Bride Of Charlie： Have No Fear, Lori Is Here. ｜ Episode 3
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1 hour and 8 minutes
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43
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Summary
Lori Frantz-Fey, despite being ill, has recently been put on the board of Superfeed Technologies alongside Turning Point's COO Tyler Boyer. Is it possible that these two are in cahoots? And who is the witness to the shady divorce documents?
Transcript
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All right, you guys, happy Friday. We are going on a journey. All right, a journey.
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So yesterday, we told you that by all accounts, the voice that is in Erica's ear is Lori, her mother.
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As a part of the public psychological campaign, Erica has been curating videos to remind us that her mother is very ill.
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I don't dispute that. I do dispute that Erica was with her on September 10th receiving a treatment, but we'll get to that later.
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Lori Frantz-Fey, despite being ill, has recently been put on the board of Superfeed Technologies alongside Turning Point Action's COO, Tyler Boyer.
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Shady dude. They're effectively then business partners. They have been for a while, actually.
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Lori was at first a director over at Superfeed.
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Rumors have been swirling online that money from Turning Point Action has been routed into Superfeed.
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Now, I'm not a forensic accountant, so I can either confirm nor deny that.
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The point is, what I want you to take away here, is that these two are in cahoots, okay?
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Now, we earlier broke the story that Tyler Boyer is, among other things, allegedly taking Turning Point into the business of real estate in particular.
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It might be relevant then that we learn a little bit, a thing or two, about a witness to Lori's, frankly, bizarre divorce documents that we went over.
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And we are, therefore, not allowed to speak about her Turning Point family or why the hell her mother was ever put on any board in the first place.
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Billions of dollars are on the line, so I'd like to mark myself safe from being emotionally manipulated by Operation Erika Burt.
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Loretta Abbas, or, you know, Walstad, Bronze Faye, Guinta.
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Too many LLCs, too many households, always lurking behind her daughter, shady divorce docs, curated content.
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Even the lawyer on those shady divorce docs, Rebecca Kaye, may she rest in peace.
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Is everybody somehow maybe connected to gambling?
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All I know is that with Mom, the vibes are not vibing for me.
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We have lottery tickets flying in the air with our grandma, grandparents.
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Well, on Monday's episode, or I guess earlier this week, Wednesday's episode, we went through Lori and Kent's divorce documents, right?
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The only two out of about six or so documents that were available.
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Four different dates to the alleged wedding between Lori and Kent.
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An unnotarized child care agreement, plus a different date for Erica's birthday than the one initially listed in the Cincinnati News.
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But we cautioned people at home, like, hey, there's other docs.
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Therefore, it's plausible that those remaining documents made some necessary changes.
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What if you guys went ahead and tore the caution tape down, sent to me all the remaining documents?
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I'll have you know that Erica's birthday on all of them is November 22nd.
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Her name is spelled differently a few times, too.
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That's what I want to talk about is a person that was in these documents.
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There was another person mentioned, someone who was listed as the witness to these shenanigans.
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That's how I am going to hither to refer to the divorce documents.
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And that witness, his name is Richard Erpenbeck.
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Now, what I am blurring out on this document is it had his address, which allowed me to
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definitively confirm which Rick Erpenbeck we were speaking about.
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Erpenbeck, by the way, anybody that's gone through following any of the people on X that
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had been deep diving alongside me, you will know that Erpenbeck is not an unusual name
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This is actually the family that she uses many times to either notarize or to flat out
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incorporate her very many LLCs, regarding which, I just want to say this, I'm never able to
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figure out what the heck the purposes of these LLCs are.
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Her professional backstory in and of itself, it's odd.
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It's kind of like Erica odd, to be honest, right?
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By her second marriage, we discover that she's working as a secretary.
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She then must have fallen and bumped her head and became a technological genius.
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But then suddenly, whoop, she's arrived and she is just putting together tech companies,
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I am waiting for that late stage technological brilliance to fall upon me because I can barely
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I don't even know how to get to the app store in a fast enough time.
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Let me take you through the litany of LLCs that she has filed, this is Lori, which feature
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Richard or Donna Erpenbeck as either the secretary, the incorporator, the notary, across a 25-year
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Lori and Rick filed for Eurotech International UK.
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And in the available 1998 docs pertaining to it, Richard Erpenbeck is again listed as
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She also filed for virtual registration, okay, in December of 1999.
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You can see that we've got both Donna and Rick Erpenbeck had signed off on that.
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Also, does that say, yeah, you see Lori's signature.
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Everyone's kind of involved in getting these documents together.
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And she eventually renames that E3 Tech in 2017.
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I can tell you my instincts when I see a ton of LLCs, and I don't know what the heck they're
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doing, especially when they're identifying themselves as tech, as a technology.
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In my mind, and I'm not saying this is the circumstance, but my unprofessional opinion,
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Even the thought of that, just thinking about that would make us a demon.
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Now, Rick Erpenbeck, under that scenario, might just be a fantastic businessman.
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He certainly, like I said, is a longtime business associate of Lori's, following her from Ohio
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And also, there's Donna Erpenbeck mentioned, who's also featured on the divorce docs,
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And ladies and gentlemen, I would like to tell you a little bit about that Erpenbeck family.
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The Erpenbeck scandal, as it was termed, that went down between Ohio and Kentucky around 2002.
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Oddly, the exact year that Lori and Erica move out, head out to Notre Dame Prep.
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So there was a massive home-building company called Erpenbeck.
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Erpenbeck Company, it was, as it sounds, owned and operated by generations of the Erpenbeck family.
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Bill Erpenbeck, our boy Rick Erpenbeck, Gary Erpenbeck, married to Donna Erpenbeck, who we just saw as a notary.
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And we have Jeff Erpenbeck, plus their dad, Tony.
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Now, the Erpenbecks approached new homeowners offering to help them with construction,
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sometimes offering pathways for them to cut down financial fees pertaining to their new home ownership.
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You know, pay us directly, we'll handle the rest kind of a deal.
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Young people buying homes for the first time, but the homes, it turns out, were not being built.
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And their mortgages, it turned out, were not being paid either.
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Erpenbeck served 21 years after pleading guilty to defrauding banks of $34 million.
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So he was a home builder who funneled the proceeds from home closings back to his company and himself.
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So his crimes left hundreds of homebuyers on the hook for millions of dollars in unpaid mortgages.
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I really don't want to have that clip oversell to you, undersell to you, what went down.
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I just want you guys to understand, like, what this case was about.
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$34 million seemingly evaporated from well-meaning people who were trying to buy their homes.
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It was, like I said, Ohio, Kentucky case that was for the ages.
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Check out just some snippets from articles recapping this case.
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Tells us that by 2004, Lori Erpenbeck seemingly had enough of her family.
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She already knew that her brother Bill had thought about killing her.
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So when dad, Tony, offered to give her $500 for her birthday, she then turned the conversation to her testimony about Bill.
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Tony offered her money to change her testimony about Bill.
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Lori told her Lori about the conversation, and the FBI was looped in.
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She agreed to wear a wire to capture information.
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Over the next few days, she met with her dad and Bill as they tried to convince her to agree to a fake storyline, and then she started the fraud to help the company's cash flow, and it got over her head.
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Okay, Tony Erpenbeck, that's dad, had been in a federal medical prison in Lexington for just a few months when he tried to hire someone to murder and kidnap the people connected with putting him and his son behind bars.
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He wanted then-senior U.S. District Judge S. Arthur Spiegel and then-retired assistant U.S. Attorney Kathleen Brinkman killed.
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He told a would-be hitman to bury the agent's three kids in a casket with crackers, water, and an air pipe for 10 days.
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He recruited a fellow inmate about to be released from prison to commit the crimes, but the inmate flipped on Erpenbeck and wore a wire for the FBI.
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The recording caught Tony Erpenbeck offering to pay fake hitman half a million dollars in gold stock first.
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Ben Erpenbeck planned to pay the man and the other another half a million dollars from offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands after news of the kidnappings hit the newspapers.
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Oh, okay, here's another piece of just this case.
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Bill Erpenbeck lost thousands of dollars when he ratted out his own friend in 2009.
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Oh, man, this one goes on, and he asked his friend to put a quarter million dollars to dig a hole and put the money in there so that he had a little cash when he got out.
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Okay, another personal favorite portion of mine from the news of that day is the notary testifying that Rick's brother, Bill, would sometimes ask her to notarize documents while the person involved was not even present, right?
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She said Bill Erpenbeck sometimes asked her to notarize documents when the people who supposedly had signed them were not in her presence.
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Oh, yeah, that's illegal, and it is exactly what I pointed out to you guys.
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Having not known this whole story and background, not knowing that this Rick was going to come out, come up in the documents that I couldn't access at the time, I said something's not right here.
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It seems odd that anybody would sign away their rights to a court case, a legal representation, without a notary being present.
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That just did not seem to me to be a clerical error.
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Anyway, documents in the court's absent notarization, it's not how court cases work.
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It is to me, it looks to me like someone was looking the other way, like somebody maybe knew the county clerk and was up to no good.
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Now, like they told you, like these newspapers are telling you, when things were going down, Lorianne, the sister, wanted to cooperate with the police.
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That was a no-no, you'd never go against the family, so they started threatening her.
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Then she goes into hiding until she gets a phone call from her dad, Tony, and her dad tells her,
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So she runs down to the house, comes out of hiding, only to realize her brothers, Bill, Gary, Rick, they're there telling her,
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Like you read, we went through already, she wears wire for the feds, meets up with dad again, yada, yada, yada.
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He picks up additional charges for threatening to kill his sister.
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He's ultimately sentenced to 30 years in prison.
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He ends up serving 21 years after a judge later shortens his sentence.
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His dad, Tony, who had just been sentenced to five years and 10 months for bank fraud,
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with a concurrent sentence for 60 months for obstruction of justice,
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well, he later then received another 20 years because, you know, he tried to hire the hitman
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to kill the U.S. district judge and the U.S. attorney and the FBI agent's children.
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Lori Ann, the sister, does a year, one count of bank fraud.
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Rick Erpenbeck, the youngest of the Klan, Lori's Erpenbeck, agrees to let go of his Kentucky
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But he otherwise avoids any charges because his name was not on the business.
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And throughout his testimony, we learn that one of the big mysteries of this case was why
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his father, Tony, had transferred so much money to LLCs that were under Rick's control.
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In his deposition Thursday, Rick Erpenbeck testified,
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you'd have to ask my dad actually what was in his head.
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He had already always, you know, helped the other boys out from the beginning.
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I was the one who worked two jobs, three jobs through college, two jobs through law school
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while he was helping out, you know, the other boys, the Erpenbeck company.
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And he wanted to give me the opportunity to purchase these assets.
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That's, they say, right there, the biggest question to be answered is why Tony Erpenbeck
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agreed to shift so much money into Rick Erpenbeck's control.
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Rick made out real nice because he wasn't involved with the business.
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Some of us, I mean, some of it, of course, went to Bill's lavish lifestyle.
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But where did the rest of the money get siphoned off to?
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And apparently, like, it shows us he attempted to stow away some cash.
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The Erpenbeck name was back in the news in 2009 when FBI agents dug up a cooler full of
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cash from Summit Hills Country Club in Crestview Hills.
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A friend had buried money that he received from Erpenbeck on the course next to Erpenbeck's
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Erpenbeck had hoped to use that money after he got out of prison.
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Because it just seems to be the case that fraud surrounds Lori.
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From her parents to her grandparents to the person that's doing her documents.
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To her very many businesses, and nobody knows what they do, she just can't seem to get
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To me, that despite her obviously being very much aware of who the Erpenbecks were, a case
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which included attempts of coordinated murder and kidnapping of children, putting them into
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No, she didn't go, hey, maybe I just don't want to.
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I know it sounds like you really were just at school and you don't know why you got all
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Yeah, I think if my lawyer called me, if Noah, if I looked into Noah and Noah's family's in
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prison for murdering and putting people in boxes or threatening to put people in boxes
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and it's a trial of a century, I'd say, you know what?
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I can probably figure out how to incorporate my LLC by myself.
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She brings this guy in and just so happens to be, I know it's so coincidental, these are
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clerical errors, just so happens to be that she's got some docs that look a little shady.
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And I looked through those documents and no, it was not corrected.
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And no, Erica's birthday never does, even across different documents, seem to go back
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So Lori did not at all, I guess, have the impetus to think that maybe working with this family
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What are some of the adjectives that they keep describing me as?
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It's interesting that Lori sends Erica to Tesseract in Arizona, and the school then suddenly
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has to shutter its doors because it, once again, another financial scandal.
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Poor, I mean, it must be just so scary for Erica to see this so much in her life.
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Later on, Lori's going to start working with the Farnsworths, camera guy taking down the
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And then she's going to strike up this partnership with Tyler Boyer, this very shady COO of Turning
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Point Action, who is going to introduce Erica to Charlie Kirk.
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And in the background, Lori and Tyler are going to do business together.
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Now, remember when people wondered why it was that Lori was a board member at Superfee Technologies?
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And I'm in front of Erica, and I told you guys that the answer that Erica gave me was
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And Tyler and Lori, by the way, Superfee already objectively involved in scandal.
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Kari Lake's bribery scandal involves a shady GOP tech firm.
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Yeah, they're referring to Superfee Technologies.
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Had its business revoked by the state of Arizona while it employed Jeff DeWitt, its former COO,
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and Lake, who had received more than $100,000 from the entity in the personal financial disclosure
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Money goes missing everywhere she goes, even when her daughter's just going to school.
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I know that he recently required a literal federal pardon from the President of the United States
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He was credibly accused of nine felonies related to trying to subvert the election,
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But that's just, everybody just doesn't understand how much Turning Point is going through right
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I said at the top that Tyler Boyer is telling people that they are now going to get into the
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real estate business to help young homeowners because it was Charlie's vision, right?
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He's telling people that Charlie the Ghost, who they can manipulate to do whatever they want,
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always, you know, he always tells students not to go to college and to instead get married
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And therefore, the next logical step would be for Turning Point to go into homeownership,
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If you think that's weird, that's because you're demonic.
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Lori, in case you missed it, is the one person that Erica now posts for sympathy.
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She's curating Lori, right, to let you know that Lori is sick.
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That, to me, felt like a person I should probably be looking into, right?
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How dare you have any questions about anything right now?
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She just lost her husband and her mom's sick.
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I think these people are sick in the head.
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And there is something very wrong with this picture of Lori, Tyler, and Erica Kirk being together.
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Anyway, we'll be right back after a quick break.
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Lori has always come first, and Lori is exceedingly problematic, okay?
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I understand someday George Soros is going to be sick, okay?
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Doesn't mean that we don't get to discuss the things he is involved in.
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A question that I was asking is, what went on with this marriage between Lori and Kent,
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Why do I feel like it's not even a real marriage?
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I see no evidence of the marriage occurring, or it just seems like a—I don't know if a
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I don't know if it can happen that many times across two documents.
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And like I said, we have the other documents, and we will show you them at the beginning
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Well, fortunately for me, another sleuth, someone in Marbleham, Massachusetts, said,
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And they were not able to pull up any marriage documents.
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But they were able to pull up some deeds where Lori and Kent had signed the deeds over,
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and when they had first received the deed, to their home in Marblehead, Massachusetts.
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And there's a little interesting tidbit here where Lori and Kent are listing as having been
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a couple from Rhode Island, from North Kingstown, Rhode Island.
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First off, I want to tell you that that's not a place.
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I would know, because I went to the University of Rhode Island.
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There's clerical errors, but there's Kingston, Rhode Island, which is about two miles long,
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and is just the University of Rhode Island campus, where I graduated from.
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And then there's South Kingstown, North Kingstown, and apparently they lived there,
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except they can't find a trace of Lori and Kent having lived in Rhode Island.
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So my Rhode Island sleuths, people down at the county maybe in Rhode Island,
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if you want to take a peek and see if you can find this couple, this lovely couple,
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Well, I guess no, because they're divorce talks here.
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But people are saying they can't find those divorce talks,
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but this makes it seem like they maybe got married in Rhode Island.
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Well, you can maybe just get married in Marblehead while you're living together in Rhode Island.
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If you find something, Rhode Islanders, hit me up.
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Now, we talked about how she went to this school, Tesseract.
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It's also going to be a scam, financial scam, but that's fine.
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After Erica Fransfey leaves Tesseract in 2000 because the school is facing a financial crisis,
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I also want to point out, like I said, the school is being run by Jewish women.
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They're even renting from a Jewish school the Looking Glass.
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Stereotypically, Jewish people are known for very good accounting, but not in this case.
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Thereafter, there is evidence, and we have not been able to find anything concrete,
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but there is evidence that Erica went back up to Ohio for about three years, from 2000 to 2002.
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She apparently attended a school known as St. Ursula Villa.
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St. Ursula Villa is actually separate from St. Ursula Academy.
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It's a privately owned, and at first glance, you would think it was a Catholic school,
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but actually, despite its name, despite it being on the St. Ursula Academy property,
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it was not owned by the nuns, as St. Ursula Academy was.
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In private, it was completely separate from the Catholic Church at this time,
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So, and I cannot pull up who was funding this school at that time.
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So, if you have yearbooks from St. Ursula Villa, not the broader Academy, but St. Ursula Villa,
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from the years 2002, let's take it up to 2003, and you see Erica Fransfay in there,
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or you remember her being there, please reach out to us.
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Like I said, these two schools were operating same place, separate entities.
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What happens next in her life, though, is pretty easy to document.
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Erica is at Notre Dame Prep, and I should note, I did not know this at the time,
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but Notre Dame Prep was formerly the Tesseract School,
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the one that they had to shutter in North Scottsdale.
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Now the doors are reopened, and it's Notre Dame Prep.
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And it's very easy to document Erica throughout these years.
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In 2003, she's playing volleyball because she gets involved in sports.
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It's also easy to track her because despite her claim that she got into pageantry because she got a mailer one year.
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Let's roll that clip of what she said again yesterday.
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Was it after that that's when you started pageants, or when did that come about?
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So the pageant world to me is something that it was an interesting season of life.
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I just, yeah, I wanted to play professional basketball.
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Like, that was my, I wanted to play, and that was all I wanted to do.
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And I remember getting something in the mail when I had come home from school one summer,
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and it was like, hey, you should compete at Miss Arizona USA.
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Someone nominated you, and I was like, I don't know who would nominate me for that, but okay.
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So I shared it with my mom, and I was reviewing all the different things that you have to go through,
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and I thought to myself, if I were to ever win this, the most important thing out of it would be to be able to make a difference with the title.
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I just want to be able to overbook myself, being able to get involved with the local communities,
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with the local organizations that are actually making a difference.
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So the pageant world for me was something that was not a form of narcissism.
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It was more along the terms of being a steward for my state, especially as it hit our 100th year celebration.
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By the way, if you have to say that you weren't groomed for something, you probably were.
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And the reality is that every single year from 2005 through to 2012, Erica was involved in beauty pageants.
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So that's seven years of her life that we could find.
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There could be—she could have been doing pageantry while she was in Ohio for a couple of years.
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I should also add here that some pageant women disputed her narrative.
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They wrote to us that she was just randomly invited.
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They said that minors in particular are not just freely solicited to join pageant world
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and that their photo has to be submitted by a parent or a guardian.
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But I never received any of these mailers that she's talking about.
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Anyway, let's jump into an Erica timeline, and you guys can follow along here.
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2005, Erica is still attending Notre Dame Prep, and she is playing basketball.
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She was a junior in high school from 2005, 2006.
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She is going to win first runner-up in the National America Miss Arizona pageant,
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and she will represent Arizona in the upcoming All-American Miss pageant in November of 2005,
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That year, Lori Fransfay is listed in the House bill budget for the U.S. Department of Homeland
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Securities for another business that she has called IMET Laboratories.
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Like I said, don't ask me what any of her businesses do.
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In August, just ahead of Erica's senior year, this is 2006 now, in August, just ahead of
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her senior year, she's going to win the National American Miss Teen pageant, and she wins a
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chance and takes it to travel to D.C. to present her plans to Representative J.D.
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Erica becomes involved with a charity known as Andrea's Closet, which works with her
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Erica notes that she stops by that hospital often on the way to basketball games and that
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she wants to establish her own charity in the future.
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That year, her father, Kent Fransfay, is listed as a risk assessment contractor.
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He's mentioned also as a resident of Surprise, Arizona, concerned, basically, he's trying to
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You get this sense that now the family is like, we need government contracts for stuff.
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Lori is going to have to close down Virtual Registration, International Incorporated, one
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that Rick helped her open, because the tax department force closes it for lack of a tax
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So that tends to happen a lot with some of these LLCs.
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In 2007, we have Erica winning the Miss American, I'm sorry, her teen year begins.
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So you kind of, you have the pageant at the end of a year, and then you have the crown for
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the following year, for those of you who are like me and do not know how pageantry world
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So if you're competing in 2006, you are competing for 2007, and then 2007 is going to be your
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So that is her America Miss American team year.
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And that is also the year that she's going to graduate from Notre Dame Prep in the spring,
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receiving a full basketball and academic scholarship to Regis University, which is in Denver, Colorado.
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She is also named as a finalist for the Arizona Interscholastic Association's Everyday Heroes
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Hey, that's the first time you're going to hear an expression, everyday heroes.
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We know that's going to end up being what she calls her charity once it gets minted in
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She got an award for that, and I guess it's stuck.
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In the 2007 and 2008 school year, Erica is going to begin playing basketball.
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I could find two newspaper entries of her scoring, November 24th game against South Dakota, and
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And, yeah, she's seemingly, if I was just following the paper trail, I would say she
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And I was wondering, like, did she transfer to Loyola Marymount?
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And you should know, of course, never leave, never leave Lori out.
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Lori is, first off, she's listed now as having been married to Larry Guinta.
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That's the first time that we see that because Joe Abbas dies, and it looks like she is married.
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Lori and Larry, maybe they're saying that they're just together.
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But Lori, every year, there's always a new LLC.
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So Lori is going to file AZ Tech International with Rick Erpenbeck on the documents, and that
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will, oh, I'm sorry, they had already filed that.
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There's so many LLCs and so many cancellations.
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2008 is where it gets pretty interesting because I was trying to find Erica's very present.
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OK, I put this as like Erica's missing school year.
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Now, she herself disputes this in various times.
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She says she played basketball for two years, and she's going to note in a future alumni packet
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for Notre Dame that she was indeed playing basketball at Regis University for two years.
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And interestingly enough, Regis University still has her basketball stat page up.
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They say they only have a record of her playing from 2007 to 2008.
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She said she had an academic scholarship at Regis.
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I was like, maybe she stopped playing basketball and she decided to just focus on her studies.
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And that's why I can't find her at basketball games.
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Maybe that's why Regis is not acknowledging that she continued to play.
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But then I thought, no, I think something else happened here.
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She does indeed go missing because Erica gives an interview in 2020 where she's reflecting
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It's a rather obscure interview, which has since been removed, by the way.
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They contacted someone and got this taken down, but not before I got it, not before I got it
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They're going to start going backwards and trying to delete stuff.
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And she's going to confirm that after she passes her crown.
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So in 2007, she's wearing the crown and then she passes her crown.
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She is going to confirm that she does indeed go missing during after that period.
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I prayed for God to just strip my ego from all of that stuff, all of that world, all of
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That was just, it was never, it was me from the standpoint of a philanthropic side, but
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the hometown hero thing was just weird and it was unhealthy and it was just ego fueling.
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So I locked myself in my room, basically turned into a hermit for about a good eight months.
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The only person I would see outside of my family was my pastor's wife.
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And we would go to the church and she would just pour into me every single day.
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And I just was reading scripture and read the Bible cover to cover multiple times.
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How can an active college student purport to see no one but her mother and her pastor's
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I'm highlighting this particular period of time because I suspect that this could potentially
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represent a time when Erica trained to become a Christian.
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But given what we've learned about Fort Huachuca, an intel base that literally trains Christians,
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Was she training to be able to impress people like Charlie by just always having a Bible verse?
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Without making it somehow a Bible verse or a holy in some degree.
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And there's something that registers to people as off about that.
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It was the only person that saw Erica for eight months.
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And again, she is dating when this happened herself.
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She wanted to strip herself from all this plastic.
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And by strip herself, she means she's going to then continue to compete every single year.
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Uh, we tried to find out by going through her old tweets via an account that Erica has since locked down.
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Shout out to the mommy sleuth who said, hey, Candace, I have access.
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And what we were able to discern, and again, we're putting this as a possibility.
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And since Turning Point didn't answer our first slate of questions, there's no point.
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And, oh, actually, we particularly went out to them two days ago with this specific question, who was the pastor?
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But we thought a possible church could be the City of Grace, which is in Scottsdale, City of Grace of Scottsdale.
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Pastor Terry Crist is mentioned on her X feed as early as 2011.
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I cherish your friendship, and I am grateful for your love.
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I am totally obsessed with City of Grace, she says.
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My heart is overwhelmed with incredible amounts of joy.
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Now, coincidentally, and I'm going to bring Ashley on in a second to explain a little more,
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but I'll tell you that Pastor Terry is very close with Brian Houston, the Hillsong Church founder
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who infamously attempted to cover up his father's pedophilia.
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Brian Houston, on his father, who was never charged, said, quote,
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I have no doubt now that my father was a serial pedophile and will probably never know the extent of it.
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So let me bring on Ashley to explain that the Terry Crist and Judith and the relation in a better manner
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because she's way deeper down that rabbit hole than I am.
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Yeah, so like we said, Pastor Terry Crist and his wife, Pastor Judith Crist,
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they were very close with Erica at this time from 2011 to around 2016 is where we can track their relationship.
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And interestingly, Pastor Terry Crist has a very interesting background.
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So he is very good friends with Brian Houston, who was the founder of Hillsong.
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And like you said, he was very much like he covered up his father's pedophilia for years,
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And then right afterwards, Pastor Terry Crist also resigned from his church that he was leading,
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And then one other weird thing that happened was Pastor Terry Crist and his wife were accused of having,
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well, this is just word on the street, but they would have their congregants like throw up into bags
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And so that's just word on the street, allegedly.
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I will say that even regarding the pastor, even though his son is making the allegation
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that he believes his father was pedophile, if he was not charged,
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But, you know, there seems to be some smoke there.
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That is what has been alleged even by his own son.
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And like I said, I'm not deep on that, but it is interesting.
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And I am not certain this is the pastor's wife that she went into training with.
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I'm not certain she had to throw up in a bag, you know, to get rid of bad spirits.
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But I do know that YouTube will do what it has to do.
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The YouTube creators will do what they have to do.
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The Baron Coleman's, the Nisa's, they'll do what they have to do to get to the bottom of that.
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Because this is an interesting turning point in Erica's life, in my view.
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And she strikes me as someone who there are going to be some psychiatrists in her life
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There's just that is what people are perceiving is a spiritual darkness.
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And sometimes spiritual darkness comes from people who are purporting to be spiritually light.
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People who can't get a sentence without saying the Lord, the Lord, the Lord
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could have something else going on, as we just learned with the Hillsong scandal.
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Otherwise, we can confirm to you guys that despite Erica's hiatus,
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she does make it to compete for Miss USA Colorado 2009.
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I guess we will, you already saw the timeline, so you guys are good.
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We literally do not care at all what everybody is saying on the internet that is clearly being paid to say the same thing.
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If you find the most demonic thing that happened in all of this to be me investigating it and investigating whether or not the people that are taking over Turning Point USA are actually going to be good stewards of the billions, alleged billions going forward.
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Nobody even thinks about Grandpa Joe and Willy Wonka and Machaka Factory.
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But I just now reflect on her telling me during our sit-down that she received the questions
00:53:44.260
ahead of time for her interview with Barry Weiss.
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Like, she knew that Barry was going to ask a question about me.
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You know, she said, you know, they didn't rehearse her answers, but she knew what they
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And therefore, we can conclude that none of the questions caught her off guard.
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She definitely thought through recounting her time in New York City, whether or not she
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to her body language as she's about to tell us that she didn't date anybody for five years
00:54:23.200
I'm a 26-year-old Christian woman living in New York City.
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I would like to stay here long term, but I wonder whether it's sustainable.
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Do you believe there's a place for women like myself in modern cities who care about having
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a career, but also marrying a like-minded Christian conservative man?
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Well, yeah, so it just depends on where you're looking, you know, if you're on the apps.
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I don't know if—I'm not going to ask you your personal journey.
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But what I will say is, when I lived out here, I was here for five years, I never dated here,
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because I saw vicariously through my roommate how terrible it was.
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Somehow getting drinks was the replacement of having coffee and breakfast.
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I personally would rather have coffee or brunch with someone than going—I just—I don't drink.
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I find it unproductive, not because I'm holier than whatever.
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But I always thought it was very strange how she would go to drinks with one guy and then
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Did you tell your pastor that you are ready for the Lord to bring into your life the man
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You yourself need to be prepared for that man, and only you will know how to do that.
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Does that mean staying out and going out with the girls?
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I'm not saying you sit on your couch and all of a sudden he's going to knock on your door
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He knew that because I was not dating in New York City, he knew that in order for me to
00:56:14.460
know that that was my man, he had to blanket Charlie as a job interview.
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Because if that went in, no joke, if he came to me and said, hey, let's go on a date to
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Because there's some interesting things that happen in this timeline as we start to go forward.
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Ask yourself, what is the intended purpose of that lie?
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Nobody that I know would judge Erica if she was like, you know what?
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I was eating pizza at 3 a.m. in the morning at Artichoke.
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And I'm so grateful that I met a wonderful person like Charlie.
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No one, there's no expectation for her to pretend she never dated anybody.
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Like she just was, oh, you know, I was sitting at home observing, observing my roommate and
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The Lori knew exactly what I needed, which was Charlie.
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I would have to be sat down and told that it was a business opportunity and what the
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Lori knew was probably everything about Charlie.
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Just like people say that Lori tells her what to say and who to target in every room.
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But I don't think Lori or Erica is going to cop to that.
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But when people are saying it across various points in her life, that the common denominator
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And of course, you guys, I hate to tell you this, but the reality is that from 2013 to
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2018, the five years preceding her relationship with Charlie, Charlie, Erica had multiple boyfriends.
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She rang in the new year with a boyfriend, okay, in 2018.
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So yeah, no, the correct sentence should be, I did not have a boyfriend in New York.
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I didn't go out to meet a boyfriend because I already had one.
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So there was not actually a single year that we could find that Erica France Bay was single.
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Okay, let's get into some of these top comments from the last episode.
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Bat Walsh is hiding in the bathroom at the Daily Wire watching this episode.
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Because I know, obviously, the Daily Wire's campus, whenever you guys say this,
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I picture the employees all huddled up in the restroom watching my episode.
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I skipped my classes at Tesseract School to watch this.
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Well, good, because that's not going to be a school for long.
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I would like to thank Dan Bongino for sending me here.
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Yeah, look, maybe these guys will update their perspectives with more information.
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Because I got to say, these aren't clerical errors, my friend.
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Like I said, we'll go over that for you guys on Monday.
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I just had to give you the Urban Beck scandal full stop so you could really appreciate
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that a story of murder and families involved and all that.
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I want to remind you guys also, if you'd like to support our show,
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We are also standing against the entire world, it seems.
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And I do want to say that when MSNBC, as they are,
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are dedicating entire segments to calling us devilish, that's fantastic.
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Vote of confidence that I am doing the right thing.
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Because I do not want to be on these people's sides.
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My audience has never been more left and right at the same time.
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And I think that we're really starting to see who rules over us and is constantly trying
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to keep us engaged in the Republican versus Democrat game, which serves nobody except the
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Rachel writes, I am greatly enjoying this Bride of Charlie series.
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We don't even have like, you know, obviously I got fired from Daily Wire.
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Shout out to Dom and Ash and Skylar and Savannah and Bella.
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You don't know what the Chris, you don't know what he's got to do editing this trailer.
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People say we're going to go out for the marketing company that did the trailer.
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Next person, I'm going to get to some more of your comments here.
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Rachel writes, I support you and I hope you stay safe.
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I watch you every single day and learn so much from you.
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I love how you explain things and bring a different perspective in a world that feels fake.
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And like I said, just like everywhere I go, I feel the love from the people.
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And I know I'm never going to get a fair shake from the media, but I just do not care.
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The Vipha writes, went to Hillsong in Oslo in my 20s.
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I remember how creepy it was being groomed to believe that the big pastor did for his dad,
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what the big pastor did for his dad and covering up the pedophile, pedophilery, I don't know if that's a word, was God's love and forgiveness.
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That is crazy that they tried to tell you that.
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I mean, you feel it with these cavalry chapels too, too, as I went through and showed you how many of them were involved in pedophilia scandals.
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And we watched Rob McCoy try to like whitewash somebody who actually went to prison.
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And we have to understand these are indeed psychological operations.
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And they really peaked at the Charlie Kirk assassination and trying to shame us into wanting answers.
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Joshua Steves writes, the comments on Graham's and Dan Bongino's Candice's demonic video only confirms that the world sees the truth and has your back.
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Just thinking about that in general, like just as a man, this is a serious question.
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Like as a man, if you see like 45 other dudes with the microphone all being theatrical, oh, this is crazy.
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They were saying what they were going to do violently.
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How do you how do you not like recognize that there is nothing manly about that?
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When men get all fired up and are shouting about a trailer that was dropped by a girl, like it's just what are you doing?
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And to the other men, if 75,000 other men think they're brave for making videos, you don't need to be the 76th.
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OK, you're all being emotionally impacted by a trailer that hasn't even come out.
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I keep telling you guys, this is why I like Russia.
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I just feel like in Russia, when you go on YouTube, there's not a bunch of men crying.
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I feel like they're not like, stop it, Candace.
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Bad things happen when good men don't make videos on YouTube about a series that hasn't come out, a two minute trailer.
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Corey Henry writes, I have lived in Cincinnati for 60 years.
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What do you guys think the real reason was Lori got out of there?
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Oh, I forgot because she slipped and fell and bumped her head and became a technological genius.
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Like I said, I can't wait till that happens to me because I'm really bad at tech and I need that.
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Lastly, the Nicole writes, I just miss Charlie as an audience member would, after the years of listening, not only seeing his content come up, just continues to remind me it won't ever be the same.
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Thank you, Candace, for doing what others won't.
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And, you know, I still kind of go through the emotions.
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And sometimes I'm like angry at him, even though he's not here.
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Whereas I'm just like, man, like I when I see him again, I'm just going to be like, you should have listened to me.
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You know, I told you that just because it's in a ball gown at Mar-a-Lago doesn't mean it's not a gangster.
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And so his naivety about some of the stuff frustrates me.
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But she's like, man, I just you always would have, could have, should have.
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And I'm like, where would it be today if he had listened?
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Anyway, guys, I hope you all have a absolutely beautiful, wonderful weekend.
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Spend time with your family and know that we are at the gates and we are winning.