Candace Owens - August 06, 2026


LEAKED: ā€œProtecting Erika Kirkā€ Group Chat, Perez Hilton’s Public Breakdown. | Ep 372


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00:00:30.000 All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. Sorry, I'm a little tardy. I had a sick two-year-old
00:00:34.560 in my bed last night, and he's cute, but he sleeps like a psycho, snores like an old man.
00:00:39.680 Anyway, I know a lot of people today are discussing, obviously, celebrity blogger
00:00:43.860 Perez Hilton this morning. Don't worry, we are not going to show you the video. I actually want
00:00:49.600 to be honest with you, I haven't even watched the video because my social media guy alerted
00:00:53.880 me to it last night. He said, don't watch it, and I said, okay. Then my husband said,
00:00:58.360 Do not watch it after he saw it.
00:01:00.200 I can't even watch scary movies.
00:01:01.860 I've shared that with you.
00:01:02.680 I'm very, like, spiritually sensitive to that stuff.
00:01:05.320 I can hardly make it through an Erica Kirk interview.
00:01:08.120 Speaking of which, in hilarious news,
00:01:10.380 Piers Morgan interviewed one of her spiritual advisors,
00:01:13.860 Victor Marks, the man that we interviewed.
00:01:17.280 And Piers Morgan is very confused.
00:01:18.980 This man who summons angels and demons into the room.
00:01:23.540 Piers has sort of landed upon the same conclusion
00:01:25.980 that victor is bizarre. Keep going, Piers. You might appreciate that all of these godly,
00:01:33.400 quote-unquote godly people who Erica surrounded her husband with are of a particular variety
00:01:38.560 that feels anything but holy or biblical, despite the words that come out of their mouth,
00:01:43.880 despite all of the pretenses. Anyway, we have a lot to cover today, so let's get into it.
00:01:49.060 Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:55.980 OK, before we get into this Perez Hilton story, quick update for you guys on Officer Bagley, which may or may not be interesting, given the recurring themes that we've been talking about in the Charlie Kirk assassination story.
00:02:18.980 We learned that Officer Bagley, while he was employed by the Utah County Sheriff's Office,
00:02:24.780 so that was actually his last place of employment before he began working for UVU.
00:02:29.080 He worked for Utah County Sheriff's Office.
00:02:31.960 But specifically, he worked in the Sex Crimes Detective Unit.
00:02:37.140 So I'm pointing that out because I have been continually underlining that theme across the board.
00:02:42.540 Various decoys, like George Zinn arrested for child pornography.
00:02:46.920 Seems like he was put up for this job of saying, I did it, I did it.
00:02:51.060 The guy who jumped up and started that chant, USA, USA.
00:02:55.400 He goes by David Sprague, but he actually changed his name.
00:02:59.100 It used to be James Rawlinson.
00:03:01.060 He confessed to me that his father got mixed up in crimes against children and some sex
00:03:07.020 abuse crimes against children.
00:03:08.800 I also had shared with you in the past, maybe you don't remember, that I strongly suspect
00:03:13.440 that Mike Mitchell, who is very central to the story,
00:03:16.740 the former undercover cop
00:03:18.640 who was Tyler Robinson's Boy Scouts leader,
00:03:21.680 who told him, oh, you know,
00:03:23.920 they're gonna arrest you either way
00:03:26.300 and convinced him to sort of turn himself in
00:03:28.900 or, you know, have the SWAT bang down your door.
00:03:32.740 Well, as a reminder,
00:03:34.500 we were able to find an undercover detective
00:03:36.720 who was involved in Utah with Cyber Sex Crime Unit
00:03:40.600 by that same name, Michael Mitchell.
00:03:42.560 But we haven't been able to confirm with absolute certainty that it is the same Mike Mitchell.
00:03:49.600 But I think it is because we don't really know what he did for the police.
00:03:53.960 And usually that means you're undercover.
00:03:56.240 And if you're doing Internet crimes, yeah, I'll tell you one thing.
00:04:00.380 Why this really matters and we've had that spreadsheet for you is because obviously when you are dealing with sex crimes over the Internet, cyber sex crimes,
00:04:09.660 you will find a hub of feds and feds do turn would-be criminals into assets. You catch them
00:04:17.940 touching the wrong link and here are your choices. You can either do this for us or you can spend the
00:04:24.560 rest of your life with the whole world knowing you're a pedophile. These circumstances have
00:04:28.640 happened in the past many times over and so again I'm entering that tidbit because it might be
00:04:34.080 relevant down the line. Now, I had already been wondering aloud about whether some people were
00:04:39.860 blackmailed into certain activity, and I'm going to continue to wonder aloud about that,
00:04:44.680 give myself permission to think while it's still legal. I also really wanted to get together a
00:04:49.800 little list. I will keep building on this. You know I love a list for, I mean, just us to remind
00:04:55.940 ourselves of everything that we were initially told about this case, the influencers that came
00:05:00.960 out and told us they were overwhelmed with evidence. That has thus far been proven false
00:05:05.940 or entirely unverifiable. We were told, wait until the preliminary hearing. I was told that actually
00:05:11.760 by Erica herself saying, this is her lawyer. This is when we gather all the evidence. Then at the
00:05:16.900 preliminary hearing, we have a chance to present that evidence and the public will know much more.
00:05:22.800 Well, it's just important to pause and reflect and to recognize that from beginning up until
00:05:28.200 this point, we have just been lied to. They have proven actually nothing. They continually call us
00:05:34.160 the conspiracy theorists. They are the conspiracy theorists, actually. We are fully in the throes
00:05:38.600 of trust the science of Tyler Robinson. Just trust that it's him, but we don't have to supply
00:05:44.300 any proof. So here's just a little brief list of things that I'm putting together. And like I said,
00:05:49.040 we will continue to grow this. But we were told that Tyler's father turned him in. I have disputed
00:05:54.340 this from the very beginning. I was the first person to say that is not true. I had a source
00:05:57.840 and it was solid, that actually he was pressured into coming in and told that he had no other
00:06:02.840 option or they were going to bang down his door. When we were told that, don't forget the Bill
00:06:06.800 Ackman narrative in the background. Bill Ackman, this was such a prevalent narrative in the
00:06:12.520 mainstream that Bill Ackman tweeted that he was going to award this brave father, oh, could you
00:06:18.140 imagine if you had to turn in your own son $1 million, which added to this myth and this lore
00:06:24.700 of Tyler Robinson's father turning him in.
00:06:27.740 And that has been determined to be a lie.
00:06:29.720 I'm not saying Bill Ackman lied.
00:06:30.820 He could have been responding to the lie.
00:06:32.420 But what I'm saying is,
00:06:33.660 I believe Andrew Colbert admitted
00:06:35.620 that Bill Ackman did not give him $1 million.
00:06:38.500 And Matt Robinson, his father, did not turn him in.
00:06:42.000 They just kind of are moving on from that point.
00:06:44.040 It didn't happen.
00:06:45.640 We were also told that there is a video
00:06:47.820 of Tyler Robinson taking the shot in 4K
00:06:50.640 by the influencers.
00:06:52.820 That is a lie.
00:06:53.340 I proved to you that was a lie. They're now moving the goalposts and pretending that they never said it. There is no video of any person taking the shot, actually. It doesn't exist. Major lie. Tyler Robinson, another thing that we were told, and or his lover at various times are transgendered. That's a lie. Tyler Robinson is not transgendered.
00:07:16.740 I told you that very early on.
00:07:18.120 His lover, Lance, is not transgendered.
00:07:20.540 And the furry culture, it's very difficult to explain,
00:07:24.880 but that is supposed to exist as an avatar of some game player
00:07:29.680 or someone in game world that reminds you of yourself.
00:07:33.600 And I am told by people in the game world
00:07:35.820 that Luna is a very popular character
00:07:38.500 because they're sort of like antisocial.
00:07:41.740 And I don't know, they were explaining to me who Luna is,
00:07:44.140 the very popular character in that world.
00:07:46.620 And who's going to account for that lie?
00:07:49.000 Who's going to come forward and admit that they just sort of made that up?
00:07:51.680 I don't know.
00:07:52.740 We were similarly told in that same vein, the reason why that lie was so crucial was
00:07:57.480 that this was a politically motivated crime.
00:08:00.120 Tyler Robinson, the whole text messages reflect some hate just can't be negotiated.
00:08:05.260 I got to do this.
00:08:06.840 Charlie, I had to take my shot.
00:08:07.900 Charlie Kirk is here.
00:08:09.280 That's crucial.
00:08:11.000 That's the motive.
00:08:12.540 We were told that that was because of Charlie Kirk's stance on LGBTQ issues, least of the things that he is known for.
00:08:19.380 Truly, least of the things that Charlie Kirk is known for.
00:08:21.860 If this was like, you know, Matt Walsh during What is a Woman documentary, that might make sense.
00:08:27.060 But Charlie Kirk?
00:08:28.680 Like, no, that's not what people, when you think of Charlie Kirk, you don't think of transgendered issues.
00:08:33.520 We know where he stands on it, but that's not his claim to fame.
00:08:37.940 Then suddenly the boyfriend, Lance, testifies that he's never spoken to him about LGBTQ issues.
00:08:44.600 So I guess for the first time he spoke to him about it after he killed Charlie Kirk via text message.
00:08:50.760 Again, it's a very serious lie that has now been debunked because it means the motive has evaporated.
00:08:57.180 The political motive has evaporated.
00:08:58.700 He said they didn't even speak about politics.
00:09:00.640 He had never mentioned the name Charlie Kirk to him.
00:09:04.240 Ever.
00:09:06.320 Where's their motive?
00:09:07.200 now. We were told that there is footage of Tyler Robinson assembling the rifle on the roof. That is
00:09:13.740 a lie. There is no footage of Tyler Robinson assembling the rifle on the roof. Blake Neff
00:09:18.260 tweeted this the other day. He is lying through his teeth. He is lying through that bald head,
00:09:23.840 okay? It doesn't exist. Then he kind of tried to edit and say, well, we can deduce. We can deduce?
00:09:29.260 We can deduce that somebody assembled a rifle on the roof? No, we can't deduce that. Is there
00:09:33.720 footage yes or no. The answer is no. It was a lie. We were told that there was clear footage of Tyler
00:09:40.140 Robinson's car on campus. That is thus far unproven. It would remain a mystery as to if there
00:09:46.100 was that footage, why they wouldn't have presented at the preliminary hearing. What we have been
00:09:51.120 presented with is blurry footage of a car that resembles Tyler Robinson's car. He's not the only
00:09:57.080 person in Utah or in the United States or in the world that drives that particular vehicle in that
00:10:03.180 car in that color. So that is thus far unproven. But we'll be open to maybe this is, they just
00:10:09.600 didn't want to present it at the preliminary hearing. We were told Tyler Robinson was suicidal.
00:10:14.640 That is a lie. I told you that was a lie from the very beginning. He was not suicidal. In fact,
00:10:19.880 he was so not suicidal that he agreed to turn himself in, or rather to walk in peaceably.
00:10:26.520 You have no other choice. That's what they told him. He agreed to go in peaceably rather than
00:10:30.840 subject himself to the possibility of an accidental death by SWAT team banging down
00:10:36.740 his door. They just moved on from that. We were told that Tyler Robinson's gun was officially
00:10:43.840 tied to the bullet fragment that was recovered in Charlie's autopsy. That's a lie. The ATF was
00:10:50.180 very clear. That's why the influencer started pretending. They were kind of trying to shroud
00:10:55.920 the ATF testimony. That's my belief of why they went so hard on the last day, because that ATF
00:11:02.040 testimony was so crucial and very carefully explained that they, no, they gave a range,
00:11:08.500 she gave a range of what these metal fragments of which really only one of them could be tested,
00:11:15.900 a range of what sort of weapons it could fit into. And in fact, it didn't cover a .30-06.
00:11:21.940 It didn't cover 30.6, if you pay attention to that testimony.
00:11:26.000 She almost debunked the idea entirely, in my view, that this was tied to Tyler Robinson's
00:11:32.040 gun whatsoever.
00:11:33.560 We were told Tyler Robinson's gun had had DNA all over it.
00:11:38.040 And I'm going to call that a lie by severe omission, because every time they said this
00:11:42.300 in the public, they refused to say, but five other sets of prints minimally were also found
00:11:49.460 on the gun, and they refuse to say that Tyler's are the most degraded. Tyler's prints are the
00:11:56.240 most degraded of all the prints that were found on this gun. That is a severe lie by omission
00:12:02.020 to continually say they found his prints on a gun and not admit that five other sets were found,
00:12:08.520 of which one were his own by his father and the other by Lance. Lance Twiggs is not. Why are
00:12:14.640 Lance's fingerprints on this family heirloom. And I am going to count this next one as a lie
00:12:23.160 by severe omission that Terrell Farnsworth immediately turned over the footage to police.
00:12:27.460 I'm going to call that a lie by severe omission because Terrell Farnsworth took out, we watched
00:12:32.240 him take out an SD card. And actually what the police were given was not an SD card. They were
00:12:40.000 given a hard drive, right? A USB file. So why? When was that transferred? That feels relevant
00:12:47.900 to me. You can give an SD card to the feds. You don't need to be like, well, let me get this on
00:12:53.800 to a USB or a hard drive. No. This tells me that it is plausible that that footage was edited,
00:13:00.820 zoomed in perhaps, as Nisi pointed to, and then given to the feds for some reason,
00:13:05.780 because a zoomed-in image would not show you
00:13:08.280 what was happening on the ground beneath.
00:13:10.320 I'm not sure.
00:13:12.020 These are a lot of very severe lies
00:13:14.600 that they're now just kind of moving on from.
00:13:19.380 What exactly, I guess this is my question,
00:13:22.300 what exactly in the narrative thus far,
00:13:24.620 which has been presented to us, to the public,
00:13:26.860 what are we supposed to find convincing?
00:13:29.080 Because I want you to remember that
00:13:30.280 in order to secure a murder conviction,
00:13:33.460 you have to move a jury
00:13:35.100 beyond a reasonable doubt,
00:13:38.420 beyond a reasonable doubt to secure a murder conviction.
00:13:45.100 So to our detractors, which there are many,
00:13:47.600 I ask sincerely, name one piece of evidence
00:13:50.060 that has been entered into the public domain
00:13:52.000 that you feel demonstrates that Tyler Robinson
00:13:55.120 did this beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:13:56.920 Because as we were going through this as a team,
00:13:59.120 we were like, all they're left with right now
00:14:02.180 is a text message confession.
00:14:05.100 right? That's really kind of it. These were taken, a text message confession, which the police
00:14:11.980 took from Lance's phone. Mind you, Lance should be a suspect in this. His prints are everywhere.
00:14:18.960 He had access to all of Tyler's belongings. He says his alibi is, I was sleeping, okay? He's
00:14:24.360 being protected by the feds. Like I said, he seems like an asset. Maybe they found him online doing
00:14:28.060 some weird stuff. And those messages were presented without any timestamps. We don't know why that is.
00:14:35.100 And also it happens to be that when Lance's phone was photographed by the police, it was conveniently broken, take a look here, in the top left corner, right where we would be able to discern what time it was when the police took that.
00:14:49.920 Their story is, oh, he came in on the night of the 10th or maybe it's the 11th and we spoke to him.
00:14:55.940 Well, it would be great if we could look at that time, but he happened to break his phone, like stab it right in the corner where the time is.
00:15:02.480 So we don't get to guess or know
00:15:03.960 when the feds actually took photos of those messages.
00:15:09.200 We also saw testimony in court
00:15:11.460 that the police moved to use an Israeli tech firm
00:15:16.100 to extract the messages.
00:15:18.380 Celebrite, it's called.
00:15:19.260 An Israeli forensic tech firm to extract those messages.
00:15:25.280 Now, I don't know if it matters to them,
00:15:29.460 but we all kind of think Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
00:15:32.480 just based on the actions and the mood of the Israeli government leaders,
00:15:37.720 Bibi Netanyahu, and their plethora of Zionist supporters throughout the United States.
00:15:43.320 They're obsessed with lying about the Charlie Kirk case.
00:15:45.860 They just have to lie about the Charlie Kirk case.
00:15:48.180 They have to try to debunk everything immediately.
00:15:50.500 It's giving us the vibe that they could be guilty.
00:15:55.020 So yeah, we'd rather not trust an Israeli tech firm to extract messages
00:15:58.480 that do not sound at all as though they were written by a native English speaker. And I'll
00:16:03.840 tell you what I mean by that. It sounds to me like someone using Google Translate, right?
00:16:08.980 There are little idiosyncrasies in language that I'll give you when I learned Spanish,
00:16:13.320 okay? I remember like, okay, I know how to say to drink, beber, beber, B-E-B-E-R, beber.
00:16:20.680 But actually, they don't use beber ever. No, everywhere you go, they use tomar,
00:16:25.400 which is like to take. They say toma, like you take. So if you say beber, like if I put that
00:16:33.100 into Google Translate, I want to drink, it's going to give me beber. And if I go and I then
00:16:41.440 present those as text messages, Spanish people are going to clock you in four seconds and say,
00:16:45.700 this is not a native Spanish speaker at all. Beber, we don't say beber, but it means to drink.
00:16:51.080 yeah we don't we don't we don't say that and tyler robinson's text messages we actual american
00:16:58.760 english speakers we don't say pooch and bad sniffer in casual language i actually looked
00:17:03.720 that up actually like sniffers is ukrainian there's like a show called the sniffer ukrainian
00:17:10.480 shows totally crazy we don't use that stuff in casual language this is somebody who does not know
00:17:16.800 how we speak. And it is, of course, entirely plausible that someone gained access to Tyler
00:17:22.920 Robinson's iCloud, maybe someone like his boyfriend gave access to his iCloud, and someone
00:17:28.520 sent text messages from a different location. All of that remains to be seen because don't forget
00:17:33.120 Tyler's legal team, despite reasonable protestations, were not granted their discovery
00:17:38.320 requests leading up to the preliminary hearing, okay? They testified that they had not even
00:17:43.620 been given access to their client's phone when they were requesting an extension. They were
00:17:50.220 going, well, how are we doing this hearing? We don't have anything. We can't even vet anything
00:17:54.080 that you're putting on the stand. You're just going to allow hearsay? Yeah, we're going to
00:17:56.820 allow hearsay. That's what happened. Those text messages have not been vetted yet.
00:18:02.940 Now, in addition to this, the public is noticing that the victim on this case, Erica Kirk, is
00:18:07.000 inviting influencers into the courtroom. That doesn't make us think she's telling the truth,
00:18:11.020 especially because the influencers are lying they have lied repeatedly to the masses they
00:18:17.480 get caught and they just keep lying as if their lives and livelihood depend on it on top of that
00:18:22.900 her her organization which she took over um in her husband's dead turning point usa is contracting
00:18:30.620 the services of and platforming people who are meant to lie about this investigation full-time
00:18:37.220 It's their full-time job to attack Candace.
00:18:40.940 I don't know if you happen to catch this, but over on X right now, it's trending.
00:18:44.700 A group of 92 influencers have been exposed, targeting me, exposed, coordinating in a group chat.
00:18:53.500 The group was brought together by an agent of Israel, no doubt, in the past, before Charlie was assassinated,
00:19:00.620 that this person hosted a Spaces on X
00:19:03.920 and went on record admitting that they gather intel,
00:19:07.120 they collaborate with the Green Berets there,
00:19:09.420 they collaborated with a Daily Wire employee,
00:19:11.600 Cassie Akiva, the Gaza Humanitarian Fund,
00:19:14.860 then run by Johnny Moore,
00:19:16.380 to create files on people
00:19:18.120 for the purpose of doing Israel's PR bidding.
00:19:20.920 At that time, it was about what's happening in Gaza.
00:19:23.500 And they were going after someone
00:19:26.360 who Tucker Carlson had on his show.
00:19:28.280 So, of course, the common sense question is, why is someone who focuses on PR for Israel focused on gathering 91 other people to attack me full time over the Charlie Kirk case?
00:19:40.320 OK, I'll show you this. The group chat got exposed because a member of the group went rogue and was like, I'm done with this.
00:19:46.120 This is this is no longer healthy for me. Here is what she said over two tweets.
00:19:50.320 shady lady katie wrote coordinated efforts are coming from some of these people here are
00:19:56.980 all the names who are in this group chat i'm sharing information background checks reporting
00:20:02.700 accounts whining and complaining all day about candace owens and even sharing candace's own
00:20:08.900 home address in this group chat however i will say that not everyone here participated
00:20:14.480 Some just lurked.
00:20:16.020 Anyway, I am out of here.
00:20:17.240 X is a digital, unfruitful wasteland,
00:20:20.120 and I have a real life and SHIT to do.
00:20:23.320 Go live your lives and build something.
00:20:25.160 And she exposed 92 members in this group chat,
00:20:29.320 which has the name Protecting Mrs. Kirk.
00:20:35.340 Protecting Mrs. Kirk.
00:20:36.220 Now, some of these names are not, we know,
00:20:37.760 this is their, I blocked them because it's just their,
00:20:39.760 it's obvious it's their full-time job to attack me.
00:20:43.280 Milk Bar TV, No Soup for Knolls, Paramount Not-So-Tactical, Brie Dale, Fake Catholic, Insurrection Barbie, you know, just block, block, block, block, block, block, block.
00:20:56.160 It's not even worth my time.
00:20:57.520 Like, it's just the most obvious operation in the world.
00:21:00.220 Nice to see it.
00:21:02.160 Nice to go through these, and you should, go through these 92 absolute losers who are losing despite doing this.
00:21:10.920 I don't coordinate.
00:21:12.160 I'm not on any group chats with 92 operatives, 10 operatives, 6 operatives, 2 operatives.
00:21:17.660 I don't do this.
00:21:19.060 I work with my team.
00:21:20.620 I look for information.
00:21:21.960 I may, you know, reach out, obviously, to people who also care about this case.
00:21:25.320 Baron Coleman, hey, did you see this video?
00:21:27.200 Give him a call.
00:21:27.820 Like, did you find this?
00:21:29.340 Did you cover this topic?
00:21:30.320 Tell me what he knows.
00:21:31.600 No, no one's coordinating to take down Erica Kirk.
00:21:35.340 We're just coordinating to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk.
00:21:37.360 and for some reason these people find it to be synonymous with taking down Erica Kirk I wonder
00:21:44.640 why that is so that's the question why does it take 92 operatives online coordinating sharing
00:21:50.500 my personal information utterly psychotic okay my home address why are they obsessed with the
00:21:57.360 takedown of Candace Owens well the answer is because they know that I know they know that I
00:22:03.820 no no okay we got another bizarre request today this time from the daily mail charlie spearing
00:22:10.580 the one who worked on the trust us bro charlie definitely wanted erica to take over the company
00:22:15.460 because i watched the video the author of that the aspen i watched it so you don't have to guy
00:22:20.880 he wrote this to us today we have sources who believe that candace is being used by foreign
00:22:26.440 operatives sending misinformation through her tip line it is part of a much broader network really
00:22:32.500 foreign operatives sending me the video of the rooftop foreign operatives sending me what like
00:22:40.080 the pictures of the inside of the car take one take two everything that i've exposed what what
00:22:45.840 do you do you feel like came from a foreign operative why do you think the truth is coming
00:22:49.960 from foreign operatives i don't work with foreign operatives this is a real network of people who
00:22:54.740 are dedicating their time to wanting to learn and know what happened to charlie kirk i mean deep down
00:23:01.740 And we all have a sense that the state murdered Charlie Kirk, that clearly it must have had Trump's permission because he's doing nothing to try to get to the bottom of what happened to his dear friend who helped to get him elected twice.
00:23:16.260 And we sense Israel's involvement.
00:23:19.280 That's what's happened.
00:23:20.580 There's no foreign operatives that are working on this case.
00:23:25.300 So, yeah, the real issue is that they know that I know they're desperate now.
00:23:29.500 growing increasingly desperate and manic.
00:23:33.140 We want FBI, raids, anything.
00:23:36.780 But I'm sorry, guys.
00:23:38.580 It's all inevitable, okay?
00:23:41.640 It is inevitable.
00:23:43.820 You are figuratively walking a plank.
00:23:47.660 Charlie was betrayed.
00:23:48.660 You can't spin that.
00:23:50.720 Speaking of which, I have a question for Blakey Neff.
00:23:55.100 Public challenge.
00:23:56.100 Just one question, Blake.
00:23:58.300 Let's see if you can remember.
00:23:59.500 oh-so-transparent one, you, Danny Phillip, Mikey McCoy, and Nate Walker all walked into
00:24:10.040 Timpanogos Hospital together. My question for you is simple. Did you all travel there together?
00:24:17.820 Did all four of you arrive at Timpanogos Hospital in the same car? Yes or no?
00:24:26.500 i'm asking for a reason another question and that's regarding nate walker because what a
00:24:34.680 new thing like to be just a new assistant the one who supplied charlie cook with that freedom t-shirt
00:24:39.680 the internet has taken notice and we would appreciate a clarification on his movements
00:24:45.720 before the explosive goes off because he's a young assistant and at around 12 15 he has his bag as
00:24:53.160 assistants do. I've done many of these events. And he's speaking with Dan Flood. And this is
00:24:59.540 around 1215. I'm going to show you that. You can see he's wearing a bright blue shirt in the corner
00:25:07.080 there. That's him talking. You could just catch him with his bag that's pointing. And then what
00:25:13.840 happens after that, Dan's obviously talking into his shirt. Then Nate with, I guess we're less than
00:25:23.120 T-minus 10 before the explosive goes off, suddenly he's upstairs when that happens.
00:25:33.060 He is, this is him immediately following the explosive around 12.25, so about, I guess,
00:25:40.920 a minute and 45 seconds afterward. Here he is up near the Flag of Hall's walkway putting on
00:25:48.200 sunglasses, and he doesn't have his bag. Ready to take your investing knowledge to
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00:26:15.780 and then we find him two minutes beyond that walking downstairs um so people have questions
00:26:27.940 and i think it's a pretty fair thing you know the public cares about charlie what where why did he
00:26:35.020 go upstairs what was um maybe he went up there i don't i don't know maybe i don't know dan flood
00:26:43.740 asked him to go up there to check on something. I don't know. We don't need to make up a narrative.
00:26:48.500 We don't need to speculate, but we are asking for a specific reason.
00:26:54.640 Anyway, I will leave that at that. I want to get into this Perez Hilton story. I guess,
00:27:01.280 you know what we should probably do. I didn't realize that I've already been going here for
00:27:04.560 30 minutes. Let's take a quick break and then let's cover Perez Hilton. All right, you guys,
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00:30:09.080 Okay, so it's trending everywhere.
00:30:10.940 The video has fortunately been removed from the internet.
00:30:13.900 Of course, you can find it in various pockets,
00:30:16.180 but at least there is some sort of an honest attempt
00:30:18.400 to remove the video across social media.
00:30:21.160 But Perez Hilton, I'm going to tell you a little bit about him
00:30:23.520 for my international listeners,
00:30:25.560 because I obviously did not expect that he made it across the pond.
00:30:29.340 So he is a gay celebrity blogger
00:30:32.800 who really came up in the early 2000s.
00:30:35.960 You could actually argue
00:30:37.020 that he sort of pioneered celebrity blogging
00:30:40.120 in the time and the land before social media.
00:30:43.640 He did it in a way, however, that I should make clear,
00:30:45.980 was very vicious and very mean, right?
00:30:48.640 He would cover celebrities throughout their addictions,
00:30:51.680 eating disorders, their relationships.
00:30:54.360 If they were struggling with anorexia,
00:30:57.040 if they were in rehab, if they were begging for privacy,
00:31:00.140 there was like no place that he wouldn't go.
00:31:02.100 There was nothing he would not publish onto his blog. And he would also include these gratuitous illustrations of these celebrities to suggest as an example that they were addicted to cocaine, like a little white scribble beneath their nose, so to speak, to imply that these people were on drugs.
00:31:19.900 it was incredibly invasive to many celebrities who were all, many of them, extremely young at
00:31:26.640 the time of his publications and dealing with their own insecurities, obviously being in the
00:31:32.100 public eye. They would eventually speak out about how his targeting and bullying contributed to
00:31:38.940 their self-hatred or their self-harm. And to be clear, I want to really stress, he was vicious.
00:31:45.660 He would call people ugly, fat, give them nicknames, and they would sort of—I think a lot of them were, like, permanently damaged from this, one of them being Khloe Kardashian, who has changed her face many times.
00:31:59.260 He really targeted her and referred to her as a transvestite over and over again.
00:32:05.480 Also, there was this massive scandal.
00:32:07.160 To give you an idea of who he was, he posted an upskirt photo of Miley Cyrus, who was then just 17 years old, right?
00:32:14.580 That's the kind of stuff that he would do.
00:32:16.100 And when he was interviewed about it,
00:32:17.280 he would just be like, oh, it's not my fault
00:32:18.760 that like, whatever,
00:32:19.880 this is what the public is interested in.
00:32:21.900 And these celebrities know what they're doing.
00:32:23.680 She's 17 years old.
00:32:24.760 Like, this is not a person that you should be publishing.
00:32:27.340 Now, of course, this,
00:32:29.400 because it was like sort of the dawn of this
00:32:31.340 and people maybe always wondered how celebrities lived
00:32:34.420 and wanted to know about these celebrities,
00:32:37.940 it just completely launched him.
00:32:41.120 It actually gave him so much power in Hollywood.
00:32:43.340 celebrities actually sought his friendship. So you can see he's hanging out with A-listers
00:32:47.680 because he just wanted to be on his good side. It was almost like a form of social blackmail in a
00:32:52.600 way because you didn't want to end up with him tracking you. So that's like Lady Gaga. I mean,
00:32:56.080 he was hosting wild parties with A-list celebrities because people basically wanted to end up on his
00:33:02.660 good list. That's kind of the Perez Hilton phenomena in a nutshell. Now, in 2010, he did
00:33:09.980 a total rebrand. And he offered this public apology, saying that he wanted to change his
00:33:15.320 trajectory, wanted to change his ways, no longer play a part in the industry of bullying that he
00:33:20.840 really built. And he tried to flip his brand by appearing on Ellen DeGeneres' talk show. And here
00:33:27.920 is what he said. So when you asked to be here, I got to say a lot of people have said it's not a
00:33:33.120 good idea and advised me against it and said, why would you want to do that? I believe in giving
00:33:37.040 people second chances and you said you want to change and a lot of people don't believe you but
00:33:41.920 if you say you want to change and you want to i i think it takes a big person to look at
00:33:46.320 themselves and say i've done wrong and i want to change so i want to listen to what you have to say
00:33:50.740 yeah you know over the last week and a half two weeks i've been doing everything i can to bring
00:33:55.840 awareness to the the issue of the teen suicides and gay bullying and in doing so a lot of people
00:34:02.080 have called me a hypocrite and a bully myself and a big one. And that's not how I want to be
00:34:09.420 perceived. And that's not what I want to put out there into the world. And it was a big wake up
00:34:13.660 call that so many people saw me that way. So, you know, from now on, I really want to be part of the
00:34:19.820 solution and not part of the problem. I want to be the change that I want to see in others. So
00:34:23.440 I'm going to do things differently on my website than I have in the past. I'm not going to call
00:34:29.660 people nasty nicknames i'm not gonna go the the mean route i'm gonna force myself to try and
00:34:35.380 be funnier or smarter or just do things differently not doodle inappropriate things not
00:34:40.420 not out people which i have done all of those things in the past that's right so yeah he had
00:34:47.700 a lot of power in hollywood some people were not buying this rebrand especially people who were
00:34:53.500 impacted by the stuff that he did chloe kardashian being one of them she came out and was like this
00:34:57.440 is nice, but no, like you really damaged me. Now, I should mention here, the reason why some people
00:35:02.800 weren't buying this was because at the same time of his attempted rebrand came the dawn of social
00:35:06.720 media. So his relevancy was sort of naturally fading. The paparazzi culture of the 2000s,
00:35:13.400 he benefited from that tremendously. It changed with smartphones, right? Everyone suddenly became
00:35:18.740 the paparazzi. This wasn't like unique capture and celebrity culture transformed. So this was
00:35:24.040 kind of like the Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie phase that he enjoyed the boom of and then that sort of
00:35:30.920 went away. I'm just telling you guys that on background because like I said, I'm sure he didn't
00:35:34.580 make his way across the pond. People don't know who this guy is or why he's trending. But he really
00:35:38.980 did build an empire of sleaze and he embraced it until he didn't. Now, on the personal side of
00:35:44.620 things, you should know that Perez, as a gay single man in the new social media era, made this decision
00:35:50.820 also to have children via surrogacy. He's single. This is becoming an increasingly controversial
00:35:57.240 topic. Gay men using surrogacy, not having another parent in their lives. He chose to
00:36:03.460 have three children, one in 2013, one in 2015, and one in 2017, one boy and two girls. So he
00:36:11.400 is a single father, which is important as we get into what happened last night. These children do
00:36:17.220 not have another parent is what I'm stressing to you. So over recent months, it's been clear that
00:36:21.900 he is going through something. I mean, on March 23rd, he posted videos of himself from a hospital
00:36:27.440 bed and said he almost died from severe sepsis and infections. He claimed that it started with
00:36:34.720 the flu, but he didn't take his medications with food like he was supposed to. So he then developed
00:36:41.280 an ulcer that eventually perforated. He was hospitalized for three weeks and had emergency
00:36:47.600 surgery. And then he said that because he was so close to death, he found God and he started sort
00:36:54.540 of hawking these Christian t-shirts online. And, you know, people either accepted that or thought
00:37:01.680 that this was a new grift, one or the other. Now, yesterday what happened, and I made, like I said,
00:37:07.560 Skyler watched this video last night, so I didn't have to. My husband watched this video,
00:37:11.180 so I didn't have to. I have sensitive eyes and ears. But in the video, which ran live on TikTok,
00:37:16.900 Perez Hilton was fully naked, drenched in blood with multiple cuts all over his body,
00:37:21.960 and he was cutting himself. He can be seen making cuts with a knife all over his body,
00:37:27.420 and he's completely out of it. He's on video, and he's saying things like,
00:37:31.780 I am doing this for my children. He's looking out of the window, recognizing that the police are here,
00:37:37.040 saying, shoot me, you know, mother foes, mother F words, you know what I'm trying to say there.
00:37:43.880 And what happened was the update came from NBC. Obviously, they took him gratefully, peaceably,
00:37:51.000 and they hospitalized him after this live stream. He was doing this on a live stream on TikTok,
00:37:56.680 I should mention. And the police said that they responded to his Miami area home
00:38:03.340 of the celebrity blogger and podcaster Perez Hilton
00:38:06.640 after they received reports that he engaged in self-harm
00:38:09.320 in a live-streamed video Tuesday night.
00:38:11.300 A spokesperson for the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office
00:38:14.020 said in an email that the deputies responded
00:38:15.920 to reports of someone who was live-streaming
00:38:18.280 acts of self-harm on social media.
00:38:20.060 In a follow-up statement, the Sheriff's Office said
00:38:22.160 that the person was safely recovered
00:38:23.640 and taken by Miami-Dade Fire Rescue to a local hospital
00:38:27.540 where he was receiving medical attention.
00:38:29.880 It said the deputies spoke to the family members
00:38:32.020 at the scene who confirmed the person had been alone inside the residence. Those kids were not
00:38:36.100 there. The video, which was streamed on TikTok before the platform pulled it, appeared to show
00:38:40.640 Hilton covered in blood with visible cuts holding a knife. And in the video, viewers pleaded with
00:38:46.080 him and asked for his phone number so that they could alert authorities. And they note that he's
00:38:51.760 a single father with three children born via surrogacy, and he moved back to Miami after
00:38:57.700 living in Las Vegas for three and a half years. Now, I want to share my personal opinion on this.
00:39:02.020 I think Paris Hilton is on drugs.
00:39:04.560 I do.
00:39:05.040 It's an opinion, not a fact, obviously.
00:39:07.060 But as soon as I heard about this, as soon as I heard about the sepsis thing, there was
00:39:12.180 just something about it that felt to me like he is in the throes of a drug addiction.
00:39:15.640 And obviously, there is a deeper irony to that, given how he built his career.
00:39:19.900 But there's been just a lot of changes in his life, moving back into his mother's house,
00:39:25.640 I believe, is accurate.
00:39:26.820 He's living with his mother.
00:39:27.580 His mother's raising his kids.
00:39:29.040 That indicates to me that he's on some sort of a spiral.
00:39:32.020 And not something to be made fun of.
00:39:34.760 I don't think that's funny.
00:39:35.580 That's just my genuine opinion is that you're looking at somebody who has demons, you know,
00:39:40.380 and that he could have been in some sort of a drug-induced psychosis when this went on.
00:39:47.140 He was also saying how he doesn't like himself.
00:39:49.560 And, you know, a lot of that is because Hollywood in general.
00:39:53.980 The broader picture here is that we now have confronted the reality,
00:39:58.480 that sort of glamour and glitter of what we thought Hollywood was has fallen.
00:40:03.400 We don't have the same opinion as we had about celebrities back in the early 2000s.
00:40:09.820 There's something about them that they felt so shiny.
00:40:12.340 And now we realize that these people are crazed, dealing with their own issues,
00:40:17.700 many of them drug addicts, many of them involved in pedophilia.
00:40:20.900 I'm not talking about Perez Hilton.
00:40:22.160 I'm talking about what we've learned about Hollywood and many of them controlled by agents.
00:40:26.080 We've seen now, you know, so many of them try to speak out.
00:40:29.300 We saw what happened to Britney Spears.
00:40:30.660 We saw what happened to Kanye West.
00:40:32.000 We saw what happened to Michael Jackson.
00:40:33.540 And, of course, just what I've learned, how Hollywood was set up.
00:40:37.540 Truly, it was meant to be a cult.
00:40:39.500 It's meant to be demonic.
00:40:41.300 It was meant to draw people away from the church and into the cathedrals of theater.
00:40:46.080 These people are performers and their idea is to attract the masses to, I guess, presentations about whether it's history, you watch a movie, you think it's real.
00:40:59.980 The whole idea is that Hollywood was meant to drive us into it almost like it was psychoanalytical, right?
00:41:09.960 They created Hollywood because they wanted to control what we think.
00:41:12.900 It was meant to be a brainwashing technique, so to speak, when you get into Sigmund Freud and you get into PR and propaganda.
00:41:19.320 That's what Hollywood is.
00:41:20.220 At its core, it's propaganda.
00:41:21.640 And they wanted us to really sort of have this form of pagan belief in these celebrities as something to be worshipped.
00:41:28.140 And it worked.
00:41:28.660 It worked.
00:41:29.480 I would say in my younger years, I was just, oh my gosh, Christina Aguilera. Oh my gosh,
00:41:34.440 these people are amazing. I would do anything to meet Christina Aguilera. That was supposed
00:41:39.100 to be the magic trick. And I think that now we have seen that illusion fade and the fall,
00:41:45.260 so to speak, or the current fall of Perez Hilton sort of represents that moment.
00:41:51.660 But here's what I want to warn about that. When something falls, and I'm referring to Hollywood
00:41:56.080 more broadly, not specifically Perez Hilton, something has to rise to take its place.
00:42:00.240 And I sense so deeply that that same occult worship, that same shiny new fake veneer
00:42:06.520 drawing the youth in is what we are watching right now with the rise of this fake Christian
00:42:13.920 grift that is happening.
00:42:15.460 It is exactly what it fits like.
00:42:17.500 It's Hollywood all over again, but this time it's going to be biblical.
00:42:22.060 The same players are involved.
00:42:23.940 people that were in reality TV are now pretending that they can't get a sentence out without
00:42:28.240 referring to the Lord. It is so much for me what I see happening with Turning Point USA. Like this
00:42:35.040 is it. This is supposed to be the new Hollywood. This is the plan. They're supposed to get your
00:42:38.920 children. They want to be inside of the high schools and you're supposed to look the other
00:42:41.780 way and go, well, this isn't bad. Like maybe your parents were okay with you watching TRL when you
00:42:46.260 got home, whatever. This is just culture. Now they're saying this isn't culture. This is actually
00:42:50.100 god and that's really scary it's the same paganism that is found and they try to protect it and say
00:42:57.100 you can't question it now because we are giving it a new veneer and this veneer is that it's godly
00:43:02.660 and we know scripture and we're not going to address the fact that at you know turning point
00:43:07.660 usa events they're having gay orgies and that this person is cheating on this person this person is
00:43:13.080 sleeping with this person an unbelievable amount of gay men that work at turning point usa
00:43:16.580 that they are working behind the scenes,
00:43:19.400 the same PR agents,
00:43:20.560 the same vicious crisis PR firms
00:43:22.820 that employed Hollywood
00:43:24.860 is now employing these groups
00:43:26.680 like Turning Point USA
00:43:27.540 is now employing these influencers
00:43:29.260 that are targeting your children.
00:43:31.140 That is something
00:43:31.600 that you have to pay attention to.
00:43:33.020 Hollywood is falling
00:43:33.860 and something else is rising
00:43:35.400 to take its place.
00:43:36.140 And in my honest opinion,
00:43:37.380 it's more sadistic
00:43:38.300 because it is targeting people through faith.
00:43:41.320 And I just wanted to say that
00:43:42.860 when I watched this,
00:43:43.700 it's like a new dawn, a new chapter.
00:43:45.220 I do wish, obviously, Perez Hilton, I hope he gets better.
00:43:48.800 I hope he truly finds God and that he gets over whatever it is.
00:43:53.060 And the first way that you're going to get over any spiritual demon that you're dealing with,
00:43:59.960 that's why I do think this is a form of possession, is to be radically honest in your life.
00:44:06.960 Like, you need to be radically honest with what it is that you're going through.
00:44:09.800 And I don't think he is being honest with what it is that he's going through.
00:44:13.060 And beyond anything else, pray for his children.
00:44:15.580 It is a very unfortunate situation.
00:44:18.420 I don't know that I would live in Miami
00:44:19.540 if this is what I was living with or going through.
00:44:23.020 And yeah, I just wanted to make people aware of that.
00:44:25.440 Hollywood is falling, but the occult is not going away.
00:44:28.700 A perfect segue, by the way, into Victor Marks,
00:44:31.220 one of Erica's spiritual advisors.
00:44:32.700 We all get the ick.
00:44:33.540 We all know something's wrong.
00:44:34.580 It's like we listen to Frank Turk.
00:44:35.960 We just go, this doesn't feel godly,
00:44:37.840 but you keep telling me it is.
00:44:38.840 Well, Piers Morgan interviewed Victor Marks
00:44:41.080 and tweeted that it was one of the most bizarre interviews of his career.
00:44:45.420 Yeah.
00:44:46.180 Well, what's funny about this is Piers Morgan has been hosting people
00:44:49.100 attacking me, as he always does, saying I'm wrong.
00:44:52.340 Erica's the widow.
00:44:53.220 He always accepts the slop up in the beginning.
00:44:56.100 And then a year on, he admits that I was right.
00:44:58.480 And so watching him react to Victor Marks is like, this is the door, Piers.
00:45:04.220 This is what we're saying.
00:45:05.320 TPUs faith is something else.
00:45:07.360 What Erica brought in around Charlie is something else.
00:45:10.600 And we noticed, and I want to show you this clip of Pierce Borgen questioning Victor Marks on, you know, just some details about his childhood that he also shared with us on this show.
00:45:19.580 Take a listen.
00:45:20.680 I mean, if you're three years old, though, how are you cutting a cat's head off?
00:45:24.420 That requires a strength, which I've got three sons.
00:45:28.660 None of them would have had the strength at three years old or the dexterity to cut a cat's head off.
00:45:33.820 How have you done that?
00:45:34.820 That's what people are finding a little bit suspicious.
00:45:38.740 I understand.
00:45:39.660 If you put your hand around your son's hand
00:45:42.180 on the knife of a dead cat,
00:45:45.160 could you not cut the head off of it?
00:45:49.860 It wasn't me.
00:45:50.960 No, I would say with great difficulty.
00:45:56.340 Have you?
00:45:59.760 I haven't done it, no.
00:46:01.160 This leads me to probably the most contentious story,
00:46:04.020 which is that when you were seven,
00:46:05.200 The same abusive stepfather forced you to kill a man.
00:46:10.140 Now, local law enforcement and sheriffs in the Mississippi area where this event apparently took place have said there are no records, police reports or unsolved homicides matching your account from that time period.
00:46:24.000 So just to be clear, what exactly do you say happened here?
00:46:28.380 Who was the man?
00:46:29.780 How did you kill him?
00:46:30.800 well i didn't murder anyone because i was a seven-year-old who was forced to shoot a person
00:46:39.740 my stepfather again holding my hand around a pistol to a man who was handcuffed and on his knees
00:46:46.980 uh put his finger over the trigger and pushed it until the man was shot i don't know who he was
00:46:54.180 he best i can remember he looked like a homeless fella so you've no idea where this happened or
00:47:00.780 who the person was when you can see why people might be saying come on victor this really happened
00:47:06.320 i mean i let me put it to you a different scenario which is and i don't want you to be offended by
00:47:11.000 this i'm just putting it to you because i know it's something that can be a phenomenon
00:47:13.520 where people you said that these revelations have come out very later in your life that a lot of
00:47:20.180 people when they've suffered abuse or trauma whatever it may be their mind can play games
00:47:24.920 with them it can it can you know persuade them and i'm not saying this has happened but many
00:47:31.100 people find some of these claims outlandish that perhaps your mind is playing games and these
00:47:36.620 incidents didn't actually happen but because of your abuse you have persuaded yourself that they
00:47:43.260 may have done is that a possibility well i studied and the answer is it's possible i mean i studied
00:47:50.260 false memories and had 123 visits to a trauma specialist. This is nothing that I wanted to go
00:47:56.900 back to, but it's something that was still affecting my life. And, you know, we live in a very evil
00:48:04.580 world. It's possible he made everything up. I'm glad he got to that point. It's definitely possible
00:48:11.080 he made everything up. And yeah, like I said, Pierce, keep going because we've done a lot of
00:48:16.060 work on this and he's not the only one that make maybe has false memories everything about erica's
00:48:21.480 past you start looking into it and you're just falling through a dark hole everything she
00:48:26.640 presented herself to be to charlie is and you just want us to let it go it's no this is who
00:48:31.720 she was bringing around this is the first person who we got erica home greeted her in her and
00:48:37.960 charlie's apartment crying sharing across instagram these are you're looking at turning
00:48:43.360 Point USA faith, and they want access to children. They're all wacky. They're all crazy pastors. You
00:48:49.960 got Frank Turek hoping, saying, signaling that I should be struck down, using the Bible, the good
00:48:55.840 Bible, of course, to do it. Yeah. Keep going, Pierce. I think eventually you will start to
00:49:01.960 realize why people have a lot of questions about the faith push that Erica brought to Charlie
00:49:07.260 through Turning Point USA.
00:49:10.920 Anyway, we are going to take a brief break
00:49:13.480 and we will be right back.
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00:51:14.960 Era writes, I have never known people to be so eager to not solve a crime. Yeah, that's Turning
00:51:19.980 Point USA in a nutshell. They're just not interested in exploring any other leads. They
00:51:23.880 can't articulate why they think Tyler Robinson did it. And they keep accusing us of being the
00:51:28.140 people that are going off of vibes when actually they are the conspiracy theorists. They're going
00:51:31.900 off of vibes. You can't just look at a blurry image and be like, that's Tyler Robinson. That's
00:51:34.700 crazy. That's absolutely crazy. You have to show some evidence of something, make something make
00:51:39.600 sense. And yeah, like I said, using influencers to lie to the public is actually just increasing
00:51:46.520 the amount of people who generally find you and your behavior to be suspicious. It's like it's
00:51:53.060 having the opposite desired effect. So maybe a time to switch game plans there. Second comment,
00:51:59.200 this person writes, Blake Neff's anger single-handedly makes the entire TPUSA look
00:52:03.640 completely guilty. Yeah, I've never, it's crazy that they keep allowing him to have a platform.
00:52:09.020 I don't see what the upside of that is. Like, was that promised to him that he was going to
00:52:13.780 take over Charlie Kirk's show or something? I just don't get it. It's so abysmal. It hurts them.
00:52:18.400 And you wonder who is doing their PR because it is just so misguided and it just catalyzes their descent into chaos.
00:52:27.560 Like it doesn't make any sense to the public what they're doing, why they're doing it, or why they think that by spending enough money or hosting these people, they're going to be able to convince people not to believe their own eyes and their own ears.
00:52:39.620 I also want to offer an update yesterday when I was talking about the burial.
00:52:43.740 I was a bit uneducated when I said that I believed that you were not allowed to be cremated as a Catholic.
00:52:50.540 Somebody sent me an email and reminded me or actually informed me that actually under Novus Ordo, so that is sort of the 60s update, actually, yes, there is a document which discusses and beginning in the 60s, I think in 1963, you are allowed to be cremated under certain circumstances.
00:53:10.600 And so the person linked that.
00:53:11.960 So I want to issue that correction and also plead ignorance because I told you guys that
00:53:16.440 when I was baptized Catholic, it was done in the traditional Latin rites.
00:53:20.620 My priest is everything is Latin rites, Latin rites.
00:53:24.280 It is not.
00:53:25.020 I attend Latin mass.
00:53:26.200 I don't know enough about Novus Ordo is what I would say.
00:53:30.860 And so I always want to correct when I get something wrong.
00:53:34.300 And that was, yeah, you were correct on that.
00:53:36.740 I looked that up and sorry.
00:53:38.720 That's why I shouldn't, I don't speak too much on Catholic affairs because I'm still learning and I would be the most uneducated about Novus Ordo.
00:53:46.600 So there's that.
00:53:48.040 Comments from today's episode.
00:53:50.860 True Detective writes, after Charlie Kirk's murder, I watched a video of him saying that he wants to be remembered for the courage of his faith.
00:53:57.260 This led me to enroll in OCIA and be baptized in the Roman Catholic Church this past Easter.
00:54:02.120 His physical death inspired a spiritual awakening.
00:54:04.380 Keep fighting, Candace.
00:54:05.340 It is honestly tremendous to consider that the push after Charlie died was so evangelical that they were angry and nasty and bitter towards Catholics.
00:54:14.880 Like, you couldn't even just be like, oh, my last conversation with Charlie, I was like, take a step, become Catholic.
00:54:18.320 And they were like, ah, influencers.
00:54:20.240 And yet, again, had the opposite desired effect.
00:54:23.460 The Catholic Church grew so much after Charlie's assassination.
00:54:27.440 And obviously, I'm sure you've seen this, but like the Southern Baptist Convention, the numbers have been way down and going down every year.
00:54:34.780 And I think it's partially in part to do, and this doesn't mean that every evangelical church is like this, but we've seen too many in the public eye using Charlie Kirk's name that appear to be completely and utterly fraudulent people who take a position and a stage and say, I'm his pastor or I was his pastor.
00:54:53.200 And they just come across the complete sleazeballs that are actually not dedicated to faith, not dedicated to anything other than making people support Israel.
00:55:01.600 So it is interesting to consider that
00:55:03.360 and also welcome home, as Catholics say.
00:55:06.760 Kyle, it is just who I am, writes,
00:55:09.040 so much self Zionist in here right now.
00:55:11.620 It's so hilarious that they are spending so much money
00:55:13.340 to get accounts to say such brainless beef.
00:55:16.040 They can't actually think it's doing anything, right?
00:55:18.380 I don't think they realize that we've hit critical mass
00:55:20.840 and we know that they're doing it.
00:55:22.360 So it doesn't work.
00:55:23.860 It just doesn't work.
00:55:24.900 I feel like it's a waste of so much energy.
00:55:26.980 Like they could just be doing something else,
00:55:29.280 but they have to do this.
00:55:30.820 it's terrifying though that they're just sharing my address in private chats these like they're
00:55:34.880 they are deranged and obsessed in a way that feels dangerous and we knew when that was all
00:55:39.980 happening when they were publishing my kids cars and stuff that and it was it was meant to scare
00:55:45.300 me and it is scary it definitely is scary um as a parent obviously that they just have no boundaries
00:55:52.240 and that i i mean i would i have no interest in publishing erica's address like why would i want
00:55:57.780 to be in a chat with 91 people being like this is this is where erica lives that's what is it about
00:56:03.140 actually just respond to the questions that are being asked of you the truth is enough like i
00:56:07.440 said nobody is trying to take down erica kirk we just want to figure out who killed charlie kirk
00:56:12.980 and for some reason those two concepts for you are synonymous finding out who killed charlie kirk
00:56:21.220 is akin to taking down erica kirk why is that why is that that's what we're getting from you
00:56:27.780 Ben the Beast writes, huge fan of yours and Andrew Tate. I love the interview that you did with him. What are your thoughts on his most recent arrest? In my opinion, it's another matrix attack. Keep up the amazing work. So I had gotten very, like whenever I comment on things, I always want to take the time to read files and understand what's happening and offer my like, you know, I guess non-legal perspective. Like I'm definitely not a legal professional, but I do feel like I understand legal documents. And I was very much involved in reading through his Romanian documents when the charges were against him.
00:56:55.420 and I said, this case is going to fall apart.
00:56:57.180 And people came at me and were like, how could you?
00:56:58.820 And then the case fell apart.
00:56:59.840 I had never seen such clear evidence that the girl,
00:57:02.980 there were actual literal text messages in WhatsApp
00:57:05.140 of her describing what she was doing
00:57:08.580 and trying to get a free ride to Paris or London.
00:57:11.660 And so I gave my opinion on that
00:57:13.300 because I felt like my opinion was educated.
00:57:14.800 I have not had time,
00:57:16.160 given everything that's going on,
00:57:17.180 to look into the UK case.
00:57:19.060 I always felt like Romania was kind of holding him
00:57:21.400 because the UK wanted them.
00:57:23.440 And so I've just been,
00:57:24.520 And the only thing I know right now are the headlines, which is like this is a case from just like Russell Brands.
00:57:29.740 It's like very a long time ago.
00:57:31.500 I need to go through the documents and I am intending to do that and to give my opinion on what's actually happening in the UK.
00:57:37.060 Obviously, it is utter madness that Andrew and Tristan Tate are in solitary confinement and we are living in a time where he got taken in Florida, the home of Jeffrey Epstein.
00:57:49.380 And Jeffrey Epstein just lived the greatest life there.
00:57:51.960 nobody that is a part of the Epstein network has been taken down. In fact, they have been covered
00:57:55.940 up and have been protected by this administration. And so my mind just goes to just that understanding
00:58:04.740 immediately that if any government was actually committed to taking down traffickers, the entire
00:58:10.480 Epstein list and the people who were benefited and had a relationship with Epstein and went
00:58:16.200 onto that island would be exposed. And yet they are in power. So there's that. But I do intend
00:58:21.480 to get into exactly the case
00:58:22.820 and to explain to the public
00:58:24.280 what's going on with that.
00:58:25.780 Tony Hill writes,
00:58:26.380 hi, Candice, congratulations on the new baby.
00:58:28.000 I'm always so happy for you every time,
00:58:29.640 except I know that you,
00:58:30.920 that the time will come
00:58:31.720 where you have to take a break from the show
00:58:33.180 to welcome the baby
00:58:34.060 as I sit with Candice withdrawals, LOL.
00:58:36.260 Thank you for showing us true strength.
00:58:37.620 We love you.
00:58:38.160 Yes, maternity leave always comes
00:58:39.640 with the news of the new baby.
00:58:42.220 And I do miss you guys.
00:58:43.320 And it's, it is,
00:58:44.240 it just, it's going to come around so quickly
00:58:46.020 and then I'll be gone,
00:58:48.460 but then I'll be back.
00:58:49.400 So there's that.
00:58:50.300 And we'll have time to do a lot of research, which I can't wait for.
00:58:55.300 That's why we take off every sixth or seventh week, whatever it is we do here, so that we
00:58:58.960 can research because there's a lot of information and a lot of stuff that's coming out.
00:59:03.800 And of course, they're going to be announcing soon, I guess September, less like, what is
00:59:09.620 it, September 5th, Ashley, that they're supposed to be saying whether or not they're going
00:59:12.880 to go through with the Tyler Robinson trial.
00:59:17.900 September 1st.
00:59:18.720 OK, yeah, so less than a month.
00:59:20.300 and that's going to open a whole new can of worms.
00:59:22.820 Like I said, I'm hoping it goes through.
00:59:24.540 I want to see this thing through
00:59:27.420 and see what this looks like
00:59:30.180 and how they lie and how deep this is.
00:59:33.400 So there's that.
00:59:34.960 I certainly don't think Tyler Robinson
00:59:37.960 killed Charlie Kirk on a rooftop
00:59:39.660 and acted alone.
00:59:42.680 Olympia writes,
00:59:43.400 it sounds like Perez had a psychotic break.
00:59:45.080 It's very sad,
00:59:45.680 but honestly, when you live a life like that,
00:59:47.120 you invite demonic activity into your world,
00:59:48.940 in my opinion.
00:59:49.600 I agree.
00:59:50.300 I agree. All that glitters is not gold. And he's now at a later phase in his life. He's understanding that. His relationships were not real. What he did for a living, really, was not real. And I think he's kind of floundering. He doesn't know who he is or what his identity is outside of that early fame that he enjoyed.
01:00:09.760 and that is why it is so important to build a life of substance, a life with family, a life
01:00:15.980 with friends that are not pursuing the public eye. When we laughed, I remember that guy Adam
01:00:23.060 on PBD was like, where are Candice's famous friends? What a bizarre thing to say.
01:00:29.600 What does that mean? Pursue real things in your life, things that are filling and
01:00:36.160 yeah, you will be fulfilled. There's that. And have faith. I really hope for him that he finds
01:00:43.720 true faith. I think he's kind of in the wilderness right now. Lola Wilde writes,
01:00:48.300 I love you, Candice. Let's give him grace. What if he was doing it for his kids because they were
01:00:51.740 getting payback through a humiliation ritual or sacrifice one of his kids? Maybe leaving the
01:00:58.320 Crowley, Hollyweird cult. Pray for the kids. Absolutely pray for the kids. And I'm giving
01:01:03.680 thank him, Grace. I don't have anything bad to say about Perez Hilton. He's never done anything
01:01:07.640 to me that I know of. Maybe he has. Maybe there was actually an article or two that someone told
01:01:11.720 me about. It's not relevant to me and what I'm doing here. I just think that there is a broader
01:01:17.220 conversation that needs to happen about what this symbolizes. And yes, there are elements of this
01:01:22.540 that are demonic. And yes, you should pray for everybody, even your enemies, when they are
01:01:27.520 dealing with a spiritual possession. I'm just saying that we are watching and we have been
01:01:32.840 watching the collapse of hollywood he signifies that moment in a way and beware of where that's
01:01:39.540 re-emerging because that's it's it's the fake faith grift i think we all see that exact same
01:01:45.100 thing with a bible bend which is to me even more deeply demonic to be true to be honest
01:01:51.400 okay um i think i answered everything oh damn it writes to all of her detractors i must say there
01:01:59.200 is a beautiful soul glowing within candace owens there is a beautiful soul growing i should say
01:02:04.700 within um you know just i just love my kids they're so great and i just have tons of kids guys
01:02:11.420 i i just should say that they just make you laugh they're so funny they're especially at this age
01:02:16.400 where they don't know anything but they think they know everything and just the things that
01:02:19.860 they say are just watching the way their brains work i just every single day without fail there
01:02:25.200 is just a moment where i am just laughing so hard at something that one of my children has said and
01:02:29.180 it's it is important to give yourself that perspective to dealing with little people
01:02:34.260 problems um it you know it just makes me happy every day that's i think that's the reason why
01:02:40.340 i'm happy is because i have kids and they add joy to my life and i have a full family life
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01:03:37.500 You know, I love you guys.
01:03:38.620 We will see you tomorrow.
01:03:51.440 Bye.