Candace Owens - BREAKING： TPUSA Throws Down The Gauntlet! Publicly Invites Me To Ask Questions.

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, it's happening. It's happening. Everybody stay calm. After yesterday's episode where we went kind of for the juggler with Turning Point USA, because really, I think everybody in the entire world has had enough with the non-response, trying to move on, trying to gaslight us on answering basic details. So we just went for it.

00:00:20.240 And guess what? Turning Point has moved to formally respond to all the things that we have said. And after a very long diatribe in which they wildly misrepresent the public and global investigation of Charlie Kirk's assassination, they at long last issued a public invitation or a challenge. I'm not sure what it is, but I accept.

00:00:42.400 Okay. Quite literally, all we have ever asked for were sensible answers to our basic questions about what transpired on September 10th. And it looks like we're going to get those things. So major, major win. I am excited. Also, later on in the show, what I have for you is The Game, whose rapper is releasing a song that is entitled The Assassination of Candace Owens.

00:01:09.160 And I have more questions. And I have more questions. I've got questions. Am I allowed to have questions? Welcome back to Candace.

00:01:29.840 What can I say other than we went max? Pause, reflect. I'm proud of everybody. I'm proud of the world.

00:01:37.300 Every single person who was in my inbox giving me tips, the people inside of Turning Point USA who were leaking, the donors that wrote public letters, the donors that didn't write public letters, but sent us messages encouraging us to keep going.

00:01:50.540 Today feels like a win because guess what? It forced Turning Point USA to finally respond. And that was the entire point.

00:01:58.100 OK, that has been the point of refusing to let up even one second in this investigation.

00:02:04.940 They wanted to simply be able to eulogize Charlie Kirk at a big memorial event, and then they wanted us to simply move on.

00:02:12.020 And we didn't do that. OK, so, yeah, we should celebrate the fact that we kept up the pressure, that we insisted that we have answers,

00:02:20.480 that even in this tremendous culture of ADHD and everyone's constantly being distracted by their iPhones, that we kept the focus.

00:02:29.100 OK, Turning Point is going going to commit to a live streamed event where they are apparently going to answer all of these lingering questions.

00:02:38.380 And I would say these were pretty basic questions right out of the gate.

00:02:42.980 And why they didn't do that right out of the gate, nobody knows.

00:02:47.100 We can hear them, their explanation for why they didn't in just a moment, because they sent Blake Neff out.

00:02:54.820 Blake Neff, by the way, is the producer of The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:57.720 Now he is kind of the rotating talent of The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:03:00.520 He was already featured with Charlie on the show, so that's not unusual.

00:03:03.620 But I think we probably anticipated that Andrew Colvett, who is the TPUSA spokesperson,

00:03:08.960 would have been the person to deliver this message.

00:03:11.300 Maybe in theory, that should have been his job.

00:03:13.400 Maybe he's traveling.

00:03:14.720 The point is, we got Blake Neff.

00:03:16.460 And I want to say, just to reiterate, that I have always maintained that whatever is going on at Turning Point USA,

00:03:22.340 I have not felt that Blake Neff is one of the bad guys, OK?

00:03:26.220 I just have never gotten that particular vibe from him.

00:03:29.100 I believe that when he speaks, he believes that he is telling the truth.

00:03:32.400 And maybe that's why they want him in front of the camera.

00:03:34.140 He's been the only person that has been responding in a way that feels even remotely authentic

00:03:39.180 when he defends the actions of Mikey McCoy on that day.

00:03:43.260 I sense that he believes that he is telling the truth.

00:03:45.560 Anyways, let's listen to what Blake Neff had to say in its entirety.

00:03:50.540 It's not going to feel organic, obviously.

00:03:52.440 He's reading from a piece of paper.

00:03:53.760 This has probably been reviewed 12 times by many different lawyers,

00:03:57.520 because that's how it works at big organizations and companies.

00:04:01.340 But I don't fault him.

00:04:03.080 That will pause at certain moments, because I do want to be able to respond throughout it.

00:04:07.380 It's a bit long, but I want to give them my platform, as I always have made that offer to.

00:04:13.140 So here is Blake Neff.

00:04:15.840 Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people

00:04:21.800 at Turning Point USA, people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show.

00:04:27.800 She has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most

00:04:31.740 dedicated employees.

00:04:33.880 Yes.

00:04:34.520 She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered,

00:04:39.300 was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie.

00:04:44.800 She has suggested Michael is not his real name.

00:04:47.400 It is, I have seen his birth certificate myself.

00:04:50.640 She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point,

00:04:54.320 helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way.

00:04:59.240 She doesn't work on campus events.

00:05:01.800 Okay, so first and foremost, I actually never said that she helped plan the event.

00:05:06.080 I said it was suspicious that Mikey McCoy's wife, that we never found out who did plan the event.

00:05:11.140 That was one of the answers that we wanted to know.

00:05:13.980 And I said that she works in events, still was not clear on what happened.

00:05:18.020 Regarding Mikey McCoy, I think the entire world believes that his actions are suspicious

00:05:21.940 because we have eyes, and you don't get to wiggle out of that by pretending that us playing the words

00:05:29.080 of his own father, Rob McCoy, who I think is highly suspicious in all of this.

00:05:33.520 He has a suspicious background.

00:05:35.260 We played his own words as he tried to sanitize someone who spent time in prison for being a sexual

00:05:42.460 deviant, right, for trying to take photos of young girls.

00:05:47.240 I don't think he's a good guy, and you're not going to make us forget those things because you

00:05:51.840 are trying to pretend that Mikey's actions were totally normal that day.

00:05:55.400 They weren't.

00:05:56.260 That's why I didn't make the public feel that way, okay?

00:05:59.700 I may have voiced how they felt, which everyone else is refusing to do,

00:06:03.920 but I do believe that Mikey McCoy should have to answer for who he had on the phone

00:06:12.560 right when the shot went off.

00:06:14.420 So, yeah, his father, his own father, is the one that spoke about Charlie's Notebooks

00:06:20.760 and spoke about how Mikey McCoy was talented, and it was Mikey McCoy who then jumped on Liberty

00:06:25.680 University's stage for an event that was scheduled for Charlie Kirk.

00:06:29.620 So, there you go.

00:06:30.980 That's our perspective, and I'm going to stand by it.

00:06:34.740 Let's keep it rolling.

00:06:36.600 Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual, and its details suggested a,

00:06:42.340 quote, inside job.

00:06:45.640 It was unusual.

00:06:47.100 That's a fact, and you can quote me on that because I worked for Turning Point USA, and

00:06:52.060 I went on every tour, every tour since 2019, and typically those events are decided at least

00:07:02.680 the semester before.

00:07:04.020 This came together very quickly.

00:07:05.360 It is unusual, and I don't know why you think that you are going to be able to disprove that

00:07:11.560 notion when I have the emails to support that claim.

00:07:14.320 Let's keep it rolling.

00:07:15.740 She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country,

00:07:19.720 and that Turning Point has lied about this happening.

00:07:22.700 Definitely never said Turning Point lied because you never responded.

00:07:28.760 So, that doesn't actually make any sense, and this is why it's not good to have lawyers

00:07:33.580 write things out because sometimes they're not so detail-oriented.

00:07:36.940 What we did was we showed at first that when I plotted the strange Egyptian jets that they

00:07:42.660 were following Charlie, and that was a concern because I wondered if they were tracking Charlie.

00:07:47.600 We then obviously realized that they were tracking TPUSA faith events, and that many more times

00:07:54.920 they were following and perhaps tracking Erica.

00:07:58.660 You should be concerned about that.

00:08:01.440 We find it odd that rather than being concerned or trying to get answers to why a foreign military

00:08:07.860 jet would be on the ground during a time when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you're upset with

00:08:14.220 us for asking questions about these jets.

00:08:17.600 Let's keep rolling.

00:08:19.480 She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died.

00:08:25.920 Never happened.

00:08:27.760 That is not a quotation.

00:08:29.560 That is just them saying that.

00:08:31.860 So, let's keep rolling.

00:08:33.660 She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure

00:08:40.240 that he died.

00:08:41.560 When you say suggested, it means that they are interpreting my words.

00:08:45.520 What I said is another fact.

00:08:47.600 They did not issue him first aid.

00:08:50.140 When he fell down, there was nobody who pulled out any gauze and tried to stop the bleeding,

00:08:55.780 and they've admitted to that.

00:08:57.460 In a sit-down with Sean Ryan, Brian Harpole said it was because of the severity of the injury.

00:09:03.100 I'm sorry, again, that we noticed something that stood out as unusual given the expertise and the amount of money that he was paying that supposed to be an elite team.

00:09:16.400 Let's keep rolling.

00:09:17.480 She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera.

00:09:24.840 She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns.

00:09:31.580 Okay, so, yes, the SD card thing is unbelievably suspicious.

00:09:37.440 It's not something that you would do.

00:09:39.100 Neither would you just run up onto a grassy knoll and record yourself.

00:09:42.560 Again, these are unusual actions, and rather than trying to pretend like it's normal to record a selfie video of yourself

00:09:49.860 and to prematurely announce that somebody is dead, maybe you should answer why all of that took place

00:09:56.240 because you guys told lies about, verifiable lies, about why that took place.

00:10:01.000 Because don't forget, Andrew Colvett sat next to you and said it was because people were stealing.

00:10:05.700 People were stealing.

00:10:06.640 You probably would want to grab the very expensive cameras and not the SD card for an event that was being live-streamed.

00:10:14.760 Regarding Tyler Boyer, I'm so glad we're going to do this live-streamed

00:10:18.000 because I'm happy to present to you the exact name of the intern, and I didn't say that he abused him.

00:10:23.300 I didn't say it was not consensual.

00:10:24.760 I said that he likes younger boys.

00:10:27.120 I don't mean, like, younger as in they're not of the legal age.

00:10:30.580 I'm just saying they're a lot younger than him.

00:10:33.160 And, yeah, I can give you the exact name of the intern that he hooked up with.

00:10:37.620 That person was not at Turning Point USA, but I can also give you more than that,

00:10:42.780 as well as people that are currently working for Turning Point USA

00:10:46.420 who said that Tyler Boyer and these are young men tried to hook up with them after some events.

00:10:53.700 So I'm glad we're going to live-stream that.

00:10:55.960 Keep going.

00:10:57.220 She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors like theologian Frank Turek,

00:11:02.200 who we'll have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy,

00:11:05.020 are part of a military, quote, infiltration of Turning Point,

00:11:09.420 either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are.

00:11:13.120 Yeah, so I do believe the Calvary Chapel, their history with Chuck Smith,

00:11:18.380 the evidence that it was a militant CIA effort to infiltrate the Christian faith

00:11:23.740 and to tie the Christian faith to the political ideology of Zionism.

00:11:28.780 I think there's a lot of evidence for that, and I'm happy to discuss that in a broader debate.

00:11:33.580 I do think that things at Turning Point USA became a bit problematic

00:11:38.120 when you started to, I would say, almost hijack genuine Christian faith

00:11:43.260 and sort of roll it into this idea that you must support Israel in order to be a Christian.

00:11:49.280 That's kind of floating into more opinion,

00:11:51.960 but I think well backed by the facts of the founding of the Calvary Chapel Church

00:11:56.980 during the decade of the 60s,

00:11:59.940 where the CIA was really just spiking the ball on Christians in general.

00:12:03.940 Let's keep going.

00:12:04.580 Even if not everyone has been named specifically, though,

00:12:08.320 Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death

00:12:13.200 by repeatedly saying he was, quote,

00:12:16.120 betrayed by, quote, everyone.

00:12:20.340 Sorry, that was a dream that I had,

00:12:22.220 and it is also a realization that it has been months.

00:12:27.580 People at Turning Point USA are in possession of text messages

00:12:30.340 the day before Charlie died in which he wrote out to you,

00:12:34.000 and not just to people that work at Turning Point USA,

00:12:36.440 but also security guards,

00:12:37.820 that he thought that they were going to kill him tomorrow explicitly.

00:12:43.220 I find it highly unusual that you wouldn't share that information at all,

00:12:48.620 or that you would sit by and be quiet,

00:12:52.620 or at some points attack people that are trying to explore who they is,

00:12:59.180 because I don't think anybody believes that Charlie thought

00:13:02.040 that a trans furry kid who had never been on UVU's campus

00:13:07.560 was going to kill him tomorrow.

00:13:09.660 And your silence during moments when people are lying,

00:13:13.560 like Josh Hammer,

00:13:15.020 when he said,

00:13:15.920 hey, this never happened,

00:13:17.880 Charlie never blinked on Israel,

00:13:19.960 makes you all look very, very suspicious.

00:13:23.820 Lies are only necessary, okay,

00:13:26.240 when you are covering something.

00:13:29.240 And if you are covering the truth,

00:13:31.980 you are betraying Charlie.

00:13:34.100 So I stand by that.

00:13:34.960 Let's keep going.

00:13:36.220 She has said Charlie's murder,

00:13:37.540 quote,

00:13:37.980 had to be approved by Charlie's friends,

00:13:40.440 and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too,

00:13:43.680 for, quote,

00:13:44.740 knowing the truth.

00:13:46.980 So you notice that's a little,

00:13:48.460 that's like a Snopes tactic.

00:13:49.860 When he says the quote,

00:13:50.880 it's actually not a full quotation.

00:13:52.960 I never said that.

00:13:54.320 It's obviously in the context that he put it in,

00:13:57.200 that Charlie's friends,

00:13:58.620 quote,

00:13:59.040 had to know he was going to be murdered.

00:14:01.240 Did I say the sentence,

00:14:02.780 had to know he was going to be murdered?

00:14:04.240 Perhaps.

00:14:04.720 But we're going to need to hear the full sentence

00:14:06.340 because you're trying to context it in a way that is just,

00:14:09.340 just untrue.

00:14:10.960 And I don't think it's necessary.

00:14:12.220 If you're willing to have a conversation

00:14:13.640 that you need to lie about anything that I've said,

00:14:16.140 people have watched the show.

00:14:17.740 They know exactly what I've said.

00:14:19.180 And I tend to stand by what I've said.

00:14:21.060 And I do stand by everything that I've said.

00:14:23.020 Keep going.

00:14:24.760 She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud

00:14:27.880 at Turning Point,

00:14:28.900 adding up into the millions of dollars,

00:14:30.660 which again,

00:14:31.820 is not true.

00:14:33.160 Charlie made sure the organization was audited

00:14:35.260 by a third party every year.

00:14:37.040 He personally reviewed and he signed off

00:14:39.340 on every expense report

00:14:40.760 and literally every single bill

00:14:43.660 paid by the organization

00:14:44.780 down to a single United States dollar.

00:14:47.660 We have never missed a 990 deadline.

00:14:52.060 OK, so immorality,

00:14:55.600 like financial impropriety

00:14:57.120 does not necessarily mean

00:14:58.580 that you committed true financial fraud.

00:15:02.020 There's definitely financial impropriety

00:15:03.620 at the company.

00:15:04.380 I would say that if you are representing yourself

00:15:06.300 as a charity

00:15:07.040 and what you're actually doing

00:15:08.700 is evaporating millions of dollars

00:15:10.900 into various LLCs

00:15:13.000 that have your name on it,

00:15:15.080 that would be financial impropriety, right?

00:15:16.980 Like you could say I'm a contractor

00:15:18.780 on this LLC and that LLC.

00:15:20.600 I'm not doing anything illegal,

00:15:22.640 but it's it's inappropriate.

00:15:24.320 It's improper.

00:15:26.000 Most people are not able to read those forms

00:15:28.760 and won't understand what's happening

00:15:30.340 to the 80 million dollars.

00:15:31.800 And I think that those questions

00:15:33.000 are, of course, valid

00:15:34.780 and that you guys should have

00:15:36.760 no issues answering them.

00:15:38.600 I am struck by the fact

00:15:40.140 that you're still trying to conflate

00:15:42.080 an annual audit

00:15:43.980 with Charlie's explicit request

00:15:46.520 to put together a Doge department

00:15:49.180 seven days before he died.

00:15:50.860 These are not the same.

00:15:51.940 You know, they're not the same.

00:15:52.660 I know they're not the same.

00:15:53.440 OK, everyone knows that Doge

00:15:54.660 is not the same

00:15:55.320 as the audits that are required

00:15:57.820 for 501c3s,

00:15:59.300 conducting an internal audit.

00:16:00.900 And having you still misrepresent that

00:16:03.980 makes us uncomfortable.

00:16:06.760 Address the Doge.

00:16:08.780 That's got nothing to do with anything

00:16:10.860 other than Charlie, right?

00:16:13.180 Charlie felt that this needed to happen.

00:16:15.560 And inside sources at your own company

00:16:17.760 say it was because he didn't know

00:16:18.780 where the money was coming from

00:16:20.180 or how quickly and where exactly

00:16:22.680 the money was being evaporated to.

00:16:24.640 That passes the vibe check

00:16:27.080 in terms of what Doge is about,

00:16:29.200 because, of course,

00:16:30.860 Charlie could not have been

00:16:32.960 establishing Doge for the last five years

00:16:34.660 because that's a very new concept

00:16:36.220 as of 2025.

00:16:37.960 Something that Trump put into place

00:16:41.040 with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, right?

00:16:44.020 So, yeah, you're still being dishonest,

00:16:46.980 but carry on.

00:16:48.800 Candace has made other stranger allegations

00:16:50.760 involving French paratroopers

00:16:52.500 in maroon shirts,

00:16:54.120 Egyptian Air Force planes

00:16:55.240 flying out of Provo, Utah,

00:16:56.680 and potential underground assassins

00:16:59.100 traveling through unseen tunnels.

00:17:01.040 At one point in early November,

00:17:03.420 she started wildly throwing suspicion

00:17:05.380 on members of Utah Valley's soccer team

00:17:08.720 for wearing hoodies.

00:17:10.700 I could go on.

00:17:11.760 There is always something new coming up,

00:17:13.680 and none of it ever pans out

00:17:15.600 because, from the start,

00:17:18.000 there has been nothing there.

00:17:20.780 Okay, so no matter how many times

00:17:22.280 you keep pretending there's nothing there

00:17:23.460 at the Egyptian planes,

00:17:24.660 the whole internet understands

00:17:25.760 that there's something there

00:17:26.440 at the Egyptian planes,

00:17:27.320 especially because you keep pretending

00:17:28.940 like it's not weird.

00:17:30.120 Like, you're just like,

00:17:30.620 it's not weird.

00:17:31.140 No, this is normal.

00:17:31.780 It's totally fine

00:17:32.400 that these Egyptian planes,

00:17:33.920 and also, by the way,

00:17:35.500 today it broke that,

00:17:37.540 like, the Saudi king

00:17:40.000 was on this plane

00:17:41.080 at some point, 2023.

00:17:42.520 We'll get to that later.

00:17:43.480 And you guys are like,

00:17:44.160 this is totally normal.

00:17:45.260 This is just what happens at UVU.

00:17:47.000 People just lay over into Wilmington,

00:17:48.720 do things.

00:17:49.340 It's just so foolish.

00:17:51.260 You guys have got to stop

00:17:52.700 the gaslighting

00:17:53.380 if you think your organization

00:17:54.400 is going to survive.

00:17:57.000 I mean, some of that stuff

00:17:57.740 is just untrue.

00:17:59.120 Saying that I went after somebody

00:18:00.660 for wearing a green hoodie

00:18:01.740 is not true at all.

00:18:03.100 We never even covered

00:18:03.980 the green hoodie people

00:18:05.000 on this show.

00:18:06.780 I shared a picture

00:18:08.140 when somebody asked

00:18:09.220 for a picture

00:18:10.340 because they were trying

00:18:11.660 to investigate

00:18:12.400 and identify everyone

00:18:13.520 who was there,

00:18:14.000 which is valid.

00:18:14.700 And the person wearing

00:18:15.680 the green hoodie

00:18:16.180 was not even upset about it.

00:18:17.160 He responded.

00:18:18.160 So that has nothing

00:18:19.360 to do with me whatsoever.

00:18:20.800 And by the way,

00:18:22.280 it would probably feel better

00:18:23.620 to the public

00:18:24.180 if you guys were the ones

00:18:26.180 that were asking questions

00:18:27.340 about who was there

00:18:27.920 on that day.

00:18:28.660 I completely stand by

00:18:30.220 what I said

00:18:31.100 about the people

00:18:32.020 that are wearing maroon shirts.

00:18:33.180 They are going to,

00:18:34.500 I will guarantee you,

00:18:35.720 represent a military unit somewhere.

00:18:38.100 I'm very close

00:18:39.080 to figuring out

00:18:39.540 exactly which military unit

00:18:40.980 that was.

00:18:42.060 Again,

00:18:42.820 trying to gaslight us

00:18:44.020 and pretend we're

00:18:44.440 conspiracy theorists

00:18:45.320 or that's stupid.

00:18:47.620 Not a good long-term strategy

00:18:49.160 for Turning Point USA.

00:18:50.000 Carry on.

00:18:51.460 The attacks and allegations

00:18:52.960 from Candace

00:18:53.620 are either lies

00:18:54.680 or they are innuendos

00:18:56.440 thrown around

00:18:57.220 with a total reckless

00:18:59.220 disregard for the truth

00:19:00.460 so that Candace

00:19:01.460 can manipulate

00:19:02.360 and string along

00:19:03.340 an audience of people

00:19:04.360 who don't realize

00:19:05.740 they are being played.

00:19:07.360 Instead of being able

00:19:08.220 to grieve properly

00:19:09.260 after one of the most

00:19:10.340 heinous murders

00:19:11.180 in American history,

00:19:12.620 a murder many of us

00:19:13.680 had to witness,

00:19:15.360 my friends have had

00:19:16.480 to endure harassment

00:19:17.660 from people who

00:19:18.720 have gotten whipped up

00:19:20.320 by what Candace is saying.

00:19:22.140 In fact,

00:19:22.920 I would say

00:19:23.600 we have suffered

00:19:24.360 more harassment

00:19:25.480 from these people

00:19:26.340 than we have

00:19:27.140 from Antifa supporters

00:19:28.560 who overtly celebrate

00:19:30.360 Charlie's murder.

00:19:31.660 And just like a lot

00:19:32.520 of those Antifa members,

00:19:34.000 many of these people

00:19:35.060 take this delight

00:19:36.680 in how gross

00:19:37.500 and unpleasant

00:19:38.180 they can be.

00:19:39.660 What our friends

00:19:40.260 have had to endure

00:19:41.080 is not funny

00:19:42.240 and it's not insignificant.

00:19:44.300 It is evil.

00:19:45.460 I have seen it.

00:19:46.220 Okay, conflating people

00:19:49.380 that are trying

00:19:50.340 to figure out

00:19:50.680 who murder Charlie Kirk

00:19:51.340 with like Antifa

00:19:51.960 is actually objectively funny.

00:19:53.820 That's an unforced error.

00:19:55.080 They should not have

00:19:55.520 included that in the statement.

00:19:56.780 Somebody in that room

00:19:57.480 was like,

00:19:57.780 should we say that?

00:19:58.380 Should we not?

00:19:58.980 And somebody said,

00:19:59.680 no, we shouldn't say that.

00:20:00.800 And then you,

00:20:01.560 somebody else in the room

00:20:02.360 said, no, we should.

00:20:03.220 Let's keep it in.

00:20:03.900 That second person was wrong.

00:20:05.360 That should have been struck

00:20:06.000 from the statement.

00:20:06.640 It's very silly, okay?

00:20:07.680 It's very silly

00:20:08.500 to attack your own audiences

00:20:09.900 who are concerned

00:20:10.720 and your own donors

00:20:11.360 who are concerned

00:20:11.840 and say, you're Antifa

00:20:13.200 if you don't accept

00:20:14.140 this absurd Fed Slop.

00:20:15.480 If you're not going

00:20:15.840 to drink the Fed Slop,

00:20:17.080 then you are Antifa.

00:20:18.300 Just not a good idea whatsoever, okay?

00:20:22.240 That is not what's happening here.

00:20:23.740 You are not the victim.

00:20:24.820 Charlie is, actually.

00:20:25.900 He's dead.

00:20:26.720 And to pretend

00:20:27.660 like you are too aggrieved

00:20:29.160 to be able

00:20:30.160 to answer the questions

00:20:31.340 makes entirely no sense.

00:20:32.960 Obviously,

00:20:33.480 if you were actually

00:20:34.360 under a real amount of stress,

00:20:37.500 if you actually

00:20:38.140 were deeply upset

00:20:39.060 that people had you

00:20:40.380 on a list of suspects

00:20:41.980 or thought that you

00:20:42.900 were suspicious,

00:20:44.300 you would just clarify things

00:20:45.880 instantly, immediately.

00:20:47.740 It's so easy.

00:20:48.580 It's free.

00:20:49.280 If someone said,

00:20:50.000 Candice, what were you doing

00:20:51.620 when Charlie Kirk was shot?

00:20:52.880 I'd be like,

00:20:53.300 I was sitting down

00:20:54.420 at my table

00:20:55.820 prepping my show.

00:20:57.260 Like, the question

00:20:57.940 doesn't offend me

00:20:59.040 because I had nothing

00:21:00.000 to do with Charlie dying, okay?

00:21:02.460 This is a psychological technique

00:21:03.780 that is failing.

00:21:04.540 It is failing for you.

00:21:05.460 And you're upset

00:21:06.280 because you thought

00:21:07.240 that with time,

00:21:08.800 with the passage of time,

00:21:09.820 people would let the story go

00:21:10.660 and they didn't.

00:21:11.880 And these reasons

00:21:12.600 that he's about to list

00:21:13.500 for why they didn't respond

00:21:14.860 and answer any questions

00:21:15.680 are beyond ridiculous.

00:21:17.020 Let's take a listen.

00:21:18.860 For months,

00:21:19.920 we have received

00:21:20.640 hundreds, thousands,

00:21:21.960 I suspect,

00:21:22.720 emails and calls

00:21:23.840 asking us to respond.

00:21:25.840 People have wanted us

00:21:26.880 to invite Candice on the show.

00:21:28.980 But for a long time,

00:21:30.300 our approach

00:21:30.860 was to say nothing.

00:21:32.520 We did that

00:21:33.160 for several reasons.

00:21:34.740 First,

00:21:36.000 we thought

00:21:37.700 that her prevarications

00:21:38.940 were so absurd

00:21:40.220 that nobody

00:21:41.280 would believe them.

00:21:42.220 We shouldn't have

00:21:43.060 to answer questions

00:21:44.600 about secret tunnels

00:21:45.820 or Egyptian Air Force planes.

00:21:48.080 That sort of thing

00:21:48.820 is just,

00:21:49.260 it's beneath contempt

00:21:50.420 to respond to.

00:21:51.820 The second reason

00:21:52.900 we've said so little,

00:21:53.820 though,

00:21:54.060 is because there's

00:21:54.900 a good rule of thumb

00:21:55.680 which Charlie followed.

00:21:57.240 Do not feed the trolls.

00:21:58.760 Focus on the mission.

00:22:00.000 Reviving America.

00:22:01.000 Uplifting young people.

00:22:02.200 Making heaven crowded.

00:22:03.780 Don't give air

00:22:04.680 to people

00:22:05.160 who want to tear you down

00:22:06.640 and sow discord.

00:22:08.580 Lastly,

00:22:09.180 we didn't respond

00:22:10.220 because

00:22:11.020 Charlie always viewed

00:22:14.000 Candice as a friend

00:22:14.840 and we were holding out hope

00:22:16.700 that she would return

00:22:18.080 that friendship

00:22:18.620 and stop

00:22:19.860 what she was doing.

00:22:22.820 Okay,

00:22:23.380 so the first thing

00:22:24.620 he says there

00:22:25.280 is we didn't respond

00:22:26.220 because it's beneath us.

00:22:27.680 Like,

00:22:27.960 that's just not

00:22:28.860 the right attitude.

00:22:29.560 I mean,

00:22:29.720 that is an elitist attitude.

00:22:31.420 It is beneath us

00:22:32.540 to respond

00:22:33.080 to the very people

00:22:34.240 who showed up

00:22:35.600 in scores

00:22:36.320 because they were so moved

00:22:37.840 by Charlie's assassination

00:22:38.700 that they all poured

00:22:40.580 into the Staples Center,

00:22:42.540 right,

00:22:42.900 and poured their tears out

00:22:44.520 and made videos

00:22:45.320 and donated.

00:22:46.480 It is beneath us

00:22:47.820 to not,

00:22:49.460 to then respond

00:22:50.760 to questions

00:22:51.800 that you have

00:22:52.440 that are meaningful

00:22:53.060 because we just think

00:22:53.960 it's so stupid

00:22:54.620 that you would suggest

00:22:56.700 that the feds

00:22:57.820 are involved

00:22:58.220 in an assassination.

00:22:59.120 That's never happened

00:22:59.680 in American history.

00:23:00.580 What?

00:23:01.860 What?

00:23:03.060 So that's,

00:23:03.960 that's a ridiculous thing.

00:23:05.000 The second thing he says there

00:23:05.920 is Charlie always said

00:23:06.720 don't feed the trolls.

00:23:07.600 Well,

00:23:07.720 that flies into the face

00:23:08.580 of what he says

00:23:09.280 thereafter

00:23:10.460 where he says

00:23:11.700 Candace and Charlie

00:23:12.740 were friends.

00:23:13.440 So I'm not a troll,

00:23:14.680 okay?

00:23:15.560 I'm not a troll.

00:23:16.200 I'm not trolling.

00:23:16.840 I'm not someone

00:23:17.120 who's hated Turning Point

00:23:18.220 and wanted Turning Point

00:23:19.620 to fail.

00:23:19.940 I'm actually the exact

00:23:20.920 opposite of that

00:23:21.780 and that's why

00:23:22.720 the people believe in me

00:23:23.740 and they trust me

00:23:24.480 because they feel

00:23:25.560 that I'm the only one

00:23:26.960 that's acting right

00:23:27.700 in this situation.

00:23:28.620 Who wouldn't want

00:23:29.580 to have every

00:23:30.980 stone unturned

00:23:32.860 if they cared

00:23:33.740 about somebody?

00:23:34.460 Who wouldn't want

00:23:35.140 to have every question

00:23:36.100 answered?

00:23:36.400 Who wouldn't be

00:23:37.220 immediately

00:23:38.060 suspicious

00:23:39.140 to see Egyptian

00:23:40.860 military jets?

00:23:42.220 Who wouldn't go,

00:23:43.280 why the hell

00:23:44.080 were these jets

00:23:44.920 around Turning Point

00:23:45.980 way before,

00:23:47.760 years before

00:23:48.480 Charlie's assassination?

00:23:49.460 Who is on these jets?

00:23:51.600 Instead,

00:23:52.320 you're mentioning

00:23:53.040 the Egyptian planes

00:23:53.800 for the fourth time

00:23:54.660 so I would like

00:23:55.280 to recommit

00:23:55.740 everybody that

00:23:56.120 is watching this

00:23:56.800 to figuring out

00:23:57.500 what the hell

00:23:57.800 is going on

00:23:58.080 with the Egyptian planes

00:23:58.680 because they're

00:23:59.220 nervous about them,

00:24:00.080 okay?

00:24:00.440 So many times

00:24:01.720 they're trying

00:24:02.080 to give the vibe

00:24:02.740 that this is so crazy.

00:24:04.320 No,

00:24:04.700 they are fearful.

00:24:06.200 The Egyptian planes

00:24:07.040 hold the key

00:24:07.740 and that is obvious

00:24:08.420 even in Blake Neff's

00:24:09.260 statement.

00:24:10.420 But yeah,

00:24:10.720 I am not a troll,

00:24:11.740 okay?

00:24:12.480 And people followed

00:24:14.200 what felt to them

00:24:15.300 as authenticity

00:24:16.480 and it was not you.

00:24:17.620 They were not getting

00:24:18.440 that from Charlie's

00:24:19.960 closest friends.

00:24:21.320 Why is that?

00:24:22.440 They weren't getting

00:24:23.200 that from Charlie's

00:24:24.540 most loved pastors.

00:24:26.400 Why is that?

00:24:27.320 Don't blame me

00:24:28.740 for the bad energy

00:24:30.560 that you exuded,

00:24:31.800 okay?

00:24:32.240 Don't blame me

00:24:33.340 for the fact

00:24:33.920 that you didn't pass

00:24:35.480 the gut check

00:24:36.460 with the public.

00:24:37.820 That's why you're

00:24:38.700 doing this,

00:24:39.320 okay?

00:24:40.040 That is why

00:24:40.700 you are doing this

00:24:41.800 because your strategy

00:24:43.200 failed.

00:24:44.540 In fact,

00:24:45.180 this is your

00:24:46.240 old school turning point

00:24:47.360 before they put on

00:24:48.240 the faith pants.

00:24:50.120 This is your

00:24:50.840 old school turning point

00:24:51.800 lesson

00:24:52.240 and what the

00:24:53.060 free markets are.

00:24:54.620 The free markets

00:24:55.220 saw what you

00:24:55.900 were offering,

00:24:57.380 right?

00:24:58.140 And they saw

00:24:58.940 what I was offering.

00:25:00.820 You were offering,

00:25:01.840 we should accept

00:25:02.340 this and move on

00:25:03.000 and I was saying

00:25:03.540 we need to

00:25:03.900 investigate this

00:25:04.660 and the free markets

00:25:05.480 said no to

00:25:06.020 Turning Point USA.

00:25:07.860 Anyways,

00:25:08.500 let him take this

00:25:10.380 away in terms

00:25:11.740 of what he thought

00:25:13.060 I guess was

00:25:13.960 the best way

00:25:15.420 to be a friend

00:25:16.340 to Charlie Kirk.

00:25:17.680 What did he think

00:25:18.180 was the best way

00:25:18.840 for them to show

00:25:19.420 that they were friends

00:25:19.960 with Charlie Kirk?

00:25:20.540 Keep going,

00:25:21.040 Blake.

00:25:22.240 But a week

00:25:23.140 from now,

00:25:23.620 it's going to be

00:25:24.240 three months

00:25:25.140 since Charlie's

00:25:26.180 murder.

00:25:27.300 Candace has not

00:25:28.100 changed her behavior.

00:25:29.460 She has continued

00:25:30.340 to spread falsehoods

00:25:31.880 about Charlie's

00:25:32.580 friends and she

00:25:33.640 continues to

00:25:34.720 concoct new ones

00:25:36.020 about new people.

00:25:37.680 She's using these

00:25:38.580 falsehoods to enrich

00:25:39.600 herself while dividing

00:25:41.000 the conservative

00:25:42.000 movement at an

00:25:43.240 absolutely critical

00:25:44.220 time for this

00:25:45.140 country.

00:25:45.500 Canada can be a

00:25:49.100 global leader in

00:25:50.020 reducing the harm

00:25:50.940 caused by smoking,

00:25:52.120 but it requires

00:25:53.180 actionable steps.

00:25:54.880 Now is the time

00:25:55.640 to modernize

00:25:56.420 Canadian laws

00:25:57.340 so that adult

00:25:58.280 smokers have

00:25:58.960 information and

00:25:59.860 access to better

00:26:00.880 alternatives.

00:26:01.900 By doing so,

00:26:02.760 we can create

00:26:03.600 lasting change.

00:26:05.060 If you don't

00:26:05.720 smoke,

00:26:06.300 don't start.

00:26:07.500 If you smoke,

00:26:08.440 quit.

00:26:09.140 If you don't

00:26:10.000 quit,

00:26:10.600 change.

00:26:11.560 Visit

00:26:11.880 unsmoked.ca

00:26:13.120 I have to

00:26:17.840 applaud that

00:26:19.000 audacity.

00:26:20.200 I have to

00:26:20.620 applaud it.

00:26:21.060 You do.

00:26:21.500 You have to

00:26:22.040 applaud it.

00:26:24.320 These,

00:26:25.120 excuse me here,

00:26:26.280 but like,

00:26:27.200 I'm trying not

00:26:28.480 to swear.

00:26:31.740 These men,

00:26:33.060 okay,

00:26:33.340 this company,

00:26:34.520 these amazing

00:26:35.800 lads over here

00:26:36.960 have the audacity

00:26:38.480 to accuse me of

00:26:39.340 enriching myself

00:26:40.080 when they were

00:26:40.940 out there selling

00:26:41.760 t-shirts,

00:26:43.300 okay,

00:26:43.760 of what Charlie

00:26:44.480 died in to

00:26:45.800 enrich themselves.

00:26:47.020 Were they giving

00:26:47.460 those t-shirts

00:26:48.020 away for free

00:26:49.380 at the Staples

00:26:49.860 Centers?

00:26:50.180 No,

00:26:50.280 they were selling

00:26:50.960 kits of what

00:26:52.600 Charlie died in

00:26:53.620 to the tune of

00:26:54.340 80 million plus

00:26:56.020 dollars that they

00:26:57.260 made in the first

00:26:58.080 three weeks,

00:26:58.780 okay?

00:26:59.120 They made their

00:26:59.820 entire budget

00:27:01.100 for the year

00:27:02.600 in the first

00:27:03.920 couple of weeks

00:27:04.800 following Charlie's

00:27:05.620 assassination,

00:27:06.440 and they are

00:27:07.040 attacking me

00:27:07.780 with zero proof

00:27:09.260 that I made a

00:27:10.140 single dollar

00:27:11.020 off of Charlie's

00:27:11.740 assassination.

00:27:12.240 I did not sell

00:27:12.860 a cup.

00:27:13.620 I did not sell

00:27:14.300 a mug,

00:27:15.480 okay?

00:27:16.280 All I did

00:27:17.260 was do what I

00:27:18.120 already do

00:27:18.720 for a living,

00:27:19.820 okay?

00:27:20.600 I podcast

00:27:21.080 and I investigate

00:27:22.080 things.

00:27:23.180 I investigate

00:27:23.700 things that I

00:27:24.460 feel passionate

00:27:24.920 about.

00:27:25.680 Sometimes it's

00:27:26.340 Kamala's genealogy

00:27:27.400 when she's saying

00:27:28.260 she wants to be

00:27:28.680 the president

00:27:29.060 and things aren't

00:27:29.540 making sense

00:27:30.000 and I sense

00:27:30.480 that she is

00:27:30.900 lying.

00:27:31.860 Sometimes it's

00:27:32.660 Blake Lively

00:27:33.580 and Ryan Reynolds

00:27:35.040 when they

00:27:36.340 tried to destroy

00:27:37.960 a man's life

00:27:38.720 who's not

00:27:39.260 even on my

00:27:39.940 quote-unquote

00:27:40.380 political team.

00:27:42.240 Sometimes it's

00:27:42.960 Brigitte

00:27:43.500 and why

00:27:44.840 we are

00:27:45.560 colluding

00:27:46.120 with nations

00:27:47.500 to cover

00:27:48.080 the obvious

00:27:48.640 fact that

00:27:49.460 Brigitte was

00:27:49.940 born a male

00:27:51.240 and this time

00:27:52.620 it's personal

00:27:53.700 and it's you.

00:27:55.440 Do you want

00:27:55.700 to know what

00:27:56.000 all of these

00:27:57.320 investigations

00:27:58.300 have in common?

00:28:00.600 Liars who

00:28:01.360 lie and think

00:28:02.340 that the public

00:28:02.960 is too stupid

00:28:03.860 to see through

00:28:04.760 their lies.

00:28:05.880 That is how

00:28:06.680 we got into

00:28:07.220 this.

00:28:08.200 Okay?

00:28:09.060 I did not

00:28:09.560 sell anything.

00:28:10.640 You did that.

00:28:12.260 You guys

00:28:12.720 did that.

00:28:13.500 You guys

00:28:13.780 continued to

00:28:14.700 do that.

00:28:15.580 You guys

00:28:16.080 wanted to

00:28:16.760 just move

00:28:17.180 on and

00:28:18.160 to grift

00:28:18.880 off of

00:28:19.460 Charlie's

00:28:19.920 legacy.

00:28:20.860 I dedicated

00:28:21.460 myself to

00:28:22.480 figuring out

00:28:22.820 who murdered

00:28:23.180 him.

00:28:23.800 So,

00:28:24.540 anyways,

00:28:25.620 he does

00:28:27.400 get to the

00:28:27.940 point here

00:28:28.560 which is

00:28:29.660 that they

00:28:30.080 are willing

00:28:30.500 to finally

00:28:31.160 address things

00:28:31.960 head-on

00:28:32.560 so I will

00:28:33.060 let Blake

00:28:33.740 say that.

00:28:35.340 And far

00:28:35.780 too often

00:28:36.360 we here

00:28:37.260 have heard

00:28:37.840 from ordinary

00:28:38.400 people,

00:28:38.940 people who

00:28:39.420 loved Charlie

00:28:40.100 and who

00:28:40.660 Charlie loved

00:28:41.180 so much

00:28:41.540 in return.

00:28:42.640 These people

00:28:43.080 have expressed

00:28:43.760 the worry

00:28:44.360 that we

00:28:45.040 are staying

00:28:45.440 silent out

00:28:46.020 of cowardice

00:28:46.720 or as some

00:28:47.440 sort of tacit

00:28:48.180 admission that

00:28:49.060 some of the

00:28:49.480 attacks are

00:28:49.960 true.

00:28:50.980 Neither is

00:28:51.460 the case.

00:28:52.400 Our silence

00:28:52.960 has never

00:28:53.740 been and it

00:28:54.560 will never

00:28:55.440 be equal

00:28:56.600 to complacency

00:28:57.600 or approval.

00:28:59.220 Still,

00:29:00.080 we decided

00:29:01.060 Charlie would

00:29:02.340 not allow

00:29:02.920 this to go

00:29:03.440 on.

00:29:04.200 Charlie was

00:29:04.640 not a coward.

00:29:05.200 Charlie was

00:29:06.400 a fighter.

00:29:07.620 Charlie would

00:29:08.580 not allow

00:29:09.100 someone to

00:29:09.680 spread lies

00:29:10.420 about the

00:29:10.940 people closest

00:29:11.540 to him

00:29:11.940 with impunity

00:29:12.800 and he would

00:29:13.660 feel ashamed

00:29:14.400 if other people

00:29:15.480 were stepping up

00:29:16.120 to defend his

00:29:16.720 friends while he

00:29:17.900 never did so

00:29:18.640 himself.

00:29:21.360 Candace has

00:29:22.080 mentioned several

00:29:22.760 times that the

00:29:24.200 ball is in our

00:29:25.040 court.

00:29:25.900 So here's what

00:29:27.060 is going to

00:29:27.480 happen.

00:29:28.280 In the near

00:29:28.860 future, there

00:29:29.780 will be a

00:29:30.140 live stream

00:29:30.640 here in Phoenix

00:29:31.680 where we address

00:29:32.840 in a clear

00:29:33.820 and comprehensive

00:29:34.560 way the

00:29:35.480 claims and

00:29:36.180 accusations, the

00:29:37.360 false accusations

00:29:38.280 that have been

00:29:39.180 made against

00:29:39.700 Charlie's family,

00:29:40.880 friends, and the

00:29:41.860 people here at

00:29:42.400 Turning Point.

00:29:43.540 We plan to walk

00:29:44.740 through everything

00:29:45.140 carefully and

00:29:45.880 thoroughly.

00:29:46.760 If Candace is

00:29:47.720 available, we

00:29:48.540 would sincerely

00:29:49.240 welcome her

00:29:49.980 participation in

00:29:51.340 that live stream

00:29:52.040 at our studio

00:29:53.100 here in Phoenix.

00:29:54.880 At this point,

00:29:56.220 we believe the

00:29:57.420 ball is back in

00:29:58.040 her court.

00:29:58.440 Our motivation

00:30:00.460 for doing this

00:30:01.140 is not out of

00:30:02.120 any obligation

00:30:02.760 to Candace.

00:30:03.900 It is about

00:30:04.500 honoring Charlie.

00:30:05.860 We feel a deep

00:30:06.800 responsibility to

00:30:07.740 protect his

00:30:08.140 legacy, his

00:30:09.040 work, and the

00:30:09.900 truth.

00:30:10.340 I feel that.

00:30:11.560 I owe Charlie

00:30:12.800 everything in my

00:30:14.180 life.

00:30:15.380 I feel it

00:30:16.320 immensely.

00:30:18.000 And that is why

00:30:18.880 we feel compelled

00:30:19.740 to speak clearly

00:30:20.800 and openly now.

00:30:22.700 We'll have more

00:30:23.520 on this in the

00:30:24.140 near future.

00:30:26.920 Yay!

00:30:28.440 Finally!

00:30:30.180 You didn't have

00:30:30.580 to get through

00:30:31.000 all that shade

00:30:31.700 that you were

00:30:32.160 throwing me to

00:30:33.080 get to the point

00:30:33.800 that you were

00:30:34.420 willing to answer

00:30:35.320 questions, okay?

00:30:36.460 Because that's what

00:30:37.720 Charlie did for a

00:30:38.840 living.

00:30:40.140 How could you guys

00:30:40.920 think that you

00:30:41.820 were just going to

00:30:42.360 continue on and

00:30:43.720 pretend like people

00:30:44.680 asking meaningful

00:30:45.660 questions was

00:30:46.200 somehow an attack?

00:30:47.680 That's what he did

00:30:48.340 for a living.

00:30:49.060 He stood up on

00:30:49.700 college campuses

00:30:50.520 and he debated

00:30:51.960 people.

00:30:52.900 And he sat

00:30:54.200 there principally

00:30:55.080 and debated people

00:30:55.920 because he felt

00:30:57.040 that he had the

00:30:57.840 moral,

00:30:58.160 high ground,

00:30:59.120 okay?

00:30:59.640 And that if those

00:31:00.680 people disagreed

00:31:01.340 with him,

00:31:01.780 he could bring

00:31:02.500 them over to

00:31:03.260 his side.

00:31:04.020 You guys have

00:31:04.800 been actually

00:31:05.620 acting and

00:31:06.540 embodying the

00:31:07.260 opposite of

00:31:08.480 Charlie Kirk's

00:31:09.100 spirit, okay?

00:31:10.340 And you did it

00:31:10.940 even in this.

00:31:11.500 It was like one

00:31:12.060 big character

00:31:12.880 assassination.

00:31:14.300 And it wasn't

00:31:15.000 to me.

00:31:15.380 That's what you

00:31:15.640 guys don't

00:31:15.880 understand.

00:31:16.460 You're not

00:31:16.800 attacking me.

00:31:17.780 You are

00:31:18.080 attacking millions

00:31:19.340 of people around

00:31:20.560 the world who

00:31:21.760 watched a man,

00:31:23.500 an innocent man,

00:31:24.840 be publicly

00:31:25.580 executed and then

00:31:27.720 watched what

00:31:28.600 felt very

00:31:29.460 much like the

00:31:30.780 state collude to

00:31:32.840 feed us absolute

00:31:34.380 horseshit about what

00:31:36.400 took place on that

00:31:37.320 day, okay?

00:31:38.780 Thirty-ot-six bullets

00:31:40.620 do not get stopped

00:31:42.140 by human necks

00:31:43.120 because they eat

00:31:43.940 healthy.

00:31:44.460 They don't.

00:31:45.620 And yes, you guys

00:31:46.940 are a part of that

00:31:48.000 apparatus of people

00:31:49.180 who made us feel,

00:31:50.300 and you've expressed

00:31:50.900 it here, like you were

00:31:51.980 too good to answer

00:31:52.980 questions.

00:31:53.460 We are already

00:31:54.300 said, I got on

00:31:55.340 stage and I told

00:31:56.780 you that I'm

00:31:57.180 Charlie's pastor.

00:31:58.200 I told you I'm

00:31:58.820 his best friend.

00:32:00.300 I told you.

00:32:00.920 You guys have even

00:32:01.980 allowed people to

00:32:04.080 inject themselves

00:32:05.120 into his legacy

00:32:06.100 that Charlie didn't

00:32:07.240 even like.

00:32:08.380 And we're supposed

00:32:09.200 to believe you're

00:32:09.960 doing this because

00:32:10.600 you're his friend?

00:32:12.400 Because you're

00:32:13.120 committed to truth?

00:32:14.280 You sat there and

00:32:15.560 allowed the very

00:32:16.920 people who pressured

00:32:18.000 Charlie towards the

00:32:20.120 end of his life to

00:32:21.720 try to claim his

00:32:22.420 whole legacy and

00:32:23.620 you're pretending

00:32:24.240 we are the ones

00:32:25.200 that are immoral?

00:32:26.400 You're upset

00:32:27.020 because you got

00:32:27.500 caught lying.

00:32:28.120 You're upset

00:32:28.380 because you got

00:32:28.840 caught with your

00:32:29.260 pants down, but

00:32:29.760 you cannot blame

00:32:30.980 me for that,

00:32:32.180 okay?

00:32:32.960 These were your

00:32:33.400 own errors.

00:32:34.180 These were your

00:32:34.700 own lies, and I

00:32:35.940 was not going for

00:32:36.760 a single second to

00:32:37.820 let up on the

00:32:38.300 pressure.

00:32:38.660 In fact, I had

00:32:39.320 been so strategic

00:32:40.140 that I had been

00:32:41.780 holding on to

00:32:42.260 certain information,

00:32:43.260 hoping that you

00:32:44.540 would acquiesce to

00:32:45.260 have a public

00:32:45.680 conversation because

00:32:46.720 I want to look you

00:32:47.280 in the eye and I

00:32:49.140 want to challenge

00:32:50.140 you to lie to me

00:32:51.460 because I care

00:32:52.700 deeply about what

00:32:54.280 happened to Charlie

00:32:54.820 on that day.

00:32:55.560 I don't think

00:32:56.060 we're getting the

00:32:56.420 truth, and I do

00:32:57.420 believe that because

00:32:58.680 you are not

00:32:59.140 forthcoming about

00:33:00.200 the information that

00:33:00.840 you have about

00:33:02.180 Charlie texting you

00:33:03.000 guys and saying

00:33:03.600 that he thought he

00:33:04.080 was going to be

00:33:04.620 assassinated that

00:33:05.820 very next day,

00:33:08.340 okay?

00:33:08.640 The day that he

00:33:09.080 died, Charlie knew

00:33:10.240 that he thinks he

00:33:10.960 was going to be

00:33:11.460 killed tomorrow,

00:33:12.480 and you guys are

00:33:12.840 sitting on that

00:33:13.240 information.

00:33:14.060 So I'm the right

00:33:14.660 person, yeah?

00:33:15.820 I'm the right person

00:33:16.640 to sit across from

00:33:17.380 you and to ask you

00:33:18.520 questions, right?

00:33:19.760 Some things that you

00:33:20.500 told me on that day

00:33:21.280 they're not adding

00:33:21.820 up.

00:33:22.560 I think the entire

00:33:23.440 world would like to

00:33:24.040 see this discussion.

00:33:24.700 I think you can do

00:33:26.860 it in Charlie's

00:33:28.460 honor.

00:33:28.900 I'll sit there, you

00:33:30.260 pick a place and

00:33:31.160 time.

00:33:31.500 We could have done

00:33:32.060 this today, by the

00:33:32.680 way.

00:33:32.880 You didn't have to

00:33:33.500 read all that,

00:33:34.560 okay?

00:33:34.820 We all have tech.

00:33:36.060 We could have done a

00:33:36.880 live stream.

00:33:37.580 We could schedule a

00:33:38.340 live stream.

00:33:38.800 We can raise money

00:33:40.300 for Turning Point

00:33:41.280 USA if you promise

00:33:43.100 to answer every

00:33:44.040 question that I

00:33:44.760 have, okay?

00:33:46.100 And it's not hard.

00:33:47.180 It's not difficult if

00:33:49.180 you are telling the

00:33:49.940 truth to answer

00:33:51.260 questions.

00:33:52.100 When you are emoting

00:33:53.540 so much and you're

00:33:54.680 upset at the inquiry

00:33:56.200 and you're playing

00:33:57.820 this game like you're

00:33:59.520 David Hogg and I

00:34:00.600 survived Parkland, so

00:34:02.280 how dare you question

00:34:03.080 my authority on

00:34:03.800 anything?

00:34:05.020 Not a good long-term

00:34:06.040 strategy.

00:34:06.760 It's not going to be

00:34:07.240 effective long-term.

00:34:07.960 And I think you're

00:34:08.260 learning that lesson

00:34:08.780 because three months

00:34:10.040 on with the entire

00:34:11.920 mainstream media on

00:34:13.580 your side and

00:34:14.700 attacking me, which

00:34:15.520 you guys didn't even

00:34:16.120 stand up for me, when

00:34:17.160 you knew they were

00:34:18.140 lying about me, you

00:34:20.140 stayed mum.

00:34:21.320 That in and of

00:34:22.060 itself, you should be

00:34:24.000 ashamed of.

00:34:25.580 You should be ashamed

00:34:26.640 to sit across from

00:34:27.320 people who did

00:34:28.180 everything they could

00:34:29.300 to stop Charlie's

00:34:30.840 rise, breaking bread

00:34:31.980 with them, and

00:34:33.140 refusing to have a

00:34:34.880 conversation with me

00:34:35.860 and you know that I

00:34:36.720 cared about Charlie.

00:34:38.680 Have you no shame?

00:34:40.260 We're going to find

00:34:41.100 out.

00:34:42.060 You can pick the

00:34:42.900 place.

00:34:43.300 You can pick the

00:34:43.720 time.

00:34:44.040 I say we do it

00:34:44.760 tomorrow.

00:34:45.060 We don't need to

00:34:45.460 plan for this.

00:34:46.040 We don't need lawyers

00:34:46.620 in between us, lawyer

00:34:47.540 statements.

00:34:48.040 It's not how I roll,

00:34:49.240 okay?

00:34:49.820 I don't care about

00:34:50.460 any of that.

00:34:50.740 I want it to be

00:34:51.300 authentic.

00:34:52.020 Like I said, you

00:34:53.260 can take the money.

00:34:54.340 We can raise money

00:34:55.360 live for this

00:34:55.980 conversation.

00:34:56.900 That is how badly

00:34:57.820 the world is

00:34:59.000 demanding it.

00:35:00.300 So I accept it.

00:35:01.260 With whistles and

00:35:02.100 bells, everything, I

00:35:03.740 fully accept.

00:35:04.580 I say, let's do it

00:35:05.320 tomorrow.

00:35:06.380 Let's do it

00:35:06.840 tomorrow.

00:35:07.680 And my only ground

00:35:08.480 rule is no

00:35:09.920 assassinations, okay?

00:35:11.340 No assassinations, no

00:35:12.140 funny business.

00:35:12.640 You can't pretend

00:35:13.060 you're going to do it

00:35:13.620 and then Candace

00:35:14.560 died in a mysterious

00:35:15.280 accident, okay?

00:35:17.360 We'll be right back

00:35:18.000 after a quick break.

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00:37:41.120 All right, you guys, let's

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00:37:42.900 I'm laughing at the live

00:37:44.860 chat right now.

00:37:45.420 They really think

00:37:45.860 Turning Point is going to

00:37:46.400 kill me.

00:37:47.020 I don't go.

00:37:47.900 Don't go in person.

00:37:48.880 It's a setup.

00:37:49.340 It's a trap.

00:37:49.800 I really guys, I think

00:37:51.000 that they would be

00:37:53.400 they would kind of

00:37:54.040 figure that they would

00:37:56.380 be blamed for that.

00:37:57.280 I think we're OK

00:37:58.080 there.

00:37:59.180 But let's start with the

00:38:00.120 Pentagon because this is

00:38:00.920 interesting.

00:38:01.740 The United States

00:38:02.180 Pentagon, in case you

00:38:03.340 don't know, is the

00:38:04.640 complex that houses our

00:38:05.920 Department of Defense.

00:38:07.520 It's a massive complex,

00:38:08.620 right?

00:38:08.880 There is arguably no

00:38:10.940 more relevant building to

00:38:13.360 communicating to the

00:38:14.820 American people about

00:38:16.040 foreign threats.

00:38:16.600 That's what they do is

00:38:18.820 quite literally the nerve

00:38:20.700 center.

00:38:21.580 The United States Armed

00:38:22.300 Forces headquarters

00:38:23.380 for the Army, the Navy

00:38:24.980 and the Air Force.

00:38:26.980 And recently, because the

00:38:29.040 American government wants

00:38:30.060 the world to no longer

00:38:31.480 take us seriously as a

00:38:33.520 nation or something,

00:38:35.000 they decided to undergo a

00:38:36.460 quote unquote press

00:38:37.440 corps makeover, ostensibly

00:38:38.880 to let in new,

00:38:39.860 independent, more trusted

00:38:41.280 journalists.

00:38:42.060 And some of them are.

00:38:42.780 OK, James O'Keefe,

00:38:43.600 obviously, formerly of

00:38:44.800 Project Veritas.

00:38:45.460 He's very much trusted.

00:38:47.040 Matt Gaetz.

00:38:47.940 I like him very much.

00:38:48.780 But some of the people

00:38:49.560 that they let in are

00:38:50.820 almost the exact opposite

00:38:52.200 of trustworthy and are

00:38:53.740 just radically

00:38:54.800 pro-Zionist, like they

00:38:56.080 will lie, steal,

00:38:57.840 cheat and figuratively

00:38:59.160 murder or figure

00:39:00.700 I guess literally allow

00:39:02.200 Israel to murder without

00:39:03.460 asking any questions.

00:39:04.180 And so that's why they're

00:39:05.080 being let in.

00:39:05.800 Most notably, obviously,

00:39:07.080 Laura Loomer.

00:39:07.680 She's totally nutty.

00:39:08.680 And I don't say that in a

00:39:10.100 way of like, I'm just

00:39:11.180 it's an ad hominem attack.

00:39:12.620 I mean, like she has

00:39:13.480 psychotic issues.

00:39:15.720 Allowing Laura Loomer into

00:39:17.160 a national defense complex

00:39:18.400 is actually sort of just an

00:39:20.320 indication to just how

00:39:21.280 committed they are to

00:39:22.580 laundering the reputations

00:39:23.880 of anyone as long as they

00:39:25.860 say I support Israel.

00:39:26.900 Because Laura Loomer is

00:39:28.700 quite literally so deranged

00:39:29.960 that she once handcuffed

00:39:31.040 herself to the Twitter

00:39:33.220 headquarters because they

00:39:34.820 banned her account.

00:39:35.700 OK, that's like and she

00:39:36.980 wore a yellow star of

00:39:37.940 David when I met her.

00:39:39.560 She was crying tears

00:39:40.440 because they took away

00:39:41.240 her checkmark.

00:39:42.300 She deeply, deeply cares

00:39:43.940 about social media in a

00:39:45.640 way that is just unhinged.

00:39:47.240 OK, now she is

00:39:49.400 apparently not allowed to

00:39:50.580 own a gun because of

00:39:51.540 various psychotic events

00:39:53.540 that required her

00:39:54.740 hospitalization.

00:39:55.840 But due to her commitment

00:39:57.160 to Zionism, which in a

00:39:59.380 Zionist defense seems like

00:40:02.020 a psychopathology is a

00:40:03.880 prerequisite, the media is

00:40:05.520 now trying to mainstream

00:40:06.640 her and make us think

00:40:07.720 that she's like a serious

00:40:08.520 person.

00:40:09.220 So our government, the

00:40:10.940 Pentagon, decide to

00:40:11.860 credential her at this

00:40:13.160 time.

00:40:13.540 She's a part of the new

00:40:14.400 press corps that we can

00:40:15.260 trust.

00:40:16.980 Laura has probably been

00:40:17.940 the one of the more

00:40:19.280 prominent gaslighters when

00:40:20.560 it comes to Charlie

00:40:21.060 Kirk's assassination.

00:40:22.420 She hated Charlie when he

00:40:23.780 was alive and now wants

00:40:25.900 everyone to honor him by

00:40:27.900 not prodding the

00:40:28.620 narrative surrounding his

00:40:29.720 death.

00:40:30.100 Literally a couple of

00:40:30.960 weeks before he died, she

00:40:31.800 called Charlie a

00:40:33.620 charlatan, a political

00:40:34.640 opportunist, that he

00:40:35.780 wasn't pro-Trump, simply

00:40:37.540 because he hosted Dave

00:40:38.800 Smith, who is anti-Zionist,

00:40:41.460 he is also Jewish, for a

00:40:43.000 debate with Josh Hammer,

00:40:44.580 who's a radical Zionist

00:40:45.720 like herself, at one of his

00:40:47.260 events.

00:40:48.160 Charlie believed in free

00:40:49.000 speech and he believed in

00:40:49.920 debate and so that was her

00:40:51.000 reason for attacking him.

00:40:52.720 Briefly showing you this

00:40:54.260 tweet from her, not even

00:40:56.440 worth reading in its

00:40:57.180 entirety, but this is the

00:40:58.540 tweet that she sent out.

00:40:59.440 And then Charlie died a

00:41:01.380 couple of weeks later and

00:41:03.040 she completely switched and

00:41:04.680 now thinks that she's

00:41:05.620 guarding his legacy.

00:41:06.880 Anyways, she was beside

00:41:08.760 herself with a glee this

00:41:09.880 morning sharing news that

00:41:12.340 another Zionist influencer

00:41:13.860 named Cam Higby, who has

00:41:16.000 also now been credentialed by

00:41:18.040 the Pentagon, decided to ask

00:41:21.020 the perhaps billion dollar

00:41:23.200 question to the Pentagon's

00:41:25.400 press secretary, a young

00:41:27.160 woman named Kingsley

00:41:27.920 Wilson, about the foreign

00:41:30.040 angle of Charlie's

00:41:31.200 assassination.

00:41:31.960 Now, I obviously reported

00:41:34.520 that the French foreign

00:41:38.360 legion were apparently on

00:41:39.640 the ground on the day of

00:41:41.000 Charlie Kirk's assassination.

00:41:42.540 So here is Cam Higby, who I

00:41:46.100 guess is playing dress up as a

00:41:47.540 reporter, asking the Pentagon's

00:41:50.680 press secretary a question

00:41:53.200 about the most viral story for

00:41:56.840 about a week pertaining to

00:41:59.720 France's participation in the

00:42:02.460 biggest political assassination

00:42:03.960 that has taken place since

00:42:06.660 JFK, I would say.

00:42:08.680 I think that's fair.

00:42:10.260 Here's our new press corps, guys.

00:42:12.340 Take a listen to actually

00:42:13.600 first let's focus in on Cam

00:42:15.620 Higby's question.

00:42:16.660 The way he asks it is, I

00:42:18.320 think, worthy of highlighting.

00:42:20.840 Take a listen.

00:42:22.100 Absolutely.

00:42:22.520 I'm Kingsley Wilson.

00:42:23.440 I'm the press secretary here at

00:42:24.820 the Pentagon.

00:42:25.180 We're in the Pentagon briefing

00:42:26.220 room, and it's been fantastic.

00:42:28.640 Get to come to the Pentagon

00:42:29.700 every day, and now you all do

00:42:31.240 as well.

00:42:31.980 Yeah.

00:42:32.560 So this is my first question,

00:42:34.880 and don't laugh.

00:42:35.940 Does the D.O.W. have any

00:42:37.700 evidence at all of a French

00:42:40.280 military plot to assassinate

00:42:42.120 Candace Owens?

00:42:45.180 Okay.

00:42:45.920 Here's my first question.

00:42:47.320 Don't laugh.

00:42:48.260 It's like two girls getting

00:42:49.260 their nails done.

00:42:49.900 Okay, okay, okay.

00:42:50.360 Let me ask.

00:42:50.920 We're like a sleepover.

00:42:52.160 Okay, okay, okay, okay.

00:42:52.960 I have something to tell you.

00:42:53.800 Don't laugh.

00:42:54.360 Don't laugh.

00:42:55.280 Don't laugh.

00:42:57.020 Is this supposed to make us

00:43:00.140 think that this is not

00:43:01.460 propaganda?

00:43:02.280 Are we going, this is cool?

00:43:03.300 Is this the new strategy?

00:43:05.300 All the cool kids don't even

00:43:06.460 ask the feds questions.

00:43:08.380 All the cool kids just get in

00:43:09.580 line and do whatever they say.

00:43:11.420 All the cool kids just think

00:43:12.420 it's beyond crazy to consider

00:43:14.720 that the state would

00:43:15.280 assassinate people, even

00:43:16.800 though that's what we do.

00:43:17.760 That's what the CIA does.

00:43:18.680 We just murder people around

00:43:19.340 the world.

00:43:19.800 But that's crazy talk.

00:43:21.700 And so they're going to

00:43:22.660 make it, it's like too cool

00:43:23.720 to even answer.

00:43:25.260 Take it away, Kingsley.

00:43:27.160 That is an interesting

00:43:28.260 question.

00:43:29.120 Not that I'm aware of, but

00:43:31.400 you know, interesting

00:43:32.880 question.

00:43:33.820 I can try to find out and

00:43:35.540 maybe let you know.

00:43:36.580 I think that might be more

00:43:37.800 of a law enforcement matter

00:43:39.160 though.

00:43:40.480 No, I think actually the

00:43:41.900 Department of Defense, this

00:43:43.320 would be a good matter for you

00:43:44.940 guys to take up of whether or

00:43:46.580 not foreign governments are

00:43:49.820 plotting assassinations of

00:43:51.220 American citizens feels like

00:43:52.880 this might be the right

00:43:53.740 department to me.

00:43:55.040 And I'm not laughing.

00:43:57.400 So when I say to you guys,

00:43:59.680 when I stress to you guys that

00:44:01.020 you should not be signing up

00:44:02.260 for war, you should not be

00:44:03.940 signing up for the military,

00:44:05.380 you should not get involved in

00:44:07.900 this obvious war that they are

00:44:09.000 planning that's coming soon.

00:44:10.540 This exact moment between these

00:44:13.600 two people is what I'm

00:44:15.200 referring to.

00:44:15.760 It's like a rare glimpse into

00:44:17.320 the elitist perspective of our

00:44:19.280 government.

00:44:19.980 Like our job, I guess, is to

00:44:21.920 work and to deposit money so

00:44:24.140 that they can build themselves

00:44:25.360 complexes like the Pentagon,

00:44:27.900 which is a 6.5 million

00:44:31.540 square foot residence office

00:44:34.640 building.

00:44:35.020 OK, it is the second largest

00:44:36.500 office building in the world.

00:44:38.680 6.5 million square feet.

00:44:40.280 And they built it with our money

00:44:42.840 so that we could have some sort of

00:44:44.500 an illusion of being protected

00:44:46.500 by our government.

00:44:47.180 Like we could actually call them

00:44:48.320 and say, hey, I have very

00:44:50.640 specific information and

00:44:52.200 accounts that you can trace

00:44:53.580 because the president

00:44:55.580 played of France, allegedly

00:44:58.400 paid one point five million

00:44:59.800 dollars for my assassination.

00:45:01.020 And by the way, I have evidence

00:45:03.420 they had French foreign legion on

00:45:05.260 the ground that Charlie got

00:45:06.280 assassinated.

00:45:08.240 They're not going to respond to

00:45:09.440 that.

00:45:10.020 Right.

00:45:10.620 That's all supposed to be an

00:45:11.440 illusion when it comes down to it,

00:45:13.160 getting that credible evidence

00:45:14.700 after a televised event,

00:45:18.340 essentially a televised event

00:45:19.320 of a public execution.

00:45:22.840 LOL.

00:45:24.120 Get back to work, slaves.

00:45:26.060 We're trying not to laugh at you

00:45:28.140 questioning whether or not a 30

00:45:30.800 odd six can be magically stopped

00:45:32.140 by a human neck.

00:45:32.900 How dare you ask any questions

00:45:34.700 or speak to us about states

00:45:37.180 coordinating assassinations?

00:45:38.520 And are you guys still talking

00:45:39.860 about the Epstein files?

00:45:42.400 That's the that's that's the

00:45:43.680 attitude.

00:45:44.180 They think this is good PR.

00:45:45.900 But the Zionist accounts are

00:45:47.220 sharing this and they're going,

00:45:48.260 LOL.

00:45:48.760 I don't know that the American

00:45:51.140 government has ever been

00:45:53.020 more.

00:45:53.580 I don't know if they've ever been

00:45:54.520 more out of touch, the American

00:45:55.520 people than to see this

00:45:57.440 as a they're like, send it

00:45:59.100 around the press.

00:45:59.840 Ha ha.

00:46:00.640 The Pentagon is laughing

00:46:02.120 at foreign assassination.

00:46:03.980 They don't take anything

00:46:04.640 seriously.

00:46:05.240 Yeah.

00:46:05.320 We just watched Trump get shot

00:46:07.100 at and his ear clipped.

00:46:09.180 We just watched another person

00:46:11.200 try to assassinate Trump on the

00:46:13.080 golf field.

00:46:13.620 And then we watched Charlie

00:46:14.340 Kirk die publicly.

00:46:15.400 But LOL, I'll get back to you.

00:46:18.240 We'll get back to you.

00:46:19.120 That's not what we're here for.

00:46:19.900 Get to work, slaves.

00:46:21.600 Again, there is no left or right.

00:46:23.260 It's just the elites.

00:46:24.680 It's the media apparatus that

00:46:26.180 protects those elites and then

00:46:28.020 the rest of us who are supposed

00:46:29.200 to be slaves.

00:46:30.080 OK, the elites own everything.

00:46:32.180 They own everyone.

00:46:33.360 And if somebody actually breaks

00:46:35.320 free, right, if they have an

00:46:37.740 individual in the matrix who

00:46:39.720 creates something that they

00:46:41.540 cannot control or buy, then

00:46:45.700 there are only a couple of

00:46:46.660 options for that individual.

00:46:48.080 OK, the state responds and they

00:46:49.280 say, we will destroy you

00:46:50.380 reputationally.

00:46:51.580 We will call you crazy, go after

00:46:54.040 reputation, make up

00:46:55.040 allegations against you.

00:46:56.220 We will bankrupt you.

00:46:58.100 We will imprison you or we will

00:47:00.680 kill you.

00:47:01.020 That's the reality of the world

00:47:02.040 that we live in.

00:47:02.740 OK, we don't live in a meritocracy.

00:47:04.100 It's not a free nation.

00:47:05.280 You they have to be able to

00:47:06.680 control you.

00:47:07.660 And the timing of me speaking

00:47:09.180 about this is so perfect

00:47:10.880 because this article appeared

00:47:12.700 in Fortune yesterday.

00:47:14.220 This is the headline inside the

00:47:15.860 economics of Candace Owens's

00:47:17.540 media empire and the

00:47:19.240 Macron lawsuit threatening to

00:47:21.200 unravel it.

00:47:21.940 They went with this like they're

00:47:23.260 proud of this, like a lawsuit

00:47:24.420 can unravel what they're calling

00:47:26.000 an empire is actually just a

00:47:28.160 mom from home who got fired

00:47:30.120 and rejected from literally

00:47:31.520 nations.

00:47:32.060 They tried to destroy me last

00:47:33.380 year.

00:47:33.860 They took everything.

00:47:35.340 They just tried to destroy my

00:47:36.520 reputation, tried to break my

00:47:38.080 friendships and I survived.

00:47:39.800 OK, and that angers them.

00:47:42.360 And so this article is written

00:47:43.660 with such elitism, the hope

00:47:46.080 that the state will step in

00:47:47.860 and just break it, just bankrupt

00:47:50.140 it.

00:47:50.440 This is an actual quotation.

00:47:51.460 The lawsuit, the lawsuit is set to

00:47:55.520 test whether the controversy as

00:47:58.460 currency that made Owens rich and

00:48:00.720 gave her a media brand that

00:48:02.040 reaches tens of millions of

00:48:03.300 people can survive what experts

00:48:05.820 say will be an immensely costly

00:48:08.240 legal battle.

00:48:10.160 Yeah, we're going to bankrupt

00:48:11.940 Candace Owens.

00:48:13.800 That is our intent.

00:48:15.320 The experts are saying that we can

00:48:17.220 do it because we can't control her.

00:48:18.720 She wouldn't sell out, not to the

00:48:21.500 military complex that we live in,

00:48:22.980 not to big companies, not to

00:48:23.960 corporations.

00:48:24.440 She wouldn't turn the eye when

00:48:26.820 Palestinians were being genocided

00:48:28.680 by Israel.

00:48:29.660 And we have no other options.

00:48:31.500 We're running out of options here.

00:48:33.240 So we've got to kill her or we've

00:48:34.400 got to bankrupt her.

00:48:35.180 And we're saying we're signaling

00:48:36.340 that we're going to bankrupt her.

00:48:37.460 That's how this thing works.

00:48:39.340 For telling the truth, by the way,

00:48:40.840 that's why I'm being sued.

00:48:42.080 And they're not lying.

00:48:43.100 Thus far in the Brigitte Macron

00:48:44.800 lawsuit, we have paid over a

00:48:47.900 quarter of a million dollars and

00:48:49.540 we haven't even had our first day

00:48:50.900 in court.

00:48:52.140 OK, that's the matrix.

00:48:54.360 That is the matrix.

00:48:56.120 And I will again assert to these

00:48:58.620 people, I will never bow the knee

00:49:00.640 to evil.

00:49:01.360 I will never bow the knee to bend

00:49:05.380 the knee rather to people that harm

00:49:07.940 children.

00:49:08.740 You will never see me bend the knee

00:49:11.560 to that ever bankrupt me if that is

00:49:14.460 what makes you feel good, because

00:49:15.740 at the end of the day, it feels like

00:49:17.120 we are existing in a time where you

00:49:18.920 are only catalyzing your own

00:49:20.520 demise like it's people have never

00:49:22.020 been more awake and more in tune.

00:49:23.520 And the focus on Charlie Kirk's

00:49:25.680 assassination proves that you

00:49:27.200 couldn't make that go away.

00:49:29.120 Speaking of which, Charlie Kirk,

00:49:30.620 whose death is exposing this

00:49:32.440 matrix in ways I do not even think

00:49:33.880 that we can fully comprehend in this

00:49:35.360 moment just yet.

00:49:36.280 We asked the question and we can't

00:49:38.240 find the answer as to where

00:49:39.960 Brigitte Macron was.

00:49:41.560 On the dates of the Egyptian plane

00:49:42.980 was flying around America, just like a

00:49:44.560 six-day gap in Brigitte's schedule.

00:49:47.100 And now, of course, especially as we

00:49:49.940 have learned about Delaware and the

00:49:52.340 DuPont-French connection and the

00:49:54.320 French Foreign Legion non-answer that

00:49:56.280 we're getting, just gaslighting that

00:49:58.160 we are getting, it feels like an even

00:50:00.180 more relevant and rational question to

00:50:02.260 be asking and somehow made even more

00:50:06.300 interesting.

00:50:07.100 Now that we know or that we've learned

00:50:10.680 and thanks to the internet slews and the

00:50:12.320 YouTubers that put this together, at an

00:50:14.920 hour and a half before Charlie Kirk was

00:50:17.080 assassinated in Utah, Donald Trump and

00:50:19.700 Emmanuel Macron had a phone call that has

00:50:22.640 been recorded in Emmanuel Macron's public

00:50:24.760 calendar, which has been released.

00:50:27.000 You can see that he had the phone call with

00:50:31.760 Donald Trump at six, sorry, this would be

00:50:35.040 6.45, obviously, p.m. in French time.

00:50:38.180 That's 10.45 a.m. in Utah time.

00:50:41.060 10.45 a.m. Utah time is when they had this

00:50:46.120 phone call.

00:50:47.060 And look, that could be nothing.

00:50:48.720 There's a lot going on in the world,

00:50:49.660 obviously.

00:50:50.420 And we also know that there has been a lot

00:50:53.240 of discussion about Ukraine and there's a

00:50:55.360 million reasons that Emmanuel Macron and him

00:50:58.420 could have had that poorly timed phone call.

00:51:01.380 But it would be great if a press member could

00:51:05.300 not LOL and say what was the nature of the

00:51:07.840 phone call just so that we know, right?

00:51:09.700 These are questions I think it's fair for us

00:51:11.760 to ask with everything that's coming up and the

00:51:14.620 lack of a true response that we're getting from

00:51:16.640 anyone that has the means to answer these

00:51:19.520 questions.

00:51:20.760 Anyways, you guys, we're almost at overtime here,

00:51:22.940 but in other assassination news, I wanted to

00:51:25.820 mention to you that The Game, who is a hip-hop

00:51:28.740 rapper, is releasing an album and he has a song

00:51:31.420 on his track list in this upcoming album that's

00:51:34.660 entitled The Assassination, Candace Owens.

00:51:38.800 I'm having like the best year ever or something.

00:51:41.120 I don't know.

00:51:44.080 Why?

00:51:45.300 Why?

00:51:46.600 Why The Game?

00:51:47.740 Why's it got to be song number 13?

00:51:50.740 What's going on?

00:51:51.520 This better not be predictive programming.

00:51:53.920 Okay.

00:51:54.800 We know how Hollywood gets down.

00:51:56.300 Okay.

00:51:56.560 We're reading your books.

00:51:57.360 Anyways, he was asked this question, this exact

00:51:59.480 question.

00:51:59.920 Why?

00:52:00.400 And he gave an answer.

00:52:01.340 And here's what The Game had to say.

00:52:02.420 So you got this new mixtape dropping, and then there's

00:52:06.160 this like one track called The Assassination of Candace

00:52:09.460 Owens?

00:52:10.180 Yeah.

00:52:10.480 Why that title?

00:52:12.200 Um, because recently I've been seeing like conspiracy

00:52:16.180 theories and you know about Candace Owens from herself,

00:52:20.640 self-admitted.

00:52:21.960 She feels like people are conspiring her.

00:52:23.840 So what it was is more so an assassination of the character.

00:52:28.340 So I just used that because it was like current news, but

00:52:31.300 it's not, the song is not about Candace.

00:52:33.800 Oh, okay.

00:52:34.620 So it's just a little bit deeper than, okay.

00:52:36.260 Yeah, I'm a rapper.

00:52:36.900 We use metaphors, you know?

00:52:38.200 Okay.

00:52:38.700 But aren't you, I mean, are you worried about Candace coming

00:52:41.040 for you about this?

00:52:42.120 Uh, yeah, no, I'm not, no, I'm not worried about Candace.

00:52:45.300 But then again, you got to hear the song.

00:52:47.280 Okay.

00:52:47.700 So she'll understand if she hears the song, maybe?

00:52:51.140 I mean, the thing is, she said the people were trying to

00:52:54.200 assassinate her.

00:52:54.880 So all I did was say it to her.

00:52:57.560 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:58.100 So again, the song is not about her, but Candace Owens, man,

00:53:01.620 she real smart, really intelligent, uh, woman.

00:53:05.380 But if she comes for me, I mean, you know, it is what it is.

00:53:10.100 It is what it is.

00:53:11.140 There's beef in these streets.

00:53:12.500 Okay.

00:53:12.880 There's beef in these streets and you better be scared because

00:53:14.780 maybe I am coming for you.

00:53:16.040 Okay.

00:53:16.760 I could be coming for you.

00:53:18.060 I might drop a whole album.

00:53:20.020 I might drop a whole mixtape too.

00:53:21.560 Okay.

00:53:22.340 Anyways, I think it is a form of flattery.

00:53:24.740 Obviously I'm friends with Ye, um, and he makes music and

00:53:29.360 they do use a lot of metaphors.

00:53:30.960 So I'm not offended by this.

00:53:32.900 Do I love the timing?

00:53:34.100 Could I get a break for six months maybe and not have that

00:53:37.420 title be there?

00:53:38.860 Sure.

00:53:39.460 But I'm totally okay with this.

00:53:40.680 I think it's kind of cool.

00:53:41.380 I actually kind of think it's cool.

00:53:43.120 I hope the song lyrics are cool and it's not a diss track and

00:53:46.020 it's not gonna be like Eminem crying about me on a whole

00:53:47.980 album, but, um, I look forward to the song.

00:53:50.460 I hope you use also feel free to use a little audio from the

00:53:53.060 podcast.

00:53:53.360 That would be cool.

00:53:54.420 You can, you can use a strip of me saying something.

00:53:57.280 Everything is fake and gay would be super, super fly.

00:54:00.100 Everything is fake and gay.

00:54:00.960 Please put that in the song.

00:54:01.800 That's my only request.

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00:57:30.060 Top comment from yesterday's episode.

00:57:32.000 Somebody writes, the worst part of being awake is realizing there are way more evil

00:57:38.020 people on this planet than I ever thought possible.

00:57:40.280 I actually don't think there's more.

00:57:42.120 I think they have a tremendous amount of power.

00:57:45.360 I think they have control over the military.

00:57:47.900 And I think that power will wane if we stop subjecting ourselves to their systems, their

00:57:54.880 financial systems, their peer pressure systems, Hollywood, you know, the adoration that we

00:58:00.580 had for stars and we followed their trends.

00:58:02.960 And if we actually studied where it all came from, which is incredibly evil indoctrination,

00:58:08.360 quite literally doctrines of evil, which is guiding that movement.

00:58:12.480 It's guiding that theology rather.

00:58:14.420 I spoke about it more at length with Russell Brandon on his show.

00:58:18.180 So that should be coming out soon.

00:58:19.340 But we have to become educated about where it stems from.

00:58:21.260 There's less of them.

00:58:22.260 They have a lot of power.

00:58:23.000 They have a lot of influence and they have, you know, blackmailed people that are in powerful

00:58:27.840 positions.

00:58:28.640 There's definitively more of us.

00:58:29.980 That's why they want to kill us.

00:58:31.020 Obviously, that's why they want to drug us and keep us dumb is because the numbers are

00:58:34.880 not on their side.

00:58:36.960 So we have to make sure it's not just the numbers, but also that the ideology is not

00:58:40.200 on their side.

00:58:40.740 The answer to people that want less families, not because they want you to be more efficient

00:58:46.660 and to climb the corporate ladder.

00:58:48.140 They just want less of you.

00:58:49.340 There needs to be less slaves if you want to maintain control and you don't want the

00:58:53.520 risk of a revolution to come down upon you.

00:58:56.080 That's the true answer is that that's why they promote all of these things.

00:58:59.340 That's why they want people to have less children is because they want to increase their numbers

00:59:03.900 while decreasing ours.

00:59:05.200 And so we need to be radical about not also giving our children to the system.

00:59:10.240 If you can and you can, you absolutely can homeschool your children, pull them out of

00:59:15.860 the system.

00:59:16.500 Don't send your kids to college.

00:59:17.560 Usury is another one of their tactics.

00:59:20.180 Don't rack up debt.

00:59:21.120 I made that mistake and learned nothing.

00:59:23.600 It's just more time for them to indoctrinate your children.

00:59:26.460 Be bold in changing the system.

00:59:28.600 Be radical in your response of taking ownership over your own home.

00:59:31.900 That's what I would say in response to that.

00:59:34.520 Goodness wins.

00:59:35.660 Goodness wins.

00:59:37.420 In truth, Christ has already won.

00:59:40.640 More comments from today.

00:59:41.840 Merrill writes, careful, Candice.

00:59:43.080 They may be betting that you won't be available for a sit down the next few weeks.

00:59:46.680 Also, watch your sources.

00:59:48.400 Sometimes the feds plant sources with almost good information in order to humiliate their

00:59:53.280 target later.

00:59:54.340 Yes, I'm very aware of that.

00:59:56.060 And we are very cautious about our sources.

00:59:58.980 And sometimes that has happened where and we haven't gone.

01:00:02.240 Fortunately, we haven't made a public mistake, but we'll keep going.

01:00:04.520 And then I'll be like, I think this is good.

01:00:06.200 And then Mark will be like, I don't know about this.

01:00:07.920 Or Skyler be like, I don't know about this.

01:00:09.820 And that is what takes us so much time every day is we're a small team, but we're constantly

01:00:14.380 having to debate ourselves before we put something out.

01:00:17.220 So thank you for that.

01:00:18.680 Briley writes, they didn't answer any of your questions.

01:00:21.460 They only brought up speculations that you made throughout the series.

01:00:23.940 I hope you don't go there in person for your own safety.

01:00:26.340 It is so sad that we have reached a time where you guys are legitimately concerned about

01:00:31.180 my safety.

01:00:31.900 And I get that.

01:00:33.020 I get that.

01:00:33.520 I feel like there is definitely something military that happened when Charlie got assassinated.

01:00:40.880 And I think our lack of comfort comes from perhaps their refusal to acknowledge that.

01:00:45.900 I think their response is what makes you guys feel fearful.

01:00:49.840 But truly, I don't think Turning Point USA is so silly and stupid that they would coordinate

01:00:56.400 an assassination on their campus and then think they're going to be like, that just happened.

01:01:03.760 I don't, it was all weird.

01:01:05.000 She ate a bad sandwich or something, but it is sad.

01:01:07.600 It really is a marker of the times that we live in that you guys truly feel this way.

01:01:13.020 Angie Lynn writes, TPUSA will lie about everything as they have been doing.

01:01:16.520 Do not trust this for one second.

01:01:17.820 You and your family's safety, money, everything is compromised.

01:01:20.800 Team Candace, Christ is king.

01:01:22.840 James Gray writes, the TPUSA response seemed fake, calculated, scared.

01:01:26.420 That guy's body language was just completely off and he was literally speaking from a script.

01:01:30.180 Yeah, he's speaking from a script.

01:01:31.000 But I will say the thing that felt genuine was at the very end when he said, I owe everything

01:01:35.300 to, I owe everything to Charlie.

01:01:37.060 That's when he went off script.

01:01:38.720 I don't know that they remember or know how to be authentic like that anymore.

01:01:44.480 They're going to find out because I'm very authentic and us having a face-to-face, I think

01:01:50.060 it's the best way to answer this.

01:01:51.140 Look, I came from Turning Point USA.

01:01:53.440 So you guys know that me doing this, there's an element of heartache.

01:01:57.380 Like you don't go into an organization and help to build it up because you one day hope

01:02:01.780 that the founder of it is going to be assassinated so that you can destroy it, the very thing

01:02:07.040 that you helped to build in a very big way.

01:02:09.500 You know, I contributed greatly to Turning Point USA's success and they would never deny

01:02:13.140 that.

01:02:14.000 And so it's sad.

01:02:15.860 It is really sad to see this sort of elitist direction that they're taking in, oh, we thought

01:02:20.980 you guys would be smarter than to listen to her.

01:02:23.040 Oh, you guys are Antifa.

01:02:24.200 What is that?

01:02:25.420 It's such crap.

01:02:26.980 James Gray writes, sorry, I read that one.

01:02:30.180 Tara writes, licensed psychotherapist here.

01:02:33.120 This is obviously an attempt to psychologically manipulate and a terrible one at that.

01:02:37.180 I would gladly put my license on the line at this point to help in even the smallest

01:02:40.500 of ways holding you and your family in prayer, Candace.

01:02:42.780 Keep up the prayers.

01:02:44.560 Keep up the prayers.

01:02:46.780 Brittany Watson writes, Candace, you are not just going Max, you are going scorched earth.

01:02:50.640 And after watching Monday's episode, when you said that you are not some basic B.I., I

01:02:55.480 was like, girl, take my money.

01:02:56.640 Thank you for being the world's best crime fighting superhero.

01:02:59.640 You know, I always think back to this interview that Kanye gave before I knew who he was.

01:03:05.420 And I always loved Kanye.

01:03:07.380 I loved his music.

01:03:08.080 I loved the code of his music, which is you have to believe in yourself because the whole

01:03:11.160 world is going to tell you you can't.

01:03:12.940 And as soon as you step into the arena and you think you've won and you start having any

01:03:17.040 modicum of success, the pressure actually only levels up.

01:03:20.260 And people that you thought that you would be allies with, you find to be your enemies,

01:03:23.480 like that's kind of the coded message of Kanye's music.

01:03:26.100 But there's this interview that he gives where he says somebody, I don't know what they asked

01:03:31.720 him, but he responds and he says, you know, if you're a fan of Kanye West, you're not a

01:03:35.800 fan of Kanye West.

01:03:36.680 You're actually a fan of yourself.

01:03:39.520 You believe in yourself and you think that you can you can do something in this world.

01:03:42.860 And I feel the same way.

01:03:45.360 I think that the people who think that they're fans of mine, you're not fans of Candace.

01:03:51.400 You believe in yourself.

01:03:52.560 You believe that we can actually change things and you believe that you should be able to

01:03:56.920 fight for truth and you're not going to be influenced by people that are taking money

01:04:01.400 to make videos and say things like there's that thing, there's that spark inside of you.

01:04:05.120 It's kind of what I got when Kanye said that it's not me.

01:04:07.660 It's the spark that you see in me.

01:04:08.860 It's the audacity to be yourself and to think your own thoughts and to keep going.

01:04:12.840 When the whole world tells you, tells you no.

01:04:14.920 So that's how I feel.

01:04:17.140 Candace go max.

01:04:18.180 I love that someone picked up that name as their username.

01:04:21.560 Thanks for the honest investigations.

01:04:23.080 The truth shall set us all free.

01:04:25.060 Thanks for the USS Liberty episode as well.

01:04:27.560 To this day, the best interview that we have ever given.

01:04:30.980 We were all you could feel a spiritual movement in this room when we interviewed Phil Turney of

01:04:38.680 the USS Liberty.

01:04:39.440 I'll never forget that interview.

01:04:40.440 It transformed me.

01:04:41.560 It was a major turning point in my life.

01:04:44.180 And thank you guys more.

01:04:46.280 I mean, I'm so grateful to you guys.

01:04:47.820 And I hope you know that I start all of my prayers with gratitude because I started realizing

01:04:52.680 that sometimes when you pray, you're asking for a lot.

01:04:55.900 But if you start with gratitude of the things that you're thankful for, like, you know,

01:04:59.260 you come to God and you're like, I would like, I'm grateful for my health.

01:05:02.240 I'm grateful for this.

01:05:03.420 By the time you get through all the things that you're grateful for, you're like, man,

01:05:06.500 do I really want to lodge any complaints?

01:05:08.100 It's a good way to pray.

01:05:09.920 And I always say that I am grateful for the people around the world that believed in me

01:05:13.760 and that continue to believe in me.

01:05:16.500 And yeah, sometimes I make mistakes.

01:05:18.560 I get time zones wrong.

01:05:19.980 But at least you guys can see that my heart is in the right place.

01:05:22.140 And I really do just genuinely want the answers.

01:05:24.000 So I'm glad that we are, at long last, going to get them from Turning Point USA, it sounds

01:05:30.180 like.

01:05:30.460 Like I said, I'll do this tomorrow.

01:05:32.440 I don't have to be in person.

01:05:33.660 We can live stream this.

01:05:34.620 I think the people trust me to represent all of the questions that we have.

01:05:39.820 And we can have the money, go to Turning Point USA, every dollar that's raised.

01:05:44.340 I would gladly sacrifice that to the organization.

01:05:47.540 That's how much it means to just be able to get these questions answered.

01:05:51.520 Anyways, you guys, we will see you tomorrow.

01:05:54.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

Candace Owens - December 03, 2025

BREAKING： TPUSA Throws Down The Gauntlet! Publicly Invites Me To Ask Questions. ｜ Candace Ep 273

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