Candace and Goyam discuss Erica Kirk's appointment to the Air Force Academy's Board of Visitors, Jeffrey Epstein, and why she should not be mixing politics with her grieving husband's death. Plus, a growing suspicion that Jeffrey Epstein and Erica have crossed paths.
00:00:00.000All right, you guys. In today's episode of Everybody Grieves Differently, and by the way, I should say we are in like Season 17, Episode 4.
00:00:10.300You know, the writers are running out of ideas and they're just putting up things that don't even make sense anymore.
00:00:15.980Yeah, well, on today's episode, President Trump has appointed Erica Kirk to the Air Force Academy's Board of Visitors.
00:00:22.600Now, if you would like to know how that further empowers this world-renowned widow who is definitely grieving, I will explain that to you.
00:00:31.920Is she qualified? Of course not. Not even a little bit. Doesn't even matter.
00:00:35.880Also, I got to speak to you about something much more seriously.
00:00:38.240I have a hunch, a growing hunch, that Erica and Jeffrey Epstein may have crossed paths.
00:00:48.260Something is not sitting right with me about how she just keeps dancing around Jeffrey Epstein in her life.
00:00:54.620I am finding it increasingly difficult to believe that Erica just keeps coincidentally getting involved with countries and companies and schools that Epstein is involved in deeply, involved with deeply.
00:01:07.100So I went ahead and messaged PR team, legal team over at Turning Point USA with a very specific question pertaining to a modeling company that I recently discovered that she had some involvement with.
00:01:21.14048 hours later, we have not yet heard back.
00:02:25.040And they are responsible, just so you understand what the job requires.
00:02:28.720They're responsible for making recommendations to the Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth, regarding changes to the Air Force Academy.
00:02:37.580They're also tasked with providing an annual report regarding the Military Institute's morale, its finances, its financial state, and its academics.
00:02:48.320Now, you might be wondering right now, how on earth is Erica Kirk, how did she really just graduate from an apparent stay-at-home mother to suddenly being qualified to submit financial, academic, and military morale reports to the Defense Secretary of the United States?
00:03:07.260And if you're wondering that, you should know that you are, you're everybody.
00:03:11.320We are all wondering this, but, I don't know, guys.
00:04:03.620Charlie was a literal boy genius, boy wonder, who had been militarily inclined since high school.
00:04:10.680Remember, his plan initially was to get into West Point, but then he established Turning Point, and it drove his life into a different direction.
00:04:18.080And sure, Charlie then built and ran that successful college campus student organization with chapters all across the nation.
00:04:23.780And sure, that organization earned him the ear of the president of the United States and every major political player in the country and world.
00:04:31.540And sure, that organization was taking $100 million in annually.
00:04:46.940Charlie, by the way, had himself earned that appointment, and there was backlash going, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is a very big deal.
00:04:54.740We shouldn't be mixing politics with this.
00:04:56.620He had earned that appointment in March of 2025, so just six months before he was assassinated.
00:05:03.060But we can all, therefore, reasonably assume that his beauty pageant wife, who makes T-shirts with biblical verses on them, is going to bring the same level of experience to this exclusive role because she's grieving.
00:05:19.520And the math on this is really simple.
00:05:21.340It makes perfect sense if you don't think about it at all.
00:07:04.080So, anyways, this discussion ends with a mild celebration regarding how, ultimately, that's going to give them the power to just create humans.
00:08:09.420They view us all to be human weeds that need to be exterminated.
00:08:12.780And to my conservatives, who, like me, truly believed that our military was out there spreading democracy all over the world because the West is the best and that this was going to, you know, these wars would in some way benefit us.
00:08:28.200I think now we can accept this was about just mowing the lawn, mass murdering people, also destroying history because they want, like, a forever present, a forever future almost, like we did in Iraq, like we did in Afghanistan, destroying ancient civilizations.
00:08:43.580With the added plus of stealing country resources that are going to help them further poison the general goyim population.
00:08:54.380Poppy seeds for opiates, followed by an opioid crisis in America, got everybody addicted, encouraging them to kill their offspring.
00:09:55.680But in particular, in this clip, he's going to discuss how coming into contact for masonry, essentially, and how people can raise the ranks through the occult families, how they get involved with these mystic cults in general.
00:10:29.880They'll watch them in college or they'll watch them and then they'll introduce them into this through various secret societies and things of that sort.
00:10:37.900They'll get them into engaging in the occult.
00:10:40.580There's a few of these people, not many of them, that are actually part of a pedigree or history that extends back to the late 1500s, 1600s, where the occult practices has been in their family lineage literally for three to four hundred years.
00:11:00.720And so, they're so proficient in the knowledge about how this stuff works and what is actually involved, they know that there's demons and God, et cetera, and they know that their activity in the occult is getting demons actually involved.
00:11:58.320It always involves occult rituals, which involve harming innocent children.
00:12:02.860And regarding Jeffrey Epstein in particular, I want to throw it back to this tweet that I published on Thursday, January 29th of this year.
00:12:12.580It's really interesting in retrospect because I truly did not know what it might amount to.
00:12:18.000So the backstory here is that I had received a couple of emails from people that follow and watch the show at the White House.
00:12:24.900And they said, hey, Candace, Andrew Colbert, Mikey McCoy and a couple of women look like Mikey McCoy's wife.
00:12:31.880And, you know, we just thought that's kind of odd because Andrew just presented as though he was live on the Charlie Kirk show doing a phone call with Kash Patel.
00:13:52.380People in the White House and all around the world think Andrew is shady and intentionally wanted the public to think that he was in Arizona for some reason.
00:13:57.920So they asked me to release this information.
00:14:00.960The next bit is unconfirmed, but they believe Andrew was accompanied by Mikey McCoy and his wife Elizabeth.
00:14:08.660And what struck me as immediately odd was that Andrew Colbert and allegedly Mikey McCoy and his wife were making an effort to fake alive on Charlie Kirk's show with none other than Mr. 33 Cash Patel.
00:15:07.880So I thought through that and I said, a fair assumption is that they did not want people to know that they were taking a meeting at the White House.
00:15:16.580And that's a very unusual desire for Turning Point USA, right?
00:15:19.180They normally love to promote the fact that they are involved with Trump, throwing flashy events at the White House, Mar-a-Lago, posing, all glammed up.
00:15:28.920So then I had to ask myself, well, what in particular was it about this meeting on this day in the West Wing that they wanted to fly under the radar?
00:15:37.660What could have been the subject that they wanted to fly under the radar?
00:15:56.500Is it possible that the meeting was related to the Epstein files, which are heavily redacted and obviously not complete?
00:16:02.800And I said to myself, well, you know, Erica was heavily involved in the pageantry world, really her whole life.
00:16:10.180Trump was also heavily involved in the pageantry world.
00:16:12.860More specifically, Donald Trump was actually the 50 percent owner of Miss America alongside NBC Universal when Erica was crowned.
00:16:22.660And Trump and Epstein's relationship, to be sure, seemed to be centered around pageantry and the modeling world and parties.
00:16:30.600There was even a lawsuit that was filed back in 1997 over a pageant company wherein one of the guys had said that during a meeting for his company that Jeffrey Epstein was there, which is kind of an honorable mention.
00:16:45.280So, OK, Trump has never denied that he hung out with Epstein.
00:16:52.440And I want to make sure you understand what Jeffrey Epstein did, how he was trafficking.
00:16:57.340It's important to remember that Jeffrey Epstein was specifically trafficking women from Eastern Europe through modeling agencies.
00:17:05.640OK, so it's a great cover, whether he was working with Victoria's Secret, you know, Les Wexner hands him the keys.
00:17:13.400And all of a sudden he's like a casting director looking at all of these models.
00:17:16.720John Luke Brunel in Paris, his agency, MC2 Modeling, John Luke Brunel kills himself.
00:17:24.440The media doesn't want to mention the fact that they also had offices in Tel Aviv, John Luke Brunel did.
00:17:30.760And that's how he was accomplishing it, because when you see a lot of women at a modeling agency, you don't go, oh, maybe these women are being trafficked from Europe.
00:17:38.400Maybe these women are, you know, not actually happy to be here.
00:17:43.720It's like the illusion when there's just a lot of models in any event, whether it's a pageant, anything else, is that this is normal because it's just the world of fashion or the world of beauty or the world of modeling.
00:17:57.960OK, so Victoria's Secret, he's been casting for.
00:18:00.240And also when you go through his emails, it seems like he's also handpicking girls for certain pageants.
00:18:05.840And I've read through some of them, like he had clearly a very strong relationship with the Miss North Carolina one year.
00:18:13.860I thought, OK, maybe still another coincidence, right?
00:18:16.540Erica's in pageant world, Trump's in pageant world, Epstein's in pageant world-ish.
00:18:21.320Then we took a week off to investigate Erica, and I was even more stunned by some more coincidences, and I'm going to run you through them here.
00:18:30.400OK, so in 2010, we know Jeffrey Epstein, based on the emails, begins procuring models from Romania.
00:18:35.140We also know that that's the same time and year at the Black Sea Rotational Force in Constanta, Romania, is being led by Erica's cousin, Lieutenant Colonel Denis Fransvay.
00:18:46.900It's the first time America is operating a base in Romania, which is later going to be accused of prostituting underage Romanian children.
00:18:57.160Same time frame, Tyler Boyer goes out to Constanta, Romania, and he's hanging out and he's partying and he's drinking with Romanian models and parliament politicians.
00:19:03.620Then Tyler is going to return from Romania around September of 2010.
00:19:09.420Makes sense because he was attending Arizona State University, so school's got to get going.
00:19:14.300And then that same year, Jeffrey Epstein begins giving money to Arizona State University specifically for their origins project.
00:19:22.100OK, four months after that, Erica, and this is now into 2011, I'm sorry,
00:19:30.860in May of 2011, Tyler Boyer is going to get unusually elected to the Board of Regents.
00:19:36.560And I say unusually because the governor, he kind of didn't go through the normal process.
00:19:41.160And the governor just decides Tyler Boyer is the guy.
00:19:43.820And then four months beyond that, Erica is going to enroll into ASU for her final year of college from 2011 to 2012.
00:19:52.440And immediately two months after that, after the semester begins, she wins Miss Arizona USA, right, in November.
00:20:00.400And right after winning, we know she is going to establish this working partnership with the U.S. Marines Black Sea Rotational Force in Constanta,
00:20:08.280teaming up with them to run the Romanian Angels Project through her 501c3 Everyday Heroes.
00:22:12.060So I'll tell you how I got this information.
00:22:14.320I had received a tip a while ago saying, hey, you know, their next model management in New York City, Faith Cates, who was the co-founder of it, had to step down because of her involvement with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:22:28.700I mean, she's like in his emails like 4,000 times, even after he got arrested for pedophilia.
00:23:34.420Well, I was able to confirm it not just once, not twice, three times, four times with people with direct knowledge that Erica Kirk was a multiple times taking office, taking meetings at next model management and dealing with the people like the suits that would surround Faith Cates, people like Jeffrey Epstein.
00:23:56.780Now, they did not say they saw her meeting with Jeffrey Epstein, but they said essentially Jeffrey Epstein was always there because he was so close with Faith.
00:24:07.900And so he would sometimes come in and he would take a meeting.
00:24:10.880And so he would just kind of, when you're friends with someone, I'm going to take an office.
00:24:14.780And nobody knew what the context of these meetings were.
00:24:17.400They are saying that in meetings like that, meaning Erica was not there because of a modeling contract or because they don't know why she was there.
00:24:27.600They don't know why Erica was in that same category of suits, right, of just like suits.
00:24:35.740And Erica is there and she's taking meetings at next model management.
00:24:39.740So now feeling 100% certain that this information was real, like I said, confirming it four ways, I decided to go out and ask Erica what she was doing there.
00:24:50.260Because if people with intimate knowledge situation don't know what she was doing there, that's not great, right?
00:25:28.360What is the context of your relationship with next model management?
00:25:30.600We've now confirmed that you were taking meetings here.
00:25:32.680What was the nature of those meetings?
00:25:34.020And I mentioned, you know, like, you know, she's obviously had a falling out with regarding she had to step down because of the Epstein emails.
00:26:55.600So Erica, being the busiest person in the world in 2018, receiving degrees, starting and running a business, a clothing company, also taking interviews with Turning Point because she's going to help them, but then falling in love with Charlie.
00:27:11.380She also unusually receives her New York real estate license to work with Corcoran real estate.
00:27:16.600And that is under the stewardship of Pam Lehman, featured in the Epstein files, was helping him with real estate deals.
00:27:23.200But also, we can't find any real estate deals that Erica completed in New York.
00:27:28.580And real estate agents are reaching out to me saying, you can't just get a license and work for Corcoran.
00:27:33.300That's not how the real estate world works.
00:27:36.140I guess they have certain requirements.
00:29:27.460Well, that's almost redundant at this point, the fact that something is not right with Erica.
00:29:32.580But I would like an answer as to what specifically Erica was doing, sitting down in offices with suits at the next model management company.
00:29:43.800I think that's a very simple question to ask.
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00:32:35.860We can't show you where on the resume where she's qualified or how you go from, like, modeling agencies and dating reality shows and pageantry to where she is now, the Department of Defense.
00:32:49.600It's giving Jeffrey Epstein when he just, like, becomes a math teacher and someone's pulling him from the ranks and that someone is Bill Barr, right, who gives him that job because he's running that school.
00:32:59.380Something's just really weird about everything.
00:33:02.220And I also wanted to tell you, this is kind of happening on X right now, Turning Point tried to remove it from the podcast.
00:33:10.440They did actually remove it from the podcast, but not before the internet grabbed it.
00:33:15.600He's one of my favorite characters because he always just says too much and it's never good.
00:33:20.320And Blake Neff is explained on Charlie Kirk's show earlier today that Erica says that Charlie, if he had a chance, if he had a choice, he would stay dead.
00:33:40.300It's, you know, it's, Erica said that if Charlie was given the choice to undo what happened and come back, he wouldn't, she thought, because of what was unleashed by it.
00:33:54.200They've since, we tried to get, like, the full clip, but they've since removed that and Blake is like, that's just because of the faith revolution and, like, he's just, he would be so happy to see that people are being driven towards churches that he would pick, if he was in heaven and given them, he would just say, I'm just going to stay here and I'm going to let my kids grow up without a father and really without a mother.
00:34:14.540Because everything seems to be going according to some more divine plan and Erica has taken my spot everywhere.
00:34:25.100Let's actually talk about September 8th because I now feel like now that we've learned more about Erica, the Fort Huachuca story, I'm leaning towards Mitch.
00:34:35.020Allegedly, Erica, he saw her on September 8th, Fort Huachuca, it caused mass panic.
00:34:40.200They spent tons of money getting people to attack me.
00:34:43.140And that now, with everything we know about the way Erica moves, didn't really know in the beginning how to feel, but I'd like to add, I guess, just some more data points to September 8th.
00:34:54.080Now, remember, Erica's claim before they sent me a cease and desist was that she was making dinner for Charlie that night, but no one else has been able to independently confirm that.
00:35:06.540Frank Turek does make the claim that Charlie had dinner with his family, but he doesn't mention Erica, he doesn't say his wife.
00:35:15.140And I find that to be interesting because I think Frank Turek is actually a smarter person involved in this.
00:35:21.260He hasn't made the same mistakes as everybody else.
00:36:41.320And it was, like, kind of always this feature on his show of him being upset with, uh, the chronic upsets that comes, apparently, with being a Chicago Bears fan.
00:36:50.960And he recounted with remarkable detail, at least, and this is, again, I'm, I'm, I'm happy to yield and err on my side of caution.
00:36:59.400But I think we can confidently state that Charlie definitively watched the second half of that game glued to his screen.
00:37:06.900Take a listen to Charlie discussing the Bears game on September 8th.
00:50:11.800And I would say, especially after Charlie Kirk's assassination, how this really works.
00:50:15.700And, yeah, I've been honest about everything.
00:50:18.460I was number one person wearing a MAGA hat thinking that Trump was going to bring forth change, you know, and I took I caught a lot of bullets.
00:50:27.400And I think that that's kind of been the biggest disappointment is that he didn't, at the end of the day, we just got it wrong with him.
00:50:33.360Or I don't know if it's just this time around, if this is who he is after the assassination.
00:56:15.560Blake Neff responded and said they did not cut out the portion of him discussing Erica and her insinuation that Charlie would want to still be dead if he had the option because of the faith movement.
00:56:31.160And so he says that we fact check that and the full Charlie Kirk podcast episode still has Blake Neff's comments, but it is cut out on the Twitter stream, which is where we initially saw it.
00:56:43.580So they cut out of the Twitter stream.
00:56:45.020It is still available on the Rumble site just to make sure that we are always being accurate.
00:56:50.940We don't ever need to be inaccurate or make things up because they give us plenty of content every day.
00:56:56.800Anyway, with their absurdity, I do love when Blake Neff does decide to respond, by the way.