00:04:29.620She's never presented a single shred of evidence thus far that Israel ever worked to murder Kirk, that Erica Kirk certainly didn't.
00:04:37.880In fact, her position for the longest time was if Erica Kirk comes out and tells me to stop, to stop this, to stop the conspiracy on this, I will.
00:05:18.740and I told her how God-awful sorry I was that that happened to her.
00:05:23.520Like, if you'd even imagine how that's got to feel for her, especially now that she has tens of thousands of people accusing her of murdering and conspiring to murder and then cover up what happened to her own.
00:05:38.460I mean, that's that's like mind boggling, psychological torture on a level that I've never seen.
00:05:44.520Yeah, in hindsight, it's 20-20, but given the reaction, I think it probably would have been better for her to, like, lay low for a little while.
00:05:55.280The going out with the sparklers was not a great idea.
00:05:58.640Like, all that was not a great idea because it just seemed insane.
00:06:04.940Thank you, Joe Rogan, for saying that people were going, yeah, okay.
00:06:10.420Now I'm interested because, first off, I wasn't expecting Andrew Wilson to look like that.
00:06:15.660I understand, I guess, perhaps could probably guess how you magically fell into money to be running around offering $300K for a conversation.
00:06:26.400And I also now understand, having looked into it, why Blake Neff and Andrew Colbert seem to be boosting you on X.
00:06:33.300Now, for everyone who was like me and legitimately did not know who this man was five minutes ago, Andrew Wilson apparently had a presence in the manosphere debating feminists, and that would explain why he was appearing on the Whatever podcast, which regularly features these sorts of debates.
00:06:51.340I've been on the Whatever podcast and I've done these debates, so has Charlie Kirk.
00:06:54.420But now, of course, for, I guess, either the right price or a chance at staying or being in the limelight, he's willing to sort of flip his position and kind of present himself as a feminist right there, tasked with defending Erica Kirk, taking over her late husband's company, a quarter billion dollar organization, while the kids are back home with no parents as she travels the country.
00:07:20.700Now, he's sympathetic to those positions. Now, Andrew Wilson looks to be about 50 years old.
00:07:26.320That's the best that I could do in terms of finding his age. Another point that I really
00:07:31.240was surprised by, because again, I thought this was like someone younger coming through the ranks.
00:07:34.680Worry not, though, because when he debates, he's always drinking a beer. So he wants you to know
00:07:39.100he's cool. His ex-profile pic is of him smoking a cig because that's like 50-year-old man doing
00:07:46.240is crazy that's his brand or something he's like timu danny zuko from greece but with a potty mouth
00:07:53.560to be sure the greece was a clean movie born to hand drive i did i actually really liked it
00:07:58.080he changed smoke throughout debates and he denigrates people so that people know just how
00:08:02.840like fresh to death he is i really shudder at this prospect well here's my counter offer now
00:08:08.800that i know that turning point's in the orbit right andrew wilson currently trending on x
00:08:14.940by the way, for having lied to Joe Rogan throughout this entire interview. This
00:08:19.060obviously backfired. The comments are amazing. Making fun of him and nobody buying the Erica
00:08:25.460Kirk slop, the Christian slop, trying to emote to make us feel like anything that's happened
00:08:31.720since Charlie Kirk's assassination makes sense or that we should feel bad for caring and
00:08:36.880investigating. But anyway, he's trending because he similarly in this discussion with Joe Rogan
00:08:46.800lied in relation not just to me, but tried to like pretend that I'm somehow tangential to the
00:08:54.100leftist on F America tour. I've never so much spoken to them, but then he also lied about them.
00:09:00.400He's accusing them of like laundering money and doing this on Joe Rogan's platform absent any
00:09:04.820fact check. He just lies, I guess. That's where they're at right now. Turning Point just needs
00:09:09.560people that are willing to lie. Nonetheless, like I said, I have a counteroffer. He says 300K.
00:09:14.220Let's make it 500K, right? I just have the hunch, this feeling, gut instinct that you're maybe being
00:09:21.140backed by Turning Point USA or their affiliates in this debate request. It's just you don't strike
00:09:27.320me as someone that has 300K lying around for conversation. I mean, not with that smoking
00:09:32.800habit in today's economy, right? And given the fact that Turning Point USA has raised $40 million
00:09:38.820in one night off of Charlie's blood, literally encasing his bloody microphone at a fundraiser
00:09:45.180event that his grieving widow could be captured by the camera standing next to it, I think $500K
00:09:51.260feels more appropriate. They want to invest in you. You're their guy. Tell them that's what it
00:09:56.020costs. That's 500k between old friends, right? Also, my second counter offer position point
00:10:04.220that I'd like you to meet is I'm seven months pregnant. So if you fancy a debate face to face,
00:10:08.560you're going to have to travel to me. It's common decency. No time limit in the debates. Don't worry.
00:10:14.200It will be live. We will bring up any documents or evidence that you mentioned as a part of this
00:10:18.740case. We have a team so you can send links live. We are happy to pause and allow you to search for
00:10:24.700any evidence that you reference if the teen can't find it for some reason, no tricks as long as you
00:10:29.700want, like I said, life so anybody could see if we were trying to play tricks. As a 2A point here,
00:10:36.080you're not going to be chain smoking around me, tough guy, okay? So you're just going to have to
00:10:40.180bring yourself and leave your cigs at home. And this is actually, I would say, the most important
00:10:46.460part for me. This is what has to happen. Third part here. Either Blake Neff or Andrew Colvett
00:10:52.860or Erica Kirk must publicly claim you first,
00:10:55.920meaning they must say that they are sending you in
00:10:58.840to debate on their behalf regarding the Charlie Kirk case.
00:13:10.180do they know charlie did i bring your family is older did i bring any of your family stupid did i
00:13:15.940say anything about your family being stupid charlie it's because i'm better than you charlie
00:13:20.860no it's because you're embarrassed and you know that the traditional values that you try to sell
00:13:24.820people are bull because you are not a traditional man chuck let's go through it you are not a
00:13:29.260traditional let's go through it chuck tell me what i'm doing which is immoral you probably should
00:13:33.920have bleeped out a little bit more in that clip i don't even know what some of those words mean
00:13:37.160But that's him in a nutshell. Just kind of curses and smokes cigarettes and tries to denigrate people. And again, just to give you guys the proof here, Andrew Colbeck claims they did pay him, but only to come and teach their students how to debate. Here's his tweet.
00:13:52.960He wrote, nope, he was paid for one day of the debate training for our students and campus debate team.
00:13:59.620He's not, quote unquote, being paid, but seeing how much they seem to hate that idea, maybe we should see if we can work something out.
00:14:07.640LOL. LOL. Great. I think you should work something out. I do.
00:14:11.720And Blake Neff sharing clips of him on the Joe Rogan show does a great job on Joe Rogan dissecting several of the conspiracy theories around Charlie's death
00:14:21.380and answering Rogan's questions about them, worth the watch.
00:15:17.900Now, I have been very clear from the beginning that on the basis of evidence presented, I do not believe that Charlie Kirk was killed by a lone gunman.
00:15:30.960I do not believe that any weapon was fired from low-sea rooftop.
00:15:36.160I find the most compelling theory on the basis of what I observe with my eyes, the odd trajectory of his shirt, which is the first to move.
00:15:45.340moves upward and across his chest, the immediate breaking of his necklace before Charlie is
00:15:51.740impacted and moves upward, the frankly unacceptable idea that Charlie got hit from the front with
00:15:58.4802,000 pounds of force, but miraculously didn't go backwards. He didn't fall backwards. No,
00:16:05.720he just went up and then to the side. And then Dan Flood continues him, pushes him over to the side
00:16:42.000which transported him to the hospital, followed by the FBI's unusual rush to have that SUV
00:16:48.000immediately cleaned and resold. No interest in holding that in evidence, which is typical.
00:16:54.600Also, the mysteriously purged 911 call where someone is allegedly heard saying,
00:17:02.400get that off of him. I routinely and intentionally disobey that Orwellian instruction,
00:17:10.400you know, as George Orwell authored in his dystopian novel, which is becoming our reality,
00:17:16.0601984, quote, the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their
00:17:22.900final, most essential command. Their final, most essential command is to tell the public,
00:17:29.440reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. Yeah, I'm good. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to
00:17:37.160disobey the party command. No matter how many influencers try to tell us that our eyes and
00:17:43.300our ears are being overwhelmed, I still feel pretty underwhelmed. Okay. As an example of
00:17:50.480this instruction routinely playing out, we have covered Benny Johnson, one of the courtroom
00:17:54.460influencers who Erica personally invited to attend a preliminary hearing. He said this on his show
00:18:00.480yesterday. Like, say what you will about Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson. Like, we have Tyler
00:18:07.160Robinson's text messages. We have interviews with Tyler Robinson's family members. I know
00:18:14.060there's a lot of them. I know blood runs very hot on that issue. It does for me, too. But we have
00:18:21.280so much evidence. It's demonstrable and empirical. You can see it. It's been confirmed. It's been
00:18:28.780confirmed through the devices, it's been published, and they have so much more.
00:18:33.340You've seen maybe like 1% or 2% of the evidence that's actually physically available.
00:18:41.560We did not see this. We've not seen anything from his parents. We have not seen, we keep being told
00:18:47.140that we see it. We keep being told that it's there. It wasn't even so much as mentioned in
00:18:51.460the preliminary hearing. What are we talking about? Empirical, empirical evidence. It's
00:18:56.660demonstrable. It's overwhelming. Well, I'll tell you what is actually empirical and is interesting.
00:19:04.300And interestingly enough, it's something that the influencers left out about the 4K footage that
00:19:10.760they were shown. I've made it clear that I believe the person who is walking up the stairs
00:19:17.760in the maroon shirt is not Tyler Robinson. The person who was captured on TMZ's cameras in the
00:19:24.440Maroon shirt is not Tyler Robinson. I still believe what I reported back in October of last
00:19:30.720year, which is that Tyler Robinson never stepped foot onto UVU campus. That claim has not been
00:19:38.660debunked. Now, although, as I said back then, I learned that he was around campus on that day.
00:19:45.760I don't know if that means he was driving people around. It's certainly plausible,
00:19:49.100but I don't think he was either person who walked up the staircase on that day. And I
00:19:54.300believe those are two different people that we're seeing. The maroon, and then later in the day,
00:19:58.480in the black, I think those are two different individuals. And to that point, by the way,
00:20:03.440of interest is that the UVU students have confirmed to me that there are no cameras
00:20:07.900outside of the parking garage. There's absolutely no reason for him to walk up through the parking
00:20:14.060garage. If you look at the layout, it's almost as if the people wanted to be captured by the
00:20:19.240cameras. Everybody knows if you go into a parking garage, there's going to be cameras.
00:20:22.260If he had just walked outside of the garage and went around, there would have been no way for the cameras to capture him. I'm going to show you that on the map here, okay? The map of the actual route that he took there is he just decided to go through this parking garage.
00:20:39.280decided to go through the parking garage here's the route he could have taken with the same effect
00:20:44.980just stayed on the street never would have been captured again it makes entirely no sense outside
00:20:50.320of wanting the cameras to see him anyway what i can say emphatically is that if there is
00:20:57.020overwhelming evidence that tyler robinson did this crime if they're sticking to that
00:21:01.600if it's just so overwhelming that he did this crime then we can say that there is objectively
00:21:06.580more overwhelming evidence that Lance Twiggs did this crime, okay? Because Lance Twiggs
00:21:14.100has his DNA on the towel. Lance Twiggs has his DNA on the rifle. And to be clear, Lance Twiggs'
00:21:22.080DNA was not as degraded as Tyler Robinson's DNA was on Tyler's rifle. It's Tyler's rifle,
00:21:30.200but Lance's DNA is more prominent, how does that happen?
00:23:15.740The person wrote, Dear Candace, quote,
00:23:17.980I wanted to share some context about a character named Luna from the animated series Hell of a Boss.
00:23:23.660Asluna is a very popular character among members of the furry fandom.
00:23:27.940She is an anthropomorphic hellhound who normally has a wolf-like appearance,
00:23:33.440but she is also able to disguise herself in a human form and switch back to her hellhound form.
00:23:39.700A significant part of her character revolves around her difficulty connecting with other people.
00:23:45.480She is often portrayed as guarded, socially awkward, and emotionally withdrawn.
00:23:49.000on. She has trouble making friends, tends to isolate herself, and often hides her insecurity
00:23:54.520behind sarcasm, anger, or an unfriendly attitude. Over the course of the series, some of her
00:24:00.100storyline explores her relationships with others, her fear of rejection, and her difficulty expressing
00:24:04.680affection or allowing herself to become emotionally close to people. Because of both her wolf-like
00:24:10.100design and her personality, Luna has become especially recognizable and popular within the
00:24:14.500furry fandom, and online animation communities. She appears frequently in fan art, cosplay,
00:24:20.340memes, and other fan-created content. So this was interesting to me because I, a long time ago,
00:24:26.360very long time ago, back in October, told you that, among other things that I learned about
00:24:34.040the Robinson family, of course, this whole lie that Matt Robinson believed his son was guilty,
00:24:38.860Matt Robinson, when he went back to the apartment that Tyler Robinson shared with Lance, discovered that a bed that was not in his son's room, a dog bed, was put into his son's room.
00:24:56.200His suspicion was that the feds had staged that room.
00:25:00.680Well, if you're telling me that it's Lance that has a fursona that happens to be a hellhound,
00:25:06.260it would make more sense that this would be Lance's bed, Lance's big dog bed, that Lance
00:25:13.100was embodying this fursona. And when we looked further into Luna and this hellhound demon dog,
00:25:19.940that's literally what it is, a demon dog, we learned that the demon dog wears a pentagram
00:25:24.200as a necklace. And the series premise in and of itself is sort of amazing. This is what it says
00:25:29.640on Wikipedia. Okay. The series follows the employees of IMP, immediate murder professionals,
00:25:39.260and an assassination company in hell that offers hitman services in the realm of a living
00:25:45.540on their many different jobs. That's just incredible. That is just incredible. Especially
00:25:54.080when you weigh that against the fact that you have people like the medical examiner's wife
00:25:59.520who is encouraging people online and on Discord
00:31:03.640to get started. That's left-hand dominance, perhaps ambidextrous. I find that to be very
00:31:13.800interesting, that little phone pocket thing, which the feds wanted to blur so the public
00:31:18.820couldn't see that. It's his phone. He's on his phone, and he puts it into his left pocket.
00:31:24.580And isn't it just interesting that the feds instantly felt that when they met with Lance,
00:31:27.860No, he's not an accomplice. There's no way. It didn't even cross their minds. In fact, what they decided to do after they questioned Lance for a few hours is they offered him a ride back home. That's a fact. He was then dropped off by police at his parents' residence.
00:31:48.440The feds then moved him and his father into a safe house.
00:31:53.360The feds paid for them to live somewhere unknown to the general public.
00:31:57.260All of that just strikes me as remarkably odd.
00:32:02.660That's just, this person would have access to everything that was Tyler Robinson's.
00:32:07.120I'd love to know exactly how his hair was styled when all of this went down.
00:32:12.600Now, just some things that you should know that I'm happy to share with you.
00:32:16.860as we start moving in on this and considering this plausibility, is that Lance moved in to
00:32:22.680that apartment, which is owned by his family, in July of 2022. He initially found two roommates
00:32:30.800that were brothers. Their names were Caleb and Bradley. One of them was in the military. That's
00:32:36.640Bradley. Caleb left a year later, and in 2023, Tyler Robinson took Caleb's place. So in August
00:32:46.200of 2023, Tyler Robinson begins living there. So it was just Bradley, the military guy, Lance,
00:32:53.000and Tyler Robinson living as roommates until November of 2024. So at the end of 2024,
00:33:03.600Bradley, the military guy, moved out, citing a military obligation. This left just Tyler and
00:33:09.840Lance living in that apartment alone beginning at the beginning of 2025. Those are just some
00:33:16.500more facts that I would allow to, I would like to just introduce into the public domain
00:33:21.140that could be of interest. So yeah, that is my position. These are the things that I am looking
00:33:28.080into. I have always suspected, and even more so after the preliminary hearing, that Lance could
00:33:34.480have been a federal asset who got mixed up in something in his online communities.
00:33:41.980Allegedly, that's my perspective. I think while it's still legal, we'll be right back after a break.
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00:38:29.560Like, I don't believe anything he's saying there.
00:38:32.160I cook and this is, I am amazed how much
00:38:35.880like chicken is costing at the grocery store.
00:38:38.740I'm making rice. I'm not like, you know, getting out there and buying something that's super duper expensive. Yes, I do. I will say on the beef, I always support at the farmer's market, which is I am. I'm obviously paying more because I want to support farmers. But I've noticed that things have gotten incrementally more expensive and I should be able to support farmers. I should be able to do that, go to the farmer's market and buy and buy that meat without feeling shamed because they claim the issue is that you can't cook. We can cook.
00:39:06.580Are you guys you guys cannot be this out of touch with how people are living?
00:39:11.280So Matt responds to Joel and he says, one of the problems with this claim is that virtually no Republican was making, quote, the affordability crisis is fake arguments during the Biden years.
00:39:24.700It's extremely transparent to everyone that the unwillingness to acknowledge these obvious economic challenges is at least partially politically motivated.
00:39:32.720Yes, they want war, war, war, blood, blood, blood.
00:39:35.320He continues, the second problem is that no matter how thrifty your family might be and no matter how cheap your homemade burritos, the significant rise in grocery prices over the past six years and the fact that the rise is continuing, not stopping and certainly not reversing is just a mathematical reality.
00:39:49.860It can't be denied. It is a fact. Grocery prices have gone up 30 percent or more this decade.
00:39:54.840I'm happy for you if your family is not significantly impacted by this problem, but it is real and it is a problem.
00:39:59.780And conservatives better come up with an answer that isn't just, quote, learn how to make cheap burritos or we are going to get absolutely crushed.
00:40:08.120Yeah, I don't know how people outside of, again, just their general Zionist bloodthirst and needing to make it seem like it's not because they're constantly taking money and they're not parasites on our economy, how you could argue that?
00:40:24.200Obviously, groceries have gotten incredibly expensive and they are continuing to get expensive.
00:40:28.560So whatever Trump promised has not been delivered. That's speaking plainly. What's really funny about this is that Matt obviously alludes to the fact that it just shows that you're a complete fraud because you weren't making these arguments or you were at least acknowledging the affordability crisis when Biden and Kamala were in office.
00:40:46.700Sure enough, Joel himself, Joel Berry, complained about the grocery store prices when Kamala Harris was in office in 2024.
00:40:54.100You should never, ever lose sight of how fraudulent Zionists are.
00:40:58.920They just they just want war. OK, here is what he actually tweeted in 2024.
00:41:03.920Kamala Harris tweets. The campaign is about two different visions for our nation.
00:41:08.540Ours is focused on the future. Donald Trump is focused on the past.
00:41:11.820We are not going back. Joel Berry replied and said, I'd like to go back to when there were no wars.
00:48:09.460I don't know if we're just growing up and the propaganda just isn't slapping the same.
00:48:13.700Like if we saw this in like 2001, we'd be like, oh my gosh, yes, no, that's crazy.
00:48:17.680Like, do they know we know about the CIA and Israel funding Al-Qaeda, funding al-Nusrat, the Mossad motto, you know, that they're going to conquer the world through deception? Do they know that we know that Israel's behind all of this radical? I don't know. It's a little too on the nose. It's a little too on the nose. They are going to conquer you through the wombs of their women. Like, who's writing this stuff? It's justāI'll leave it as it is.
00:48:47.680It's a promo for the trailer. A reminder, just as they are chomping at the bit for war with Iran and telling you, you know what you should do? You should learn to cook a burrito and go also see this film and understand that the reason why you have to make those sacrifices is because if you don't, you're going to have to, you can't run, you can't hide, you're going to have to fight radical Islam.
00:49:14.940so your options are you just you gotta you gotta eat burritos um at home learn to cook
00:49:23.320and recognize that the threat here is islam is not zionism made very clear by that trailer
00:49:28.980anyway i just wanted to also uh show you guys this clip which i think is fantastic rabbi shmuley
00:49:35.520uh who is just one of the grossest representatives of what the zionist lobby is constantly harassing
00:49:43.200people threatening lawsuits. For some reason, he's in Iceland. And that's not subtle, by the way,
00:49:47.760at all. He's like, I wouldn't suspect he's up there vacationing. It's just like a parasite
00:49:51.940in Iceland. Look out for that. If anything happens in Iceland, like just know Rabbi Shmuley was here.
00:49:59.600But he came across this couple that was on the streets and they basically said,
00:50:06.240F Israel. And he tried to do his usual victim bit. And he said, they told him to his face,
00:50:11.640Like the guy here just had big Viking energy and told him to get out of his country.
00:55:28.080And also, like I said, colluding with terrible human beings and trying to convince us this is the same company, the same organization that Charlie was at the helm of.
00:55:47.420Most common place Satan shows up, according to scripture, is in false religion.
00:55:50.900Remember, he disguises himself as an angel of light.
00:55:53.160Again, I would file that under, are we just more aware of the propaganda or has it gotten more extreme? Because I look at these things and it's like, guys, no one's buying this. Why are you continuing to do it? People can see this faith grift and yet they continue.
00:56:58.780Your girl, Corinne, writes, I know you're busy, but I'd love to know your thoughts on the Lindsay Clancy case in Massachusetts.
00:57:03.480I made my thoughts clear on this. The moment that she was arrested, the moment that it made the news, Lindsay Clancy is obviously not guilty. There are a fleet of doctors who should be imprisoned for what they put her on. I regularly speak out against Big Pharma. They get away with murder all the time. And in this case, they are getting away with the murder of really her three children, but also completely destroyed her life.
00:57:29.220when Lindsay Clancy, in my opinion, is not guilty.
00:57:31.680She was put into an intentional psychosis
00:57:34.880when she probably just needed to give her kids away