00:00:00.000as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be
00:00:07.760i forget where i read this but it was recently this idea that you have like a there's a fairly
00:00:25.080narrow range of childbearing age in women i think it's like 23 to 30 something like that
00:00:29.160And when you get up to 30 and past, you're almost guaranteed that you have just seen or are looking at the beginning of a civil war or some great crisis.
00:00:39.600And down in 23, in the 23 range and below, you're in a golden age.
00:00:46.260So just for the context, we're referring here to a graph or a series of graphs that was posted in the chat that was showing Canada's average age of women giving birth has gone up from a few years ago.
00:01:04.740And you were just saying that, and I can believe this, that's an indicator of civil war.
00:01:10.200First, I've heard of it, but I like the sound of that.
00:01:12.400The way that they described it was if men, okay, if people generally, but men largely, aren't able to fulfill their sexual drive, that not even on a spiritual level, but like on a biological level, I wonder, and this is me interpreting, I think it's something maybe epigenetic, that you start to, your brain starts to work differently.
00:01:35.220you start to view in groups out groups government differently when you're 32 and you don't even have0.98
00:01:41.880a wife let alone a son you start saying who can i fucking shoot what can i burn down just just0.98
00:01:48.500just to feel the warmth you know what i mean it is what she's saying okay bob's arguing with me0.99
00:01:54.780she says she says she doesn't think it's that no because we're it's the environment that's
00:01:58.820affecting everybody right so when you have people people like generally people have women have less
00:02:06.160kids uh in times when it's hard right right so it's almost like it's not related it's an indicator
00:02:13.460like a symptom okay so she's saying it's correlated to a different environmental change but it's not
00:02:19.120like that's not the main cause we're live by the way just so you know she thought she thought we
00:02:26.020on pre-show still no but but that that's i i can believe that i believe it's corley that is an0.99
00:02:31.180indicator um and that could cause other things but you're because what she's saying is that women
00:02:37.100having fewer kids and also men being what we're what we're describing as a man being an incel
00:02:43.060those are two things that are happening at the same time one isn't necessarily causing the other
00:02:48.880they're caused by the same thing i remember i read um a quote recently i believe it's by martin
00:02:53.620scorsese or might have been paul schrader it was whoever wrote taxi driver it might have been paul
00:02:58.420schrader who said this but he said it's difficult to make a movie like taxi driver now because he
00:03:03.700said everybody's travis bickle and i think that's the lived experience and i'm reminded of that uh
00:03:10.060great dave chapelle bit where he said um he was either him or cat williams i'm pretty sure it was
00:03:17.120dave chapelle where he was saying that you know the only reason men have all the things in the0.95
00:03:22.860shows of wealth and even an apartment is so that we can have sex with women and he was saying i'm1.00
00:03:28.060not going to butcher the bit but he's basically saying if i could fuck you in a cardboard box i0.99
00:03:31.540would and that's if you remove the sex well why not live in a cardboard box really but and then1.00
00:03:39.460when you live in a cardboard box you go a little crazy you start if you if you're convinced you're0.98
00:03:44.140not going to impress any bitch with any of the stuff you're doing you start doing weird stuff0.99
00:03:48.080yeah you start like pacing in a circle and shit and it's it's cyclical right i'm gonna butcher0.99
00:03:53.280this but there's a there's an idea and it's like in population studies or game game theory where0.97
00:03:58.080you know you have the idea of equilibrium where you have a certain state that's reached and by
00:04:02.100being in that state it reinforces itself but you sometimes you have in game theory you have this
00:04:06.420idea where you have a state that's kind of biased in one direction like maybe the bias is people are
00:04:10.960having kids late in life but you have a two different states of equilibrium that can coexist
00:04:16.200within the same population so one would be places where you're having kids at 30 damages the economy
00:04:21.780and makes people worried and people who are worried have kids at 30 and so it's cyclical or
00:04:25.800it's it's self-reporting and likewise people having kids at 23 means a very tight close-knit
00:04:31.040family lots of kids um lots of closer community and the economy grows people are happy and healthy
00:04:37.000which in turn means they have kids younger so then you have an an opposing state of equilibrium
00:04:42.020both of them can exist in the exact same population sometimes even beside each other
00:04:46.640geographically right as long as they're isolated but you can't be in the middle if you're in the
00:04:51.040middle it's always it's like a hump it's going to tilt one way or the other i want i'm not this is
00:04:55.500that but i'm from looking at it it kind of feels like there there's a positive feedback loop on
00:05:00.960either end of the scale but not in the middle and maybe what you feel you feel that inertia
00:05:06.260transiting over the past 20 years from one end of the scale to the other and now we're sitting here
00:05:12.720the pendulum has swung and we're waiting for something to happen but nothing ever happens
00:05:17.480yeah and um it's hard to figure out who to blame for some of this because everyone will have their
00:05:22.960pet cause they'll blame capitalism or they'll blame socialism the feminization slash longhouse
00:05:29.920there's all kinds of things but you know the one meme idea that came out of our side that i
00:05:36.120find myself liking the most is hoflation the idea and i don't know what caused it i might be a few
00:05:42.660things but the idea that there's what we would call mids back in my day we would call them fives
00:05:48.820or you know particularly horny fours and then but the ego and the you know the the ambition
00:05:59.040of mids to get like a 10 man or what they feel they're owed is way off off the charts like there's0.97
00:06:06.320a lot of bitches acting out of pocket these days and there's a lot of and because to me i always0.58
00:06:11.360look at the incel problem dispassionately a lot of guys on our side will make fun of incels or the0.99
00:06:16.520incel movement or i call it the incel phenomenon like make the talk down of them like why don't0.98
00:06:21.080you just go on a fucking date and then there's other women who are scared of incels and they're0.96
00:06:25.940saying it's a man problem i just look at it dispassionately i say there is this thing called1.00
00:06:30.640the incel phenomenon and it is a social problem and i i don't think you can ignore that problem
00:06:36.140i don't think you can ignore when men aren't getting laid people die and that i'm just looking
00:06:42.800at this completely sociologically i'm not trying to say it's right or wrong i'm just saying this0.96
00:06:47.720is a cause and effect and you see that in every culture you see that in fucking china you see0.99
00:06:52.580that in afghanistan i don't care where the fuck you are they're just like shit bob is not incorrect0.99
00:06:57.300saying that it's an indicator in the other direction but you obviously cannot deny that0.99
00:07:00.900in the the first like the first direction is also true like it correct it correlates in both
00:07:05.560directions it affects itself in both directions but yeah you can't deny the fact that you can't1.00
00:07:11.120you can't have that many incels you can't have that many young you know young dumb full of cum0.99
00:07:18.100boys it doesn't take long for cum to turn into venom this has been known yes yes they used to1.00
00:07:27.460say use it or lose it but now they say use it or it turns into venom piss comes from the balls1.00
00:07:32.340cum comes from the soul and it rots your soul yep you ever have a soul full of cum for too long1.00
00:44:07.500We don't even care about arresting people for drugs anymore.
00:44:09.820we actually think it's easier to get everyone hooked on drugs which we know they do we know0.96
00:44:14.240they don't actually give a shit about fentanyl so i can see a future where the cartels actually0.58
00:44:19.860are legitimized and remain literally keep doing what they're doing and just that is the unification0.98
00:44:26.260of north america and mexico doesn't really need to get rid of cartels no way to think about that
00:44:32.840i think that will happen i think that will happen in some places it will probably happen
00:44:38.380the farther south you go and the closer you get to mexico the more common that will be
00:44:42.600but um oh and also let me just say this what how the way mexico does this is the cartels know this
00:44:48.920is coming they they take maybe two years and allow the cartels to sort it out amongst themselves
00:44:55.720with some kind of massive war like like china did with the triads it's like we're going to give you
00:45:00.420like a few months you have a massive war the one that remains is the one that's going to get all
00:45:05.580the money and you let them fucking solve it that way right so that's that was kind of what i was
00:45:10.720going to say so you remember we were talking about uh the vancouver model right and the way that0.92
00:45:15.220china it is through the triads but it is it's a central chinese government that's funding and and
00:45:20.520controlling the thing from the top down china is importing all this fentanyl to north america
00:45:25.340through vancouver um and like you said it used to be that it was the triads and then the government
00:45:31.120realized how much money they could make and they still use the triads but it would be incorrect to
00:45:36.380say it's this is this is just the triads have grown into an unopened market and expanded that's
00:45:41.980not really true the triads on their own especially if CSIS was paying attention could never have done
00:45:48.280what they did in Vancouver the only way that was ever possible was with the the weight of the
00:45:53.700entire Chinese central government behind them organizing it and covering for them and I think
00:45:58.520the same thing is going to happen i think and i i have an anecdote because i was dealing with
00:46:03.900i don't how do i say this i was dealing with somebody today because i met somebody who in
00:46:12.100my new job as i meet a lot of people in my new job i met a person who is closely related to a
00:46:18.580person who owns a controlling share of the largest um dispensary and like factory or whatever you
00:46:29.040call these now that for weed in canada this is worth uh tens of tens of billions of dollars i
00:46:37.080believe and also just just as a tangent for people who don't know that i was um when i was at an
00:46:42.520agency a few agencies ago um this was what we were trying to get into at the time because
00:46:47.120weed legalization hadn't hit yet but you saw entire towns and municipalities campaigning to
00:46:53.840have these massive weed grow-ups go to revitalize their town so like and like you would see with a0.88
00:47:00.160factory or a car plant you saw that for fucking massive grow-ups what you've got and i could be
00:47:06.380wrong about this but this is kind of my understanding of it you've got i think there's one called med0.52
00:47:10.320leaf and there's another one there's a whole bunch of them where they're billing it as medical because
00:47:14.020the primary thing the government wanted to legalize it for was for medical you know cbd
00:47:18.360oil and whatever the fuck but obviously the proliferation of all these head shops because0.98
00:47:22.560like every corner store now is fucking shut down every domino's has gone it's a head shop every0.97
00:47:26.040every town in canada has five head shops and nothing else again for people who don't live in0.95
00:47:31.020canada it's difficult for me to explain how prolific these weeds independent and official0.84
00:47:38.400weed stores are they're fucking on every single block i swear to god and i okay so and i'm still
00:47:43.780look i'm working i haven't researched this maybe somebody can respond and give us more info and i0.96
00:47:47.340just haven't looked into it but from my understanding looking at how they have taken
00:47:50.880up space um and and if you remember prior to weed being legalized it was already everywhere you know
00:47:57.080there was a lot of push to allow it because everybody was already smoking it and it was cheap
00:48:00.940because it grows easily and everybody has three plants in their backyard already right so it's
00:48:05.380not like it's not like it was a completely new market but somehow they got the money um to open
00:48:11.800these businesses most of them have been open now for years and they're running totally fine and
00:48:15.380when you see them you can tell because first of all there's three of them beside each other on a
00:48:19.180block they're the nicest well like most well-maintained businesses on the block there's
00:48:24.100usually all of the burnt out chinese restaurants and closed corner stores and boarded up houses
00:48:28.460but there's three brand new head shops not brand new well-maintained five-year-old head shops that
00:48:33.480have loads of money so i'm sure there's some kind of subsidy i'm sure there's some kind of tax fraud0.76
00:48:37.960going on and i know also this was my anecdote that there's an absolute fucking insane amount
00:48:44.100of money coming in from other countries because this is not a local industry this this main company
00:48:49.840i think it's called medleaf is the primary shareholders are like they're like um one of
00:48:56.060them is from gibraltar one of them is from is two of them are from israel no three of them are from
00:49:01.940israel it's mostly israel i think there's more than half owned by israelis but it's a technically
00:49:06.280a canadian company but the guys who own this are like huge billion dollar investors from the middle
00:49:11.800east and eastern europe and they're and there's there's a russian guy in there and they and they
00:49:16.560are running this thing so those guys i'm sure like they have their network and a lot of these
00:49:21.920businesses these head shops are getting subsumed into them right who's operating the head shop
00:49:27.040you've probably got the guys that used to be selling weed illegally because they're the ones
00:49:31.020you know the market yeah you've probably got old ex-hells angels guys you got local gang members
00:49:35.720So that, I mean, that's to me where these guys are fitting in. You walk into your local head shop and look at the guy behind the counter and you tell me he was not on the, on the lamb from the police 10 years ago. He probably was. And now he just works there, but that's how they've integrated them. It's definitely not the hell's angels running a billion dollar weed industry. It's Israel. It's Israel. And I think the exact same thing is going to happen. If they make a Coke legal, you are going to have the cartel guys because the cartel guys are the best labor pool, but the money to develop
00:50:05.700this into a factory the cartels aren't going to open like the the mega plant making the highest0.97
00:50:10.980quality coke they're fucking incompetent savages what they are going to do is drive the trucks0.96
00:50:16.020run the plant and maybe even do like operations level stuff but the money is israel so that's a0.99
00:50:24.400very very good overview of the situation i think like once you frame it like that everyone can see
00:50:29.160how it seems almost inevitable yeah um especially in the like there's too much money to be made
00:50:34.640and it seems to it's something that makes everyone happy you know it's not like the
00:50:41.260pharmaceutical industry right now the the quote-unquote good ones aren't full of lecherous
00:50:47.140treacherous crooks i'm really curious to know if the reason the weed shops are surviving the way
00:50:54.560they are even the economy's collapsing around us is because they're like mini pharma companies0.99
00:50:59.300you know like pharma can can fuck with the billing and and then charge the government for0.99
00:51:04.460deductibles and whatever the fuck and they so they're they're they're overcharging you and0.99
00:51:08.380then getting paid twice by the government and shit like that i wonder if that's what's going0.97
00:51:11.620on because otherwise it honestly you you and i know anybody who drives around canada it doesn't0.93
00:51:15.480make any fucking sense these head shops it makes no sense also if you end up in a native reserve
00:51:21.160an aboriginal like i know that's all they have that's their whole economy they're they're their0.98
00:51:25.980main strip they're downtown it's just way too many gas stations and way too many head shops
00:51:32.020all different all different ones they're not it's not one franchise and they all have they're all0.99
00:51:36.720massive they're all like walmart sized fucking yeah it's crazy like what are you fucking selling0.88
00:51:42.340there dude it's a gas and then every every store the gas stations and all of them are selling beef0.98
00:51:47.760jerky homemade it's such a it's a dude economy if you really look at it i've never go in i feel
00:51:53.840uncomfortable even driving through them i want to i want to fight another war against the aboriginals0.97
00:51:58.260i think we should we should take back all the land and fucking we should we shouldn't exterminate0.99
00:52:02.640them but we should fight them and make them think we're going to exterminate them and see if we can0.98
00:52:06.460get a better deal because we're getting a fucking raw deal even in when we were living in toronto0.98
00:52:11.420before it was legalized they still had weed stores but it was this fun cat and mouse game they're0.95
00:52:17.100playing with the cops like you'd have a storefront because a store closes out of business right let's
00:52:22.000say there's an abandoned store whatever these people would come over like lease it for one or
00:52:26.800two months they'd have a bouncer there checking your id and they would just sell they were just
00:52:32.200illegal illegally selling drugs out of a store and they would do that until they got busted
00:52:36.780but the whole idea was by that time that they uh were busted they were making so much money
00:52:42.120like you're making money hand over fist like they just pay it yeah the fines and shutting down and
00:52:47.920stuff is just cost doing business do you remember we went to a place in college that was like a
00:52:51.920three floor downtown like a brownstone kindred mixed it was called kindred yeah i that and that
00:52:58.340blew my mind when we went there i'm like the first time i went there i think we were probably like0.99
00:53:02.14019 i'm like isn't isn't this illegal like not that i care but how the fuck are you you're literally0.94
00:53:07.580out on it's like a block from young street in downtown toronto it's a nice looking place and0.76
00:53:12.320it's beautiful place it's three floors and they have a rooftop patio with like uh like muskoka
00:53:17.940chairs and stuff and everybody's smoking and everybody they got a whole beautiful laminated
00:53:22.340menu of edibles like this was serving you like this was like 15 years ago like yeah weed0.61
00:53:27.920milkshakes yeah i remember that very distinctly i'm like how the fuck is this open there's like
00:53:32.140100 people here there's people outside like you go to those and this is again back in the day so0.99
00:53:37.280people these days might not have their heads wrapped around this because everyone's fucking
00:53:41.460vaping weed everywhere but back then you're walking in there like is this a honey pot like how is how0.99
00:53:47.460are you how are you able to be this comfortable and of course there's like a white chick with
00:53:51.700blonde dreads serving you but yeah you see that stuff everywhere i was very nervous and then you0.99
00:53:56.660and then you have a weed milk chick you say wow this is so cool this tastes like shit but this is0.97
00:54:01.320so cool no we spent i don't know if we cover maybe we cover everything with uh millie but uh i think0.92
00:54:09.360yeah let's have a keep an eye on argentina i wanted to see if i had time to do a quick
00:54:16.460uh left right left up down into movie corner
01:11:45.600like i'm seeing him do just an accent or a voice but he's sort of the antagonist in this but it's
01:11:52.140not clear like he's a senator who oppenheimer knew and half the movie it switches back and
01:11:57.980forth in time and this is what i was getting at where he films this movie in a very disjointed
01:12:04.120it's a in a discombobulating way um so it like switches back and forth in time it switches back
01:12:11.480and forth like he does this thing which he did in interstellar that's why i reference his older
01:12:16.920movies like interstellar is a movie i really really like doesn't get enough credit for how
01:12:21.520good it is but the first like half of interstellar is a regular movie you know it's it's well paced
01:12:29.600it sets everything up it takes its time where it needs to and it jumps ahead when it needs to it
01:12:33.680doesn't dwell on things too much that's fine um but then he gets in this thing especially when his
01:12:39.060young his older daughter shows up when they start switching back and forth in time and you can tell
01:12:43.880this is happening because the soundtrack ramps up and it's that it but it's very back every scene
01:12:48.420is like a few seconds boom boom boom boom boom and that's the entire movie it seems like it's this
01:12:54.200like every scene every scene in this for a while seemed like it lasted three seconds like it never
01:12:59.740gave you a sense to get your bearings on what's going on in any scene it's like switching locations
01:13:05.060he's talking to this guy then talking to this guy boom boom boom and now it's back in time0.56
01:13:08.060now it's back forward in time and he's doing like what what the fuck is going on but you never get
01:13:12.340a sense of who this guy is which is the entire point of the movie and because it's trying to
01:13:17.680fit so much stuff in but you know a movie like the imitation game with benedict cumberbatch like it
01:13:23.160it kind of kept its one location and it was this window of time it's it's a movie it's not a mini
01:13:29.420series like you don't need to have the movie take place across his entire life with all this shit
01:13:33.720going on have it be like the steve jobs movie like three epochs in his life that takes its time there
01:13:40.040but it goes through this entire thing up and down it's about communism then it's not about communism
01:13:44.680it's it doesn't really know how it feels about communism he doesn't know how it feels about
01:13:48.580communism you know he is a communist and then he kind of stops but does he it doesn't you know
01:13:53.220the movie wants you to think he stops being a communist but he never really disavows it0.98
01:13:57.080he still has all his fucking communist friends you know let's just move past that is he a bad0.99
01:14:02.340father well we never really resolve that we never resolve anything in this fucking film0.99
01:14:06.920it's a mess and the entire like apex of the movie takes place and like uh it's like a not a board0.97
01:14:14.640meeting but it's like um an interrogation between him and just some like government people like it's
01:14:20.140it's actually a very very boring thing but again the soundtrack is blasting you just screaming at0.79
01:14:26.740this is interesting this is this is epic and it's not fucking epic and chilean murphy who is an0.99
01:14:33.180amazing actor i think and you could argue that he's good at this but he is fucking dull as doornails
01:14:39.120like it's it's not a good movie and so anyone who's like it's really deep and insightful it's0.86
01:14:44.720not and it's also physics like i don't think you could really make that big a big sexy bombastic
01:14:52.180movie with albert einstein and nils boer like these are fundamentally boring guys you can you
01:14:58.900can try and make them seem like make them yell sometimes but they're not they're not interesting
01:15:04.080you got to kind of leave them in a quiet room imagine like a movie like the king's speech
01:15:08.420that sort of movie but have it try to be a summer blockbuster epic it doesn't work colin firth
01:15:16.540doesn't work like that colin firth didn't make sense in that movie like the gentleman or whatever0.79
01:15:23.780it was that fucking weird action movie he was in he's too british there's such a thing as too
01:15:30.580british for action movies james bond just right up to the line have i stepped in it i don't know0.97
01:15:37.300that's what the movie should have been but it's not it's like let's make the the nuclear bomb
01:15:45.160development well the development of the nuclear bomb is actually kind of fucking boring what was
01:15:49.460interesting was the war um and it's like we're in a race against time well they stay they kind of0.92
01:15:55.140beat you over the head with that it's not a race against time you know there's this one line that
01:15:59.720you might enjoy where again this is during the very heavy jewish part of the movie where they're
01:16:06.300saying that the nazis might be ahead of us developing the bombs matt damon's in this as
01:16:10.600well he's saying they might be and then um oppenheimer is saying that they might not be
01:16:15.800and it might be because of their anti-semitism you see hitler once referred to quantum mechanics
01:16:21.940as a jewish science so that might be holding it back and i'm like well here's the thing though
01:16:27.260he was right because everyone working on this is jewish every single person in this room is a0.98
01:16:34.880fucking chew so it's it's like i mean is he score one for hitler i guess is one of those things0.99
01:16:43.260where like you could have like haretz or like the the the the israel times or whatever writing an0.98
01:16:50.660article about how quantum mechanics is a jewish science heralding the uh the the jewish contribution
01:16:59.060to the field but then if one of us says it it's anti-semitism you know it's just one of those0.81
01:17:04.840things it's just fucking hilarious like we say with jews jews control all the media don't use0.87
01:17:08.920anti-semite and then they'll write an article about how incredible it is that such a tiny0.97
01:17:14.900minority such a a plucky young group of upstarts has taken over the entire put the entire thing0.99
01:17:20.920on their back and carried it up the mountain dude i hate them so fucking much it's unreal0.94
01:17:26.840i took a break from watching movies that i like i don't have a lot of time to watch movies so0.97
01:17:33.420that's very frustrating i'm going to try and watch that movie phantom thread by uh paul thomas
01:17:38.600anderson which i haven't seen yet you know i'm going to also going to watch i want to watch that
01:17:43.160stalker movie from the 70s you ever heard of that like the movie that the games are you know oh
01:17:50.880yeah um it's tarkovsky movie yeah uh roadside picnic or no that was the book i haven't read
01:17:59.940the book but it's just called stalker the movie i i watched the movie like 10 years ago and i
01:18:06.580stopped halfway through because i couldn't it was so fucking boring and then i watched it again this
01:18:11.320year and then i immediately watched it two more times and then i immediately went and watched
01:18:15.240other tarkovsky movies yeah i don't know why but like it it's not complicated you just just0.97
01:18:21.100fucking watch it just watch it it's it is it's just cinema it's just fucking real cinema for0.84
01:18:26.300once which is nice it's kino it's kino it is it's kino like the definition of the word okay i'm gonna0.99
01:18:32.380you got me excited about now because i was on i've had it for a while i don't know if you'll0.72
01:18:36.080like it but you should i bet it will i like i like this weird shit too you know um one last
01:18:42.580thing i'm good this is going to lead into the book i wanted to discuss um and this is just i
01:18:50.000don't know what to make of this yet because it's a developing story have you been following what's
01:18:55.640been going on with the open ai organization yes i have maker of chat gpt with billions of dollars
01:19:04.700in backing from microsoft is now in turmoil after the board fired its co-founder and ceo sam
01:19:10.940Altman on Friday. Just days after representing the company at a conference, Sam Altman was
01:19:16.440immediately fired by the board from his position as CEO of OpenAI, the makers of ChatGPT. And what
01:19:21.880happened next can only be described as complete chaos. Two new CEOs came and went in a matter of
01:19:27.220days. The employees all signed a letter of revolt. And finally, Sam was confirmed as returning yet
01:19:32.500again. So I got three, I got four articles open here that I think is going to tell the story for
01:19:39.920people because there's some just as of the day of this recording some new news drop that i think
01:19:45.120put the button on this whole thing so it all involves sam altman who's a name that'll be
01:19:51.800familiar to a lot of people who've been following this scene for a while i think even uh curtis
01:19:57.280yarvin wrote a book a long long time ago that it was it was titled something like sam altman is not
01:20:03.160a blithering idiot which is i haven't read it but that sounds passive aggressive and i like it but
01:20:09.200But Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, one of the biggest, if not the biggest, artificial intelligence organizations that's responsible for all that stuff that everyone's using right now.0.99
01:20:21.180This a few days ago, the news broke that he was being ousted from his position.
01:20:27.840And here's an article of Ars Technica.
01:20:29.880The headline is, details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam Altman at OpenAI.
01:20:36.660um the open ai president and three researchers resigned the co the coo said there's no malfeasance
01:20:44.920so one day sam altman is out and there's some kind of corporate you know no malfeasance but like a
01:20:53.500palace intrigue going on because you don't usually see this happen um for people who don't know who0.67
01:21:00.000don't speak corporate horse shit a ceo leaving should be seen as par for the course like if a0.94
01:21:07.300ceo is leaving even if they're being fired it should look to everyone else like it was decided0.99
01:21:12.580on five years before like the one thing you never want to happen is this happen unless someone's
01:21:19.260making a statement or it just is that ugly something crazy happened so the very idea that
01:21:25.440sam altman just is quote even if he's saying he's leaving for him just to not be there one day
01:21:30.460means that something some tectonic shift has occurred because a company at that level
01:21:37.300shouldn't be have this breaking news occur so okay he left here's another article
01:21:44.220written by and i don't know why i picked this one but i did it's published in the indian express
01:21:49.920um i don't know if you've read the indian express before but uh the uh slogan i guess
01:21:58.220for the indian express is journalism of courage so anyway you cut out you cut out there a little
01:22:05.540bit i thought you said journalism of curry i wonder if they did that on purpose they could
01:22:12.340actually added that to courage courage yeah so headline here open ai's ex ceo sam altman to lead
01:22:21.880microsoft's new advanced ai research team sam out uh sam altman and greg brockman who co-founded
01:22:28.640open ai will now lead advanced ai research team at microsoft so not long after they were
01:22:33.440chased out of open ai microsoft was greeting them with open arms say come over here
01:22:39.720and develop the next best, greatest AI over here with us.
01:26:16.800maybe that's a sign that they want to go full steam ahead with developing this ai and we all
01:26:23.700we have is this letter to go off of who's to say if it's true or not but i've heard you can piece
01:26:30.760together a lot of comments over the past few years from himself saying that like look it's kind of
01:26:36.400amazing that it's it's advancing so fast so i i think there is something to that what do you think
01:26:42.480about that yeah probably it was bound to happen eventually and i couldn't imagine a worse guy to0.91
01:26:47.720be at the head than the frail limp-wristed gay jew gushing on television it's it's honestly a0.97
01:26:55.660nightmare scenario for me yeah because this is the question is like if there were a nightmare0.97
01:27:01.860scenario let's say it is a nightmare scenario would there be any mechanism or any check or any
01:27:09.420balance that could conceivably rein it in because the story they're trying to tell is that the
01:27:13.520investors decided that oh this is too much power why would investors think that would investors
01:27:19.320really want to rein it in the investors didn't shut the project down the investors just got rid
01:27:25.560of sam right so you have to think for a second what do the investors know that the public doesn't
01:27:30.800and who are the investors by the way we know who sam is he's a 42 year old gay jew he's a jew and1.00
01:27:37.100he sucks dick and there's not a whole lot else to know about him other than he's a big fucking nerd0.99
01:27:41.560and he loves to cry on tv and then who are the board i don't know but normally corporate boards1.00
01:27:46.860are composed of older worldly educated experienced men who are there to give guidance where somebody
01:27:56.540like sammy boy might not have the experience normally that's not all boards but usually
01:28:02.640that's the whole point point to having a board when the board isn't just the shareholders that's
01:28:07.060who the board is so um the fact that now they've lost the board the board is gone and now it's
01:28:12.700just sam and sam's friends are the board that's fucking terrifying because now even more than
01:28:18.500ever it really is just sam altman at the reins of a an epoch changing technology and i more than0.78
01:28:28.580ever want to shut down the internet globally and turn off all of the power stations well and this
01:28:35.700is kind of what i was trying to get to with which is that this touches on everything this touches
01:28:41.120on neurotechnology this touches on because there's a lot of people who will like to you know scoff at
01:28:50.500artificial intelligence like oh you know it's not that i've tried it out it's not that impressive
01:28:54.620you know and what's it you know can it what they're saying is that the ai can start to
01:28:59.600address certain mathematical problems that human beings couldn't you know that sounds like a very
01:29:04.440cinematic way of describing it but it does stand to reason that advanced ai could get there
01:29:10.780and do and present you with something unprecedented and there's a lot of people
01:29:15.620who just don't believe that will happen and to those people i would say it reminds me of people
01:29:22.020because i'm old enough to remember their earlier days of the internet where people like oh so you0.97
01:29:27.240can send a letter faster so oh email it's fast it's fast mail like who fucking so what you think0.54
01:29:34.640what you're saying is so important that it must be instantaneous like we've had i've heard this0.93
01:29:40.240before i've heard this during the earlier days of the internet how people just didn't believe it
01:29:44.640would be a thing that like oh it'll have its day but you know people like you don't understand
01:29:50.540how big ai is you don't you're not you're not a serious person if you're not looking at this
01:29:58.280and freaking the fuck out like if you're actually looking at the the leaps and bounds that these
01:30:03.340technologies advance by while having a public facing you know aspect to it and this is what0.89
01:30:08.720we'll get to in the book in a second but like the ways that this like we're seeing the parlor tricks
01:30:13.900that i can do but even the guys who are developing it that are like this is fucking crazy what we're
01:30:19.280doing like i'm surprised i shouldn't be in charge of this this thing is in charge of it now like you
01:30:24.440should be thinking about where this can go because it's not going to go away it's like the internet
01:30:28.720did the internet go away it took a while for it to take its final form arguably it hasn't even
01:30:33.500taken that yet it's just had so many epoch changes so fast within one generation that
01:30:40.660with ai it's it's advancing these epochs are even closer and closer together like where ai will be
01:30:47.160in five years might very well blow your mind might very well terrify you so all i'm saying is you
01:30:52.080should be terrified now and think about how they're intending for this to be integrated
01:30:56.500into your life right now and all this like palace intrigue inside baseball stuff i that's why i'm
01:31:04.920paying attention to it i'm paying attention because like we had said about just before about
01:31:09.600foreign interests foreign like cartels and drug people having interests in the legalization of
01:31:16.620drugs in these countries like who who are these investors at open ai really because you say
01:31:23.360investors and you're kind of hand-waving to a bunch of shadowy old white men in a room it's0.99
01:31:28.880like no are they like who are they are they like fucking chinese elites but do you know do you know0.98
01:31:35.560who these investors are of this private organization and how the governments are integrated in this0.99
01:31:40.500do you actually know because there's crazy shit happening right now and there's microsoft like
01:31:46.120you'd think microsoft would be pissed off about sam altman going over to microsoft then going back
01:31:50.940and be like you know what it's best for open ai are you guys not competitors that's weird to me
01:31:56.460it's weird that you guys are supposedly competitors but you actually seem like you're just walking
01:32:01.320between rooms isn't microsoft a major shareholder though that's the thing like that how does this0.99
01:32:06.640fucking shit fit together because it doesn't make sense if you look at it from your typical0.99
01:32:11.200you know capitalist economic like these are companies doing things like every company is1.00
01:32:16.160the same fucking company and every company has investors from all over the fucking world
01:32:19.980working on these these things with this one guy here like the the way this all fits together0.99
01:32:25.840doesn't make sense to me anymore that's what i'm going at but it's going to affect everything
01:32:31.520um and that will lead into i guess the thing i really wanted to talk about which was this book
01:32:37.620This is a bit of a departure from what we were talking about, but I think it integrates well into it as a kind of an extension of what we've been talking about, about media and communication and whatnot.
01:32:50.040This is a book that was a compilation of essays.
01:32:55.740It's called Neurotechnology in National Security and Defense.
01:33:00.860so this is the more academic more policy driven dimension to what we were just talking about
01:33:09.980this is people in the government in the department of defense people warning each other or trying to
01:33:18.220figure out how to get a leash on this thing called neurotechnology because i do think artificial
01:33:25.440intelligence and this is sort of like the transhumanism thing this is like we are entering
01:33:30.340a new type of paradigm for war and global conflict where we are developing technology
01:33:37.480that can either be weaponized or employed to impact the human senses and the human cognitive0.99
01:33:45.700capabilities so what am i talking about i'm talking about fucking brain chips i'm talking0.99
01:33:50.920about new types of synthetic chemicals1.00
01:33:53.480that fuck with your mind and make you hallucinate.
01:33:55.880Basically, the entire point of this book1.00
01:33:58.420is academics and serious researchers saying,
01:34:02.160here's where we think all this technology is going.
01:34:06.080To revolutionize the world of neurotechnology,
01:34:09.480large tech companies are launching unprecedented projects.
01:34:13.720In 2016, Elon Musk, a renowned inventor
01:39:33.180and we know how to make that data go up or down,
01:39:35.180then using ai we can build constructive or destructive interference patterns to either
01:39:41.100amplify or suppress those emotions or feelings here's how it opens up it says what they're
01:39:47.320trying to address here is can nanotech can neurotechnology resolve the problem of consciousness
01:39:53.440and if so what will be the implications of such findings for social thought and conduct
01:39:58.720will these technologies take us to the point of being beyond human what values drive our use and
01:40:04.700potential misuse of neurotechnologies how will neurotechnology affect the international balance
01:40:11.020of economic societal and political power should neurotechnology be employed by the military and
01:40:17.640if so how are there limits to neurotechnological research and if so what are they who shall decide
01:40:23.420things like that so one of the things they try and get to in this book is you know these are
01:40:27.060science guys these are academics and they're doing what they've always done throughout time which is
01:40:31.620like maybe if we get together and make a constitution or we make a code of ethics and
01:40:36.760make everyone sign it and you know like a nuclear non-proliferation treaty or something so part of
01:40:42.420the book that they're trying to get at is like if we convince people of the dangers of abusing
01:40:47.140neurotechnology maybe we can set some rules i'm not hopeful of that but that that's kind of the
01:40:54.100very secular humanist optimistic approach they're taking with this book um and the other thing here
01:41:00.340is it says brinksmanship deserves to be explored as the reality of neuro weapons emerges over the
01:41:06.820next decade prod like for example prodding an opponent in subtle invisible and unverifiable
01:41:12.760ways has great strategic value brinksmanship arises when one contemplates the degrees to
01:41:18.440which danger threat and opportunity are potentially misperceived or understood
01:41:22.620can leaders really grasp their strategic options so like really what they're talking about the real
01:41:28.980implications are like neurological technologies is that everyone could possibly be being gaslit
01:41:33.760at all times you'll never really know and they'll give you some examples of the book that are really
01:41:38.860interesting but uh one thing they say here and this sets up the whole purpose of the book he
01:41:43.200says what is needed at present is the formulation and articulation of a cosmopolitan yet contextually
01:41:50.180receptive neuroethics framework good luck with that he says this type of neuroethics does not
01:41:56.520yet exist on a level that affords international relevance and application thus it might represent
01:42:01.940a watershed development that could number one strategically enable transnational neuroscientific
01:42:07.500innovation to remain cross-culturally sensitive uh and three be instrumental to negotiating more
01:42:14.600stable economic relationships so like all these guys are thinking that you know with the dawn of
01:42:20.440us being able to fuck with our minds and again what they're talking about here is like boosting0.86
01:42:24.600your cognitive ability, making people smarter, suppressing emotions, making you into a computer,0.98
01:42:31.140making a human into a computer and what that could mean for like negotiations. Like if you're
01:42:38.120an international leader, like how do you behave if you are convinced that Joe Biden has had a
01:42:44.360brain chip put in? How do you approach that with someone who is more than human? You know, we kind
01:42:51.920of assume that, oh, that'll just be, people will be okay with that. It's like, no, no, no, no.
01:42:57.260That's going to mean every leader in the world, and then every business leader is going to have
01:43:00.720to have the same chip too. And as we enhance and combine these technologies with machine
01:43:06.800intelligence, we envision powering new systems that are capable of augmenting our capabilities
01:43:12.740and increasing our productivity and health and well-being. For instance, we're currently working
01:43:19.520with the human spaceflight laboratory at the university of north dakota as well as with ntl
01:43:24.400group cognitics and researchers from nasa on research testing the feasibility of using wearable
01:43:30.800eg sensors combined with specially designed cognitive assessment protocols to better
01:43:36.720characterize and predict changes in crew members brain performance during simulated lunar or martian
01:43:43.440missions. And if successful, technology like this could not only have useful applications here on
01:43:50.920Earth, but could also help to increase the safety and feasibility of long-duration deep space
01:43:57.100exploration. So he says the things that neurotechnology seeks to address, like here are
01:44:03.820the main things, and we're talking about neurotechnology, here are the buckets that it
01:44:07.420kind of fits into one is human cognitive performance uh it says through better
01:44:13.340understanding of basic processes involved with memory emotion and reasoning including the
01:44:19.320formation of biases such knowledge can provide improved task design information structuring
01:44:24.900and presentation and decision support to enhance human analysis so almost like you know getting
01:44:31.500brain chips or getting approved neurological chemicals to make it so you could like read
01:44:36.920faster you know like it's so if you're like a government analyst you could have like certain
01:44:42.300implants or certain augmentations that make it so you could actually just read and process data
01:44:47.580faster or make or most interesting like they go to the point of like you know what if you have
01:44:52.180enhanced cognitive abilities you could actually create presentations to each other that are way
01:44:58.480way more detailed that regular people can't even understand so it's almost like increased human
01:45:04.600cognition as a form of encryption and that's like an i never really thought of it like that like
01:45:10.360that's like if you think of it like a government would in the terms of like powerpoint presentations
01:45:15.000and phone calls like i guess yeah this would be like a whole new thing um another one is training
01:45:20.120efficiency um and so they use the technology to enable rapid mastery of knowledge and skills
01:45:27.000with longer retention times through individualized real-time tailoring of instructional material
01:45:32.280medical treatment and rehabilitation is another providing more rapid and complete recovery from
01:45:38.260injury and enhanced resilience to stresses and hazards of military operations now this is an
01:45:43.220interesting i'll just take a bit of a detour here and say a big thing that they're trying to resolve
01:45:48.640with neurotechnology is addressing ptsd and basically making it so soldiers and people who
01:45:56.080were exposed like here's the thing like people talk about ptsd in terms of horrible things that
01:46:03.220one might do during war horrible things they might see during war of course that exists
01:46:08.700they're just starting to wrap their minds around the ptsd that may emerge maybe at a lesser level
01:46:17.300but similar when you're exposed to really horrific information you know and we we discussed this a
01:46:23.980while ago about how a lot of these social media platforms meta especially and tiktok would be
01:46:32.060another they don't really have good algorithms people like to gesture to the idea of like oh
01:46:39.560it's the algorithm that serves me the contents the algorithm they don't really have good algorithms
01:46:44.080certainly not algorithms to detect offensive content or illegal content they don't really
01:46:51.160have an algorithm to detect child pornography or gore uh how they detect that is that you know you
01:46:57.260report it when you see it and individuals have to comb through all those reports so
01:47:02.480nine times out of ten if the child pornography is not on the platform it's because real people
01:47:07.800found it verified it with their own eyes categorized it as such and removed it and maybe
01:47:14.160one day they get ai or machine learning to do that or instead of developing uh masterful ai
01:47:21.300they just enhance the human actors to where enhancing a human mind with cybernetics
01:47:28.740might solve a lot of the problems that you can't get to with an ai so you could still have fewer
01:47:34.460people doing it but their their cognitive abilities will be boosted however that just
01:47:39.700means they're looking at far far more soul breaking content every day so the other thing
01:47:45.280they're trying to figure out is okay how can we make people deal with these horrific things because
01:47:49.540i think there's an argument to be made that in an information war if information is weaponized you
01:47:56.000can be exposed to information on a screen that is meant to damage your mind it is is designed to
01:48:03.300traumatize you in some way and maybe there's some kind of trippy futuristic cyberpunk image
01:48:09.680that's designed to like drive you insane so you actually need to have minds that are made to be
01:48:15.700made impervious to ptsd but that is fundamentally like making the mind non-emotional and but that's
01:48:23.200one thing they're trying to develop with neurotechnology it's like how can we actually
01:48:27.080suppress emotions at the end of the day that's what they're talking about either through chemicals
01:48:31.860or through implants or whatever it might be so that's what they're talking about with all this
01:48:37.380he's got a note here it says as noted in a 2008 report conducted by the ad hoc committee on
01:48:44.180military and intelligence methodology for emergent neurophysiological and cognitive
01:48:50.060neuroscience research gesundheit in the next two decades for good or for ill will an ability to
01:48:57.640better understand the capabilities of the body and the brain will require new research that can
01:49:02.240be exploited for gathering intelligence military operations information management public safety
01:49:07.020and forensics so the other thing that they're trying to develop with this is like they're
01:49:11.520going to tailor this to like spying on individuals as well because the more they understand how to
01:49:17.940manipulate emotions on the military side the more they can actually manipulate emotions on the
01:49:23.380societal side you know i mean so like when you talk about neurological weapons like that's
01:49:28.960deployed not only against an enemy they're already talking about how they could deploy it to let's
01:49:34.180say put down civil unrest let's say put down dissident movement you know anything that is
01:49:42.120you know unproductive as i might call it and and anything is possible because they don't see this
01:49:48.100as doing harm not really it's just neutralizing and he's got one right here one of the questions
01:49:54.220they ask is can these technologies and tools be used to one describe and perhaps predict
01:50:00.660biophysiological factors of group violence to provide putative targets for multidisciplinary
01:50:07.340intervention to deter or mitigate aggression and violence and three if so in what ways and to what
01:50:14.440extent uh can these be utilized um for the general public so again like the other thing i want to
01:50:21.260just remind people like think of this book as like the policymakers talking to each other
01:50:26.380this isn't a conspiracy book made for you know popular culture this is something you would see
01:50:33.260like this is what the people at the higher levels are actually talking about and that's why it's
01:50:37.900phrased not in a poetic or sensationalist way like you have to kind of read between the lines
01:50:45.280of this book and really get pull the specific quotes where they get specific because oftentimes
01:50:50.600it's like you know we we want to be we want to be fair we want to be good we want to be you know
01:50:55.860good people but however let's be aware that china is doing this and we need to figure out how to put0.92
01:51:00.940down civil unrest just as well as they can like that's what they like fucking say and he makes
01:51:06.860a part about how the technology develops that makes this relevant is described right here0.86
01:51:13.620and he says uh all department of defense transition programs are designed to shepherd
01:51:19.740new products into acquisition programs or they are purchased for operational use so he's kind of
01:51:24.500describing how the government and the state department develops these technologies kind of
01:51:30.340like the internet how the internet was originally designed was it's designed by the government and
01:51:35.960it's kind of cascading through different sort of government institutions before it's finally
01:51:41.520released to the public and they make a point in the book that's interesting they said that you
01:51:46.140You know, in the past, what we used to do was, you know, we would develop this with the government and then we would kind of release it to the public.
01:51:53.640And they said, but as the decades have gone on, that process has gone closer to closer together.
01:51:59.020And the example they give was like, you know, we were developing drone technology the exact same time private companies were developing drone technology.
01:52:07.820Like by the time like the final good drones were ready for use by the military, they were already kind of being released to the public as well.
01:52:16.140and so there was no like secret development and so they're like you know any development of
01:52:20.760neurotechnology right now it's almost going to be happening in parallel with the rest of the public
01:52:26.740and that's one of the reasons they're writing this book which is like we can't keep a handle
01:52:30.960on the same one this is the ai thing i was talking about just now what they would love is for this to
01:52:36.400be designed by governments but we don't exist in a world where that can even be done anymore
01:52:41.580They've already understood that anything to do with neurotechnology or AI, it's almost being developed in full public view.
01:52:50.220So it's not anything that sounds like a leak.
01:52:53.200It's probably this is just the framework that they're living in right now.
01:52:56.720But then you have to think like, OK, so what do they know that we don't?
01:52:59.680Because they want us to know certain things, but not know other certain things anyway.
01:53:05.720And one of the reasons they're developing this technology, and they have an interest in this, and never heard a phrase like this before, is that while the technological capabilities for collecting, processing, displaying, and disseminating information have dramatically increased over the past several decades, human information processing capabilities have not increased in the same manner.
01:53:26.620These limitations of human cognitive capabilities will have obvious and significant consequences for performance in the face of an increasingly complex and information intensive operational environment.
01:53:38.440So just to relate that to something that people might be more familiar with, when you hear of a competency crisis, when you hear about declining IQ, when you hear about how like what basically what he's saying is like our technology has gone better.
01:53:55.200that there's more data than ever before but you know we haven't actually gotten smarter enough
01:54:00.660to process it and we're hitting a wall where the amount of data that we're given we don't know what0.67
01:54:06.160to do with because we can't read fast enough and maybe we're even getting stupider so consider
01:54:11.560that consider because people will talk about the competency crisis like what happens when the iq
01:54:17.360really drops what happens when the dysgenic biomass takes over it's like well what they
01:54:23.140have here is a pathway to have a permanent upper class of the cognitively capable. It's just it
01:54:28.960won't be done through genetics, won't be done through education and IQ. It'll probably be done
01:54:33.540through technology because it turns out you can just get enough chemicals or technology to boost
01:54:39.760whatever it is you need them to do. So this is really just the ramping up of specialization. So
01:54:46.320if you have someone with a high IQ and a high G for general intelligence, you could kind of put0.97
01:54:51.500them wherever you want but maybe if you have a dumb person but you can make them read fast enough0.87
01:54:56.480that's good enough and you can just put them over here where your job is just reading and we'll boost0.95
01:55:01.080this person over here if their job is interpreting this one type of data so you just have it's like
01:55:05.900the industrial revolution but for cognitive capabilities and creating like an assembly line0.98
01:55:11.740where you can plug in fucking retards to do this so it wouldn't even matter if people are getting0.99
01:55:17.520stupider or more high or more you know drugged out and depressed because the people who need0.99
01:55:24.100to be computers will be made computers and then the people who are getting a bit too uppity can0.99
01:55:30.580be put down with that same technology now what do you think about that does that sound a bit too
01:55:35.500grandiose nope it's gonna happen and we need to stop it yeah he frames it another way here he says
01:55:42.040as information technologies have proliferated over the past several decades it has become
01:55:46.960widely believe that information and its use on the battlefield is vital to the success of our
01:55:51.580armed forces. The use of information dominance is critical to military dominance. A more recent
01:55:57.580elaboration on the concept of information dominance is the notion of decision superiority,
01:56:03.960the process of making decisions better and faster than your adversaries. And that's kind of what
01:56:09.380we're talking about right here. So it's not only your ability to act more competently, but to act
01:56:15.460fast and maybe maybe it's shaving off milliseconds of your reaction time and but prior to this maybe0.99
01:56:22.420you accomplished that with amphetamines on the battlefield or cocaine or whatever fucking lsd0.97
01:56:27.920they're experimenting with but this would just be a more advanced way to do that0.97
01:56:32.160and one of the things from a scientific point of view i can explain the biology of what they're
01:56:39.740trying to handle because it's not this sort of abstract mindscape they're trying to do so
01:56:44.360he talks about this thing called interoception interoception uh comprises receiving processing
01:56:50.480and integrating body relevant signals together with external stimuli to affect motivated behavior
01:56:56.920so this framework comprises uh peripheral receptors the c fibers uh the spinothalamic
01:57:03.000projections all these parts of the brain that are specifically designed to interpret data
01:57:07.860and kind of translate that to what your body wants for example a person will approach a heat source
01:57:14.120in a cold environment but avoid it when the ambient temperature is high because what it does
01:57:19.340it uh it it let's see here interception is an important process for optimal performance because
01:57:26.140it links the perturbation of the internal state as a result of external demands to a goal directed
01:57:32.760action so really what they're trying to do all that is to say that they can actually just
01:57:36.560if you think of it like a mechanism or the human mind like an operating system all they're trying
01:57:41.140do is amplify that and heighten that so it's not even like you need to think of this like casting
01:57:46.620a spell on your mind it's like no we can just hijack this one mental process that everyone has
01:57:52.020and ramp that up so high that everyone's just highly highly sensitive to minute changes and
01:57:57.320things and that's that's really all you need to do and you can do that to help someone on your side
01:58:03.840or you can weaponize that to make your opponent like more confused and like walk into walls and
01:58:09.580shit like that and here's this really interesting part that i was thinking about today um because
01:58:16.620when we think of you know the uh the military mind we think of the type of person who you want0.99
01:58:24.400involved in these sorts of um military exercises you're probably thinking of a cold analytical
01:58:31.080maybe even a cynical mind like a battle-hardened guy but they make a case that actually what you
01:58:38.120want is this like almost like naive optimistic person so what he says here is that he says
01:58:45.080resilient individuals are able to generate positive emotions to help them cope with extreme
01:58:51.160situations according to the broaden and build theory positive emotions facilitate enduring
01:58:57.960personal resources and broaden one's momentary thought of action repertoire we suggest that
01:59:04.280individuals that score high on self-reported resilience may be more likely to engage the
01:59:09.640insular cortex while processing salient information this positive bias during emotion perception may
01:59:16.920provide the rose-colored glasses that resilient individuals use to interpret the world and
01:59:22.600achieve achieve effective ways to bounce back from adversity and maintain wellness so in short what
01:59:29.240what they're saying there is that a lot of like naive optimistic people might have a better chance
01:59:34.760of surviving high stress or traumatic situations so consider that consider how they might tilt0.63
01:59:42.700towards finding like dumb naive people to do these operations or to to hijack people's mental0.81
01:59:50.160processes to make them feel good more often just as a way to like blunt force them through0.98
01:59:56.500getting through adversity uh it's just a funny way of looking at like you'd actually maybe you0.60
02:00:02.660actually want dumber people to do these things which would stand to reason right like how
02:00:07.140like if you are have a very very low iq is it easier for you to commit murder you know i mean0.98
02:00:14.480like if you if you don't understand things yeah yeah i think so he gives a couple examples here
02:00:19.960the mind's eye program the MEP at DARPA is already attempting to build a smart camera with machine
02:00:27.740based visual intelligence capable of learning uh generally applicable and generative representation
02:00:33.180of action between objects in the scene um basically it's like a an artificial intelligence
02:00:39.120merged with an eye and they also have a DARPA as a machine reading program uh that seeks to replace
02:00:44.720expert and associated knowledge engineers with unsupervised or self-supervised learning systems
02:00:49.780that can read natural text and insert it into AI knowledge databases,
02:00:54.820basically scan everything that's submitted or everything that's available
02:00:59.320and kind of scan it for emotional, you know, trigger words
02:01:03.640or to try and discern, like, when someone's writing something,
02:01:06.580are they, you know, tense? Are they upset?
02:01:09.680And then kind of figure out this is like a problem individual
02:01:12.920and doing that also with a camera too.
02:01:16.000And he says a considerably more imposing possibility is to, quote, change minds and hearts by altering the will or capacity to fight through neuropharmologic or neuro microbiological and or neurotoxic agents that one, mitigate aggression and foster cognitions and emotions of passivity to incur morbidity, disability or suffering as a way to neutralize the opponents.
02:05:00.440There's already people right now experimenting with, like, mind-altering bullshit.0.93
02:05:05.560What would take decades to make its way into the mainstream in the early part of the century may take only a handful of years to reach the general society today.0.90
02:05:13.900For example, UAV development by Honeywell with Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, DARPA, funding was recently licensed to the Miami-Dade County Police almost simultaneously with its military debut.
02:05:27.700um and here here's kind of the the big picture we're getting to neural weaponry makes the global
02:05:35.040landscape a potential level playing field it is no longer an inherent strategic advantage
02:05:41.160to possess killer satellites long-range missiles laser weapons and advanced weapons of mass
02:05:46.620destruction if cognitions emotions and behaviors can be accessed and channeled towards outcomes
02:05:53.720The global battle space will be dramatically altered, and in light of this, it will be necessary to design and implement systems to protect humans from neural interference.
02:06:07.260They even hypothesized another few examples here.
02:06:10.880Now, I don't know how realistic these are.
02:06:13.400I just wanted to go through them to kind of tickle the conspiracy-minded people.
02:06:17.220One example is a psychotropic generator.
02:06:20.340which and these are they said these are kind of examples that were tested out in the mid 20th
02:06:24.800century that i think work but were never really rolled out but i'm just going to say them what
02:06:31.160they are a psychotropic generator which produced a powerful electromagnetic probe capable of being
02:06:37.280sent through telephone lines tv and radio networks supply pipes and incandescent lamps
02:06:42.920an autonomous generator device that operated in the 10 to 150 hertz band which at the 10 to 20
02:06:51.240hertz band formed an infrasonic oscillation destructive to living creatures a nervous
02:06:58.060system generator designed to paralyze the central nervous systems of insects which
02:07:02.220upon further development could exert similar effects on humans ultrasound pulses which were
02:07:08.480supposedly capable of affecting bloodless internal manifestations without
02:07:36.980but it's called the 25th frame effect where in each 25th frame of a movie reel or film footage
02:07:43.120contained a message that would incur subconscious effects on cognition emotions and or behavior
02:07:48.880this technique was advocated to curb smoke and alcohol alcoholism but was also noted to possess
02:07:55.440wider applications if applied to it on tv or movie audience or a computer operator if one posits a
02:08:02.340battle space similar to the cyber warfare domain where does it originate and how can forensic
02:08:07.040science find determine and pinpoint the attacker that's the question so if these things are
02:08:11.800employed you don't know where the fuck it came from none of these leave traces like even with
02:08:17.000a computer virus oftentimes you can find out where it came from this it's just it's it's0.88
02:08:21.520released and everyone has plausible deniability um and one uh i know we gotta get going soon but
02:08:29.980There's one thing they talk about here because they're trying to take the very sort of, again, secular, liberal, humanist approach where they said an extremely effective diagnostic tool, such as the hypothetical use of brain scanning technology, could actually lead to an increased rights violations rather than a decrease.
02:08:47.700How might this be possible? By providing the Department of Defense, the DHS with an extremely effective tool to measure veracity or to tell when someone's lying, they could overcome one of the most significant barriers to the use of torture in interrogation settings.
02:09:03.120I never thought of that before, but, you know, consider this. The reason you don't use torture or the main reason that you're given is that it's not effective. People will give you the wrong information, right?
02:09:15.400now what if you could torture and also hook them up to a brain scan device all you need is a more
02:09:21.220advanced lie detector but lie detectors don't work it like the the lie detector machines that
02:09:26.060we have currently everyone kind of knows they don't work they're not even admissible as evidence
02:09:30.940anymore however if you actually did have a foolproof lie detector that means you actually
02:09:37.420could more effectively employ torture because all you need to do is tell when they're lying
02:09:41.960right then that then you could actually waterboard that that's pretty much what he's
02:09:47.400saying there and i mean that is true because now now torture makes sense right um
02:09:53.120and how would they actually do that like what would that technology look like um he
02:10:00.600cites f fmri gauges so an fmri sorry it's an fri machine the fmri gauges brain activity by
02:10:08.600measuring blood oxidation levels in the brain of a subject these data are then often displayed as
02:10:14.000an activation map for a three-dimensional representation of the brain with the increased
02:10:18.840blood oxidation levels by measuring an increase in oxygen this technology is able to measure
02:10:24.080which parts of the brain are more active at any given time so by using this these companies claim
02:10:29.220they are able to determine when an individual is lying by observing the blood oxidation of the
02:10:34.080brain so that would be the lie detector that's a three-dimensional image of the brain to tell
02:10:39.040when someone's lying um and anyway he ends with this he ends with like the pledge this pledge
02:10:44.760calls on neuroscientists to follow the basic ethical principles of recognizing the consequences
02:10:50.500of their actions taking responsibility for those consequences and obeying the law the pledge
02:10:55.300fits well within the broader framework of critical neuroscience
02:10:58.920um they're just trying to thank sam altman yeah because the lessons from history concerning the
02:11:10.320relationship between science and the military are as follows um is an amalgam of successes
02:11:15.780and failures there is nothing totally unique about neuroscience and technology and there
02:11:21.080are legitimate concerns based on these lessons i recommend um active education because there
02:11:27.980actually is no way to regulate this he's saying at best we could hope for weak regulation um but
02:11:35.100based what they're at right now is like not with that attitude yeah like well really like it makes
02:11:41.140sense that you know like once the idea that if people want to talk about you know fourth or
02:11:47.920fifth generational warfare about the blurring of the lines between combatants and non-combatants
02:11:52.440this completely removes any line between combatants and non-combatants like all human minds on the
02:11:58.740world are if not opponents then targets to be employed and if they're convinced that a permanent
02:12:07.060state of total war yeah because they redefine what war is it's like what's on war it's on bullets
02:12:12.320it's not fire it's just you know causing pain in the short term to get what we want you see
02:12:17.940But this is why I bring this up. This is why I want people to think of this when they hear about AI and when they look at these AI companies and they seem to be working in concert with other AI companies and also the governments and also foreign investors because they've accepted that this monster is inevitable and everyone's kind of just trying to keep pace with it, it seems.
02:12:43.300but then also that they are asking the types of questions that conspiracy theorists would salivate
02:12:49.820over and like these are problems they're thinking about it's like well of course we're going to need0.93
02:12:54.160to fuck with people's minds like forget psyops your conceptualization of what a psyop is is 20th0.97
02:13:01.160century what you think of a psyop is old hat you need to get on board with what the psyops are0.99
02:13:07.540gonna be that's what i'm hoping to bring up here like it is you have bifurcated into the stuff
02:13:13.860that's for your people and the stuff that's weaponized against other people and then think
02:13:18.720about how those can get tangled up and intertwined how a citizen can be perceived as an enemy by its
02:13:25.360own country how these chemicals can be introduced and how the the decline of iq may be a feature
02:13:33.220and not a bug of this and that's just my speculation but all this is bound up together
02:13:39.080now i know that was a bit of a loosey-goosey one but what do you think about all that
02:13:43.880no i mean the the thing without most of this is it's inevitable to the extent that we allow it
02:13:51.820to happen the logic is sound these are the steps that um there's there's a strong motivation for
02:13:58.760people to take these steps you know if the weapon's on the table somebody's going to reach for it so
02:14:03.720it's pandora's box and then the question isn't is this possible the question is how long is it going
02:14:10.780to take who's going to get it first and how do we stop it and i i am laughing at the idea of him
02:14:16.460saying well you can't stop it so we may as well embrace it and educate and regulate no you can
02:14:23.000stop it you can look i'm not saying you should you can go door to door with an automatic rifle
02:14:28.740and take everybody's computers and shut down all of the nuclear power stations around the entire0.93
02:14:33.660planet you could you could airburst bombs to create a nuclear winner and kill the population
02:14:39.320you can do all kinds of things you do all kinds of things that would prevent this and i think
02:14:42.960living in a nuclear holocaust for a thousand years would be preferable to this ever happening0.96
02:14:47.500this is essentially the end of humanity but we all are walk around like fucking corporate like1.00
02:14:52.500corpses like permanent neurological slaves to some global government like man it's fucking0.99
02:14:58.940nightmarish and the way that he talks about this in such like plain calm terms like it's it's0.99
02:15:06.460fucking hell raiser man this is what academics do they'll be like well of course you know we're0.93
02:15:10.860going to live in hell but let's talk about what does hell mean who would some people know you know0.99
02:15:16.580how websters defines hell as you know you're the type of guy and maybe we're all getting to this
02:15:22.580point where you know you read the book canticle for lebowitz that famous sci-fi book that takes
02:15:28.820place after what they call the great simplification which is uh almost a black comedy event i mean
02:15:36.160black comedy isn't dark comedy not like you know the nutty professor um but like there was a global
02:15:44.480revolt against scientists and a global revolt against scientism and what they deem smart people
02:15:50.200because the scientists had caused sort of a nuclear war and nuclear catastrophe so they
02:15:54.300basically killed all the scientists and burned all the books and so it takes place like 500 years in
02:16:01.040the future and it's sort of this nuclear wasteland but it takes the first third of that book takes
02:16:06.600place in a sort of anarcho futuristic monastery where like they're they're trying to keep0.97
02:16:14.240information alive but they can't tell like they're trying to dig up old fucking coffee cups and0.93
02:16:20.040books and shit and just kind of retranslate them and keep them alive but it's it's like fallout0.99
02:16:25.400basically it's like a fallout book but the characters are a fucking a bunch of monastic0.97
02:16:30.300monks and i'm like like i don't i don't i don't want to give up all modern technology but i think0.90
02:16:36.580that's a fair negotiating position until these people start talking like serious people and so0.96
02:16:44.160like until they start taking this seriously because they're not fucking taking it seriously0.79
02:16:48.320like they pay lip service to how dangerous it is and then they keep walking forward and i like it's0.96
02:16:55.360well that's the acceleration thing where it's like i walk you forward so we i guess we have to run
02:17:00.220forward i guess we have to run i mean i don't i don't want us what i'm what i'm worried about
02:17:05.020is us just becoming i mean us i mean the dissident right 30 years from now we're just the republicans
02:17:12.400we don't actually conserve anything we don't save anything we're just the grumpy guys who complain
02:17:18.140about what's happened to the world right we need to take a stance that is is is opposite of what
02:17:25.280they're doing so i don't mind taking the stance that actually shut it all down billions must die
02:17:32.420and you if you think that i'm crazy give me an alternative and let's meet in the middle
02:17:37.800but meeting in the middle right now it shouldn't be meeting in the middle between
02:17:41.920their dystopia and today no i want to meet in the middle between ninth century serfdom
02:17:49.340and this let's find a middle ground between those two let's hash it out okay because i'm this is
02:17:55.820and this is directly related to the whole fucking sam altman thing earlier we still don't know
02:18:01.320what's happening you and i have been hashing out this whole thing about ai and art uh you and you0.94
02:18:05.980and geo and tlm and everybody too over the past what one year 12 months 12 months ago nobody'd
02:18:12.800heard of this shit and now it's integrated i was using it at work today i was teaching the boomers0.99
02:18:17.780in the office how we can use this like it's fucking it's moving too fast man it's moving0.99
02:18:23.280too fast somebody has to pump the brakes and i really do think there's something to the sam0.96
02:18:28.160altman fracas that has to do like i believe the rumors that there's that factionalism within this
02:18:35.800movement where people are it's between slow down and speed up and and almost like it's inevitable
02:18:42.440so we might as well go as fast as possible to outpace each other i guess anyway we gotta get
02:18:48.720i know you gotta get going now so this is a good one yep yep i'll talk to you later yeah man i'll
02:18:54.320see you yeah thank you for having me on i'll let you uh introduce me greg arcade he's introducing
02:19:17.020We are talking to Greg Arcade and I want people to go check him out.
02:19:23.560The best place I would think is gregarcade.com.
02:19:26.960There you can find all of his music and you can also find his writing at gregarcade.substack.com.
02:19:33.160You can find him on Twitter at gregarcade.
02:43:44.780but I remember, I know what I sound like.
02:43:46.880old episodes of the podcast, people could probably hear where I was drunk. But I was going to mention
02:43:51.840to you a lot of what you had just said is articulated in a sub stack you wrote that I
02:43:57.260would encourage people to read called So You Want to Be a Nationalist. And there's a lot you said
02:44:04.320here that echoes what we've been talking about on the show and what you just said about sort of
02:44:09.580taking care of your own self-interest. That's something we've been talking about over the past
02:44:12.940two episodes about how i don't think a lot of canadians especially canadians in our political
02:44:18.220milieu really know what our self-interest is we haven't really thought about it we kind of watch
02:44:24.520international politics like we're watching a marvel movie or a game of some kind where we're
02:44:29.960kind of hoping that our guys backslash our guys win but there's no evidence that the people we
02:44:36.000think are our guys will like us or act within our self-interest nothing we watch on the black
02:44:41.660scrying mirrors that are in our hands is ever going to be beneficial for us not it just won't
02:44:48.320like and that's just let's just accept that guys there's things that are good there's things that
02:44:52.280are beneficial to us that are seemingly but in the long play all of that is like an evil tool0.95
02:44:57.900you know what's beneficial when you put that shit down and you go knock on your neighbor's door0.98
02:45:02.900and you go like hey man you need help cutting down that branch that's about to fall on your car where0.99
02:45:08.340you park it you know you go do that because that's building community right there or you go0.92
02:45:13.180all right the grocery store sells food that makes the frogs gay but also makes me gay right but it
02:45:22.540does and it legitimately does uh i went to a business meeting uh last weekend two weekends0.52
02:45:30.180ago two weekends ago and they were buying lunch so i just got the burger because i don't like to
02:45:36.920get something ridiculous if they're buying lunch because it makes me feel like i have to put out
02:45:41.340later but uh but uh they the girl came up and asked me any allergies and i said yes soy as a
02:45:52.560joke and she came back and she's like yeah all the burgers have soy in them because they probably
02:45:56.340pre-buy the burgers or they mix in the soy because they are poisoning you and so you know that's
02:46:02.700happening so if you find a place to buy eggs from a dude who's just like hey i've got like 12
02:46:07.500chickens can't keep up with the eggs i'll give you five bucks for a bunch of eggs every couple
02:46:11.200weeks you know like they'll that's gonna make you healthier and that's how you actually beat
02:46:17.000this system and i know that there's gonna be people out there who are like look if i don't
02:46:21.560don my skull mask and go stick stickers everywhere and fight for our future it's like oh that's like
02:46:28.760that's like cool like do that if you want to do that but you know what's cooler it's like have a
02:46:34.300baby with someone you love like you sound a lot like my co-host my co-host who couldn't be here0.58
02:46:41.020this episode but he's doing the exact same thing where is he is he masturbating he might be0.99
02:46:45.780whacking off somewhere whacking off but he's somewhere in canada trailer0.98
02:46:50.200but like he he actually lived in hong kong he ran a business there for a while
02:46:56.160he moved he's canadian guy moved there moved back and he um he's he's living in a rural house and0.55
02:47:02.820getting into gardening just being a dick no every time i see him i'm like hmm he's he's uh0.81
02:47:10.800he makes furniture that was his thing he was running like a factory over there0.96
02:47:14.680making custom furniture i'm gonna do that to him now i'm gonna make this a sound drop and just
02:47:21.080pepper it in but uh yeah i'll just come on all your shows and be like disappointed in everyone
02:47:28.620that's what i do for everybody on the internet already we need a passive aggressive third mike
02:47:33.940i mean need somebody going like oh so interesting okay so oh that's that's you that's you that's you
02:47:39.680also you like that so you do that okay oh interesting is that good or bad no it's just
02:47:47.660interesting yeah oh just the sound of you writing something down on the mic you just you'll just
02:47:56.360send me a message on telegram when someone's pissing you off on the show and i'll just pop on
02:47:59.980and just like oh oh oh well really oh okay oh is that good for you your audience is listening to
02:48:10.700this podcast right now like man this guy don't shut up does he no they're saying that's a good
02:48:15.120ass idea i know my audience they're loving they're taking i'll do it right now you know what for
02:48:20.580christmas i'm gonna give you a coupon book that's gonna have like three coupons for like whenever
02:48:26.380you want you'll message me when you're pre-recording the show and i'll just i'll come on and be
02:48:31.200discerning then you just respond to me like okay so you want that now oh always i don't care have
02:48:37.920you not seen me join streams randomly on the internet i thought you're gonna be passive
02:48:41.980aggressive towards me with the passive aggressive no absolutely not i'm on your side i'm i am here
02:48:46.400to bully your guest and also probably you and your audience so i can take it my audience some
02:48:53.000people of my audience have bullied me unfairly oh have they they're they're gonna get something
02:49:01.580coming to them soon it's it's me it's the greg arcade bullies blood satellite episode
02:49:07.100oh that's gonna they're gonna love that's a good episode that's a good episode we could do merch
02:49:12.840for that episode that's right let's pen that one in for later like i forgot what i was gonna talk
02:49:18.500about i think i had a point and i warned you before we started talking that i will tangent
02:49:23.180and we will not cover most of the stuff we tried to i remember one thing i wanted to mention you're
02:49:28.800talking about before about i just want to mention this before i forget you're talking about the
02:49:33.460music industry and and kind of leaving it you did have this sub stack i would encourage people to
02:49:38.460read called standards um and that that kind of articulates another level to what you're saying
02:49:44.140there because i just find that the story of your time in the music industry so interesting and you
02:49:48.720had mentioned this guy read my stuff this is fucking weird he's one of these reading guys
02:49:56.100and don't get me wrong i wasn't like a prominent character i wasn't some like big time guy but i0.56
02:50:01.940was in and around it within my own market right and so i speak from my own experiences and i speak0.98
02:50:07.380from actual stuff i did instead of just being like oh these guys in the internet are so stupid0.98
02:50:14.940i heard that they're gay lords it's like no like i'll say that on twitter but never in my sub stack0.98
02:50:20.100well you had made a point about like about the hunger people might have for political views
02:50:26.540more aligned with yours like is the country music scene in canada broadly like what's your
02:50:32.560take on that and so everyone up here is okay every musician up here is like uh even the guys who say
02:50:40.540they're on your side the guys who secretly message me later to be like hey you were right this whole
02:50:45.880time hey like but hey i appreciate that you said those things now i get it it's like they're still0.99
02:50:52.380fucking losers to me because it's like why didn't you stand up like where was your dick when we0.98
02:50:58.280were getting attacked and when i was getting attacked because it turns out i was the only1.00
02:51:02.440guy who was getting fucking attacked for a while there um you look around and canadian country0.98
02:51:07.580music what exalts shania twain with that mask wearing uh gay country singer they only care0.99
02:51:14.440because he's gay and cancer oh how degenerate can it be then it's good it's a subversion of0.95
02:51:19.340this white art form which yes they love country artists that will like make country fans pissed0.98
02:51:24.940off um it's not that they'll make country fans pissed off it's that they'll defeat country fans
02:51:30.940so uh the dixie chicks here's a great example now the dixie chicks spoke out against the old
02:51:38.040the old george bush wars right and that that was a faux pas in country music back in the day
02:51:43.240however they were right at that moment but if you look at the grand scheme that was
02:51:49.220more of an attack on white folk and now they changed their name to the chicks because
02:51:55.160dixie well we can't glorify southern culture we can't let people look into what the american
02:52:02.120civil war is actually about and the people who funded each side we can't i'm more offended by0.89
02:52:06.380the chicks to be honest uh yeah i know because they're all three dudes and everyone's a tranny
02:52:11.760so uh so you listen to paranormies as well like oh i i'm a i'm a i'm a big fan and also i would
02:52:18.620call myself uh an internet friend of a few of those guys so i do get a merch eh oh you oh you
02:52:25.800know i think i did see that because i was on records is me i'm the nation i like your story
02:52:33.080and i was on paranormies uh like a couple months ago as well and i'm good friends with uh johnny
02:52:37.800knocks on and yeah i love alt man alt was actually the first one i met through all of them a buddy
02:52:44.020of mine is in i think he's an irl friend of him if not he's just a he's a friend who's known him
02:52:50.000kind of from the beginning of the old way back the the original proud boys right and uh this is
02:52:57.180and if anybody's listening follow the story don't go crazy and spurg out there's a lot of really
02:53:02.540funny things that happened especially like alt schism with gavin that was probably my favorite
02:53:06.860thing about alts but i didn't even really know about any of that stuff until the covid gay op
02:53:12.460happened and i started being more active and vocal about things because i kind of hid my views
02:53:17.120and i encourage people to not hide your views like literally just tell people what you are
02:53:22.840and you're pro this and you know you you're aware that these things in history were a subversion
02:53:28.960just do it you don't have a lot of time in this world and it's not like you should leave it for0.98
02:53:33.960your children to do so just like grow a dick and do it most people are not really convinced of their0.98
02:53:40.400own convictions they don't really have convictions like if you're talking to the average let's say0.98
02:53:45.060let's call them a liberal you know your average working class liberal they really don't have a
02:53:49.660lot of beliefs they would stand by when challenged and you can test them like just get into a
02:53:53.860conversation and if you let them know that you want to like have an argument like a lot of times
02:53:59.360they'll just listen because they don't they've never had to even discuss the things that they
02:54:04.100believe they've never been stress tested i got something for you see the liberal has been
02:54:10.980created into a fine information war fighting machine it's the conservatives that's the actual
02:54:20.620problem see long term here what's going to happen is the liberals with their endless desire to virtue
02:54:27.600signal are going to essentially realize that they are like the ss i know people out there listening
02:54:34.940to me you think i'm crazy it's fine it's cool i've got a really long site it's fine it's you'll see
02:54:41.840it greg arcade's always right there's memes on my channel you'll see it um they're the ones who are
02:54:46.820going to flip over and be like oh my gosh like you know this these these lies from these previous
02:54:52.720wars, which I can't talk about in Canada because it's a crime. Uh, they essentially, they lied
02:54:59.340about everything. So we're going to be the ones out in the street, hatcheting people to death.
02:55:03.640And they're going to be calling guys like us who have been aware of this for a long time,0.98
02:55:06.620losers for not being out there, murdering people with them. And the person who's going to be0.74
02:55:11.480getting murdered is the conservative. The conservative is the one who claps like a seal
02:55:18.080for the Zionist right because that's the the bourgeoisie term of the week they clap for them
02:55:25.720as they destroy them and I kind of had this realization the other day that is probably
02:55:30.840most of the people that the Bolsheviks just yeeted were probably the conservatives like
02:55:36.580they kill a lot of people but they went after these conservatives because the conservative
02:55:40.120just sits there and takes it and praises that which destroys him and then there's the dudes1.00
02:55:46.540like us who like go and be like yeah yeah you can uh you can kiss my ass i'm not giving you any guns0.99
02:55:52.620back i'm not giving you anything back like there's something uniquely pathetic about a lot of the0.99
02:55:58.060conservatives and they try and prostrate themselves but then the people who they're trying to appeal
02:56:03.660to don't respect them anymore like like i agree with your point before too i don't want to sound
02:56:09.120like i'm just being con contrarian here i agree with what you're saying i just wanted to bring
02:56:13.700up like a further realization of what happens yeah like what is pierre polyev like is anyone
02:56:20.020energized by pierre he's a china man did did you not see how i lit him up on twitter last week0.82
02:56:27.600where he was singing that like chinese lullaby and it's like that's the weirdest shit and it's0.99
02:56:32.480also filmed on a camera from 1980s so you know it's like a chinese event what kind of fucking0.99
02:56:36.600queer gets up on a stage and does that kind of thing you know it's like hey greg we really want0.82
02:56:40.820you to get up there and sing for these chinese people it's like why well because we're gonna pay1.00
02:56:48.780you and they're gonna support you be like i'm not fucking singing this song this is gay0.99
02:56:53.120because i'll sing something better for them it's a humiliation ritual yeah you want to hear one of0.99
02:56:58.260my songs i'll get up there sure but you know i'm also gonna be cheeky on the microphone and make
02:57:02.980probably make some jokes pull back the sides of my face i i hate to do pull this card but like
02:57:10.120imagine if the roles were reversed and it was like a room full of white people and they made
02:57:14.980the chinese guy get up there in like a big cowboy hat and sing like a western song you'd be like
02:57:20.300awesome it'd be awesome but i'm like i think we are humiliating this guy right like we're making
02:57:25.340fun of him but that is what they did to him for sure and essentially what it does is it
02:57:30.120emasculates him before he is because he's the selected next leader of the country
02:57:34.320um before the show we were talking about some interesting things that i don't know if you're
02:57:39.260i don't know if any audience is really ready to handle do you think should i drop it okay so a lot
02:57:46.760of people are just like we hate freeland we hate trudeau we hate gulbert we hate all these guys
02:57:52.880right okay let's go through them in that list so freeland there's news articles about her in
02:57:58.980ukraine uh doing like fascist activism uh her grandfather was a fascist do you think like
02:58:07.040would you turn on your grandfather for money i don't think she would i don't think she did
02:58:14.640she was clapping uh to the galatian waffen ss guy she helped bring that in right like
02:58:22.620who came to the uh house of commons right like they were clapping uh because i think that she
02:58:27.720was legitimately clapping like we're the serfs guys we have to realize the things we see are
02:58:32.620not represented as they're actually happening at a different level from us our level responds to
02:58:38.340things differently than they do so you've got freeland who i'm pretty sure is still banging
02:58:46.160the drum and playing the political game and maybe she's a master spy or maybe she's retarded i don't
02:58:51.520know i like i'm i'm a serf so i'm retarded so what do i know only that i'm retarded right now0.51
02:58:58.280you've got gilbert i can't say his last name because i've only ever heard people make fun of
02:59:02.760it so i can only say it the way they say it now he's the climate minister or something like that
02:59:07.580now here's this guy who was arrested for eco-terrorism and people like oh he's a terrorist
02:59:14.140he hates this place it's like yes you're correct well why is he in the government to destroy this
02:59:19.820place it's like that's it like wouldn't you okay dude if you were like at some like case you were
02:59:28.260in charlottesville right and you were holding a tiki torch and they threw you in jail uh like0.98
02:59:34.320some guys are now and then you were like i got a lot of time to think about this i fucking hate0.99
02:59:41.940this place i fucking hate everybody here you know what i want to do i'm gonna fuck it up for all of0.99
02:59:46.400them is he not doing exactly that like he doesn't care about the fucking environment he just can't0.99
02:59:52.360run any of that shit he's just making money and like fucking this place up for everyone0.98
02:59:55.760who called him an eco-terrorist same thing with trudeau like i i have my speculations about the0.99
03:00:02.860guy he has uh worldly tastes very uh he prefers the company of men but i just i i my i thought
03:00:14.880his card he was going to play was that he was going to come out of as at least bisexual i thought
03:00:19.300he is going to by the next election uh i'm pretty sure i can't i won't put money on it because things
03:00:24.640are not as they seem and i'm a retarded surf but uh let's look at what they've done recently he
03:00:30.660just passed a bill that makes it uh not allowed for international students to work more than 20
03:00:37.600hours a week here okay so that that might not seem great because they're bringing in all these
03:00:42.320migrants are doing all this stuff right yeah i get it but he he that was kind of a nationalistic
03:00:47.600thing he posted uh another thing he did the flip knives right flip knives are going to be illegal
03:00:53.020right away uh but they're only illegal for import they're not illegal for manufacture
03:00:57.060and sale here so locally manufacture them same with wd-40 aerosol cans uh like seafoam stuff
03:01:05.980like that you won't be able to buy that after january 1st because there's going to be like
03:01:10.320restrictions on the size of the can so boys that's the new bitcoin but uh so yeah if you
03:01:17.800didn't know about that pick that up and so let's go deeper into this topic
03:01:23.020how many of you guys had your purchase and acquire license for firearms before the last three years
03:01:28.460did you how long have you had a gun you don't have to tell me but like it's just like no it's0.99
03:01:34.740i only got my license fairly recently within the so yeah so did i man i was a faggot until i did0.98
03:01:40.160you know like three or three years ago or something when things started going bad0.94
03:01:43.980trudeau's policies have created more firearms owners in the country than ever before his
03:01:51.420handgun ban made sure that every single handgun sold out and now they're everywhere in the country
03:01:57.920right like he passed that ban and then later that friday they were all sold out not a single
03:02:02.100handgun in the country no more imports sure but like i said maybe we start manufacturing
03:02:08.080within the country again maybe that will change things because that can put pressure on the
03:02:12.540government that's neither here nor there this is just things to think about um all these things
03:02:18.080that they did have made us stronger. Hey, you have to take this experimental injection.
03:02:26.360Well, fuck you. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to learn about health. Now I know a ton1.00
03:02:29.600about health. Now I know a ton about making food like gardening, you know, and the poisons in food.
03:02:34.800Now I have connections with local farmers. I have connections with local producers. I know people
03:02:38.740who have sawmills. I know people who like do everything. I have a great community of people
03:02:44.280around me i wouldn't have had any of that had i not been threatened to lose it because canadians0.95
03:02:51.140won't do jack shit until they're threatened with losing it that's interesting we would have sat0.98
03:02:57.840here and slid into garbage now what's going to happen if the conservatives get in power man0.99
03:03:02.740they're going to roll things back people are going to get convenient and lazy convenience
03:03:07.320kills, right? Inconvenience makes us stronger. Now, everything on the surface tells us that
03:03:14.860this liberal government is shit. And I agree. They literally wrote hate articles about me, but1.00
03:03:20.700I'm an example as well. Would I have become what I become had they not attacked me?
03:03:30.840would i be here today advocating for white voices would i be here today building things
03:03:38.960for dissident voices would i be here today on your podcast would we even know each other or
03:03:44.940would you have heard of me on instagram with me posting photos of my fake life and being like this0.99
03:03:50.160guy's a fucking faggot because i used to be one and it's okay to admit it guys we're canadians0.99
03:03:56.240we were heavily psyoped into the most degenerate bullshit that ever happened and you know what1.00
03:04:04.360got us out of it this liberal government man you know what i i know my co-host disagrees with me0.97
03:04:12.060when i say this but in some sense i am happy that we have someone like trudeau there because i think
03:04:19.560it would be a lot more treacherous if we had someone who was more capable like it's it's a
03:04:24.360bit more beneficial to have someone who's so he's wildly capable man and so i was gonna ask you
03:04:30.680everything you just said do you think that's due to a plan or do you think that's due to ineptitude
03:04:36.720i i can't i can't know like i'm not a i'm not a q retard here i i'm aware of operation what was
03:04:44.540that it's not operation paper what's the one the one where they say like the hero that's presented
03:04:49.860like the bolsheviks used yeah um is that paperclip i can't remember at this point i'm
03:04:54.800blue blue beam was the ufo one yeah but you know what i'm talking about yeah i think wasn't
03:05:02.380paperclip like the nazi like the oh yeah paperclip is when they brought them over right so uh i'm
03:05:08.560not gonna look it up guys that's just what it is now i just name a psyop and name a thing
03:05:14.940and it happened yeah like the one i'm talking about is when the bolsheviks essentially said
03:05:19.300trust the plan until they had everyone in the gulags and they just starved them to death
03:05:22.700like guys we're not the gulags people the the gulags people are the ones who went to bars during
03:05:31.500all this and took 50 injections so that they could go do cocaine in the bathroom in a downtown
03:05:36.640shithole where the cook doesn't wash his hands and the beer is too expensive we're the people0.99
03:05:42.240who are like um fuck that i guess i'll just like stay home and it's like okay now i've learned how1.00
03:05:49.160to like field strip my shotgun throw it back together in 10 seconds you know like you know0.99
03:05:55.140like and then you do that for a while and then you realize like well that's a pretty good skill
03:06:00.620but like am i just gonna sit here and wait for some like violent revolution for someone else to
03:06:07.440kick it off maybe i'll kick it off and then it runs through your head all the scenarios it's like0.99
03:06:11.900holy shit they'd murder the fuck out of me and my family so you go further and you go oh well that's1.00
03:06:18.500a good skill to have maybe i'll learn to hunt maybe i'll learn to do real with nuisance animals1.00
03:06:22.960maybe i'll chop down my christmas tree with a shotgun whatever it doesn't matter right1.00
03:06:26.020you got a shotgun now that's a skill you got because you chose not to be a disgusting scumbag1.00
03:06:34.020and continue in the old world and if there's anybody out there who's listening who did do that0.99
03:06:39.680i don't like you yeah and also i think a lot of people are still looking for i would say a
03:06:48.44020th century definition of what a revolution looks like and what a leader looks like and i don't think
03:06:54.760they've really internalized the type of revolution that would occur in the information age um especially
03:07:01.220with all of you want to know you want to know how to kickstart that revolution draw a new map of
03:07:08.340canada now don't don't draw a map that has bees i was thinking about this today while i was driving
03:07:15.760the dogs for a hike don't drop bc alberta blah blah blah whatever the federal government tells
03:07:21.180you draw an actual map so you'd be like okay well the calistanis live here you know uh over here is
03:07:28.280just like all sub-saharan and somalis like toronto's gone uh there's just a whole bunch of
03:07:34.860areas that don't exist and do that like if someone actually took a map of canada and redrew it and
03:07:39.820started showing people who are like asleep like i know they won't wake up but it'd be fun for us
03:07:45.120to have to just be like oh well here's here's blood satellites little country you know they
03:07:50.620got a couple blocks here you know and like stuff like that when you look at it and be like oh it's
03:07:56.020gone it doesn't exist how could you say that well because the federal government is essentially just0.77
03:08:02.700leeching everything off the federal government is held in place by a shoddy fat woman run rcmp1.00
03:08:08.500and like is that brenda lady still there i don't know but she's fat like fatter than me and then0.91
03:08:16.580and then you know like everything else is like you're surrounded by people who wouldn't do jack0.97
03:08:23.320shit if you went out there right now and start burning down their house yeah and also just
03:08:28.300something we had said on the show and people are probably sick of me saying this but you know we0.99
03:08:31.320covered the trucker protest when it was occurring i even went out to see them as they're crossing by
03:08:36.480where i live yeah yeah um what it revealed was that the canadian government doesn't really have
03:08:43.440the infrastructure or the capabilities to stop something like that and they wanted to desperately
03:08:48.260they just don't have the boots on the ground they don't have the money they called in all the
03:08:52.200parkies and then they called in every uh person from a sand country who works for a security
03:08:59.540company now because that's how it is every single security company's full of people from there
03:09:05.100because those are going to be your paramilitary units that start joining up the RCMP when they
03:09:09.140start trying to do bad stuff within the next 10 years. Yeah. And also the reason that matters
03:09:15.000and the reason that matters for people is because, um, this is my suspicion that, um, most of the
03:09:21.640North American governments, I think have pegged white people and also white men specifically as
03:09:26.400troublemakers. Um, and COVID was a great example. And you had mentioned, uh, the people who went
03:09:30.720along with covid but did it wrong i think the best example of because because white guys tend
03:09:35.580to take a stand for things and we talk about sacrifice and duty most other types of people
03:09:41.180just kind of go along and the example the visual example i always had was like the black guy0.87
03:09:45.960wearing the mask but not covering his nose so i'm like you're doing it so you're cowardly but
03:09:52.080you're also doing it wrong you know i mean but that's most people like someone like us would be
03:09:57.320like you mean like when he puts the gun sights to 10 because they're the most powerful at 10
03:10:02.020exactly in rhodesia yeah i love hearing stories like that i'm like you guys we're we're dealing
03:10:08.840with they haven't really changed that much over the past 200 years there's a good point you bring
03:10:13.180up there though man that white guys because white guys have traditionally taken a stand for things
03:10:19.180look they've decimated our populations for it we took a stand to deal with them dang nazis0.97
03:10:25.220right and that's why they hate all the white guys in the military who weren't getting vaccinated
03:10:30.720they got they gave them the bums rush right out of the military now they're begging them back but0.77
03:10:34.400it's always white guys who are like i'm going to take a principled stand for whatever the thing is
03:10:39.440but the thing that i'm a big proponent of man it's really interesting you bring this up and
03:10:44.080i appreciate it and i know i just cut you off in conversation no no no please feel free that don't
03:10:48.940matter it's fine um just kidding but uh the thing is like you guys we have to fix what we take a
03:10:56.820stand for our empathy is out of control our empathy has been out of control forever we've
03:11:02.100been empathetic for people who don't deserve it so like we're empathetic for things like
03:11:06.100oh my gosh someone on the internet was mean to that jew i better get in there and leave something
03:11:12.300in the comments like there's tons of white dudes who probably listen to this who are that white
03:11:16.540dude, 10, 12 years ago. Uh, it's the same thing with like this whole thing. Are we going to take
03:11:23.160a principal stand to fight this COVID tyranny? Well, two years ago, me was like, yeah, we got
03:11:30.140to do this. You know, we got organized. We got to do this. I wouldn't do it today. And you know why?
03:11:34.280Because I saw the vast majority of these people living in these homes, these hovels,
03:11:40.320they would call us tyrants for protecting them. And I realized that, okay, there's, there's still
03:11:49.840a lot of people out there who hate the shit out of this and they want to be indentured. So what's0.80
03:11:54.140the solution to this? Well, intentional communities is probably a good place to start. You know,
03:12:00.160you get a little homeschool building where you can stop your children from being subverted and
03:12:06.320people don't have to send their kids to public school you guys hold a couple blocks of a rural
03:12:13.800community and you hold it down and you grow from there because we can't win this overnight
03:12:21.920what's your plan that's a very important thing to say because like
03:12:26.540even when those videos came out from ukraine of the donbass guys who started shooting the
03:12:34.080ukrainian guys in like the little barracks and stuff because that was how they started that big0.96
03:12:38.200psyop war fuck i don't even know where i'm going no no no but i think you mentioned something0.95
03:12:47.260important there about intentional communities and yeah the thing i've got a young son who's0.99
03:12:52.620eight months old um and hey congratulations man i just became a father not long thank you
03:12:57.500it's it's a wild ride as i'm sure you know it is awesome but i'm sure you're anyone out there
03:13:03.180same stuff find a legitimately good woman stop chasing them and have babies it did nothing
03:13:11.020better than having a baby i will say to people just make it past the first couple it's gonna
03:13:16.360suck for like a little bit especially oh yeah we're still there so you do hit this period like
03:13:21.980he's at month eight and he's genuinely and for the past few months is the most fun creature i've0.95
03:13:29.080ever met like my little yeah my little sweetheart has just started smiling and it's just kind of
03:13:34.640like when when daddy's around she's like right in right into it and all you're actually gonna
03:13:40.180like when they start like trying to test you like when he starts like no i'm not gonna eat that and
03:13:45.640then he looks at you in the eyes and tries to mean mug you i'm like that's hilarious that you're just
03:13:49.860you're learning how to like be a times bro you gotta send me some physiogamy photos here so i
03:13:55.020and make sure that you're like cool and then we can do arranged marriage all right sounds good
03:14:00.140make sure i'm gonna be very scrutinous though i got a good head of hair and me too man man this
03:14:06.840is the longest my hair has ever been in my life it's almost down to the it's almost down to my
03:14:11.500tramp stamp i've yeah i've been wearing my hair long for like a bit like it's down to like my
03:14:17.820shoulders now um and i i dig it and what kind of hair you got see i didn't know this is i've never
03:14:23.200had a hair this long before in my life but if it gets really long with me i have like really like
03:14:27.880fine wavy curls and it's turning into dreads man and so it didn't happen when it was at shoulders0.90
03:14:35.380it was about two inches below shoulders that were it's like if you don't comb that shit every day0.99
03:14:40.300you have a dreadlock that you sit there pulling apart for three hours it's insane and it sucks1.00
03:14:46.340dick man it's the worst my wife took me to winners to buy detangling shampoo i felt like such a gay1.00
03:14:53.040lord well you do have a sublime cover that you've done so that's very on brand to have the i did it0.96
03:14:59.100better didn't i do it better i feel like i did it better i saw it was jeremy mckenzie who left i
03:15:05.220think a really positive comment on that one as well did you listen to it or did you just check
03:15:08.900it out i listened to i listened to the whole thing i actually liked that whole album that
03:15:12.920neon the neon 90s i would it's funny because i was trying to get soundtrack to the collapse done
03:15:17.940and it was like it was a blazing hot summer here man it's over and uh then i was just like i just
03:15:25.400want to do these two like 90s tunes well not even 90s like one was like early 2000s and now
03:15:31.280my dog just got let in from barking outside and now she's bugging me but uh it felt fun to just
03:15:38.560kind of uh rip that tune do it a little different but my favorite part of the record was the album
03:15:43.780art because i put pizza hut in there i saw that i was about to ask you because i looked at the
03:15:49.300cover like that is a pizza right oh yeah so i do all the art uh for people who don't know maybe
03:15:54.300i'll just do like a quick aside here i do all the art i do all the mastering i do all the production
03:15:58.840i do all the mixing i play all the instruments i try to play them as organically as possible so
03:16:03.120like i actually play drums and bass and guitar and piano and all those things right and when i
03:16:08.780write my songs i try and write them now like five or six years ago i i was in writing sessions with0.85
03:16:16.240people who would be like we gotta make sure we put feet up on the dash because all the white women
03:16:22.880like that like legitimately someone said that and and like said that several times with different
03:16:29.480groups and now it's just like you know i don't think i sent you my latest record there but i
03:16:35.580will after the the interview here but i've got like songs they're just like i keep your wind on
03:16:42.540your face is like a song that a lot of people tell me is the sleeper hit because it's pulling
03:16:47.060on heartstrings because in the bridge it talks about holding that flashlight for your dad when0.93
03:16:51.860you're working on cars and like shit like that and because that's like that's really my life man0.99
03:16:57.100my dad yelled at me so much because i was such an idiot with that flashlight and i'd like not be0.99
03:17:04.380pointing it at the right spot but that's part of being a dad i can't wait to do that to my kids0.94
03:17:09.300and yell at them for not holding the light while i'm fixing the car or i'm spending hours fixing
03:17:14.020something that could be done in like 15 seconds at my buddy's shop or something right it's so fun
03:17:19.220because i've already told my wife and she's caught me doing it i'm making up dad facts
03:17:23.360so it's like i have them too just about what is what type of animals that i'll just i'll make up
03:17:29.560an animal make up a country i'm like yeah whatever their logic dictates i'm like yeah yeah that's
03:17:35.460it's that it's big time well we're not our little one's not there yet but i'm already like playing
03:17:41.760to her little uh her little things and she's manipulating me already you know like how chicks0.99
03:17:47.580do yeah also for people i know you can get good practice on this by gaslighting your wife1.00
03:17:52.820well like i've been doing that for years but0.96
03:17:56.680why else would i have a wife making shit up and convincing them but yeah like uh my my0.94
03:18:03.720so much man but like it is it's so fun um just because you don't think it'll be as fun as it is0.97
03:18:13.260and a lot of guys are scared and they think things are gonna change the easier they change
03:18:17.800the better they're scared because the judaic media lied to them about it their entire lives
03:18:22.980and they didn't listen to their parents and their parents probably lied to them too because the
03:18:27.260judaic media lied to them through shows like tool time and all this stuff that tell you that like
03:18:30.980kids are hard it's like everything's hard no matter what you do but there's nothing better
03:18:37.960in your life than children there really isn't and family that's another good one too like maybe
03:18:43.240you're of a disposition where you can't have children whatever i i get it but being a part
03:18:48.960of your family is important and there's gonna be some people out there who don't have a family i
03:18:54.640understand that too but there's people in your life who have become your family like you sit
03:18:58.540there and you support them and that's the greatest thing in life hands down oh this is such a sweet
03:19:07.040episode man it is it's hey when when you're at the blood satellite good things happen but i'm
03:19:14.500also going to say so based what once you uh for a lot of people they'll realize that maybe their
03:19:20.640family doesn't even know how to be a family and it's up to them sometimes to create their own
03:19:25.700family to start family traditions because you didn't have any family traditions that's an
03:19:29.960interesting thing as well and once you realize how easy that is to do some people they have a
03:19:35.080hard time conceptualizing kids because maybe they didn't have a good childhood either but i'm like
03:19:38.560you can literally just start that stuff you could start let's have a game night what's that like we
03:19:44.320could start all these traditions all of a sudden christmas makes more sense it's weird being an
03:19:49.220adult into christmas there was an entire year so my dad had this room in the basement of the house
03:19:55.080he built for our family and he put a ping pong table in there and he cleaned everything out
03:20:01.120And we like made our own version of ping pong where we were playing with rubber bouncy balls and just whipping them on every like corner of the room and the walls and stuff.
03:20:09.900And it's like every Thursday for like a year was ping pong night at our house.
03:20:17.260And then we got a little older and then started like, you know, get to the point where you start like drinking wine with your parents and stuff.
03:20:22.740And we started playing crib all the time and stuff like that.
03:20:25.280And it's like, those are the things that it's so worth it in this life.
03:20:30.200and maybe this even ties into earlier in the conversation with uh the dudes who just want
03:20:36.280to do the violent overthrows and things like that where it's like why why why are you doing
03:20:42.600are you doing that so that you can have more free time to do these beautiful moments or you're just
03:20:48.040doing it because you're like spiritually angry and defeated and can you reject that yeah like
03:20:53.820reject that and just be like hey i need to like check myself and that's my dog uh i don't know
03:21:01.320if you can hear that or not but she's like it actually sounded like a person for a second there
03:21:05.920oh yeah well they're both both my dogs are husky so they talk like crazy and they're very needy
03:21:11.760but uh yeah just like focus on that what matters and you know what this is tying beautifully into
03:21:22.940all the things we talked about like from like we're not the ones who will be massacred by the
03:21:25.920bolsheviks and all these things because the people who get massacred and the people who
03:21:30.880get destroyed and all that don't take these values and hold them close to their heart and
03:21:38.120build upon them they don't say you know the people who survived those massacres were the ones who0.99
03:21:43.920like they they said guns were illegal so you can't have them it's like ah fuck you so you kept them0.98
03:21:49.000right? It's the same thing with like, you can't grow your own garden, but I grew my own garden0.99
03:21:53.400anyway. Like those are the things that keep you alive. And those are things that move you on
03:21:56.920because like with the Trudeau thing where it's like inverted, it's really just bringing,
03:22:03.500it's separating the, the wheat from the chaff. It's bringing the strong to the top,
03:22:09.340you know, cream to the top and all that. Like it's, and it's awful because as empathetic people
03:22:16.140who can't keep our empathy in check because we're white dudes and that's just part of our genetic
03:22:21.500makeup you feel for everybody and you want to be like hey don't do that that that's mean that hurts0.99
03:22:29.140those people but when you realize it it's like man fuck those people like i care about me i care0.98
03:22:38.620about you do i use your call sign on the show i haven't even said your name oh he said yeah he0.99
03:22:45.620said dimes a couple times dimes you know like but you know uh i try to just stick to call science as
03:22:52.260it goes anyway but uh you know like you take care of your people you take care of your friends and
03:22:58.260now we're talking for the first time ever in a space that will be public when you publish this
03:23:03.200show and it's like you're my buddy now you know and who knows maybe we'll have some big dramatic
03:23:09.760internet falling out but i kind of tend to avoid those because i just kind of stick with good
03:23:15.360people and also as i get older yeah as you get older too and you get the family like something
03:23:21.660you had said there i just wanted to mention um i find and this isn't the case for everyone but i
03:23:26.960find a lot of the guys who have a wife have a family and also have something figured out with
03:23:34.740you know their their house and whatever they are sort of a leader of their own microcosm
03:23:39.680so they already have within their zone of influence they've adopted the skills to be a sort of leader
03:23:45.900and so i find those guys tend to be able to work together a lot better because they've actually
03:23:52.760through trial and tribulation made to the point where they've got their you know emotions under
03:23:59.220control usually and they have a certain toolbox of skills to have made it that far so those are0.94
03:24:04.180guys i find aren't you're not going to get big dramatic fucking nonsense with them you do have0.86
03:24:09.420your boys and your crew you've probably always had for a long time if you're fortunate enough0.93
03:24:13.980to right like i've got like a really strong couple local small crews which like one or two guys from
03:24:19.500group chats right and it's funny because the most prominent one which is like the boys um
03:24:26.860the the one dude who would always be bringing up like guys this is retarded like i'm just gonna be a
03:24:34.180I know you guys are talking about like how angry you are, but like, just move on with it. Like now that I have a family, I'm like, oh, he was right. You know, and you kind of see like, you can't turn off the fact that you know that there is evil trying to destroy you.
03:24:52.600you're aware of this but the way that you approach it is differently once there's more on the line
03:25:00.060once there's people relying on you because you're the man you're the you're the patriarch you're the
03:25:04.660head of your household people are relying on you to remain alive because you are like the strength
03:25:12.620and the protector and once you're gone that's dangerous for them so you don't think about0.77
03:25:18.080things in a dumb way of like well we're gonna we're gonna stop this covid tyranny and overthrow
03:25:25.200it for everybody and we're gonna have our own 1776 libertarianism free guns for everybody here0.92
03:25:33.520in canada event like those are those dudes who were doing those like freedom for the children0.67
03:25:37.840convoys and stuff like these like old guys who used to be strippers and shit who are like
03:25:42.100trying to like rekindle their lives or something. And it's like, man, check your spirituality. Like0.92
03:25:49.900I don't, I don't knock on people who do like the pagan bro thing. Uh, I, I do follow Jesus Christ.
03:25:56.780Of course. I don't care who knows it. I don't knock on people who don't because, you know,
03:26:01.620very recently, like I'm from Canada, I saw the path. I saw how I rejected that world and I came
03:26:07.020back to it. And, you know, my belief system doesn't discount the pagan stuff, doesn't discount
03:26:13.500like, uh, the Arianity and all of these different like ways, because it all ties together in the
03:26:20.260way that I understand the world now. And I find that like, there's a lot of guys out there who
03:26:26.080don't, uh, who don't even consider that kind of thing. And even guys will just be like,
03:26:33.880listen i follow odin because i saw the show vikings once and it's like dude like have you
03:26:41.320looked into the belief system maybe you don't follow that uh you don't have to follow it either
03:26:45.460way but you don't have to sacrifice yourself to go to valhalla for a bunch of people who don't
03:26:51.540care about you and that ties back into the thing i was saying before of like the realization of like
03:26:57.580most of Canada doesn't care but there were a lot of people out there in the convoy thing who do
03:27:04.160care and like I think even of like my wife's friend her aunt she was so worried and I met
03:27:12.680her at a farmer's market in the middle of winter and she met me and here's this dude who's just0.98
03:27:17.960like yeah don't buy from those guys those guys are faggots because like I knew they're like it's0.96
03:27:23.080like like super woke company and stuff and she was just like she wasn't put off by that she was0.99
03:27:27.260like oh you're a dude you're a guy you're a man and it's like yeah like i'm men don't get along
03:27:33.820with everybody you're not supposed to because you're a man you have territory you're supposed
03:27:38.680to like you can have trade agreements with other men who are amenable to your own system however0.99
03:27:45.500you don't have to be getting along with everyone especially not people who believe in fucking kids1.00
03:27:51.540and I don't mean like they believe in kids I mean like they believe in putting penis in children0.99
03:27:57.680and that's weird to me and I'll never be okay with that but like some of those companies out0.97
03:28:02.680there they do that because they virtue signal for that even if they only virtue signal it for the
03:28:06.660dollars they're still promoting that degeneracy and so that kind of like solid rock comes from1.00
03:28:16.000these belief systems that I once thought were so stupid and gay and then realized that it was just1.00
03:28:23.200me being gay. And I had to throw myself from a roof to spiritually realize that, you know, we,1.00
03:28:31.780we can come together, but we have to come together about the right things and fight for the right
03:28:35.020things in our lives. Can you also just say an example from my life, right? It's something
03:28:39.300similar, maybe a bit more egregious than you, but I was, you know, with the in-laws and sometimes I
03:28:45.380talk without thinking or i just don't i'm tired because when you have a kid of those who have
03:28:50.280children you know you're always kind of tired you're never not tired it's just how tired you
03:28:55.760are i get you 100 yeah but i'm just sitting there and they're going through netflix and what they
03:29:00.140want to watch and it's some show i forget the show but it was like you know netflix is full
03:29:04.480of like black lady shows and like you want to watch this i just said like i don't want to watch
03:29:09.060any shows or movies with black women in them at all for the rest of my life i just don't want to
03:29:14.280do it it bothers and they're like really i'm like yeah i just don't want to and i'm not even going
03:29:19.440to explain i just don't want to do it it's not going to be good it's never been good and then
03:29:25.400they're like they've never heard that before i'm like you can just say it and realize there's
03:29:31.260nothing subversive about sister act i might have seen that dude i'm joking of course that was the
03:29:36.580worst i'm trying i'm trying to think i'm like it's whoopi whoopi goldberg was she ever whoopi
03:29:41.800goldstein yeah that's right right like she she's a black one who just got a jewish last name oh
03:29:48.420wow just just by chance that's funny too that's the thing that nobody really talks about but i've
03:29:53.300been talking about recently within like my uh guy crews here is that uh and whatever if you guys are
03:29:59.120gonna ostracize me for this whatever but like i have uh quite a bit of respect for like black
03:30:04.580nationalist groups as well too because they see what we see in the sense of like oh it there's
03:30:11.600actually like a genetic subversion happening within their communities as well too which is
03:30:15.580drawing them towards being these like pink hair blm people let me just say this though and this
03:30:21.700i'm glad you mentioned this because i was going to relate this to something you had said earlier
03:30:24.760when you had said when you were getting freaked over the coals and no one stood up for you and
03:30:29.320they all abandoned you i saw the same thing happen with kanye west when he was going on his so much
03:30:36.340and i i know that half of all half of all rappers for sure and i'd say most black entertainers
03:30:43.180are nation of islam aligned and they agree essentially with everything kanye west was
03:30:49.140saying and none of them went to bat for him maybe dave chapelle kind i saw a few man i saw no no one0.90
03:30:55.580from the fucking where where was the wu-tang clan where was all these big guys did it i saw0.66
03:30:59.700medium guys who like brought up the fact that it was like hey uh kanye you're not saying the right0.99
03:31:03.860thing you're you're saying that the jews are literally controlling you like a slave master1.00
03:31:08.460so we're gonna whip you we're gonna whip you where was kendrick lamar he's a fucking black1.00
03:31:13.360hebrew israelite he literally thinks black people are the original because he is he is split with0.99
03:31:19.660jewish genetics and he is implanted there to be a figurative leader this goes back to what you're
03:31:25.660talking about way before with like the marketing thing like people don't just get put in front of0.99
03:31:33.160you because they're popular they're placed there oliver anthony was a faggot from the moment he got0.98
03:31:40.040out there i don't care what anyone says you could you could see it and then what happened he came0.99
03:31:44.700out being like diversity is our greatest strength you know and being like i love joe biden yeah i
03:31:50.560wanted to know what you thought about him because i didn't you don't have to like you don't have to
03:31:54.240like trump to be on my side because i don't like him either see people on my side are not retarded
03:32:00.220so we go politics are gay politicians are gay localism's good right and i don't know if you
03:32:07.460saw what happened with me during oliver anthony i called it out as a sigh up immediately i was on
03:32:12.680the paranormies episode that where we were talking about him being at psyop right and uh i had people
03:32:19.640flooding my channels calling me fucking jealous and shitty and all these things i'm like you guys0.97
03:32:25.700are fags like how do you not see this like the whole world decided this is important all of a0.99
03:32:31.260sudden and like who likes that song now let's say we're three months away from august when that0.98
03:32:37.020happened. I never said once that I didn't like the song. I didn't really like the song, but I
03:32:42.680never said I didn't like this song. Um, it was whatever it was. It affected a lot of people
03:32:48.480because it was designed to do that. But now who's singing it? You got these guys who were part of
03:32:52.800these, like, like the fag voice, the not real con boys, the things that are created to make
03:32:58.480people a part of them so that we can, uh, sigh off people further, right? They're the ones who0.85
03:33:05.820singing these songs all of our guys realize that like this guy is the worst you see that video of0.96
03:33:10.800him playing that show in his little gay pink cowboy hat i'm just looking up i'm looking him up right0.99
03:33:17.080now because as you brought him up i'm like what the fuck happened to oliver ante where did he go0.98
03:33:21.020because that's the thing it was a psyop and i was right i was in this uh chat with like the white0.55
03:33:26.180art collective which i'm still an advocate for i think it's great right but there was people in0.98
03:33:31.400there like some some fucking telegram bitch whose name was like vril queen or something oh you're0.97
03:33:38.400invoking the vril oh really oh yeah vril queen sounds like a name i would make up if i was trying0.99
03:33:44.280to like make up a person she's making fun of me she's like oh yeah like a lot of people care about
03:33:48.540your 600 person telegram channel and like i had way bigger channels before i was like attacked by
03:33:54.400the feds and the rcmp and i shut them down for my own safety man you know like and that doesn't
03:34:00.240bother me that it's like oh i don't have a lot of people in my channels what bothers me is that
03:34:04.240you don't even see the fact that if you have five people in your channel who care about what you do
03:34:09.440then that's worth doing right like it's like oh you don't have enough you don't have 10 000 you0.97
03:34:15.920don't have a k at the end of your instagram it's like it's all gay guys it's all gay oliver anthony
03:34:22.380had 10,000 news articles put out the day he went viral.0.74