01:34:29.640yeah you know check out our patreon check out our gum road real secret coffee hours is the sister
01:34:36.220show where i yell about substacks and drama in the scene uh the past few have been really interesting
01:34:43.120um because i try not to complain about i really really try to not just complain about twitter on0.99
01:34:51.520the show it's so easy to just be like i saw this fucking dumb shit that someone posted and you0.95
01:34:57.460spend 45 minutes on it or some some annoying e-celeb and so i try and save that for this other show0.99
01:35:06.540i guess that's it for show news right now um and we can get in this book that uh i wanted to cover
01:35:14.180i was excited to read this and i didn't love it once i started reading it it's titled by way of
01:35:25.140deception colon the making and unmaking of a Mossad officer and so this was released in 1990
01:35:33.660and the title sounds very engaging doesn't it you're hearing from the inside what it's like
01:35:40.280to be an Israeli and be recruited in the Mossad and what's going on in the Mossad
01:35:45.540the most sensational claim in the book involves this bloody day the Beirut marine barracks bombing
01:35:52.420The book says Israeli agents kept vital information from U.S. Marines that might have saved the lives of 241 Americans killed here.
01:36:01.340Israeli government sources deny this account, but according to the book, an Israeli informant saw a Mercedes truck being fitted with secret panels for explosives.
01:36:11.460Israeli troops were told to be on the lookout for the truck, but the book says the Israelis intentionally gave the Americans only a vague warning, not mentioning the kind or size of vehicle.
01:36:22.140The book says Israeli intelligence was willing to let the terrorists succeed
01:36:26.280to protect their sources and out of contempt for U.S. intelligence.
01:36:31.140It says agents withheld information on U.S. hostages for similar reasons.
01:36:35.900In Toronto today, the author was under a court-ordered gag not to discuss the book or the case.
01:38:16.660And one thing that annoyed me, and I'll get this out of the way at the start, is that aside from the first half of the book, when it goes into his recruitment into Mossad, he doesn't really divulge any other secrets on how it functions.
01:38:32.960There's a lot of him going to school, going to Mossad school, going to spy school.
01:38:38.180But they're like, what's it actually like?
01:43:50.020Once again, going into the Israeli mindset,
01:43:52.940he describes them as conservatives,0.63
01:43:54.500But I think the conservatives within the Zionist movement would be so just chillingly insane compared to the modern Zionists, which is still they're still pretty philo-Semitic, I think.0.65
01:44:09.320He says, we were to do what was good for us and screw everybody else because they wouldn't be helping us.
01:44:16.760The further right you go in Israel, the more you hear that.
01:44:20.280In Israel, if you stay where you are politically, you're automatically shifting to the left because now the whole country seems to be rapidly heading right.0.65
01:44:28.560You know what Israelis say, quote, if they weren't burning us in World War II, they were helping, or if they weren't helping, they were ignoring it, end quote.0.77
01:44:37.980Yet I don't remember anybody in Israel going out to demonstrate when all those people were being murdered in Cambodia.0.85
01:44:43.600So why expect anyone to get involved just for us?0.78
01:44:46.660does the fact that jews have suffered give us the right to inflict pain and misery on
01:44:51.460others israel is a nation of warriors that direct contact the enemies consider the most
01:44:57.980honorable approach to take that makes the mossad the ultimate israeli status symbol
01:45:04.140and i think that's probably still the case now um he says people make the mistake of thinking
01:45:11.320the Mossad is at a disadvantage by not having stations in obvious target countries. The United
01:45:17.460States, for example, has a station in Moscow, and the Russians have stations in Washington and New
01:45:22.540York. But Israel doesn't have a station in Damascus. They don't understand that the Mossad
01:45:28.320regards the whole world outside Israel as a target, including Europe and the United States.
01:45:35.900And just to pause there, I do think that mindset is different than the CIA.0.52
01:45:41.320yes like i i do think that there is this like zionist pro like rabid pro jewishness and seeing0.98
01:45:50.520the entire world as anti-semitic like the cia is maniacal they're psychopaths they're war criminals0.64
01:45:59.400probably but yeah they aren't the cia isn't full of people who were brought up in this honor culture0.91
01:46:07.720that everyone who's not of your family0.99
02:11:34.260ron paul the 08 campaign failed and the housing crisis happened and all of that i started
02:11:42.380i would have called myself an anarcho-capitalist at that point and i started getting interested in
02:11:46.980the history of leftist anarchism which is quite a bit older started um probably in the early 1800s
02:11:57.560with pierre joseph brudon or however you say that french name and uh that happened to me about the
02:12:03.980time Occupy Wall Street popped up and I went to lots of different Occupy Wall Street sites and
02:12:11.580at the beginning Occupy Wall Street was very ecumenical for lack of a better word like there
02:12:17.040were tons of people there with like it wasn't just communist like there were people there with
02:12:20.940Gadsden flags and uh the original like American flag you know the 13 stars um that sort of thing
02:12:30.040Believe it or not, we had that up here in Canada, too. We had in large urban centers, there was Occupy protests. And I'm old enough to remember when that happened. And even in small towns, I remember a couple small towns where they had the protests and there's like one guy who camped out and God bless him.
02:12:46.860but like it was a large phenomenon and as you say it really it did seem restricted to the excesses
02:12:56.660of wall street at that point which was on the tip of everyone's tongue everyone's talking about that
02:13:01.760and then i guess this was pre-gamer gate you got to see it corrupted by leftists and i'll let you
02:13:09.140continue from there yeah um the um a little more than that in a second i was just gonna say as far
02:13:16.000as my involvement goes so i went up to about the blm stuff with berguson and when the blm stuff
02:13:22.180really started kicking off i was like yeah no this is i was uh can i use slurs on here yes0.97
02:13:28.460it's like this is gay as shit i'm out oh i wouldn't even call that a slur i thought0.98
02:13:33.360it's something well youtube will still ding you i don't know0.99
02:13:37.100he's he this guy's a sweetheart he he thinks that's a slur we we we say a couple of things
02:13:45.360not here sorry continue but um yeah like you said uh occupy got corrupted and that was very surreal
02:13:52.080to watch happen in real time i i had some knowledge of like critical theory uh like critical gender
02:14:01.980theory critical race theory so i was familiar with not say i was familiar with like like i knew like
02:14:13.300the term cisgendered before it was a anybody was like really talking about it the lefty anarchists
02:14:19.040I met at Occupy they would talk about it but they were the only people outside of like academia
02:14:23.140right so the actual corruption of Occupy Wall Street and the driving out of the straight white
02:14:30.860male and eventually the straight white female happened with what was called the stack and the
02:14:37.700stack was how a given encampment would make decisions. Everybody would stand in a circle.
02:14:43.840There would be a moderator who did not speak and they would simply keep track in their head or
02:14:48.960with a notebook of who had raised their hands when. Well, about five months, if I recall correctly,
02:14:57.420into Occupy and when like the protests were getting really big and in some cases turning
02:15:03.280into smallish riots you know maybe a thousand two thousand people um just kind of across the
02:15:10.480entire country it just got decided magic totally organically that uh instead of the stack the
02:15:17.440progressive stack should be instituted which i'm sure everyone here is pretty well familiar with
02:15:22.800you know the more the weirder you are and the uh less privileged you are the more privileged you
02:15:30.480are so if you were a white guy and there were only two people ahead of you to speak and a black guy0.91
02:15:37.120raised his hand you automatically got bumped behind him and there was no like oh but i've0.87
02:15:42.240already been bumped five times because three lesbians and a muslim showed up before me0.94
02:15:48.480with that too bad so sad so the straight white guys pretty much just stopped coming to the protests
02:15:55.920and then of course with the logic of the progressive stack there's only one person0.97
02:16:03.720allowed to speak and that's a black lesbian in a wheelchair this is old stuff of course like
02:16:07.860anyone who's old enough and i do wonder if young people need to be reintroduced to these ideas
02:16:14.040because stuff like that and maybe i'm biased i don't see it happen as much anymore that stuff
02:16:19.980was really kooky and what was interesting was that i remember when that happened when you start
02:16:24.780hearing about the progressive stack it seemed that one day some people showed up with this
02:16:30.120prepackaged system this was not negotiated amongst the people it's just these people showed up and
02:16:35.320we're doing this thing now as if it was already rehearsed and worked out and we would learn later
02:16:41.620that this is just you know marxist leninist theory repackaged in a new way but i think a lot of people
02:16:48.700they never experienced that before and i like i don't know if they even still do that like it
02:16:55.440maybe they learned maybe they're a bit more subversive now about it but um one thing that
02:17:02.420was uh and actually i'll let you continue because i don't want to just keep cutting you off there
02:17:06.140so you witnessed that happen and actually let me just say my introduction to antifa because that's
02:17:11.260really what we're talking about here was back in 2010 in toronto there was the gh summit and i was
02:17:18.100working downtown at that time in toronto and um so and because i was working downtown i had to go
02:17:25.160through police checkpoints just to get to work a couple of them each way and uh because this was a
02:17:31.100massive event and you started hearing in the news that there were these protesters and no one had
02:17:37.100really heard of them before they didn't have a name they just called them black block protesters
02:25:37.680we have our violent degenerates who seem to borrow very liberally from iconography that they just
02:25:45.740think is antisocial or upsets the status quo. And I guess the question would be, with the
02:25:52.920definition that we're going with, are there false positives? Like, do people think Antifa is bigger
02:25:57.920than it is because they're just calling anyone that's kind of antisocial and maybe left-leaning
02:26:04.020and anyone who does violence antifa i i think to some degree yes but it also depends like
02:26:13.660uh who's quote unquote in power you know like which which if the left if if the if liberals
02:26:22.680are holding the talking stick you know that there's a like biden's president um people that0.65
02:26:28.420Blake, the Democratic Socialist, the DSA, they're not going to spend as much time talking about how they're Antifa because as far as they're concerned, you know, like the FBI is very busy suppressing like J6ers, that sort of thing.
02:26:43.900So they don't, they aren't ginning themselves up in, you know, terror, they're not making themselves terrified of imaginary boogeymen that don't really exist like they do when, say, the orange man is in power.0.83
02:26:59.920And before we continue, I just wanted to return to your personal history with Antifa, and you discussed the Occupy protests. Was there any other interaction you had with them that you thought gave you some special insight, or was it just exhaustive research?
02:27:18.800um i don't really want to go into too much detail of my personal life but i'll just say that i
02:27:25.160lived with and around them i never considered myself to be one but free rent is free rent0.57
02:27:33.240no i'm saying back when i was in my late teens early 20s before we were into any of this shit0.60
02:27:41.340you know if you were in an urban area it wasn't uncommon if you had a pretty expansive list of
02:27:48.360friends you're gonna get some of these people in there i mean one of our friends was a malice he
02:27:52.780was a white guy and that was just a weird charismatic thing to do i didn't know anything
02:27:58.380i just thought oh you're like you're like a white hipster who's also a chinese communist that's wild0.99
02:28:03.740and he just wants to like get he just wants to get his dick wet you know i mean it's just one0.99
02:28:08.560of these these things these characters you would come across and then uh i don't know whatever0.99
02:28:13.960became of them but yeah you would cross paths with just these types of people and so yeah i
02:28:20.600just wanted to establish that you had some kind of uh history here and something that makes it so
02:28:26.360you don't just believe everything you hear about them and i guess we can launch into what we're
02:28:31.080going to talk about uh in more detail which is the actual structure what are they so you've got the
02:28:37.640very vague definition, the catch-all term Antifa, but there are organizations, registered companies,
02:28:46.340LLCs, nonprofits that might constitute the operational core of Antifa. Would that be a
02:28:53.460fair way to explain it? To some degree. I would say that the big core for the RevLeft is
02:29:02.060typically for brick and mortar stuff would be collective what they call collective houses which
02:29:08.900is basically like a commune except you don't grow stuff because you rented a very large dilapidated
02:29:15.200house in an urban core and crammed as many people as you could into it without the fire marshal
02:29:21.000getting called they have a couple other things the biggest brick and mortar thing they have that's
02:29:31.340not shared living quarters would be what they call info shops and those are basically bookstores but
02:29:39.420they also they tend to not have a lot of volume of product it will all be revolutionary leftist
02:29:45.900stuff and some of it they might say is not revolutionary leftist stuff but because they
02:29:51.900don't consider like books about how to love your own body if you've decided you actually have
02:29:57.740three genders and a head mate or whatever the hell. And they use them as organizing spaces too,0.97
02:30:05.880like to have like potlucks. And for a lot of the organizations we'll talk about later,
02:30:10.980they'll use them as hubs to meet, to host their meetings.
02:30:16.420I had a question. So on those two examples you just gave, and you might not have all the answers
02:30:22.540of this but this is where my mind is going uh so for those houses those shared houses um would
02:30:28.500they just be like trap houses like how my assumption is that it doesn't take them long1.00
02:30:35.120to be just made filthy and full of drug addicts and piss and shit and become flop houses would0.99
02:30:43.340that be a fair characterization well that would be a subtype of the collective house and probably the0.99
02:30:49.660the most common would be the punk house and that's definitely like where most of the people
02:30:55.480are doing drugs that or drinking too much that sort of thing and they really don't do much except
02:31:00.780again boil out into the streets when it's time to get in a fight with the riot cops about0.94
02:31:06.420how often they're supposed to shower whatever the fuck but uh for the other collective a lot0.60
02:31:12.820of the collective houses that don't degenerate immediately and might even endure for a while0.78
02:31:18.600Because there are some, like, you can find in, like, larger cities, especially cities that are known, rev left hubs like Portland, Seattle, Twin Cities, Denver, where, you know, they have collective houses that are 10, 20 years old.
02:31:37.260And they, typically the ones that like that, the reason they're that old is because they have some kind of mission statement, some kind of purpose.
02:31:45.740Either it's the people who live there are all members of one of these organizations we'll talk about later, or they are running, like you had mentioned, like the LLCs for their little whatever weird anarchist business they have, or they all work at a co-op nonprofit restaurant or a bike shop or something like that.
02:32:14.220That's actually, I should have mentioned that bike shops, these, they, a lot of them like to travel by bike just because of their own practical skills they'll pick up is how to like build Frankenstein bikes and how to repair bikes.
02:32:28.600So they'll open bike shops because they're actually pretty good at it.
02:32:32.340So if you see a weird bike shop in a city or a town and there's lots of people with odd tattoos who look like they could use a bath, there's a decent chance it's these people.
02:32:43.600Well, I guess that's the second question, because you also mentioned bookstores.
02:32:47.500And this is something I experienced when I was living in Toronto.
02:33:07.600Because like you said, the bookstores, they don't seem to sell a lot of books.
02:33:10.520They don't seem to carry a lot of books.
02:33:11.700they're mainly there for community organizing so are they just sponges for investments and just
02:33:18.740like the bike shops are they really repairing that many bikes or is it just a front for something
02:33:23.920else i would say the bike shops um they actually do manage to turn a profit because like i said
02:33:30.040it's one of the few things that they actually spend the time to get good at for the for the
02:33:36.380Info shops, and I mean, you know, most bookstores, privately owned bookstores are liberal to leftists to some degree, but the ones that are actually brand themselves as info shops, usually rent is sustained by donations from just random Rev Left people who go there.
02:33:53.820If the Anarchist Black Cross were to use a particular info shop as a place where they hold their meetings, they're going to ask for donations from the individual members of that Black Cross chapter to help cover the rent on it because they're not making any money.
02:34:12.300at most they'll if they even sell books they'll sell them at cost a lot of times it's more like a
02:34:19.520human-sized little free library like you can as long as you're not like walking in there and
02:34:25.040walking out with like 25 different books or whatever they'll just let you take stuff maybe
02:34:33.140like if they have zines they'll ask that you cover the cost of printing them so it's five
02:34:39.100bucks for kinkos or whatever duh yeah let me ask you this um and this is a good question to even
02:34:48.000have at the beginning i think i know what the answer to this will be but in your view does
02:34:53.400the left have more freedom with their money by which i mean like are they just willing to donate
02:35:00.780more we complain about that in this space all the time no one's spending money no one's buying
02:35:05.720things no one's donating in the rare instances where people is asking for something but over
02:35:10.080there it just seems that money is flowing to just these black boxes or there's no return on
02:35:15.860investment um is it just more common for leftists to spend more money and invest in this sort of
02:35:21.580thing well i think part of it is a lot of times older people who are you know like the people
02:35:30.240listen to npr just kind of your boilerplate liberal democrat person like they they'll see
02:35:38.560something like say an organization like food not bombs and you know they don't have a church that
02:35:43.440they tithe to or something like that so they're like well here let's give these goofy looking
02:35:49.360kids a hundred bucks because i'm walking by so here you go i do think that to some degree it's
02:35:55.360like liberals i i don't think that they would refer to it as such i don't think they think of
02:36:02.320it consciously as such but they tithe effectively you know because it's the same way npr gets its
02:36:08.640money so i think that's where a lot of it comes from this is food not bombs we're looking at
02:36:17.440right now this is we're going to get to this a whole selection of these examples later on but
02:49:12.320Yeah. So and then there's a the fourth one would be I usually just call them Trantifa, but it's the people who are in explicitly transsexual because there's a lot among like the white and Jewish rev left.0.67
02:49:27.940There's a lot of people who are like, oh, you know, I'm going to put a see-through dress on over the pair of blue jeans I'm wearing.0.65
02:49:34.560I'm going to say I'm queering gender. I'm abolishing gender. But they're not actually trans.0.62
02:49:39.740they're just like trying to make you upset that your five-year-old saw them like you know but0.57
02:49:48.440they're not actually like queer they just say they're queer so that they can adopt some of the0.81
02:49:53.480signifiers and tweak people's noses but the people who are actually transsexual they tend to self
02:50:00.480isolate um and there uh as i've discussed one of the other things uh i did with gordon of those0.97
02:50:10.720people i consider me highly problematic because trantifa is essentially a bunch of bottom of the
02:50:17.520barrel white dudes but they're still white dudes who figured out how to jump past everybody else1.00
02:50:23.280in the progressive stack because we all know how pushy trannies are we all know how much attention1.00
02:50:28.880they demand and for whatever reason I don't know why this happened I have a couple ideas but I'm1.00
02:50:35.600not sure trannies I think part of it is just because what the internet does to people who1.00
02:50:41.540mostly only meet online and you know trannies meet in discord groups and others on Roblox and1.00
02:50:46.880all that horrifying stuff they have somehow started to I wouldn't I don't want to say merge1.00
02:50:55.200with but they have started to pull ideas and meme plexus from the weird shooter core people
02:51:04.000or like you mentioned before order of the nine angles um and so they're like they're a bunch of
02:51:11.380white dudes who the rev left had kind of cut themselves off from access to white male brains0.72
02:51:17.000well now they have some they might have a stuffed bra or fake pair of bolt-ons0.98
02:51:25.020and are completely unhinged and you know they have purple hair and a half-shaved head but
02:51:30.760they're interested in guns uh disturbingly so i am no friend o feds but i think the most sensible0.80
02:51:41.000thing that i believe the fbi did i also believe csis up here in canada did this was they began
02:51:47.500designating those trans shooters not as left or right they have a specific term for it but
02:51:54.880i know the term nihilistic is in there it's like nihilistic depressive shooter something like that
02:52:00.180because they realize that the iconography they're utilizing you'll see a swastika on there but then
02:52:05.880you'll see an anarchist symbol on their on their guns they're drawing on their guns and then there's
02:52:09.920a meme on there then there's a pentagram on there like it's completely incoherent and time was that
02:52:16.880they would just blame the right for that any mass shooter was just grouped in as a far-right extremist
02:52:22.600and i like the recognition that this is a discrete group of people and i think they're trying to
02:52:28.640figure out how to dance or the fact that they're mostly trans from what we've seen these are people0.87
02:52:33.060shooting up schools yeah they're trannies but then but they have this other thing going on there0.94
02:52:38.200order of the nine angles i believe adam waffen kind of became that i spoke to a friend of mine0.84
02:52:44.980zoltanus many many years ago and he was affiliated with them and he told the story about how adam
02:52:51.060waffen sort of degenerated over time and they all become dominated by the exact same0.99
02:52:56.840fucking demon of like communist junkie pedophile satanist just this and also a nazi somehow all1.00
02:53:07.040at the same time all the stuff all the things also trans also gay kind of you know what i mean but1.00
02:53:13.120and these people they take delights like sheer malevolent delights in attacking what is most0.94
02:53:21.640precious in society that seems to be their only modus operandi so i'm like i i am okay with
02:53:28.320separating them from even leftism even into this yeah a distinctly 21st century phenomenon
02:53:36.060um some people yeah you know these are yeah i was just saying you know these people are like
02:53:41.040they're literally angry every morning because they wake up and they wish they were a von0.89
02:53:45.140newman probe like they're just fucking weirdos just nonsense but like i don't even know how to0.97
02:53:51.700talk these but there's no way to negotiate with them there's no that's why i use the term a level0.99
02:53:55.140and very very carefully i'm like there's no way to deconstruct these people or help them i'm like0.98
02:54:01.400they're just you throw them in a fucking hole and the thing is you can see them coming they'll let0.99
02:54:07.700you know who they are they um they tend to not intermix with the white jewish rev left just1.00
02:54:15.920because two things one everybody knows it's very easy for trannies to get their feewees hurt and0.99
02:54:21.840get upset about things and two they tend to be wildly sexually inappropriate even for those groups0.91
02:54:28.400like i i got invited to a potluck one time and i i walked in and there's this six foot five dude
02:54:37.240in a dress it was loudly complaining that nobody had wanted to tie him up and top him lately0.99
02:54:42.960i was like okay well that's highly unpleasant like they're so fucking schizophrenic like you0.99
02:54:50.040have to laugh you hear these stories so often about these people just like like fucking pelvic0.99
02:54:54.860thrusting on a train in the middle of the day.1.00
02:57:44.600And I say this because I hate to see it happen, but what I think is that they will try and admit some fault with wokeness, which is a term I don't even like to use, but whatever.0.83
02:57:58.080But they'll just distance themselves from the tranny thing, and what they'll end up doing is blaming it on white women who will accept that blame, and that really frustrates me.0.84
02:58:07.960And on top of that, just real quick, not only will they accept it, it will also, especially now as we've seen in the last few years, that right and left have become very sexed.0.96
02:58:21.880Because I hate to use the word gendered, but women are left, men are right.0.52
02:58:25.820The white women will accept it, and white men will use it as an excuse to not attempt to reconcile with them as an overall group.0.51
02:58:35.860like well you did this it's your problem yeah and that's why i tell people early on like we've been
02:58:40.620a defender of care i never used the term care and disparagingly i saw that as an anti-white slur i
02:58:46.220don't like using it similarly 100 i i can see them if you look at the numbers per capita there's
02:58:54.540actually more black trannies than there are white trannies um and that's just not spoken of that0.97
03:06:57.060They're not cheap, but $50 is a lot of money if you're in the can.
03:07:01.500But that's all the more it can cost you.
03:07:03.240Maybe, you know, you serve them another 20 bucks here and there so they can buy something that's not prison food so they don't go insane.
03:07:11.660And, you know, obviously getting, if you're stuck in a tiny cage in the human zoo, you know, letters can really do a lot to fortify you mentally.
03:07:27.480Um, when I talked to Gordon, he pointed out that the collective houses were effectively
03:07:33.240fraternities and I had never thought of it that way before, but that's, that's what they are.0.50
03:07:38.000Well, you dimes have children, you have a family who are not going to join a fraternity in your,
03:07:49.960you know, the more heading towards the middle part of your life. That's just not what people do.0.61
03:07:54.000And if you were to join an organization, like a fraternity, what it would actually be is you get very involved in your church. So I think a lot of people's mental effort that would go towards on the right that would go towards something like this ends up getting and I am not saying this is a bad thing.
03:08:14.820it's very good to be involved in in your church but i think a lot of that social uh socializing
03:08:22.900energies that people have the the mental time that they have for it it goes into stuff like church
03:08:28.340or maybe you're involved in your local school board or some parent uh what is it parent teacher
03:08:37.620the org that's parallel to the school board um but anyways uh a lot i think a lot of it just
03:08:43.380gets subsumed into that because you know or even if you know you're a distant right guy and you
03:08:47.620don't have uh or woman and you don't have a family yet or you're not married you're single you're
03:08:55.140still probably one of the family members who's more conscientious that grandma really does need
03:09:00.900somebody visiting her three times a week so she doesn't start to develop dementia you know there's
03:09:06.900an interesting comment here from randall shirk i'll just throw that up so the right doesn't do
03:09:10.740it because they refuse to accept that no one
03:20:35.740Yeah, and that's why Antifa or RevLeft are able to do what they do
03:20:40.440is because they have that foundation of confidence
03:20:43.580that they know if they get arrested, it's not the end of the world.
03:20:47.020They've got a support network both in houses they can crash at
03:20:51.400or lawyers that are just going to detect them and help them,
03:20:56.300and then we'll get to other organizations in a second.
03:20:58.760But they've got that infrastructure.0.94
03:21:00.180However, what I understand is the objection from most of the people on our side is like they express extreme trepidation with doing anything because they're not wrong that if something happens, if they're doxed and the world comes crashing down, there's fucking nothing there to catch them.
03:21:18.280And in fact, they might get half of the people they love and respect in the space saying that they deserve it.
03:38:56.160And in their pamphlets, and this is what he told me, in their pamphlets, they basically tell these shitlibs, their foot soldiers out in the field, the protesters,
03:39:07.280well, yeah, if you can get somebody away from the cops, then technically they were never arrested, so nothing illegal happened.0.99
03:39:13.120That's not how that fucking works, but these people are dumb enough to believe it.0.99
03:40:11.780With No Kings, and we're contrasting them against leftist organizations, this is obviously much more popular.
03:40:19.680Everyone's heard of it, and they've had so many protests, but at least with the leftist orgs, you can say that I think they're a bit more targeted, a bit more pointed and focused.0.97
03:40:30.700And look at a No Kings protest, and yeah, we've got fucking Tom Morello and Bruce Springsteen.
03:40:37.780you know just like singing songs but like what happens next i don't well i i think i think the0.84
03:40:49.160problem with no kings and the reason people need to pay attention to it is because there's a very
03:40:55.540real chance that it could metastasize and like the physical protests themselves could like spiral
03:41:02.860out of control because these are just a bunch of liberals, Democrats, whatever you want to call
03:41:09.880them. The rev left loves when there's large amounts of those people showing up. When I said
03:41:17.000earlier that they hate having them around and like to drive them out, they don't like having
03:41:20.320them around in leadership. But the rev left, because they are very practiced at being in
03:41:25.480riots and they do show up in like riot gear and they are like a militant cadre when they do show
03:41:32.300up like that it's very easy for them to become the tip of the spear and the rest of the riot ends
03:41:39.140up flowing around them because you know if there's tear gas firing here's some 30 year old single mom
03:41:45.600who's just mad about the orange man or whatever you see 50 people who are squared up shoulder
03:41:52.680to shoulder with riot shields and they're on your side and they're getting hit with tear gas but
03:41:57.980they're not breaking you're going to feel you know those people are obviously in charge they
03:42:03.360don't you stick with them they know what's going on and it's they're they're unified it's not like
03:42:09.720chaotic like the rest of the riot is so everything will coalesce around them and they very much the
03:42:14.960rev left very much likes being in a position where they have an angry mob that they can direct by the
03:42:20.940knows is that star wars flag look at the video here right where my cursor is is that just like0.95
03:42:28.800a fucking science i don't know what that is no it's deadpool that that might be deadpool0.73
03:42:38.000because i look at this i don't know i'm like this this just seems like an unserious thing but it also0.98
03:42:44.420as you were just saying i look at this and i say is this their version of the tea party people
03:42:50.660remember the the break from the tea party you know around the time obama was elected from the
03:42:57.340conservative movement it became this other thing and then yada yada yada we we have to deal with
03:43:03.160glenn back now you know i mean but like is the there's something here there's substance to this
03:43:08.320does it's a bit more radical it's it's something else could it indeed metastasize but then what
03:43:15.100would what would the result be i guess it would be just like the tea party was so focused on
03:43:20.700obama i guess they're focused on trump and then once they're gone they just fizzle out or
03:43:27.620mutate into something else yeah and i mean a lot of the people who are organizing it
03:43:33.680um were involved in like occupy because to occupy wall street's dead gone and buried has been for
03:43:39.62010 10 15 years now depending on where you're talking about it in america at least but all
03:43:47.620their facebook pages because you know it was 2011 so facebook was the thing all their facebook pages
03:43:52.640for like occupy seattle occupy wall street itself all that that's all still around and all those
03:43:58.400people who initially started those and who were organizing occupy wall street in their individual
03:44:04.740localities you know they're all in their 30s to 40s now and a lot of them are involved in like
03:44:09.820the no king stuff as far as i've seen and they're promoting it and they're to some degree helping
03:44:18.440uh make it more militant and so it's again it's like i was saying earlier the the rev left kind
03:44:27.420exists as a skeleton that liberals can flesh out for lack of a better way to put it even if the
03:44:35.180liberals wouldn't you know they don't agree with the revolutionary left but frankly when they start
03:44:39.700showing up to riot like i was saying about the black bloc getting the riot to coalesce around
03:44:44.180them liberals are kind of long for the ride once the any kind of protest turns chaotic and violent0.62
03:45:18.700But from what I – leftists and Marxists love this mythology that they've concocted, that they were always the originators of labor movements.
03:45:33.880A young German painter who wrote a pretty riveting book about this, where he was describing how, I'm talking about Hitler here, people, about how his time spent in, I think it was Vienna, and he was being introduced to the communist movements in the city.
03:45:54.600and he was talking about how he saw labor movements
03:48:43.380You know, Lenin's not the only one to do this, but like very explicitly during the early parts of the revolution when they were in, when St. Petersburg was the capital, he would just like flat out say in an internal party only memos, he'd be like, we do not have the numbers or the power to control this.
03:49:06.720so we need it to be as chaotic as possible
03:49:08.820so we're the only organized people here