Candace Owens - October 01, 2025


BREAKING NEWS： A Woman Was Seen With Charlie Kirk's Shooter ｜ Candace Ep 246


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

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190.77187

Word Count

9,668

Sentence Count

744

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The countdown begins now, ladies and gentlemen. I'm telling you that you can begin your timers
00:00:06.160 because it is not going to be long until the media tries to convince you that Megyn Kelly,
00:00:12.000 yes, that Megyn Kelly, is Adolf Hitler. I'm not kidding. It's definitely coming. There is going
00:00:17.560 to be some headline in the near future that reads, Megyn Kelly is flirting with anti-Semitism. You
00:00:24.100 can book it. Why? Because out of nowhere, and for absolutely no apparent reason at all,
00:00:31.200 the agents, like I think of them as like Mr. Smith and the Matrix, have around, I guess they're
00:00:38.020 surrounding Megyn Kelly and demanding that she makes a statement against me and Tucker Carlson.
00:00:44.620 Of course, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. It is so bonkers. I got to show you what they are saying
00:00:48.740 to her. Before we get into that, some incredible breaking news. We have now confirmed that there
00:00:53.400 was indeed a woman who was with the shooter in the footage that was captured by the houses nearby the
00:00:59.980 area. And for whatever reason, the FBI has not yet released or even acknowledged that that footage
00:01:05.460 exists. This is absolutely huge, actually. I think this is the biggest thing that we have uncovered
00:01:10.120 since the beginning of this investigation. So let's jump right back into this. Welcome back to Candace.
00:01:23.400 Okay, so a couple of things that I want to clarify right at the top here, because sometimes we get a
00:01:33.800 ton of emails about one subject that we've already researched, and that is the case regarding, first
00:01:39.740 and foremost, you're seeing a lot of this chatter going around about the renting of the State Farm
00:01:45.560 Stadium for Charlie Kirk's memorial service. I think there were 90,000 people that attended and then
00:01:51.100 spilled over. And many people online have speculated accurately, by the way, so some credit to you
00:01:56.680 guys, that in order to book a venue of that size, you would have had to done so in advance, right?
00:02:03.120 Venue contracts do not just materialize out of nowhere for a space that holds that many people
00:02:08.640 plus spillover. Now, given my many sources at Turning Point USA, I was able to quickly get an answer
00:02:15.040 on that one for the public. The venue was indeed secured in quick order, but that was because they
00:02:21.200 had help from the White House, and Turning Point did not book that venue back in May, so we can
00:02:27.040 formally debunk that. I was told that the White House stepped in and put in a personal phone call
00:02:33.000 to the event coordinator, and they actually did already have an event that was scheduled,
00:02:39.860 and the White House simply asked those people if they would be willing to move or reschedule their
00:02:45.340 events. It was apparently supposed to be an RV show, actually. And obviously, given the nature of
00:02:50.000 the tragedy, it was globally traumatizing to everybody. I think everybody was moved by Charlie
00:02:55.960 Kirk's assassination. The people that held that space were willing to oblige it. So that tracks with
00:03:01.660 me. That seems accurate. I just wanted to help you guys with that information. Also, another thing that
00:03:06.900 I came across, and this is regarding Phil Lyman's campaign website. You guys were asking me if we
00:03:11.920 came across that. Yes, I did come across that, and I actually, in the short run, didn't think much of
00:03:18.520 it because I thought, okay, well, he was running a campaign, and he has a website, and maybe people were
00:03:23.320 writing in reviews and saying he was a great person. But yes, we were aware that George Zinn is one of
00:03:30.460 just 20 people. That is a featured endorsement. He endorses Phil Lyman's character. You can see
00:03:37.560 that here. George Zinn writes, rare to find a more caring man with uncompromising goals to make Utah
00:03:43.340 great for generations than Phil Lyman. Not a politician who can be pampered. Phil has a knowledge
00:03:48.180 of urban and rural Utah from every corner and community. Utah is in desperate need of true
00:03:53.340 leadership and representation, and Phil has the passion and the values to be a great governor. He needs
00:03:58.100 our support. Now, I'm not sure what to make of that. I did want to use Wayback Machine to see whether or
00:04:05.680 not that was a new entry. Maybe somebody is trolling there. And no, they are not. That entry has been
00:04:12.940 there at least since, and I'm going to show you this on Wayback, at least since June 6, 2024. So I don't
00:04:22.140 know what to make of that. Now, I will say other locals told us that George Zinn, for whatever reason,
00:04:28.780 is very involved in Republican politics. Take from that what you will, meaning that he shows up to a
00:04:36.940 lot of events. But of course, Phil Lyman's people would have been controlling that website, certainly
00:04:41.580 should have been aware of his erotic character, and maybe wouldn't want to have featured him on that
00:04:47.180 website. I don't know. It's definitely something to consider. Some other things that are of interest.
00:04:54.320 Okay. Yesterday, we mentioned that apparently it was kind of everybody's first day on the job,
00:05:00.860 right? 9, 10 was everybody's first day on the job, meaning that there were a lot of these recent and
00:05:06.580 brand new hires in Utah that would all kind of come across and have to deal with this case. Cash Patel,
00:05:12.940 I told you, cleaned house at the state borough. He then installs a person that has a long tenure in
00:05:19.800 D.C., Robert Bowles. His first case is Charlie Kirk's assassination. Why would he want to uproot
00:05:25.960 and move his family to Utah after having moved to Virginia for so long? I don't know, but that's the
00:05:31.960 circumstance. Also, I told you there was a new CEO and therefore a new lead surgeon, Andrew Zenger,
00:05:40.000 over at the hospital, the regional hospital that Charlie was taken to, although that was not the
00:05:45.920 nearest hospital from the university, and it also ranked extremely low in terms of the most best
00:05:53.060 equipped hospital, if you will, to deal with the sort of trauma that Charlie was suffering from, a neck
00:05:58.960 wound, obviously. So it's very strange. I think it would be interesting to learn whether or not that
00:06:06.340 new CEO and surgeon worked on Charlie. That's something that I would like to find out. If you
00:06:11.760 know that information, please send it to us at tips at CandaceOwens.com. Okay. That's not it,
00:06:18.720 though. There were also some other new people, and I forgot to mention the judge that is in the case,
00:06:24.960 that is overseeing the case against Tyler Robinson, is Judge Tony F. Graff, Jr. He was recently
00:06:32.180 appointed to the 4th District Court in May of 2025 by Governor Spencer Cox. I was also informed
00:06:41.120 that the coroner in this case was also brand spanking new. That name has not yet been released.
00:06:49.160 I am told that person is new. Okay. And I have also learned, I've been told that Charlie did indeed
00:06:57.460 have an autopsy. I wanted to let you guys know that because I saw a lot of rumors that were circulating
00:07:01.380 that he did not have an autopsy. That has been confirmed. An autopsy did take place. By the way,
00:07:08.100 you should know that in the state of Utah, in case you, like me, are maybe holding your breath that
00:07:12.140 we're going to see that report, those reports are actually kept private. So there isn't going to be
00:07:18.120 some big release outside of what maybe the immediate family members wishing for that and saying,
00:07:24.120 I feel like something's wrong and I would now like to release the autopsy report. That's the only way
00:07:27.600 that we are going to be able to see it. That's at least what I've learned. Now let's jump back into
00:07:33.680 what actually took place on that day because I'm starting to get a bit of a stronger hunch about
00:07:40.560 things. We'll jump back in here regarding Shaner Broderick, who is, according to Phil Lyman,
00:07:47.220 a cousin who he refers to Phil as his uncle across interviews. Doesn't matter. They're family members
00:07:53.620 is the main point and they know each other. And Shaner Broderick has, of course, mysteriously deleted
00:07:59.340 all of his socials except for Instagram, but he's wiped his Instagram. Okay. Just deleted his Facebook
00:08:06.440 and just outright deleted his LinkedIn page because I asked him a question before we even went live.
00:08:11.840 That was his response. Okay. Now he did this not before I grabbed everything that I needed from his
00:08:19.920 pages. I just had a suspicion that he might not be willing to participate. And I was operating under
00:08:29.760 the assumption that he might just privatize his socials. So I instructed my team to grab everything
00:08:34.700 before I even made contact. Now, what I did not anticipate was that he would delete the content.
00:08:40.840 Okay. Why would, why would he delete the content? That part never wasn't tracking for me. It didn't
00:08:47.020 make sense to me. Now it sort of maybe does make a lot of sense to me. So you will recall that we had
00:08:55.000 received a lead live on the show. Someone paid money to inform us that there was footage that the FBI
00:09:01.300 was hiding, right? She wrote in, said, I have been trying to reach out to you everywhere. The FBI is hiding
00:09:06.940 footage. The doorbell cam footage had more. This is what the person told us.
00:09:10.840 She said, um, the shooter is then seen changing his clothes and he is with a woman. She told me that
00:09:20.580 she gives me a name. And that name, uh, was, uh, another Lyman family member. And that's when my
00:09:27.540 spidey senses started tingling. I'm like, okay, this is a lot of Limans. Now I want to be very clear
00:09:31.660 and fair to Phil Lyman. He has been forthcoming about the fact that his family owned that property.
00:09:36.060 Like they own everything there. That is not mysterious. He's not hiding that fact. UVU
00:09:40.700 in many ways purchased, uh, the university from his family, right? That the, the acreage from his
00:09:46.300 family for that university. Um, but I did feel that if that is the case, obviously, um, then Phil Lyman
00:09:56.020 would in theory be able to access that, um, access that footage, right. Be able to speak to his family
00:10:03.840 members. And yeah, I didn't want to come out and say that it was a fact that the woman, that there
00:10:12.040 was a woman with the shooter without any proof. We had no, we had no proof outside of this person.
00:10:17.720 And what she was saying felt real to me definitively, but I needed something more
00:10:22.300 solid. Well, we came across something more solid. Um, we reviewed the footage that Shainer brought
00:10:29.180 her. Of course, we downloaded everything, but hadn't actually reviewed it, had wiped from the
00:10:32.500 internet. And, uh, yeah, the proof is in the pudding and I'm going to let you hear it. Now to set this
00:10:38.400 up, you will recall that Shainer and his close friends that nobody knows, apparently, they were
00:10:45.880 retracing the footsteps of the killer. They were at his grandma's house, he said, and he's speaking
00:10:53.040 on camera with his aunt to set this footage up for you. And sure enough, you're going to hear
00:10:58.460 right in the beginning, uh, his aunt is going to mention that there was a woman who was helping the
00:11:03.820 shooter and she's not sure whether or not that person was an accomplice. I know I would say if you're
00:11:08.660 helping, you're helping the shooter, you were an accomplice, uh, accomplice, but somehow we all missed
00:11:14.220 this in this actual clip that Shainer had posted and has since been wiped from the internet.
00:11:19.880 Take a listen.
00:11:21.080 If you tap time, how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way
00:11:27.780 longer than it should have been. So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff, like if there
00:11:32.880 isn't a accomplice. Sorry, you're filming.
00:11:35.260 And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here.
00:11:39.880 Yep. So you see, she's talking about the shooter and she says, I was wondering if the girl had given
00:11:47.460 him stuff and then somebody off camera says, you know, you're filming and she says, I'm sorry that
00:11:51.440 you're filming, but it's very clear. There's no question at all. In fact, leading into that,
00:11:56.560 which we should have maybe cut that a little bit earlier, they're speaking about how she thought
00:11:59.420 the FBI had it wrong. The timing didn't make sense to her. Um, and she, that's what she started
00:12:04.140 with. I don't, you know, the timing doesn't make sense to me because I thought that it took a little
00:12:08.040 longer for him to walk. Let's play that again, Skylar, just so they can hear it again. She says
00:12:12.420 that there's a girl. Take a listen.
00:12:14.400 If you tap time, how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way longer than
00:12:21.620 it should have been. So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff, like if there isn't a accomplice.
00:12:27.660 Sorry, you're filming.
00:12:28.560 And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here.
00:12:33.180 Okay. So we have the woman who was my source who said that the FBI cut the footage and she was
00:12:43.100 certain of it. And now we have actually the woman who handed over her footage to the FBI saying,
00:12:48.980 I wondered if that woman was an accomplice.
00:12:53.500 Ladies and gentlemen, what the heck is going on? Who was the woman that was with the alleged
00:12:59.740 shooter? Why wouldn't the FBI immediately release that? Now, again, you should recall that the very
00:13:05.860 next morning on September the 11th, TMZ already had the doorbell cam footage. Okay. So that means
00:13:14.320 that the FBI already had the footage, right? They would have seen that there was a woman with the
00:13:21.900 shooter. And yet they chose during this manhunt, during this 33 hour manhunt, not to inform the public
00:13:29.720 that they were also looking for a woman who this lady believes she wondered whether or not she
00:13:39.400 would have been an accomplice if that was his accomplice. What happened to this lady? Who is
00:13:45.280 the girl, the woman that was in this footage, guys? I don't know. What are your ideas here? Why would the
00:13:51.640 FBI not tell us something so evidently crucial to this story that we have a woman that's involved?
00:14:00.640 What does she look like? How old is she? I obviously did the sensible thing, right? I reached out to
00:14:11.500 Phil Lyman because it's his family. And I asked him whether or not he would be willing to track down
00:14:16.320 his footage for me. And he's not happy with me. He's angry. I mean, he said really not nice things to me.
00:14:22.940 He started asking me if I had something to do with the shooting. Okay. And I basically just stayed focused
00:14:29.560 and said, Phil, okay, we showed your footage. He's very upset about cousin versus nephew. I said, it's all
00:14:36.800 irrelevant. If you're saying you actually want to help us catch the killer, right? If that's really where your
00:14:43.160 heart was, if that's really why you injected yourself so much into this story, why wouldn't
00:14:49.280 you, knowing how deeply I care about this, walk over while you're in the neighborhood popping by,
00:14:56.420 walk over to your aunt, grandma, cousins, I don't care whose house, and say, hey, you said there was
00:15:02.320 an accomplice, that there was a woman, okay, that might've been an accomplice. Do you mind letting me
00:15:06.920 see the raw footage so that I can hand it over to Candice? In fact, how about just giving me
00:15:11.520 any of the footage that your family rushed to give it to TMZ? Why did they rush to give it to TMZ?
00:15:16.860 By the way, you definitely said you were at your cousin's house and that you hadn't seen the
00:15:22.860 footage. You were watching it live with Kayleigh McEnany on Fox News. That's what you said during
00:15:28.580 that segment, right? This is the first time I'm seeing this footage. So apparently your cousin,
00:15:33.780 close enough to go to their house, but your cousin decides to give the footage of TMZ before you can
00:15:37.760 even see it. Okay, maybe, maybe the feds gave it. That's another assumption. That's the only two
00:15:42.220 options. Either your cousin gave it to TMZ or the feds gave a portion of it to TMZ, which begs the
00:15:47.680 question, why were we not told about the woman? Who was the woman? We should now all be putting a lot
00:15:56.300 of pressure on the FBI to make a statement about why the woman who hands over her footage, I have now
00:16:00.540 twice confirmed in her own mouth and from a source that there was a lady in that footage with the
00:16:05.980 shooter. So why are they worried about that being caught on camera? Oh, sorry. I didn't realize
00:16:10.580 you were filming. What's that about? It's like everybody knows something that I don't know.
00:16:15.980 And I want to be in the know on what happened to Charlie Kirk on 9-10. So if you have any tips
00:16:22.160 pertaining to who the woman was that was caught, please let me know. I am going to try again to
00:16:31.160 reach out to this family since I don't think that Phil Lyman wants to assist me. He doesn't
00:16:36.120 like me. That's fine. I wonder if he likes truth. If he likes trying to solve this thing,
00:16:40.560 that would be great as well. If he doesn't want to talk to me, I'm happy to put him in touch with
00:16:43.780 another journalist. But if you know something more and you'd like to reach out to us, please
00:16:48.720 do. Reach out to us on social media. And I please ask again that you guys reserve not sending us
00:16:53.660 videos and TikToks and links, but rather if you have information, please use tips at
00:16:59.000 CandaceOwns.com. I love you all and I love that the whole world wants to know what happened
00:17:02.420 and I'm grateful for that. But there are just, there's only so much data that an inbox can take
00:17:07.200 and we might have to just make a second, a second lines what I think we should do. Skylar,
00:17:11.500 we should talk about that. Okay. Now we, we turn our attention back to the mysterious individual
00:17:17.400 that is next to Shainer, right? We discovered that one person was from Austria and then we're
00:17:25.200 going, who's this goth kid that, uh, Phil has been clear. He does not know him. Phil Lemon does
00:17:30.440 not know this individual. Could I help identify him? I told you it was unusual that our inbox
00:17:35.520 wasn't instantly flooded with people telling us exactly who it was. Well, then we did get another
00:17:40.400 hit on him and a handful of you similarly found the same person that we did, a person going by the
00:17:49.820 name, Robbie Hilde, who is allegedly from Washington. Now let me tell you why I don't
00:17:56.500 think this is his true identity. Okay. Because if this was just some kid who grew up in Washington
00:18:02.420 and went to school in Utah, my inbox would be flooded with that name and it's not. Okay. It's
00:18:07.580 simply not. Oddly, no one has come forward to claim that they know Robbie Hilde. They're all just
00:18:12.240 saying, I got a hit. I got a hit. This might be him. No one is saying they went to school with him.
00:18:17.320 This is a young college student. He's allegedly, like I said, from Washington state and no one
00:18:23.280 personally can say, I know this person. How could that be? How could that be? I'm going to tell you
00:18:30.440 something. So I'm starting to get a hunch about things and, uh, we're going to go more deeply
00:18:34.660 into this tomorrow, but many of you guys have been sending those clues about the Azov Battalion,
00:18:39.440 about, um, Ukrainian, Russian, uh, people that were coming into Utah. There seems to be some
00:18:46.720 organized movement, people that are being given new identities. Actually one person, uh, wrote us
00:18:52.180 and told us that UVU in and of itself as a campus, uh, has an unbelievable amount of dedication. I
00:18:59.520 mean, even the president's, I'm blanking on her name, it like majored in Soviet studies. Like they
00:19:04.360 have a direct pipeline from Russia to America. It's very interesting. And yes, it is true. It is a fact
00:19:12.960 that Tyler Robinson, we can't confirm that this is Mike Mitchell, but there are old photos of Tyler
00:19:20.700 Robinson when he's a lot younger visiting his uncle Mikey. Okay. His uncle Mikey who is working
00:19:29.140 with the Ukrainian Azov Battalion. Okay. He's a military man. And that gets really interesting
00:19:36.420 when I start to combine all of the aspects of this case. And again, we are still in theory territory,
00:19:41.520 but I feel like we are in strong, I'm starting to get a stronger than a theory and more of a hunch
00:19:45.960 that this was a military operation and people that executed this are actually from overseas.
00:19:54.700 And when you look at the aspects of the UVU case and their strong ties to that region,
00:20:00.360 things get really interesting. When you look at UVU campus and their strong ties, um, to the CIA,
00:20:07.180 things start to get really interesting. Right. And I, I think this is a path that needs to be
00:20:13.380 pursued that these people have different identities and that they are perhaps all from overseas. And
00:20:18.680 it turns out that there have been the New York times has reported on, uh, Russian Ukrainian spies
00:20:24.940 that are building new lives from themselves with new IDs, uh, in America, in Brazil, essentially what
00:20:32.620 we're talking about are, are terrorist cells. I believe that. I believe that with the Ukrainian
00:20:36.760 war. Okay. And they always hack us emotionally. Oh, we need to have open borders. It allows them to
00:20:44.380 get in people that are perhaps completely insane and deranged. And they are in fact, uh, raising little
00:20:51.900 militants and they're executing these programs. And let me tell you, if this is correct, if this is
00:20:58.720 sort of like a, a neo Bolshevik militant tribe, then we need to be concerned. And spiritually,
00:21:07.000 I can tell you how I feel spiritually. That feels right to me. I've been pleading with you guys to
00:21:11.980 get your kids out of these schools. I am telling you that something very dark is going on and I'm
00:21:16.200 going to continue to stress to you that you need to take your children out of school, homeschool your
00:21:20.580 children. There is, there is something dark that I am perceiving that is happening, not just in public
00:21:25.920 schools, but in private schools as well. Okay. Why our kids had to go. We couldn't get basic answers
00:21:31.120 about somebody that had kind of fallen into the, through the cracks and was posting Polish underground
00:21:36.860 symbols. Her, her, her parent was posting a Polish underground symbols. And I realized something was
00:21:42.340 wrong. Something was off. I'm showing you this just, this is like one headline and this is translated
00:21:47.540 from Russia by Russian, by the way. So the, the English here isn't perfect, but, um, it is telling
00:21:52.800 about white Lotus sect of all things for those of you that followed, uh, the Becoming Brigitte
00:21:58.680 series and things that we have spoken about, about this white Lotus idea. It's essentially
00:22:04.000 they're training fighters and that this has been, uh, declassified and that they have these
00:22:10.240 regional organizations, uh, these all Ukrainian organizations. And that's exactly what it sounds
00:22:17.080 like that they're training, uh, fighters that it's really dangerous. And my suspicion is that this is
00:22:23.240 happening right here in America. It would make sense that there is global communication if they
00:22:29.240 want to take somebody out. And it is also a fact, by the way, that Charlie was on a, um, a hit list.
00:22:36.880 I also was on the hit list. Tucker was on the hit list. And actually I forgot the name of the
00:22:41.660 individual that worked for Alex Jones who got killed, but he was similarly on a Ukrainian hit list.
00:22:46.340 It's something that I think should be explored a little bit further. And like I said, we're going
00:22:50.500 to go deeper on that topic on, um, we'll actually do that tomorrow and we'll bring in the aspects and
00:22:56.600 show you whether or not, you know, uncle Mikey could be Mike Mitchell. Could he be the detective,
00:23:02.500 but I'm just seeing these recurring themes of the military for whatever reason. I'm also seeing a
00:23:11.160 recurring theme of child abuse, uh, and a recurring theme of people who appear to have changed their
00:23:19.360 name and that are operating in the shadows and something is not right. Again, a theory that is
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00:25:26.040 What can I say, you guys? The world is very clearly changing, and it is changing fast. Okay?
00:25:35.260 Two years ago, the mere idea that you might share a perspective that Jews are controlling the media,
00:25:45.440 that would be considered anti-Semitic. You would be called a Jew hater. Fast forward to 2025,
00:25:52.320 five. And BB Netanyahu is now hosting an on-camera meeting with American social media influencers
00:26:02.620 to talk about how they are going to shape U.S. opinion. I honestly, with my eyes, I was going,
00:26:10.200 this can't be real. They're not even hiding it anymore. Right? It's like, first, it was a
00:26:15.200 conspiracy theory. Now it's like, here's what we're going to do. Okay? And what are we going to do?
00:26:19.740 How are we going to beat out all of these independent voices who are winning because
00:26:23.760 they're telling the truth? So Deborah Lee asked BB Netanyahu specifically about Charlie Crook's
00:26:29.320 assassination and the potential loss of evangelical support for the state of Israel because of it,
00:26:37.900 which, by the way, is going to be the consequence of this. It will be the consequence of this because
00:26:42.640 they lied after he died and it pissed me off. Okay? Take a listen to what Deborah asks.
00:26:50.660 So something I would like to raise, which was actually my first published paper,
00:26:54.220 was how you and the Likud party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in
00:26:59.500 America. And so specifically with Charlie Crook's assassination, who was a big mentor of mine,
00:27:04.380 who's my first mentor in the space, evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that
00:27:10.040 Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews. So with Charlie's assassination and
00:27:16.880 with the kind of trajectory that we see with like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, I guess I'm curious
00:27:21.920 about what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel? What's our backup
00:27:26.620 plan to be strong, like outside of the diaspora?
00:27:29.860 Okay. First off, I don't know why it's always me and Tucker Carlson. Why? Why is it always Tucker Carlson and
00:27:37.320 Cameronis Owens? But can it be anybody else? It's like, what do we have nothing to do with one another?
00:27:42.340 I've been on his show twice, twice on his independent show. I just love Tucker. I do. I'm a fan. I'm not gonna lie.
00:27:47.680 But I feel like they're starting to think we're the same person. Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens.
00:27:51.700 Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens over and over again. But listen to BB's response because prepare yourself.
00:27:57.740 What he is saying is that they are about to launch a psychological war on Americans. Take a listen to
00:28:04.380 what he says. Christian influencers. He said, we talked about the woke right. He said, I call it the
00:28:13.160 woke Reich. The woke Reich, because these people, you know, they're not any different from the woke
00:28:22.480 left. I mean, they're insane. They're the reason. But they're actually meeting on some of the things.
00:28:29.040 And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of our, the base of our support in the United
00:28:35.000 States. That is being challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with money. Money of NGOs,
00:28:42.080 vast money of governments, vaster. Okay. We have to fight back. How do we fight back? Our influencers.
00:28:51.760 I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that, that community. They're very
00:28:56.800 important. And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of battle. You know, the weapons change
00:29:03.600 over time. You can't fight today with swords. That doesn't work very well. Okay. And you can't find with,
00:29:09.760 fight with cavalry. That doesn't work very well. And you have these new things, you know, like drones,
00:29:15.320 things like that. I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the
00:29:21.080 battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones are the social media. And the most
00:29:26.600 important purchase that is going on right now is class. TikTok. TikTok. Number one. Number one.
00:29:37.560 And I hope it goes through because it's, it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the
00:29:43.080 other one that's most important? X. X. X. That's it. Very good. And, you know, so we have to talk
00:29:51.400 to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Now, if we can get those two things,
00:29:57.660 we get a lot. And I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now.
00:30:00.820 We have to fight the fight. Okay. To take, give direction to the Jewish people and give direction
00:30:08.640 to our non-Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish friends. Are we going to succeed with
00:30:14.080 everyone? No. Will there be a strong counterpart? Yes.
00:30:16.780 Okay. So like we're allowed, we're allowed to say Israel controls the media now. Okay. I think
00:30:23.340 we're at lights. That's just like on camera. Now there will be no dispute about this. The fact
00:30:28.380 that you have a foreign leader, it's incredible. You have a foreign leader who is sitting up there
00:30:32.300 saying that he wants his agents. He needs the, he needs the deal to go through, which by the way,
00:30:36.440 let's call out Donald Trump right now. Okay. All of the acting, we don't want China. We don't want
00:30:41.600 China to own TikTok. And I'm worried about your data. No, you wanted to hand it over to your
00:30:45.460 Zionist friends. Okay. It was all a mirage. Okay. It was all theater. Donald Trump has sold us out
00:30:50.780 to Israel once again. Okay. So he's saying, I want this deal to go through. And we know who's
00:30:55.960 a part of that deal. It's Larry Ellison, who has made, he's very clear about fact, he's an agent of
00:31:02.880 Israel. Andreessen Horowitz, the son of David Horowitz. David Horowitz, from which all of the
00:31:09.660 connections, PragerU, I can tell you the stories, PragerU, David Horowitz Foundation, and Ben
00:31:15.160 Shapiro, all of them related in their beginnings in Los Angeles. So he's basically saying,
00:31:22.420 we need to take over TikTok because what are they going to do what they've already done?
00:31:24.880 They're going to censor speech. The reason that they got on board, just like the ADL spokesperson
00:31:29.700 said when he was caught on the mic was like, we need to do something about TikTok. And now they're
00:31:34.040 doing the thing, right? They are going to take over TikTok and they're going to ban your speech.
00:31:37.680 It's happening right now. The second that that CEO said she was a proud Zionist, or maybe she wasn't
00:31:42.620 the CEO. But one of the executives there that they installed immediately after said she was a
00:31:47.140 proud Zionist and spent time in Israel. We saw instantly that our content was getting strikes.
00:31:54.240 You can't say anything bad right now about Israel on TikTok. And this is because it's what Bibi
00:31:59.360 Netanyahu has willed, right? They want to censor speech, which is something that Charlie was very
00:32:02.720 worried about. He was very worried about what Israel was doing to come inward on speech. And I have
00:32:06.860 those text messages with him. And yeah, so that's actually happening. We are going to be,
00:32:15.220 we're going to become subject to a psychological operation. This is what they do. You can see it
00:32:21.140 on X. There's all of these, like, I call them military bots. And they're just like sock puppets
00:32:26.260 who just say wonderful things about Israel all the time. You can see them in my comments. They just
00:32:29.420 like post the Israel flag over and over and over again. And that's what they want to subject Americans
00:32:33.800 to. And they think that that is going to, in the long run, bring people over to their side. It's
00:32:36.940 the exact opposite, obviously. Okay. It's so dumb to think. It's like, have you even gone through
00:32:42.420 basic parenting 101? You're going to tell these people that they are going to be forced to like
00:32:48.300 and support your country. They're most certainly not going to. Instead, they're going to see you
00:32:52.560 as what you are, which is problematic. No business as a foreign leader speaking publicly about how you're
00:32:58.120 planning to take over social media sites in America because opinion against your country has
00:33:04.760 rightfully shifted. Okay. Because opinion has rightfully shifted against your country on the
00:33:10.320 basis of your behavior. Right? Like Charlie said, on the basis of your behavior. Okay. You fall into
00:33:20.960 every stereotype. The stereotypes wouldn't exist if you didn't behave this way. That's the reality.
00:33:25.360 You're on camera. You don't, you have zero shame in saying this. You could have said anything there,
00:33:31.040 right? Like a person would say, wow, we want to get out the truth. We want to be better people.
00:33:36.540 We want to commit ourselves to not killing hundreds of thousands of children. That, that, and I think
00:33:41.920 that people will start to like us again. He's like, no, we just need to crush them. We need to crush
00:33:46.340 speech by controlling speech in America. And that's what their plan is. Look no further than this random
00:33:53.160 attack that Megyn Kelly is going through. Okay. For no reason at all. And I was, I hate to say
00:33:58.840 this, but I was laughing, reading Constantine Kissin's tweets and what they were saying to her
00:34:02.840 because I lived it. I lived, I lived what Megyn Kelly is going through. I lived what Charlie was
00:34:08.420 going through where suddenly you realize people that are pretending to be your friends, they're like,
00:34:12.620 I'm your friend. I care about you are actually like agents. And that's why I say they're Mr.
00:34:17.780 Smith from the matrix. And they're real close to ruining your life. You don't do what they want.
00:34:21.280 Okay. So for no reason at all, I'll tell you how this transpired. Megyn Kelly tweeted her episode
00:34:27.420 and said, listen to Charlie in his own words about what he was going through. And for whatever
00:34:32.340 reason, Florida Dab, which is one of these like Zayo bot accounts that constantly tweets in favor
00:34:38.280 of Israel, wrote this to Megyn. We can pull this up. He writes, if you can't separate yourself from
00:34:44.340 Candace Owens, many of us are going to separate ourselves from you. She didn't mention anything
00:34:49.660 about me. He says, we do not have to align with everyone that claims to be of the right when
00:34:55.200 their motives and history are as shady as hers. Megyn Kelly and I have no attachment. So the idea
00:35:00.300 that he's demanding that she make a statement against me is insane. She replies, she holds the
00:35:05.300 line. She says, look at this. No, I have no obligation to quote unquote separate myself from
00:35:10.160 anyone. I run my own media company and my own show. That show is where I express my own opinions and
00:35:15.160 I will decide what and what not to opine on. If you need me to condemn Candace or Tucker for their
00:35:21.760 opinions in order to listen to me, then I may not be for you. He's a close friend and she is under
00:35:27.380 enough pressure without gratuitous shots from me. My fight is with the left, not these two. Like
00:35:32.180 kudos to Megyn Kelly. What? And yes, she is friends with Tucker. They've been friends for a very long
00:35:36.440 time. And yeah, I'm kind of taking a lot of bullets right now. So I thank you, Megyn, for not just
00:35:41.300 taking a gratuitous swipe because I'm breathing over here. And but it's not enough. So then they
00:35:46.020 bring the other agent, Constantine Kissin, which, by the way, there's going to be a date where I just
00:35:50.000 release everybody's family genealogy. His is astonishing. But these are all agents of Israel.
00:35:54.440 Let's be very clear. Constantine Kissin then jumps in and says, here's the problem. He's a free speech
00:35:59.260 warrior, Constantine Kissin. The problem with this approach, which many on the right are taking,
00:36:03.320 is that this is exactly how the left allowed in its own extremists, or extremists, to fight,
00:36:08.860 to first flourish and then to become the face of the entire movement. If you agree with Candace
00:36:14.180 and Tucker, people will respect that. But to many of us, their behavior is so extreme and so deranged
00:36:20.400 that the idea that it can be simply ignored because your fight is quote unquote with the left doesn't
00:36:26.320 wash. You have always been a great principled, truth seeking journalist. So to many of your admirers
00:36:31.980 like me, the question might be, if you agree with them, fine. But if you don't, why isn't your fight
00:36:38.460 with them? This is almost verbatim. It's like scary to me because I'm like, are they? This is
00:36:43.280 like military training. Almost verbatim, a text message that I received from Marissa Streit
00:36:49.580 when I like retweeted Max Blumenthal, I think once when he said something that I totally agreed
00:36:54.240 with. And then like all of the agents like Dave Rubin, all of them are like, don't you see what
00:36:57.740 you did? And they make it that you're going crazy, but they kind of pretend to be your friend.
00:37:00.860 And you're like, what did I do wrong? Like I just said, genocide is always wrong. I just
00:37:03.940 retweeted Max Blumenthal, something he said that was sensible. And they come in and they're like,
00:37:07.020 I understand what you're doing. I'm your friend. But I worry that other people are going to see
00:37:12.800 what you're doing and not understand. And it just, you know, I want you to be okay because
00:37:17.060 we're just wondering, like, we all agree that that's bad, right? So why don't you just say
00:37:21.100 what I'm telling you to say, Meg, or you're going to get it. We're going to ruin your effing life.
00:37:26.600 That's the subtext, Meg. That is the subtext, Megan. I can promise you that. I lived it. I lived it.
00:37:33.140 There's no halfway with these people. I'm telling you, there's no halfway. She didn't do anything.
00:37:37.360 She shared her episode and said, if you want to hear Charlie Kirk in his own words, here it is.
00:37:40.380 That is literally what they are responding to. And now they're going to pretend to be her friend.
00:37:44.380 So she responds to him and she says, the more one insists that I say what one demands me to,
00:37:50.200 the more committed I get in my refusal. This was Charlie. This was Charlie. He was like, I'm done.
00:37:54.020 I'm just done. I'm digging my heels in because they know what this is. Okay. Megan is an adult.
00:37:59.120 She's also quite brilliant. She's not going to fall for this. Should I call it babble?
00:38:04.020 All right. Constance and kissing. And you're sitting here trying to, oh, I just love you
00:38:08.620 so much. It's like trying to manipulate a toddler. She's not stupid. And he says, I demand nothing of
00:38:13.000 you. And in coming from a position of great respect, I'm simply asking why it is that you
00:38:16.860 don't believe that lies told by prominent people on the right shouldn't be challenged in the way
00:38:21.480 that we all challenge lies told by people on the left. And she said, your response proves the opposite
00:38:26.680 of what it purports to. She sees right through him. Of course she does because she's not a child.
00:38:32.360 Okay. This is how the agents work. They pretend to be your friend. And I'm telling you,
00:38:37.600 if she doesn't buck, because that's what they want, they will there. We will whip you and you
00:38:41.160 will buck. And you will buck by making a strong statement against Candace Onus Tucker Carlson
00:38:45.240 when we demand it. Then they will send the next layer, which is a full-blown press attack.
00:38:50.940 The press that they do not control, by the way, they do not control the press. That's
00:38:54.660 anti-Semitic. I want to be very clear. Don't control it, but they will control it when they
00:38:58.460 come after her. If she doesn't do what they say, watch that space, you guys. Watch that
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00:41:24.760 your mind? I always feel like I get in trouble in the comment section for some reason. Oh, I wanted to
00:41:30.000 read this email that came in because Turning Point had the USU event last night. They went back to Utah and
00:41:36.520 returned, made a big splash about that. And this person attended and wrote this to me. It reads,
00:41:41.360 Dear Candice, tonight, which is September 30th, 2025, several friends and myself attended
00:41:47.660 the TPUSA event at Utah State University. There was full agreement that all were disappointed.
00:41:54.540 The event was scripted. The allowance of open dialogue was absent and the entire presentation
00:41:58.780 lacked authenticity. I'm happy to answer any questions about specifics, but if this is how TPUSA
00:42:03.840 is going to proceed, then it will not be successful. I fully agree with you that if this
00:42:10.980 is the vibe, the vibe that we're getting and catching right now, they're not going to be
00:42:14.460 successful. You're never smarter than your audience. I say it over and over again. Everyone
00:42:19.240 perceives that something is not right and we are not getting the truth and they are too mum.
00:42:23.400 And I definitely know, I got received other emails of people saying that they felt that it was very
00:42:30.220 much controlled, but I feel like it gets to a more broader point, which is that nothing that is fake
00:42:37.220 will survive in the long run. Okay. And there's a lot of fakeness and gayness that's happening right
00:42:41.000 now. And yesterday, it's why I just went ahead and took a shot at the beast. I will not allow them
00:42:46.560 to turn Turning Point USA into a company that is chilling for Israel. I have people that are telling
00:42:51.660 me that they're handing out TPUSA faith packets. And like Israel is mentioned eight times, someone
00:42:56.420 submitted it to me. I read it. It's ridiculous. And I know who's behind that. I do. And so I don't
00:43:02.840 know where they're going if they're trying to sink Charlie's company. It worked. Turning Point worked
00:43:08.980 because Charlie was authentic. Okay. Whether you agree with him or not, I can tell you, Charlie
00:43:13.300 authentically, when we started out, loved Israel for the same reasons we went to Israel together.
00:43:18.800 He authentically believed and loved Israel. And then he authentically was seeing what their tactics
00:43:28.060 were, how they were trying to control speech, and he perceived them to be problematic. And it was their
00:43:32.660 behavior that turned him against them. And the fact that they are just continuing that behavior now and
00:43:39.180 just trying to pretend that the last part didn't happen, it sickens me. It won't survive unless there is
00:43:44.200 more truth and we should absolutely demand it. There is a note here for my producer from Erica
00:43:51.220 Mindel, who is an American Israeli Jewish former IDF soldier currently serving as the, oh, that's her
00:43:57.580 name, right? Erica Mindel. She is the public policy manager of hate speech. And she's been at TikTok
00:44:02.640 since July of this year. And she's like, yeah, whatever, I'm an IDF soldier. And it's now war. And we own
00:44:07.840 this space. So of course, the deal is going to go through if they're already putting IDF soldiers
00:44:11.840 in control of monitoring our speech, which means we only have to get louder. And maybe we'll just
00:44:17.080 choose a different platform in general if this is the direction that they want to go in. Basil
00:44:21.160 Parhas writes, hey, Candace, would you want to debate the more prominent commentators like Ben
00:44:25.580 Shapiro, Brandon Tatum, and PBD? On the topics of Israel, Mossad, and Palestine, they all have hinted
00:44:31.420 and danced around calling you anti-Jewish, genetically speaking, and excessive in their videos. I would
00:44:36.940 debate PBD. I would debate Ben Shapiro. I wouldn't debate Brandon Tatum because I love Brandon
00:44:41.340 Tatum like a brother. And nobody wins in that scenario. I've just known him. Like, I know
00:44:46.820 Brandon. I came up with him and Charlie. And I just know him as like a human being. And there are
00:44:52.140 some things that to me are just like are bigger than politics. And so any conversation or debate
00:44:55.740 that I'm going to have with Brandon will be treated in the same way, like the debates that I would have
00:45:00.720 had with Charlie. You know, Charlie and I never threw each other under any buses publicly. And when we
00:45:06.760 did disagree, we had those disagreements privately. And so the I would say the same about Brandon
00:45:11.600 Tatum. And I hope that clarifies. A lot of people were asking me about Brandon. He has been there for
00:45:17.040 me. He's been there for my family. He's just I see him as a human and not a political opponent. So
00:45:24.000 that's my honest truth there. Rachel Day says, is it me or is it strange that not a single security
00:45:30.160 guard pulled a gun once shots rang out? I am praying for you, Candace, and I am grateful for
00:45:34.580 this reporting. We cannot claim ignorance here. Virtual hug from a homeschool mom just started the
00:45:39.100 homeschooling thing this week. They're adorable. Yes, I think it is strange, actually. I thought
00:45:44.480 about that after the fact and they seem to know that not more was coming. Now, you could also,
00:45:49.500 if we're being charitable, say that you're just you're just so overwhelmed and you jump and you just
00:45:56.620 are trying to save Charlie. But you would think that one person would have been guarding,
00:45:59.680 holding a gun, especially if you're trained to do these things and the amount of money that they
00:46:04.500 were making off of Charlie because Charlie ended up buying. Turning Point USA ended up taking on
00:46:08.560 that security firm. Yeah, you're kind of not the person that's allowed to freak out in those
00:46:13.480 situations. And a lot of mistakes were made and a lot of things have not been explained.
00:46:18.080 The Menagerie by Drea Lee writes, one of Tyler Robinson's lawyers, Michael Burt, previously
00:46:24.520 represented Richard Ramirez, a.k.a. the Night Stalker. Ramirez was in the same jail as Sean Penn
00:46:31.160 in 1987, who was serving 33 days. How do you feel about Tyler's legal team? I've not explored that.
00:46:36.700 I have been so hyper-focused. People, I know you guys have been like, have you seen this? Have you
00:46:41.020 seen that? I want to solve who did this, right? And I want to do it in a way that makes sense to me.
00:46:45.820 I'm a timeline person. I'm very good at gathering data and intel, vetting that information that I'm
00:46:51.440 getting and sharing it with the public in a way that they can digest. There's a lot of different
00:46:56.200 rabbit holes that should be chased. That's definitely one of them. But my main focus right
00:47:01.060 now is trying to figure out who else was involved on that day. Who is the lady that was in that photo?
00:47:06.680 Marzi writes, this just in the FBI just cut ties with the ADL after Turning Point USA criticism.
00:47:14.400 They share a building, just FBI and ADL share a building. They're one in the same.
00:47:17.600 I hope you guys know that. They share a building, I think, in Connecticut.
00:47:22.300 Also, Israel is taking over ExpressVPN and other VPN websites. I always had a conspiracy about that.
00:47:27.840 I used to read ads for them, ExpressVPN, when I was working for Daily Wire. And in back of my mind,
00:47:33.040 I was like, it would make sense that they would train us to actually filter. There's so much data.
00:47:38.860 So they're like, actually, why don't you pretend that this VPN hides things and so that we know
00:47:43.640 exactly where to look. And once I found that it was started by an Israeli billionaire, I was like,
00:47:48.200 yeah, no, that's going to be a spying thing. That's how I felt, at least. I was like, they're
00:47:51.800 just going to see what you want to hide and go straight there. So you're basically taking on the
00:47:57.880 process of filtering for them. That's my conspiracy theory, one of many that I have, as you guys know,
00:48:03.520 because you listen to the show. Lily writes, first, they made a false statement about Candace not
00:48:07.640 being friends with Charlie. They pushed through their minions in the media. Now they planted a fake
00:48:12.400 letter in the same New York Post and their minions. Candace must be up to something.
00:48:16.860 Yeah, I know who had access to Charlie's laptop. And I have questions about that. But I'm going to
00:48:22.180 wait for the financial report to come out, which I'm not handling. And I got question marks about a
00:48:26.360 couple of people over at Turning Point USA. And yeah, I think we should definitely be speaking about
00:48:33.260 the shady pastors. I hope this is the year of the shady pastor after Operation Mocking Pastor,
00:48:38.540 learning why they can say we don't take money from Israel, but they take money from an agent
00:48:42.340 of Israel or an organization like the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews, which if you go
00:48:48.900 to their website, it's basically like, hey, Christians, here's what you can do for Jews.
00:48:53.300 There's nothing that's spoken about what Christians are going through. And they flood money into that,
00:48:58.400 and they get you to say that it's like a fellowship program. But then they have you like
00:49:03.740 gathering pastors and paying off people. I mean, it's an ugly business. And I think it's about to all
00:49:10.000 get exposed. I think it was a bad idea to kill Charlie Kirk. That's what I think. I think the
00:49:16.120 devil overplayed his hand because that's what the devil does. The devil is arrogant. The devil has
00:49:19.660 no friends. I remind people that the devil is an orphan. And what I mean by that is if you pledge
00:49:26.140 allegiance to the devil, just so you know, he will turn on you too. Okay? You're only as useful to
00:49:32.260 him as you are an idiot to him. If you're willing to do his bidding, he will play ball. And as soon as
00:49:37.760 you are not, he does not care about you. You mean nothing to him. You are dealing with a true
00:49:42.220 psychopathic individual who cares about nothing more than their own selfish goals. That's what I
00:49:50.220 believe. Anyways, I want to again remind you guys that we have new merch. Finally, after so many
00:49:56.760 messages, we made it happen. We should have done it sooner, obviously. We don't know, no, but we know.
00:50:03.900 And soon, ladies and gentlemen, we will know, no. We will know, no. I'm a Charlie Kirk story.
00:50:10.920 You can head to CandaceOwens.com if you'd like to buy merch. That's how you can support the show.
00:50:14.900 We actually are not funded by any outside groups. We are taking influence from nobody other than the
00:50:20.420 people that write to our tips box. We are being heavily influenced by them. I will say that.
00:50:24.920 And I remind you, please, please, we love you all, but only if you have a tip that can help us
00:50:31.180 crack this mystery. I do think that we're going to get into a Russian and Ukrainian angle here for
00:50:35.980 some reason, some way, somehow. We'll see. See you guys tomorrow.