is that this was a time

03:18:45.700 when documentaries and long form essays essays are still the essays are still a thing now because

03:18:52.060 i mean uh the reading the people who still like pay attention to this side of things they read

03:18:57.020 they don't really i mean tweets are great but um substacks are a thing like if you're followed by

03:19:02.380 i don't know like ns lions and the upheaval like that's like you know substack royalty um like

03:19:07.960 morgoth and i will share like screenshots when he likes um and i mean like so there's there's

03:19:13.320 there's room for it nowadays like on twitter or even like internet blood sport culture from just

03:19:17.700 like 10 years ago none of this shit gets talked about and what's even more depressing right this

03:19:21.680 is that um sometimes the worst people you know will bring up a very good point case in point

03:19:28.100 what happened a couple of years ago geo what happened to a certain person who was bringing

03:19:31.280 up regenerative agriculture rizoma school rizoma school and what happened to her she got

03:19:37.580 not just by gripers but i mean like by fucking everybody because they're like why is this woman

03:19:42.340 getting published in the american mind hosted by the claremont review and it's just like well

03:19:47.440 that's a great question we're going through all her tweets and turns out she was a bernie supporter

03:19:50.860 a lockdown supporter a big black lives matter supporter why the heck is she you know getting

03:19:54.920 on there when there are like other commentators on the right that have been talking about the

03:19:57.900 same issues there was a great twitter space there's a whole great it was a great it was

03:20:02.700 glorious it was wonderful you had to have been there it wasn't someone said they allegedly

03:20:06.220 recorded it but like i hope someone comes out with it like there's a recording oh man i want

03:20:11.240 there's a recording it's delightful um it was a great time you had to be there so but i mean like

03:20:16.160 again like that the the time in place for you to sit down and talk about serious issues like even

03:20:21.180 monsanto like no one talks about that anymore it felt like such a blast from the past to listen to

03:20:27.140 someone talking about like franken seeds monsanto glyphosate and to talk about how we need to have

03:20:33.280 our own seeds our own farms and it was really interesting to also hear him talk about the

03:20:37.600 agricultural um the agricultural sectors in north korea and cuba after the soviet union collapsed

03:20:43.820 and he was using cuba as a model and i was really reminded of what rye nationalist does in his in

03:20:50.180 one of his books i think it's or the book he put out option either eggs benedict option where he

03:20:55.120 talks about russian uh backyard and communal farming and he says that like this is a really

03:20:59.900 good thing that americans should be doing to grow food at home and it doesn't take a lot of space

03:21:04.020 And you should do these kinds of things. And again, you see that K line of the, you know, these major civilizational issues, oil, how industrial grade farming actually reduces our, our air ability and our arable land and how it's bad for animals, biodiversity of plant life, the amount of hormones we put into our food, all these issues have been adopted by either crunchy liberals that are either super boomer or they're like super white.

03:21:32.180 and then you have like you know reactionary fascist adjacent right-wingers and they're all

03:21:37.280 repeat people or repeat people and like repeat is the most famous stalinist i know outside of

03:21:42.800 stalin it's also a generational thing because this is what they used to mock millennials for

03:21:47.620 or the prototypical the prototype history yeah like what was the hipster the hipster was

03:21:53.220 a young person who biked everywhere as there's nothing wrong with bikes by the way i don't

03:21:58.280 then they go to farmer's markets and they shop organic like if you actually tally up all the

03:22:05.580 stuff that this generation and maybe even yeah it's very millennial thing like the the farmer's

03:22:09.980 market has two types like the crunchy liberal progressive millennial or like the alt-right

03:22:14.660 fascist like there was no there's no in between and if you still go to a farmer's market today

03:22:20.120 you're still going to see those yeah yeah like like leftists will sort of gesture towards this

03:22:24.960 thing they believe to be climate change because they think that's a mark against capitalism but

03:22:30.000 the only people i know who actually give a shit about trees and old growth forests and real

03:22:36.420 sustainability tend to be far-right radicals and just this generation which we've kind of normalized

03:22:43.540 it like we understand you don't need to explain to most young people that industrial farming is bad

03:22:49.840 but we just we kind of put it out of our minds there was an era especially the early 2000s where

03:22:54.820 we were talking a lot about industrial farming

03:22:56.900 and industrial food production

03:22:58.580 and everything that the chickens and the hogs are going through

03:23:00.820 and then we said it's terrible

03:23:02.180 and we kind of tried to change our buying habits

03:23:04.680 but it didn't really change

03:23:06.480 just like a lot of the oil issue

03:23:08.560 who the fuck is talking about oil anymore

03:23:10.580 nobody

03:23:11.020 us

03:23:12.520 look at these comments

03:23:16.180 I'm a traditional neighborhood development kind of guy

03:23:24.620 trish the neighborhood development environmentalist wearing my george lincoln rockwell outfit to the

03:23:29.780 farmer's market groper oh god um no but do you guys want a nuclear black pill because this really

03:23:37.360 does i think unite like schizos on the far left and far right when it comes to specifically like

03:23:44.240 and listen i'm not buying all this again like i want to like i said last week on the show

03:23:49.660 like i have to realize that i i don't want to be like totally critical of trump i don't want to be

03:23:55.700 like resentment filled because i'm at leaf or whatever but there is definitely like something

03:24:00.000 there so i saw this comment the other day under a michael mcfall tweet and by the way michael

03:24:06.360 mcfall is a hideous ghoul that wants to glass the former ambassador to russia under the obama

03:24:12.240 administration as well as biden no no just obama yeah yeah and he was the one i believe helped

03:24:17.920 concoct my don if i recall um and he wants to glass moscow and you know you know so here he says

03:24:24.540 why does vance loathe europeans so much i honestly don't understand it explanations now i'm not going

03:24:29.900 to defend vance because he basically does have this thing against europeans and canadians i'm

03:24:34.980 not you know but i i will say that there is a valid critique of the ruling class of a lot of

03:24:40.060 these european nations in the eu but i think it does go back to like this sort of like american

03:24:45.440 anti-european type of like stuff with the freedom fries and all that especially that

03:24:49.960 have been harbored under g watt with the republican party but the reason i bring this

03:24:54.420 up because there's this comment okay this guy uh what's that mama says some bullshit

03:24:59.680 some fucking irony leftist i'm sorry i shouldn't swear i want to fuck up this

03:25:04.060 i don't want to screw up your stream you know because geo i don't think you can apologize

03:25:08.360 for anything you say after the first like 30 minutes of the show we're fine please get to

03:25:12.900 please get to your point so he says if your goal but notice how this is an appropriation of right

03:25:20.420 wing conspiracy talking points about the new world order if your goal per order from feel

03:25:25.740 is to or teal however you pronounce it is to destroy centralized government that can push

03:25:30.920 back on a new world order that allows oligarchs free reign without regulations slash taxation of

03:25:36.100 the extreme wealth attacking slash destroying the eu is exactly what you want to do is this

03:25:41.900 is happening in plain sight and people are focusing on cheap shiny objects this is minus

03:25:47.660 defending and jannying for the eu because of course he would say it's a vector of the new

03:25:52.080 world order this is almost like what something alex jones would say in 2009 2012 you know what

03:25:58.360 i mean like there was this video i saw recently do you know this channel on youtube called europos

03:26:03.240 i believe he follows me on twitter he's a great channel by the way not to say i endorse everything

03:26:08.000 because whatever but he had this great video about the connections between um like trump and

03:26:14.940 teal and palantir and how there's like sort of this restructuring of a model of global global

03:26:21.360 governance that i think not to like go totally with the leftist line because they're delusional

03:26:26.400 but there is definitely something to be said of like through doge and other things essentially

03:26:32.760 like letting silicon valley hyenas control the government yeah yeah people understand how

03:26:38.980 terribly dangerous this is yeah and this this is the part and perhaps we were not black-pilled

03:26:46.500 enough when discussing this issue and we had sean went sean wyland on a couple of months ago

03:26:51.720 when he talked about like this idea of the agenda being a leveraged buyout of the united states

03:26:58.600 that's not a good thing by the way it's not a good thing um at all and i'm incredibly skeptical

03:27:04.360 of these silicon valley fucks i think to some extent that like sam altman and that kind of co

03:27:08.900 are the this generation's equivalent or this generation's antichrist but like i know that

03:27:14.420 when you say that people get all like ah you know like oh this guy's a skit so this guy's

03:27:17.640 donnie darken no no no no no no i'm simply pointing out that these people are evil and

03:27:21.760 they want to do whatever that they can yeah and i've done you don't have to be a marxist or

03:27:25.700 anything to go read what barnbrook and them put out with the californian ideology in 95 to be like

03:27:30.100 oh a lot of this is still happening they're so pro-immigration they want their golem they want

03:27:35.180 their agi and they only run to the government after proclaiming this sort of like laissez-faire

03:27:40.320 libertarianism when they realize that they're getting out competed or outbid by a foreign power

03:27:45.180 they want the right type of immigration quote-unquote yeah that's the right time they want

03:27:48.840 their slaves they people and we discussed this with the california ideology thing group but

03:27:53.580 people really need to understand that they are not on your side they will never be on your side as

03:27:58.940 you understand your side to be i did a really a thorough i watched it that was good yeah oh yeah

03:28:04.700 on real secret coffee hours about what peter teal's religion actually is because he purports

03:28:08.700 to be a christian but if you actually listen to him in interviews he he uses christianity the same

03:28:14.600 way jordan peterson does in a lot of sense where they're taking some of the archetypes and some

03:28:19.580 of the elements of it but incorporating in the case of jordan pearson into sort of a psychological

03:28:24.340 rationalist project and as if it were just mythology as well yeah exactly but then with

03:28:30.900 the pure teal like when you hear him talk about it they're looking at it more like any sort of

03:28:35.520 mysticism like well it seems that this produces the best utilitarian results atheism did not

03:28:41.020 produce results so this is just a way for us to get leverage to get what we want and they're only

03:28:46.580 they're borrowing bits and pieces from christianity to kind of corrupt it for their own ends but you

03:28:51.020 have to understand that's what they do with fucking everything if you've ever think they've

03:28:54.800 said a base thing you are wrong if you've ever thought elon musk agrees with you you are fucking

03:29:01.880 wrong and this is such a meteor hurtling towards us that if you like fruit said if you bring it up

03:29:08.040 you're called a fucking schizo and alarmist or you're not trusting the maga plan that's another

03:29:12.360 I mean, the the the tectonic shift that occurred with Trump, with Silicon Valley, which was always a major political player, obviously, but stepping into the center stage of American politics with Musk, also with Zuckerberg, also with Bezos and all of them becoming very visible political players to the enthusiasm of seemingly most of the country.

03:29:36.100 i'm like you don't understand what you should be terrified you should be absolutely terrified and

03:29:42.440 any win you get is just to placate you now maybe there is some negotiation you can do with them but

03:29:48.040 make a mistake these are global these are entities with a global scope they don't have any loyalty

03:29:54.660 to you they actually i don't even necessarily think they want to get to mars but that should

03:30:00.240 concern you because then they want something else and they're using that as a veil to get it well

03:30:05.680 like i tweeted out dimes i said this guy this leftoid he loves the old version of the new world

03:30:12.840 order which is lgbt race communism and he hates the new version of the new the new manifestation

03:30:17.960 or framework ideological i said ideological framework of the new world order which is like

03:30:22.760 you know silicon valley tech libertarian dystopia it's like take your pick right now maybe with musk

03:30:29.300 like you're not going to get like the the foot on your throat as viciously in terms of you being

03:30:35.300 like a you know um you know european north american but what did you see prude i said do

03:30:41.960 you make this lie you know like yeah like the the the issues the yeah well musk wants to get to mars

03:30:48.560 and i'm like okay sure maybe he does he's also the world's like he's also a large defense contractor

03:30:52.680 with the united states government and he now is cutting and everywhere in there and in this very

03:30:57.500 similar way to what clinton was doing in there and it's like oh so kind of what you're getting

03:31:00.780 is newt gingrich era republicanism with 15 more nativist rhetoric but also like the gay race

03:31:05.980 communism stuff they're never going to abandon like gay marriage is never going to get reversed

03:31:09.240 or anything did they cut it did they cut off do they cut off kiev yet no no there you go that's

03:31:15.220 your limit yeah to me as a zigger that's my litmus test just to address some of the comments here

03:31:20.980 we got uh brastian sky warrior saying one elite's the same as any other elite i disagree you can

03:31:27.700 have better or worse elites these elites they're cunning they want to sell you on transhumanism

03:31:34.540 they want to sell you know they're trying to smuggle in race egalitarianism through a ascendant

03:31:40.760 racialism like they're far more conniving than any elites you've seen before and they are not

03:31:45.580 even pretending to be beholden to even the country that they're operating this is what the europos

03:31:50.520 video said by the way like that they're going to sneak in a lot of these egalitarian narratives

03:31:56.280 But also they're going to selectively abandon certain tenets of nationalism and patriotism to fulfill like a quote unquote efficiency.

03:32:04.840 And you saw that debate play out over Christmas Day last year over the H-1B visa thing.

03:32:10.780 I want America to win. America is a football team. America should get the best players in here.

03:32:16.480 That's that's a very think global attitude. And that's not really going away.

03:32:20.660 Also to a lot of people when they hear, you know, these guys will sometimes joke or speak very openly about using people as biofuel, right?

03:32:29.180 And a lot of people think that's a dog whistle and say, oh, the lesser races.

03:32:33.520 Like, no, no, no, no.

03:32:34.600 They mean white people.

03:32:35.580 Do they mean you, you stupid fuck?

03:32:37.820 Like what white stop auto completing what you think they're saying to be to your benefit.

03:32:43.620 You have no reason to be this optimistic about these types of people.

03:32:49.120 well that's what europo cited actually that there were these ai uh researchers that determined that

03:32:55.320 a lot of these um chat gpt or language learning models they actually predicated more worth

03:33:01.720 towards indians and chinese people than white people because they're more efficient because

03:33:06.240 that's their work force yeah yeah um oh look at this look at this comment by bill

03:33:11.240 all of a sudden is kiev a crater no nothing happens gop to v

03:33:16.920 he is asking for he's he's asking important questions

03:33:28.320 when is muscular going to genetically engineer real life cat girls that's my litmus test

03:33:32.820 no i mean maybe because i think it's rlh super fan that always retweets that alien cat girl

03:33:38.960 update gimmick account it's like have they been discovered yet no will they be discovered tune

03:33:43.400 in next time and i'm just like maybe this is the uniquely specific gimmick for you sir and i hope

03:33:48.060 that you get help but i mean like this is this is the thing is that all these issues that like

03:33:52.220 michael rupert's talking about it's just like well they kind of become these great rhetorical

03:33:56.620 ploys to push a different agenda that has nothing to do with the actual problems in the country

03:34:04.660 like okay we're it's good that immigration's a focus and that does need to be addressed but also

03:34:10.280 like um the greatest digital panopticon that you know who was that just recently bought out um

03:34:17.200 was it google that bought out the thing that came with like the israeli intelligence group

03:34:21.520 and so you have that you have chinese constantly stealing and selling state secrets and

03:34:27.000 intellectual property both back to the chinese and to the highest bidder and pat buchanan already

03:34:31.500 told us who the highest bidder usually is when it comes to our defense industry and then on top

03:34:35.420 of all this like the the issues about farming are never going to get addressed because we're

03:34:39.640 still debating it like it's 1998 and we're talking about farm bills like they're giant subsidies for

03:34:44.660 the walton corporation and it's not just the walton family but like anyone who owns a huge

03:34:50.160 trunk of um farmlander and with access to water what are they using it for a lot of it's mainly

03:34:55.400 for tack and so yeah t-boom pickens yeah you know and so like you have to ask yourself some like

03:35:00.760 really important questions here like why are these major existential civilizational questions not

03:35:06.760 being uh addressed like for instance we're focusing on natalism right now which i think is a good thing

03:35:12.320 to focus on because people aren't having children but it also means that um you know we're living in

03:35:17.420 a we're living in a cyberpunk dystopia and i think that it's it would make it would make neil

03:35:22.400 stevenson and william gibson blush so hard because you know they were spunky and they probably

03:35:29.100 considered themselves sort of like punk progressives when they wrote these books like no buddy this

03:35:32.920 this the saints this ain't snow crash uh this you're not on the net no we're not going to get

03:35:38.820 there's no tech samurais there's no tech samurais the only people who are cutting anything on the

03:35:44.760 net are troons and they're the coders of your favorite video games that you like to complain

03:35:49.460 about which is turn into a multi-million dollar industry of just bitching and oh by the way

03:35:53.560 mega corporations do actually run the world and that's really depressing yeah well yeah quarter

03:35:58.980 poundering bitching about disney that's your commentary remember remember uh the greatest

03:36:04.940 twitter like the greatest thing that twitter has done in terms of monetizing has been uh subsidizing

03:36:09.620 the third world you're saying no you're in a cyberpunk dystopia there's literally no good way

03:36:15.180 to make money no not a single way if you want to make an entertainment you need to be uh molested

03:36:21.340 a lot or

03:36:23.420 you need to just

03:36:25.360 discuss slop until you die

03:36:27.440 yeah

03:36:28.400 or you need to learn English as a second

03:36:31.500 language and have an anonymous

03:36:33.300 account and pose yourself

03:36:35.440 as the quote unquote inevitable west

03:36:37.600 and talk about how great and how

03:36:39.300 back we are as the west

03:36:40.920 and how awesome Donald Trump is and then

03:36:43.340 accidentally sell a shit coin featuring

03:36:45.640 a Hindu deity

03:36:46.280 here's a job for you if you want to make

03:36:49.540 money and content you need to hate one specific race and then never stop talking about them day

03:36:55.720 after day after day until you die doesn't that sound fun doesn't sound fun talking about a thing

03:37:01.200 you hate constantly that's the only way to make money well it's funny how diamonds or if you get

03:37:07.400 lucky you'll get propped up by a foreign power that wants to express an influence campaign and

03:37:13.040 you'll be brought all over the world to talk about a certain ideology and try and meld it with a

03:37:17.660 certain other ideology and then all of a sudden you're wearing a red maga hat but you're also

03:37:22.620 advocating for like hammer and sickle policies and then next thing you know you're talking in

03:37:27.000 yemen you realize thinking the other day i should be a hobo like i should just ride the fucking

03:37:32.660 rails i said hobo by the way people like stove hobo i just want to i just want to ride the

03:37:37.320 trains man i just want to get off this fucking ride some of the greatest hobo youtubers have

03:37:42.720 died recently like stove hobo died a shoestring hobo passed away unfortunately yeah i don't really

03:37:48.160 know much about the hobo lore who are these people they're youtubers that hobo they're like

03:37:53.160 train youtubers that like hop trains and stove hobo he actually went from like one end of canada

03:37:58.800 to the other and he was actually banned in canada because he did that he went from like vancouver

03:38:03.500 all the way to ontario um but yeah so like there's a bunch of hobo youtubers and shoestring hobo

03:38:09.800 he was an old guy he had a lot of health issues but i believe he also died by falling off a train

03:38:15.260 car tried died in a very hobo fashion yeah they all died in a hobo he died like he lived yeah

03:38:21.000 exactly um yeah well when people say elon musk is impregnating uh various uh also okay i really

03:38:29.020 speaking speaking of slop that's been turkey based on a my gosh forsaken timeline uh i really

03:38:35.260 do enjoy the fact that the world's richest man doesn't even know if he's the father but still

03:38:40.880 gave that bitch two million dollars and 500k a year uh as the arrangement for ashley sinclair

03:38:48.800 sex a laptop has become the ultimate femoid grifter and i honestly it's so transparent and

03:38:55.140 so nasty i almost respect it it's this must be the most electrifying era for horror world

03:39:02.600 because there has not been this much electricity and fire in the air since sodom and gomorrah

03:39:10.200 so imagine for a second you were just a dumb hoe and the news reverberating through the skank sphere

03:39:17.640 is that the richest man in the world is shopping around for literally any like a low-end five

03:39:25.400 will do and his idea of a good first date conversation is saying you know what i'm

03:39:31.700 really into it's a busting raw and then the and then paying for and then paying for child support

03:39:39.680 indefinitely and they say really kismet like this is the guy who who's like shopping and saying i'll

03:39:46.700 pay you to father my uh to you know give birth to my child and you'll get millions of dollars

03:39:52.560 forever that's really apparently he didn't even cream pie them it was all through ivf he didn't

03:39:58.480 even actually fuck her you know what he's a busy guy yeah he's a busy guy that just means he's

03:40:06.740 jacking off and every single fucking witch away someone's catching it tiffany fong you know

03:40:12.720 one of the most i remember i think it was sizzler on twitter that said if this was the conservative

03:40:21.380 like slash right wing movement on the internet i don't want to be a part of this shit do you know

03:40:26.240 that valentina gomez chick she had a photo the 25 year old hispanic that runs for office that's

03:40:33.420 already built like a fridge yeah like she had a tweet where she had added elon musk with a

03:40:39.620 pregnancy test saying i don't want two million dollars elon i just want to contribute to america

03:40:45.280 first by having your baby it's like if this is the jerry springer tier motherfucking e right i

03:40:53.460 don't want to be a part of this shit but everyone watching this is extreme pick me behavior guys

03:41:00.120 every single person watching this just do that i don't care if you're a guy do the pregnancy

03:41:04.740 testing like elon it's yours and just statistically you might get a payday yeah there there was one

03:41:11.320 thing i remember um my good friend my good friend annie slat said this where it's like these a lot

03:41:16.260 of these like e-girls like a lot of these like conservative grifter women they find a way to

03:41:20.880 post hole without posting hole online i remember that line that was so great that was so true

03:41:25.640 every every every revealed sundress trad e-whore on the timeline is just selling you porn for a

03:41:33.600 specific group of guys don't like giving whoring for maga uh i want that when she writes her tell

03:41:41.700 all book i want that to be it whoring for maga the laura loomer story they wonder why tutors

03:41:48.520 issuing bankrupt seats

03:41:50.580 because every fucking way I turn

03:41:52.820 it's just butt.

03:41:54.980 Didn't Laura Loomer try to do

03:41:56.860 her Monica Lewinsky bullshit?

03:41:59.480 I don't know.

03:42:02.500 How come she's not getting pregnant from Elon Musk?

03:42:04.280 I think she's younger than us.

03:42:06.360 Gio, what vampiric goss is this?

03:42:11.520 Laura Loomer's not that...

03:42:12.780 You know what Laura Loomer...

03:42:14.100 Hold on, what were you about to say?

03:42:16.080 Were you about to say Laura Loomer's not that bad?

03:42:17.500 okay this is deep geo lore okay i used to be a part of way back in 2015 uh shout out to my boys

03:42:24.660 we used to be part of this group chat called monarchist twitter monarchist twitter and and

03:42:28.980 i said one time and someone has a screen cap where i said that laura loomer she kind of reminds me of

03:42:34.960 like um what's her name the famous artist um that did the 10th thing what's i can't uh tracy even

03:42:41.020 john waters we're like you know tracy evens like a good looking ugly girl

03:42:47.440 like she's kind of like the best looking ugly girl you know what i mean like i'm not saying

03:42:52.740 that this is the lowest standard you have for a wood no i'm saying like laura loomer doesn't look

03:42:58.540 that bad she's kind of like the ugly girl that looks kind of hot you know what i mean in the

03:43:02.960 ugly girl way you know what i mean i i'm i i do i will not know what you mean i choose not to know

03:43:09.920 what you've seen younger trees type in young trees no i think i think i'm good geo i think

03:43:15.120 i want to leave this to my imagination instead because it's much safer here speaking of collapse

03:43:20.280 like yeah she i said this was in the group chat and monarchist twitter the guys were like

03:43:29.560 going nuts they were like going crazy like geo what the fuck do you mean this is never met a

03:43:35.680 wouldn't i love women i respect women i love women i love women here's this like five minute

03:43:45.680 tell all from 10 years ago where i was talking about this ugly chick i wanted to bang

03:43:49.720 yeah i love pretty good back i respect women so i love women here's a technicality

03:43:55.280 i respect women i love two blown out eastern europeans oh my god total geode

03:44:10.280 i'm with sean shaffer here oh man that's crazy oh my gosh but no but like this is why this is

03:44:19.120 why just this is why michael rupert probably decided to end it because he saw the future of

03:44:25.360 discourse and said i have no reason to be part of it cliff jaded nobody loves women as much as i do

03:44:30.900 no it's true it's true it's true no it's funny because i love women so much i don't want to

03:44:36.200 talk to them except for the one that's mine what what did i say what did i say that's like the

03:44:40.840 only right wing woman is your wife correct that's true no i'm gonna regret listening to the next

03:44:48.620 three minutes aren't i uh you know gio's been working on his stamina hit us with the digits

03:44:55.340 gio no but so like uh what did i say today for april fools on twitter that you said you hate

03:45:02.080 girls they said you hate e-girls or you hate e-girls yeah means i love it and then immediately

03:45:07.660 in a blind panic he said it's actually april fools he didn't want to let the sisters know

03:45:15.240 with it he was being real no because any slats he replied to me with this uh spongebob clip where

03:45:20.060 he's like this is geo right after he tweeted that april fools i think i think it was i think

03:45:27.760 it was yorkie terrorist who replied he says yeah but you're patrick star

03:45:31.100 i was terrible back in the day i used to be like totally

03:45:44.220 simp max like now that i got a you know now i have a loved one it's just i'm not like that anymore

03:45:49.900 you know like i i can respect women from a distance you know what i mean like i just

03:45:54.000 i don't i don't horny post on main i don't like um i i used to do a lot of simping back in the day

03:46:00.920 oh man and someone got a geo screenshot of geo seeing blair wake no no i never know

03:46:07.880 never not i'm not no i like spoken like a true alex jones listener i'm i listen i'm a turf when

03:46:16.660 it comes to women man i i appreciate real women you know not not like that is that is true you

03:46:22.060 are a feminist he's what's turf stand for in relation trans exclusive terrify enrage

03:46:29.180 terrify and rage

03:46:34.140 radicalized females

03:46:35.740 no I'm just gonna see you

03:46:38.160 bastard you're gonna say something

03:46:39.540 I didn't say anything

03:46:41.860 oh man

03:46:44.020 no but like you know some turfs

03:46:45.940 make some you know they made some good arguments

03:46:47.760 you know

03:46:48.200 Phyllis Shafley is spinning in her

03:46:52.120 grave I appreciate the

03:46:53.920 oh my god another man saying that

03:46:56.020 the feminists aren't all that bad I tried to

03:46:58.000 these dumb cocks

03:46:59.640 you guys ever heard of camille paglia she's actually really cool

03:47:04.620 i love camille we did a whole episode oh geez it turns out i was i was doing a geo impression

03:47:10.500 hey guys my name is geo i really like you guys i'm gonna laugh all the way to the bank when i

03:47:19.580 go on red scare one day okay okay okay i'm i'm very clearly censoring myself

03:47:28.040 i'm gonna just bite my tongue now should it be to jay dyer

03:47:33.900 uh i i had posted the uh giga chad with the explosive vest i wish dasha was a dyer

03:47:41.460 we could get dash on dire we could get dasha i'd rather not we get an oh no i think i like i prefer

03:47:50.840 i'd rather not oh no sorry i'd rather not just be clear i was saying i wish she died

03:47:55.980 i know you said that down anyways at home let's go back to the documentary

03:48:02.260 yeah what what bank what bank i actually i actually feel bad for derailing a serious

03:48:09.580 discussions so let me go back to seriously yeah all the reason why michael rupert is not alive

03:48:14.940 anymore because he saw the future of this whole discussion and realized we were fucked because

03:48:21.280 this is how you discuss long-form good ideas is that maybe you get 20 minutes of a good idea and

03:48:27.240 discussion through and then it is totally ruined by everything else and honestly you know if this

03:48:33.220 is what we get i hate to say i hate to sound blackfield but maybe we get what we fucking

03:48:37.960 deserve oh hey this michael rupert guy had a few good points yeah hollow points

03:48:47.520 oh that's like saying kurt cobain you know no well you know i mean i like to i like to tell

03:48:55.920 people to set themselves off in a way that would make kurt cobain proud um they're opening up

03:49:02.520 their case files on kurt cobain i think they're going to discover that oh my god it's going to

03:49:07.200 be like the jfk files but for like a bunch of like angry gen x and millennial like old people

03:49:13.160 yeah they're gonna be like i'll never accept the truth about kurt cobain until all the

03:49:17.680 cobain files are released it's 20 it's 2045 the aging millennial hipster with his vinyl collection

03:49:25.840 and his like ozambic face is like complaining on twitter that like the the kurt cobain files

03:49:32.300 haven't been released it's 2065 the man is about to suck a shotgun like kurt cobain because kurt

03:49:38.400 cobain files haven't been released i'm waiting for it i'm waiting for it i live in a cyberpunk

03:49:43.900 dystopia i might as well get some entertainment out of it i just want to say bill wilson in the

03:49:47.960 chat i'm a varga truther yeah release the uranus files yeah there you go no i believe alan wrench

03:49:54.540 did it i think he killed kurt cobain but uh that because i just want to believe that like a methed

03:49:58.840 gooner chud killed killed the fucking god of uh hipster leftoids everywhere so uh but anyways um

03:50:06.980 i you know honestly the woke are more correct than the mainstream if cobain were alive today

03:50:10.620 he'd turn out oh yeah definitely that's no no doubt about it um he played rock for choice he

03:50:15.880 was a headline in rock for choice do you remember that with bikini kill yeah um so anyways like uh

03:50:22.160 about this so i was listening to this europos video and they do talk about how for example the

03:50:28.520 the co-chair of palantir talked about how they quote-unquote de-radicalized the far right in

03:50:33.960 europe by essentially selectively lowering immigration but to frame that as a de-radicalization

03:50:42.060 project really does make you think in terms of the type of politicians that musk and others have

03:50:48.220 been supporting right so i do think that there is a lot of concern there um but to go back to like

03:50:55.340 what michael rupert was talking about like how would you how would you boys say in terms of the

03:51:02.980 more financial crisis stuff that he was talking about when they're going to like gear towards a

03:51:08.340 cashless society that they're going to sort of like financialize the economy to such an extent

03:51:13.300 that it's like we'll basically i feel like he was right on the money there we can finance my

03:51:19.480 doordash orders and we've been talking about central bank digital currencies now for about

03:51:24.180 a decade so a lot of zoomers and even younger than zoomers might be unaware that we have been

03:51:29.180 talking about this for like even before collapse of course like we've been talking about the uh

03:51:34.060 financialization of everything for like since like the 90s and even before so oh yeah it's just been

03:51:39.720 the most i would say easily predictable thing if you are a true pessimist uh all speaking of

03:51:46.700 pessimism um i was just tagged in this and so are you too um workout e-girls are using a down

03:51:52.340 syndrome filter to generate traffic to their videos and we've got to be nearing the bottom

03:51:56.060 right how much further can we go aliosha asks geo would oh my god no no that do you remember that

03:52:04.620 video we finally found somewhere where geo is so down low he says no i'm just i'm just so blown

03:52:10.800 away that reality has just become a blood satellite bit so like whores are making themselves down

03:52:16.480 syndrome now for like money insane um the other thing too is is that uh i into back to the

03:52:26.020 financialization of everything real quick it is radically important to consider the maybe like

03:52:30.820 35 years ago how different it was in respects to you had like an evangelical uh charismatic

03:52:38.700 eschaton where like the new world order bring about the antichrist left behind kind of idealism

03:52:44.300 that came with like nafta and the global financial system david dee's um and then on the other side

03:52:51.700 of the things you also have these protesters that were like very old school pro-union uh even like

03:52:57.720 the cesar chavez types that didn't want to bring any any more immigration because like that would

03:53:01.380 like hurt the grift of already the brown people that were working in the country there was this

03:53:05.160 concern that like this was going to be the way in which you could never escape the man and that if

03:53:10.480 you were to have progressive anti-war opinions or anti-trade opinions, that this is how they

03:53:15.880 would track you down and do it. So we're all talking about the same things that we're talking

03:53:19.560 about even today, like the 15-minute cities, the central bank digital currency, everything's going

03:53:24.020 to be on a card. The mark of the beast will be your CBDC number, or it'll be your crypto wallet

03:53:30.180 code or whatever. The financialization of everything has been probably one, as Dime said,

03:53:35.040 the easiest to predict, but also it's the one that we've been talking about for the fucking

03:53:37.920 the longest time, whether it be a bit since Bretton Woods or the collapse and the creation

03:53:42.760 of the Fed and getting off the gold standard. Because what is he talking about in this

03:53:46.780 documentary? He's talking about the need to buy gold, the need to buy silver, the need to have

03:53:51.260 seeds as currency, things that still exist today in a lot of prepper and off-grid circles and with

03:53:56.440 good reason because it's tangible hard currency, things that we don't have anymore. And overall,

03:54:01.320 we've got 30 years of this discussion and a lot of it hasn't changed. It's only progressively

03:54:05.720 gotten far more intense. My ability to quote unquote, get off grid or off the system is a

03:54:11.280 million times harder now than it was 15, 30 years ago. Um, in the same way that it will be harder

03:54:16.700 for any of our children to get off the system in 15 years from now, which is a terrifying thought,

03:54:22.080 especially, uh, because you have a young son dimes. I'm, uh, preparing to ask an important

03:54:28.120 question. And so it's like, Oh, like that's kind of a terrifying thing to consider for the future.

03:54:32.160 And so overall, you're left wondering, well, what do you do? And the thing is, is that Michael Rupert kind of just tells you to kind of wait for things to end because he sees that is the inevitable conclusion of this society, which makes the kind of Trump phenomenon, especially with a quote unquote vibe shift, all the more interesting, because what is the vibe shift?

03:54:54.580 and I've said it many a time before

03:54:56.260 I've said it with you Dimes, I've said it on the air here

03:54:58.500 that the vibe shift is kind of like

03:55:00.760 regulatory capture

03:55:02.200 I'm changing the vibe, I'm being pro-America

03:55:05.060 pro-industrial, pro-Trump

03:55:06.300 because the world is contracting

03:55:07.920 there's been a lot of paperwork about deglobalization

03:55:10.680 and what are we going

03:55:12.980 to do

03:55:13.660 well obviously we need to reshore, obviously we need to make sure

03:55:16.860 our asses collect the bag

03:55:18.360 and we gotta do it by embracing whatever we can

03:55:20.260 if that means a little bit of jingoistic nationalism, so be it

03:55:22.660 but we're still going to financialize the shit out of everything.

03:55:25.580 Notice how we don't really make any things anymore.

03:55:27.520 It's all about sales as a way of service,

03:55:29.880 you know,

03:55:30.060 I say,

03:55:30.360 yeah,

03:55:31.100 I'm anti vibes.

03:55:33.080 Like you cannot hoodwink me with a vibe sale at this.

03:55:37.800 No,

03:55:37.980 but that's unfortunately the current government,

03:55:39.940 but a lot of the policy has been based off of vibes,

03:55:42.360 which is like,

03:55:43.560 in terms of like,

03:55:44.480 I mean,

03:55:44.760 that's how Mark Carney's selling,

03:55:46.200 by the way.

03:55:46.960 Yeah,

03:55:47.200 exactly.

03:55:47.820 Like Mark Carney,

03:55:48.580 he's not going to be no different from Trudeau.

03:55:50.280 I mean,

03:55:50.440 that's let's face it.

03:55:51.560 but the vibe is that you know he very he was very good at calculating but even like the i i think

03:55:58.180 like even the trump administration there is a lot of hard things going on as well there's a lot of

03:56:02.900 policy changes that are good but there is like this overt focus on vibes that don't really um

03:56:09.540 materialize into coherent social or geopolitical policy you know what i mean but for we're gonna

03:56:16.820 ass dimes about his son no my my point was that you know if you have small children and like

03:56:23.720 you're concerned about like the very real fucking panopticon that we live in and one that is also

03:56:31.520 built part and parcel from foreign powers like china or israel like and you're kind of concerned

03:56:37.720 about having the wrong kind of politics or whatever like dissidence is going to pay far

03:56:42.300 more of a like cancel culture will never go away it's just going to come from the different i hate

03:56:48.480 to use the other side of the spectrum or the other side of the pendulum but it will um and you kind

03:56:54.340 of already see that in some respects um but like peak woke hasn't gone away it's become internalized

03:57:00.560 in our entire like young generation and so you're kind of witnessing i think because you saw this a

03:57:06.240 lot during covid and you saw this a lot i don't want to say it's predictive programming but perhaps

03:57:09.760 it is like you saw all this emphasis on de-globalization this retrenchment as the

03:57:14.460 international community realizes that oh international supply chains are super fragile

03:57:18.200 and we kind of need to be able to build shit at home and there's wars going on and we should be

03:57:23.320 able to produce things to defend ourselves and then you get people like peter zyhan who i'm sure

03:57:27.800 glows to high heaven has connections to the intelligence agencies whatever wrote a book

03:57:31.680 that called the end of the world is just beginning it's a hell of a read because he accurately

03:57:36.320 points out a lot of the things michael rupert you know michael rupert's talking about this

03:57:40.120 documentary talking about a lot of the things that myself have talked about geo has talked about

03:57:44.280 dimes has talked about um even other types like the paranormies and the rest like i've all been

03:57:48.740 talking about for like years that essentially yeah all these things are coming to an end there

03:57:53.800 will be a demographic crisis there will be a population bubble but that's a good thing because

03:57:58.200 the powers that be are going to ensure that like america and like europe will be the least sick

03:58:03.260 people on earth and we can compete against our global

03:58:05.220 enemies through and that means more

03:58:07.040 neoliberalism more immigration

03:58:08.860 and more like techno investment

03:58:11.200 and it's just like what the fuck

03:58:13.200 like you really went to glass Russia

03:58:14.940 as well that's another thing well he doesn't mention

03:58:17.140 that in his book but I mean like

03:58:18.380 everything goes

03:58:21.080 back to Russia oh my god

03:58:23.360 you can see it for her backyard

03:58:25.460 in like

03:58:27.440 Peter Zion's first book

03:58:28.960 Disunited Nations which I actually quite liked

03:58:31.080 he was envisioning a future

03:58:33.120 where the United States retreats

03:58:35.180 from its international security concerns.

03:58:37.280 Like, what would that look like?

03:58:38.500 What does that first year look like?

03:58:40.100 Even Mark Stein had that book, yeah.

03:58:41.560 Yeah, which it's an interesting thought experiment.

03:58:44.400 And his contention is that

03:58:46.120 that's when you will still see turbo America,

03:58:49.000 but it will focus more upon South America

03:58:51.760 and asserting itself within that entire hemisphere.

03:58:55.400 But what does Asia begin to look like?

03:58:57.920 And you may very well see that

03:58:59.580 multi-polarity project fall apart.

03:59:01.540 It's so focused on South and Central America. Like, that's the thing. China has been getting more involved with the alternative organization that was started by the last Mexican president for the community. It's CELAC, the Community for Central American and Latin American States. You know, it's the anti-OAS because it's not ran by the Americans.

03:59:25.420 um and you know china's been getting involved with that and then also like they've been heavily

03:59:29.820 invested in the lithium triangle in south america uh and they even got i think it was uruguay to

03:59:35.340 like change their position on recognizing taiwan as a sovereign country with money and vaccine

03:59:39.700 diplomacy in the 2020s and so it's like that's insane uh and so like yeah america will have a

03:59:46.300 renewed interest there and also it has to have a renewed interest there because uh unless i get

03:59:51.220 my dream world and then like every you know person from the global south disappears from

03:59:56.220 america to like in this administration which i know isn't going to happen but it would be super

04:00:00.020 nice um i would like to be able to afford things at a reasonable rate so uh the the powers that be

04:00:06.220 are gonna have to find a way to incorporate um all of these hispanics and all of these latin

04:00:11.340 americans and all these indios into like the system that's here in america and like you kind

04:00:16.240 of already have to see that as like the trump administration and the trump campaign in 2020

04:00:19.820 and 2024 you know managed to get a lot of swing votes from like the rio grand valley and like

04:00:24.680 cuba or the cuban votes in florida and the rest and parts of new mexico and arizona and so you're

04:00:29.640 just like huh that's interesting um because you know virtually every right-wing conspiracy about

04:00:34.020 like the asset law and plan and everything that was written about an insaturation and an american

04:00:37.920 renaissance like 30 years ago is all come true and so how do you basically just like breed and

04:00:44.760 immigrate so much that like the former mexican territories are effectively demographically

04:00:48.540 mexican again and that's the whole reconquista movement i was speaking about this with a

04:00:54.920 disgraced propagandist on issue of the carousel just last week and i made the assertion that

04:01:00.160 ethnogenesis is something that actually just happens through synthesis and oftentimes people

04:01:05.620 speak of it sort of like a centralized political project that you can initiate and i said well no

04:01:10.560 it's actually kind of a passive process and that's how it's occurred all throughout history but

04:01:15.120 that's what's so dangerous about it is that you get an ethnogenesis on a long enough timeline if

04:01:20.320 you just have certain groups side by side they will begin to merge and so once you have that

04:01:26.280 phenomenon you just described of now you have mexicans and indians voting for remigration

04:01:31.620 well something fucking happened here and there actually is no way to turn that back because

04:01:35.660 they are fully immersed in the american identity they have there has been an ethnogenesis the

04:01:41.160 ethnogenesis is the american hispanic and without an insane unprecedented amount of violence that's

04:01:48.960 not going to change well and also too like you have like a certain like there's there's the

04:01:53.380 because like what wokeness did was and you could argue from like if you wanted to be like a civic

04:01:57.880 nationalist you would argue like one of wokeness's greatest problems was that um it was that it

04:02:03.920 forced because there was a trend up until about 2014 interesting time frame where a lot of hispanics

04:02:09.880 america were purposely identifying as white because they saw that still as the cultural and

04:02:15.020 still even in the american sense the way to get up in the world kind of like us italians yes kind

04:02:20.500 of like you italians um i'm holding my tongue i'm biting my tongue um and it hurts hurts a lot

04:02:27.600 uh so but the the point being that uh that stopped around 2014 and now you're kind of seeing this

04:02:33.860 like renewed like hey we don't want your kind never go back where you came from and it's the

04:02:37.840 meme of the two brown people arguing with each other it's two mexicans one's wearing an american

04:02:42.000 flag t-shirt they own some mexican that's the republican party gop by the way yeah it's basically

04:02:46.940 two brown different types of brown people arguing about yeah and so but like you see this like

04:02:51.840 cultural divide where like um even though the fact that we have all this like long-term generational

04:02:56.740 data of like people who've lived in new mexico from like generations since like we took the

04:03:01.420 territory and the gadsden purchase and like the mexican-american war they're still less productive

04:03:05.920 than like the whites that moved and settled the area but like regardless of that like there's

04:03:10.760 also these internal cultural linguistic ethnic divides where it's like well um you know if you're

04:03:16.280 like if you raise your kids and like you're mexican or hispanic or whatever and they don't

04:03:20.260 understand spanish like all the other mexicans part of like a little in group they're like oh

04:03:23.580 those are sabo kids like we don't want to talk to them because they're not like us they've become

04:03:26.600 assimilated they're their own thing which is its own problem which makes the whole immigration

04:03:30.480 debate even more awkward to watch play out on the main stage because everyone and their mother who's

04:03:35.900 like a white commentator has basically taking the points of the alt-right from 10 years ago like

04:03:40.920 i love wade stott's to death he all but didn't say like america is great because of white people

04:03:47.660 and vivek rabbi swami's a retard like he he said that in a much kinder canon plus approved way

04:03:53.740 so is sheinbaum also a china show or no uh i mean she's like a radical socialist nationalist i'm

04:04:01.420 pretty sure she's friendly with china so she's sort of like a black jewish or indio-jewish

04:04:07.600 it's hard no but sean wyland says 2014 was also when all the color revolutions happened whether

04:04:12.880 it was in ukraine it was in the middle east uh in certain parts of asia uh was was um

04:04:19.940 hosny wabarak overthrown in 2014 sean wyland uh i'm almost positive that is the case yeah yeah

04:04:27.420 he was ousted no he was asked in like 2011 i think 2011 was the tunisian spring right

04:04:36.080 well that was the beginning of the arab spring but okay so hasni mubarak died when did he die

04:04:42.400 i think he died i'm almost yeah he died in 2020 in 91 wow he was sick so he was overthrown in

04:04:50.740 the egyptian revolution and then he was followed by who succeeded him was the next question um i'm

04:04:56.840 trying to remember well georgia was 2008 yeah and then i think it was another one in 2004

04:05:02.660 uh so after that he was ousted and then replaced by muhammad morsi in 2012 or after 2011 and then

04:05:14.580 you had the 2013 egyptian coup d'etat and then fatah al-sisi took in oh the umbrella revolution

04:05:21.140 in hong kong and muhammad morsi died in 2019 was yeah morsi he was the uh the muslim brotherhood

04:05:28.460 guy yeah if i remember that was a glowy yeah yeah yeah the revolution in hong kong i remember that

04:05:34.580 in 2014 i remember your euro maidan was there was some wild the state department was on some

04:05:40.180 really great coke when did a benghazi happen 2012 september 11th 2012 oh yeah 2012 yeah

04:05:48.280 and basically they were trying to make that a big

04:05:50.980 part of the election and Hillary Clinton fell on

04:05:53.000 the sword for the promise that

04:05:55.000 she would be the one

04:05:56.140 Donald Trump gaming in the chat saying

04:05:58.820 Morrissey was the president of Egypt

04:06:00.620 that's what I was thinking I was trying to think

04:06:01.980 but I didn't want to disrupt the flow

04:06:04.400 yeah no Morrissey was actually

04:06:06.820 the president of Algeria at one point

04:06:08.700 anyway imagine imagine just getting

04:06:10.840 like gutted by a bunch of like rabid

04:06:13.080 like Islamic extremists

04:06:14.860 and all that plays in the background is like

04:06:16.920 an arab cover band of please let me get what i want oh that's brutal that's brutal no but you

04:06:24.040 had a great point period it's it's true like uh no but the reason i mentioned peter zihon like

04:06:28.300 being a you know you know um saying that we should glass russia is i think that

04:06:33.420 there is obviously a reason why they're freaking out over this there is a reason why i think

04:06:39.860 they're not as willing to be as china hawkish as maybe trump wants to go towards because i think

04:06:47.960 they realize that china is obviously a different animal than pouring all this like normie sadism

04:06:53.680 into russia phobia so i think that it's very interesting how the remnants of like i guess

04:07:00.380 you could say the post end of history order that they're trying to maintain as a lot of like

04:07:06.620 carving up of the world happens in terms of resources and in terms of more succinctly

04:07:12.060 political influence it's kind of very interesting how there's a lot of these schizophrenic narratives

04:07:17.360 going on and how like for example the greatest as much as like one of people want to say that like

04:07:23.640 the political right in america is in control because of maga i still think that looking at

04:07:28.460 the trends and beliefs of the political left is ultimately the best way of gauging elite opinion

04:07:33.620 and what they believe in terms of geopolitics like for example worshiping that hideous shine

04:07:39.820 bomb woman is like another thing where they're trying to make her into this secular saint when

04:07:46.280 mexico maybe like when was the last time mexico wasn't hostile to american foreign interest was

04:07:51.920 like during the guy that was in there during the bush years not even just into fox you said to

04:07:57.140 fox yeah yeah like mexico ended up becoming like a rabid like trump 1.0 anti-trumper uh although

04:08:03.320 he like oversaw some of the greatest escalation of violence yes exactly the rule there was a

04:08:07.920 cartel war when he was there i you know how i know that because uh this was when this is when

04:08:14.420 like a lucha libre was also having like a mini revival in the states and so yeah like a lot of

04:08:19.980 yeah all the more reason why we should kick them all out i remember that's what teddy hart said

04:08:26.940 about uh penta penta nero or what is what does wb call him like every time i see pandal dulce

04:08:34.200 being sold somewhere i'm just like i i call it the ice tip line he's like this guy you think i'm

04:08:39.980 trained him when there was a cartel war you know nobody no wrestler wanted to go down to mexico but

04:08:46.400 me and jack evans went down to mexico that's what teddy hart was shooting on uh pentagon yeah

04:08:52.860 but um no but yeah so you do have like i i don't really see the evidence that america's

04:09:01.020 recapitulating to um south and central america because it seems that like

04:09:06.000 does trump even still talk about the border wall anymore or is that just sort of like

04:09:11.200 uh another well trump lists it as an accomplishment and saying that he's you know authorized the rest

04:09:17.440 of it to be finished is it getting finished i don't know i'm hoping that you're placated by

04:09:23.700 all the deportations which is i hope you're i hope you're being placated by the studio ghibli

04:09:29.120 version of that fat dominican or whatever she was being arrested yeah see i think they have

04:09:35.200 like i hate to do i hate to sound like such a fucking like traditional marxist but it's just

04:09:41.680 like wow like i'm really living in this suspected society of spectacle like i'm just living in

04:09:47.140 guidey boards fucking really they're they're thinking it's a green light to be mean mean

04:09:53.300 funny but i'm like i think it's a miscalculation of just how bloodthirsty regular people are right

04:09:59.080 now yeah like people want to see children ripped away from their parents that's what i detect when

04:10:06.520 i listen to people like they're very very mad like the people are fucking crazy right now people

04:10:12.380 everyone's radical there's not one radical person that the fucking neo-libs that you know

04:10:17.340 want to see fucking russian children burning alive yeah they brag about russian soldiers dying

04:10:22.900 yeah like i want we got people celebrating palestinian babies being like pulled out of

04:10:28.380 the rubble yeah everybody's fucking insane well it's because their parents were also terrorists

04:10:34.280 so therefore i don't feel bad their their parents should have been terrorists you know i'm doing

04:10:39.200 right you know a voice i'm doing right uh i don't know it's all people to me ben shapiro

04:10:43.960 he said that he said that their parents he said that palestinian children their parents were

04:10:50.120 terrorists anyways uh he literally said that all the sins of the father pass on to the sins of the

04:10:55.380 son if you're concerned about your uh state in the middle east here's a good point that daniella

04:11:00.580 brought up uh do normies even care about animals anymore you could easily turn them oh my god

04:11:05.140 that's so true you based yeah you could easily turn them against china based on their uh treatment

04:11:10.460 of the animals yeah it seems like every day um i've said i've said this in the past where if you

04:11:16.800 if you wanted to like all those like that chinese woman on tiktok how she always shows like the cute

04:11:21.860 animal before she cooks it i'm like man if you wanted to like gear up every white woman to go

04:11:27.800 to war with china those would be like mainstream instead of remember the main i know instead of

04:11:34.360 remember the main it would be just like remember poor so and so but i mean unfortunately though

04:11:39.160 like animal issues became so fuck what's the last one like peanut the squirrel and that turned into

04:11:46.140 like a weird political meme for three days right before the election no one cares about like animal

04:11:51.100 welfare which is really sad because there are no people who do give a shit about animals in real

04:11:55.580 life i know a lot of people who care about animals are far-right radicals like i'm not even joking

04:12:01.300 like we're the only ones who like dogs and they're not trying to fuck their dogs because this the sad

04:12:06.860 thing is is like and i said i think i said this in the last episode a couple weeks ago or whatever

04:12:11.260 was just that if you are a pita like card carrying i support my local animal shelter i find animals

04:12:21.160 and i donate them to the no-kill shelter or i try and raise them myself unfortunately you have

04:12:26.280 probably been psyoped into being like a i heckin love trannies and i will trans my grandson if i

04:12:32.380 get the chance because there is no way in which you can be progressive on one issue without being

04:12:39.200 progressive on all of them this is why the commodification of liberal politics through

04:12:43.780 intersectionalism has been the greatest thing like if i'm again if i'm looking at this as a

04:12:48.780 marxist this is the greatest thing the capital has ever done because all of a sudden every pet

04:12:54.260 progressive issue has been turned into a ethically okay and you know it's it's ethical it's free

04:13:00.500 trade it's fair trade uh um pet issue that i can virtue signal we're the only ones who care about

04:13:06.120 the livelihood of pets which is why i stuff pitbulls with c4 and throw them into rappers

04:13:11.860 did you see no gibson fan on twitter for every hundred for every thousand likes i'll donate

04:13:16.780 i can't even say it it's so brutal i can't even say it you know it's really bad because okay so

04:13:25.480 so my so my roommates in a group chat it's like if his normie friends on like a facebook

04:13:29.660 messenger chat and he's just like wow that's a lot of dead pit bulls in the chat

04:13:33.680 and i'm thinking to myself even me who who who i i told hitch slap on twitter a couple weeks ago

04:13:42.000 he's just like well what's what why is it so bad when we talk about pit bulls and they're all of

04:13:46.780 a sudden like well i know a labrador that bit somebody and i'm just like because hitch slap

04:13:51.580 every conversation about pit bulls is a thinly veiled conversation about

04:13:54.980 and he's like is that true and everyone's like yeah hitch slap where the fuck have you been

04:13:59.880 the bet no um who said berwick in the chat said um what did he say uh

04:14:07.120 about the animal thing um where is it oh man yeah yeah you got lefty saying japanese children

04:14:16.560 deserve to be burned alive because of nan king but also because of junko what's her name junko

04:14:23.700 pop that that woman like the woman that was abused and killed that's like the one major

04:14:30.100 terrible yeah yeah but that's what i mean like but the thing is it's terrible but like every

04:14:34.640 month on on online on like either reddit or on x junko goes viral by some like rad them

04:14:41.360 junko yeah they're just like uh they're just like see how terrible this is i'm like this was a major

04:14:46.220 national scandal and it's the only one that you can point to that happened almost 30 years ago

04:14:50.840 whereas like pakistani rape gangs happen every day but that's different that's i'm just i'm just

04:14:57.420 i'm just asking for some consistent racism but the thing is like okay i will admit that okay yes

04:15:04.220 it's true japanese japanese society does have a lot of like strange fucked up sexualization going

04:15:09.200 on and there are women that get like you know groped in subways or whatnot but i think like

04:15:14.380 to use that extreme example when you have like clear like you were saying when you have like

04:15:18.400 in all throughout europe and parts of north america you have very clear and present dangers

04:15:23.180 that come about from the demographic shifts and it's like you know that that is like insensitive

04:15:29.060 and intolerant i really think like here's the thing you guys are gonna hate me for saying

04:15:34.080 here's the thing you guys hate me but like you could create a coalition of sort of like

04:15:41.640 racist radfems you know that could no you know what i'm not you know i hate to break it to you

04:15:47.300 I hate, I really hate to break it to you.

04:15:49.680 Racist rad fems were a thing 30 years ago.

04:15:52.640 They are now anti-racist rad fems and old and are pro-trans.

04:15:58.100 Yeah.

04:15:58.260 I think the only racist rad fem that I know wants to kill all men.

04:16:01.720 So I don't really know how to square that.

04:16:03.100 Yeah.

04:16:03.400 The only racist rad fem I know is one that used to go by Holly Himmler.

04:16:09.240 Well, that's what I'm talking about.

04:16:10.780 She hates white men the most.

04:16:12.720 So she'll probably just start fucking black guys soon.

04:16:16.060 I assume.

04:16:16.640 no don't say that anyways um no but no i think like um you could but here's the thing like you

04:16:24.920 know it really comes down to uh a lot of like the social conditioning i think we haven't like really

04:16:32.080 left the 2010s in that regard so that's why you have these huge disparities between looking at

04:16:37.980 this case from the 1980s in japan because japan is coded as a you know advanced western society

04:16:44.760 and of course the anime thing because they think like all all these like right-wing chud insults

04:16:50.320 love anime so therefore we have to hate japan but when it comes to like you were saying a lot

04:16:55.900 of these grooming gangs it's like that's still that sort of like multicultural conditioning

04:17:01.360 like we really like as much as we like to think that we've sort of like abandoned the

04:17:05.840 soillennial 2010s we really haven't it's still there it's just that because of like other

04:17:10.600 there's no place on earth where women aren't being molested and they don't know what to do

04:17:17.000 about it it's just different versions of that well no there's not one there's not like we're

04:17:24.260 supposed to hate them because you know they're how they treat women like they're getting fucking

04:17:27.640 raped by black guys on subways here they're gonna rape by muslims over there and just they don't know

04:17:31.920 what to do so yeah everything's the same fucking bullshit you know here's here's my politics is

04:17:38.100 that i'm stupid and i'm insane and i want terrible things to happen to people that i don't like

04:17:44.480 that's it any other narrative has to pass through that fucking filter and if it doesn't fit then it

04:17:50.680 doesn't fit yeah that's true amen brother that's what i say to people who are trying to sell me on

04:17:58.800 some fucking shit like oh don't you think that there's no nope i'm stupid i'm crazy i'm i'm

04:18:03.860 fucking toxic and i'm ruined after over 30 years of of simmering in this crock of shit

04:18:11.280 you call it fucking culture so yeah and i watched everybody i watched everybody i have to make sure

04:18:19.080 not to yell because my son's in the next room now i'm longhouse i'm in an office with my wife

04:18:23.380 these days upstairs of course but i'm like i i watched everyone get up to my level and that's

04:18:30.300 fucked up yeah that's true oh man death wish sean shaver death wish 3 to be specific

04:18:40.220 oh god death wish and really you know even that genre of movie has died like there was a cultural

04:18:48.600 outlet for white male frustrations for their nation going to shit like death wish was really

04:18:54.680 good even um there was one with michael caine in britain but even then they're coded in such a way

04:18:59.660 were going after like white gang members because you don't dare upset the muslim community in there

04:19:03.500 um but like that doesn't exist but it's in everyone's mind everyone wishes that they could

04:19:09.560 be fucking uh what was just bronce and just going ham on criminals and doing exactly what needs to

04:19:15.820 be done my favorite thing about the first death wish is it just fucking ends you know what i mean

04:19:20.140 like he kind of gets away with it and smiles at the camera it's like with a with a gun yeah finger

04:19:24.500 gun yeah yeah what a great movie like wow we caught you i don't know what to do with you just

04:19:30.260 just get out of here i wish i could take care of and just take put the giggler out of his misery

04:19:37.740 but i love how i love how his wife is brutalized and he seems kind of okay with it afterwards like

04:19:43.720 really soon and then like he ends it on a smile it's like man you lost your fucking family he's

04:19:48.220 like and he didn't get the guy who did it he just got a bunch of other people

04:19:52.400 sometimes real revenge was the crackheads he killed along the way

04:19:58.500 the more craft heads i redact the better i feel yeah with each gangbanger i take out with my 357

04:20:09.580 the more i forget about my bitch wife oh i do not endorse i do not endorse but um

04:20:19.720 your endorsements mean nothing to me i know what you retweet

04:20:23.320 what what do i retweet what was the latest egregious one do we have access to geo's

04:20:32.800 bookmarks i don't want to go through that it's only a bunch of cool report stuff and a bunch of

04:20:41.160 like uh drawing material like you know drawing resources yeah a whole burning report stuff

04:20:46.360 i think we did that at the beginning of the show geo's been long house that's very true

04:20:52.220 did we say everything that needs to be said about collapse i forgot how the movie how the

04:20:59.140 the documentary ended though well basically that it's coming it's coming and he says wind and solar

04:21:05.540 are okay but you know there's that one part that prudentialist mentioned earlier on which is that

04:21:10.480 he touches on nuclear energy and he says it's not viable because it's too hard to build nuclear

04:21:18.180 reactors which you had said that's more of a policy issue than anything well a lot of there's

04:21:22.180 a lot of regulatory burdens because um behind nuclear energy but i mean like are there things

04:21:27.840 to be genuinely concerned about yeah probably and also um the scary thing like okay in a collapse

04:21:35.560 scenario if i'm thinking about like the end of the world or whatever uh i would also be worried

04:21:41.860 about like defunct or destroyed or decaying nuclear facilities oh yeah um i would be concerned

04:21:50.520 about that like i hate the fact that um south africa as we know it has died but also like

04:21:57.340 I can't find a lot of redeeming

04:21:59.600 qualities to F.W. DeClerc, but

04:22:01.280 denuclearizing before all those

04:22:03.600 guys got in charge

04:22:04.840 was probably a great thing, and probably

04:22:07.460 a God's mercy on mankind.

04:22:09.820 But, nevertheless,

04:22:11.240 I can see why he

04:22:13.520 would be about that. But, I mean, also, like, Rupert

04:22:15.540 didn't really give his timeline

04:22:17.260 in this documentary for when things will end.

04:22:19.440 He just says that it's coming, and that you have

04:22:21.540 to be prepared. Because he makes a very clear point

04:22:23.640 at the beginning of the documentary, that

04:22:25.540 it it will it won't be all at once it will be slow and that we're in the middle of it we're at

04:22:31.780 the beginning of it the financial collapse is just one sign of the collapse that is to come

04:22:36.640 um very wars and rumors of wars kind of prophesying uh in the sense that like everyone focuses on

04:22:43.200 these things they realize that that's not the end it's not yet the collapse it's not yet the true

04:22:47.840 end of all things he's talking about that with water too is they will get a landline uh get water

04:22:52.160 get a well uh do what you can because you know eventually like the public sewage system and the

04:22:57.020 trash won't be collected and all these things that you would take advantage of are gone and

04:23:00.140 then trust us and point and i think his solution which is to effectively make something like a

04:23:07.640 breakaway community but he has that framed in a very boomer individualist sense which is

04:23:12.520 you should go and get in a cabin in the woods get a well and just you individual go and do that when

04:23:19.240 in reality you need something like a community which really means you need a town which means

04:23:23.680 you need a parallel society which is a parallel town you need infrastructure to survive any of

04:23:28.560 this the idea and this was more of a boomer fantasy and deep down all of our fantasies

04:23:34.200 just as a white man all i want to do is live in the woods and go insane of course we all do

04:23:39.500 but realistically if you want if you're taking this idea of societal collapse seriously you have

04:23:45.920 to know that you're not going to be a fucking

04:23:47.820 lone gunman out there you're not going to be a

04:23:49.840 cool singular rogue

04:23:52.100 or even with your family you know

04:23:53.920 what I mean like that's not good so if you're thinking

04:23:55.540 you're not going to be Ted Kaczynski or Randy Weaver

04:23:57.960 you're not going to be those guys

04:24:00.120 you're not going to be like your favorite

04:24:01.800 fallout build you're not even going

04:24:03.900 to be like Vigio Mortensen in

04:24:05.880 the road it's not going to be like

04:24:07.540 and so and what he had done what Michael Rupert

04:24:09.740 done he sort of found this kind of hippy dippy

04:24:11.680 commune where he gets to play acoustic guitar

04:24:13.780 and smoke weed at this dog which is fine

04:24:15.700 of course he's a he's a cool guy likes to smoke but that was more him and so the back end of his

04:24:21.580 life living the boomer dream which is retiring a lot yeah you know his his plan for the collapse

04:24:27.780 was doing what every boomer does which is get a trailer in the fucking mountains and party with

04:24:31.980 your neighbors on lawn chairs and shit which is fine but if you are a young person looking at this

04:24:37.360 seriously you understand that you can't even use these sorts of prescriptions to survive you need

04:24:43.140 something a lot more dynamic and a lot more complex because what you are building is a

04:24:47.500 parallel society and you need to figure out how to build that where it's not reliant on the same

04:24:52.160 grid you're trying to escape if that's what you're trying to do you're not what does he say he says

04:24:57.700 you're not going to be the rugged individualist yeah you're not instead what you're going to be

04:25:03.140 is you're going to be the guy that uh needs a tribe you need a clan and again where does that

04:25:10.400 i hear that rhetoric all the time today except you hear it much more like ethno nationalist kind

04:25:15.940 of language you need your tribe you need your people you need to be here and you need to think

04:25:20.580 about it and it's just like that where have i heard that before that's kind of interesting

04:25:25.240 and uh we don't you're not even going to be the mad trapper yeah right that's a deep canadian cut

04:25:32.380 right there um but you see this this narrative being grabbed from his previous position which

04:25:39.260 was deeply ensconced in sort of the new age but also ufo conspiracy sphere into the ethno

04:25:46.000 nationalist sphere so i don't think you have a lot of those people traveling with it anymore

04:25:49.860 a lot of aliens are an ethno nationalist did you know that i did not but there's quite a surprising

04:25:56.280 amount of fiery people in the ufology thing which is why i think how many black people are into ufos

04:26:01.700 i ask legitimately no actually there's a few

04:26:05.200 no but like this is why i don't like how a lot of the e-right they're like

04:26:11.860 bashing on schizo posting or bashing on ufology like maybe there's something to it not just

04:26:18.160 because it doesn't have like an immediate salient real politique attached to it doesn't mean that

04:26:23.320 like a lot of conspiracy theory didn't wasn't a vector of bringing a lot of people to the right

04:26:28.540 you know what i mean like it's just that's a fact it is i often see people trying to destroy

04:26:33.980 the very pipelines that brought them to this point yeah you're gonna fucking pull up the ladder

04:26:38.820 i was about to say like the one thing that liberals were right about circa 2015 was that

04:26:44.080 there was a libertarian skeptic to alt-right pipeline and they couldn't destroy it here's

04:26:52.620 the problem most leftists are right about this shit we just were trying to you know we try to

04:26:58.220 we just didn't want to be associated with them yeah it's true but um you know there's a lot of

04:27:06.440 unoptical people that if i had the balls i would just say you know fuck it i'm gonna interview you

04:27:10.260 but i can't so who would you can you say it you can no i'm not gonna say it you can name one

04:27:15.340 i know some guys i'm gonna try and get for the end here a guy that's affiliated with the

04:27:21.320 the uh guy that's into birds put it that way guy who's into birds hitler no

04:27:29.720 i'm not traveling all the way to argentina the audubon society

04:27:36.080 i mean i'm trying to i'm trying to interview tom larner for poisoning chickens in the park

04:27:43.380 maybe he's still alive by the way i got a pen i'm gonna get david duke on at some point

04:27:50.200 please don't i'm talking about matthew parrot there you go matthew oh matthew oh what's wrong

04:27:55.800 he's gettable like he's he is but like it's just i don't know man like it's just it would be an

04:28:00.800 optical you know which is unfortunate because he's a great guy i like him but it's just that

04:28:05.280 you know what i mean i don't know i mean i don't even think these days i don't like how

04:28:11.000 a lot of those guys are just very pro-palestinian which isn't even the worst no i just don't want

04:28:16.920 to get like i don't want like you know like he's like there's certain people that like i think are

04:28:22.460 very like they're you know great minds but the thing is like they have like all these like you

04:28:28.480 know fucking antifa freaks that like hound them and it's like it's terrible man like maybe a few

04:28:33.720 years from now like if things actually go like you know people cool down i think like there will be

04:28:41.200 um a reopticization of certain people you know what i mean like i think like there's a certain

04:28:47.180 podcast put it that way that they're trying to like reoptic themselves which is good because i

04:28:52.840 think those guys they do talk about a lot of serious shit and it's like but the problem is

04:28:57.000 like you do have these whole armies of like glow-in-the-dark affiliated people that are just

04:29:02.540 like solely devoted to going after like these certain figures and it's just it's terrible i

04:29:10.780 think it's like you know who do you think he's talking about trs no not too well they're not

04:29:17.940 trying to re-optic themselves that's what i'm trying to think i'm like i was trying to figure

04:29:22.140 it out who the hell you were talking about then because i don't let's never mind never mind

04:29:25.460 i mentioned i mentioned them last week come town's over so it can't be that well come town was

04:29:31.200 already optic the thing is here's you want to know the secret come i would actually okay as a

04:29:35.780 as a pause as a tangent there's some there's some like dirtbag irony leftists i would love

04:29:40.700 to interview and just be like so what's it like being wrong about everything like i just i just

04:29:47.360 want to ask and be like hey so what's it like getting canceled for just existing what's it

04:29:53.000 like to still really be into aoc now in 2025 what's it like to still be talking what's it

04:29:59.820 like to be a bernie bro in 2025 like still like i i watch guys like will meneker and all these guys

04:30:06.220 going doom scroll and they're still talking about aoc and bernie like there's not a new topic

04:30:11.420 what's it like knowing the populist left hit the wall if you if you're if you say that you're a

04:30:17.540 bernie bro my response is so when's your next prostate exam back to the connie

04:30:24.480 how are those finasteride treatments going buddy that's even better that's even better

04:30:32.500 what was it like being in a coma matt i got el what's it like to be inside aoc is the real

04:30:38.760 question there's some heaters in the chat tonight i like this oh it was seasoned i love the fact

04:30:45.440 that like jen pisaki's got that uh fucking tv show on msnbc and it's called inside with jen

04:30:51.560 bizarre i could be inside there that's fine

04:30:55.200 finally a tv show asking the question we all wanted to know what's like the one redeeming

04:31:04.320 feature of the biden administration

04:31:06.020 you should give kristin cinema a show this is the horniest era of politics it's true it's true

04:31:14.060 this is the most sexually frustrated era of politics because half the people that are

04:31:19.600 fucking are it's the same people that's been fucking for like the last 20 years and then like

04:31:24.780 you look at all the reports about zoomers and millennials and it's like half of these men are

04:31:28.680 like this shit ain't fucking worth it and half of these men aren't talking to women and then the

04:31:33.380 other like half are like well i'm gonna try but i'm also gonna listen to these like trafficking

04:31:38.080 schizos over here and see how this goes even even now the whole russia gate thing is like do you

04:31:43.460 know donald trump had a bunch of hookers in russia and made them piss on the bed after you

04:31:47.880 them it's like good yeah i like that i hope that happened don't yeah don't don't uh check into what

04:31:55.980 they're doing in uh in in abu dhabi yeah like i you know girls this is the most this is the

04:32:03.180 hardiest era of politics because i'm just instantly reminded of that jordan peterson

04:32:07.800 tweet about china and he's posting milking the milking farm yeah the fetish milking facility

04:32:14.980 he's just like this is chinese hellhole or whatever and it's just like

04:32:19.380 we're all kanye west now we are

04:32:24.860 oh god kanye west is the archetype of america he's a horny black nazi that's america but he

04:32:34.420 only wants to disagree with that one just because that characterizes america in a really awful way

04:32:39.680 yeah i didn't mean it it was just words i just said them we're at the this is just words part

04:32:46.460 of the podcast ladies and gentlemen so many people were so excited for the stream because

04:32:50.720 they loved the last one and we were on fire and i feel like i've let them down so much so i'm

04:32:55.580 really trying to be like so what about uh fucking uh black gum what about um dying in it what if

04:33:01.300 you died in it that reminds me this one part of kiddo casino it just sounds like all the like

04:33:06.480 weird we was part of twitter and they're just like did you know that like they were still

04:33:10.980 eating us until 1971 and i'm like fucking where like you're a trio you know my response is just

04:33:18.600 good i like that why why do we stop it's like you accelerate the fantasies of black nationalists

04:33:25.660 and say that like the white people was turned us into soap it's like yeah i'm just gonna start

04:33:32.640 becoming like you know there's probably like black nationalist truthers they're like yeah that all

04:33:36.660 happened it was great do you know they used our fetus soap up until 1986 good why'd they stop

04:33:42.960 let's do that again i like that it's good and cool just reminds me that one episode of kid

04:33:49.180 leopold the second giga chat it's i think it was over destiny where like ppp just screams

04:33:56.240 into the microphone let's get some subs for cum yeah you really want to be on that show now i get

04:34:04.220 it geo wants the show to be that show and i i understand his way to the show yeah um no but

04:34:12.880 it's truly isn't this is geo show let's all be honest this is all geo show that's like that one

04:34:20.220 death in june song uh i am the avatar for the exhaust uh uh what's it called what's it called

04:34:26.560 she said she said destroy or she's like uh something black in in new york it's like

04:34:32.000 black come in new york like what are you talking about i think douglas p would like that what's

04:34:37.480 the well ladies and gentlemen this show is i'm going to renege on my earlier promise

04:34:43.160 this one's going down someone's staying by the paywall folks glad you were here when it was live

04:34:49.540 i was i'm like you know what by the end of the show we're not going to renege i promise and

04:34:54.380 then here we are so this is the song by death in june she said destroy and it said um uh what's

04:35:01.620 something about did this come out in around 2008 this sounds like a very title yeah

04:35:09.360 oh man what was the but just like my hope never buying a house died in 2008 so has the stream we

04:35:18.620 took a trip back to 2009 but at least you can burn your way through collapse by using code prude

04:35:24.340 when you go to alppouch.com slash prude for all of your nicotine needs warning this has been

04:35:29.160 deferred by the fda to be a cancer-causing product as well as addictive however regardless of which

04:35:33.620 you too can endure the long slog of every digital archipelago episode with the fresh buzz of six

04:35:38.980 milligram alp in your mouth burning through your nervous system while you're tuning in but remember

04:35:45.320 this show is financially supported by viewers like you because god knows we're not going to

04:35:49.160 get any real sponsorships around here so with that being said geo do you have anything else

04:35:53.180 that you would like to add on this documentary do they have pouches that just give you cancer

04:35:57.680 um i want that pouches that don't give you cancer i want the ones that's extra

04:36:04.280 i think the nine milligram yeah i just i just want a pouch of cancer

04:36:10.860 just see the tide pod

04:36:14.200 hey guys i need a sarkeesian huh how do you do fellow kids i know it's a turkish air transplant

04:36:27.240 i don't have a norwood too what are you talking about i was there i remember asking you know

04:36:33.160 charlie kirk fun questions you remember me

04:36:35.920 you've been such a you've been such a good pay pig i think you deserve a little treat

04:36:42.440 come here don't you you'll have like the graper war too they'll have like the turkish

04:36:50.700 do you think the turkish air plant will have like a they'll give you cancer in 10 years

04:36:54.860 we'll find out

04:36:56.880 we'll find out

04:36:58.340 it lied to you, it was all good

04:37:00.280 Anita Sarkeesian, Norwood

04:37:02.080 Tide Pods, all of it

04:37:04.280 oh man, just Cancer Max

04:37:06.860 it'll be the astral tweet

04:37:09.120 it's like everything you liked when you were 18

04:37:11.120 was true

04:37:12.120 gripping Charlie Kirk

04:37:14.980 Tide Pods

04:37:15.740 Star God of Akad

04:37:16.900 Milo Yenopoulos, it was cool, all of it

04:37:20.080 you are now dying of cancer

04:37:22.660 it is 2085

04:37:23.780 we could probably get milo on the show no yeah that's probably not a good idea no like there's

04:37:30.080 one person where i'm like don't do it you are you're inviting yourself into a world of humiliating

04:37:36.340 pain if you have anything to do with that guy oh no just and there's no depths that i won't sing

04:37:44.520 to for content

04:37:45.720 I would have Laura Loomer on the show

04:37:51.440 go you look good babe

04:37:52.520 he went to war with Laura

04:37:58.400 I would literally have

04:38:00.360 Lauren Southern on to talk about the trials

04:38:02.500 and tribulations of being a single mother

04:38:04.160 before I have Milo Unanopoulos on this program

04:38:06.460 you never hear about Lauren Southern

04:38:08.380 she's getting fucked over because of the

04:38:10.460 whole like 10 of media thing or

04:38:12.060 she don't hear about her anymore

04:38:14.340 i think you're talking about lauren chen no lauren chen but also lauren um i think she is pulled away

04:38:20.700 from anyone giving her attention and i don't blame her well her friend ashley sinclair is doing good

04:38:27.320 for herself now ah yes you know so there you go you might figure e-girls for rich baby batter now

04:38:37.040 like it's just what a you are living in a cyberpunk dystopia and we're here to commentate on

04:38:43.860 it we're on twitter so you don't have to be the digital archipelago is a collection of memories

04:38:48.340 thoughts memes and schizophrenic k-lines to inform you about how the world is going to hell in a

04:38:53.360 handbasket and the way that michael rupert left this world doesn't seem like a bad option so you

04:38:58.080 two ladies and gentlemen will tune in every tuesday and every friday for the rest of time

04:39:02.060 until kingdom come until i decide to say maybe it's time to leave and jump in front of a moving

04:39:06.500 bus because this is what we do for your dollars for your eyes and for your content because i swear

04:39:12.480 to god we'll be here every week to let you know how awful this place is getting and it's for your

04:39:16.700 entertainment and it's for a great time and it's for my suffering and this is how it's going to be

04:39:22.080 because somehow in some way we're going to watch geo scream and tell you not to research as the

04:39:26.940 baby batter money lands his way into his bank account and he escapes out of wherever he is in

04:39:31.860 fucking canada to make sure that you know that you too somehow some way can make it i will i

04:39:38.440 wasn't the one that said black come dime said it this time i said kingdom come poor choice of words

04:39:43.840 nobody before that never mind never kill me just kill me i was on good i'm seeking made it's over

04:39:51.020 it's done i sent the show guys it's over it's over it was fun we'll read your super chats one

04:39:57.020 last time and it's there's no april fools it's over this was the last one

04:40:03.020 what a disaster this is even worse this is the worst thing we've ever done it's awful

04:40:10.400 what was the worst show we ever did i forget this one a great time guy i had a great time

04:40:16.600 guys i really like i like it too i had a great time yeah this one this one i'm trying to think

04:40:26.160 of like oh we did like kink that was a good one um that was redeemable because the show kink can

04:40:33.140 be broken down by that one character in the first season where he's just like i'm gay i'm jewish

04:40:37.380 oh this is definitely getting paid on china's final archipelago it's not even my fault this

04:40:49.320 time i remember i did the meme i did this meme once called campbots final wording

04:40:56.000 but i forgot to edit one china out of it so it didn't work

04:40:59.600 this game paywall i didn't even say my joke at the start that because it's april

04:41:05.280 1st we're all a member of jape waffen

04:41:07.840 god bless oh my god all right well i'm gonna go read the super chats um i too will convert to

04:41:16.260 islam you're already halfway there

04:41:19.760 this is a real geotrauma episode sean shaper uh sean said the worst super chat he said

04:41:29.600 i sent he sent the worst super chat he said please guys give prude a lot of super chats

04:41:35.060 here because we really fucked over this episode no it's okay it's okay um uh let's go let's go

04:41:42.440 read the ones on youtube first um robert weisenfeld says two-thirds of the canadian

04:41:47.060 triumvirate just need corruptos

04:41:49.160 that's good he's a writer

04:41:52.980 more than is he does he do a live show

04:41:55.040 yeah well no he does podcasts

04:41:56.740 I'm gonna be going on his show next week

04:41:59.000 oh there you go

04:42:00.080 thoughts on the Mormon question

04:42:02.500 very similar to Islam

04:42:04.780 about trying to write yourself into like

04:42:06.760 you know thousands of year old scriptures

04:42:08.560 they have a great dental

04:42:11.020 cartel really good for your teeth

04:42:13.180 and they're really great intelligence

04:42:15.040 agents I don't like them

04:42:17.060 i mean they they're interesting i will say they they're if i had to pick like a pure americana

04:42:24.520 religion it unironically would be more like they really are the american religion in some ways in

04:42:31.080 terms of like using americana mythos yeah absolutely terrifying um uh is this actually

04:42:37.860 the last episode as millennia esoterica boy we'll find out in a week

04:42:42.700 the short-legged mac daddy asks ye's 2016 sacramento speech is always keno

04:42:50.820 i'm not a speech i'm not familiar nor do i want to find out so it can be keno to you but not to

04:42:56.320 me um son of pastor says i'm so glad i didn't miss the show tonight well i wish i did uh hugo

04:43:02.600 for 50 mexican pesos says the great replacement is the second tim hortons opening in my town

04:43:07.260 a roaring trend of

04:43:09.300 Canadianizing the north of Mexico

04:43:11.160 yeah that's good

04:43:12.860 that's good

04:43:14.000 that's a good thing actually

04:43:15.820 that's a good thing

04:43:17.660 I'd rather have probably Mexicans and Indians

04:43:20.640 no you don't want either

04:43:23.840 maybe

04:43:25.020 how is the

04:43:27.100 service industry in Texas with a lot of Mexicans

04:43:30.240 prude? awful

04:43:31.120 oh man

04:43:32.380 next awful

04:43:34.300 it's not just Mexicans anymore

04:43:37.220 it's all awful

04:43:39.500 it's all awful

04:43:41.860 everything is awful

04:43:43.060 I'm that Decemberist song from 2018

04:43:45.140 everything is awful

04:43:46.600 and I will stuff my pockets full of rocks

04:43:49.600 and I will just take my body to the river

04:43:51.660 and drown

04:43:52.180 if only Evola could see the state of the maragoons

04:43:55.120 so true

04:43:55.800 they're black clansmen

04:43:59.040 Obadiah Vandal says I'd buy that for a dollar

04:44:01.920 well you bought it for two so well done

04:44:03.380 I'd buy that for a dollar

04:44:04.820 um and then behold or be hux old uh could show tbh well if you say so

04:44:13.140 uh onto the ones over on oh wait john carter oh john oh yes yes yes hold on hold on john

04:44:19.260 carter sent one prude this is the worst episode worst episode of tda so far

04:44:23.340 124 episodes in and john carter has been right this whole time classic simpsons

04:44:31.100 classic silenial simpsons reference right there and then the most generous super chat of the

04:44:37.160 night so far uh for fifty dollars u.s blood-based thank you incredibly for your generosity uh the

04:44:44.420 small bit that this gets into my into my pockets into my bank account soothes the um the worry i

04:44:51.780 have in the back of my mind that all of these episodes will be played out before my eyes the

04:44:56.240 last judgment and i will be condemned um let's see here uh sam 153 says all canucks should read

04:45:04.340 corruptos's new article on the red instant very prescient and alarming about the changing political

04:45:08.240 landscape in canada oh yeah there you go um uh serbian cat says if we are all kanye can geo say

04:45:15.960 the word geo can always say the word he's always had permission um charlie mackie says good evening

04:45:21.660 i hope you are all well i'm not uh nothing and no one from this age can be allowed into the next

04:45:29.780 may winter last forever and end it all may we all freeze to death like the end of dinosaurs

04:45:35.920 i love that one that mystery girl like he popularized that one dinosaur's gift for the

04:45:42.400 guy like dropping dropping his beer can yeah it's great it's a good one it's a good one

04:45:47.860 just remember when we win it's being called bombay again um sean shaper says this is getting

04:45:57.560 paywalled time to offer threats to dimes every week i go without a new blood satellite episode

04:46:02.140 the closer i go to sending dimes kaczynski special oh my gosh you're gonna trun him out

04:46:07.960 what's wrong with you i don't believe that i remember borzoi had a good deconstruction of

04:46:14.760 okay geo i was trying to cover the fact that he was threatening him with actual physical

04:46:19.520 violence for the sake of like no i know i got the joke

04:46:22.960 i can tell he's like visibly angry now oh i'm literally just sitting here just tired

04:46:33.260 i'm so well you know what's funny prude is that like this is what i felt when times came on like

04:46:38.960 oh man i'm gonna spend three hours editing this fucking shit oh i'm just not gonna

04:46:44.560 monetize this episode i'm just don't edit it no one wants you to it's fun everyone i put the

04:46:50.540 unedited episode behind my paywall for the channel i put it on odyssey i got and and just imagine

04:46:57.160 prude there head in his hand and i'm looking at the chat oh we didn't get to uh king anus

04:47:02.280 he's got a comment here he's got a great comment he reminds me of the solar

04:47:07.340 Don't you know how I stumbled on this two hours?

04:47:10.040 Which one by King Anus?

04:47:12.580 All Indians are

04:47:13.820 Tim Hortons, that's true.

04:47:15.940 John Birch wasn't no Mormon.

04:47:19.420 Was he a Mormon? I'm going to be so disappointed.

04:47:22.000 No, he wasn't.

04:47:22.900 Okay.

04:47:26.600 I like how the John Birch Society

04:47:28.580 has decided to

04:47:30.420 just essentially

04:47:35.140 uh become uh like a right-wing twitter poster

04:47:40.780 oh no he was raised uh as a fundamentalist baptist john birch yeah

04:47:50.980 geo i was trying to avoid saying death threats live on stream oh yeah i know

04:47:56.080 no no i was just saying that like a lot of people had the thing that like they said that

04:48:02.320 Ted Kaczynski was trying to like you know he was confused about his gender I remember Borzoi did

04:48:08.500 this thread about how that was like CIA propaganda yeah probably probably it's not like he wasn't an

04:48:17.440 incredibly unwell psyoped individual yeah of course yeah yeah Sean Schaefer again says uh

04:48:26.580 the polls are sending this one to the members only zone no I'm just not going to monetize it

04:48:31.560 i'll just put this one up on here i would recommend you paywall true no

04:48:38.060 so you got a bunch of comments from here michael has or just no

04:48:44.040 just no i mean i don't know we didn't say that some like that all right ladies and gentlemen

04:48:51.380 this has been an interesting episode and it's a great way to end this show on its last and final

04:48:57.140 note of my exhaustion for 124 episodes i have been there as someone who suffers and has become

04:49:03.440 the meme and the whipping post of this entire show for the sake of entertainment it's been a

04:49:08.120 great two years and some change it's been a lot of fun it's been a great april fool's day it's

04:49:13.500 been a hell of a documentary to watch today while i was at work working away and putting this on my

04:49:16.960 headphones on the second monitor um dimes thank you so much for coming on do you have anything

04:49:20.900 that you would like to shill to the audience for one last time on the show oh no just blood

04:49:25.140 satellite.ca uh that's the site to get all extras

04:49:28.580 big ben i appreciate the ten dollars but i cannot put that up on stream for obvious reasons

04:49:35.440 yeah so i i appreciate the the the hearty uh desire uh to do it there it's just the gamer word

04:49:44.340 yeah it's just the gamer word and truly gamers are the most depressed minority let that be my

04:49:49.620 final message to you all um the gamers are the most depressed minority geo do you have anything

04:49:55.460 that you want to add yeah i i was on um well i recorded another one with cat uh uh what's it

04:50:04.040 called the computer but i was on uh the good old boys recently we talked about canada we talked

04:50:10.720 about ai slop it was a great episode i liked it it was good yeah it was nice uh and then pac-man

04:50:18.260 respecter just says gio panachetti we coming for you and then he drops the gamer word at the end

04:50:22.500 gamer with the hard r that's true yeah machia valley sucks to go i'm not putting that one up

04:50:33.520 on stream either for obvious reasons for god's sake well i have an article called the coming

04:50:39.000 identity bubble that is up on sub stack i will narrate it and put it up on youtube i have a few

04:50:43.300 things i need to record and narrate as video essays before i uh take a couple weeks off for

04:50:48.900 holy week and the rest so with that being said ladies and gentlemen um we'll see you all well

04:50:54.900 never actually this is the last episode of the ditch large apelago so um have fun uh we'll see

04:51:01.540 you i guess never bye everyone

04:51:03.480 Hey baby, I hear the blues are calling

04:51:07.500 Toss salads and scrambled eggs

04:51:10.340 And maybe I seem a bit confused

04:51:14.900 Yeah, maybe, but I got you, Peg

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