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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.760 blood satellite this is a real fuck it episode i got a bunch a whole lot of gravel in me i got a

00:00:24.840 whole lot of gray goo we almost didn't do it in a hole in my pocket we could hear the complaining

00:00:31.360 coming at us in the future next week i think we'll have to skip the episode um i didn't want to do it

00:00:38.400 this week for reasons that we will get into but next week i might not be able to do it um but

00:00:44.680 like i was just scrambling and i'm heated and i i'm trying to figure out how we're going to get

00:00:50.540 this one out in time after i record it i'm shooting from the hip into my own chin not a lot

00:00:56.020 planned but we got a lot going on we were talking before like i just want to capture this story i

00:01:01.900 don't know how many people would be with me on this but um i back in the day i used to work in

00:01:08.580 restaurants i was a cook um and i went to culinary school and you know back in the day we store

00:01:13.680 construction and i got out of that and i got into white collar jobs and i got into marketing i had

00:01:18.360 been there for a shade over a decade and every so often i just get miserable with where i am

00:01:25.380 i hate the industry i hate who's in it i hate dealing with these people because it's mostly

00:01:30.540 women yeah in marketing it's mostly women so imagine imagine a woman and then imagine

00:01:37.140 so many more of them no i don't i don't wanna it's horrible woman alert i think of one woman

00:01:45.660 and then think of a room of them it's like i it beggars belief that such a thing could occur

00:01:53.100 but then you know i'm always looking i'm doing the thing i'm doing the bit where you look at

00:01:59.760 the trades i'm thinking man i should get a trade i want to get out of this because i'm in my 30s

00:02:04.620 and you start getting like i don't have a second win but maybe a second win is coming maybe

00:02:09.620 i'm my second act's gonna start and i started looking at that and i do the thing you go on

00:02:16.240 fucking google like what's what's the top trade what's the best paying trade and it spits out a

00:02:23.180 list and like the top one is you know this is a story for anyone who's in the chat who's wondering

00:02:29.800 why is dimes coming here saying he wants to be a millwright all of a sudden so i'm coming in there

00:02:35.500 and look at the top ones like millwright like industrial machinery that's like base salary

00:02:41.540 90k a year in canada and i'm looking at that i'm like man i should do that you know i'll and if i

00:02:48.660 start now and do the apprenticeship and do the track to that i'm like you know i'll be i'll be

00:02:53.900 up and running by like 45 like whatever the fucking process that's what ends up bringing me

00:02:58.400 back down to earth and living in that crater that i live in but then um and we don't need to go into

00:03:04.960 this too much but as we were talking before the show like i'm looking about what this job entails

00:03:11.780 like it fixing like the massive industrial machines you're the guy who comes in there's

00:03:15.500 not a lot of these guys out there who are skilled in the country and i'm like 90k actually seems

00:03:21.780 very very low even as a base salary because you're talking like going into this is the guy you call

00:03:28.180 when your factory is broken when your giant floor filled with mammoth machines breaks down you're

00:03:35.760 just the guy who fixes that like you should be being paid a million dollars yeah does that

00:03:41.480 that might sound like a dumb outsider's opinion but that was just what crossed my mind yeah i was

00:03:46.560 saying it earlier i don't i don't know for sure how it wound up that way but i feel like it has

00:03:52.280 something to do with the way that skilled like trades are regulated in in canada or north america

00:03:57.260 guess and the way unions are run now i i do like the concept of unions but it seems weird to me

00:04:02.380 that if you go up at the c-suite level you have like project managers or account managers or like

00:04:07.580 the executives above them pulling in insane amounts of money and i'm not saying they don't

00:04:12.300 do work like executives do actually they're important they make important decisions and

00:04:16.060 they're responsible for that whatever but i mean okay so there you've made an important decision

00:04:20.620 the company hinges on that decision so you get half a million dollars all right down the chain

00:04:24.460 and from there you might have like a systems engineer who might get what 150k maybe 200k if

00:04:29.700 you senior who and again the decisions he's making are critical right without him the company falls

00:04:35.260 apart but then you have a millwright or like even like a like a head operator or something at a

00:04:39.480 company the type of guy he's a floor guy though so it's not an academic skill it's a trade skill

00:04:44.480 but this guy without this one guy this whole fucking company can't even start in the morning

00:04:49.880 and they you know the whole thing would fall apart without him and it's like oh he should

00:04:54.280 be thankful to to take home 80 it's like bitch where's his half million honestly like what if

00:04:59.680 these guys walked away on mass all of the entire industry would shut down because they're they're

00:05:05.780 an absolute core requirement and yet they keep coming to work for adk and the only thing i can

00:05:12.260 think of is it has something to do with unions and regulation that they just essentially have

00:05:15.980 no other choice and i don't i don't know how else to explain it well it's funny because you know

00:05:21.160 i've worked in the places where the individuals are making six figures and here's another thing

00:05:28.440 that's going to sound it'll sound like an insult but it's not and you gotta believe me when i speak

00:05:34.740 of trades like this we're all aware of the trades and think how much these people these really

00:05:39.840 skilled laborers should be getting paid considering how retarded the average trade person is

00:05:45.560 you know like if you've ever been like i i worked in construction and i've worked in factories you

00:05:51.980 everyone who's done that knows half of these guys have shit for brains well this is the funny thing

00:05:58.320 right so i think it's less to do with intelligence and more to do with the type of personality you've

00:06:02.920 got but it's but intelligence does factor in but like if you look at a given factory floor or you

00:06:08.340 look at like a construction site in fairness 95 of those guys do are probably overpaid like if

00:06:15.100 if your job like if you're if you're a like a first year framer and you just have to like read

00:06:20.640 drawings and cut timber and maybe you know carry some tile and shit like okay fine i get it but

00:06:27.340 like you're talking about like for example like i would say i'm not i don't know a lot about

00:06:31.120 construction but using construction vaguely as an example if you have like a lead who's the guy

00:06:35.500 who's there on site and he has to read the drawings he has to communicate with either the

00:06:39.340 client or like the operations guy and he has to lead that whole site all day long he knows what

00:06:44.360 everybody else is doing, but he actually also has to be a carpenter. He has to know how the tools

00:06:48.180 work and what goes where and what's safe and what's not. That guy should be paid $120,000 a

00:06:53.880 year. Maybe he is. If he is, forget everything I've said, but I'll tell you what, in the factory

00:06:59.080 where I just worked, the three or four guys who are the only guys in the whole place who were

00:07:03.200 paid more than me were only paid like $2 an hour more than me. And these were the guys who they

00:07:09.020 were relying on to ship like three million dollar projects and the project managers and the client

00:07:15.740 were coming down and picking this one of them was this old he's an old jamaican guy actually

00:07:20.340 he's like 75 and they came down and they're just picking his brain but like is this gonna work

00:07:25.380 he's like no fuck it man that ain't gonna work and it's like okay it's funny because it's just

00:07:30.620 it's this this buck broken old jamaican guy at a dirty bench and he's getting paid like getting

00:07:37.520 paid what is it after tax he's making like twenty three dollars an hour canadian and the project is

00:07:43.340 going to bermuda we give the african-americans a lot of grief on the show but let me just say if

00:07:49.100 you find a proper buck broken old black guy there's nothing better i actually hated this guy

00:08:04.780 but i didn't hate him because he was black i genuinely just hated him because he was an

00:08:08.040 asshole and he might have been an asshole because he's black that's possible but he just had he had

00:08:12.380 that classic i'm the oldest highest paid guy on the floor don't fucking talk to me listen to me

00:08:18.500 like that that attitude which is respectfully he kind of he kind of was owed it because he he was

00:08:25.440 he's a fucking amazing guy like in terms of skill he was really good at what he did um but it's just

00:08:30.340 crazy that the if you look at the value of these projects like this particular project the one i

00:08:35.920 was thinking of that they fucked up like three times because the client made decisions that he

00:08:40.660 told them not to and they did it anyway like the cost of those fuck-ups in time and material was

00:08:46.340 in over the course of a month was like three times this guy's salary and we were all talking about

00:08:52.260 it at lunch the one day and it's like if they would just listen to us they would have saved

00:08:57.180 two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and they could have just given it to us you know we wouldn't

00:09:02.180 have to be here working for like 22 an hour 25 an hour like what the fuck man who's who where does

00:09:08.300 that money come from and i mean it's really it's really frustrating because like and the other

00:09:13.760 thing is this the well how did the problem get solved we're the ones who solved it it's it always

00:09:18.600 winds up being us because we're the ones who actually know how the like the the tolerances

00:09:22.840 of these materials and and the craft so you know things are bad when you got the podcasters looking

00:09:29.260 at getting into the trades yeah it's bad i was thinking the other day you know we'll get into

00:09:34.200 this a bit later uh about the exact reason behind this comment but you know guys like me are trying

00:09:41.280 to think of you know maybe world war three should kick off like everyone's saying you know everyone's

00:09:47.520 like oh who's gonna get drafted they might actually have a draft now if there's world war

00:09:51.780 three and i'm like i could be drafted i don't care man you think i was thinking that and they're

00:09:59.240 like oh you you want to get drafted like yeah there's not a whole lot of shit going on right

00:10:03.140 now i'm bored i'm ready for a war i don't know i don't i don't fucking care man and you know it's

00:10:14.080 like oh you're gonna go die for israel i'll i'll die for whatever no i was gonna say like in all

00:10:19.740 honesty is you know in minecraft or hypothetically or whatever if they instituted a draft here and

00:10:25.600 they had press gangs or whatever they're actually going house to house and collecting everyone like

00:10:30.280 i would rather die on my doorstep shooting a federal officer than dying in israel you know

00:10:35.900 like i'm gonna die anyway i so i don't i i don't know if they'd ever do it in canada well part of

00:10:41.720 me was thinking that any world war that occurs now because world war one and world war two were

00:10:47.400 already insane meat grinders and we like to think of them as more orderly than they were

00:10:52.600 but there was a lot of pockets of that war where no one really knew what was going on

00:10:57.260 um and weird things would happen same thing in world war ii these are not or total wars not

00:11:02.800 orderly like like just assume that there's rape and torture there's never not going to be rape

00:11:08.980 and torture and i was thinking that you know we talk about the clash of civilizations on a previous

00:11:15.800 episode about how it seems that going forward in the 21st century the the state as we know it is

00:11:23.640 becoming less and less relevant to the forces that are controlling world events um there's

00:11:30.940 more supranational entities and there's you know that that old conflicts are falling along

00:11:36.140 civilizational lines rather than these states organisms that are always kind of being redrawn

00:11:42.640 uh and i started thinking about you know in a total war situation if you i'm long story short

00:11:47.500 i'm trying to figure out if if you find yourself on a battlefield we should if you're on a battlefield

00:11:52.560 we should figure out how if you're a white guy and see another white guy we should get like a

00:11:58.440 hand gesture or something to signal that we're both white guys and then we don't shoot each other

00:12:03.480 amazing the okay the okay symbol yeah the okay symbol it could be you know the one i was thinking

00:12:11.720 of was just making a tea with your hands you know like time out it could be time out or it could be

00:12:19.500 maybe it's a cross you know it's kind of vague but i was just thinking about this for the show

00:12:25.620 running through the drills and how this would work and then obviously they're thinking well

00:12:30.100 what if it's like an israeli what if it's a jew you know and they look quite from distance like

00:12:36.360 well what you do is you make the sign and you know what'll happen they'll say well what does

00:12:42.160 that mean what are you implying with that then you'll know and you can keep shooting

00:12:49.300 yeah or you know if we want to play it safe do a tuck and roll into the bushes just leave the

00:12:57.740 situation you can you can abscond you know people don't think about that but when they're in war

00:13:03.480 they're thinking oh i gotta kill i have to kill or be killed have you considered rolling away

00:13:08.980 i remember when i was reading on killing that book by david grossman they were uh they always

00:13:16.700 do these studies on soldier behavior it's a really well studied area of human psychology

00:13:22.220 how people behave when they have to kill during the killing what soldiers actually do on front

00:13:28.100 lines and they'll say that you know there's those um statistics that get bandied around a lot that

00:13:33.020 a lot of soldiers will aim to miss um if they're just riflemen or whatnot i don't know how that

00:13:38.580 works in like iraq or with marines or whatever but looking back at you know trench warfare and

00:13:44.000 stuff a lot of people will take any opportunity to not actually shoot to kill um and there's this

00:13:50.240 one thing that you know if there's a fucking bombardment going on if there's a conflagration

00:13:55.440 going on a lot of guys will just like look busy like and i just like the idea that you know if

00:13:59.960 you're in a war just make you have your rifle but always make sure to bring a broom and always look

00:14:05.000 like you're on your way to sweep something so if you find yourself staring down uh an israeli

00:14:15.060 you just start sweeping get sweep yourself right on out of there yeah oh man yeah so

00:14:22.000 we got a couple things to get to we actually have a lot to get into this day and i'm gonna

00:14:26.920 like i said shoot from the hip it's people keep asking us to comment on the fact that um canada

00:14:33.440 is regulating podcasts yes thank you about it have you heard about this yeah so i'm looking at cbc

00:14:41.160 right now and full disclosure i have not looked into this at all until this moment looking at for

00:14:47.660 the first time now so what the h is going on here crtc registration for podcasts and

00:14:56.680 streaming companies draws criticism that's not good social what's going on here news that online

00:15:05.540 streamers and podcasters will soon be required to register with canada's broadcasting regulator

00:15:11.200 is raising confusion and concerns uh the crtc announced an online streaming and podcasting

00:15:17.120 services operating in canada with 10 million or more in annual revenue in this country will have

00:15:22.120 to register with it before november 28th so that to me is the real headline a um it's only for

00:15:30.160 people who make 10 million or more in revenue on their podcast uh the second thing which is what

00:15:37.480 i'm sure you're asking who's making 10 million dollars podcast yeah yeah aside from us aside

00:15:44.920 i mean like is this just against us yeah um it's a perspective echoed by canadian podcaster

00:15:51.880 jesse brown publisher of canada land who told cbc news rise that it's uh concerning him what

00:15:58.780 they're signaling is quote we are going to be regulating the space but we're not telling you

00:16:02.720 how that makes it very hard it still blows my mind there's people who have podcasters their

00:16:08.920 main job all jokes aside um like there's a guy named jesse brown it's like yeah i'm a podcaster

00:16:15.520 and this affects me is he a bot is this real but this is something that canada tries to do with

00:16:23.700 everything i mean canada has strangely the thing about canada is it's always tried to be on the

00:16:31.660 cutting edge of technology doesn't succeed all the time and it's certainly not silicon valley

00:16:36.540 but it always tries to be a digital friendly place but it's always the first through the door

00:16:43.380 in trying to regulate anything digital.

00:16:46.820 I remember the big news coming out of Toronto

00:16:50.480 was it was these Canadian law firms

00:16:53.180 who were trying to bring Uber drivers

00:16:57.740 and gig economy workers as full-time employees.

00:17:01.740 They basically wanted to destroy the gig economy.

00:17:04.620 However you feel about that is immaterial.

00:17:08.680 But Canada, you would think,

00:17:10.600 would you know try and you know encourage that but we've always been trying to bring everything

00:17:17.220 under the umbrella of state control and it's never really worked out has it no and the other i mean

00:17:25.440 it's funny in crypto and even in the stock market um it's much more difficult to trade stocks in

00:17:32.260 canada and it's almost impossible to trade crypto in canada like you said if you want to trade

00:17:37.520 crypto not just like buy bitcoin but if you want to actually trade crypto trade crypto in canada

00:17:43.600 you have to like use a bunch of loopholes and use taiwanese software or get a u.s passport or

00:17:49.920 whatever they really don't want you to like i've had i've had bank transactions flagged with bank

00:17:55.720 of montreal just because it was like related to a it wasn't even a to a crypto exchange but like

00:18:02.140 it was possibly related to a crypto exchange and they like gave me a call that they didn't want to

00:18:06.500 send the money like jesus christ it's it's crazy how much they want to regulate this shit

00:18:11.240 now we're going to move on from that um and i'm going to we're going to get into a topic this

00:18:17.260 might be a very controversial episode i'm not sure where everyone's going to land on some of

00:18:22.320 the takes we have but this might be old news but we didn't get a chance to cover it when it was hot

00:18:29.000 Remember that Antifa guy who was stabbed in Brooklyn?

00:18:34.420 Yeah.

00:18:35.940 Ryan Carson and his girlfriend were still dressed in their wedding finery,

00:18:40.120 sitting at a bus stop when a stranger walked past them.

00:18:43.140 It was 3.50 in the morning as they strolled down the block on their way home.

00:18:47.680 The deranged man began kicking over parked scooters and screamed,

00:18:51.560 What the blank are you looking at?

00:18:53.200 victim Ryan Carson stepped in between the unhinged man and his girlfriend trying to protect her

00:19:00.680 but the stranger goes berserk taking a swing at him Ryan tries to push his attacker away

00:19:08.240 and run but trips over the bus bench as the madman stabs the 32 year old victim

00:19:14.400 his girlfriend pleads for mercy as Mr. Carson laid dying on the sidewalk the male with the knife

00:19:21.660 kicks him in the chest, threatens to stab the woman companion and spits in her face.

00:19:28.180 A woman can be heard yelling off camera. She appears to know the assailant and calls him

00:19:35.160 Brian. I'm so sorry. My name is Ryan Thorson Carson and I'm a political organizer. Carson

00:19:42.600 was a lifelong activist, most recently working as an environmental staffer for New York Public

00:19:47.920 interest research group i wanted to hear your thoughts about that about the whole thing because

00:19:53.320 i got two articles up here that you know they're the most recent updates that i can find so for

00:20:01.760 those who don't recall uh this was a for all intents and purposes a progressive activist who

00:20:09.460 a white guy active in new york active in brooklyn advocating for everything you can imagine safe

00:20:16.780 injection sites blm um you know name a thing he he would probably still be very very upset with

00:20:25.460 kyle rittenhouse that's a real bugaboo for them uh but he was caught on camera being stabbed

00:20:31.920 by an unironic black just a completely seemingly random attack con on camera he's with his

00:20:40.440 girlfriend they're dressed apparently to go out but because of these types of people they're going

00:20:47.500 out dressed looks like dog shit like jeans and a blazer a very stabbable outfit yeah not to you

00:20:54.720 know you don't really hear that problem guys what was he wearing yeah but i think it's even more

00:21:00.340 relevant in these cases two pieces a few pieces of evidence really came to light during this

00:21:05.400 One was that, of course, the irony of the ACAB, all cops are bastards, people, all the social media posts of the both of them hating cops and loving black people.

00:21:19.320 Then the here's an update from the site.

00:21:24.580 Girlfriend of Brooklyn activist picks wrong guy in photo lineup of murder suspects.

00:21:30.580 girlfriend and key witness to murdered nyc activists delivered potentially devastating

00:21:36.580 and crippling response on the murder suspect when she picked different a different person

00:21:41.020 from the photo lineup of potential suspects um so the question would be whether or not this is

00:21:47.960 on purpose because it could very well be that the ideology of this woman is prohibiting her

00:21:54.640 from actually like fingering the guy who did this because deep down even if she's not consciously

00:22:01.960 doing it she deep down believes that this this young black man shouldn't be in the system

00:22:06.800 then um they got him here uh and look at the daily mail right now brooklyn teenage stabbing

00:22:14.260 suspect brian dowling 18 looks downcast as he appears in handcuffs in an orange jumpsuit in

00:22:20.280 court as his pastor claims he suffered traumatic he suffered a traumatic event before the community

00:22:27.840 slaying community activists so he's got his pastor there another black guy and i've seen videos of

00:22:33.800 this literally just saying like he had a traumatic event wouldn't describe what it was he said

00:22:39.340 dowling's parents are pentecostal christians there's a red flag his father jehovah's witnesses

00:22:44.280 and that the teenager knows god as if who else is a lot you know last time someone someone was

00:22:51.040 stabbed in a racially targeted killing when's the last time that the pastor was allowed just

00:22:56.280 to speak to the press and say no he's really religious has that ever happened um he he

00:23:03.760 described himself as dowling's spiritual guide since he was a baby odd and revealed that the

00:23:08.940 boy had been through a traumatic event before the stabbing won't say what it was um the child that

00:23:14.860 we know is an obedient nice respectable child that's a lie i can look in his eyes and tell

00:23:20.140 that something just isn't right you know well because you look in his eyes and you see dead

00:23:24.460 black guy eyes um clinton win a close friend of the family added he's a good kid very humble

00:23:31.980 yeah these are you know i i get into this in uh um i'm going to get in this actually in a video

00:23:37.100 that i'm going to release to our gum road um in a little while about uh just on the topic of how

00:23:43.280 black people treat their families um and this is something you can probably pull from any american

00:23:48.120 renaissance article but one thing i noticed is like looking at the family and friends that gather

00:23:53.380 around this you know man who's accused of murder it's like they'd never really have much to say

00:23:58.560 about them like if my son was accused of murder i'd have a lot of detailed things to say about him

00:24:04.960 if prompted but they go up to the father and the mother and the aunt it's like he was humble what

00:24:10.620 the fuck does that even mean yeah yeah it's like they're talking about like a guy they know from

00:24:16.480 work they don't know their own kids that's really what i'm trying to get at here yeah and you know

00:24:21.880 i think also it's part of it is them closing ranks like you think they'd probably have a million

00:24:27.040 things they'd probably constantly you hear them they go off on each other you know in the waffle

00:24:32.300 house or wherever or in their own home talking all kinds of shit about how much they hate each

00:24:36.760 other and who harmed who but then of course if it's a white reporter or a police officer they're

00:24:41.940 going to close ranks and oh he didn't do he didn't do nothing he a good boy yeah like what do you

00:24:47.180 mean a good boy these are things that you the greeting card statements but i'm always taken

00:24:51.580 aback by how like the family of whoever the black guy is that's on trial like they don't seem to

00:24:56.920 know him very well anyway that's a bit of a tangent um i'm sure everyone knows this case

00:25:01.200 those are just a couple of updates the other update was that his friends immediately started

00:25:06.000 a go fund me campaign to get to all his antifa friends to solicit donations just because because

00:25:13.860 there's money to be had right um and of course like and we're laughing at it that's what we're

00:25:19.200 doing um and then what i was hearing was the same sort of consternation the same sort of tutting

00:25:26.120 that occurs on our side it's like okay are we going to be ghoulish are we going to be

00:25:31.360 mean-spirited and laugh at a man who is stabbed to death and i want to hear all that's the question

00:25:40.120 are you just going to laugh at a man who was stabbed to death and i want to hear your answer

00:25:44.660 to that question first yes okay because my answer is the same and i don't know i'm trying to think

00:25:54.960 back if i always felt this way or maybe i've gotten worse and i've i'm so far in the weeds

00:26:01.300 i can't tell right from wrong anymore but i keep returning to i ask myself one question who am i

00:26:07.740 trying to impress the only people who would be impressed by this are the enemies are the people

00:26:14.520 who are already watching me to see how i'm going to react to this um on the other hand uh this

00:26:20.540 individual on his facebook page he was full of nothing but mockery for anyone on the right who

00:26:28.500 had died like he would be laughing at that ashley babbitt who got shot in january 6th like there's

00:26:34.640 nothing that makes these guys happier than someone like us getting shot or because here's the thing

00:26:40.980 like typically we don't think rape is funny you know we we kind of joke about it but like if a guy

00:26:46.080 someone we don't like goes to prison

00:26:48.060 like ha you're gonna be raped forever

00:26:49.980 like that even that seems a bit too far they say

00:26:52.100 that all the time and I'm always

00:26:53.820 reminded of that Sam High quote like when

00:26:56.000 we win never forget that these

00:26:57.940 motherfuckers want you're raped and your

00:26:59.940 children mutilated they think it's funny

00:27:01.900 and like I

00:27:03.820 who am I trying to impress

00:27:05.960 by not thinking that and let me let me just

00:27:07.980 say this and then you you can go because I want to hear what you say

00:27:10.040 but like to me this is the

00:27:11.900 only thing you could in a

00:27:14.080 good conscience laugh at because

00:27:15.860 he actually wasn't killed by someone on the right he wasn't killed by one of his enemies he was

00:27:20.860 killed by one of his pets he was killed by a black person going through a mental health crisis

00:27:25.980 and if you can't laugh at someone being consumed by their own mad scheme what can you laugh at if

00:27:34.060 you can't laugh at someone being the architect of their own fucking demise he wasn't targeted

00:27:40.440 he wasn't assassinated he made the situation that led to his demise like i i don't what that's just

00:27:46.860 pack it up and go home absolutely and you're right like this is there are no other situations which

00:27:52.000 are more laugh worthy than this and for me you're saying earlier how did we get like this like i've

00:27:57.400 kind of always been like this and i've found justifications for it along the way but it's

00:28:00.900 kind of a friend enemy distinction thing and you can see them already doing this so at the very

00:28:05.840 least it's fair game as you say that when this happens to us they laugh at us now they don't

00:28:10.460 laugh at their own they only laugh at us and likewise we should laugh at them i would laugh

00:28:14.780 at him even if he died of leukemia and i would laugh at him if one of our guys assassinated him

00:28:19.480 i would laugh at him if he died saving orphans from a burning orphanage i'd laugh at him because

00:28:24.820 he's the enemy he's not one of us and i want it's good for me that he dies and it's even better for

00:28:31.400 me if he dies in an embarrassing way that brings shame to his family that's amazing i'm very i'm

00:28:36.920 thrilled that he's dead and that everybody is laughing and that it's a big media circus

00:28:41.420 and and that in his death everyone who he loved turned on him and and and again like brought shame

00:28:50.020 or embarrassed his legacy that's just it warms me inside and again distinction i would never say

00:28:56.900 that about our people right but he's not one of us and this distinction being able to have a

00:29:04.580 different set of rules for your people and for everybody else is this core problem that whites

00:29:11.480 have which is the reason our civilization is collapsing because we don't apparently like we

00:29:16.220 we can't naturally do this like you have to be uh tested and trained and honed and beaten up before

00:29:23.840 you learn this and usually we don't learn it till a very late age apparently but we need to we need

00:29:28.740 to learn as whites that it's totally fine to just laugh at your enemy getting mutilated yeah what

00:29:36.800 happened was for people who might need this framed a different way this you let's the listener you

00:29:44.400 owned a plot of land

00:29:45.760 this guy stole

00:29:48.540 your land through some

00:29:50.520 legal chicanery

00:29:52.140 once he possessed your land

00:29:54.500 he built a giant house

00:29:56.680 on it and the house was in the shape

00:29:58.460 of a giant black butt

00:30:00.500 he lived in a giant

00:30:02.460 African American ass

00:30:04.640 with a door on the front

00:30:05.920 and no windows

00:30:07.720 only one window at the very top

00:30:10.180 and then one day

00:30:12.580 that house collapsed on him

00:30:14.580 and you were standing there watching

00:30:16.320 because you got nothing to do, you got nowhere to go

00:30:18.340 you're living in a Windows 95

00:30:20.320 screensaver, it's just a pastoral field

00:30:22.460 with this black acid and now it's just a

00:30:24.540 puff of smoke and he's consumed

00:30:26.520 by his wretched

00:30:28.360 architecture

00:30:29.100 you have to laugh at that

00:30:32.240 that used to be

00:30:33.460 in the 1700s that would be a

00:30:36.420 children's poem

00:30:37.300 this is probably one of the greatest blood satellite

00:30:40.260 allegories ever

00:30:41.340 the problem with this you've made it so

00:30:44.280 so visibly funny

00:30:46.140 that you're laughing at it

00:30:48.200 already and now

00:30:49.960 then you have to question the morality of the laughter

00:30:52.200 like that it is

00:30:53.260 that's fucking funny morality comes later

00:30:56.160 what play this in

00:30:58.220 court if you must

00:30:59.420 and if that jury laughs

00:31:01.420 you kill that judge

00:31:03.760 somebody clip that

00:31:07.660 play this

00:31:10.100 podcast in court

00:31:11.260 and if that judge laughs

00:31:13.080 you try that jury

00:31:15.700 and if anyone says

00:31:21.480 I'm investing in Judas coin

00:31:23.440 everybody goes to jail

00:31:25.660 sorry guys

00:31:28.260 yeah

00:31:29.480 but that's my policy and I know

00:31:31.420 there's a lot of people because this thing

00:31:33.440 called the dissident right it's a lot of disjointed

00:31:35.640 and you know barely

00:31:37.420 adjacent groups and I see where people

00:31:39.460 are coming from but i'm so far past feeling bad about seeing like the people who want to see me

00:31:46.680 dead and raped and imprisoned and laugh every time it happens to us like there's there's all

00:31:52.720 the bad things in the world i want to happen to them i won't cause it i will we will never be the

00:31:57.380 ones who instigate it but that's some ironic shit like every time you hear a lib living in a liberal

00:32:05.700 city who who votes liberal every single time and then they get their house broken into and lit on

00:32:11.960 fire at the very least you can say good i don't know what like this they voted for it you got it

00:32:19.340 yeah you fucking got it perfect congratulations ding dong

00:32:23.640 have fun fun in hell have fun in gay hell okay so the example of it's it's funny because you said

00:32:32.660 oh you know it's difficult to find anything that's more laugh worthy than a an antifa left-wing

00:32:37.460 activist being killed by a feral black in new york and it's like i mean if he committed suicide

00:32:44.260 that would also be pretty laugh worthy but we're saying like this is tantamount to suicide like

00:32:50.740 you literally had a hand in engineering it's as if you handed the guy the gun you know what i mean

00:32:57.280 like it's it's almost it's almost slapstick yeah and i don't want people to feel bad about finding

00:33:03.680 it funny or not caring because you know you'll feel bad that you're not living up to some standard

00:33:09.880 for yourself that standard only handicaps you you need to want you need to want to see these people

00:33:16.980 destroyed because that's what you used to do with criminals too like like like you need to want to

00:33:21.860 see like criminals who are cancers on society people like to go to the electric chair that

00:33:28.480 used to be a thing you could bring kids to now you go watch a fucking lady with a syringe miss

00:33:35.200 the vein for 45 minutes it sucks it's boring it is it's anti-horny it's the worst way to be

00:33:42.420 executions used to be a thing you did in the afternoon now it's something you do with the

00:33:47.840 shame of the evening and you know what what you can't fucking hang hang a rapist from the feet

00:33:55.040 and then have a cow kick him in the forehead that used to be a society this isn't a society

00:34:00.440 this is this is just a a bath house where the kids have guns this is not to say you should

00:34:07.000 abandon being a conscientious person being considerate having personal standards you know

00:34:12.420 moral principles the point is that all of these things have a limit like a hard visible geographic

00:34:20.680 demographic limit and outside of that limit they don't apply so this is a case where it doesn't

00:34:25.860 apply i'm an extremely principled and conscientious person that guy is outside of my conscientious

00:34:31.060 circle so don't care glad let me write it to all the to all the good christians listening to this

00:34:37.400 christians used to go to witch burnings and you what they used to say fuck that bitch exactly

00:34:43.940 jeez she was the worst man i can't man i wish i wish we could burn her a second time that's what

00:34:54.100 a priest used to say do you know how much shit talk that that's where the term roast came from

00:35:00.520 the amount of shit talking you'd see when you're roasting a person i can't imagine that's true but

00:35:06.820 i wish that it was imagine just imagining like norm mcdonald roasting a witch in like 1820

00:35:14.840 it's so good you know wishing is just a belief with its cock and balls in a cuck cage

00:35:24.100 you know let it out you know you can just you can choose to just believe whatever you want

00:35:29.060 all right you know what it's real man it's real for me i don't want to hear people saying they

00:35:32.880 wish anyone's saying that they're wishing for this or that you either believe it or you're doing it

00:35:39.040 or you can just uh take a fucking hike yep this is an anti-wish program oh i wish uh i i i i i

00:35:50.420 wish fuck you die die die i'm gonna beat your fucking knees in with a guitar

00:35:59.020 i lied when i said i had a lot to talk about today oh we got plenty

00:36:05.820 my wife had made a point before the show she had said you should do you should take the episode off

00:36:15.860 and say it's in solidarity and respect for the war in israel which side both yeah well the point

00:36:26.040 like not because everyone we had people saying what's the take what's the take i'm like you know

00:36:29.880 what respectfully we're going to rescind we're going to sit this one out of like the most i'm

00:36:38.120 i promise people i'm not doing a bit where we say we're going to save it to the end of that just not

00:36:41.900 do it i just wanted to get some stuff out of the way um and this is what i'm going to do instead

00:36:48.300 of a movie corner so no one's allowed to get mad just some updates on show related things and show

00:36:53.980 adjacent things so one thing i really wanted to talk about um and we mentioned this on our twitter

00:37:00.400 so at legally ironic also on our telegram channel people follow that um if you haven't seen it we

00:37:07.820 are partnering with a very enigmatic figure from our scene named mike of paul and we've been working

00:37:14.900 together all of us have been working together on a limited run of fitted caps they're a limited run

00:37:21.660 multicolors and he's got this these leather patches that he's burning with images it's

00:37:29.080 branded to blood satellite stitched into the hat we're going to make those available on the good

00:37:34.200 suffer store goodsuffer.com with a v instead of a u this is one of the most i'd say artisan items

00:37:43.840 that we have this is something where a lot of great care is being taken in the creation of it

00:37:48.660 we have a lot of video and footage of how it's made we're going to be including that

00:37:53.520 this is something i think we're really passionate about and this is something that we're going to

00:37:57.820 hopefully continue doing going forward with all of our items because myself and judas and his

00:38:05.540 highly skilled wife we're talking about sort of the next evolution of the good suffer store

00:38:11.080 and i think that involves bringing more manufacturing onto our side and producing

00:38:17.220 the items kind of whittling down the items that are on the store but making them ourselves make

00:38:23.080 bumping up the quality bumping up the you know the story that this is actually just made by our

00:38:29.600 guys and we're not outsourcing anything we're doing the shipping we're doing everything soup

00:38:35.120 to nuts and that's something that i've been wanting to do for quite some time so this is

00:38:40.060 this is the first step of us doing that it's nothing stupid it's nothing offensive either

00:38:44.920 It's not like you're going to wear this hat and get into a fight with a bunch of Crips or a bunch of spicy Latinas skulking around.

00:38:53.940 You could do that anyways, but you're not going to be obliged to do it because of the hat.

00:38:58.680 But if you did it while wearing the hat, that would be really cool.

00:39:01.840 If you hear the siren song of I Poppy wafting on the wind, just take your hat off before you mosey on over there.

00:39:09.880 Because you're like, ooh, I Poppy.

00:39:11.480 like there's no other analog for that in any other there's no like asian version of ipoppy

00:39:17.340 there's no you know i mean there's no indian version of ipoppy that is strictly a sloppy

00:39:25.720 wet latina thing to do top to bottom and so i'll blame i'm gonna say is other bitches

00:39:33.580 get your shit together because latinas are you say there's no there's no asian version of ipoppy

00:39:40.840 you could do

00:39:41.940 slant eye poppy

00:39:44.500 you could also do opium poppy

00:39:46.260 that is very funny

00:39:56.060 it's highly amusing

00:39:58.040 oh man, I should keep this voice

00:40:00.480 with the rest of it

00:40:01.420 based, Keanu Reeves

00:40:03.820 well I was going to say Batman

00:40:05.940 but sure

00:40:06.980 John Wick as Batman

00:40:09.100 imagine john wick as batman it's like you complete me yeah

00:40:19.360 um another thing i wanted to direct people's attention to was we have a new article up on

00:40:28.640 vanguardist journal that's vanguardist journal.com uh once again that is the outlet for the topics

00:40:34.840 that we discuss on the show that are treated in a bit more of a serious long form way this one i

00:40:40.800 ended up working quite a bit longer than i intended to on i think it's around 7 000 words but it's on

00:40:46.020 the um we discussed a long time ago about you know the nature of evil and how to delineate between

00:40:52.040 evil and mental illness and i get into the therapeutic state and the over medicalization

00:40:58.600 of evil it's this really interesting article that i'm very very happy with and i think it's

00:41:03.840 It's quite relevant to things that are going on right now.

00:41:08.340 So that's all I'm going to say.

00:41:09.640 I would encourage people to check that out,

00:41:12.720 spend a lot of time on it.

00:41:14.520 And I think if you're a fan of the show,

00:41:16.020 you'll be a fan of it.

00:41:18.140 And also, I think I mentioned this

00:41:21.120 perhaps on our last live stream.

00:41:24.620 Also, people go subscribe to our live stream channel,

00:41:27.320 Blood Satellite Nights Live.

00:41:29.060 Also, we have a YouTube channel going back up,

00:41:31.000 Blood Satellite Clips.

00:41:32.540 So if you can search that on YouTube,

00:41:33.840 we could find it we're putting stuff back up on there slowly uh just to test the waters to see

00:41:38.460 if we could think this is our third attempt we keep getting we keep losing the account after we

00:41:42.560 get to around a thousand subscribers that's very frustrating anyway uh we have a new uh video

00:41:49.700 going up on our gumroad and our patreon we encourage people to use the gumroad but uh we

00:41:56.900 prefer you know we have patreon for people because some people like it we prefer gumroad

00:42:00.940 uh we've been debuting a sister show called real secret coffee hours i just uploaded episode two

00:42:09.280 of that uh essentially what it is is a lot of people will send me or us questions or articles

00:42:16.680 that they would like answered or commented on or they'll send us posts just stuff and i wanted to

00:42:23.400 maybe shine a spotlight on that so it's just uh shows where we discuss that uh the first episode

00:42:30.060 was about an article someone sent me about bud light this past one um a lot of people were very

00:42:35.800 interested in i review an article written for man's world magazine which is a magazine published

00:42:42.740 by raw egg nationalist um the article is written by bronze age pervert and it's called the

00:42:47.080 populist moments never happened i believe that's the name and so i reviewed that article it ends

00:42:53.300 up being an hour 45 so you know these are like full shows and so i just go line for line it's a

00:42:59.780 video you see me go through it we read it it's like a reaction video people like that sort of

00:43:04.460 thing uh give a shot five dollars a month to get access to that and the first 100 episodes of blood

00:43:10.620 satellite they're up on there plus all kinds of other posts but you get this whole other show

00:43:14.860 that i'm trying to get up every second week just to make it worth people's fucking dolery do's

00:43:21.520 and just one last thing and maybe you can help me on this i wanted to give another

00:43:28.900 second shout out to our

00:43:31.380 sponsor Axios Coaching

00:43:33.300 because

00:43:35.160 we are on an affiliate program

00:43:37.160 we don't even get paid for this fucking shout out

00:43:39.340 and that's what I realized I was thinking

00:43:41.320 like damn you know because I'm not getting

00:43:43.180 what we're getting paid from is the affiliate

00:43:44.960 you sign up we get a cut

00:43:46.420 I'm not getting paid for any fucking copy right here

00:43:49.440 so I'm going to say whatever the fuck

00:43:51.280 I want and if you people if you motherfuckers

00:43:53.820 look at me

00:43:54.840 you motherfuckers you want to

00:43:56.980 you want to stop fucking around you want to do your duty and you want to be you want to be white

00:44:04.040 you you join axis coaching and you give us a cut sign up we got the affiliate link in the

00:44:10.940 description of this episode go fucking do it and i'm just good you know i've you should you

00:44:16.140 want to why you should do it it's because you should get in fucking shape because we're you

00:44:20.020 know there is a war coming you're going to be fighting in it and you know every every in the

00:44:26.120 future there's only the rapists and the raped and you want to be raped no one does so you should

00:44:31.640 fucking lift yeah you know you know there's no second option you can you can choose to rape but

00:44:37.120 you have to rape but maybe it's not a person maybe it's a tree maybe it's a hole in the ground maybe

00:44:42.380 it's a hobbit hole some kind of thing that's going to be you'll have the power to make that decision

00:44:47.460 but it's only if you can command dominance over time and space in your immediate area and there's

00:44:55.780 too many fat fucks wandering around there's too many short guys and if you're short the only thing

00:45:01.780 you can't go vertical you gotta go longitudinal right you gotta go horizontal it doesn't make

00:45:10.420 sense otherwise you know i got a i got a son when they're a baby you don't know if they're really

00:45:15.700 going to be tall or short i think he's going to be around my height what if i got a short son

00:45:21.520 what the fuck am i gonna do i told my wife this and she said you're gonna you know what you're

00:45:27.220 gonna love them all the same i said am i i hope so i hope i can love us the son who has a grown

00:45:35.960 man is shorter than me i can but you know what i don't fucking know and he's gonna know that every

00:45:41.800 time he he looks up at me he's got because you look down at someone you only have shame in your

00:45:47.340 eyes you can't that's why women are so insecure all the time because you know you can look down

00:45:51.860 at a woman with as much love and affection as you want when they look up they're just seeing shame

00:45:56.620 and disgust as they should that's just nature you know you you can ideology your way around that all

00:46:03.100 you fucking want doesn't make sense if i have a short son that's how he's gonna feel what's he

00:46:07.720 gonna do he's gotta go horizontal he's gotta bulk he's gotta he's gotta get squats he's gotta get

00:46:14.180 lats going that's the only way he's going to be able to defeat me and defeat me he's going to

00:46:19.200 have to because i am going to be a a abusive man towards him i may look down on my son but i look

00:46:28.560 up at his lats i'm going to tell him you get you get your fucking short ass over to axios coaching

00:46:39.000 and he's gonna set you straight because you know you're a guy these guys they go into gyms like

00:46:44.440 you know what i'm gonna do because guess what new year's eve's coming up motherfucker idiot

00:46:49.380 moron shithead dullard you're gonna walk in there say i'm gonna um actually i'm actually i'm gonna

00:46:56.740 start lifting now that's you i fucking that's the nerd voice that's you nerd emoji guy it's been

00:47:04.380 and you're gonna go there you're not gonna know what the fuck you're doing you're gonna pick up

00:47:07.060 a squat rack. You're going to have a squat.

00:47:09.720 You're going to put your legs up in the air.

00:47:11.740 You're going to get your fucking

00:47:13.340 ankles smashed by some

00:47:15.020 gym bitch.

00:47:17.940 The women are worse than the men.

00:47:20.460 They can choose to go to their

00:47:21.620 own gym. They don't want to. They want the fresh meat.

00:47:23.740 They want the vermin that come in.

00:47:25.360 That's you. Nerd emoji guy. You're the fucking

00:47:27.580 vermin. You're going to get your bones

00:47:29.600 split down the middle by these

00:47:31.500 mean girls in the gym. If you don't

00:47:33.600 know what you're doing, you're going to be fumbling

00:47:35.280 like a giant puzzle clitoris

00:47:39.160 when you walk up to some of these machines.

00:47:41.220 And you're thinking,

00:47:42.100 oh, everyone's not watching me.

00:47:43.520 They are.

00:47:44.260 They're watching you.

00:47:45.360 You're judged.

00:47:46.120 There's nowhere in life

00:47:48.100 you're judged more than the gym.

00:47:49.720 This is all very demoralizing.

00:47:51.780 I know.

00:47:52.320 Well, that's why you need Axios coaching.

00:47:53.880 You need a guy to tell you

00:47:54.820 to set you straight.

00:47:56.000 So you walk in there with confidence.

00:47:57.620 You walk in there.

00:47:58.840 A woman walks up to you.

00:48:00.980 You know exactly how to spit in her face

00:48:03.600 where she doesn't call the cops.

00:48:04.660 or dimes you can't do that yes you can here's the secret to life you can abuse women all you want

00:48:10.900 you just got you just gotta have the cheat codes axios will get you the game shark to woman abuse

00:48:18.320 that's on the copy it's just something i believe axios is going to teach you how to spit in one's

00:48:24.800 face and they're not going to call the cops yes sign up sign up now this is the thing that people

00:48:32.560 forget about women they don't know how to use a phone that's why they get killed and molested all

00:48:37.080 the time they could call the cops but they just use their phone for games and social media you

00:48:43.320 know you get them in a real a dilly of a pickle they don't know how to fucking call the cops

00:48:47.320 it takes them it'll take the average woman 45 minutes to call the cops

00:48:53.100 if you if you do the most heinous war crime upon their titties

00:48:57.960 so you want to be that guy you want to be a big swinging dick in the gym

00:49:04.540 february 1st well this is what you do get in he'll tell he'll get you set up

00:49:09.760 because because what he'll probably tell you is it starts with the nutrition do you do you even

00:49:15.040 know maybe he's not going to tell you do we know enough about the program to say this i mean we

00:49:20.340 know week three is teaching you how to how to abuse women but i mean what is the what is the

00:49:25.460 rest of the program you're gonna go to him and say can you teach me how to abuse women he says

00:49:30.860 when i'm done with you i will need to tell you how he's gonna get you drinking the shakes he's

00:49:37.320 gonna get you you know not lifting with your spine he's gonna give you the toolkit to make

00:49:43.860 you into the adonis who can step outside of social norms you won't need to commit crime

00:49:49.940 you will be crime i hope hope some people join now all right so it's it's time i think to get

00:50:00.460 to the meat of it and i'm sacrificing movie corner to get into this and i'm really throwing a hail

00:50:07.080 mary pass here because i don't know if we'll have enough to talk about because this might be a very

00:50:12.600 very short segment but hey hey judas what are your feelings on israel v palestine yes um

00:50:21.620 yes i'm i'm happy this is this is one of the greatest weeks of the year you're just loving

00:50:30.880 it right now yeah nearly 3 000 people attended the tribe of nova festival in raym israel on saturday

00:50:42.600 It would become one of the deadliest sites of Hamas' surprise attack on Israel.

00:50:49.880 Over 250 bodies have been recovered from the festival grounds and surrounding area.

00:50:56.320 Hamas launched a surprise assault on Israel on Saturday, its biggest in years.

00:51:01.440 Gunmen from the Palestinian Islamist movement crossed from Gaza into Israeli towns in an unprecedented infiltration.

00:51:08.100 Hamas also fired a heavy barrage of rockets into Israel.

00:51:12.600 We are at war, said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and the enemy will pay an unprecedented price.

00:51:23.760 Israel's military said its forces were operating inside Gaza, but gave no details.

00:51:29.500 Hamas military commander Mohamed Deif said the group had fired 5,000 rockets.

00:51:36.520 This is the day of the Great Revolution to end the last occupation on Earth, he says.

00:51:42.600 Iranian security officials helped Hamas plan the surprise attack on Israel, senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah said.

00:51:49.860 The green light for the attack, which included air, land and sea incursions, was given at a meeting in Beirut last week.

00:51:57.780 There's a lot I want to say. There's a lot I don't want to say.

00:52:01.420 One, once again, we're breaking our embargo on not commenting on developing stories.

00:52:07.980 But I just think there's enough to discuss right now based on not only what we've seen as of right now.

00:52:15.080 This is October the 11th, 2023.

00:52:17.760 Anything could happen because a lot of people have made predictions that have been not correct so far.

00:52:25.880 And there's some things that people predicted that maybe will happen later.

00:52:28.280 like everyone was predicting that you know this would be the response to palestine's incursion

00:52:36.060 and attack would be swift and merciless and it's not very swift um and there's a lot more

00:52:42.820 external pressures that seem to be impacting israel so it's not as just like the ukraine

00:52:48.480 conflict the the war in ukraine was supposed to be over within a season it's still ongoing like

00:52:55.780 i've never seen anyone be right about any of these predictions so i'm not going to try and

00:52:59.940 predict which way this is going to go i'm not going to try and predict whether or not netanyahu

00:53:04.200 will be ousted or re-elected i don't really have an interest in that but um one thing you tell me

00:53:11.860 if i'm right on this it seems to me that none of the information that i've been given or none of

00:53:19.780 the battlefield photos can really be trusted uh is that your experience as well absolutely it's all

00:53:27.080 a fraud it was funny because i i got into a bit of an argument with someone someone who i like

00:53:32.160 because there was you know what happened was palestinian soldiers quote unquote terrorists

00:53:39.160 whatever flying into that edm festival and then there's this one video there's this woman who went

00:53:46.160 missing this very fetching young woman and then there was a video of like a corpse on the back

00:53:52.760 of a pickup truck and they were telling us that that was her that was the captured you know club

00:53:58.880 goer and then you know one of our good friends someone we had on the show john carter he had

00:54:05.220 pointed out he's like you know what i don't speak arabic i don't i i can't say for sure what this

00:54:11.320 photo is i see a dead woman on the back of a pickup truck i see brown people i don't know

00:54:16.880 they could be turkish i don't know what this is i can't i don't know there's not there could be

00:54:20.480 three dialects being spoken here and then interestingly like people like that were

00:54:26.220 being accused of being schizo like oh you think everything's fake you think it's all ai and i'm

00:54:31.660 like look i remember you know the first big time i remember this happening to me and i was called

00:54:39.860 on it was when osama bin laden was allegedly killed and there was like photos circulating of

00:54:46.200 his dead face and then it was proved to be like a photo a very sloppy photoshop composite but it's

00:54:53.620 like yeah like every single international engagement that i've ever been privy to like

00:55:00.000 the first thing that you see is like bullshit videos or videos from seven years ago they're

00:55:05.520 just being trotted out now every day social media is flooded with photos and

00:55:11.220 videos of what's unfolding between Israel and Hamas but not all of what you

00:55:16.020 see is true like this video allegedly showing an Israeli helicopter getting

00:55:21.180 taken down by a Hamas soldier it's been viewed half a million times but it turns

00:55:25.980 out it's not even real it's actually from a video game then this video

00:55:30.660 claiming Israeli airstrikes in Gaza. Now this did happen, but it was back in May, according to the

00:55:36.460 Associated Press. Then this video claiming Israeli airstrikes in Gaza. Now this did happen, but it

00:55:46.120 was back in May. And so like my policy is like, I don't really know what any of this is. I don't

00:55:52.880 know enough about this region to tell like if that pickup truck is a fucking Palestinian pickup

00:55:58.580 truck because it all kind of looks the same anyway does that sound reasonable no that's that's all

00:56:02.960 true i agree even people on the right ostensibly are taking the israeli side like there's lines

00:56:10.520 being drawn everywhere right now and that's what i find most interesting about this conflict right

00:56:15.340 now uh what i'm seeing is similar to covid there's a fracturing and people are kind of revealing

00:56:22.920 there's a reveal preference going on right now like the the jews are one side you know we kind

00:56:27.740 to know where they're going to follow this but there's a lot of people on the right who can't

00:56:31.280 decide if they like israel or palestine um and i guess that would be the next thing because

00:56:38.780 what is your take when people are like you know which side are you picking because you have to

00:56:44.760 pick a side if i had where do you land on that if i had to send funds and arms to one side

00:56:50.540 right now i would very cautiously send them to hamas but only up to the point where hamas

00:56:57.720 starts winning then i would start sending them to israel until hamas and then gaza strip is

00:57:04.020 burning and then i'd send some money and weapons to egypt and maybe egypt could get involved as

00:57:08.840 well that would be cool and jordan and lebanon and fuck maybe maybe we could could you think

00:57:15.620 we could convince the Chinese to just drop

00:57:17.740 a hyperatlantic missile on the Middle East?

00:57:19.840 Just all of it? Just glass the whole

00:57:21.680 thing? That would just be glorious.

00:57:24.980 Yeah.

00:57:26.020 That, to me, is

00:57:27.600 the perfect response.

00:57:29.600 I don't think there's a better one.

00:57:34.980 Winner!

00:57:35.560 We don't need it. It's useless territory.

00:57:38.080 The Mediterranean is kind of

00:57:39.540 nice in some areas, but not that corner.

00:57:41.560 You don't need that corner. There's a little bit

00:57:43.560 of oil, there's some olives, and

00:57:45.480 there's just a lot of rocks like it's not a big deal if it's uninhabitable to humans for the next

00:57:50.100 5 000 years it's not a big deal there's a lot of space elsewhere on the planet okay we can we can

00:57:55.040 nuke it it's all right yeah because there was this meme floating around um it was just like some

00:58:00.620 interview it was with henry cavill and he's an uh he's an interview and it's like you know who

00:58:06.060 should have the land israel or palestine he goes rome and i said yeah what the fuck fuck you're

00:58:16.240 framing like who israel palestine like how about her majesty how about fucking you know how about

00:58:23.660 france how about france takes over i don't give a fuck how about anyone except israel and palestine

00:58:28.260 how about us give it to somebody who just doesn't want it and has no idea what to do with it like

00:58:32.900 madagascar new zealand or something they're like no we don't want it's like no no it's yours now

00:58:37.340 yeah it's like no please oh israel palace on which side how about licked and shine nigger

00:58:43.660 how about fucking fucking fucking switzerland you fucking slave you ref you you you you

00:58:53.120 beat you person who is trafficked let's give it to mongolia give it to fucking mongolia give

00:58:59.820 honestly a second judas coin is going to the moon right now let me just say that and i say that as

00:59:07.320 someone who dumped it all i do not stand to gain anything from saying this i i am not i am slippery

00:59:15.320 eel hands on judas coin uh this is going to the moon because yeah give it to why not mongolia

00:59:21.380 they they deserve another go at it it's been a thousand years you know like you're pissed off

00:59:27.460 at china what do you think china is going to do with mongolia has is in the holiest place on earth

00:59:32.920 just just just keep it interesting right who like say explain that to someone

00:59:41.420 of any race they're going to want to see what happens um but yeah like my policy and this is

00:59:47.860 what kind of this is the second part of my long chain of takes but i remember i started seeing

00:59:54.420 some memes circulating targeting this position because my position was i i don't like either

01:00:01.380 side and i started seeing like you know like you're a soy jack is with a soy face but this was

01:00:07.220 like a a snoot jack it was like a pretentious self-obsessed you know you know obviously a fat

01:00:15.100 ugly ape creature but he's like actually both sides are bad they took the thing that i was saying

01:00:21.640 and made a snoot jack out of it they can't meet dimes do that no no no no constantine of cope

01:00:28.440 and sneed they're they're fucking chud chud soy fucking snoot jack and me you cannot soy jack us

01:00:34.880 you're our rule and i didn't appreciate that

01:00:37.560 there's there's acting out of pocket and then there's this i do not deserve this and i honestly

01:00:48.480 And to be real, though, to me, like saying that I want both sides to lose what they will tell you, I'm going to steel man the position, I think, of the people who are saying that it's like, well, you need to figure out where your self-interest lie for self-interest is against Israel.

01:01:05.500 and also if your self-interest is nationalism here seems to be a nationalist cause in the form

01:01:12.680 of palestine so as a nationalist you must support all other national uprisings or nationalist

01:01:19.860 uprisings throughout the world it's third worldism through and through um and i don't subscribe to

01:01:26.800 that i know a fucking nazbol third world is fucking bullshit argument when i hear it and

01:01:31.880 i'm not falling for it again um you're not gonna because they wouldn't see themselves as

01:01:36.420 nationalists anyway they do not fit into our paradigms they don't fit into our definitions

01:01:40.880 um so like my self-interest is reflected neither in israel or palestine and you're not going to

01:01:49.360 fucking convince me otherwise because you know you have people say like oh no palestinian

01:01:54.040 ever called me a goy well they call you an infidel um they also rape their way across

01:02:00.680 europe like you are not going to convince me of siding with muslims you're not and anyone who's

01:02:08.120 convincing you otherwise should be you should be suspicious of frankly because they haven't thought

01:02:13.060 about it through because also you have to think i think if i'm going to say this when people would

01:02:19.900 say you know you need to support the palestinians why well you must amplify their message because

01:02:25.940 you want to win a strategic victory as momentary as it might be against israel and chiefly i would

01:02:33.700 say that what's interesting is that israel to my mind is experiencing an all-time low of public

01:02:41.160 approval uh not only from the political right broadly but also the left like the progressives

01:02:49.480 have been beating the drum against israel for decades now a lot of leftists are a lot of

01:02:55.820 communists or they will say it's an apartheid state they hate israel because it's colonial

01:02:59.880 the right hates israel insofar as it does hate israel because it's jews liberals are indifferent

01:03:07.840 and we're kind of on a with an engage in a war for the liberal mind right now but the only people

01:03:12.240 who love love love israel are conservatives american conservatives but you're not going to

01:03:18.620 find many other groups that are really in favor of israel and i think a lot of jews know this

01:03:25.740 and so so to me it's like well what does the right actually bring to the table because we are in the

01:03:31.100 midst of losing this sort of narrative like like the right has been anti-israel for a long time

01:03:36.540 and it's had a lot of very well reasoned and measured arguments against israel and my concern

01:03:43.340 is that if we just throw in behind the arabs and say they're the champions of anti-israeli

01:03:50.260 sentiment then that's just another battle we're going to lose that we will surrender to an enemy

01:03:54.940 which would rape and kill us any other day of the week like you want to talk about the friend-enemy

01:03:59.220 distinction most people don't understand the friend-enemy distinction we did a whole video on

01:04:03.740 uh carl schmidt's you know the front the concept of the political and the friend-enemy distinction

01:04:08.180 i don't think people truly have the ability to delineate between existential enemies and just

01:04:17.000 political enemies i think they see muslims as like existential allies and only political enemies and

01:04:24.580 in reality it's reversed like they are through and through europe's existential enemy they're

01:04:31.200 like the more you the more power you grant to them it will come at the cost of europe and i

01:04:37.340 see people like presenting me again with a strange framing where it's like okay which side do you

01:04:42.440 want to pick if israel loses that means two million jews are going to flood into europe

01:04:47.740 if palestine loses that means it's going to be seven million palestinians that flood into europe

01:04:54.260 so which one do you want to pick do you want jews or palestinians or do you want the status quo and

01:05:00.460 And I'm like, I once again return to neither of these outcomes are in my self-interest.

01:05:06.380 And I'm curious to hear what you think about this, because what I would say to dissidents and people on dissident, right, is that these are arguments from a prey position.

01:05:17.400 These are arguments where you don't even you're not you don't have a seat at the table.

01:05:21.320 You are merely throwing in with an enemy, one enemy you think is better than your other enemy.

01:05:28.000 It's not.

01:05:28.660 both of them want to destroy you both of them want to sexually humiliate you any power granted

01:05:36.880 to the muslim world will be wielded against europe and white people and anyone telling you

01:05:41.920 any different needs to be treated with the utmost fucking hostility yes absolutely any and i i'm not

01:05:48.260 saying anything there's a lot of people who are like you know muslims are our brothers distrust

01:05:52.600 them they will lead you on a primrose path into fucking hell like you need to keep these in mind

01:05:58.840 so what you need to be asking is a how can we make a sea at the table for ourselves because

01:06:05.600 we've always been against israel for very good reasons don't just like what we're doing right

01:06:10.480 now as distant right people as like white nationalists or nationalists or whites or

01:06:15.100 however you want to describe it is like it's like when fucking um liberia tries to because

01:06:22.380 liberia is technically owned by the u.s and they wanted to participate in the iraq war

01:06:27.640 and america just didn't want them and it was really embarrassing that's us right now saying

01:06:31.580 we're in favor of the palestinians like they don't want you they hate you they think you're stupid

01:06:36.100 and it's fucking gay that we're doing this it's embarrassing if you try and throw in with

01:06:40.640 Palestinians you're fucking embarrassing and you're only hurting your own image frankly that's

01:06:46.460 my position what we need to be talking about is how we can own that narrative for ourselves have

01:06:50.940 the seat at the table and be what we how we can stop arguing from a prey position how we can start

01:06:56.660 because what all we're saying is what's the least worst for us we've accepted the eventuality that

01:07:01.660 no matter what happens in this conflagration in this war we're gonna get flooded with refugees

01:07:08.200 whoever wins it's bad for us

01:07:11.220 I want to investigate that

01:07:13.100 you know what I mean like

01:07:14.800 if we're just arguing from which is least

01:07:17.200 bad we're fucking peasants

01:07:18.760 that means Europeans are the peasants of the fucking

01:07:21.040 world right now

01:07:21.880 I cannot sleep at night

01:07:25.260 if I am facilitating that

01:07:26.840 and all these motherfuckers

01:07:28.060 who are trying to make you advocate for Palestine

01:07:31.060 are also the white strike types

01:07:32.660 do not participate in a system

01:07:34.600 that is oppressing you

01:07:35.860 well don't participate in this fucking propaganda war that's only going to be used to oppress you

01:07:40.160 as well that's that's my fucking position absolutely totally correct i see it thrown

01:07:45.580 around all the time like it's uh an enemy of my enemy is my friend type thing but it's like

01:07:50.540 that is usually talking about a neutral third party who you have no relationship with but

01:07:54.640 that's not true in this case both of these groups are our existential civilizational enemies we've

01:08:01.560 been at war with both of them simultaneously for 1000 years 1000 years at least at least you know

01:08:11.840 islam we've been at war with for what 1400 years 1400 years the jews how long have we been at war

01:08:18.420 with them on and off for 2000 years actually since christ so i mean and it's been non-stop

01:08:26.340 a non-stop battle for the control of the planet so as a christian and a european the only correct

01:08:33.480 stance to take is this is this is a european planet you're just living in it for now and

01:08:40.180 as i don't care what happens over there i just want a situation that minimizes the number of

01:08:46.220 survivors i don't want there to be a lot of survivors because when we come over there in

01:08:51.260 50 years to build a white city. I want to, I don't want the cost to be quite as high. That's

01:08:56.680 how I view it. And I don't, I don't understand how it's people have a really short memory,

01:09:02.280 you know, like it was not that long ago that we actually had some pretty strong

01:09:08.140 hate on Muslims, totally deserved hate on Muslims. And it's all gone out the window.

01:09:13.420 Like they're playing the underdog now. And we have all of this propaganda of Muslims, like

01:09:17.900 arm in arm with christians to fight the jews like no man no they're they're equally our enemy i don't

01:09:24.460 it's really it's it i think when you came back you said the idea of it being embarrassing

01:09:29.040 that's my feeling about this it's like with the kanye thing previously i just feel perpetually

01:09:34.240 embarrassed i don't know how people get drawn in by this yeah like the kanye thing is another great

01:09:41.120 example which is like we we couldn't find a better vanguard of our opinions you know like we hate

01:09:49.340 we hate dumb rich niggers in media who glorify sex and violence but we also hate jews controlling

01:09:55.560 the media when the dumb niggers in media fight the jews now we have to pick which one we like

01:10:01.380 no you're allowed to hate both of them still like just because they're you should be glad that

01:10:06.840 they're fighting each other and as I said at the time I'm thrilled that Kanye blew up his own

01:10:11.600 career in order to fight the Jews I love it I love that he essentially destroyed himself I wish he

01:10:16.620 destroyed himself more because I hate him and I wish he did more damage to the Jews because I don't

01:10:22.000 like the Jews so I mean but you don't have to be like on his side and like I said I would if Hamas

01:10:28.900 was losing I'd say hey let's send some money to Hamas just because I want to see again I want to

01:10:34.080 minimize survivors that's the goal yeah and i keep returning to that first point which is like

01:10:40.480 the frame of who who should be who is better for us if we control who whoever controls the

01:10:47.180 territory who is better for us the only one it's better for is us and we're not having that

01:10:52.180 conversation we should have the conversation that that it should never have left slipped

01:10:56.700 through the fingers of britain you know what i mean like right right everything but since we're

01:11:01.540 we sense as distance we cannot break from the frame of i have to pick one of these two sides

01:11:06.800 like like we're not even ready to speak you're not ready to have a seat in that conversation

01:11:12.340 if you're your only way to engage it is with those two choices it's fucking embarrassing

01:11:17.840 the other thing that's just amusing is you know this isn't anything this is par for the course but

01:11:23.720 watching jews go mask off on this entire thing oh man yeah and you know like ben shapiro is

01:11:32.460 a good sort of barometer for this where just just the bloodless and again i we talk about this all

01:11:39.060 the time but jordan peterson like just the series of tweets that i saw which is that okay

01:11:46.540 Palestine attacks Israel

01:11:48.380 Israel attacks Palestine back

01:11:50.000 destruction on both sides

01:11:51.760 Hamas on the Palestinian side

01:11:54.460 is flirting with a

01:11:56.520 truce a ceasefire

01:11:57.800 and Jordan Pearson of all people

01:12:00.420 is like we're way past

01:12:02.640 a truce it's like what the

01:12:04.520 fuck are you talking about

01:12:05.900 Mr. you know fatherly

01:12:08.680 liberal Kermit you know what I mean like

01:12:10.460 and then the Jews are like no truces are

01:12:12.560 over the only thing we'll accept is

01:12:14.280 rivers of your blood and

01:12:16.360 this will seem you know very familiar for people on our side but i just want like i love looking

01:12:21.780 at these tweets about like jews just like laughing at the prospect of like killing women and children

01:12:28.640 saying if you surrender now we're still gonna fucking grind you into dust and think it's funny

01:12:34.500 they're calling the palestinians savages they're calling them animals netanyahu is calling them

01:12:39.920 fucking animals like that's fucking insane like when's the last minute anyone was called that

01:12:44.700 allowed to call anyone an animal well the the whole the the general who announced that he called

01:12:50.980 them uh where they're human animals we're gonna fight them that way he's announcing a siege he's

01:12:54.780 announcing that he's cutting off water and power and food which is against the geneva convention

01:12:59.660 it's a war crime he's not just committing a war crime he's announcing in advance his intention

01:13:04.420 to commit a war crime and of course immediately the un comes out and says hey guys that's a war

01:13:10.540 crime can't do it uh they do it anyways and then you have jordan peterson of all people saying the

01:13:17.460 un is evil now apparently it's no no hold on the un is an is an evil joke that's what he called

01:13:25.020 look i hate the un as much as the next red-blooded american but this is not a reason that they're

01:13:32.180 evil this is one of the only useful things that they have are you know some kind of some kind of

01:13:38.780 model for what

01:13:40.860 for what a war crime is

01:13:42.580 for Christ's sake

01:13:43.380 oh man

01:13:44.760 and again look I'm totally fine

01:13:48.840 with them sieging Hamas as long as

01:13:50.880 they as long as we can besiege the rest

01:13:52.800 of Israel I think well why don't we just

01:13:54.560 why don't we just siege the entire eastern Mediterranean

01:13:56.460 I don't know but if you're going to be

01:13:58.340 if you're going to have the rules

01:13:59.780 you know you should enforce them

01:14:02.420 or don't enforce them but don't selectively

01:14:04.440 enforce them I just want to read a couple

01:14:06.380 of my favorite takes from this this is just

01:14:08.580 the take market so one that i saw from on twitter by a guy named lee he says one grand cosmic irony

01:14:19.660 in all this is that the most reasoned and prudent takes are coming from group chats named racist

01:14:26.480 super friends or death camp enforcement squad and the absolutely most unhinged shit on earth

01:14:33.440 is from places like linda's 50th birthday planning group

01:14:36.840 and and like that is true like you know all all the fucking nazis the ones trying to take a

01:14:43.200 measured approach to this but like libs and like regular conservatives like the bloodlust

01:14:49.600 i'm seeing discussed on cnn of all places it's like no yeah these people should die men women

01:14:55.340 and children they should act they need to be exterminated i think we all agree that palestine

01:15:00.040 needs to be exterminated right and i'm like i i again this will sound boring to some people but

01:15:05.100 i was flabbergasted when i saw this stuff you see laura loomer's take laura loomer catholic

01:15:12.240 christian laura loomer who's no longer a jew because she got a nose job is immediately like

01:15:17.260 hamas has had more than enough time for children to evacuate it doesn't matter how many kids are

01:15:22.540 left to bomb it kill them all holy shit lady somebody should bomb you you look like a fucking

01:15:29.660 goblin and i also i i said this on twitter uh somewhere beneath that i said hey guys remember

01:15:35.460 when nick fuentes of america first was trying to get her elected to congress oh my god like like

01:15:43.020 like really really hard trying to get hurt he's one of like three people they tried to get elected

01:15:47.600 officially yeah okay let's see how's how's that going you fucking okay um and also just some other

01:15:55.960 stuff this is just evidence of what we were saying at the top about not really knowing how to judge

01:16:01.400 um what's real or fake there is disinformation being disseminated from israel an act of sheer

01:16:10.180 evil more than 1 000 civilians slaughtered i just go slaughtered in israel among them at least 14

01:16:21.040 american citizens killed parents butchered using their bodies to try to protect their children

01:16:29.360 stomach turning reports of being babies being killed i i've been doing this a long time

01:16:37.120 i never really thought that i would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children

01:16:46.000 President Biden added that terrorists were beheading babies in Israel but later a White

01:16:52.480 House official clarified that the president did not actually see those images but was referring

01:16:57.680 to reports from Israel. So here's just a tweet exchange I saw here from Aditya Raj Kowal. This

01:17:08.320 is from the looks of it a fighter on the ground fighting for Israel. It says a pregnant woman in

01:17:15.100 southern israel was found by hamas terrorists they dissected her body her stomach was cut open

01:17:21.480 and they took the fetus out with the umbilical cord and let the unborn child die slowly out of

01:17:27.660 his mother's womb this is what inhuman savages hamas do to people someone responds how do you

01:17:34.400 know this and this lady responds from my friend avishay from the ground who has the photographs

01:17:39.740 with her can't post it like it's just like they're just making up like and i hate to say it but

01:17:47.260 you know just to return to one of our perennial criticisms this is jews making up atrocity

01:17:53.040 pornography and when you hear it you'll say that doesn't sound right that sounds a bit over the

01:17:58.500 top and grotesque um like not just to put too fine of a point on it like this is just like

01:18:05.860 holocaust shit this is them saying and then we were on we were on roller coasters and there was

01:18:10.500 electric floors and they had machines like they won't make a stop jerking off they had machines

01:18:14.960 that made us jerk off actually actually that's what they did and that there was babies they took

01:18:18.340 the babies out alive and then they burned them and then they ground them up into sausages and

01:18:22.200 ate them like it's just nonsense but now more than ever people are like hey do you have evidence of

01:18:27.740 that it's like because here's the thing that's funny about israelis and jews is they don't think

01:18:34.060 that far ahead with these stories

01:18:36.240 and then they have

01:18:40.000 neocons just parroting it it's like can you

01:18:42.060 believe Hamas captured

01:18:43.940 40,000 women and all

01:18:46.060 raped them in a row one by one

01:18:48.200 in a perfect line

01:18:49.480 and then they filmed it but then they burned

01:18:51.960 the photo because of course there can't be

01:18:54.000 photos of it that would be too

01:18:55.660 terrible to be evidence of it

01:18:57.760 and they just say this

01:18:59.980 without expecting

01:19:02.220 anyone to say are you sure

01:19:04.020 um there's one tweet here by uh autumn groiper that i think summarizes as well it says you are

01:19:12.960 seeing in real time why violent event denial is now prohibited on social media platforms

01:19:19.720 he gives a list here chemical weapons in syria the babies taken out of incubators in iraq

01:19:25.280 russia bombing orphanages migrant toddler in turkey 9-11 holocaust and now hamas killing babies

01:19:32.700 There is such a thing as atrocity propaganda. There always has been. People must be able to scrutinize these claims, especially since this is often used to galvanize public support for war.

01:19:42.840 I do think that is true. Like if you have noticed that, you know, questioning tragedies, questioning violent events is the most egregious thing you could do on social media platforms. I think whether or not it was designed with this in mind, it does seem to heavily favor those who have the most ludicrous stories imaginable and the biggest crocodile tears. What do you think about that?

01:20:06.860 yeah absolutely absolutely yeah and then there's stuff coming from jews themselves like there's

01:20:13.000 one here where this is so funny the big news was that see the funny thing about america is that

01:20:20.440 a lot of democrats used to be very friendly towards jews and jewish interests until the

01:20:27.960 jews that are in charge of democrats populated them with a bunch of non-whites and so now it's

01:20:35.060 guys like Cenk Uygur, it's like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, it's all the browns, it's all

01:20:40.580 the foreigners who are in there who don't really give a shit about Jews and the Black Lives Matter

01:20:45.180 movement. The Chicago BLM chapter posted on X an image of a paraglider just like the terrorists

01:20:52.420 with the fluttering Palestinian flag above the words, I stand with Palestine. And the comment,

01:20:58.920 that is all, that is it. BLM chapters, including those in Louisville, Detroit, and Los Angeles,

01:21:04.340 also showed their support, reposting that image.

01:21:08.620 I mean, it's horrendous to see that there are 33 student organizations at Harvard,

01:21:12.940 which is arguably our most prestigious university in this country,

01:21:15.860 who've said that they hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for the unfolding violence.

01:21:21.580 I mean, it's just, it's absolutely shocking to see more and more student groups piling on.

01:21:26.260 And I have to say, like, as somebody who's a member of Gen Z, who's 23 years old, who...

01:21:30.860 Woman alert.

01:21:34.340 i've just got two tweets here back to back by david weissman once from 2021 he's saying i will

01:21:41.580 never stop saying black lives matter and may even get a shirt myself then there's one from just a

01:21:47.460 day ago he says fuck them maybe the right was right about black lives matter it's just like

01:21:54.460 watching all of the jews come up against again what once more the golem they've created of like

01:22:01.560 non-whites deciding they don't give a shit about jews and jews not knowing what to do about it

01:22:05.980 that's why they're ramping up the atrocity porn because they need to harangue the liberal psyche

01:22:11.440 with as much carnage as humanly possible and i was even on twitter talking to some people

01:22:17.340 where it's like you know say what you will about israel who was it it was this guy um let me find

01:22:24.120 his name he's a canadian guy named billboard something or other anyway is this one guy he's

01:22:29.620 say we will about israel but they never celebrated you know women innocent people being killed

01:22:35.520 and it took me like two seconds to find an article about like israeli settlers watching a bombing on

01:22:42.560 gaza and cheering it on i i was thinking about this the other day if you kind of have you felt

01:22:48.080 like there's been a lot more infiltration of jews into dissident right far right spaces over the past

01:22:53.700 year or so i wonder if that's related to what you're saying about they've kind of cut themselves

01:22:59.140 off at the, at the knees for the left wing. They've put, they've, they've created so many

01:23:04.860 problems and they've brought so many people into the hardcore left wing that actually are the

01:23:10.740 existential enemies of Jews that it's become hard for them to operate. And even though the right

01:23:15.380 wing contains literal Nazis, we're still moderate enough that we will accept guys like BAP, you know,

01:23:24.100 guys like, I'm forgetting everybody's name there, but we, we got a fucking load of Jews over here

01:23:29.000 right now that we're all half of our guys are defending on any given day so yeah like

01:23:34.580 that's another topic that we're kind of probably going to get into in the future but i do notice

01:23:40.580 a lot of like jews once again countryless nationless wandering around looking for a new

01:23:47.360 home and i think they're trying to find it on the right and because they're being chased out by all

01:23:53.220 browns you find a very let's say nuanced relationship with israel where like israelis

01:24:01.980 and the zionist movement represents a sort of aristocratic vitalism in the area in the region

01:24:09.200 whereas the the brown underclass represents you know the just the the gross global south that

01:24:16.200 trying to like they're trying to position israel as like the vanguard of europeanness

01:24:24.520 and that israelis if not for western longhouse sensibilities would be allowed to be like the

01:24:32.140 savage warriors that they were during the initiation of the zionist movement so like

01:24:37.700 you are seeing that that's been encroaching for quite some time and like it's another version of

01:24:45.220 what we were talking about at the start like they're making you choose well do you like the

01:24:49.100 cool aristocrat warriors of zionism in israel or do you like like the savage arguably bronze age

01:24:59.400 mindset um terrorists of hamas and i just don't accept that framing i don't accept that i need

01:25:06.320 to pick one or the other i think both of them i think neither of them are the model that i should

01:25:12.420 aspire to and i think that's a a strange framing and i again i don't want to go off on a big rant

01:25:17.180 here because i kind of do it no that's fine i'm on the real secret coffee hours episode but like

01:25:21.580 that it's the exact same uh either or you know decision that they're prompting you with it's

01:25:27.420 like well i mean if if if this is you have to like the israelis because like they're they're

01:25:33.000 kind of like the awesome superheroes like i don't accept that fuck you um and anyone who's

01:25:38.720 Like I said before, anyone who's giving you that prompt should be treated with suspicion because they will usually change that view when it's presented anywhere else.

01:25:48.940 Anyway, I don't know what really to do about it.

01:25:51.640 And, you know, we're not overly hostile to Jewish thinkers.

01:25:56.000 We mentioned Jewish philosophers on the show.

01:25:58.420 We mentioned Jewish influencers.

01:26:00.500 i endeavor to keep them not at a distance but always keep in mind that there's certain facts

01:26:09.020 that you know that you know you don't need to believe that jews are the controllers of

01:26:15.920 world events you know to understand that well they are an influential group on the world stage

01:26:23.200 they have the means to advocate for their interests at a disproportional size within

01:26:28.280 the american government and they have a very distinct and unique ethno-religious homogeneity

01:26:34.340 and connection with other jews and they will always act within their self-interest and i don't

01:26:38.300 think it's a conspiracy theory to say that groups operate within their self-interests in fact the

01:26:43.800 only groups that don't do that are like anglos and european whites like we're kind of historically

01:26:50.720 unique for that but like it doesn't seem altogether crazy to say that you know jews

01:26:57.700 act and jewish self-interest and they have an identity that's far more ancient and distinct

01:27:04.640 than what a lot of anglos would see themselves now so like you know i can find what they say

01:27:09.720 interesting however i am aware that if allowed within a group or organization they will always

01:27:17.880 tilt it towards their self-interest and it is my true belief that jewish self-interest is

01:27:24.100 diametrically opposed to european self-interest i think that's just been borne out by history i

01:27:28.720 think that's been borne out by experience i think that's been borne out by what they advocate for

01:27:32.960 um you know what i hate to go back to this but one example for just to give an example i'm not

01:27:38.840 trying to harp on this but bronze age pervert in an article written in 2019 said that the zionist

01:27:44.160 movement according to the zionist founders was they were trying to be sort of the vanguards of

01:27:48.840 european-ness in uh in palestine that's what israel is supposed to be is supposed to be like

01:27:55.340 we are representing europe over here and it's true that it did say that i don't believe them

01:28:01.900 though it could be because i don't trust how jews define european-ness and we discussed this when we

01:28:07.040 talked about leo strauss who was the originator of the neoconservative movement and effectively

01:28:13.940 redefined conservatism as we know it and the entire identity of the republican party

01:28:20.680 so well and we did a clip on this everyone can go look it up leo strauss well what did he do he was

01:28:26.680 a jewish foreigner who came over here as an intellectual and helped redefine the idea of

01:28:33.680 america to be what we know now which is free market capitalism which is tolerance and it is

01:28:41.860 a heavy, heavy friendliness towards Israel and Zionism.

01:28:46.380 That's it. You wonder where that came from? It came from Jews,

01:28:50.000 just like when we talked about the tri-faith America, how

01:28:53.780 Jewish immigrants tilted the entire

01:28:57.740 government apparatus to be more about tolerating foreigners.

01:29:01.800 We've seen what happens when the first thing they do

01:29:05.800 is they redefine the host country to be, if you

01:29:09.760 think about it, at the heart of your identity is accepting Jews. So forgive me if I don't buy this

01:29:17.340 fucking fable that a bunch of Zionists moved to Palestine to represent Europeanists. Well,

01:29:22.500 what part of Europeanists? Was it European history? Was it European nationalism? Was it

01:29:29.860 paganism? Was it Christianity? Not really, because the Israeli view of Christianity is they will

01:29:36.060 tolerate it as a subservient religion

01:29:38.180 in the region. They will tolerate it

01:29:40.140 as long as it's beneath them, as a lower

01:29:42.160 caste. So is that

01:29:43.980 European-ness? Christianity

01:29:46.260 beneath Judaism? Well, that is

01:29:48.160 according to the Zionists, and that's what

01:29:50.200 it is according to fucking Jews.

01:29:52.480 You did it. It's alright.

01:29:54.160 It's worth it. Yeah, but that's what

01:29:55.720 they will do when they

01:29:57.720 enter into a scene, when they enter into a

01:29:59.980 country. It's just this weird thing

01:30:02.120 that happens. The first thing they do is start

01:30:03.960 saying, you know what, if you think about it

01:30:06.020 aren't israelis based aren't they super cool shouldn't we try and be more like them fucking

01:30:11.640 blow me and i'm sick of people getting bewitched by this shit don't be so hungry for approval and

01:30:19.060 like networking and friendship and being you know having a right opinion that you go along with

01:30:24.460 somebody who just like just step back for a second use your grug brain your lizard brain and just look

01:30:31.340 at what the guy's saying is he essentially just saying is real cool well freddy you know that's

01:30:37.080 not true so how about we just zip his lips turn it off tell him to go fuck himself just don't even

01:30:43.980 engage don't even you why do you there's so many there's a whole world of people out there that

01:30:48.620 you could listen to and read from and interact with without having to ever sit across the table

01:30:55.680 from somebody who is promoting israel you like you don't need to right stop giving them the time

01:31:01.680 of day it should be this should be a hard fast rule if they have even an inkling of support for

01:31:08.500 judaism the jews or israel out the door gone it's over don't want to hear it you know i'll yeah and

01:31:16.260 sorry i was gonna say like if they do that just be aware that they're not going to be in favor

01:31:22.740 of your thing that's going to be their thing that that will always supersede whatever it is so if

01:31:28.100 you want to work with them just be aware of that that's what i was kind of starting with i'm like

01:31:32.000 i don't need to believe that they're the architect of all world events but i know

01:31:36.660 where their allegiances lie i know what they like to do i know what historically they have done

01:31:41.280 so i'm always going to keep them in that bucket and at least they're open about it but like i

01:31:47.160 know what i get with them so i'm not gonna which is to say that which is to say they're not

01:31:52.480 trustworthy they can never be trusted so and this is the thing it's like well i mean i know he's not

01:31:58.020 trustworthy on that issue but we can still cooperate on x y and z no honestly unless you're

01:32:02.520 extremely desperate you really should not and cannot because you're it's only a matter of time

01:32:06.840 before you get burned like ask ask the next guy who wants you to side with israel and israeli

01:32:14.540 nationalism ask them what they think about european nationalism do they all of a sudden

01:32:19.400 have a lot of caveats and asterisks and concerns about what that means yeah yeah exactly so you

01:32:25.420 know like this is just another false dichotomy that you're being corralled into and aren't you

01:32:31.460 sick of being corralled into false dichotomies don't you feel powerless don't you feel like

01:32:36.680 you're just being used as a propagandistic resource and so i guess the point we're getting

01:32:42.900 to is like let's because here's the here's the thing i was going about to get to which is that

01:32:47.480 you ask yourselves do either of these parties serve my interest as a group as an identity

01:32:53.140 whatever that identity may be what most people struggle with is they don't know what their

01:32:58.320 self-interest is within the israeli-palestinian conflict they've already admitted it's a lose

01:33:03.500 lose scenario they don't have an ideal situation in this conflict they just picked less bad

01:33:09.420 that's it so what we're trying to get people to think is like

01:33:14.100 we need to start thinking about what is our actual ideal outcome what is our blue sky scenario

01:33:22.960 and how can we actually get to work that instead of always falling for these individuals who are

01:33:29.160 just trying to present you a false dichotomy to effectively get you on their side and there's this

01:33:35.260 book that I read recently that kind of ties into this that I thought was very very interesting

01:33:40.380 and it's quite long but it's written in such a way that I can kind of explain it

01:33:46.420 pretty quickly and there's some things I liked about this book some things I didn't like about

01:33:51.180 this book but I think of the things that we've covered I think this will give people a lot to

01:33:56.640 think about and it ties directly into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict I think which is why

01:34:02.940 I think that's a very, very highly advanced, highly skilled segue I just executed.

01:34:08.540 Nice.

01:34:09.400 The book is called The Network State.

01:34:13.060 It's by Balaji Serenovizan.

01:34:18.020 I don't know if that's a real name or a fake name.

01:34:20.180 If it's real, damn, that sucks.

01:34:22.800 Anyway, it's a pretty good book.

01:34:24.320 If I had to summarize this book, it's like an NRX book.

01:34:28.760 NRX, neoreactionary.

01:34:30.540 So if you're familiar with your Curtis Yarvins, you're familiar with a lot of the sort of dissident right figures who are more into the technocratic side of things.

01:34:41.320 They're more into, I wouldn't say this is Nick Land.

01:34:44.860 I wouldn't even say this is like Bronze Age Pervert, even though they're in the same kind of milieu.

01:34:48.940 But there's a subset of people, the people who think that, you know, America should be run by a CEO, a tech CEO, you know, those types of people.

01:34:59.540 And it's a very tech friendly book.

01:35:03.040 So if you are agnostic on technology or critical of it, you might not like this as much.

01:35:08.840 But I think there's if you kind of parse through what's being said and not some of the language, you'll find a lot to like.

01:35:16.460 Like, I'll give you one example of something I found annoying in this book.

01:35:21.620 It's unforgivably Internet poisoned in the sense that on more than one occasion, it uses the word LARP.

01:35:28.360 oh no and this is a serious book or it's supposed to be a serious book it's well written

01:35:33.280 it's well formatted um it could it's like 262 pages it's not some fucking you know blog pamphlet

01:35:40.980 but it uses the word larp live action role playing and it uses it in the internet sort of way and

01:35:46.740 anytime there's a book that uses the word larp i take it less seriously maybe that's unfair

01:35:53.440 of course no no that's very reasonable but uh essentially it's it's tackling the issue

01:36:01.680 that we've talked about just on this episode as well which is that a lot of the world events that

01:36:10.020 we see a lot of the conflicts are not being done necessarily by state actors but more often groups

01:36:15.800 that seem to span across multiple states and this is like we talked about the clash of civilizations

01:36:20.900 and the remaking of the world order,

01:36:22.760 how it's not so much Western countries,

01:36:24.660 but the West in aggregate.

01:36:26.940 And what we're seeing is sort of the formation

01:36:29.000 of the East in aggregates

01:36:30.600 with the BRICS nations forming.

01:36:33.400 And that we're trying to see

01:36:34.320 which civilizational connections exist,

01:36:36.700 not just state borders or nation states.

01:36:40.000 It could come to pass that the nation state as we know it

01:36:43.260 is a very 20th century idea.

01:36:45.180 Maybe with the proliferation of technology,

01:36:48.280 we're allowed to form stronger bonds over wider areas of terrain and something like political

01:36:54.920 islam can exist as a decentralized but homogenous network that spans not only the middle east

01:37:03.040 but also into europe as well that's a pan-state phenomenon in the same way the west can do that

01:37:10.760 as well and the same way china can do that as well like we're seeing the states be more of like a

01:37:17.300 guide and not like a hard and fast borders anymore the thing is that i'm downloading one of about

01:37:25.860 i don't know how many 10 15 different things that turn constants into variables one of them is

01:37:32.420 the nation that we we take for granted the single group of people is breaking up into

01:37:37.620 multiple nations that are defined by networks another is the currency is breaking up okay

01:37:42.740 a third is the geography is changing a fourth is the moral principles that underpin society are

01:37:49.540 changing and so when like all of those things are in flux you kind of need something to catch it on

01:37:55.700 the other side because otherwise what people will do is they will sort of try to assert that old

01:38:01.860 thing that just doesn't exist anymore and that'll be like something that does not acknowledge the

01:38:07.780 reality of the situation it's like opening the you know closing the barn door and then expecting

01:38:12.100 can get all the horses back inside when there were forces that were more powerful than that

01:38:18.240 thing that that spread them all out that those entropic forces you have to kind of go to where

01:38:22.940 those horses are and loop them up and maybe have new ranches or whatever there to to extend the

01:38:28.280 metaphor he proposes the network society is there a society an actual society a society that can be

01:38:36.220 taken seriously that exists with beyond the states beyond the traditional states can you start a

01:38:42.900 society online on the internet and have all of the benefits of a real state government society right

01:38:51.120 and he lays out the schematic for this and uh i'll kind of give you the headlines here and then i'll

01:38:58.280 go into the specific components because he's very very clear about what this is that's what i

01:39:02.540 appreciate about this book it's very technical so you want to know how to do it here's the five

01:39:07.780 steps and here's why it's not easy not anyone can do it but i think this ties most directly

01:39:16.340 into the last episode in the last clip we had which was with the square and the tower which

01:39:21.940 is all about the importance of secret societies and intellectual movements and clandestine

01:39:28.120 shadowy groups throughout human history in causing revolutions, causing intellectual

01:39:33.360 movements, the Protestant Reformation, the Renaissance, any revolution you've heard of,

01:39:38.900 right? And so, but how did these sort of decentralized affiliations work? How did the

01:39:45.220 American Revolution work? It was almost like an affiliation network. And that's what's

01:39:49.520 interesting about America. And America is almost an example of how this affiliation network

01:39:52.820 literally became a country. But now it's like, well, how do you do that in the 21st century

01:39:57.720 where there's nukes and everyone's watching you know where there is no land really you can't just

01:40:05.500 go somewhere and set up shop so all right so here's how he defines it a network state is a

01:40:11.980 highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowd funds territory

01:40:18.760 around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states that's like

01:40:25.940 the one sentence description of what it is.

01:40:28.680 And he kind of unfolds that throughout the book.

01:40:31.940 He says,

01:40:32.720 a network state is ideologically aligned,

01:40:35.780 but geographically decentralized,

01:40:38.420 right?

01:40:38.980 Which is the phenomenon we start to see now with another example,

01:40:42.640 like the Palestinian move,

01:40:43.720 like the Palestinian fight against Israel is calling to its,

01:40:50.160 its support,

01:40:50.860 all of the Islamic territories around it in one form or another. And it didn't even really need

01:40:57.420 to ask it. It just kind of happened. It was assumed that would happen, right? That's a

01:41:02.700 miraculous thing. And that's something, interestingly, that the West is increasingly

01:41:07.280 unable to do. Insofar as the network state is sort of like, it's a toolbox where you don't

01:41:15.820 have to agree with my problem statement or my solution statement. My problem statement is,

01:41:20.420 I think we're vectoring towards what I call American anarchy and Chinese control.

01:41:24.300 My solution statement is, I think that rather than just centralization versus decentralization,

01:41:32.000 I think we are going to need to see re-centralization on the other side,

01:41:35.740 not in the coercive sense of top-down control, but consensual re-grouping around hubs. Just like

01:41:44.180 when people exit a burning building when it's on fire, what do they do? There's an assembly point.

01:41:49.420 right they re-centralize and even if the building is being burned down they're going to build

01:41:53.800 something else together again right that is different than scattering to the four winds

01:41:57.860 everybody running for their life and never seeing each other right there was value in having that

01:42:01.500 group together but if that building's on fire you decentralize then you re-centralize and so my

01:42:07.340 proposed solution is if these existing central points especially the u.s establishment in china

01:42:12.640 are getting much worse and we have this decentralizing technology then we can build

01:42:18.360 new societies and eventually new states and that was uh outlined in peter zyhan's book disunited

01:42:25.440 nations that the real breakdown of the west might have very well come when america tried to bring

01:42:30.720 everyone all of its allies into the middle east and very few of them wanted to go down that road

01:42:36.460 with them you know and it showed that you know it didn't have the alignments in the west that it

01:42:42.380 thought it had that was a big deal so a network state is a social network with a moral innovation

01:42:51.020 a sense of national consciousness a recognized founder a capacity for collective action an

01:42:58.460 in-person level of civility an integrated cryptocurrency cryptocurrency factors into

01:43:04.060 this quite a bit a consensual government limited by a social smart contract an archipelago of

01:43:10.820 crowdfunded physical territories a virtual capital and an on-chain census that proves

01:43:17.620 a large enough population income and real estate to attain a measure of diplomatic recognition

01:43:23.220 so i'll unpack that in a second but what you'll notice is in this design the blockchain is very

01:43:29.860 very important to this and um it's from a very libertarian minded sort of guy and i don't mean

01:43:36.100 that in a pejorative sense it's this is something you've heard a lot of libertarian circles talk

01:43:40.660 about and maybe maybe some of this will sound familiar to you judas because i know you used to

01:43:44.820 travel in these circles but you know instead of a constitution we have a smart contract we have this

01:43:49.940 sort of this it's not an ai but it's like a a blockchain government to help prevent tyranny

01:43:58.340 and try and enshrine this populism does this sound familiar at all to you yeah yeah pretty much it's

01:44:03.540 a lot of a lot of ancap stuff runs on this model i think that this has been attempted i think there

01:44:08.260 There are kind of experimental communities around today

01:44:13.220 which use something like this model.

01:44:15.800 Yeah, they would probably be what he would describe as network unions

01:44:19.240 because a network union is kind of this network of people

01:44:21.880 who create a parallel society.

01:44:24.460 We're always talking about parallel societies.

01:44:26.680 That's what that is.

01:44:27.160 But then the transition comes when you go from a network union

01:44:30.880 to a network archipelago.

01:44:33.320 A network archipelago is you and your network get together

01:44:35.640 and just buy some fucking land.

01:44:36.920 actually put in you own territory and you own buildings and things and now it's real

01:44:43.560 and it doesn't need to be one huge block of land it could be several properties scattered throughout

01:44:50.400 but in aggregate it represents one holistic territory which again to bring it back to

01:44:56.680 israel palestine the palestinians in the region are actually kind of spread out

01:45:01.360 in different sections around that region right but they operate as one unit so you you could

01:45:07.780 have a descent it doesn't need to be one boxed in area is what he's saying and then from there

01:45:13.340 you become a network state after the network archipelago become a network state after you say

01:45:17.400 we've got this land we're taken seriously you start trying to get recognition from other states

01:45:24.480 because that's really the end goal of the network state is to take you're from like an online

01:45:28.700 community to something that's taken seriously by the un and what the book shows is like that's

01:45:37.180 actually not that difficult to do um he had said he's like you know what like if you get

01:45:42.560 a community of like a million people he's like that's around the size of most city states like

01:45:50.160 most countries in the world aren't that big it's like to have a seat at the table on the global

01:45:54.860 stage not like at the level of china or the u.s but he's like you know all that like all that

01:46:00.860 matters we we looked at this when we discussed um neorealism that really power is how much power

01:46:07.700 people think you have power is just your ability to maintain your own sovereignty so in a sense

01:46:14.760 like you being a state all you need to do is convince other states to believe you're a state

01:46:19.440 and that's what's going on that's what happens in north korea that's what's going on in palestine

01:46:23.940 you know they're using it through military arms but you there's other cases of this like even in

01:46:29.380 like canada with the aboriginals like all you need to do to become an actual state is plead a case

01:46:35.920 in a convincing way and have it accepted by other states so how can you do that this book explores

01:46:41.620 that so he says like a big part of having an online um a network state probably the most

01:46:50.540 important because it keeps coming back to this is having a blockchain census um he says as the

01:46:56.940 society scales you have to run a cryptographically cryptographically audible census to demonstrate

01:47:03.440 the growing size of your population income and real estate footprints the key idea is to populate

01:47:09.520 land from the cloud and to do so all over the earth um and you do this effectively through

01:47:16.000 crowdfunding and like you said this is very much an ancap thing you're like what's the ancap thing

01:47:19.960 Well, you would gather voluntary taxes and just buy real estate and effectively everyone owns it.

01:47:26.700 How you sort that out would be sorted out on the blockchain, according to him.

01:47:30.400 You could actually assign ownership on the blockchain.

01:47:36.260 I tend to be skeptical of people who kind of just wave the blockchain around as a solution to every problem.

01:47:43.360 It's like, well, how do you sell this?

01:47:44.060 Well, the blockchain will keep a record of it.

01:47:46.140 You know, there's one example he gives in the book about how the blockchain can solve the problem, I'm paraphrasing here, but how the blockchain can solve the problem of like blurry history that, you know, throughout time, we've had a hard, difficult time accurately keeping track of events.

01:48:05.760 but with the blockchain we could actually record events more accurately and you know which is true

01:48:11.100 but my position is that we've never had a problem of recording events that happen events just like

01:48:19.640 wars and transactions they've been recorded pretty accurately throughout time what we disagree on is

01:48:25.620 intense what we disagree on is motivations and the the machinations behind the scenes but like

01:48:31.180 if it's just like here's a war and this many people died or this country was founded then

01:48:36.160 or this transaction occurred like we've done that with fucking parchment and papyrus since

01:48:41.080 time immemorial so it's not like the blockchain isn't even solving the problem of historical

01:48:46.400 accuracy because even with events recorded there's still all this other yeah smeared shit that that's

01:48:53.360 the stuff that we argue about you know like no one really argues where jesus christ existed right

01:48:59.660 and kids and again like they recorded in the bible the stuff that jesus christ

01:49:04.160 was supposed to have done and people still disagree on that so like if that was on the

01:49:08.380 blockchain there wouldn't be less disagreement about it right um he's there's a line here that

01:49:15.760 i really liked is america's religious colonies succeeded at a higher rate than its for-profit

01:49:21.320 colonies that's interesting because the former had a purpose um you're arguing when you start

01:49:27.260 these colonies that the culture of your startup society he uses the word startup society a lot

01:49:31.640 is better than the surrounding culture implicitly that means there's some moral deficit in the

01:49:37.500 world that you're fixing history comes into play because you need to write a study of that moral

01:49:43.520 deficit and draw from the past to find alternative social arrangements where that moral deficit

01:49:48.920 didn't occur he has this line in the book that was interesting he had said that you know the

01:49:54.100 the politicians or the dissidents of today,

01:49:57.640 they need to have an understanding of history just so they can wield it for

01:50:02.820 their interests. And he said,

01:50:03.840 a lot of politicians in the past didn't have the command of history,

01:50:06.800 but you actually need, you need history to tell your story.

01:50:10.180 It's only in service of telling your story because like you said,

01:50:13.680 for a group to be effective and talk about this,

01:50:16.780 I've been on the Vanguard's journal. It's like whenever,

01:50:19.340 or we talked about even with the true state, we discussed that book,

01:50:22.980 the true state which says that anytime you join a group you are in effect othering everyone is not

01:50:28.760 in that group even if they're in the same society even if even your family even your clan in some

01:50:34.360 sense you are saying that i am apart from them and this is better than not being in here and

01:50:40.480 there's just like concentric circles of othering of othering that goes on it says you know to start

01:50:45.120 a colony even if you don't intend to the strength of the colony is built on your strength to other

01:50:52.580 everything else that's around it and that you don't need to be that explicit about it but that

01:50:57.920 that does happen just like the religious colonies like tended to succeed more than the for-profit

01:51:04.160 business capital oriented colonies in america and he's got this one uh concept here which i've

01:51:12.180 mentioned before and i'm not sure everyone likes it i've had people pick it apart but i still kind

01:51:18.440 of like it i feel like there's something there um he talks about how to to start with this network

01:51:25.040 you start small right you don't start with a massive network just like uh you know he gives

01:51:30.420 the example of like facebook or something you don't want a startup starts a social network you

01:51:34.400 start with a big infrastructure and then you filled with people that what you need to do is

01:51:38.640 do the opposite you start with a few people and grow uh an entire apparatus around it and he said

01:51:45.480 I'm going to try and summarize this

01:51:47.140 as best as I can

01:51:48.480 instead where people go wrong

01:51:51.340 is they start thinking okay we need

01:51:53.140 10 commandments we need a list of rules

01:51:55.560 that unite all of us

01:51:57.200 and he said you know the more

01:51:59.120 rules you have to unite you

01:52:01.020 the less likely you are to be

01:52:03.280 that cohesive and that unified

01:52:05.300 he's like what you actually need

01:52:07.060 is one commandment

01:52:08.660 just one thing

01:52:11.160 that unites everyone in that group

01:52:12.920 but it needs to be and the simpler

01:52:14.880 it is the better and the way he describes it sounds kind of silly but but i don't know i just

01:52:21.240 like it a lot and i want to hear what you think about it because he said the one commandment

01:52:25.980 would be um for example let's say you were trying to start uh like a a christian movement it would

01:52:33.820 just be christian christianity good right or if you're starting like a a group you know a fitness

01:52:42.080 group it's carbs bad something good something bad that's as simple as it needs to be and that that

01:52:49.320 could actually unify people a lot more so i started thinking about it like you know on on our side it

01:52:55.660 doesn't need to be the entire network like for example the dissident right or on the other side

01:53:00.980 the progressives they don't need to be seen as one network look at the dissident right and look at all

01:53:06.320 the other smaller networks in it there are smaller networks there's you know the traditional

01:53:11.600 catholics there's like the bronze age pervert sphere that would be like the vitalist guys

01:53:17.520 then over here there's just the nazis then over here there's you know there's a multitude

01:53:22.860 of networks of various sizes um and so you know for example the nazis like like the guys from

01:53:30.660 the njp or the rice up top is they are a clear example of their thing is just jews bad

01:53:37.300 and they'll probably admit to that yeah everything is just jews bad if you think jews are bad

01:53:42.380 you can be part of it to the extent that nothing else seems to matter there yeah yeah exactly

01:53:47.980 and then you know other the track cast would be like catholicism good as long as you believe in

01:53:53.320 that that's good white nationalism would be white people good you know white nationalism

01:53:58.340 they have the 14 words 1488 you know what are the 14 words we must i should know the secure

01:54:06.500 the existence for our people and a future for white children and then 88 is heil hitler that's

01:54:12.280 a lot of words you know what it also means white people good that actually cuts through honestly

01:54:18.760 you know some people might you know scoff at me giving notes to that side so explicitly but i'm

01:54:24.300 Like, honestly, because I've seen guys or some people, it's like they believe in the 14, but not the 88.

01:54:29.120 Or some people believe in the 88, but not the 40.

01:54:30.840 And I'm like, you know what?

01:54:31.760 You know what all you guys have in common?

01:54:33.500 White people good.

01:54:34.700 Yeah.

01:54:35.000 That's it.

01:54:35.580 Right?

01:54:35.780 As long as you believe that, that seems to cover that.

01:54:39.580 That's a more coherent umbrella.

01:54:41.380 So I've just started playing that game.

01:54:44.080 I'm like looking at these networks or thinking of a network that whether it's in stark opposition to something or just in stark favor of something.

01:54:52.900 because you can build a city on the hill with one commandment you know i mean it doesn't need

01:54:58.300 to be this complicated scheme and i started thinking like what would that be for for our

01:55:02.700 group you know because some people it's just technology bad you know for you know anarchists

01:55:07.720 government state bad you know it seems the ones with the most coherence are the ones with that

01:55:12.400 one commandment so i think that's just a fun thought experiment for people to run like

01:55:17.040 and then once you have enough of those separate networks then you can start

01:55:21.920 creating a network of networks and seeing which networks actually pair together and that's what

01:55:27.000 we were talking about with the square the circle square in the tower which is that successful

01:55:31.300 revolutions are done by taking these disparate networks and finding super nodes between them

01:55:38.060 that can kind of coordinate them to a common action but it's never generated from within

01:55:43.520 the networks themselves the networks just have one goal to try and like be a sort of community

01:55:48.440 state thing and then almost through some other force or phenomena they can gather towards

01:55:56.000 a shared target a shared other and that's what a revolution is and that's why these things tend

01:56:01.300 to fall apart after the revolution succeeds um and he's got a line in here that i think

01:56:07.620 summarizes his position from a technological point of view he says uh god is dead and replaced

01:56:13.740 by the state now the state is dead and that god used to be the most powerful force on earth that

01:56:19.940 controlled people's actions that was responsible for their fears that was responsible for what

01:56:24.540 they think is good and god you know we're not going to get into that but god is dead replaced

01:56:28.180 by the state the state defines what you're afraid of that you feel like the state is watching you

01:56:32.060 feel like the state is the moral arbiter in your life a lot of people feel this very viscerally

01:56:36.300 but people also feel like the state is dead the state is in crisis no one really trusts the

01:56:40.740 government so he says what is the most powerful force in the world now now he says encryption

01:56:46.020 he says the network is the next leviathan a quote leviathan in the sense of thomas hobbes

01:56:53.120 as the next great beast that can represent you know the human this human spirit in that sense

01:57:00.740 i think there's something to that and it will use encryption and this is where the technology

01:57:05.000 comes in where i think as well you know we can harness the blockchain to almost have a new type

01:57:09.640 of society a new type of government now i'm sure he will say that this will eventually consign

01:57:17.060 states as we know them to the dustbin of history i don't think that's going to happen but

01:57:21.660 what i like about the book is it's actually it's presenting a practical model for dissident

01:57:27.240 movements of any political stripe really to start to figure out what okay what's the next step what

01:57:33.080 do you what what what do you move towards like we have a group we have a we believe in something

01:57:38.800 Maybe we believe all in the same thing.

01:57:41.040 What now?

01:57:43.140 Why would you want re-centralization?

01:57:45.420 We're talking about taking power away

01:57:47.020 from these totally illegitimate establishments with Bitcoin.

01:57:50.580 We're talking about breaking the state

01:57:51.760 and defunding the government and so on.

01:57:53.340 We're giving them defunding the police.

01:57:54.700 We're defunding everything, right?

01:57:56.380 And we're talking about breaking these tyrannies

01:57:59.320 and getting away from the surveillance state.

01:58:00.820 Why would you ever want to rebuild something like that,

01:58:02.740 right?

01:58:03.580 So the thing is that re-centralization

01:58:06.400 has the smallest constituency right now, but I think it's the right constituency. And the reason

01:58:10.940 is, I believe, one of the things I've pointed out in the book is the helical theory of history.

01:58:15.820 So the linear theory of history is we're just progressing. We're just improving. We're getting

01:58:20.200 more equal. We're leveling up. Everything's getting better, and so on and so forth. There's

01:58:24.240 something to be said for this. On some axes, on some measures, humans have been improving. Like

01:58:27.960 our knowledge of math, for example, that is like a roughly cumulative chart. It has drops when you

01:58:33.460 have the dark ages and stuff like that it's not all the way up to it but it's like up into the

01:58:36.880 right okay then you have the cyclical theory of history which is and actually one of the things

01:58:43.300 i talked about in the book is about the left and a right and a libertarian cycle of history

01:58:46.560 but the right cycle of history is strong men create good times good times create weak men

01:58:52.540 weak men create hard times hard times create strong men where it's basically like you know

01:58:56.340 this is the foreturning right yeah yeah so it's nietzsche and band of spartans they go and build

01:59:00.400 a great society. And then these degenerates take it down. And then, you know, we have to like from

01:59:05.360 the chaos and ashes rebuild again and so on. Right. What's funny is the left has their own

01:59:09.900 version of this, which is the zealous revolutionaries managed to fight the man and overthrow

01:59:16.260 it. And then a Stalin like figure comes and compromises the revolution. And the new boss

01:59:22.700 is the same as the old boss. And and then it comes back to this. Right. And then the tech

01:59:27.540 Libertarian has a version that's also like this, which is the startup founder goes and rebels

01:59:32.220 against the bureaucracy. They managed to build an operational thing that is actually much more

01:59:38.020 egalitarian and it's got a flatter hierarchy and takes care of all the bureaucracy and it's

01:59:42.440 actually more competitive. And then what happens is the bureaucracy encrusts this and the Libertarian

01:59:46.420 founder rebuilds the state. And one of the points I make is all three of those cycles are the same

01:59:51.780 cycle because it's not just the right cycle of being like strong and it's not just the left

01:59:58.020 cycle of being zealous and it's not just the libertarian cycle of having an innovation you

02:00:02.300 kind of need all of those at the same time to actually go all the way around the cycle to fight

02:00:06.340 that establishment he's got this line here he says if the startup founders of the 2000s and 2010s had

02:00:13.740 to level up beyond technology to learn business which is kind of like the startup auteur was

02:00:20.340 then the startup society founders of the 2020s need to add history and politics to their curriculum

02:00:25.960 he says because a theory of the left and right is necessary for nation formation you can't just

02:00:32.900 start a nation without understanding the necessity of the left and the right now what does he mean

02:00:36.400 by that and he describes in the book and i've heard this described elsewhere too um i was

02:00:42.780 talking to john tally about this the other day yeah a lot of people have remarked that

02:00:46.360 you know you know america's got a two-party system the left and the right isn't that stupid

02:00:51.380 you know we've said that in canada and in canada and britain and elsewhere we think our parliamentary

02:00:57.940 system is more enlightened because we have more parties when in reality all those parties seem to

02:01:04.260 fall upon the left right axis you know in canada we have we still have left and right it's just

02:01:09.740 some are more far far more left than others it seems that those two the two hemispheres of left

02:01:15.960 and right seem to manifest no matter the political system and what does that mean so we define the

02:01:24.480 left as almost the revolutionary side and the right as the conservative side and these two

02:01:30.700 polls always exist but they tend to be filled with different ideologies at a given time

02:01:35.240 but it seems that across time there's always a conservative side on law and order and stasis

02:01:42.180 and tradition there's always the revolutionary side and sometimes that wins and sometimes the

02:01:48.200 revolution occurs but then they become the conservative side and then almost by necessity

02:01:54.260 it creates its own shadow it creates its own revolution to the revolution you know that

02:01:59.820 interestingly enough that's what that's where you get napoleon after the french revolution that's

02:02:04.200 it the shadow of the french revolution was napoleon and you see that and it's always there

02:02:10.020 It's always just and I think there's almost like a natural law component to this that you can't even say is based on ideology.

02:02:17.660 It's just any left and right, good, evil, black ways, just nature seems even though it seems manmade, it's more evident that nature seems to bifurcate.

02:02:31.060 And I don't know what to do with that information.

02:02:32.760 it's just he mentions it and he mentions that if you want to start a state you need to recognize

02:02:38.000 that the left-right dichotomy isn't something you can innovate your way out of it had that's

02:02:43.840 what a lot of tech guys think we're going to get rid of this two-party system no no no that's why

02:02:47.800 you need to understand history and politics because if you understood history and politics

02:02:50.920 you realize that the left-right dichotomy is essential to any state even if it's a new

02:02:56.780 network state but you got to figure out what you're going to do about that even fascism tried

02:03:01.600 to like think its way out of that hey do you remember we talked very briefly about the the

02:03:07.020 book series the three body problem and this is not related to the book but we're just describing what

02:03:11.900 the three body problem is it's essentially if you have two bodies orbiting each other in space you

02:03:16.500 can predict how they will interact with each other they have a one-to-one reaction if you had a third

02:03:21.300 body you you essentially can't calculate it it's not something that you can work on what you can

02:03:25.900 do is you take the first two you calculate them use them as a unit now you've synthesized that

02:03:31.420 you use that as unit c and then you can compare that to the other one but you're always ever only

02:03:35.880 ever working with two units and it's kind of the same thing like you have if you had three parties

02:03:41.320 what's going to happen is one of them will become subsumed with another and you're back to two

02:03:45.700 parties like it's always going to wind up being one versus another exactly and and i think that

02:03:51.400 an idea that kind of plagues our side even still it's like when will we get out of this

02:03:55.360 old way of thinking i'm like no i think it's just it's nature it's the universe it's god it's

02:04:00.380 whatever you want to call it.

02:04:01.800 And I think there's a lot of wisdom in the fact that it's the yin and the yang.

02:04:05.800 It's like there's something there that I don't think you can innovate your way out of.

02:04:10.700 And he decides, he says,

02:04:11.620 revolutionary tactics eventually succeed in gaining power for one tribe

02:04:16.060 and ruling class tactics eventually fail to defend power from another tribe.

02:04:20.440 So the left and the right gradually switch over historical time scales,

02:04:25.460 even as the tribal names remain the same.

02:04:27.860 so and he says that another way to look at it is like the left mentality is more for like action

02:04:35.760 and innovation and the right is more for administration and you kind of need both

02:04:39.300 and what they're always trying to destroy each other and this sounds like a middle of the road

02:04:44.440 centrist take here's centrist dies but really like if you want to look at it from a hegelian

02:04:49.500 point of view like that that's the tension of society between both of these poles is what

02:04:55.340 society is. Society is the tension between these two opposing forces, and society exists in that

02:05:02.500 perfect stasis as long as they are kept in balance. You know, the revolutionary, and we talked about

02:05:09.060 that with the true state just a couple episodes ago, you know, the conflict between universalism

02:05:14.280 and individualism, where individualism is too revolutionary, too selfish, too crazy and chaotic,

02:05:19.080 but you need that chaos because the universalist society is is too state it's too static you know

02:05:26.260 it's too it's too it's it's ruins forever you know it doesn't evolve it doesn't innovate

02:05:31.380 so you can't have that and a lot of people on the right the traditionalists be like well you know

02:05:36.580 we can just return to that perfect stasis we can never have a perfect stasis that doesn't make any

02:05:42.180 sense so it's trying to reconcile those two things i like this book is is factoring that in

02:05:48.900 he kind of summarizes it here he says putting it all together we propose that a left and right

02:05:56.460 are quantifiable phenomena we can see via the spatial theory of voting b the left right axis

02:06:03.500 is real but rotates with time c they're ancient and ineradical concepts arguably on par with yin

02:06:10.760 and yang or magnetic north and south d their complementary tactics to gain access to scarce

02:06:16.680 resources e if one group uses a left tactic the other is almost forced to adopt a right tactic

02:06:23.520 in response and vice versa f the frontier reduces political left-right issues because it reduces

02:06:30.360 conflict over scarce resources so he was also talking about the idea of the frontier how the

02:06:36.000 frontier is essential um and and once he says that like that the left-right dichotomy tends to

02:06:41.800 maximize when you're you know experiencing scarce resources and you're in a confined space but if

02:06:48.120 there's always a frontier to expand out into it tends to mediate a lot of these conflicts which

02:06:53.260 it seemed to do in the past um g we can think of left as revolutionary tactics and right as

02:07:00.400 ruling class tactics and h the tactics constantly swap hosts over historical time frames um he

02:07:09.540 actually gives an example of a network society just to give people just something to go off of

02:07:15.440 on a smaller scale um he calls it the cancel proof society um and he says one solution is just a

02:07:22.800 network union that provides a combination of a a guild and b cancellation insurance he says you

02:07:29.260 assemble a group of people in a discord all right you're already not liking it but okay optionally

02:07:35.380 take a stake together by using a dao token like a there's the blockchain stuff comes in and work

02:07:42.040 together to promote each other's work and help each other out the token of the dao would be

02:07:47.160 optional it wouldn't be meant to be some massive new thing like ethereum it's just a way to record

02:07:53.140 who contributed time and or money to the startup society and how much they did the concept is that

02:07:59.880 this kind of startup society serves a dual purpose it's useful in peacetime but also gives people

02:08:05.660 a community fall back on in the event of digital cancelization which is funny he said this because

02:08:11.140 this is something that we were talking about months ago like i was just i was phrasing it in

02:08:17.000 a much more reductive way but it was like what if we use like a blockchain on our side of things in

02:08:23.320 the dissonant right whatever you want to call it to so people like a block because you know

02:08:29.020 blockchain works you can just track transactions so if you had your wallet would be your online

02:08:33.800 identity your nom de plume uh whatever screen name you want you don't need to use your real name

02:08:38.640 but it would be a permanent wallet and record of what how much work you put in to the distant right

02:08:45.320 now what could that be well that could be you went to a protest that could be you did a podcast that

02:08:50.400 could be you helped someone out with a project you put some work you did something maybe you yeah

02:08:56.440 you opened up your house to have someone who's traveling stay with you while they're doing a show

02:09:01.300 somewhere you you so even if you're not a big famous influencer you're still that sort of

02:09:07.200 super node who maybe has been putting work in for years and helping people out and connecting people

02:09:12.820 now you have a measurable like like wallet about all the work you put in that acts as your rep

02:09:21.620 that acts as your vetting your someone and that means like you're someone who should be reckoned

02:09:26.620 with in a way that's not like it's not notoriety it's not you looking for clout and so that's

02:09:35.080 something i thought like hey can we get that together for because there's a lot of guys in

02:09:37.640 our scene who help out who do a lot of work and they they you know they don't want to be famous

02:09:42.380 but it'd be nice with some kind of recognition if someone's out there doing like free production work

02:09:48.120 or free, you know, thumbnails for images.

02:09:51.400 Think of a thing.

02:09:52.280 Think of a thing you could do.

02:09:53.960 So I like this because it stole my idea

02:09:56.640 that I didn't tell anyone about

02:09:58.220 except like you and a couple of others.

02:10:01.920 And he mentions that the group of people

02:10:04.260 who would be most attracted to this,

02:10:05.720 and I'm not sure I agree with this,

02:10:07.200 but I want to mention it anyway.

02:10:09.040 It's called the International Intermediate.

02:10:11.840 The International Intermediate,

02:10:13.640 it's a, they're just the people

02:10:14.860 who don't want their societies

02:10:16.340 to descend into what he calls American anarchy,

02:10:19.840 but also want a better option than Chinese control.

02:10:23.460 He said that's, funny enough, he says that's India and Israel,

02:10:27.000 but also American centrists, Chinese liberals, global technologists,

02:10:30.580 and people from other places that want to steer a different course

02:10:33.320 from the U.S. establishment.

02:10:35.900 Here's my tea sun, like globalization, deglobalization, et cetera.

02:10:40.160 First is I think globalization continues online,

02:10:43.740 offline, but it goes in reverse offline. So you have like physical nationalism, but you have

02:10:49.620 digital globalization. And that's actually the tension of this century. It is the cloud versus

02:10:55.180 the land. You have this global community of remote working, because on the one hand, you've got all

02:11:02.240 these trends pushing towards total internationalism, right? You have cryptocurrency, you have remote

02:11:06.240 work, you have Starlink, you have this massive global community of startup entrepreneurs and

02:11:11.260 folks who are more connected than they've ever been, you know, you have encryption, which is cross borders. You have, you know, you have all of those things. You have the metaverse coming. You have billions of people with smartphones. You have transnational companies. All of those are huge pushes on the digital side for continued globalization and accelerated, in fact, in some ways. On the other hand, you have the land pushing against that, where various countries, various politicians want to retain their control over

02:11:41.240 their jurisdiction they want to use the state against the network right and so it's actually

02:11:46.600 more complicated than simply de-globalization this is a political axis of um you know state

02:11:53.720 versus network it's kind of describing how the average person experiences having like

02:12:00.040 multiple identities online he says if you take a sample of biological fluid from your body

02:12:05.800 and you centrifuge it you'll see a bunch of layers that were previously mixed together that's what

02:12:10.200 what a centrifuge does they all get separated out he says that's what the internet is doing to

02:12:15.860 society and institutions it unbundles everything and reduces people to like a collection of

02:12:22.120 identities and maximizes those identities you've seen that even with like political affiliations

02:12:27.120 and fetishes and everything it says then comes the re-bundling that's kind of where we're at

02:12:32.020 right now we've unbundled all our stuff that's re-bundling it he says that's where songs get

02:12:37.340 grouped into playlists i liked that metaphor you know we destroyed the album but we've allowed

02:12:42.040 people to create these really distinct playlists from the component parts the the articles grouped

02:12:47.040 into twitter feeds he says um that's kind of the way he's looking at how we can like reshuffle

02:12:53.200 these identities that still matter but kind of reconfigure them in new ways and that the internet

02:12:59.580 would allow us to do that in ways that we couldn't before if we were just tied to geographic area

02:13:04.580 that could be good or that could be bad but that is the reality um and i'm just going to end on

02:13:10.820 this i'm going to go through this list because i think this is a good way to end on it really

02:13:14.980 summarizes it very non-confusedly in case i haven't been clear so he says what do you need

02:13:22.180 to be a network state here's the list of what you need full on first of all you need a social network

02:13:28.780 The people of a network state form their nation online.

02:13:32.720 Social rather than geographic proximity is the core organizing principle.

02:13:37.880 Admission to the social network is selective.

02:13:40.720 People can lose their account privileges for bad behavior, just like any online community.

02:13:45.280 And he said he made a comment earlier that the network state is constant plebiscite.

02:13:49.460 Like you're always trying to like monitor who is inside of it based on affiliation.

02:13:55.520 The next is you need a moral innovation.

02:13:58.020 A network state grows out of a startup society that is premised on a moral innovation where everyone within that society thinks some principle, whatever the principle is, principle X, is good and that the rest of the world thinks it's bad or vice versa.

02:14:13.560 This is the proposition part of a propositional nation.

02:14:17.640 It's up to your community, your network state to figure out what that is.

02:14:21.440 A sense of national consciousness is the next part.

02:14:24.520 Everyone in a network state feels that they're part of the same community,

02:14:28.320 sharing the same values and culture.

02:14:31.580 And this is why he also says that there should be certain behaviors that are tolerated.

02:14:36.000 Some of this, you know, will occur over time.

02:14:39.380 You'll notice that in a lot of networks, even in the distant right or on the left or anywhere,

02:14:44.120 once you're in these networks, you'll notice that certain behaviors,

02:14:46.920 they're not outright stated that they're intolerable.

02:14:49.900 It's just you notice people use certain words or they're more polite than other places.

02:14:55.520 And that part's very important, having a distinct social character.

02:15:01.260 And how does that happen?

02:15:02.340 Well, the next part is you need a recognized founder.

02:15:06.600 A state, like a company, needs a leader, especially early on.

02:15:10.500 But a truly strong leadership comes from consent and buy-in, not propaganda or force.

02:15:15.380 Hence, it's important that you have a recognized founder, one that people actually listen to and choose to follow by joining the community.

02:15:23.260 And this could also be the person who sets the tone for behavior.

02:15:26.920 And you'll just notice this if you're part of these communities that exist now.

02:15:30.660 You'll notice that they tend to group around one person who sets the at least conversational tone.

02:15:36.780 So imagine that, but amplify it.

02:15:39.160 The next thing is you need a capacity for collective action.

02:15:42.300 This is tightly related to the concept of national consciousness.

02:15:46.220 The Puritans wanted to build a city on the hill.

02:15:48.820 The Japanese, after the Meiji Restoration, replaced their previous mission statement of revere the emperor, expel the barbarians with enrich the country, strengthen the military, turning their society around 180 degrees.

02:16:01.920 The next thing is you need an in-person level of civility.

02:16:04.600 That's kind of what I just mentioned.

02:16:05.740 whether one is coming from the left or right pulling together in a high trust society means

02:16:11.240 in-person levels of civility that's very important that's something i think we kind of struggle with

02:16:16.420 on the right because we like having fights we like being rude we like being shitty to each other

02:16:21.500 i'm as guilty of this as anyone you know that's one aspect of a community that i don't think we've

02:16:27.400 really mastered which is if not you know elizabethan england levels of civility but some kind of

02:16:34.580 civility to each other where we're not just shit posting right the next thing is an integrated

02:16:40.520 cryptocurrency he says this is the digital backbone of the network state it manages the

02:16:46.500 internal digital assets the smart contracts the web 3 citizen logins the birth and marriage

02:16:51.920 certificates the property registries everything it replaces all the other bureaucratic paper

02:16:58.280 the next thing is an archipelago of crowdfunded physical territories we discussed this

02:17:04.120 this is the physical footprint of the network state rather than buying territory in one place

02:17:09.060 or trying to negotiate sovereignty up front you build the community in the cloud and then

02:17:14.220 crowdfund physical real estate on earth um he says a consensual government is next limited by

02:17:20.960 smart social contract in practice we say that a user has consented to be governed by a startup

02:17:26.760 society um that's and he also has some stuff in here which i'm sure people wouldn't agree with

02:17:34.840 um basically it's that to do something like this you are granting total power to the network state

02:17:41.480 as well you know i mean like within the network state there is there almost seems to be no form

02:17:47.820 of anarchy because at least in a state you know i see it as we know it you could have breakaway

02:17:52.760 parallel societies you know you could have dark corners we get your own thing going it's it's

02:17:57.940 assumed that in a network state everything is transparent everything is tractable as a citizen

02:18:03.180 you almost give full power to the network state itself so if you are an anarchist minded person

02:18:11.360 or a libertarian minded person you can talk about consents and you know transparency all you want but

02:18:17.400 there is something to be said that within this state there is no dissidence you know what i mean

02:18:22.480 yeah you cannot have a dissonant movement within the network state so i don't know that's

02:18:26.540 something to consider um you need to have a virtual capital kind of he says you should

02:18:34.000 have a capital city based in vr that sounds kind of gay i don't want to do that very gay

02:18:38.960 yeah the next thing is an on-chain census that proves a large enough population income in real

02:18:44.820 estate um and a met and then you use that to attain a measure of diplomatic recognition

02:18:51.260 Diplomatic recognition requires a punitive state to have clout,

02:18:56.960 and clout in turn established by a publicly verifiable on-chain census.

02:19:01.800 So that, I'll leave it right there.

02:19:04.340 That is essentially what the network state is.

02:19:06.740 That is how it functions.

02:19:07.820 That is how you build one step by step.

02:19:10.140 There's more granular steps we can get into,

02:19:12.980 but it shows how you go from just the community to the archipelago

02:19:17.260 to the actual state.

02:19:18.300 um i was just wondering what do you think of all that yeah i think it's pretty cool this is kind

02:19:23.300 of the bones of um of how i would like to organize things look i'm in it kind of an ancap so i i get

02:19:31.560 where where they're coming from with this so that's good i like it yeah and there's if there's

02:19:36.700 parts that i don't like about it or i'm not as excited about it would be the technical side it

02:19:41.600 would be the focus the blockchain it would be the full transparency and it would be you know

02:19:46.300 the idea that on a long enough timeline i bet they would integrate ai into this i'm not

02:19:51.000 you know it would come to pass that the network state would might very well have the all the

02:19:58.320 negative attributes of the current surveillance state um and you gotta maybe you won't mind that

02:20:04.380 as long as the state that would be one of my big critiques too is like the the reliance on

02:20:10.160 technology it's like oh well what what if you are what if the group that you're part of happens to

02:20:14.420 think that most or a lot of modern technologies do more harm than good then maybe this this isn't

02:20:20.860 going to work but i think the point is is there's the kind of the bones of this from an organizational

02:20:25.000 standpoint don't really rely on technology they're just made more convenient by technology so you

02:20:30.760 could do this on paper you know you could do this with snail mail um it doesn't have to be on the

02:20:36.500 blockchain it doesn't doesn't even require the internet technically the other thing i'm not

02:20:40.620 really sure about is the whole unbundling and rebundling like manually like consciously i think

02:20:46.640 this is similar to technology what did you lose by taking those bundles apart and is it something

02:20:52.540 you're capable of putting back together it's like a child taking apart a radio and then you're

02:20:56.920 hoping it works when they put it back together it usually doesn't so i don't know yeah and just to

02:21:03.020 bring this back to the start this is in effect what a lot of the islamic world is doing just

02:21:09.660 it doesn't need to have a blockchain you could have a decentralized affiliation network that

02:21:14.800 hits a lot of these marks that does it owns the land it has its its backup data it controls itself

02:21:21.200 it's not necessarily tied to any geographic area and it is just as effective and to the even earlier

02:21:27.920 point this is that the germs of these intellectual movements and these revolutions also follow this

02:21:34.360 And arguably, this was like America started off like this, too, as a decentralized revolutionary network that eventually didn't crowdfund anything on a blockchain, but it functioned like this.

02:21:47.100 So it is possible to do this without the technology.

02:21:49.820 The question is, even if you don't want to use AI and blockchain or whatever, what other technology could you plug into this to make it into a distinctly 21st century decentralized movement?

02:22:03.480 you know so that that would you know maybe your opinion of internet online identities is different

02:22:09.720 than this guy so you could take this framework and adopt it to a lot of different modes that

02:22:16.260 that's my belief anyway that's what i hope people take from it oh that's cool and knowing that

02:22:20.120 a lot of the conflicts we see in the world now kind of are between decentralized multi-state

02:22:26.980 networks

02:22:27.960 anyway I'll leave it at that

02:22:31.120 love it

02:22:31.740 I'll let you go now so I'll talk to you later

02:22:34.400 take care

Blood Satellite - October 13, 2023

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