In this episode, I sit down with Tucker Carlson to discuss his recent win for Antisemite of the Year, why he thinks I should have won it, and why he's jealous that I didn't get it. We also discuss Ben Shapiro's recent appearance on Piers Morgan's show and how he almost got banned from the show.
00:05:00.900I have three different stories about Ben Shapiro to show how talented he is about changing the facts in real time.
00:05:08.580The first story happened very recently in Turning Point USA when a young kid came up, like a gentleman, he said, he started asking about the bombing of the USS Liberty.
00:05:19.840And the way that Ben Shapiro answered, he was just lying through his teeth very quickly.
00:05:28.000And he started to say, well, there has been investigation and it was obviously wrong and it was obvious and it was it was proved beyond any doubt that it was a mistake.
00:07:13.920And then he brought in a video with Hamas and the Palestinian authorities in Gaza, digging out water pipes and say, you see, these are the water pipes that are put in by the EU.
00:07:27.320And this is Hamas extracting them and making weapons from them.
00:07:31.420The beauty about this clip that this clip had an Arabic narration.
00:07:34.500It has Hamas officials talking over it.
00:07:37.160And they said that they discovered water pipes inside, like being dug from inside Israel to steal their water.
00:07:45.040So when they discovered it, they dug it out and they used it as weapons against Israel.
00:07:48.540So he took like a video knowing exactly what their narration is and he changed it.
00:07:56.080And actually, shout out to Wali Rashid.
00:07:58.420You actually brought like a video from him in your show before about the little moles, the little Israeli nodes in the moles, if you remember.
00:08:05.780Yeah, like little spy nodes in the U.S. moles.
00:08:15.480He knows exactly what he's saying, whether it was like if he's put on the spot or he's asked a question that he has to make up or he's making up a complete fake fact outside, out of thin air.
00:08:26.220Yeah. And it's, I mean, I don't really, I always start by saying I'm going to get in trouble, but I just, I don't really care.
00:08:32.560I think humanity just needs to be over all of this.
00:08:36.920Like the, the fear of telling the truth is something that is so scary to consider that so many human beings are allowing terrible things to happen because there's this like quiet fear that you'll be penalized for speaking the truth.
00:08:50.940And I just, that's what I gave up in 2025, 2026 cans.
00:08:54.760I'm not, I'm not keeping anybody secrets, but to your point about the USS Liberty, just to, to show you how far this goes in terms of protecting the secret.
00:09:01.400I hosted, Phil Turney sent me a letter and one of the survivors of the USS Liberty.
00:09:06.740When I tell you it was the most meaningful sit down I've ever had in my life.
00:09:12.980And I rarely, when I say that, like everyone looked like they were going to cry here when he went through and what he lived through.
00:10:07.400They sued me for allowing a survivor to tell his story.
00:10:11.560And they were making a psychic argument that I put him up to it.
00:10:15.080Like I could ever be so disgusting as to manipulate a man to say something so that I could, like, I mean, it was, and then I had to actually call Phil after this.
00:10:27.440And I know this is, I would never want to ask you, but, like, could you, would you be willing to testify that I didn't put you up to say something?
00:10:33.020But just to show you the extent, like, to, to manufacture reality that you're, you're willing to attack this guy twice.
00:11:27.260Like, Mike Pompeo went on this thing and he said, like, the way that we're going to remember October 7th is not going to be how we remember it today.
00:11:34.160It's very important that people remember this as Israel being the victim because there was no victims in Gaza.
00:11:39.680And they already have, I have a friend of mine who went to the Cannes Film Festival last year, that one year after October 7th.
00:11:49.420And they already have pledged over $200 million to produce TV shows, movies, in order to retell October 7th from the Israeli point of view.
00:11:59.960And they are changing history in front of us right now.
00:12:04.000And I think this is not just about what happened or what happens in Palestine.
00:12:10.340Because of how people saw the gaslighting happening in real time and how the lying is happening in real time, people now are reconsidering everything they were told about history.
00:12:21.640From World War II, to JFK, to 9-11, to the Iraq War, because we have seen an Olympic-level gaslighting.
00:12:31.680Because Israel doesn't just lie to hide the truth.
00:18:07.300We cannot pretend that that is normal.
00:18:08.840100% and I actually want to say something like on behalf of a lot of my Jewish friends because they suffer from this too.
00:18:14.300A lot of my Jewish friends who see that their identity and their religion is being hijacked by a group of people who are very selfish, who just like use this as a victimization tool.
00:18:26.360It is like exactly if Muslims saw people from ISIS and Qaeda suddenly hijacking our culture, hijacking our religion.
00:18:36.940But now they have money and power to actually make this the mainstream.
00:18:41.400And a lot of my Jewish friends feel that they're silenced, they're sidelined.
00:18:44.360We have seen a lot of like Jewish artists, directors and actresses and actors.
00:18:50.820They go on and they speak up and you see what happens.
00:18:53.060They're being called an anti-Semite the next day.
00:18:55.320One of my closest friends, Matt Lieb, he's a comedian.
00:19:41.840And I feel so bad that they have to, it just, they can't help it that not to take many of this on themselves.
00:19:51.300That all of these stuff that those Zionist people do kind of reflect on the whole community.
00:19:57.020But there are so many people who are just like sick and tired of being grouped with those psychopaths.
00:20:01.380Because they're not, that's what I'm saying, it's not a religion.
00:20:03.320It's a political philosophy and that's why it's so important to separate it.
00:20:07.360Like Zionists are just tried and true psychopaths.
00:20:10.520There's no way you could look at what's happened in Gaza to look out at what they did, how they told us they were going to do it, talking about real estate deals.
00:20:17.460I mean, you got to pull this up, Skylar, when you get a second, just some of the video footage of what Gaza looks like today.
00:20:22.860And then to look you in the face and feel nothing and say, no, that was necessary response to October 7th.
00:20:28.280And then when people, when they can't train people to be inhumane alongside them, the viciousness with which they attack people for being human, that's why I say I can't wrap my head around it.
00:20:39.700I actually wonder what happened to these people when they were kids.
00:20:43.320Because something inside of you has flipped.
00:20:45.280This is not like any person should have a humane response to seeing, here we go, some humane response to seeing what they've done.
00:20:52.860This, this is, and that's not even, that's like, that's before, that's, yeah, this, this is basically when they got started.
00:20:58.540I mean, they had raised this city and now there's nothing.
00:21:04.480The blackmail, the Epstein stuff, the defense of Epstein gaslighting us about Epstein and you go, okay, it's literally, I don't care if you are Jewish, if you are Muslim, if you are Christian.
00:21:18.860I mean, obviously I want you guys to all be Christian, but can we all unite to recognize that we have Satanists among us?
00:21:25.700Like this is, this is, this is a satanic philosophy that you have to be worshiping death to, to be okay with.
00:21:32.220I have a question for you as a Christian, like, because we just talked about a small group of people hijacking a whole faith, which is Judaism.
00:21:42.760And now similarly, you have all of these evangelical Zionists, people who go to Israel and come back and they just like brainwash their, their, their followers in the church.
00:21:56.040And, and it, it, when I, when I look at videos where inside the church, the only flag other than the American flag is the Israeli flag.
00:22:06.240And then there is a, there is a viral video clip from a documentary called Till Kindom Comes.
00:22:13.040And the pastors are talking to the little kids.
00:22:16.380They say like, Jews are better than us.
00:22:22.360I mean, what kind, what, you are a man of God.
00:22:26.200And now your mission is to tell your congregation that you are not special enough, that there's people from another religion that are more special than you.
00:22:37.080And we are, and it's like, basically, you're basically going and giving, giving away your life saving to the church only to have your kids listen to someone say like, hey guys, you're like, you're nothing.
00:22:54.340And I think for the first time, many people that are evangelical are waking up to that.
00:22:58.620And I, and it's incredible to say that is in large part due to the Charlie Kirk assassination and us looking into the story, looking into the pastors that he surrounded himself with.
00:23:08.840And then we kind of looked into what this Calvary Chapel church was.
00:23:45.340Understanding what they accomplished in the 60s.
00:23:47.360LOL to anybody who thinks that suddenly a bunch of people just wanted to smoke pot and, you know, leave their families and go play guitars out in the West.
00:23:55.080I mean, the 60s, that entire decade was all about military experimenting with social engineering and social engineering via things like the Manson murders, social engineering via establishing churches.
00:24:12.120The underlying goal of many of these churches, too many of these churches, is to commit people to Israel by any means necessary to believe that they will not be saved unless they worship Miriam Adelson and Bibi Netanyahu, which is wild.
00:24:27.920Miriam Adelson's money and wealth comes from debauchery.
00:25:14.300And it is our role to be next to them until God bring them back to the right path.
00:25:20.280And until that happens, it's okay to kill all of these people.
00:25:23.160It's okay to give all of your money to that entity.
00:25:26.660And if you don't bless Israel, you're going to be cursed.
00:25:29.140It is just like the mental gymnastics they use in order to bring their own people, their own Christian followers down in order to be loyal, not to God, not to Christ, but to a political entity.
00:25:53.780And he truly, and I know that you have an opinion about Charlie and the stuff that he was doing, but I can tell you that Charlie was genuine.
00:26:01.580In the same way that I always say to people, I obviously regret that I worked inside of Zionist organizations.
00:26:09.020I shouldn't say I regret that I worked there because I actually believe that God put me there for a reason because I had to see it from the inside.
00:26:14.100And I can give people now clarity on how these things work.
00:26:17.060But I regret that I was ignorant about what was happening in Gaza.
00:26:20.180And I think people should know that Charlie, me, we were genuine in our support for Israel because we genuinely believe we were being told the truth by our friends.
00:26:32.940I have a couple of issues with Charlie.
00:26:36.180I mean, you know, God rest his souls and I hope that justice will be served to all of the people who have actually killed him.
00:26:41.960But I do agree that he was kind of starting to wake up towards the end because he started asking the question, especially on the PBD podcast.
00:26:51.180He said, but he said something that I said in the first appearance with Piers Morgan.
00:26:54.780I said, like, Israel is the size of New Jersey.
00:26:56.980And why would it take you six hours for a response where you can go there, get there in a helicopter by 20 minutes?
00:27:02.800And that's like a very simple question.
00:27:04.380But if you ask that, that's your anti-Semite.
00:27:06.620But my, and he asked other questions about the stand-down orders.
00:27:11.100He started talking about like the aid.
00:27:13.120He was coming from an America first point of view, which I respect.
00:27:18.800But my issues with Charlie were a couple of things.
00:27:22.140First of all, I think you already saw the video when I said he kind of falsely claimed that if you're a Jew going to like an Arab neighborhood in Jerusalem, you're going to be stabbed.
00:27:32.020And now I understand that this is what was told to you.
00:27:38.640But the other two things that I, you know, again, he's now between the hands of his creator.
00:27:46.340But when he said close to his death, well, you know, Muslims, you are like, they throw gay people out of high buildings.
00:27:53.880Now there is no high buildings in Gaza anymore for like stupid Muslims.
00:27:57.660And that hurt a lot of Muslims seeing that clip.
00:28:00.400That was a very, yeah, it's a very, very, very terrible because it's like, yeah, like, you know, like you have no buildings now to throw gay people out from above it.
00:28:48.600So it's like when you go, like I was saying on this tour to Israel, it's so weird to revisit it because I just, I don't think I'm an idiot.
00:28:56.680But apparently I was just accepting everything that people that I thought were my friends and were Zionists were telling me because they're very good at playing the part.
00:29:03.960Like they are your friends and they want you to be good and they want you to like, you know, avoid the traps.
00:29:08.200Like they're guiding you and you're new to politics.
00:29:10.620And let me try to very quickly, as you understand what's happening.
00:29:13.100And here we are just trying to open an embassy.
00:29:15.200That's what me and Charlie were there for.
00:29:16.220Here we are just trying to open an embassy and like look at these terrible Muslims that are like throwing things at us and trying to murder people at the border.
00:29:23.160And you're going to be safe and we've got security for you to make sure of these terrible Muslims.
00:29:26.720So it's literally a psychological operation.
00:29:29.480And I want people to know that you have to separate the people that genuinely believe what they're saying versus people who are quite literally being given money and are defending psychopaths when it's very obvious.
00:29:42.400And I think October 7th, fast forwarding to where we are right now with all of the information that's now out there.
00:29:49.760Now that this argument, this debate has kind of arrived on the shores of America, meaning people are getting fired, excommunicated, being smeared, people that you know, you now you the the information is accessible.
00:30:17.380When Bibi wanted to take turning point to the next level, Charlie said no.
00:30:20.280OK, to Bibi Netanyahu, who is a gangster, you don't get to tell Bibi Netanyahu, no, we all know this.
00:30:28.160And so I I just want people I just want to know the truth, which is that you and I obviously I release text messages.
00:30:34.440They've left me no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause.
00:30:38.160Now, does that mean that he would have been like not eating up everything going on in Minnesota and still would have been working through things?
00:33:20.320I wish I would have had that kind of composure grieving the people that I love like that because she gives hope to every one of us that it doesn't really matter.
00:33:31.660And you know what's funny is they are using the same going back to the psychological operations where they're telling us to like suspend rationality.
00:33:40.980And this is because like God is with her.
00:33:43.260And like, I mean, even when she said to Jesse Waters that she didn't even need to take a sleeping pill, she didn't need to have a glass of wine, that she slept.
00:33:51.060She said she slept fine and accepted that this is what God wanted so instantly.
00:33:56.860And there's something about that that is chat GBT Christianity where it's like you're just going to keep saying God wanted this.
00:34:02.940It's like, no, being Christian is the we are flawed.
00:34:19.180What is bothering me even more than Erica Kirk is that, I mean, Erica is playing a part, but there is people who are supposed to serve the American people, like the director of the FBI, Mr. Kash Patel, who even before he got into office, he said, America needs to wake up and prioritize Israel,
00:35:36.960If you have a foreign country who's supposed to be your ally sending high security officers here and they are not just once, many times and they're involved in pedophile rings and they're allowed to leave.
00:35:49.240But that's okay because we need to talk about the Somalis in Minneapolis.
00:35:53.280We need to talk about the Arabs in Michigan.
00:35:55.420It just, and then you have like the acting DA who happens to be an Israeli national who let him go.
00:36:03.880And this is why, this is how they brand you to be a conspiracy theorist.
00:36:08.520When you start talking about stuff that's not circulating in the media, you become part of the fringe.
00:36:14.120If you're not into this, if it didn't happen in the mainstream media, that didn't happen.
00:36:19.560Anybody who repeats that, he's a psycho, he's a conspiracy theorist, he's a flat earther, whatever.
00:36:25.020But it is, and now this is what I found out about coming here to the United States.
00:36:29.340As someone who comes from the third world country where we are used to censorship and we are used to, you know, not telling the truth as it is.
00:36:39.960Here, nobody will hide the truth, but they will choose not to tell it and they will tell other stuff and give it a bigger mic.
00:36:46.980Like, so the, the, someone like Jay Klang or, uh, or, uh, Tommy Robinson, whatever they go and they, they, they start doing this agitation thing.
00:36:58.780They will find someone like Elon Musk with like tens of millions of followers tweeting it and that now becomes news.
00:37:05.220But they will never say anything about the other stuff.
00:37:08.260So everything that you are faced with in the news is that the stuff that they want you to see, they will not hide it.
00:37:30.300It's like decapitated babies, babies in orphans, pregnant women having their, it has become so much of an emotional shock that if you start questioning it, it's like, how come you question babies getting decapitated?
00:37:53.080And this goes back to what I was saying about the Bolsheviks.
00:37:55.180I mean, one episode I, we were speaking about even the things that they told us about World War II and the things, and they panicked.
00:38:03.080And it was hilarious because in a couple of months later, Auschwitz Museum comes out and says, the stuff that was said about Joseph, Dr. Joseph Bengali, a lot of it was made up.
00:38:12.980He was actually, before all of this, a respected doctor.
00:38:16.220Auschwitz Museum, put this on their website.
00:38:18.340And they changed the number from 4 million to 1 million overnight.
00:38:20.980I mean, there's been a lot of changes, but you're not allowed to know history or how the numbers change.
00:38:25.460And I was grateful to sit down with Norm Finkelstein, and I asked him about that question, you know, because he's like, my parents, one of his parents was in Auschwitz, and the other parent was, I'm blanking on which of the other camps they were in.
00:38:38.960He said, my parents told me some people were taking the tattoos off and some people were putting them on.
00:38:43.580You know, people that I believe were laundering their names, I spoke to him about this, making themselves victims, and they actually were the perpetrators of a lot of the crimes that were happening against Christians, mass murder of Christians, which we're not allowed to talk about.
00:38:55.160The number one victims of World War II were not Jews, it was Christians.
00:38:58.800And when you say that, they get so angry because they have worked so hard for decades to manipulate people in the classroom to believe that the only victims that have ever existed in history were Jews, and that's just on its face, false, and it is a lie.
00:39:10.560And we have to do a better job of getting out the truth.
00:39:14.320And by the way, I wouldn't even mind if that was the story.
00:40:28.980And I always make that point of going backward and looking at the actual guiding theology.
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00:42:50.160We've kind of spliced it together here, but this is Basim on Piers Morgan, the clip where he just uses humor.
00:42:56.060That's why we need the comedians because they're brilliant and they have a way of delivering a point in a way that is not controversial and it makes you go, what is wrong with us as a society?
00:43:05.280It's dark humor and they are the best at it.
00:45:11.520In three weeks, they killed more children from the Palestinian side, more than Israeli kids were killed all through 75 years.
00:45:18.600Do you know what I always say to people, and it's astonishingly that they can't think through this.
00:45:23.220If you think just because it's happening over there, like you're going to agree with these people, you're going to back these people up, you're going to maybe take a check, $7,000, maybe $100,000 to attack people that are standing up and saying this is wrong.
00:45:33.480But you can't be so dense as to think that they won't kill you, too.
00:45:51.440They're actually one of the ICE offices that when they did like locations, like kind of they find that the location of one of their field offices is in Tel Aviv.
00:47:01.240I'm telling you, I'm kind of getting used to this feeling of being in a country that can do whatever the hell it wants without no consequences.
00:48:01.600And and now but now I'm actually happy that that's happening to Denmark and then we're going to get Greenland because now I know it's not about brown people.
00:48:08.500It's I don't even know what we're doing anymore.
01:37:50.860I still disagree that they are desperate because if they're desperate, they're buying everything.
01:37:56.840I mean, they are desperate, but with a lot of money.
01:37:58.600If you have Larry Ellison, like taking away your TikTok, taking over your scene and an HBO and just like giving you all that, they're just, they're angry and they have all of that money.
01:38:08.320That's what makes them angry is they have all the money, they're buying it and they're still have no influence.
01:38:13.340The numbers are not ticking upward towards Israel.
01:38:25.440But if you have that much money to make the biggest country in the world, just like direct its weapon to whoever country they want, maybe they tell you that they're sad that you're not on their side, but maybe they don't care.
01:40:01.700And that's why I want them to know is it's, I know, because of how committed these people are to Satan, because they literally hired Satanists to run psychological operations in the military, as we covered.
01:40:38.340He started his own Church of Satan after he had a disagreement about...
01:40:41.680He was in the Church of Satan, and then he had a disagreement with the guy who started the Church of Satan because the guy was like, well, we're saying like Satan has an idea.
01:40:49.000And he was like, no, I mean like real Satan.
01:42:44.920Yeah, I was a heart surgeon for 20 years before all of this.
01:42:47.520So the day, the year that I finished my medical school, I had like a year off before I start like my, I have like a time off before I start my residency.
01:42:57.880And I, and I, and I saved enough money.
01:43:11.860And I came home and I, when I went back home, I was a cardiothoracic surgeon and I opened the first ever salsa school, salsa dancing school in Cairo.