Blood Satellite - January 31, 2025


Mozart the Ripper, How to Impregnate a Woman from Low Earth Orbit?


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Length

4 hours and 7 minutes

Words per minute

180.57

Word count

44,717

Sentence count

961

Harmful content

Misogyny

66

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Toxicity

486

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Transcript

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Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be 0.98
00:00:07.720 blood satellite big day yeah big uh big big fucking day big big big day one of the biggest 0.98
00:00:25.340 too yeah it's been a rough couple weeks for black people maybe we start with that i want to start 0.98
00:00:34.300 because i don't want this to get buried we need to get it have you heard about the african gentleman
00:00:40.500 who was caught gooning in a cafe i love i love that this isn't like a mark on a black society
00:00:50.100 I guess it is, technically.
00:00:51.800 Every bit of news I've read about this 0.97
00:00:53.960 is being told to me from black people. 0.86
00:00:56.160 I tried to search the headline, right?
00:00:57.980 And I'm not looking for the New York Times,
00:01:00.840 but maybe Politico has something.
00:01:03.360 No, I had to get this from face-to-face Africa
00:01:08.180 and black commentators online.
00:01:10.440 So this is reverberating to the black community.
00:01:14.040 They feel they must answer.
00:01:15.720 What are we talking about?
00:01:17.120 We're talking about, here's one title here.
00:01:19.060 man unalives himself
00:01:21.280 after getting exposed
00:01:22.520 his name is Nautica Malone
00:01:25.220 is this man's name Nautica
00:01:27.540 no
00:01:28.880 damn after the pants 1.00
00:01:31.520 after the god 1.00
00:01:33.520 dang pants 0.85
00:01:34.520 they must have named the pants after something else
00:01:37.600 maybe they named the pants after him
00:01:39.180 which is ironic given what happened
00:01:41.700 yeah
00:01:42.380 he's got his goon pants on
00:01:45.600 have you seen the video
00:01:47.620 yeah 0.98
00:01:48.380 have you actually seen the video of of the act no i saw some other shit i didn't did he videotape 0.97
00:01:55.400 himself doing it so here's the story you might have heard from the memosphere black guy got 0.99
00:02:01.380 caught gooning in his car blew his fucking brains out right we say a man took his own life after 0.99
00:02:08.060 getting caught committing a sex crime in the drive-thru of a coffee shop in tempe and video 0.99
00:02:13.860 of him was posted online hi how are you good have you been here before uh yeah sir you need to leave
00:02:22.020 unacceptable unacceptable call 9-1-1 of course hilarious but you didn't know that there's
00:02:30.180 actually video of this no way so what had happened and i saw this and it's a bit different than what
00:02:36.260 you're expecting so it's from the perspective it's this place called bikini beans coffee
00:02:42.740 So from the looks of it, this is like a drive through cafe where the women are in bikinis and they're just leveraging sex appeal. 1.00
00:02:49.800 Right. So what happens is the woman, the barista at the fucking counter, who's like this guy's in his car, he pulls up. 0.99
00:02:58.300 She's got her camera ready. Right. So that tells me that this was on purpose and this has happened before. 0.99
00:03:06.060 this guy pulls up black guy he's looking mighty regular right he's like hey hey what's up he's
00:03:13.800 smiling right she's like you have you been here before he's like yeah and she kind of cranes the
00:03:18.880 camera over not wearing pants this man just nude from the waist down which is which is way funnier 0.99
00:03:26.980 because if he just had his dick out you know who hasn't been caught with their dick out this man 0.99
00:03:31.960 he had to go out take his pants off and then go out to the car there was a process here there's 1.00
00:03:37.220 no way he's wrestling his pants off in the car no no no he got out of the car he took his pants off
00:03:43.540 he's standing there in front of christ almighty that's back in the car nude because i didn't see
00:03:50.220 pants anywhere else he must have folded them put them in the back that's commitment you think he
00:03:54.440 folded them really that that's an expert at what he was doing and then she she's got him on camera
00:03:59.120 he sees it he spooked he drives off and uh shortly after let me just read they got a suicide note
00:04:05.540 from him this is so i i shouldn't be laughing at this it's premeditated goonicide premeditated
00:04:12.100 this is the first goonicide that's what people really want to tune in for this is the first
00:04:17.780 suicide by gooning on record i can't believe it's the first ever it's like with snuff films
00:04:23.120 you're going to tell me that's never happened in the 70s okay cops said the suicide note read and
00:04:31.080 i'm trusting face-to-face africa that they got the real scoop here it says i apologize i love
00:04:36.960 you queen this is a married man i made a mistake and i don't think i'll be able to face you and 0.97
00:04:42.200 the babies he had children i don't know why i drove through like that my mental has been fucked
00:04:49.320 up i'm not a monster i apologize i love you forever if i'm in critical condition please pull 0.94
00:04:54.440 the plug i'm sorry like i'm gonna kill myself if i survive make sure to kill me i just i can't
00:05:01.260 first you know let let it be said that for most of us if we're caught whacking off in the car even 0.97
00:05:09.500 we would own it of course you know now it's your problem yeah yeah yeah you're in you guess what
00:05:16.400 you just wandered in to the gravitational pull of this incident and you're in this with me now
00:05:22.180 i might even make it like a lifestyle like i'd bring it up all the time but here's the thing
00:05:29.580 so it's not even that he was a gooner it's that he was a flasher this is a guy this was all a
00:05:34.500 thing he was doing he wanted to go this and he wanted to be seen like that right yeah yeah but
00:05:38.540 he's a flasher but then he's like i got caught and the shame of getting caught was enough to
00:05:43.500 kill myself was you're not really a flasher then because the whole point of flashing is
00:05:46.540 that people see you so you're like the world's worst flasher well here's the thing the glory
00:05:53.500 days of being a flasher i have to assume were like the 80s and 90s before camera phones were
00:05:59.120 ubiquitous right because you want to be able to flash and no one's got you on record now
00:06:04.400 all these flashers the guys in the tan trench coats i guess i don't understand flashers i would
00:06:10.060 think that cell phones would make flash i guess you're right because they're gone now i would
00:06:13.360 think if i were to guess in the 80s i'd be like ah cell phones flashing is gonna be everybody's
00:06:17.880 gonna be you're gonna have flashing competitions yeah it's like in a sense we do but she takes out 0.79
00:06:22.300 of now your your dick's up on time square you know tv screen and you're cheering you're a hero 0.99
00:06:28.240 your biggest dick flasher look look at what only fans hoes can get away with and then 1.00
00:06:36.040 ham and egg or flashers 1.00
00:06:38.460 can't even
00:06:40.080 not commit suicide.
00:06:42.760 What is this if not male-only
00:06:44.620 thing? What have they done to us? I shouldn't say
00:06:46.460 us, but you know what I mean.
00:06:48.400 Like I said, this is sending
00:06:50.260 shockwaves to the black community, which tells me
00:06:52.420 this is relevant 0.91
00:06:54.560 to them.
00:06:56.440 This would not be like, we need
00:06:58.540 to talk about this. Can you believe
00:07:00.060 they got one of us?
00:07:02.180 This guy's just a deviant. 1.00
00:07:04.220 right he's just a diva he wants to be jerking off and making ladies uncomfortable so that guy 1.00
00:07:09.020 eventually becomes a predator he probably becomes a rapist but just seeing his face like i said he 1.00
00:07:15.140 looks mad regular and so again he's like oh i don't know to his wife i don't know what drove me
00:07:21.100 to this i'm like yeah well i mean it's not just a one-off thing of course that's the cope that
00:07:26.260 you write to your wife because you don't have to explain it further because you're about to die
00:07:29.480 yeah and let me just say this i don't want this incident to besmirch the good name of gooning 0.94
00:07:35.480 this man was not a gooner he was a flash it can it can tarnish you know blacks if they want to
00:07:42.800 close ranks around them that's fine but let's not let's not throw gooning out with the bathwater
00:07:48.340 that's what i'm saying we're going to get to this way later in the episode but this is how we're
00:07:52.360 teeing it up was he a serial killer or was he a contract killer those are two very different 0.99
00:07:59.040 things now this man he had his dick out in public that's like seven different things and it's 0.98
00:08:05.280 important to get it right what time of day was it it was the middle of the day just so this is 0.99
00:08:13.900 here's the thing he was sunning his balls it was like a uh what is it logo daedalus whoever the 1.00
00:08:20.780 fuck sons their balls is driving around fucking nude from the waist down fucking jacking off in 1.00
00:08:30.240 the car tell everyone it's faustian yes you know what i don't i'm not even going to correct you 1.00
00:08:37.740 we're going with that someone clip that and ask him why you go to him and you say i get it but why
00:08:48.280 now there's another thing i want to talk about and we could really pitch set up camp here if we
00:08:56.220 want to but i don't want to talk about because it's an ongoing thing um i'll just come out and
00:09:02.740 say it i we're closing on a house yeah nigga hooray yes do you get hoorays in the chat
00:09:13.420 cool absolutely where's the first time i've done it everyone else in the chat's like oh
00:09:18.560 congratulations welcome to the club i don't like that i don't like being i don't like knowing that
00:09:22.440 people have lived in houses before me right now yeah we're gonna print like contextually within
00:09:27.760 the within the you know the show you know lore this is the first house this is the show house 0.98
00:09:34.980 and you don't we don't want to hear about your fucking house okay this is the house it's dimes 0.93
00:09:39.740 house nobody else has had a house up till this point that's canon because everyone needs to be 0.99
00:09:44.620 saying dimes what's it like having a house and tell us you because i just did a thing now i'm
00:09:53.400 the expert on it and now i'm gonna fill you in it's i hesitate to call it a dream house because
00:10:00.420 it sounds like barbie dream house it sounds like a pink mansion and it's not that but i mean dream
00:10:06.680 dream isn't a compromise between myself and my wife that's really what you're looking for in a
00:10:11.360 house because it's a lot like your house where you're in right now and i like your house i like
00:10:16.400 that style of house it's an older house like 100 years old but this one was recently renovated all
00:10:22.740 the inside but um we were in a position like a lot of people where we've been looking for a house
00:10:28.700 for like years at this point and the market was so bad in everywhere throughout canada but
00:10:34.200 especially in ontario you're looking and you're seeing ridiculous prices you're seeing townhouses
00:10:39.820 that where i'm at townhouses going for like seven hundred thousand dollars that was at the peak a
00:10:44.600 couple years ago they've come down since then but still way inflated but you also think that you
00:10:50.860 have an idea of the house you'd like a house that fits your character and you know what this will
00:10:56.620 sound pretentious i get it but if we ended up with one of those suburban houses we we have a friend
00:11:03.700 former friend who lives in a house like that yeah you know it's just kind of a it's not a not not a
00:11:09.260 bad house but it just doesn't seem like it has any character it's nice nicely sized two-car 0.99
00:11:14.360 it is a bad house by the way i hope he's fucking listening it's a horrible damn son where'd you 0.99
00:11:18.360 find because it's not a it's not nicely sized it's a bungalow but the internal ceiling height 0.99
00:11:24.540 in the single compound living room kitchen is like 20 feet so you're heating and ventilating
00:11:30.240 all of that for no fucking reason so it's designed to look like a normal home from the outside but 0.99
00:11:35.160 it's like a 1300 square foot bungalow just weirdly ceilinged it is arguably one of the dumbest 0.99
00:11:42.380 fucking like you know cookie cutter house designs i have ever seen and i shouldn't and i would like 0.98
00:11:48.400 to go on and rip on how bad it is but they don't even build those anymore because now almost all 0.99
00:11:53.780 they build in canadian suburbs are townhouses so at least the at least he has a freehold house
00:11:59.320 and that's the thing like what we when you say house what do we look for like i'd like a bit
00:12:03.680 of property like a bit of yard which is what this has it's got a nicely sized yard so i can get a
00:12:08.740 greenhouse going i can get a smoker going right but those are rare and everyone knows when they
00:12:12.960 talk about the affordable housing crisis oh what they need is more homes quote unquote homes well
00:12:18.820 they're not really saying houses plus land they're hoping you don't notice that these are going to be
00:12:23.460 glorified tiny homes like you see these tours of some of these neighborhoods oh look look at these
00:12:27.880 new developments and they're like strangely narrow and they're they technically are freehold homes
00:12:34.140 because they have like 15 centimeters of space between the houses but i'm like it might as well
00:12:39.920 be townhouses i would hear there's only one development that actually has freeholds every
00:12:43.780 other development is um is townhouses and i don't know if you saw but in our hometown if you've been
00:12:49.660 back there lately which is tiny by the way if you're any people don't know we essentially were
00:12:53.040 raised in like a little village suburb of another city there's nothing there it is so low density 0.95
00:12:58.060 it's mostly marsh they just they're building a fucking apartment tower like a six-floor apartment 0.96
00:13:03.380 tower and it's like there's nothing here what are you doing i'm seeing it's all it's all like 0.97
00:13:09.360 weird places it's like pine bog and marsh and and there's nothing just fucking flatten the land and
00:13:14.800 build a normal fucking house but they're building apartment buildings so yeah like you said i've 0.74
00:13:19.520 been seeing apartment buildings go up in odd places just like almost in a dystopian chernobyl 0.99
00:13:26.580 set you go through a marshland and there's just this solitary apartment complex brutalist apartment
00:13:33.280 complex and it's that and then they just build a road to it but there's nothing around it it is
00:13:38.360 i know you are very passionate about 15-minute cities like this is even for me that's not what
00:13:44.780 it is though no that is i'm saying like this is the opposite of a 15-minute city it's like
00:13:48.900 exactly there's literally nothing it's it's far away from even other roads yeah yeah it's like
00:13:54.580 when saudi i watched this documentary about saudi arabia and everyone looks at it from 10 000 feet
00:13:59.940 and it's got those islands that they made right they're in the shape of palm trees and like well
00:14:05.800 how do they build that they built them very stupidly and then if you look at it it's it's
00:14:11.080 every frond of those palm trees is just cookie cutter houses and there's just one eight lane 0.97
00:14:17.740 highway connecting the right up the middle of it like it's it's not intuitively designed and
00:14:22.480 there's one there is public transit but there's only one stop and it's like at the beginning of
00:14:27.120 it and at the end so you can take a train to the very top where nothing's there like what's the
00:14:32.780 it it's like sim city yeah like if you were just like fucking around yeah yeah which is that is
00:14:39.200 actually what it is though it literally is like the the sound royal family playing sim city and 0.95
00:14:44.380 just dropping shit on a map and they're doing it here it's like we need uh we need a building so
00:14:48.460 where can we get it for chief there by that in like a swamp a canadian swamp but back to the 0.97
00:14:55.540 house this is why it's an older house um it was renovated on the inside we go in we've been
00:15:01.860 watching this house go down in price for a year maybe longer um because the way they do it you
00:15:10.660 know you go on zillow and you can see the listing history the trick that they do at least here
00:15:14.540 is they'll just take the listing down and then relist it so you can't see the devaluation over
00:15:21.980 time unless you've just been checking it like a psycho like us and you're like wait i remember
00:15:28.260 this being seven hundred thousand dollars am i crazy is it this one and then now it's five
00:15:35.140 you know i mean like i'm seeing houses go down by hundreds of thousands of dollars now not
00:15:41.000 everywhere though not in urban areas not in big cities you know condos are probably always going
00:15:46.360 to be what they're worth i guess you know that's they run by different rules but in the rural areas
00:15:51.480 in towns in villages you're seeing them start to go down especially if they're flippers because
00:15:58.740 everyone got drunk with power there was a boom of everyone thinking that oh i can just buy it 0.94
00:16:05.100 a box of shit add some amenities add some nice fixtures hey look at that a new chrome fridge 0.99
00:16:13.420 you know like a lot of people are really drawn in by that they're drawn in by i know you hate 0.99
00:16:17.680 this style but that's sort of millennial gray nice black right angles black and white high
00:16:25.060 contrast stuff looks nice in a photo and you crank the contrast up on that photo you put the
00:16:31.060 camera to like 0.8 zoom so it just inflates the size of everything they thought that they could
00:16:36.260 buy something for three hundred thousand dollars which is already two i then then sell it for seven
00:16:41.960 or eight you know and they started taking out loans everyone thought they could become a tycoon
00:16:46.780 and now the music has stopped on that again not everywhere but in a lot of these places and that
00:16:53.180 is what happened here and you know we just were closing the deal and we just as of today got the
00:17:00.160 home inspector come back we'll get to that in a second but what this is i know we went to three
00:17:05.800 houses you know that weekend and we closed fast we uh and i thought it was going to take weeks
00:17:11.720 and weeks man because i never went through pre-approval before and i'm saying this to let
00:17:15.400 people know how i did it maybe it's not applicable to americans maybe it's not applicable to everyone 0.96
00:17:20.520 who's like getting a condo or something but the reason i say this because i didn't know this shit
00:17:24.820 and i know there's people looking for houses right now and i think this you can learn what 0.95
00:17:30.020 i learned because i went into this watching all kinds of people like i i just been binging two
00:17:36.660 things one nick rochefort videos and two reruns of succession i was getting myself into a real deal
00:17:45.860 state of mind i was coming in like a certified asshole but i i there's a lot of stuff i could 0.98
00:17:52.340 have done a lot of stuff i could have said that i didn't do but i was primed like a fucking typhoon 0.98
00:17:58.420 of jargon and slang just i i was i didn't break out what i wanted to break out which is going 0.95
00:18:04.920 through and saying oh that's kind of fucked up it's like no it's not oh does your house look 0.97
00:18:08.340 like that is that how you live your crown modem is all fucking scuffed yeah i didn't think so 0.97
00:18:14.040 i i had so much i had so many lines prepared i didn't do it but um anyway so we get the house 0.79
00:18:21.400 and uh it's everything that we want there's there's good things there's bad things right
00:18:25.840 things that we like old house basement is a serial killer den it's but all these old houses are just
00:18:33.980 rock and dust and support beams and there's you know what you can't do anything with it you're
00:18:40.120 thinking oh can i it's storage it's storage like you're thinking it's low ceiling but i'm thinking 0.77
00:18:44.860 like is this anything can i put up some insulation now fuck it whatever but it is storage um but 0.87
00:18:50.820 some people don't like that you got to go in thinking i like this because maybe i know what 0.98
00:18:55.540 i'm talking about what does the young couple think here's what the young couple thinks about
00:18:59.940 a hundred year old house on a piece of property oh the closets are too small there's no walk-in 1.00
00:19:05.060 closet women hate that my wife doesn't love it but she's smart she doesn't give it she's like 0.99
00:19:11.300 i can we'll figure that out because i go in this house and it doesn't creak there's no creaking 0.98
00:19:17.540 in a hundred year old house that's fucking wild you don't like the creeks you pay extra for that 0.96
00:19:22.140 i love the creeks well because i like the creeks when i do them i don't like creeks 0.97
00:19:28.740 when i'm in bed with my my not my my nightcap this is real story i don't think people realize
00:19:34.740 i you know the thing when you're a child at night you're afraid of monsters and spooky things when 0.98
00:19:40.100 you're an adult at night in a rural area especially in cornfields with fucking guatemalans all over 0.98
00:19:44.320 the place you're afraid of home invaders the thing i love guatemalans in the cornfields 1.00
00:19:48.280 growing around grew up around here too you know what it's like around harvard it's fucking 0.98
00:19:52.060 it's insanity and they walk by and they leer at my chickens all the time but uh so anyways you 0.95
00:19:57.560 know in this house i've lived here long enough now i know every creek i can tell laying in my
00:20:02.900 bed when there's a creek i know who is doing what in the house so if somebody's coming in from the
00:20:07.240 back where the front door coming up the stairs moving in one of the rooms i can hear it because 0.92
00:20:11.280 i know the exact fucking sound that it makes you can't sneak up on me you'd have to crawl up the 1.00
00:20:15.520 fucking walls because i don't recognize those noises it's your it's your your your fucking 1.00
00:20:19.880 redneck security system yeah that's right that's right is there any creaks that would cause you 1.00
00:20:25.320 dread has there been an odd creek that you you weren't prepared for yeah i mean look there have
00:20:31.060 been times when i because i i keep a weapon in my room and i'll go down and kind of patrol the
00:20:34.920 house a bit if i hear but if i hear a creek on the stairs while i'm sleeping then i go to check
00:20:38.640 if it's one of the girls, but they usually don't
00:20:40.500 because they're afraid of the dark and the house is pitch black.
00:20:43.020 So if I hear a creak on the stairs, the thing is
00:20:44.700 one of my cats is fat enough that sometimes
00:20:46.720 he will actually cause the stairs to creak
00:20:48.880 if he goes on it.
00:20:50.720 It would be funny if there was just a fed
00:20:52.920 creeping up your stairs, just a man in black
00:20:54.960 with shades in the dark. 0.99
00:20:56.840 And a huge hat, yeah, that would suck.
00:20:59.500 But there's
00:21:01.020 things we liked about the house, things that might not
00:21:02.980 seem obvious to people, young people
00:21:04.760 who are going to the open house. 0.93
00:21:06.440 uh new furnace new windows new ac in an old house that's fucking rare new roof um they redid 0.99
00:21:15.720 you know new roof beautiful yeah like all the shit that matters all the shit where i've gone 0.99
00:21:20.620 to houses before i'm like oh yeah the roof sucks like okay what's that gonna cost you said new 0.99
00:21:23.940 septic too eh yep new septic it's on a septic tank some people don't like that i don't give a 0.97
00:21:28.860 shit but it's also new and that's the thing though you're not gonna it's like oh it's on a septic 0.98
00:21:33.040 tank okay have fun living in the in a fucking row house because if you want to live out there 1.00
00:21:37.000 you want to have an acre you're on a septic tank that's just how it is you know like i'm on a well 0.99
00:21:41.500 but i i don't care i'll be loudly live on a well and be able to shoot out my backyard not hit
00:21:45.960 another house if i'm not on a well if we were on a well i wouldn't care because one of my clients 0.96
00:21:51.880 like what fuck it whatever also one of my clients in the past was a well hydrofracking company so 0.99
00:21:57.960 i'm like i know a lot about wells weirdly also we're not on the water but by the water so fuck 1.00
00:22:04.680 your septic tank like that that's the trade-off right you're always looking for trade-offs like 1.00
00:22:08.640 what's important to you to me it's not like what happened to my sister you move in and your fucking 0.99
00:22:14.280 furnace explodes it's kind of over which happened to her they were told that too and they thought 0.92
00:22:21.860 oh i can get another year out of this furnace based on what based on what oh it's just you're
00:22:27.580 you're talking about your sister yeah she got a house oh but she's alive still yeah well i guess
00:22:33.500 yes she survived it there i heard there was a boom and there was something that happened with
00:22:39.180 the furnace still with us i was gonna say my condolences if she survived the i don't want
00:22:43.900 condolences if she had passed from a furnace in inferno i was like my condolences because she
00:22:48.440 survived you should have said she was one of the best just a lie no but she's you hear she blew up
00:22:57.500 at first, let's say, we wish her well.
00:23:01.700 We wish you the best
00:23:03.400 in your next endeavors
00:23:05.500 or whatever. She's being relieved.
00:23:08.180 If a loved one dies,
00:23:09.620 what you say to them is calendar year.
00:23:15.640 Let them know. Don't let them know
00:23:17.460 you're thinking about them. Just let them know you're thinking.
00:23:23.080 But anyway, I don't want to just keep going on about those
00:23:25.140 but the process of it
00:23:27.420 was we moved faster than I was used to because you hear about pre-approval for a mortgage
00:23:34.300 even if it's within your range which it was but it's like oh my god what's it going to take like
00:23:39.060 a week a month we did it in a couple of days that is possible because in the back of my mind
00:23:45.400 I'm not trying to fall in love with this house but I'm like I don't think there's any other offers
00:23:50.660 but in the back of my mind I'm thinking I'm not really competing against regular people
00:23:57.140 or young couples or whoever i'm competing against property developers i'm competing against
00:24:02.180 some conglomerate who wants to buy this place and rent it out which is what every that's the
00:24:07.740 payday they're looking for because i know for a fact the people who were selling this house
00:24:11.980 are flippers just two people who did what i just described they got in when they thought they could
00:24:17.500 be tycoons put a lot of money in it and they watched that profit wither away and so they were 0.97
00:24:23.180 they wanted to sell fast and i'm thinking you know what what i don't want is some fucking 0.94
00:24:28.160 outsider coming and buying it up paying them over asking because you know they can do that 0.97
00:24:33.240 and saying oh well because the location of this house could be used for commercial development
00:24:38.840 they just bulldoze the house they could build some other big thing there right so that's that's
00:24:45.160 where my paranoia was coming from and i think that's the paranoia everyone feels because
00:24:48.540 if you look around like my
00:24:50.380 the neighborhood that
00:24:52.700 my grandmother
00:24:53.700 spent so much of her life
00:24:56.320 you know I would go over there that whole neighborhood
00:24:58.480 when I was growing up she 0.98
00:25:00.660 sold her house a lot of them retired 0.98
00:25:02.640 sold their houses and then
00:25:04.620 just these conglomerates moved in bought 0.99
00:25:06.580 the houses now the entire fucking 0.99
00:25:08.460 streets rentals it's rentals 0.98
00:25:10.660 just where like no one owns the house
00:25:12.780 on this street where
00:25:14.560 previously everyone owned the house
00:25:16.720 and raised families there and their grandchildren 0.95
00:25:18.520 of that so like that entire way of life is just fucking gone and it's just these these corporations 0.98
00:25:23.720 buying up the houses and like the place i live now this townhouse is everyone rents no one fucking 0.80
00:25:29.920 owns a house here they just get bought up by i don't know some property development company and 0.93
00:25:34.200 now everyone fucking rents and they could probably afford it or they could if they if they weren't
00:25:37.680 driving the price up on everything anyway so in the back of my mind i'm like okay i kind of need 0.97
00:25:42.100 to be a dick about this so i am going in i don't like that that's fucking weird you know hey i like 0.99
00:25:47.760 but fuck you in so many words so we got it and then the process afterward is what gets you you 1.00
00:25:57.720 know after you're dealing with a mortgage broker you're dealing with a real estate agent you're 1.00
00:26:01.440 going back and forth we got the house under asking as well for that reason like here's here's what i
00:26:07.400 think it's worth and i know you want to sell and here the trick is that you can offer a contingency
00:26:13.660 which is or contingency window which is like you make the offer now i get 30 days 60 days or 90
00:26:20.200 days to find that's what i'm going to send in the house inspector the home inspector maybe got to do
00:26:25.800 for whatever reason right so there's a lot of people who do the 90 day contingency i said you
00:26:30.380 know i just want 30 days you want to get this done now you want to get the deal done now i know you
00:26:34.440 want to get rid of this but here's what's going to be it's going to be under asking but it's going
00:26:37.900 to be fast i know you want fast i know you want to get the money and do your next harebrained 0.95
00:26:42.360 fucking scheme that you lose a bunch of money on 0.99
00:26:44.540 because I know what you bought this house for 1.00
00:26:46.360 and I know you're maybe making
00:26:48.320 30 grand on this deal
00:26:49.600 based on what I see here that's new
00:26:52.440 and how long it's been on the market and how long you've been paying 0.99
00:26:54.400 mortgage on a vacant fucking 0.99
00:26:56.420 lot 1.00
00:26:56.820 so I know that, do you want to move fast?
00:27:00.120 okay so do I, because I actually do want to move fast
00:27:02.420 because I want to get out of this place
00:27:03.720 like anyway, I'm just in a mood
00:27:06.200 I just want to have a place, I'm old enough 1.00
00:27:08.160 this is fucking stupid, you have an excuse 1.00
00:27:10.300 you fled China 1.00
00:27:12.060 you fled a communist country
00:27:13.860 and you gotta rebuild your life over here
00:27:16.280 I don't have an excuse 0.99
00:27:17.620 I don't have an excuse for why my life is so fucked up 0.99
00:27:20.240 I need this 0.99
00:27:23.720 it's because you keep giving
00:27:26.480 you keep giving
00:27:27.780 on the show
00:27:29.000 you just keep pouring yourself out
00:27:31.120 you never get anything back
00:27:32.440 a man can crucify himself only so much
00:27:36.160 look 0.99
00:27:37.120 you think that black gooner story 1.00
00:27:39.660 just falls out of the fucking sky 1.00
00:27:41.460 you paid thousands of dollars for that scoop 0.99
00:27:44.580 I paid thousands of dollars for that link
00:27:47.920 to Africa to Africa
00:27:49.620 but anyway I just say this because I want people to know
00:27:52.860 if they don't know
00:27:53.660 that after the deal is made 0.99
00:27:55.560 there's so much other bullshit that happens afterwards 0.98
00:27:58.000 because as of today 0.99
00:27:59.520 the home inspector went in
00:28:01.780 and here's a trick
00:28:03.520 home inspectors 0.99
00:28:04.680 a lot of them are bullshit 1.00
00:28:06.020 any motherfucker can go get a home inspector license 1.00
00:28:10.560 you take a weekend course and you're a home inspector what helps is if you're a home inspector 0.99
00:28:16.440 who's also a licensed electrician or plumber or whatever and here's a trick that people do that
00:28:22.400 we're going to kind of do the home inspector we got was also an electrician so we we got that
00:28:27.280 together but what you could also do is get a plumber get an engineer if you want pay them by
00:28:32.780 the hour you know have them come in have a look at the foundation right but you know he comes back
00:28:38.780 And there's a list of things that are kind of wrong with the house.
00:28:41.620 Now, my wife sees that.
00:28:43.380 And I can hear her looking at her computer going, oh, my God. 0.99
00:28:45.980 Oh, my God.
00:28:47.780 Oh, my God.
00:28:48.920 And I'm looking like, okay, look, it just says the siding is kind of off at the top. 1.00
00:28:54.040 And I'm full of shit, of course. 0.99
00:28:56.640 I don't know what I'm talking about. 1.00
00:28:57.220 But keep that energy and show that energy to the seller. 0.99
00:29:01.660 I'm saying, in my mind, I'm saying, we just get some fucking cocking and fix that. 0.98
00:29:05.620 Like, I don't know what I'm talking about. 0.99
00:29:07.320 but there must be a foam we can use to fix this right it's like little things it's like the guy
00:29:12.960 said the deck was built kind of amateurishly and i'm like okay fine is it gonna fall down no like
00:29:19.800 he's got he's got photos of like deck's fucking fine okay yeah um there's some problems with the
00:29:24.800 electrical old house fine okay we'll take that to them um but it's nothing serious but then there's 0.97
00:29:30.020 like a lot of aesthetic shit where it's like you know the foundation's fine that's all you give a 0.97
00:29:35.640 shit about look at crack foundation look at support beams that's all fine but it's like oh 0.98
00:29:40.700 we went to the attic and the attic insulation was installed in a sort of improper way like a guy just 0.98
00:29:46.820 did it oh is the insulation is it good does it work yeah but it's kind of sloppy okay i don't
00:29:52.560 i don't fucking care because every answer to that's going to be like you should call
00:29:57.080 an attic insulation expert like everything is like okay this is you know the doorknobs are 0.98
00:30:03.200 kind of a jar you should uh find a doorknob straightener contractor i'm like is there one
00:30:08.580 guy i can hire just can i do this a lot it sounds like i could do a lot of this you know what i mean
00:30:13.760 unless is the house gonna fall down is shit gonna pour out of the walls is there black mold 0.99
00:30:19.280 all you all you really give a shit about is is there fucking black mold is there corpses on the 1.00
00:30:25.300 property in the attic is there a alive or dead girl in the attic no then i'm fine in fact fuck 1.00
00:30:32.540 foundation i just want to know if there's a girl in the attic but you know here's the other here's 0.98
00:30:37.500 the big thing that i wanted to leave people with because i think a lot of people are going to run
00:30:42.060 into this it's that you know both my wife and i we have sort of a regular incomes we're self-employed
00:30:46.700 we run our own businesses my wife contracts with an organization works remotely but it's in the
00:30:52.540 united states and so you know it's a regular salary job however to the government of canada
00:30:59.820 that reads as contractor you might as well be a freelancer so unless you have a regular nine
00:31:05.820 to five job in canada they're going to rake you over the coals and that's what happened to us
00:31:10.240 so typically if you're going for a mortgage which most people are you're going to be looking at like
00:31:15.760 a two you have to show your income for two years right should be easy even if you're self-employed
00:31:21.600 but if you're self-employed they want to see three years it's just little things like that
00:31:26.580 the entire step, every step of the way, everything's a little harder because it doesn't
00:31:33.100 matter how much money you make. That's one thing I noticed because going into this, I thought,
00:31:38.460 okay, we've got sort of a regular jobs. We have good money. We have savings. We have got the
00:31:43.580 down payment and everything, but maybe we can make a bigger down payment. That doesn't even
00:31:47.860 really matter that much. It's very difficult to throw money at this problem if the loan,
00:31:54.160 if the lender thinks you're kind of a liability or if like or you make a lot of money but you
00:31:59.560 haven't been there long enough another thing that they recommend that clear all your debt
00:32:04.440 does you know student debt car debt yeah but like credit card debt and you think that might be
00:32:10.060 frivolous but like if you just have zero credit card debt you might get approved for like a hundred 0.98
00:32:14.780 thousand dollars more like dumb little shit like that really matters in this um but also pay close 0.99
00:32:21.220 attention to what your mortgage payments are going to be. And we purposefully tried to get 0.99
00:32:25.360 within the range of if the rates go back up to 8%, we won't be fucked. Because unlike some places in 0.97
00:32:33.020 America, we don't get locked in at the same rate for the entire duration of like 20 or 30 years,
00:32:39.440 right? We get, or the amortization period, we might get five years of fixed rates. If it's a
00:32:46.300 low rate that's good but after that if they want to raise the rates to seven eight nine percent well 0.93
00:32:51.820 then you're fucked forever you know i mean then you're just floating on the market right which
00:32:57.200 can be good or bad but knowing what it's been recently that's been bad for a lot of people 0.98
00:33:00.960 a lot of people ended up underwater on their houses totally upside down just because they 0.93
00:33:05.560 can't make the fucking mortgage payments anymore because they went up by a thousand dollars a month 0.92
00:33:09.600 that's real stories that happen to everyone so you know when you're shopping for a house it's 0.99
00:33:14.080 up you like you do the mortgage calculator or whatever and say like you know this is good now
00:33:19.100 if everything goes to hell will it still be good anyway we don't need to talk about the house did
00:33:25.840 you have any questions i know you've you know you you were kind of interested in this like what it
00:33:30.800 was like no no i think the the main thing that i guess i had heard from other people but you keep
00:33:35.280 coming back to is that to move quickly and i had heard people say that but then hearing your
00:33:40.320 anecdotes about it here like yeah i i do get it and especially with you know with everybody being
00:33:45.620 in a kind of distressed state right now a lot of people like the examples you gave people
00:33:50.400 essentially have to walk away from their homes or flippers trying to walk away from a bad investment
00:33:54.920 um yeah there's probably actually some decent deals out there compared to two years ago but
00:34:01.260 you do have to jump on them and i kind of to to zoom in a little bit of what you said earlier
00:34:07.720 you're saying like oh i don't want um i don't want some other big company that could pay more
00:34:11.780 to come in and grab it yeah i mean i feel that way too and i don't know if i want to i want to
00:34:17.620 be the one person like i don't have i'm not in the position to do it right now but i get that
00:34:20.900 feeling that like yeah this is a good house and i would rather me live here than somebody else
00:34:25.740 yeah and also like like i was saying before don't become too in love with the house like this entire
00:34:32.440 process i'm very cynical so i'm always waiting for the other shoe drop i'm like i like this but
00:34:37.960 where's it fucked up you know and if i can find the cluster of reasons why it's fucked up then
00:34:43.540 that means it's not one big secret reason right but i'm willing to walk away the entire time 0.95
00:34:48.700 like they can't don't let them sense that desperation on you um and especially if they
00:34:53.520 think you know they'll always make it sound like i i said oh i'm operating in a paranoid way because
00:34:59.620 what if they swoop in very rarely do people swoop in like that if you know the house like
00:35:04.960 we're looking at the house like here's what we like about does anyone else like it and if they
00:35:09.740 could have sold it before they would have sold it before and they didn't and they just dropped it by
00:35:15.580 another 50 grand last week which means you know they're like really shaving it off so i'm like
00:35:21.000 you know i i honestly think i'm like nice we want this i don't think there's a bidding war
00:35:25.840 however i just want to get this in because i don't want the i don't want again a conglomerate
00:35:30.800 to come in or they get weird with it too they think we're dicking them around like i just want 0.69
00:35:34.400 to end this conversation but i'm not going to be taken for a fucking ride and i let them know i'm
00:35:38.780 like here's the list of things i don't like about it so that's why i'm valuing it that less than you 0.99
00:35:45.420 are but i'm also i'm a white man and i'm not gonna rape you we get a bad rap for being rapists and we 0.87
00:35:52.840 talk about it on the show we're a very you know when people say we are the best rapists what they 0.67
00:35:59.020 mean they're talking about quality not quantity we win we win on finesse not on points okay i come
00:36:09.960 in with a firm hyperborean handshake and i'm like hey how you doing how's your hair look here's what 0.99
00:36:16.500 it's worth i'm gonna pay you want it or not we doing this i got you i got a fucking black 0.92
00:36:22.620 gooning story i gotta get back to the simmer it's on the crock pot i gotta keep an eye on that like 0.98
00:36:27.540 what are we doing i've been i've been watching too much succession i'm saying like oh can you
00:36:32.660 i'm pointing at something in that i was saying oh can we double click on that
00:36:36.080 what's going on with that just a real a real a target for assassination
00:36:44.620 but uh other than that you know that's the mindset you got to be in but you'll find
00:36:52.060 if you just watch the market you know what it's like it's like crypto where you think when you're
00:36:58.580 on the outside that it's this big imposing thing but if you just kind of lurk if you watch it for
00:37:05.360 a while and you make some guesses and maybe the guesses go wrong and maybe you bet a little money
00:37:11.200 and then it gets flipped around on you it's a learning experience it doesn't take you long
00:37:15.520 before you get a nugget of confidence in you and then you feel you get your bearings right
00:37:22.480 it's not this big imposing thing water heater yes new water heater clean is oh it's new 0.99
00:37:28.700 oh fantastic new furnace new water heater new fucking samtech all that shit that's why i was 0.99
00:37:35.280 happy you know what i didn't know i didn't know you're supposed to drain your water heater every 0.99
00:37:39.440 year neither did i i learned that today just today i learned that uh when i had a big fucking 0.73
00:37:45.340 problem with mine about six months ago so now i i mean and then i did it but then then it's a
00:37:49.520 problem i had to replace the electrodes in the you gotta also you gotta replace the little the
00:37:53.280 anode thing there's a little fucking aluminum doodad in there you gotta do that there's a 0.76
00:37:57.860 chore i'm gonna come over and i'm gonna get with a notebook in your house i'm gonna like 0.98
00:38:01.440 be a fucking uncle and uh even though i hope so well because you're already committed to helping 0.91
00:38:06.580 me on a few projects one is that there's no fence here and you have promised me a row of hedges 0.99
00:38:12.920 i'm gonna hedge you i'm very excited about yeah and also we need to convert this garage into a
00:38:18.820 studio oh yeah so and again i've got my no nothing cap on thinking i'm like oh we're gonna throw up 0.97
00:38:26.240 some fucking uh pink insulation to get some drywall in there you know just just fucking 0.88
00:38:31.260 throw it up just get it get it up there not no i haven't done any of this before i'm pretty sure i 0.97
00:38:36.900 can though and we're gonna have a real fun time building the new blood satellite global headquarters
00:38:43.980 uh but there's electricity in there i found out today we went in i'm like oh there's they figured
00:38:48.800 it out there's like lights and outlets in there so i'm like oh we're there that's a plus yeah
00:38:53.360 i thought i was gonna have to steal electricity i thought we're gonna have to hack into one of
00:38:58.160 the lines i was ready for that one of the like you like like the neighbors yeah just you know 0.96
00:39:06.340 the lines the fucking stuff that's in the air you know the lines everywhere you put a big dish 0.97
00:39:10.860 big tesla coil on the roof instead of just running a fucking wire from the house that's i think wire 0.98
00:39:16.420 no but wire from over the the other the lines this house yeah we also switch is much farther 0.96
00:39:22.560 than your house they got their electricity come from the lines we just do it to the the city
00:39:27.420 i want that we do for them what you did do for me what you did for them oh lord it's in the 0.98
00:39:33.700 fucking air it's whoever's if you have the wherewithal to have a pair of needle nose pliers 0.97
00:39:40.460 and you know some big gloves you can just get you can kind of get whatever you want 0.99
00:39:47.200 yeah and i mean that generally you can get whatever you want in life with a pair of pliers
00:39:52.360 So moving on, we have some big news here. 0.97
00:39:56.060 I'm fucked up over this. 0.96
00:39:58.840 I'm looking at thedailymail.com. 0.98
00:40:01.560 I'm just going to read the headline, and I'm going to let the dust settle afterwards.
00:40:05.900 World exclusive secret diary of Hitler's English girlfriend.
00:40:11.480 Revealed after 80 years.
00:40:13.500 Bombshell revelations about Fuhrer's private life from, her name is Unity Mitford.
00:40:18.900 aristocratic beauty who scandalized British society
00:40:22.340 and here's a real life picture
00:40:24.180 I assume
00:40:25.220 she's got a real like you know 1940s look 1.00
00:40:28.120 about her women back then 1.00
00:40:30.220 look like shit 1.00
00:40:31.760 can we agree on that 0.99
00:40:33.660 well
00:40:35.840 I mean I'll give them a break
00:40:37.960 no I won't
00:40:40.300 alright you know what I keep 1.00
00:40:42.240 seeing photos I don't think women
00:40:44.160 have ever looked very good
00:40:45.520 what do you think about that 0.94
00:40:46.800 i mean this particular woman i don't want to like use her as an example of all women
00:40:51.860 i don't think that's fair to women generally hitler's looking solid though it's not yeah well
00:40:57.840 dude dudes have a different scale you know he's got the face on this photo like he's trying to
00:41:05.020 figure out what someone's saying i like to dinner because we're staring at this old newspaper photo
00:41:09.760 of hitler and this angry looking woman it really is a weird photo like he he's he's listening to 0.91
00:41:16.280 some horse shit from someone he's got the face he's yelling at the tv and she's looking at him 0.94
00:41:21.180 like just change the channel you know it's it's that rare situation where she's showing him a 0.99
00:41:27.620 movie yeah her favorite show and and he's asking her like yeah but why did she why did he do that
00:41:34.480 he's showing she's showing him severance and he's saying where's this going
00:41:40.840 so they just start season two and nothing's answered and we i don't even remember season 0.98
00:41:49.060 one and there's no recap and we didn't why why is he running in cgi what is this fuck this 0.98
00:41:57.160 that hitler just saw severance he's saying fuck this um look i'm not i'm not tv guy i did actually 0.95
00:42:04.200 watch the first two episodes of it it seemed like the previous season which was like cool i guess 0.99
00:42:09.300 That's the thing.
00:42:10.220 Something happened to me in between season one and season two of Apple TV's Severance.
00:42:16.240 I loved season one.
00:42:17.880 I recommended it, right?
00:42:19.940 I sat down to sit.
00:42:21.460 I sat down to sit.
00:42:23.020 What a thing to say.
00:42:23.840 That's the first problem.
00:42:24.540 But I'm a true.
00:42:29.780 I'm a little.
00:42:34.160 What the hell have I seen?
00:42:36.200 Use a banana as a telephone. 0.82
00:42:37.700 Use a banana as a telephone
00:42:40.240 Use a banana as a telephone
00:42:42.440 I had to kneel to take a seat
00:42:45.380 I was watching episode one
00:42:48.500 I'm like, I can't take this show anymore
00:42:51.760 It's too much
00:42:53.000 You know what it was?
00:42:54.200 I realized this aesthetic of the cold, soulless office
00:42:59.360 You know what I mean?
00:43:00.840 That's a Gen X thing, isn't it?
00:43:02.840 Gen X people, I'm not trying to disparage Gen X
00:43:05.320 but they're obsessed with the office of cubicles and conformity and i think they try to dress it
00:43:11.780 up in like a retro 1970s trippy aesthetic like 70s futuristic aesthetic but i'm like there's
00:43:18.660 something here i don't even relate to anymore i think a lot of people my generation don't which
00:43:23.000 is like crushing office conformity and labyrinthine halls and shit like this that's not something 0.81
00:43:29.340 people even fucking experience anymore it's like open offices it's people would love the 0.98
00:43:35.340 opportunity most of them to work in this nightmare building because they're all unemployed or 0.94
00:43:39.620 something you know i mean but it's like just the aesthetic is off it seems from a generation that
00:43:45.200 i don't even respond to anymore i'm not impressed i'm not impressed by any i think you just changed
00:43:50.520 man i think i must have changed right yeah it was like two three years since the last episode
00:43:55.880 something crazy like that it's been a long time yeah i was it was it was in china when i was
00:43:59.860 watching it hold on we're going back to hitler's thing long lost secret eyes of hitler's english
00:44:04.880 girlfriend are today unveiled by the mail you know how many decades have people been reading
00:44:10.900 the diary of anne frank will they dare to teach this to kids because i think what we're seeing
00:44:17.640 right now is the dawn of an entity that i never thought i would live to see this is the creation 0.99
00:44:24.680 of sex hitler hot shit here it comes this is hitler's as a man who's out there he's got 1.00
00:44:33.880 girlfriends what's she saying about him what she she's talking about his penis talking about how 1.00
00:44:40.520 she wants to jump his bones that's something this this bitch would say i bet a grandma type thing 1.00
00:44:46.760 you know is she calling him foxy is she calling him dream is he a dreamboat 1.00
00:44:52.940 we're seeing a hitler that women really want to fuck i don't think we're ready for that socially 1.00
00:45:00.200 that's important that the power of that that's what they don't want they want you doing two 0.99
00:45:06.020 things they don't want to see that you see the translation of hitler's speeches they got that
00:45:10.400 going on tiktok right people are used to him just yelling and pounding and they assume he's saying
00:45:16.960 something unhinged it turns out he's saying really smart inspiring things you just don't speak german
00:45:22.140 it so you didn't know yeah they also don't want to think about this guy he's getting a hummer in 0.99
00:45:27.960 the car he's he's out there he's having shower sex or clawfoot bathtub sex whatever it is no no no 1.00
00:45:36.100 stop no no what's wrong with that why can't you accept that why can't you accept sex hitler 0.99
00:45:41.040 it's your programming won't even permit it's only wednesday oh geez what they didn't even 0.89
00:45:49.520 quote anything that's in here we got a leather bound journal uh anything anything could be in
00:45:54.960 there all four episodes of oh they did it a podcast we better not open it then well now
00:46:01.980 we gotta listen to a fucking podcast about it they better be reading it there's certain things
00:46:06.940 that the public deserve to know about sex hitler so i gotta go listen this podcast i hope they're 0.99
00:46:13.020 just not going to talk about jews if you're talking about hitler's girlfriend there should
00:46:18.380 be no mention of jews whatsoever because i refuse to believe she's jewish she's oh there's comments
00:46:24.180 560 comments here we go uh makes me wonder if these diaries are authentic don't care
00:46:30.800 of course they might not be authentic of course they probably aren't authentic it doesn't 0.65
00:46:36.940 fucking matter the the what we are creating is a tulpa what we are creating we're drawing forth 0.63
00:46:43.880 this mythological 0.99
00:46:46.440 beast called 0.99
00:46:48.500 Sex Hitler. I don't give a shit 1.00
00:46:50.440 if this woman existed. I don't give 1.00
00:46:52.620 a shit if women know how to read 1.00
00:46:54.620 or write. They probably don't. 1.00
00:46:56.880 Actually, when have you seen it? Have you seen
00:46:58.660 a woman with a library? 0.78
00:47:00.800 Bet you haven't. 1.00
00:47:02.520 Have you seen a woman in a library? 0.55
00:47:04.520 Think about it again. Do a double take. Was that a woman 0.95
00:47:06.780 or was that a dog 1.00
00:47:08.700 standing on its hind legs?
00:47:10.280 Now you got me thinking. Libraries are entirely
00:47:12.640 women that's the only people there yeah that's why no one goes in the libraries and it got overrun 1.00
00:47:18.120 with dogs there's full of dogs this whole time is that where all the dogs went
00:47:22.120 it's not who let the dogs that who let the dogs in wait if all the dogs are in the library then
00:47:29.640 who's that in my house you get nothing wait nothing new here surely everyone already knows
00:47:35.960 this in the same way that they know that her sister jessica mitford eloped with her cousin 0.97
00:47:41.780 i don't know that i don't know who this shit is who is a nephew of winston churchill everyone's 0.97
00:47:46.340 got all these i don't have any world war ii drama i don't know who was penning lurid notes i don't 0.99
00:47:55.400 care who was snogging in the in the the the the butler's quarters you know i mean snogging yep
00:48:04.840 Yeah.
00:48:06.060 What was Winston Churchill up to?
00:48:07.560 Shagging and snogging.
00:48:08.400 What was he? 1.00
00:48:09.780 Baring his ass to some poor lady, you know? 1.00
00:48:16.220 That's what he was into. 1.00
00:48:17.480 He was into baring his ass. 1.00
00:48:19.480 The world's not ready for sex Churchill, is the truth. 1.00
00:48:22.660 I think people have heard about enough of sex Churchill.
00:48:29.920 TMI, and that's a bit of J-E-I.
00:48:33.140 just enough information
00:48:35.460 on that wavelength
00:48:37.600 and I think we need to really address this
00:48:39.800 because this was making the rounds
00:48:41.340 in the chat so I'm
00:48:43.720 looking at this was released by
00:48:45.840 a notorious 1.00
00:48:47.440 whore adjacent 1.00
00:48:49.520 to our spaces named Ayala 1.00
00:48:51.080 who we covered on Real Secret Coffee
00:48:53.660 Hours if people will recall 0.99
00:48:54.980 and I mean whore as in a 1.00
00:48:57.600 sex worker she's a woman 1.00
00:48:59.740 whose entire being 0.99
00:49:01.740 is it aella is that how you pronounce it i for a while i did iaya like paella yeah that's
00:49:08.960 because he's paella without the p so it's just three a's iaya iaya iaya iaya which is really
00:49:16.760 like a hawaiian type name right like that's um but yeah she released this apparent because as 0.99
00:49:25.120 sex workers have these very unique definitions of what rape is so she released this thing called 1.00
00:49:31.920 the rape spectrum i don't think she produced it is produced by erodynamics we all know women can't 0.99
00:49:39.600 read and write so she definitely didn't produce you know i hate people i hate these sex guys 0.99
00:49:45.580 you know what i mean because i used to work in a sex store when i was in my 20s and that does 0.82
00:49:50.920 we talked about that on the show a long, long time ago,
00:49:52.660 but there's guys out there.
00:49:55.280 There's the gooders, of course,
00:49:56.680 but then there's guys who are usually, you know,
00:49:59.280 not the best looking, you know,
00:50:01.020 they're kind of dorky and they're out of shape, 0.93
00:50:03.600 but they think the way they can get laid is to be, 1.00
00:50:07.880 they get into tantric sex. 0.98
00:50:09.460 Like I'm going to be a sex expert. 1.00
00:50:10.800 I'm going to know every part of the vagina. 1.00
00:50:13.460 Sex should be a miraculous, horrifying thing 1.00
00:50:16.780 that happens like particles colliding, right?
00:50:20.920 and yet here we are yeah here and look behold what you get the rape spectrum it is a uh a line
00:50:30.100 from 12 up to 100 all of these things are rape but there's you know low impact rape i guess
00:50:38.980 right up to high impact rape so what's both end of these spectrums at the very in the green area
00:50:45.460 and i guess this is it can only be interpreted as the most acceptable form of rape having sex 1.00
00:50:51.980 with an unenthusiastic sex worker you're fucking useless be trafficked it's like an 1.00
00:50:58.380 unenthusiastic sex worker i guess what she's trying to say is like a sex slave but like 1.00
00:51:02.800 if you detect that they're putting on an act is that rape because i assume they're all 0.98
00:51:10.160 unenthusiastic right yeah it has to be like 90 percent of them and well that's like when we're 0.96
00:51:15.440 talking we're talking about sex worker we're talking about prostitutes because like a is like 0.85
00:51:19.560 uh she's not really a prostitute she's like an of person which is like somewhere halfway between 0.97
00:51:24.600 a prostitute and porn i think she's she's actually a like a prost a sex worker oh she's actually a 0.76
00:51:31.140 prostitute so she's just a hooker now oh i'm pretty sure but here's the like the operative 1.00
00:51:37.140 word is worker is anyone enthusiastic about work yeah they're punching a clock yeah yeah they're 1.00
00:51:43.740 you know amir so have i grown when i'm sweeping the floor at work is that rape yeah i mean
00:51:51.980 depending who you ask like this i don't want to get as bogged down into a capital because i own 0.99
00:51:57.500 the company it's self-rape i'm raping myself it is self-inflicted it's auto fellatio 0.99
00:52:05.680 capitalistic 0.99
00:52:07.640 gooning. Yeah.
00:52:10.240 Capitalistic goonicide.
00:52:12.800 What
00:52:13.520 is gooning if someone
00:52:15.740 else is doing it to you?
00:52:17.840 Yeah. These are the big questions.
00:52:19.660 This is why we're here tonight. That black guy who 0.97
00:52:21.640 was in the car naked from the waist 1.00
00:52:23.600 down, if someone else was jerking 0.98
00:52:25.820 him off from the backseat, what is 0.83
00:52:27.780 that? I'll tell you
00:52:29.720 what it's not. It's not a crime.
00:52:32.180 And would he have killed himself
00:52:33.800 from shame or would he have run to the police he maybe would have killed himself for something
00:52:37.920 unrelated i don't know his life i don't know what was lurking in his mind i'll tell you one thing
00:52:42.920 it wasn't illegal and i wouldn't have killed myself i wouldn't have been embarrassed
00:52:46.960 i'm not saying i'm a victim either i'm a different third thing oh god so on the other end at the
00:52:56.660 opposite end number 100 is a stranger forcibly assaults someone who screams and fights the
00:53:01.980 entire time which is what someone would probably think of when they imagine rape and then there's
00:53:06.380 a gradient between those two poles um here's an interesting one not level 100 but level 91
00:53:13.980 here we go a person has a rape fetish their friend trying to be helpful gets a stranger
00:53:21.520 to abduct and forcibly penetrate this person so also trying to be helpful 0.92
00:53:28.420 that's funny he has a rape fish it's like well i mean i want to help i want to help him and it 0.96
00:53:34.600 can't be me being raped right like the friend if you're a guy i got rape fish and there's a girl 0.86
00:53:40.300 she's like well i really want to help him out but i don't want to be raped like so i'm gonna help 0.95
00:53:45.680 someone because who in this example who is being raped it almost sounds like it's the woman who
00:53:50.300 facilitated the real rape yeah like yeah there's a lot of questions here like my first read of that
00:53:56.260 was like you know a woman who has a rape fetish because let's be honest it's only women who have 0.65
00:54:00.300 rape fetishes and then you hire a man to rape the woman that you know but another way to interpret 0.99
00:54:05.340 it is you you are a you are a woman whose husband has a rape fetish and instead of raping the way 0.99
00:54:14.740 this is phrased okay let's repeat this because people aren't looking at this as i'm reading 0.99
00:54:18.900 a person has a rape fetish put a pin in that their friend trying to be helpful gets a stranger
00:54:25.960 to abduct and forcibly penetrate this person so their friend okay they're not the first the first 0.96
00:54:32.680 subject is the person with the fetish is the one being raped but they're being raped because a 0.89
00:54:37.600 kindly friend paid a stranger they liked it so they found a rapist i don't know how you would 0.71
00:54:44.480 do that only only a an adult hooker could have written this i take it back what i said earlier 1.00
00:54:51.420 she definitely wrote this it makes no fucking sense because is it even rape if the person 1.00
00:54:56.620 wants it no but the the person being raped also says i like being raped you should i guess if 0.97
00:55:05.040 they're not in on it i guess but then you'd have to it either it's one of these things where it's
00:55:09.140 like a serious talk it either is or it isn't there's no such there's no such thing as we
00:55:14.780 can't actually the reason this thing is funny is there's no such thing as a 45 percent rape
00:55:18.760 right this doesn't make any fucking sense yeah okay yeah there's no 45 let's go to 77 0.98
00:55:24.760 percent rape okay a husband forcing sex upon a wife in a traditional culture 0.99
00:55:31.260 where she doesn't perceive this as wrongdoing i mean again like it sounds like i'm making the case
00:55:39.700 that if if a tree gets raped in a forest doesn't make a sound right if like neither party sees it
00:55:47.220 as rape it's like we're in a culture where a woman is not allowed to withhold sex and she's
00:55:52.840 not bothered by it and the guy just says hey i want sex this is what we do like i don't know
00:55:58.640 is is that just is that just being married at the age of 60 you know what i mean yeah like are you
00:56:05.340 just like old and married and then it's just i don't want to do but no one you don't want to
00:56:10.120 have sex because no one wants to do anything do you want to get up out of your chair no do you 0.98
00:56:14.040 want to have to fucking put ice in your lemonade no you don't want to do anything but then 1.00
00:56:18.020 everything is rape because when you're 65 life is rape no um we're at 56 percent rape here 1.00
00:56:26.620 uninterested reserved person gets very drunk on a date the other person is sober they have sex 0.97
00:56:32.580 i mean that's just that's just being 21 um yeah that's just regular human interaction here's one 0.96
00:56:38.860 46 percent rape sex with someone who resists and says no but who secretly really wants it 0.72
00:56:46.200 that is heterosex that's like i'm gonna say i'm gonna say no i'm not i'm not like that but i 0.78
00:56:54.520 secretly really want it and yeah i mean that's that's the perennial tricky one right i think
00:56:59.240 the thing with that because i still feel like there's rape and then there's not rape and there
00:57:02.880 isn't anything in between with that you've got this thing that doesn't get discussed where
00:57:08.240 you can have spectrums of rape but there's but no always means no and the reality is there is no 0.99
00:57:13.760 spectrum of rape there is a spectrum of no like like in the same way that we can call you a fag 0.64
00:57:19.180 in 100 different tones we can say no in 100 different ways and everybody who knows anybody 0.76
00:57:24.420 knows that no does not always mean no and that's not even a sexual thing it just doesn't like you
00:57:30.500 can be like hey buddy i bought a new house and i'm like no no like that doesn't i'm not obviously
00:57:35.640 That's not what it means, right?
00:57:36.760 He should have done that.
00:57:37.340 He should have been like, no way.
00:57:38.960 That's so cool.
00:57:40.880 I'm so impressed.
00:57:43.660 You're so smart.
00:57:44.960 How could you have done that all by yourself?
00:57:48.960 Man, you got me nailed.
00:57:50.440 Jesus.
00:57:52.800 Here's another one here.
00:57:55.460 I'm going to let people get a peek behind the curtain of what it's like to be a white man.
00:58:00.060 A lot of people don't know this, and I'm going to get in trouble for revealing these secrets.
00:58:03.400 but as a white man i want to give a message to women and black people out there you're different
00:58:10.600 entities but you need to hear this message we know when you're lying this will come as a shock to
00:58:18.360 many women listening but we we actually understand when you're saying no you don't mean it we're not
00:58:26.280 dopey cavemen we are aware how women operate amongst themselves and in the dating market we
00:58:32.520 know a real no from a fake no we know what stop it means okay we know and i know you think that 0.99
00:58:40.360 we need contracts because this is how anyone ever had sex and to black people i also say like
00:58:44.960 we know when you are code switching you think you've got us figured out we're just being polite 0.92
00:58:52.060 there's black people i noticed when i was watching cat williams in interviews when he's he's famous
00:58:57.980 comedian he's interviewing with the black people he sounds different and more engaged and when he's
00:59:02.140 interviewing with he was just on with theo vaughn recently and he does this very slow contemplative
00:59:08.420 methodical voice and like you're trying you're talking to a white person so you've got the white
00:59:12.720 person voice we know when you're doing that we know when you're faking it you think you've got
00:59:17.880 one over on us but we're just very polite okay and so all this whole spectrum it's like we're gonna
00:59:24.300 you're not telling me anything we don't know you're not that hard to figure out we just we
00:59:30.060 like to write poetry about how women are so inscrutable and mysterious and they're like
00:59:36.000 these ethereal other how can we ever comprehend the divine symmetry of the female being it's like
00:59:43.500 that's just something we say because we like making things but you're not very hard to figure
00:59:49.760 out we know what when you're just being goofy okay here's another one stealing money back after 0.99
00:59:56.180 paying a sex worker for sex so becomes rape when they're not paid that's so wild that you were 1.00
01:00:04.760 just saying before here's how i know it was written by a fucking sex worker yeah it's when 1.00
01:00:08.760 i enthusiastically have sex with you but you don't tip me now it's now it's rape really iaya 1.00
01:00:14.980 um oh dude oh here here's interesting not revealing transgender until after sex now 1.00
01:00:24.320 i like i like where your head's at here's the thing again i'm maybe this is a side message 0.98
01:00:31.280 sidebar for the trannies out there we know when you're lying if someone is having if you're having 0.99
01:00:38.580 sex with a tranny odds are you know and that's what you're into um i'm aware that you're trained 0.99
01:00:43.920 there's no great that's that's like a tranny thing where they're like i tricked them so well 1.00
01:00:48.900 that, you know, my vagina 1.00
01:00:51.100 was like the real thing. No, it's not. 0.99
01:00:53.400 The actual rape is
01:00:54.960 you being around me. 1.00
01:00:56.920 The rape is subjecting
01:00:58.640 my aura to 1.00
01:01:00.820 your corruption.
01:01:03.540 Oh, and here is
01:01:04.600 the piece de resistance.
01:01:07.680 This is in the green.
01:01:09.280 This is at level 17.
01:01:11.440 Person
01:01:11.880 with Down Syndrome eagerly 1.00
01:01:16.960 has sex with a neurotypical. 1.00
01:01:18.500 doggy penis 1.00
01:01:19.960 are you allowed to fuck 1.00
01:01:22.560 a horny down syndrome 1.00
01:01:25.000 of age 0.66
01:01:26.640 person
01:01:27.220 you know what's worse than all that
01:01:31.300 according to the spectrum
01:01:32.600 lying about
01:01:34.980 wealth or hobbies in order to get
01:01:37.080 laid
01:01:37.480 that's worse 1.00
01:01:40.740 than fucking someone 1.00
01:01:42.980 fucking a retard 1.00
01:01:44.000 that's worse than fucking a retard 1.00
01:01:46.000 so if you lie about having like this the county's biggest chaos army to sleep with an emo chick 1.00
01:01:54.040 that's great yeah guys if you've ever considered saying you like taylor swift
01:01:59.840 just to get with a girl get ready for federal prison get ready for doing something worse than 0.99
01:02:06.660 fucking a retard then again who would ever have to lie to say that they love taylor swift 1.00
01:02:11.800 are you one of them i'm sorry i'm sorry no i don't think you have two daughters i wouldn't 1.00
01:02:19.020 be surprised if you look look i've been listening to a lot of disney songs recently and there's no
01:02:24.640 i i beat my songs into their head i sing to them every night they know all of my songs 0.95
01:02:30.520 they don't know any of their fucking songs i only listen to my music when i'm in the car with 0.99
01:02:36.620 nickels so he's got a head full of fucking rammstein and suicide boys but when i'm at home 0.99
01:02:43.380 i listen to his music the jungle book no pretty good pretty good it's like just it's all right 0.98
01:02:50.540 it's the me the original jungle yeah it's all right yeah the original where it's just like
01:02:53.880 they just recorded a bunch of like jazz guys and scat guys yeah it does it sounds like it sounds
01:03:00.520 like just musicians in a studio that they just put a barrel you know what that's one of the only
01:03:04.480 Disney movies that actually has a good
01:03:06.020 some good songs in it they all have like
01:03:08.580 decent songs but most of them I mean you
01:03:10.560 kind of take them on their own it's like 0.74
01:03:12.480 oh this is theater trash 0.95
01:03:14.400 at best yeah like I 0.97
01:03:16.220 I'm and Toy Story
01:03:18.480 I like Toy Story
01:03:20.820 no songs in but so
01:03:22.500 I got Nichols has this
01:03:24.100 toy I guess
01:03:26.260 it's called the Tony Box
01:03:27.720 I don't know if you have one of those but
01:03:29.800 Disney released it and it's like
01:03:32.280 a red box but it's
01:03:34.020 padded it's cushioned and uh it plays music and the trick is that this is how they get you right
01:03:40.020 but they have these figurines each figurine it's like an actual 3d printed figurine i guess and
01:03:45.640 it's after a movie like jungle book toy story whatever and you it's magnetized you kind of
01:03:50.320 slap it on top of the box and it automatically starts playing the songs and it plays like four
01:03:55.400 songs from that movie and then an audio book of the mood just describing the movie reading it out
01:04:01.220 and so he's crazy about that
01:04:03.320 and so even 0.96
01:04:05.280 fucking like Cars 0.97
01:04:07.240 there's one for Cars where there's no 0.99
01:04:09.460 songs in that movie really
01:04:10.880 but they just found a bunch of like country
01:04:13.520 rock songs and made them for
01:04:15.600 it and
01:04:16.940 they're really good like they're just
01:04:19.500 actually like radio hits made for
01:04:21.500 this and but anyway
01:04:23.300 good stuff but it's
01:04:25.400 padded so it can be knocked off the table
01:04:27.400 and thrown around it's easy to use
01:04:29.540 and they start to learn cause and effect
01:04:31.500 and how to turn it on
01:04:32.540 and how to skip the songs
01:04:34.080 by like slapping the side and stuff like that.
01:04:36.360 So I've heard the Toy Story audio book,
01:04:39.860 I'd say around 250 times.
01:04:42.980 And so I'm speaking this from a father's perspective
01:04:45.820 where whatever your kid does,
01:04:47.380 you're going to hear it a thousand times.
01:04:50.360 Be very careful about what you introduce them to.
01:04:53.620 Make it so you kind of like it.
01:04:56.360 Yeah.
01:04:56.480 toy story this is not a movie corner toy story is a solid story generally it's about group dynamics
01:05:06.500 it's about the established figure what he here comes the new guy how do you navigate the group
01:05:11.120 dynamics that everyone starts to turn against him everyone fucking loves buzz all his confidants 0.99
01:05:16.060 all his comrades his bitch bo peep she likes the new guy in town because there's always a new guy 0.99
01:05:22.000 in town right he's got the new thing it doesn't matter it doesn't fucking matter what woody did 0.99
01:05:27.380 for them it doesn't there's no respect given to him probably kept all them together save their 0.95
01:05:32.520 fucking lives he's sending out troops to get the four-on-one and what's going on sending out the 0.94
01:05:38.060 green army men look look what all that was worth the moment a new shiny man shows up on the scene 1.00
01:05:45.460 but then he's there to stay he tries to get rid of him he tries to be devious yeah but then they
01:05:50.900 need to reconcile they just synthesize by the end of it which is something that works for adults as
01:05:56.420 well there's always a new guy and you got to reconcile with that maybe you become a better
01:06:00.660 man in the process that's what you learn from toy story i have less to work with i have to explain
01:06:07.780 the meaning of like desperado by the eagles or don mcclain's american pie or or ray charles's
01:06:15.740 rendition of i can't stop loving you and i have to explain what's going on and i have to make up
01:06:21.940 stories for all the characters okay hit me with one so let's say i can't stop loving you okay um
01:06:28.860 so uh hit me with the digits jay spice those happy hours that we once knew though long ago
01:06:37.240 still make me blue why what happened where'd they go fair well what yeah but why are they apart
01:06:42.560 No, but how did he know her?
01:06:43.680 How did they meet?
01:06:44.820 Yeah, but were they married?
01:06:46.180 Was there a war?
01:06:47.440 Why do countries have wars?
01:06:49.440 Why do the wars last so long that they can't see each other?
01:06:51.920 What if she died?
01:06:53.340 What is he going to do if she died?
01:06:55.060 So is this you asking your daughters?
01:06:57.660 These are the questions that I get as I get interrupted with the song.
01:07:01.660 Okay, I thought you were asking them.
01:07:03.980 No, no, no.
01:07:05.200 But that's a newer one for us.
01:07:08.680 But American Pie, I think I've litigated for the last two years.
01:07:12.240 so what i think i know i've heard like two different descriptions of what that song's
01:07:16.420 about what do you what's your read on america i honestly to me i we i could talk about this for
01:07:21.480 hours i because i talk about daughter i i think american pie is maybe one of the greatest anthems
01:07:28.400 of the collapse of american civilization and i know a lot of people think it's about a lot of
01:07:32.440 different things i think it is the loss if i could just interrupt this is what he says to his daughter
01:07:37.340 I've been with them and he speaks to her at this sort of level.
01:07:42.260 I think it's the loss of innocence or purity of the American identity in the post-war years.
01:07:53.240 And most of that has to do with big sports and media and music and the replacement of certain idols and certain facets of culture and society with new facets.
01:08:03.500 and the death of the church
01:08:06.480 or like the loss of faith in the church.
01:08:08.560 There's a lot of things going in.
01:08:09.820 Look, I mean, I could go by verse by verse,
01:08:13.680 but it's not in the show notes.
01:08:15.840 No, but this is what people want to hear.
01:08:18.520 I mean, that's a heavy load to lay.
01:08:21.420 Yeah, it is.
01:08:22.260 Yeah, it is.
01:08:22.560 Yeah, Nichols is in a phase right now
01:08:24.620 where before he thought it was funny
01:08:27.640 to say no back to me,
01:08:29.860 you know, I'd say no
01:08:30.640 because I'm the no guy in the marriage.
01:08:33.500 But, and he'd go, no, no.
01:08:35.380 And he thinks it's funny to throw it back to me.
01:08:37.280 Ha ha.
01:08:38.860 Haven't heard that one before, you know?
01:08:41.800 But now he's, because he's about two right now.
01:08:44.940 And so they call it the terrible twos.
01:08:47.380 I'm sure you went through this where he's just challenging authority.
01:08:51.740 And, but, and like, I'll say something like, do you want to do this cookie?
01:08:54.720 And you'll go, no.
01:08:56.160 And enunciate it with an underline beneath it, bold and italicized.
01:09:02.620 and look at me and say no but then take the cookie right so what he's what he's doing it's
01:09:08.440 like i want to do it but i don't want you to tell me to do it but i'm going to do it anyway i'm like
01:09:12.960 okay i'm i'm figuring this out because i still need to establish that i have authority but you're
01:09:18.800 also trying to see it's like i just it's also independence it's like i don't want to do that
01:09:23.040 but i do but i don't want to do it because you told me to which is a very and cap sort of thing
01:09:27.940 we never had that as much with our kids but i'm wondering if it's because i modeled the
01:09:32.040 behavior with my wife in front of them for years like bob will ask me to say can you come and help
01:09:38.700 me with the dishes i'm like get out of here no but then while i'm saying that i'm doing it for
01:09:43.640 her it's like go can you go and get the garbage can just think no do what you do you can't you
01:09:48.180 you're not gonna make me but then i just i'm just doing it as i'm saying that like it's the
01:09:52.740 principle of the thing but it's with you it's every single exchange is the principle constantly
01:10:00.840 hey do you want i roasted some carrots like did you want them with rosemary just salt it's like
01:10:07.520 what are you get off my back thrown defended as i fill my plate yeah so we're gonna politic now
01:10:15.660 that's what we're gonna do for the rest of the night we're politicking and then as you're adding 0.98
01:10:19.980 the rosemary to the fucking carrots yeah all right so we gotta move on um but there's a couple things 0.82
01:10:26.480 i want to get to first i'm just going to get to some show news really quick one it's that i'd 0.97
01:10:31.360 like to give a special shout out to last week i did a run of three interviews all pertaining to
01:10:38.100 the short documentary we released called paving over the public and they were piquiones i was on
01:10:44.580 there with uh jean gracie who is a researcher and helped contribute to the show and he's just full
01:10:51.420 of all the vital information on it.
01:10:53.980 P. Keone's Jason Mirrenchuk Show
01:10:55.760 and Mirrenchuk Now.
01:10:57.300 You can find those.
01:10:58.180 And Benjamin Boyce.
01:10:59.280 I was on with the very fascinating
01:11:01.160 Benjamin Boyce.
01:11:01.840 Had a great time on all three.
01:11:04.020 I might not put those all
01:11:06.040 on the show in the future.
01:11:07.760 I might do one,
01:11:08.640 but kind of go over
01:11:09.880 very much the same stuff
01:11:11.200 and every time.
01:11:11.720 Although Jason Mirrenchuk's was great
01:11:13.720 because we really went off the rails
01:11:16.560 at the end.
01:11:17.260 And we got into a topic
01:11:18.420 that I would love to get to
01:11:20.400 in the future.
01:11:21.420 which is, and I don't even want to talk about too much now
01:11:25.460 because there's some people who are very into this,
01:11:28.280 like Stormy Waters and Tom Luongo,
01:11:30.660 but the idea that the City of London and the Bank of England
01:11:34.180 is at the center of, I guess, not only global finance,
01:11:39.380 but global geopolitics.
01:11:41.580 Anyway, we went off on all that for a while,
01:11:43.840 so that's a good one to look into.
01:11:46.420 New Real Secret Coffee Hours was released.
01:11:49.180 this most recent one very interesting because this is the premier destination for substack
01:11:54.940 reviews and scene drama uh curtis yarvin was in the new york times recently got a profile
01:12:01.800 in new york times watershed moment for yarvin heads out there um so i review that we go through
01:12:09.240 the whole thing um so check that out it's on we're on patreon we're on gum road uh over an hour
01:12:15.160 taking that one apart really interesting stuff
01:12:17.280 also on the Patreon and Gumroad
01:12:19.680 is the second show
01:12:21.440 that you get access to on their
01:12:22.880 movie corner so I'm doing
01:12:25.460 all the movie reviews that don't
01:12:27.420 fit for Blood Salad because you know I like
01:12:29.260 reviewing movies but sometimes we just don't have time
01:12:31.580 because we have too much to talk about so
01:12:32.840 the most recent one that went up was
01:12:35.300 The Family Man with
01:12:37.420 Nicolas Cage
01:12:38.600 classic Christmas movie and the one that's
01:12:41.360 going to be going up this weekend Nosferatu
01:12:43.680 the most recent Nosferatu 2024
01:12:45.880 so people who are
01:12:47.800 interested in hearing about that
01:12:49.240 go on the Patreon, go on the Gumroad
01:12:51.200 and just this week
01:12:53.820 and I think I'm going to include this one
01:12:56.140 on the Coprano Society
01:12:58.420 section at the end of the episode
01:13:00.200 I did a panel discussion
01:13:02.120 with some friends of the show
01:13:03.940 on the topic of America
01:13:06.240 annexing Canada
01:13:07.380 that was in the news a couple weeks ago
01:13:10.180 but I brought together
01:13:12.260 Paul Fahrenheit who was on the side
01:13:15.240 the pro-annexation side
01:13:16.760 there was me
01:13:18.360 Endeavor, Fortisax
01:13:21.360 and a new guest
01:13:23.360 Greg Wycliffe
01:13:24.580 who was affiliated with the People's Party
01:13:27.380 Canada up here, he's a very
01:13:29.000 prolific content creator, documentarian
01:13:31.380 so we all went together and kind of debated
01:13:33.320 the issue and I thought it was
01:13:35.240 relevant because I was in
01:13:37.100 the group chat
01:13:38.920 of a friend of mine in Course of Empire
01:13:41.240 who a lot of people know and him and Hapa Perspective who we've had on the show before
01:13:47.440 they were of the mind that this is all drama it's all frivolous it's an op to cause division
01:13:54.680 it's not a really serious topic and I disagree and that's something that's the reason I wanted
01:13:59.760 to have this live stream because you know while Trump brought it up and people like to meme about
01:14:05.140 it and have fun with it there's a case to be made that this is a relevant financial and
01:14:10.640 geopolitical discussion that's been occurring for decades prior to Trump and will likely continue
01:14:16.640 after Trump. And I was just making the case that this is important and we should revisit it.
01:14:22.780 And it was a great time. I had a phenomenal time. A lot of people seem to like it.
01:14:27.100 I think a lot of people tuned in expecting it not to be as engaging as it was. So
01:14:31.300 I'm probably going to include that in this episode, but if you watch it on YouTube
01:14:36.020 or on my x profile at legal ironic um you can see all the hilarious chats that go up as well
01:14:43.280 um did you watched it right yeah yeah i caught a bit of it yeah you were we were we were chatting
01:14:51.100 up there's very contentious individuals and a lot of passionate opinions being thrown around
01:14:57.660 on either side so leading into the book i want to discuss um i want to get into this article
01:15:06.980 that i read because i do think it segues into it um i'm not going to have enough time to cover all
01:15:13.000 of it but i just want to establish the idea because i've been thinking about it a lot recently
01:15:17.100 i'm looking at endeavors sub stack and it kind of came up on the stream
01:15:21.820 and a lot of people have been liking this article it's called america's thermidorian reaction
01:15:28.680 part one and it's a multi-part series two and three they're very long articles very well
01:15:34.900 researched historical articles but it's looking at uh the phenomena of donald trump and what that
01:15:40.900 means for the system and everything that trump represents because you've been following trump
01:15:44.620 over the past few months he's been issuing a lot of very interesting executive orders
01:15:49.000 It seems that he's been cleaning house. He's been knocking the legs out of the DEI regime. Right. He's disrupting not only not just with mass migration. Right. But the war in Ukraine, the financial mark, crypto, everything. Right.
01:16:05.020 it seems that he's taking down a lot of the boogeymen that we were obsessed with recently
01:16:12.540 i think just uh this week he was talking about uh he issued an executive order banning
01:16:18.520 basically transgender surgery on kids you know hey good stuff right but what does trump actually
01:16:24.640 represent you know i'm not just trying to be a black pillar i'm not trying to pour cold water
01:16:30.520 on this but there's an interesting theory positive here says the subtitle was what donald trump's
01:16:36.240 second presidency might mean for the trajectory of the united states and he goes into the
01:16:42.160 french revolution right just to set this up it says um and french revolution and some other stuff
01:16:49.120 here but he says uh i'm just going to kind of skip around here i'm not going to read the entire thing
01:16:53.020 but in summer of 1789 king louis the 16th of france summoned the estates general to versailles
01:16:59.720 in order to solve France's deepening financial crisis.
01:17:02.180 The Estates General consisted of the first estate representing the clergy,
01:17:05.540 the second estate representing the nobility,
01:17:07.320 and the third estate representing everyone else.
01:17:09.800 He attempted to end the rebellion of the third estate by force,
01:17:12.500 but was met with popular uprising in support of the new National Assembly,
01:17:16.860 climaxing with the storming of the Bastille in 1789.
01:17:22.840 So we're talking about the French Revolution now.
01:17:25.140 Five years later, France found itself gripped by a brutal reign
01:17:28.460 of revolutionary terror under the 12-man committee of public safety led by the radical revolutionary
01:17:34.220 maximilian robespierre you know people kind of know the story here of the french revolution
01:17:39.340 the king was dead the monarchy had been abolished the church had been shut down
01:17:43.540 and scores of people were being hauled off to the guillotine daily nobles clergymen and royalists
01:17:48.460 that already met their maker courtesy of the guillotine's blade were forced into exile
01:17:53.980 After months of constant tide of execution,
01:17:56.980 some revolutionaries in the National Convention began to worry for their own safety.
01:18:01.560 Roves-Pierre and his allies in the Committee of Public Safety suffered the same fate,
01:18:04.940 which they had condemned thousands to on July 28th at the guillotine.
01:18:09.580 In turn, the far-left Jacobin Club was dissolved as most leading members had been executed.
01:18:15.680 The events which led to the overthrow of Roves-Pierre and the end of the Reign of Terror
01:18:19.980 during the french revolution have been dubbed the thermidorian reaction by historians the name is
01:18:25.180 derived from the french revolutionary calendar which renamed the days of the week and months
01:18:29.180 of the year and began counting years from the date of the declaration of the french first republic
01:18:33.420 the thermidorian reaction was not a counter revolution it did not restore the ancien
01:18:39.580 regime of the bourbon monarchy it was not the end of the french revolution nor the regime
01:18:44.860 which the revolution had been brought about those who carried out the thermidorian reaction were
01:18:49.900 not counter-revolutionaries.
01:18:52.020 They were, in fact, revolutionaries themselves
01:18:53.980 who had supported the original revolution.
01:18:56.320 The Thermadorian reaction was a reaction
01:18:57.860 to the excesses of the
01:18:59.980 revolutionary regime, in particular the reign
01:19:01.940 of terror, which had claimed around
01:19:03.900 40,000 lives at that point.
01:19:06.040 By summer of 1794, at the height
01:19:08.040 of the center, and that the center had already
01:19:09.960 been ruthlessly suppressed via the revolutionary terror,
01:19:12.100 the center-left began to fear
01:19:13.580 that they would be next. It wasn't
01:19:16.040 the end of all political persecution
01:19:18.160 under the revolutionary regime.
01:19:19.900 But it halted the daily en masse executions, while many of the Thermidorians were in fact culpable of the terror themselves.
01:19:28.020 Following the Thermidorian reaction, a new incarnation of the revolutionary regime was formed in 1795, known as the Directory, ruled by five directors periodically elected by the assembly.
01:19:39.220 And just to, you know, I'm not going to summarize from there.
01:19:42.500 When we discussed Napoleon in the past, what you saw with Napoleon, while he was an imperialist and while he was interested in stomping out the excesses of the French Revolution, he seemed to be forwarding a lot of the fundamental first principles of the revolution itself.
01:20:00.420 He was trying to smash the Ancien regime or was signaling that he wanted to in every other country that they were taking over.
01:20:07.260 he was going to liberate them so it was like the mass exporting of the revolution under a different
01:20:13.900 guise so basically what he is saying here is that trump is a thermodorian reaction and i would
01:20:21.020 encourage everyone to read this but if you look at what he represents to the system all he is really
01:20:26.220 doing is reigning in the most extreme excesses of it and what would those be well that would be 0.91
01:20:31.740 mass migration that would be the tranny shit um and that would be some of the dei stuff but you 0.93
01:20:38.960 know we had said many many months ago when they said they're putting the woke away well what do 0.98
01:20:43.800 we mean by woke what is woke well so you've got a guy who you got a guy who's qualified by the left
01:20:49.560 as being the most right-wing president in american history this right-wing president is pro-israel
01:20:55.940 the most pro-israel president ever believes in gay marriage uh is pro-abortion what else like he
01:21:03.280 he he believes that he believes that all races are welcome and that america is a propositional 0.96
01:21:09.240 nation so this is your extreme far-right fascist nazi president but this is the point is there
01:21:15.540 the whole table has been reset this is the new spectrum that's the right most point that you 0.95
01:21:21.600 can ever exist in now as an american and everything only goes left from there you can't go more right
01:21:27.620 than that it would be beyond the pale and in fairness this is cute that endeavors writing it
01:21:32.360 now after we can all see it but you and i have been saying this for months so a thousand other
01:21:36.660 people and you what's interesting and i credit nick fuentes for saying this or he's been really
01:21:42.000 beating this drum by pointing out everyone's talking about trump's deportations of all the
01:21:47.320 mexicans but if you look at the numbers he's deporting you know a thousand a day 500 a day
01:21:53.740 that's making headlines but if you compare that to what obama did obama ended up through his reign 0.99
01:21:59.240 deported like two million people like the amount of people like mexicans obama deported was fucking 0.93
01:22:04.360 insane like that's a little joke about obama that he might have been the last right-wing president 0.84
01:22:08.860 because he was the hardest on illegal migration truth is that the obama administration has
01:22:14.740 deported 2.5 million undocumented immigrants from the United States over
01:22:18.820 two terms. 2.5 million, that's the highest number for any president ever. In
01:22:23.560 fact Obama is on course to have deported more people in his eight years in office
01:22:27.460 than all of the presidents of the 20th century combined. I guess that explains
01:22:31.900 why his immigration enforcement budget in 2015 was a whopping $18 billion.
01:22:36.640 That's $3 billion more than the budgets of all the other major domestic law
01:22:40.300 enforcement agencies combined. Now the Obama administration says the vast
01:22:44.260 majority of the people it deports are people with criminal records felons threats to national
01:22:48.660 security which sounds reasonable except that a study in 2014 found that two-thirds of deportation
01:22:54.120 cases involved people who had committed minor infractions including traffic violations or had 0.83
01:22:59.280 no criminal record at all and he seemed to kill the most muslim civilians like he loved blowing 1.00
01:23:06.200 up fucking muslim well we'll see what trump may easily do more given how how you know cock thirsty 0.99
01:23:12.040 he is for israel yeah exactly like we we shall see however i think the lesson here is that if 1.00
01:23:17.720 you have deep-seated issues with the system be wary if they're just signaling that they're
01:23:23.680 reigning in their excesses without changing anything fundamental about it and hoping that
01:23:28.360 that they that that's the revolution that's the counter-revolution it's like no this actually
01:23:33.340 strengthens the you know the momentum of the deeper revolution which is yes dei is getting
01:23:40.680 swept away but is affirmative action still on the table and is your commitment to diversity still 0.78
01:23:46.740 on the table never mind how about the fucking the civil rights act like there's there's so much to 0.87
01:23:51.460 take away but they're not even gonna go they're gonna take you know it's a hundred steps forward 0.98
01:23:55.480 and two steps back and everybody counts it like a big fucking win yeah and like we'd always said 1.00
01:24:00.060 watch the tranny discourse because i still maintain that this is gonna white women are 1.00
01:24:05.420 gonna be left holding the bag for this they're gonna pretend that the tranny hysteria it was a 1.00
01:24:10.320 weird thing we all did. And guess what? It was all cooked up by these crazy white ladies. And I tell
01:24:15.600 you what, half of the far right is going to go along with that. They will love to throw white
01:24:20.320 women under the bus. It's going to happen. And two weeks after it happens, you and I are going 1.00
01:24:24.060 to talk about it on the podcast. And then six months later, academics are going to write
01:24:27.860 sub stacks about it. Yeah, because this is, you know, maybe we're just old. Maybe we're just a
01:24:32.700 little long in the tooth and we see this happening. But, you know, you read enough books and you want
01:24:38.080 to die because you've just seen it all but i wanted to set up what i'm going to say with that
01:24:42.340 which is that what is the nature of the system what can be changed and while we kind of rein in
01:24:49.760 the excesses that are public facing we don't address the real rot that's occurring that maybe
01:24:56.820 becomes a bit more cunning right so i'm talking about this book this book that extends the book
01:25:05.820 i see as working in concert with the last book we had discussed which is programmed to kill
01:25:11.320 and this is called eye of the chicken hawk by sam dovey um it's a fascinating book there's a
01:25:19.560 couple issues that i have with the book however one and i'll get those out of the way at the start
01:25:25.040 one is that it is it ends very abruptly um it seems very haphazardly put together it's a lot
01:25:32.900 of facts. It's a lot of data. It's a lot of good stuff in here, but I think it needed a conclusion
01:25:38.740 to tie everything together. But this book is primarily concerned with serial killers and most
01:25:47.000 importantly, child sex trafficking and child sex trafficking syndicates. And I use that term on the
01:25:53.100 last one, Program to Kill, because Program to Kill was challenging the idea of the serial killer.
01:25:59.460 Does the serial killer profile really exist if you look at what really happened in these cases?
01:26:05.080 This fuses with that and talks about child abductions, child sex trafficking, and how often these serial killers are just fronts or just the most public-facing part of these vast networks of pedophiles.
01:26:20.820 And let me just set it up by saying that these networks of pedophiles and consumers of child pornography, one could be led to believe if they watch the news that they're just consumers of media, right?
01:26:32.720 They just watch videos.
01:26:33.700 And I've come to the belief over, you know, reading these books and a lifetime of hearing these stories that there's no such thing as just a pedophile.
01:26:44.160 I think that's a psychoanalytic term by saying, oh, it's just someone who's attracted to children in that way.
01:26:50.060 Or, you know, perhaps we could create these images with AI, then what's the victim?
01:26:55.160 And I'm like, I don't think that exists.
01:26:57.260 Just like I don't think transgenderism exists.
01:26:59.900 It's like a bucket for a bunch of other strange pathologies, right? 0.91
01:27:03.640 Sorry, I cut you off there. 0.67
01:27:04.880 I was going to say, it's neat because with, well, it's not neat, but it's similar with pedophiles and with trannies who are kind of the same thing.
01:27:12.060 we've done such a good
01:27:14.580 job in previous generations of tamping them
01:27:16.560 down that
01:27:17.980 the only way they can exist is as
01:27:20.500 nodes in a web. They can't exist in
01:27:22.380 isolation because they get crushed from the outside
01:27:24.540 by the rest of us. So
01:27:25.780 when you find one, you always have to pull
01:27:28.460 on the thread. 100% of the
01:27:30.400 time, you will find a dozen others
01:27:32.440 the minute you pull on the thread. And also
01:27:34.120 these networks where they're
01:27:36.300 trading the media, guess what?
01:27:38.580 They're probably also looped in
01:27:40.480 with child abductions and snuff films and and and clubs where they're actually being trafficked
01:27:47.280 these people that's the whole idea here that these syndicates they have their hands in it all
01:27:50.600 and they're much they're much more decrepit than you might think so there's a lot i want to get to
01:27:55.360 i might speed run this um and i'm just going to read it and then maybe comment on it but it's a
01:28:01.420 it's a fascinating story it's if you look at the cover of the book it's it's a bunch of squares
01:28:07.740 connected so it's by this happened it's connected to this and connected that it's it's laid out
01:28:13.360 very very plainly and i appreciated that but i'm going to try and get to in a way where hopefully
01:28:17.900 it doesn't sound too confusing i'm not going to be able to get to everything there's parts that
01:28:21.260 i'm not going to cover but there is a through line to this entire thing that that connects
01:28:25.560 to john wayne gacy and mark detrue both of which we mentioned in the last coverage of program to
01:28:31.800 kill but also these these insane cases and this is one thing i also want to get to at the top which
01:28:38.540 is that if you are in this space you've been paying attention to all these stories every so
01:28:43.240 often you get you hear these stories or someone reminds you of this insane you know child sex
01:28:48.260 trafficking story that implicated the royal family or 10 downing street or the belgian government and
01:28:53.600 it's always a groundbreaking case you you tend to forget about it and what i noticed in this book
01:28:59.600 Because once you line them up all side by side, it all comes in a stark relief how connected they are.
01:29:05.340 And there's actually a lot of characters that show up in a lot of these cases and how connected they all are internationally.
01:29:11.860 And also maybe it's just the fact that the temperature of the water has been raised so slowly.
01:29:16.180 But I'm like, there's so many of these mind-blowing cases that we just forget about.
01:29:21.700 And again, if you just line them up all side by side, it becomes clear. 0.98
01:29:24.500 I'm like, oh, this is a real fucking problem. 0.94
01:29:26.240 and you can only interpret the uh the the governments and the police as being culpable 0.96
01:29:34.980 in this in covering up a lot of time so he starts off with a really interesting uh comment here he
01:29:41.020 says if art is a peak inside the psyche of society at any given moment then snuff film is sure to mark
01:29:48.360 the end of it the definition here is specific it's not just a film produced to capture a live murder
01:29:53.520 on film but one is produced for the express purpose of pleasing an audience live murder
01:29:58.900 films produced and circulated by drug cartels or terrorist groups are not snuff films but
01:30:03.420 propaganda and they are not necessarily intended to be enjoyed i think that's an important thing
01:30:07.840 right like these a snuff film has to be created with that purpose in mind and for a very very
01:30:14.660 specific audience now i'm going to just go through a bunch of cases that this is an extensively
01:30:22.120 footnoted book right so let's just take it that's where it says in 1985 a prominent manhattan art
01:30:28.460 dealer named andrew crispo was accused of ordering the murder of a norwegian fashion student named
01:30:34.040 igel vesti during a sadomasochistic orgy held in a backroom of his art gallery
01:30:39.640 infamously known as the death mask murder vesti's charred remains have been discovered in a smoke
01:30:46.740 house on the property of a United Nations
01:30:48.700 official named John P. Leggeros.
01:30:51.600 Vestie's naked body
01:30:52.700 was found with a leather gimp mask
01:30:54.500 slipped over his head, punctured by a bullet hole.
01:30:57.220 The UN official's son
01:30:58.580 turned out to be a personal assistant
01:31:00.460 of Andrew Crispo named Bernard Leggeros,
01:31:02.880 who was charged with second-degree murder
01:31:04.720 after a .22 caliber rifle
01:31:06.320 deemed to be the murder weapon was discovered
01:31:08.300 in his gallery. The 22-year-old
01:31:10.440 Leggeros stated Crispo had gotten him
01:31:12.360 hooked on cocaine and used him to
01:31:14.320 procure victims for S&M
01:31:16.260 encounters he claimed crispo had ordered him to execute vesti during a cocaine-fueled
01:31:21.360 sadomasochistic orgy that's going to be a theme in this book about how many of these individuals
01:31:27.620 they're sort of brokers for like these clubs you know i when i was in my hometown of kingston
01:31:36.040 ontario i was driving through there one day i remember there's rumors that there's there's a
01:31:40.760 lot of money in that town right there's a lot of old money and established figures and a lot of
01:31:45.340 history in the town there's all these rumors of like orgies going on in these mansions that they
01:31:50.200 would have just off of the downtown strip there and so every time i'm driving through the streets
01:31:56.120 right looking at these really old expensive houses i'm like what if there's an orgy going on in there 0.99
01:32:02.400 right because i bet it happens more than you think right we think that's just shit that happens in 0.99
01:32:07.820 you know silly horror movies but you know just drive down the street and wonder are there sado 0.99
01:32:14.440 masochistic orgies going on in any of these mansions the answer is probably yes so um moving 0.90
01:32:22.380 on he says upon being taken into custody and questioned um moving on to another case wayne
01:32:28.620 henley told police he knew of several missing teenagers this individual named coral we'll get
01:32:33.460 you in a second coral had killed and buried and for in a nearby boat shed henley directed police
01:32:38.460 to 4,500 Silver Bell, where Coral had rented a storage shed since 1970.
01:32:44.000 Inside, they discovered two 10-pound bags of garden lime,
01:32:47.300 a rake and a shovel, plastic bags of teenage-sized boys' clothing,
01:32:51.400 an envelope containing pornographic literature,
01:32:53.600 and disturbed soil beneath some carpeting.
01:32:56.000 A subsequent excavation of the bodies of 17 boys aged between 13 and 19
01:33:01.360 who'd been reported missing.
01:33:02.960 While initially vague in the explanation he gave
01:33:05.620 As to the relationship with Dean Corll and how he came to know about the masquerade, Wayne Henley eventually confessed to having helped torture, kill, and bury at least six of Corll's victims.
01:33:15.480 Dean Corll was nicknamed the Candyman Killer, and the motive behind his murders was attributed to his modus operandi as a, quote, serial killer.
01:33:24.440 A man driven insane by intense desire to control, manipulate, and kill led one of the most horrific serial killing sprees of his time.
01:33:35.240 Today, we discuss the candy man, Dean Corll.
01:33:38.940 Which is to say his motive was looked at for the pathology of a single killer.
01:33:43.360 Both teenagers independently stated that Corll told them he was part of an organization based in Dallas,
01:33:49.380 which bought and sold boys, and the other members of the organization were also murdering them.
01:33:54.220 So here we see the case of a serial killer, lone man, just exhibiting his predatory wolf-like nature.
01:34:01.820 But like we discussed last time, it turns out that they are in the employ of a much larger group.
01:34:07.480 And are they actually just killing these boys for fun or are they disposing of evidence?
01:34:12.980 They're just the fixers.
01:34:14.480 And how many serial killers are just fixers for these other groups?
01:34:18.720 And then they end up getting caught and thrown under the bus.
01:34:21.820 And then we say, we've got them.
01:34:23.440 The system works, right?
01:34:25.480 Or even the system of psychology just validates its own existence by saying, look, we found the aberration.
01:34:31.820 Well, these aren't just these are insane aberrations.
01:34:34.960 These are professionals working in concert with something much darker and much more expansive than you could ever believe.
01:34:42.100 So it goes on a few weeks after into that Dean Corral investigation.
01:34:47.000 Detectives in Houston received a letter postmarked August 24th, 1973 from a California man named Stephen Dale Ahern.
01:34:54.440 They checked with the LAPD division who told them Ahern was a member of the Nazi party and writes letters and some of the information he comes up with is good.
01:35:01.820 So he's just a guy who works for the police.
01:35:05.220 Ahern said Roy Ames was one of the largest producers of child pornography
01:35:09.440 responsible for around one-third of the photographs and films produced in the United States.
01:35:16.760 Ames is a widely reviled character already, just on the basis of his business practices alone.
01:35:22.900 In short, just about every underhanded move a record producer could pull, he pulled.
01:35:28.140 Shooting Phil Spector's wife.
01:35:29.380 Basically, he was the Barry Gordy of Texas country music.
01:35:33.020 And provided detectives with a list of magazines published by Ames in Houston, which were being distributed in California.
01:35:39.420 About a week after the LAPD Vice Division were contacted with the help of this,
01:35:43.380 they arrested a Hollywood-based child pornographer named Guy Strait, ironic, on September 1st, 1973,
01:35:50.020 for using unraged boys in his films, some of whom were from Texas.
01:35:54.280 Roy Ames was first mentioned in the missing persons file report when two of Dean
01:35:58.420 Crowell's victims disappeared.
01:35:59.740 So we're starting to build connections here.
01:36:03.260 Acting on this information,
01:36:04.780 police in Dallas arrested a 45 year old man named John David Norman founded the
01:36:09.640 address in the company of five teenage boys from the apartment.
01:36:12.740 Police seized pornographic equipment,
01:36:14.720 child pornography,
01:36:15.600 and enough publishing stationary files and literature to fill an entire van,
01:36:20.040 all pertaining to an organization called the Odyssey Foundation.
01:36:25.100 Among the files seized were thousands of index cards with the names and addresses of clients around the country,
01:36:31.280 some of them prominent people, and some federal employees in Washington.
01:36:35.480 The foundation had been set up to ostensibly operate as a non-profit mentorship program,
01:36:41.240 which paired adult sponsors with boy fellows for interstate education trips.
01:36:47.160 Among the file seats from Norman's apartment were photos and descriptions of available boys, of which four had the word kill written on them.
01:36:54.740 The timing and discovery of the kill photographs may have raised an eyebrow, but what happened with the Odyssey network clients raises both.
01:37:02.640 These would be handed over to Henry Kissinger's State Department and subsequently destroyed.
01:37:07.980 You're starting to get the sense that these networks are much, much larger than you might originally think.
01:37:14.920 and the other thing this is a thread that while we see this entire thing is how connected these
01:37:20.220 groups are to you know youth mentorship programs i mean this should surprise no one like you know
01:37:26.420 if if you were a pedophile what would you do well you'd probably try and start a kindergarten
01:37:31.440 wouldn't you so a lot of times they're sourcing these kids from these charitable organizations 0.99
01:37:37.240 summer camps shit like that so how many of them you know not all of them but obviously that's the
01:37:46.020 number one thing that you would start so and the other thing you get in the book is like throughout 0.98
01:37:50.000 the 70s and 80s and 90s there were so many child pornography magazines just in circulation
01:37:56.200 right it seems crazy now because everything has to be so secret but like these organizations just
01:38:02.100 had po boxes remember nambla that organization the national north american man boy love association
01:38:09.140 that was always a running joke i'm like there was like seven or eight other ones like that
01:38:14.060 that were just open you could just like there would be like a child pornography magazine with
01:38:18.440 like classified ads at the bottom with just guys names and numbers they say i'm a pedophile too
01:38:24.460 you know let's let's find boys together and it's just like you know you hate to even kind of
01:38:29.680 chuckle at it but this used to be so much more open right and people used to just what would 0.99
01:38:35.780 you do with the people who wanted those magazines well you had a fucking filing cabinet full of 0.96
01:38:40.140 names and addresses so that's how it was so easy to bust these things now continuing on with john 0.93
01:38:45.320 norman this guy's interesting from inside cook county jail norman was inexplicably granted access
01:38:51.900 to and this is wild here publishing printing and mailing facilities required to produce and
01:38:57.480 distribute literature for his odyssey network under a new name the delta project assisting
01:39:03.080 norman with the delta project from prison by the way was a young inmate named philip paski a tall
01:39:09.000 slimly built 20 something uh transvestite with long blonde hair serving fancy that how many
01:39:15.960 other transvestites were involved in this serving time for accessory to murder he pleaded down to
01:39:20.120 theft then in 1977 a judge inexplicably ordered norman's early release and he moved with phil
01:39:26.760 pasky into a basement apartment in chicago just to be short a 20 minute drive from where soon the
01:39:32.680 29 teenage boys would be exhumed from the crawl space of john wayne gacy what's the connection
01:39:39.680 of john wayne gacy well after john norman went back to prison in 1978 philip pasky the transvestite
01:39:46.320 lost his job at each lost his job as a children's supervisor at a public swimming pool
01:39:52.140 Jesus Christ
01:39:53.560 and his record show
01:39:54.720 went to work
01:39:55.660 at John Wayne Gacy's
01:39:56.700 construction company
01:39:57.640 painting
01:39:58.740 decorating
01:39:59.240 maintenance
01:39:59.700 otherwise known as
01:40:00.520 PDM
01:40:01.140 the thing of it is
01:40:02.860 they want you
01:40:04.000 to believe
01:40:04.960 that
01:40:05.400 I and I alone
01:40:07.100 committed
01:40:07.600 these murders
01:40:08.880 and I had nothing
01:40:10.860 to do with the murders
01:40:11.600 of anyone
01:40:12.060 if anybody was involved
01:40:13.340 then how many people
01:40:14.120 are we talking about
01:40:15.480 beside yourself
01:40:16.240 we believe there was
01:40:17.360 four people involved
01:40:18.300 and that would be
01:40:20.120 Michael Rossi
01:40:21.480 David Cram, Philip Paskey.
01:40:26.160 There was a crossover when we checked into John Norman's
01:40:28.780 background that he goes all the way back to the early 70s
01:40:34.420 involved in, he ran the Norman Foundation,
01:40:37.560 he ran Epic International, and the Odyssey Foundation
01:40:42.200 out of Dallas, Texas.
01:40:44.160 And these were organizations where wealthy men could hire 0.98
01:40:48.800 young boys for sexual for sexual weekends male prostitute had you ever met norman you ever had
01:40:54.680 any contact with norman i have yet to see a current picture of him and and therefore i'd had to say 0.93
01:41:02.280 no i you know phil paskey may have been with him at one time or another because see again i came
01:41:08.580 home from out of town at times and phil paskey would be at the house drinking beer or something
01:41:12.620 like that so we talked last time about john wayne gacy but oh the big fat clown serial killer found 0.93
01:41:19.900 all those dead bodies uh beneath his is the basement of the crawl space of his house well
01:41:25.580 the story really was that he was again working in conjunction with this team most likely sourcing
01:41:33.440 and kidnapping young gay boys or young boys that were trafficked to this large organization and
01:41:39.140 once again here's a serial killer a random aberration that seems to just have been like a
01:41:44.940 hired gun for this other group that was sacrificing him to the public saying oh that's the case closed
01:41:50.420 you know it says when detectives arrived at gacy's home the crawlspace was found flooded on account
01:41:56.200 of the water pump being disconnected after it's turned back on the crawlspace drained the first
01:42:00.340 human remains were on earth gacy was arrested at a gas station um as he was arrested he was
01:42:06.480 reported saying who else do we have the police station there's others involved during his
01:42:11.420 interrogation he named both david cram and michael rossi as accomplices who had buried the bodies
01:42:16.460 according to testimonies provided by both these men gacy claimed to work for a crime syndicate
01:42:22.120 involved in quote setting people up interesting um now going back to this norman character during
01:42:29.060 the period norman was involved with a group of chicago men who published a quote boy lover
01:42:34.620 newsletter called hermes the this underground publication was printed in chicago and used to
01:42:40.480 used uh coded classified ads to propagate the delta project odyssey network and advertise
01:42:46.320 mail order hardcore child pornography it catered to a readership of predatory pedophiles who
01:42:51.580 between themselves did away with the pretense of boy love to self-identify um self-identify
01:42:58.720 using the pronoun chicken hawk that's what they proved uh they prefer to call themselves
01:43:03.240 a hawk that hunts little chickens or in their case boys aside from carrying advertisements
01:43:09.300 from norman's trafficking network hermes also published advertisements for clandestine groups
01:43:14.160 proving support or providing support and instructions for how to infiltrate community
01:43:19.420 groups such as the boy scouts big brother programs and church affiliated youth groups including guides
01:43:25.780 on how to groom children this was just magazines they published right hermes was printed and edited
01:43:31.240 by men associated with john norman in chicago and was allegedly financed by a philanthropist
01:43:36.920 in the neighboring state of michigan named francis sheldon a scion of the old money families of
01:43:43.320 gross point detroit who owned a private island in lake michigan called north fox island this island
01:43:50.200 was used as part of a child pornography and prostitution network of international scope
01:43:55.160 so you're seeing these interconnected networks you're seeing you know big financing from
01:44:00.700 philanthropists through ngos and of course connected all the tendrils are extending out
01:44:05.600 to all these other organizations right there's this guy they caught named uh richard otherwise
01:44:11.960 known as jerry the magician they caught him with child pornography we'll skip that part
01:44:16.060 um so after they they catch him uh from prison this guy named richard sketched out a large
01:44:22.920 on an actual sketch, he sketched it on a piece of paper, or on a napkin rather,
01:44:27.340 sketched out a diagram of a large network of
01:44:30.920 child pornography operations, one which spanned from state to state,
01:44:35.380 coast to coast, right across the United States, and even the Atlantic
01:44:39.120 Ocean. According to Richards, the structure of the organization
01:44:43.160 functioned something like this. Most of the films were shot at Father Bud's
01:44:47.120 using boys from Troop 137 or the Adelphi Academies. They would be abused
01:44:51.320 either by paying clients or by members of the distribution range themselves.
01:44:55.100 Following this, the film reels would be sent to Richards to develop.
01:44:59.140 After this, he would send the developed film reels
01:45:01.060 to a mail-forwarding company in North Carolina called Mail-O-Matic,
01:45:04.420 where they would then be sent to a California-based chicken photographer
01:45:07.820 by the name of Guy Straight,
01:45:09.600 nominative anti-determinism,
01:45:11.500 to be duplicated and distributed by a company called F&F Distributors.
01:45:15.580 This is the same distribution company that Norman and Paske used to distribute Hermes.
01:45:19.820 and what does this also connect to the oakland child killer that we mentioned that last time
01:45:25.500 one of the most notorious serial killers in american history the oakland county child killer
01:45:30.720 was the moniker given to whoever murdered four children in oakland oakland county michigan
01:45:34.840 between 1976 and 1977 the victims are two boys and two girls all age between 10 and 12
01:45:41.660 the assumption that all four fit a pattern attributable to the same behavior profile of a
01:45:48.240 single killer doesn't stand to reason or even pattern recognition yeah the murder of mark
01:45:54.840 stebbins can reasonably be attributed to the way to some way to a pedophile named christopher bush
01:46:00.320 who is the son of general motors executive seemingly involved with a pedophile ring made
01:46:05.060 up of executives at the company there's this whole story here about like a general motors
01:46:10.060 and dupont family child sex trafficking thing that one's kind of shaky so i'm not going to
01:46:16.540 cover that one here it's interesting but it basically says like dupont chemical and gm is
01:46:21.300 run by a cabal of pedophiles not sure about that it's sensational but i'm just going to kind of
01:46:27.840 glaze past that um what he's saying here is that the murder of all of these children actually don't
01:46:32.380 fit the profile of a serial killer which is kind of what you need to be classified as a serial
01:46:36.700 killer you kind of you kill the same archetype you kill the same type of person usually within
01:46:42.440 your own race actually but none of these kids actually fit they fit what they would fit is
01:46:48.300 like different pedophiles trying to dispose of evidence right now he says in in 2004 detective
01:46:54.700 williams received a tip from a prisoner in california who had confessed to being an accomplice
01:46:59.240 to a murder back in 1989 at the time richard lawson prisoner was recently paroled in california
01:47:05.540 after having served time for involvement in a human smuggling ring with evidence stacked against
01:47:10.280 him and facing a life sentence he wanted to rat basically lawson provided drips of information
01:47:15.720 which described three individuals who were involved in the murder of timothy king one of
01:47:20.160 the oakland city child killers who he claimed had murdered in a snuff film financed by francis
01:47:26.000 sheldon who already talked about back then lawson said sheldon was a major backer of a chicken hog
01:47:31.080 organization which shipped child pornography to amsterdam lawson claimed to be part of sheldon's
01:47:37.360 operation and said he traveled to amsterdam in 1979 to meet with a child porn distributor named
01:47:42.420 kim tam ang so now we're getting international scope we have these key figures who are who are
01:47:49.340 power nodes as we discussed before you know the the square and the tower these individuals who
01:47:56.080 just kind of broke a relationship between all these people so now let's talk about uh amsterdam
01:48:03.360 for a second, we're talking about Francis Sheldon,
01:48:05.440 who fled Michigan as soon as the
01:48:07.080 investigation into North
01:48:09.380 Fox Island had commenced in
01:48:11.260 1976. The four-month
01:48:13.460 delay in the authorization of his
01:48:15.320 arrest brought him enough time to get his affairs
01:48:17.300 in order and just flee. So there's always
01:48:19.300 these implications that these people are allowed
01:48:21.260 to flee, or they're permitted
01:48:23.220 enough room to escape
01:48:25.480 by authorities.
01:48:27.600 And through his political
01:48:29.140 connections, he was fast-tracked to
01:48:31.060 Dutch citizenship, protecting him from
01:48:33.240 extradition interesting in 76 sheldon had given adam star child the kind of like a weird guru type
01:48:40.200 guy his power of attorney and transferred all of his assets including north fox island to an
01:48:45.440 offshore trust called the trust company of the virgin islands two years after this in 78 sheldon
01:48:50.140 had appointed a dutch senator named edward bragsamsra as primary trustee of his offshore
01:48:57.920 estate using an Amsterdam attorney. In Amsterdam, Sheldon started a new newsletter called PAN,
01:49:06.600 called the Pedo Alert News, which is just, you know, they're getting very explicit with this.
01:49:11.320 The first edition of PAN was published in 79 through a publishing house owned by fugitive
01:49:16.280 child sex trafficker, John Stamford. Stamford was a British foreign national and defrocked
01:49:22.620 Anglican priest who fled to
01:49:24.640 Amsterdam in 72. When
01:49:26.600 authorities cracked down on his operation in Amsterdam,
01:49:29.120 he hopscotch across to Germany
01:49:30.840 and transferred control of
01:49:32.380 his operation called Spartacus
01:49:34.920 International over to a German publisher.
01:49:37.180 A month later, it was reported
01:49:38.560 Belgian authorities had been looking into
01:49:40.680 a possible connection between Stanford's
01:49:42.680 network and the child
01:49:44.760 trafficking activities of another
01:49:47.040 serial killer
01:49:48.040 named Mark Dutroux.
01:49:49.780 now mark to true we talked about last time killer of children kidnapper of children dungeon in his
01:49:57.680 house infamous case once again the front man most likely for another organization or so he claimed
01:50:03.800 right um and here's where another part where it's interesting and a big door blows open on this
01:50:11.940 thing it says starts out by this in 1979 a brisbane woman reported a man to police for
01:50:18.120 photographing her son naked he was placed under surveillance and was soon caught doing the same
01:50:22.560 to boys he'd taken on a trip to the bushlands the man police arrested was 61 year old retired
01:50:28.400 stenographer clarence henry osborne a well-placed civil servant uh the material seized upon uh from
01:50:35.020 his home were forgotten about or in storage until a year later a detective stumbled across 12 boxes
01:50:40.780 of this evidence he noticed dozens of boxes on the shelves marked osborne within those boxes were all
01:50:46.640 these index cards i recognize names we're quoting the detective here i recognize the names uh it was
01:50:52.000 quite obvious there were members of the judiciary the legal fraternity there were politicians it was
01:50:57.280 the top and there was no bloody truck drivers or bricklayers amongst them the retired officer
01:51:01.680 who requested anonymity said a few years after osborne's death john stanford's spartacus network
01:51:08.500 would then be concretely linked to another much more high profile and consequential case in the
01:51:13.720 uk a club spartacus child brothel operating out of the suburban townhouse in london was found
01:51:20.620 servicing vip clientele including some parliamentary ministers the discovery of this
01:51:25.660 served as the genesis to what would later be known as the westminster pedophile dossier of 2012
01:51:31.840 so we've gone from america to amsterdam to germany now we're just in 10 downing street basically and
01:51:39.680 this is where people start noticing these cases that maybe they remember maybe they remember um 0.57
01:51:45.100 you know what was that fucking guy's name that radio producer in the uk hold on i gotta look this 0.97
01:51:52.060 up jen jimmy savile yeah so a lot of people hear that oh they found this preposterously deviant 0.99
01:52:02.820 pedophile the stories you heard about this guy are insane but you realize he's not once again 0.63
01:52:07.480 it's not just this one guy
01:52:08.920 he implicates the entire BBC
01:52:10.940 he's at how was he
01:52:13.560 permitted to do
01:52:15.500 what he did for so long which is like
01:52:17.460 he owned like a children's hospital
01:52:19.760 and was molesting kids all in the
01:52:21.420 hospital how were all these 0.55
01:52:23.580 organizations blind to that it wasn't just him
01:52:25.620 there's so many others implicated
01:52:27.640 in this
01:52:29.200 in sort of the upper echelons of society
01:52:31.020 and this is where we get to the Spartacus Club
01:52:37.320 We're talking about Spartacus International.
01:52:38.980 There's a place called the Spartacus Club in 1982.
01:52:42.040 By the way, is any of this tracking?
01:52:43.680 Is this making sense?
01:52:45.380 Yeah, no, I mean, this is something I had.
01:52:47.540 I had watched that Flesh Simulator video with a lot of the same stuff,
01:52:50.620 and I'd read some of these other ones before, too.
01:52:52.560 It is interesting stuff, and it does.
01:52:54.360 The more that you pull on these threads, they all tie together.
01:52:57.360 Yeah, you're surprised at how much overlap there is between these networks,
01:53:02.640 which I guess we've all been led to believe are simply independent.
01:53:06.120 they're just they just miraculously emerged but why wouldn't they be connected why wouldn't
01:53:11.200 the same sort of power nodes be trying to you know traffic between these these groups and if we
01:53:17.940 accept that none of these groups are just they're not just trading media they're generating the
01:53:23.580 media they're creating it they're making the stuff right and if you also accept that these are not
01:53:29.060 good-natured people you know these chicken hawk types right i think they're all chicken hawks i
01:53:33.680 think they all like we'd said at the start of this very episode that one black guy who's caught 0.97
01:53:39.420 jerking off and flashing the woman in that cafe right that's how they start but it goes from 0.99
01:53:45.780 there you eventually become a rapist right there's no pedophile who just stays you know looking at 0.95
01:53:52.140 the photos they eventually start doing it in real life and then cat it gets more and more extreme
01:53:56.840 and it always ends up the same way snuff films murder films right like you hear some of these
01:54:02.860 like videos describe like they're in dank basements like they're wretched like they're out of a horror
01:54:07.060 movie why do p why do these people seem to like the horror movie aspect of this media you must
01:54:15.180 ask yourself that like why does it sound so fucking despicable so here we go the met in june 1982
01:54:22.080 metropolitan police raided a suburban terrorist townhouse suspected of operating an illegal 0.97
01:54:27.040 brothel. The owners, a German
01:54:29.060 couple named Haroon and Colonel
01:54:31.000 Kassir, operate a suburban
01:54:33.080 hotel at the address
01:54:34.620 called the Elm Guest House, with a
01:54:37.020 sign out front which read Spartacus
01:54:39.220 Club. Now look, if I see a townhouse
01:54:41.240 with Spartacus Club out front,
01:54:43.600 I know something. I know there's
01:54:45.200 something devious going on there, right?
01:54:49.200 What happened at Elm
01:54:51.240 Guest House in the early
01:54:53.100 80s? Today,
01:54:55.120 it's just another family home
01:54:56.800 on a well-to-do suburban row.
01:54:59.920 Back then, it was something else entirely.
01:55:03.560 Something darker.
01:55:05.380 It was run by Carol Kassir, who has passed away,
01:55:08.660 and her husband Haroon, who now lives somewhere else.
01:55:13.260 But run as what?
01:55:14.960 It was billed as a gay-friendly guesthouse.
01:55:18.680 But the neighbours felt it was something else.
01:55:21.600 They saw posh cars parked outside.
01:55:24.200 young boys would be brought in and out of parties
01:55:27.800 but there's more
01:55:29.400 some of the boys it's alleged
01:55:31.260 were from local care homes
01:55:33.060 like the one that used to be on Grafton Close
01:55:35.840 not far away
01:55:37.160 after the premise was raided
01:55:39.580 it was reported visitors were provided
01:55:41.400 with a priceless menu of sex to indulge
01:55:44.120 with boys as young as 10 0.93
01:55:46.080 the owners of the Elm Guest House
01:55:47.900 were charged with keeping a disorderly house
01:55:50.880 and possession of child pornography
01:55:52.460 However, the latter charge was dropped the following year.
01:55:56.100 That same year, in 1983, a Tory MP named Jeffrey Dickens handed the Secretary of the Home Office a dossier on members of Parliament and the Queen's Royal Staff,
01:56:07.220 alleged to have been part of a VIP pedophile ring with ties to a group called the Pedophile Information Exchange.
01:56:13.400 little was made of it at the time but 30 years after dickens dossier would serve
01:56:17.920 at least in part as a basis for an investigation into historic allegations of child sex abuse
01:56:23.900 by a vip pedophile ring uh linked to parliament and prime minister margaret thatcher's office
01:56:30.360 at number 10 so you have sort of the start and stop of this case over time but it's a
01:56:35.660 it all becomes connected later whereas all these dossiers wind up getting lost or destroyed right
01:56:41.260 because who's implicated in it who are the individuals who are going to these these 0.99
01:56:46.380 fucking child sex brothels which are out in the open and again this is why people care about john 0.99
01:56:51.400 podesta this is why they care about comic ping pong do you think that just went away 0.99
01:56:54.900 this is stuff like these are investigations that have been happening all over the world
01:56:59.300 in belgium in amsterdam in fucking every so it's everywhere except the most powerful country on 0.98
01:57:06.360 earth right fuck off you know and the one thing you know what pedophiles is that i think on a long 0.99
01:57:12.840 enough timeline they it's not that they get arrogant but they almost want to be found out 1.00
01:57:18.180 they like flaunting it they get off on like doing it in public they like people knowing that they're 0.92
01:57:24.720 discussing like the flasher like the guy who wants to be seen jerking off in broad daylight there's
01:57:29.460 one of the guys in your story i his corel or somebody no it wasn't probably killed him he 0.79
01:57:33.700 died but one of the guys that was in prison for a long time they let him out just before he died
01:57:37.900 he was like in his 80s and he'd been in prison for like 40 years and like three days after he
01:57:43.600 was let out he was arrested again for soliciting sex with like an 11 year old boy at a supermarket
01:57:50.200 in broad daylight in front of his mother and it's like that's the thing so you have to realize like 0.57
01:57:56.340 oh what it's not that they love little boys it's they get off on corrupting children yeah 0.99
01:58:02.940 they're they're fucking demons dude yeah they're demons that that's all part of it it's all bound 1.00
01:58:08.400 up it's not even the sex it's the fucking corruption of the act and how much of everything 1.00
01:58:13.960 in orbit around it is despicable like that's what he liked about it right now just to build on the 0.98
01:58:19.920 elm guest house here near the end of july 1990 a teenager named andrew ash who at the time was
01:58:25.880 staying at the home of the social worker uh as a victim of the elm guest house claimed he was taken
01:58:32.240 to amsterdam in 1988 by a group of men from london and forced to film in a warehouse where a 12 year
01:58:38.900 old boy was raped successively by 12 men beaten with chains run over with a motorcycle and his
01:58:44.520 body dumped in a canal this had led to a joint investigation with dutch authorities in the 90s
01:58:49.500 into the production of snuff films in answer in amsterdam called operation operation framework
01:58:54.880 and why wouldn't that happen considering amsterdam was just see like the destination
01:59:00.220 where all of the worst child sex traffickers wanted to go i guess it's because they permitted 0.98
01:59:05.600 it's that in thailand where you just get fucking if you got five dollars you got free run of a 0.99
01:59:10.900 village for the day and there's a connection to a guy here named sphinx right he's running 0.93
01:59:16.520 something like the elm guest says one facet of the sphinx operation was to rent out apartments 0.72
01:59:21.180 in european child sex hot spots to foreign pedophiles who he then acted as sort of a
01:59:26.340 concierge to the same way uh spartacus international functioned with its host pedophiles around the
01:59:32.520 world like clarence henry osborne in australia sphinx name would also come up in connection to
01:59:37.060 the elm guest house in 2013 a scotland yard informant claimed to have seen films screened
01:59:42.960 at this place called the gay palace which showed boys age 11 to 14 being raped by masked men and
01:59:49.280 that sphinx the club manager was selling copies of a special videotape for 4 000 pounds of a boy
01:59:54.740 being tortured a different informant named frank described another film sphinx had shown him a snuff
01:59:59.920 film shot inside a barn of a boy being torched with needles and then castrated so you got these
02:00:05.140 guys it's like oh i have this stuff then they have this special stuff and like we said last episode
02:00:09.140 it seems that most of the time it was made to order which mean that to oftentimes locate these
02:00:15.180 videos you must pay to produce them yourself which has proved difficult for federal agents you know
02:00:22.160 if you have a drug bust you might buy the drugs right just to get it all set up but of course
02:00:28.320 you're not actually buying the drugs it cycles back in the system but if you wanted to catch
02:00:32.440 someone with a snuff film you need to pay to produce a snuff film which is why it's so hard
02:00:38.220 to do or one of the reasons anyway um so i'm just going to read these in in order and just try and
02:00:44.180 get them out here so in germany 1993 a 12 year old named manuel shadwell was reported missing
02:00:51.500 though little was done for over a year as he was considered a runaway in 1994 two teenagers came
02:00:57.120 forward complaining they'd been trafficked into the rotterdam sex trade the pair had been
02:01:01.560 prostituting themselves on the streets of hamburg and been approached by two dutchmen who offered
02:01:05.780 them large sums of money to travel to rotterdam to film pornography when they arrived their
02:01:10.080 passports were seized and had been forced to pay off the cost of their travel they met their boy
02:01:14.840 who said his name was manuel shadwell who matched the age inscription of a boy that of that name
02:01:20.180 they'd been seen in missing persons posters all over germany um one of glandorff's clients had
02:01:25.860 been particularly sadistic uh pedophile named martin smallers who actually murdered a boy in
02:01:30.580 1986 it was found glandorff had rented a boy to smallers to use in a torture porn film in which 0.94
02:01:36.620 the boy's testicles had been wired to a generator the hik report included transcripts of conversations
02:01:42.420 recorded from his phone in one of these a senior dutch government official with the first name 0.78
02:01:49.180 Joris had called Glandorf from
02:01:51.100 Poland asking his advice on how to best
02:01:53.260 smuggle a boy. The Joris
02:01:55.100 in question had been Joris Fracken, a bureaucrat
02:01:57.340 who worked with the Ministry of Health
02:01:59.340 who would later serve as
02:02:01.060 Deputy Prime Minister of the Netherlands
02:02:02.720 and would be viciously stabbed 0.65
02:02:05.260 to death in the garage of her
02:02:07.200 home in February 2014.
02:02:11.080 This is all connected to a larger
02:02:13.200 case of basically where we're painting a picture
02:02:15.040 here is rampant child sex abuse by 0.89
02:02:16.980 Dutch politicians. You start pulling that thread 0.97
02:02:19.140 and so many other politicians and bureaucrats come along with it, Dutch specifically.
02:02:25.940 So just going back to Mark Dutroux here.
02:02:29.160 So it says, according to one of these detectives,
02:02:31.600 Dutroux had mentioned a nursery near Roxanne Films where infants were used for pornography.
02:02:49.140 life. How has Mark Dutroux been able to operate so freely and for so long? He knew that he was not
02:02:54.380 going to be caught, that he was protected in some way. Tapes that allow him to blackmail a minister.
02:02:59.720 He is simply a small player in a much bigger criminal conspiracy. Big businessmen, there were
02:03:05.320 also politicians. Also people from the police. One, two, several children. They had sex with
02:03:11.160 them of course. Belgians lost faith in their judicial system and accused the courts of 0.97
02:03:16.080 colluding with the killers.
02:03:17.780 Mark Dutroux, who was admitting to this by this point,
02:03:21.360 was not a serial killer in any of the definitions provided by behavioral scientists.
02:03:25.760 He was a profit-driven and rather marginal figure on the periphery
02:03:29.800 of a particularly brutal child sex trafficking network.
02:03:33.800 The best place to start among the generally forgotten facts
02:03:36.520 would probably be the fact that Dutroux somehow managed to accrue enough wealth
02:03:40.860 as an unemployed electrician to own seven properties.
02:03:45.040 Soon after his arrest, it was revealed that he had around 10 bank accounts across Europe
02:03:48.480 and large sums had been transferred into and between these accounts over a period of 10 years
02:03:53.160 and large lines of bank credit had been made available to him.
02:03:56.960 The evidence suggests that Dutroux's main source of income came from selling girls
02:04:01.420 he kidnapped onto wealthy clients of an underworld business figure named Michel Nihoul,
02:04:07.880 something which was learned during a concurrent investigation into reports of men driving white Mercedes-Benz
02:04:14.020 is following and photographing schoolgirls
02:04:16.760 in the same location Dutroux was kidnapping them.
02:04:19.880 So he's a part of a team, obviously.
02:04:22.040 Investigators learned these men were part of a network
02:04:24.100 which put together catalogs
02:04:25.840 for prospective kidnapping victims for clients.
02:04:29.260 A client could pick a girl by her photo 0.99
02:04:30.940 and for a fee, she would be snatched off the street 0.58
02:04:33.360 and delivered to them.
02:04:34.900 Both Michelle Martin, which was Dutroux's wife,
02:04:38.120 and Michelle Lavier, an accomplice,
02:04:40.400 would say Dutroux had kidnapped his victims
02:04:42.400 based upon orders from this Michelle Nuhu person.
02:04:45.560 So he was just the guy grabbing the girls,
02:04:48.160 not the ones making the orders,
02:04:49.740 not the ones even producing these catalogs.
02:04:52.440 I'm just going to wrap it together with this
02:04:53.920 because just to tie it all together,
02:04:56.680 we get into the finders a bit here
02:04:58.900 because, and we talked about the finders last time,
02:05:00.880 so I won't really get into it much here.
02:05:02.860 Everyone knows about the finders by now,
02:05:04.260 but he just says here,
02:05:06.400 there's one theory that when MKUltra ended in 1973,
02:05:10.760 this line of inquiry the research in mk ultra had been continued off the books elements within the
02:05:16.740 cia turned from academics to alternative lifestyle communities pedophile rings and cults as conduits
02:05:24.160 carry out trauma-based mind control research and we do find overlap between all these things in
02:05:30.280 the 1987 case called the finders on february 4th 1987 and i won't go through all the things here
02:05:38.400 they found this group with a bunch of dirty children etc etc the children demonstrated an
02:05:42.400 unfamiliarity with the outside world and say the men had been in their teachers taking them to
02:05:47.140 special schools in mexico for brilliant children the finders men had been transporting the children
02:05:52.040 in a white van registered to a warehouse in washington dc inside the warehouse was discovered
02:05:58.140 a hot tub sauna facilities various film sets a video screening room a library containing books
02:06:05.380 on mind control in a room full of networked computer equipment with a satellite link on the
02:06:10.840 roof. A photo album found during the warehouse raid had contained pictures of men and children
02:06:15.740 from the finders group dressed in robes and slaughtering goats. The satanic cult aspect
02:06:20.940 of the investigation was left to circulate in the national press for about a week before the FBI
02:06:25.880 declared their investigation had uncovered no evidence of a federal crime. The newspapers of
02:06:32.080 records swiftly realigned themselves and became the voice of reason debunking their own coverage
02:06:37.020 of the investigation as a hoax reminiscent of the satanic panic the CIA aspect never became public
02:06:43.660 and the incident soon slipped away into the transience of the news cycle the leaders of
02:06:48.360 the finders whom the children called the game caller was a former air force master sergeant
02:06:55.020 named Marion Petit it turned out that his late wife had been a CIA employee named Isabel Petit
02:07:00.640 and one of his sons had worked for Air America,
02:07:03.620 a CIA cutout used to traffic heroin
02:07:06.440 in the Golden Triangle region during the Vietnam War.
02:07:09.580 It was also learned that a thing called Future Enterprises
02:07:12.980 had produced software training for CIA employees
02:07:15.320 and that an employee at the company named Robert Garter Terrell
02:07:18.460 was a member of the finder's Let Go in February 1987.
02:07:23.580 So, and I'm just going to end with this.
02:07:25.920 This is how the book ends.
02:07:27.000 And this is why I don't like it because it just abruptly ends.
02:07:29.800 Buried among these releases, sprinkled with red herrings, such as Ted Gunderson's diagrams of the McMartin preschool tunnels near the beginning of the first batch, were three documents of instantaneous interest to anyone who knew what they were looking at.
02:07:44.100 It turned out a list of names and addresses had been found on the finders men caught transporting children through Florida.
02:07:50.880 Two finders men had been found transporting six children in a van to Mexico.
02:07:55.240 with a list of addresses for one individual named in a case of NABLA members suspected of murder
02:08:00.560 and two named in John Orman's Odyssey Network, which you'll remember from before.
02:08:05.240 A Crimestoppers article mentions John Norman was still at large during the Finder's investigation in 1987,
02:08:11.220 and this is how it ends.
02:08:12.040 There is little doubt in my mind John David Norman had been an intelligence asset, wittingly or otherwise.
02:08:19.680 So that's how it ends.
02:08:21.220 Would have liked a conclusion tied in all that.
02:08:23.740 it lays out all the connections it lays out how all these groups interconnect all these child sex
02:08:29.760 syndicates overlap how they connect to the government how they create these sort of cut
02:08:35.220 out organizations to source children and we can you know hypothesize about the mk ultra aspect to
02:08:41.680 it but i do think the finders in this and the government's aspect of it and the cover-ups
02:08:47.940 associated with this it really shows you and this is what i was talking about with the thermidorian
02:08:51.980 reaction it's like they will sacrifice these serial killers these quote-unquote serial killers
02:08:59.260 as the lone gunmen of it all but really they are just the the greediest and sometimes the most
02:09:05.240 destitute and desperate and criminal minded to actually procure these victims for something
02:09:12.380 else this other massive dark shadowy thing and we see glimpses of it the finders are a glimpse
02:09:21.740 we get these flashes of 0.94
02:09:24.260 what the fuck is going on with the CIA here 0.99
02:09:26.260 why are they let go 0.99
02:09:27.620 what is going on, why is there goat sacrifice
02:09:30.660 involved, it's just like the McMartin school case
02:09:32.560 like okay there's tunnels
02:09:33.660 and there's things being produced 0.99
02:09:36.220 there's a whole fucking network 0.98
02:09:37.600 there's a whole economy of this 0.99
02:09:39.880 and that economy ties directly
02:09:42.560 to the organs of power
02:09:44.200 in the western world
02:09:45.780 say nothing of the middle east and Asia
02:09:48.640 like we can just focus on the western world 0.97
02:09:50.660 like this is an entire fucking it's it's the shadow organs of this society so anyway that is 0.97
02:09:59.700 eye of the chicken what do you think of all that i don't know i kept us a bit long this time but 0.98
02:10:03.520 yeah no it's crazy man i'm sure it's nothing though i mean yeah and and how how often do 0.97
02:10:09.960 you see it lined up like that all you gotta do is line up this shit this is sourced from news 0.93
02:10:14.200 articles research like this is known stuff but once you really simply tie it together 0.97
02:10:20.260 the scale of this thing is maddening yeah it's like gazing upon a lovecraftian horror
02:10:28.280 like where do you even begin like how do you like it can't just be serial killers it actually
02:10:34.580 doesn't make sense to say that john wayne gacy or mark the true were independent actors randomly 0.83
02:10:40.040 doing it like fuck off and if if the journalists are trying to convince you otherwise then they're 0.97
02:10:45.300 fucking part of it and so when we talk about a thermidorian reaction we cannot just accept 1.00
02:10:51.240 these sacrifices of the most you know narratively convenient bad actors and it's like no no no like 0.99
02:10:59.440 you need to hate this these shadow organs even more and it sounds conspiratorial when you say 0.97
02:11:06.020 but yeah it is a fucking conspiracy because it does happen yeah it's a conspiracy yeah anyway 0.99
02:11:11.300 i'll let you go that was i hope everyone liked that absolute bummer of a two-parter we've just 0.98
02:11:17.360 done but um people people need to know this people need to know that this is still going on like it
02:11:22.920 starts in the 60s and 70s it goes right up to present day like unless you think jimmy savile
02:11:29.080 was just the one guy,
02:11:32.020 the one guy in all of the UK,
02:11:34.300 the one celebrity who was like that.
02:11:36.760 You know, you're just,
02:11:37.600 you're choosing to dream at that point.
02:11:39.540 Yeah.
02:11:39.680 All right, man.
02:11:40.040 I'll let you go.
02:11:40.840 I know it's late.
02:11:41.440 Thank you very much.
02:11:42.220 I'll talk to you later.
02:11:42.680 Yeah, no worries, man.
02:11:43.440 Take care.
02:11:46.640 Hey, baby, I hear the blues
02:11:48.140 that call in top salad 0.99
02:11:49.560 and scrambled eggs.
02:11:53.440 And maybe I seem a bit confused.
02:11:56.460 Yeah, maybe.
02:11:57.320 But I got you, Craig.
02:11:59.080 boy oh boy here we are i am pleased as punch to be here this is going to be a good conversation
02:12:05.900 i already got a stack of chats who are jazzed at what's going on inside i've heard even a couple
02:12:11.980 people say this is going to be a good one if you can believe it i am here with some very esteemed
02:12:19.220 guests many of them i've spoken to before on my show blood satellite and a couple new faces
02:12:24.740 um one new face to be precise but i'm so glad that he's here greg wycliffe i'm gonna shout
02:12:30.960 them out first to make sure i get it out of the way look who do we got here who's on our dais we
02:12:36.960 got paul fahrenheit founding member of the old glory club author of the fahrenheit family archives
02:12:43.920 on substack who we got beside him we got fortisacks everyone knows if at 40 sacks on x
02:12:50.540 an author of Fortisax, is typing on Substack.
02:12:54.660 You just saw him there a second ago.
02:12:56.420 Greg Wycliffe, Canadian man extraordinaire.
02:13:01.120 Savefreespeech.ca.
02:13:02.320 You've got to go there right now and check it out.
02:13:04.520 And he's at Gdub on X.
02:13:08.460 And last but certainly not least, Endeavor.
02:13:11.720 You know, one of my earlier interviews,
02:13:14.140 who doesn't love Endeavor?
02:13:15.820 You can find Royal at Royal Endeavor on X
02:13:18.260 and Endeavor on YouTube.
02:13:19.600 Search him up.
02:13:20.540 co-host of classic movies with morgoth morgoth one of everyone's favorite people
02:13:27.620 enough said okay let's get right into it we're not going to take up your whole evening tonight
02:13:33.980 folks we're just going to have a real fun rip-roaring time what's the topic the topic is
02:13:39.740 the canadian annexation by the united states of america now we got a good diversity of voices
02:13:47.140 here we got some people who are pro annexation some people who are against it and we're going
02:13:52.800 to hear the the reasons for and against um and i know for the sacks you had even published
02:13:58.700 a sub stack as recently as today on this topic gearing up for the top the talk kind of laying
02:14:05.600 out your entire argument yes i'm not going to just throw to people we can kind of just get started
02:14:11.020 with whoever, perhaps you or Paul can say, maybe we start with Paul, actually. I would love
02:14:18.900 to hear a position on why Canada ought to be annexed, in so many words, by America.
02:14:28.100 Well, the question of whether Canada should be annexed by the United States is not a new one.
02:14:37.860 As a matter of fact, it has existed as long as the United States, as a polity separate from Great Britain, has existed all the way back until Benedict Arnold's failed expedition into Quebec during the Revolutionary War.
02:14:53.040 Canada was attempted to be brought alongside the other 13 English colonies in the Americas
02:15:00.600 as an additional member of declaring independence from the British and the Canadians chose not to
02:15:10.020 do that and the history worked out in such a way that Canada remained separate from the United
02:15:17.040 States remained a dominion of the British. And after the war, as Mr. Fortisax pointed out in
02:15:24.440 his article, many of the loyalists, the Anglo loyalists in the 13 colonies resettled in Canada.
02:15:33.080 And so in terms of historical self-conception, America became what it became, and Canada became
02:15:40.520 a sort of reflection of it, the sort of the path that wasn't taken. You know, Canada has
02:15:46.680 existence prior to loyalists resettling there. However, loyalists resettling there became an
02:15:54.500 inarguable part of its identity. But that's basically the whole point of me extrapolating
02:16:00.200 that is to let all of you know that this is a question that has been above the heads of these
02:16:05.120 two tribes for the entirety of their existence. To directly answer the question, though, as to
02:16:11.800 the case as to why the United States should annex Canada, I don't feel very strongly on the issue.
02:16:19.000 What I do feel very strongly about is the national security of the United States.
02:16:23.480 It may become necessary in order to maintain the national security of the United States
02:16:28.640 for the United States to annex Canada. Why do I say this? I say this because the Canadian
02:16:35.280 government has proven wholly ineffective at preventing infiltration of its government
02:16:40.260 institutions, including its military, by foreign actors. This is China. This is also Russia and
02:16:46.320 other various geopolitical opponents of the United States. India. India is not necessarily an actor.
02:16:54.220 uh they're not really a i don't really consider them a country they're more of a
02:16:59.060 anyway i'm not going to go into that speaking of which i just uh covered the
02:17:05.780 unrelated i covered the book camp of the saints by genre spale with a good friend t.r hudson
02:17:11.420 anyway go ahead yeah so the point is um canada has the longest coastline on planet earth you
02:17:20.320 You know, you're counting all of the islands, counting, you know, it's largely unguarded areas.
02:17:26.780 And at this moment, Canada is an obstruction to the territorial integrity of the United States.
02:17:32.220 The state of Alaska is kept geographically separate from the lower 48 states by the existence of Canada.
02:17:40.840 We, you know, all Alaskans do not have a land connection to the lower 48 of the United States by the existence of Canada.
02:17:47.380 um that is i mean and and there's there's more i could go into on that um i'm not going to talk
02:17:55.180 about economics because everyone knows economics um and everyone knows the economic arguments and
02:17:59.700 economics doesn't motivate anyone to do anything um it at least at least in discussions like this
02:18:06.140 lbj once said and i know we all hate him me too but it's a pretty good quote lbj once said that
02:18:11.660 talking about economics is like pissing down your leg it seems hot to you but never to anyone else
02:18:16.740 um and so that is i mean that's completely leaving aside the canadians aspect of this
02:18:26.740 in terms of a pure power politics perspective i could start getting into the power disparities
02:18:31.920 between canada and the united states and how canada's continued sovereignty is at the pleasure
02:18:36.400 of the united states um but here that's gonna be a good one in a second let's hold on to that
02:18:45.000 let's put a pin in that i wanted to also say that's my conclusion basically i'm going to stake
02:18:50.960 out because i don't want this to seem like a gang up i don't want to seem like poor little paul
02:18:57.900 fahrenheit up in here i'm going to actually make a case that is perhaps not as direct but more on
02:19:05.020 the side of annexation or perhaps geopolitical realities i was actually on an interview recently
02:19:11.200 with my friend Jason Mirinchuk of Mirinchuk Now.
02:19:14.760 And he, as a Canadian living in Australia,
02:19:17.760 he was very passionate that Canada
02:19:19.920 seemingly deserves to be annexed.
02:19:22.860 I hate using that word annexed
02:19:24.160 because when you say annexed,
02:19:25.940 it sounds militaristic.
02:19:28.400 Whereas what Trump and many others have been talking about,
02:19:31.640 right now I've got a Wikipedia pulled up
02:19:33.460 and I'm just scrolling through movements
02:19:34.720 for the annexation of Canada to the United States
02:19:36.840 ever since 1837.
02:19:38.860 And that's kind of what I wanted to start with just to frame this very loosely was that a lot of people thought we were having this talk, this panel, because of something Trump said, because it was a political flashpoint and everyone was memeing on it for a long time.
02:19:53.060 In fact, it was actually somewhat difficult to find Americans who there's more Canadians I found who are pro annexation than Americans, even the ones who are joking about it.
02:20:03.660 they were just memeing around fine well and good but uh i wanted to just say that it seems that
02:20:11.040 this has been a discussion that's been going on politically at least my entire adult life
02:20:16.440 um a good friend of mine by the name of laughing man he runs the sunflower society he was referencing
02:20:21.920 his political science courses when he was in university by saying that you know this is the
02:20:26.300 main reason we have NORAD, which was to prove that Canada has the ability to project its force
02:20:33.720 internally to secure this term that I've been hearing my entire adult life, which is Arctic
02:20:38.920 sovereignty. That's in the news quite a bit. In fact, I did have a couple of references here.
02:20:46.740 Let's just pull this up. Canada looks to reinforce Arctic sovereignty through diplomacy,
02:20:51.060 military says minister like it's been talked about for generations um and so trump recently
02:20:57.860 talked about well canada needs to pull its way do this or that um i've been that's going to be
02:21:03.140 a topic of discussion probably after trump and as it was before trump because and the fact that it's
02:21:09.060 a recurring conversation made it relevant to me that's why i was doing this because it ain't just
02:21:13.940 a meme it's not just a little bit of controversy you want to have there's actually a real discussion
02:21:18.180 to be at here. But it touches on a lot of things. It touches about what is Canadian identity.
02:21:23.280 It touches that manifest destiny from the American perspective. Is America's national
02:21:28.640 security at risk? I'll throw you a couple of bones there. And we've discussed this extensively
02:21:33.380 on Blood Satellite, my show, and on Vanguard's journal where I write and other people have
02:21:38.940 talked about as well. Sam Cooper is an amazing voice in Canada talking about the infiltration
02:21:43.520 from the Chinese Communist Party, especially on the West Coast. I don't need to go into a huge
02:21:50.220 diatribe about that, but when people talk about infiltration through India, China is a very serious
02:21:56.160 political one, and also controlling the majority of the fentanyl trade in North America. That's
02:22:01.420 something that America might be concerned about. And let me just say this, I don't think Trump was
02:22:08.580 serious about wanting to annex canada by making canada the 51st state as he put it um and there's
02:22:16.900 even a clip here let me just pull this up just what i'm talking about this people can hear this
02:22:22.180 i think i would love to see canada be the 51st state uh the canadian citizens if that happened
02:22:29.380 would get a very big tax cut tremendous tax cut because they're very highly taxed
02:22:34.580 and you wouldn't have to worry about military you wouldn't have to worry about many of the things
02:22:40.500 you'd have better health coverage you'd have much better health coverage so i think a lot of people
02:22:45.920 latched on the health coverage thing but if he were serious in my opinion he wouldn't talk about
02:22:52.260 making canada the 51st state he would actually talk about making alberta the 51st state alberta
02:22:57.560 and saskatchewan and then discombobulating the entire commonwealth from that like attacking each
02:23:02.960 province if you were strategizing about that. So that's my position by saying that there is
02:23:09.020 a legitimate conversation to be had about this issue. It's not just a meme. So whoever wants
02:23:14.680 to jump in and respond to these two points or go off on your position, feel free.
02:23:21.040 So there's a lot to touch on here. And to Paul's credit, I also agree with him. And he's going to
02:23:26.220 be hard pressed to find any Canadian who disagrees with him. Arctic sovereignty is a serious issue.
02:23:30.920 I remember a couple of years ago, Obama and Harper having a spat over who owns the Northwest Passage and who has more or less exclusive rights to sail through that area, namely because the Russians and the Chinese were allegedly claiming territory on the seafloor or trying to, given that it was international waters, so on and so forth.
02:23:53.940 so from the purely real politic geopolitical perspective yeah i i agree with that 110
02:24:01.340 most canadians want a stronger military the military has been a sinking ship for the last
02:24:06.760 20 years uh the military has had insane retention problems for 20 years most canadian veterans will
02:24:12.940 tell you that that is a open secret uh 75 of the canadian military is logistics it's not actually
02:24:19.700 combat ready fighting forces capable of projecting force or even defending their own territorial
02:24:24.900 sovereignty uh you can blame previous liberal and conservative governments for gutting the military
02:24:29.700 mainly if i recall correctly that goes back to pierre trudeau when he downsized the military
02:24:34.340 and merged them into the modern canadian armed forces destroying centuries of tradition for the
02:24:39.780 air force the navy royal canadian air force the royal canadian uh navy and the canadian army so
02:24:45.620 So 75% of the Canadian military is also bad.
02:24:49.400 No, no, he's not kidding.
02:24:50.700 So Nathan Rake has an interesting comment in there,
02:24:52.700 which is that 75% of the Canadian military is also obese.
02:24:56.340 Yes, it is.
02:24:57.480 I would not be surprised that that is the case.
02:25:00.000 Although I would counterweight that with the US
02:25:01.640 and say that 70% of young Americans
02:25:04.620 are not fit for military service,
02:25:06.220 whether by mental illness or physical incapability.
02:25:10.660 So there you have it.
02:25:11.800 Nobody really has an optimal fighting force.
02:25:13.720 So many things to touch upon here. We've already covered the divergence between Canada and the United States. Yes, 100% it's true. You did see a divergence a little bit before 1776. In the 1750s, you had early waves of Loyalists from Massachusetts going up into Nova Scotia.
02:25:34.560 uh new england planters in particular they set up shop there about half of them returned home
02:25:40.440 but then that would form as the foundation of the base for where most of these loyalists would come
02:25:44.480 from two waves of approximately 60 000 loyalists from new england and the surrounding area some
02:25:50.920 say also virginia the old dominion uh there were a lot of southerners of the united states many of
02:25:56.360 them high anglican who were actually quite loyal in fact the british overestimated their support
02:26:00.700 in the southern states because of this so you did see a massive wave of 60 000 in two waves
02:26:06.060 you have very early loyalists you have the main bulk of them in the 1770s to 1790s and then you
02:26:11.260 have later loyalists who set up shop in southern quebec now it is pertinent to say that this
02:26:22.940 divergence did breed a different nation entirely because as i had argued in the article i published
02:26:29.180 yesterday what you saw also was a social selection you saw a social selection for traditionalist
02:26:35.980 conservatism and not liberalism the ideological motivations for canadians not wanting to be part
02:26:41.980 of the secular liberal republic of the united states was mainly that they were loyal to
02:26:47.260 tradition and to the principles of anglican theologian richard hooker and also on the
02:26:52.460 the French case of people like Joseph de Maistre. So from the very onset, Canadians are a traditionalist
02:27:00.440 reactionary people. They are not liberals. The entire foundation of the state of Canada that
02:27:06.380 would only emerge in 1867 was rooted in this philosophical difference. And it led to two
02:27:12.180 completely different paths. One of them, and I know this is going to piss off the Americans,
02:27:17.000 One of them was basically a proposition nation, a very early form of a proposition nation.
02:27:23.080 When they decided with the 1790 Naturalization Act that citizenship would be free to all white men of good character, they started opening their borders to all 63 nations in Europe.
02:27:34.100 slowly but surely. And although Calvin Coolidge would maintain the preference for Western and
02:27:40.740 Northern European immigrants until the Hart-Scheller Act, actually, what seems to be the
02:27:45.380 case is this slowly started to include everybody and everybody into the United States. And by the
02:27:50.500 1860s, as I cover in this article as well, to recuperate from the losses of Anglo-Americans
02:27:55.500 from the American Civil War, they flooded the country. The movie Gangs of New York is literally
02:28:01.060 about this. It's about Bill the Butcher, who was an ethnic Anglo-American nationalist fighting what
02:28:06.040 he saw was an invasion of the savage hordes, namely Irish Catholics. Nowadays, we understand
02:28:12.380 the Irish Catholics are white, at least I hope. But back then, this was a serious, serious issue.
02:28:18.500 And what ended up happening was that the Anglo-Americans who founded the United States,
02:28:24.560 who wrote the Constitution of the United States, who wrote the First and Second Amendments that
02:28:29.300 most Canadians love and know and love and some of them want is a product of them a unique people
02:28:35.180 entirely so what happens is these Anglo-Americans are demographically displaced in their own country
02:28:39.940 with the exception of Utah and upper New England and some of the Midwest and some of the English
02:28:44.720 Cavaliers in the southern southern southeast states so H.P. Lovecraft in the early 1900s was
02:28:52.140 already loading a demographic decline of Native Americans and the term Native American is important
02:28:58.220 because it used to not mean the indigenous it used to mean anglo-american it used to mean
02:29:02.460 somebody of a british extraction who founded that country right so from the very onset although
02:29:09.440 you see trad cons today like or in mcintyre you see uh james kirkpatrick although i like him very
02:29:16.640 much you see many of these other commentators charles haywood talking about america and nation
02:29:22.320 they're still trapped in the same dialectic loop of liberalism which is they can't define what an
02:29:29.340 american is because they don't even share a european ethnicity from coast to coast they don't
02:29:34.320 they have no conception of it and my theory as i had written about previously was they turn to
02:29:40.040 racial nationalism to cope with that fact because they have no underlying uh commonalities italian
02:29:45.240 americans are different than german americans people have pointed out that tim waltz although
02:29:49.260 he is obviously a european american uh it's very characteristically different from people in new
02:29:53.660 england or people from the south you know paul himself is an appellation there are differences
02:29:58.860 between appellations and southerners right most people don't know that they think everybody in
02:30:03.260 the southern u.s is the same but they're not so right off the bat there's already i would correct
02:30:08.060 you i am not an appellation i am from the piedmont of virginia i would be closer to what you would
02:30:13.180 call a southerner than uh than someone who is appalachian okay somebody told me in the blood
02:30:18.220 satellite chat that you were appalachian so right off the bat there's already many many many of these
02:30:25.180 differences and then when you start to look at the demographic situation of the us which i also
02:30:30.940 covered 47 of the entire us population within the next five years is going to be european american
02:30:37.980 most of them seniors canada has a demographic edge mostly in eastern canada but canada has
02:30:43.660 the demographic edge with approximately 63 estimated within the next five to ten years
02:30:48.380 being european canadian mainly of british and french extraction and to me this is very important
02:30:53.980 because i identify that nations are peoples they're not propositions they're not abstractions
02:30:59.980 they're not nations of ideas an ethnos generates an ethos an ethos from an ethnos can rebuild it
02:31:07.820 can build things right when you don't have that in the united states and your demographics are
02:31:13.260 not in your favor and the vast majority of the inhabitants do not support the first and second
02:31:18.380 amendment statistically they don't and i'm taking this from the u.s census 2020 u.s census uh there's
02:31:24.540 just i'm really not seeing the benefit now to trump's credit and i'll end on this for the time
02:31:29.100 being to trump's credit the only thing canadians could conceivably benefit from uh from a merger
02:31:36.620 with the united states is a tax cut that's effectively it the first and second amendment
02:31:40.860 are relatively irrelevant in the Canadian context.
02:31:44.340 And we can touch upon that later,
02:31:45.520 but I'd like to let someone know.
02:31:46.920 Thank you so much for that for a sec.
02:31:48.400 Thank you for everyone, including myself,
02:31:51.200 who's spoken so far.
02:31:52.360 I want to throw to either Greg or Endeavor.
02:31:55.180 There's a lot that's been covered so far.
02:31:57.180 So take your time and state your piece
02:31:59.200 however long you want to take.
02:32:00.560 All right, I guess I'll go next.
02:32:01.760 So why am I opposed to annexation?
02:32:05.300 Why do I not want Canada
02:32:06.760 to be part of the United States?
02:32:08.800 First and foremost,
02:32:09.640 because I consider Canada to be its own unique independent country with an identity separate from
02:32:15.220 that of the United States. I myself, I don't identify with the United States, with the
02:32:21.180 Constitution, with 1776, Republicanism. I identify with loyalism and with the British Empire
02:32:27.660 and with Anglo-Canadian heritage. We have a history of our own, and that's something which
02:32:35.360 we have developed over hundreds of years and ultimately that is what uh is i mean ultimately
02:32:40.960 that's what's my motivation to to uh to do what i'm doing it's to is to preserve that uh and to
02:32:47.640 just accept uh canada to be absorbed into the united states would be throwing that away for
02:32:52.980 for the most part secondly i don't see any of the practical i don't see any practical reason for it
02:33:00.080 So how is this actually going to benefit Canada?
02:33:02.800 So like Fortisax has already mentioned, this would actually make Canada less white.
02:33:08.680 Canada, I mean, of course, we have our own problems.
02:33:11.140 We're not necessarily going to be winning any saving the white race competitions anytime soon.
02:33:20.840 But when you look at the demographics between the United States and Canada, Canada still is slightly more, it's still slightly more white.
02:33:28.780 and again it even has slightly more um what would be considered heritage canadians that being
02:33:34.380 anglo-canadians and french canadians so it doesn't help us in that regard uh
02:33:40.860 it just would further enslave us to global homo so it would i think the goal ultimately would
02:33:46.700 have to be to break off from this big globalist system and i would say from the perspective of
02:33:53.020 americans it would seem to make a lot more sense to uh want independence from washington if you
02:33:58.540 actually value your history if you actually and you know from your perspective of course
02:34:04.300 it's slightly different i have nothing against americans and them identifying with their own
02:34:08.780 history and their own culture and their own uh and their own people but if you are if that's
02:34:13.100 what actually matters to you you should want to separate from this system which is trying to
02:34:17.660 destroy that not uh bring more territories into that and i mean i'm even content that canada might
02:34:23.300 have to break certain parts of canada might have to break off in the future that that may be the
02:34:28.560 case um and i i don't see that i don't really i'm not buying any of these supposed benefits like oh
02:34:36.400 we'll get the first and second amendment well again i don't see that as worth it um to throw
02:34:42.580 away our entire nationhood, which we've spent hundreds of years building. And it's not even
02:34:48.360 like the American government really even respects the rights of their own citizens. So why on earth
02:34:56.140 would we expect that it's going to help us in Canada? I don't think it will. And in terms of
02:35:05.360 things like military alliances and security, well, the United States is also quite infiltrated. I
02:35:12.440 I mean, let's not forget the Zionist lobby and how much influence they have.
02:35:16.120 They basically control all of America's foreign policy and a good deal of the domestic policy as well.
02:35:22.780 I just think that Canada needs to solve its own problems.
02:35:25.500 And I don't feel like we need Donald Trump to take over our country to solve it.
02:35:33.180 I mean, are we so impotent that we just need some strong man from south of the border to come in and save us?
02:35:41.180 Well, I don't think that we should think of ourselves as these hopeless damsels in distress who are just so impotent and so helpless that we need someone abroad.
02:35:52.060 We need to throw away our entire history of independence, loyalism, of the crown and throw away everything which actually we identify with to have some strong man to come in and save us when he's, I mean, it remains to be seen whether he's actually going to do that in the United States.
02:36:08.240 Now, I think so far Trump has done some decent things for the U.S.
02:36:12.440 And I mean, I'm happy for Americans.
02:36:14.620 I hope that they do get the benefit.
02:36:16.640 But at the same time, there are some issues.
02:36:18.680 So Trump isn't redefining the United States as a country for European Americans.
02:36:24.040 He's a civic nationalist.
02:36:25.540 He's done some good work on illegal immigration.
02:36:27.820 I mean, he still has still a lot more to do on that.
02:36:30.600 But it's not like we can't do this ourselves in Canada. 0.76
02:36:33.580 So even the Liberal Party, as cucked and treasonous as they are, they've actually walked back on some of their more insane policies in the past couple of months.
02:36:44.320 So Canada is now taking action to reduce temporary foreign residents, and begrudgingly.
02:36:52.580 So it's not like I think someone like Trudeau or the Liberal Party have actually had a change of heart or anything.
02:36:58.260 But reality is creeping up on them, and they realize that they've created this disaster.
02:37:02.480 So I think we're probably already going to get a lot of the benefits of what I called in my video, America's Thermidorian reaction, that being the United States kind of reeling in some of the more radical aspects of the last 10 years since the Great Awakening.
02:37:18.420 So it's not going back to the pre-1965.
02:37:21.360 It's not going back to before the revolutions of the 1960s, at least not yet.
02:37:26.760 But they are trying to reel in some of the more radical aspects.
02:37:29.580 We're already seeing signs of that happening in Canada.
02:37:32.020 So I don't think we're actually going to get much of a benefit at all. And maybe the best, the biggest thing would be taxes. But again, like, I mean, that just seems so shallow. That seems to be such a shallow proposition to just throw away your country's sovereignty.
02:37:49.500 Now, I know Canada is not exactly a sovereign country. I mean, we're dominated by these crazy anti-white libtards, by Zionists, by Jews, by Chinese, Indians, and all these other groups are basically dominating Canada right now and the actual heritage Canadians. 0.95
02:38:07.860 And, well, we don't really have very real representation, but I don't think we're going to get that by even further enslaving ourselves to globalism. 0.93
02:38:18.280 So that's why I'm opposed to Canada being part of the U.S.
02:38:22.180 Now, Greg, we love to hear from you.
02:38:24.840 Again, a lot's been covered, but feel free to speak your mind.
02:38:27.820 yeah so a lot of good points have been brought up and um i'm you know i've been following politics
02:38:37.380 for some time now so i i'm most kind of concerned with like what is practical what makes sense
02:38:42.200 um like what is important because respectfully i feel like a lot of these conversations kind
02:38:48.820 of get caught up in sort of the you know the nitty-gritty or the details and i'm very happy
02:38:53.760 to be learning about uh some history here because i'm not a history buff by any means i'm not i'm
02:38:58.600 not a buff when it comes to like the founding documents of america and all this type of stuff
02:39:02.180 um however i say all that because a lot of the conversations surrounding this topic
02:39:07.940 reminds me of uh ppc pub nights what's that well when i first joined the ppc i would go to these
02:39:14.680 pub nights okay and i realized i didn't go to them very long because i realized they would
02:39:19.800 always kind of descend into these conversations of like well this this is the best system to run
02:39:25.860 society you know this is the best system to run society well actually it would be great and it's
02:39:29.800 all this very sort of like optimistic if i had the power this is what would be good for society
02:39:35.200 and i feel like a lot of the conversation is like that surrounding this it's like well if america
02:39:40.840 came in we would have this good thing and that good thing and this great thing and that great
02:39:44.220 thing and it's like well guys we don't have same thing with the ppc pub nights it's like we don't
02:39:48.720 have any political power at all none of us have any any power and we're not we're not near any
02:39:56.520 levers of power we can't do anything and even more so in this sort of niche or niche of uh you know
02:40:03.900 where this conversation right now is happening which is you know i mean i mean this in a loving
02:40:08.760 way political autists right like if you follow politics in canada you're a minority you know
02:40:16.360 like if you actually follow what's happening in politics, especially in Canada, you are certainly
02:40:20.840 a minority. Most people get their politics through like Instagram. It's very passive.
02:40:25.600 It's very casual. And I'm seeing a lot of the people who I really liked what Endeavor said
02:40:33.320 there of like, what are we damsels in distress? And all of a sudden, all of a sudden Trump is
02:40:38.280 going to like swoop in and save us. And it's crazy how many patriots, like Canadian lovers
02:40:44.620 are just like yes let's let's actually just become america that'll solve all of our problems and it
02:40:48.780 reminds me of the simplicity of people who just want to vote for polyev like that's that'll solve
02:40:53.980 all of our problems oh trump coming in that'll solve all of our problems and the fact of the
02:40:59.100 matter is like there is so many variables to how this would happen and every time i hear someone
02:41:05.260 say it oh it would obviously be 10 it would we would be 10 states of course would we what what
02:41:10.700 because because trump is a aggressive businessman we are coming to the table if this move forward
02:41:17.260 we are coming to the table with like not very good negotiators i wouldn't think who's going to
02:41:23.180 negotiate for us ottawa bureaucrats and you don't think we're going to get over in this transaction
02:41:29.180 we could become a territory with very little voting power because let's face it trump wants
02:41:35.020 territory resources and maybe to some extent you know um uh us as consumers i guess but you know
02:41:44.300 like like let's not get it twisted here like you know like trump has a very uh intentional reason
02:41:49.020 of why he would want to take over canada and its territory and resources just so you guys didn't
02:41:53.580 realize that has nothing to do with the uh the uh the well-being of canadians the priorities of
02:41:59.020 of Canadians. And, um, so yeah, like, and of course there's, and that's like, that, that's
02:42:04.860 what first comes to mind for me is all of this sort of optimistic thinking of how we get all
02:42:10.380 these things. And I was like, well, what's the flip side of that? It could be really, really bad
02:42:14.060 actually, if we go the other way, um, that all that being said, I think it's, it's a huge gift
02:42:21.720 from Trump that he's doing this personally. I think it's more of like a lot of talk. It's,
02:42:26.460 It's more like a negotiation tactic, and it's obviously super effective.
02:42:29.940 Everybody is talking about it.
02:42:31.520 But it's a huge gift, I think, for people like us because it's activating Canadians. 1.00
02:42:37.920 I got a normie talking to me today of like, wow, our country is so fucked. 0.98
02:42:41.500 Are we going to become part of America? 1.00
02:42:42.860 And it's a very sort of activating thing where it's like, you know, our leaders are terrible.
02:42:49.320 You know, like it's very clear to like normal people like how much of a mess this country is.
02:42:54.800 uh and i think there's opportunity there to try and leverage that in a positive direction however
02:43:01.100 a lot of the right-wing people are sort of from what i've from what i've seen and i'm kind of
02:43:07.520 seeing i'm not speaking to anybody specifically on this on this chat here but um like i've seen
02:43:12.120 some of it on twitter someone was like posting how again it will be 10 states there's all these
02:43:17.260 great things and i don't even necessarily disagree with any of that but why um why i think it's like
02:43:24.160 an issue is like for me the activating moment needs to be a how about how apolitical and
02:43:32.020 apathetic Canadians are like that is the problem that I've been trying to solve and trying to
02:43:37.940 address ever since I joined politics however many years ago however many years it was ago now 0.85
02:43:42.980 which is Canadians don't care about their own country Canadians do not get off the couch to 0.94
02:43:50.280 do anything and sure there's a lot of fat americans who don't care either but there there is a 0.95
02:43:55.840 difference there is a difference where americans treat their politics like a sport americans have
02:44:02.060 this autonomy of my freedom my constitution we don't have that here in canada and that's why i
02:44:08.240 find it so it's so ironic or it's i don't know if it's ironic or whatever but you know there's all
02:44:13.500 these people these these americans sorry these canadian right wingers who who are like yeah
02:44:17.800 we'll get all the benefits of the american constitution it's like well you need a population
02:44:24.220 of people who want to enforce the constitution for the constitution to mean anything you know
02:44:29.440 what i mean so if we have canadians still living in canada but now it's america we're still going
02:44:33.740 to have a whole bunch of apathetic people here who don't care to put pressure on the politicians
02:44:37.640 don't care to actually engage like all of a sudden once we become american we're going to have all 0.99
02:44:42.540 the people living here like suddenly start to give a shit about politics you know because if you look 0.97
02:44:47.260 at the problems in our country, it's coming from a lack of civic engagement. It's coming from a 0.99
02:44:53.520 lack of intense political participation. We're getting outmaneuvered by the World
02:45:00.460 Sikh Organization, Sikhs who are alien to the historic makeup of Canada, and they're infiltrating
02:45:07.860 our political institutions, all types of the trucking industry, you name it. They're outmaneuvering
02:45:14.460 us and taking over our institutions and you know until more canadians start to fight back and start 0.99
02:45:21.340 to give a shit and start to try and claw their way into uh into politics and start caring i don't see 0.97
02:45:27.820 how you know the problem is going to be solved because if we just become america how do those 0.99
02:45:32.840 problems just go away isn't it just going to be like a new sort of system just with the same people
02:45:38.180 participating in it like if someone can answer that question i don't know because you know another
02:45:43.000 sort of totally naive part of the conversation of people wanting to be annexed is like they
02:45:49.800 actually believe that what american bureaucrats like like everyone in ottawa is going to be fired
02:45:54.920 or something and like like all the ottawa bureaucrats are just going to go away or something
02:45:59.240 like like all these corrupt pieces of who only care about their pensions are suddenly just going
02:46:04.440 to be like you know a bunch of american patriots are going to come in and just remove them out of
02:46:09.560 office and now and then here's the thing and now what now american patriots are going to be ruling
02:46:14.360 our institutions like it's it's is that good is that better how do we know like why is it so much
02:46:20.160 better to be ruled over by washington dc than it is ottawa it's not well there's a great comment
02:46:26.500 here by lee stewie all the maple magatars have never once attended a town hall or city council
02:46:32.180 meeting and that touches on something you were just saying there greg and something i was even
02:46:35.540 talking to mr fahrenheit before the stream which is the simple question of what hypothetically i
02:46:41.360 know we're all internet guys talking about this but what actually would be in it for america and
02:46:47.980 there's a case we've made for resources and arctic sovereignty and whatnot but i think we'd already
02:46:52.560 discussed that would canadian patriots love the constitution would they fight would they die for
02:46:59.820 the american constitution probably not so like what what actually would be gained and but that
02:47:05.440 reveals an interesting phenomena in canada something that i've been trying to fight against
02:47:11.320 for much of my adult life i know fortisacks and many other canadian nationalist types do this
02:47:15.940 which is that it seems that no matter what even now canada seems to define its vigor by reaction
02:47:23.640 to america and what is to be done about that like look how many canadian patriots have appeared
02:47:28.040 the moment uh mean american said something liberal conservative all kinds of different
02:47:32.980 ideologies but that's how canada has been defining itself most of my life it's we the
02:47:38.920 canadian identity is we're not americans we're more this is what the liberals would say but
02:47:43.560 even the conservatives when i was young we are more engaged we're more enlightened you know we're 0.98
02:47:48.520 we're not brash we're not jerry springer country like those fucking americans but i'm like at no 0.97
02:47:53.700 point have we generated our own distinct identity and that presents certain problems however we need 0.98
02:48:00.020 to answer that question because even now it seems that look at what trump did and look at what you
02:48:06.280 know a few talking heads are through the entire nation into discombobulation we have you know it's
02:48:11.820 it is preposterous that we're talking about this but you know who else is talking about it 0.96
02:48:15.640 mayors throughout the fucking country you know politicians are talking about this in canada as 0.98
02:48:21.500 if it's serious they're joking about it but tariffs aren't fucking around you know there's 0.99
02:48:26.660 actual consequences to these things and look what a few words we're able to do to discombobulate the
02:48:32.280 entire nation and to cause this electrical surge of patriotism however is not generated from within
02:48:40.260 and i think therein lies the problem and it seems just to greg's point that canadians broadly aside
02:48:48.060 from all our friends are not ready to even have a serious conversation about what a canadian is
02:48:54.780 except something that is opposed to america any thoughts on that so i've got a few and there's a
02:49:02.620 few contextual and very important things to mention here firstly i don't agree with the framing that
02:49:09.020 our reaction to the states in this situation or in the past is a liberal phenomenon because it's not
02:49:16.560 it was hijacked by the liberals in the 60s that is a primordial instinct in canadians that goes
02:49:22.600 back to the very founding it goes back to the very very beginning of canadians existence as a
02:49:27.960 people and it was rooted in real things that mattered such as republicanism the crown god
02:49:34.520 king and country so on and so forth our very philosophical foundation uh so there's a part
02:49:39.920 of that there in uh just for clarity i was talking more recently not yeah yeah as well
02:49:45.660 no no you're absolutely right and the other thing is you know the reason you i would argue the
02:49:50.700 reason you don't see so much political participation is is purely the diversity and you can actually
02:49:55.520 scale this with how diverse a society is uh you can scale that with how high trust the society is
02:50:01.860 the more diverse a society the less high trust it is the less civic participate uh the less civic
02:50:06.560 participation there is the less engagement with political systems and communities there is uh so
02:50:12.000 So, you know, that is a, it could be argued that that's a side effect of that. It's a side effect of the, of the multicultural post-national implementation. If nobody feels like they're represented, except for the people who are attempting to exploit the nation and its, and its mechanisms in government, then, then what do you have, right? You have nothing.
02:50:30.740 great point any other thoughts on i guess we're getting something to call the nature of identity
02:50:38.860 and you had actually for a second you had a couple of questions that came through previously
02:50:43.220 um one i'm trying to look for it here but it was the question of whether in you specifically in
02:50:49.880 your mind uh the canadian identity would include um eastern europeans italians maybe other european
02:50:58.180 immigrants you know when people talk about mass migration or immigration they tend to think of
02:51:02.740 you know india china however canada's history with mass migration was also from europe and it
02:51:07.920 caused a lot of controversy at the time all through the 20th century so in your opinion
02:51:11.360 on the topic of canadian identity would that include um italians ukrainians and the like
02:51:17.780 let's no let's i know you addressed that to fortisacks but let's cut right to the heart of
02:51:22.160 the issue the largest structural problem with the canadians with the canadian identity with
02:51:27.820 the whole concept of a Canada, is that it is founded upon attempting to make two separate
02:51:33.540 nations with two separate languages, two separate confessional heritages, two separate histories
02:51:39.440 that, you know, that genocided each other on the Canadian landmass, attempting to take that and to
02:51:47.540 forge that into one coherent identity. That is the greatest structural problem with Canada,
02:51:54.460 is this pretension, this idea that you can make Anglo-Canadians and Quebecois one nation
02:52:00.560 as though they are one people, as though the Battle of the Plains of Abraham didn't happen.
02:52:05.800 We did, though.
02:52:07.600 You did not. It is failing. You did not. It is failing.
02:52:11.620 It's failing now. And what did you do? You created a proposition nation and wiped your
02:52:15.980 own founders off the planet. You don't know anything about the founding of the United States.
02:52:20.540 First of all.
02:52:21.020 You know nothing about the founding of the United States.
02:52:23.060 i say that i say that didn't america implicate black slaves into their like national identity
02:52:29.980 though that's arguable but you some people make that argument well i mean okay i just think it's
02:52:37.260 you know that's i feel like this is kind of just picking something from history and being like
02:52:41.320 that that's why you're not a real nation and it's like well you that's one example and it was one
02:52:46.080 that certainly defines us but um yeah i don't know the requirement of bilingual uh status of
02:52:53.600 all people in government is a massive waste of energy no nation that has attempted it before
02:52:59.900 has succeeded in the long run you cannot buck two ethnosis with two the specific thing here is more
02:53:06.780 so the specific thing here is more so two languages not so much two different ethnicities
02:53:13.280 its two languages uh language can overcome a great deal um you said that you said that people
02:53:19.080 genocided each other i mean yeah sure there was a there was a fight between them but i mean
02:53:23.260 compared to historically comparatively that's it was pretty it was pretty mild like there hasn't
02:53:28.360 even been any the acadians ceased to exist the entirety of nova scotia was a french colony that
02:53:35.680 was removed so i just looked it up in swiss parliament its uh debates are held in german
02:53:41.720 and french majority is switzerland a real nation to you or is is canada switzerland
02:53:48.980 is canada yeah but dude you're you're saying like definitively you can't have a nation if
02:53:54.040 there's two different languages like that you cannot have a nation if there's two different
02:53:57.160 languages switzerland is a negation zone switzerland the joke is is that if you go to
02:54:01.460 the swiss cantons they can't tell you who the president is switzerland is not so much a federal
02:54:05.260 entity that's exactly what it defines itself against it's a confederation that's what switzerland
02:54:09.360 is it's not a real nation in the sense that it's a federal entity i think the large the large
02:54:15.440 geographic land mass i think is is the larger challenge for canada because it is so large it
02:54:21.360 is so vast and um i think that is a you know one of the challenges that we have to overcome
02:54:28.240 a great example is it's not just english and french it's alberta hates quebec quebec hates
02:54:33.760 alberta um sure i and i i wouldn't disagree that like this this weird um you know glass ceiling of
02:54:41.860 needing to be bilingual and this weird sort of a laurentian elite this intersection of ottawa
02:54:46.720 between ontario and quebec most certainly you see it even in the political scandals with like snc 0.98
02:54:52.240 lavelin all these like weird gangsters between ottawa and montreal just fucking jerking each 0.83
02:54:57.280 other off and filling each other's pockets absolutely but um i think you're kind of 0.95
02:55:01.940 jumping the gun there to say that
02:55:03.520 that's why you guys can't be a country anymore.
02:55:05.920 I didn't. You put words in my mouth.
02:55:07.940 I didn't say you
02:55:09.760 cannot be a country. I said that is the greatest
02:55:11.620 structural problem with Canada as a nation
02:55:13.880 is that it is attempting to be two things at once.
02:55:17.280 There is
02:55:17.880 an interesting thought pattern
02:55:19.760 there, which is, could you, is
02:55:21.380 this Commonwealth of Canada
02:55:23.620 possible long-term
02:55:25.560 or is it inevitable that it will
02:55:27.260 eventually cleave along the line
02:55:29.520 of Anglophone and Francophone?
02:55:31.940 So I'm going to look, I'm going to point out three different things. And to your credit, Dimes, you actually made a point in point not too long ago. I believe it was on your discussion with Marin Chuck, where you said that core to the Canadian identity has always been this push and pull between ethnic Anglo-Canadians and French Canadians. And I think that there's something to that.
02:55:53.120 I think that they work as forces in some ways that stabilize each other and remind them of who they are.
02:56:00.380 And they also keep each other in check. And historically, this has always been the case, as a matter of fact.
02:56:05.820 Now, to the point as well, the founders of Confederation in 1867, a great many of them were Francophone.
02:56:13.020 They were actually pro-Anglo Francophones. Not too long ago, a couple of days ago, I posted a number of quotes from a number of those fathers of Confederation.
02:56:21.060 and also we are a confederation we're a confederal entity or rather we're a federation but we're
02:56:26.300 modeled on a confederal model so we do have a great deal of decentralization the provinces
02:56:32.180 are nominally in some ways more independent than u.s states are but in other ways u.s states are
02:56:38.400 more independent than canadian provinces are so there is a great deal of decentralization and
02:56:44.120 yes yeah you know there's always been a tension between the unitary character of canadians
02:56:48.180 We are inherently authoritarian. We pretend that we're not. We pretend that we're liberals. We've made liberalism our ideology since the 60s. The fact of the matter is that it's not in our character. It's not in our temperament. The evidence of this is in how we treat gun laws and free speech and property rights. Technically, we have no property rights or rights to private property. We have the right to own guns, but we have severe restrictions. We might have free speech and freedom of expression, but we also have limitations on that with hate speech.
02:57:14.440 so yeah you're you know that's 100 true on the fundamental differences between the english or
02:57:19.820 the anglo-canadians and the french canadians uh they united and formed the country on the basis
02:57:25.060 of their rejection of liberal ideas that was the unifying force uh the french viewed themselves as
02:57:30.780 the last bastion of the ancien regime and of course the anglo-canadians were were loyalists
02:57:35.220 and they had that in common and what you did see in canada's early history was a lot of early
02:57:39.620 religious crossovers a lot of intermarriages uh myself my own family comes from this so while
02:57:44.900 there was tension yes the acadians were deported what you didn't mention and perhaps you didn't
02:57:49.540 know this many people don't know this to your credit uh the acadians were actually invented
02:57:53.560 invited back that's why new brunswick is the only officially bilingual province in the country
02:57:58.300 because they were invited back and they actually pretty much run the entirety of northern new
02:58:03.840 brunswick so they are there to this day conversely the cajuns who went down to louisiana
02:58:08.860 disappeared they were assimilated and they were turned into a tourist attraction but uh so yeah
02:58:14.800 so we did manage to make this experiment work for 230 years really until the 1960s when the
02:58:20.720 communists subverted the sovereignist movements of Quebec well the other the other point is that
02:58:25.620 the reason it kind of works is because French Canadians have their own unique part of the
02:58:31.060 country so it's not like uh it's not like all of the country is is like 70 percent Anglo-Canadian
02:58:37.700 and 30% French-Canadian, at least historically.
02:58:41.200 Well, they were concentrated in Quebec,
02:58:43.820 so they had their own kind of polity
02:58:45.480 where they could have their own,
02:58:47.240 where Quebecois culture is dominant,
02:58:49.880 and then outside of that,
02:58:51.620 Anglo-Canadian culture is dominant everywhere else.
02:58:54.260 So, I mean, in terms of local politics,
02:58:58.140 you didn't really have that.
02:58:59.660 That really wasn't as much of an issue.
02:59:01.200 It seems like it's more of a federal thing.
02:59:03.020 But I mean, getting back to the point of the discussion, though,
02:59:05.580 So how on earth is us joining the United States going to actually solve any of these problems for Canada or for the U.S.?
02:59:13.680 I mean, if Canada has a problem with having French Canadians and Anglo Canadians, well, I mean, the U.S. has that problem times 10 with with the issue with the pounding stock of America,
02:59:25.240 then the blacks, the Irish, the Italians and now Hispanics, everyone else who has come since then.
02:59:30.660 And so with Canada, we now have the problem with Indians and Chinese and Muslims, whoever else you want to throw in there, native Canadians.
02:59:41.460 But I just don't see how if the big problem here is the lack of homogeneity, which I agree that this is the problem, that it is the ultimate problem is with this idea of multiculturalism and the idea that you can just slot any person into any kind of system.
02:59:58.560 And if they just have the right values, then it's going to work.
03:00:03.160 And this is an idea which basically comes from the U.S.
03:00:06.280 I'm not saying I blame Americans for Canada adopting this idea, but the United States was very influential on both Canada and Europe in adopting this idea of the proposition nation.
03:00:18.140 I mean, how on earth is Canada going to actually solve this problem by becoming a U.S. state?
03:00:22.480 That's just going to make the whole thing worse.
03:00:25.500 I just want to piggyback on that point.
03:00:28.560 And more so from the Canadian perspective, right? Because a lot of the Canadians that think becoming America will be better, it's like, well, it's not like there's going to be a huge migration of different peoples. And in Ottawa, the problem has been that it's not Canadian interests first. It's the interests of lobbyists. It's the interests of foreign special interest groups that have like infiltrated the institutions in Ottawa.
03:00:51.440 And then on top of that, it's Quebec interests seems to be able to bully people around in in Ottawa to make final decisions.
03:00:58.980 And then on top of that, it'll be, well, American interests right on top of all of that, as if everything else below that would go away.
03:01:07.560 It's like, no, it would just make everything even more complicated.
03:01:10.420 And for those, if you forgot, Canadian interest is at the very bottom of that totem pole.
03:01:16.600 And let's let's remember our elite theory here.
03:01:19.500 All right. The Quebecois self-conceive as a group separate from the rest of Canada, even if they conceive of themselves as a group within Canada.
03:01:27.040 I completely agree with the point. They're not a majority. They're generally concentrated in one area.
03:01:31.980 But they are an organized minority within Canada at the expense of the majority, which is Anglo-Canadians.
03:01:37.980 And they very much push government policy to favor their specific province over other provinces.
03:01:44.240 This is why you cannot have a bilingual state, because one will be the majority, one will be the minority. The organized minority will utilize its power, will utilize its influence to push around the majority. This is how it works. This is how elite theory works.
03:01:59.880 And this is this has been a problem with Canada and more so, you know, that's hijacking is largely due to the Québécois. All right. I'm not here to blame them or to or to or to cast anything on their feet as a people. Right. I'm not I'm not here. I'm not here to claim that the Canadians aren't a people. They clearly are. You know, the Québécois clearly are. All right. And I'm not even really here to sell to Canadians the annexation of Canada by the United States. Frankly, I don't really want it to happen.
03:02:28.620 I don't care. I think the juice isn't worth the squeeze for the United States. But the problem is, and the point I am making is, is that if that decision comes and that decision does occur, Canada doesn't get a say into whether it happens.
03:02:46.620 Canada doesn't decide whether the United States will annex or not.
03:02:50.180 The United States decides that. 0.91
03:02:52.220 And I'm not saying that as like a rah-rah, America is great and, you know, Canadians are just so tiny and puny, et cetera.
03:02:57.880 But no, what manpower can you put in the field?
03:03:01.080 What domestic military industry do you have?
03:03:03.900 What food production do you have?
03:03:05.780 What oil do you have?
03:03:06.880 Yes, you have it in Alberta, but you have to bring it all the way across Canada to Ottawa where the large concentration of your military infrastructure is.
03:03:13.600 The point is, and what I came on here, I didn't come on here to sell America annexing Canada.
03:03:20.860 I came on here to sell to you Canadians that you must look at the state of your country right now.
03:03:27.060 You must understand the failures that have occurred, and you cannot blame America for it.
03:03:32.280 You cannot blame America for it.
03:03:34.200 You've done it to yourselves.
03:03:36.200 I'm certainly not blaming America.
03:03:37.240 Who's blaming America for it?
03:03:39.040 No, I'm not saying you all gentlemen are, but many Canadians do.
03:03:42.720 Many Canadians blame America for the state of their problems, just as many Europeans blame America for the state of their problems.
03:03:48.920 Many of these decisions are domestic decisions made by Canadian politicians.
03:03:52.860 And also, if I can just jump in there, I just want to jump in there just to, because I'm going to let you guys go off in a second, but just to make sure that I sort of build into Paul's point there, there is a conversation to be had about whether or not this is inevitable, this annexation.
03:04:09.400 So remove it from the morality of it. Remove it from anything that we think ought to happen. If we look at it from sort of a neorealist approach of just pure geopolitics, if there are resources in Canada that are not being exploited, many Canadians would agree on this.
03:04:26.200 And if there is a credible national security threat, doesn't matter what it is, let's just say it is, is it inevitable that if Canada cannot exert its own sovereignty against these forces, and it seems to affect America, will someone step in? 0.98
03:04:40.940 because you know if you always think back to um fuck what's his fucking name um anyway is this 0.97
03:04:47.980 idea that sovereignty isn't a status it is a space to be occupied that if you cannot control 0.99
03:04:55.300 your land someone will inevitably step into it which and if america if canada becomes a void
03:05:02.840 and it's federal government nothing of the canadian people if if the lateral unity between
03:05:08.800 the provinces cannot maintain and there's a void of sovereignty it will either either be america
03:05:14.800 or russia or china one of them will be through geopolitical forces forced to step in now that's
03:05:21.600 a side conversation just wanted to build that into pause now everyone else can continue so there's a
03:05:26.560 third player here that nobody's mentioning and that's the eu which i also do think is a viable
03:05:31.520 option i'm surprised nobody has mentioned that because uh the french government the french
03:05:37.920 foreign minister is offering the danish currently a small garrison of an expeditionary troops in
03:05:43.600 greenland i'm not sure what the intent of that is maybe it's just a show of force maybe it's just to
03:05:49.280 you know show support for their fellow european union member but uh it's not looking like the
03:05:54.880 european vassals of the american empire are too content being bullied in this kind of way
03:05:59.140 and also just to build that point when i was speaking to jason mirinchuk on his show he's a
03:06:03.820 big proponent of this theory of international politics that i don't subscribe to but i find
03:06:09.500 it interesting i'm looking into it that the bank of england and the city of london is really the
03:06:14.820 key holder to all world events and that's so many economic crises pull back to them and that
03:06:20.300 it is the bank of england and the city of london that is opening up the canadian theater in a war
03:06:26.920 with america and then you know there's other add that to the un and another we were talking about
03:06:33.360 this for a secs before the show even we were speaking of the last referendum in canada and
03:06:38.120 we were talking of um i think it was on with benjamin boyce we were talking about equalization
03:06:42.860 payments that are made to quebec from other caravans and saying well if canada falls who 0.57
03:06:48.500 the fuck is going to support quebec and you had correctly said that at the time of the last
03:06:52.360 referendum i believe uh france would have been a player there as well so if i'm remembering 0.99
03:06:57.680 correctly jacques parisot uh managed to get the support or guaranteed support of the french and
03:07:03.440 a number of other francophone countries they were prepared that if the vote was a yes that they were
03:07:09.060 going to immediately recognize quebec as a sovereign nation so there was no way for the
03:07:13.200 federal government to back out and if basically forcing them to allow them to leave um so that
03:07:20.300 is a possibility the eu also has substantial ties in montreal this is something people don't realize
03:07:25.440 There are a number of European subsidiaries or just directly European branch offices to a number of companies located in Montreal.
03:07:32.680 Montreal is the gateway between North America and Europe, not just culturally or historically, but also economically.
03:07:38.760 That connection is there.
03:07:40.980 And it's also through the French Canadians themselves, most of whom are bilingual.
03:07:46.880 And they sort of act as the gateway peoples between Europe and the North American continent.
03:07:50.880 obviously this follows the broader theme of Canada being a mix between the old world and
03:07:55.660 the new not just from the French but that's just how we've always been we've always been this
03:07:59.140 crossroads this weird curious crossroads between the two continents so I see especially like I'm
03:08:06.580 not look I'm not convinced that the Russians are going to be a key player in the near future I
03:08:11.020 think it's obvious now that the Chinese are eclipsing them I think that the I think it's
03:08:15.000 more that the Russians will be vassalized by the Chinese or at least have a arm's length partnership
03:08:19.640 with them where the Chinese are the superior partner. I don't believe that the Russians are
03:08:23.360 going to be projecting force in the Arctic anytime soon. I think the bigger issue is the Chinese.
03:08:27.760 That being said, with that gap being filled, and if you remember a couple of years ago,
03:08:32.660 Germany now has the fourth highest military budget on the planet, but that's dependent,
03:08:37.200 and whether or not they use it against the Russians or American enemies is dependent on
03:08:41.140 how long the Americans can keep them on their chain. Because as many people were pointing out
03:08:45.880 when this was occurring and the european vassals were increasing their military budgets uh will
03:08:52.260 european nations with bigger militaries respect their previous alliances now that they have the
03:08:57.960 ability to project force now that they have the ability to shake off whoever is calling the shots
03:09:02.700 right that's something people are not asking questions for so no and also are they going to
03:09:08.160 be libtarded forever i don't think so i think you're seeing some very significant political
03:09:12.000 shifts in the european continent right now macron's government is failing the fn were extremely
03:09:17.340 popular in the last european parliament elections uh the germans are swinging far to the right the
03:09:22.080 second biggest party is the or third biggest party is the afd if i'm not mistaken they may be
03:09:26.140 second soon so that is a shifting landscape entirely sweden is already succeeding at re-migrating
03:09:32.460 some people they keep increasing the amount of money they're paying to migrants to get them to
03:09:36.800 leave which has proven to be a mixed strategy but there seems to be some success on that front
03:09:41.120 So for how much longer is the EU just simply going to take orders from the UN or from the Washington DC elite? I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. I would sooner see a European and Canadian coalition in Canada be annexed or further integrated with the United States, given its socioeconomic circumstances.
03:09:58.540 The problem with throwing in with the EU is they are not a power. They don't have commodities. They don't have domestic military industry. They don't have the agricultural base. They don't have oil. They don't have any of these other things, which a modern 21st century military requires.
03:10:14.640 The EU's independence, if it were to be independent, it would be a regional power at best. It cannot force project into Canada. And in addition, if Canada were to throw in with a theoretically independent EU of the United States or to throw in with Russia or China, another geopolitical lobby, that immediately becomes a casus belli for the United States to invade.
03:10:38.680 don't you understand this? If Canada throws in with another lobby, then annexation becomes a
03:10:44.720 reality and not a theoretical discussion we're having. So Canada's continued nominal sovereignty,
03:10:55.900 as we're saying here, Canada's continued nominal sovereignty is possible. And I believe that the
03:11:02.040 best way to do that is for Canadians to look and address their own domestic issues at the moment.
03:11:06.280 And Mr. Wycliffe makes a very excellent point in the sense that being absorbed by the United States will not solve the problems of Canada.
03:11:14.960 It's not a magic fix-all, right?
03:11:17.080 You would just have the same problems under a different system.
03:11:22.240 That said, you all need to be aware of your position.
03:11:26.780 You all need to be aware of the realities of the resources and the lack thereof, the infrastructure and the lack thereof that you have.
03:11:34.080 You are very much a second rate power. You do not have force projection capability right now.
03:11:40.680 That may change in the future, but that is the reality. And that is what I'm here to bring.
03:11:45.520 Well, OK, but why can't we just then have some kind of alliance with the United States?
03:11:50.020 Canada and the U.S. have been allies for a very long time.
03:11:53.060 Why can't they just? That's how things are right now.
03:11:54.960 I mean, sure. I mean, I'm fine with Canada being an ally of the United States.
03:12:00.440 I think it would be foolish for us not to be.
03:12:03.000 However, I just don't think that our internal politics
03:12:05.740 and our national identity should become American.
03:12:08.740 I don't think we should become a U.S. state.
03:12:10.720 I mean, I'm totally fine with aligning our geopolitical interests
03:12:14.360 with the United States if we're going to assume
03:12:16.960 that the United States actually were not Zionist-occupied as it is now.
03:12:21.680 If there were a United States which were actually dominated
03:12:24.880 by European Americans, I would be okay with a Canada
03:12:29.360 dominated by european canadians being in an alliance with that if i just don't think i just
03:12:34.640 don't support the idea that we need to be absorbed into that union uh in in in the the way that we
03:12:41.420 would give up our internal governance uh and basically giving give away your entire um your
03:12:46.960 any any uh vestiges of sovereignty you have left it's not claiming that canada is exactly a sovereign
03:12:52.660 country today but i mean i just don't think that the answer is to just even further embed us into
03:12:58.280 this kind of big globalist system. And to address something earlier, the idea that Canadians
03:13:02.880 blame Americans. Well, I don't blame America or certainly not Americans for the state of Canada.
03:13:10.360 Now, I think it's true that many of the worst ideas in Canada today originated in the United
03:13:16.660 States. But I mean, I certainly don't blame European Americans for that because most of the
03:13:21.500 people were Jews who made these ideas. So they didn't have anything to do with it. And it was
03:13:27.320 the Canadian ruling mind you propositional nation which didn't pre-exist the 1950s as a term used
03:13:34.660 continue well okay so I don't blame Americans for this and I don't even really blame America
03:13:40.720 because it was Canadian uh leaders who imbibed these ideas and decided to implement them into
03:13:47.120 our country so the idea I mean I can recognize where the ideas came from I can recognize that
03:13:52.220 they're poisonous I can recognize that they they didn't work in the United States and they aren't
03:13:56.160 going to work in Canada either. They haven't worked in Canada. But I would say the response
03:14:00.980 needs to be that instead of this idea that, well, we should just allow this strong man in because
03:14:07.140 he's going to save us. Well, I think that Canada needs to fix itself. So with the libtards, when
03:14:12.620 Trump says that he wants to take over Canada and turn it into the 51st state, there are responses 0.75
03:14:19.620 is to squeal and to double down on their gayness and to say that oh we're not americans we're 0.98
03:14:26.500 we're gonna burn down the white house yeah i i don't believe in this i remember when we did that 0.99
03:14:32.040 yeah doubling down on yeah like so what the libtars are doing is doubling down their gayness 0.99
03:14:37.580 and whining about how much of a meanie donald drumpf is being and how he's oh it's literally 0.98
03:14:43.620 Hitler. It's like he's doing what Putin did to Ukraine. Oh, he's doing what Hitler did to
03:14:49.780 Czechoslovakia and Poland. Oh, he's so like, no, what we need to do is be a serious country
03:14:55.740 ourselves again. Like there was this photo from a couple of days ago on Twitter. It showed a
03:15:01.880 picture of Trump, Trump Jr., RFK, Musk, and a few other guys on Trump's private jet beside a picture
03:15:10.420 of these scandinavian prime ministers sitting around this like table as if they were like i
03:15:15.740 don't know some parent it was like parent teacher night or something like that and they were they
03:15:20.180 got together to discuss uh their teenage daughter's book project on gone girl or something like that 0.98
03:15:26.660 it looked pathetic it was for leaders of countries uh who who just exuded this utter weakness and 0.75
03:15:32.680 they seemed to and they seemed to uh take pride in the idea that they that they're portraying 0.99
03:15:36.660 themselves as losers. I'm not trying to have a go at Scandinavia here, because it's the exact same
03:15:40.740 with Canada. I mean, someone like Justin Trudeau and his party have made a point to portray
03:15:46.000 themselves as cucked and as weak as possible. And it's been like that for decades. I mean,
03:15:51.960 Canadian identity has been for a long time. You know, the opposition to the United States,
03:15:56.240 that is something which, defining ourselves in opposition to the US is not something which I,
03:16:02.820 which I don't know, that's something that's just happened for centuries, but I don't think it's
03:16:06.140 always been a bad thing the problem is that in within since the 1960s it's been to be more
03:16:11.260 libtarded than the united states so the response to someone like trump it should be that well we
03:16:16.860 should actually be something respectable again because you know a billionaire flying on his
03:16:21.760 private jet president of the most powerful country in the world best friends with the richest man in
03:16:27.260 the world i can understand why they don't respect someone like justin trudeau i can understand why
03:16:32.060 they don't respect these scandinavian leaders who are you know who portray themselves as if
03:16:36.580 they're middle school teachers you know when trump just sees that and he says well i mean i'm gonna
03:16:40.600 go take greenland and what are they going to do about it i'm going to take canada well what are
03:16:44.000 they going to do about it well yeah the point is that we actually need to be a serious country
03:16:47.540 again and one that people actually can respect and it starts with actually taking yourself seriously
03:16:53.240 and getting out of this uh this like globo homo john lennon's imagined fairy tale which we've been
03:17:00.220 living under for the last several decades i mean the leader of the canadian armed forces she looks
03:17:05.840 like some like dried up hippie from 1969 or something like that i mean it's an absolute
03:17:13.420 joke the canadian military is a joke i remember a couple years ago uh when i was about i was 22 23
03:17:19.240 i was actually considering joining the military but then just when i even just saw the pamphlets
03:17:24.780 they had the training course the uh the courses they had and like the kind of people that were
03:17:29.500 involved. I just thought, like, this is a joke. I don't want to be involved in this anti-white,
03:17:33.660 cucked institution. Why would I degrade myself to such a degree? The point is that Canada needs to 0.99
03:17:40.080 be a serious country again. If we don't want someone like Trump to bully us around,
03:17:45.640 we actually have to exude some kind of force. Now, I understand we're not going to be a
03:17:52.480 global power, but there's room for cooperation. We are a mid-level power. I mean, Canada's not
03:17:58.900 nothing it's still it's still a significant country on the world stage but if we're going
03:18:03.220 to be taken seriously again uh and then you know i and we can actually have this uh mutual
03:18:10.700 relationship where the united states and canada can be allies in a world where where a power like
03:18:16.460 china is rising it just it comes it comes down to us actually being a serious country
03:18:21.160 and the capability oh sorry go ahead greg i was going to change the subject a bit so you can go
03:18:26.680 ahead if you want i was just going to say uh you know before you before we go on to something else
03:18:31.240 uh and the thing is and what's very important for canadians to understand is that the capacity to do
03:18:36.740 this is there you know in the in the first and second world war we had one of the largest
03:18:41.100 volunteer armies uh in human history something like one or two million canadians willingly
03:18:46.240 signed up voluntarily we didn't even need a draft for most of the conflict because canadians just
03:18:51.520 willingly did it. Canadians' military history is extremely prominent. We've always been in
03:18:57.000 crazy good in military endeavors at home and abroad, especially, you know, punching way above
03:19:03.180 our weight, not just, punching way above our weight because of our low population size.
03:19:10.500 Canada at the end of World War II did have the fourth largest Navy in the world. You know,
03:19:14.460 we did have nuclear power. We did have the ability to make ICBMs and nuclear weapons.
03:19:19.620 And what we did instead was invest in that technology into civilian nuclear reactors.
03:19:23.720 We invested in the Kandu reactor.
03:19:25.640 We invested in the Alouette satellite.
03:19:27.540 We were the third nation after the U.S. and the USSR to launch the first human-made satellite into space.
03:19:33.600 We built the Averro, right?
03:19:35.520 So a lot of that ingenuity, a lot of that inner strength is still there.
03:19:39.180 The capacity to be a middle power is there.
03:19:42.020 It's latent within Canadians.
03:19:43.320 So all of what we're talking about is certainly possible.
03:19:45.620 yeah and i think that uh like it's an apt analogy that's been said many times before but it's like
03:19:52.580 you know canada is like the younger brother to the states you know paul like i don't think there's
03:19:57.040 any canadians who are like we're tougher we're we're stronger than the united states i don't
03:20:01.820 know if that's that's ever happened but uh the problem right now is that canada has become so
03:20:08.400 uh it is on it has dishonored itself to such a degree that the younger brother is now wearing 1.00
03:20:14.820 a dress with makeup on and you know america's like what the fuck canada like what the fuck 1.00
03:20:20.200 have you done like you're you're you're pathetic like what what is going on here but um i wanted 1.00
03:20:25.220 to uh i need to get going here soon but i wanted to talk about the whole anti-americanism thing 0.97
03:20:30.340 because uh i think that's very very apt for this discussion and also i was writing a sub stack all
03:20:35.820 about this topic and um essentially i think that it's always been somewhat of a defining
03:20:44.300 characteristic for canada obviously because of our history being right next to you guys and the war
03:20:49.240 and all that but um i think in the more modern times recently like since the 60s it has become
03:20:56.420 a rejection of nationalism itself like we we or at least like maybe i'm just speaking from my own
03:21:03.780 experience but whenever i think of being anti-american which is something that i grew up 1.00
03:21:08.980 with i thought oh those stupid fat americans and they and they you know they have all of their 1.00
03:21:14.100 fireworks and they're so pompous and proud of themselves. America, we're the best, blah, blah, 1.00
03:21:19.680 blah. And I'm like, we're not like that. We're not pompous. We're not excitable. We're not
03:21:25.400 patriotic. Like that's what that anti-Americanism that I grew up with was about. It wasn't just
03:21:33.780 about not being loud mouth or not being proud, but it was also like not even being patriotic and
03:21:39.520 rejecting patriotism so by being anti-american like in in my experience growing up in canada
03:21:46.860 it was throwing the baby out with the bath water it was throwing out patriotism with with all of
03:21:53.260 that as well i'm not proud of my country like americans i'm just a humble doormat for the
03:21:59.460 third world like this is what this turned into and uh i think that is why it's you know it's it
03:22:05.740 has killed our nationalism the anti-americanism become became almost like the tip of the spear
03:22:10.780 maybe that's not the best analogy for this but no it is it was like maybe like the poison in the well
03:22:15.880 rather of uh evaporating any sense of national identity it gave way for trudeau to be you know
03:22:23.780 because trump was around at the same time orange man bad we are canada we're welcoming we are you
03:22:30.600 know progressive values and that's it but um i mean we can touch this topic but i i do have to
03:22:38.100 get going though other thing i wanted to say just to kind of bring it back to some practicality and 0.66
03:22:42.160 talk about like the threats of globalism and all this shit uh paul is app paul was absolutely 0.82
03:22:46.840 correct when he's like it's not up to you it's out of your control it could just happen it won't be 0.95
03:22:53.480 up to us we won't have a say like it'll be like a decision that's made from the halls of power
03:22:59.080 in washington dc if this this does play out or even uh fortis action was giving the example of
03:23:06.300 you know the european union or what have you or maybe it's russia or something like this
03:23:10.380 or maybe the calistani uh cell expands enough to take over canada and now we're going to be
03:23:16.800 in a second state of india that'd be horrible but um my point in all this is is like you know
03:23:21.740 once again come bringing it back to the practicality if you're in the if if you're in
03:23:26.740 europe if you're german if you're american if you're a canadian citizen at the end of the day
03:23:31.700 the problem is can we trust the people leading us because if i was an american i would be very
03:23:37.040 concerned about the effect of apac the effect of you know israeli influence on american politicians
03:23:43.640 and the halls of power and that is reflected in canada with especially the conservative party
03:23:50.080 yeah well if you didn't know paul the leader of the conservative party said that
03:23:55.960 um iran is a genocidal state and it would be a gift to humanity if israel bombed iran so it
03:24:05.020 wouldn't it be interesting if we did if they did annex canada and we became one nation and this
03:24:10.220 whole nation of the united states union or the you know united america union with canada now
03:24:15.840 also supports everything israel is doing like you know apac just consolidated its power
03:24:21.260 uh in all of north america and and you know it's it's kind of been said already but
03:24:27.380 it's it this is kind of like really like low iq alex jones stuff but it's like the globalists
03:24:35.640 want to unionize all the countries and make it a one world government and you know i know that
03:24:40.600 american patriots will say no but it'll be different because it'll be led by america
03:24:44.140 and it's like well if it's all still america it comes down to who is near the levers of power who
03:24:49.660 is in control who is making the decisions and uh if you have everything coming from the same
03:24:55.260 central location it's still the same effect as a uh one world government you know and actually
03:25:01.500 kind of back to the original point one of the main concerns as well of just becoming part of america
03:25:06.080 is we have a lot of democrat voters here the most of our population are in these big city centers
03:25:12.680 you know like i don't know who's going to do the gerrymandering of like determining all this stuff
03:25:16.960 but it's like hey yeah trump held helped us become america okay there's a lot of brown
03:25:22.440 liberal people people here and guess what we're gonna vote in mr beast tranny in like 2036 so 0.99
03:25:29.220 now we're gonna get rid of all gun law you know what i mean it's the fucking worst globalist 0.96
03:25:33.540 nightmare you could imagine i think you all sort of flatter yourselves by assuming you would 0.94
03:25:37.300 immediately have voting rights upon annexation no i agree with you mind you that like the majority
03:25:43.120 of u.s three fifths paul the majority of u.s states were territories for many years prior to
03:25:49.220 prior to actually gaining voting rights in congress you know they were they were they
03:25:52.720 were territories um i'm no friend of apac like i don't i feel like that's so trite that i don't
03:25:58.320 need to like like state that like obviously like i'm not here i'm not trying to point at the moat
03:26:04.580 in my brother's eye here i'm just you know like that's what i'm here for anyway continue mr
03:26:09.820 Wycliffe. No, Greg, I mean, you were right. It's funny hearing this from the populace because they
03:26:15.900 think that they're going to get favorable terms. And the example I like to give is, you know,
03:26:20.020 you take a, you take a province and I'm not, I'm not throwing shade on any of our Western
03:26:23.940 Canadians here. You know, I love you guys. I have much respect for Alberta. Um, but a landlocked
03:26:30.020 province that is barely 5 million people that is already underrepresented in the Confederation
03:26:35.020 jumping into a country of 330 million people and becoming a safe oil state much like montana or
03:26:42.320 idaho is not going to be really well represented in that situation either and the idea that any
03:26:47.400 of the provinces would be organized into states and given full states rights and not a frozen
03:26:51.780 shithole like port like basically frozen puerto rico is just complete nonsense like there's
03:26:56.420 absolutely no not to mention as greg touched on uh you know the jostling around this would cause 0.99
03:27:02.720 in the electoral college is insane like they're they're not going to want to upset that balance
03:27:06.600 of power by giving canadians voting rights like it's just it's absurd just to think that will be
03:27:11.780 anything more than a resource territory uh you know any more than a resource extraction economy
03:27:17.220 than we currently are right i just got one last point before uh ducking out here to kind of jump
03:27:22.540 on that which is you know normies are so frustrating like people who don't follow
03:27:27.300 follow politics because they have such a naive worldview, right? And what I'm getting at here
03:27:33.920 is that at the end of the day, you, you constantly have in politics, you can't constantly have this
03:27:39.820 struggle for power, for resources and different people, different factions, different countries,
03:27:46.260 governments are going to be warring over that. Right. And so this, you know, giving the example
03:27:52.580 of Alberta if they get if only they get annexed you know is Alberta going to be happy is Canada
03:27:58.060 going to be happy at the end of the day folks we have bullies in suits who represent either
03:28:04.040 corporate interests or foreign special interests or what have you and they are the ones who are
03:28:09.180 going to be at the negotiating table they're going to be the ones who are pushing for what they want
03:28:13.360 is it going to be for the American people or is it going to be for you know the the oil tycoons
03:28:19.720 And I guess at the end of the day, like I try to bring it back to this when we have these conversations, because I feel like we can get so like high, you know, high minded.
03:28:27.100 And it's like, well, let's bring it back down to reality here.
03:28:29.440 Like, like, how are the actual people going to get what, you know, represented properly?
03:28:35.160 Because I think like, you know, in any scenario, if it's the EU, if it's America, we're still facing the same problems.
03:28:43.380 And that's that's kind of why I try to bring it back to that.
03:28:46.320 But thanks a lot for having me on.
03:28:48.000 I'm just going to give a quick shout out.
03:28:49.460 Make sure people check out say free speech.ca and follow him on X right here to find out
03:28:55.360 more great account to follow.
03:28:57.140 One of my favorite people, Greg, it was a fantastic having you on.
03:29:00.280 Thank you for taking the time.
03:29:01.260 Thank you so much.
03:29:02.180 And the trailer for the documentary I'm making at the hate network is going to be coming
03:29:06.800 out very soon.
03:29:07.660 So stay tuned.
03:29:08.980 All right.
03:29:09.520 Now we can keep going, everyone.
03:29:11.540 I did have a question.
03:29:12.820 So, and I know we're not going to go too, too much longer.
03:29:15.560 I don't think, I know everyone's very busy, but, uh,
03:29:18.000 Just to bring this back to the realm of unwarranted speculation, one argument in favor of annexation,
03:29:26.760 and this was put forward by Peter Zaihan, amongst others, was pointing out that each
03:29:32.640 province has a stronger trade relationship south of the border than horizontally, that
03:29:38.160 for a commonwealth, it seems to have more of a good relationship with America.
03:29:43.780 could and you know tariffs aside could that financial relationship be exploited and i'd
03:29:49.220 mentioned at the top one scenario could be don't go after canada don't go through the federal
03:29:54.640 government go through the provincial governments and i know that i've spoken to many listeners on
03:30:00.200 the show on the um practicality not of one wide-reaching canadian unified nationalism but
03:30:08.520 sort of dealing more with what we're talking about here which is identifying the permanence
03:30:12.840 of these Anglo and French nationalisms
03:30:16.400 and perhaps trying to harness
03:30:18.020 the dialectical nature of that.
03:30:22.140 It would be a different sort of nationalism
03:30:23.760 than what was expressed by Adrian Hastings
03:30:27.640 in the construction of nationhood,
03:30:29.700 which the nation is just the highest form of complexity
03:30:32.620 that has evolved from the community
03:30:35.340 up through the tribe, up through the city-state,
03:30:37.920 up until the nation.
03:30:39.960 But there is an internal coherence
03:30:42.360 and perhaps an internal coherence that Canada lacks, to Paul's point.
03:30:46.600 However, if we were encouraging something like even provincial nationalism,
03:30:52.080 which is what a lot of people feel, like the Albertans have sort of a nationalism form,
03:30:57.580 as do the Québécois, Ontario not so much, but maybe,
03:31:00.840 could that also be exploited to, again, discombobulate and disrupt
03:31:05.140 the sort of not propositional nature of Canada, but the federalized nature of Canada?
03:31:11.240 you see what i'm saying like could these smaller identity-based nationalisms be exploited or do we
03:31:17.880 need to try and create this broad canadian nationalism which is ironically what that
03:31:24.100 flag that everybody hates was trying to accomplish
03:31:27.680 i know that was like maybe that didn't sound like a question i was putting everyone else
03:31:36.400 Do you think that sort of the lack of unity between the provinces could be exploited by America?
03:31:43.700 Absolutely. As many Western separatists. No, I won't start with that.
03:31:53.760 Many advocates of Western Canada. Despite the fact that they share a lot of similarity with the East, a lot more than they think they do.
03:32:01.700 if you look at the history of anthony hende he was the first european explorer along the
03:32:06.800 saskatchewan river he was an employee of the hudson bay company and he managed to explore
03:32:13.300 that territory at a record that nobody else beat at the time for how fast he managed to do it
03:32:18.140 he being an employee of the hudson bay company founded by two french guys in service of king
03:32:24.160 henry of england uh alberta has a much deeper history than it likes to pretend it's not all
03:32:29.900 cattle ranching and cowboys it's actually mounties the first cowboys out west were mounties they were
03:32:34.720 the king's law men they were not cowboys and rebels although a not insignificant amount of
03:32:41.560 midwestern americans migrated into the prairies during the klondike gold rush as well as the
03:32:48.200 scramble to settle the prairies because free land was being given out was being handed out
03:32:55.040 That being said, over the last 100 years in particular, they've forgotten much of their
03:32:59.760 identity.
03:33:00.360 Perhaps you might even say that they're the most rootless of the provinces.
03:33:04.600 And in terms of whether or not the United States can impact the culture or even exploit
03:33:08.420 that difference, I would say that they already are and they already have.
03:33:11.120 If you remember, there was a party, it didn't go anywhere, and I'm not quite sure who was
03:33:15.760 supporting it, but there was a party that seemed to be astroturfed called Alberta for
03:33:19.360 USA.
03:33:19.820 And this party managed to show up very conspicuously after the Albertans were thinking of trying to sell their oil on the international market rather than through the United States, almost as if the Americans didn't want any competition, which wouldn't surprise me at all.
03:33:33.720 That's just power politics.
03:33:35.760 So I would say they already have.
03:33:37.700 There are also weird ties with Ernest Manning and being a televangelist and, if I'm recalling correctly, the CIA, something to do with U.S. intelligence and their own strains of Christianity are curiously American in their denominations compared to what Eastern Canada was historically, which was primarily Anglican and Catholic.
03:33:59.480 But this was all 100 years ago.
03:34:01.080 So I would say that they already have.
03:34:04.180 You know, they've already they've already interfered historically.
03:34:07.480 They have interfered. Nobody knows why and the exact reasons why the Avro Aero was canceled. Some say the Avro Aero project was infiltrated by the Soviets. There's some evidence for that. Some say the Americans threatened the Canadian government. You know what I mean?
03:34:21.740 And oddly enough, there's reason to believe this in some respects, because we lost 7000 aerospace engineers who went on to work for General Motors, General Electric and the U.S. Air Force.
03:34:34.600 You know, so who knows? There's something to that. Could they exploit the various nationalisms in this country?
03:34:39.640 Yes. Or the various regionalisms in the country to their benefit? Absolutely.
03:34:43.860 They already have. Like there's there's no doubt about that.
03:34:46.560 it's funny you had mentioned the uh i just got the national post pulled up here and i remember
03:34:51.520 now that we've covered this on blood satellite the alberta 51 project and we looked into it
03:34:57.040 and i think it was just one guy one guy in his like trailer you know and i only think he lived
03:35:02.800 in alberta that was the fucking thing i think he was born in alberta also like jason jason myron
03:35:07.740 chuck who doesn't live in canada advocating for our annexation yeah he moved to like ohio or 0.96
03:35:12.660 something like that and then it was just a weird convoluted thing but uh there are examples of this
03:35:18.400 good point but how uh much how seriously can they be taken um if anyone else has any thoughts on
03:35:24.800 that whether or not and this is just my scheme for how this could play out because i do take this
03:35:30.580 topic somewhat seriously because i do think there's historical precedent to um yeah i'm sorry
03:35:35.480 continue yeah so um if if it's possible that a complete annexation won't occur of canada um
03:35:41.880 Um, it's, it's, it's, it's more likely, you know, if, if any annexation were to occur,
03:35:48.080 the United States would more than likely just absorb, uh, the Western provinces, British
03:35:52.140 Columbia, uh, uh, Alberta.
03:35:55.580 I don't, I don't know if we would grab Saskatchewan, but, um, and I think that would be twofold.
03:35:59.900 Uh, number one, to create a land connection with Alaska and number two, it would be to
03:36:04.900 grab the Albertan crude because, um, I don't know if anyone here is familiar with the petroleum
03:36:09.860 industry um i i'm somewhat familiar with the petroleum industry the united states pulls a
03:36:15.500 lot of oil out of the ground out of west texas particularly um that's our large oil producing
03:36:21.240 area right now we pull it out in other places as well the thing about albertan crude all right so
03:36:26.460 there's different types of crude oil right there's there's lighter grades and there's heavier grades
03:36:30.260 lighter grades is made for for more consumer grade gasoline for automobiles and the heavier grades is
03:36:35.800 for commercial stuff. We're talking boat fuel, we're talking airline fuel, things like that.
03:36:42.500 So heavier grades of crude are a lot more important to the functioning of a 21st century economy
03:36:47.940 than lighter grades. And so Canada and Alberta has most of its crude up there is that heavier
03:36:55.460 grade, which the United States does not currently have access to a large number of. This is what
03:37:00.280 the Keystone Pipeline was meant to do, was meant to have a large amount of access for that Albertan
03:37:06.520 crude. And that is, you know, push comes to shove. That is the United States' primary national
03:37:10.640 security concern with Canada, is access to those heavier grades of crude oil. And that's why, as
03:37:15.420 Mr. Fortisacks pointed out, there is so much American intelligence involvement and power
03:37:20.640 political involvement within particularly Western Canada, not only because there's that ethnic
03:37:26.500 history that can be exploited by American intelligence agencies. There's also just
03:37:32.040 that it's sort of a perfect storm to oppose it to the rest of Canada. So yeah, I mean, that's
03:37:39.960 more likely than not. And it may not even be it may not even be an outright annexation. We may
03:37:45.640 just recognize Alberta and British Columbia or wherever else as a as an independent nation from
03:37:52.100 canada and you know you split it up um that's that's that's sort of my opinion on the whole
03:37:57.740 thing so i was going to say that bc i'll just quickly interject here the thing about bc and
03:38:05.180 the reason why i think that bc might also be a target is because i think that the u.s intelligence
03:38:09.980 agencies are not going to allow a chinese stronghold on the north american continent
03:38:13.720 which vancouver very much is as dimes has uh mentioned before there are two very important
03:38:20.200 books on this subject. One of them is Willful Blindness, and the other one is Claws of the
03:38:26.640 Panda. And they're both about the last 40 years of Chinese infiltration into Metro Vancouver,
03:38:32.360 the business community, their real estate and property ownership, assets, all of this capital
03:38:40.960 that they've been building up in this area. The fact that they are a substantial demographic in
03:38:45.660 metro Vancouver and the fact that they have set up what are functionally police stations
03:38:50.620 most across Canada but mostly in Vancouver which intimidate or threaten
03:38:55.620 Chinese citizens and during the Hong Kong protests they were also threatening Hong Kongers they were
03:39:02.280 trying to get them to go back to mainland China to face justice for protesting against the CCP
03:39:07.240 government so as much as I would prefer that if the western if the western provinces were going
03:39:13.600 to be taken by the united states as much as i would prefer if bc would huck it on its own
03:39:17.480 as its own thing because bc is a weird entity bc is an oddball bc has eastern blood and eastern
03:39:24.400 culture but it's located very far on the west coast and so this has created its own kind of
03:39:30.020 unique thing it's almost like a weird north american singapore in many ways they've got
03:39:34.800 an interesting historic relationship with the chinese and the indians there although they've
03:39:39.740 always been very very small numbers so yeah and just that point you get really you get a lot of
03:39:46.640 pushback in this space especially in this thing of ours when you mention anything negative about
03:39:51.920 china because people say oh you're just falling into a neocon talking point but i'm like okay
03:39:57.620 i guess here in america you would but there there are concerns just again remove ideology from it
03:40:05.440 just look at this from pure geopolitics if they are a great power as russia is a great power maybe
03:40:12.740 not on the same level as america but there is a geopolitical game being played and it is relevant
03:40:18.900 and like i said the vast the lion's share of fentanyl flowing into north america is through 0.98
03:40:25.100 the west coast and it is from china in fucking factories that are working hand in glove with the 0.98
03:40:31.520 CCP and then the triad. So like, that's just a thing that's happened. Now, important for any 0.98
03:40:37.940 American listeners, that's different from the Sackler family controlling opioids in the
03:40:43.740 pharmaceutical industry in the United States. Sorry, Endeavor, what were you about to say?
03:40:47.180 That's something I want to address because there's this meme that if you say anything bad about
03:40:53.160 China, you must be a Zionist because you're blaming China and not blaming the Jews. It's just
03:40:58.620 such a stupid uh trs meme which came about because like they because they they chalk out all the 1.00
03:41:05.680 problems in the world up to the jews now i don't deny that that they are a problem but the people 1.00
03:41:10.700 have to understand that there are other threats in the world and that if china is this massive
03:41:14.440 country and it's gonna it's gonna exert itself and we're seeing that in canada it doesn't make
03:41:19.520 you a zionist or a sivnat or a neocon or whatever to point out that china is an enemy and they're
03:41:26.460 It's a horrible country. I mean, I just view China as like as its own version of dystopia.
03:41:33.200 So, you know, the West is Camp of the Saints. China's 1984.
03:41:37.260 I don't want Camp of the Saints, but I also don't want 1984 either.
03:41:40.760 So we have to get over this idea that and I know this isn't exactly what the stream is about, but we have to get over this idea that the entire problem is it's just the Jews.
03:41:51.460 You have to view the Jews in the Zionist lobby as one entity vying for power against many other entities.
03:42:00.920 It's one of the strongest ones.
03:42:02.240 It's certainly the strongest one in the United States.
03:42:04.320 But China is another entity, and it's something that people have to start taking seriously because they are exerting themselves in Canada.
03:42:12.360 In terms of Alberta, BC and Alberta, I don't know.
03:42:17.620 I mean, these provinces, they just seem to be in a real bad way.
03:42:21.040 like bc seems to be the wackiest in terms of uh libtardism like i know that all that's not saying
03:42:29.240 it is it is it 110 like the the ubc and the university of victoria uh are proud to produce
03:42:36.860 some of the most radical student activists in all of north america like if i'm not mistaken victoria
03:42:41.900 bc has the highest number of self-identifying lgbt plus people in the entire north american
03:42:49.120 continent so like and it's just such a it's so sad because b because victoria bc is actually such a
03:42:55.360 beautiful such a beautiful uh city at one point and it actually was basically it looked like a
03:43:00.280 city from the british isles that's in in the new world uh it's a shame to see that it's become this
03:43:05.660 like a bastion of gayness and anti-whiteism uh yeah bc seems to be like it just seems to be the 0.67
03:43:12.400 wackiest now that that's saying something when you consider ontario i'm not saying ontario is 0.97
03:43:17.140 by any by any stretch but uh it does seem to be the worst in that regard alberta you know i feel
03:43:23.580 like alberta kind of gets the worst of both worlds so you get the uh you get the the kind of 90 iq
03:43:32.200 americanisms of like oh my liberty my guns my my freedom and stuff like this and then like because
03:43:39.940 Because I know that Albertans are the most likely to support Canada being annexed by the United States.
03:43:48.120 And then they have the worst of the Zionist lobby.
03:43:50.380 So that it seems to be the strongest out there.
03:43:52.600 Yeah, it's the Zionist stronghold in Canada.
03:43:57.360 Incredible.
03:43:58.120 Like, you know, out in the prairies, you usually think of the Jews, you usually think of big metropolitan areas.
03:44:05.180 But maybe maybe kind of just like this brand of conservatism is really just it really just piggybacks off this brand of conservatism.
03:44:12.780 I just want to say something quick.
03:44:13.880 I just want to finish, though.
03:44:15.260 So you can do. 1.00
03:44:16.420 Yeah, but Alberta doesn't seem to even have the positives of the positives of the controlled opposition. 0.75
03:44:21.820 Right. They seem to be just as woke as all the other provinces.
03:44:24.620 So you have the the premier of Alberta, like saying that she wants to double the population of Alberta in a few years.
03:44:31.820 And you have her like saying that Sikhs built the province and you have her taking these photo ops with surrounded by these bio Leninist, you know, these anti-racism, H.R. LGBT freaks.
03:44:46.720 And it's just like Alberta just seems to have it seems to have the worst of the worst of both worlds, the worst of the right and the worst of the left combined into one.
03:44:56.600 I'm not saying this to have a go at any particular province.
03:44:59.200 it's it's actually true and it's interesting you point that out because i was recently reading a
03:45:04.880 political uh analyst paper of the politics of alberta so what's going on are three political
03:45:11.600 power blocks you have the cultural legacy of anglo-canadians you have the cultural legacy
03:45:17.760 of anglo-americans and you have the cultural legacy of white ethnics and those historically
03:45:23.840 would have been uh germans and ukrainians and what's really fascinating is that edmonton and
03:45:28.960 calgary were set up by anglo-canadians they're the centers of power historically they were the seats
03:45:34.480 of the social credit party which is more in line with canadian tradition it's more statist it's
03:45:39.120 more authoritarian um but you have the periphery which was settled by anglo-americans and they're
03:45:44.400 the ones who are all about my guns and liberty and my jesus and uh and all of this stuff now
03:45:50.640 the zionist connection in alberta is interesting and i believe it has to do with the evangelicalism
03:45:55.000 american style evangelicalism is particularly prevalent in the western provinces and that's
03:45:59.420 where that tie comes from now i know we got to get going soon i want to just throw this
03:46:05.400 grenade out there actually have two points um i didn't want to confront this with greg because
03:46:10.680 i know he tries to keep a bit of a more reasonable public facing profile but one thing i had been
03:46:16.400 thinking of during this whole discussion was is this restricted to whites and europeans meaning
03:46:23.820 all this talk of annexation even the concern about annexation do the chinese care about that
03:46:29.420 do the indians care about that do the mexicans care about that or is this really just something
03:46:34.060 that's restricted to white north americans what do you think i can tell you right now that the
03:46:39.160 indians are hugely in favor of it uh every indian that i've talked to that i've worked with in
03:46:44.360 canada is 110 for it because many of them view canada as a stepping stone to citizenship in
03:46:50.660 the united states i worked with a chick in particular who wanted to go to medical school
03:46:55.440 in canada so that uh actually constant meme i'm not an ontarian it's even worse i'm a quebecer
03:47:03.740 so i spoke to this this indian girl uh and her plan was to get a medical degree and then attempt
03:47:11.580 to emigrate to the U.S. on an H-1B or whatever fast track that they get for highly skilled 0.98
03:47:18.040 immigrants. So for a lot of them, it's just a secondary passport with their ultimate goal
03:47:22.920 of going to the States. So they would be 100% in favor of it. Most of the Indians I talk
03:47:27.520 to are pro-American annexation.
03:47:31.840 Sorry, go ahead.
03:47:32.700 No, no, no, you guys are the stars here.
03:47:36.780 Did you want to say something, Paul?
03:47:38.780 No.
03:47:39.080 oh okay yeah i mean i don't know i just think that i haven't really spoken to very i haven't
03:47:44.580 really spoken to very many to see what they have to say about it but i find that most uh at least
03:47:49.920 among the the jeets they they just view whatever country they're in they just view it as a as an
03:47:54.860 opportunity to scam a bunch of money and then send it back to india so i don't think they i don't
03:48:00.140 think they would uh be bothered one way or another but they probably support it because
03:48:03.480 well it just expands the market where they can uh where they can run their scams so i mean i
03:48:09.180 i'm sure they'd probably be totally in favor of it now i have a proposal china but now here's
03:48:15.540 something we can do that can create real unity between canada and america we do a kayfabe we
03:48:24.240 pretend that america is forcibly invading canada militarily and everyone gets their guns everyone
03:48:31.440 does we're going to do americans love the civil war reenactments let's do an actual war reenactment
03:48:37.720 to the point where we're going to talk about doing a draft that will chase all of the indians and
03:48:43.700 probably most of the chinese it'll just get all because how many people would actually fight for
03:48:48.540 canada and die for canada you'll probably be left with just the people who would and maybe that's
03:48:54.480 how we maybe annexation is is the solution to our problems you'd be left but then don't do it
03:49:00.120 You'd be left with far right infantry and libtard support staff. That's exactly how it would go down.
03:49:06.040 And look, that's that's another thing to consider here. Right. You know, I don't expect I'm very I'm very happy that Donald Trump has been elected.
03:49:16.840 And I'm very glad that there is at least some reversing of the very bad policies that are affecting this country.
03:49:26.080 And there's even talk that he's kind of reversed on the H1B question as well.
03:49:31.900 um now i one of i i i where was i going with this um where i was going with this is um
03:49:44.840 where was i going with it was going to be something with the the large amount of of
03:49:51.800 indians and east asians that have entered into canada that the government has shown no
03:49:56.040 no desire to deport um and that's really that's threat number one if those if those people do
03:50:02.040 not leave you will not have a Canada much longer um or at least yes good no I was just going to
03:50:09.800 say yes and no there's actually and to your credit I was going to say that regardless of
03:50:14.100 my criticisms that I've laid out in this article of the current situation the socioeconomics and
03:50:18.760 demographics of the United States I still think it is objectively a good thing that Donald Trump
03:50:23.700 as president i'm seeing a lot of positive signs especially as you said he's attempting to purge 0.99
03:50:28.900 their uh your bureaucracy of all of these shit libs uh you can see that on the federal government 0.99
03:50:35.540 workers subreddit they're all pissing and moaning and seething about uh having to go back to work 0.99
03:50:41.380 in person i remember what i was gonna say but go ahead yeah so they're go ahead okay so they're
03:50:51.140 definitely pissing and moaning i obviously i view it as an objective good uh so i you know i just
03:50:56.560 wanted to clear the air on that subject i don't think that uh you know i'm not taking the black
03:51:01.640 pilled devin stack and uh academic agent take which is uh trump is you know the regime is a
03:51:08.260 monolith trump is in with them nothing's going to change it's just going to go back to boiling the
03:51:12.440 frog slowly i don't believe that yeah i mean and so i remember what i was going to say you know if
03:51:17.140 If I were a Canadian and not an American and I were looking at the situation I was looking at, a possible strategy for the Canadians is, you know, your government is, you know, I agree with you that the Canadians are more authoritarian people than Americans, but your government reflects that.
03:51:36.240 And unlike the Americans who have no problem burning down their government, the Canadians, though they do have autonomy, have shown reluctance to do that in the past.
03:51:45.280 Were I a Canadian nationalist, and my goal is long-term Canadian strength and sovereignty, it is possible that you could do what Yaki states, which is a higher being accepts temporary slavery for a time with a purpose.
03:52:01.400 um if i were canada um a strategy i would very much consider is allowing the united states to
03:52:08.840 annex us uh with a negotiated settlement keeping as much as possible taking as much advantage of
03:52:14.880 american economic development as possible waiting you know mr fortisaks you claim the united states
03:52:21.820 is a declining empire i believe that you are not correct there i believe your clock is wrong and i
03:52:29.140 believe you you think that we're at a different state of the of the empire than we actually are
03:52:34.580 however you are correct or i mean this isn't too early as the same as being wrong but at the same
03:52:39.660 time all empires fall and the united states will eventually one day and look people people
03:52:46.160 misunderstand what i think and what i'm saying look i'm not here i don't believe the united
03:52:51.220 states is invincible the united states will collapse one day it will cease to be whatever
03:52:55.580 it is one day. All right. But if you're betting that Canada can outlast whatever has been created
03:53:01.260 in the South, one of one possible strategy I would recommend, and I would consider where I
03:53:06.580 Canadian nationalist is accepting annexation with a negotiated settlement, keeping as much Canadian
03:53:12.080 autonomy as possible. And then just exploiting the United States for economic development,
03:53:17.320 rebuilding a Canadian territorial military, volunteering to take up more national security
03:53:22.480 tasks, etc., etc., waiting for the United States to decline to such a point, and then doing what
03:53:27.020 the United States did with Great Britain, you know, declaring independence at a certain point.
03:53:30.840 That's definitely something that could be done, all right? The point is, and I think the one
03:53:36.140 thing that everyone agrees on, you know, for me, and my ideal solution to this problem,
03:53:43.060 I came on to argue the pro-American side because, you know, frankly, someone has to be the bad guy.
03:53:49.180 um my me personally i want canada to be a serious nation as much as you all do
03:53:55.680 all right if canada became a serious nation do you know how many untold billions of trillions
03:54:01.660 of dollars it would save my country in in annexing i don't want to annex canada i don't
03:54:07.640 want the woes that come with territorial expansion i don't want to have to deal with
03:54:11.940 an angry Quebecois with their own language in that province. I don't want to deal with any of
03:54:20.540 this. I don't want the United States to deal with any of this. All right. It's a waste of time. It's
03:54:25.580 a waste of money. And if Canada could just do what it's done in the past, which is take itself
03:54:31.260 seriously and have, you know, but unfortunately it's going to have to be the Canadian people who
03:54:36.720 do it. You know, you, you, you all need to find a way to remove your rulers and to, and to fix
03:54:43.340 your government. And that's, that's what it comes down to. If you all can manage to do that, I will
03:54:48.680 be the first one to say, no, Canada can carry its own weight. We, the United States doesn't need to
03:54:52.640 get involved. But until that point, this question will not go away. Well, yeah, I guess what I'll
03:54:59.640 say is that I also do agree that it's a good thing that Donald Trump won. I totally disagree
03:55:05.140 with this idea that it's just going to boil the frog slower. No, I mean, he's legitimately done
03:55:09.760 some good things, like getting rid of libtards, as many libtards as you can from the bureaucracy,
03:55:15.900 it just needs to be done. But I guess in terms of Canada, I just think that we can do this
03:55:23.520 ourselves. I just don't think we need to be annexed by the United States in order for us to do it.
03:55:29.220 And I'm actually quite confident that Canadians could actually do something similar. So again,
03:55:34.660 Trump is not going to fix the problem in the U.S. on a fundamental level, but he is going to stop
03:55:41.420 the bleed. He looks like he has a possibility of stopping the bleeding. And I think that we
03:55:49.000 could do this in Canada as well. I'm certainly not a fan of Polly Eve or the Conservative Party
03:55:55.240 or anything like that. But even within the Liberal Party, they seem to be eating crow a bit. And even
03:56:01.740 they're backtracking on some of the more insane elements of their uh of their politics over the
03:56:07.140 past couple of years well i mean they fired look they fired ramaskami from doge and then all of a
03:56:13.020 sudden elon's talking about the necessity of germany of protecting german culture so i was
03:56:17.460 quite impressed with that 180 degree turn but um so just a remark on the demographic thing with the
03:56:25.160 south asians paul i wanted to mention so as of right now it seems that around 40 to 45 percent
03:56:31.160 of Canadians support the mass deportation of the last 6.2 million people who entered the country
03:56:36.440 over the last four years. And that, you know, I'm not an accelerationist guy. I'm not somebody who
03:56:41.760 believes that things necessarily getting worse red pills people or wakes them up. If you look
03:56:47.340 at South Africa, there are still bleeding heart libtards who believe in, you know, Nelson Mandela's
03:56:54.280 Rainbow Nation as they're getting slaughtered in the farmlands. That being said, the demographic
03:57:00.460 change happened so quickly that I've had pink haired overweight colleagues tell me that they
03:57:07.000 all have to go back all of them the opinion here is changing very rapidly and what we've seen is
03:57:12.700 the Liberal Party has outmaneuvered the Conservatives on the mass immigration subject
03:57:16.700 the Liberal Party some of their members are either calling for a moratorium their current
03:57:21.640 candidates for the race for them to be party leader in March you know are either calling for
03:57:27.440 total moratorium or claiming that all illegal immigrants have to be deported, which is absolutely
03:57:33.220 insane. Now, obviously, they're doing this to save their own hide. They're doing this because
03:57:38.520 they know that if Canada gets annexed, they go from being a big fish in a small pond to a small
03:57:43.400 fish in a very, very big pond, which they will be swallowed by with everyone else in it. So there
03:57:50.580 is, you know, I'm not I'm not on the Blackpill train when it comes to Canada. I don't believe
03:57:54.700 that everything is over. I think there's a lot of room for improvement and maneuvering, especially
03:57:59.420 with all the cultural forces that are currently coalescing in this country. The fact that you're
03:58:04.040 even on a panel right now with three Canadian content creators with not unsubstantial followings
03:58:11.240 is an interesting thing that wouldn't have occurred 10 or 15 years ago, or even maybe
03:58:16.400 five years ago, perhaps. So I'm optimistic about the future in some respects in regards to the
03:58:22.800 indians there seems to be massive opinions changing around that subject yeah and i you know
03:58:30.260 amongst the populace of canada i completely believe that the the issue the issue is is that
03:58:36.560 you know and this is and so here's the thing mr fortisax all right i i see republicanism and you
03:58:45.020 know authoritarianism within a people's bent as as lending itself to different ecologies all right
03:58:50.880 The United States has a large, you know, the United States has downsides of its system.
03:58:55.700 The United States has upsides of its system.
03:58:57.480 You know, this as does an authoritarian ecology within Canada.
03:59:01.220 The problem with an authoritarian ecology is that the government is the government of
03:59:06.000 an authoritarian system is great when it when it's working for you and it's terrible when
03:59:10.080 it's working against you.
03:59:11.300 And right now it is working against you and it is very difficult because there are very
03:59:15.140 few commonly accepted, legally accepted, politically accepted routes for people who
03:59:21.760 are not within that system to change it from the outside. Within the United States,
03:59:26.540 yes, it's more prone to subversion. Yes, more interest groups, but it's also,
03:59:30.520 it's also, you know, the trade-off for that is it's easier, you know, for people to influence
03:59:36.220 the course of the nation through collective and collaborative action. And so what I would
03:59:43.020 recommend the Canadian people do, were I a Canadian nationalist, is find a way to perform
03:59:50.860 civic participation in something that's in the United States. The United States has a very
03:59:56.480 healthy and long tradition of civic participation. If you read de Tocqueville's Democracy in America,
04:00:01.360 he outlines it. But the Canadians, I'm sure you have some equivalent or some way of
04:00:07.320 participating in government, I would recommend heritage Canadians, be they Anglophone or
04:00:13.600 Quebecois, although the Quebecois don't seem to have as much of an issue doing this. That's why
04:00:18.180 their influence is so outsized. But the Anglo-Canadians more so, I would recommend that
04:00:23.440 they find ways to start getting involved. I don't, you know, whether it be local or provincial or,
04:00:28.040 you know, even Canadian federal government, find ways to do it. Because if the sentiment shifts,
04:00:33.220 That means nothing. The sentiment shift means it's a peasant revolt. If you don't go in and you change the elites, like what, you know, what the old glory club is doing in the United States, the old glory club, which I've, you know, helped to found, you know, we've got chapters all across the United States.
04:00:46.600 Now, we're looking to create elites. We're looking to create people in tune with the American heritage, in tune with the historic American people and what comes with that, that we can send into places of power. And I know, you know, Red Ensign, I think is what it was called, is what, you know, there was something that was started up there that was attempted to do something similar. That's what I would recommend. If you don't change your government, you won't change your situation.
04:01:12.960 So I'm not advocating for a peasant revolt. Let's just clearly err on that very quickly. The fundamental problem. So let's go back to where you said that the US has more civic participation, as well as the difference between the authoritarian system and the democratic system. You are correct in saying that authoritarian systems work when the king is benevolent. And you're definitely right. You even see this in Europe. You see this in the UK. The UK and France are unitary states.
04:01:38.360 The executive has an insane amount of power. I believe the one executive with the most amount
04:01:44.240 of power within his country in the liberal democratic world is the president of France.
04:01:48.060 They're effectively a presidential dictator, to be honest with you. So the downside to the
04:01:54.040 American system is that, yes, you have been protected from all of these built in mechanics
04:02:01.180 that stop subversion in some respects. It also stops MAGA and anyone like minded from permanently
04:02:06.500 dealing with leftists because those protections for all maga people such as you could say the
04:02:11.740 first amendment the freedom of speech and freedom from persecution from the government uh you know
04:02:16.980 yeah that protects you it also protects leftists who can and will continue to propagate their
04:02:21.760 ideology throughout your entire society so that's one thing canada's edge actually the edge of the
04:02:26.940 europeans as well is that if we manage to get our guys in it's over we can reverse all of this in a
04:02:31.880 single generation and it would be piss easy by comparison now the other thing and dimes and i
04:02:36.900 have touched on this before is that many of the canadian content creators are realizing that there
04:02:41.240 are no in order to have any kind of meaningful change especially changing elites influencing
04:02:46.040 elites or even becoming elites you have to have first principles you need to have an intellectual
04:02:50.960 base you need to have an intellectual foundation canada in recent years for a very long time
04:02:56.020 especially in the nationalist sphere has had not had this even the freedom convoy was very much a
04:03:01.280 peasant revolt it was a very successful peasant revolt in if we're going to use those terms it
04:03:06.000 was mostly working class guys guys who are more inclined to the way that we think guys who feel
04:03:11.360 and often act the way we do but necessarily you know maybe they can't put that into words
04:03:16.440 um and it it you know did it have as many positive conclusions as everybody would have liked
04:03:23.480 perhaps not did it forcibly lift the covid19 federal lockdowns absolutely it succeeded within
04:03:30.920 a few short weeks and a couple of months after almost all of the mandates and lockdowns on federal
04:03:35.180 and provincial levels were lifted so if there is such a thing as a successful common revolt in that
04:03:41.360 way i would say that the freedom convoy is that as far as influencing elites and as far as academic
04:03:47.640 agency lead theory we're currently working on that all right gentlemen i know we need to get going
04:03:55.100 soon i'm doing the thing where i keep trying to end the stream but we keep latching on like a dog
04:04:00.900 with his soup bone um is there any closing thoughts people wanted to get to before i do
04:04:05.420 the plugs for everybody i guess one thing for me is that i'm actually more annoyed at uh canadian
04:04:12.780 quote-unquote conservatives who are in favor of us being annexed by the united states than donald
04:04:18.440 trump himself i mean again the u.s is a big powerful country i mean donald trump he's a
04:04:23.120 he might be an egomaniac but i mean he's a he's a successful businessman and he throws his weight
04:04:28.880 around uh i mean and that's to be expected but like when when it's canadian when it's actual
04:04:34.160 canadians who call themselves conservatives like out there claiming that like saying oh yes yes
04:04:38.780 please please come and save us daddy i mean that's that's what i find the most pathetic that's what's 0.86
04:04:43.380 that's what it says irritated me the most but uh anyway uh i guess it just gets back to the fact
04:04:48.680 that canada needs to be a serious country again all right gentlemen that sounds unless you uh
04:04:54.940 Paul, do you have any closing thoughts?
04:04:57.240 I mean, I'll just restate Canada, if you do not become a serious country, annexation is the only good future that you have.
04:05:05.980 That's all I have to say.
04:05:08.080 All right.
04:05:08.940 Forsax, any closing remarks there?
04:05:15.360 Revenge for 1812, Canada now, Canada forever.
04:05:19.300 All right.
04:05:21.600 No, no, no, no, no, no.
04:05:22.760 I have more serious things.
04:05:23.980 look if you guys check out that article that i wrote we do have a few positive things going for
04:05:29.860 us it is very tempting in this day and age given our situation given our lack of political power
04:05:36.600 given our demographics given the economy given job opportunities given the upwards mobility for
04:05:42.900 young people i hear you i see you i feel you do not give up do not give up Canada lives on in all
04:05:52.600 of you one closing remark you know we're talking about this because we have the ability to talk
04:05:57.780 about it you know what greenland ain't talking about this you've never seen a greenlander you 0.98
04:06:03.280 never even heard a greenlander everyone else in this conversation doesn't fucking exist 0.98
04:06:08.500 we're talking about it because we matter you want a white pill there you go i'm gonna go get 0.99
04:06:14.140 to just some last shouts here paul faredheit here we go founding member of the old glory club check
04:06:19.280 out the paul the fahrenheit family archives on substack endeavor at royal endeavor on x check
04:06:26.180 him out on youtube look him up he's popular enough you just type it in he's going to come up uh
04:06:31.160 classic movies with more god you gotta check that out one of the top movie shows and there's stiff
04:06:36.200 competition for that fortisacks at 40 sacks on x check out fortisacks is typing on substack you
04:06:44.880 won't regret the article he had mentioned on there too and also Endeavor just dropped out but
04:06:49.440 he mentioned an article that I pulled up on screen I'm going to be talking about this on the next
04:06:54.980 episode of Blood Satellite about Trump and we'll get into it later but check out that article that
04:07:00.160 I pulled up during the stream gentlemen thank you so much for taking the time I had a great time
04:07:05.440 and I hope you all did too we got to all the the chats I believe uh yep good stream uh and we
04:07:12.900 respect your work as a heel paul oh endeavor just let me know that he cut out momentarily there he
04:07:20.500 didn't just abruptly leave so let that be known but we're ending anyway so have a great night
04:07:26.240 everyone and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you peg