Candace Owens - Bride Of Charlie： Have No Fear, Lori Is Here. ｜ Episode 3

00:00:00.180 All right, you guys, happy Friday. We are going on a journey. All right, a journey.

00:00:06.320 So yesterday, we told you that by all accounts, the voice that is in Erica's ear is Lori, her mother.

00:00:12.300 Lori is the pusher, consigliere. 0.77

00:00:15.800 As a part of the public psychological campaign, Erica has been curating videos to remind us that her mother is very ill.

00:00:24.160 I don't dispute that. I do dispute that Erica was with her on September 10th receiving a treatment, but we'll get to that later.

00:00:29.680 Not important for today.

00:00:31.580 Lori Frantz-Fey, despite being ill, has recently been put on the board of Superfeed Technologies alongside Turning Point Action's COO, Tyler Boyer.

00:00:42.420 Shady dude. They're effectively then business partners. They have been for a while, actually.

00:00:47.660 Lori was at first a director over at Superfeed.

00:00:51.100 Rumors have been swirling online that money from Turning Point Action has been routed into Superfeed.

00:00:57.840 Now, I'm not a forensic accountant, so I can either confirm nor deny that.

00:01:02.120 The point is, what I want you to take away here, is that these two are in cahoots, okay?

00:01:08.120 Now, we earlier broke the story that Tyler Boyer is, among other things, allegedly taking Turning Point into the business of real estate in particular.

00:01:16.960 It might be relevant then that we learn a little bit, a thing or two, about a witness to Lori's, frankly, bizarre divorce documents that we went over.

00:01:27.880 Now, I know, I know, she's a grieving widow.

00:01:30.920 She's a grieving widow.

00:01:32.100 Very required that I say that.

00:01:33.380 And we are, therefore, not allowed to speak about her Turning Point family or why the hell her mother was ever put on any board in the first place.

00:01:43.460 But you know what?

00:01:44.000 Billions of dollars are on the line, so I'd like to mark myself safe from being emotionally manipulated by Operation Erika Burt.

00:01:51.720 Welcome back to Bride of Erika. 0.96

00:01:55.220 We have nothing to hide.

00:01:56.320 We have nothing to hide.

00:02:03.380 Man, oh, man, Loretta Abbas.

00:02:08.000 Loretta Abbas, or, you know, Walstad, Bronze Faye, Guinta.

00:02:14.860 Something ain't right.

00:02:16.880 Too many LLCs, too many households, always lurking behind her daughter, shady divorce docs, curated content. 0.99

00:02:23.520 Even the lawyer on those shady divorce docs, Rebecca Kaye, may she rest in peace.

00:02:28.440 But even she was involved with horse racing.

00:02:30.600 Is everybody somehow maybe connected to gambling?

00:02:33.380 I want to know.

00:02:34.420 All I know is that with Mom, the vibes are not vibing for me.

00:02:39.820 Okay?

00:02:41.400 We have lottery tickets flying in the air with our grandma, grandparents.

00:02:46.040 Well, on Monday's episode, or I guess earlier this week, Wednesday's episode, we went through Lori and Kent's divorce documents, right?

00:02:54.380 The only two out of about six or so documents that were available.

00:02:57.880 And we determined that something wasn't right.

00:03:00.260 Four different dates to the alleged wedding between Lori and Kent.

00:03:04.540 An unnotarized child care agreement, plus a different date for Erica's birthday than the one initially listed in the Cincinnati News.

00:03:15.100 November 22nd, across four sets of documents.

00:03:18.000 But we cautioned people at home, like, hey, there's other docs.

00:03:22.080 Therefore, it's plausible that those remaining documents made some necessary changes.

00:03:27.640 Caution, I said.

00:03:28.460 Caution.

00:03:29.500 But you guys don't listen.

00:03:31.160 What if you guys went ahead and tore the caution tape down, sent to me all the remaining documents?

00:03:36.840 And those were interesting.

00:03:38.140 I'll have you know that Erica's birthday on all of them is November 22nd.

00:03:41.820 Yeah, it is.

00:03:42.920 Her name is spelled differently a few times, too.

00:03:44.720 Erica with a C. 0.66

00:03:46.020 We'll go over that next week.

00:03:47.700 That's what I want to talk about is a person that was in these documents.

00:03:51.020 There was another person mentioned, someone who was listed as the witness to these shenanigans.

00:03:57.320 That's how I am going to hither to refer to the divorce documents.

00:04:03.360 The shenanigans.

00:04:04.060 And that witness, his name is Richard Erpenbeck.

00:04:08.160 I'll show you that here.

00:04:08.960 Now, what I am blurring out on this document is it had his address, which allowed me to

00:04:15.040 definitively confirm which Rick Erpenbeck we were speaking about.

00:04:21.120 Who is the one that actually was the witness?

00:04:23.980 Erpenbeck, by the way, anybody that's gone through following any of the people on X that

00:04:29.680 had been deep diving alongside me, you will know that Erpenbeck is not an unusual name

00:04:33.660 when it comes to Lori's businesses.

00:04:35.120 This is actually the family that she uses many times to either notarize or to flat out

00:04:42.820 incorporate her very many LLCs, regarding which, I just want to say this, I'm never able to

00:04:49.000 figure out what the heck the purposes of these LLCs are.

00:04:52.940 What do these businesses actually do?

00:04:55.440 Lori has LLCs coming out of her ears. 1.00

00:04:58.980 Okay.

00:04:59.400 This is, Lori's got a lot going on.

00:05:03.340 And I want to say something else.

00:05:04.500 Her professional backstory in and of itself, it's odd.

00:05:07.980 It's kind of like Erica odd, to be honest, right?

00:05:10.780 Lori Ann was a model. 1.00

00:05:13.620 By her second marriage, we discover that she's working as a secretary.

00:05:17.780 She then must have fallen and bumped her head and became a technological genius.

00:05:23.220 There was no evidence of it.

00:05:24.080 But then suddenly, whoop, she's arrived and she is just putting together tech companies,

00:05:29.500 as many people do.

00:05:30.380 I am waiting for that late stage technological brilliance to fall upon me because I can barely

00:05:35.560 sort through my apps.

00:05:37.560 I don't even know how to get to the app store in a fast enough time.

00:05:40.320 Let me take you through the litany of LLCs that she has filed, this is Lori, which feature

00:05:47.560 Richard or Donna Erpenbeck as either the secretary, the incorporator, the notary, across a 25-year

00:05:58.820 period.

00:06:00.200 Okay.

00:06:01.040 Now, Lori filed for Eurotech in June of 1993.

00:06:04.760 What does it do?

00:06:05.260 Nobody knows.

00:06:06.160 But Rick was featured.

00:06:07.460 Lori and Rick filed for Eurotech International UK.

00:06:12.320 Nobody knows.

00:06:13.740 That was in 1995.

00:06:15.600 She filed for Tech Metrics International 1993.

00:06:19.920 And in the available 1998 docs pertaining to it, Richard Erpenbeck is again listed as

00:06:24.160 the secretary.

00:06:25.580 Lori and Rick filed for Tech Metrics Limited.

00:06:29.240 That's International UK in 1995.

00:06:31.520 She also filed for virtual registration, okay, in December of 1999.

00:06:39.300 You can see that we've got both Donna and Rick Erpenbeck had signed off on that.

00:06:47.140 Also, does that say, yeah, you see Lori's signature.

00:06:49.760 Everyone's kind of involved in getting these documents together.

00:06:52.200 And then we know Lori files for AZ Tech.

00:06:55.980 She goes to Arizona.

00:06:56.960 We're in Europe.

00:06:57.740 We're doing Tech Everywhere.

00:06:58.860 That's in August of 1997.

00:07:01.580 And she eventually renames that E3 Tech in 2017.

00:07:07.200 Again, her, Rick, Donna.

00:07:09.940 You can go through these talks yourself.

00:07:11.480 Their names are on there.

00:07:13.340 Now, look, I've been around.

00:07:14.400 I've seen some stuff.

00:07:15.360 I can tell you my instincts when I see a ton of LLCs, and I don't know what the heck they're

00:07:20.760 doing, especially when they're identifying themselves as tech, as a technology.

00:07:25.960 That should be easily identifiable.

00:07:27.540 Okay, you're a tech genius.

00:07:29.360 In my mind, and I'm not saying this is the circumstance, but my unprofessional opinion,

00:07:36.500 my mind goes to money laundering, right?

00:07:38.860 Got to get rid of money.

00:07:39.740 People got to start creating LLCs.

00:07:41.320 Now, you're thinking, you're very sensible.

00:07:43.840 Hey, maybe that's not the case.

00:07:45.060 There's no evidence for that good.

00:07:47.140 Even the thought of that, just thinking about that would make us a demon.

00:07:50.200 No, everything's above board, always.

00:07:53.240 Now, Rick Erpenbeck, under that scenario, might just be a fantastic businessman.

00:07:58.500 He certainly, like I said, is a longtime business associate of Lori's, following her from Ohio

00:08:02.700 to Arizona.

00:08:04.160 And also, there's Donna Erpenbeck mentioned, who's also featured on the divorce docs, 0.92

00:08:09.600 I mean, pardon, on her business docs. 0.80

00:08:11.980 So it sounds like it's a family business.

00:08:13.820 And ladies and gentlemen, I would like to tell you a little bit about that Erpenbeck family.

00:08:19.040 The Erpenbeck scandal, as it was termed, that went down between Ohio and Kentucky around 2002.

00:08:27.760 Oddly, the exact year that Lori and Erica move out, head out to Notre Dame Prep.

00:08:32.360 More on that later.

00:08:33.080 I'll have a timeline for you.

00:08:35.080 So there was a massive home-building company called Erpenbeck.

00:08:41.100 Erpenbeck Company, it was, as it sounds, owned and operated by generations of the Erpenbeck family.

00:08:46.560 The family had four brothers.

00:08:48.640 Bill Erpenbeck, our boy Rick Erpenbeck, Gary Erpenbeck, married to Donna Erpenbeck, who we just saw as a notary.

00:08:58.560 And we have Jeff Erpenbeck, plus their dad, Tony.

00:09:02.980 You're never going to forget their dad, Tony.

00:09:04.620 And their sister, Lori Ann Erpenbeck.

00:09:08.140 Now, the Erpenbecks approached new homeowners offering to help them with construction,

00:09:13.700 sometimes offering pathways for them to cut down financial fees pertaining to their new home ownership.

00:09:20.300 You know, pay us directly, we'll handle the rest kind of a deal.

00:09:22.940 Young people buying homes for the first time, but the homes, it turns out, were not being built.

00:09:29.040 And their mortgages, it turned out, were not being paid either.

00:09:32.980 Take a listen to this news clip.

00:09:35.240 Erpenbeck served 21 years after pleading guilty to defrauding banks of $34 million.

00:09:40.800 That was back in April of 2003.

00:09:43.480 So he was a home builder who funneled the proceeds from home closings back to his company and himself.

00:09:49.640 So his crimes left hundreds of homebuyers on the hook for millions of dollars in unpaid mortgages.

00:09:57.840 I really don't want to have that clip oversell to you, undersell to you, what went down.

00:10:02.900 I just want you guys to understand, like, what this case was about.

00:10:05.020 It was about missing money.

00:10:06.580 $34 million seemingly evaporated from well-meaning people who were trying to buy their homes.

00:10:12.520 It was, like I said, Ohio, Kentucky case that was for the ages.

00:10:16.220 I am talking real courtroom drama.

00:10:20.120 Forged documents.

00:10:22.260 Shady subcontractors.

00:10:24.580 Check out just some snippets from articles recapping this case.

00:10:28.780 I'm going to get to this part.

00:10:29.860 Lori.

00:10:30.520 Lori Ann Erpenbeck was a standout character.

00:10:34.120 Tells us that by 2004, Lori Erpenbeck seemingly had enough of her family. 0.84

00:10:38.840 She already knew that her brother Bill had thought about killing her.

00:10:42.080 So when dad, Tony, offered to give her $500 for her birthday, she then turned the conversation to her testimony about Bill.

00:10:50.800 She held her ground.

00:10:51.940 No, she was not going to lie under oath.

00:10:54.480 Pardon.

00:10:54.920 Tony offered her money to change her testimony about Bill.

00:10:59.780 Lori told her Lori about the conversation, and the FBI was looped in.

00:11:02.660 She agreed to wear a wire to capture information.

00:11:05.180 This is the sister.

00:11:06.400 Over the next few days, she met with her dad and Bill as they tried to convince her to agree to a fake storyline, and then she started the fraud to help the company's cash flow, and it got over her head.

00:11:18.040 Then she let Bill assume responsibility.

00:11:20.120 The FBI soon arrested both men.

00:11:22.080 Oh, okay.

00:11:22.700 Sister wore a wire. 1.00

00:11:24.100 Let's read this portion.

00:11:25.020 The proposed million-dollar hits.

00:11:28.140 Okay, Tony Erpenbeck, that's dad, had been in a federal medical prison in Lexington for just a few months when he tried to hire someone to murder and kidnap the people connected with putting him and his son behind bars.

00:11:40.960 He wanted then-senior U.S. District Judge S. Arthur Spiegel and then-retired assistant U.S. Attorney Kathleen Brinkman killed.

00:11:49.880 Tony also targeted an FBI agent's children.

00:11:52.220 He told a would-be hitman to bury the agent's three kids in a casket with crackers, water, and an air pipe for 10 days.

00:12:03.400 He recruited a fellow inmate about to be released from prison to commit the crimes, but the inmate flipped on Erpenbeck and wore a wire for the FBI.

00:12:10.500 The recording caught Tony Erpenbeck offering to pay fake hitman half a million dollars in gold stock first.

00:12:17.240 Ben Erpenbeck planned to pay the man and the other another half a million dollars from offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands after news of the kidnappings hit the newspapers.

00:12:26.880 Oh, okay, here's another piece of just this case.

00:12:30.820 This case is amazing.

00:12:32.700 This is a quarter million on the green.

00:12:35.060 Bill Erpenbeck lost thousands of dollars when he ratted out his own friend in 2009.

00:12:40.720 Oh, man, this one goes on, and he asked his friend to put a quarter million dollars to dig a hole and put the money in there so that he had a little cash when he got out.

00:12:50.440 Okay, another personal favorite portion of mine from the news of that day is the notary testifying that Rick's brother, Bill, would sometimes ask her to notarize documents while the person involved was not even present, right?

00:13:09.000 She said Bill Erpenbeck sometimes asked her to notarize documents when the people who supposedly had signed them were not in her presence.

00:13:17.280 Oh, yeah, that's illegal, and it is exactly what I pointed out to you guys.

00:13:23.420 Having not known this whole story and background, not knowing that this Rick was going to come out, come up in the documents that I couldn't access at the time, I said something's not right here.

00:13:33.820 I'm a notary up in New York.

00:13:35.320 That jumps out at me.

00:13:36.880 It seems odd that anybody would sign away their rights to a court case, a legal representation, without a notary being present.

00:13:44.140 That just did not seem to me to be a clerical error.

00:13:48.460 Anyway, documents in the court's absent notarization, it's not how court cases work.

00:13:55.780 It is to me, it looks to me like someone was looking the other way, like somebody maybe knew the county clerk and was up to no good.

00:14:04.800 Now, like they told you, like these newspapers are telling you, when things were going down, Lorianne, the sister, wanted to cooperate with the police.

00:14:14.580 That was a no-no, you'd never go against the family, so they started threatening her.

00:14:17.960 Then she goes into hiding until she gets a phone call from her dad, Tony, and her dad tells her,

00:14:24.240 It's the last time you might see me.

00:14:27.260 She thinks he's going to commit suicide.

00:14:28.800 So she runs down to the house, comes out of hiding, only to realize her brothers, Bill, Gary, Rick, they're there telling her,

00:14:36.880 Hey, hey, okay, brothers are there.

00:14:42.840 Flory doesn't care.

00:14:43.700 Like you read, we went through already, she wears wire for the feds, meets up with dad again, yada, yada, yada.

00:14:50.600 She's terrified Bill is going to kill her.

00:14:53.040 The recording is played in court.

00:14:54.340 They get him, they get Tony.

00:14:55.700 Bill pleads guilty.

00:14:56.520 He picks up additional charges for threatening to kill his sister.

00:15:00.080 He's ultimately sentenced to 30 years in prison.

00:15:03.800 He ends up serving 21 years after a judge later shortens his sentence.

00:15:08.880 His dad, Tony, who had just been sentenced to five years and 10 months for bank fraud,

00:15:14.880 with a concurrent sentence for 60 months for obstruction of justice,

00:15:18.660 well, he later then received another 20 years because, you know, he tried to hire the hitman

00:15:22.300 to kill the U.S. district judge and the U.S. attorney and the FBI agent's children.

00:15:30.180 Okay. 0.99

00:15:32.140 That's the Erpenbeck family.

00:15:34.520 Lori Ann, the sister, does a year, one count of bank fraud.

00:15:37.660 Brothers Gary and Jeff get off scot-free.

00:15:40.880 Rick Erpenbeck, the youngest of the Klan, Lori's Erpenbeck, agrees to let go of his Kentucky 0.91

00:15:47.900 legal license.

00:15:49.540 But he otherwise avoids any charges because his name was not on the business.

00:15:54.800 But he did have to testify.

00:15:56.460 And throughout his testimony, we learn that one of the big mysteries of this case was why

00:16:02.460 his father, Tony, had transferred so much money to LLCs that were under Rick's control.

00:16:10.320 We can read this together.

00:16:11.880 Here we go.

00:16:12.340 In his deposition Thursday, Rick Erpenbeck testified,

00:16:15.240 you'd have to ask my dad actually what was in his head.

00:16:19.260 I saw it as a good investment.

00:16:20.960 He had already always, you know, helped the other boys out from the beginning.

00:16:24.420 I was the one who worked two jobs, three jobs through college, two jobs through law school

00:16:29.060 while he was helping out, you know, the other boys, the Erpenbeck company.

00:16:32.000 And he wanted to give me the opportunity to purchase these assets.

00:16:35.600 That's, they say, right there, the biggest question to be answered is why Tony Erpenbeck

00:16:40.720 agreed to shift so much money into Rick Erpenbeck's control.

00:16:47.620 Oh, mystery.

00:16:49.840 Rick made out real nice because he wasn't involved with the business.

00:16:53.320 Just a hardworking kid.

00:16:55.480 Family's just up to it.

00:16:57.080 But you want to know what never happened?

00:16:58.400 You know who didn't make out nice?

00:16:59.340 The homeowners.

00:16:59.920 They never got their money back.

00:17:00.900 Where did it go?

00:17:01.600 Some of us, I mean, some of it, of course, went to Bill's lavish lifestyle.

00:17:05.960 But where did the rest of the money get siphoned off to?

00:17:08.120 It's just one big Scooby-Doo mystery.

00:17:11.560 Anyway, the story goes in 2024.

00:17:13.400 Bill Erpenbeck does get released from prison.

00:17:15.560 And apparently, like, it shows us he attempted to stow away some cash.

00:17:20.760 It's just like a never-ending scandal.

00:17:22.720 Take a listen.

00:17:24.060 The Erpenbeck name was back in the news in 2009 when FBI agents dug up a cooler full of

00:17:29.960 cash from Summit Hills Country Club in Crestview Hills.

00:17:33.180 A friend had buried money that he received from Erpenbeck on the course next to Erpenbeck's

00:17:38.540 former home.

00:17:39.940 Erpenbeck had hoped to use that money after he got out of prison.

00:17:43.580 Now, why is this relevant?

00:17:48.400 Why is this story relevant?

00:17:49.420 Because it just seems to be the case that fraud surrounds Lori. 0.88

00:17:53.980 Lori Fransfey, Walstead, whatever her name is.

00:17:56.760 Fraud just seems to surround her.

00:17:58.680 From her parents to her grandparents to the person that's doing her documents.

00:18:03.700 It's just always around her.

00:18:05.880 To her very many businesses, and nobody knows what they do, she just can't seem to get

00:18:10.420 away with it.

00:18:11.320 And do you know what's crazy?

00:18:12.600 To me, that despite her obviously being very much aware of who the Erpenbecks were, a case 1.00

00:18:19.740 which included attempts of coordinated murder and kidnapping of children, putting them into

00:18:26.780 boxes, Lori didn't seem scared.

00:18:30.060 No, she didn't go, hey, maybe I just don't want to.

00:18:32.680 I know it sounds like you really were just at school and you don't know why you got all

00:18:36.820 this money, but I'm good.

00:18:38.460 Yeah, I think if my lawyer called me, if Noah, if I looked into Noah and Noah's family's in

00:18:45.500 prison for murdering and putting people in boxes or threatening to put people in boxes

00:18:49.680 and it's a trial of a century, I'd say, you know what?

00:18:53.320 I can probably figure out how to incorporate my LLC by myself.

00:18:57.100 It's really easy now.

00:18:58.280 Everything's so easy these days.

00:18:59.580 I'm good, Noah.

00:19:00.380 Thank you.

00:19:01.560 Not Lori.

00:19:02.760 No, not for Lori.

00:19:04.300 She brings this guy in and just so happens to be, I know it's so coincidental, these are

00:19:08.140 clerical errors, just so happens to be that she's got some docs that look a little shady. 1.00

00:19:13.580 And I looked through those documents and no, it was not corrected.

00:19:18.080 And no, Erica's birthday never does, even across different documents, seem to go back

00:19:23.580 to the 20th.

00:19:25.560 So Lori did not at all, I guess, have the impetus to think that maybe working with this family

00:19:33.560 in any capacity was immoral, demonic.

00:19:39.220 What are some of the adjectives that they keep describing me as?

00:19:41.700 Yeah, all of those.

00:19:42.560 No, she was good.

00:19:44.480 It's interesting that Lori sends Erica to Tesseract in Arizona, and the school then suddenly

00:19:51.220 has to shutter its doors because it, once again, another financial scandal.

00:19:57.120 Money evaporates.

00:19:58.140 Nobody knows where it went.

00:19:59.900 People think that it may have been a scam.

00:20:02.060 That just keeps happening.

00:20:04.640 Poor, I mean, it must be just so scary for Erica to see this so much in her life.

00:20:12.240 I'm scared.

00:20:12.740 I'm scared for Erica.

00:20:13.740 That's why I'm doing this series.

00:20:14.700 I'm scared for her.

00:20:15.540 She's a grieving widow.

00:20:18.000 Later on, Lori's going to start working with the Farnsworths, camera guy taking down the

00:20:23.280 camera.

00:20:23.660 And then she's going to strike up this partnership with Tyler Boyer, this very shady COO of Turning

00:20:29.380 Point Action, who is going to introduce Erica to Charlie Kirk.

00:20:35.080 And in the background, Lori and Tyler are going to do business together.

00:20:38.100 Now, remember when people wondered why it was that Lori was a board member at Superfee Technologies?

00:20:47.640 And I'm in front of Erica, and I told you guys that the answer that Erica gave me was

00:20:52.500 because they just needed a familiar name.

00:20:57.940 Yeah.

00:20:58.980 I was born yesterday.

00:21:00.440 Let's go with that.

00:21:01.000 I was born on Thursday, yesterday.

00:21:05.080 And Tyler and Lori, by the way, Superfee already objectively involved in scandal.

00:21:12.500 You could look this up yourself.

00:21:13.860 Claims of bribery.

00:21:15.140 I think I had it, the headline in Yahoo News.

00:21:19.080 Kari Lake's bribery scandal involves a shady GOP tech firm. 0.99

00:21:24.260 Yeah, they're referring to Superfee Technologies.

00:21:27.660 Had its business revoked by the state of Arizona while it employed Jeff DeWitt, its former COO,

00:21:33.380 and Lake, who had received more than $100,000 from the entity in the personal financial disclosure

00:21:38.940 that she filed last month.

00:21:41.140 How weird.

00:21:43.160 How weird.

00:21:43.600 I just want to be clear.

00:21:46.480 Lori's a victim. 1.00

00:21:48.180 Everywhere she goes, this just happens.

00:21:50.080 Money goes missing everywhere she goes, even when her daughter's just going to school. 1.00

00:21:53.560 Okay.

00:21:54.980 And Tyler Boyer, probably the same.

00:21:57.060 I know that he recently required a literal federal pardon from the President of the United States

00:22:02.260 for fraud.

00:22:04.380 He was credibly accused of nine felonies related to trying to subvert the election,

00:22:09.020 including fraud, forgery, and conspiracy.

00:22:11.560 He's still facing state charges.

00:22:15.940 But that's just, everybody just doesn't understand how much Turning Point is going through right

00:22:20.900 now.

00:22:21.440 And they're really sad.

00:22:23.160 They're really sad.

00:22:24.580 They're grieving differently.

00:22:25.520 Yeah.

00:22:27.900 Now, I also broke the news to you.

00:22:29.900 I said at the top that Tyler Boyer is telling people that they are now going to get into the

00:22:35.900 real estate business to help young homeowners because it was Charlie's vision, right?

00:22:41.200 He's telling people that Charlie the Ghost, who they can manipulate to do whatever they want,

00:22:47.120 always, you know, he always tells students not to go to college and to instead get married

00:22:51.600 young.

00:22:52.060 And therefore, the next logical step would be for Turning Point to go into homeownership,

00:22:56.840 to help them become homeowners.

00:22:59.520 Trust the science.

00:23:00.960 If you think that's weird, that's because you're demonic.

00:23:06.080 Erica's grieving widow.

00:23:07.260 Lori, in case you missed it, is the one person that Erica now posts for sympathy. 0.98

00:23:12.460 She's curating Lori, right, to let you know that Lori is sick. 0.59

00:23:17.360 That, to me, felt like a person I should probably be looking into, right?

00:23:21.400 How dare you have any questions about anything right now?

00:23:23.300 Do you know where Erica's going?

00:23:23.940 She just lost her husband and her mom's sick. 0.99

00:23:26.640 I think these people are sick in the head. 0.96

00:23:29.920 There is something very wrong with Lori. 1.00

00:23:32.560 There is something very wrong with Erica.

00:23:34.960 And there is something very wrong with this picture of Lori, Tyler, and Erica Kirk being together.

00:23:41.460 There just is.

00:23:42.960 It's my opinion.

00:23:43.860 It's my show. 1.00

00:23:44.920 They really think we are this stupid. 0.99

00:23:48.300 Anyway, we'll be right back after a quick break. 0.99

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00:26:49.820 So, who is Erica Kirk?

00:26:52.820 My answer is Lori's child.

00:26:55.920 I think Lori comes first.

00:26:56.960 Lori has always come first, and Lori is exceedingly problematic, okay? 0.97

00:27:01.220 I understand she is sick.

00:27:03.760 I understand someday George Soros is going to be sick, okay?

00:27:07.360 Doesn't mean that we don't get to discuss the things he is involved in.

00:27:10.660 A question that I was asking is, what went on with this marriage between Lori and Kent,

00:27:16.600 this alleged marriage between Lori and Kent?

00:27:18.920 Why do I feel like it's not even a real marriage?

00:27:22.520 I see no evidence of the marriage occurring, or it just seems like a—I don't know if a

00:27:28.360 marriage can occur across 16 years.

00:27:30.080 I don't know if it can happen that many times across two documents.

00:27:35.460 And like I said, we have the other documents, and we will show you them at the beginning

00:27:38.440 of next week.

00:27:39.620 Well, fortunately for me, another sleuth, someone in Marbleham, Massachusetts, said,

00:27:45.080 how can I help?

00:27:45.640 I have access to documents here.

00:27:47.120 I can take a look and see what I can find.

00:27:48.900 Lori and Kent.

00:27:49.460 And they were not able to pull up any marriage documents.

00:27:53.440 Doesn't mean that they don't exist.

00:27:55.840 But they were able to pull up some deeds where Lori and Kent had signed the deeds over,

00:28:02.680 and when they had first received the deed, to their home in Marblehead, Massachusetts.

00:28:06.680 And there's a little interesting tidbit here where Lori and Kent are listing as having been

00:28:13.720 a couple from Rhode Island, from North Kingstown, Rhode Island.

00:28:21.700 North Kingstown, Rhode Island.

00:28:22.760 First off, I want to tell you that that's not a place.

00:28:25.320 So there's Kingston.

00:28:26.100 I would know, because I went to the University of Rhode Island.

00:28:28.880 There's clerical errors, but there's Kingston, Rhode Island, which is about two miles long,

00:28:33.560 and is just the University of Rhode Island campus, where I graduated from.

00:28:37.000 And then there's South Kingstown, North Kingstown, and apparently they lived there,

00:28:42.100 except they can't find a trace of Lori and Kent having lived in Rhode Island.

00:28:48.260 So my Rhode Island sleuths, people down at the county maybe in Rhode Island,

00:28:54.040 if you want to take a peek and see if you can find this couple, this lovely couple,

00:28:58.720 and maybe they got married in Rhode Island.

00:29:00.880 Well, I guess no, because they're divorce talks here.

00:29:02.360 They got married in Marblehead, Massachusetts.

00:29:03.700 But people are saying they can't find those divorce talks,

00:29:05.480 but this makes it seem like they maybe got married in Rhode Island.

00:29:07.680 Well, you can maybe just get married in Marblehead while you're living together in Rhode Island.

00:29:11.480 Maybe they were renting property.

00:29:13.000 I don't know, but I want to know.

00:29:17.440 If you find something, Rhode Islanders, hit me up. 1.00

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00:29:26.500 Now jumping back into our Erica timeline.

00:29:30.400 Now, we talked about how she went to this school, Tesseract.

00:29:33.320 It's also going to be a scam, financial scam, but that's fine.

00:29:36.260 She's the victim.

00:29:36.800 After Erica Fransfey leaves Tesseract in 2000 because the school is facing a financial crisis,

00:29:46.700 I also want to point out, like I said, the school is being run by Jewish women. 0.55

00:29:50.140 They're even renting from a Jewish school the Looking Glass. 0.75

00:29:55.560 And stereotypically, I want to say something.

00:29:57.620 Stereotypically, Jewish people are known for very good accounting, but not in this case.

00:30:00.480 Not sure what happened there.

00:30:01.300 Thereafter, there is evidence, and we have not been able to find anything concrete,

00:30:06.400 but there is evidence that Erica went back up to Ohio for about three years, from 2000 to 2002.

00:30:15.180 She apparently attended a school known as St. Ursula Villa.

00:30:20.620 St. Ursula Villa is actually separate from St. Ursula Academy.

00:30:25.440 It's a privately owned, and at first glance, you would think it was a Catholic school,

00:30:30.060 but actually, despite its name, despite it being on the St. Ursula Academy property,

00:30:37.280 it was not owned by the nuns, as St. Ursula Academy was.

00:30:42.160 St. Ursula Villa actually had private funding.

00:30:46.040 In private, it was completely separate from the Catholic Church at this time,

00:30:50.420 from what I'm able to see.

00:30:51.300 So, and I cannot pull up who was funding this school at that time.

00:30:56.720 So, if you have yearbooks from St. Ursula Villa, not the broader Academy, but St. Ursula Villa,

00:31:03.140 from the years 2002, let's take it up to 2003, and you see Erica Fransfay in there,

00:31:12.040 or you remember her being there, please reach out to us.

00:31:15.260 Like I said, these two schools were operating same place, separate entities.

00:31:19.380 Send us an email.

00:31:19.800 What happens next in her life, though, is pretty easy to document.

00:31:23.940 Erica is at Notre Dame Prep, and I should note, I did not know this at the time,

00:31:29.680 but Notre Dame Prep was formerly the Tesseract School,

00:31:33.320 the one that they had to shutter in North Scottsdale.

00:31:36.080 Now the doors are reopened, and it's Notre Dame Prep.

00:31:39.740 And it's very easy to document Erica throughout these years.

00:31:42.940 In 2003, she's playing volleyball because she gets involved in sports.

00:31:47.060 We can just find her.

00:31:49.180 And I also want to say this.

00:31:51.160 It's also easy to track her because despite her claim that she got into pageantry because she got a mailer one year.

00:31:59.980 Let's roll that clip of what she said again yesterday.

00:32:01.940 Was it after that that's when you started pageants, or when did that come about? 0.95

00:32:08.700 Right.

00:32:09.280 So the pageant world to me is something that it was an interesting season of life.

00:32:14.980 It was nothing that I was ever groomed for.

00:32:17.840 It was nothing that was ever on my radar.

00:32:19.280 I just, yeah, I wanted to play professional basketball.

00:32:25.020 You're a tomboy.

00:32:25.460 That was my thing ever since I was five.

00:32:27.620 Like, that was my, I wanted to play, and that was all I wanted to do.

00:32:32.360 I was a gym rat, for lack of a better term.

00:32:34.660 And I remember getting something in the mail when I had come home from school one summer,

00:32:40.760 and it was like, hey, you should compete at Miss Arizona USA.

00:32:44.140 Someone nominated you, and I was like, I don't know who would nominate me for that, but okay.

00:32:49.080 So I shared it with my mom, and I was reviewing all the different things that you have to go through,

00:32:53.900 and I thought to myself, if I were to ever win this, the most important thing out of it would be to be able to make a difference with the title.

00:33:02.580 I don't care about the photo shoots.

00:33:03.920 I just want to be able to overbook myself, being able to get involved with the local communities,

00:33:09.400 with the local organizations that are actually making a difference.

00:33:13.680 So the pageant world for me was something that was not a form of narcissism.

00:33:18.100 It was more along the terms of being a steward for my state, especially as it hit our 100th year celebration.

00:33:27.060 Okay, so it wasn't about narcissism.

00:33:29.020 She wasn't groomed. 0.96

00:33:30.460 By the way, if you have to say that you weren't groomed for something, you probably were.

00:33:33.820 You'll have to just kind of say that.

00:33:35.240 It's probably because you were.

00:33:36.640 And the reality is that every single year from 2005 through to 2012, Erica was involved in beauty pageants.

00:33:47.080 So that's seven years of her life that we could find.

00:33:49.900 There could be more.

00:33:50.900 There could be—she could have been doing pageantry while she was in Ohio for a couple of years.

00:33:54.980 I'll let you know.

00:33:55.520 Keep you posted.

00:33:55.940 I should also add here that some pageant women disputed her narrative. 1.00

00:34:01.040 They wrote to us that she was just randomly invited.

00:34:03.320 They said that minors in particular are not just freely solicited to join pageant world

00:34:08.100 and that their photo has to be submitted by a parent or a guardian.

00:34:11.880 I'm not an expert on that.

00:34:13.760 Maybe I wasn't pretty enough.

00:34:15.100 I was a little funny looking.

00:34:16.400 I had a little bit of an underbite.

00:34:17.500 But I never received any of these mailers that she's talking about.

00:34:20.120 Anyway, let's jump into an Erica timeline, and you guys can follow along here.

00:34:25.100 2005, Erica is still attending Notre Dame Prep, and she is playing basketball.

00:34:33.200 She was a junior in high school from 2005, 2006.

00:34:37.980 She is going to win first runner-up in the National America Miss Arizona pageant,

00:34:45.560 and she will represent Arizona in the upcoming All-American Miss pageant in November of 2005,

00:34:52.300 which takes place in Los Angeles.

00:34:54.540 That year, Lori Fransfay is listed in the House bill budget for the U.S. Department of Homeland

00:35:01.100 Securities for another business that she has called IMET Laboratories.

00:35:06.540 Like I said, don't ask me what any of her businesses do.

00:35:09.440 It's not clear.

00:35:10.100 In August, just ahead of Erica's senior year, this is 2006 now, in August, just ahead of

00:35:16.740 her senior year, she's going to win the National American Miss Teen pageant, and she wins a

00:35:24.220 chance and takes it to travel to D.C. to present her plans to Representative J.D.

00:35:30.140 Hayworth and Senator John Kill.

00:35:33.560 Erica becomes involved with a charity known as Andrea's Closet, which works with her

00:35:40.100 with a hospital in Winslow, Arizona, for kids.

00:35:44.820 Erica notes that she stops by that hospital often on the way to basketball games and that

00:35:50.300 she wants to establish her own charity in the future.

00:35:54.100 That year, her father, Kent Fransfay, is listed as a risk assessment contractor.

00:36:00.800 He's mentioned also as a resident of Surprise, Arizona, concerned, basically, he's trying to

00:36:06.960 get more funding from the DHS.

00:36:08.580 You get this sense that now the family is like, we need government contracts for stuff.

00:36:13.940 That'll work for us.

00:36:15.780 Lori is going to have to close down Virtual Registration, International Incorporated, one

00:36:23.800 that Rick helped her open, because the tax department force closes it for lack of a tax 0.94

00:36:29.040 filing.

00:36:29.360 So that tends to happen a lot with some of these LLCs.

00:36:33.500 In 2007, we have Erica winning the Miss American, I'm sorry, her teen year begins.

00:36:40.260 So you kind of, you have the pageant at the end of a year, and then you have the crown for

00:36:46.080 the following year, for those of you who are like me and do not know how pageantry world

00:36:49.160 works.

00:36:49.600 So if you're competing in 2006, you are competing for 2007, and then 2007 is going to be your

00:36:56.040 year.

00:36:56.440 So that is her America Miss American team year.

00:36:59.260 And that is also the year that she's going to graduate from Notre Dame Prep in the spring,

00:37:04.280 receiving a full basketball and academic scholarship to Regis University, which is in Denver, Colorado.

00:37:11.720 She is also named as a finalist for the Arizona Interscholastic Association's Everyday Heroes

00:37:21.100 Award.

00:37:22.260 Hey, that's the first time you're going to hear an expression, everyday heroes.

00:37:25.820 We know that's going to end up being what she calls her charity once it gets minted in

00:37:29.340 2009, but that's it.

00:37:31.540 She got an award for that, and I guess it's stuck.

00:37:33.420 In the 2007 and 2008 school year, Erica is going to begin playing basketball.

00:37:42.120 She got the scholarship, and she does that.

00:37:44.560 Regis University begins in the fall.

00:37:46.720 I could find two newspaper entries of her scoring, November 24th game against South Dakota, and

00:37:55.440 then another entry on December 1st.

00:37:57.420 And, yeah, she's seemingly, if I was just following the paper trail, I would say she

00:38:03.320 had abandoned her scholarship.

00:38:05.060 And I was wondering, like, did she transfer to Loyola Marymount?

00:38:08.800 Like, what happened here?

00:38:10.960 And you should know, of course, never leave, never leave Lori out.

00:38:17.200 Lori is, first off, she's listed now as having been married to Larry Guinta.

00:38:22.100 That's the first time that we see that because Joe Abbas dies, and it looks like she is married.

00:38:29.360 Lori and Larry, maybe they're saying that they're just together.

00:38:31.960 Who knows?

00:38:32.420 And that's why they're listing him.

00:38:33.800 I'm not positive.

00:38:35.180 But Lori, every year, there's always a new LLC.

00:38:37.900 So Lori is going to file AZ Tech International with Rick Erpenbeck on the documents, and that

00:38:44.420 will, oh, I'm sorry, they had already filed that.

00:38:48.240 It gets canceled by the tax department.

00:38:49.860 That's right.

00:38:50.280 There's so many LLCs and so many cancellations.

00:38:53.960 This one gets canceled.

00:38:56.500 2008 is where it gets pretty interesting because I was trying to find Erica's very present.

00:39:01.120 And suddenly in 2008, I can't find her.

00:39:03.500 OK, I put this as like Erica's missing school year.

00:39:06.900 Now, she herself disputes this in various times.

00:39:11.180 She says she played basketball for two years, and she's going to note in a future alumni packet

00:39:15.820 for Notre Dame that she was indeed playing basketball at Regis University for two years.

00:39:21.300 But I could not confirm that.

00:39:23.360 And interestingly enough, Regis University still has her basketball stat page up.

00:39:29.260 And they're on my side.

00:39:30.460 They say they only have a record of her playing from 2007 to 2008.

00:39:35.760 That's the season that she played.

00:39:37.720 Now, she may have just stayed on. 0.98

00:39:39.060 It's possible that she continued her study.

00:39:41.340 She said she had an academic scholarship at Regis.

00:39:44.460 I thought that.

00:39:45.080 I was like, maybe she stopped playing basketball and she decided to just focus on her studies.

00:39:49.200 And that's why I can't find her at basketball games.

00:39:52.140 Maybe that's why Regis is not acknowledging that she continued to play.

00:39:56.640 But then I thought, no, I think something else happened here.

00:40:01.580 She does indeed go missing because Erica gives an interview in 2020 where she's reflecting

00:40:07.900 on her life.

00:40:08.860 It's a rather obscure interview, which has since been removed, by the way.

00:40:15.380 They contacted someone and got this taken down, but not before I got it, not before I got it

00:40:18.840 and saved it.

00:40:19.400 As soon as I saw it, I said, save this.

00:40:20.660 They're going to start going backwards and trying to delete stuff.

00:40:22.640 And this one was a gem.

00:40:23.860 And she's going to confirm that after she passes her crown.

00:40:28.440 So in 2007, she's wearing the crown and then she passes her crown.

00:40:32.260 She is going to confirm that she does indeed go missing during after that period.

00:40:37.860 So this would be, of course, in 2008.

00:40:40.500 Take a listen to what Erica says herself.

00:40:43.440 I prayed for God to just strip my ego from all of that stuff, all of that world, all of

00:40:49.720 the plastic hat crown stuff with the banner.

00:40:53.700 That was just, it was never, it was me from the standpoint of a philanthropic side, but

00:40:58.840 the hometown hero thing was just weird and it was unhealthy and it was just ego fueling.

00:41:04.440 So I locked myself in my room, basically turned into a hermit for about a good eight months.

00:41:10.160 The only person I would see outside of my family was my pastor's wife. 1.00

00:41:14.080 And we would go to the church and she would just pour into me every single day.

00:41:19.640 And I just was reading scripture and read the Bible cover to cover multiple times.

00:41:27.520 That is very interesting.

00:41:31.160 How can an active college student purport to see no one but her mother and her pastor's

00:41:35.720 wife for eight months?

00:41:36.960 She says nobody saw her.

00:41:38.700 Check.

00:41:39.220 That's true.

00:41:39.700 I'm highlighting this particular period of time because I suspect that this could potentially

00:41:43.920 represent a time when Erica trained to become a Christian.

00:41:47.660 Again, this is my personal opinion.

00:41:49.660 It's my podcast.

00:41:50.560 But given what we've learned about Fort Huachuca, an intel base that literally trains Christians, 0.66

00:41:55.720 I'm asking myself, was she just training?

00:41:58.420 Was she training to become a Christian?

00:42:01.180 Was she training to be able to impress people like Charlie by just always having a Bible verse?

00:42:07.380 Now she can't even get a sentence. 0.98

00:42:09.700 Without making it somehow a Bible verse or a holy in some degree.

00:42:14.460 And there's something that registers to people as off about that.

00:42:16.980 I want to know, who is her pastor's wife? 0.99

00:42:20.400 Who is the pastor's wife? 1.00

00:42:22.000 It was the only person that saw Erica for eight months.

00:42:24.800 And again, she is dating when this happened herself.

00:42:27.020 She says she hands over her crown.

00:42:28.600 She wanted to strip herself from all this plastic.

00:42:31.240 And by strip herself, she means she's going to then continue to compete every single year.

00:42:34.260 In fact, she competes that year too.

00:42:37.040 But who is the pastor's wife? 0.99

00:42:38.300 Uh, we tried to find out by going through her old tweets via an account that Erica has since locked down.

00:42:46.140 Shout out to the mommy sleuth who said, hey, Candace, I have access.

00:42:50.860 Do you want my password?

00:42:53.240 Special shout out to that hero.

00:42:55.540 So, not all heroes wear capes.

00:42:57.680 Some people just have logins on X, okay?

00:43:00.960 And what we were able to discern, and again, we're putting this as a possibility.

00:43:04.460 And since Turning Point didn't answer our first slate of questions, there's no point.

00:43:09.180 And, oh, actually, we particularly went out to them two days ago with this specific question, who was the pastor?

00:43:13.160 They didn't answer.

00:43:13.720 But we thought a possible church could be the City of Grace, which is in Scottsdale, City of Grace of Scottsdale.

00:43:22.880 Pastor Terry Crist is mentioned on her X feed as early as 2011.

00:43:29.200 She says, Pastor Terry is awesome.

00:43:32.260 We've got some more tweets here.

00:43:34.140 I cherish your friendship, and I am grateful for your love.

00:43:37.540 Judith Crist, that would be his wife. 0.52

00:43:39.480 You are the epitome of a Proverbs. 1.00

00:43:41.020 I am totally obsessed with City of Grace, she says.

00:43:43.180 Sunday mornings with my Tyler Massey.

00:43:45.220 Oh, no, you guys know Tyler Massey.

00:43:47.000 She didn't date anybody before.

00:43:48.780 Charlie, oh, no, you guys are messing up.

00:43:51.480 My heart is overwhelmed with incredible amounts of joy.

00:43:54.940 Congratulations, Terry Crist.

00:43:56.820 Judith Crist.

00:43:58.480 The vibes are vibing.

00:43:59.840 Now, coincidentally, and I'm going to bring Ashley on in a second to explain a little more,

00:44:06.500 but I'll tell you that Pastor Terry is very close with Brian Houston, the Hillsong Church founder

00:44:11.560 who infamously attempted to cover up his father's pedophilia.

00:44:17.380 Brian Houston, on his father, who was never charged, said, quote,

00:44:23.500 I have no doubt now that my father was a serial pedophile and will probably never know the extent of it.

00:44:28.340 That's from him. That's a quote from him.

00:44:31.240 She has been friends since 1994.

00:44:36.480 So Erica has been friends with them.

00:44:37.860 So let me bring on Ashley to explain that the Terry Crist and Judith and the relation in a better manner

00:44:45.500 because she's way deeper down that rabbit hole than I am.

00:44:48.160 Yeah, so like we said, Pastor Terry Crist and his wife, Pastor Judith Crist,

00:44:56.140 they were very close with Erica at this time from 2011 to around 2016 is where we can track their relationship.

00:45:05.260 And interestingly, Pastor Terry Crist has a very interesting background.

00:45:09.500 So he is very good friends with Brian Houston, who was the founder of Hillsong.

00:45:16.620 And like you said, he was very much like he covered up his father's pedophilia for years,

00:45:24.120 and he actually never got charged for it.

00:45:26.200 And so Brian Houston resigned eventually.

00:45:29.720 And then right afterwards, Pastor Terry Crist also resigned from his church that he was leading,

00:45:35.920 but he said it wasn't related.

00:45:36.800 So nothing to see there.

00:45:38.480 And then one other weird thing that happened was Pastor Terry Crist and his wife were accused of having,

00:45:45.880 well, this is just word on the street, but they would have their congregants like throw up into bags

00:45:50.680 to get rid of big bad spirits.

00:45:52.640 And so that's just word on the street, allegedly.

00:45:56.460 Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

00:45:57.820 I will say that even regarding the pastor, even though his son is making the allegation

00:46:01.940 that he believes his father was pedophile, if he was not charged,

00:46:04.700 then we cannot state that definitively.

00:46:08.300 But, you know, there seems to be some smoke there.

00:46:10.460 That is what has been alleged even by his own son.

00:46:14.680 And like I said, I'm not deep on that, but it is interesting.

00:46:17.300 And I am not certain this is the pastor's wife that she went into training with.

00:46:21.480 I'm not certain she had to throw up in a bag, you know, to get rid of bad spirits.

00:46:26.060 But I do know that YouTube will do what it has to do.

00:46:29.180 The YouTube creators will do what they have to do.

00:46:31.300 The Baron Coleman's, the Nisa's, they'll do what they have to do to get to the bottom of that. 1.00

00:46:37.060 Because this is an interesting turning point in Erica's life, in my view.

00:46:42.460 And she strikes me as someone who there are going to be some psychiatrists in her life

00:46:48.680 and some psychologists.

00:46:50.080 There's just that is what people are perceiving is a spiritual darkness.

00:46:54.600 And sometimes spiritual darkness comes from people who are purporting to be spiritually light.

00:47:00.660 People who can't get a sentence without saying the Lord, the Lord, the Lord

00:47:03.880 could have something else going on, as we just learned with the Hillsong scandal.

00:47:10.060 Look, that's all we know for sure.

00:47:12.560 Otherwise, we can confirm to you guys that despite Erica's hiatus,

00:47:18.980 eight-month hiatus, according to her,

00:47:20.740 she does make it to compete for Miss USA Colorado 2009.

00:47:25.920 And she places third runner-up.

00:47:28.800 So that's 2008.

00:47:29.900 We are going to leave it there.

00:47:32.020 We can show you if you want to,

00:47:33.540 I guess we will, you already saw the timeline, so you guys are good.

00:47:36.700 We're going to take a very brief break.

00:47:39.560 We'll be right back.

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00:50:51.580 I just have to say, people have lost their minds.

00:50:53.960 I just truly have to say I am sickened by how dishonest people are right now.

00:50:59.920 Everyone out here making it, there's nothing to see here.

00:51:03.580 She's just a green widow. 1.00

00:51:05.120 Everybody's fine at Turning Point.

00:51:06.680 These people love Charlie.

00:51:08.040 These people didn't even write their own speeches for his memorial.

00:51:12.300 Take it to the bank.

00:51:13.660 They didn't even write their own speeches.

00:51:15.240 For the memorial.

00:51:17.600 They had people writing their speeches.

00:51:19.520 That's how little these people cared about Charlie Kirk.

00:51:22.300 Charlie was a means to them. 0.57

00:51:25.080 Go ahead, call me a monster.

00:51:26.160 Make a video.

00:51:27.760 They're out here telling you, it's okay.

00:51:29.700 I'm gonna debunk what Candace is saying.

00:51:32.400 No, Erica lied. 0.96

00:51:33.840 No, okay, well, yeah, well.

00:51:36.200 That's how some people grieve.

00:51:37.140 They grieve by lying.

00:51:38.320 They grieve by lying.

00:51:40.120 You guys need to settle down.

00:51:43.140 Why do you care so much if she's lying?

00:51:46.140 Why do you care so much that she suddenly apparently had a clear enough mind to decide that she wanted to take the board to a boat to make her the CEO while her children are not at home? 0.99

00:51:54.740 Why do you care so much?

00:51:56.500 It's weird.

00:51:57.020 You guys are the weird ones.

00:51:58.660 How's that PSYOP going?

00:51:59.800 It's failing.

00:52:00.240 We literally do not care at all what everybody is saying on the internet that is clearly being paid to say the same thing.

00:52:09.000 If you find the most demonic thing that happened in all of this to be me investigating it and investigating whether or not the people that are taking over Turning Point USA are actually going to be good stewards of the billions, alleged billions going forward.

00:52:25.780 If you find that to be the most demonic thing, you're out of order, my dude.

00:52:30.080 You're just out of order.

00:52:30.880 You're just out of order.

00:52:32.340 You know when you used to see like you go to the machine and a soda can just has like a little piece of paper out of order?

00:52:37.820 That's you right now.

00:52:38.880 You're just out of whack.

00:52:40.660 You know what?

00:52:41.040 Lori reminds me.

00:52:42.540 I got to say this.

00:52:43.160 I shouldn't say it.

00:52:44.200 But I just get the vibe.

00:52:45.160 I look at her and I just know.

00:52:47.240 You know?

00:52:47.800 I don't know, but I know.

00:52:49.220 She gives me Grandpa Joe vibes.

00:52:51.860 You know Grandpa Joe?

00:52:53.060 He was like a number one.

00:52:54.060 He got away with it.

00:52:54.920 Nobody even thinks about Grandpa Joe and Willy Wonka and Machaka Factory.

00:52:59.560 He was out there.

00:53:00.440 He's, oh, hey, Charlie.

00:53:01.460 Oh, I'm sick.

00:53:02.020 Hey, nice to see you visit.

00:53:03.240 Charlie pulled out a golden ticket.

00:53:05.340 Grandpa Joe did a whole dance routine?

00:53:08.200 He said, oh, look, I'm good.

00:53:09.480 Let's go.

00:53:10.800 And then Grandpa Joe.

00:53:12.940 Look, it's Grandpa.

00:53:14.860 That's Lori. 0.62

00:53:16.680 That's Lori. 0.62

00:53:17.420 And then Grandpa Joe, he gets down.

00:53:19.560 He's the factory.

00:53:20.100 Charlie was a good kid.

00:53:21.120 He's a good kid.

00:53:21.700 Charlie was a very good kid.

00:53:22.520 Grandpa Joe gets down to the factory.

00:53:23.940 He tells him, steal the recipe.

00:53:25.480 Steal the recipe.

00:53:26.840 Give it to Slugbirth. 0.98

00:53:29.060 Vibes.

00:53:30.620 I never misread them.

00:53:32.000 Vibes.

00:53:33.760 Anyway, some more Erica lies. 1.00

00:53:36.480 We'll get into that next week.

00:53:38.040 But I just now reflect on her telling me during our sit-down that she received the questions

00:53:44.260 ahead of time for her interview with Barry Weiss.

00:53:46.500 Like, she knew that Barry was going to ask a question about me.

00:53:49.300 You know, she said, you know, they didn't rehearse her answers, but she knew what they

00:53:52.140 were going to ask, obviously.

00:53:53.500 And therefore, we can conclude that none of the questions caught her off guard.

00:54:00.120 She definitely thought through recounting her time in New York City, whether or not she

00:54:06.520 was dating.

00:54:07.240 And I want you to pay special attention now, because it's even crazier in the retrospect,

00:54:11.640 to her body language as she's about to tell us that she didn't date anybody for five years

00:54:18.740 before she met Charlie, take a listen to this.

00:54:23.200 I'm a 26-year-old Christian woman living in New York City.

00:54:26.600 I would like to stay here long term, but I wonder whether it's sustainable.

00:54:31.200 Do you believe there's a place for women like myself in modern cities who care about having 0.99

00:54:36.440 a career, but also marrying a like-minded Christian conservative man?

00:54:40.680 Well, yeah, so it just depends on where you're looking, you know, if you're on the apps.

00:54:48.500 I don't know if you're on the apps.

00:54:49.620 I don't know if—I'm not going to ask you your personal journey.

00:54:54.120 But what I will say is, when I lived out here, I was here for five years, I never dated here,

00:55:00.000 because I saw vicariously through my roommate how terrible it was.

00:55:03.820 Somehow getting drinks was the replacement of having coffee and breakfast.

00:55:07.960 I personally would rather have coffee or brunch with someone than going—I just—I don't drink.

00:55:12.720 I find it unproductive, not because I'm holier than whatever.

00:55:16.600 That's not—I just don't operate that way.

00:55:19.380 But I always thought it was very strange how she would go to drinks with one guy and then

00:55:24.200 go to dinner with another.

00:55:25.900 So it goes twofold here.

00:55:27.900 So if you're expecting to marry someone that I was blessed with, like a Charlie, you have

00:55:33.520 to be the type of woman that will attract a Charlie. 1.00

00:55:36.360 Are you going to church?

00:55:37.960 Are you going to Bible study?

00:55:39.560 Did you tell your pastor that you are ready for the Lord to bring into your life the man

00:55:44.620 that you've been praying for?

00:55:46.240 You yourself need to be prepared for that man, and only you will know how to do that.

00:55:51.360 Does that mean staying out and going out with the girls?

00:55:53.820 I'm not saying you sit on your couch and all of a sudden he's going to knock on your door

00:55:56.720 and be like, honey, let's rendezvous.

00:55:59.560 Like, that's not how it happens.

00:56:01.500 It's not.

00:56:02.320 Granted, my situation was a little different.

00:56:04.080 I wouldn't do it.

00:56:04.980 You went to a job interview.

00:56:05.960 Literally, so this is how good the Lord is.

00:56:08.580 He knew that because I was not dating in New York City, he knew that in order for me to

00:56:14.460 know that that was my man, he had to blanket Charlie as a job interview.

00:56:19.600 Because if that went in, no joke, if he came to me and said, hey, let's go on a date to

00:56:24.560 Bill's Burgers, I'd be like, I am so sorry.

00:56:27.120 I thank you.

00:56:28.320 But no, we're not doing this.

00:56:29.780 That was my mindset.

00:56:30.880 I'm not.

00:56:31.620 I was not in that headspace.

00:56:33.940 I just wasn't.

00:56:37.840 Yeah.

00:56:39.480 It's crazy in the retrospect.

00:56:41.140 Who is the Lord?

00:56:42.360 Is it the Lori?

00:56:44.980 Is it the Lori?

00:56:48.100 Or the Lord?

00:56:50.560 Is it the Lori?

00:56:53.160 I don't know.

00:56:54.560 But I'm going to find out.

00:56:56.060 Because there's some interesting things that happen in this timeline as we start to go forward.

00:57:00.220 Ask yourself, what is the intended purpose of that lie?

00:57:03.760 Not necessary.

00:57:04.860 Who is the intended audience for that lie?

00:57:08.140 That is completely unnecessary.

00:57:09.740 Nobody that I know would judge Erica if she was like, you know what? 0.99

00:57:15.500 I was down.

00:57:16.500 I was like Candace.

00:57:17.280 I was down at One Oak.

00:57:18.700 I was eating pizza at 3 a.m. in the morning at Artichoke.

00:57:22.420 Okay.

00:57:22.720 And then my life cleaned up after that.

00:57:26.080 And I'm so grateful that I met a wonderful person like Charlie.

00:57:29.000 I did the 20s hard in New York City.

00:57:31.600 No one, there's no expectation for her to pretend she never dated anybody.

00:57:37.220 Like she just was, oh, you know, I was sitting at home observing, observing my roommate and

00:57:41.500 going, hmm, so terrible.

00:57:43.420 No, please.

00:57:44.480 No.

00:57:46.460 The Lori knew.

00:57:47.200 The Lori knew exactly what I needed, which was Charlie.

00:57:51.480 And the Tyler knew.

00:57:53.400 I would have to be sat down and told that it was a business opportunity and what the

00:58:00.700 Lori knew was probably everything about Charlie.

00:58:03.760 Just like people say that Lori tells her what to say and who to target in every room. 0.56

00:58:07.820 I find that to be likely.

00:58:12.520 I can't no-no that.

00:58:13.560 But I don't think Lori or Erica is going to cop to that.

00:58:17.580 But when people are saying it across various points in her life, that the common denominator

00:58:21.300 is Lori, yeah, that feels right to me.

00:58:24.820 Her whole demeanor there is just crazy.

00:58:26.460 What's the purpose of that lie?

00:58:29.480 And of course, you guys, I hate to tell you this, but the reality is that from 2013 to

00:58:33.800 2018, the five years preceding her relationship with Charlie, Charlie, Erica had multiple boyfriends.

00:58:40.840 She rang in the new year with a boyfriend, okay, in 2018.

00:58:44.960 So yeah, no, the correct sentence should be, I did not have a boyfriend in New York.

00:58:53.700 I didn't go out to meet a boyfriend because I already had one.

00:58:56.240 And maybe he was living in D.C. or something.

00:58:58.320 But that's the reason that I didn't go.

00:58:59.700 I had a boyfriend.

00:59:00.540 That's the answer.

00:59:02.240 I always had a boyfriend.

00:59:03.460 And they were in different cities.

00:59:06.400 So there was not actually a single year that we could find that Erica France Bay was single.

00:59:12.500 Opposite of what she says to be true.

00:59:14.800 Like I said, more on that next week.

00:59:16.080 We're going to have a quick break and then I'll get to some of your comments because we

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01:00:59.460 Okay, let's get into some of these top comments from the last episode.

01:01:04.920 These ones always make me laugh.

01:01:06.240 This one says,

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01:01:11.060 Because I know, obviously, the Daily Wire's campus, whenever you guys say this,

01:01:14.660 I picture the employees all huddled up in the restroom watching my episode.

01:01:18.480 I hope that's how it's actually going down.

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01:01:33.800 Fantastic.

01:01:34.580 Yeah, look, maybe these guys will update their perspectives with more information.

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01:01:57.900 It was not a non-starter.

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01:02:23.560 are dedicating entire segments to calling us devilish, that's fantastic.

01:02:29.080 Like I want all of the right people hate me.

01:02:32.180 I just want to be very clear.

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01:02:37.480 Because I do not want to be on these people's sides.

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01:02:41.740 It's bringing the left and the right together.

01:02:43.180 My audience has never been more left and right at the same time.

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01:02:50.100 to keep us engaged in the Republican versus Democrat game, which serves nobody except the 0.62

01:02:55.640 elite pedophiles that are ruling over us.

01:02:58.560 Rachel writes, I am greatly enjoying this Bride of Charlie series.

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01:03:03.540 It was so much work.

01:03:04.560 Shout out to the team.

01:03:05.780 You guys have no idea.

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01:03:24.960 Me and Chris on a Saturday.

01:03:26.980 Yeah.

01:03:27.560 People say we're going to go out for the marketing company that did the trailer.

01:03:31.340 Yeah.

01:03:31.720 Okay.

01:03:33.620 It's ghetto over here.

01:03:35.000 Okay.

01:03:35.300 And we're having fun.

01:03:36.720 We are having fun.

01:03:39.200 Next person, I'm going to get to some more of your comments here.

01:03:41.500 Rachel writes, I support you and I hope you stay safe.

01:03:44.660 I watch you every single day and learn so much from you.

01:03:47.080 I love how you explain things and bring a different perspective in a world that feels fake.

01:03:50.020 You really do the work to show what's real.

01:03:52.040 Thank you so much.

01:03:52.700 I appreciate that.

01:03:53.520 And like I said, just like everywhere I go, I feel the love from the people.

01:03:57.080 And I know I'm never going to get a fair shake from the media, but I just do not care.

01:04:01.140 The Vipha writes, went to Hillsong in Oslo in my 20s.

01:04:04.780 I remember how creepy it was being groomed to believe that the big pastor did for his dad,

01:04:10.020 what the big pastor did for his dad and covering up the pedophile, pedophilery, I don't know if that's a word, was God's love and forgiveness.

01:04:19.900 Wow.

01:04:20.180 That is crazy that they tried to tell you that.

01:04:22.400 That's the day.

01:04:22.920 I mean, you feel it with these cavalry chapels too, too, as I went through and showed you how many of them were involved in pedophilia scandals.

01:04:28.920 And we watched Rob McCoy try to like whitewash somebody who actually went to prison.

01:04:33.920 It's just crazy.

01:04:35.100 Something's not right.

01:04:36.240 And we have to understand these are indeed psychological operations.

01:04:40.280 And they really peaked at the Charlie Kirk assassination and trying to shame us into wanting answers.

01:04:47.240 Joshua Steves writes, the comments on Graham's and Dan Bongino's Candice's demonic video only confirms that the world sees the truth and has your back.

01:04:55.800 Go, Max Candice.

01:04:56.540 The series was great.

01:04:57.640 Do you know what's really funny?

01:04:59.520 Just thinking about that in general, like just as a man, this is a serious question.

01:05:05.160 I'll leave it rhetorical.

01:05:05.680 Like as a man, if you see like 45 other dudes with the microphone all being theatrical, oh, this is crazy.

01:05:14.560 I'm coming for you, Candice. 0.98

01:05:15.940 I'm going to like harm you. 0.92

01:05:17.640 They were like there was violence. 0.76

01:05:19.200 They were saying what they were going to do violently.

01:05:20.980 What deserves to happen to her? 1.00

01:05:22.620 How do you how do you not like recognize that there is nothing manly about that?

01:05:28.740 It just never lands.

01:05:30.260 When men get all fired up and are shouting about a trailer that was dropped by a girl, like it's just what are you doing?

01:05:37.600 What do you just stop doing that?

01:05:39.620 Please stop doing that.

01:05:41.220 And to the other men, if 75,000 other men think they're brave for making videos, you don't need to be the 76th.

01:05:47.460 I promise you, none of you are brave.

01:05:49.420 None of you are changing the game.

01:05:50.820 OK, you're all being emotionally impacted by a trailer that hasn't even come out.

01:05:54.500 It's lame.

01:05:55.420 It's very lame.

01:05:56.960 This is why I like the East.

01:05:58.480 I keep telling you guys, this is why I like Russia.

01:05:59.620 I just feel like in Russia, when you go on YouTube, there's not a bunch of men crying.

01:06:05.260 I feel like they're not like, stop it, Candace.

01:06:08.840 Bad things happen when good men don't make videos on YouTube about a series that hasn't come out, a two minute trailer.

01:06:15.500 Like, just please stop.

01:06:17.380 I am begging you all to just stop.

01:06:20.200 They're probably not going to stop.

01:06:21.480 It's fine. 0.95

01:06:22.120 OK, keep being crybaby men.

01:06:25.100 Corey Henry writes, I have lived in Cincinnati for 60 years.

01:06:28.000 And I remember this so clearly.

01:06:30.620 The Erpenbeck scandal.

01:06:31.960 Go, Max, Candace.

01:06:33.240 Christ is king.

01:06:35.340 What do you guys think the real reason was Lori got out of there?

01:06:37.940 Oh, I forgot because she slipped and fell and bumped her head and became a technological genius. 1.00

01:06:45.640 Like I said, I can't wait till that happens to me because I'm really bad at tech and I need that.

01:06:49.680 I just need that in my life.

01:06:51.120 Lastly, the Nicole writes, I just miss Charlie as an audience member would, after the years of listening, not only seeing his content come up, just continues to remind me it won't ever be the same.

01:07:00.040 Thank you, Candace, for doing what others won't.

01:07:01.500 I'm praying for you.

01:07:02.180 Christ is king.

01:07:03.400 There will never be another Charlie.

01:07:05.420 And, you know, I still kind of go through the emotions.

01:07:08.060 And sometimes I'm like angry at him, even though he's not here.

01:07:10.040 Whereas I'm just like, man, like I when I see him again, I'm just going to be like, you should have listened to me.

01:07:15.480 I told you all of these people.

01:07:17.620 You know, I told you that just because it's in a ball gown at Mar-a-Lago doesn't mean it's not a gangster.

01:07:23.180 And so his naivety about some of the stuff frustrates me. 0.98

01:07:26.820 And I know it seems ridiculous.

01:07:28.420 He's not here.

01:07:28.840 How do you get frustrated about that?

01:07:29.780 But she's like, man, I just you always would have, could have, should have.

01:07:32.740 And I'm like, where would it be today if he had listened?

01:07:37.540 We won't know.

01:07:38.460 Anyway, guys, I hope you all have a absolutely beautiful, wonderful weekend.

01:07:43.540 Spend time with your family and know that we are at the gates and we are winning.

01:07:47.840 We'll see you next week.

01:07:56.820 We'll see you next week.

Candace Owens - February 28, 2026

Bride Of Charlie： Have No Fear, Lori Is Here. ｜ Episode 3

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