Candace Owens - February 27, 2026


Bride Of Charlie: Dr. Jerri & Mrs. Hyde | Episode 2


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

179.66585

Word Count

11,345

Sentence Count

906

Misogynist Sentences

37

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys. Now, I know a lot of American grandparents woke up a little bit confused this morning, wondering why their grandchildren are suddenly referring to them as far, far and more far. I'm proud of us. We classed up, America. We're taking that. We're taking that from Sweden. This series may be dedicated to all the far, fars and more fars out there.
00:00:18.460 I was actually speaking to one of Erica's exes, and he told me a pretty interesting story. I thought it was very interesting. Aside from offering the standard, I do not recognize who this human is at all anymore. I don't recognize the person that she is pretending to be. It's very different when we dated. Everyone says that across the board when you ask them about their relationships with Erica.
00:00:40.140 Erica, but he did tell me another interesting little tidbit, a little anecdote. One morning, he would often, I guess, speak to Erica about how close he was with his grandfather. His grandfather had already passed. He's dating Erica, and she's getting to know him in his life and the things that matter to him.
00:00:56.380 He says that one morning, Erica wakes up and she tells him that his grandfather, who has passed and who he adored, came to her in a dream with a message. He just thought that was quite odd. I thought that was an interesting story. It tells us a little bit about Erica because that is a psychology of sorts. It kind of reminds me of when Meghan Markle would spray Diana's perfume on to sort of attract Harry.
00:01:24.300 We're learning a lot more. We're learning a lot more about Erica and her psychological profile, and we are going to discuss more of that in depth today. So welcome back to Bride of Charlie.
00:01:37.220 We have nothing to hide.
00:01:38.400 Okay, so on background, I don't know how far down various rabbit holes you have gone, but if you are a regular viewer of the show, then you are very familiar with the name Alistair Crowley.
00:01:57.140 If you are not, please, in your spare time, hit Wikipedia. Read maybe Hollywood Babylon, Chaos. Look, the short and the thick of it is the elites practice occult sex magic.
00:02:11.440 You just got to accept that that is a circumstance at the top. They've been doing that for a long time.
00:02:16.640 They get together, and they have these satanic sex parties where they try to summon various demons.
00:02:23.620 That sounds crazy. I know, but it's real. It's right there in your face if you just look into history a tiny bit.
00:02:30.580 And Alistair Crowley, who was once termed the world's wickedest man, would host these parties all across the world, and he even created his own religion around it.
00:02:41.820 It's the science of Thelema, black magic. There are so many stories out there regarding Alistair Crowley attempting to summon various demons in France.
00:02:50.260 He tried to summon Pan, I think, in Paris, and many times people would end up in the hospital.
00:02:58.120 But probably the one story that ranks supreme is something that happened in 1923 in Sicily with one of his acolytes.
00:03:07.260 Alistair Crowley was sort of grooming a young Oxford student to become his magical heir.
00:03:14.340 He saw this young Oxford student and said, you've got it. You're amazing. Come down to Sicily and let's try to do some spells together.
00:03:24.660 This was a 23-year-old student, okay?
00:03:28.140 Alistair Crowley thinks he has the it factor. They go down to Sicily, and the kid ends up dead.
00:03:34.540 I'm actually going to bring on my producer, Ashley, to explain to you a little further what happened when they were working on an invisibility charm.
00:03:44.460 Take a listen.
00:03:45.620 Yeah, so basically, Alistair Crowley was convinced that he was able to make himself invisible,
00:03:51.780 and he was trying to bestow that power upon his little magical heir, Raul Loveday.
00:03:57.900 This was during one of his infamous ceremonies at his abbey in Sicily.
00:04:02.880 But during the experiment, they both got really sick. Alistair survived. He was fine.
00:04:07.460 But the nurse that was helping them said that Raul became slowly fainter and fainter until he just completely disappeared.
00:04:15.040 And so Alistair buried him in a quote-unquote empty coffin.
00:04:18.600 Like, there was absolutely nothing in it.
00:04:20.400 And later, Raul's wife, who was there, she was present for all of this.
00:04:24.080 She blames Alistair Crowley for this, or Crowley for this.
00:04:27.280 But just a few years later, in 1929, they came out and said,
00:04:30.700 Oh, no, actually, he just died from inflammation of the intestines. Nothing to see here.
00:04:36.160 So I'll tell you why this is important, why Alistair Crowley is so significant to the things that are happening today, okay?
00:04:41.620 What ended up happening was Mussolini, the evil fascist, kicked him out of the country for being a Satanist.
00:04:47.700 And fortunately for Alistair Crowley, this didn't actually matter because he was friends with the elites all over the world,
00:04:52.780 including, and this is just a historical fact, a woman by the name of Pauline Robinson,
00:04:58.920 who would eventually, after spending time with her friend Alistair Crowley,
00:05:04.660 eight and a half months later, she gives birth to Barbara Bush, okay?
00:05:09.780 This is just, again, a little over eight and a half months after hanging out with Alistair Crowley.
00:05:13.660 Obviously, you know who Barbara Bush is, the mother of George Bush.
00:05:17.800 Now, this is the source of the rumors that Barbara Bush is actually the child of Alistair Crowley.
00:05:24.900 Now, why am I telling you that?
00:05:25.800 Why am I starting this episode speaking about these occult rituals and the idea that the elites are practicing occult magic?
00:05:33.840 It's because it's important that as we begin to connect dots throughout this series that you fully digest,
00:05:38.740 as I told you yesterday, that Operation Paperclip was not about rescuing brilliant Jewish scientists who were being persecuted from Germany.
00:05:47.400 It was about rescuing wealthy occult perverts like Sigmund Freud and his boys,
00:05:52.920 referring to them as scientists, saying that they had scientific breakthroughs,
00:05:57.000 so they could go on doing perverted things and go on being the elites.
00:06:01.160 The same families have been in power for a very long time.
00:06:04.980 Everything else is just an illusion, okay?
00:06:07.120 I don't know how some people don't recognize that.
00:06:09.800 Just looking around at who they keep trying to tell us is a genius.
00:06:12.600 How is it always the rich people?
00:06:14.280 Do you guys really think that every offensively wealthy kid who makes his butler do his homework grows up and becomes a tech genius?
00:06:22.340 That's just the story that we keep being told.
00:06:24.760 Jack Parsons, unbelievably wealthy kid who created the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
00:06:30.080 That's the precursor to NASA's Apollo program.
00:06:32.800 Oh, he was such a genius.
00:06:34.440 He was trying to literally summon demons.
00:06:37.040 He was Aleister Crowley's protege.
00:06:39.360 He was doing the exact same thing that Aleister Crowley was doing,
00:06:44.240 throwing elite sex parties, saying we're going to create a moon child, everyone, sex, drugs.
00:06:49.040 Look, Elon Musk seems like a nice guy, but do I believe he's running 17 trillionaire dollar companies at the same time while also having 49 baby mamas?
00:07:00.160 No, I don't.
00:07:00.800 I don't accept that.
00:07:01.600 Bill Gates, that one bothers me the most.
00:07:03.600 Oh, my God.
00:07:04.120 Shocker.
00:07:04.540 He's in the Epstein files.
00:07:05.600 Look at him, people.
00:07:07.480 Look at him.
00:07:08.300 Look at his face.
00:07:09.660 Of course, he's in the Epstein files.
00:07:11.680 You really think this guy is just such a genius?
00:07:13.600 He went from computers to pharmaceuticals to poisoning African kids.
00:07:17.220 He's just so genius.
00:07:19.040 Yeah, I'm troubled the most by people who ever bought that that man was smart.
00:07:22.920 Poor and middle class people know we just we can never go on to become geniuses.
00:07:26.180 It doesn't work like that.
00:07:27.440 Now, I want kind of want everyone to just wake up from this occult spell of thinking that these people are smarter than you.
00:07:33.680 They are not natural geniuses, which do exist.
00:07:37.300 Like Charlie Kirk.
00:07:38.040 You get to you have to either play ball with the elites, meaning hand over whatever it is that you have built to fulfill our ends.
00:07:46.560 Let us be in control of the message.
00:07:49.640 What you're doing is big.
00:07:50.880 We want we want in.
00:07:52.120 Or if you say no, you wind up dead.
00:07:54.820 That's how that's how the world works.
00:07:56.120 And the military is responsible for keeping particular families in power.
00:08:02.340 It's pretty much eugenics at the top and social engineering at the bottom.
00:08:05.720 And we have proven over and over again as a society that we are subject to psychology.
00:08:11.920 Our minds are malleable.
00:08:13.220 They've trained us via marketing to poison ourselves so that we can't have more offspring.
00:08:19.260 Aggressive marketing campaigns, propaganda, repeat promises of scientific breakthroughs.
00:08:25.780 Scientific breakthrough.
00:08:26.640 Oh, my God.
00:08:27.100 We had no idea it caused cancer.
00:08:28.740 What do you mean she can't get pregnant?
00:08:30.240 We're so shocked.
00:08:31.800 This is what the military does best.
00:08:33.860 OK, psychological operations.
00:08:35.200 You've seen it in this entire lead up to Erica Kirk.
00:08:38.080 It is part of the reason I believe.
00:08:41.220 I don't know if you thought about this a lot like I have.
00:08:43.400 Why did the military choose to have us all watch Charlie's execution?
00:08:47.700 Think about that.
00:08:50.440 They could have just like poisoned his drink or something, done their standard, you know,
00:08:55.000 mess with the brakes and get into a car accident.
00:08:57.560 I don't know.
00:08:58.540 But no, they wanted us to watch it.
00:09:00.300 They wanted to make sure that we all watched it and we had an emotional reaction and that
00:09:05.220 they could sort of harness our emotions to get behind Erica, right?
00:09:12.640 Erica, that was where it was supposed to go.
00:09:14.440 You watched it.
00:09:15.160 She's the widow.
00:09:15.800 No, that's why they just keep saying the thing.
00:09:18.080 She's the grieving widow.
00:09:19.400 She's a grieving widow.
00:09:20.980 Never mind everything that she's doing right now.
00:09:23.560 Never mind the lack of concern that she seems to have for this investigation.
00:09:28.320 Me sitting down with her and her speaking about Charlie and never is emotion coming up.
00:09:33.820 And she's like, yeah, I just I like to work.
00:09:35.160 But then when I see the first trace of emotion, it's about her mother who's alive.
00:09:41.220 Charlie's dead is dead.
00:09:44.120 Everyone recognized something was off about that.
00:09:46.500 The way that they are defending her is crazy.
00:09:49.000 I've never seen anything like it.
00:09:50.340 I could do twenty seven thousand series, like I said, about Hillary Clinton.
00:09:54.240 They wouldn't care.
00:09:55.020 They wouldn't care at all.
00:09:56.460 But Erica, my goodness, that you can there is something there.
00:09:59.960 You cannot touch or speak about it because, well, they cast a spell.
00:10:03.940 What's wrong with you guys?
00:10:05.940 Well, anyway, let's quickly recap the military connections that we've already established in the Erica Kirk story.
00:10:10.740 Right.
00:10:10.940 So we learned that Erica was born at the Good Samaritan Hospital on either the 20th or the 22nd of November of 1988.
00:10:20.600 It depends on who's telling the story.
00:10:22.180 Is it Erica?
00:10:22.660 Is it Lori?
00:10:23.480 Is it Erica's dad?
00:10:25.500 A hospital graciously gifted by the Marine Corps after they were kind of caught experimenting on human brains because who among us hasn't been caught experimenting on human brains unethically?
00:10:38.080 Youth, I guess, is wasted on the young.
00:10:40.580 You should also know that more far or far, far, Carl Kenneth was himself a military man.
00:10:47.420 He served in the Army Corps of Engineers.
00:10:50.700 And I have to tell you, having looked through so many people's stories, I do believe that the Army Corps of Engineers is not always engineering, you know, planes.
00:11:00.860 I think sometimes they're just engineering society.
00:11:03.500 Social engineering is what they're into.
00:11:05.220 I'm not speaking about Carl Kenneth specifically, but that's very obviously one element of our military.
00:11:11.220 Now, Erica's father and her mother, Lori and Kent Fransfey, as we learned, were married in Marblehead, Massachusetts.
00:11:19.280 We still cannot find a single shred of proof regarding that union having taken place.
00:11:25.180 But we do acknowledge that it is the birthplace of the Marine Corps aviation, although whether that marriage took place in the 80s, whether that marriage took place in the 90s, or whether that marriage took place at all, we will see if we can discover throughout this series.
00:11:42.720 But today, I would like to discuss with you guys Kent Fransfey's first wife.
00:11:49.340 This woman is very important.
00:11:52.780 The woman that he married before Lori, in my opinion, is one of the more compelling characters in this story because she's very powerful.
00:12:03.680 She's very connected.
00:12:05.560 And she has quite a peculiar background.
00:12:09.040 And ultimately, her life, despite the fact that she married Kent first, is going to plug right into Erica's life.
00:12:15.500 This woman's name was, she died two years ago, Dr. Jerry Fransfey.
00:12:23.360 Look at Dr. Jerry Fransfey.
00:12:24.960 I'm going to tell you about Dr. Jerry Fransfey.
00:12:26.900 She keeps her name.
00:12:28.260 She also dies in Arizona.
00:12:29.720 There are everybody's in Arizona.
00:12:31.340 You would have no idea that these people were exes and they seem to get along quite well.
00:12:35.900 They keep doing business together.
00:12:37.640 Well, Dr. Jerry was born Jerry Pitts in 1943.
00:12:42.560 She was born into a very strict Mormon household.
00:12:47.320 Yeah, fun fact.
00:12:48.040 Erica's father was at first married to a Mormon before he got together with Lori.
00:12:54.220 Jerry's Mormon family is from Arizona, a very powerful Mormon family.
00:12:58.960 But she herself was raised in Indianapolis, Indiana.
00:13:03.040 Jerry also happens to be a victim of child rape.
00:13:07.380 Okay.
00:13:07.700 Now, she's going to tell the story in a different way.
00:13:09.960 She's almost going to, when she retells the story, make it sound like a love story.
00:13:15.360 It's weird to me.
00:13:16.880 I don't think a person should be trying to normalize child rape.
00:13:21.540 Or if they do, they probably shouldn't hold any future positions of power over children.
00:13:26.600 Wouldn't you agree?
00:13:27.940 Well, I'll let Jerry tell it.
00:13:29.600 Let's read a bit of this article from 1981 where she recounts her own history.
00:13:33.740 It tells us that at 14, she ran away from a strict Mormon upbringing in Indianapolis to get married.
00:13:40.020 She says, quote,
00:13:40.800 I was a straight-A student and was about to get the worst mark of my life, a C in algebra, Francois said in an interview.
00:13:47.400 I couldn't face my parents.
00:13:48.620 I loved my boyfriend.
00:13:50.100 We saw an opportunity and we took it.
00:13:52.740 I lied about my age.
00:13:53.960 I altered my birth certificate.
00:13:55.520 I then smeared it with Clarisol to make it look older.
00:13:59.100 Six months later, we asked to come home and we were welcomed.
00:14:03.840 She was a mother before her peers graduated high school and divorced before she was old enough to vote.
00:14:10.540 Okay, so just to recap, she gets married at 14, not mentioned as a fact that she's already pregnant.
00:14:18.360 Okay, she then runs away for six months to the other, just the other side of Indianapolis,
00:14:24.800 uses Clarisol so she can get married at 14, has this little shotgun wedding.
00:14:30.500 She gets married to a guy named Carl Pangurl.
00:14:35.340 Carl Pangurl, spelled P-A-N-G-E-R-L, is five or six years her senior.
00:14:42.560 I can't really tell.
00:14:43.400 Look, she's already telling us she's forging docs, so he could be five or six years her senior.
00:14:47.680 And just so you know, he's going to go on to become a bishop in the Mormon church
00:14:51.240 because marrying a child is apparently not a disqualifier.
00:14:54.400 In fact, she tells us her parents welcome them back into the home.
00:14:58.080 Okay. Okay, I guess. Let's keep going.
00:15:04.000 They divorce, and then Jerry somehow becomes a bookkeeper.
00:15:08.060 She gets into accounting.
00:15:09.580 So it doesn't matter that she got knocked up at 14, that she's married and divorced before she turns 18.
00:15:14.300 She's still somehow able to just get a good job and begin a career.
00:15:19.500 She becomes a bookie.
00:15:20.620 She learns clerical machines.
00:15:22.360 And I would love to know who exactly it was that she was bookkeeping for because I think it probably was somebody pretty important
00:15:28.280 because Jerry then suddenly marries some top brass in the military.
00:15:33.540 Her second husband, and we're not going to get—I'm just going to give you the facts about him.
00:15:38.320 He's a man named Kenneth Himsell, and he's a captain in the Indiana National Guard.
00:15:45.220 Goes on to become a general, a major general.
00:15:47.960 They get hitched in 1965.
00:15:50.700 Jerry's now got connections.
00:15:52.180 She gets a bachelor's degree in psychology.
00:15:55.140 That same year, psychology is what she is about to become, an expert.
00:16:00.760 That's going to be her career path in.
00:16:03.320 She just gets psychology, particularly the psychology of children.
00:16:06.920 It's now 1970.
00:16:08.400 She's 27, and she becomes a social worker in Indiana.
00:16:12.540 And instantly in my mind, and I get it, I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I'm pretty obsessed with MKUltra.
00:16:18.300 I don't love anybody that was a psychologist in the 70s, especially one that's connected to the military,
00:16:26.820 especially someone that's connected to the military in Indiana who happens to be a victim of child rape herself.
00:16:33.880 I'm not loving it.
00:16:35.460 A lot of red flags here.
00:16:36.660 It's immediately suspicious because MKUltra was in full swing, and if you did not know,
00:16:41.420 Indiana was a major hub for MKUltra action.
00:16:45.080 The universities in Indiana were factually involved in experimentation.
00:16:51.200 In fact, Indiana was actually the place that the government manufactured the LSD to drug people with for their experiments.
00:16:59.580 You can thank Indiana for the hippies movement.
00:17:01.620 Thank you, Indiana.
00:17:03.760 Anyway, suddenly Jerry's big time, okay?
00:17:05.660 In 1971, she heads out to Chicago, and she begins working for Quaker Oats for three years.
00:17:11.640 Now, if you're like me, I was like, well, at least Quaker Oats, we know, hired a psychologist.
00:17:18.080 For what?
00:17:18.840 She says she was helping them with marketing.
00:17:21.540 What kind of marketing?
00:17:23.680 Okay, the official story.
00:17:25.660 I don't know.
00:17:26.760 Help us sell these oats.
00:17:29.180 And if you're like me, I was literally thinking in my head, well, at least Quaker Oats was never involved in any weird MKUltra-type experimentation or anything.
00:17:37.220 Except for that one time when Quaker Oats was actually going into mental institutions and force-feeding a bunch of radioactive oats to little boys.
00:17:47.520 Look at this article.
00:17:49.160 This is our government.
00:17:51.840 A spoonful of sugar helps the radioactive oatmeal go down.
00:17:56.920 Yes, Quaker Oats was conducting experiments on unsuspecting young boys.
00:18:00.820 Um, yeah, I don't know what to say.
00:18:04.000 Anyway, the Atomic Energy Commission teamed up with Quaker Oats to experiment on children.
00:18:09.620 Now, how long did that go on for?
00:18:11.140 Did Jerry Fransfay herself play a part in any experimentation on children with Quaker Oats?
00:18:16.060 Was this even related to MKUltra?
00:18:17.940 We're never going to know any of those answers.
00:18:20.820 Put it out of your mind because in 1975, the military orders the destruction of all of the files related to MKUltra.
00:18:27.060 So, um, what we have today, which is already terrifying, is just a skeleton of just how far-reaching that CIA program was.
00:18:38.080 But I can say confidently, I've always believed that MKUltra was tasked with creating Manchurian candidates.
00:18:45.020 I believe a lot of people in politics today went through weird psychology programs.
00:18:49.020 It's my personal opinion.
00:18:50.740 This is my podcast.
00:18:51.920 I am entitled to it.
00:18:52.980 And Jerry meets and marries Kent Fransfay, jumping back into her timeline, okay?
00:18:57.860 She meets and marries Kent Fransfay while she's working for Quaker Oats.
00:19:02.320 And she's a few years older than him.
00:19:05.640 She continues to climb the ranks as a psychologist, master's degree, a doctorate.
00:19:11.300 Now she's going by Dr. Fransfay.
00:19:13.180 And her and Kent Fransfay moved down to Paradise Valley, Arizona, before deciding to divorce, okay?
00:19:23.060 You're supposed to believe that, okay, well, they're divorced.
00:19:24.940 You're never going to see each other again.
00:19:26.260 Hmm.
00:19:26.880 Maybe.
00:19:28.740 You should know that once she becomes a doctor, she has arrived.
00:19:32.320 She is now going to work for the biggest and most powerful families in the world, okay?
00:19:40.700 This is where it's going to get really fun because she begins working for, I mean, not
00:19:46.080 even just one of the most powerful families in the world, but it also happens to be a French
00:19:50.720 family.
00:19:51.520 Ah, France.
00:19:52.620 I could never do a series where you're not there, France.
00:19:56.220 The DuPonts.
00:19:57.300 I kid you not, she starts working for the DuPont family, becoming the director of employee
00:20:05.780 relations for DuPont because she's so good at psychology.
00:20:10.140 She gets into organizational psychology.
00:20:12.820 She is tasked, effectively, I would say, with finding the psychopaths that should head
00:20:16.900 up the corporations that are run by the elite bloodlines.
00:20:19.600 She goes into partnership working for the DuPonts.
00:20:23.440 Now, in case you forgot, there are also just mass poisoning people.
00:20:26.380 That's what they've done for a very long time.
00:20:28.240 If the lawsuits are telling us anything about, they have innumerable lawsuits related to them
00:20:33.540 poisoning the population, giving people cancer, Jerry's apparently a good fit.
00:20:38.220 In 1983, DuPont completes the largest merger in corporate history with Conoco Oil, and they're
00:20:45.040 able to do this thanks to Reagan and George Bush being in office, deregulating things, making
00:20:51.980 it easier for private corporations to go in and do bigger deals.
00:20:56.420 Of course, we know DuPont then moves those headquarters to Wilmington, Delaware.
00:21:02.980 I just loved looking into her and just seeing that she's the DuPont woman because I like to
00:21:08.680 pause and reflect on past episodes, and I don't know why everybody's freaking out about things,
00:21:12.340 and I just like to consider how terrified they must have been.
00:21:15.120 When I'm looking into the Charlie Egyptian planes, and I'm like, what's going on in
00:21:19.360 Wilmington, Delaware?
00:21:20.380 And I instantly hit the DuPont family.
00:21:23.480 And then Erica's out there nervously at AmFest, cracking like not funny jokes about
00:21:27.560 Egyptian planes.
00:21:28.400 She's like, oh, no, nobody here in Egyptian planes are here.
00:21:32.280 Tell you something, her jokes are going to become less and less funny as we get deeper
00:21:36.540 into this series.
00:21:37.360 Back to Dr. Jerry, she is then somehow awarded an entire clinic, a research center, pardon me,
00:21:46.400 at Radford University in 1983, a gender clinic of all things.
00:21:52.460 She's a feminist, and she's awarded a gender clinic, and they begin giving lessons to the
00:21:59.560 military.
00:22:00.140 My question is on what?
00:22:01.500 Gender?
00:22:03.220 Why do we need a research facility?
00:22:05.580 Oh, I know why.
00:22:06.240 The reason, and so you need to understand how the world works, the reason why companies
00:22:11.480 might be interested in having people that will come up with BS research for them is because
00:22:17.620 government and corporations have to produce completely fictitious academic reports and
00:22:23.760 studies to justify the psychopathic things that they're doing to us worldwide, okay?
00:22:27.840 You got to have the experts.
00:22:29.040 You got to have the psychopathic experts that will produce the reports so that people in power
00:22:34.720 can just unilaterally force things across the population, like the COVID vaccine.
00:22:39.580 Oh, well, Dr. So-and-so.
00:22:42.060 Oh, Dr. Fransfey maybe says that if you don't get the vaccine, it's because you're a psychopath.
00:22:47.480 If you don't line up and get the shot, it's because you're crazy and she's an expert.
00:22:51.060 That sort of a thing.
00:22:52.040 You know, just giving you an example.
00:22:53.580 She wasn't involved in the COVID thing, to my knowledge, but that's the purpose, right?
00:22:57.540 And Dr. Jerry Fransfey becomes that sort of an expert with ties to the most powerful
00:23:04.920 families in America and France.
00:23:07.460 She also, by the way, happens to be a total and complete fraud.
00:23:13.140 I am confident that Jerry Fransfey is a fraud, okay?
00:23:17.780 Fraud.
00:23:18.280 Capital F, fraud.
00:23:20.280 How do I know?
00:23:21.800 Look no further than this report that came out of Radford University.
00:23:25.820 That Jerry Fransfey produces pertaining to Native Americans and the Appalachian...
00:23:31.320 I'm just going to show you the cover of this report really quickly.
00:23:33.720 So it says that who's putting together this report, the Center for Gender Studies, and
00:23:38.260 it lists five names.
00:23:40.400 Marjorie Weyland, George Bourne, Richard Castor, Susan Friedman, Jerry Fransfey.
00:23:47.780 Well, not...
00:23:49.080 What she doesn't communicate in this report is that that's her family.
00:23:52.340 Marjorie Weyland is her mom.
00:23:58.300 Richard Castor is her nephew, her sister's son.
00:24:02.620 This is why they just get married so much because...
00:24:05.900 And I didn't even look into the other two.
00:24:07.080 I just couldn't...
00:24:07.720 Once I realized that the two of these people were her family and they're going to produce
00:24:11.560 a report, I just went, oh, she's like a whole broad.
00:24:15.160 That's just effectively Mormon mafia, right?
00:24:17.720 Wait, we've done a report.
00:24:19.680 I guess we can go into Native American.
00:24:21.940 They need feminism or something.
00:24:23.420 We can go right onto the reservation.
00:24:24.780 These women want to be free.
00:24:25.920 Something like that.
00:24:27.680 But I want you to sear that into your mind.
00:24:29.800 Mormons conducting research.
00:24:32.260 Students conducting research.
00:24:34.160 Again, this is a background episode, but that's going to become very relevant as we examine
00:24:39.060 Erica Kirk's ties to Eastern Europe because Jerry Fransfay gets involved in Eastern Europe,
00:24:43.960 especially in Eastern Europe.
00:24:45.140 What is going on, by the way, with all these Mormon missions?
00:24:48.960 Tyler Boyer, I'm kind of speaking to you, my friend.
00:24:51.180 I know about your time in Romania.
00:24:54.060 I've got the receipts.
00:24:55.260 Now, we'll dig into that.
00:24:58.020 But the reason that I wanted to give you the background of Jerry Fransfay is because after
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00:25:10.020 She gets into the charter school business, particularly helping them to develop psychological
00:25:14.840 methods with students.
00:25:17.220 Yeah, you know where this is going.
00:25:19.080 Dr. Jerry Fransfay is going to be the person that helps develop the Tesseract way.
00:25:25.380 Tesseract schools.
00:25:26.740 The school that Erica went to that is exceedingly problematic.
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00:28:59.200 when you look at the people that are involved very much, you can view it as almost a child
00:29:05.620 psychological experiment.
00:29:07.660 I'm going to introduce those individuals to you.
00:29:09.680 Let's just recap Tesseract School in general.
00:29:12.080 We've already informed you Erica will be there from 1993 to 1999.
00:29:17.840 We showed you this photo of her in the first grade.
00:29:23.040 We also then showed you this photo of Erica in the second grade.
00:29:27.960 Erica, by the way, I should note, because we got some comments about this,
00:29:31.800 she has spoken about how her mother chopped her hair off.
00:29:34.700 So that is a known thing because she didn't know how to do her hair.
00:29:37.520 I'm actually inclined to think that it was because her dad was taking care of her at that time.
00:29:41.120 I'm not positive about that, but that would definitely make sense
00:29:44.040 because these are going to be the years that she has a stay-at-home dad.
00:29:47.720 Third grade photo we have here with Erica in this school.
00:29:54.020 This is, without question, a school that is being designed by the elites.
00:29:58.800 It is backed by the Bushes and the Waltons, among other elite families.
00:30:05.200 They are, again, kind of getting into government money in a way, pioneering charter schools.
00:30:12.200 You give us the tax dollars and we'll show you a better way to use them.
00:30:15.300 Government schools are failing, right?
00:30:17.560 We're always in that right versus left false dialectic, but the same families are benefiting from it.
00:30:23.840 We're going to use this government money, okay?
00:30:26.100 Now, of course, you're going to do all that.
00:30:28.640 You need to have your elite psychologists on board to help develop these children,
00:30:34.680 how you're going to test them, how this is going to be a different model.
00:30:39.700 And that is why it makes perfect sense that Dr. Jerry Fransfey,
00:30:43.440 who conveniently is her entire Mormon family, is from Arizona.
00:30:49.760 Her and Kent had a home together in Arizona in Paradise Valley,
00:30:54.840 which is exactly where this particular school was.
00:30:57.360 This was the first school, and this one is going to fail very quickly.
00:31:02.820 But yeah, of course, she's going to help them draft those psychological models
00:31:07.120 at the school that Erica attends.
00:31:09.760 Now, Erica might not know this woman.
00:31:11.940 She may not have met her.
00:31:13.080 I would definitely be shocked if she didn't know about Dr. Fransfey.
00:31:19.820 Is she just doing the models?
00:31:20.960 Does she sit down with the kids?
00:31:22.480 I don't know.
00:31:23.200 But this is going to be how they handle these students is going to be described as the
00:31:28.660 Tesseract way.
00:31:29.800 Now, I want you to know who else is involved with the school, because if you think Dr.
00:31:33.340 Jerry Fransfey is problematic, well, I told you already that John T. Goley is the CEO of
00:31:40.100 Tesseract.
00:31:40.760 He does that announcement about it with Jeb Bush, who is, you know, supporting charter schools.
00:31:46.180 Well, I told you John T. Goley, he was working with Roundup Monsanto on their launch.
00:31:52.320 So I guess him and Jerry, Jerry's with DuPont.
00:31:54.980 That's a natural alliance poisoning the population and getting away with it.
00:31:59.520 But there's some other key players here.
00:32:02.380 I really want you to know about this guy named Phil Bliss, who joins the board of Tesseract.
00:32:08.480 OK, Phil Bliss here over there in the corner, Phil Bliss, the board member, was involved
00:32:15.960 with Stanford University in the 70s.
00:32:19.760 I'm not going to say, yes, I am MKUltra, MKUltra.
00:32:22.900 OK, he was known widely during that time as a drug counselor.
00:32:26.880 You know, OK, everyone's taken LSD.
00:32:28.980 He got the drug counselors, and he is also working at with Stanford's Hospital for Addiction
00:32:38.440 Research, right?
00:32:40.200 He then co-found a school in Palo Alto, which is called Mid-Peninsula High School.
00:32:47.360 He installs himself as the principal of that school, and that school then has a shooting.
00:32:52.020 In 1996, it turns out that the student that committed the shooting had been working with
00:32:56.360 Philip Bliss through his depression.
00:32:59.700 OK, fantastic candidate.
00:33:03.640 I don't know.
00:33:04.560 I just I got a lot of questions about these psychologists, as I said in the first episode.
00:33:09.360 When you look at all these things that are happening, school shootings behind everything
00:33:13.800 is a psychologist and a prescription counter, truly.
00:33:19.360 He also on that same campus, by the way, he was on the board of a French-American school,
00:33:23.860 so he also has French connections.
00:33:25.420 But that's just kind of implied now in my life.
00:33:27.940 The person who is going to be running the school as the executive director is a woman
00:33:32.420 named Jill Kessler.
00:33:34.840 She's the executive director, and she says that she moved to Arizona for her husband's
00:33:39.840 job.
00:33:40.820 And he is a pediatric developmental behavioral pediatrician, whatever that means.
00:33:47.260 He specializes in children and behavior, essentially.
00:33:50.680 So she is well suited above her is Susan B.
00:33:55.680 Silverstein, who is the vice president of development.
00:33:59.040 I have a very strong indication of who Susan B.
00:34:01.820 Silverstein is, but unless I'm certain, I'm not going to show the face and tell you the
00:34:06.280 backgrounds.
00:34:06.860 But yeah, we're just going to pause on that.
00:34:09.340 But we had a strong suspicion about who Susan B.
00:34:11.580 Silverstein is.
00:34:12.220 Like I said, they have done a very good job of wiping anything and everything about this
00:34:18.720 particular Tesseract in Paradise Valley, which eventually shuttered in 2000, from history.
00:34:24.660 I mean, even books.
00:34:26.080 They're like, this book, this person wrote a book on the collapse of it.
00:34:28.680 The book is just gone.
00:34:29.500 You cannot find this book anywhere.
00:34:31.920 I told you already that John Walton, obviously the son of Walmart founder Sam Walton, is a
00:34:37.620 major investor.
00:34:38.720 And he also sits on the board.
00:34:40.820 And my viewpoint is that it is fair to suggest that the school in and of itself was a psychological
00:34:46.760 experiment.
00:34:47.540 And the school completely falls apart.
00:34:49.680 There's accusations of financial impropriety, as well as the method which they used to track
00:34:57.220 the success of the students.
00:34:59.760 People said this is a complete scam.
00:35:01.620 The way that you're doing the studies doesn't have any control.
00:35:05.700 There's no control.
00:35:06.420 And that would track with anything Dr. Jerry Fransbay had her hands in because she's a
00:35:12.060 whole fraud.
00:35:13.460 She's just you can't just have your mommy do an experiment.
00:35:15.620 Come on, man.
00:35:16.540 You can't do this.
00:35:17.500 You just can't do that.
00:35:19.080 I also want to say this.
00:35:20.540 And this I'm going to say without any names here.
00:35:25.440 But the family that I received these yearbooks from, they had a child, multiple children actually
00:35:34.000 at the school and obviously the child is an adult today and has always maintained that
00:35:41.100 he was sexually abused by very specific people at the top of this school.
00:35:44.740 Obviously, I'm not going to name those people.
00:35:45.880 I have no evidence of this, but I was very compelled to listen and also to believe that
00:35:51.040 that individual because, well, child abuse and psychology go hand in hand.
00:35:55.300 So even if I didn't have his account, I would not have doubted it.
00:36:00.600 Dr. Jerry Fransbay herself, by the way, was friends and colleagues with Dr. John Money,
00:36:08.460 the notorious psychologist who was one of the fathers of transgenderism who then it turned
00:36:14.640 out notoriously abused children.
00:36:16.760 If you guys don't know who I'm speaking about, as soon as Jerry Fransbay opens the gender clinic
00:36:23.040 at Radford University or heads up the gender research center at Radford University, she
00:36:28.800 brings over Dr. John Money.
00:36:30.240 This is who Dr. John Money is.
00:36:31.960 Take a listen.
00:36:33.060 John Money, he's one of the greatest villains in history and he is the father of gender ideology.
00:36:38.840 And he became that by abusing two twin boys, one of whom had his genitalia basically destroyed
00:36:45.780 in a botched circumcision.
00:36:47.160 Money believed that sexuality was fluid.
00:36:50.580 He convinced these parents that he could raise that boy as a girl and it would be fine.
00:36:56.000 Long story short, that didn't work out.
00:36:58.460 That boy was every bit a boy.
00:37:00.740 When he was told what had been done to him, it destroyed him and he eventually ended up
00:37:04.900 committing suicide.
00:37:06.160 Money was a hero because he told the world that his experiment succeeded.
00:37:11.040 And it wasn't until the young man comes out and tells his story that people realized
00:37:15.420 not only did it not succeed, but he abused those boys horribly.
00:37:19.840 People needed to know where this ideology came from.
00:37:22.860 This guy who abused these boys made him perform sex acts on each other.
00:37:29.120 Yeah.
00:37:29.640 Just a colleague of Dr. Jerry Fransbay.
00:37:32.280 I am telling you, all of the psychologists are perverted.
00:37:35.600 They are.
00:37:36.300 I mean, I'm not saying like every psychologist that you know is perverted, but these these
00:37:39.500 people with the power and that are within close proximity to the elites, any incursion
00:37:45.320 into history, any incursion into what happened and what went wrong into America begins and
00:37:49.020 ends with these scientists, quote unquote scientists, that we rescued from Germany.
00:37:55.140 And a lot of what we know and heard about World War II, obviously, is a lie.
00:38:00.140 And many things have been covered up.
00:38:01.840 The fact that we still celebrate these people in school, like Sigmund Freud, is your biggest
00:38:05.220 clue that something is wrong.
00:38:07.240 Something is very wrong and rotten at the top.
00:38:09.760 I want to add this across the board.
00:38:12.340 Everyone that I have spoken to says that Lori, Erica's mother, is exceedingly problematic,
00:38:19.160 exceedingly problematic.
00:38:20.560 They acknowledge that Erica lies about a lot of details.
00:38:23.060 And obviously, on the basis of just the divorce documents that we went through yesterday, I
00:38:29.940 can see that Lori might do some things that would not be described as honest.
00:38:37.240 OK, I don't think she is likely an honest dealer.
00:38:40.300 But what people have said to me is she is the person, has always been the person in Erica's
00:38:44.720 ear.
00:38:45.120 She's this type A person that tells her who to go after in each and every room.
00:38:51.000 She knows who those people are, who Erica should instantly transform into, what she has to say.
00:38:56.640 I mean, one of her exes was very clear.
00:38:58.700 He said to me, I was warned by another person in beauty pageant world that that girl will
00:39:02.160 do anything to get to the top and her mother will do anything to help her get to the top.
00:39:07.420 Her mother herself, Lori, was a model, actually, at one point.
00:39:11.360 So that hunger for Erica to get to the top, there is a connection just based on discussions
00:39:15.920 I have had with multiple people to her mother.
00:39:17.640 And I know that's an untouchable subject because there was all there's always this, well, she's
00:39:22.740 sick now.
00:39:23.200 You can't talk about her mother at all.
00:39:25.180 But to get into the Erica story, you have to know who Lori Frantzfey is and you have to
00:39:28.720 know who this cast of character is around her.
00:39:31.340 And Erica is without question a climber.
00:39:35.720 OK, she is also without question willing to lie to make her mother look better.
00:39:44.080 I mean, to say I grew up with a single mother is not true.
00:39:45.920 So why is she saying it?
00:39:47.200 Well, people suspect probably Lori is the person in her ear getting her to say that because
00:39:52.400 it makes Lori look good.
00:39:54.120 She wanted Erica to be famous, but let's not remove Erica from this.
00:39:57.160 Erica desperately wanted to be famous.
00:39:59.000 No one can deny that.
00:40:00.620 Tomorrow, when we now begin in earnest to go through Erica's life, you will see she's
00:40:05.020 never dated a normal guy.
00:40:06.820 She's never dated a guy with a nine to five job.
00:40:09.200 And that's what Elizabeth Lane was hitting at when she was speaking about going through her
00:40:14.940 exes.
00:40:15.940 You can see that she was going to be with somebody.
00:40:18.720 She was OK.
00:40:20.060 You're going to the NFL.
00:40:21.160 You're going to the MLB.
00:40:22.540 We can be on the amazing race together.
00:40:24.420 You will see very clearly she is not dating a regular guy ever.
00:40:29.740 OK, her goal was to make it.
00:40:33.020 And I spice to say that Elizabeth Lane was very much on the money when she when she suggested
00:40:40.580 that that she would have done anything to be famous.
00:40:43.360 And like I said, you just you simply will not be able to deny that when you see the stuff
00:40:47.760 that we have uncovered about her and the missing year, missing years, I'll say plural of Erica's
00:40:55.420 life.
00:40:56.360 Very weird.
00:40:57.780 Where was Erica?
00:40:58.980 She even admits she's missing.
00:41:00.760 There's so much there.
00:41:02.060 Anyway, we'll take a brief break before I just show you a clip of Erica just lying casually.
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00:44:11.220 You know, easily the most important relationship, and again, I don't want to get ahead of myself,
00:44:18.720 so I'm going to get into this tomorrow, but the most important relationship that Erica
00:44:21.040 had at Turning Point USA is Tyler Boyer.
00:44:23.420 You will recall that when I sat down with her, and I want to let you know that ahead of today's
00:44:28.380 episode and yesterday, one of the questions that we keep asking that we can't get an answer
00:44:33.280 is how does Erica Kirk know Tyler Boyer?
00:44:37.780 She couldn't recall that in person.
00:44:39.320 We can't get an answer.
00:44:40.220 That seems to be something that she doesn't want to answer, right?
00:44:44.840 But Tyler's a very significant person because he introduced her to Charlie.
00:44:48.460 He set that up, right?
00:44:50.800 Not a good guy, Tyler Boyer.
00:44:52.920 And there was a rumor, which I will tell you what Turning Point's response was, but I had,
00:44:57.700 and it was stronger than a rumor.
00:44:58.980 It was somebody very much in Charlie's life who said, had reached out to me and said that
00:45:05.400 Charlie told this individual that he was establishing Doge because $10 million was missing, okay?
00:45:16.140 Heard that.
00:45:17.080 I went to Justin Strife when there was communication between us two, the COO, and I specifically
00:45:21.600 asked about that.
00:45:22.480 I said, I heard this, and this person definitely knows Charlie.
00:45:25.860 He knows Erica.
00:45:26.440 And, you know, is there any truth?
00:45:28.900 They said, no, no, no, that's not true.
00:45:31.140 Well, fast forward to today, and they fired a lot of people, and, you know, a lot of people
00:45:35.660 are speaking.
00:45:36.660 And somebody who was within Turning Point USA confirmed to me that money was indeed missing
00:45:43.240 out of Turning Point USA.
00:45:44.680 I can back that up 100%, which is why I'm saying it publicly, that there were millions missing
00:45:49.320 out of Turning Point USA, and they were wondering where that money was going.
00:45:53.580 And they specifically said that the money was missing out of Turning Point Action, which
00:45:59.860 is headed up by Tyler Boyer.
00:46:01.580 The reason why I'm bringing that up, and the reason why it's coming to my mind, is because
00:46:06.140 Tyler Boyer has a relationship with Lori, and Lori was put on the board of, what's that
00:46:11.660 company, whatever it's called, that collects data, and nobody really kind of knows what
00:46:16.560 it does.
00:46:16.840 Was it like AZ Tech or something like that?
00:46:19.900 And I remember when I was sitting with Erica, she kind of brought this up, and she's like,
00:46:22.520 you know, a lot of people want to know why my mother was put on that board, but it was
00:46:25.700 just because we needed a familiar name.
00:46:27.560 That's what she said.
00:46:28.480 Lori was put on the board because they needed a familiar name.
00:46:31.740 I guess there's just not enough billionaires that donate to Turning Point USA for them to have
00:46:35.720 put someone other than Lori, who we are told is very sick, by the way, and is very sick,
00:46:41.100 but they put her on the board of that company.
00:46:43.560 It makes me wonder if that is true, and also, A, why Justin Shrife has a different version
00:46:51.500 of events than somebody else at the company regarding whether or not money was missing.
00:46:54.980 There's a lot there that I feel needs to come out.
00:46:58.180 I do not believe for a single second their version of events that Charlie established
00:47:03.340 Doge seven days before he died because he just wanted to feel like Elon Musk and use
00:47:08.500 an expression.
00:47:09.120 I don't buy that for even one second, so I do want to say that.
00:47:12.420 And there is something casual about the way that Erica lies and how she lies about her background,
00:47:19.500 how she lies about whether or not she's had boyfriends, didn't date for five years.
00:47:22.400 That's not true.
00:47:23.180 It's almost like she glitches and she doesn't remember, and there's an element of that that
00:47:28.300 to me feels like information is being downloaded, like she's remembering things and can't quite
00:47:34.280 remember it.
00:47:35.220 I'm going to show you this clip because tomorrow we're obviously going to get into her pageant
00:47:38.380 days and how she meets Tyler Boyer and the connections in Romania, but I do want to show
00:47:44.060 you this clip of her just kind of lying very casually about how she got into the pageant world.
00:47:51.660 This is her discussing that back in 2020.
00:47:56.000 Take a listen.
00:47:57.380 Was it after that?
00:47:58.600 That's when you started pageants or when did that come about?
00:48:02.780 Right.
00:48:03.360 So the pageant world to me is something that it was an interesting season of life.
00:48:09.060 It was nothing that I was ever groomed for.
00:48:11.940 It was nothing that was ever on my radar.
00:48:15.320 I just, yeah, I wanted to play professional basketball.
00:48:19.200 That was my thing ever since I was five.
00:48:21.720 Like that was my, I wanted to play and that's, that was all I wanted to do.
00:48:26.440 I was a gym rat for lack of a better term.
00:48:28.760 And I remember getting something in the mail when I had come home from school one summer
00:48:34.860 and it was like, hey, you should compete at Miss Arizona USA.
00:48:38.240 Someone nominated you.
00:48:39.280 And I was like, I don't know who would nominate me for that, but okay.
00:48:42.560 So I shared it with my mom and I, and we, I was reviewing all the different things that
00:48:47.060 you have to go through.
00:48:47.840 And I thought to myself, if I were to ever win this, um, my, the most important thing
00:48:53.400 out of it would be to be able to make a difference with the title.
00:48:56.560 I don't care about the photo shoots.
00:48:58.020 I just want to be able to overbook myself being able to get involved with the local communities,
00:49:03.160 with the local, um, organizations that are actually making a difference.
00:49:07.480 So the pageant world for me was something that was not a form of narcissism.
00:49:12.200 It was more along the terms of being a steward for my state, especially as it hit our hundredth
00:49:18.020 year, uh, celebration.
00:49:21.580 Yeah, that's just, that's not right.
00:49:24.320 That's not true.
00:49:25.300 Um, Erica has been involved in pageants from the very beginning.
00:49:28.180 Uh, her mother is definitely the person who pushed that.
00:49:32.480 I actually do believe that Erica loves basketball.
00:49:34.540 There's no question she plays basketball.
00:49:35.560 Um, but this idea that she didn't want it is just not true.
00:49:41.100 It's so objectively not true.
00:49:43.420 Erica, without question, and anybody who's being objective and honest and looking at her
00:49:48.380 history and the people that she dated and the people that she wanted to be in close
00:49:52.460 proximity to can guarantee to you that this girl wanted to be famous, like very badly
00:49:58.540 wanted to be famous one way or the other.
00:50:01.400 Don't want to get ahead of ourselves.
00:50:02.580 Obviously we unpacked a lot, but I just wanted to introduce you to Dr. Jerry Fransfey, um,
00:50:06.660 and that Tesseract school.
00:50:08.600 Um, and tomorrow we're going to, uh, really jump in to Erica's pageant years.
00:50:14.260 And when she kind of, I would say, it's the map.
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00:52:22.960 Okay, the comments yesterday were just exceptional.
00:52:27.140 I just want to shout out all of you guys in the comment section.
00:52:29.640 Amazing.
00:52:30.220 So funny.
00:52:31.160 We were laughing so hard.
00:52:32.820 Just going to read a few of my favorite ones.
00:52:34.780 Okay, the top comment was, had to hide in the washroom at the Daily...
00:52:39.420 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:52:39.960 You're going to that one first, but I'm going to finish this Daily Wire one.
00:52:42.360 Had to hide in the washroom at the Daily Wire to watch this with the other 238,000 live audience.
00:52:49.460 So good.
00:52:50.960 Angel of Remedy writes, I want to piss off Candice so that she will investigate my family roots
00:52:54.360 because I want to know where I come from.
00:52:56.440 Tanner Wolfe wrote, everything they have been telling us is far, far from the truth.
00:53:01.940 I mean, loving the Scandinavians, the comment section.
00:53:05.820 It was fantastic.
00:53:06.720 We really enjoyed it.
00:53:07.580 And you guys just make everything worth it because it's so fun, even though the media absolutely hates us.
00:53:12.680 And yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
00:53:14.560 The talk about a psychological campaign to try to get us not to do the series.
00:53:17.900 You guys have no idea what they were doing.
00:53:20.000 Just no idea.
00:53:21.220 They were beyond.
00:53:22.540 Charlie writes, we all feel what is happening instinctively.
00:53:25.220 Candice, I feel you are the one who was sent to pull down the veil and unite us all against the elite global machine.
00:53:30.420 They try to divide us, but together we are strong in God and truth.
00:53:33.760 You know what?
00:53:34.240 I used to play that game, too.
00:53:35.800 I didn't even realize it.
00:53:36.900 That's how good their psychological campaigns are.
00:53:39.000 Like, they really do make you think you figured it out if you've picked either the left or the right.
00:53:42.920 And no, they are benefiting on both sides of that machine, and it is the same families that are benefiting at the very top.
00:53:48.880 All of it would have seemed so crazy to me if you had said to me even five years ago that, you know, the elites are practicing occult magic, and now I'm going, why are we even in school?
00:54:00.220 We're just literally sitting in a classroom, talking about the public school system, so they can just work a number on your children and make them think that they're educated and that they should pursue working for one of these companies with the elites.
00:54:13.340 That's the most aspirational thing that they can do.
00:54:15.460 It's so backward.
00:54:16.960 It is just so backward.
00:54:18.860 Intuition Jen writes, it seems really weird and now a bit suspicious that there are so many Mormons involved with Turning Point USA.
00:54:24.460 And Erica, thank you for continuing to go, Max.
00:54:27.760 The Mormon thread will continue to happen.
00:54:29.540 I do want to say this, first and foremost.
00:54:31.040 So many Mormons helped me in the Charlie Crook investigation, and I could not have done a lot of that early research into UVU campus if it was not Mormons running around, getting information.
00:54:42.180 And them acknowledging, what's going on at this university?
00:54:45.400 Why do I feel like the CIA is involved?
00:54:47.360 Why is our president, like former CIA, she has since stepped down, but there's a lot of weird stuff happening in Utah.
00:54:54.700 But in terms of speaking about Turning Point USA, Tyler Boyer is the guy.
00:55:00.280 He's the guy that introduced Charlie to everybody, including Erica, and Erica can't remember how she met him.
00:55:05.780 That's not right, okay?
00:55:07.280 And more investigation needs to be done into Jerry, Bronzeface, Mormon family, okay?
00:55:14.880 I'm going to give you that last name again of her mother, Marjorie Farrin, F-E-R-R-I-N.
00:55:23.080 Now, Mormon families are always big, so this could mean something or it could mean nothing.
00:55:27.200 But the Farrins definitely married into the Farnsworth clan a few times.
00:55:32.240 And Arizona, there's stuff going on there.
00:55:35.640 There is definitely stuff going on.
00:55:38.400 Tyler is close with the Farnsworth clan.
00:55:40.200 We've covered that.
00:55:40.960 There's a lot to look at.
00:55:42.240 And I can say, definitively, he is not a good person.
00:55:45.780 And yeah, it's weird that Erica is protective of him.
00:55:50.880 That should unnerve you.
00:55:52.720 That's another thing that was missing in this is just her instinct to get rid of bad people or people that were pressuring Charlie.
00:55:57.540 She's like, give them main stage, main stage.
00:56:00.160 These are my allies.
00:56:01.000 My allies are Charlie's enemies.
00:56:02.540 I don't know.
00:56:03.000 None of that's normal.
00:56:04.240 None of that is normal.
00:56:05.060 And if I find out the Turning Point Action was indeed for a fact and not allegedly, and I feel like it is like I'm getting this from Turning Point USA, right?
00:56:16.880 I was actually missing around $10 million.
00:56:20.300 Two separate people saying that, one in their personal life saying that, and now someone in their professional life saying that.
00:56:24.960 And Erica is covering for that.
00:56:28.560 I'm, whew, man, I am just, it's just going to get even bigger.
00:56:32.260 This is just going to get, we just need to keep the pressure and get to the bottom of what happened.
00:56:36.060 Jennifer Hofer writes, the young boy was David, the young boys who were abused were David and Bruce Reimer.
00:56:43.300 I'm from Manitoba, a small town outside of Winnipeg.
00:56:46.180 It is a very dark story.
00:56:47.500 Yes, absolutely.
00:56:48.200 What Dr. John Money did to those twins.
00:56:49.960 And there was so much evil that happened.
00:56:51.660 The media did not cover it well.
00:56:53.120 I pray he is in a better place.
00:56:54.320 There was no justice ever served.
00:56:56.500 Absolutely true.
00:56:58.200 And that was in one of Dr. Jerry Frantzbe's colleagues, giving her background and what happened to her.
00:57:03.720 And the family was just okay with it.
00:57:05.780 Ah, come back home.
00:57:06.820 Ah, okay.
00:57:07.660 It's all right.
00:57:08.360 Your 19-year-old boyfriend knocked you up.
00:57:10.800 Just come back in.
00:57:12.380 We, this person writes, we need a day of peace and worship.
00:57:15.400 Hands Across America 2.0.
00:57:16.800 We need to come together and raise the spiritual vibration of this world.
00:57:20.120 Some will fight this evil with weapons.
00:57:21.460 Some will fight it with spirituality.
00:57:22.440 Anyone have any ideas?
00:57:23.560 Let's go, Max.
00:57:24.460 I am all about fighting it with prayer and truth.
00:57:28.740 I am so serious when I tell you.
00:57:30.520 They, I don't know.
00:57:31.480 It's almost like they're like, they try to like cast a spell every time they lie, but it doesn't land anymore.
00:57:36.600 It doesn't land.
00:57:37.340 And they kind of know it doesn't land.
00:57:38.940 All of the money, like we're saying no to the money.
00:57:41.100 We're recognizing the influencer campaigns, the screaming, the theatrics.
00:57:46.060 You cannot watch this series.
00:57:48.160 Candace is a demon.
00:57:49.260 Oh my gosh.
00:57:50.120 How dare she look into what school Erica went into?
00:57:53.000 How dare she notice that she's lying?
00:57:55.400 Like, I always want you guys to just feel encouraged because we, none of us were awake to this years ago.
00:58:00.940 We were all at one another's throats and now we are finally turning around and looking at the elites and going, who are you?
00:58:08.460 What families are you from?
00:58:10.180 Why are you behaving like this?
00:58:12.340 We're the psychologists now, right?
00:58:14.260 We're diagnosing them and they're a bunch of psychopaths.
00:58:17.280 Okay.
00:58:17.580 Done.
00:58:18.100 We're, we're, this is our ship and you guys got to go.
00:58:21.660 Okay.
00:58:21.960 We're not, we're not doing this anymore.
00:58:24.020 The peer pressure, making people terrified all the time and you're going to lose everything.
00:58:29.100 We're, we'll crush you.
00:58:30.080 We'll do this.
00:58:31.020 Goodbye.
00:58:31.640 Okay.
00:58:32.400 Just goodbye.
00:58:33.600 Nobody cares about that anymore.
00:58:35.540 Jordan writes, dear Candace, you are a human being who is true to her soul.
00:58:38.540 When my father died, I held him tightly to my arms to make him know that I was there for his last path, as scary as it was for him.
00:58:44.360 Wow.
00:58:44.720 It's so beautiful.
00:58:45.720 While being skeptical, I kept my senses open and I truly felt his soul coming out of his body.
00:58:52.040 Helena Dini writes, TPUSA is running a tight shipwreck.
00:58:55.920 Joyce Tutal writes, she is America's number one investigative truth seeker.
00:58:59.620 Of course, we stand with Candace.
00:59:00.900 Christ is king.
00:59:01.880 Let's go.
00:59:03.080 I just want you guys to walk away and know that the elites are practicing the occult.
00:59:09.580 I want you to know that.
00:59:10.420 It has not stopped.
00:59:11.540 Yes, they are satanic.
00:59:13.060 And we have to just acknowledge that thing first.
00:59:16.360 Remain optimistic.
00:59:17.740 In the end, God wins.
00:59:19.020 Okay.
00:59:19.640 God, he's already won.
00:59:20.620 He says to me, I'm like, in the end, we win.
00:59:22.700 He's like, Christ has already won.
00:59:25.080 That's why they can't defeat truth.
00:59:27.180 They don't know what to do.
00:59:28.100 They're spending so much money.
00:59:29.560 They can buy everything.
00:59:30.580 They can buy influencers.
00:59:32.320 They can buy ad spots.
00:59:34.180 They can continue to float people who would naturally have failed if we did, in fact, live in a free market society.
00:59:40.260 Nobody's watching them, but somehow their companies keep growing.
00:59:43.140 Yeah, that's the elites.
00:59:44.140 That's their money.
00:59:44.920 The factory never ends.
00:59:45.740 But the one thing they can't purchase is truth.
00:59:48.020 They can't.
00:59:48.960 And so, be happy.
00:59:51.340 Be happy.
00:59:51.760 That's not a thing.
00:59:53.280 Hope Bean writes, Bodie Bauckham is a prominent pastor and author and a theologian.
00:59:58.300 He died on September 25th, 2025, at the age of 56.
01:00:01.320 His death was attributed to an emergency medical incident.
01:00:04.840 I loved him.
01:00:05.380 I wondered about his death.
01:00:06.840 Christ is king.
01:00:09.180 Yeah, I did not know those.
01:00:09.900 I did not know any of that.
01:00:10.740 So, thank you.
01:00:11.820 Paige, he writes, did everyone see the alleged leaked smear campaign against Candace Owens by Turning Point USA?
01:00:16.600 That isn't righteous judgment.
01:00:17.800 It's bearing false witness.
01:00:18.860 The Ninth Commandment doesn't include an agenda-driven exemption.
01:00:21.700 Truth over fear.
01:00:22.480 Christ is king.
01:00:23.100 Go max.
01:00:23.560 I can tell you I did not look too much into that because I felt that they were trying to distract us and our team from doing the work and actually creating the series.
01:00:31.340 But what I will say is I found out from employees that they were behind the attacks against me from the very beginning.
01:00:39.300 And so, that was quite shocking because I was obviously speaking to them in good faith, trying to understand what had happened.
01:00:45.580 And then I was very alarmed to learn that they had so early been behind a PR campaign to dismiss me.
01:00:51.260 I mean, at Charlie's real funeral, they're on the phone with the doctor and coming up with, like, magic bullet theory.
01:00:57.820 That's beyond weird.
01:00:59.220 Don't ever forget that.
01:01:00.320 That came from Erica.
01:01:02.320 That came from Erica.
01:01:03.920 Superman neck came from Erica.
01:01:05.600 And they're telling you you have no right to ask questions.
01:01:08.200 Like, what?
01:01:10.100 She was running a PR campaign to help the masses believe that Charlie had, like, a Superman neck on the day that he was slated to be buried.
01:01:19.180 I guess he wasn't buried.
01:01:20.140 We don't know whether or not he was ever buried.
01:01:21.720 But that's wild.
01:01:23.680 That is wild.
01:01:24.620 And it's not okay.
01:01:25.220 And so, yeah, tomorrow, like I said, we will begin in earnest to go through her pageant years, which I'm very excited to get into.
01:01:30.640 But I felt like this background and these players are important.
01:01:35.100 Dr.
01:01:35.460 France Faye is important.
01:01:37.400 And now I can just kind of give you the timeline.
01:01:39.600 We can go through and see what Dr.
01:01:41.240 France Faye is doing in Eastern Europe.
01:01:42.620 And then Tyler is going to get into Eastern Europe.
01:01:45.080 And Erica is going to get into Eastern Europe.
01:01:46.900 And everybody's in Eastern Europe with the Marines and doing good things always.
01:01:51.460 They never do anything bad.
01:01:52.400 What are you talking about?
01:01:53.340 The Marines gave Good Samaritan Hospital out of their hearts.
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01:02:01.340 Yeah, that's how it goes.
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01:02:26.180 The whole, why is Emmanuel gay?
01:02:28.260 Well, we don't know.
01:02:29.820 Well, we kind of do know, to be honest.
01:02:31.200 We don't know, no, but we know.
01:02:32.880 Anyway, you guys, we will.
01:02:36.340 We'll see you guys tomorrow.
01:02:38.720 We'll see you guys tomorrow.