Blood Satellite - Skeletons Kickflipping Through Liminal Spaces Forever [＂gooncamp But cabbage is seeking more cringe＂]

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.760 blood satellite because apparently judas wife is the real co-host here she is she's filling me in

00:00:24.040 from behind the scenes.

00:00:26.380 This guy's been

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00:00:30.880 Gay!

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00:00:33.740 Hasn't been checking the chat.

00:00:35.380 Hasn't been checking the community.

00:00:37.420 I skip 800 messages

00:00:39.720 to call somebody gay

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00:00:42.480 and then I go back out again.

00:00:43.620 That's what I do.

00:00:44.760 Your wife is the homemaker

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00:00:47.340 She's the one paying attention,

00:00:48.880 making sure everyone gets

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00:00:52.100 talking stew,

00:00:53.240 talking kale you run in with your fucking cock and balls out so you what's going on

00:01:02.360 a real fucking black and white clown energy yes that's me the edward clown a real a real

00:01:12.760 cross-dressing man energy fuck you you know junus brings a real cross-dressing man energy

00:01:22.740 no i that's not true nobody said that it isn't true that was an odd era to be

00:01:30.720 gay i would imagine because i was thinking about that the other day about how acceptance of

00:01:37.880 homosexuality has had have a strange wave in american culture i'm only going to talk about

00:01:43.340 american culture i don't know what's like in persian culture but like a guy like ed wood like

00:01:48.660 He was openly he made a movie starring him about how he's a cross dresser.

00:01:55.780 And if you were to listen to liberals now, they would say if you were that back then, you would get lynched.

00:02:02.040 But apparently he was just people were just kind of bothered by it like they are now because he was also like a dweeb.

00:02:09.140 and it's like homosexual i was thinking about how homosexuality was portrayed in movies

00:02:14.960 in liberal hollywood movies in like the 90s but you know what edward probably would have been

00:02:22.300 lynched if he lived anywhere but behind like high terracotta walls in in hollywood well because

00:02:28.580 back back then like you couldn't everyone everyone has known forever that gay guys go into drama

00:02:35.420 at hollywood right like here's the thing here's what i love about hollywood hollywood as far as

00:02:41.440 i know even going back to the 30s has always made movies about hollywood it's been so inward looking

00:02:48.300 and all throughout the decades they've always made movies not only about hollywood but about

00:02:52.840 how hollywood and california generally corrupts people like the story of the young midwestern

00:02:59.800 girl who goes to hollywood and gets corrupted or killed or raped or whatever that's been there

00:03:04.460 forever and so hollywood's always been making movies about how degenerate hollywood is so it's

00:03:10.140 like a known thing but yeah i was gonna say like hollywood is an outgrowth of theater which is if

00:03:17.460 you think of the theater and you think of like maybe the circus or freak shows like these are

00:03:22.560 kind of brackish places where you can go and laugh and enjoy watching a thing that if you saw in your

00:03:29.560 own home you would call for your shotgun and kill you know what i mean like the like the two-headed

00:03:35.260 man or the bearded lady or i saw a jewish executive in my home i'd call the police exactly shoot my

00:03:41.240 family it's not a coincidence it's not a coincidence that there's a lot of jews in

00:03:46.120 hollywood because previously we kept them in circus cages now i'm dreaming that i guess it's

00:03:51.720 not a cohen coincidence it's not a coincidence it's it's well it's like one of those old wives

00:03:57.920 tales where if like a fat jewish executive finds his way into your house you must execute your

00:04:03.380 family with a shot family shotgun you used to have that too the family shotgun over the mantle

00:04:11.420 but you used to like have it and then i was kind of laughing about gays represented in the 90s

00:04:19.180 by progressive libs because you would have gays in movies and there's a lot like romantic comedies

00:04:25.020 but it was exclusively like the flamboyant flaming queen right the prototypical gay guy

00:04:33.960 and this was the progressive version was like flaming faggot and his boyfriend puerto rican guy

00:04:41.560 that was the archetype yes you get nothing and that you would ask them back then you could have

00:04:50.920 a real conversation a vibrant conversation about why do you need to do what does representation

00:04:57.300 matter and the liberal would say don't you understand haven't you read the news they all

00:05:03.620 have hiv and that was just an error like and go back even further like everyone was aware gays

00:05:11.480 were there like in the 30s you could be openly gay and it was i think more acceptable that you

00:05:18.200 could molest boys you know what i mean like you would hear stories like uh walt let me think of

00:05:24.520 just a name walter matthew well who's walter matthew i don't know it's a guy who lived he

00:05:32.420 molested boys in the 1930s now you're doing what you're not supposed to do which is call me on the

00:05:37.440 fact that i do not live in hollywood i was not alive then i have a very tenuous grasp on what

00:05:44.540 i'm talking about right now look my my point is i and i kind of agree with you if what you're

00:05:49.520 saying is hollywood even a hundred years ago was already full of the most degenerate shit of

00:05:53.920 society i think the difference like what i'm trying to point out earlier is that hollywood

00:05:59.360 or the theater has always been like that it's almost like a containment zone we allow things

00:06:04.420 to happen there we turn a blind eye to degeneracy there that we would never allow in larger society

00:06:09.680 but what's happened is not that hollywood has gotten worse it's kind of stayed the same it's

00:06:14.240 that it's bled out into the rest of us right but yeah i agree with if you're saying that like

00:06:18.660 there's there's like jewish producers in the 1930s who were molesting boys yeah probably

00:06:23.140 i mean it's judaism is about molesting boys that's kind of the core thing right well and that's i

00:06:28.640 think it was more accepted that gay men oh they're just the people who molest boys that's just who

00:06:33.960 they are and like it was part and parcel with that identity and if you were a gay man and you

00:06:40.700 had any sort of money if you're a gay man with 25 dollars in your pocket you had your pick of the

00:06:46.260 boys i assume this is oh dimes where'd you read this i didn't made it up and that's and that's

00:06:56.980 how we know it's true it came to me in a thought yeah you know what i was just thinking about i

00:07:05.000 was thinking about how all jews are actually boy molesters and any of them with 25 bucks had the

00:07:09.200 best pick oh you're thinking about that i was is it true that well i was thinking about it all right

00:07:13.180 okay fair enough i want to say that more it came to me in a thought came to me in a thought i was

00:07:18.960 thinking it and then i said it so how about that what are you gonna do fire me that's the best part

00:07:28.500 about being fucking homeless they can't fire you fucking call the cops i don't give a shit

00:07:33.620 yeah fucking do it what are you gonna say a guy said a thing

00:07:37.820 it's people want to disagree with me on that but they don't know how that's how you know it's a

00:07:44.880 good comment um i had i saw this post but it was uh a link to a reddit thread and it was about

00:07:54.040 kind of like horror stories from you know the medical field and uh it was about a uniquely

00:08:01.960 american phenomena it was about very very obese people you know who uh who get pregnant right

00:08:11.760 which is already a medical miracle you know this nurse is you know looking at this woman

00:08:16.560 and underneath her her gunt whatever the technical term is he's got a bunch of like

00:08:23.740 marks indentations red spots and she's like what's that and uh the woman and this is all

00:08:31.480 in text so there was no voices there's no video associated to it but i'm going to assume what the

00:08:38.700 voice was i'm going to do it for you now thanks oh that's from the fuck stick she's like the fuck

00:08:46.620 stick yeah it's from the fuck stick basically it was um a stick that a friend would use to prop up

00:08:56.900 to wedge open the gut of this woman to make a clear runway for the husband to access her vagina

00:09:06.780 why did the why did the friend do it and not the husband where's the husband also obese

00:09:11.900 he or he can't get you need to do it from an angle he probably couldn't get to like you need

00:09:16.820 a third person couldn't he just do it first and then like you see what you're asking oh why can't

00:09:21.960 the cameraman also be the boom mic operator no no i'm look well look it depends on the type of

00:09:26.680 film like i'm just saying like you could do a blair witch style fucking where you wouldn't

00:09:30.160 eat the stick but if you want to do a hollywood production with the boy molesting and all then

00:09:34.120 yeah you'd need to have a you need to have a second and third hand and the best boy and so on

00:09:38.360 the best what you're talking about a real gorilla style sex session yeah you could use you could

00:09:43.620 put the fuck stick there yourself and it's kind of breaking the fourth wall is that you do your

00:09:48.380 own fuck stick you didn't used to be able to do that but technology now means

00:09:55.460 you can do it on your iphone now for christ's sake the shit you can do with a lower budget

00:10:02.000 is phenomenal but apparently this is true uh this was verified by some other people in the thread

00:10:11.380 And another nurse had mentioned that, oh, again, fat couple announced that they're pregnant.

00:10:20.780 And they said, oh, everybody is so thrilled that this is happening.

00:10:24.420 What do you mean everybody?

00:10:25.420 It's like, oh, them and their neighbors.

00:10:27.540 Because the neighbors, these very kind people were involved as well.

00:10:32.400 Two people come in to hoist up this woman's gut to do what I'm saying.

00:10:38.640 So in this sense, it was a two-person job.

00:10:41.380 um they didn't go into the nitty-gritty of how long it took but how that oh that's just the

00:10:48.400 fuck still yeah we're talking about the women or the people i mean because it's the men too

00:10:53.640 apparently in this scenario who are so large that they like they need assistance to get out of bed

00:10:59.100 and things because you would always think that you would always think if someone is fat enough

00:11:03.060 then everyday tasks would be insurmountable like how right i remember being a kid in elementary

00:11:08.940 school i don't know why i remember this but i remember like a kid like when grade five or

00:11:14.880 something saying like you know if you're so fat like how do you go in the toilet do you like make

00:11:20.260 bigger dumps yeah and i thought about it i'm like yeah right because you're as a kid logic and i

00:11:28.620 haven't really progressed from that as an adult i'm still wondering i'm like i guess because they

00:11:34.220 would have to because they'd taken so many calories and food it would stand to reason

00:11:38.920 that they would shit more this is something i show to europeans just to bother them

00:11:45.340 this is just they just they shake their head and say americans

00:11:51.440 although i imagine that didn't french people invent being a fat dump of shit

00:11:59.820 yeah i think they had a monopoly on it there for a while before america came on the scene

00:12:05.420 seemed that way like reading the tale of tale of two cities and a lot of the a lot of the like

00:12:10.800 revolutionary era french stuff it seems like there were some there were some fucked up french

00:12:14.960 guys back in the day yeah when i think of like an american back in the day i think of like a

00:12:19.380 daniel plainview from there will be blood but when i think of like an old european like a

00:12:25.280 dickensian european they're always rotund and when i think of the very first you know i want

00:12:32.100 to make a broad statement here i'm going to make a daring statement

00:12:34.980 i think the very first extra large pair of pants or the very first suspenders which are for

00:12:43.800 i assume fat people don't correct me shut up still i think that came out of britain

00:12:51.060 it must have right britain maybe yeah it must have well i you know what germany

00:12:56.880 what country would have had the first fat guy

00:13:00.460 i'm gonna put put the listener on the spot don't look it up stay there hands behind your back

00:13:08.740 first automatic writing write it down first thing that comes to your head i'm not thinking iraq

00:13:15.220 i'm not thinking russia i'm thinking of the very first fat man who existed on earth

00:13:23.600 i'm thinking of a british guy what say you to that amazing i'll well i'm fuck you told me not

00:13:32.720 to look it up but i was trying to look it up i'll give you the heuristic you first of all you can't

00:13:37.540 look it up it's not like that would be anywhere well because i have a heuristic my heuristic is

00:13:42.300 the first agrarian human civilization where they had too much grain and didn't know what the fuck

00:13:47.980 to do with it would have become first very fat and i'll bet you anything also pretty fucking gay

00:13:54.720 i'll bet that was the first gay the first fatty and the first faggot came from the first agrarian

00:14:01.600 civilization is probably a the end of the last ice age i'll bet you okay i like where your head's at

00:14:09.280 it must have been here's what i did i went to google i typed where was the first fat man ever

00:14:16.340 and the top spot is daniel lambert what born 1770 and lived to 1809 he was the first fat guy

00:14:28.560 oh look at this fucking guy jesus christ this is hey this might be the first he might be the first

00:14:37.720 fat man like if you're telling me it's 3200 bc in mesopotamia there were no fat guys i don't

00:14:44.680 believe it i hey if someone's got the data send it my way but until now i think we got them yeah

00:14:53.220 it's pretty important questions oh shit daniel lambert no way no way you've seen this picture

00:15:00.240 now i'm looking at it holy fuck damn you don't even have to search the year just search daniel

00:15:05.460 lambert this dude he's got legs like if i stretch my one arm out to one side that's like one leg

00:15:12.220 wait okay so i thought it was daniel lambert was an english goalkeeper but it's a gal keeper

00:15:20.460 jail keeper that's jail g-a-o-l is jail yeah that's it okay he's the warden oh really yeah

00:15:29.800 this guy he was he's probably eating the prisoners he was eating all the bad guys

00:15:36.140 oh no he was also an animal breeder these are very you know caligulan jobs to have like you're

00:15:47.900 a controller of men in cages and also controller of exotic animals

00:15:55.860 simply tyrannical in in form and behavior says he's an expert in fighting cocks yeah fighting

00:16:05.680 them with his mouth i wonder if you're that big if you if you're even sexual i would imagine you're

00:16:11.360 not i doubt it the thing is in his portrait he has such like a young healthy face yeah rosy

00:16:17.800 cheek but his left calf is bigger than a grown man like in 1806 poverty forced lambert to put

00:16:25.400 himself on exhibition to raise money he just went on the road as himself

00:16:31.160 and that's the beginning of hollywood that's how it started imagine the audacity the the

00:16:38.920 brilliant audacity of this guy just standing on stage and going behold

00:16:44.300 back then you could pull yourself up by the bootstraps because everyone was so dumb and

00:16:50.980 bored so like when my dad says to stop complaining about the housing market what he means is i should

00:16:55.820 get enormously fat and join the circus do you want to talk about that no no it's upset not really

00:17:03.440 kind of talk about bootstraps ah you kind of gotta you gotta shit shit another page from the

00:17:12.280 book of judas the gospel of judas if you will gospel of judas yeah it's it is relevant like we

00:17:18.780 don't we don't need to litigate the entire fight here but if there were some interesting points

00:17:25.660 raised i don't want to sound like i'm ragging on boomers but i thought it was an interesting

00:17:30.320 maybe an interesting peek into the boomer mind if you would like to just briefly summarize i had

00:17:36.400 it wasn't i said it was a fight it was more it's just a disagreement we had a beer i'm on good

00:17:40.460 terms with my dad so we're just kind of shouting about things in the car coming back from lunch

00:17:43.940 um it's a man conversation and i'm based and my dad is pretty pretty based my dad doesn't really

00:17:52.260 know how right wing i am so i always see him tiptoeing around right wing issues but i keep

00:17:56.500 pushing the envelope with him or like you know and and trying to figure out where he's at a lot

00:18:01.860 of young men are in this position where they're now in teaching their parents to walk politically

00:18:07.160 so he's there on he's there with us mostly on immigration on taxation central banking

00:18:16.580 he's there with us on covid absolutely um the police you know prison system he's he's there

00:18:23.880 on most of the like those issues but for whatever reason when it comes to housing

00:18:28.000 and like generational economics he sounds like our picture perfect miserable stupid

00:18:36.320 fucking boomer and because and we're having a boisterous conversation in the car because i

00:18:41.500 thought we're on the same page and i brought up the fact that in the past you know three four

00:18:47.120 years housing prices have gone from you know 400k for a family starter home to 750 and he looked me

00:18:54.380 right in the eye and said essentially stop complaining it's not that bad i'm trying to

00:19:00.220 remember there's there's three main arguments his first reason that i recall and this is burned into

00:19:05.340 my mind was that houses are always more expensive that he had paid more for his house than his

00:19:11.860 parents had so it's just the thing that happens and and which implies that we're the first

00:19:17.640 generation ever who just doesn't get that to defend him a little bit there's more to that

00:19:23.360 story that i didn't say so what he had said to me was he snapped at me and he's like yeah it always

00:19:29.600 goes up and for everybody it's going up the number's always going up so don't complain about

00:19:33.940 the number going up but then the rest of the anecdote from him and i already knew this but

00:19:37.380 he repeats it all the time was that when i was born him and my mom bought a house at the behest

00:19:44.000 of the family because their whole family was pressuring them you can't live in an apartment

00:19:47.280 with a young child you have to buy a house so they bought a house and like nine months later

00:19:52.000 the interest rate um uh went up by like five points and they immediately were underwater on

00:19:59.120 their mortgage and it financially destroyed them and we were in uh like doing food stamps and shit

00:20:03.980 for like five years most of my childhood we were poor and it was a result of all of their incomes

00:20:09.740 going into the fucking mortgage because everybody's telling them the price always goes up and in that

00:20:15.180 case the price didn't go up so i think the he didn't say it but i think part of what he might

00:20:19.200 have been saying was it will go down wait for it to go down and that like don't be like me and buy

00:20:26.360 it at the peak just wait for it to go down and then you won't have to complain about it and like

00:20:30.260 i get that and that's what i'm doing like obviously i'm not going to buy it now i'm not going to pay

00:20:34.080 750 000 for a house that needs to be condemned um but the thing is if it comes down to a quote

00:20:39.320 unquote reasonable price what is that 500 400 300 like across the border in jersey in buffalo

00:20:45.460 it's 75 so like i i want to see 75 where's my fucking 75 that's i'm not mad about i want to

00:20:53.520 400 i don't want 400 i want 75 we're not even like out here in canada we're not even paid as

00:20:59.480 much as americans like our our currency is worthless like if you look at what because

00:21:04.620 we've gone through every line by line every option where it's like well what if we just got a

00:21:08.600 fucking trailer trailers are ridiculously expensive a trailer here costs more than a

00:21:13.960 house in the u.s yeah yeah so because i'm working off a trailer park boys logic where julian's

00:21:19.280 trying to raise like 15k to buy his trailer or something it's like but you look them up here it's

00:21:24.880 like 150 000 something ridiculous maybe more than that yeah for like just a fucking nothing trailer

00:21:32.800 and then you're asking oh what's the neighborhood like well you actually don't get to ask that

00:21:36.620 in a fucking trailer park it's trailer park neighborhood they're all kind of the fucking

00:21:41.020 same you're just hoping they're white but it's a bad type of white so i i guess in that instance

00:21:46.920 to wrap that he's saying you know you know it might be a pain to buy it now but eventually it

00:21:53.340 will always go up or at least that's the logic so i don't either that is what you're saying

00:21:58.080 into which i say fuck you because i can't even if i could buy it now like the point is i can't buy

00:22:04.280 it now if you're saying like if i bought it now at least it would increase in value well in your

00:22:08.780 example it didn't you lost money and you almost sank our family it sounds like you got lost as

00:22:13.300 example like i can't it's 750 000 for starter home man i can't even afford 300 000 i'm a small

00:22:19.740 business owner i can't even get a mortgage they won't give them they don't give more especially

00:22:23.340 now that the interest rates have gone up they don't give fucking mortgages to small business

00:22:26.300 owners they give them to salary like they'll give it to a fucking indian guy who's been you know

00:22:30.460 working at a gas station but they won't give it to me and i actually talked to the fucking banks

00:22:34.400 about this a few weeks ago or about a month ago and they the the bitch on the phone i shouted at

00:22:39.380 or she literally said well maybe you should get she didn't say real job maybe you should get a so

00:22:44.120 and so job i said what i should go work at a in fast food i should quit what i'm doing close my

00:22:48.700 business and go work at a gas station she's like yes yes if you want a house you need to go and do

00:22:54.100 that and i just hung up the phone like there's no fucking way you're serious which is they just want

00:22:58.580 to repossess the house from you yeah yeah no exactly exactly yeah so yeah she went this was

00:23:05.840 a peek into the boomer

00:23:07.940 and the conclusion I'd come

00:23:09.860 to and you know I don't want to

00:23:11.860 rag on boomers too much because everyone does

00:23:13.740 everyone blames them for everything and we've talked about

00:23:15.800 this before but there was one

00:23:17.540 little development that

00:23:19.980 I realized that what might

00:23:21.960 sit at the core of my actual

00:23:23.820 frustration because I won't blame boomers for everything

00:23:25.960 I won't even blame them for most of the stuff

00:23:27.840 they're blamed on but there is a

00:23:29.800 behavior that they exhibit

00:23:31.160 that I don't see anyone else doing

00:23:33.460 it frustrates me and i see it every fucking day it's that i've never heard a boomer say the phrase

00:23:41.060 that's interesting tell me more i'd like to hear more i've never heard that like and the thing with

00:23:48.000 your dad and i like your dad i'm on great terms with your father yeah i don't want that to sit

00:23:52.340 on my shoulders here i love my dad my dad's fucking awesome so this is just like the reason

00:23:56.920 i told this story is because it blew me away it totally blew me out of the water i had no idea

00:24:01.080 this was coming so it's like oh wow i actually disagree with my dad for once in like 10 years

00:24:05.180 this is a boomer thing my grandfather was like this my grandmother's like this where like they

00:24:09.220 they know it they know what it is they know the story you are describing a situation that you are

00:24:14.860 living through you've got data you've got examples you've got stories and narratives about what it's

00:24:20.120 like out there they've never done that they've a lot of them have been retired or they're about

00:24:24.520 to retire they've got their fingers so far off the pulse of what's going on but at no point did

00:24:30.200 they say, let me tell me more about what you're going through, because I don't know.

00:24:34.600 A boomer has never said that.

00:24:36.500 They have no interest in accumulating new information.

00:24:40.200 And oftentimes, if you give them information, they'll shut off.

00:24:42.840 They just don't want to hear it.

00:24:44.200 And maybe that's an age thing that they're full of information they can't take in anymore.

00:24:48.080 But that doesn't stop them from having these shit opinions anyway.

00:24:52.180 You know what?

00:24:52.460 It's interesting to put that in the context of blaming the boomers.

00:24:55.120 I had this exact conversation with Bob, with my wife, just a couple of weeks ago.

00:24:59.540 and you're talking about her parents who are like we've been down this road with them for a long

00:25:04.860 time because we were totally opposite so we don't agree with them on anything but the conclusion

00:25:09.600 that we came to wasn't so much that it's that generation because they aren't they're the they're

00:25:15.080 aged that they could be boomers but they're not boomers because they only moved to this country

00:25:20.160 25 years ago or 30 years ago like they were raised in a completely different country which

00:25:25.520 didn't experience the baby boom so they're actually like they were from an area where there

00:25:29.900 were very few children because it was there was poverty there in the 1960s and 70s and famine

00:25:34.160 actually so it's very different for them but anyways the point is is we given that they aren't

00:25:40.020 boomers and it was the exact same thing we're kind of saying it might just be for you and i

00:25:45.940 and my wife in argent in our age range 30 to 40 now we're having kids now we're forming families

00:25:53.040 Maybe this is just the natural process of not handing the torch because that's the point.

00:25:58.920 They never hand the torch.

00:26:00.460 We take the torch.

00:26:02.480 Now we run the family.

00:26:03.780 And there's no point where they just say, you know, I'm giving you the keys.

00:26:08.060 Now you're the head of the family.

00:26:09.920 I always thought that would happen, but I don't think that happens.

00:26:13.320 Maybe somebody else, it's happened to them.

00:26:15.480 But for me, what we're seeing is, and we're talked about this specifically in the case of her parents, this is our family now.

00:26:21.100 they think they're looking after us they have no fucking clue what's going on we're the ones

00:26:25.740 looking after them and and increasingly with my own parents like i'm the one who actually knows

00:26:31.620 what's going on very soon i'm going to be the one looking out for you because you're going to get

00:26:36.060 taken advantage of this is something i also said in the chat where i can't i don't have any special

00:26:41.320 insight into their thinking on this but with boomers i get the sense that they have a sense

00:26:48.040 of how stupid they are and not in those terms but they i think they get the sense that the world is

00:26:54.820 scary now that they don't understand what's going on they kind of feel like they have alzheimer's

00:26:59.400 even if they don't where it's like they hear young people talking about things that they don't

00:27:03.640 understand that they'd never thought about before like i've talked about this before and we'll get

00:27:07.660 on to this um in the future a few episodes when we talk about economics we do a real big arc on

00:27:13.600 that but the frustration of talking to like my in-laws and them talk like i came we we both came

00:27:21.360 from the same type of upbringing where they have a poor person's understanding of money so their

00:27:26.800 thing is like never be in debt being in debt equals bad have savings hoard money um and so

00:27:32.300 their thing is like you'll just put everything into a mutual fund put everything into your rsp

00:27:36.740 or 401k and their understanding of that is well i put money in so i have to get more money out

00:27:41.660 that's the deal i made like you actually don't know how an rsp or a 401k works you don't

00:27:48.280 understand like you don't understand how a bank works you understand how fractional reserve

00:27:51.960 banking works you understand like where your money goes that and then they came to me when

00:27:57.320 covid was sp because they're looking at their retirement fund and it went down it's not supposed

00:28:01.940 to go down i put money in it's just supposed to be safe there's no fucking safe money that doesn't

00:28:06.660 make sense that's how fucking banks work and you should have learned that during the financial

00:28:10.380 collapse but i don't think you were paying attention i don't think they understood what

00:28:15.500 that was i don't think most boomers did maybe the boomers who run banks but there's but then you're

00:28:21.200 i'm watching fucking these politicians like diane feinstein and these other like old old people in

00:28:27.900 congress old senators old politicians literally standing in front of cameras and their brains

00:28:32.780 are melting out their fucking noses yeah there has been ongoing discourse around sort of the

00:28:38.780 median age of lawmakers today, and I know there was even a moment involving California Senator

00:28:43.660 Dianne Feinstein that is getting a lot of attention just today, where another senator

00:28:47.600 appeared to tell Feinstein to, quote, just say A during a vote. First, take a look.

00:28:53.880 It funds priorities submitted. Yeah, just say I. Okay, just I. Thank you.

00:29:05.240 Tonight, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell speaking out about a health scare earlier

00:29:10.780 today where he froze for about 30 seconds during a news conference.

00:29:14.960 Here's what he just told reporters.

00:29:16.300 The president called to check on me.

00:29:20.300 I told him I got sandbagged.

00:29:22.180 Oh, nice.

00:29:23.180 How are you feeling now, sir?

00:29:25.180 How are you feeling now?

00:29:26.180 I'm fine.

00:29:27.180 Have you seen a doctor?

00:29:28.180 Are you going to see him?

00:29:29.180 Any idea what happened?

00:29:30.180 Huh?

00:29:31.180 Any idea what happened?

00:29:32.180 I'm fine.

00:29:33.180 That's the important part.

00:29:34.180 Dehydrated?

00:29:35.180 those sandbags and no one knows what to do why are these people here there's been like three cases

00:29:41.720 in the last week yeah they didn't pass the torch they don't know how i think they're scared i don't

00:29:46.560 think they know what they're doing and they're literally collapsing on tv and we're sweeping

00:29:51.780 boomers out i thought there would be a graceful exit and there's not they're just these like

00:29:56.600 timid scared people and nick rochefort on his one of his um real estate streams like he does the

00:30:03.440 best impression of boomers i can think of because especially in real estate in the frame that he's

00:30:08.380 talking about it because like in real estate like boomers with these houses they're always like

00:30:13.040 panic selling they're always like i gotta get out of town they gotta sell sell now and these are the

00:30:18.620 people you can take advantage of but i'm like there's something about this generation like

00:30:21.280 you're always like dumping you're always running you're always like we got to get out i wonder if

00:30:26.400 just not to figure out the reasons right is it possible that the context that they came from

00:30:33.800 where everything was easy and it was growth time and it was boom time and even the dumb ones

00:30:38.740 succeeded then when they're old it's very hard for anything not to oppress them so like if they're

00:30:46.240 going to hand the torch like if the the retiring ceo of the company is going to hand down to his

00:30:50.440 son he's always going to look at his millennial son and be like you're nothing like me you'll

00:30:55.420 never you know you'll never you've never achieved what i've achieved by the time i was your age i'd

00:31:00.020 already built this company but it's like yeah but you were it was handed to you on a silver platter

00:31:05.140 can i also say something you touched on there that's this isn't what exactly what you're saying

00:31:09.300 but it's related that another thing i noticed with boomers and it's only them and i don't think

00:31:15.120 their parents did this and they would have been i think the greatest generation but maybe that's

00:31:20.280 the official name which is a bit pretentious but i think boomers as far as i know were the first

00:31:26.820 generation who didn't see their children as clones of them like they could see them as just you're a

00:31:33.180 failure you're nothing like me whereas when we look at our children obviously that they can't

00:31:38.580 not be like me it doesn't make sense to say that they're not like me they're literally my genetic

00:31:43.720 clone a clone of you and your fucking wife but boomers had this thing in their minds where it's

00:31:48.440 like i got i got some bad kids it's like they're you a lot of times it's your negative characteristics

00:31:54.520 but there's something in the boomer mind that never makes that fucking connection that like

00:31:59.380 the failures of their kids are also their failures but they i don't like i don't know it's a strange

00:32:04.540 way to look at the world i think it was their parents fault partially for not bringing them up

00:32:10.360 during the boom times and not not saying this is a very special magical period you're so so lucky

00:32:17.440 to live now and this has never happened before in history and it's going to end soon but i don't

00:32:22.520 think they even knew that the parents my grandparents for example i think they thought

00:32:27.160 this was the dawning of a new age the end of history and it was all going to be fine from

00:32:30.800 after world war ii it's easier to think like maybe we're maybe we can actually never have wars again

00:32:35.200 right but the thing is is by the time by the time my parents or boomers were even in their

00:32:41.220 20s or 30s like just before they before they had me around the time when they had me

00:32:45.300 we already had like the oil crisis and a huge recession and all kinds of like iran contra was

00:32:52.820 like there's all kinds of nasty shit the cold war it's not like it was the end of history so they

00:32:58.300 they should have kind of known but it seems like even 40 50 years ago they were already things

00:33:04.700 were already sliding and they were already starting to cope so it's not like it happened

00:33:09.480 overnight like that's a good point because this is a generation that was raised afraid of nuclear

00:33:13.760 war at any moment weren't they right right and and it's funny because that even leads into

00:33:19.280 like the whole uphill in the snow both ways thing like oh well when i was a kid we had we had the

00:33:24.880 constant threat of nuclear war you don't have to deal with that it's like what are you talking

00:33:28.400 about yes we do do you think do you think we're not under the constant threat of nuclear everyone

00:33:33.160 in the world has been under the constant threat of nuclear annihilation since the invention of

00:33:37.060 the atom bomb since the second world war like just because the cold war ended doesn't mean the

00:33:41.260 chinese aren't going to hit us with with like hypersonic missiles so it's right it's like we

00:33:46.360 all live under the constant threat of nuclear war you motherfuckers were the only generation

00:33:50.620 thought you could survive it you thought you could like outrun a nuke you thought all kinds

00:33:54.000 of weird shit yeah you got under the desks like you would survive it's like no we we've internalized

00:33:59.640 that if the nukes start flying we're all gonna die right if we survive we're gonna wish we were

00:34:04.480 dead we've all seen threads their popular media is all about the the plucky survivor who rebuild

00:34:09.800 society our popular media is about making peace with your god so i like i'm hoping i at least get

00:34:16.940 last pick of the prostitutes who are also you know like diseased and mutated yeah that's you

00:34:25.200 know haha in in we've already internalized that in that new world order it's still going to be

00:34:30.520 jews again like we gotta fucking deal with this shit we gotta deal with the exact we're eating

00:34:36.760 the exact same food though we're still eating zog chow after the nukes fall probably uh yeah they

00:34:44.080 don't want to get up on a whole uh boomer thing that that just happened i followed my heart i

00:34:49.060 followed my balls here we go but there is a big news story that i want to get to and this is a

00:34:54.600 developing story uh and you just heard about this for the show and there's not much to say but i

00:34:59.720 really wanted to talk about it it's justin trudeau and his wife are separated

00:35:04.660 kill yourself

00:35:12.380 nice rip in peace bozo gotta go fast you know what i saw and i didn't understand it i saw a joke

00:35:23.440 on np's channel about how he's been kicked out of the house and he's staying at the motel down

00:35:30.280 the street eating craft dinner out of a tin and watching wrestlemania till 3 a.m and we couldn't

00:35:36.460 be more proud of him like yeah but i thought that was just i thought that was just a bit

00:35:40.760 okay first of all those are all cool things that he wouldn't do well that's the joke is like

00:35:45.640 actually he's cool now he actually like a pissed off divorced guy like getting day drinking i would

00:35:53.740 like that trudeau wouldn't be great if this this is the thing that pushes him over the edge and he

00:35:57.580 goes full Joker. I would love it. I'm looking for a Justin Trudeau anti-woman redemption arc.

00:36:06.500 Last seen publicly together on Canada Day, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife,

00:36:11.840 Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, broke the news also together with two matching statements on their

00:36:17.300 Instagram accounts. After many meaningful and difficult conversations, we have made the decision

00:36:22.800 to separate as always we remain a close family with deep love and respect for each other

00:36:28.360 news of their breakup spread quickly because okay no one knows why they separated and here's the

00:36:35.780 thing we won't we probably won't know and if we do know it's a shit storm because we're not

00:36:44.160 supposed to know if we get an inkling like the fact that we knew that pierre trudeau his father

00:36:50.860 his wife was such a whore um and that the whole rumor about fidel castro being his father was

00:36:57.660 that everyone understood that pierre prime minister pierre trudeau's wife was an absolute

00:37:03.460 fucking bottom of the barrel bitch slut like running around there's pictures pictures of her

00:37:10.040 vagina but back like in public in the library the archives of canada there's pictures of wife's

00:37:17.100 vagina in an era where you had to work a lot harder to get a photograph of a vagina let me

00:37:21.920 tell you to get look to get any photograph into those archives is tough so the fact that there's

00:37:26.900 multiple photos of yeah it's for the context it was a photo of her sitting on the floor front row

00:37:33.860 of a lecture of something and she had her nose so and she was dressed but it was kind of like a

00:37:40.760 basic instinct thing where you just saw like a full full-on shot of her vagina which just meant

00:37:46.520 she didn't wear panties in public to a library which is worse which is worse than doing porn

00:37:52.380 woman alert like she wanted to be seen anyway that's who we're talking about here we're not

00:37:58.000 supposed to know that the public should have no idea why people divorce if we do that means that

00:38:03.160 it's bad yeah now here's what i saw i saw a video of india's jagmeet singh

00:38:12.500 uh he was fielding some questions from an audience member and the video was the audience member

00:38:19.400 saying something about trudeau saying will you denounce trudeau and then jagmeet singh says

00:38:25.280 you're homophobic

00:38:27.080 and then the guy in the crowd says you're peace

00:38:42.480 of shit he's a piece of shit i love that i love it is jack mickson gay i mean looks gay but no

00:38:47.360 he was saying this person was homophobic for criticizing trudeau what so the here this is

00:38:54.940 all speculation at this point but it's almost not because everyone's had their suspicions that

00:38:59.640 justin trudeau is gay or bisexual and see i was going to make the joke that the reason they

00:39:04.520 divorced is because he's transitioning but maybe that's not so far off mark go tell someone that

00:39:10.220 justin true's bisexual and look at the expression on their face tell them that he is he came out as

00:39:15.440 gay today what what do they say are they flabbergasted the people who voted for me like yes

00:39:21.280 and yeah so what oh yeah i thought i thought he did that already i thought he seems to have more

00:39:28.660 photo ops at pride parades than anywhere else yeah he's the guy who seeks out pride parades

00:39:34.640 in weird small towns where they don't even want to have the pride parade they were just threatened

00:39:39.600 by the federal yeah it really does is he our first gay black prime minister we

00:39:46.200 you know he's our first like he he really was our version of obama wasn't he yeah

00:39:53.260 but uh like that it seems to be an open secret like i bet there's words circling around within

00:40:02.800 the house of commons and the senate that okay everyone knows because you see him and his wife

00:40:10.180 together in public they're very cold to each other so either they're just in the most miserable

00:40:15.320 marriage ever or he's actually just gay this is just a big show which i could i could believe

00:40:21.200 but also i don't know it seems like a thing that he would try and and ride the wave of you know

00:40:28.640 what i mean like he's justin trudeau of the liberal party of canada like being gay could

00:40:33.040 only help him so i don't know i'm on the fence about but so is john travolta john travolta

00:40:38.620 is gay there's rumor everyone knows he's gay but he's never come out as gay but he's an actor in

00:40:44.720 hollywood in fucking 2023 like it's there's no safer place to be so i don't know why people

00:40:50.940 that maybe it's just a weird thing of theirs but you see like old shit like trudeau is also just

00:40:56.860 not a real person that's the thing about him and some people were saying you know it's

00:41:01.940 there's a fever pitch of people who are anti-trudeau which is fine enough fuck trudeau

00:41:09.100 bumper i see fuck trudeau bumper stickers all over the place where i'm at and i've seen yeah

00:41:13.920 up i've seen him go up over the years but my position was always i kind of like having him

00:41:20.640 there because imagine the damage a competent liberal could do you know the fact that he is

00:41:25.800 so hated and so inept so clearly inept and such a goofball that he can't really do anything

00:41:33.160 no one takes him seriously and you know that means that's an opportunity for maybe people

00:41:39.200 like us whereas if there was a more machiavellian intelligent guy that could be worse i've heard

00:41:44.240 that before i've heard that before and i've thought about that because it's been said about

00:41:48.100 biden too and i disagree and the reason i disagree i would agree if you have this weird situation

00:41:54.660 where the guy's totally incompetent and brain dead and is also making all of the executive

00:41:59.880 decisions so it's just like throwing darts at a board but the truth of it is more likely in the

00:42:04.980 case of trudeau and biden that he really is just a puppet which is to say he is brain dead but he's

00:42:10.780 not making any of the decisions and the reason you have a brain dead puppet there is because you know

00:42:14.820 he's probably going to get i'm not gonna he won't get i'm not gonna use a mean phrase but he's not

00:42:22.780 going to he's not going to live very long after he's out of office i don't think either because

00:42:26.960 of us or because of his own people and that's probably by design i think the things that

00:42:32.120 they've been doing in they i mean the people that are running the show from behind that they've been

00:42:36.620 doing during his term are going to permanently destroy him he might kill himself and i think

00:42:42.560 that's probably the way it's meant to be same with joe i think joe biden was offered some fucking

00:42:47.340 deal to run and told in advance that he was going to win and knowing that it's going to completely

00:42:52.300 destroy his career and credibility by being president and he just took it for whatever i

00:42:57.740 don't know what they offered him but like joe is joe should be in an old age home honestly that

00:43:02.460 that's the hunter biden angle maybe you know i'm not we haven't really discussed the whole hunter

00:43:06.700 biden laptop almost you know we could but there seems to be more validity to the rumors and the

00:43:15.660 conspiracies involving hunter biden and his dealings and the backroom deals and that could be

00:43:21.740 it you know they honestly they're like okay you're gonna you're you're sunsetting mr biden

00:43:28.800 do you want to just be president and but i think i think it like if you have a left-wing like a

00:43:34.780 democrat or a liberal pm and he has all of the worst possible ideas about about trans rights and

00:43:42.420 about gays and immigration but at the end of the day he personally thinks about his career and his

00:43:47.480 future and reelection he's going to throw a bone to the right you know what i mean but trudeau has

00:43:54.400 never done that if anything he's always consistently doubled down he's made moves that are so

00:44:00.580 inflammatory that we're all wondering like do they does he want us to just find him at night

00:44:06.880 like i don't understand how you can be so outrageously inflammatory and partisan but the

00:44:13.560 what would make sense is he's not these aren't his decisions he just works there right that could be

00:44:20.460 because like you said like we're just talking about actually was that everyone hates him nobody

00:44:25.860 oh yeah people hate and i think it's hard for americans to maybe understand or maybe not because

00:44:30.880 i don't live in the states but it seems to me people in canada hate trudeau at least as much

00:44:36.280 as people in the states broadly hate trump in terms of like how often you see you would see

00:44:42.580 like fuck trump flags on the backs of trucks like literally just in my small town just on the street

00:44:49.240 that i dropped the girls off for daycare there's three driveways in a row that have variations on

00:44:55.240 fuck trudeau either on their truck or hanging from their garage let me tell you this here's how you

00:44:59.660 know how disliked trudeau is is that us on the contrarian right are trying to find ways to like

00:45:06.580 him i'm trying to turn it around we're losing control of the situation yeah actually we love

00:45:15.160 nato and we love trudeau maybe and like again maybe he's actually a really cool rocking joker

00:45:20.600 dude now that he's divorced maybe we'll see hey actually this ukraine war is going great

00:45:26.340 uh for ukraine and actually i love i love zelensky i've seen that we didn't we didn't

00:45:31.840 need that military budget we weren't using it there's one kind of wrap up i wanted to do

00:45:37.740 in reference to the last episode we got to talking about alien stuff um and i a video

00:45:43.280 had come across my desk that was i people were saying it was recent but it was actually from

00:45:49.380 like 2013 and it was a canadian like house of commons guy i believe who was like claiming that

00:45:57.740 he had a message from extraterrestrials if you'll indulge me i'd like to read two pages from advice

00:46:04.940 from the extraterrestrials yes it's true that we have been in contact with your government and heads

00:46:11.820 of power it is also true that we have been in con it is also true that agreements have been made and

00:46:18.060 kept secret from your people it is also true that in the past some of your people have lost their

00:46:23.660 lives or have been badly hurt to protect the secret.

00:46:29.720 Our hands had no part in this.

00:46:33.500 We contacted your leaders because your planet is in

00:46:36.060 grave trouble.

00:46:38.000 Your leaders said the vast majority of your population

00:46:40.900 wasn't ready for anything like us yet.

00:46:45.360 So we made time agreements with your leaders as to when

00:46:48.520 your people would be made aware of our presence,

00:46:52.120 Your air, your water are contaminated.

00:46:56.160 Your forests, jungles, trees, and plant life are dying.

00:47:01.520 There are several breaks in your food chain.

00:47:04.660 You have an overwhelming amount of nuclear and biological weapons,

00:47:08.940 which include nuclear and biological contamination.

00:47:12.940 Your planet is overpopulated.

00:47:15.980 Warning, it is almost to the point of being too late,

00:47:20.920 unless your people act.

00:47:23.860 There are better ways of deriving energy

00:47:26.760 and food needs without causing your planet any damage.

00:47:31.580 And he was reading it,

00:47:32.460 and this was like an official statement.

00:47:35.260 And he was saying that the message from the aliens

00:47:37.920 is that we're overpopulated,

00:47:39.340 we have to decrease the population.

00:47:40.680 So the narrative going around in conspiracy circles was,

00:47:44.060 oh, this is the Project Blue Beam thing,

00:47:46.280 oh, they're not even trying now,

00:47:47.500 or something like the competency crisis

00:47:50.400 that's hit psyops you know that sort of shit but um a thought occurred to me that i didn't get to

00:47:56.760 talk about on the last episode because we we like to explore every angle to the conspiracy and i

00:48:01.800 think we've settled on we've settled on ones that we like that don't involve they're actually being

00:48:06.380 aliens but uh the one that i was thinking of and this will lead us into our next story

00:48:11.660 is that alien disclosure could be used as like a like a form of cocaine for nerds and scientists

00:48:23.800 there was like it's this idea that like why would they be disclosing all this stuff

00:48:28.500 why would they be pumping out this news and it's to like you know bewitch the masses and whatnot

00:48:35.520 I'm like, well, let's think of this from a completely cynical power perspective of the government. Maybe they let's speculate that maybe they decided that whenever aliens are in the news and alien technology is being discussed, it has the unintended or intended consequence of getting all of our scientists to start thinking new, exciting things.

00:49:00.880 so like this is just me coming up with bullshit of course but it's like

00:49:05.100 maybe the government figured out like hey every time we start talking alien disclosure

00:49:09.240 all of our labs are a twitter with these dorks who are start talking to each other about you

00:49:15.760 know they just heard that oh uh you know how do alien craft work oh it's gravity manipulation

00:49:21.160 huh maybe maybe we should try something with gravity manipulation or maybe that inspires

00:49:25.120 some young students to look into that it's like it's almost like a it's parallel to pop culture

00:49:30.760 it's used like pop culture but it's legitimized for the government so it's like it's a way for

00:49:35.680 governments to supercharge their their science sector to come up with new ideas that's interesting

00:49:42.720 just like how we we were speculating that you know a lot of these tests these these craft

00:49:49.440 sightings like the white pills could be sort of wink and nudge messages to governments around the

00:49:55.740 world i look at the technology we have we're not saying we have it but look this is an american

00:49:59.540 territory and it can go real fast and go underwater that's kind of fucking insane that's

00:50:05.540 never existed before so like this could be like a strange test done by the government to

00:50:12.040 have to to cause something else geopolitically it's not kooky i think the underlying

00:50:18.540 principle you'd have to prove that it wasn't happening in terms of like as a as a function

00:50:24.480 you know what i mean like obviously this being in the news is going to cause a buzz in those labs

00:50:30.200 so whether or not the primary purpose of the project blue beam is to get the labs buzzing i

00:50:37.160 don't think so but i'm sure it comes up in the in the in the focus groups i'm sure they've noticed

00:50:44.360 it was just one idea that crossed my mind about why let's think of reasons why this might happen

00:50:50.360 well here's a reason and maybe it is that maybe like once you think of like that i'm like yeah

00:50:54.440 that would probably happen and anyway and that was leading into the next story that maybe this

00:51:01.740 is with a purpose which was the development of this lk99 uh miracle material they're calling

00:51:08.600 you've heard about this right a lot of people have been chattering about this i have not been

00:51:14.460 up to date on all the superconductor news apparently there's a lot of people who are

00:51:19.900 buzzing about this but then also anti-buzzing about it saying you know don't get too excited

00:51:25.420 yet because they've been following these stories forever and i haven't so i had no idea what was

00:51:30.960 going on completely out of the loop but i know you're more of a techno tech minded guy the

00:51:37.080 tantalizing thing about superconductors is we do have them right we've had them for i think since

00:51:43.580 the 1950s but they require extremely expensive materials they require very low temperatures and

00:51:52.520 very high pressures to operate but when they operate they do just like crazy things and one

00:51:57.540 of the things i want to touch on is they do you can actually there's theories that you could use

00:52:02.460 them to affect gravity there's a lot of things that you can do with superconductors right aside

00:52:07.020 from just conducting with zero resistance which is the the primary definition of it as far as i

00:52:11.480 knows it allows something to conduct with essentially zero resistance resistance is when

00:52:16.540 when current passes through a conductor and doesn't create heat or otherwise lose energy

00:52:21.980 through interaction with material so that is like you think of that you could for example

00:52:26.700 transmit power over long distances through cables and there was no power lost um or like like even

00:52:32.800 anyways i don't want to get into a whole technical i'll explain like what i had read was they're like

00:52:37.060 oh energy transfer goes through wires like copper and normally the electrons passing through

00:52:44.260 are knocking against each other and there's energy loss however if you can cool it um

00:52:51.500 these conductors then the energy passes very very fast you just need to have them brought down to a

00:52:57.980 low enough temperature for it to happen which is impractical for most purposes you can't just have

00:53:03.260 all this like liquid nitrogen but mri machines are famous for using them like the particle

00:53:08.200 accelerators use it there's applications for it that we already use it and and so the thing is

00:53:12.740 and this is the reason why i think it's more of a news story than it might otherwise be or maybe

00:53:18.660 not maybe it's less of a news story it's less important but the point is there's those three

00:53:22.340 things that i mentioned the cost or rarity of the materials the temperature and the pressure

00:53:26.580 when people talk previously up until this week talk about room temperature superconductors

00:53:31.240 They're talking about something that's the technological equivalent of cold fusion, like it's it's civilizational, it's going to change everything into the future. And while we're talking about is eliminating one of those three problems, like if we could have something that operated at room temperature, but still required high temperatures and expensive materials, that would already be earth shattering.

00:53:52.020 but to my understanding what the koreans claim they've built is something that operates at room

00:53:58.060 temperature at ambient pressure and uses like basic coop rates in in like normal lab shit like

00:54:04.840 you could reproduce this in like a low-level university lab and that's part of the reason

00:54:09.720 or you should be able to you should be able to which is what has been happening and they've had

00:54:14.500 some difficulty replicating it and that's kind of and a lot of false positives and people saying

00:54:19.220 we've replicated it and it's like all right show us your notes and then uh crickets yeah so there's

00:54:24.400 even some people on twitch in labs who are doing it and like live streaming it and that's you know

00:54:29.880 this is the article i'm reading yahoo news it says lk99 that's what's known as excitement rises

00:54:36.120 over possibly over possibly revolutionary miracle material but there's still no good reason to

00:54:41.400 believe it exists so it was created by koreans we like koreans okay well everything koreans make

00:54:50.020 is fake so it's kind of lines up true then it was verified by another country china i don't know

00:54:58.040 you know if it was japan now you have my attention yeah if it was what's another good one what's

00:55:06.100 another good asian country it might just be japan it's just japan singapore no say if singapore

00:55:13.680 came up with something or like if singapore told me that they stole it and that it worked i'd

00:55:19.440 believe it yeah they found it in one of their markets um so like they had they said it was

00:55:25.360 confirmed but then there's all these labs across the world in india switzerland in america you

00:55:30.940 can't replicate it so everyone's like hold off and out and apparently this there's been claims

00:55:36.360 over the decades that this miracle material has been found because everyone knows kind of what

00:55:42.440 to look for they know what they want to find and so and part of the application of it is because

00:55:48.040 you know it's out oh it's a new type of superconductor what does that mean um it can

00:55:52.020 revolutionize energy transfer it could you know some you had mentioned cold fusion but

00:55:57.140 one of the the thing that keeps getting brought up in our circles is new types of trains

00:56:04.160 like oh you can have like a mag train of some kind i don't know what that is but

00:56:10.520 what i hear when i hear that what i assume is some kind of fancy train that you that doesn't

00:56:16.480 go on a track and it uses magnetism and just flies around like a rail gun or something also

00:56:22.200 how you can make really low hanging fruit yeah but yeah like there's it's kind of like with

00:56:27.340 with transistors if you imagine when transistors were invented they're like oh we can make a

00:56:33.060 a telegraph that can transmit more than four characters per minute we might even be able to

00:56:38.920 50 characters per minute and then a generation later we have the fucking internet and dealing

00:56:43.740 with 5g and our entire universe revolves around digital communications so that's that's the kind

00:56:50.060 of thing it's like the equivalent of an improved telegraph would be oh trains but they float and

00:56:55.400 go a little faster i mean like no we're going to be living in orbital rings and talking to our

00:57:01.000 aunts and uncles in the lagrange points in 50 years it's like they used to think you just send

00:57:05.740 an extra couple characters flash forward to now it's like i have a ball cancer they haven't

00:57:10.080 discovered yet what from all this stuff that's beamed into human iq globally has dropped by 25

00:57:18.760 and half of us no longer have testicles what is happening everyone is dumber but our minds

00:57:24.620 have never been more weaponized we have they made us retarded but we have telekinetic powers

00:57:29.260 okay but yeah so i i'm reading this and everyone's like this is going to change everything we tend

00:57:37.760 to there's very few things that get our side of things excited but this was one of them

00:57:42.420 um and then there's a guy on twitter andrew coat he's superconducting magna engineer chiming in

00:57:48.200 uh this could be very big news and overnight revolutionize all of electronics and energy

00:57:52.820 it might not and he goes through like all the the graphs and data points here uh but like you

00:57:59.020 had said you know when people say this will revolutionize if if it were to come to pass

00:58:03.380 like that is how you need to think about it you need to think of like think of how insane things

00:58:08.140 can get like how does that also change politics how does that change trade how does that change

00:58:12.780 transportation but you know in our scene everything comes back to trains and i want to

00:58:19.200 say something right now this is a bit of a tangent i want to hear what you say about this

00:58:23.040 because this was a contentious issue in our chat over the past few weeks oh no there's a very strong

00:58:31.960 train contingent in our in our scene right now right uh and friend of the show member of the

00:58:40.280 blood satellite expanded universe

00:58:42.000 clossington he's a big train

00:58:44.300 guy loves trains knows a lot

00:58:46.300 about trains we'll talk to you all day about

00:58:48.300 how american room was

00:58:50.260 that has he got the syndrome

00:58:51.860 he's got down syndrome

00:58:53.560 in the sense

00:58:56.420 that we all do yeah

00:58:58.060 you know he doesn't have

00:59:00.260 down syndrome we all down with the clown

00:59:02.140 syndrome

00:59:02.600 all right fair enough um but you know he'll go on forever about how america fucked over its

00:59:21.080 training we're letting our or america rather is letting its rail lines just decay um and america

00:59:28.920 has been propagandized into being anti-train which is all all true and um there's a case we

00:59:35.160 made that at one point you know in the hit film who framed roger rabbit that was a real story

00:59:41.540 about how there was like a an ideological war between public transit and a highway system

00:59:47.420 and they're both vying for what was going to kind of dominate interstate travel and eventually the

00:59:52.340 highway system one it's a whole thing and that that is true my take and you tell me if i'm way

00:59:59.160 off on this my take is that public transit and like this idea that everything can be just rail

01:00:06.840 lines everywhere that was never really going to take off in america and not in the sense that it

01:00:13.100 would replace cars that's what we're talking about that oh everyone uses a car everyone is forced to

01:00:17.700 have a car you need a car to get around because everything's so far apart and the highway system

01:00:22.000 almost forces you to have a gas guzzling vehicle and that is because of propaganda that is because

01:00:27.500 of some other thing but just i don't know my gut feeling is that i don't see america and i don't

01:00:35.080 even see canada as the type of people who are going to be like i want to take trains everywhere

01:00:40.940 i really do think that there's something in the identity in the psyche that desires private

01:00:46.900 ownership over a mode of transportation and that no matter how many trains you get there's still

01:00:52.500 places that need trucks pickup trucks like you're never going to train yourself out of people

01:00:58.940 needing like pickup trucks in like the midland area or in canada you know what i mean like am

01:01:04.780 i crazy for saying that or what do you think no but i i think i don't i'm not saying you are saying

01:01:10.640 this but i think there are people that take that exact argument to the point of a straw man

01:01:15.640 and accuse the public transit advocates

01:01:20.700 of wanting to get rid of all private ownership of vehicles.

01:01:23.760 There certainly are people like Gavin Newsom

01:01:27.120 who want to get rid of all privately owned vehicles

01:01:29.460 and everything should be...

01:01:30.620 If they're single cars, they're ride shares,

01:01:33.180 and everything else is public transit,

01:01:34.560 that's fucking retarded.

01:01:36.100 But public transit isn't that.

01:01:38.880 Public transit is just a more efficient use of space and fuel

01:01:41.780 in urban areas.

01:01:43.220 That's really what it is.

01:01:44.100 And I, and largely like, first of all, the rail kind of built the West, like you, the U S as it exists, part of the building blocks of the original nation was a rail system because you can't take a covered wagon back and forth with fucking coal to the cities. You need rail. Now, after the internal combustion engine, sure. Now there's a competition and there's a place for cars and trucks and there's a place for rail.

01:02:09.680 I'll give you an example because this comes up all the time where it's like public transit is only good for cities, but it's not good in ruralities.

01:02:16.940 But the thing is, most of our own province where we live, the northern part of it is serviced at distance only by rail.

01:02:24.720 If you want to go to anywhere north of Nipissing, there's no roads.

01:02:30.340 There's fire routes and logging roads, which are not traversable by a family car.

01:02:33.820 If you want to go up there, you have to put your car on a fucking sleeper and send it up and then get it off the train.

01:02:41.480 And then you can drive around up in Hudson's Bay.

01:02:43.460 But if you live in Hudson's Bay, all the cars there got there by rail and you can't drive out of that place.

01:02:50.360 So, and again, that works because it's so fucking far and the land is all muskeg and trash.

01:02:56.980 So it makes sense to put a rail.

01:02:58.500 So there are places where rail will always make sense.

01:03:01.520 and especially with our culture there's places where private vehicles will always make sense

01:03:05.780 and i think people it's kind of like uh like uh it's not a mac windows thing it's like a pc versus

01:03:13.160 like unix bank teller thing like the one's very functional and one's very personal and they don't

01:03:20.120 really have to compete like you can almost kind of do both so see everyone take note that's a good

01:03:25.100 way you know that's the proper way to tell me that i'm wrong it's kind of over and make me feel

01:03:32.620 like you're not telling me no you're right no no here's the thing that that did prove me wrong

01:03:37.880 and i appreciate the candor i appreciate the gentleness he laid me down like a strip of bacon

01:03:45.600 with that one and i appreciate toronto toronto using the gta as an example they're always like

01:03:50.640 we need to reduce like build bigger um like sidewalks on the boulevards reduce lanes cut

01:03:56.040 traffic and add more public transit no you don't in toronto what you need to do is take six million

01:04:01.300 people and send them back to their fucking home countries that's what you actually need to do

01:04:04.420 yes toronto i was hoping you had something like that coming it's built perfectly for cars and

01:04:09.220 there's already loads of public transit we have a pretty excellent subway system in terms of layout

01:04:13.080 if it would just be maintained we don't need more what we need is less people right and i think

01:04:18.260 that's true in a lot of places and there's other places that yeah maybe they need more buses but

01:04:24.080 the canada is there's there's most places in canada where there are cities like in

01:04:29.820 hudson's bay that are disconnected like large population centers that are far away they're

01:04:36.000 already serviced by rail and i don't think that more rail would necessarily help um there's

01:04:42.260 certain cases where it would and you should never get rid of the rail that you have but yeah i mean

01:04:47.160 unless this case i don't know like if if thunder bay ever had a million people they should definitely

01:04:51.660 put in a subway system i think there's guys that are like what i don't like is the guys who are

01:04:55.760 like the truck guys who are totally cool with you having like i'm i'm on the side of the people who

01:05:01.740 are not the the 15 minute cities but saying like look if i if i get an apartment in a mid-sized

01:05:08.240 city i should not have to walk 45 minutes across an eight lane highway and i should not have to

01:05:14.340 spend 30 minutes walking through black asphalt costco parking lots to get a fucking sandwich

01:05:19.060 right i should be able to buy a sandwich within the walk within walking distance of my house like

01:05:24.060 i should be able to see a sandwich shop for my house and part of the reason you can't is literally

01:05:28.480 parking lots and eight lane avenues that's that's it keep in mind that those parking lots are now

01:05:33.580 also effectively apartment buildings for people in their rvs they are which is it's a whole thing

01:05:40.700 that's building on it so there's i i'm not i'm not all about public transit but i am all about

01:05:46.400 getting getting rid of a lot of the cars that we have and it's like well judas you how do you get

01:05:50.800 rid of public transit and get rid of a lot of the cars and i always come back to the same thing you

01:05:55.680 just get rid of a lot of the people you don't need all these people you got extras give them away

01:06:01.240 you got extras they give you extra parts at the store you don't need them they're just taking up

01:06:07.360 space get rid of the lousy ones and you know keep the good ones this is the definition of the long

01:06:12.400 house it's big wife saying that of course why would they have this many people unless you

01:06:21.020 needed them and you gotta tell her they give you extras you can just send you extra you can throw

01:06:26.200 them out and when you're done building it you don't keep all of the extras in the drawer you

01:06:31.000 just throw them away use the drawer for something else immigration as a political issue is really

01:06:37.700 represented by the wife explaining to the husband that he uses too many paper towels

01:06:43.000 that you know we don't need to use too how about how about fuck off how about like it doesn't

01:06:50.240 matter how about none of this matters you want me to use them maybe you shouldn't have bought them

01:06:54.380 how about i want to use it once and throw it i don't need to reuse it that's so stupid i don't

01:06:59.820 use too many i use as many as i need to be comfortable and i should be comfortable the

01:07:06.120 wife of the plantation owner saying look you can't just whip all of the slaves to death like that

01:07:11.960 it's like look i'm i'm in the cotton picking business and if these slaves anyways i'm not

01:07:17.840 going to go down no but really though but really though they're mine i can do whatever i want

01:07:24.180 yeah if you didn't want me to whip them to death quit buying them don't come out here and fucking

01:07:30.040 nag me in front of them like here's the if if you want to tell me not to not to do something don't

01:07:36.140 tell me that that's what nagging is don't tell me to do it as i'm doing it wait until i'm in a

01:07:42.480 different state of mind you know post coitus something like that and then bring it get it

01:07:48.000 in the conversation don't just come at me with all this fucked up energy like here's the thing

01:07:53.300 you're doing now you're doing it wrong don't tell the next i'm gonna whip more slaves now the next

01:07:58.460 time the next time somebody tells you to not use so many paper towels you're just gonna whisper like

01:08:02.920 don't say that in front of them now i have to yeah don't subvert my authority in front of the

01:08:14.080 paper towels all right you know i just had a this whole topic about the lk9 i'm like what does this

01:08:22.200 mean for trains i also i also wanted to like i know you were already weaving all this together

01:08:29.580 but the idea kind of like predictive programming that we were already hearing all this shit about

01:08:35.180 aliens and now we're hearing about lk99 and we we just did review um asteroid city last week

01:08:43.980 and i was thinking about that in the in the car today that is it isn't it weird that a

01:08:48.720 a film which is about loss that includes an alien and the alien was kind of secondary

01:08:54.860 and was it was a theme but everybody was kind of kind of deal with that as an irritating thing on

01:09:02.020 the side where like dealt with their own personal shit yeah is if there are now apparently there's

01:09:06.980 aliens and what are we all we're all dealing with like existential social and economic crises

01:09:13.320 like isn't that that's if i've ever seen predictive programming it's that

01:09:17.640 is the fact that asteroid city was released like three weeks before the announcement of aliens

01:09:22.660 yeah and asteroid city make no mistake is made only for people like us it's a message to us it's

01:09:29.080 for like weird white guys and that's the only people who care about this lk99 thing i'm gonna

01:09:35.040 tell you right now it's white guys well and asian guys and indian guys i think indian guys care

01:09:39.820 about this but those are the only ones not a south american in existence that cares about this

01:09:45.420 because right now you're having a conversation i'm about to expect from this you know is it

01:09:50.540 going to be trains is it going to be trains versus trucks it's like no you need to wrap your head

01:09:55.120 around what it's gonna be is a portal to a different dimension version of yourself that

01:10:02.680 already has accomplished what you want so i want to go across canada to buy a sandwich i don't need

01:10:09.340 to take a train or a truck i use the portal to find the multiverse where i already have the

01:10:14.580 sandwich and reach out and i take it that's the mind-bending kill that guy you kill that dimes

01:10:19.500 you have to kill that dime you have to kill him and then you we achieve singularity through through

01:10:25.680 murder of convenience i actually i actually i like i like that as a story because it's it's the

01:10:31.280 boomer thing it's uh killing killing yourself killing yourself in in a way that you don't feel

01:10:37.840 in order to get some stupid petty convenience to just show off just to show off i get hey watch

01:10:45.200 this i'm gonna i'm gonna kill myself just a little bit for fun as a bit yeah i i like thinking of

01:10:51.880 things like that i like thinking of like how like how would this disrupt politics how would this

01:10:56.260 disrupt everything and um i guess how that unbalanced the world in a sense you know and

01:11:04.000 I really hope it's not real.

01:11:05.840 And you know what?

01:11:06.560 The fact that,

01:11:08.220 and this shouldn't bother me,

01:11:09.380 of course,

01:11:09.840 because who gives a shit,

01:11:10.680 but the fact that

01:11:11.420 if it is real,

01:11:13.180 that it was like Korea or China

01:11:15.660 that discovered it

01:11:16.460 and it wasn't America,

01:11:17.480 you would think it would be America.

01:11:19.900 You would think they'd been

01:11:20.540 on the cutting edge

01:11:21.160 of everything like this.

01:11:22.480 And if they were beaten

01:11:23.520 to the punch

01:11:24.200 by someone else,

01:11:25.640 that to me sends a signal

01:11:27.300 to the entire world

01:11:28.280 that America's not the place

01:11:30.160 you go for

01:11:30.900 that sort of thing anymore.

01:11:34.000 that and that in itself is almost one of to me as racist as it sounds is one of the reasons why i

01:11:39.980 think it's not real is like how many patents does like south korea is not even that big

01:11:43.980 and like per head how many patents do they even file it's not that many it's mostly in the states

01:11:49.060 in europe so the fact like for them to patent anything important is the kind of rare for them

01:11:56.300 to patent like the next transistor eh it honestly just seems like reach blue beam take your pick

01:12:04.940 the fact that's not coming out of mit is suspicious yeah right or like los alamos or

01:12:11.180 where wherever you know yeah like imagine india saying they discovered it no one would believe it

01:12:17.660 people here's here's one for you and this is we've already kind of said this but to bring it home

01:12:22.580 The guy at the congressional hearing talking about how they're doing material science studies of all these craft, and all of the other leaks that we've had aside from that are all saying that the alien craft are using different types of gravity manipulation, and all of it comes back to what? Material science. It's not magic. They have specific material science that allows them to manipulate EM waves in different fundamental fields in ways that we don't know how.

01:12:48.040 and that's all this is that's what a superconductor is it's material science so like i guess my point

01:12:54.760 is are you telling me that koreans with no you know uap program came up with this and the americans

01:13:02.860 who have been studying alien material science since before my parents were born have never

01:13:08.320 like fuck off yeah fuck off i bet you anything if super if room temperature superconductors

01:13:14.600 are real the koreans didn't come up with them they were found by americans in alien ships in

01:13:22.000 1970 and this is their way of releasing them is through the koreans as through some kind of

01:13:27.400 cultural self-immolation i don't know i don't know why koreans but aside from it's a client

01:13:31.760 i do not expect that take to come from you i like it what i don't know like justifying aliens like

01:13:39.300 we're back to saying aliens are real i like this i like this this crazy aliens are for sure real i

01:13:43.600 just don't believe any of the shit the government's saying but aliens are definitely real yeah um

01:13:49.820 we're gonna move on to the next thing because we had we could talk about this next thing for a while

01:13:53.960 but i wanted to lead into it with this uh paper that i found and i'm just gonna briefly go over

01:14:02.320 a couple of interesting things i found in it um it's about language and the title is cultural

01:14:10.020 thought patterns in intercultural education by robert b kaplan from the university of southern

01:14:16.340 california so in short what this uh paper is about it's about uh esl it's about people who learn

01:14:24.800 english and what they found was that um i shall read the beginning here just to give it a brief

01:14:30.820 intro the teaching and reading of the teaching of reading and composition to foreign students

01:14:36.820 does differ from the teaching of reading and comprehension to american students and cultural

01:14:41.540 differences in the nature of rhetoric supply the key difference in the teaching approach

01:14:48.020 language teachers particularly teachers in english as a second language are latecomers

01:14:52.180 in the area of international education and i'm just gonna stop quoting it there basically it's

01:14:58.020 a paper about how we teach english to non-english speakers and the problems we run into and the

01:15:05.460 main focus of this paper is kind of how like an asian person or a slavic person or whoever

01:15:11.540 structures their paragraphs or even if you teach them the language very well

01:15:15.900 the the way information flows out of them and the way information flows in their mind

01:15:22.400 is inherently different um and i'm just going to read a couple things here that i found interesting

01:15:27.380 um he says here the english language and its related thought patterns have evolved out of

01:15:34.420 the anglo-european cultural pattern the expected sequence of thought in english is essentially a

01:15:40.460 platonic aristotelian sequence descended from the philosophers of ancient greece and shaped

01:15:45.840 subsequently by roman medieval european and later western thinkers is not a better nor a worse

01:15:51.640 system than any other but it is different and what he's saying there is like the language is

01:15:56.920 representative of the thought pattern and that and we've discussed this now and again before on the

01:16:02.680 show that when you learn another language like if you learn russian you're not just learning

01:16:07.620 the speech you're not just learning the grammar you're actually learning an entire different way

01:16:12.640 of thinking a different way of approaching the world and people will sometimes laugh like oh

01:16:17.220 you know eskimos have a thousand words for fish and no word for whatever but it's like yeah but

01:16:22.140 that's kind of the point of it the point of like how they structure their sentences how they

01:16:26.700 structure their paragraphs kind of it it's a different way to decode information and to view

01:16:33.440 the world he says the thought patterns which speakers and readers of english appear to expect

01:16:39.420 as an integral part of their communication is a sequence that is dominantly linear in its

01:16:44.160 development an english expository paragraph usually begins with a topic statement and then

01:16:49.700 by a series of subdivisions that topic statement each supported by an example and illustrations

01:16:54.540 proceeds to develop the central idea um it's got a thing here it says uh some oriental writing on

01:17:02.780 the other hand is marked by what may be called an approach by indirection in this kind of writing

01:17:08.280 the development of the paragraph may be said to be turning and turning in a widening gyre the

01:17:13.860 circles or gyres turn around the subject and show it from a variety of tangential views but the

01:17:18.820 subject is never looked at directly things are developed in terms of what they are not rather

01:17:23.760 in terms of what they are again such a development in a modern english paragraph would strike the

01:17:29.280 english reader as awkward and unnecessarily indirect he's got a few examples here i won't

01:17:34.160 go into the examples but just to flash forward ahead later on in the in the um the piece he's

01:17:39.920 got a page 15 for people who find this thing cultural thought patterns and intercultural

01:17:45.040 education he's got like a series of pictograms here that shows like english versus semitic

01:17:51.920 versus oriental versus romance versus russian different types of language and english is

01:17:56.640 just an arrow pointing down semitic is like a left to right zigzag going down oriental is like

01:18:03.520 a spiral going inward romance it's like a weird map it goes down and across and russian's kind

01:18:10.080 of the same and and uh the russian example he gave was like the way they write their paragraphs

01:18:15.120 is like you know they'll start with two small sentences and then like one giant run-on sentence

01:18:21.040 at the end that where all the stuff is it's sort of this like meandering way of talking but he says

01:18:27.000 this is actually indicative of how these different cultural mindsets approach the world and approach

01:18:32.960 truth itself and he's only using this in the framework of how you would teach English to them

01:18:37.940 you know it's like saying like oh we we don't teach English we just teach them grammar and

01:18:41.840 hope them be good at it and we think they're doing it wrong when we ask them to write an essay

01:18:46.540 because all these arabic guys are coming up these weird fucked up essays that don't flow together

01:18:52.340 properly but that that's the utilitarian approach to it but i think hidden within that is um a real

01:19:00.240 a fundamental racist truth um that could be viewed linguistically but it's like you know that's

01:19:06.260 the the difference in the worldview and the culture is so deep in people and i don't think

01:19:11.460 you can unlearn that and this is something that um i don't know if you've approached this

01:19:15.440 but me and my wife we've discussed about like um our our son or our children learning a second

01:19:22.760 language have you talked about this with your wife yes a little bit where did you land on that

01:19:28.340 did you decide whether or not you're like going because in canada there's like french as a second

01:19:33.140 language but what did you just well it's it's different it's different for us because um like

01:19:39.920 that we it's hong kong versus canada right but the native language of hong kong is cantonese

01:19:44.640 which is essentially a dead language unless the chinese government falls like they're in the

01:19:48.260 active process of killing off all these languages um and my wife doesn't even really speak it that

01:19:52.480 much so and we're canadian so there's no point a lot of europeans will make fun of us westerners

01:19:59.100 because we only speak english i will often tell them i took how many years of french did we take

01:20:04.320 in school serious french uh like what 10 years we stopped in grade nine right so that's nine

01:20:12.520 years of learning french right yeah i do not speak french no one i know speaks french you don't speak

01:20:22.620 french so we've had imagine learning a language for nine years and not being able to speak it

01:20:29.880 that's the experience many canadians have like a federal idiosyncrasy of canada though like the

01:20:35.160 truth is you would learn to speak french if you lived on the border with french-speaking people

01:20:39.280 and there were people in the borderland of our province that speak both languages because they

01:20:43.720 live in the borderland but i mean the distance from here to quebec is farther than the distance

01:20:49.440 across germany so like i think this i think the scale the europeans and and and also i i like the

01:20:57.820 idea of being like oh we're so culturally you know erudite fine but also um is it really effective

01:21:05.920 for you to have to know nine languages just to talk to people technically within a two-hour range

01:21:12.160 of your home i think it's better to have a language a great language like english that's

01:21:16.540 spoken across an entire continent i think that's just a strong empire so i think it kind of sucks

01:21:21.580 to have to learn that many languages also counterpoint to that there's a an incalculable

01:21:29.440 amount of white virgins who learned japanese by sheer will alone you know they never met a japanese

01:21:36.360 person it's just they're they were not reproduced they were that's a different sort of thing uh but

01:21:43.940 but you are right um but that's something i discussed with my wife like you know she's

01:21:49.420 she had this idea in her head that she wanted our son to learn latin and you know maybe we're being

01:21:54.840 a couple of me learns about it you know but one thing that became apparent to me and i've known a

01:22:00.940 lot of europeans um you know eastern europeans who who learned how to speak english no one in

01:22:08.080 particular when i was growing up and the thing that they would complain about is that the more

01:22:12.760 time they spoke english they would get better at english they were never perfect at it but the

01:22:18.640 better they got english the worse they would get in their native tongue and they get made fun of

01:22:21.880 by their friends for it as well so it seems like you always occupy this middle ground where

01:22:26.640 you can become the more competent you become a more language like no one's really fluent in all

01:22:31.940 these languages they can't be i don't and that's another funny thing too because like the the

01:22:36.320 you're talking about foreign languages spoken by like immigrant groups in uh monoculture or what

01:22:43.540 ought to be a monoculture and so you have them kind of choose it picking and choosing where it's

01:22:47.580 like if the if those people like if markham was its own country and within that country chinese

01:22:53.920 was the language and outside of it english was the language you wouldn't have that problem

01:22:57.700 but and you probably probably the people what i'm saying is like the people that had to go and

01:23:03.360 work in markham who were english would speak shitty chinese but they wouldn't get made fun of

01:23:08.960 because well you're not from here you know what i mean but the fact that you're trying to make

01:23:13.220 everybody integrate is where you get these problems where it's like oh you don't speak

01:23:16.540 english enough to be one of us but you don't speak chinese well enough to be one of them

01:23:19.500 like you shouldn't the real story is you just shouldn't be here yeah i would also say that i

01:23:25.280 think the the commonality here is that most of the people we hear this from are europeans and

01:23:30.220 the argument being made here is that the european languages generally wouldn't be so different that

01:23:36.480 it wouldn't be like oh i'm i'm an english speaker and i'm just gonna learn cantonese

01:23:40.000 yeah that would that would be like i don't know don't bother unless you're a diplomat i guess also

01:23:45.620 the goofball Dutch guy who speaks

01:23:47.660 nine different European languages I don't think you're

01:23:49.580 impressing any Norwegians with your Norwegian

01:23:51.700 I don't think you're I don't think when you go down

01:23:53.560 to Florence and order some

01:23:55.600 meet the balls they're really impressed with

01:23:57.560 your Italian yeah I think you can get by

01:23:59.820 and the Italians are

01:24:01.140 comfortable enough with nobody speaking

01:24:03.480 fucking Italian correct that they've given

01:24:05.560 up on mocking you right

01:24:07.360 now you're not you're not

01:24:09.520 talking about who I think you're talking about you're not

01:24:11.460 talking about our Faust

01:24:13.500 no I would never

01:24:15.360 say that about our faust our your faust big boy he'll break he'll break me and you over his knee

01:24:22.820 like bane at once will you will he's seven and a half feet tall i told me the other day you can

01:24:29.320 take these two lips and kiss my ass maybe these like his lips or your your lips oh i said that

01:24:35.860 wrong uh shit you take your own lips take those take your two lips and kiss my ass fuck not with

01:24:42.800 my lips oh no i've ruined it now yeah you can take these two cheeks and fuck them ah shit i

01:24:49.920 said that well what was it supposed to be all right so that that leads gracefully into our

01:24:58.700 next topic which is a book that i read and we could spend a lot of time on this um i liked this

01:25:05.880 book it's a book by an individual who's a bit contentious in our scene especially for those

01:25:12.960 who are into geopolitics but he's a well-known name peter zyhan and this is his first book he

01:25:21.080 just has another one out right now i didn't get around to it um from what i hear i might like it

01:25:27.280 a bit less than this one because i quite liked this one called disunited nations

01:25:32.420 and so this was published a few years ago so obviously he's probably got to update some

01:25:38.860 theories he's he's in these geopolitical circles he's in the interviews and he's got a podcast

01:25:44.900 and i think you'd find him interesting if you haven't really heard of him before but

01:25:50.740 he he's very hawkish on china peter zane yeah i've heard of him

01:25:57.440 he's been very he's been predicting the fall of china for quite some time and by fall of china

01:26:06.920 i mean complete and utter collapse of china so he's been kind of in the news because he says oh

01:26:12.880 within five years china is going to be complete rubble and it'll be a refugee crisis and he said

01:26:18.740 that 10 years ago so um i my feeling is he makes those predictions for the same reason anyone does

01:26:25.120 because it gets him in the press whether or not he truly believes that but you know go into this

01:26:29.940 book knowing that he's made some hard predictions that have not come true however my position on

01:26:37.020 the hit specifically his china predictions have been like his predictions have been wrong

01:26:42.340 but his data inputs and his logic and reasoning seem sound to me so for example um and actually

01:26:52.020 he spends quite a bit of this book being anti-china so the purpose of the book this united

01:26:55.920 nations just to give you a brief overview and then we'll get into the details it's that um

01:27:01.780 the current world order he calls it the order is controlled by america and by the order we mean

01:27:09.200 uh general trade security and economic security um is assured by america there can there most

01:27:19.040 likely will be an eventuality where America retreats from its global security position

01:27:24.340 and its economic stewardship and will thrust the world into a multipolar state.

01:27:32.240 Every country basically has three paths to choose from. Number one, you kind of glom on to a country

01:27:38.000 where this isn't a big deal. So in the case of Mexico, you obviously partner with the United

01:27:42.440 States. The Japanese, for example, have decided that that's the way to go. And they cut a deal

01:27:46.960 with both Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The Japanese are the only country to pull that off so far,

01:27:50.940 and they are now part of the inner circle of the American strategic network.

01:27:55.400 Second, you can find a way to go it alone. Maybe you don't need the allies. Maybe what you need

01:28:01.580 is close, and you can do kind of a neo-imperial system. I can see the French doing this. I can

01:28:06.240 see the Turks doing this. Option three is you just figure out how to go without.

01:28:11.920 and it'll be a very disjointed chaotic world and this book seeks to answer like what will happen

01:28:19.540 let and he spends the entire book looking at specific core areas and power players in the

01:28:25.240 world goes to brazilia goes to japan saudi arabia britain france and says if america were to

01:28:31.540 retreat from its position still be america still exists not collapse but stop you know holding up

01:28:37.700 global trade what would happen and what would happen and what's the likelihood that these

01:28:43.860 nations would not only survive but thrive and he goes into great detail and what i found was

01:28:48.960 even if people disagree on his conclusions i think they're great conversation starters because he

01:28:57.360 makes some pretty bold predictions but he also explains them and i will also say that a lot of

01:29:04.360 people in our scene specifically have taken issue with him because um he according to him he's a

01:29:14.220 jared diamond gun germs and steel sort of guy when it comes to issues of race and ethnicity

01:29:20.000 what that means is that he subscribes to a belief that certain ethnicities are the way they are

01:29:27.940 because of environmental and geographic limitations and the claim made by jared diamond which was

01:29:35.340 roundly debunked if people want to look this up debunked by a guy that a lot of people might know

01:29:41.360 alt hype look up he's got a video debunking guns germs and steel you know that book they he claims

01:29:47.620 that um you know why doesn't africa have domesticated animals like the west and he said

01:29:52.760 Well, it must be that there's there's no domesticable animals there, right?

01:29:58.260 You know, all the animals that can be domesticated were domesticated, which is false.

01:30:03.160 Now, Jared Diamond's core argument about the prevalence of domesticable crops and animals, if it were true, could explain why Eurasia was ahead of Africa and the Americas.

01:30:14.360 His core argument only argues why Eurasia was ahead of everywhere else.

01:30:18.840 It does not argue for Europe being ahead of India and China.

01:30:21.900 Jared does offer some explanations for that at the end, but those are tacked on.

01:30:27.560 90% of the book is about domesticable crops and animals and about arable land.

01:30:32.740 Variations which are not only do not explain Europe shooting past India and China,

01:30:37.700 but are in fact a mark against his core argument since Europe was clearly inferior to India and China in this regard.

01:30:45.800 You know, a bunch of white guys went to Africa and domesticated a bunch of animals just for fun.

01:30:51.060 it's just that africans just decided not to you know and it's very hard to domestic you can

01:30:56.260 domesticate nearly anything it's just whether you do it or not like look at what fucking arabs did

01:31:00.860 with camels camels are not easy to domesticate fuck off horses are not easy to domesticate

01:31:06.560 so that's that's peter zion's mission although in the book he makes allusions that he's aware

01:31:13.760 of ethnicity and he's aware of ethnic conflict like for example we'll get into this later but

01:31:19.020 he says that you know in this disunited world france could return to sort of a geopolitical

01:31:26.420 dominance um because the eu might very well crumble but he points to that the intra-ethnic

01:31:32.440 conflict in france will probably tear it apart it's like he's aware of it like he's aware of

01:31:37.240 the migration crisis but my issue is he does not apply that criticism even handily another one

01:31:46.060 just just to get a couple off the top to let people know where i'm coming from like

01:31:49.960 one thing he says is that the main thrust of the book is that if america retreats from its

01:31:57.300 security position it'll still largely be the most dominant nation in the world and it's and the

01:32:04.140 reason we think this is happening is because america has been withdrawing its troops in huge

01:32:10.360 numbers over the past decade or so and he says well if that continues then that's gonna have

01:32:15.060 ramifications but he says you know america is still going to have the best militaries and so

01:32:20.000 he says you know it could still militarily accomplish its interests with its military

01:32:24.660 or with its information intelligence infrastructure with its special forces with anything so it could

01:32:30.680 still strike out wherever the fuck it wants it just wouldn't be in his words like setting the

01:32:36.200 stage for everyone to be able to participate in this sort of liberal democratic capitalist system

01:32:44.280 it'll just fall to you know winner takes all whatever old rivalries re-emerge and and then

01:32:50.200 trade becomes a lot more complicated and you know decoupling from the dollar all that becomes a lot

01:32:54.740 more complicated but one thing he had said was that america will still be there but he says

01:33:01.460 he's also predicting russia will collapse that russia is on the verge of collapsing it always

01:33:06.460 has been the kgb basically overthrew the other factions within the soviet ruling coalition

01:33:11.780 within the Communist Party. And so Andropov, Chermir, and Gorbachev were all heirs to that

01:33:16.740 legacy, and Putin is the inheritor of that legacy. Now you combine that concentration of power with

01:33:24.580 the collapse of the educational system in the Soviet system around 1986, with the country's

01:33:29.300 demographic collapse, and it means that the total elite throughout the entire Russian system is only

01:33:34.100 about 130 people, and Putin has had 23 years to basically purge it down to the people that he

01:33:40.580 feels he can trust. So if Putin were to slip in the shower and fall into some duct tape and sit

01:33:45.260 in a chair and throw himself into a pool, we probably wouldn't have any serious policy changes

01:33:51.000 because everybody who's left is more or less on the same page. Okay, so with an elite that is that

01:33:55.860 concentrated and that small, the capacity to manage the entire system is limited. Now, this isn't quite

01:34:02.840 as bad as it is in China. I mean, China's a one-man show now. And even if Xi Jinping were the smartest

01:34:07.060 person on the planet he still wouldn't be able to micromanage everything in the system and that's

01:34:12.180 why we're seeing the policy ossification and cracks forming throughout the entire chinese system

01:34:17.060 that's not that bad in russia but putin has had to reach out to manage this system by

01:34:22.340 aligning with other factions at one point there was a bunch of technocrats like the former fine

01:34:26.740 minister finance minister akudrin but more reliably he's partnered with organized crime

01:34:34.020 This is one of the reasons why the Russians have proven to be so troubled in cyberspace

01:34:37.860 until very recently. So you've got this combination concentration of power, which urges

01:34:44.680 corruption, that is partnered with organized crime, which loves corruption. And as a result,

01:34:50.300 the whole system is cracking apart. And one of the reasons he cites is that Russia internally

01:34:57.400 has a lot of intra-ethnic conflict it's not a homogenous nation it's not really it's not

01:35:03.780 united in any way internally ethnically and it's all it's on the brink of collapse and it probably

01:35:09.240 will to which i would say well if you can say that about russia you can say that about america

01:35:13.900 like what what screams intra-ethnic conflict more than the united states of america like everyone

01:35:20.700 in the world fucking knows that right so to say that that's going to for sure destroy russia

01:35:27.340 but not have any impact whatsoever on america i don't buy it um so you know when he's predicting

01:35:33.720 the downfall of russia and china i don't see that however uh with china makes a few good points i

01:35:40.560 was wondering if you wanted to even jump in here when i talked about china because it's the stuff

01:35:46.640 you had talked about where he says like look um talk about the declining birth rate in america

01:35:52.440 fucking everything up well there's also declining birth rate in china that's a big problem that a

01:35:58.320 lot of people don't talk about we've never had a country die for demographic reasons it's just

01:36:03.200 never happened because we've never i mean remember this started with industrialization and urbanization

01:36:08.880 that is historically speaking a relatively recent uh development um but what we do know

01:36:15.600 is that when you run out of people uh who are age 20 and under you actually get faster growth for a

01:36:20.800 while, because all the money you spend on your children, you're spending on consumption and

01:36:24.660 investment. And then when you run out of people aged 40 and under, you then start seeing the

01:36:30.900 explosion in labor costs. And China has now been in that environment for 20 years. So the cost of

01:36:36.840 labor in China has gone up by a factor of almost 15 since the year 2000, which again, historically

01:36:41.560 unprecedented. We're now in an environment where there is not a single manufacturing subsector

01:36:47.460 where china is competitive uh they have the advantage of the sunk industrial plant and

01:36:53.000 obviously a robust subsidy system but in a head-to-head competition with anyone unless

01:36:57.860 those subsidies like get really out of control uh the chinese lose on both quality and speed

01:37:02.760 this is only going to get worse because now we're in an environment where they're running out of

01:37:06.840 people age 50 and under and that means it's eating into their skilled labor as well he says

01:37:14.460 a point he makes here is that while China was creating a lot of credit and a lot of debt to

01:37:22.100 finance their growth, there's a difference between good debt and bad debt. Good debt can be paid

01:37:27.160 back. Bad debt is just a liability. And that actually, that's kind of what happened in America

01:37:31.180 in the financial crisis. So he said, you know, the amount of Chinese debt that's gone bad over

01:37:35.960 the past few decades is 8.5 trillion. And they don't really seem interested in innovation or

01:37:42.440 traditional traditional laws of economics um he says in china there's a big problem and you let

01:37:47.840 me know if this is true he says like it's more common in china for people to buy investment

01:37:52.400 properties so like a lot of the problems we have in america where it's like oh it's all the real

01:37:56.800 estate market it's all speculative like that's like five times worse in china um and it's all

01:38:03.420 bought through credit does does that sound like something you you witnessed when you lived in

01:38:08.080 that area yeah absolutely absolutely yeah he says you know there's uh china's got an over demand

01:38:14.580 and like an entirely hollow economy um he says the problem with china is that okay so the question

01:38:23.080 is the question on everyone's mind is who can replace america and there's a lot of third world

01:38:28.280 ists out there who say china can replace america you know has the biggest economy you hear that

01:38:32.860 all the time china's this huge juggernaut of an economy and he says well here's the problem it's

01:38:38.300 that uh america's consumer driven market is a massive production sink for the whole world

01:38:45.200 and if you remove the american market from the world all other nations don't even they can't

01:38:51.800 even produce that much like there's not enough people buying it so he's like in china their

01:38:55.760 consumer market isn't that good so the question is not just what they can produce can they buy

01:39:00.320 because america buys america buys a lot of shit that props up a lot of this manufacturing sector

01:39:05.180 if america stops the chinese people aren't actually consuming all the world's stuff so

01:39:10.860 like they wouldn't be a big power player for trade and they wouldn't be that sort of like

01:39:15.720 economic sink to hold up all this global production um and also he said like you know

01:39:22.900 if america retreated like the big problem he mentioned with china and i think this is true

01:39:28.280 because the last couple of things I mentioned, they are true, right?

01:39:31.080 Okay, here's another thing that's true.

01:39:33.160 He says, you know, the land in China isn't that great.

01:39:37.020 The way it's laid out with its capital city so far from each other,

01:39:40.700 like it doesn't really make a lot of sense to move resources between each other.

01:39:45.560 He says, one of the things, what America promises the world with the order,

01:39:52.000 because that's what we're talking about, the order.

01:39:53.380 it's that not only will we provide you know the the standardized dollar we're also going to

01:39:59.860 provide all the maritime trade routes maritime security physical security um access to open

01:40:06.360 markets that's a big one that america promises then the floating global currency that i discussed

01:40:11.220 china not only can't provide all that i don't think it wants to you see what i'm saying like

01:40:18.200 you have to like we talked about last episode about turbo america or maybe a couple episodes

01:40:23.500 ago turbo america this book seeks to answer like what is turbo america how does turbo america

01:40:29.780 function what are the actual what what what are the dimensions to its power and once you break

01:40:35.600 down those dimensions like i just did that's okay what could step into that place and the problem

01:40:41.300 with china and i think this is true and it may correct me if i'm wrong but like china has a

01:40:46.820 terrible relationship with the rest of the world China has a terrible relationship with its

01:40:51.520 neighbors and China doesn't seem to be interested in having relationships that would put in a

01:40:58.000 dominant position because America no matter what you think about America a lot of people think the

01:41:03.640 world hates America they don't really you know they might talk shit about America they might

01:41:09.740 make fun of America but there's more countries that are reliant on what America offers in terms

01:41:16.220 of like the global open marketplace for trade than anything else right you know they like that

01:41:22.400 they would rather that not go but i think and he makes a point in the book that america can

01:41:27.380 accomplish this because it was a relatively new nation there's not really a lot of people that

01:41:31.020 have ancient animosity towards america there's a lot of nations that have an ancient animosity

01:41:36.920 towards china and in my opinion this is why you know true unity between china and russia can't

01:41:43.180 really exist like it comes down to china kind of believing that's the best and believing that

01:41:48.760 every other nation is beneath them so it's like they're not a country that could even set up

01:41:55.380 an infrastructure like america has does that sound like it makes any sense yeah that makes sense all

01:42:01.220 right and on in terms of what the order is so he says america formed a new world order called the

01:42:09.620 order through the Bretton Woods trade alliances to defeat the Soviet Union after World War II

01:42:15.020 and after the fall of the Soviet Union George H.W. Bush kind of tried to redirect the momentum of

01:42:22.740 this trade system which wasn't really taken up by any subsequent president because it was

01:42:27.480 essentially an imperialist system and subsequent presidents didn't want to engage in imperialist

01:42:32.820 projects they kind of just let it falter and wade they didn't want to continue that sort of

01:42:37.800 imperialistic economic project which was designed to be against like one enemy so the order which

01:42:45.880 is essentially america's economic system stopped demanding anything of its beneficiaries because

01:42:52.940 the idea was that for people to be a part of this american system there were certain things that

01:42:59.940 america would provide to entice them one was the trade routes the other was that in his words

01:43:05.920 america would bleed for its member states so if you were within the american sphere of influence

01:43:11.100 you could count on america to send its young men to fight for you now this doesn't sound very good

01:43:16.780 to american young men but that explains all these fucking wars like why are we going to war here or

01:43:22.720 there it's it's for this system it's because you actually need america needs to be seen to sacrifice

01:43:30.680 to maintain this system so that other countries don't need to and then they will participate in

01:43:36.880 it and essentially become vassal states but that is the trade-off and he points to 9-11 as one of

01:43:44.660 the main reasons why america started retreating from this because when america actually did call

01:43:49.480 on its member states to go fight for them no one really did canada did a few others did but there

01:43:55.340 was way more pushback from countries that it thought would be on its side i think and there's

01:44:01.120 a lot more ambivalence towards that that that one time america really wanted to just be a gangster

01:44:07.180 for a minute and then they said okay well fuck this um that's kind of the argument he's making

01:44:12.320 here and the other problem with the order was that it wasn't really set up to benefit americans

01:44:21.360 it was set up to kind of benefit american business but the effect of this new world

01:44:27.840 economic order was the hollowing out of american industry so that's why like this order even though

01:44:34.680 america turbo america is in charge that's why americans aren't very happy and we'll get into

01:44:40.060 this when we talk about uh the economic and the federal bank and the global credit market

01:44:44.660 and next few um next few episodes but you know it's this idea that americans generally didn't

01:44:51.580 if it is an imperialist project americans didn't really benefit any way other than

01:44:56.640 additional trade be being that economic sink for the rest of the world so we get all these like

01:45:02.240 imports but you also lose your job and become you know it doesn't feel very good living in the

01:45:08.500 center of the empire for a lot of people and the way america can do this is like what it's promising

01:45:14.260 is if with us in charge you can pursue economic self-interest and america is very good at finding

01:45:21.560 forces and groups within these nations and trying to appeal to them we talked about in the previous

01:45:28.020 episode about how you know elites deal with other elites like you could actually get get japan on

01:45:33.840 board by saying like okay you can get rich from doing this but you can't talk to the people you

01:45:38.400 have to talk to like business owners and the titans of industry um and when he says that

01:45:45.320 america will like retreat from the system there's going to be a lot of you know shocks that hit the

01:45:51.700 rest of the world and he says that you know the imposition of the american order as we know it

01:45:55.640 meant more nations could be reliant on food imports which tripled population growth you know

01:46:02.180 that changes that population growth goes into reverse if you this is another thing he said

01:46:06.720 about china like if you look at china um and again correct me if i'm wrong there's an immense amount

01:46:12.660 of food imports that go into china that china at some point i don't know when it happened but

01:46:18.560 i think they import most of their rice don't they we talked about this before they're massive uh net

01:46:25.420 food importers rice i don't know about rice because they have a whole system for that but

01:46:30.000 they import most of their soy and pork they're like the world's world's largest uh consumer of

01:46:35.060 pork so like globally they're just sucking up all the pork on the planet yeah he says like one fifth

01:46:41.520 of all agriculture is internationally traded but four fifths are reliant on petroleum derived

01:46:47.480 inputs so now we're talking about the petroleum market we're talking about the oil market we're

01:46:51.700 talking about like not just food trade but this entire very multi-faceted you know complex system

01:46:58.020 where you know we'll get into this a bit later or maybe we won't but i'll just talk about now but

01:47:01.780 like an entity like saudi arabia becomes a lot more complicated in a multipolar world like

01:47:09.060 where do you think saudi arabia fits where do you think the oil markets start to go there's

01:47:13.220 relative balance within this status quo last episode we talked about this idea of status quo

01:47:18.900 and politics among nations by morgenthal but you know the turbo america status quo once you upset

01:47:24.740 the status quo pop you're going to see a lot of famine um and it's not going to happen tomorrow

01:47:31.060 but it'll happen by degrees uh but he said like in this chaotic world like the america that you

01:47:38.740 might see the america that he's predicting and again some people might disagree with this but

01:47:42.900 it's a good conversation starter he said you'll see the rise of dollar diplomacy and the dollar

01:47:48.740 diplomacy will step in to replace the military as the military as the troops start coming home as

01:47:53.940 the bases start to close dollar diplomacy where american state actors are working through business

01:48:00.020 to maintain trade dependency while the american military he uses this phrase used more kinetically

01:48:06.420 to fulfill american interests rather than maintain world order so um you'll start to see like and we

01:48:13.720 actually kind of see this now when people talk about these you know tech companies who are in

01:48:18.120 bed with the cia who are in bed with like basically the government or state actors like that's going

01:48:23.440 to be the norm like you're going to just see international business as a front for american

01:48:28.900 state interests um which again like raytheon and all these other companies and blackrock

01:48:35.740 like what is blackrock as as as an organization it's it's so it's so intertwined with the federal

01:48:42.900 reserve and the government it's like it's but that's going to be the model for everything going

01:48:47.480 forward um which is really just you know the elites operating with a different configuration

01:48:54.420 but essentially the same thing the point he makes on the military front though when i said he can

01:48:59.720 behave more kinetically he said america's special forces number around 70 000 even if america removes

01:49:07.120 its investment from the world it still has the power to reach anywhere especially if it has

01:49:12.980 global interests uh so what you see here what he's kind of getting at is you'll still see

01:49:18.160 an American hegemony, but with no responsibility to world security.

01:49:25.880 He makes a point here, and this will be, people could talk about this forever, but it's like,

01:49:31.280 any disruption to global supply lines, which will be expected in this sort of eventuality,

01:49:37.360 encourages companies to put more factories in NAFTA zones, since it requires less investment,

01:49:43.900 and disruption encourages capital flows into the american system so it could come to pass that

01:49:49.340 america seeks out global trade disruptions using its this new from a military which is just to like

01:49:55.340 reach out and assassinate or reach out and do like a flash invasion you know not have you know

01:50:01.180 military bases ever but just like go in and get out the special forces i don't know if we'll have

01:50:06.620 time to go through every country because like i said he dedicates an entire chapter to every country

01:50:13.100 uh and every country that matters um even canada gets a mention um it's not looking good for canada

01:50:20.860 in this system by the way and it mainly comes back to that canada's pretty poor relationship

01:50:28.620 with america will become very real like canada will have to like kind of nut up and say like why

01:50:35.820 why does america need to put up with canada being so shitty and being so difficult towards it if if

01:50:42.460 And we talked about this on a previous episode, where if you look at Canadian provinces, each Canadian province has stronger trade with America than it does with each other.

01:50:54.020 The population is stretched out, basically hugging the American border for warmth.

01:50:59.560 and because of the way that Canada was formed as a co-dominium of Anglos in

01:51:05.200 Ontario and Quebecois and Quebec you have made the decision very early on in

01:51:11.440 your process that the provinces have immense power vis-a-vis the central

01:51:16.420 government that means you didn't get your first trade deal until about three

01:51:20.780 years ago when I say trade deal not with another country within Canada so

01:51:25.420 internal barriers to trade remain immense and almost every providence in the canadian system

01:51:30.160 as this graphic shows has a greater an economic relationship south with the united states than it

01:51:36.040 does with their own co-nationals and in that sort of environment canada is always going to be

01:51:41.860 incredibly exposed to international trends especially as involves the elephant next door

01:51:48.740 so if you look at canadian trade and capital flows they're all pointing down into america

01:51:55.100 it's not very lateral it's not very horizontal at all and a lot of canadians have remarked on this

01:52:00.660 like there's not a lot of inter-province you know unity or strength or trade so that gets very real

01:52:07.360 very fast when it comes down to why does canada need to fucking exist at all maybe it's maybe it's

01:52:12.340 just alberta exists as a vassal state of you know america anyway there's all kinds of speculative

01:52:16.460 stuff you could do one thing he says about japan though i'm gonna kind of just run through these

01:52:21.660 points because i think the points themselves are interesting and maybe they are conversation

01:52:26.580 starters he says the geography of japan forces the residents into tightly uh concentrated urban

01:52:34.180 areas that limit demographic expansion this is something people know about you know japan they

01:52:38.680 that's why they tend to build up that's why they have different living situations there however

01:52:43.300 what's interesting though is that these urban areas are also independently power generating

01:52:49.460 And Japan overall is the most advanced for automation and technological independence, because that's a big thing he talks about, like how when the chips are down, can your nation actually generate its own energy, generate its own everything?

01:53:03.720 Japan is in a better position than China is.

01:53:06.700 and he makes a prediction that if once everything goes to shit japan is in a better position to

01:53:13.340 project power and influence through the entire asian region which would not be historically

01:53:18.740 unprecedented by the way um right now their biggest rival is china but if he is indeed

01:53:24.840 predicting that china is going to fall i don't really believe it but if it is then like japan

01:53:30.060 what you'll actually see

01:53:32.500 is Japan decouple from

01:53:34.360 America at that point

01:53:35.460 because Japan doesn't

01:53:38.440 really like being in the American

01:53:40.260 sphere of influence and doesn't need to be

01:53:42.320 and so that's something

01:53:44.460 you might see and as

01:53:45.860 if Japan becomes an Asian

01:53:48.540 hegemon

01:53:49.400 then it's a rival to America and that's a

01:53:52.420 whole different place that they don't want

01:53:54.460 to be in we've seen what

01:53:56.380 happens there

01:53:57.020 yeah he kind of outlines it here he says like the reason china will not invade japan's because

01:54:04.240 china needs trade inputs like we discussed and could not survive without them um japan is strong

01:54:10.480 militarily and has a superior navy to china which isn't nothing um and also china has poor

01:54:16.480 relationships with all of asia while japan has stronger ties to the west stronger ties to the

01:54:22.340 Persian Gulf and India. And due to these connections, it could step up and take control

01:54:27.120 during the American retreat. Again, some people might disagree with that. I think that's a pretty

01:54:33.520 interesting case. And we're going to make a case similar to that when we discuss the book

01:54:37.840 Princes of the Yen in the next couple episodes. When he gets into the European Union, it's kind

01:54:46.220 of interesting because he says that you know if america leaves nato um and just doesn't give a

01:54:53.140 shit about nato and retreats from that entirely the outcome for the eu is not good especially

01:54:58.020 for germany who has enthusiastically abandoned their military and are so reliant on unified eu

01:55:04.180 for their energy and exports uh their most attractive markets are in the east putting

01:55:09.340 them at odds with russia um he actually says about france which is interesting he said

01:55:14.100 the reason why france is in such a good position not demographically but uh everything else it's

01:55:22.400 that um france has always kind of fought against being in the european union and that it never got

01:55:28.740 rid of its military even to this day the french military is still pretty active and pretty strong

01:55:34.440 germany it's the opposite but it's like uh but because france and kept investing so much

01:55:40.820 time and energy and resources into this military and never triple down on other developments other

01:55:47.920 technology that other nations did so up france could stand alone but it's almost like the least

01:55:53.560 technologically advanced compared to germany and some other places which i thought was an

01:55:58.560 interesting way of looking at it but also um and here's the thing he gets into in this book and

01:56:03.000 i just want to touch on this for a second i got into a bit of a debate in the chat

01:56:09.140 we were talking about the importance of geography in geopolitics and on the last book we covered

01:56:16.760 politics among nations by morgan thou he was anti-geopolitics and by g and more the geo than

01:56:24.360 the politics so it's this idea like the guns germs and steel thing that everything is decided by

01:56:30.180 geography everything is environmental and i my position was that you know geography and environment

01:56:36.940 matters. It's not everything, but waterways matter. You know, the topography of the land

01:56:46.040 matters. You know, he talks about South America in this book, and he says that, and also Africa.

01:56:51.520 He says, you know what? Africa is actually just really hard to develop.

01:56:55.600 What contribution do you see from the African continent in terms of global manufacturing

01:56:59.300 horsepower? Oh, manufacturing? None. None. Very little. Africa is a series of stack plateaus,

01:57:05.440 So just getting the infrastructure in there

01:57:06.740 to access anything is very difficult.

01:57:08.840 And while they do have very high birth rates

01:57:10.780 and a more stable population structure,

01:57:12.740 a lot of that is only possible

01:57:14.140 because they export raw commodities

01:57:15.760 and then import the things that allow them

01:57:17.520 to have a degree of monarity.

01:57:19.060 You break down global supply chains,

01:57:20.480 a lot of that goes away.

01:57:22.420 And there's a lot of stuff,

01:57:23.820 people think of South America as this rich bounty.

01:57:27.400 And he's like, well, there's some facts

01:57:29.660 about the soil in Brazil that aren't great.

01:57:31.840 It's actually pretty hard to grow things there.

01:57:33.460 and actually there's a lot of sheer cliff sides and mountains there that's a problem and people

01:57:40.040 will push back on me correctly you know because i'm not saying it's everything but they'll be like

01:57:44.000 oh you know what fuck it you know white people could make las vegas they can make an oasis in

01:57:48.760 the desert they can travert they could they built fucking washington dc on a swamp agreed agreed

01:57:54.360 white people are magic i get it but also like i i can't live in a reality where we talk about

01:58:02.620 geography as if it doesn't matter as if when we look at france for example france has very

01:58:09.660 you know admirable and desirable waterways you know being near the ocean matters that the fact

01:58:18.300 that britain or the uk is an island and it's very difficult to invade it's it's easier for them to

01:58:25.360 project power than it is to invade them that matters the fact that america is probably for

01:58:31.220 a single nation the best terrain imaginable like it's disgusting how good it's huge i mean like

01:58:40.620 it's it's it's in any historical context it would be an entire empire unto itself the number of

01:58:46.240 different biomes and resources that are there which is why i i don't ever believe there will

01:58:50.740 be this national divorce that people are talking about i honestly think the elites and the status

01:58:55.980 quo holders in america will never let that happen because it doesn't make sense that america has so

01:59:00.500 much going for it just in terms of like the arable land and the desirable like these amazing rivers

01:59:06.520 that just make it so easy to trade internally a lot of nations can't trade internally anyway

01:59:11.660 that was the argument he was making about africa which is true that rainforest actually just

01:59:17.180 fucking sucks it sucks for building trains it sucks for building roads some people will say

01:59:22.880 well you know if you put enough white people there they could make it work agreed but also

01:59:28.440 i don't want to remove geography from the conversation you know um and that's kind of

01:59:32.860 what he's talking about when he talks about places like france where like fact of matter is that

01:59:37.280 france historically has been so good is because it's it's got a lot of desirable topographic

01:59:43.100 features a lot of land that's good for things whereas right but and yet there's russia russia

01:59:49.040 shouldn't work and yet russia does and that's kind of why i think russia won't just collapse

01:59:54.340 because the fact that russia exists at all is kind of like a furious miracle we talked about

02:00:01.240 the history of russia before like it's not easy being russia russia has like insane borders to

02:00:07.940 consider and the fact that it's it the fact that it exists at all lends more credence the idea that

02:00:13.400 it'll exist in the future what it really gets more interesting and i guess we could end on this

02:00:20.100 because we've talked about this for hours and hours and hours,

02:00:22.800 but the one thing that I ended up thinking about a lot

02:00:25.440 was when he gets to the Middle East

02:00:28.180 and he gets to Saudi Arabia and he gets to Iran.

02:00:32.800 He makes the point that right now the Middle East is in chaos.

02:00:37.680 It's in flux right now.

02:00:40.020 And in fact, the entire Islamic world is.

02:00:42.360 There really is no core center of power

02:00:44.780 for the Islamic power block as we know it,

02:00:48.300 whereas other civilizations have a core area.

02:00:52.160 And he said, you know, it could benefit America in the short term

02:00:56.760 once this security state is dismantled, this apparatus is dismantled,

02:01:01.660 because it will thrust the Middle East into a more aggressive balance of power.

02:01:07.960 So you're going to see Iran go to war.

02:01:10.500 You're going to see Saudi Arabia in play.

02:01:12.140 You're going to see Syria.

02:01:13.040 Someone's going to end up taking over Syria.

02:01:14.880 Now, that conflict can work in the short term, but he makes a good point.

02:01:18.300 The problem with any competition is that there's eventually a winner, and he envisions a world where Iran becomes effectively the Islamic center of power for the Islamic world.

02:01:33.100 But for the Middle East writ large, if you if you eliminate the administrative staff in Doha and the special forces in Syria, we're already gone.

02:01:45.320 Troops in Iraq or there's a few there in an advisory role, but if you're talking in hundreds, we don't have anyone in Saudi Arabia.

02:01:51.800 We don't have anyone in all those supply lines we had to get stuff into Iraq or into Afghanistan.

02:01:56.800 Those are all closed down. So the Fifth Fleet is no longer hanging out in Bahrain.

02:02:01.560 the French typically now have more ships in the Persian Gulf than we do. We're done. That's good

02:02:07.380 and bad. For us, we're obviously like, who do we wish a revolution? We don't care. That's exciting

02:02:12.000 after 15 years of crap in the Middle East. But if you're anyone else, this is a bit of a problem

02:02:18.120 because the Iranians and the Saudis have some very strong opinions about who should be in charge in

02:02:22.740 that part of the world. And if the United States is not there keeping them separate or picking sides,

02:02:27.100 i expect this to boil up into another crisis on a scale relatively roughly similar to that of the

02:02:33.860 ukraine war um because saudi arabia the way he lays out the book like saudi arabia is very

02:02:39.160 powerful saudi arabia is not even really a country if you think about it saudi arabia is the house of

02:02:44.220 saad saudi arabia is just this one royal family right and so they don't really function like a

02:02:50.540 nation they don't have the same considerations of the nation and he's like it's a kingdom yeah

02:02:54.520 But Saudi Arabia probably won't fall for that reason.

02:02:57.040 They don't operate like a country because half their population is like they import all their labor.

02:03:03.200 They're slaves.

02:03:03.840 It's a slave state.

02:03:04.900 Yeah.

02:03:05.220 It's essentially just the Saudi royals and a bunch of slaves that they pay for with oil money.

02:03:10.640 It's like a corporation.

02:03:11.880 It's less like a kingdom.

02:03:12.760 It's more like a corporate park or corporate campus built in the sand.

02:03:18.860 That's essentially what it is.

02:03:19.760 Exactly.

02:03:19.920 But he also says that puts them in a good position because they don't need to give a shit about their citizenry.

02:03:23.800 they can make all kinds of deals and he envisions a scenario again you know hear him out he says

02:03:32.480 like you could actually you might even see them ally with israel at some point because israel

02:03:37.700 as like a power player in that area is pretty strong that's not a big ask i mean neither the

02:03:44.120 sauds nor the israelis have any real religious scruples they're both just power hungry you know

02:03:49.960 semites so yeah and that's the thing that saudi arabia they want what's best for them they want

02:03:53.420 money they got the oil and they will make any they'll probably ally there might be some conflict

02:03:58.400 because what um saudi arabia does and everyone knows this is their main thing is exporting

02:04:05.380 terrorists so that's kind of how they would make power plays in the region it's that they kind of

02:04:11.160 take their most fucked up guys and just send them send them out of saudi arabia that's why they're

02:04:15.900 not there that's why saudi arabia is so peaceful they take all their terrorists and send them off

02:04:19.860 to fucking you know i think they're they're sunni muslims um but and that's why the sunni muslims

02:04:26.920 globally are such a interesting power block now saudi arabia really matters uh more so than many

02:04:33.440 of america's like true allies uh for a couple of reasons uh first of all it sits on the holy sites

02:04:39.520 of islam mecca medina and as so has the ability to reach out to muslims wherever they happen to be

02:04:44.460 with a significant message that is often taken seriously.

02:04:48.280 And second, it's the world's largest oil exporter,

02:04:50.840 giving you just a huge amount of cash

02:04:52.800 to pay for things and to manipulate the markets.

02:04:56.940 But it says, you know, once they get that in control,

02:04:59.100 they can wield that however they want.

02:05:01.640 And for a while, they might wield it against Iran.

02:05:05.020 They might wield it in favor of a war with Syria.

02:05:07.420 That will make it so it's not being wielded against Europe.

02:05:10.040 But eventually, that'll settle down.

02:05:12.980 And that's a problem.

02:05:14.460 because in our scene, especially on the far right,

02:05:18.160 I don't think we treat Islam with the care that we should.

02:05:23.080 I think it's seen as old hat.

02:05:25.500 You know, there's not a lot of people in a scene that even talk,

02:05:27.320 but in fact, they might talk about Islam like it's based.

02:05:30.320 It's cool.

02:05:31.640 Disgusting.

02:05:32.480 Disgusting.

02:05:33.140 They should be exterminated.

02:05:34.980 There's only one, to me, like even like the migrant flows from Africa,

02:05:39.400 that could be fixed.

02:05:40.920 You could just turn off that spigot pretty easily.

02:05:43.180 but i'm like you have no idea if if the islamic world were to have like a core civilizational

02:05:49.540 area and it was able to kind of get a shit order that's the that's the actual death of europe

02:05:55.740 it's right next door and there's a lot of them and they've got they've got systems in place that

02:06:02.540 most people don't even think like they're not this like annoying thing that only conservatives care

02:06:08.060 about and guess what they're not going to save the west from homosexuality you're fucking dreaming

02:06:13.480 they're they're going to take over we're kind of lucky right now that they're so in chaos and

02:06:19.740 decentralized right now but that can change and he's he's looking forward to a future where that

02:06:24.320 does change you know that's why america america to this day that's why they're so worried about

02:06:29.820 gaddafi that's why they're so worried about these people who might unify that region um and so and

02:06:37.260 And that's, you know, like we talk about Turkey, you know, Turkey is not even taken seriously.

02:06:41.700 But, you know, if we're back to a multipolar world, we're back to a world where Constantinople matters.

02:06:47.800 We're back to a world where the thing that made Turkey and the Ottoman Empire so relevant for so long was its geographic area, was its area.

02:06:58.520 It's a trade hub.

02:06:59.860 There's a lot geographically beneficial to that.

02:07:02.880 And so if that becomes relevant again, then that whole, you know, they're holding a lot of keys in this new world order.

02:07:11.300 If you don't have America kind of keeping them down, because that's what America, like I'll admit, we can all admit that America right now is keeping a lot of these countries down.

02:07:20.180 They have an interest in keeping chaotic and we might look at that as imperialistic and evil.

02:07:24.940 you know sure i bet if you were them you would think the same way but you know imagine a world

02:07:30.940 where that changes where now you know the saudis are you know they got they got new friends they're

02:07:38.740 not even talking to anyone else anymore and they have they have the house of sad have all the

02:07:42.960 fucking all the free i don't know i don't know what degeneracy they're into over there in the

02:07:49.080 house of sad but it's being supplied by someone over on their side of things you know

02:07:53.040 um sorry i misspoke it's it wasn't this means the wahhabists um that the house of sad um they

02:08:02.740 it's the wahhabi religion that's the one that is yeah it doesn't really matter that much i mean all

02:08:08.400 islam should be wiped from the face of the earth permanently i don't really to which it doesn't

02:08:13.720 really matter which one yeah like he makes a claim here is like the saudis would have an easier time

02:08:19.360 of turning Muslims to do their will than Iran,

02:08:22.160 like turning the Wahhabists,

02:08:24.300 you know, if they send out a signal,

02:08:25.560 the Wahhabists listen to Saudi Arabia more than Iran.

02:08:30.020 What Iran tends to do, he explains in the book,

02:08:32.640 is it tries to turn Muslim minorities against the whole.

02:08:36.400 Well, the Saudis can corral all the Sunni Muslim majorities

02:08:40.760 within their form of radical Islam.

02:08:44.260 That's their greatest weapon,

02:08:45.640 and it's a decentralized weapon.

02:08:47.120 he makes a point he says saudis they don't care if they win the middle east as long as iran loses

02:08:53.980 it he describes the saudis as civilizational arsonists i like that phrase there yeah like

02:09:02.440 i just say he says resetting the world order resets history to regional trade powers where

02:09:08.000 the turks may once again gain control especially when viewed in the context of europe but the

02:09:14.020 middle east uh where it'll be it'll have influence in europe but it will be a superpower within the

02:09:19.620 middle east um and it's historical relevance as a trade hub for both land and sea will become

02:09:26.940 relevant once again and turkey maybe i won't go too much on it but he said uh the reason turkey

02:09:33.840 matters he says it's a rare a rare occasion where an empire was left to its own devices after being

02:09:39.980 shattered so after the ottoman empire shattered um you know it wasn't like decimated like germany

02:09:47.260 and it wasn't like brainwashed and the status quo wasn't inflicted on them it was kind of left to

02:09:53.100 its own devices and so you had this sort of turkish nationalism emerge uh right after world war one

02:09:59.500 and they can kind of develop on its own beyond prying eyes um and that's where you get the the

02:10:04.780 conflict between the secularists and the anatolians which you won't get into right now

02:10:08.860 but he says like you know in this world turkey could make a play for the balkans within their

02:10:14.380 sphere of influence that's an easy one it could carry right on through ukraine if it wanted to

02:10:20.140 if we do see the retreat of russia um and that what you might see is that that that turkish

02:10:29.180 you know nationalism doing to them what it did to germany leading up to world war one that you

02:10:34.860 might see a rebirth because like we talked before remember how powerful that german nationalism was

02:10:40.380 look look at what a proper nationalist movement can accomplish and maybe the only nationalist

02:10:46.540 movements that i see happening anymore realistically like we're trying to get our own things going here

02:10:51.580 but it seems like the the ones that seem just about there are in turkey the only like real

02:10:57.340 nationalist things are like in the islamic world how did that happen you know uh anyway i won't go

02:11:04.460 into too too much and we gotta get going now um one thing he does end on and i think this is

02:11:10.140 interesting he says the next theater of the war on terror so keep an eye out for this maybe he's

02:11:15.820 wrong so the next theater of the war on terror will be uh the sahel in africa he says it's a

02:11:23.340 collection of countries that are hotbeds for terrorism and fractured governments he's predicting

02:11:28.940 that america will ally with france and conduct a new sort of uh theater in the war on terror and

02:11:34.880 it's going to be in africa this time so we'll see we'll see if that happens actually let me just

02:11:40.700 actually we'll end on canada let me just read this part he says the american attitude towards

02:11:46.160 canada is in the process of shifting under the order canada had held a special position

02:11:51.280 in global affairs it sits it sits astride the icb icbm flight paths from the soviet union to

02:11:58.660 the United States. That would have enabled the Canadians to be security free riders during the

02:12:03.800 Cold War. To their credit, they were not. They openly and willingly participated in all aspects

02:12:10.840 of North American security policy, but that doesn't mean they didn't use that leverage at all.

02:12:15.560 They deflected it into other realms. Economically, the Canadians proved adept at eking out

02:12:21.600 concessions from the Americans in trade relations, most notably in agriculture, finance, manufacturing,

02:12:27.860 and services. Strategically, the Canadians played middlemen between Americans and pretty much

02:12:33.300 everyone else. With most U.S. foreign policy made by a single person, few aside from the Canadians

02:12:38.800 held a reliable inn. Such top-level access meant Canadians wielded amazingly outsized influence in

02:12:45.480 a world of global interconnectedness. No more. The Americans' Cold War mentality is gone.

02:12:51.920 Washington no longer sees value in engaging the world's many countries multilaterally.

02:12:57.760 So while the need for an American whisperer might be higher, the Americans have become mildly offended that anyone might play that role at all.

02:13:05.640 More to the point, the Americans no longer fear a Soviet nuclear assault, so there's no longer leverage to be gained from being on the missile flight paths.

02:13:14.320 Any regard to the Canadians once commanded, any leverage they might have wielded is dust in the wind.

02:13:19.700 so you know and also on top of that we've talked about before that canada hasn't been very

02:13:26.840 polite to america and america has frequently been irritated by canadians gestures and trade

02:13:33.580 relationships with china to almost exclusively to spite america we talked about that a few episodes

02:13:39.880 back so you know there might be more one-sided deals between america and canada in this world

02:13:48.200 so anyway we didn't get to everything we might revisit some of this in the future because i think

02:13:53.340 there's some south american stuff that's interesting to talk about but what did you

02:13:57.040 think about all that generally it's pretty cool i kind of agree with your take with uh peter

02:14:02.540 peter zayan that a lot of the time it seems like what he's saying makes sense it's hard to poke

02:14:08.620 holes in it unless you really get into the weeds but obviously he doesn't have a really great track

02:14:13.100 record on on some of his predictions but it seems believable i mean all of it tracks yeah like i

02:14:18.920 find that if you read the book if you read his work i don't denounce him a lot of people like

02:14:23.140 just hand wave him away i'm like well like you should have the wherewithal to pick through it

02:14:28.080 like there might be some stuff you agree with might be some stuff but you'll have a reason why

02:14:31.780 you disagree with it it won't just be that i don't like him because i don't think he's i think he's

02:14:36.080 much of a lib like well no he he might have a lower resolution view in some areas and his

02:14:44.000 predictive power might be off but like i said like with the china thing or the russian thing i'm like

02:14:49.200 he's dealing with facts i just think that his um his view on the role of ethnicity

02:14:56.560 and the power of this internal civilization like the idea that china would just fall apart

02:15:03.040 economically just doesn't track with me it's too ancient it's been through too much shit

02:15:06.580 it just seems that it's a different beast um and it hasn't been overrun with

02:15:13.200 black rapists yet right you know like they'll figure it out like i think the fact that russia

02:15:20.140 has kind of figured it out and unprecedented things keep happening in russia perhaps

02:15:26.880 unprecedented things will continue to happen in russia that's my take so and if those things

02:15:32.760 don't collapse well then

02:15:33.960 you know then you might see

02:15:36.820 a very different Eurasian

02:15:38.940 theater and maybe

02:15:40.720 doing this right all along I don't know

02:15:42.420 anyway I gotta get going

02:15:44.220 I'll talk to you later yeah good one

02:15:46.220 thanks man

02:16:02.760 All right, Mr. Dimes, welcome to the Paranormies, sir.

02:16:07.220 I don't know if we're supposed to say this, but we kind of started and had a false start there,

02:16:11.940 but I will repeat myself because I am still extremely geeked and excited to be here,

02:16:16.140 and this is one of my absolute favorite shows, and I'm just very happy to be here.

02:16:21.160 You got no idea.

02:16:22.200 Awesome.

02:16:22.760 I really appreciate that.

02:16:24.760 We'll just let everybody know that you listen to us at the gym.

02:16:27.220 We don't have to do the whole story all over again.

02:16:30.040 Let me rewind the script.

02:16:31.480 yeah no i hate when that happens dude i was like we were we started and i swear to god i pushed the

02:16:36.780 button but apparently i didn't push the button it's okay it was only a minute and a half so you

02:16:40.280 didn't lose much um it was it was just it was just really like uh dimes telling everybody how much he

02:16:45.340 loves the paranormies which is cool um because like you said as podcast race you know a lot of

02:16:51.360 people listen to a lot of stuff but i don't listen to a lot your podcast is one that i do put in the

02:16:56.000 rotation that is for sure um and we were talking about food posting because we're active in a

02:17:00.860 couple chats absolutely one of the few guys who's out there posting real good dinners and that's

02:17:06.840 not appreciated enough in our scene and i i judge a man by like what he's grilling and what he's

02:17:12.280 posting about grilling absolutely dude yeah and and i do it the old-fashioned way man i tend my

02:17:17.360 own fire i have a an offset smoker that i i cut my own wood and dry my own wood and burn my own

02:17:25.780 wood yeah that's what i want that is the dream i don't have that right now we're just in this

02:17:29.360 little townhouse here and the type of smoker i want would take up half of this like poor excuse

02:17:35.620 for a backyard we've got and then it would just be i would get kicked out of this place there'd

02:17:40.240 be so much smoke right but that's the dream and and doing it properly with the cutting of the

02:17:44.700 wood and all that shit and my wife bless her soul she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about

02:17:49.280 she's like just get the wood pellets i say listen bitch you come at me with that again i i'm i'm

02:17:56.800 telling tales out of school here but let's just say it didn't go very well for her you are still

02:18:02.480 here a wood pellet talk dude the wood pellet okay so my deal with the pellet grills is like yes your

02:18:07.980 brisket is amazing uh but you did use the easy bake oven to do it and yes i'm glad you have the

02:18:14.080 app on your phone that controls all that stuff but you didn't you didn't cook anything there pal

02:18:18.740 um well also yeah every time i go to a smoker it's got front center it's telling me that i can

02:18:23.560 control it from my phone i don't know who that's for yeah i honestly don't it's for it's for the

02:18:30.000 guy it's for the guy who wants to go watch like marvel comics universe movies while he's smoking

02:18:34.500 a brisket and uh stopping to pick up funko pops on the way home or something because you know

02:18:38.760 well they might stop and throw axes too right because that's the new cool manly thing to do

02:18:43.640 it's funny that you like i lived in toronto canada for quite some time and you know one of

02:18:49.740 the bigger urban centers in north america and that's where all that hipster shit starts coming

02:18:54.940 from and i knew when axe throwing was becoming big and you're paying a premium to like just

02:18:59.880 throw hatchets into a board well i started thinking i'm like man if i just had some property

02:19:06.680 i could just do this but here you gotta like sign a waiver and then pay an hourly fee like literally

02:19:14.260 just throw cheap hatchets at wood there is where i am working now there is a strip mall that is

02:19:23.140 like it's like the hipster the new hipster strip mall they have the cool barber shop they have the

02:19:29.780 the axe throwing place then they have the uh the cider brewing company and um oh what's the other

02:19:37.320 one it's like a like a rock indoor rock climbing thing it's like all this really i don't know it's

02:19:42.620 it's all very pre-packaged and fake looking.

02:19:44.520 It looks like it belongs in like a GQ magazine or something like a men's help.

02:19:47.860 Do you see the word bespoke a lot when you're walking through that?

02:19:50.920 Yes.

02:19:51.280 I don't,

02:19:51.580 I drive by it.

02:19:52.400 It's yes.

02:19:52.920 Bespoke.

02:19:53.420 Yes.

02:19:53.880 I hate.

02:19:55.300 That's just the new farm to table.

02:19:58.420 Yeah.

02:19:58.840 Like farm table.

02:19:59.640 Like that's one of those things like,

02:20:01.040 you know,

02:20:01.660 triple a wagyu beef.

02:20:03.080 I'm like,

02:20:03.380 I know someone's lying.

02:20:05.380 I know this isn't what you want me to think it is.

02:20:07.340 Sure.

02:20:07.880 But here's the thing about farm to table.

02:20:09.760 Where else does it go?

02:20:11.960 Yeah.

02:20:12.200 I mean, like, that's like such a, that's like such, you know, air into your lungs, an oxygen

02:20:16.620 company.

02:20:17.360 What?

02:20:18.080 They got that nifty little hyphen in between there, so they don't have to explain the in

02:20:21.700 between.

02:20:22.280 Right.

02:20:22.860 Now that we show that to the wrong type of person, they'll be telling you stories about,

02:20:26.400 well, actually, most of the food you grow goes in the fucking ditch.

02:20:29.320 And there's probably some kind of weird agro business thing where actually half of America's

02:20:34.660 food goes in the ocean.

02:20:36.080 Probably.

02:20:36.980 You wouldn't surprise me.

02:20:38.340 None of that surprises me.

02:20:39.240 after what i saw during covid thank you ice age farmer by the way we should come back but uh he

02:20:44.540 did do the chicken little thing a little too hard i think he got he got got with that so he had to

02:20:48.760 he had to save face and go away um because the world is supposedly supposed to be over according

02:20:52.880 to him yeah and the problem you know we don't need to we could spend a lot of time on covid too

02:20:59.200 but i i we talked about this on the show where i'm like our side you know the the let's say the

02:21:06.020 conspiracy side we were more right than everybody but we weren't 100 correct about things and i

02:21:13.200 think where we went wrong is where we overshot the predictions and we didn't need to we didn't

02:21:19.380 need to say billions are gonna die like all all we needed to say was the truth which was it's

02:21:24.320 untested there's probably going to be a lot of people that are going to die and but once you

02:21:29.120 start giving hard numbers that's just a trap door you're making for yourself we don't need to

02:21:34.160 no and like i mean like look at look yesterday i mean it doesn't matter you know how how many you

02:21:39.300 know the whole millions must die two more weeks conspiracy hard how many times i've heard that

02:21:43.400 but like you know lebron james kid just you know 18 year old kids the famous 18 year old kids

02:21:48.400 falling down having cardiac arrest the uh the merc i don't was merc there was a there was a

02:21:52.980 report came out and it was thousands of vaccine injuries and these are from pfizer themselves like

02:21:59.000 it's yeah we didn't have to make the predictions overall like we the the the royal we as far as

02:22:05.980 conspiracy guys um no because honestly i'm not i'm not backing down from this but the paranormies

02:22:11.620 we were pretty on the nose from the beginning as far as calling how it went and how it was going

02:22:16.220 to go down um i don't recall honestly i don't recall ever saying millions were going to die

02:22:20.560 but uh did say we did say we had no idea what's going to happen you know and we still don't we

02:22:26.020 still don't know what's going to happen with that vaccine even if like who's to say that they didn't

02:22:30.600 do multiple batches of all kinds of things you know they could have been they could have tested

02:22:35.120 they could have beta tested 800 different vaccines and just told you it was a Pfizer vaccine told you

02:22:40.040 it was the mRNA yeah and one thing that has troubled me it's that on our side of things

02:22:46.320 let's call it you know the conspiracy right whatever you want to call it um I'm afraid that

02:22:51.800 So this narrative that we've been carrying on for years is just at this point going to be taken by the mainstream. Like you see Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Like mainstream people basically admitting that everything that we admit we're saying about the lockdowns, about the COVID vaccine, untestedness. So we're kind of losing that narrative. It really fell into our lap. Everyone called us crazy.

02:23:13.320 now a new generation of people are just they're kind of taking that from us and pretending that

02:23:18.120 it was theirs the whole time and that's that bothers me um because for the long time we could

02:23:23.400 say like look i think you know i don't not to get in all kinds of internet drama telegram drama but

02:23:28.660 you get called a schizo enough i'm like well the schizos again were more correct but you know the

02:23:35.880 people are just gonna you know the our words end up coming out of charlie kirk's mouth eventually

02:23:40.340 and i'm not prepared for that we didn't have a contingency plan for when our correctness just

02:23:45.000 kind of gets parroted and we're robbed of that credibility which i find you know troubling

02:23:49.760 yeah i see well they jumped on it now that now that it's over and safe to talk about right because

02:23:55.940 at the beginning the only people who were really correct that were publicly speaking about it were

02:24:00.160 like us uh ramsey paul and you know anglin um lauren witzke like that's that's not company you

02:24:11.760 want to be like you know you want to be associated with normally right i mean all of them yeah you

02:24:16.040 know and then regular people like i you would lose family members over this like a lot of people

02:24:20.960 forget like how up in arms and frothing of the mouth individuals were during the peak of this

02:24:26.120 thing if you were to imply that you know it was it's just a flu or something like that like you

02:24:31.800 you could lose your job there was real dire social consequences so anyone who did speak up

02:24:37.380 unless they kind of had enough capital on their side to weather that storm if you're just a

02:24:42.360 regular person like you're putting a lot on the line for that yeah man people lost family members

02:24:48.340 divorces happen uh kids don't speak to their parents anymore uh people have died without

02:24:54.660 saying goodbye it's crazy like how how this thing just divided so many people and whether or not we

02:25:00.700 were completely right about everything um what personally i know i was right about was watching

02:25:06.620 this thing from the unfold from the beginning and we called it the next 9-11 but bigger it was it

02:25:13.300 which is what it was i mean they there was a huge uh you know uh big scary thing right the big virus

02:25:19.840 big scary thing big you know terrorism act scary thing virus and then a huge transfer of money

02:25:24.360 just like every other time like trillions of dollars trillions must transfer

02:25:28.600 and again i think on some level people are starting to understand that like i started

02:25:35.400 noticing that they were accepting the lab leak theory which again you could lose your job at

02:25:39.720 one point for implying that but that's almost the least interesting part of this like the real

02:25:44.100 conspiracy like you had said is a yeah kind of the government overreach but it's also the wealth

02:25:48.880 transfer but it's also all this other stuff that's going on and you can kind of just like you said

02:25:53.500 point to the patriot act like this is this is that and you hate that so you should also hate this

02:25:58.260 why is this so hard yeah it's it's crazy they have this legislation printed up ready to go

02:26:07.740 and i'm talking like legislation doesn't just happen i don't know if these people know this

02:26:12.220 like legislation isn't an email or a text you know what i mean legislation is what was the

02:26:17.320 one that pelosi said that uh we have to i know you're i know you're canadian so you don't care

02:26:21.700 enough probably to know this oh no our entire lives are american politics up here oh okay so

02:26:26.960 oh good so you'll know more about this than me um the one the bill is like we have to sign it

02:26:31.760 before we can read it was it like 800 pages or something like that yeah like things that probably

02:26:37.580 make sense to them but because they've been in that sort of strata for so long like that comment

02:26:42.860 would make sense to uh who's that guy who just his brain broke on tv oh mitch mcconnell yeah

02:26:48.820 to a guy like that who's on

02:26:50.920 who's so far like

02:26:52.780 filled to the brims with coke and just

02:26:55.220 coke and get these people run

02:26:57.140 on cocaine and gay sex

02:26:58.220 a comment like that makes sense

02:27:00.940 like you're like you're

02:27:02.980 such a bureaucrat you forget

02:27:04.940 that you're talking to real

02:27:06.900 people yeah I mean and then

02:27:08.960 and again it's like

02:27:10.360 are they even real people these people

02:27:12.960 you know what I mean

02:27:13.620 the funniest thing this is a throwback

02:27:16.840 i remember it was barack obama i forget it was he's passing some type of bill it was some type

02:27:22.480 of green energy bill and then people were upset about it and he had said you guys are gonna have

02:27:27.500 to point to me in here which part you don't like it's like well have you read it have you read the

02:27:32.840 thing that you're talking about because he's just like i don't know he had the air of like i don't

02:27:36.320 know what this is tell me what i shouldn't like about it right and that kind of clicked for people

02:27:41.640 like oh you don't know what it is you're signing anyway i don't i'm gonna get down to like an obama

02:27:45.840 thing too we better keep this into a

02:27:47.920 paranormal let's keep it into a paranormal thing because we

02:27:49.900 could easily go into politics and that's not the show

02:27:51.760 he is Michelle Obama

02:27:53.760 how about that well

02:27:55.460 we just did this on

02:27:57.500 on the Nationalist Inquirer this week but

02:27:59.880 their chef drowned

02:28:01.500 right which is not surprising he was black

02:28:03.880 but like there's the video there's the video

02:28:05.840 of him swimming

02:28:06.620 not very well but he's swimming

02:28:09.620 um

02:28:10.680 and the Clinton's the Clinton's ex

02:28:13.720 uh chef died as well drowned well the clinton's another one of those things like covid where

02:28:20.180 you're you're seen as kooky for bringing it up and it's like oh you know her emails but i'm like

02:28:25.260 no have you actually looked at the stuff she's accused of have you looked at the evidence like

02:28:30.560 same thing with that comet pizza stuff or like the um the john podesta stuff like okay there was

02:28:36.720 like oh the guy went to comet pizza there's nothing there but i'm like did you read the

02:28:41.000 emails did you did you actually look at the stuff and a lot of people don't actually look at the

02:28:45.880 source material because anyone who does says okay that's kind of fucked up and why would someone say

02:28:50.580 that um so it's just people like it's a almost like a cognitohazard for them it's you can't

02:28:56.600 touch it and covid is this another cognitohazard where people they need to x that out of their

02:29:02.320 memory and now you're an asshole if you bring it up you're ruining the party and that's i don't know

02:29:07.860 what to do about that yeah people don't want to talk about it uh yesterday speaking of covid and

02:29:14.180 stuff there was i went to the deli to get some roast beef for my my uh sandwiches for lunch

02:29:20.440 and the guy was talking through a mask and it's bad enough that he's probably armenian or iranian

02:29:25.520 or something i can't understand him as it is but he's wearing a mask and the guy behind him i was

02:29:30.600 like i was like can you tell me what he's saying because he's wearing a mask and i can't fucking

02:29:33.500 understand him yeah you still see people like that and the guy behind him was like the guy who's like

02:29:38.600 yeah he's like you know the guy went back he's like he's like that i was like dude i'm so sick

02:29:42.180 and tired he's like yeah me too and like for half a second i thought i got somebody to engage

02:29:46.520 i was wrong he was like yeah he's like he's like but you know what i like to let everybody do what

02:29:51.920 they want to do and it doesn't bother me i'm gonna go back to work and shut up now basically

02:29:54.980 that's what he did yeah i am i'm not a type of guy who has an opinion about things right

02:29:59.700 that's what people like i don't know maybe i'm too hostile to centrists but um the idea that

02:30:06.100 you're like well i just like bill burr would always do this the community's like oh what do

02:30:09.800 i know what why am i having an opinion i'm like like right it that the lack of confidence as a

02:30:15.280 man to just say oh who cares who cares about anything i'm like well you know you're allowed

02:30:19.020 to have an opinion on things that's the thing is we haven't been allowed to have an opinion for so

02:30:23.640 long do we can get into we can do a whole mr uh men's rights stuff if you want to no we're doing

02:30:29.280 paranormal so the clinton's whack people their chef died the obama's chef drowned which why the

02:30:37.180 chefs why chefs i don't know man i don't know what it is about it's a bad time to be a chef

02:30:41.660 for uh i guess the biden chef doesn't you know don't quit dude they're trusted with cooking

02:30:46.120 human meat so they gotta go you know what i'm going with that i like you know i like that no i'm

02:30:51.400 i i i can't i can't not because i don't know enough but dimes like you were saying about

02:30:57.680 in the dark here well that's fine though we do that occasionally around here uh you were talking

02:31:01.860 about the pizzagate and the podesta and the comet ping pong pizza stuff i was talking to somebody

02:31:06.400 about that about two days ago and even if you don't get like all deep conspiratorial where you

02:31:13.260 want to talk about the heavy breathing uh musical act and you want to talk about james oliphantus

02:31:18.340 name phonetically in french is i love children and you know like those guys jamais land font is

02:31:24.180 like whoa that means his name literally means i love children in french yeah it's weird you know

02:31:29.600 but even if you don't approach people with that stuff like you know even if you don't try to weird

02:31:33.680 them out and you're just like well what do you think about that they don't they don't care they

02:31:38.000 think it's they think you're stupid for even knowing about it yeah i always try and challenge

02:31:43.400 i apply this to a lot of the things that we might believe in i'm going to the source of the issue so

02:31:49.120 i think a lot of people who are into the same stuff we're into are tempted to lead with the

02:31:53.860 most exciting juicy details which will sound crazy to people but sometimes you need to teach people

02:31:59.320 how to think you need to walk them through the logical process so you can go to them and say

02:32:03.740 they probably heard about comet ping but they know that there's a crazy conspiracy going around so

02:32:08.720 you gotta break through that ice wall so you would say okay you know the united states of america the

02:32:14.440 largest empire the most wealthy the wealth most well connected ever and the world has ever known

02:32:20.420 Would it stand to reason that somewhere in that bureaucracy, somewhere in that state machinery, there exists one or more fixers because America and even if the politicians are fine, there's politicians and statesmen and power brokers in America that deal with people all over the world, Russians, Saudis, weird Japanese guys, African warlords.

02:32:45.080 they're all coming and going. But would it make sense that there's certain people in the

02:32:49.020 government who are tasked with making uncomfortably powerful men happy? And it's not that you don't

02:32:55.260 like it, but when that sheik comes through, he's got to have a 14-year-old boy. And we need a guy

02:33:01.720 who's in charge of making that guy happy because we need that oil deal. We need whatever the deal

02:33:05.720 is to go through, and we must satisfy those insane, wretched appetites. Would it make sense

02:33:11.860 that there's at least one person in the entire American state apparatus that is tasked with doing

02:33:16.660 that sort of dirty work. Knowing what you do know about America, knowing about the CIA,

02:33:21.280 knowing about everything. They'd say, yes, statistically, it's almost impossible that

02:33:24.740 there's not. It's like, okay, so I've already gotten you through that wall of saying, not only

02:33:30.360 is this possible, it's probable that something like this has happened. And you know, they're

02:33:35.680 dealing with the cartels, dealing with all kinds of... So you've got people on the same wavelength

02:33:40.820 now and then you can break down the details of comic ping pong can talk about like the language

02:33:45.700 that they're using and it's difficult because a lot of this sort of thing no one wants to look at

02:33:50.160 it no one wants to look at child sex trafficking it's disgusting i don't like having this knowledge

02:33:56.160 regular people don't um and if you stare too long into that abyss you know tears back into you so

02:34:01.800 you know it's difficult to you know make people even it's not that they don't care it's that they

02:34:07.840 they almost can't care because that would mean a whole bunch of houses of cards are falling down

02:34:13.080 it exactly and it's it's something that nobody wants to look at it's like when you

02:34:17.320 nobody wants nobody wants no normal person wants child drag shows but when you talk about it to

02:34:23.680 normal people they don't want to talk about it because it's uncomfortable just like this

02:34:27.720 everybody knows everybody if you go to vegas if you go i've done this personally we went to vegas

02:34:33.300 for my buddy's bachelor party when i was living in california and we walked up one of us walked

02:34:37.480 we got a bottle service table and private,

02:34:39.540 you know,

02:34:39.700 like whatever.

02:34:40.340 Cause you know,

02:34:41.080 we're big ballers,

02:34:41.820 right?

02:34:41.980 Cause you know,

02:34:42.420 he's getting married.

02:34:43.380 You got podcast money.

02:34:44.600 This is well before podcast money.

02:34:47.860 This is just when I was a Johnny monoxide millionaire electrician.

02:34:53.440 That was a meme for a while because when I working in San Francisco,

02:34:56.580 we have the highest wage of all the IVW locals.

02:35:00.660 And oh,

02:35:00.980 nice.

02:35:01.620 Well,

02:35:01.800 it's about to be in 2025.

02:35:02.840 It's going to be like 101 50 an hour.

02:35:05.320 Right.

02:35:05.900 Holy shit.

02:35:06.540 Yeah.

02:35:06.860 But in order to take a call, you've got to be double vaxxed and boosted and can prove it and like all that.

02:35:13.460 Yeah, you've got to go through all kinds of like COVID hoops to just even to even sign up to take a call to work there.

02:35:19.120 And guess what?

02:35:19.780 Electricity is for fucking everybody.

02:35:21.580 Right.

02:35:22.420 Yeah.

02:35:22.680 So anyways, so we're in Vegas and we got this like $1,200 table or whatever it is.

02:35:28.280 And I'm like, all right, watch this.

02:35:30.920 So I get up.

02:35:32.540 And this is when I was still single so I could get away with this.

02:35:34.700 walk up to the line of security guards and i said which one of you guys is the girl guy

02:35:39.980 and this little nerdy dude with a bow tie said that would be me and i put a hundred dollar bill

02:35:43.520 in his pocket and say make that shit happen captain and turn around every five minutes he's

02:35:47.280 turning around with like two nines on each arm hey johnny this is tasha and trina they're from

02:35:52.580 colorado right that's that if you can do that in vegas if a dumbass like me for 100 bucks can get

02:35:57.540 like normal chicks brought to the table so like we can you know because every girl wants to sit

02:36:01.620 a vip right in vegas everybody does i i can imagine myself doing that uh now because i've

02:36:08.140 gotten more retarded as i've gotten older so i could imagine maybe when i was in my 20s i could

02:36:12.520 do that now i'd go up to just the first asian guy i saw i said are you the whore man right i need to

02:36:20.120 find the whore man right but i was i was you know i i understand where you're coming from but this

02:36:24.500 was uh you know i was trying to be like the cool dude right yeah i was trying to make an impression

02:36:30.060 with my friends but uh yeah but totally if you can do that in vegas for 100 bucks imagine what

02:36:36.000 a politician can do if you can buy a politician for 10 grand according to black rock imagine what

02:36:41.600 you can get for a million bucks and every no one likes politicians no one believes in politics like

02:36:47.200 ask the biggest shit lib you know so yeah do you think the government's corrupt oh yeah of course

02:36:52.180 okay so like you can untangle their prejudices and get them on the same wavelength of you a lot

02:36:58.820 of it you know not to get too political but a lot of the beliefs on our side of things it's just

02:37:02.460 that people have that prejudice but if you kind of break down a couple of pegs it's like they

02:37:07.380 essentially believe a lot of the same things they just they feel like they can't because they've

02:37:11.180 been told that you you specifically are a gross person that not you specifically but like us are

02:37:17.240 like oh don't talk to them because they believe all this other shit right yeah they they have a

02:37:23.280 different listen freedom of freedom of speech as long as you agree with us well the funny thing is

02:37:28.300 also there's certain everyone has got their favorite conspiracy theory like the biggest

02:37:32.920 nine times vaxxed guy that i know my father-in-law is like the biggest he will believe

02:37:40.040 any moon hoax conspiracy theory you would put past him like he's what you've seen every

02:37:45.240 moon landing documentary he believes it all he believes that there's like

02:37:49.660 castles on the moon made by like everything where's that okay i don't actually i don't know

02:37:56.300 i don't think that same era right i know exactly what you're talking about he the jfk is almost

02:38:02.280 too complicated like if you really get into jfk it's really complicated i think it's just too

02:38:06.600 complicated for a lot of these guys they would rather kind of the whimsy of the moon landing

02:38:11.100 because there's so much crazy stuff you can do with i mean don't don't listen listen don't don't

02:38:15.920 don't put them don't put the moon hoax down there buddy we we do a lot of we we make a lot of hay

02:38:21.480 with that no that's the thing but like that's the thing that even no matter who you are there's guys

02:38:26.280 who are like i hate conspiracy theories but right they're moon landing guys everyone's got their one

02:38:31.520 thing monsanto that's another one you can get leftist with is a lot of that kind of stuff like

02:38:35.620 the corporate conspiracy stuff you just got to say the word too yeah it's like a buzzword to them

02:38:39.920 oh it's mk ultra 100 dude yeah yeah everyone believes everyone knows mk ultra which is yeah

02:38:46.400 it's such a top secret program that everybody knows about it and why is it mk ultra every other

02:38:51.780 thing that the military does with the with the initials mk it's like the the mark 114 the mark

02:38:56.680 22 the mark 17 the mark 116 but this is the mk ultra yeah they're not creative and that's the

02:39:03.940 problem right we used to we used to make cool names in this country or they got china making

02:39:09.740 the names now for pete's sake oh it's terrible or they went for like mundane on purpose to blend

02:39:15.140 it in possible but mk those two letters side by side already seem interesting and threatening

02:39:23.200 some letters it would be like sp yuck what about wk oh that is an all-time segue if i've ever heard

02:39:36.440 one there you go good job i mean it was an alley-oop if you were to just leave right now

02:39:42.940 dust your hands and do the george casanza out that would that paid your way um yeah so i i had

02:39:51.360 a topic i wanted to bring that i've never discussed before never discussed in my show never even

02:39:55.400 discussed it really with anyone i know uh and it's a topic that's very close to my heart and

02:40:00.580 this is the only show i could think of bringing it to and it's i don't know if that's a compliment

02:40:05.700 or no absolutely it's a compliment because the more it's something that's close to my heart as

02:40:11.640 well um it's nothing it's not going to be too paranormal it's not might not be terribly

02:40:18.720 interesting but it is fun and something that i've got a personal stake in it's about the musician

02:40:24.680 andrew wk um and andrew wk some people might know i know aether you know you talk you kind of know

02:40:31.920 him from tv he did a lot of tv appearances a lot of people will know him as a musician he he or a

02:40:39.020 song like uh you know when's time to party we will party hard he's got a look um not the biggest

02:40:44.380 but when i was a teenager and he just came on the scene he was massive um he was doing stadium tours

02:40:51.640 and his songs were everywhere and um so i actually genuinely liked it and i've seen him live a couple

02:40:58.300 of times too and so the sequence of events i'm gonna lay out might sound a bit disjointed

02:41:06.540 it might be meandering there might be people who know exactly what i'm going to talk about

02:41:11.100 we're going to get on my ass about i missed this or missed that but this this is a like

02:41:16.440 15 year long rabbit hole that you can go down that i've been following over the years and

02:41:23.380 checking in on and i was reading about it to the hour leading up to this episode because this is

02:41:28.920 an ongoing story he's still around and they're still weird he's still coming out with albums

02:41:33.880 And there's still strange conspiracies about this individual named Andrew W.K.

02:41:39.960 So I'm going to try and give as holistic a story as I can and give some of the more recent stuff because it just never stops.

02:41:50.480 The party never stops.

02:41:52.300 Okay.

02:41:52.960 And I want you to jump in, interrupt me, ask me other questions, or if this is getting too weird, let me know.

02:41:59.480 First, I remember Andrew W.K. from Obviously Party Hard.

02:42:02.620 Everybody knows that song.

02:42:03.880 I figure that's got to probably be the break song this week.

02:42:07.860 Legitly do not.

02:42:09.500 What's that?

02:42:10.400 I legitimately do not.

02:42:11.980 But it might just be my age.

02:42:13.100 I don't know.

02:42:13.680 Oh, you don't know that song?

02:42:15.540 Nah.

02:42:17.060 All right.

02:42:17.360 Well, that's the break song this week.

02:42:18.820 Yeah, I'll hear it anyways.

02:42:21.060 But he was, I remember seeing him.

02:42:23.660 I don't remember too much because that was a little, Dimes, how old are you?

02:42:26.860 If you don't mind aging yourself.

02:42:28.520 30.

02:42:29.040 How old am I?

02:42:29.740 I'm in my 30s.

02:42:30.740 So that's, I always forget 36, I think, this year.

02:42:33.560 Okay.

02:42:33.880 So when you said you were a teenager when he hit the scene.

02:42:38.360 All right.

02:42:38.840 So not too much different.

02:42:39.780 Maybe I just didn't pay attention to this guy.

02:42:41.560 Yeah.

02:42:41.840 So I was.

02:42:42.360 Yeah.

02:42:42.520 That's another thing.

02:42:43.200 Cartoon Network.

02:42:44.180 I remember seeing him on.

02:42:47.980 On what was that show on VH1?

02:42:50.700 The I love the 80s.

02:42:51.940 I love the 90s.

02:42:52.640 Those shows.

02:42:53.460 He was on the like the I love the 2000s series.

02:42:57.160 And I just I just remember him being on.

02:42:59.180 That's all I remember him from is just that.

02:43:00.680 And then the party, the party rock song.

02:43:02.600 and other than that i have no idea about this guy i just thought he was i just i mean the guy

02:43:07.520 what andrew federally wilkes career that's well here we go uh is that really who he is

02:43:13.880 that's the name they give on wikipedia so that's a thing that that's is there just one andrew wk

02:43:20.520 that's what we're gonna get into now okay um but yeah his albums first album is i get wet that was

02:43:26.080 a big breakthrough second one's called the wolf um had a big single of that was called never let

02:43:31.700 down people are looking to get in the music it's actually just good music um this most recent album

02:43:38.100 i think is his best um it's called uh god is partying and it's got some it's got a lot of

02:43:45.260 really interesting songs on it and he's kind of his origin musically was as this experimental

02:43:51.860 noise artist and but he's a multi-instrumentalist he plays all the instruments on he's got live

02:43:57.460 band but he plays all the instruments and writes all the songs himself are we are we talking like

02:44:01.260 mersbau or something or like what's that are we talking like mersbau experimental noise or

02:44:07.480 well it's like japanese crazy guy you know i'm talking about well actually don't but maybe

02:44:13.840 just kind of like drum machine weird screaming stuff all right kind of yeah i mean you can google

02:44:18.580 this guy and hate me later but yeah i kind of like that it's hard to find his early stuff but

02:44:24.300 you know i go deep and have a lot of his older weirder stuff um yeah that's kind of the story

02:44:30.060 of him and he was pretty big but then he fell off he disappeared and there's a few controversies

02:44:34.720 along the way that i saw occur um but just to give people some lore so um according to like

02:44:43.280 his original bio according to it was andrew was named after a drunk driver turned drugstore

02:44:48.560 cowboy turned murderer named andrew stevenson um who started calling himself andrew white who then

02:44:55.320 gave himself the alias of the white killer so that's where the wk come from is that true

02:44:59.980 who knows and that's kind of the wk who knows this is a common enough theme so enter wk around the

02:45:08.680 just before his third album came out he had this website um called the awk world and he would

02:45:16.180 interact with fans and answer questions and this was like before you know i think before social

02:45:21.640 media really really took off it might have been around when facebook was popping off but um this

02:45:26.460 is when artists just had their own website and web forums that was actually active on his web

02:45:30.300 forum and i to this day i think i'm the reason he closed down his web forum because i was trolling

02:45:35.640 him too hard i don't have any evidence of that but it was like me and 15 other people and i was

02:45:39.980 just fucking with him and then just one day disappeared anyway so what happens is you know

02:45:45.700 he answers questions for people and he's he's got his sort of motivational speaker platitudes you

02:45:51.240 know never let down you know keep on keeping on and one day he starts answering questions really

02:45:56.580 strangely starts uh talking about saying things like this is how the formation begins and then

02:46:03.240 starts writing answers just in numerical code that no one can decipher a very strange slow slow to

02:46:09.080 start and then something happens where the website gets hacked and andrew wk gets kind of taken over

02:46:18.960 by this entity called steve mike s-t-e-e-v mike and you know his website gets hacked and then

02:46:27.780 an entire web of other websites emerges up to 80 separate websites things like violentlife.com

02:46:36.620 and adultwomaninmirror.com kind of creepy stuff and i i'm not i don't think i'm overplaying my

02:46:42.500 hand when i say it's like david lynchian um i know aether i think it was you you said you like

02:46:47.340 david lynch as well but like really strange dark stuff and i'm gonna give people a couple of links

02:46:53.200 to look up here so i know this isn't a visual medium right now but if people want to look up

02:46:57.520 what i'm talking about most of these sites don't exist anymore but there's a few screenshots and

02:47:01.840 some records out there one of the sites is a wilkes crier w-i-l-k-e-s-k-r-i-e-r dot homestead

02:47:11.260 dot com slash index go there and it's just this old html site that kind of turns in a schizophrenic

02:47:18.880 rambling midway through but that's kind of the the joy of all this and it's a story of everything

02:47:24.360 up until like a few years ago but it's got screenshots of these like weird websites and

02:47:28.940 it was made by this entity this individual named steve mike who was accusing andrew wk

02:47:33.320 of being fake of owing him money he's got blackmail stuff on on andrew wk andrew wk isn't

02:47:39.700 who he says he is and he's got all these like weird trippy fucking images photoshop stuff all

02:47:45.540 these strange references references to how andrew wk oh well this is what i'm going to now so that

02:47:52.820 this is where the lore the andrew wk lore starts that andrew wk isn't a real person the claim is

02:48:00.340 that andrew wk is the creation of a series of sort of individuals um of of businessmen and that

02:48:08.500 there's not just one andrew wk there's a series of actors who play the character called andrew wk

02:48:14.240 and every album has a different guy playing it and his dad is supposed to be related to it andrew's

02:48:20.820 father and his dad and this is where the the conspiracy is interesting and i'll say this at

02:48:25.360 the top that it will be easy for some people to say that oh this is like an alternate reality

02:48:30.380 game this is a larp this is just some someone fucking around but there's enough evidence in

02:48:36.380 this thing and there's enough occurrences and admissions by andrew wk himself that's impossible

02:48:41.900 to tell what is fact and what is fiction and that and by the end of this i think i'm going to

02:48:47.460 establish that it's actually both and that's this sort of meta reality within a meta reality

02:48:51.980 and it as weird as it's going to get it's going to get weirder because at the start it just sounds

02:48:57.480 like a weird troll attempt like okay his dad is owned actually does own the record label that

02:49:04.480 andrew wk was originally on called bulb records so it's like oh the claim is that his dad's involved

02:49:09.600 in this sort of weird rock star experiment the experiment was to create this new type of rock

02:49:15.440 star that would represent energy and get people involved it's a new type of rock star for the

02:49:20.860 2000s because this is when he was starting to take off i don't know kind of yeah and here's

02:49:26.840 the connective tissue is that this isn't an altogether strange thing to happen that there's

02:49:33.440 been several proven conspiracies throughout the years of involvement of like the cia and the hippie

02:49:39.020 movement of this rock star that rock star being a fed or being planted somewhere so the idea

02:49:44.700 that something like this could happen isn't altogether strange oh well we did we did a

02:49:50.340 whole series on laurel canyon i mean laurel canyon is where the hippie movement was created created

02:49:55.540 the entire 60s and likely um everything nasa produced after the 60s yeah the nasa angle to

02:50:02.100 that is the wildest part and really i we did like one episode on that you probably did a better one

02:50:07.720 but you really come out of that understanding that frank zappa was cool like frank zappa was

02:50:13.380 the guy was like fuck all these hippies fuck all these gay hippies right well yeah but he was part

02:50:18.640 of the laurel canyon experiment too though i know but i was i was always he always seemed to stand

02:50:23.400 apart from that now you correct me if i'm wrong but i mean he definitely was different you know

02:50:28.560 for sure um however you know again he's got the connections he's got both both of his parents

02:50:33.580 involved in uh you know chemical warfare and psychological warfare so and just to get back

02:50:41.320 the underwk thing that's a good point and i i can see that one of the reasons that this theory

02:50:46.640 kicked off was because there was one concert in new jersey in around um in the early 2000s where

02:50:53.520 uh is andrew wk concert where there's clearly a person other than andrew wk on stage and it

02:50:59.340 became a big like what the fuck is going on and what year was this um when was it it was in new

02:51:04.800 jersey i think it was like 2002 okay because supposedly i did a little bit i did a little

02:51:10.280 bit i lied i said i didn't do any prep i did minimal but uh i did a little look uh but the

02:51:16.160 2005 is supposedly when the switch that might be yeah is that what okay because the guy that was

02:51:21.980 the in-between year if i remember okay between 2004 and 2006 2005 was like his mia year or

02:51:26.940 something like that and he came back he was supposed to release an album uh he like came

02:51:30.820 back and did the spoken word bit but then he released that album like only in japan and

02:51:36.840 korea i believe it was and yeah i guess yeah yeah i don't want to get too far ahead of it but no but

02:51:43.280 that that is relevant that that weird japan period where he stepped away from music for a while

02:51:50.080 but this is kind of what press precipitated that where he kind of left the scene after all this

02:51:55.280 shit i'm talking about happens um it disappears and but this was one thing where everyone's like

02:51:59.760 what the fuck's going on and the what happened was people were asking questions on the website

02:52:05.040 and this woman named christine williams was answering them and so yeah here's one of the

02:52:10.300 questions that i would ask i gotta hear it's like hey a lot of people uh don't seem to think that

02:52:14.280 was andrew wk at the nj show i'm one of them what's going on christine um and it was this

02:52:20.000 woman who's supposedly answering questions on site and she gives like a weird answer she's saying

02:52:25.160 that to answer all your questions there's been a lot of confusion regarding this new jersey concert

02:52:28.860 people have been especially curious about where andrew went after the show and whether or not it

02:52:32.720 was in fact andrew himself on stage um it was a spectacular concert everything went over very well

02:52:38.180 and the night was a success um everything was taken care of smoothly at this point all we can

02:52:43.880 do is look in the information we've been collecting and continue our research into the facts and it

02:52:47.780 it goes into this like answer non-answer so people like there was like there was like one

02:52:52.920 where they were talking about how like oh andrew wasn't moving properly tonight or something like

02:52:57.580 that we we worked out some technical difficulties and you guys still enjoyed the show or something

02:53:02.100 like yeah yeah yeah wait a minute wait a minute do they just have to like reprogram his legs

02:53:05.920 i don't know yeah it came off like that some servos some servos need to be adjusted

02:53:10.220 yeah that's shit like that and we're like what the fuck does that mean and then people start

02:53:14.400 PR team right like yeah and people start noticing that he looks different from album to album and

02:53:21.400 a lot they'll start comparing his press photos and like the jawline looks different or the

02:53:26.200 his tattoo placements I think these seem like different sorts of guys the the difference

02:53:30.980 between uh 2004 and 2006 Andrew WK is completely I mean there's the one uh there's a website where

02:53:40.280 is it i was just looking at this it's like a you know is there a conspiracy about andrew wk and at

02:53:47.280 the bottom it's like no hell no stupid it's one of those kind of websites you know you're stupid

02:53:51.460 if you believe that but but there was the pictures they took like they used a conspiracy theory

02:53:55.700 guys meme where it's got like old andrew wk on one side and new andrew wk on the other side

02:54:01.180 and this person these people actually look at this stuff they're going it's the same guy what

02:54:05.820 wrong with you it's totally the same guy they do it to us okay uh recently uh they have clearly

02:54:12.140 cloned jamie fox and the guy the little skinny-headed dude that is out there now that is

02:54:16.000 not jamie fox your head i don't care what kind of aneurysm you have your skull does not shrink

02:54:20.760 you know um they got some white guy to play jamie fox from looking at his skin yeah exactly exactly

02:54:26.580 they like they drag somebody through some like some sheetrock dust some like some of the

02:54:30.720 as it turns brown when you get it on the floor i think that kind of stuff he's not really black

02:54:34.600 not really white it's just ashy that's what it is

02:54:36.580 actually yeah

02:54:38.040 and then like but what I'm saying is people

02:54:40.640 come into our like we'll post on you know on

02:54:42.620 our channel it's like and just like post a picture

02:54:44.740 and be like with the shrugging yellow guy like

02:54:46.760 you know and people will be like

02:54:48.540 I don't you guys are retarded that is

02:54:50.560 clearly the same person I don't understand

02:54:52.740 what's wrong with your eyes

02:54:54.120 and I'm like nigga if

02:54:56.620 you don't see that that is not the

02:54:58.640 same person I don't know what's wrong with you in general

02:55:00.780 like it's not just your eyes it's your whole brain

02:55:02.860 something wrong with his medulla oblongata

02:55:04.780 that's not the man that won over

02:55:07.020 our hearts in collateral

02:55:08.380 yeah

02:55:09.740 like but he just did a movie called

02:55:13.080 they cloned Tyrone

02:55:14.100 I mean come on

02:55:16.820 they're not even trying anymore

02:55:18.900 like you know

02:55:20.540 like they have the conspiracy

02:55:23.140 theory cartoon on Netflix

02:55:25.140 now you have

02:55:27.380 you know Denver

02:55:28.260 they stole your name right

02:55:30.300 they call themselves the Paranormies

02:55:32.100 that was that was fucking disney bro fucking disney and i was thinking about that just to

02:55:38.560 do a tangent there i was thinking about that the other day because i saw your post and i'm thinking

02:55:42.000 is normie a mainstream word because i don't that seems like our thing i if it was like the

02:55:48.500 paranormals maybe but the paranormies i'm like that seems like it would have to be taken from

02:55:55.120 our side of the fence paranormies coincidence there's not there's as we say there's no such

02:55:59.960 thing is coincidences uh there is an artificial parent there's a fake paranormies on instagram

02:56:04.080 and there is a fake paranormies on youtube and they're canadian and um they do gay things like

02:56:09.800 lock arms and chug twisted tees on camera don't they quit after i trolled them they they didn't

02:56:16.200 quit after you trolled them they yeah they you trolled them and asked them about the tell them

02:56:21.220 tell dimes what happened oh yeah i like asked them how they got there like i like played it

02:56:26.140 off like i was one of their fans and asked them how they got their name and they said a pair of

02:56:29.460 normal investigators uh a pair of milk no i'm like no no you didn't okay that doesn't make

02:56:39.100 sense like i'm just trying to turn that over in my head i'm like that's not that's that's a lie

02:56:43.380 yeah this is big oh the guy's name is freaking johnny yeah and then the guy johnny right it's

02:56:49.500 like come on like obvious this that's the thing is like you know i kind of get the nervous chuckle

02:56:53.700 with the disney stuff i mean they're gonna send so i've been eating a lot of apple seeds to build

02:56:57.960 up my tolerance to uh cyanide but um i'm just i'm just joey dioxide what are you talking yeah

02:57:03.020 what are you talking about yeah it's a i'm a new type of guy it's a whole different kind of guy

02:57:08.240 looks just like the other guy though but i have no i don't know what they do but the idea your

02:57:12.940 description that they just link arms and drink twisted teas sounds like great content well they

02:57:17.620 got busted okay they do ghost hunting stuff right so they do like zach bagans type ghost hunting

02:57:22.960 shit you mean they run around with a camera yeah they run around with a camera and like you know

02:57:27.320 like an emf meter whatever the hell they do did you feel that right chill right right right but um

02:57:33.400 they got busted for doing fake content like doing fake ghost stuff so okay oh yeah some other

02:57:39.680 internet guy was like hey these guys are all fake i just say this a tangent within a tangent but i

02:57:45.800 had a buddy in high school whose house was used for one of those ghost hunter shows so i got like

02:57:51.360 a behind the scenes look of how they staged the shit and it's just funny what is it once you see

02:57:56.680 like it's a big crew it's not a small crew they used to get this shit because you got it like the

02:58:01.520 amount of lighting rigs they have to do to make these normal ass places look spooky right and all

02:58:06.560 the fog machines and all that shit um it was just they turned this kind of nice looking house into

02:58:11.340 like a blue filtered smoky sort of thing but um yeah i don't know it just you see like oh this is

02:58:17.880 all obviously just bullshit right well like with zach baggins and the other ones that are the

02:58:22.880 famous ghost hunters all there's all they're doing is just advertising for the hotel so they

02:58:28.560 can get some revenue really it's just you know tourist type stuff honestly yeah because we've

02:58:34.400 done this for there's no ghosts there's no ghosts i would never want to stay in a haunted hotel i

02:58:38.740 know what these people are i've learned one thing from films it's that being haunted is bad right

02:58:45.160 i thought we were on the same page right but that's why well you know we're being american

02:58:49.320 and you've seen that, or is it white people

02:58:51.460 like, you know, white people will do this

02:58:53.440 but they don't eat gluten, I think it's one of those things

02:58:55.340 I love that, and that's just

02:58:59.380 like a yes meme response, yeah

02:59:00.820 I'm going to climb Mount Everest

02:59:03.520 to find a ghost

02:59:04.740 and I'm going to eat farm to table, by the way

02:59:07.480 actually

02:59:08.040 yes

02:59:09.880 oh my goodness, can you guys hear that?

02:59:13.260 apparently there is a toddler

02:59:15.180 exploded in the other room, holy cow

02:59:16.800 oh i actually didn't hear oh good is aether gone oh good no no no no no that'll be mine

02:59:23.200 i haven't i've been i was gonna say on your end or no i'm not no i have a three-year-old

02:59:29.420 having a meltdown right now so every single one of us has children and at the same time

02:59:34.720 we just like looked over jesus christ no no not now yes no they need to know about andrew wk yes

02:59:42.400 so back to andrew wk so uh he's clearly i mean they've clearly got two different guys here as

02:59:49.540 far as i can tell at the very least two and a lot of people have noticed that his voice changes from

02:59:56.960 album to album like if you listen to andrew wk and i get wet he sounds markedly different than

03:00:01.520 what you would hear on uh you're not alone or any of the uh the later albums so i think there's a

03:00:07.540 lot to that but you know this this lore is kind of being fed to us by this hostile actor named

03:00:13.740 steve mike who is somehow involved in the creation of this puppet and then some people are thinking

03:00:20.860 oh again this is a troll but this is pretty much all confirmed by under wk so uh he leaves he's got

03:00:28.500 he leaves this one strange message on the site he confirms this in many different times and i'll get

03:00:33.200 on those in a second, but he actually confirms it here in a very strange way. Just to give you

03:00:37.660 the tone he's going for, he says, dear everyone. I'm just going to read it as is. It says, dear

03:00:42.260 everyone. I had no idea what was waiting. I got back to my room. I noticed I changed. Oh no.

03:00:48.480 Already. I didn't like the sound of that. I immediately went and looked right away. I noticed

03:00:52.480 that there was something messed up. I knew something was weird in the section right now.

03:00:57.300 I've solidified. We are the company. This was its insides. That's the only way the systems

03:01:02.840 that's the only way to the systems however there's a small part that thinks it could be someone

03:01:08.040 undisclosed in privacy i can't even imagine this but i have i'm just a witness you shouldn't see

03:01:13.440 any of this i talk about blackmail and it kind of goes on in these like strange conspiratorial

03:01:19.240 attitudes but he returns to these themes a lot like i am the company or we are the company

03:01:24.780 and um yes song lyrics i think like i said like i don't know if i mentioned it before we were

03:01:30.620 talking uh before the show or not but i i really haven't been hugely into him but i've been reading

03:01:35.600 a lot of lyrics since i'm researching for this and i think in some of his songs he directly

03:01:40.960 mentions the company and all that yep i'm glad you know that because i know exactly the song

03:01:46.020 you're talking i think uh i said we i we are the corporation we are the company i forget what song

03:01:51.500 that was yeah that's what it was i think it might have been from mother there's like this weird

03:01:55.620 album he did he's got two really weird albums one is called close calls with brick walls

03:02:01.660 and if you listen to that there's just like odd like haunting dark synth songs on there

03:02:07.900 and then this one called mother of mankind which is sort of unreleased stuff a lot of his earlier

03:02:12.820 stuff but like songs like i'm a vagabond and um we'll get into this cadillac album was was just

03:02:19.580 like piano playing that was weird but improv improvisational piano playing um and 55 um this

03:02:27.300 is just like a little bit of a tangent 55 is the letter of the alphabet that's e so 55 is ee which

03:02:33.460 is steve mike like he has all these like hints all littered throughout his music about this sort

03:02:38.600 of expanded universe but uh he says here he explains it a bit more in detail he says at the

03:02:44.800 end of 2004 an old friend of mine got into some business trouble and basically decided to take

03:02:49.420 it out on me to cut a long story short this person is someone i worked very closely with and had a

03:02:54.120 formal and a family business relationship with so you got a family connection there interesting

03:02:57.940 due to various complaints this person had with me they were able to turn my life and career

03:03:02.280 upside down i wasn't allowed to use my own name within certain areas of the u.s entertainment

03:03:07.380 industry so this leads into his absence from music he disappears for a while and aether you

03:03:13.880 had mentioned a couple times that he kind of disappears he does these two japanese albums

03:03:19.380 one's called gundam rock it's just like his cover of gundam songs and um there's a couple other ones

03:03:26.400 there but another one is 55 cadillac which is just improvisational piano experimental stuff that

03:03:32.080 seems you know it's really weird not a character for him right yeah yeah the the consensus on that

03:03:37.600 album was huh you know like i don't think anyone loves that album it's just hey he did a thing it's

03:03:43.400 actually very good at piano he's a very skilled piano player so at least maybe that someone's

03:03:48.980 into that but he came out with that and he also said at a live speaking event there's a couple

03:03:54.640 instances where he had he actually owned a venue in toronto called santo's party house

03:03:59.320 which is pretty successful for a while him you know he does like normal things like owns a venue

03:04:04.440 for a while and he he would have these like conferences because around this time he got into

03:04:09.340 speaking engagements like for some reason he's like i'm a motivational speaker now and he would

03:04:15.040 tour around the country you go to like south by southwest even and have these like rambling stream

03:04:20.700 of consciousness like experiential just like sermons he would give about life and partying

03:04:28.700 and positivity and just people would just you never know what you're going to get it's just him

03:04:32.840 rambling for a while and just switch gears away from music like for a long long time

03:04:37.280 and at one of these because this was like a known thing in the press this was like what the fuck's

03:04:43.480 up with andrew wk what's this steve mike thing this is weird where is he none of this makes sense

03:04:48.040 and then he's like okay i'm gonna do like a press conference and he admits it again he says

03:04:52.960 andrew wk was created by a large group of people they met and i was there and we talked about how

03:04:58.620 we could come up with something that would move people it was done in the spirit of commerce it

03:05:03.520 was done in the spirit of entertainment which usually goes hand in hand with commerce i was

03:05:07.160 auditioned alongside many other people to fill the role of a great front man so as we're going

03:05:14.440 like it sounds crazy but then like he's admitted many times that he is one of many where are the

03:05:21.600 others or is it a metaphor for something and then he will sometimes say that it's actually me like

03:05:27.240 and you'll get metaphysical with it and you're thinking okay is this just some some bullshit

03:05:31.680 but then you always return to no but there are admissions that there's some kind of like front

03:05:37.620 man experiment going on and then like it has to be real because why would someone walk away from

03:05:42.160 their career for like five years you know i mean like he also he turns around and basically like

03:05:48.260 recants that after and talks about how like oh there's always this weird conspiracy that like

03:05:53.060 people like lady gaga and beyonce and companies like mcdonald's and coke are all part of some

03:05:58.220 hidden agenda and they're not we're all just bringing light to the world yeah after saying

03:06:03.420 what you said after literally saying what you said yeah he'll he'll he'll just kind of mess

03:06:07.420 with people but there's always maybe not in the same thing right but like no no but but you're

03:06:10.960 right and actually he would have come up around the same time as lady gaga sort of in that milieu

03:06:16.740 of like new york city post-modern strange artsy early aughts yeah yeah and like if you look at

03:06:24.500 image it's really strange um and it's kind of jarring like what his the image he's known for

03:06:29.940 is like him with like blood running down his nose like staring dead eye to the camera

03:06:34.900 and then you're you're supposed to look at that and think oh he got punched in the nose or

03:06:39.360 something but actually what it is and there's all this other imagery he uses with his like

03:06:43.180 third eye illuminated or he'll put a cut there and then what it's actually supposed to represent

03:06:48.480 is his mind melting out of his nose like he's he's a really trippy guy who's got this image

03:06:54.400 of just being like a frat guy but if you kind of peel back the surface it's extremely esoteric

03:07:00.480 and if you go through these like i mentioned that multitude of websites during the steve mike

03:07:05.020 hacking there's all these references to like esoteric imagery and also like sierra mist for

03:07:11.380 some reason there's just weird shit in there like sierra mist is uh like the can the soda is like a

03:07:16.620 big prominent thing and it plays with uh theories that dave grohl was involved in andrew wk's

03:07:22.780 creation that's i've heard that to dave grohl's well that dave grohl like uh either masterminded

03:07:30.080 this whole thing or was like part of masterminding the whole thing and this is the thing you hear

03:07:34.000 that and that's like that sounds like a funny made-up thing and then here's a photo of them

03:07:37.740 like before andy wk was like they know each other like okay what the fuck is this then

03:07:41.720 he's not not involved in some respect that's the thing with dave grohl in general i mean like you

03:07:48.340 he played he played satan in the and the pick of destiny right yeah yeah and then and and then uh

03:07:54.620 did the album where uh was it the death metal album or whatever then his bass player or drummer died

03:08:00.300 yeah even when his band seemed to die yeah so just to get just to give you i i this is still

03:08:08.480 ongoing like i'd said and one site i discovered just before we went live people can go to it

03:08:13.580 It's stevemike.party, S-T-E-E-V-mike.party.

03:08:18.620 And it's, again, just all this extra shit.

03:08:21.480 And there's a connection made early on about, I just mentioned Andrew WK coming up in the New York sort of scene, the music scene.

03:08:32.320 And there's a direct connection between him and a guy named Vadislav Surkov, who is like a Russian propagandist.

03:08:41.520 and it's making the claim that they were traveling in the same circle so now it's like

03:08:45.440 as of like this year now russian propagandists are involved in the awk expanded universe and

03:08:52.860 if you haven't even gone through all this site it's all like new shit and then it's like okay

03:08:58.320 who's involved is it andrew wk himself doing it maybe but that's almost another level to it which

03:09:03.560 is what i'm going to get to in a second but just let you know like that thing kind of keeps expanding

03:09:07.680 with weird connections to this guy um hold on a second

03:09:13.340 yeah it's insane how far that rabbit hole just keeps going down

03:09:20.040 yeah um and i'm sure he's not like he's not the only uh musician entertainer that's got something

03:09:26.500 like this but this is you know i mean because like you know chapelle's been supposedly replaced uh

03:09:31.380 miley cyrus might have been replaced there's there's a whole there's a whole lot of them

03:09:34.920 and now there's also one aspect to this that i think adds the most critical layer to why this

03:09:42.040 is interesting because all of this up until this point you can be thinking okay he's just

03:09:45.660 maybe secretly like a normal guy behind the scenes and he's just very very creative but

03:09:50.520 um through my own research and through my own you know paying attention to his lyrics

03:09:56.960 it kind of his latest album is called god is partying and on the surface it might sound like

03:10:03.520 oh this he's gotten like a christian rock sort of thing because he's all about positivity he's all

03:10:08.520 about light and whatnot and that but if you read the lyrics it starts to sound more like a satanic

03:10:15.620 album i mean lucifer means light bringer right and he does mention light a lot so there's uh just

03:10:21.620 gave you an example there's a set of lyrics in one of those his most recent singles called everybody

03:10:25.860 sins which is actually a really really good song it's one of his best songs he's ever made which

03:10:30.920 is why this is so frustrating but here's some lyrics from the end of it i'm just going to read

03:10:36.400 them he's the dark in the shadow he's the meaning of it all he's the sun in the rainbow liberation

03:10:42.620 was the fall break the chain of the pattern take the painting off the wall it's the new

03:10:48.240 reign of saturn liberation for us all that's not very partying is it it's um it's it's kind of

03:10:57.840 strange stuff he seems to interchange the word party for a lot of other like he means that party

03:11:03.440 as in like group of people going towards this cause or whatever almost precisely and if one

03:11:10.180 other aspect that leads into this is that um do you know what uh being a thelemite is uh

03:11:16.400 it's that alistair crowley religion right he's basically that um i know he got heavily into

03:11:24.360 martin buber yeah and he did a um a speaking engagement at south by southwest i think in 2013

03:11:32.460 where he was on a panel basically admitting that like i i'm gonna get called out for this because

03:11:38.680 i i want to call it satanism but it's not but it is sort of that do do what they will will be the

03:11:44.520 whole of the law very esoteric almost kabbalistic um and if you yeah martin buber was hugely into

03:11:51.880 the same thing too yeah like and i believe he died in israel yeah like and a lot of if you look

03:11:56.980 at the imagery in his music videos like you see baphomet you see the unicursal hexagram you start

03:12:03.920 seeing all this like sacred number stuff the number 93 is very very important to them so

03:12:09.880 you know if we take this all for what it is like let's start to put some of the pieces together

03:12:16.200 there is some at some level there's a conspiracy going on here there's some conspiracy either it's

03:12:21.620 a group of people that created andrew wk which all signs point to yes but it seems inarguable

03:12:27.480 that it's being used his music his image and this thing called andrew wk is being used as a way to

03:12:34.820 smuggle in this sort of luciferian ideology into the mainstream that part seems inarguable to me

03:12:41.740 and through his public speaking and it's got a kind of a veneer of positivity and new ageism to

03:12:48.960 it but like he's admitted openly that oh this is the religion i follow and it's sort of this like

03:12:53.920 hedonistic baphomet stuff and then but um aether you had mentioned like what is the party we would

03:13:00.580 think that the party is just having fun no to him party is a a ritual um and that there's one other

03:13:08.240 thing that i discovered around 2021 and again it's very difficult to parse how involved he is in all

03:13:16.100 this but there was uh what was purported to be lost journals that were written by Andrew WK that

03:13:25.100 fell into the hands of someone that owned by a former roommate of his and then it was all these

03:13:31.060 notebooks from like the early 2000s yeah but it was like in his writing and everything and it was

03:13:36.040 like him kind of explaining everything what he wants to do and I actually went through page by

03:13:42.680 page of this thing and i i saved the parts i like the most i won't go through all of it but

03:13:47.820 he says if this is andrew wk and it might very well be him leaking this information

03:13:53.620 but he talks about how this entire experiment called andrew wk is a mega ritual it is like a

03:14:02.660 30 year project that he's embarking on why not 33 maybe yeah maybe right maybe 93 but he says

03:14:12.620 in his books he says it's going to take at least 30 years for this to come to fruition

03:14:16.200 but it's like he was setting out he's like a high school dropout too so um he's like this is what i

03:14:22.800 want to do is engage in like a mass almost a mass brainwashing ritual he's talking about how he's

03:14:28.760 going to like infect people or smuggle in or launder these ideas through like pop music and

03:14:35.360 rock but like expose people to these ideas covertly so like when you look at the andrew wk thing what

03:14:42.060 is so fascinating to me is it's not just one conspiracy it's it's it's like a meta conspiracy

03:14:48.460 it's a conspiracy within a conspiracy and if there's like a three or four different levels

03:14:53.420 where if any of this is true it's weird and fucked up because like even if he's not created

03:15:00.720 by a cabal of entertainment executives that just means it's all from him but that also means that

03:15:06.360 he's trying to do this he's trying to do this a weird luciferian sort of thing on people and but

03:15:13.580 the i think what maybe fucked him up and you know some people might disagree with that there might

03:15:18.800 be some people who like that sort of thing that's fine no judgment here but you know it seems like

03:15:24.540 an odd thing to do i think what might have stood in his way is that he's not as popular as he used

03:15:29.480 to be that um this might have sound like a really grandiose cool plan many years ago when he was on

03:15:37.820 the upswing and everyone was talking about andrew wk but now even music journalists are like oh yeah

03:15:43.300 it's that fucking steve mike thing i don't care i don't you know he's not actually like the top of

03:15:48.340 the pops right now so all this stuff going on it's like yeah it's it's more of an eccentricity

03:15:53.540 but like it's it's still something that's going on and if you read through the lyrics of his album

03:15:58.740 like it's it almost sounds like a schizophrenic meltdown plastered in like cool musicianship

03:16:05.760 um yeah i mean like if it's all him it kind of gives me almost like uh jared leto vibes like

03:16:13.880 my girlfriend's brought it to me several times like hey jared leto's like starting a cult and

03:16:18.120 no one's doing anything about it yeah he yeah he actually would take off to the desert like and

03:16:23.180 like missed out on all the covid came back and he's like what the hell's going on yeah dude he's

03:16:27.880 just allowed to start his own fucking gathering out there yeah yeah if we were to do that i mean

03:16:32.900 you know because i would have to try together that's a great point because if you go into the

03:16:37.720 andrewwk fandom right now you go on his subreddit go into any of these groups you'll find people

03:16:43.840 that kind of do treat this as a cult he's not the cult leader but they're just into this like

03:16:49.620 meta lore this thing that like turns in and almost devours itself like where is it beginning where's

03:16:55.060 then like the the facts are like he still was effectively chased out of music and this steve

03:17:02.200 mike character does seem to exist like steve mike is a real legal entity and he mentions this like

03:17:10.560 some people think oh it's a pseudonym but if you read his journals he talks about sm like it's a

03:17:15.320 real guy that he knows so it's like he does say he used to call himself that too that's the thing

03:17:20.440 like he'll switch between steve mike it's a guy he knows but it's also him but then you think like

03:17:25.400 is what version of andrew wk is this if we do believe that there's multiple actors which he

03:17:31.320 has admitted to things like that and then it the the grand plan if you are to believe andrew wk

03:17:39.100 himself he says like he says he wants to create this sort of mega ritual to create his own

03:17:45.900 unreality like he wants to do effectively like some kind of weird spell that that's there's no

03:17:53.100 such thing as truth it's this contradictory information so like i said it's like a like a

03:17:58.860 tesseract of conspiracies like there actually is no truth in this entire thing but there's

03:18:04.460 the things that don't seem true you could actually say happened i mean steve mike doesn't seem like

03:18:09.340 he's a real guy but he but he actually is that's weird it's like you know there is no conspiracy

03:18:14.560 against him but then why was he chased out of music who like why would someone chase themselves

03:18:19.620 out of the music industry and like make no money for like five years that's a that's either like

03:18:25.920 that's either true or a schizophrenic level of commitment you know what i mean it's a friend

03:18:31.820 marketing yeah like like faking your faking your own yeah it's on a level yeah like almost like

03:18:38.660 faking your own death almost to an extent but not you're not dead like you you make yourself

03:18:43.280 like unattainable almost to make people want you more right because he they talked about too how it

03:18:47.600 was like the height of torrenting so like people were still torrenting that japanese album or

03:18:51.400 whatever sure i mean it didn't it didn't work for david bowie yeah i mean he's still alive

03:18:58.940 is he still alive oh absolutely yeah david bowie uh he just what did he do he put on a wig and

03:19:05.580 then pretended to be his own tour manager oh is he i haven't heard this one he didn't yeah he did

03:19:11.100 he did an interview after he

03:19:14.780 quote died and it was literally just him

03:19:16.840 in a wig

03:19:17.240 I gotta see this

03:19:20.280 I would love some new David Bowie music

03:19:22.580 I'm not even a huge fan of David Bowie

03:19:24.400 I'd just like to hear some new stuff

03:19:25.900 I don't remember what his last album was

03:19:28.300 but there was a lot of symbolism and stuff

03:19:30.160 like Resurrection stuff

03:19:31.180 Was it Aether?

03:19:32.900 Or was that the song?

03:19:34.080 I don't know

03:19:36.860 I suppose you also subscribe to Tupac Shakur

03:19:39.720 being alive that's probably the most accepted one um i'm not sure kupak's alive or not i don't

03:19:44.560 really honestly don't care to be fair i really don't care um like the rapper we watched we did

03:19:51.980 a thing he'd probably be pretty close to death if he was alive still right he was it wasn't really

03:19:57.820 like one of the he wasn't really one of the partying types like he was like the good guy

03:20:01.640 right um i don't know about all that he was a drama guy or something right he was an actor

03:20:07.800 that was his deal yeah like he would he did drama shit before he ever like quote unquote was a thug

03:20:12.480 yeah that was the whole joke about tupac is that he was the thug life gangster guy but he was

03:20:17.500 kind of like a drama kid like this he was actually a poet guy yeah yeah poetry and acting and stuff

03:20:23.820 yeah so that's anyway i i didn't know the guy i don't know that's not one no as far as like

03:20:29.860 well anyways we were doing uh we were doing research for a michael jackson episode and um

03:20:35.380 came across like you know this whole

03:20:38.700 long documentary on all

03:20:40.800 these black

03:20:41.680 entertainers

03:20:44.840 who've been replaced

03:20:45.600 and like Steve Harvey came up

03:20:48.560 and this guy came up and that guy, Cedric the Entertainer, he's dead

03:20:50.740 right? Is Cedric the Entertainer dead? I forgot which one

03:20:52.640 yeah

03:20:52.860 so is Bernie Mac

03:20:55.140 yeah Cedric and Bernie both died right but they were like

03:20:58.080 black people love that cloning shit and like the replacing

03:21:00.320 people shit right that's what I'm saying

03:21:01.980 so it was like

03:21:04.160 almost to the point where like well it's like whatever but you know and what's funny is they

03:21:09.120 don't um white people don't believe in this as much right like most black people think that dave

03:21:13.480 chappelle is not dave chappelle right but if you talk to any white people about it they're like oh

03:21:17.440 come on john that's just silly you really like that the problem with black people is that they'll

03:21:22.560 you kind of hold on hold on you said the problem oh yeah but i'm like let's i thought we're gonna

03:21:29.080 keep a pg-13 here that's okay it's paranormal it's okay but i'm also like they will believe

03:21:33.480 literally every conspiracy theory like you can go up to a black person right now and make up

03:21:37.600 a conspiracy theory they're like yeah i know they'll act like they've heard it before so

03:21:41.340 it's like they'll probably believe that they're clones if you bring it up like that the person

03:21:45.160 you're talking to that's pretty fucking hilarious but also i mean they did that it's a passive

03:21:50.560 admission that they just they're admitting that they look the same like i didn't say it you guys

03:21:54.960 thought you're all clones that's actually pretty funny i'm gonna test that i'm gonna test that we

03:22:01.620 that well we have a semi conspiracy theory black guy at work and he's fun so where's he now what's

03:22:09.300 the the flavor of it because every i find like every race has got like a conspiracy theory that

03:22:13.780 they like the most like i find like like like black people are really like obsessed with like

03:22:20.000 the queen and aristocracy and stuff like that um what happened to get out of we talked oh we were

03:22:27.340 talking about we don't talk about some stupid arguments people have at work right um one was

03:22:32.680 we had an argument over how many apple seeds it would take to actually kill a man with cyanide

03:22:37.420 that's a that's a work argument that's how you know you're bored another one was another one

03:22:42.560 was um whether or not john madden was actually nuts because he didn't want to fly that that his

03:22:49.520 rationale for not wanting to fly was actually irrational and therefore he was nuts so anyways

03:22:53.980 we that brought us into another argument and somehow we got into um oh shit i lost my track

03:23:00.740 what i was gonna say now what was oh my god i'm still thinking about the apple seeds one because

03:23:05.980 what was the number you came up we didn't i didn't come up with one but we're just gonna test

03:23:10.440 because apparently it's like a 20 to 30 apple seeds ground up can kill a man like the cyanide

03:23:16.520 right and i'm like well i've been eating apples like when there was a there was a thing on facebook

03:23:21.600 like in like 2009 that i saw it's like you've been eating fruit the wrong way and what happens

03:23:26.020 if i eat the stem and core well that's yeah you're supposed to take the stem off and then eat the

03:23:30.880 apple from the top to the bottom i eat the whole thing yeah all the way down top to the bottom and

03:23:34.680 you don't get that core the walls of the core don't exist when you eat it you know vertically

03:23:39.400 as opposed to around horizontally right uh something to do with the cell structure anyways

03:23:44.980 So you eat the seeds, too.

03:23:47.120 And they're like, well, you know, ground apple seeds are supposedly dangerous.

03:23:50.160 I'm like, dude, I've been doing – I eat an apple every day at lunch.

03:23:52.460 There's, what, eight to ten seeds in every apple?

03:23:54.900 I guess I'm the –

03:23:55.260 Well, because I'm also thinking, like, if this were true, then there would be, like, old wives' tales and urban myths about apple poisoning.

03:24:01.660 Like, that would be in the zeitgeist a lot more, I think.

03:24:04.020 Right, right.

03:24:04.680 So we – you know, that was one of the big stupid arguments at work the other day was how many apple seeds would it take to kill somebody.

03:24:09.460 I said, listen, I tell you what, I am going to make sure that I masticate my seeds every

03:24:14.540 time I eat an apple and see what happens if I don't get like a sick stomach or something.

03:24:18.300 Because that's what they're saying.

03:24:19.120 They're like, no, you're clearly just swallowing the seeds, Johnny.

03:24:21.400 You're not actually chewing them.

03:24:22.600 So you're not getting the cyanide effect.

03:24:25.340 Do they know what digestion is?

03:24:27.340 Well, that's the thing.

03:24:28.340 That doesn't sound like it.

03:24:29.380 Yeah.

03:24:29.980 But like when you swallowing, I don't know.

03:24:31.860 It's the point.

03:24:32.640 I don't know.

03:24:33.820 Like we're trying to like unpack the logic here, but it's like, it's not true.

03:24:37.500 No one's going to die from it.

03:24:38.500 like if you chew the seeds it's not gonna like kill you more than if you swallow it but i like

03:24:43.560 the number i came up with was like 10 000 that's just a number that maybe it's 10 000 apple seeds

03:24:48.720 ground up it would have to be a whole lot more than more than you could eat in just a couple of

03:24:52.900 apples i'm sure it's not like what's the other one like what was the other old wives watermelon

03:24:58.980 seeds you don't need watermelon seeds to grow a watermelon in your stomach i'm sick of these old

03:25:03.260 wives yes and their tails these fucking catty bras just making shit up like that's one of those

03:25:10.480 old wives tales where i don't know why it would be invented and what was that to prevent like

03:25:15.360 there's too many kids eating watermelon seeds who gives a shit let them do it right we gotta

03:25:19.200 stop and you know what's funny we're speaking of watermelon seeds isn't it wise tale isn't it what

03:25:24.680 wise like w-i-s-e no old wives like old wives i did not know that wife genuinely yes that should

03:25:32.980 be enough for you not i knew the joke like my old wives tale you know you know like i knew the bit

03:25:37.700 but i didn't know that was what it was actually yes it's old wives still yes yeah people been

03:25:43.140 distrusting wives since time immemorial i mean have they been wrong ever are you wrong to not

03:25:51.160 no no you're not these are the same people that will punch you in the middle of the night because

03:25:55.140 they had a dream about something you did is old wives tale the like a pro they dream excuse me

03:26:01.380 It's something they dreamed you did

03:26:02.600 Maybe like an old life tale is like a proto-conspiracy

03:26:06.080 Like it's just some shit you heard

03:26:07.320 Well, what it is, is like, you know

03:26:09.420 Nana keeps telling all these tales

03:26:12.360 Or whatever, right?

03:26:13.460 And, you know, I don't know

03:26:15.120 Back in the day, people lived to like 900, right?

03:26:17.600 This is what you did before TV

03:26:18.760 You just lie to kids

03:26:20.080 I mean, after TV

03:26:23.220 They still do it, I still do it

03:26:24.360 I lie to my kids all the time, what are you talking about?

03:26:26.520 I can't wait to be able to lie to kids

03:26:28.300 Like, maybe not my kids, but my grandkids

03:26:30.920 for sure i'm gonna lie to them oh absolutely especially about i mean like about their about

03:26:35.940 their parents absolutely yes damn it are we pro boomer now no we're not pro boomer at all my mom's

03:26:43.100 a boomer is your mom a boomer your parents boomer no i don't think so she's the one but like an older

03:26:48.400 gen x i don't know what what is that then yeah kind of in the same boat i think my mom's like

03:26:53.020 maybe technically but maybe not technically i'm not really sure because my mom's not but like my

03:26:57.560 father-in-law is and they're they're in like a between area because i was complaining but i

03:27:03.120 thought i was safe to complain about boomers one day and then he's like i'm a boomer and like

03:27:06.680 well i guess you should fucking kill yourself then right whoops yeah no my mom is like turbo

03:27:19.560 fox news boomer i i'd uh shane gillis has a great bit about having a fox news dad and how

03:27:28.160 it's better than having a fox news mom yeah i can at least i mean not saying it's much better but

03:27:35.320 like my stepdad's favorite uh fox person was tucker so he was one of those guys and now

03:27:42.840 i've yet to ask him if he's lost his mind yet he probably follows his podcast who's on fox now

03:27:49.120 that people would give a shit about because it was tucker and then it was um fuck we're getting

03:27:53.360 back into politics again i'm sorry i wouldn't be surprised if he gave up fox over that sean hannity

03:27:58.120 was like the only the other big guy there yes yeah it was literally forehead yeah just a fed

03:28:05.000 just a guy who's like running whatever the government tells him to say at this point it's

03:28:08.840 forefed forehead i don't know man it's just i haven't watched regular news in so long i think

03:28:17.200 my mom same i think she's graduated to newsmax and what's the other one what is that it's like

03:28:23.760 newsmax and there's another one it's like well actually newsmax was the one who interviewed

03:28:29.460 that david grush guy the ufo guy right yes yep the the uh the whistleblower what quickly i know

03:28:38.120 we probably covered this on the show but i haven't heard it what's your quick read on that guy and

03:28:42.460 this whole ufo disclosure thing right now anybody who's ex-cia ex-fbi it's all bullshit i mean

03:28:49.120 there's no such thing as x any of that stuff um yeah it's all just yeah i mean it's

03:28:57.640 scam bank man fraud got all those charges thrown out so ufos yeah i got like a bunch of huge

03:29:04.160 interviews yeah we had a take on our show um that you know i want to hear what you think about it

03:29:10.600 because there's a lot of people on our side i i like ufo stuff maybe that's just because i love

03:29:14.800 ufo stuff don't get me wrong i love all the ufo stuff it's fascinating like the fact that these

03:29:18.420 things like like the uh the phoenix lights i don't believe in aliens i don't either but like

03:29:22.980 obviously there's craft of some sort once they start talking about like yeah once they start

03:29:27.460 talking about the un-interdimensional angle to it i perked up like okay yeah here we go like let's

03:29:33.520 see let's talk about this but um a lot of people on our side were saying oh this is project blue

03:29:39.300 beam for people who don't know that project blue beam was this like declassified thing in the 90s

03:29:44.980 which was a plan from i think the cia to fake uh extraterrestrial contact landing to you know

03:29:52.640 usher everyone into like a one-world government something like that just to purposefully trick

03:29:56.440 people with an alien thing uh so people are saying oh this is just project blue beam especially

03:30:00.840 people on our side who who like to ignore things but the point i was making was you know let's say

03:30:06.620 it is project blue beam the awareness of project blue beam is part of project blue beam like it's

03:30:13.500 unrealistic that they would do a side an exact psyop that people are aware of so if there is a

03:30:18.860 the psyop itself is banking on the pop culture being aware of that so and i guess the angle i

03:30:26.060 was taking was and maybe this is kind of defeatist but it's like an effective psyop you can never

03:30:31.620 really stand outside of like if you're aware of it you're that awareness you have is also part of

03:30:36.940 the psyop in almost like a weird meta way oh sure what do you think about that 100 i agree with you

03:30:43.360 100 i mean if a retard like me can figure out what happened at sandy hook i mean that's part

03:30:48.760 of the psyop right you know yeah it's like they kind of part of it could be they want to see who

03:30:54.080 purposefully puts their head in the sand about this and i'm not saying like it is what they're

03:30:58.700 saying but i'm like no it's definitely not what they're saying i mean that's part again the whole

03:31:03.420 thing is part of the psyop um and according to uh we've had wayne mccroy on the show he's an

03:31:08.760 he's an author um several very good books uh he informed us that blue beam never actually existed

03:31:15.140 the project blue beam itself is in fact you know uh we just have to get our politics politics right

03:31:21.480 and then the aliens are going to want us right right exactly but that's also like the stories

03:31:26.980 they tell it's like the the they're really interested in our developments and they thought

03:31:32.180 they think we're so smart i'm like it seems also like a human-centric story a story that a human

03:31:38.200 would write very much yeah absolutely everything like why would something from somewhere else give

03:31:44.740 a shit about you know what i mean it's the stuff that we've written it's thank you gene roddenberry

03:31:48.840 you know thank you for all of the uh or all the other science sci-fi uh stuff that's when did we

03:31:56.040 talked about this in the in oh no a3 in that conversation about how long star trek uh trekkies

03:32:03.140 and uh the the uniforms at um cosplay have been a thing no but it's been a pretty long time like

03:32:09.760 pretty much since like conception of the original series yeah i fucking love star trek but that

03:32:14.620 shit is like literal propaganda for nasa the uh the original series yes the original series came

03:32:20.700 out november 66 and then at the uh they literally have an episode revolving around like the 60s

03:32:26.160 moon fucking landing and like the rocket and like all that shit yes and then in 67 there was a sci-fi

03:32:33.080 convention and at the it was less than six months after the show had started there was an entire

03:32:37.740 cadre of people dressed as as people from star trek but johnny was new and exciting sure from

03:32:46.600 the very beginning yeah i mean i guess like but we talked about this at work actually today somebody

03:32:51.800 mentioned um tech you know like how uh the government is tech is 20 years ahead of us now

03:32:56.440 bullshit if there are craft that are you know some sort of tesla technology reverse engineered

03:33:02.880 or whatever the black budget skunk works stuff out at lockheed martin um you know that's that's

03:33:10.480 that's far further than 20 years ahead but i you know i i always bring up whenever somebody says

03:33:15.200 that it's like well gene roddenberry and all of his apple products in the original star trek

03:33:19.960 series you i mean he you know facetime was star trek for sure yes facetime uh the apple watch

03:33:26.100 the tricorder and the iphone um the idea of texting and texting pagers yeah one of the things

03:33:32.800 we were talking about on the show was this interesting phenomena that i'm kind of feeling

03:33:37.140 my way through but it's like the psyop to fandom to politics pipeline so these things like would

03:33:44.540 start off as a government psyop then a fandom forms about them that would be the star trek

03:33:49.680 area and also ufo fandom generally because you know the ufo fandom is like this self-contained

03:33:55.020 thing that they have convention ufo conventions and everything yeah they almost perpetuate it

03:33:59.380 themselves yeah and then that's work for them and then those people get into politics this the kids

03:34:04.780 of those people that's the david grush guy it's like a the fox molder effect right where like the

03:34:09.040 people raised in the culture of ufos get into the bureaucracy like i'm gonna find the ufos now

03:34:13.840 and it's just this sort of like cyclical thing yeah yeah x-files is like literally one of my

03:34:18.820 favorite shows ever but like chris carter uh the guy who uh wrote it and like produced it he uh

03:34:23.460 i don't know if he produced it but he directed it um he had a friend in the cia that he would

03:34:27.920 regularly talk to like exactly that's not a coincidence yeah like a lot of that stuff is

03:34:35.940 like i love all the mundanity of uh of x-files about how like it actually it seemed accurate

03:34:42.260 about how fucking broke they seemed about everything

03:34:45.440 and staying in shitty motels and stuff.

03:34:47.900 Yeah, I love the X-Files.

03:34:49.460 I do too.

03:34:50.340 I'm going to have to go back and rewatch.

03:34:53.040 I'll tell you what I did.

03:34:53.820 I fucked up and I went back and rewatched

03:34:56.560 just what's called the Myth Arc episodes,

03:34:59.620 which is like the central alien plot,

03:35:01.300 which is actually the worst part of the show.

03:35:03.460 It's so fun.

03:35:04.320 But the good stuff is like the weird...

03:35:07.780 The side quests.

03:35:08.480 Yeah, that shit is dynamite.

03:35:10.660 the main quest where it's like alien bounty hunters the idea of writing the show like that

03:35:15.360 is brilliant yeah yeah to write like to write like a side quest that just take place in different

03:35:21.120 parts of the of the season yes that's all tied together like every episode isn't following the

03:35:25.680 main storyline right like they and but like sometimes the little side things intertwine

03:35:29.500 here and there like just that was all fantastic yeah and it was there really isn't a show that's

03:35:35.620 been like that i don't think that really took it seriously and they call the monster of the

03:35:39.700 week episodes what a stupid show they do um it's like two guys they do paranormal shit but it's

03:35:46.200 like i don't remember there's a simon peck or some one of those like a comedy british show

03:35:52.980 there's one like that but there wasn't i'll come back to it yeah but the monster the weak ones i

03:35:59.200 remember there was one episode where it was just hey here's the loch ness monster what are molder

03:36:03.320 and scully gonna do about it you know like shit like that they find a mummy or something but like

03:36:08.960 there's nothing i don't know like the 90s was a better time for conspiracy theories not like

03:36:13.800 we're in the zeitgeist where the conspiracy theories one now no one really trusts anything

03:36:18.360 and we don't know what to do about that and that's the whole interesting thing about the ufo disclosure

03:36:23.380 and i guess just to mention andrew wk that what interested me so much about that was that it was

03:36:30.060 like an evolution of a conspiracy theory it's like a conspiracy theory that multiplies the closer you

03:36:35.880 look at it and there actually is no bottom to it and it kind of like it's like being stuck in a

03:36:40.960 hall of mirrors and then you realize that that is the conspiracy it actually that entire being lost

03:36:47.960 in there is part of like the ritual as he sees it and that's why i'm like that that's it's not a

03:36:53.800 puzzle you can actually solve and that's a very modern type of conspiracy i think that's something

03:36:59.700 that everyone now experiences where like i don't know what the answer to anything is i don't know

03:37:04.820 like everything seems so evolved like you said like you know whatever we are aware of right now

03:37:09.820 from the government what they really have is like 15 years ahead this is just what they allow us to

03:37:14.380 see so i'm like i can't even believe the truth i can't even believe disclosure okay if you can't

03:37:20.620 because disclosure is on purpose right yeah absolutely what do you do well think look at

03:37:25.880 the timing again like what's the stupid show is supernatural by the way oh okay supernatural they

03:37:30.940 tried to do that sort of x-files dynamic but it was i never oh fuck i remember that that's like a

03:37:35.360 girl show too it is oh i remember girls in high school watching it like that i have yes i have

03:37:40.580 two girlfriends that love that one of these girl shows you hear about yeah it's like that's other

03:37:45.920 vampire show or something it's like buffy yeah one of them one of them a vampire show

03:37:52.000 one of my wife was watching this she was bored and watching the vampire diaries that's the one

03:37:57.400 yeah supernatural shit's apparently easy just easy to do it's like murder uh fucking serial

03:38:04.320 killer shows oh and all women love that shit it's a catnip for them yeah it's also here's like

03:38:11.280 not to get into a political thing i don't mind any of that shit but here's something people can

03:38:16.300 take into their like racial side of things it's that vampire shows are the only acceptable

03:38:23.060 media where people are permitted to like old white aristocracy aristocracy like if you look

03:38:31.040 at vampires like what are they they're like a bunch of like you know aristocratic white people

03:38:34.960 like big mansions and they dress like that you're not allowed to just like that stuff so it has to

03:38:39.920 be vampiric but yeah but then true blood's like hold my beer yeah i don't even watch that i know

03:38:46.020 i've never seen it either but i know there's non-white vampires in it as well i said then

03:38:50.500 true blood's like hold my beer oh true blood yeah i think i've watched like five minutes of that

03:38:55.460 show i don't watch any i don't watch any new tv if i watch anything i'm gonna if i'm gonna watch

03:39:00.320 television it's gonna be like aqua teen i watch a lot of frazier frazier yeah god i feel i feel

03:39:07.280 bad for myself because everyone's just watching cool old stuff i watch new stuff and it's bad

03:39:13.020 it's terrible you and skull dude skull is like he swears it's no skull's just investigating yeah

03:39:18.380 he's investigated looking for he's looking for uh you know for mandela mandela effects and some

03:39:23.720 you know predictive programming but uh honestly you're just watching tv bro stop he makes me

03:39:28.280 kind of want to watch the new west world yeah no don't see watch season one and then just drop it

03:39:34.680 okay i love the old movie season one of west world actually could be it's like a self-contained thing

03:39:41.060 you can just it ends nicely and just say yep nothing else after that i mean that's how the

03:39:45.880 movie is the movie is just a thing and it's just like they get out it's over like i think the last

03:39:51.420 show i got very excited about was probably season three of twin peaks and how long ago was that

03:39:57.080 that was like a fucking acid flashback dude a long time ago honestly like i loved it it was

03:40:03.560 awesome but like the first time i watched it i was like what the fuck is going on and i watched

03:40:07.660 like five or six more times eventually and yeah i got really deep into looking into electricity

03:40:13.800 and and things like that and the aging aspect of it yeah once you kind of get like david lynch

03:40:20.980 is a fucking genius well he's yes but he's also a conspiracy guy like if you know the stuff that

03:40:26.360 we do you see like like a lot of the esoteric stuff in the black lodge if you really look

03:40:32.120 into it like oh this is based off of something only freaks like us would know that that makes

03:40:37.160 me happy and then but to a regular person it's just kind of a weird show see the the thing with

03:40:42.200 him too is a lot of people like like andrew wk to tie it back to him in a way was was really

03:40:48.900 interim or whatever but i feel like a lot of people see him as and then it's like he just

03:40:52.300 wants to show you like horror for horror's sake or freaks for freak's sake right but it's like

03:40:56.100 i feel like he's actually a very positive guy like it's especially in his personal life like

03:41:01.060 he's really into like meditation and stuff and i feel like a lot of what he's doing is just

03:41:05.420 having people experience different realities maybe through dreams or different mediums or

03:41:10.860 whatever but he particularly likes dreams yeah consider this like if anyone else made twin peaks

03:41:16.840 it can only be made by david lynch because he has a genuine love and appreciation and fondness

03:41:22.720 of america and americana like he for sure loves small town life and if anyone else made twin peaks

03:41:30.100 they would do it where the town is secretly racist everyone's inbred like the darkness in

03:41:36.200 that town is that the people themselves are bad but he tells a story where these these are good

03:41:39.600 people you like these people it's not critical of them and like all of his movies like he just

03:41:44.920 loves you know that's not it's so i don't want to call it quaint but it is genuine and he will

03:41:50.780 tell a horror story from that vantage point what's lurking supernaturally around there but it's like

03:41:57.360 that the jordan peele would do the opposite where no the town is the evil part you know right yeah

03:42:03.000 like like he sees things happening in twin peaks as in like things are being inflicted on the town

03:42:08.980 you know like things the town is causing whereas you like these characters yeah you like seeing

03:42:14.920 what happens to them and they're genuine people and there's like a genuine like a like i don't

03:42:20.260 know who's got such a singular voice anymore like i don't think there is a new another david lynch

03:42:25.960 i don't know who the new crop of interesting directors is but like like i'm i don't yeah i

03:42:31.480 don't think they're dude i've i saw a thing where it was like 20 up and coming new directors or

03:42:37.900 a hot director something like that it was something terrible and every single one was black gay black

03:42:43.600 and gay black trans gay and trans and black and brown like it was just like one after you're

03:42:49.420 never going to get another david lynch you're never going to get even even aside uh he did have uh

03:42:54.500 what's his name uh david ducophany played a tranny in twin peaks i apologize for the crying

03:42:59.580 that's okay well that's what they like originally that was almost treated like a joke and then in

03:43:05.300 season three they had to make it serious and real you know we we stand by trans david dachovny

03:43:11.960 because the whole joke was hey it's david dachovny dressed as a woman get a load of that

03:43:16.760 right now it's stunning and brave okay i get it he did kind of do the bit he did i mean

03:43:23.380 you know you can't not not do the bit completely you know what i mean and still be on and still

03:43:30.100 be allowed and still be allowed to do your thing i can't blame someone like david lynch for not

03:43:36.280 having hate in his heart because to go against that thing in our pop culture you need to be like

03:43:41.920 someone like me that's really angry but i'd rather him not be a bitter angry guy and that's gonna

03:43:48.000 mean he's gonna ride certain waves that i don't like whatever he's old i don't give a shit yeah

03:43:53.180 it's different than it's it's different than uh him doing that is a lot different than uh jim

03:43:59.560 cavizio's uh you know movie that just came out yeah i just think uh it's not his hill to die on

03:44:06.440 pretty much yeah yeah but also like in terms of directors i'm sorry if we're leading too far off

03:44:12.340 the beaten path of paranormal stuff here but like the ones i think of directors that are

03:44:18.220 interesting aren't as compelling as david lynch like ones with a unique voice some people are

03:44:24.500 probably gonna shoot me with guns for saying this but like a wes anderson i'm not a huge fan of a

03:44:29.700 lot of his later stuff i'm like okay there's a guy who's stylistically he's got a thing going

03:44:33.700 okay there's like uh ari aster who did you know beau's afraid at hereditary i'm like okay i don't

03:44:40.760 know if he's like stylistically you know he doesn't stand out but i'm like okay maybe one day

03:44:46.660 but no one's as like no one's like slapping their style on the table and saying look you've never

03:44:52.220 seen anything like this before you know like i don't know like i'm trying to think of who that

03:44:57.140 would be right aside from wes anderson but that even that feels gimmicky yeah i mean like i said

03:45:05.620 you're never gonna get another another lynch you're not getting another kubrick you're not getting

03:45:09.680 nope nope

03:45:11.940 I was gonna jump in a second

03:45:14.440 again but the baby was crying um yeah

03:45:16.320 say actually Wes Anderson does a lot of callback

03:45:18.320 to like really old style films because

03:45:20.240 he uses miniatures and like all this stuff

03:45:22.080 I was also gonna ask you if you're gonna see

03:45:24.180 uh asteroid world

03:45:25.260 I I did I did not like it

03:45:27.860 um we actually we review that on

03:45:30.280 the episode that's gonna be coming out

03:45:32.140 uh tomorrow actually

03:45:33.900 me and my co-host saw it because

03:45:35.800 we I do a lot of movie reviews

03:45:38.140 in the show, I'm trying to do less because I only want to

03:45:40.040 reserve them to either stuff

03:45:41.820 I really love or stuff I don't like, but

03:45:44.000 for a good reason.

03:45:45.940 I could go on a whole rant about Wes Anderson,

03:45:47.980 but I will say I did not like

03:45:49.780 Asteroid City. Asteroid City,

03:45:52.160 that's what it was.

03:45:54.240 I didn't like

03:45:55.780 French Dispatch either. I actually

03:45:58.020 hated French Dispatch, and I

03:45:59.900 was all set to like it.

03:46:03.260 Long story short,

03:46:05.160 I think something happened with Fantastic

03:46:06.980 mr fox that broke his mind and he's been getting a lot kookier and more cartoonish and more over

03:46:13.080 the top since then he doesn't really make real stories anymore that's almost like a meta

03:46:19.460 commentary on himself and i don't appreciate that anyway it makes it makes you think like is it

03:46:24.340 either this is just something that happens these people when they get to a certain point or is it

03:46:29.000 like the fans are now basically writing the movies like you said it becomes like a caricature of like

03:46:33.760 him like it didn't always need to be like the critics and the people who like watch his movies

03:46:39.300 are kind of essentially with words writing his next movie because he wants to write things

03:46:44.120 they're going to want to see on purpose and they become like predictable almost yeah well also he

03:46:49.860 got into this thing where it's like look look at all the big stars in this movie and then you have

03:46:54.020 to like does this matter like does the royal tenenbaums worked because everyone fit their

03:46:58.980 character not because the stars right yeah but this one's like oh and here's tom hanks i'm like

03:47:03.560 tom hanks didn't actually need to be in this one and he could have been played by anyone

03:47:07.640 yeah i could definitely i fucking hate tom hanks and i fucking hate bill murray

03:47:11.960 and he's like fans of both of them wait wait wait hold on hold on say that last part again

03:47:16.940 you hate not i don't yeah can't stand bill murray what i i don't hate bill murray i guess

03:47:23.980 it's less of a fucking hate he more annoys me i i'm just kind of done with bill murray like i get

03:47:28.480 his i get why he shows up and does bill murray things but i think i think i've seen the best

03:47:33.440 of bill murray and i if he if i saw no more bill murray again i'd be okay with it because now he's

03:47:39.440 just showing up and just it's i don't know he stands out i don't really see him acting that

03:47:45.360 much anymore i don't mind groundhog day and i don't mind uh what's the freaking hunter s thompson

03:47:51.580 movie he did I can't remember which one

03:47:53.280 if you're living in Las Vegas the

03:47:55.320 90s one oh oh Bill Murray

03:47:57.280 um uh where the buffalo roam

03:47:59.320 yes yes that was good though

03:48:01.440 yeah I like that and I

03:48:03.400 liked uh Ground Holiday but other than that

03:48:05.440 I just he just

03:48:07.260 he began and then he just out of

03:48:09.400 nowhere became like because that stupid Zombieland

03:48:11.420 movie became like this huge thing like

03:48:13.260 fucking Bill Murray like this huge

03:48:15.280 deal for no reason and also showing

03:48:17.440 up in coffee and cigarettes as himself

03:48:19.520 like oh shit yeah like

03:48:21.000 he became too much of himself if that makes any sense i think it was because that movie because

03:48:26.420 that was like in that movie they're like it's fucking bill murray because he just shows up

03:48:30.680 and then there became this rumor about bill murray like he might just show up at your house party

03:48:35.720 he's a guy who just does weird things like a wild and kooky guy that just sounds sad it just sounds

03:48:41.680 like an old man wandering the new york streets at night showing up with young people i'm like you

03:48:46.120 should have kids to have grandkids like you shouldn't you should be on a porch somewhere

03:48:50.640 you shouldn't be like making cocktails for 17 year olds i don't get this right didn't bill

03:48:56.820 cosby get arrested for that yeah i mean that was the thing about bill cosby is like bill you're

03:49:02.180 bill cosby like you're america's dad all these women want to have sex with you you don't need

03:49:05.500 pills what's wrong with you i like the idea they don't he's he's one of the first let's say this

03:49:12.080 bill another one black people that were not ready to take bill cosby was a pioneer of rape

03:49:18.800 he was the guy who just did it for the love of the game he didn't need to

03:49:22.620 and this is coming from no you're definitely okay i can see why you got kicked out of that

03:49:31.760 chat for defending rape now was it me i don't think oh wait the other day you were talking

03:49:37.040 about i don't know how i ended up here but somehow i got i was defending rape i at the

03:49:41.100 end of the day where i was like that is not you don't want to do that's not where you want to be

03:49:44.640 when jesus comes back what it was it was uh no and i get it because those women think like you

03:49:49.420 know if you give them a you know you say hi and you boink your eyebrows at them that's rape you

03:49:53.600 know what i mean yeah well it was it was i was kind of going off of that i'm not i don't like

03:49:57.920 this guy but like the bronze age pervert you know vitalism anti-longhouse sort of thing and i'm like

03:50:02.900 well you know masculinity is sexual aggressiveness you know you can go down that path and there was

03:50:09.060 a friend of ours named Theron

03:50:10.500 his line was you know I think

03:50:13.140 there is a middle ground

03:50:15.020 between the matriarchy and

03:50:17.000 rapists were right

03:50:18.100 playing the sensible

03:50:21.260 section. You know though doesn't he

03:50:23.040 bang dudes?

03:50:24.580 Bap?

03:50:26.180 Well that's the thing it's like you know

03:50:27.620 it's the cycle

03:50:29.460 it's the cycle it's like Bap

03:50:31.780 posts a tweet I like I follow Bap

03:50:33.680 Bap posts some homo shit I unfollow

03:50:35.780 Bap like that's just how

03:50:37.800 it goes yeah and uh i don't want to go too much on him i don't either i could go off for it well

03:50:44.120 we did have video on on him once but i but but i essentially agree with that and um you know

03:50:50.920 the idea of the long house is basically just the matriarchy but you know it's one of those

03:50:54.920 thought experiments where i'm like i'm gonna go down this extreme is this extreme more true than

03:51:01.100 the parallel extreme yes and it sounds crazy but there's some like let's just say this extreme and

03:51:07.100 Anyway, I don't want to bore people with this.

03:51:10.100 You got to hear it because of Bill Cosby.

03:51:11.660 Yes.

03:51:12.240 Well, I don't want people to come away from this thinking I'm like a pro-rape guy.

03:51:15.620 No.

03:51:16.220 No, but that was funny.

03:51:17.400 But that was funny.

03:51:18.200 Okay?

03:51:18.500 And jokes are funny.

03:51:19.060 I don't care what anybody says.

03:51:20.180 Dude, jokes are funny.

03:51:21.060 People need to lighten up.

03:51:22.320 Bill Cosby, you don't need to like the game to appreciate a man operating at the top of

03:51:27.520 his game.

03:51:28.300 That's all I'm going to say.

03:51:29.460 Absolutely.

03:51:30.320 Like, yeah.

03:51:31.360 Where Bill was at the top of his game, OJ was not.

03:51:35.120 Like, everyone does that about Genghis Khan.

03:51:37.100 it's like you know dude what is a tragedy death of a million is a statistic that one person raped

03:51:44.420 it's a tragedy this guy raped a million people you say damn yeah and and they and they have like

03:51:51.080 worldwide museum exhibit tours of this the most famous rapist ever right yeah don't don't talk to

03:51:58.860 me until you've been to the rape museum right actually don't talk to me you've seen gang

03:52:03.180 I guess Genghis Khan raped China into existence.

03:52:06.820 Well, yeah, we don't believe that.

03:52:08.580 Allegedly.

03:52:10.160 Somewhere out there, like I know my guys,

03:52:12.500 the listeners of our show,

03:52:13.480 they probably got like a Dimes bingo card right now.

03:52:15.780 They just checked off elongated rape discussion.

03:52:20.660 Isn't that a free one, though?

03:52:22.420 Isn't that a free one, though, for you?

03:52:24.000 It's a free one.

03:52:25.320 Well, you know, it's free.

03:52:27.040 Oh, there's so many jokes we can do.

03:52:28.400 I know, I know, I know.

03:52:30.180 And to think

03:52:31.720 I haven't made one Radiohead joke this whole time

03:52:34.640 What joke are you going to make?

03:52:38.780 There's no joke to make

03:52:39.660 The world's greatest band

03:52:42.760 Actually

03:52:43.580 Oof

03:52:44.380 Alright we're going to leave that one alone

03:52:48.840 It's like Thomas 7-7 and the Beatles

03:52:54.300 He's just got such a hatred for the Beatles

03:52:56.160 I don't hate Radiohead

03:52:57.800 They're one of the bands

03:52:59.340 Okay, they fall into the category of—unfortunately, they have way too many letters to be in the category, but they should have four letters in their name because only four-letter name bands can be that pretentious.

03:53:14.040 Well, let me tell you this.

03:53:15.240 Show me your locked soul and give me an hour, and I will pick that lock with the key of Radiohead.

03:53:22.140 Dude, I've listened to all of their stuff.

03:53:23.840 I own most of it.

03:53:24.940 I know.

03:53:25.160 I got a mix.

03:53:27.160 No joke.

03:53:27.880 i've got like a google doc with the mixtape that i show people and if you give i'm i can take you

03:53:34.320 on a journey where at the end of that journey you're like dimes you saved me all right all right

03:53:40.180 i like i like how i haven't like recommended any andrew wk songs either absolutely not yeah

03:53:48.080 we're like yeah not even for like a like a break song we're actually way past break which is fine

03:53:52.020 do you guys care do you need to does anybody need to take a break or do you guys want to take a break

03:53:55.420 I was going to ask, I'm like, are we still in the first hour?

03:53:58.620 No, we are way into the second hour.

03:54:00.240 You guys want to take a quickie?

03:54:01.680 I mean, how much time are we talking?

03:54:04.240 Do you got to take off, Aether?

03:54:06.640 Well, that's going to say, if it's not much longer, then I'll just finish now.

03:54:12.040 We're at about an hour and 45.

03:54:14.540 Oh, shit.

03:54:15.120 Okay.

03:54:15.500 Yeah.

03:54:16.400 If you want it, I can make it without peeing until...

03:54:21.100 I said peeing, I should say pissing, because I'm a guy.

03:54:23.600 It's all right.

03:54:24.060 I can make it to hour two without

03:54:26.240 pissing. Yeah, that's fine.

03:54:28.200 Alright. Yeah, we'll just do this without

03:54:30.120 a break and then people get to listen to our

03:54:32.020 dulcet tones without having to listen

03:54:34.120 to Andrew WK.

03:54:36.120 If people want to go, and I'm

03:54:38.180 just going to take a little detour here, if people

03:54:40.100 want to find, listen to the

03:54:42.140 song Everybody Sins

03:54:43.360 and look at the song Babylon.

03:54:46.880 If you look at Babylon,

03:54:48.260 the music video, there's a lot of really trippy

03:54:50.000 imagery in that, but it's also

03:54:52.040 a really, really good song.

03:54:53.380 so here's here's a question about this andrew wk thing um what's the point like what would be the

03:54:59.780 point of creating a fake artist to do all this stuff who has like some sort of a strange uh

03:55:07.580 split personality changes his entire um all of his you know all like halfway through his career

03:55:13.840 just like changes it all up right i mean oh no go ahead i was gonna say there's two layers to this

03:55:20.280 And it's kind of what I was talking about before that I genuinely think that this, you know, fractal of a conspiracy, because that is what it is like, like a house of mirrors of conspiracies, which is why I find it so engaging.

03:55:33.500 I do think it is what he said it was, which is this sort of a new type of strange ritual, like a ritual in the sense that is certain phrases repeated.

03:55:44.720 It has he's trying to, like, jailbreak certain ideas into people's minds, either him or the cabal that runs him or the whatever group is involved in this.

03:55:54.740 I think it is genuinely trying to feed something into the popular culture that introduces these Thelemic ideas about, you know, do what they will, almost like a Luciferian hedonism, you know, with a shellac of positivity.

03:56:11.060 i i do think that is what it is um it's whether or not that is being forwarded by this one insane

03:56:18.740 man or if it's a group of people i actually i think everything is true and not true and that's

03:56:24.140 also like the thing itself is i keep using the word cognitohazard it's like it's this thing that

03:56:29.620 magnetizes you once you're aware of it it draws you in and it makes you question like what it

03:56:34.600 you're just trapped in it now it's almost like this it's like a new type of meme a new type of

03:56:40.280 21st century meme like a conspiracy within a conspiracy but i think the goal is to introduce

03:56:46.320 these like esoteric ideas to people okay and aether i think i cut you off there sorry no i

03:56:52.200 was just gonna say almost like the same thing pretty much just i think whether he is like a

03:56:56.640 person or just like it's an entity doing the thing i think though this is something that is

03:57:03.040 pretty much standard in the music industry and maybe the you know the masks so to speak slipped

03:57:07.700 on him right like if i get his his particular situation became more obvious to people whereas

03:57:13.440 other people who probably experience the same thing aren't like caught you know in that in that

03:57:18.740 way or and or this is you know part of the marketing ploy yeah and also the conspiracy is

03:57:24.640 the conspiracy right precisely if you think of like conspiracy theories as a lot of people know

03:57:29.860 them that's a very 20th century idea like there's a conspiracy there's a mystery and you uncover the

03:57:35.080 mystery and there's a bad guy and you reveal the truth the evolved conspiracy that we were just

03:57:40.600 talking about this episode is the more layers you peel back the more europe like the idea of you

03:57:46.700 uncovering the conspiracy is part of the conspiracy it's increasingly difficult to stand outside of

03:57:52.880 the psyop is the idea like it keeps the complexity of the conspiracies keep evolving into these other

03:57:59.480 types of meta narratives and there's more mirrors in the house of mirrors so i think that's what

03:58:03.780 i found so fascinating about this it's like there is no answers just this sort of um

03:58:09.760 like a like a homeostasis like a whirlpool of ideas that's just always drawing things in

03:58:15.580 and once you're in it you can never really escape it and that's a very 21st century sort of thing

03:58:20.660 um it's not it's not a comfortable thing it's it's not something it's something that's still

03:58:24.820 kind of changing and it's only you know weirdos like us who give a shit about it

03:58:29.120 i know that that might not be like a thrilling answer for people but that is

03:58:36.300 why i brought it to the pros yeah well i mean we do we do what we can to expose the fake and

03:58:45.100 the gay around here as much as possible uh it seems that like the um yeah he was he was one

03:58:52.800 of those again the early aughts there was a lot of esoteric stuff being put out in a lot of

03:58:57.960 different spheres right music wise um conspiracy stuff was starting to kick off really big in the

03:59:03.620 early aughts it was more of the wild west internet for sure and uh oh wow how this just rolls into

03:59:10.560 another topic really quickly uh and a lot of stuff happened like youtube right youtube was the big

03:59:16.340 place where you could set all the conspiracy stuff until you couldn't anymore right and then they

03:59:20.720 right and then and we talked about that we talked about how at least in my experience um and i'm

03:59:28.540 an internet dork and have been for a long time um back in high school and stuff like that and um

03:59:34.420 it was very clear to me that the the new technology and the new internet spaces always seem to be

03:59:41.540 dominated by fringe ideas first first and foremost and even places like like library and odyssey like

03:59:49.980 Whenever there's a new platform, the first people across the finish line tend to be the conspiracy people.

03:59:55.720 Like the first video you're going to get is going to be a moon landing video.

03:59:58.720 It's going to be a flat earth video.

04:00:00.020 It's going to be one of those things.

04:00:02.060 That and like video game reviews.

04:00:04.680 People just churn those out.

04:00:06.000 It's those two things that are every new platform.

04:00:09.280 And that's sort of, they keep that until it reaches critical mass.

04:00:14.820 Because you get the conspiracy guys and then you get the fringe political people of every stripe.

04:00:18.520 Left and right.

04:00:19.160 you get the nazis that you get the communists and then they build up a critical mass and

04:00:23.180 eventually they're excommunicated and that is the story of youtube everyone talks about like

04:00:27.620 the wild west days it's like yeah they the types of people making the most content tend to be

04:00:34.980 people on our side of the thing until they can afford to just tell us to fuck off and we gotta

04:00:39.760 like find a new home yeah and they do and then something comes up it'll be a bit shoot or

04:00:48.260 whatever that is and they migrate over there

04:00:50.200 and then they get banned

04:00:52.260 or that gets shut down.

04:00:54.480 BitChute's kind of clunky but

04:00:56.140 it is the place where you can get the weird conspiracy

04:00:58.220 stuff still. Yeah, BitChute

04:01:00.300 kind of became the hub

04:01:02.300 for that. I was on library

04:01:03.940 very, very early on and I liked

04:01:06.160 library and they just lost their SEC

04:01:08.040 case so there won't

04:01:10.080 be a library in the future

04:01:12.000 which means there might not be an

04:01:14.000 Odyssey. I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know.

04:01:16.360 There's a lot of speculation but that's the only

04:01:18.080 technology i was excited about now i really like odyssey it's like odyssey is really cool because

04:01:22.220 we can re-upload everything all of our videos all of our live streams go up on our odyssey channel

04:01:27.040 i don't know what to worry about you know it's just like it's like their live streaming's gone

04:01:31.240 pretty good has it um cool i we did our first live stream not long ago um it was lagging until

04:01:37.760 we messed with the bit rate and we fixed it i think a lot of people don't know how to

04:01:41.260 mess with the little technical stuff but um youtube usually solves all that for you but

04:01:46.540 you got if you have a little bit of technical acumen you can make odyssey work a bit better

04:01:50.360 we stream through uh i just cast obs through pilled and odyssey and d live all at the same

04:01:58.100 time through restream yeah that's something i'm like i use obs um and but we're banned on well

04:02:05.100 we were we had a community strike on youtube so we couldn't use youtube that week but we're

04:02:10.020 probably going to we lose our channel very often we would have way way more subs you know yeah

04:02:14.760 we're banned uh we're yeah there's the fake paranormal is on on youtube now um we may we

04:02:19.840 may try putting up another one but you're big enough though i mean that's the thing you've

04:02:24.020 got enough you know i work in marketing so you know people could throw their fucking

04:02:28.420 pistols at me but you know you have a good brand awareness out there you know i think you just

04:02:35.320 crossed like was it 20 000 subs you were saying 25 on 25 000 on telegram and that's not you know

04:02:40.920 that's not bad for telegram i mean like the the really big channels like ghost ezra was like

04:02:46.780 turned into a big conspiracy channel it's private now but uh they had over like a hundred thousand

04:02:51.420 but that's you know whatever 25 000 for being a fringy conspiracy podcast that actually names the

04:02:59.180 jew and uh it's not a small amount of numbers it's not a small amount of numbers no we were doing

04:03:04.620 before we got booted off of zencast we were doing 70 000 downloads a week yeah we're on zencast right

04:03:11.360 now and we're probably counting the days and this is a frustrating thing that you know eventually

04:03:18.060 every time you get chased off of a platform you lose like 20 to 30 of your followers it's just

04:03:24.000 like it just is a thing that happens and the more you're chased off of platforms you know the less

04:03:30.320 people you bring with you and you got to restart all over again and that's something i keep returning

04:03:34.000 to like that's why I like

04:03:35.880 Odyssey so much because I'm like okay here's a thing that's

04:03:37.920 never going to kick us off it uses blockchain

04:03:39.840 technology it's not hosted on servers

04:03:42.200 like this is a new type

04:03:43.980 of system that's safer

04:03:45.600 we can set up a base

04:03:48.100 camp here and we'll never need to worry about this shit

04:03:49.980 again and here we are so I don't know

04:03:51.800 I guess it's BitChute but I'm

04:03:53.980 not crazy about BitChute either I think they're like based

04:03:55.900 in Israel or something like that I don't

04:03:58.000 know yeah that makes

04:03:59.980 me feel happy and safe yeah

04:04:01.820 um but no i like odyssey yeah and this thing with library no but again the sec all that stuff is

04:04:09.320 it's just it's just theater i mean it's not like i mean it holds the we could do a whole show on

04:04:15.780 the conspiracy behind crypto um i mean how long have the the preppers and the patriot people been

04:04:24.740 like don't you let them digitize your money now all the motherfuckers like y'all need to get some

04:04:30.040 xrp yeah another aspect of quicker that i found very amusing was that um it attracts the same

04:04:38.840 type of people who hate pumping and dumping stocks who hate boom bus cycles and the very

04:04:45.420 the first thing these people did across the door was like let's pump up this bitcoin and sell high

04:04:49.960 and just engage in every market manipulation tactic they can yeah it's it's crazy well because

04:04:58.160 well they're advertising to boomers yeah and uh i don't know if people are as excited about crypto

04:05:03.960 as they used to be i think a lot of the people who are very what bullish on crypto they see the

04:05:09.020 writing on the wall that okay something's happening here it's it's too mainstream you know they're

04:05:14.340 gonna nationalize something i don't know it just doesn't seem as exciting as it used to be maybe

04:05:19.960 that's just my the word on the street i don't know the fact that they ask you about it on your taxes

04:05:25.340 this leads me to believe that something's coming with it yeah well yeah and this is why you know

04:05:29.420 people like i was like i lick my finger i put it to the wind i'm like something you don't have to

04:05:33.080 talk about your crypto but i i don't something's happening and i know i don't like what's happening

04:05:39.900 i can't tell you exactly what it is but i get a feeling that something bad's gonna happen i've

04:05:45.060 talked to enough money-minded people financial experts who are saying like yeah no this is a

04:05:50.720 you know it's it's not what it used to be get out now it's it's gonna be bad i don't know but

04:05:55.680 people i trust i saw in a cryptic dream yeah why the fuck not i got good dreams i got a good ass

04:06:01.660 mind david lynch said that and then made a film right yeah don't don't doubt dreams hey everyone

04:06:09.600 at home don't doubt the power of just making it up i mean that happens all the time so we do

04:06:17.020 around here we just make it no we don't just make it up we do a lot of research right here hey we

04:06:20.960 believe in phenomenology i think if you actually just put it out there becomes a seat a reality

04:06:26.160 seed it's it's not unreal once you say it and hey i gave birth to it there it is you're welcome

04:06:33.060 my hey my lies on average are better than the average truth you're going to find so

04:06:38.820 there you go yeah i mean there's sometimes i've i've actually read some of the some of your

04:06:44.540 bullshit and uh i find myself astounded many times okay yeah i i've uh i've consumed your

04:06:54.060 horse shit absolutely i know we're all dude this is what we do dude this is great like yeah no

04:06:58.200 this is now that you've read it it is yeah what'd you say and now that you've read it it is yes um

04:07:04.520 no but like making so i guess source i made it up yeah what are you gonna do about it prove me

04:07:11.000 wrong prove me wrong that's something that and people can't do that yeah let's think and like

04:07:16.200 we were just saying now like no one believes in anything everyone believes in everything everyone

04:07:21.520 just kind of goes off their instincts like what is truth not to get too you know metaphysical about

04:07:27.600 it but is this like a long way of saying we're all going to start our own world weekly news

04:07:31.940 yeah why not that was good bad boy dude let's bring that back dude yeah that was great i mean

04:07:39.420 And that's probably one of the most famous photographs in history is Bat Boy.

04:07:43.240 And everybody knows World Weekly News.

04:07:45.180 Everybody does.

04:07:46.440 When I was a kid, like, I didn't know what Photoshop was.

04:07:50.120 And I would see that, like, because it's been around forever.

04:07:52.720 I would see that as a kid.

04:07:53.420 I'm like, they can't fake that.

04:07:55.620 Like, that's, it's a photo.

04:07:56.860 Like, what the fuck?

04:07:57.620 Like, obviously.

04:07:58.100 He still got me pregnant.

04:07:59.180 And he gave me triplets.

04:08:00.660 It's like, obviously the story's fake, but there is a Bat Boy.

04:08:05.180 There is a Bigfoot, you know?

04:08:06.440 Right, right.

04:08:07.060 well those yeah those are the same guys to grow up to say well of course the moon footage is fake

04:08:12.200 they went to the moon in the secret black budget way yeah it's like they of course they went to

04:08:17.940 the moon but they just didn't film it you know there's i don't know like i like back to that

04:08:23.020 like there's i don't go too much into the moon stuff because there's like like a hundred a

04:08:31.040 centuries worth of shit about the moon right you know but like i said my father-in-law he believes

04:08:37.120 like we watched i sat down and watched like a bunch of netflix or it's like amazon prime

04:08:41.280 documentaries on the moon and it was like look there it looks like there's a medieval castle

04:08:46.960 on the moon what could that be about he's like well there it is i'm like okay sure there's like

04:08:52.960 knights and horses on the moon but like pull on that thread a bit more you know

04:08:58.020 well yeah if they're showing the documentary i mean if the conspiracy documentary is on netflix

04:09:04.480 or on amazon prime you can bet your ass it's going to be you know it's going to be

04:09:09.460 well well produced and also totally true well also i learned that anyone can get a movie on

04:09:16.580 amazon prime i didn't know this like you you we could make a documentary tomorrow and make the

04:09:22.340 application process isn't even that hard really amazon yeah well the bar yeah i've seen what's

04:09:28.260 on amazon the bar is pretty low yeah it's like it's not netflix it's hard to get on netflix hard

04:09:32.140 to get on you know all these other places but we might have to yeah there might have to be like

04:09:36.180 some gay shit or some black shit or some gay black shit to get on netflix like you know but

04:09:41.960 also we could make a gay black documentary you know what's going on with the gay blacks

04:09:47.460 we could i mean and i'll bet you money tarik nasheed would be all over that

04:09:53.480 you would here's a great thing about black people is that they just i don't know what it is about

04:10:00.280 them like if you look at the stats like there's more black trannies than any other type of race

04:10:04.500 but if you ask the average black person there's no gay black people or they just ignore it right

04:10:09.720 so it's like tarik nasheed like this guy is screaming at you that he's gay gay for white

04:10:14.700 men and they're just like

04:10:16.480 there's blinders I don't know what it is

04:10:18.920 because if that was a white guy white people

04:10:20.560 would be calling him out I've never seen

04:10:22.620 black people call out Tariq Nasheed just for

04:10:24.700 being just a gay

04:10:26.700 guy well it's called it's called the

04:10:28.600 download for a reason but also

04:10:30.740 he's just screaming it he's like I'm gonna

04:10:32.380 all I talk about is being

04:10:34.560 fucked by white guys right but he

04:10:36.400 but he's doing it but he's that's his

04:10:38.700 cover he's like he's Ayn Rand

04:10:40.600 of the black people yeah he's doing

04:10:42.740 the what was his name

04:10:44.680 common filth remember common filth yeah yeah he used to like he used to be like look at this

04:10:49.900 degenerate what he did he started white girls fuck dogs meme right and oh yeah yeah because

04:10:55.300 he started looking at like all the nasty and it's actually jewish chicks but whatever um

04:11:00.200 i never liked i don't even like people who like traffic in that right now like i get it's like a

04:11:07.220 meme that it's kind of like a funny thing but i'm like i don't i don't want to just i don't like

04:11:11.460 validating that yeah i don't i don't either but what i'm saying is like it's like he's like

04:11:16.200 he's doing he's doing the whole like we're common filth is like look at this degeneracy

04:11:20.740 and but he's actually you know but tarik is actually like y'all look at this

04:11:25.740 just a little side thing there there's this guy i saw on um you see these guys all the time where

04:11:33.560 they're like hard hardcore white nationalists and so but they're they obsess so much about like

04:11:40.180 like bbc mandingo interracial stuff that they end up with like a five gigabyte folder of like

04:11:46.460 black interracial porn or something right right like they're all they're explaining to you like

04:11:50.860 wait man you gotta take your women back you don't want these like huge virile beasts you hear them

04:11:57.340 talk about it and they're talking about it almost as if they're into the fetish themselves they

04:12:02.480 stare too hard again it's well to bring it current it's the the the maga crew talking about hunter's

04:12:09.840 dick yeah yeah exactly you know there's a psyop in and of itself right there dude holy shit

04:12:17.020 yeah here's like i think it's a good rule if if as as conspiracy minded people let's draw a hard

04:12:25.520 line about talking about penises every day right that should be a good line if you find yourself

04:12:31.180 talking about penises a lot you gotta walk away from the computer for a while yes it is it's time

04:12:39.120 to it's time to log off you know it's like if you if you're if you're not like you know white

04:12:44.580 women fuck dogs any of that shit it's like you know what like you can't bring that up in a

04:12:48.300 normal conversation that's a weird thing to know a lot about

04:12:51.880 i could work flat earth into any conversation i can't work in all this penis data there's no home

04:13:01.300 for that no uh not without coming off yeah i'm thinking i'm thinking about how i can i'm like no

04:13:09.060 I mean, jokingly, like you can bring it up once or twice, but once you start bringing

04:13:12.560 it up a lot, people, you start becoming suspect, you know, most normal people will pick up

04:13:18.220 on the fact that you're talking about penis a lot.

04:13:21.080 Most people, believe it or not, it's a whole career.

04:13:25.440 Consider this.

04:13:26.340 Most people don't talk about penis at all.

04:13:29.840 I work in construction.

04:13:31.420 I'm going to have to, we talk about penis.

04:13:33.860 All right.

04:13:34.120 Well, in my daily life, it doesn't come up.

04:13:36.280 Well, that's just because like you work.

04:13:38.060 i know you're in america so you got like weird measurements there so you like measure things in

04:13:42.100 penises yeah right it's penises and bald eagles yes y'all niggas will go through any length not

04:13:48.220 to use the metric system absolutely have you seen how they've been measuring asteroids meteorites

04:13:54.420 or whatever the hell they're calling nowadays no i'm not sure if this is a penis related is this

04:13:59.220 a real thing though well there's this one guy at the i think it's at the jerusalem post and it's

04:14:04.000 He's the guy who's like, an asteroid the size of 14 Cadillacs is about to pass by Earth.

04:14:11.180 An asteroid the size of, one was like emus, like 58 emus.

04:14:15.900 The other one was 22 orca.

04:14:17.980 Like, weird system of measurement.

04:14:19.960 An asteroid the size of 4 million pennies.

04:14:23.780 Right.

04:14:25.880 You can't keep measuring things in cash.

04:14:29.380 Well, what about, actually, speaking of that,

04:14:31.280 um nasa is supposed to land on a what's the number after trillion

04:14:37.960 but i could i've never thought about that i know whatever it is google's like a big one

04:14:43.580 whatever it is it's 10 of them so it's 10 and then it's trillion billion million thousand hundred

04:14:51.180 right so it's 10 dollar uh asteroid or whatever it can't whatever the fuck it is it's flying around

04:14:58.260 in the place that's not real.

04:15:00.180 That's one of those things

04:15:00.800 where people are like,

04:15:01.320 oh, wow, NASA's going to land

04:15:02.520 on this asteroid

04:15:03.280 and it's going to take

04:15:04.020 all this stuff and bring...

04:15:05.120 That's exactly like they did

04:15:06.480 in that one movie

04:15:07.260 and then they had to blow up

04:15:08.280 the moon or something, right?

04:15:09.420 And Bruce Willis cried.

04:15:10.740 Oh, yeah, Armageddon.

04:15:12.040 Yeah, I know.

04:15:12.660 Yeah, I was trying to...

04:15:13.840 A bunch of...

04:15:14.480 It's also...

04:15:14.920 It's like, yeah,

04:15:15.300 it's worth $50 trillion.

04:15:17.040 I'm like, yeah,

04:15:17.460 but in resources

04:15:18.960 is what they always say.

04:15:19.800 Yeah, but it's like cotton.

04:15:22.100 Like, technically,

04:15:23.120 it's like worth...

04:15:23.700 Yeah, it's worth a lot of money,

04:15:24.520 but we don't actually need

04:15:25.340 that much cotton.

04:15:26.080 right water just a cotton asteroid man could you imagine how many how how would you pick it

04:15:33.880 exactly well i was trying to get black people interested in space travel

04:15:38.380 that's a story no one tells you about slavery it's like they were just really into cotton man

04:15:45.320 and that's one of the things i like to remind people when they bring up slavery is that every

04:15:49.600 time i i have to take some you know like i had to take my son to the cotton hospital when he broke

04:15:53.300 his arm and when i when i walk into one of those cotton skyscrapers and drive down a cotton

04:15:57.920 cotton highway reminds me of all the slaves yeah it does so what a whimsical america that would be

04:16:05.320 right and and comfy soft you know i i like introducing you know just made up facts about

04:16:14.080 slavery just to trip people up you know like my favorite one is just like it wasn't slavery it's

04:16:18.420 just they did such a bad job they weren't paid for it or like you know it's just cotton it's

04:16:23.580 like we actually didn't need cotton we're giving them something to do and you know and this is

04:16:29.120 what we get for it right when i first moved to tennessee i saw a bumper sticker on a beat-up

04:16:36.120 old little dotson or nissan pickup truck little old nissan and the rear window it had a little

04:16:43.340 confederate flag and said if i knew it was going to be like this how to pick my own damn cotton

04:16:46.940 well literally like and um i know there's a bunch of like uh you know i'm really knowledgeable

04:16:53.480 america guys who in american history would probably go on for an hour about the cotton

04:16:59.000 trade and how like by the time slavery was on its way out they weren't even really making money off

04:17:05.220 of slaves like there was just this like strange free floating human capital but it's like they

04:17:09.420 didn't they didn't even need the fucking cotton it was just a strange economic circumstance you

04:17:14.140 know but it's like but that hits at the that the core of the you know foundation myth which is like

04:17:20.680 these people were essential it's like if you rob them of that it's like actually you weren't that

04:17:24.460 essential right it's just we're people it's like a hot potato you became a hot potato for america

04:17:30.240 and still are actually all right so just for people who got the bingo the blood sally bingo

04:17:38.080 car home we did get to slavery jokes we did get to rape we did get to radiohead we did so we did

04:17:45.500 good we did good yeah actually man well um we are we are at the end of two hours though dimes

04:17:51.580 that's pretty good timing all right i hope people like this because i want people like i think people

04:17:58.220 need to look at the nrwk like look at the imagery and go to the sites that i had mentioned try it

04:18:02.780 and then go down this rabbit hole and because i think a third like you we were talking before this

04:18:07.720 and you seemed like you kind of got into it you like you started you're like okay well what the

04:18:11.960 fuck is this but by the end of it it kind of drew you in didn't it yeah no for sure i kept taking

04:18:17.900 left turns i'm like oh well that's new shit like every five minutes it was like new shit has come

04:18:23.040 to life and that one uh site awilkescrier.com like by the end of it it's overlapping text

04:18:31.100 and it's some guy talking about his automatic writing and it's about like reptilian lizard

04:18:36.700 stuff and like at hollow earth like it's just a bunch of strange things man it is crazy now now

04:18:46.020 i'm going to look into it more i thought i was just gonna like you know just just scroll through

04:18:50.460 a couple of uh through a couple of links and whatever and you know it was just me like i was

04:18:54.640 like how are we gonna get two hours out of this and we did and it's ridiculous it is actually

04:18:58.200 quite ridiculous i'm glad and this was again like i said i'm a massive fan of the show i really

04:19:04.520 really appreciate it oh man yeah thanks for coming on pleased as punch yay yes and one of

04:19:10.480 these days i have to sit down with you and judas that'll be fun too yeah yeah we're going to do

04:19:14.580 that uh sometime soon and and we also have perhaps another episode that i really want to take some

04:19:21.020 time and look oh yeah that's going to be awesome yes that might have to be like more than one

04:19:25.640 because there's so much stuff yeah like i know when we start pulling on that thread it's gonna

04:19:30.980 lead down some strange directions.

04:19:32.980 Just from what I've seen so far.

04:19:34.840 It's a very large sweater to unravel.

04:19:38.200 Alright.

04:19:39.160 That wasn't Radiohead.

04:19:41.980 That was Weezer.

04:19:43.000 Another great band.

04:19:45.280 In a lot of ways, Weezer is the

04:19:47.140 American Radiohead. I've always said that.

04:19:49.280 Yeah, actually, I can see that. That makes sense.

04:19:51.700 You know what?

04:19:52.800 Before I go, unknowingly,

04:19:54.940 Radiohead had an OK Computer, and Weezer

04:19:56.860 came out with an album called OK Human,

04:19:58.740 which I assume was

04:20:00.300 based off of that yeah actually i think it has to be yeah all right well real quick dimes tell

04:20:05.820 everybody that listens to paranormies or they can listen to you guys oh shit yeah so go to

04:20:10.960 bloodsatellite.ca that's our main website you can find full episodes of our show you can find

04:20:16.360 links to clips um i'm on twitter at legally ironic um i just got my twitter back so you can pretty

04:20:24.060 much find everything from bloodsatellite.ca so just go there and that'll lead you to our telegram

04:20:28.920 and everywhere else nice yes everybody do that now this is a threat thank you oh yeah man thanks

04:20:35.800 for coming on man and um we're gonna get out of here there will be a creepypasta at the end of

04:20:40.980 this aether thanks for uh i would say i was also gonna show for myself oh i forgot yeah dude you

04:20:45.580 have all kinds of shit no i would say you can you can just find pretty much everything i do on

04:20:48.980 at uh flesh canoe that's just flesh canoe is one word all right oh you're you're i had no idea you

04:20:56.560 were flesh. Yeah, I do. I do like music.

04:20:58.680 I do like content and all

04:21:00.640 that shit. Oh, shit. I got to talk to you about some other

04:21:02.700 stuff, man. I love your work. I

04:21:04.320 I'm so retarded. I had no idea.

04:21:07.080 Sorry. I know we're supposed to

04:21:08.680 leave, but I'm just saying this guy's stuff

04:21:10.720 is great. Oh, no, it is. No, no.

04:21:12.500 And I feel his stuff. Yeah. All right.

04:21:15.640 All right. Well, yes, we

04:21:16.760 are going to listen to a creepypasta

04:21:18.440 and we're going to get out of here and we'll see

04:21:20.640 you. See you Tuesday night and the

04:21:22.480 live Nationalist Inquirer

04:21:24.720 over on Pill, DLive, and Odyssey.

04:21:26.940 All right, later.

04:21:31.920 Hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling

04:21:34.340 Tossed salads and scrambled eggs

04:21:37.200 And maybe I seem a bit confused

04:21:41.760 Yeah, maybe, but I got you, Peg

04:21:44.140 Ha, ha, ha, ha

04:21:46.140 But I don't know what to do

04:21:48.260 With those tossed salads and scrambled eggs

Blood Satellite - August 04, 2023

Skeletons Kickflipping Through Liminal Spaces Forever [＂gooncamp But cabbage is seeking more cringe＂]

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