Candace Owens - Woah： It Was Erika Kirk Who Called For TPUSA To Invite Me!？｜ Candace Ep 275

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00:00:15.080 All right, you guys. Happy Friday. Welcome to the end of the week. Get excited because the

00:00:20.340 rapper, The Game, has dropped his song entitled The Assassination of Candace Owens and the lyrics

00:00:25.600 are, in fact, fantastic because even the hip-hop world is asking questions and noticing that

00:00:31.700 Turning Point is not acting right. It's because you guys are just not acting right. Well, guess

00:00:37.100 what? Something interesting has taken place this morning. TPUSA confirmed that the debate

00:00:42.120 request and the sit-down request to respond to all of our very many questions actually

00:00:48.300 came from Erica Kirk. They said that request was directed by Erica Kirk and I find that

00:00:54.720 to be compelling. And they also explained why it has to be in person. And I am curious

00:01:01.640 to play that clip for you to see if you believe and accept their explanation, their reason why.

00:01:08.720 Also, I have probably looked at more footage from September 10th than any human being in

00:01:14.680 the government or otherwise, anybody on this planet. And I happened to take note of something

00:01:22.100 that I find to be quite strange. And I want to toss it to you guys because the public is more

00:01:27.960 perceptive and capable than our FBI. So let's jump right into this. Welcome back to Candace. 0.99

00:01:32.540 Okay, we're going to do something different and actually begin today's episode with comments

00:01:51.340 from yesterday's episode because they are extremely, extremely relevant. And they're also hilarious to

00:01:57.200 what we were about to discuss. People who watch the show are obviously savages, absolute savages. 0.97

00:02:01.820 And obviously yesterday we were discussing how they rescinded the offer because it had to be in

00:02:08.840 person. Look at this comment. Top comment. TPUSA takes them three months to respond. Also TPUSA,

00:02:16.600 you have 24 hours to respond. Like what? Seriously, where did this 24 hour thing come from and why was it

00:02:25.080 necessary? The second comment, this user writes, Tyler Robinson can appear in court by video

00:02:31.580 conference. But Turning Point USA says Candace cannot attend their debate by similar means. 0.81

00:02:37.020 Yeah, guys, we are starting to notice some things. It's weird. And we announced or it was announced

00:02:44.880 today that Charlie Kirk's show, which they are continuing and which once upon a time enjoyed the

00:02:50.800 number one spot on Apple podcasts has now plummeted. Right. This is a tweet breaking news. The Charlie Kirk show

00:02:57.780 has crashed in the rankings, falling to number 94 on Apple podcasts, even though it routinely held the

00:03:04.380 top 10 spot in the past and even reached number one when Kirk was alive. The reason for that is simple.

00:03:10.040 It is clear. People are telling you how they feel and they feel that you are not being honest.

00:03:15.840 They feel that they are not getting the truth from the very people who keep trying to market themselves

00:03:20.780 as his closest friends. And I'm saying marketing intentionally because it feels as though they

00:03:25.820 have transformed into a badly run PR firm from the early 2000s, where you try to use celebrities to

00:03:33.300 influence the public and get like, you know, Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake to wear your denim.

00:03:38.280 Everybody just then starts wearing denim. Right. And I will add on to this that I certainly myself

00:03:46.080 am compelled. I would say that's an interesting twist in this debate story, if we're even calling

00:03:53.440 it a debate offer. At least I was surprised. I was legitimately surprised to hear this morning

00:03:58.800 that it was apparently Erica Kirk who called for TPUSA to formally respond to the mounting questions

00:04:05.740 and to set the live stream. At least that's what Blake Neff is saying on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:04:10.740 They received this morning phone calls from the viewers at home. And of course, somebody asked

00:04:17.640 about the nature of how they went about trying to get me onto this live stream. Let's take a listen

00:04:26.700 to that question being asked, I think, from a woman named Gina. Let's take a listen.

00:04:33.640 Let's take Gina's question. Gina, welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. What's your question?

00:04:38.340 Hey, thanks guys. Um, can you hear me? Okay. Yes, we can. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Um, my heart's broken

00:04:47.260 with the things that are going on with Candace and I'm trying to make it all come together. I'm not,

00:04:55.500 I'm sure I'm not your only fan that is trying to do that. Um, because of the relationship that she had

00:05:01.500 with Charlie. Um, and one thing that I'm just trying to make come together in my head is why

00:05:08.220 the invitation was extended to Candace, but not to Candace directly. Blake, I think you tweeted

00:05:15.560 something out and I don't know if, you know, I don't know what's truth and what's not, but I do know

00:05:22.040 that she said she, she didn't even see the invitation and it was issued Blake, I think at 12 on a tweet

00:05:28.100 that you had, but, or at midnight, 12, not noon midnight. And so it was like nine hours later

00:05:34.820 before she even knew that you said anything about her attending the show. And then she's saying she

00:05:39.820 can't attend in person. Can she attend on a live stream or, you know, and, and you guys do live

00:05:45.680 streams all the time. And is that going to be an option? I'm just trying to make this come together.

00:05:50.900 Of course, Gina. So first of all, uh, our initial statement, it was on the show on Wednesday. Uh,

00:05:56.660 I made it at, at the request of Erica. All of this has been, uh, at the direction and approval of,

00:06:02.420 of Erica, uh, because she heads this. And so we, what we were announcing there is we said,

00:06:08.180 she has said things that are not true and we did not address them for a long time. We stated the

00:06:16.380 reasons why that we thought a lot of them were just not, we, how to put it, we initially just

00:06:26.500 thought no one would believe a lot of what was being said. And we also just, we, we remembered

00:06:31.320 the same friendship that Charlie had. And we just hoped that this would go away without requiring

00:06:36.240 any sort of direct statement or confrontation from us. So what was approved is we announced,

00:06:42.780 we are going to respond to this. And what I said was, we are going to announce a date soon. We

00:06:47.900 actually hadn't agreed on it at the time I read the statement. We're going to announce a date where

00:06:52.120 we're going to respond to this. And once we announce it, Candace is free to attend in person.

00:06:57.580 That is what we announced. And so once we agreed on a time, I announced what the time was going to be.

00:07:03.320 Candace for her part had said, you name the time, you name the place. That is what we did. Uh,

00:07:09.900 as for why it was put out at that time, I would just say, I don't think she had any difficulty in

00:07:15.800 finding out what our, what our scheduled time was. It seems everyone found it out quite quickly.

00:07:21.920 And lastly, on the point of why it's in person, I think it's pretty intuitive that given what is

00:07:30.600 being said, what the way this has worked is that it's critical to be in person. If you want to be

00:07:37.080 authentic and to be detailed. And that is what we think is a fair request to make if she's going to

00:07:44.520 participate. But regardless, it is going to go forward because we have agreed that some response

00:07:50.940 needs to be made. And so that's going to happen when we announced it on December 15th.

00:07:57.960 Yeah. And we actually got to hit it. I'm one person, but yeah, Gina, I'm sorry. We got to hit

00:08:03.340 a radio break here. We can keep going in the, in the break if you want for, uh, for, if you have a

00:08:07.420 follow-up, um, we, uh, we'll, we'll be right back. We're going to take a break from radio. We'll be right back.

00:08:14.520 So I love situational irony like that, where he is actually live streaming with Andrew Colbett.

00:08:22.940 It's like, it's not authentic unless it's, it's a person is in person and Andrew Colbett is literally

00:08:29.160 not in person as he's answering those questions. So I guess the show is not authentic or something.

00:08:33.000 I also love Blake because he's trying so hard not to be condescending in that bit.

00:08:36.660 It doesn't come naturally to him. He's extremely condescending. His obvious, uh,

00:08:40.900 uh, how do I say this? Um, we're shocked that you guys believe Candace. We're just very shocked,

00:08:47.400 you dummies. And his excuse is that the reason he did this in the middle of the night on X is that 0.92

00:08:56.960 that's, it's to be expected as if that's some sort of normal etiquette. Once you extend an offer,

00:09:03.200 not only do you extend an offer, you say that it's a sincere offer. He used the word

00:09:07.380 sincere. And when she is trying to get around to, Hey, like, why does this need to be in person?

00:09:14.540 Just to be clear, Blake is saying the answer to that is quote unquote, it's intuitive that it is

00:09:21.740 critical to be in person. If you want to be authentic, let me just run that sentence again,

00:09:28.600 because I consider myself to be pretty intuitive. Um, I am intuiting right now that that is absolute

00:09:33.380 bullcrap. He says, quote, it's intuitive that it is critical to be in person. If you want to be 0.69

00:09:43.560 authentic. Yeah. They think you're stupid. They just think you're, you're absolutely an idiot.

00:09:48.940 And he says that that's fair. What are you talking about? My most contentious and my most viral 1.00

00:09:53.780 debates have never been in person. Everyone assumes that when you extend an invite that you're going to

00:09:58.980 do whatever you can to make it happen, whether it's friendly, whether it's not friendly, when you

00:10:03.120 say, and when you come out and you say that you are live streaming, the assumption is that you are

00:10:07.480 live streaming because you want the internet to be able to attend, right? That's the whole purpose and

00:10:13.040 function of live streaming an event is that it invites everybody to be able to attend. So when you

00:10:17.740 extend an invitation of live streaming and you don't explicitly say it must be in person,

00:10:22.780 why would I assume that you're going to rescind the offer if I say that I could appear via live

00:10:28.800 stream? Okay. They never said that when they made the offer and they were pretending that they were

00:10:34.140 being sincere. They never made in person a point of their demands. They never also said that I had to

00:10:41.640 respond within 24 hours. That's a hostage situation. Okay. There's no way that I could have accommodated

00:10:48.020 all of that in a million years, 24 hours to respond. How about, hmm, let me see if I can make

00:10:53.440 that work. Even if I could have made it work, which I couldn't have because my husband instantly

00:10:56.380 said, no, you cannot do this Monday. And he runs the household and he has an important thing going on

00:11:04.120 that day, which involves people that are coming in from overseas. But even if I could have made that

00:11:08.800 work, I would not have within 24 hours have confirmed to them if they had even sent me an email

00:11:12.600 because I have kids. I would have had organized things and it would have just taken longer than 24

00:11:17.440 hours. And they knew that. What Blake did say verbatim on that day is, quote, here is what is

00:11:24.740 going to happen. In the near future, there will be a live stream here in Phoenix. So we're assuming

00:11:30.500 they're live streaming from Phoenix, where we address in a clear and comprehensive way the claims

00:11:36.980 and the accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlie's family, friends,

00:11:42.300 and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and

00:11:47.180 thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that

00:11:54.040 live stream at our studio in Phoenix. Not a demand to be there in person, live streams happening at

00:12:01.220 your studio. And you said that this was a sincere request, then you went about it in the opposite

00:12:05.500 manner, which is why it makes it really interesting that he says in the beginning that that was done at

00:12:11.940 the request, at the direction, and with the approval of Erica. And that's interesting for a lot of

00:12:16.240 reasons. A, I think a lot of us have been wondering, like, did she take on this role and she's actually

00:12:22.000 executing? Are we still going through a transition phase? Is she still learning the part? How involved

00:12:26.580 is she on a day-to-day basis? Because some of these actions seem like fumbles, like absolute

00:12:32.120 fumbles. And you're wondering, is Andrew Colbatt running things? Is Tyler Boyer running things?

00:12:36.240 Is this coming from Erica Kirk? Because I don't, I'm having trouble, I guess, comprehending why she

00:12:44.820 would green light something that the internet has now read as incredibly insincere. Of course it's

00:12:50.740 insincere. You know, you market yourself as somebody that is passionate about family, and we can't even

00:12:59.320 get 24 hours to see if we can make things work and exchange things. Like, that doesn't feel honest.

00:13:05.220 That doesn't, that didn't come across as honest. And you're telling us, or we're assuming from that

00:13:10.300 statement that she approved the statement that went out, referring to people as Antifa members, like

00:13:15.880 making us akin to a basket of deplorables because we don't accept the Fed slop. Like, that got her 1.00

00:13:21.400 approval to go out. Like, this was read by Erica. That doesn't feel good, you know? And the reality

00:13:27.520 is, is if you deeply care about the legacy of Turning Point USA, as you all claim that you do, like you

00:13:35.280 claim that you're really just in this, Blake Neff and Andrew Colbatt, because we were his best friends and

00:13:40.080 we love him, then how can you treat people who are genuinely people just like Gina, donors to

00:13:46.960 Turning Point USA, people who got behind Turning Point USA, people who have photos of them going to

00:13:50.560 Turning Point USA events, who probably have tickets to go to AmFest, how can you treat people with such

00:13:55.480 contempt? How could you think they're dumb enough to believe that that was a sincere offer, that that's 0.95

00:14:01.080 how it's supposed to work, that that's ever in the history ever of people setting up debates, that 0.96

00:14:06.900 that's ever been how it's worked, that someone just arbitrarily picks a time and a place. And you

00:14:13.100 admit you had no time and you did not have a date picked. So there's no reason you couldn't come to

00:14:18.880 me and say, here's two dates that could work, and allowed me to do that. And by the way, I would still

00:14:24.280 like for you guys to do that. Okay. And one more thing I want to put out there, because your 24 hour

00:14:30.020 demand is ridiculous. It's silly. Okay, let's strip it. Let's not pretend that I there's some buzzard that 0.99

00:14:35.380 got hit, we can still make this work. And I would like to make this work. And I would especially like to make

00:14:40.080 this work if you are saying or implying that Erica Kirk is going to be there. Because the reality is

00:14:47.860 that would be a game changer. I think that's a game changer. I think it would be very powerful to

00:14:55.540 have her there to represent the viewpoints in a way that they're maybe not being shared by Blake Neff,

00:15:02.360 who is incredibly unlikable and speaks down to people. And I don't know why he does that.

00:15:08.820 It's not coming across clearly from your spokesperson, Andrew Colvatt, who seems to be

00:15:14.460 on the road and isn't course correcting and the attitudes that are coming out or at least telling

00:15:19.400 people not to be like late night tweeting like Tyler Boyer. And yeah, it would be great if you are

00:15:25.080 saying that on the 15th, Erica Kirk, as you are insinuating that she's going to be there, right?

00:15:32.440 She's she's directing this thing. Are you implying here that she's going to actually be in the chair

00:15:37.240 and she's willing to allow me to bring things and to go over timelines and stuff? Like, can you make

00:15:45.500 that offer through the proper channels? Can you actually say that since you now have more details

00:15:50.760 about how it's going to work and reopen that offer again? There is no way in hell that George can make

00:15:58.840 the 15th work. I just said it. No, he shut it down immediately. And with a for a very valid reason.

00:16:05.560 And it is not my inclination to go to Phoenix without having my team with me. And my husband

00:16:14.620 is very much a part of my team. But I will say that I will raise it further with the Supreme Court

00:16:22.540 of George Farber. If you are insinuating and actually if you can confirm that you are saying

00:16:29.980 that you will allow me, as you said further in this, to bring whatever it is, because it would

00:16:35.560 be more authentic if it was face to face. If you're saying that I don't have to deal with you and this

00:16:40.960 is actually going to be very open and I can ask every question under the sun, I might beg, you know,

00:16:46.340 I might beg. So I would love to hear from Turning Point USA and stop pretending 24 hours

00:16:50.780 was some like demand that had to be met because that's ridiculous. So ball very much back into

00:16:56.900 your court. And like I said, I want to make this happen. I still think you guys can open up for a

00:17:01.160 live stream. Like you're doing that right now. That seems ridiculous as well. Let's make this work

00:17:06.440 for the people. Anyways, you guys diving back into our investigation. Okay, I got something very

00:17:11.440 interesting for you. Now, it is actually common sense that has been guiding this investigation

00:17:15.760 the entire time, despite the federal insistence that we pretend we don't have any.

00:17:20.180 And I think there's a compelling element that we should follow here. If we believe and know and

00:17:28.300 have the intuition that this is a deep state assassination, I do. Okay. And we know that our

00:17:36.800 deep state, the CIA is involved in color revolutions all around the world. We should think about how they

00:17:42.460 organize the revolutions, right? What does it actually entail? How does our military accomplish that?

00:17:47.780 Through what means? Okay. And I think it's obvious that they accomplish that through organized chaos.

00:17:57.040 The chaos, as chaotic as the event may seem, has to actually be organized if this is military. It means

00:18:03.720 that as a state, we fund and then we coordinate protests. And coordinating is the operative word.

00:18:10.640 It has to look organic to the untrained eye. You have to actually make sure that people will believe

00:18:18.140 when they read the New York Times, when they read AP News or Reuters, that all of this just happened.

00:18:26.260 Like back in 2014, the Ukrainians were authentically and truly just done with their president, 0.97

00:18:33.620 Yanukovych. And when John McCain went over there and led the protesters in the streets,

00:18:39.920 he was really representing the voice of the people. It was not another United States military

00:18:44.360 color revolution. By the way, if you have not seen that, this is what we do all around the world.

00:18:49.580 You should just, I'm just going to play a little bit of this. John McCain addressing protesters in

00:18:54.040 Ukraine before we overthrew their president. Take a listen.

00:18:57.420 This is about the future you want for your country. This is about the future you deserve.

00:19:24.380 It's about your future. It's about the future of your country. It's about the future you deserve.

00:19:32.720 A future in Europe.

00:19:34.400 A future of peace.

00:19:37.600 A future of peace.

00:19:38.480 With relations with all of your neighbors.

00:19:40.920 Okay.

00:19:41.180 All right. That's enough. I don't know why we're like this. I really don't know why we're like this.

00:19:47.900 Anyways, I believe in my heart and in my rational mind as well that Charlie Critch's assassination

00:19:52.140 was about as organic as John McCain. He rest in peace, leading the people of Ukraine. And we got

00:19:59.560 our color revolution and we've been doing corrupt stuff in that region since. Now, I began scanning 0.54

00:20:05.260 the people of the crowd obsessively. Obviously, you should see the folders on my desktop. And I'm

00:20:12.420 referring, of course, now to UVU on September 10th. And there was something that I kept noticing.

00:20:17.800 A weird amount of young men were alone at this event and they were wearing maroon shirts. In fact,

00:20:24.780 so many of these young men that I was coming across were wearing maroon that at first I

00:20:28.700 legitimately assumed that it had to have been one of the UVU colors. I asked this question so

00:20:33.360 innocently. I was like to someone at UVU, I was like, oh, are your school colors maroon?

00:20:37.220 And he comes back and he said, no, they're green and white. So my gut told me, okay, that's interesting

00:20:41.680 because maroon is not exactly a highly ranked color for men, okay? And it can't be that all

00:20:48.020 these men that are wearing maroon also happen to have attended this event alone. So I'm going to

00:20:54.440 show you what I mean. I'm going to go back to some of these people. This is by no means everyone. I'm

00:20:59.080 just showing you a few times here. Here we go. We have this young man. This is after the shot. He's

00:21:04.760 wearing maroon. I'll show you another person here sitting there under the tree after the shot and

00:21:09.800 he's wearing maroon. I'll show you another person here. We're going to come back to this person who

00:21:14.640 is wearing maroon because his dad is going to say something publicly. Three people, one shot,

00:21:20.400 all of them alone wearing maroon. We're going to come back to the guy at the top there who has the

00:21:25.480 hat, the darker hat on, who is wearing maroon. Just like these strapping young men all wearing maroon. 0.98

00:21:30.040 We've got this guy in the bush wearing maroon. I could go on and on. This person

00:21:34.300 of how many people were wearing maroon. I even have a video of someone holding a maroon shirt.

00:21:38.680 Okay. So I mentioned that quite casually and that thing happened where there was an overreaction for

00:21:44.180 no reason online. So I knew that I was on the right track and I should probably keep going.

00:21:48.500 And I said something, I think it was on X and, or maybe it was on the show. And then we received

00:21:54.080 hundreds of emails from people past and presently in the military around the world. And they said,

00:21:59.540 yes, Candace, that is military. I am just going to quote a few emails here. One person

00:22:04.880 wrote, quote, airborne forces wear maroon, not just in the UK, the USA and France, as well as in dozens

00:22:12.740 of other militaries. Another person said, quote, I instantly recall that when police are in undercover

00:22:18.200 units, the FBI, et cetera, and they are not in their uniforms, they often have a color of the day or a

00:22:24.440 unit color. It's a signal to anyone else around that you are with that mission or unit, end quote.

00:22:30.360 Another person wrote, quote, my husband was and led part of the QRF, Quick Reaction Force Team,

00:22:37.020 when they were deployed in Iraq. We're tired now, we are retired now. The maroon color in the military

00:22:42.620 means the color is famously associated with military forces, such as the maroon beret of airborne troops

00:22:49.300 around the world. And another person explained to me that especially in coordinated violent scenes,

00:22:56.940 making sure that people are in certain colors or in something that is identifiable is important

00:23:01.500 so that military men can observe who to protect or who they're looking for. Right. And so that just

00:23:07.440 makes sense. OK. And so, LOL, for all of you guys that were saying I'm stupid, I love being called stupid. 1.00

00:23:13.440 Every time you call me stupid, it's another little clue that I should follow that. 1.00

00:23:17.420 You guys are so obvious. OK. It's the overreaction to simple things. And I feel in my gut that it was 1.00

00:23:22.640 not some random coincidence that so many of these fellas decided to wear maroon on September 10th

00:23:27.640 and attend the Charlie Kirk event. And I feel even more compelled because there was this person on

00:23:33.420 TikTok, you may have seen at the time, who was claiming that he had some videos that someone in

00:23:39.200 his family had shot. And when he submitted them to the FBI, the FBI had asked him to delete that

00:23:45.560 footage. And I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's false. But I do know that when I

00:23:51.400 got in touch with this individual and he sent me the footage, my eye immediately gravitated towards

00:23:56.200 another person who happened to be wearing maroon, who is also alone at the event, who I thought was

00:24:03.100 kind of strange, did not duck when everybody else ducked after the shot went off. I think I had shown

00:24:08.460 you that. I'm going to show it to you again. I know I identified him as a young man named Jacob

00:24:13.000 Kasparian. And I'm going to show you that video of him not ducking after the shot goes off. Take a 0.97

00:24:17.660 look at this. And we're going to circle it so you can see it. Okay, that's him. You're going to see

00:24:25.240 everybody duck. And it's going to come back up. And he's still not going to be ducked. He just kind

00:24:31.820 of hits his phone and walks away. Now, regarding Jacob Kasparian, I want to be very clear. I do not

00:24:37.780 think he shot Charlie Kirk because it's really fashionable for people to say that we are accusing

00:24:43.140 everyone of shooting Charlie Kirk. No, I am observing some things that strike me as unusual.

00:24:49.620 And it's unusual that he attended the event alone. It is unusual to me that after researching him,

00:24:56.440 he had posted himself earlier that day at either 8.42 a.m. or 7.42 a.m. I'm unclear on whether or not

00:25:03.980 Facebook is editing the time zones according to what I'm in, the time zone I'm in, or when it was

00:25:09.600 shot. But he's wearing an entirely different shirt earlier that day. It's a dyed blue shirt.

00:25:14.880 And then he arrives, when he arrives to UVU campus, he kind of hits certain points. He's up high.

00:25:20.800 And then he's at the lower rung. Two minutes before Charlie gets shot, he's not where he is.

00:25:25.700 And then the next thing you know, he's there. And the reason why he's not moving is because he's

00:25:30.380 recording and he doesn't duck. And I just found that to be a bit interesting. And I can show you,

00:25:36.660 by the way, this is a very grainy image of him recording. You can, we're kind of circling it

00:25:42.160 there. It's okay if you can't see it. We've hyperimposed. But I just found it odd thereafter

00:25:47.640 that nobody, despite him being there witnessing it and having recorded, by the way, Charlie getting

00:25:51.820 shot, none of his family members posted anything about Charlie's assassination. He is active. He did not

00:25:56.900 post about Charlie's assassination. It happened in their backyard. It was a global event. No comment

00:26:01.920 whatsoever that I could find. And I started to wonder, based on where I found these individuals

00:26:07.860 in the audience, I started to suspect, and this is my broader suspicion and theory, which in any

00:26:14.540 investigation you're allowed to do. It might turn out to be wrong. But I am beginning to suspect that

00:26:19.360 our maroon boys in general were tasked with taking footage from predetermined angles. Again,

00:26:26.000 it's a suspicion. I'd like to explore it. And the easiest way for me to explore things and rule

00:26:30.220 things out is to open things up to the public. I would like to see if anybody recognizes and can

00:26:35.220 identify these other maroon boys, because maybe I can determine what their extracurricular activities

00:26:39.960 are. Are they all in the ROTC? As an example, I'm going off of internet vibes. They could be a part of

00:26:47.720 an airborne force, okay? And it was even more compelling because there was this guy who live

00:26:55.280 streamed the whole event. We all know who I'm speaking about. His name is Adam Bartholomew.

00:26:58.640 I have never, ever said anything about Adam Bartholomew. I have reviewed his footage.

00:27:03.480 But people online were clocking him as suspicious. They're like, this guy just always happened to be

00:27:08.460 in the right place at the right time. And he has been randomly attacking me. Again, I've never said

00:27:13.200 anything about him. And one of the ways that he instantly attacked was when I mentioned the maroon

00:27:19.260 thing. And he said, my son was wearing maroon on that day. And his son was. That's the person that

00:27:24.800 we showed you. That's Adam and that's his son. Yeah, that only makes it more compelling because

00:27:29.780 you were capturing footage on that day. So I'd like to know more. And I also find it strange,

00:27:35.420 I will say about Adam Bartholomew, that when the shot rings out, he's live streaming, okay?

00:27:39.900 And he does not stop live streaming to run down and ensure that his wife, who was in the audience,

00:27:49.960 okay, was okay. He did the iPhone. When I learned by accident that his wife was there,

00:27:55.460 his wife Carrie was there, and she was standing by the bush, actually almost directly near Jordan

00:28:03.920 Kasparian, he, I would have expected him to be like, oh my gosh, after he says, what is that?

00:28:08.920 Is my wife okay? Oh my God, where is she? Where's Carrie? Nope. Nope. She tweeted that photo of 1.00

00:28:14.440 herself and she confirmed in her own X feed that she was, I am more than I ever been is what her

00:28:23.740 tweet says. When we thought laying in the courtyard that we were about to get shot in the back or in

00:28:27.380 the head, it was very clear that we were on the right side. She confirms by picture and by tweet

00:28:31.340 where she was when that shot went off. And yet he mysteriously was not panicked to go find his wife.

00:28:35.520 Odd, weird. And I have a suspicion about the Maroon Boys. I think all of our footage has come from 1.00

00:28:40.760 Maroon Boys. And a lot of that footage was then algorithmically boosted. And so I would like to

00:28:46.980 again show you the pictures of these men. And by the way, guys, there's going to be someone that

00:28:51.540 just gets clawed in here who just happened to wear a maroon shirt that day. I am sure. If that is you,

00:28:56.120 please just write to me and let me know. Like, no, Candace, I go to UVU. And this is just a shirt I put

00:29:00.500 on. They do look military to me. I will say that. And like these three, I just, it's something that

00:29:07.080 I've noticed. And then obviously we know Tyler Robinson notoriously was wearing a maroon shirt.

00:29:11.460 Could be Boy Scouts, could be ROTC, could be Eagle Scouts, could very much be Airborne. So if you guys

00:29:17.900 know anything, please email us. Again, if you recognize these people, I don't want your broader

00:29:22.400 thoughts on the color maroon. But if you recognize these individuals in particular,

00:29:26.420 more tips at CandaceOwens.com. Okay. And then I'm going to tell you somebody that actually do

00:29:32.720 think is suspicious on that day. And I need to know everything about him. But first, let's get to

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00:31:46.520 We are not, um, I wanted to introduce you guys, by the way, to somebody that I do think

00:31:52.020 is extremely shady, okay? Extremely suspicious to me, and I can give you a variety of reasons,

00:31:58.760 but I'd rather just ask for your help in, um, let me give you something explicit. I would like to

00:32:05.180 see footage of him, period, point blank, who he was with in the crowd. I'm starting to, like,

00:32:12.260 identify every person there. That's where I'm at. Like, I'm micromanaging. Like, I'm, I'm doing my

00:32:16.980 best carrot over here. I would like to even find him on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination

00:32:23.020 in the crowd, okay? His name is Emanuel Bierer, and there are a million and one reasons why I wanted

00:32:29.820 to know more about him. Um, look, he's a former employee of Oracle. He's in engineering. Uh, I

00:32:36.680 believe he's from Germany, from what I looked into. Uh, he's a software engineer, and he attended the

00:32:44.380 event, but somehow I don't see any photos of him at the event, and he was plucked from obscurity

00:32:49.200 by the mainstream media as an eyewitness in Salt Lake City. Like, they went to film him in Salt

00:32:55.100 Lake City. I just would like to know how these media requests came about. Like, did he tweet

00:33:00.760 something and you knew he was there? Like, actually, if you are PBS, which I'm about to show you a clip

00:33:05.200 of him speaking on PBS, how did you know to reach out to this man? That's the first question I'd like

00:33:10.500 to have answered, right? Because I'm thinking if I'm sending people down, I'm not sending them to Salt

00:33:16.020 Lake City, right? I'm going to send people, uh, a truck down, a news truck down to UVU campus.

00:33:22.060 I'm going to go around and try to speak to people on campus organically, people that are students

00:33:26.660 and attended this event, uh, without a connection, which ended up being with Tiffany Barker's

00:33:31.220 situation where she said, oh, I was friends with, uh, you know, Jeff Lehman, and that's the reason

00:33:36.300 that I was able to get the news hit in the morning. How did Emanuel Beer get picked out in Salt

00:33:42.640 Lake City? Okay. I am going to let you listen to him speak and what he testified to on that day.

00:33:49.980 Take a listen. I hear this loud sound and I'm like, that wasn't what I thought it was, is it?

00:33:54.960 I was like, no, this can't be happening right now. And we all ducked.

00:34:01.220 Okay. So yeah, they had him on basically every news channel. I think there is a longer clip

00:34:05.640 and I might be able to find it, but I, yeah, I would like to find him. So if you attended the UVU

00:34:12.600 event and you went with Emanuel, maybe you are Emanuel and you are watching this and, uh, you would

00:34:18.980 like to clarify who you were with and send some photos and some pictures and also explain to me

00:34:22.540 how you became an eyewitness that all the mainstream media wanted to speak to. I would deeply appreciate

00:34:28.920 that because I find that be suspicious. I just do. Um, anyways, you guys, in other news,

00:34:35.100 the game dropped his album, his mixtape with the song, the assassination of Candace Owens on it,

00:34:41.620 because game going to recognize game. And I'm going to play for you guys and probably get hit

00:34:46.900 for it. A couple of, we'll play like 10 seconds of the song. And then I'll just kind of go over

00:34:52.580 these lyrics from the second verse, which I think are actually really powerful. Take a listen.

00:34:58.000 Here we go. Okay. I'm going to read this to you guys. So he says, let that woman speak her truth

00:35:21.060 and I will love her like my mama, love her like Kamala, love her like Obama. Truth is, truth hurts.

00:35:26.100 It's like a neck shot who really killed Charlie Kirk. Okay. That is the truth. The truth does

00:35:30.480 hurt. And people want to know who killed Charlie Kirk. This next line is just absolutely, I think,

00:35:35.740 destructive to Turning Point USA as an organization. He goes on and he writes,

00:35:39.900 uh, his body is not yet settled in the dirt. Why are you carrying on like that? Are you an Andre 3000

00:35:46.340 diverse? Okay. So that's a reference to outcast and they are known for making their verses really

00:35:52.420 long. They're very lyrical and poetic. And so that's the vibe coming at Turning Point USA

00:35:57.920 from the hip hop community. How are you guys just going on? Like an Andre 3000 verse, who killed Charlie

00:36:05.980 Kirk? That to me is the ultimate referendum on what Turning Point USA is doing. It literally,

00:36:13.220 even a blind man can see what we are all seeing. And yet you're trying to gaslight us into pretending

00:36:19.340 like it's just all regular and that we are the bad guys. He goes on and he says, we live in an era

00:36:24.360 where I can't say the N word twerk. And we live in an era where they pull wallets up out they purse. 0.61

00:36:30.660 But I was raised in Zion and Naz I am. And if I'm lying low, throw me in a den with the lions

00:36:36.340 and five YNs. I think that's, uh, that's a gang. I'm sorry. I'm not, I'm not up to date on, um, 1.00

00:36:41.580 gang stuff. Either way behind these bars is shots flying. Decapitate, decapitate,

00:36:46.880 you sold called goats without trying go head to head with CNN while bumping CNN leave in France. 0.99

00:36:52.400 I'm still alive. Some I won't see again. Speak my truth until I'm in the position that she is in

00:36:57.140 moral to the story. Be cautious who you believe in. I love this. It's so great. I love the

00:37:01.280 incorporated France into this. And what he's saying obviously is like you, you, you have to

00:37:06.240 fight these so-called goats. And honestly, they are like Baphomet worshipers. Okay. The goat thing

00:37:11.460 is I get what he's doing here. He is being punny in all the right ways. And you somehow by speaking

00:37:18.600 the truth, you become a threat and they want to kill you. Like they want to assassinate you. And 0.98

00:37:22.800 they're laughing. You, they, they send out these nerds to laugh at you when you say that. And you

00:37:27.940 don't know if you're, you're like people like lay low, lay low. Like you shouldn't even go

00:37:31.800 turning point USA. What am I doing? I'm just telling the truth. And he's saying all of this to say,

00:37:37.860 we're all going, like we all should be putting ourselves in this position to speak the truth.

00:37:43.380 And the moral of the story is that we should be very cautious in who we believe in. And I think

00:37:46.880 that that is how we all, um, are feeling right now. Like we are suddenly recognizing that these,

00:37:52.920 this authority is arbitrary, kind of the most grotesque, perverse humans that you could possibly 0.63

00:37:59.940 imagine. I don't even think they're humans, to be honest, they're subhuman, um, happen to be running 0.94

00:38:03.640 the world. For whatever reason, our governments think that it is a dramatic ask. Like we're,

00:38:10.880 we are, we're almost saying it's okay. We'll be employees and debt slaves, uh, for the rest of

00:38:17.380 our lives. We'll get back to work and we'll pay absurd taxes every day. Can you guys please just

00:38:21.700 leave kids alone? And our government's like, can't do that. Sorry. Could you please just not poison us?

00:38:29.100 Governments like, sorry, we can't do that. You guys are asking for way too much. You're listening

00:38:35.120 to too much Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. It's too much. So you guys, how could you, how could you

00:38:39.500 think that we don't have a right to poison you, um, and to poison the minds of your children? It is, 0.69

00:38:44.600 like I said, uh, I think such a, a good commentary. I'm gonna say enough things today. I hope I didn't

00:38:50.560 say gun stuff. I don't, I'm not in any gangs, but I'm a gangster. Yeah, I'm a gangster. I think so.

00:38:55.660 So anyways, if you guys would, um, like to toss him some support and just to appreciate that we're

00:39:03.300 at a moment where hopefully when he says like, I was raised listening to Nas, what he means is like

00:39:07.700 real hip hop. Right. And, uh, people that were actually commenting on the state of things in an

00:39:14.580 intellectual way. It's actually why I loved Jay-Z's music when I was growing up and I kind of hated what

00:39:20.220 he became it. I think it is also reflective for black America because so much we have been kind of

00:39:25.960 transformed into the ultimate slaves of Baphomet, like this idea of freedom where I think we're all

00:39:32.500 realizing, realizing right now we're not free. Like we are all slaves and they give us products and

00:39:36.820 iPhones and flat screen TVs and Hollywood and the Kardashians. And we're supposed to think that that's

00:39:46.220 glamour and it's glitz. And that means that we're in a golden era. Nope, nope, nope. I think that

00:39:50.940 there was not an enlightenment, but there was a darkening of mankind and America is going to have

00:39:56.060 to wake up real quick. So thank you for putting Charlie Kirk, memorializing him in that song to

00:40:00.340 the game. Hopefully, um, next time we do it, I'll, I can be on the verse. Just like maybe just one

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00:43:31.200 We're shipping to Canada. Thank you, Skylar. That's a good idea. It'd be weird if they bought

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00:44:23.880 Laughing Cats writes, that's by the way, a very big donation. Thank you. Holla at Our Girl Candice

00:44:28.840 supporting her, y'all. I think we need to remind the world that a news station at the CK Memorial

00:44:34.020 talked to attendees for three hours and none of them believed the FBI narrative. TPUSA can blame you

00:44:40.600 all they want, but you are not changing minds. You are speaking to ours. That is so well said.

00:44:45.180 Thank you for writing that because I feel like I'm becoming a punching bag. All I'm doing is I'm

00:44:50.760 voicing how everyone feels. Like I said, did I collaborate with the game to do the song?

00:44:56.200 Everyone knows that what is being told to us is completely ridiculous. Let me just tell you guys

00:45:01.320 something else that I forgot to mention. So remember, there's only two videos of the

00:45:06.660 quote-unquote shooter on the roof, one which was shot from the side where you see somebody

00:45:11.360 crouched down holding a gun. Well, I had a follow-up call with the person who shot that video

00:45:15.960 and I asked him, I was like, can you confirm that you actually saw him take the shot? Because

00:45:21.720 literally he's recording him at 1223, right? He said, no, I didn't see him take the shot.

00:45:27.240 I never saw any recoil. This guy has experience in guns. He teaches people to shoot guns.

00:45:31.180 And he said, and I did not say that that was, remember, he told us early on, that's not the

00:45:35.900 person that I saw. I saw somebody in tactical gear and I have seen so much about people saying,

00:45:41.860 yeah, this is the video. I've seen so many people debating whether or not he put the gun back

00:45:47.520 together. He's like, I can say that none of that happened. So I asked him, did Tyler Robinson's

00:45:51.260 defense lawyer reach out to you? No. Have the feds reached out to you since I called you? No.

00:45:55.980 Are you, there's only two people that have cameras of this person on the roof and you are telling me

00:46:03.580 that he hasn't been like automatically subpoenaed into the court case. Again, every layer of this

00:46:09.960 is BS and we know it. And you can't just, you know, spit in our faces and tell us that it's raining.

00:46:17.620 And that's what it feels like they're trying to do. Uh, Curbster writes, so the best spokesman at

00:46:23.160 TPUSA, oh, the best spokesman, pardon that TPUSA has to present a BS invitation to CO is a guy who

00:46:30.460 was fired by Tucker Carlson for racist remarks. No wonder TPUSA is failing. No one is buying it.

00:46:35.420 None of them deserved to breathe the same air as Charlie, much less call him their friend.

00:46:39.780 Um, I, I actually, someone, a few of you have commented about, I actually didn't know that

00:46:43.600 Blake Neff used to work for Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson was on Fox News. I'm going to ask

00:46:47.060 Tucker Carlson about Blake Neff because I'm not, I'm not feeling his vibes. Remember I said before

00:46:50.840 I believed him. Now I'm just like, no, now he's just doing too much. Nope. He's lying. He's a liar

00:46:57.800 that lies. Okay. After extending an invitation and saying, we sincerely invite Candace to join us on 1.00

00:47:05.120 the live, on the live stream. He then tweets, I don't know if we have the tweets where he just like

00:47:10.360 says, no, it was never meant to be like, we know that that's not an invitation. Do you have that tweet?

00:47:14.860 I don't know if I send that to you, uh, Skylar, we can pull it up later, but now they're pretending

00:47:19.120 like they were never sincere. Oh yeah, here it is. Of course. It's not how you book a guest. We are

00:47:24.500 not booking a guest and never said that we were. We are delivering a response to several months of

00:47:29.340 escalating harassment and lies. She was given the opportunity to join and declined. That's just a

00:47:34.400 lie. Like, you're just like, how can we accept that anything you guys say in this live stream is

00:47:39.180 going to be true when you are lying to us right now? I never declined an offer to join your live

00:47:45.200 stream. Okay. You never insinuated that it had to be in person and you made it seem like it was a

00:47:52.960 live stream, which meant that as long as we could get there, of course, any place you can live stream

00:47:58.300 literally any place, anytime that's the tech allows for. And now you're pretending like the terms were

00:48:04.140 very clear and that was going to be 24 hours. And I had to like, it's like, everyone can see through

00:48:08.180 it. So we are now adding you to the pile of TPUSA, uh, BS officers. Okay. I'm going to figure

00:48:16.440 out what happened with Tucker. Tucker will tell me the truth. So you watch out. Tucker will tell me

00:48:20.620 the truth. I text my friend Tucker, my only friend Tucker, according to Adam Sosnick. Tucker's my only

00:48:26.020 friend. Corey Henry writes, Candace, you don't think that they would hesitate to take a whole plate

00:48:31.860 now to get to you. They would, and they don't care. I love you and I'm praying for you. Christ is king.

00:48:36.780 Look, I do think it would be one of the dumbest moves ever if they coordinated my assassination 0.98

00:48:42.500 at Turning Point USA headquarters. I mean, that would just be, yeah, I, I would like to think 0.94

00:48:47.920 the Feds are smarter than that, but you know, it is being run by Kash Patel and he thinks his 0.88

00:48:51.400 girlfriend's music is sensational. So maybe you're right. Maybe, maybe you're right. Top class T

00:48:56.860 writes, make things right with black people so that we can throw our support behind you. Quote,

00:49:02.100 no permanent allies or enemies, only permanent interests. Cut the check. I don't know what

00:49:08.160 cut the check means, but I, um, I don't know how to make things right with black people. I don't 1.00

00:49:12.660 know what that means because I feel like I've always been right with black people because I'm

00:49:16.360 black. So I feel like I've always been cool with everything I said. I just tell the truth. I don't 1.00

00:49:20.600 really care how people feel. And so I feel like during BLM, black people were really mad at me 0.70

00:49:24.120 because I was telling the truth, but then the truth ended up being the truth and BLM was a scam

00:49:28.080 and they were buying themselves houses. So maybe black people should make up with me. 1.00

00:49:32.100 That's what I want. I want people who supported BLM to make up with me and I will accept your

00:49:36.280 apology. Tim Morgan writes, the truth is its own self-evident and unassailable defense. We love

00:49:42.160 you, Candace. Thank you, Tim. Crown Heights Brainiac writes, Candace, please go live when they have

00:49:47.560 their live stream and do a live reaction. Team Petty. I saw that request and we can confirm that we are

00:49:53.580 going to live stream their live stream and live respond to the live stream that is not

00:49:57.480 actually a live stream that's interested in getting to the truth. I also love that they're

00:50:01.480 now trying to cage it like they were doing this live stream to respond irrespective of me when

00:50:08.620 their entire introduction to this live stream was him speaking for 10 minutes and assassinating my

00:50:15.400 character. And now it's like, oh, this isn't about Candace. We're going to do this irrespective.

00:50:19.740 And again, I don't love the fact that he heavily implies that Erica sanctioned that. He obviously

00:50:25.920 didn't write it himself and she's a CEO and it would follow that a CEO would read that.

00:50:30.260 Why allow for those lies in there and misrepresentations? I don't get that. And I do hope

00:50:34.960 she attends because these will be my questions. Also, Erica, if you're watching, can I submit to

00:50:39.820 you a list of five questions since it has to be in person and whatever because of like intuitive

00:50:46.020 stuff or something? If that is the requirement, can I submit like Candace's top five questions?

00:50:52.720 Can we do that? Or is that too hard? It has to be in person or something. Again,

00:51:00.020 we're trying to bend over backwards here to make this work somehow. And we are very open to it.

00:51:05.640 And we have never once declined this. We told you the truth, which was that it's virtually

00:51:10.380 impossible. It's actually the opposite. It is very virtually possible for me to appear on the

00:51:14.540 summer 15th. And I don't see a reason why not to allow that. Dubious Maximus writes,

00:51:19.500 I knew it. They wouldn't do a Zoom live, but in person only. The debate is rigged against you.

00:51:24.500 And if you don't go in person, they will say the matter is closed. They answer all questions and

00:51:28.480 won't accept further inquiries. You are correct, at least, that the new format of TPUSA campus events

00:51:34.620 is that students have to tell them ahead of time what they're going to ask. We have received

00:51:38.820 a flurry of emails to that effect. And I do sense this is going to be fake and gay. I'm going to hope 1.00

00:51:44.200 for the best, but it's already feeling pretty fake and gay. It hasn't even started. So 1.00

00:51:47.640 Candy Renee writes, go Max. Anna Rosas writes, Barry Weiss is interviewing Eric Kirk on December

00:51:56.220 13th. All is lining up with this December 15th show. Barry is going to pressure Erica into

00:52:01.960 disavowing your claims. That way you have to stop investigating into CK's assassination. There's

00:52:07.800 always a reason for everything. I saw some news about Barry sitting down with her. I thought that it

00:52:13.660 was actually that she's going somewhere where New York Times is hosting or CBS is hosting. I don't

00:52:18.920 know what it is. I like to wait and still stuff until things actually happen. I don't need to

00:52:25.500 surmise about what the future is going to be, but I'm assuming she's going to be at the December 15th

00:52:29.960 event based on what Blake Neff has said. I'd like to know if I'm right about that. And yeah, I don't run

00:52:36.380 my household. My husband, when I said December 15th, rushed right to him when I saw the text

00:52:42.640 confirmation or the tweet confirmation. He said December 15th absolutely does not work. I cannot

00:52:48.160 make December 15th work. So Allison Berry writes, Iron Lady of America going Max for Charlie. Thank

00:52:54.620 you, Allison. And lastly, Sarah writes, praying for you every day. I am so sad to see what has happened

00:52:58.740 to TP USA. It makes me sick. I loved Charlie and his work. I felt hope. I don't think Charlie would be

00:53:04.120 okay with this. I also feel sad for Erica and I feel sad for his kids. I do feel sad that it is

00:53:10.720 seemingly all burning to the ground very quickly and that they do not have enough forthright character

00:53:19.140 to assess what they are doing that is causing this. You know, it's like they think it's like the

00:53:27.480 world against them and the world could not have been more behind them when Charlie was assassinated.

00:53:32.600 So if you have lost favor with the world, I'm talking about the organization, by the way,

00:53:37.860 not obviously his kids and Erica. Well, I guess Erica is now the CEO. But if the organization has

00:53:45.120 lost favor with the world so quickly and your excuse is, well, this is Candace's fault and you send

00:53:49.080 Blake Neff out to lie, it's because you're deluding yourselves. And this organization, in my view,

00:53:56.500 has become completely delusional. So there's that. I'm not going to mince words, least of all,

00:54:02.800 because I want an organization that isn't staying true to their own principles of free speech and

00:54:07.520 inquiry to do well. The ghost of Charlie Kirk, that's not an appetizing enough of an offer to

00:54:15.480 make me stand behind an organization that no longer seems to be engaged in telling the truth.

00:54:20.640 So anyways, you guys, we will see you on Monday.

Candace Owens - December 05, 2025

Woah： It Was Erika Kirk Who Called For TPUSA To Invite Me!？｜ Candace Ep 275

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Candace Owens - December 05, 2025

Woah： It Was Erika Kirk Who Called For TPUSA To Invite Me!？ ｜ Candace Ep 275

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Woah： It Was Erika Kirk Who Called For TPUSA To Invite Me!？｜ Candace Ep 275